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asarchThere is a bug in the installer for i38600:32
asarchIt doesn't install GRUB00:33
asarchHow do you do manually?00:33
well_laid_lawn!grub00:38
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:38
asarchThank you!00:38
asarch:-)00:38
well_laid_lawnluck00:39
asarchThank you00:43
asarchLet's see...00:43
beyondcrhello01:29
jawnah;)01:32
asarchWhat package is Grub-Repair?01:43
asarchgrub-install /dev/sda01:43
asarch/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)01:43
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jawnahare you chroot?01:54
asarchNevermind01:58
asarchSee you later01:58
jawnahwell alrighty then.01:58
MrBushidois it possible to limit a pointer to a single screen? i have a wacom graphics tablet and dual monitors, and by default its making the surface of my tablet stretch across both screens making strokes on the horizontal axis difficult to control02:11
jawnahI'm not familiar with doing that...02:18
lJ6ilHello. I have to choose gdm instead of lightdm. I don't know how to set that i don't want gdm to ask me a login screen. Where should i modify something ?02:35
tetepardon me, when i come from hibernation, the network manager applet stops working, anyone know how to restart it or fixit?03:07
chris92tete: in a terminal, type "sudo service network-manager restart"03:15
tetegreat chris92, thanks, noted, will try it in the next wake up! (too much programs open now)03:16
chris92tete: you're welcome03:17
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^GeCk0^gooood morning :) im looking for an audio recording tool, that records my pulse-audio-server to fetch the stream of any running application03:32
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Pachatest05:12
PachaI have a question about, "xubuntu-10.04-alternate-powerpc.iso"05:15
Pachaanyone familiar with the download?05:15
Unit193What's the question?05:16
PachaHeya05:17
Pachawell, I downloaded the image, but it appears to big to burn to a standard 700mb CD05:17
Pachait is 725MB05:18
Unit193Where did you get it?05:19
Unit193http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/10.04/release/  they are all "oversized"05:20
Pachai got it from:05:21
Pachahttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/lucid/release/05:21
Pachaprobably the same thing05:22
Unit193It is.05:22
Pachaany suggestions?05:22
Unit193PPC isn't supported on Xubuntu anymore, so if you have to use a powerpc, either try Lubuntu or Debian.05:23
Pachaok, i was trying to find something that i could slap on this old ibook and bring it back to life!05:25
PachaI'll check out those distros.  thanks for the help Unit193.05:25
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PetrosHi, I am running xubuntu 12.04 on dell xps1330M, with encrypted LVM. Due to keyboard failure I had to hook up a USB keyboard. Now, the problem is when I have to enter first passphrase - I have to do it via internal keyboard, which is spitting random characters as I type. It only happens on the graphic screen. If I get to GRUB text menu, and then have to enter the passphrase in text mode, it's ok.06:37
PetrosThus, the question is, how can I disable graphic passhrase screen and force GRUB text menu instead?06:38
koegstoo late :D06:47
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SDX0I cannot connect to my wireless network if I have my Linksys/Cisco WRE54G range extender up.  I've tried specifying the BSSID of both the router and the extender in the network connections manager, but neither one produced a usable connection.  Does anyone have any ideas?07:13
SDX0The connection works fine if the extender isn't on and my other Windows machines can connect just fine with the extender on or off.07:15
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sremie89Where do I change the color of selected items? Can seem to find it.09:46
baizonanybody know where i can find the bug for xubuntu not booting ?09:49
testpil0t"the bug" for not booting ? :)09:49
baizonyeah09:49
baizonsince the last update of 3.2.0 my xubuntu and ubuntu isnt booting09:50
baizoni have to reset, then it boots09:50
baizongot it10:04
baizonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/105774510:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 864430 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1057745 plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_trigger_add_handler()" [Medium,Confirmed]10:05
andrey_hello all!12:47
holsteinandrey_: i know you!12:48
andrey_emm... why?!12:48
andrey_do you know me? yes? O_o12:49
holsteinandrey_: maybe i dont then.. i know an andrey on another network and assumed... sorry..12:49
andrey_okay. i'm Russia. But you?12:50
andrey_Who can help me?12:51
holstein!ask12:51
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:51
andrey_I need support of Xubuntu OS... Who have few minutes for me?12:55
holsteinandrey_: typically, you "just ask".. go for it.. we are volunteers here, and just chime in as time/knowlege permits12:55
andrey_okay. thanks12:56
guest7777Hello! I haven't used 64 bit in a while. Does the current version (12.04.1) support all multimedia extras with the installation of xubuntu-restricted-extras. Does flash and java work ?13:13
recon_lapguest7777: yep, I'd go as far as to say that 64bit is the standard.13:15
toraxI have not had any problems with 64bit13:15
guest7777Thank you  :)13:16
recon_lap32 bit is legacy stuff now13:16
GridCubenot really13:18
recon_lapGridCube: cant see anyone making something that only works on 32bit today13:20
GridCubewont see why, executing 32bit on 64bit is easy13:20
recon_lapGridCube: true, what i'm trying to say is that most computers and OS's are 64bit now, so creating a 32bit program that won't run on a 64bit OS would be hard to not notice.13:27
GridCubetrue that13:27
GridCuberecon_lap, :) lets take this to OT please13:28
chris92hey, is there a possibility to set hotkeys to open a terminal?14:13
TheSheepsure14:13
TheSheepin settings -> keyboard14:13
TheSheepthe command is xfce4-terminal14:13
chris92thanks TheSheep  =)14:13
GridCubemeta-t?14:15
GridCubeit should work14:15
GridCubechris92, try meta-t14:16
chris92whats "meta-t"?14:16
GridCubethe "windows key" on the keyboard14:16
GridCubeand the letter t14:16
chris92ahh alright, works as well =)14:17
chris92thanks14:17
GridCubethere are a few already keybinded14:17
GridCubechris92, check them at: http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/14:22
chris92GridCube: okay =) will check that out14:22
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rayvGoodevening all18:43
rayvAnybody here?18:46
Unit193!hi18:47
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!18:47
yodaWhats the best way to download flash video?18:54
GridCubedownload helper18:54
yodaSweet. Looking it up.18:55
Unit193Firefox plugin.18:56
yodaI prefer Opera but will run Ff. for just that.18:58
rayvWill upgrading to 12.10 beta be worth a try or should i wait for the offcicial release?19:00
recon_laprayv: I'd say if you have to ask, you better off waiting19:01
rayvrecon_lap, oke thanks19:02
rayvwhen will 12.10 be released?19:02
baizonrayv: 18 october19:02
baizonim using beta 2 for a week now19:03
rayvWow! That's my bday :-)19:03
baizongot some bugs :)19:03
rayvwhat kernel will 12.10 be running?19:04
baizon3.5.319:05
rayvbaizon, thank you19:05
baizonnp19:05
rayvbaizon, did you upgrade or a fresh install?19:05
baizonboth19:06
rayvbaizon, did the upgrade went oke?19:06
baizonyep19:06
rayvbaizon, were there differences between the 2 methods?19:06
baizonwell none i think :)19:06
rayvbaizon, great19:07
rayvbaizon, will wait for the normal upgrade then19:07
GridCubebaizon, report the bugs, report them bad19:07
baizonGridCube: already done19:07
gmagnohey, I'm willing to install xubuntu in a PentiumIII 996MHz, 496MB RAM. Should I stick with an older version, or xubuntu 12.04 is fine?19:08
gmagnowhich are the prerequisites?19:08
baizonhttp://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/19:08
baizonit will be ok19:08
recon_lapgmagno: make a live flashdrive and test drive19:09
gmagnorecon_lap, yuo, gonna do that19:10
baizonxubuntu 12.04 should be fine, if not Lubuntu will be :)19:10
gmagnoyup*19:10
w30I donno about cpu power but for low hard drive sizes Lubuntu has a smaller install size.19:11
gmagnow30, that does not worry me much in fact. What concerns me is CPU and memory19:12
w30gmagno, Lubuntu gives you the best choices for low memory usage apps but if you remove abiword and stick in Libreoffice for example you kinda defeat the purpose of a Lubuntu install19:15
gmagnow30, yup, I'll stick to xfce for sure19:16
w30gmagno, Lubuntu is a spped deamon on my Hp Atom ssd netbook compared to XP which was unusable19:17
gmagnow30, XP? What are you talking about? Have no idea what that is :)19:18
w30gmagno, I didn't even have room for word19:18
w30gmagno, it came With Windows XP19:19
gmagnow30, it's a pitty gnome3 and unity suck so much... They are the main reason I know XFCE19:19
w30gmagno, It took 3.6 gig for XP alone with no apps19:20
gmagnow30, yeah without all those service packs and who knows what else19:21
w30gmagno, why does Unity and Gnome 3 try to force a touch screen interface on to a mouse and keyboard user?19:24
gmagnow30, do they really think the future leaves mouses and keyboards behind?19:25
recon_lapI'd say that we have a new class of computer users, the smartphone dumb-asses :)19:28
GridCubei'd say none of this is support and should go to #xubuntu-offtopic19:29
gmagnoerm... any recommendation on the best way to load a flashdisk with the operating system?19:35
gmagnoI  mean, so that I can boot from it19:36
GridCube!unetbootin19:36
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:36
GridCubealso google unetbootin19:36
gmagnoty19:37
GridCubeif you mean to "install to it" then you boot a normal live session and choose the live media as target19:37
gmagnoweird... my laptop is ignoring  BIOS configurations and is booting from hdd... any idea? I've also disabled all other boot options, leaving usb boot only, but no success20:01
recon_lapgmagno: did you create the USB correctly?20:02
gmagnorecon_lap, erm... yeah, I've used unetbootin20:03
recon_lapgmagno: and when you look at the files on the USB , do you see what look like a Linux root directory ?20:04
gmagnorecon_lap, erm... lemme check again20:04
gmagnorecon_lap, I can find directories like: boot, casper, dists, install, isolinux, pics, pool, preseed. And a bunch of files, md5sum.txt, README.diskdefines, syslinux.cfg, ubnfilel.txt, ubnpathl.txt, ldlinux.sys, menu.c32, ubninit, ubnkern20:07
Sysitry formatting the drive and do it again20:07
recon_lapgmagno: that looks about right, have you ever booted that machine with a usb before?20:10
gmagnoSysi, I'll do that, but let me share this first. I just tried to reboot my laptop without the usbdisk plugged in, and I got an error message saying it couldn't start and asked to insert cd or something to boot (which is fine since boot options are telling it to ignore hdd, cd, and everything besides USB). The funny part is when restart with usb plugged in and it boots to the operating system...20:11
gmagnorecon_lap, never, first time20:11
gmagnoI just got this old computer from a friend, I wanted to use it a server20:11
gmagnobut BIOS have the option to boot from usb disk20:12
Sysiwas stick formatted as fat32 or ntfs?20:12
recon_lapgmagno: well, that sound right. you got a live USB, think you just missed the boot menu20:12
SysiI'ce seen couple machines that only boot from usb for bios upgrade20:13
recon_lapgmagno: boot again and watch it :)20:13
gmagnoSysi, fat3220:13
gmagnorecon_lap, lemme check20:13
gmagnorecon_lap, I'm gonna restart again, I wasn't able to see anything this time... PAUSE should pause boot process, right?20:15
recon_lapgmagno: what OS does it boot into , you never said?20:15
gmagnoXP20:15
gmagno@recon_lap20:16
recon_lapgmagno: can you make a CD instead?20:16
gmagnorecon_lap, no CD drive :/20:17
gmagnonor diskette20:17
recon_lapok, Can't say as I know what would cause the USB to boot the harddrive ?20:17
recon_lapgmagno: try pressing shift as it boots, might bring up the grub menu20:18
gmagnorecon_lap, I restarted again, step by step with PAUSE key and there is nothing telling me about boot by usb20:18
gmagnorecon_lap, gonna try that20:18
gmagnorecon_lap, it ignored my hold shift input :-/ Btw, this is an ASUS B100020:21
recon_lapgmagno: and it will not boot without the USB? strange !20:21
gmagnorecon_lap, I'm gonna do this live, one sec20:22
gmagnorecon_lap,  http://bambuser.com/v/303031220:24
gmagnorecon_lap,  are you watching?20:24
recon_lapyep :)20:25
gmagnorecon_lap,  ok done20:28
gmagnorecon_lap, any suggestion20:28
recon_lapyep, that booted off the HDD, not so sure about the BIOS, says USB Floppy20:28
gmagnochecking again20:29
recon_lapgmagno: I mean I think your BIOS will not boot from USB20:29
gmagnohmm ok20:30
gmagnogonna turn off streaming20:30
recon_lapNormally it just says USB, USB Floppy is something I'v never seen before20:30
delkinboas20:31
gmagnorecon_lap, hmm i see20:32
recon_lapgmagno:  Look like the BIOS tries to make the USB into a Floppy disk drive to boot XP updates20:32
amourphiouscan any one tell me where to find source code for ubuntu keyboard module ?20:33
gmagnorecon_lap, didn't knwo that could happen20:33
gmagnogonna try to boot my other laptop with this usb disk20:33
amourphiousis this right place for Questions about ubuntu devel20:34
amourphious?20:34
gmagnorecon_lap, brb, I'm rebooting my own laptop20:35
recon_lapamourphious: well the devs will be in #xubuntu+1 , but probably a bad time to be buggin them , release due in about 2 weeks20:37
recon_lapamourphious: but the source code for all packages should be in the source code repository , you can enable it in synaptic and install the code on your system like any other package20:39
amourphiousrecon_lap: well actually i needed to see the source code for some purpose anyways thx :)!20:46
recon_lapamourphious: well if you install the scr package you can look at it? I assumed you had a purpose :)20:47
gmagnorecon_lap, back20:49
gmagnousb disk is fine20:49
gmagnoI think its computer problem20:49
gmagnoI'll read about ethernet boot, it might be possible20:50
recon_lapgmagno: yep, you laptop does not do USB boot, just a Half assed USB Floppy :(20:50
gmagno:-/20:50
recon_lapgmagno: external USB drive is the other option20:51
recon_lapgmagno: or create a floppy Linux boot on a usb stick20:51
amourphiousrecon_lap: well currently I'm using Kubuntu which I suppose does not have Synaptic so can u tell me repo which i need to or can clone !20:51
recon_lapamourphious: this is the xubuntu channel, no one in Kubuntu channel?20:52
gmagnorecon_lap, I'm not sure I understand your suggestions20:53
recon_lapgmagno: sorry, I meant to type external USB CD drive, if you know anyone with one20:54
gmagnorecon_lap, erm... that would still communicate through usb. Wouldn't still have a problem?20:55
recon_lapgmagno: not sure20:55
recon_lapgmagno: still worth a try if you have access to one20:56
gmagnorecon_lap, right. But I don't :-/ Anyway, I think I'm givin up for today. I'll read about boot by eth, maybe it's possible :)20:57
gmagnorecon_lap, thanks a lot for helping!20:57
gmagnoSee ya20:57
recon_lapnp, good luck20:58
ochosiany folks around with experience in setting proxies in the running session?21:13
Unit193Global?21:14
ochosiUnit193: per user is fine21:16
ochosi  i tried: export http_proxy="server"21:17
ochosibut that doesn't seem to take effect immediately21:17
ochosiand i'd prefer to be able to switch proxies without restarting the session just for that21:17
Unit193No, that'd take effect for the shell you were in.  You can export that, then start whatever application from that terminal.21:18
ochosihmm, good point21:18
Unit193That should also change flash and java proxy if you start a browser from there, can check at aboutyourip.info (adblocked, no idea what ads may be)21:19
ochosiseems like at least the changes take effect21:19
ochosicause when i try to start firefox with a free proxy i found via google, there's no connection :)21:20
Unit193In firefox, edit > preferences > advanced > networking21:20
ochosiright, firefox was a particularly bad example21:21
Unit193export http_proxy="bleh" then you can do something like wget -qO- ifconfig.me/ip21:22
ochosithat wget command doesn't do anything for me21:24
Unit193ochosi: http_proxy="211.140.189.247:80" wget -qO- ifconfig.me/ip21:25
Unit193Exact command worked here, found on http://www.ip-adress.com/proxy_list/  (Who knew I had a good list? ;) )21:26
ochosiwithout export?21:26
Unit193That's only for one command, but yeah.21:26
ochosiinteresting, i get an ip as a reply21:26
Unit193That's the idea.21:26
Unit193Your proxy seems dead?21:26
ochosiin fact my gf has a proxy at work21:28
ochosione i obviously can't test now21:28
ochosibut i wanna set up a browser for her21:28
ochosii guess this way i could even push that one command in a script21:28
ochosiand never affect the home setup21:28
ochosiUnit193: thanks for your help!21:39
Unit193Sure thing, anytime!21:39
ochosii'm wondering why network manager doesn't have any proxy settings21:41
knomemaybe it's not supposed to be that "advanced" :)21:42
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pr0metheu5How do I uninstall xfce/xubuntu-desktop?23:30
Unit193You simply install something else.23:34
pr0metheu5Uh23:41
pr0metheu5no, I mean I installed xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, and now I'm running out of diskspace. Plus I have like, 4 other wms' and des'.23:41
Unit193!puregnome23:42
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome23:42
pr0metheu5 Sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, will that be sufficient?23:42
Unit193Read the link the bot gave you, it has it in there (And isn't that)23:44
well_laid_lawnI've never understood why the packages aren't tied to the meta package to make removal easy23:44
Unit193Understandable, I purge abiword, gmusicbrowser, and many others which removes xubuntu-desktop, would be a huge pain if that removed "Xubuntu" too.23:46

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