| dr_willis | Hmm.. Just noticed that under Synaptic->Software Sources .. it has a list of the Additional Drivers In use.... Showing my Nvidia drivers.. never noticed that befor. | 00:16 |
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| dr_willis | ;) | 00:16 |
| Daekdroom | dr_willis, it's the replacement for Hardware Drivers | 00:26 |
| dr_willis | The 'additional-drivers' tool you mean? aka 'jockey-gtk' ? | 00:27 |
| Daekdroom | Yes. | 00:27 |
| dr_willis | thats going to confuse a lot of people. ;P | 00:27 |
| Daekdroom | Yeah. It doesn't seem very intuitive to place it there | 00:28 |
| ActionPa1snip | i just install nvidia-current in terminal, way easier | 00:28 |
| Daekdroom | It's almost as if they are hiding it (which might be intentional) | 00:28 |
| dr_willis | i think they really should look into some sort of 'first time setup wizard' to handle a lot of this stuff. | 00:28 |
| dr_willis | Hmm.. webapps was working.. now its not. ;P thats another of those neat ideas that seems.. lacking once you start to use it. | 00:29 |
| Daekdroom | Did they change the message indicator icon? | 00:34 |
| Daekdroom | It's much better now. | 00:34 |
| dr_willis | I can see myself using the Software-center less and less. ;) just more 'noise' then actual info to do what i want to do... | 00:37 |
| ActionPa1snip | dr_willis: i'd say so too, apt-fast all the way | 00:45 |
| dr_willis | But you REALLY need this 'compost calculator' for ONLY $9.95 | 00:48 |
| designbybeck | since 12.04... on my netbook(just happened when i typed that)... I have a lag... everynow and then | 00:57 |
| designbybeck | I do type fast!?!?!? | 00:57 |
| designbybeck | but.....i dont' know why when i type.... ever so many words.... it will lag | 00:58 |
| designbybeck | any idea why? | 00:58 |
| ActionPa1snip | designbybeck: is the RAM healthy? | 01:00 |
| designbybeck | 1GB on the netbook ActionPa1snip? | 01:00 |
| ActionPa1snip | designbybeck: is it healthy though? | 01:01 |
| designbybeck | Dell 1012 mini | 01:01 |
| designbybeck | ...he hasn't been the to dr?! | 01:01 |
| designbybeck | how might I check ActionPa1snip? | 01:02 |
| ActionPa1snip | designbybeck: hold shift at boot and select memtest | 01:02 |
| designbybeck | Hmmm.... ok | 01:03 |
| designbybeck | ok....brb | 01:03 |
| spaceneedle | Ubuntu 12.10(nor Xubuntu 12.10) won't boot from a usb stick on a dell latitude d610. Tried nomodeset and I got a kernel panic--not syncing:attempted to kill init! error and a bunch of other lines. | 01:08 |
| bjsnider | can someone please confirm that totem works, can play stuff without an error message | 01:22 |
| Daekdroom | I can. | 01:22 |
| bjsnider | what kinds of files? | 01:23 |
| Daekdroom | mp4, mkv | 01:24 |
| Daekdroom | (both x264 iirc) | 01:24 |
| Daekdroom | xvid avi | 01:24 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: which version of totem? and what's the video codec? | 01:25 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, didn't want to bug you about this, but since you're up | 01:28 |
| bjsnider | it was 3.5.92 from the ppa | 01:28 |
| bjsnider | it will not play any file of any type, music or video | 01:28 |
| bjsnider | "this file cannot be played over the network" | 01:29 |
| bjsnider | it is not on a network resource | 01:29 |
| jbicha | I've not been running the gnome3 ppa the last few days, but it could just be that we need the new clutter-gst-2.0 | 01:29 |
| bjsnider | i built 3.6 here and tried it, and the same thing happens | 01:29 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: ok, try building clutter-gst-2.0 1.9.92 | 01:30 |
| bjsnider | i was going to ping ricotz about it tomorrow | 01:30 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, would i need to rebuild totem against it too? | 01:32 |
| jbicha | I don't know, I forget what happened the last time gstreamer-1.0 broke things | 01:33 |
| bjsnider | ok, i'll rebuild it just in case | 01:35 |
| bandit-led | any one else experiancing lockups after todays updates? | 01:39 |
| bjsnider | ok, installing that package without rebuilding totem doesn't fix it | 01:42 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, no change | 01:49 |
| jbicha | oh really? hmm... | 01:50 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, here's a strange thing. i'm seeing jack error message whenever i try to open a file with totem | 01:58 |
| bjsnider | Daekdroom, do you log in from lightdm or gdm? | 02:02 |
| Daekdroom | lightdm. | 02:02 |
| bjsnider | can you run cat .cache/gdm/session.log | 02:03 |
| Daekdroom | Well.. | 02:03 |
| Daekdroom | It doesn't exist, obviously. | 02:03 |
| bjsnider | can you start totem from the cli and play something to see if there's any errata? | 02:04 |
| bjsnider | or even just stdout | 02:04 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: totem 3.5.92 from the gnome3 ppa is working fine here | 02:11 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, if you logged in from gdm can you check the log for stdout or whatever when you are using totem? | 02:12 |
| jbicha | except for a grilo error, no problems | 02:14 |
| bjsnider | oh well, not going to worry about it anymore | 02:16 |
| designbybeck | ActionPa1snip: ....1 1/2 hours later | 02:24 |
| designbybeck | .......passed......... | 02:24 |
| Daekdroom | How can one remove a webapp? | 02:30 |
| Daekdroom | Uninstalling the corresponding package is not enough, apparently. | 02:30 |
| ActionPa1snip | !adlens | 02:38 |
| ubottu | If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping. | 02:38 |
| Daekdroom | ActionPa1snip, yeah, that doesn't tell me how to remove "Facebook" and "Google" from my messaging menu | 02:39 |
| ActionPa1snip | Daekdroom: dpkg -l | grep -i facebook | 02:39 |
| Daekdroom | Shipping webapps without an easy-to-find way to remove them is a bit.. meh. | 02:39 |
| Daekdroom | That didn't do it. | 02:39 |
| Daekdroom | It makes it not work anymore, but the shortcuts in Dash and messaging menu are still there. | 02:40 |
| Daekdroom | I don't get to see it in the Launcher whenever I open Facebook on Firefox, tho. | 02:40 |
| jbicha | Daekdroom: did you try logging out and logging back in? | 02:40 |
| Daekdroom | ... it's been this way for a few days. | 02:41 |
| ActionPa1snip | Daekdroom: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/install-new-ubuntu-webapps-technology.html | 02:41 |
| Daekdroom | I removed the packages for facebook and google, and the shortcuts are still there. | 02:41 |
| ActionPa1snip | Daekdroom: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+remove+web+apps | 02:41 |
| Daekdroom | That tells me how to remove the feature, not a specific webapp |: | 02:41 |
| Daekdroom | I do know I'm being annoying as well, but is it only me seeing the flaw there? | 02:42 |
| ActionPa1snip | Daekdroom: dpkg -l | grep web | grep app | 02:42 |
| Daekdroom | It seems to me it's not possible to get rid of the shortcuts. (I do have to confess I haven't tried removing all the webapp stuff, but I don't want to lose all my webapps) | 02:42 |
| Daekdroom | I could try that, however, I can get all the other ones back afterwards. | 02:43 |
| ActionPa1snip | they may be bundled in one single package rather than granularly | 02:43 |
| Daekdroom | The shortcuts? | 02:43 |
| ActionPa1snip | maybe | 02:43 |
| Daekdroom | As far as I know, they are created by Firefox. | 02:43 |
| Daekdroom | (i.e. when you click "Yes" on the offer to install the webapp) | 02:44 |
| ActionPa1snip | Daekdroom: not something I've seen tbh, I don't use firefox | 02:44 |
| Daekdroom | Well, after removing all the webapps related packages (which even accidentally removed Unity), all the shortcuts are still there. | 02:58 |
| Daekdroom | I can still find Amazon and Facebook in Dash for example. | 02:58 |
| Daekdroom | I'll start digging Launchpad for a bug report. | 02:58 |
| === tomaw_ is now known as tomaw | ||
| konqui | Is it possible to move the unity launcher to the bottom? I hate getting horizontal scroll bars | 08:28 |
| gnomefreak | konqui: i have not found a way to move it | 08:34 |
| md_5 | oh so thats what the unity install scripts do | 09:44 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:12 |
| vega- | hmm, standard ubuntu 12.10 install takes 1,5GB of memory after login with only one terminal open | 13:28 |
| jtaylor | what uses it all? | 13:29 |
| vega- | a lot of crap... xorg and compiz are top 2 | 13:29 |
| vega- | https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/memory-disk-requirements.html | 13:30 |
| jtaylor | both are at 0.6% for me | 13:30 |
| vega- | "You must have at least 44MB of memory and 500MB" hehe | 13:30 |
| vega- | recommended ram is 512 MB ... | 13:30 |
| vega- | jtaylor: well that kinda depends on how much ram you have total? | 13:31 |
| jtaylor | 4gb | 13:31 |
| vega- | me too | 13:31 |
| Daekdroom | Is it 1.5GiB of memory with or without cache? | 13:31 |
| vega- | xorg takes 9% while compiz is at 7% | 13:31 |
| vega- | Daekdroom: without, real usage | 13:31 |
| vega- | is RES column in top i believe | 13:32 |
| tsimpson | "ps aux --no-headers|sort -rnk 4,4|head" find out what's taking your RAM | 13:34 |
| tsimpson | ^ sorts all processes by memory usage, and prints the top 10 | 13:35 |
| vega- | http://pastebin.com/t4v9Gzdn | 13:36 |
| vega- | i have also found the gui to be very slow (opening dash with the win key takes about 7 seconds) | 13:37 |
| vega- | this with nvidia binary drivers | 13:37 |
| vega- | and typing keywords in dash is horribly slow | 13:37 |
| vega- | takes seconds for one character to appear after key is pressed | 13:38 |
| bazhang | !notes | 13:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) release notes can be found here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.04 | 13:53 |
| bazhang | not yet I guess | 13:54 |
| jaxyeh | what's really new with 12.10 release? Not really sure if it's worth an upgrade for me yet. | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | jaxyeh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 | 14:00 |
| Pici | Thats in the topic as well. | 14:16 |
| jaxyeh | BluesKaj: thanks! | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | Pici, yeah , that's where i got from | 14:39 |
| BluesKaj | got it | 14:39 |
| jokerdino | folks, HALP!. i am stuck bug #1060995 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1060995 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity stuck at "Where are you"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060995 | 14:49 |
| StFS | Hi. Isn't python3 supposed to be the default python on quantal? | 16:57 |
| ESphynx | Unity recommending Amazon products? Seriously?? | 16:57 |
| ESphynx | "Launch Firefox? Are you sure you don't want to buy a Kindle Fire instead?" -- is this for real? | 16:57 |
| jtaylor | StFS: many of the main packages now use python3 instead of 2 | 17:00 |
| jtaylor | but its not from the cd yet | 17:00 |
| jtaylor | also python will always point to python2 | 17:00 |
| StFS | ok... I just tried to install some alsa dkms package with dpkg but the package was for the wrong architecture and tried to start apport but I got a traceback on "/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/dkms_packages.py" with an "ImportError: No module named apport". Just not sure whether to report it on dpkg or apport... or something completely different!? | 17:09 |
| StFS | but I figured out that it's because the apport module is in python3 and not python2 | 17:10 |
| StFS | here's the full trace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258422/ | 17:11 |
| trism | StFS: weird that hook is ported to python3 | 17:19 |
| ESphynx | Seriously this Amazon thing is outrageous. | 17:46 |
| johnjohn101 | i love the amazon search.. just make sure you don't push any personal data into Dash. | 17:47 |
| ESphynx | johnjohn101: how can you love the amazon search there? | 17:47 |
| ESphynx | If I wanna search on amazon I'll go on Amazon's damn website | 17:47 |
| johnjohn101 | sarcasm | 17:49 |
| ESphynx | I was hoping it was =) | 17:49 |
| ESphynx | Is it easy to remove at all? | 17:49 |
| ESphynx | in fact I won't mind getting rid of Unity altogether as I hate it passionately. | 17:50 |
| johnjohn101 | i understand canonical wants make money but pushing this on use is a joke | 17:50 |
| johnjohn101 | i like unity otherwise | 17:50 |
| ESphynx | it is a joke. | 17:50 |
| ESphynx | I don't. | 17:50 |
| ESphynx | So I won't mind if I have to remove it all :P | 17:50 |
| johnjohn101 | kde? | 17:50 |
| johnjohn101 | i think you have to remove some shopping lens | 17:50 |
| ESphynx | johnjohn101: no, hoping to find the time to write my own DE one of these days. | 17:50 |
| micahg | umm, there is no shortage of DEs in Ubuntu | 17:51 |
| ESphynx | micahg: I'll settle for another one until I've got mine running :P | 17:51 |
| johnjohn101 | ESphynx: go into synaptic and search shopping and remove | 17:52 |
| ESphynx | ah great thanks johnjohn101. | 17:52 |
| johnjohn101 | i don't work or represent ubuntu but I think they'll get it correct | 17:52 |
| ESphynx | johnjohn101: They'll back off you mean? | 17:53 |
| johnjohn101 | supposedly a parameter will enable/disable | 17:54 |
| ESphynx | "According to Shuttleworth, the Amazon results are not advertisements. They're simply things that match your search terms." -- what? lol | 17:54 |
| tsimpson | ESphynx: you don't understand? | 17:55 |
| johnjohn101 | well it doesn't say amazon search in dash so it's a bit misleading. | 17:55 |
| ESphynx | tsimpson: I understand enough to be rolling on the floor :P | 17:55 |
| tsimpson | advertisement vs something related to what you're looking for | 17:55 |
| ESphynx | tsimpson: Matching search terms is what Google's whole business is built upon :P | 17:55 |
| tsimpson | exactly | 17:56 |
| ESphynx | at least they admit it's advertisement :P | 17:56 |
| tsimpson | it's a search result :) | 17:57 |
| johnjohn101 | i dont have a problem with optional amazon app/lense to quickly search amazon. I like it better than amazon web interface. would like for other sites as well. | 17:57 |
| johnjohn101 | but don't throw it into everything i do on the desktop. and don't send personal informationl. | 17:57 |
| tsimpson | it doesn't send personal information | 17:57 |
| johnjohn101 | if i type personal info into dash it doesn't? | 17:58 |
| ESphynx | sure it does | 17:58 |
| tsimpson | what personal info do you type into dash? | 17:58 |
| johnjohn101 | say i'm looking for a document with a name | 17:58 |
| johnjohn101 | or social | 17:58 |
| johnjohn101 | i don't want that stuff being sent to amazon | 17:59 |
| johnjohn101 | or canonical | 17:59 |
| johnjohn101 | or anyone | 17:59 |
| tsimpson | then disable it, and unplug the cable | 17:59 |
| johnjohn101 | you can't have amazon enabled for any business app | 17:59 |
| johnjohn101 | business computer. | 18:00 |
| tsimpson | businesses usually do OEM installs, so they'd disable it too | 18:00 |
| johnjohn101 | i like that dash can search amazon. | 18:01 |
| johnjohn101 | it's very powerful | 18:01 |
| johnjohn101 | just don't incorporate in machine search. | 18:01 |
| tsimpson | unfortunately, this is the way technology is moving | 18:01 |
| tsimpson | not just ubuntu, but everything | 18:02 |
| johnjohn101 | so that justifies moving this way as well. | 18:02 |
| tsimpson | it does, when you're a business | 18:02 |
| johnjohn101 | i'll pay for ubuntu if that's the case | 18:02 |
| johnjohn101 | by throwing amzon in our faces, it's making us pay, so i'd rather do it another way | 18:03 |
| tsimpson | how is it making you pay? | 18:04 |
| ESphynx | so would I. | 18:04 |
| johnjohn101 | ESphynx: you need to relog in to get rid of shopping | 18:04 |
| ESphynx | It's a blunt statement of where Ubuntu's going and it does NOT look good. | 18:04 |
| johnjohn101 | it's making me "pay" for showing me advertising but worse it's sending every lookup to canonical | 18:05 |
| johnjohn101 | not monetary costs but in time or distraction | 18:06 |
| tsimpson | then you have a choice, disable it, use another DE, or use another distribution | 18:06 |
| tsimpson | vote with your "feet" | 18:06 |
| ESphynx | Is the dock placeable to the right yet? | 18:07 |
| johnjohn101 | i have no doubt canonical will come to their senses | 18:08 |
| johnjohn101 | but like i said. i'd pay for ubuntu | 18:08 |
| zerwas | Can someone confirm that Pidgin isn't shown in the Messaging Menu anymore since quantal? | 19:20 |
| trism | zerwas: it hasn't been ported to the new messaging api yet | 19:20 |
| zerwas | trism, ah, thanks for the info, so i don't need to file a bug report :) | 19:21 |
| trism | zerwas: indeed, bug 1040259 | 19:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1040259 in smuxi (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFE: libmessaging-menu transitions for quantal" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040259 | 19:22 |
| zerwas | Thanks! | 19:25 |
| smallfoot- | unity is adware | 19:42 |
| smallfoot- | $$$ canonical $$$ ubuntu $$$ amazon $$$ | 19:42 |
| smallfoot- | oh wait, its not adware, its value-added customer satisfaction improvement addition | 19:43 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So - just updated... and now I can't login to any IM accounts. Anyone else or should I file a bug ? | 20:05 |
| bercik1 | Hi | 20:19 |
| bercik1 | I have got some problems installing ATi driver 12.9 manually on Ubuntu 12.10. fglrxinfo displays GLX. Any ideas please | 20:19 |
| bercik1 | Building and installation od .deb file goes with no errors | 20:20 |
| tritonx | having problem with mp3 not playing in Gmusicbrowser anyone else ? | 20:45 |
| tritonx | its been going on since I upgraded last week | 20:45 |
| bjsnider | can someone run a command from the cli please: | 20:55 |
| smallfoot- | which command? | 20:55 |
| bjsnider | gst-launch-1.0 playbin uri=file:///home/xxx | 20:56 |
| bjsnider | where xxx is the eventual path of a music file | 20:56 |
| smallfoot- | gst-launch-1.0: command not found | 20:57 |
| bjsnider | smallfoot-, you on kde or something? | 20:57 |
| smallfoot- | no, gnome | 20:57 |
| smallfoot- | i have gst-launch-0.10 thouhg, but not 1.0 | 20:57 |
| smallfoot- | i have 0.10 not 1.0 | 20:57 |
| tritonx | can that help solve my problem ? | 20:57 |
| bjsnider | tritonx, will stuff play with sushi? | 20:58 |
| tritonx | it plays with vlc, never heard of sushi , will try ... | 20:58 |
| tritonx | of course sushi comes with maki... | 20:59 |
| bjsnider | install gnome-sushi, select the file in nautilus and hit the spacebar | 20:59 |
| tritonx | installing... | 21:00 |
| bjsnider | smallfoot-, gstreamer1.0-tools | 21:01 |
| tritonx | I run xfce | 21:01 |
| tritonx | and thunar as file manager... | 21:01 |
| bjsnider | well, it wil only work with nautilus | 21:01 |
| tritonx | I jus twant to know why gmusicbrowser stopped working with the upgrade.... | 21:02 |
| tritonx | will it get fixed eventually ? | 21:02 |
| tritonx | I can use vlc in the meanwhile... | 21:02 |
| johnjohn101 | don't think there is much vlc can't handle | 21:04 |
| tritonx | if vlc cant handle it, you know the file is wrong | 21:05 |
| ochosi | tritonx: i hear you have a gmusicbrowser-related problem? | 21:07 |
| tritonx | yes | 21:07 |
| tritonx | it doesnt play any mp3 | 21:07 |
| ochosi | tritonx: i assume you've installed the gstreamer-plugins that are needed for mp3 playback? | 21:08 |
| ochosi | (i think it's -bad) | 21:08 |
| ochosi | (but i'm never sure...) | 21:08 |
| tritonx | let me see | 21:08 |
| tritonx | it was working before upgrade | 21:09 |
| johnjohn101 | will gstreamer 1.x be shipping with new ubuntu? | 21:09 |
| tritonx | there is no such package | 21:10 |
| bjsnider | johnjohn101, it is | 21:10 |
| tritonx | oh tge -bad .... | 21:10 |
| ochosi | tritonx: to be sure, read the package description to see which of the gst-plugins contains mp3 support | 21:11 |
| tritonx | bad base good ugly ? | 21:11 |
| tritonx | I d say the good one ? | 21:11 |
| ochosi | i can tell you in a few mins if you can't find out by yourself :) | 21:11 |
| tritonx | good already installed | 21:12 |
| tritonx | lets see with bad | 21:12 |
| ochosi | tritonx: this package should also work: gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner | 21:12 |
| tritonx | I just need to restart the program after ? | 21:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, if even | 21:13 |
| tritonx | I dont have the -partner package | 21:14 |
| ochosi | ok, then probably they renamed it | 21:14 |
| ochosi | in this case try -ugly and/or -bad | 21:14 |
| tritonx | lol got it | 21:15 |
| thiebaude | i have it in "other software" | 21:16 |
| tritonx | changed gstraemer to mplayer... | 21:16 |
| tritonx | in the setting | 21:16 |
| ochosi | tritonx: yeah, that obviously also works | 21:16 |
| tritonx | whatever works :D | 21:16 |
| tritonx | forgot you could use different "engine" | 21:16 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, i discovered what the problem was with totem et al. i didn't have all of the gstreamer1.0 stuff installed, for example, no alsa, pulse, or libav plugins | 21:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's one of the beauties of gmusicbrowser, that it supports multiple backends | 21:17 |
| bjsnider | it was kind of half there | 21:17 |
| tritonx | for what I do , whatever works, I want sound :D, its those kind of "bug" that scare some ppl away though | 21:18 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: ok, I think not recommending pulse is a bug, libav is still in universe so for 13.04 it would need a MIR | 21:20 |
| bjsnider | should also have the alsa package right? | 21:20 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, the lack of those plugins broke the gnome thumbnailer too btw | 21:21 |
| jbicha | if so, then totem in quantal should depend on the alsa plugin too | 21:22 |
| bjsnider | well, i can pull it out and see if totem still works | 21:23 |
| tritonx | what is that new thing that wants to install itself when you visit website ? | 21:24 |
| tritonx | its getting annoying | 21:24 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, everything seems ok without the alsa package, so i don't see the point of it | 21:24 |
| jbicha | ok, alsa is included with ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-gnome-desktop anyway | 21:27 |
| FernandoMiguel | !release | 23:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 23:22 |
| FernandoMiguel | !quantal | 23:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 | 23:22 |
| bjsnider | FernandoMiguel, i'm 100% sure you knew all of that info already | 23:54 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: not the exact date of the release | 23:54 |
| FernandoMiguel | was checking | 23:54 |
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