[00:03] JoseeAntonioR: afaik, if the person who created the hangout disconnects, the hangout ends [00:03] mhall119: that's why I want to try, last time I saw one of those issues, I saw a "we'lll be right back, technical issues" screen instead of it terminating [00:04] so, I want to make sure of that [00:07] I think they stay up [00:07] might be wrong [00:09] I want to see what happens if there's more than one person connected to, what I told you happened while there was only one person [00:56] would someone mind redditing http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/03/the-canonical-community-team-and-13-04/ [00:56] thanks! [00:59] ok, in the process [01:00] ok, upvotes appreciated! http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/10uknd/the_canonical_community_team_and_1304/ [01:13] pshaw [01:13] look at this chart yo: https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/VhJHhHqwaC7 [01:19] cool! [07:40] aloha [11:15] anyone know what jono's sleep schedule has been like recently? (just want to know when I should expect him online) [11:16] jussi, er expect him coming after 15:00 UTC (according to join messages):P [11:18] bah, thats really late. thanks for checking. [11:20] folks I do need your help, and the post explains it https://plus.google.com/102921374554385564572/posts/2chyKLhJiyR [13:06] is Lola Chang a real person or just a persona ? [13:08] context ? [13:10] a persona [13:11] design team have a bunch of them [13:11] she's the most commonly used [13:12] whoo packed for 23 days to Ireland 2 days back in UK then odff to UDS :D [13:13] ;D [13:20] when do you leave? in a month? :) [13:20] * popey knows you like to pack early [13:21] popey: tomrorow [13:21] 9:50 flight [13:21] but most of that goes to UDS with me so prety much packed for that now :) [13:22] add in some extra warm clothes for the evil cold === smartboyhw is now known as nemesis-project === nemesis-project is now known as smartboyhw [13:37] popey: I've changed, Jon has that affect, he's utterly disorganised, it's hard to be organised around him :p [14:49] http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2012/10/put_some_Debian_salt_in_the_Ubuntu_charity_marathon/ [14:49] \o/ [14:49] LOL [14:49] \o. [14:49] *\o/ [14:50] nice [14:52] nice to get upstream involved, even if it takes a bribe to get them to do it :) [14:54] not a bribe, a challenge [14:57] true. [14:57] jussi: jono is here... [14:58] indeed, a challenege [14:58] eh? [14:58] :D [14:58] lol @ getting pinged all over the place [14:58] jono, jussi wants to find you about 4 hours ago:P [15:00] smartboyhw, aha [15:01] dpm, jcastro_, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/efd220932f36e6c67f6c696a9a3a0ef26e1b3d7f?authuser=0&hl=en-US [15:06] hello! I wanna share something with you : http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2012/10/03/new-members-of-the-loco-council/ [15:06] Learnt about it [15:07] jcastro_: I saw your comment on Zack's blog - need ideas for real? [15:09] yeah [15:10] jono, ok so you reinvite us now? [15:10] dpm, jcastro_, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/cda11f037a7030b3e6e5cf14e178f39a45f61036?authuser=0&hl=en-US [15:10] jcastro_: there are tons of easy bugs on orphaned packages - they're not RC, but totally low-hanging-fruit that'd be nice to fix - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=packages@qa.debian.org - but it's technical. Were you trying to do something technical or not? [15:13] jono, re-join [15:13] jono: can you post the youtube link too? [15:13] we're curious about something [15:34] dpm, jcastro_, mhall119, balloons https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a1dadc03e76f90ae4e432530d4633147f689455a?authuser=0&hl=en-US [15:36] hey, can someone go to http://youtu.be/JNGhKrO8ROE [15:36] tell us if you see us [15:37] I do jono [15:37] eek [15:37] jcastro_: say something [15:37] the pirate went away already :-( [15:38] cjohnston, do youy hear us? [15:38] wow.. and it hasnt even started yet [15:38] yes [15:38] cjohnston, is it running? [15:38] balloons: I like your hat [15:38] yes [15:38] yes [15:38] wa wa wa [15:39] tomorrow is going to be a bad day.. lol [15:39] ok [15:39] you should see a video after the dog [15:39] cjohnston, see the vid? [15:39] balloons: nice bike [15:40] no video [15:40] I see a bunch of people staring at it [15:40] lol [15:40] The staring is kind of creepy. [15:40] +2 [15:42] jono: CDs mail before I get lynched :) [15:42] jcastro_: trim your nose hair [15:43] mhall119: can you move thatpicure of sit in front of it [15:43] the glare flickers [15:43] so you have a bright light behind you [15:43] can you guys see us now? [15:43] cjohnston, are we on air? [15:43] uhh.. [15:43] it didnt restart [15:44] Mine paused itself.. trying to play now. [15:44] i dont see the new one [15:44] I dont see the new one [15:44] it should just restart [15:44] one moment [15:44] nope [15:44] we're trying to restart it [15:44] but that's what *should* happen [15:47] bbiaf [15:56] sweet! 4 Debian donations already! [15:56] seems my phone can't handle g+ hangout with that much streaming video [15:57] they should let you mute video of all the remote [15:57] mhall119: :) [15:58] got a debian donation also :-) [15:58] for your phone I recommend joining it to your wifi [15:59] instead of your normal phone data plan [16:18] balloons is ahead of me by £1 [16:18] we're both gaining on dholbach [16:18] he took a day off :-) [16:19] * balloons floats above mhall119 [16:19] * mhall119 pops balloons [16:47] is dholbach in hibernation for tomorrow [16:49] czajkowski: german holiday [16:51] ahh [17:46] £255 balloons, you're behind now! [17:47] mhall119, you just continually refreshing the page? [17:47] nope, got the email [17:47] I don't see myself behind [17:47] mhall119: where's the link, again? [17:47] ahh [17:47] it hasn't hit yet [17:48] paultag: http://www.justgiving.com/mhall119 for me, http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ for the marathon itself [17:48] it's official, debian loves mhall119 > balloons :-p [17:48] lol [17:48] balloons: you were first, and zack and I were talking about it in d-devel [17:48] erm, mhall was first [17:48] the last one wasn't form Debian though, it was form one of our loco guys, so I still need one more to meet my challenge [17:48] ahh.. one short [17:49] I'll get there, I have confidence [17:49] paultag, I'm not worried.. It's all for a good cause, so no matter what, it's a good thing [17:49] balloons: totally :) [17:49] just sayin', it's not like debianfolk don't care, mhall119 was getting more airtime :) [17:50] Hiya paultag [17:50] IAmNotThatGuy: challah [17:51] Sup paultag ? [17:51] IAmNotThatGuy: straight chilln'. Stopped by to help jcastro_ find some stuff to contribute to, but alas, he's ignoring me again. [17:51] on calls [17:51] bbias [17:51] yeah yeah :) [17:51] Hehe [17:51] IAmNotThatGuy: whatabout you? [17:52] Leaving Office. 23:22 here [17:52] a bit late [17:53] oh, wait, chaynie updated his comment, it was for Debian! Challenge met! [17:53] \o/ [17:53] Paultag, usual time for me these days ;) [17:54] balloons: If there were more time I would send you a FF shirt and try to get you to do the same deal mhall119 made but for Moz [17:54] ohh! [17:54] nah [17:54] next time [17:54] balloons: is doing manpages, much awesomer [17:54] bkerensa, good idea [17:54] is there a 'qa'ish type activity the moz guys would be down for? [17:54] unsure it depends by project [17:55] we are copying you guys though [17:55] be we decided to do more than 24 hours [17:55] :) [17:55] I saw your post :-) [17:55] a entire week [17:55] gl! [17:55] we will do relay marathan [17:56] but the idea is also we will work on other open source projects [17:56] and raise money for projects === jrgifford is now known as Guest9882 [17:57] gotcha, so it's a spin on the event [17:57] glad we inspired more [17:58] yeah https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mozilla.reps.general/DRWOv8ECRuM [17:58] we have done something like it in the past [17:58] In the past we had a event called Firefox Giving Challenge [18:00] balloons: http://www.crowdrise.com/celebrity-fundraisers/special/firefoxchallengeevent [18:00] so I gues $680k was raised [18:00] but it was a much diffent kind of event [18:02] bkerensa, that's awesome [18:36] jono: ping, did you have an end broadcast button when you rejoined? [18:41] JoseAntonioR: it was there, but we were already off-air [18:41] and no way to re-start the broadcast [18:42] mhall119: ok, that happened to me yesterday, already asked and waiting for a response [18:45] JoseAntonioR: ;) [18:45] bkerensa: nope [18:50] jono, mhall119: we're having probs, max hangout on air time is 4h [18:50] and i've heard it terminates after 1.5 or 2 hours usually [18:51] ^ [18:51] It can but its not a set in stone thing [18:51] but according to Dori Storbeck, Comm Mgr for Google+ Hangouts 4 hours is the max for hangout on air [18:51] JoseAntonioR: 1.5 to 2 hours? really? [18:51] mhall119: ^ [18:52] yeah, 4 hours is what we heard too [18:52] I'll be contacting Dori Storbeck in a few minutes [18:52] if we can get an exception, that would be great, otherwise we'll work around it [18:52] mhall119: so the 1.5 to 2 hours is mostly due to connectivity issues but it seems like a decent sample of people hit right around there [18:52] I might leave mine on tonight and screen record to see [18:53] it'll timeout from inactivity [18:53] what about a clock? and playing background music? [18:53] no, that's prohibited by copyright [18:53] I think it watched mouse/keyboard activity [18:53] bkerensa: play your song in repeat in the background [18:53] ouch [18:54] ok, let me contact Dori from the ubuntu on air account [18:54] I wouldnt do that [18:54] considering the name policy [18:54] I e-mailed Dori [18:55] question: where do you get those emails from? :P [18:55] JoseAntonioR: Most companies have formats for e-mail addresses [18:56] oh, well [18:56] Canonical: first.last or aliases for first [18:56] google follow similar rules [18:56] ;) [18:56] but not strictly [18:56] so hit and miss [18:56] let's hope we get an answer by today, otherwise we may need a call [19:01] and boom [19:01] :) [19:01] looks like they have two dstorbecks at google [19:01] but Dorian Storbeck got me in touch with Dori ;) [19:04] yay [19:30] mhall119, free for a quick hangout? [19:34] jono: sure [19:46] haha man [19:46] I got a call from my movers [19:46] they are stopping by ...... tomorrow during the marathon [19:47] that should be great for entertainment purposes [20:00] jcastro_: That's going to be awesome. [20:00] I think I'll go over my computer layout [20:01] jcastro_: you still have the standing desk? [20:01] no [20:01] not a dedicated one, I think this time I'll do one small section as a standing desk [20:01] and keep the rest normal [20:02] mhall119, the pre-populated thing now works [20:02] huh [20:02] but how do I pre-populate the date field? [20:02] mhall119, I recreated my DB [20:03] jono: just give it datetime.datetime.now() [20:03] Entry(entry_date=datetime.datetime.now()) or something like that [20:03] mhall119, how do I specify that for a specific form field [20:03] ahhh! [20:03] gotcha [20:03] specify it on the model you pass to the form using instance= [20:04] thanks mhall119! [20:06] so when does this 24 hours start? [20:08] in about 14 hours [20:09] y'all better get some sleep [20:11] no kidding [20:12] btw, lots of water [20:12] coffee and tea [20:12] I just graduated, I'm still a pro at this -- just pound water all day, your body will be a lot more up to staying up over 20 hours [20:12] coffee will make you crash, pound water and eat every 6 hours or so [20:13] we're gonna be stuffing out mouths on camera, aren't we [20:13] hahahaha [20:13] that or lots of adderall [20:14] this whole thing isn't going to be big on dignity [20:14] that'll keep you cranked up for days [20:16] * ajmitch wonders if this stream can be recorded for future reference [20:16] ajmitch++ [20:16] I'm hella making .gifs out of someone. [20:17] ajmitch: it will be recorded [20:17] ajmitch: it'll be on youtube [20:18] right, wasn't sure if youtube would have something that long [20:18] is there a CC-BY-SA-DON'T_MAKE_FUN_OF_US license? [20:18] ajmitch: it should [20:19] does anyone care about the old branding on http://packages.ubuntu.com [20:19] we wouldn't make fun of you [20:19] liar [20:19] I would make fun of you [20:19] AlanBell: the design team probably does [20:19] paultag: honest jerk :P [20:19] s/honest\ //g [20:20] mhall119: nope, but you have CC-BY-NC-ND [20:21] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/deed.en_US [20:27] JoseeAntonioR: I just got response from Google and BCC'ed you and mhall119 [20:28] AlanBell: I am surprised the design team has not said anything :P they have e-mailed me and PM'ed me on a few occasions insisting on not use the old branding [20:28] ;p [20:29] bkerensa: ok got it [20:29] JoseeAntonioR: and so it appears a 24 hour straight HOA is not possible but we will see [20:30] mhall119: perhaps 6 segments? :) [20:30] bkerensa: that's what we currently plan on doing [20:30] bkerensa: any particular contact? Might see some of them at the release party http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2006/detail/ which you should all fly over for [20:30] but there would also be a short pause because you would have create a new HOA then change the code [20:31] so this might be a 25 hour marathon [20:31] :) [20:31] bkerensa: yeah, which is a bit of a pain, but not difficult [20:31] AlanBell: I believe it was Paul Sladen [20:31] :) [20:31] last release party one of the design team told me how ironic it was that they were designing ubuntu but they all hated using it [20:32] oh sladen, he is cool [20:32] yeah [20:32] bkerensa: let me know if you hear anything else from them, and thanks for checking into it [20:32] there was no nice wording around the branding [20:32] he said "You need to take that logo down and replace it" [20:32] no ifs ands or buts [20:32] I think that particular member of the team was on his way out, he was looking forward to a more apple loving job [20:33] Sladen is lovely and spectacularly eccentric [20:33] lol [20:33] bkerensa: if she needs a call to discuss it, let me know here or via email [20:33] JoseeAntonioR: I dont think they are going to discuss it [20:33] ;) [20:33] ok! [20:34] JoseeAntonioR: I found a vinyl company for my Ubuntu pictograms [20:34] ;) [20:37] AlanBell: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/ [20:39] uhoh [20:45] uh oh? [21:01] bkerensa: which one? [21:03] JoseeAntonioR: Skinit [21:03] So it seems it will cost about $29.99 per pictogram [21:04] I am going to check if we have a vinyl printer local but so far local pricing has been spendy [21:04] hope you can find it [21:11] mhall119: Google says no go [21:11] mhall119: they checked with their development team and cannot accommodate the request [21:12] urgh [21:16] bkerensa: ok, we'll just switch it out every 4 hours then [21:16] thanks for checking [21:17] mhall119: any ideas on how to switch? [21:17] everyone will have to move to a new one [21:17] and drop the new embed code into wordpress [21:18] and hope for the best on browser caching [21:18] people will definitely have to refresh [21:19] ok, but we need to minimize the time that it takes to move from hangout to hangout [21:20] which means, one person of the team needs to exit the current hangout, while the other 5 keep talking and so on, while he creates the new one, gets the link to the other participants (at least 2 min before), and the embed code gets changed [21:24] JoseeAntonioR: I think we need to add a iframe and have it refresh every four hours [21:25] otherwise though who stay on page will see old widget [21:26] but what if the person joins the page after the marathon started? it will refresh later [21:26] bkerensa: ^ [21:27] JoseeAntonioR: bkerensa: We'll update the embedded video on marathon.ubuntuonair.com each time [21:27] people will just need to refresh [21:29] and what about adding a note saying "Refresh your browser at 14, 18, 22, 2 and 6 UTC for the hangout to update!"? [21:29] we might do that [21:29] we can make a schedule table too [21:29] letting people know [21:31] are the broadcasts starting at 10UTC? [21:31] because if not, time changes [21:34] yes [21:34] ok, then [21:37] ah man, balloons passed me again [21:38] * balloons grins sheepishly [21:54] jcastro_: second round of LED reviews coming... Ultra low watt consumption this time so nothing over 8 watt [22:06] bkerensa: Nice [23:33] jcastro_: where the list of charms available right now? [23:35] http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise ? [23:51] cjohnston: mhall119 can you point me to the IS channel ? [23:51] daker: #canonical-sysadmin [23:52] daker: the one you joined is for ISD [23:52] thanks JoseeAntonioR [23:53] mhall119: does your wifi card have a N driver in the kernel? [23:54] I just realized the kernel does not appear to support 802.11n connectivity for my chipset [23:59] anybody know of a package/server/tools for managing a shared-hosting server with multiple customers? [23:59] bkerensa: no idea