[12:59] Good evening scott-work ailo-w len-dt [13:00] * smartboyhw finds the completion rate for Ubuntu Studio blueprints is 91% quite good [13:01] heh, i'm probably all of the remaining 9% that wasn't done then :P [13:02] scott-work, I think that is mine for the testcase rewrites still INPROGRESS [13:04] I seem to suffer from the symptom when you feel like you've done quite a lot, but nothing shows [13:05] Been really busy this whole cycle [13:05] ailo-w, LOL [13:05] I was coding a program, my own project. Thought it would take me a couple of days. Took me more like 20 [13:06] Leaves little time for anything else [13:06] Ooh [13:07] I'm kind of stuck in a vice. I really have to do my own stuff. Then there [13:07] Then there's school [13:07] Right now, it's PHP [13:08] ailo-w, don't worry:P [13:08] Will be network stuff later, probably [13:08] If one had many lives.. [13:08] * smartboyhw is staggered of yesterday's logs, staggering 51KB [13:09] ubuntustudio-controls I will do, as well as finish what I can on documentation. It's just that progress is so ridicilously slow [13:09] ailo-w, er.... [13:09] * smartboyhw goes and looks more carefully:P [13:10] scott-work, the 9% remaining as I discovered is actually 62.5% from ailo-w, 25% from me and 12.5% from len-dt :P [13:12] To all: Good thing:P [13:12] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2065486 [13:12] Nice letter [13:14] scott-work: Buy Ubuntu Studio? [13:15] His experiences seemed very subjective. Doesn't really reflect how things have been, I think. [13:15] ailo-w, I want him to donate or contribute instead of buying, we;re F/OSS:P [13:15] IMO, linux-lowlatency and realtime privilege put Ubuntu Studio back to a out of the box audio workstation [13:16] I guess information is easier to get now, more than ever [13:16] Which is a step forward too [13:16] ailo-w, :) [13:19] Hey saw this in Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter [13:19] http://maketecheasier.com/ubuntu-studio-a-distro-for-recording/2012/09/26 [13:21] smartboyhw: Nice one [13:21] ailo-w, :) [13:21] It's not that bad right now, I guess. === smartboyhw is now known as nohaggis [13:21] LOL [13:22] But, there's still lots to do [13:22] * nohaggis thinks the R cycle will be a lot more challenging [13:22] nohaggis: What u got against haggis? [13:23] ailo-w, a joke in #ubuntuforums:P === nohaggis is now known as smartboyhw [13:27] Never tried Haggis, but I did eat dog in Canton [13:27] But, I'm a vegeterian now.. [13:27] ailo-w, er I don't eat dogs:P [13:27] ailo-w, oh [13:28] * smartboyhw has a classmate who does not eat vegetables:P [13:28] smartboyhw: Well, you're from HK. Not like your mainland neighbors [13:29] I spent some time in Jiang Men. And passed through some other cities, like Shen Zhen, Guang Dong? [13:29] ailo-w, yeah. We do HATE (morally and behaviourly) and LOVE (economically) them [13:30] In Jiang Men, many had never seen a Westerner, it seemed like [13:31] I miss China sometimes. Especially the food, even though I don't eat meat anymore [13:31] Ooh [13:34] ailo-w, btw as you said about your pet project before how is it going? [13:34] smartboyhw: Hopefully I will finish enough of it for it to be usable this year. Something I though I would accomplish this summer. [13:35] ailo-w, good:) [13:35] Once I have a functional version, I will start thinking about porting it to C/C++, and get more people involved [13:35] I need more time to think about the structure for the whole thing [13:35] ailo-w, good:) [13:46] ailo_, holstein, scott-work Really do we need an impromptu (or scheduled) meeting to just talk about adding LMMS?:P [13:48] smartboyhw: im not going to want to include it [13:48] scott-work doesnt care about it [13:48] holstein, but ailo_ cares:P [13:48] i say that rather than "i dont care about including LMMS" [13:48] smartboyhw: sure, and as i said, ailo_ can/should [13:48] stochastic, your comment? [13:49] i wont "vote it down" [13:49] OK [13:49] smartboyhw: if you want to take it on, and push it in, i wont complain [13:49] if its a sentence that is structured like a question in any way, i think LMMS is a toy [13:50] holstein, well this is a community decision so I can't decide [13:50] someone will need to take it on though [13:50] holstein, I already proposed code merge for that:P [13:52] smartboyhw: LMMS? cool [13:52] holstein, yes:P [13:52] i mean, i still think its a toy.. but if folks use it, and its stable now, great! [13:52] holstein, well someone asked for that in #ubuntustudio yesterday to ask why we didn't:P [13:53] sure, but i could ask about a lot of things too [13:53] we cant include everything [13:53] holstein, we know [13:54] plenty of time though.. as long as its stable.. is it? [13:55] holstein, last build is 9 months ago [13:55] for itP [13:55] sure. there was a new build when it was crashing for me in 10.04 [13:55] and 9.10... [13:56] i think someone should actually pull it up and run it with JACK... just to be sure [13:56] i can do that, if need be [13:56] holstein, OK do it:P [13:56] i would want that to be a deciding factor... a human actually running the software in JACK on a 12.10 system... [13:57] smartboyhw: i'll try and get a daily downloaded this week... [13:57] holstein, thx [14:06] smartboyhw: Please keep in mind (re: LMMS inclusion) that at this stage we're under the Feature Freeze, so you'll need to file a FFe to get it included. Also, docs have to be changed accordingly. [14:06] astraljava, oh no.............. [14:07] * smartboyhw forgotten about FF [14:07] That gives it to R then:P [14:07] And being that Beta-2 was already published, I wouldn't accept such an exception anymore, if I were in release team. [14:07] Though, I suppose flavors can have their way a little bit easier. [14:07] * smartboyhw goes to beat himself [14:08] But yeah, it'd be much safer to leave it for R cycle. [14:08] Thanks for the reminder astraljava [14:08] No need to beat yourself. [14:08] LOL [14:08] The merge request can still be there, it can be merged whenever. [14:08] astraljava, OK [14:09] So yeah, everything's cool, just make it happen during the next cycle, is my recommendation. :) [14:09] * astraljava wanders off again... [14:09] astraljava, thx:P [14:09] * smartboyhw finds out that Xubuntu QA leads like to wander off:P [14:16] hi all [14:16] hi stochastic [14:17] stochastic, are you the guy who just sent the LMMS email? [14:17] * stochastic is Eric [14:17] ah OK [14:17] :) [14:18] * smartboyhw is thinking to add it into ubuntustudio-default-settings instead for R. [14:18] So people can choose whether to install it or not. [14:19] There are literally hundreds (no exaggeration) of similar cases where people would probably find an app useful... [14:20] it's tough to pare everything down to a selection of core apps but we do need to be ruthless and justify why everything is included [14:20] OK [14:20] in the past things were getting out of control with the music apps in particular [14:21] why is rosegarden not included? [14:21] stochastic, er.... [14:21] why is gungirl sequencer not included? [14:21] etc... [14:23] why is frescobaldi not included? [14:23] stochastic, OK I get the point:P [14:24] lol [14:24] LOL [14:24] that being said, a constant app review process is a healthy thing to be doing. We need to keep our application selections current. [14:25] stochastic, ok [14:26] anyways I'm off to class to write an Econ exam [14:26] stochastic, bye bye [15:01] that guy from the forum post made a comment on my blog saying the same thing yesterday. i would like to respond to him soon. [15:02] scott-work, oh! [15:02] scott-work, what's your blog link again? [15:03] http://dullass.blogspot.com/ [15:03] scott-work, er where IS the comment:P [15:04] under the latest post [15:05] scott-work, btw I found your wiki page in wiki.ubuntu.com a bit too long:P You don't have to list EVERYTHING:P [15:05] scott-work, ah the comment .... [15:05] smartboyhw: i was told to list everything i did to help with my ubuntu application [15:06] scott-work, er.......:P [15:06] * smartboyhw is going to apply soon but then he isn't gonna list like that;P [15:36] ailo_, saw some items in the documentation blueprint is still TODO for you, can you change it either to DONE or POSTPONED?