[02:23] <Estersios> hi
[02:23] <Estersios> somebody know if akregator can sync with google reader?
[04:57]  * raven_ {One Hour of Silence)
[06:09] <konqui> Hi, I am trying to make my Kubuntu system as minimal as possible, any ideas, I still want desktop effects and such but want to reduce stuff such as automatic update notifications etc any tips?
[06:28] <frogonwheels> konqui: most of those services &c you can configure in the system settings
[06:28] <konqui> frogonwheels: I am not refering to desktop environment stuff, also I run Kubuntu
[06:29] <konqui> frogonwheels: Ignore the "I run Kubuntu part" I thought I was in #ubuntu
[06:36] <Smurphy> Morning
[08:13] <fournine2> Are there binary packages for 4.9.2. available?
[08:14] <FlameReaper> Not yet I suppose
[08:14] <konqui> fournine2: Doesn't seem like it but I hope it goes into quantal final as the fixes are quite significant this time
[08:15] <FlameReaper> at least not when I last updated last night
[08:15] <fournine2> konqui: no backports for Precise?
[08:24] <gonssal_> did someone else have to install an additional 2GB with the latest dist-upgrade?
[08:24] <Smurphy> gonssal_: nope... Did you upgrade to 12.10 Beta ?
[08:24] <gonssal_> including a lot of latex- packages?
[08:24] <gonssal_> no, using 12.04
[08:24] <gonssal_> with updates ppa
[08:24] <Smurphy> lsb_release -a will tell you what you have.
[08:25] <gonssal_> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[08:26] <Smurphy> Just reenabled ppa kde backports ...
[08:26] <Smurphy> Wonder which version comes in :)
[08:26] <gonssal_> why on earth is this thing installing lots of ispell, latex and fonts packages now?
[08:27] <gonssal_> just did update and dist-upgrade
[08:29] <Smurphy> you have kde ppa active ?
[08:29] <gonssal_> yes, updates
[08:30] <Smurphy> weird. Not here. He just wanted remove 150MBytes of i386 compatibility packages. That's all, and add 560MB :]
[08:31] <gonssal_> nah will run the upgrade and then try to delete all the installed shit
[08:31] <Smurphy> How is KDE 4.9.1 BTW ? Never tried it - yet ... :}
[08:34] <Smurphy> ok - 4.9.2 - anyon has a link for binary packages for KUbuntu ? ppa backports ?
[08:36] <tsimpson> there are none, yet
[08:39] <fournine2> There are websites which claim that you can already install 4.9.2 for Kubuntu.
[08:40] <fournine2> (which is also the reason why I came asking here, because 'it didn't work')
[08:43] <tsimpson> the internet is full of half-truths
[08:44] <tsimpson> 4.9.2 is becoming available in the -proposed repository for Quantal now, but is still being worked on
[08:44] <tsimpson> there are no packages for Precise as yet, expect them after the release in Quantal
[08:44] <tsimpson> and keep an eye on http://www.kubuntu.org/news rather than whatever random website you used ;)
[08:46] <fournine2> and over you.  You're on the worst Linux distribution from a developer's (and so Gentoo Prefix) perspective since http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/.
[08:46] <fournine2> Why do Gentoo people apparently hate Ubuntu?
[08:47] <fournine2> The "disaster" systems are NetBSD, OpenBSD and Ubuntu: they are NOT supported.
[08:47] <fournine2> Not exactly positive.
[08:48] <Smurphy> saw that. No KDE 4.9.2 for KUbuntu :} yet ...
[08:54] <konqui> fournine2: Did you get that from a bootstrap article or something
[08:55] <fournine2> konqui: if you run bootstrap-prefix.sh you get that.
[08:55] <fournine2> konqui: I think it only shows that the author of that script is lazy/does not care about Ubuntu.
[08:55] <konqui> fournine2: And where did you that file?
[08:56] <fournine2> konqui: wget 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/alt/browser/trunk/prefix-overlay/scripts/bootstrap-prefix.sh?format=txt' -O bootstrap-prefix.sh && chmod +x bootstrap-prefix.sh
[09:00] <fournine2> konqui: it's just one big rage against multi-arch, and it's even out of date.
[09:01] <fournine2> Apparently everyone using Debian is braindead too.
[09:15] <Thecaptain2000> Hi, I am having a littleproblems with video effects, I have three monitors connected and my videocard is a radeon 6870. It should handle them like a charm but dragging windows from one screen to the other is becoming painfull to watch. any tuning tweek I could use?
[09:16] <Smurphy> Thecaptain2000: Don't think so. Using more than one screen can disabe the 3D Effects because acceleration is disabled.
[09:17] <Smurphy> How did you configure the 3 screens ?
[09:17] <Thecaptain2000> using AMD's own amdccc
[09:18] <Smurphy> Did you activate Xinerama ?
[09:18] <Thecaptain2000> accelleration is disabled if using more than one screen?
[09:18] <Thecaptain2000> nope
[09:18] <Thecaptain2000> at list I did not chose it
[09:18] <Thecaptain2000> I mean I did not tick any box saying xineramas
[09:19] <Thecaptain2000> just checked, the option xinerama is disableds
[09:19] <Thecaptain2000> disabled
[09:20] <Smurphy> There is one mode where acceleration is disabled with more than one screen.
[09:21] <Smurphy> I think - with cloned Displays on same resolution, you keep 3D Accel, all other modes - you loose them.
[09:21] <Thecaptain2000> likel it is xinerama
[09:21] <Smurphy> Didn't manage to get it to work -> Dell Precision 4600 Notebook, with high end Graphic card etc.
[09:21] <Thecaptain2000> I have three screens with different resolutions
[09:22] <Smurphy> I had issues with 2 screens only :) but eventually 3 will make a difference :D
[09:22] <Thecaptain2000> the card should have plenty of resources
[09:22] <Thecaptain2000> to handle this
[09:22] <Smurphy> It is not a matter of the card...
[09:22] <Smurphy> it is driver related.
[09:23] <Thecaptain2000> this is such a letdown
[09:24] <Thecaptain2000> is there a difference between Nvidia and AMD on this particular matter?
[09:24] <ussher_> Thecaptain2000: keep trying stuff, you should be able to get it to work.  Im running 4 monitors of different resolutions and it works fine.  nvidia though.
[09:24] <Smurphy> Nope. Same issue on both sides. Have also a Mac Mini - same issues.
[09:25] <Smurphy> ussher_: What setup did you use ?
[09:25] <ussher_> nvidia's one that writes to xorg.conf
[09:26] <ussher_> 2 monitors running on nvidias 'dual view' and the other 2 with separate x screens.
[09:26] <Thecaptain2000> also ati
[09:26] <ussher_> with xinerama
[09:26] <Thecaptain2000> I mean also ati writes to xorg.conf
[09:27] <ussher_> you can have my xorg.conf if you think it would be of any use.
[09:27] <Thecaptain2000> is it possible it has something to do with the frabe buffer size?
[09:27] <Thecaptain2000> *frame
[09:28] <Thecaptain2000> I would not know what to look for, moreover the options in xorg.conf are likely different as the parameters forthe two cards are
[09:29] <Smurphy> Thecaptain2000: xorg.conf uses generic parameters most of the time - so it should not be much of a difference.
[09:34] <Thecaptain2000> I am googling. >I believe I have accellerations (I can see the effects) just there are not enough resorces (like the 1ºGB of the videocard isnot sufficent or something?)
[09:39] <Smurphy> *rofl* If the 1GB of the video card is not enough - then I don't want to know "what" resolution you run ... 1Millionx1Million ??? :}
[09:57] <Thecaptain2000> 1920x1080 + 2500x1600 +  1920x1200
[10:24] <bmw> Anyone have Network Mgmt panel/systray icon reversed?
[10:50] <Solak> sigh... audio and linux is still a problem here :/
[10:51] <Solak> "KDE detected that one or more internal devices were removed." and it shows about all there is inside the system, and that's not removed...
[10:52]  * Solak sees HDA Intel PCH ALC887-VD and SB Audigy 1 ES.
[10:54] <Solak> lspci and aplay -l list all devices...
[10:54] <eagles0513875> hey guys i am tryign to run a java based site on chormium and its asking me to install the sun version of flash what package should i install as an alternative
[10:55] <gonssal_> Solak say yes, it will work anyways from my experience
[10:56] <Solak> gonssal_: problem is that nothing comes out of the speakers (in windows it does, so the hardware functions).
[10:56] <superbuntu> anyone?
[10:57] <superbuntu> i upgraded to the beta2 of 12.10 quezal kubuntu
[10:57] <superbuntu> and now i'm stuck in native 1900x1200 resolution
[10:57] <eagles0513875> superbuntu: ask in ubuntu+1
[10:57] <superbuntu> its heating up my  computer
[10:57] <eagles0513875> superbuntu: that channel is for 12.10 discussion and support
[10:57] <superbuntu> i have KDE ubuntu 12.10
[10:57] <eagles0513875> superbuntu: doesnt matter
[10:58] <eagles0513875> all 12.10 discussions are there this is 12.04 discussions and support here
[12:36] <francesco_> kde 4.9.0 sarà disponibile nei repo kubuntu updates?
[13:08] <skreech_> !es
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:23] <mocha> hi
[13:27] <joe_____> spricht jemand deutsch
[13:27] <joe_____> bin nur mal die software am testen
[13:28] <Pici> !de | joe_____
[13:29] <joe_____> Vielen dank
[13:29] <mocha> hi
[13:30] <mocha> i wont to learn english
[13:30] <mocha> can you help me?
[13:30] <Pici> mocha: ##english would be more helpful than #kubuntu for that.
[13:35] <GH0> Is there a reason why syslog would restart every day: Oct  3 08:02:00 localhost syslogd (GNU inetutils 1.8): restart
[13:40] <skreech_> GH0: So you don't have one huge log filling up your drive
[13:41] <GH0> skreech_, I would rather have one huge log file that eventually gets truncated after it reaches a certain file size, or is re-written/overwritten on a reboot.
[13:42] <skreech_> GH0: Syslog can't ensure that you will reboot
[13:42] <mocha> you
[13:43] <skreech_> GH0: But you may want to look at the options if you want it to cycle on size
[13:43] <mocha> mm,nkjh
[13:43] <mocha> hiubnm;ph
[13:43] <bazhang> mocha, not here
[13:43] <mocha> cgkkjbx
[13:43] <skreech_> Move the cat
[13:43] <mocha> cgujm
[13:43] <skreech_> mvcat
[13:43] <bazhang> !ot | mocha
[13:44] <mocha> can you help me?
[13:44] <bazhang> mocha, with what
[13:44] <mocha> i wont to learn english
[13:44] <bazhang> mocha, ##english NOT here
[13:44] <mocha> why
[13:45] <bazhang> mocha, /join ##english
[13:45] <skreech_> mocha: Because ##english is where you get help  for english
[13:45] <bazhang> mocha, this is kubuntu support not english training
[13:45] <mocha> thank you
[13:45] <skreech_> mocha: You are welcome
[13:45] <mocha> good bye
[13:46] <skreech_> mocha: We are not kicking you out from here
[13:46] <skreech_> Just saying if you want to learn english you should type /join ##english
[13:51] <sibel> hi people, i want install wininet via wine. but it giving me error. please help
[13:51] <bazhang> sibel, check the appdb
[13:51] <bazhang> !appdb | sibel
[13:52] <bazhang> sibel, then /join #winehq
[13:53] <sibel> appdb ?
[13:54] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org   <----- sibel
[13:55] <sibel> https://gist.github.com/3827036 this is my error in console
[13:55] <sibel> bazhang:  i copy my error that paste page
[13:56] <bazhang> sibel, check the appdb.   then /join #winehq
[13:57] <sibel> bazhang:  i am newbie. i go to that page but i only see list of some programs
[13:57] <sibel> i need wininet because of my work software. not game or anything.
[13:57] <bazhang> sibel, enter the name of the app there.
[13:59] <sibel> okay. bazhang
[14:18] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:18] <oquidave> hello
[14:19] <oquidave> am asterisk voip server and am peering it via bluetooth usb adapter to a phone...but asterisk complains that i shoudl set the voice setting to  0x0060 using hciconfig tool...can anybody help me with that. thanks
[14:23] <tsimpson> oquidave: I guess it wants you to run "sudo hciconfig hci0 voice 0x0060"
[14:23] <tsimpson> though you may have to mess with the "hci0" parameter, depending on your setup
[14:27] <oquidave> tsimpson: it says Can't write voice setting on hci0: Connection timed out (110)
[14:28] <tsimpson> make sure that the phone is connected when you run the command, other than that I can't really help
[14:28] <tsimpson> I don't have any bluetooth here
[14:38] <oquidave> hello again..which file do i specify the pin code for bluetooth pairing? thanks
[14:46] <hateball> oquidave: What do you mean? If you use the GUI it will let you set a custom pin when you attempt to pair a device
[14:46] <hateball> and after that, well... then it's paired
[14:48] <oquidave> hateball: i can do that via commandline?
[14:48] <hateball> oquidave: That I do not know, I have only used the GUI for it. Which happens to be very nice.
[15:02] <Elesa> Hi, how do I set up the system tray so that the Kopete icon doesn't hide? Or other icons?
[15:24] <Elesa> ...
[15:32] <kytkinvaijeri> iltaa
[15:48] <Riccardo> come fare una partizione su kubuntu aiuto
[15:48] <tsimpson> !it | Riccardo
[16:14] <txema> #español
[16:15] <txema> Hi
[16:15] <txema> Hi how set kubuntu to 1920x1080 pxci resolution on kubuntu 12.04?
[16:18] <Smurphy> pxci ? -> settings.
[16:19] <txema> kubuntu español por favor?
[16:19] <bazhang> !es
[16:23] <txema> Hello as I set the screen resolution of kubuntu on the basis that the max resolution available is 1600x1200, and my screen is full HD (1920x1080)
[16:30] <tomas_> test
[16:31] <tomas_> wooho
[17:01] <Txema> hay alguna forma de solucionar el problema de las resoluciones en este OS?
[17:02] <tsimpson> !es
[17:05] <Txema> #kubuntu-es
[17:10] <qw> hello all
[18:14] <foormea> hi. on kubuntu 12.10 (beta), kopete 1.3.1, i can't get online on gtalk. i'm pretty sure my settings are good and password is good. i tried finding a debug/extra verbose flag but couldn't find. what do you suggest?
[18:19] <lordievader> foormea: Try the #ubuntu+1 channel for 12.10 support.
[18:24] <foormea> lordievader: thanks. actually i found koepte has a replacement in 12.10, telepathy. but thanks anyway! :)
[18:24] <genii-around> !info imp4
[18:24] <genii-around> Hm
[18:45] <Kilos> evening all im using kde 12.04 and get no notification sounds in quassel konversation or xchat when focussed
[18:46] <Kilos> same as http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1106
[18:46] <Kilos> any ideas what i must do to fix this prob please
[19:14] <SIR_Taco_> Kilos: if you follow the links in the bug report you posted, it says to be fixed in 'future release', but also (more links in) that the notification system is being re-worked to remove duplications and reduce overhead
[19:16] <Kilos> ah ty SIR_Taco_. i will just leave it in another channel then , it works that way
[19:16] <SIR_Taco_> or minimize the window
[19:17] <Kilos> aha ty very much
[19:38] <Solak> Hello.
[19:38] <lordievader> Hey Solak
[19:39] <Solak> Shouldn't "sudo aptitude install libreoffice-l10n-nl" result in an active dictionary for the dutch language? I see an 'i', but LibreOffice doesn't notice the module...
[19:40]  * Solak notices that a 12.04LTS install by upgrade isn't a 12.04LTS install :-/
[19:40] <lordievader> Solak: I have spent quite a bit of time getting a Dutch spellcheck found one on some website, hold on let me find that.
[19:40] <Solak> some things that worked in the upgraded install don't work in the new install.
[19:41] <lordievader> Solak: If I remember correctly it was this one: http://www.opentaal.org/bestanden/doc_download/14-1-woordenlijst-v-200g-voor-openofficeorg-3
[19:42] <Solak> lordievader: hmm, it looks like the module is installed, but I don't see why libreoffice doesn't list it.
[19:47] <Kilos> night guys
[20:06] <crow_> I'm getting in my tray a Software Updates notification which lists a few security upgrades
[20:06] <crow_> but when I do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" the software updates list is still displaying the same updates. why isn't "apt-get upgrade" upgrading them?
[20:08] <crow_> btw, my mistake. there aren't any security upgrades, but there are upgrades listed anyway. same question remains though, why isn't apt-get upgrading them?
[20:08] <lordievader> crow_: apt-get update only updates packages if they do not make any significant change to the system, if a package (A) update wants to remove another package (B), apt-get update will not update package (A). However apt-get dist-upgrade will update that package.
[20:10] <crow_> lordievader, is a"pt-get dist-upgrade" safe and recommended?
[20:10] <crow_> apt-get*
[20:11] <lordievader> crow_: Generally speaking, yes it is safe. It is a good practice tough to keep an eye on what apt-get is going to do, see what it will install or will remove.
[20:12] <crow_> how about the "Software Updates" program? Will it do the exact same thing "apt-get dist-upgrade" would? And if not, which option would you recommend?
[20:14] <lordievader> crow_: I have no idea about the Software Updates thing, it is not something I use.
[20:15] <crow_> ok, thanks for your help
[20:15] <crow_> i'll use apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:15] <BluesKaj> muon/software updates , crow_ ?
[20:16] <lordievader> crow_: No problem.
[20:57] <matt__> can i upgrade kubuntu from cd to dvd?
[20:58] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: not sure what you mean
[20:59] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: well when you download kubuntu theres a cd which is 700mb whihc i installed and the dvd one is 3.3gb
[21:00] <avihay> you installed from the dvd and you want to know if you can now upgrade from the alt-cd?
[21:00] <matt__> avihay: no i installed from the CD version adn want to no how to upgrde to dvd
[21:01] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: the DVD just contains more packages/software that you may wish to install.... since you already have a functioning system you could just install the packages you want instead
[21:01] <matt__> avihay: not alter one the cd one which is 700mb
[21:01] <avihay> you mean upgread with the dvd, or make it so that you have all the packages that are installed by default from the dvd?
[21:01] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: oh ok thanks i wasnt sure what was on the dvd
[21:02] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: im new to kubuntu i used to use ubuntu then went to mint and used there distros for a while and liked kde but the mint one is crap so i though to try kubuntu as was well known
[21:02] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: essentially everything they wish fit on a CD... but you can just install it from your software center or whatever you want to use
[21:03] <shadeslayer> I think kubuntu-full is what is pulled onto the DVD
[21:03] <shadeslayer> yah
[21:04] <shadeslayer> matt__: ^ You can install kubuntu-full and have everything that's on the DVD
[21:04] <matt__> shadeslayer: is that from the package manager?
[21:04] <SIR_Taco_> shadeslayer: good to know... didn't realize there was such a package :)
[21:04] <shadeslayer> matt__: yeah
[21:04] <shadeslayer> SIR_Taco_: everything on ISO's is managed via tasks/meta packages :)
[21:05] <matt__> shadeslayer: ok thanks i need to still do all the updates but cant be asked tonight haha
[21:05] <SIR_Taco_> well yea... but it just never occured to me haha
[21:06] <matt__> Sir didnt you kow that then?
[21:07] <shadeslayer> :)
[21:07] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: didn't think about the kubuntu-full package... I've never used it. I just start with the base and add what I want/need
[21:08] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: thats fair enough half of the stuff ill probs wont use
[21:08] <matt__> btw you guys heard the company of ubuntu is not helping kubuntu no more
[21:15] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: they're just not giving them $$ anymore, not too worried about it
[21:16] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: so they will keep releaseing? how will they get there money then donations like linux mint?
[21:17] <SIR_Taco_> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems
[21:20] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: thanks the the sound of it it could benifit them
[21:22] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: keep in mind that most of the work is either done by the community/developers anyway or, the base system at the very least, borrowed from Ubuntu
[21:23] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: Ye it will be interesting to see where they take it
[21:24] <matt__> SIR_Taco_: btw does kubuntu stick to one KDE version to the end of support or does it KDE get upgrades
[21:26] <SIR_Taco_> matt__: it will stick to one major version, usually with minor version secuirty updates. But you can add the backports repo and receive updates to packages (like KDE) that are being tested/added to the up-and-coming release and deemed 'stable enough'
[21:26] <shadeslayer> yep ^
[21:26] <matt__> do either you guys do that?
[21:27] <shadeslayer> matt__: do what?
[21:27] <matt__> add the backport repo
[21:28] <shadeslayer> well, since I'm on precise and I like a stable system, I do add the backport repo
[21:29] <matt__> what version of kde you on then?
[21:29] <shadeslayer> 4.9.2 right now
[21:30] <matt__> cool if you wanted to go back to the version it came with could you do that?
[21:31] <shadeslayer> not advisable
[21:32] <shadeslayer> if you want to stick to officially supported stuff, use the archives
[21:32] <shadeslayer> otoh as someone who helps maintain the kubuntu backports repo, I'm certain that you won't face packaging issues
[21:33] <matt__> ok how would i find the backport repo? you help maintan the backport repos?
[21:34] <shadeslayer> matt__: yes, see /topic :)
[21:35] <matt__> shadeslayer: cool what do you mean see /topic?
[21:35] <shadeslayer> matt__: I meant see the channel topic
[21:35] <shadeslayer> or check kubuntu.org to figure out how to add the backports repo :)
[21:38] <matt__> shadeslayer: thanks just looking up to see what the changes are?
[21:38] <shadeslayer> I don't follow ....
[21:38] <shadeslayer> do you want a list of changes in 4.9.2
[21:39] <matt__> ye sorry its getting late my yping is getting bad :P
[21:39] <matt__> lol typing
[21:39] <shadeslayer> http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.9.2.php
[21:41] <matt__> looks like dolphin has some nice changes
[22:01] <Guest65630> anyone know how to change kubuntu so i login automatically?
[22:07] <Fuzzles> how do i install flash in rekonq?
[22:07] <avihay> !flash
[22:08] <avihay> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:10] <Fuzzles> ubottu: thanks didnt realise it was exactly the same
[22:10] <avihay> Fuzzles: I think installing kubuntu-restricted-extras should do it. though I think rekonq should have offered you do to it
[22:10] <Fuzzles> avihay: ok thanks
[22:10] <avihay> ubottu is so modest
[22:11] <Fuzzles> is he actually a bot?
[22:11] <avihay> yes
[22:11] <Fuzzles> lol ok btw how do i login to kubuntu automatically?
[22:11] <avihay> oh, you switch nicks so fast it's hard to track you
[22:12] <avihay> system settings->startup and shutdown
[22:12] <Fuzzles> who me?
[22:12] <avihay> ya
[22:12] <avihay> sorry, system settings->login screen
[22:13] <avihay> the Convenience tab
[22:13] <Fuzzles> avihay: yr somereason my name changed to guest and thanks
[22:13] <avihay> you were also matt__ before
[22:14] <Fuzzles> ye it got reset to guest :S
[22:26] <BarkingFish> !purekde