[01:39] <darkxst> jbicha, looks like ubuntu have removed gdm support from indicator-session
[01:39] <darkxst> so user switching from unity while running gdm has no chance of working
[01:46] <jbicha> well that seems short-sighted of them :(
[02:17] <jbicha> darkxst: hmm, major casper upgrade today, did you file a bug report for our remaining tweaks?
[02:20] <jbicha> everaldo: I think we're just going to end up shipping 12.10 without a gnome installer slideshow
[02:20] <darkxst> jbicha, I have an open merge request for the password dialog tweak
[02:21] <darkxst> I haven't yet done the username tweak, since I am waiting to see if we can get autologin (log-out) fixed
[02:21] <darkxst> otherwise will have to disable autologin completely
[02:24] <jbicha> autologin worked for Beta 2, didn't it?
[02:24] <jbicha> for the live environment
[02:26] <darkxst> yeh, but its broken now
[02:26] <darkxst> possible it only worked due to one of the other bugs that was fixed
[02:26] <darkxst> well autologin works, but you can't logout again
[02:27] <darkxst> anyway halfline is going to try look into it, in the next few days
[02:28] <jbicha> ok, I haven't rebuilt the images since Thursday, I probably should be building daily since final freeze is only a week away
[02:33] <darkxst> and it worked then?
[02:34] <jbicha> yeah, in the live environment autologin worked and I was able to logout from Shell and choose Classic
[02:34] <darkxst> ah, but you couldn't log back, since that was before this landed https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/1058338
[02:36] <jbicha> well Classic didn't have a logout button... but except for that it worked fine
[03:17] <darkxst> apparently it only happens when username != hostname
[03:17] <Wilson2B> So for weeks now I thought my problem was Unity / Compiz. Turns out it was #cairo-dock,  Bottom of screen would go blank on primary display only. Has anyone seen this before?
[03:18] <darkxst> Wilson2B, yeh cairo-dock does that here (on secondary display)
[03:19] <Wilson2B> interesting
[03:20] <Wilson2B> It's the primary for me, for example when I do dual screen, the bottom screen is full , when I make it primary it cuts off at bottom Cairo tray
[03:20] <Wilson2B> like it takes up a large rectangle of space
[03:21] <Wilson2B> Trying to figure out how to fix it, I reset the settings (Ithink) and uninstalled / reinstalled Cairo doc
[03:24] <darkxst> jbicha, anyway username patch has to go in build script
[03:24] <darkxst> jbicha, seems to work ok when I set *both* username and hostname to "gnome"
[06:27] <everaldo> darkxst, ping
[06:27] <everaldo> did the text appear for you?
[06:28] <everaldo> (on plymouth screen)
[06:37] <everaldo> humm, strange, looks like we have some errors on script
[09:33] <darkxst> everaldo, pong
[09:33] <darkxst> what errors?
[09:45] <darkxst> everaldo, you need to add the other files back
[09:45] <darkxst> progress*.png and ubuntu-logo*.png
[10:02] <darkxst> progress dots are used for the password box, and currently logo is used to position text.
[10:28] <everaldo> darkxst, I have it working here
[10:28] <everaldo> but I am thinking about remove unused staff
[10:29] <everaldo> it needed the images because it is used to calculate text and password box positions
[10:29] <darkxst> yes, I know
[10:30] <darkxst> but I left it like that, since its safer than removing it all
[10:30] <everaldo> what do you think, keep all stuff from old theme
[10:30] <everaldo> os just add images to get it working?
[10:30] <everaldo> (btw, alread changed colors here)
[10:30] <darkxst> just put the images back in
[10:31] <darkxst> I will clean it up at some point, but should be fine for now
[10:32] <everaldo> ok, I will put images back
[10:32] <everaldo> it is faster
[10:32] <everaldo> maybe a bug report to clean up later
[10:33] <darkxst> the main issue is, I don't even know how to test all the features in that script.
[10:36] <everaldo> darkxst, https://code.launchpad.net/~ecanuto/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings-bug1060123
[10:37] <everaldo> do you know how I can associate a bug report to a specific branch?
[10:37] <everaldo> or we don't need it?
[10:41] <darkxst> you missing the `*16.png` files
[10:41] <everaldo> darkxst, yes, because I don't have it in blue colors
[10:42] <everaldo> just on normal ubuntu colors
[10:43] <everaldo> lubuntu also don't have *16 pngs
[10:44] <everaldo> unfortunatelly svgs is not available
[10:44] <darkxst> well in that case remove the "if (bits_per_pixel == 4) {" statement that declares the 16.png names
[10:46] <everaldo> darkxst, do you know how to test in 4 bits per pixel?
[10:46] <everaldo> I mean, theres a way to simulate
[10:46] <everaldo> ?
[10:46] <darkxst> you would need to restart X
[10:47] <darkxst> (and configure it in xorg.conf)
[10:48] <everaldo> whats about include the *16.png from ubuntu theme and fix it for 13.04 ?
[10:48] <darkxst> or that, the only one that gets displayed is progress_dots_off anyway
[10:49] <everaldo> I will try here to convert the images
[10:49] <everaldo> if it look ok then we can use it
[10:52] <darkxst> why the huge branch name? you can just do ~ecanuto/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/branch_name
[10:53] <everaldo> just saw  some people doing it and start to do the same
[10:54] <everaldo> I really don't have too much experience with launchpad so I try to mimic some other people
[10:55] <everaldo> let me try to use tiny name
[10:55] <darkxst> progress_dot_on.png is not used, so doesnt need to be blue
[10:56] <darkxst> if you want blue dots, then dot_off should be the blue one
[10:56]  * smartboyhw finds out it is the 24-hour marathon today:P
[10:56] <everaldo> darkxst, you mean https://code.launchpad.net/~ecanuto/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/bug-1060123
[11:00] <darkxst> you can make it shorter
[11:00] <everaldo> darkxst, backgounds in 16 colors don't look nice :(
[11:01] <darkxst> the blue stripes?
[11:01] <everaldo> yes
[11:01] <smartboyhw> Hey everaldo darkxst gonna watch the 24-hour-marathon tmr?
[11:02] <everaldo> smartboyhw, ?
[11:02] <smartboyhw> everaldo, this
[11:02] <smartboyhw> http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/
[11:05] <darkxst> everaldo, hopefully no one needs them then!
[11:06] <everaldo> oh, nice, I can use paypal
[11:07] <smartboyhw> everaldo, :)
[11:22] <everaldo> darkxst, any ideas for 16 color background?
[11:23] <darkxst> don't worry about it for now
[11:23] <darkxst> hopefully most hardware these days supports full colour
[11:30] <everaldo> darkxst, progress_dot_off.png must be progress_dot_on.png and progress_dot_off.png could be an empty image right?
[11:31] <everaldo> smartboyhw, looks like I will "participate" in this 24 hour-marathon ;-)
[11:32] <darkxst> progress_dot_off.png is used for the password dialog
[11:32] <darkxst> progress_dot_on.png is unused
[11:34] <smartboyhw> everaldo, lol
[11:49] <darkxst> everaldo, you can remove 16.pngs, ubuntu-logo.png and dots_on.png now
[11:49] <darkxst> https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/lp1060123
[12:00] <everaldo> darkxst, do you know how I can apply you commit to my branch and keep the commiter name and time?
[12:01] <darkxst> you merge it
[12:02] <darkxst> or even just
[12:02] <everaldo> darkxst, can you please request a merge to this: https://code.launchpad.net/~ecanuto/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/lp1060123
[12:03] <darkxst> try, bzr pull lp:~darkxst/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/lp1060123
[12:07] <everaldo> darkxst, some conflicts because I have rebranched without unneded pngs
[12:09] <everaldo> darkxst, if you can request a merge to this branch, I would like to learn how to merge a request :)
[12:13] <darkxst> you will still get conflicts
[12:14] <everaldo> darkxst, is there a way to commit using other person name?
[12:16] <jbicha> good morning
[12:16] <everaldo> jbicha, morning
[12:17] <smartboyhw> Hello jbicha
[12:17] <jbicha> bzr commit --author="Name <email>" will allow you to set the author, you'll still be the committer though
[12:18] <everaldo> ah, nice
[12:18] <everaldo> jbicha, thanks
[12:25] <darkxst> jbicha, morning
[12:25] <darkxst> build script is sorted now
[12:25] <smartboyhw> Yay
[12:32] <everaldo> darkxst, yes, build script is much better now
[12:33] <everaldo> but we still use logo.image = Image (logo_filename);
[12:33] <everaldo> but line that defines logo_filename is commented
[12:35] <darkxst> everaldo, you can comment out that line also
[12:38] <everaldo> I am just doing more cleanups
[12:44] <jbicha> speaking of logos....
[12:45] <jbicha> I wish we could add the Ubuntu logo to gdm but I couldn't ever get it to work, which is crazy since several other distros do it
[12:45] <smartboyhw> Ooh
[12:55] <everaldo> jbicha, we can check how Fedora do it
[12:55]  * everaldo downloding fedora 18 iso
[12:56]  * smartboyhw hates Fedora:P
[12:58] <everaldo> when Ubuntu release 11.04 I start to use Fedora
[12:58] <everaldo> for two months
[12:59] <everaldo> but got lots of problems with nvidia and broadcom
[12:59] <everaldo> you must use another repo but theres a delay between updates and lots of time I got my video broken
[12:59] <everaldo> also, other pieces looks broken
[13:00] <everaldo> I love their blue colors and thats all :-)
[13:00] <smartboyhw> .......
[13:00] <everaldo> also, I don't like too much the things that redhat guys are doing with nautilus and empathy
[13:01] <everaldo> I am sad with all removed features :(
[13:14] <everaldo> darkxst, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ecanuto/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/lp1060123/revision/8
[13:17] <everaldo> all logo references removed
[13:17] <darkxst> everaldo, looks fine
[13:17] <everaldo> and I think that we can also remove all progress_indicator references
[13:17] <everaldo> let me try it
[13:17] <darkxst> no
[13:17] <everaldo> no? why?
[13:17] <darkxst> they are used for the password
[13:19] <everaldo> no, they are not
[13:19] <everaldo> well, it was used by TextYOffset that really don't need to depend  progress_indicator
[13:20] <everaldo> I just remove it and everthing looks ok
[13:21] <everaldo> ah, you mean the image but I am taling about progress_indicator var
[13:42] <everaldo> darkxst, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ecanuto/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/lp1060123/revision/9
[13:42] <everaldo> if it is ok for you, I will request a merge
[13:50] <darkxst> everaldo, you just broke password
[13:57] <darkxst> or not
[13:57] <darkxst> but do make sure you test it before merging
[14:17] <everaldo> darkxst, it is working here
[14:17] <everaldo> darkxst, why you say that it is broken?
[14:22] <darkxst> everaldo, I was guessing, but its ok
[14:24] <darkxst> anyway I'm off to bed
[14:25] <everaldo> darkxst, ok, good night
[14:31] <everaldo> jbicha, #1060123 is fixed, a merge propose has been created
[14:38]  * smartboyhw is trying to get those Canonical guys to open an unoffficial distros QA Tracker
[14:39] <jbicha> smartboyhw: how many unofficial distros would participate in that?
[14:43] <smartboyhw> jbicha, mere proposal;p
[14:44] <jbicha> I mean, if it's just for Ubuntu GNOME, maybe we'll be official next cycle
[14:46] <smartboyhw> Suggestion:P
[14:46] <smartboyhw> If they ignore I don't care
[16:50] <jbicha> ricotz: I don't know if you saw https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/ibus/
[17:07] <jbicha> bad side is that I had trouble running GNOME Shell after ppa-purging that repo, ibus gsettings migration trouble or something
[18:17] <ricotz> jbicha, hi, no, havent seen that
[18:17] <ricotz> i am not familiar with ibus though
[18:29] <jbicha> we need the new ibus to fix bug 1045914
[18:31] <jbicha> or I guess we could try to hack gnome-shell to work with the quantal ibus
[18:32] <ricotz> jbicha, what about the ubuntu/debian maintainers of ibus, is there any progress to start on that
[18:32] <jbicha> for ubuntu, it will have to wait for R as there are too many rdepends
[18:33] <jbicha> I haven't approached the Debian maintainers yet (I'm not sure that ibus is packaged much on the Ubuntu side)
[18:34] <ricotz> ok, R is fine, but this needs to be tested by people actually able to use it
[18:35] <ricotz> and preferable by the original maintainers
[18:35] <ricotz> but irc there were already 1.4.x updates left out :\
[18:38] <jbicha> it seemed to work but I couldn't tell if it was better or worse than ibus 1.4
[18:38] <jbicha> we probably want it in a staging ppa though for those who really need a keyboard layout switcher
[18:40] <jbicha> unfortunately, nux is a rdepends that needs to be rebuilt with the new ibus or Unity won't run :( so it's not something I can guarantee won't break things
[18:40] <ricotz> if i get this right, updating to 1.5 will break things for non-g-s session or does it preserver compatibility
[18:40] <ricotz> ah i see
[18:41] <jbicha> it works today but nux gets updated fairly regularly (it just needs a rebuild but that will take someone paying attention)
[18:41] <ricotz> why does it need a rebuild?
[18:41] <jbicha> soname bump
[18:42] <ricotz> so there is an actual bump or is a bad abi break?
[18:42] <jbicha> and like I said earlier, reverting back to ibus didn't go well when I tried it Monday
[18:43] <ricotz> i see
[18:43] <ricotz> sorry, i need to go
[18:43] <jbicha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258630/
[21:14] <darkxst> jbicha, https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckjlp2a19bea5wh/Ubuntu%20UG%20%40%202012-10-04%2007%3A12%3A48.png    :)
[21:17]  * jbicha smiles at Ruper
[21:17] <jbicha> Rupert
[21:18] <darkxst> oh that was for the gnome release notes, screenshots
[21:21] <greg-g> heya, jbicha Have you been able to install UbuntuOne on the UbuntuGNOME? I see I have the syncdaemon running and all that now, but I can't connect the computer to U1 (ie, when I do u1sdtool --connect nothing happens)
[21:21] <darkxst> jbicha, so was that what you wanted? or a different logo
[21:21] <darkxst> ?
[21:21] <greg-g> also, again, thanks for the awesome work on this, you've re-affirmed some of my faith :)
[21:22] <jbicha> darkxst: I didn't know you were doing documentation stuff
[21:23] <darkxst> jbicha, I'm not, just helped out with the screenshots, thats all
[21:23] <jbicha> well that still counts
[21:29] <jbicha> darkxst: yeah I believe that's correct
[21:29] <jbicha> the logo guidelines are a bit confusing http://design.ubuntu.com/assets/ubuntu-logo
[21:30] <jbicha> thanks so much, I tried several times a few weeks ago without getting it to work
[21:31] <darkxst> I guess you didnt try setting it in the override file?'
[21:34] <jbicha> I tried /etc/gdm/greeter.gsettings
[21:50] <darkxst> jbicha, https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/ubuntu/quantal/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/gdm-logo/+merge/127888
[21:52] <darkxst> jbicha, ah yeh, for some reason the logo only loads when set in overrides
[21:56] <jbicha> um, I don't have that file on my computer
[21:59] <jbicha> ah, I'll just substitute /lib/plymouth/ubuntu_logo.png
[22:03] <darkxst> logo was included in the merge request (however bzr missed the install file the first time )
[22:04] <darkxst> and yeh its just copied from plymouth, since I figure there is not guarantee the ubuntu theme has to be installed
[22:07] <jbicha> I don't think we need to copy that file; it's included in plymouth which should be installed and it won't break if that file's not found
[22:09] <everaldo> darkxst, jbicha, we don't have the logo on plymouth theme anymore
[22:09] <jbicha> dpkg -S ubuntu_logo.png
[22:09] <darkxst> everaldo, that was for gdm greeter screen
[22:11] <jbicha> darkxst: on the other hand, we should have a logo for gdm-fallback too but it's a light background
[22:11] <jbicha> how about the black Ubuntu logo with orange circle of friends?
[22:11] <jbicha> I don't think that's pre-installed
[22:12] <everaldo> ah, so it is also available on package "plymouth"
[22:13] <everaldo> I removed it from "plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-logo"
[22:13] <darkxst> jbicha, black on a grey background wont really work?
[22:13] <jbicha> darkxst: I tried using the plymouth logo in fallback mode and it was white text on a light gray background
[22:14] <everaldo> is this the logo on top-left?
[22:15] <darkxst> everaldo, https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckjlp2a19bea5wh/Ubuntu%20UG%20%40%202012-10-04%2007%3A12%3A48.png
[22:15] <jbicha> no, it's a logo in the center right above the name chooser, by default there isn't a logo
[22:15] <jbicha> Fedora wanted a distro logo option
[22:16] <jbicha> I don't think GNOME design likes distro branding
[22:16] <darkxst> jbicha, we could change the background colour of fallback mode
[22:17] <everaldo> darkxst, what it the problem in fallback? do you have a screenshot?
[22:17] <jbicha> logging out for a bit...
[22:18] <darkxst> jbicha, actually can set a different logo for fallback
[22:29] <darkxst> everaldo, I think jbicha was talking about the gdm logo
[22:34] <everaldo> ah
[22:50] <darkxst> oh, it is tiny :( https://www.dropbox.com/s/tt4z91y2stbtavm/Ubuntu%20UG%20%40%202012-10-04%2008%3A49%3A00.png
[22:52] <everaldo> looks nice
[22:52] <everaldo> darkxst, whats about a blue ubuntu logo instead of orange?
[22:52] <everaldo> or black
[22:52] <darkxst> everaldo, I don't think we are allowed to change colours of the logo
[22:53] <everaldo> darkxst, here we have a complete black: http://design.ubuntu.com/assets/ubuntu-logo
[22:55] <darkxst> yeh could use that
[22:55] <darkxst> jbicha, what do you think ? all black or black w/ orange circle of friends?
[23:00] <jbicha> my instinct is for black w/ orange, can you make the logo bigger?
[23:02] <darkxst> better? https://www.dropbox.com/s/55qskqebt989i73/Ubuntu%20UG%20%40%202012-10-04%2009%3A01%3A39.png
[23:05] <jbicha> yeah, is that the same size as the non-fallback logo?
[23:06] <darkxst> hmm, its still a little smaller
[23:06] <darkxst> fallback logo gets shrunk quite a bit
[23:06] <darkxst> where as normal logo is drawn at actual size
[23:11] <darkxst> bigger? https://www.dropbox.com/s/yjbrinwy2j45wwv/Ubuntu%20UG%20%40%202012-10-04%2009%3A10%3A03.png
[23:31] <everaldo> dinner time
[23:57] <darkxst> do we want an orange circle of friends in the normal one too? https://www.dropbox.com/s/44glces0vu04fkz/Ubuntu%20UG%20%40%202012-10-04%2009%3A55%3A30.png