[00:03] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: afaik, if the person who created the hangout disconnects, the hangout ends
[00:03] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: that's why I want to try, last time I saw one of those issues, I saw a "we'lll be right back, technical issues" screen instead of it terminating
[00:04] <JoseeAntonioR> so, I want to make sure of that
[00:07] <philballew> I think they stay up
[00:07] <philballew> might be wrong
[00:09] <JoseeAntonioR> I want to see what happens if there's more than one person connected to, what I told you happened while there was only one person
[00:56] <jono> would someone mind redditing http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/03/the-canonical-community-team-and-13-04/
[00:56] <jono> thanks!
[00:59] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, in the process
[01:00] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, upvotes appreciated! http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/10uknd/the_canonical_community_team_and_1304/
[01:13] <jcastro_> pshaw
[01:13] <jcastro_> look at this chart yo: https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/VhJHhHqwaC7
[01:19] <JoseeAntonioR> cool!
[07:40] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:15] <jussi> anyone know what jono's sleep schedule has been like recently? (just want to know when I should expect him online)
[11:16] <smartboyhw> jussi, er expect him coming after 15:00 UTC (according to join messages):P
[11:18] <jussi> bah, thats really late. thanks for checking.
[11:20] <czajkowski> folks I do need your help, and the post explains it https://plus.google.com/102921374554385564572/posts/2chyKLhJiyR
[13:06] <daker> is Lola Chang a real person or just a persona ?
[13:08] <czajkowski> context ?
[13:10] <popey> a persona
[13:11] <popey> design team have a bunch of them
[13:11] <popey> she's the most commonly used
[13:12] <czajkowski> whoo packed for 23 days to Ireland 2 days back in UK then odff to UDS :D
[13:13] <smartboyhw> ;D
[13:20] <popey> when do you leave? in a month? :)
[13:20]  * popey knows you like to pack early
[13:21] <czajkowski> popey: tomrorow
[13:21] <czajkowski> 9:50 flight
[13:21] <czajkowski> but most of that goes to UDS with me so prety much packed for that now :)
[13:22] <czajkowski> add in some extra warm clothes for the evil cold
[13:37] <czajkowski> popey: I've changed, Jon has that affect, he's utterly disorganised, it's hard to be organised around him :p
[14:49] <mhall119> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2012/10/put_some_Debian_salt_in_the_Ubuntu_charity_marathon/
[14:49] <mhall119> \o/
[14:49] <smartboyhw> LOL
[14:49] <smartboyhw> \o.
[14:49] <smartboyhw> *\o/
[14:50] <czajkowski> nice
[14:52] <IdleOne> nice to get upstream involved, even if it takes a bribe to get them to do it :)
[14:54] <mhall119> not a bribe, a challenge
[14:57] <IdleOne> true.
[14:57] <smartboyhw> jussi: jono is here...
[14:58] <balloons> indeed, a challenege
[14:58] <jono> eh?
[14:58] <smartboyhw> :D
[14:58] <IdleOne> lol @ getting pinged all over the place
[14:58] <smartboyhw> jono, jussi wants to find you about 4 hours ago:P
[15:00] <jono> smartboyhw, aha
[15:01] <jono> dpm, jcastro_, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/efd220932f36e6c67f6c696a9a3a0ef26e1b3d7f?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:06] <SergioMeneses> hello! I wanna share something with you : http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2012/10/03/new-members-of-the-loco-council/
[15:06] <smartboyhw> Learnt about it
[15:07] <paultag> jcastro_: I saw your comment on Zack's blog - need ideas for real?
[15:09] <jcastro_> yeah
[15:10] <jcastro_> jono, ok so you reinvite us now?
[15:10] <jono> dpm, jcastro_, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/cda11f037a7030b3e6e5cf14e178f39a45f61036?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:10] <paultag> jcastro_: there are tons of easy bugs on orphaned packages - they're not RC, but totally low-hanging-fruit that'd be nice to fix - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=packages@qa.debian.org - but it's technical. Were you trying to do something technical or not?
[15:13] <balloons> jono, re-join
[15:13] <mhall119> jono: can you post the youtube link too?
[15:13] <balloons> we're curious about something
[15:34] <jono> dpm, jcastro_, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a1dadc03e76f90ae4e432530d4633147f689455a?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:36] <jono> hey, can someone go to http://youtu.be/JNGhKrO8ROE
[15:36] <jono> tell us if you see us
[15:37] <cjohnston> I do jono
[15:37] <Pici> eek
[15:37] <cjohnston> jcastro_: say something
[15:37] <cjohnston> the pirate went away already :-(
[15:38] <jono> cjohnston, do youy hear us?
[15:38] <cjohnston> wow.. and it hasnt even started yet
[15:38] <cjohnston> yes
[15:38] <jono> cjohnston, is it running?
[15:38] <cjohnston> balloons: I like your hat
[15:38] <cjohnston> yes
[15:38] <cjohnston> yes
[15:38] <cjohnston> wa wa wa
[15:39] <cjohnston> tomorrow is going to be a bad day.. lol
[15:39] <jcastro_> ok
[15:39] <jcastro_> you should see a video after the dog
[15:39] <jono> cjohnston, see the vid?
[15:39] <cjohnston> balloons: nice bike
[15:40] <cjohnston> no video
[15:40] <cjohnston> I see a bunch of people staring at it
[15:40] <balloons> lol
[15:40] <Pici> The staring is kind of creepy.
[15:40] <cjohnston> +2
[15:42] <czajkowski> jono: CDs mail before I get lynched :)
[15:42] <cjohnston> jcastro_: trim your nose hair
[15:43] <czajkowski> mhall119: can you move thatpicure of sit in front of it
[15:43] <czajkowski> the glare flickers
[15:43] <czajkowski> so you have a bright light behind you
[15:43] <mhall119> can you guys see us now?
[15:43] <jono> cjohnston, are we on air?
[15:43] <cjohnston> uhh..
[15:43] <cjohnston> it didnt restart
[15:44] <Pici> Mine paused itself.. trying to play now.
[15:44] <cjohnston> i dont see the new one
[15:44] <czajkowski> I dont see the new one
[15:44] <balloons> it should just restart
[15:44] <balloons> one moment
[15:44] <cjohnston> nope
[15:44] <balloons> we're trying to restart it
[15:44] <balloons> but that's what *should* happen
[15:47] <cjohnston> bbiaf
[15:56] <mhall119> sweet! 4 Debian donations already!
[15:56] <balloons> seems my phone can't handle g+ hangout with that much streaming video
[15:57] <balloons> they should let you mute video of all the remote
[15:57] <paultag> mhall119: :)
[15:58] <balloons> got a debian donation also :-)
[15:58] <jcastro_> for your phone I recommend joining it to your wifi
[15:59] <jcastro_> instead of your normal phone data plan
[16:18] <mhall119> balloons is ahead of me by £1
[16:18] <mhall119> we're both gaining on dholbach
[16:18] <balloons> he took a day off :-)
[16:19]  * balloons floats above mhall119 
[16:19]  * mhall119 pops balloons 
[16:47] <czajkowski> is dholbach in hibernation for tomorrow
[16:49] <mhall119> czajkowski: german holiday
[16:51] <czajkowski> ahh
[17:46] <mhall119> £255 balloons, you're behind now!
[17:47] <balloons> mhall119, you just continually refreshing the page?
[17:47] <mhall119> nope, got the email
[17:47] <balloons> I don't see myself behind
[17:47] <paultag> mhall119: where's the link, again?
[17:47] <balloons> ahh
[17:47] <balloons> it hasn't hit yet
[17:48] <mhall119> paultag: http://www.justgiving.com/mhall119 for me, http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ for the marathon itself
[17:48] <balloons> it's official, debian loves mhall119 > balloons  :-p
[17:48] <mhall119> lol
[17:48] <paultag> balloons: you were first, and zack and I were talking about it in d-devel
[17:48] <paultag> erm, mhall was first
[17:48] <mhall119> the last one wasn't form Debian though, it was form one of our loco guys, so I still need one more to meet my challenge
[17:48] <balloons> ahh.. one short
[17:49] <mhall119> I'll get there, I have confidence
[17:49] <balloons> paultag, I'm not worried.. It's all for a good cause, so no matter what, it's a good thing
[17:49] <paultag> balloons: totally :)
[17:49] <paultag> just sayin', it's not like debianfolk don't care, mhall119 was getting more airtime :)
[17:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hiya paultag
[17:50] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: challah
[17:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sup paultag ?
[17:51] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: straight chilln'. Stopped by to help jcastro_ find some stuff to contribute to, but alas, he's ignoring me again.
[17:51] <jcastro_> on calls
[17:51] <jcastro_> bbias
[17:51] <paultag> yeah yeah :)
[17:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hehe
[17:51] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: whatabout you?
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> Leaving Office. 23:22 here
[17:52] <paultag> a bit late
[17:53] <mhall119> oh, wait, chaynie updated his comment, it was for Debian!  Challenge met!
[17:53] <paultag> \o/
[17:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> Paultag, usual time for me these days ;)
[17:54] <bkerensa> balloons: If there were more time I would send you a FF shirt and try to get you to do the same deal mhall119 made but for Moz
[17:54] <balloons> ohh!
[17:54] <paultag> nah
[17:54] <bkerensa> next time
[17:54] <paultag> balloons: is doing manpages, much awesomer
[17:54] <balloons> bkerensa, good idea
[17:54] <balloons> is there a 'qa'ish type activity the moz guys would be down for?
[17:54] <bkerensa> unsure it depends by project
[17:55] <bkerensa> we are copying you guys though
[17:55] <bkerensa> be we decided to do more than 24 hours
[17:55] <bkerensa> :)
[17:55] <balloons> I saw your post :-)
[17:55] <bkerensa> a entire week
[17:55] <balloons> gl!
[17:55] <bkerensa> we will do relay marathan
[17:56] <bkerensa> but the idea is also we will work on other open source projects
[17:56] <bkerensa> and raise money for projects
[17:57] <balloons> gotcha, so it's a spin on the event
[17:57] <balloons> glad we inspired more
[17:58] <bkerensa> yeah https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.reps.general/DRWOv8ECRuM
[17:58] <bkerensa> we have done something like it in the past
[17:58] <bkerensa> In the past we had a event called Firefox Giving Challenge
[18:00] <bkerensa> balloons: http://www.crowdrise.com/celebrity-fundraisers/special/firefoxchallengeevent
[18:00] <bkerensa> so I gues $680k was raised
[18:00] <bkerensa> but it was a much diffent kind of event
[18:02] <balloons> bkerensa, that's awesome
[18:36] <JoseAntonioR> jono: ping, did you have an end broadcast button when you rejoined?
[18:41] <mhall119> JoseAntonioR: it was there, but we were already off-air
[18:41] <mhall119> and no way to re-start the broadcast
[18:42] <JoseAntonioR> mhall119: ok, that happened to me yesterday, already asked and waiting for a response
[18:45] <bkerensa> JoseAntonioR: ;)
[18:45] <JoseAntonioR> bkerensa: nope
[18:50] <JoseAntonioR> jono, mhall119: we're having probs, max hangout on air time is 4h
[18:50] <JoseAntonioR> and i've heard it terminates after 1.5 or 2 hours usually
[18:51] <bkerensa> ^
[18:51] <bkerensa> It can but its not a set in stone thing
[18:51] <bkerensa> but according to Dori Storbeck, Comm Mgr for Google+ Hangouts 4 hours is the max for hangout on air
[18:51] <mhall119> JoseAntonioR: 1.5 to 2 hours? really?
[18:51] <bkerensa> mhall119:  ^
[18:52] <mhall119> yeah, 4 hours is what we heard too
[18:52] <JoseAntonioR> I'll be contacting Dori Storbeck in a few minutes
[18:52] <mhall119> if we can get an exception, that would be great, otherwise we'll work around it
[18:52] <bkerensa> mhall119: so the 1.5 to 2 hours is mostly due to connectivity issues but it seems like a decent sample of people hit right around there
[18:52] <bkerensa> I might leave mine on tonight and screen record to see
[18:53] <mhall119> it'll timeout from inactivity
[18:53] <JoseAntonioR> what about a clock? and playing background music?
[18:53] <JoseAntonioR> no, that's prohibited by copyright
[18:53] <mhall119> I think it watched mouse/keyboard activity
[18:53] <JoseAntonioR> bkerensa: play your song in repeat in the background
[18:53] <JoseAntonioR> ouch
[18:54] <JoseAntonioR> ok, let me contact Dori from the ubuntu on air account
[18:54] <bkerensa> I wouldnt do that
[18:54] <bkerensa> considering the name policy
[18:54] <bkerensa> I e-mailed Dori
[18:55] <JoseAntonioR> question: where do you get those emails from? :P
[18:55] <bkerensa> JoseAntonioR: Most companies have formats for e-mail addresses
[18:56] <JoseAntonioR> oh, well
[18:56] <bkerensa> Canonical: first.last or aliases for first
[18:56] <bkerensa> google follow similar rules
[18:56] <bkerensa> ;)
[18:56] <bkerensa> but not strictly
[18:56] <bkerensa> so hit and miss
[18:56] <JoseAntonioR> let's hope we get an answer by today, otherwise we may need a call
[19:01] <bkerensa> and boom
[19:01] <bkerensa> :)
[19:01] <bkerensa> looks like they have two dstorbecks at google
[19:01] <bkerensa> but Dorian Storbeck got me in touch with Dori ;)
[19:04] <JoseAntonioR> yay
[19:30] <jono> mhall119, free for a quick hangout?
[19:34] <mhall119> jono: sure
[19:46] <jcastro_> haha man
[19:46] <jcastro_> I got a call from my movers
[19:46] <jcastro_> they are stopping by ...... tomorrow during the marathon
[19:47] <jcastro_> that should be great for entertainment purposes
[20:00] <snap-l> jcastro_: That's going to be awesome.
[20:00] <jcastro_> I think I'll go over my computer layout
[20:01] <bkerensa> jcastro_: you still have the standing desk?
[20:01] <jcastro_> no
[20:01] <jcastro_> not a dedicated one, I think this time I'll do one small section as a standing desk
[20:01] <jcastro_> and keep the rest normal
[20:02] <jono> mhall119, the pre-populated thing now works
[20:02] <mhall119> huh
[20:02] <jono> but how do I pre-populate the date field?
[20:02] <jono> mhall119, I recreated my DB
[20:03] <mhall119> jono: just give it datetime.datetime.now()
[20:03] <mhall119> Entry(entry_date=datetime.datetime.now()) or something like that
[20:03] <jono> mhall119, how do I specify that for a specific form field
[20:03] <jono> ahhh!
[20:03] <jono> gotcha
[20:03] <mhall119> specify it on the model you pass to the form using instance=
[20:04] <jono> thanks mhall119!
[20:06] <ajmitch> so when does this 24 hours start?
[20:08] <jcastro_> in about 14 hours
[20:09] <paultag> y'all better get some sleep
[20:11] <mhall119> no kidding
[20:12] <paultag> btw, lots of water
[20:12] <mhall119> coffee and tea
[20:12] <paultag> I just graduated, I'm still a pro at this -- just pound water all day, your body will be a lot more up to staying up over 20 hours
[20:12] <paultag> coffee will make you crash, pound water and eat every 6 hours or so
[20:13] <mhall119> we're gonna be stuffing out mouths on camera, aren't we
[20:13] <paultag> hahahaha
[20:13] <paultag> that or lots of adderall
[20:14] <mhall119> this whole thing isn't going to be big on dignity
[20:14] <paultag> that'll keep you cranked up for days
[20:16]  * ajmitch wonders if this stream can be recorded for future reference
[20:16] <paultag> ajmitch++
[20:16] <paultag> I'm hella making .gifs out of someone.
[20:17] <JoseeAntonioR> ajmitch: it will be recorded
[20:17] <mhall119> ajmitch: it'll be on youtube
[20:18] <ajmitch> right, wasn't sure if youtube would have something that long
[20:18] <mhall119> is there a CC-BY-SA-DON'T_MAKE_FUN_OF_US license?
[20:18] <mhall119> ajmitch: it should
[20:19] <AlanBell> does anyone care about the old branding on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[20:19] <ajmitch> we wouldn't make fun of you
[20:19] <mhall119> liar
[20:19] <paultag> I would make fun of you
[20:19] <mhall119> AlanBell: the design team probably does
[20:19] <mhall119> paultag: honest jerk :P
[20:19] <paultag> s/honest\ //g
[20:20] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: nope, but you have CC-BY-NC-ND
[20:21] <JoseeAntonioR> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/deed.en_US
[20:27] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: I just got response from Google and BCC'ed you and mhall119
[20:28] <bkerensa> AlanBell: I am surprised the design team has not said anything :P they have e-mailed me and PM'ed me on a few occasions insisting on not use the old branding
[20:28] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:29] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: ok got it
[20:29] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: and so it appears a 24 hour straight HOA is not possible but we will see
[20:30] <bkerensa> mhall119: perhaps 6 segments? :)
[20:30] <mhall119> bkerensa: that's what we currently plan on doing
[20:30] <AlanBell> bkerensa: any particular contact? Might see some of them at the release party http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2006/detail/ which you should all fly over for
[20:30] <bkerensa> but there would also be a short pause because you would have create a new HOA then change the code
[20:31] <bkerensa> so this might be a 25 hour marathon
[20:31] <bkerensa> :)
[20:31] <mhall119> bkerensa: yeah, which is a bit of a pain, but not difficult
[20:31] <bkerensa> AlanBell: I believe it was Paul Sladen
[20:31] <bkerensa> :)
[20:31] <AlanBell> last release party one of the design team told me how ironic it was that they were designing ubuntu but they all hated using it
[20:32] <AlanBell> oh sladen, he is cool
[20:32] <bkerensa> yeah
[20:32] <mhall119> bkerensa: let me know if you hear anything else from them, and thanks for checking into it
[20:32] <bkerensa> there was no nice wording around the branding
[20:32] <bkerensa> he said "You need to take that logo down and replace it"
[20:32] <bkerensa> no ifs ands or buts
[20:32] <AlanBell> I think that particular member of the team was on his way out, he was looking forward to a more apple loving job
[20:33] <AlanBell> Sladen is lovely and spectacularly eccentric
[20:33] <bkerensa> lol
[20:33] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: if she needs a call to discuss it, let me know here or via email
[20:33] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: I dont think they are going to discuss it
[20:33] <bkerensa> ;)
[20:33] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[20:34] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: I found a vinyl company for my Ubuntu pictograms
[20:34] <bkerensa> ;)
[20:37] <bkerensa> AlanBell: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/
[20:39] <popey> uhoh
[20:45] <mhall119> uh oh?
[21:01] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: which one?
[21:03] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: Skinit
[21:03] <bkerensa> So it seems it will cost about $29.99 per pictogram
[21:04] <bkerensa> I am going to check if we have a vinyl printer local but so far local pricing has been spendy
[21:04] <JoseeAntonioR> hope you can find it
[21:11] <bkerensa> mhall119: Google says no go
[21:11] <bkerensa> mhall119: they checked with their development team and cannot accommodate the request
[21:12] <JoseeAntonioR> urgh
[21:16] <mhall119> bkerensa: ok, we'll just switch it out every 4 hours then
[21:16] <mhall119> thanks for checking
[21:17] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: any ideas on how to switch?
[21:17] <bkerensa> everyone will have to move to a new one
[21:17] <bkerensa> and drop the new embed code into wordpress
[21:18] <bkerensa> and hope for the best on browser caching
[21:18] <bkerensa> people will definitely have to refresh
[21:19] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, but we need to minimize the time that it takes to move from hangout to hangout
[21:20] <JoseeAntonioR> which means, one person of the team needs to exit the current hangout, while the other 5 keep talking and so on, while he creates the new one, gets the link to the other participants (at least 2 min before), and the embed code gets changed
[21:24] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: I think we need to add a iframe and have it refresh every four hours
[21:25] <bkerensa> otherwise though who stay on page will see old widget
[21:26] <JoseeAntonioR> but what if the person joins the page after the marathon started? it will refresh later
[21:26] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: ^
[21:27] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: bkerensa: We'll update the embedded video on marathon.ubuntuonair.com each time
[21:27] <mhall119> people will just need to refresh
[21:29] <JoseeAntonioR> and what about adding a note saying "Refresh your browser at 14, 18, 22, 2 and 6 UTC for the hangout to update!"?
[21:29] <mhall119> we might do that
[21:29] <mhall119> we can make a schedule table too
[21:29] <mhall119> letting people know
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> are the broadcasts starting at 10UTC?
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> because if not, time changes
[21:34] <mhall119> yes
[21:34] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then
[21:37] <mhall119> ah man, balloons passed me again
[21:38]  * balloons grins sheepishly
[21:54] <bkerensa> jcastro_: second round of LED reviews coming... Ultra low watt consumption this time so nothing over 8 watt
[22:06] <snap-l> bkerensa: Nice
[23:33] <mhall119> jcastro_: where the list of charms available right now?
[23:35] <JoseeAntonioR> http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise ?
[23:51] <daker> cjohnston: mhall119 can you point me to the IS channel ?
[23:51] <JoseeAntonioR> daker: #canonical-sysadmin
[23:52] <JoseeAntonioR> daker: the one you joined is for ISD
[23:52] <daker> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[23:53] <bkerensa> mhall119: does your wifi card have a N driver in the kernel?
[23:54] <bkerensa> I just realized the kernel does not appear to support 802.11n connectivity for my chipset
[23:59] <mhall119> anybody know of a package/server/tools for managing a shared-hosting server with multiple customers?
[23:59] <mhall119> bkerensa: no idea