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smartboyhwmeeting in 3 minutes where is balloons??!?!?!?!?13:57
balloons#startmeeting ubuntu qa community14:01
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balloonsHello everyone14:01
smartboyhw\o14:01
smartboyhwHi balloons14:01
balloonsShall we take a roll call?14:01
smartboyhwrole call again:p \o14:02
phillwo/14:02
* smartboyhw has told elfy to come but....14:02
* balloons rattles head14:03
smartboyhwballoons, lol14:03
balloonswell, shall we dive in?14:03
balloons[TOPIC] Previous Actions14:03
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balloons[action] balloons to update qa.ubuntu.com theme14:04
meetingologyACTION: balloons to update qa.ubuntu.com theme14:04
balloonsAnything else?14:04
smartboyhwballoons, really still haven't solved?:P14:04
smartboyhw..14:05
smartboyhw?14:06
balloonsit's still on the todo lis14:07
balloonsit'll likely be gone for next time14:07
balloonsbeta2 was more pressing :-)14:07
smartboyhwGrrrrrrrr.....Anyway just small problem:P14:07
smartboyhw:-)14:07
balloonsI just learned how to solve it.. to be fair most of the tme it was on the list I was awaiting resolution :-)14:07
balloonsanyways14:07
balloons[TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates14:07
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smartboyhwyay14:07
balloonsThis week Unity 6.8 is landing, and there is the charity-a-thon tomorrow14:08
smartboyhw#link http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/10/preparing-for-community-charity-thon.html14:08
smartboyhwballoons, I'm coming to support you tmr around 11:00 to 15:00 UTC:P14:08
balloonsawesome14:09
balloonsat 24 hrs long, I'm assuming people will be able to find time14:09
balloonslol14:09
smartboyhwlol14:09
phillwI'll be around for as long as I'm at my computer :)14:09
smartboyhwlol14:09
balloonsnice14:09
* smartboyhw too14:09
balloonsanything else to share?14:09
smartboyhwballoons, sorry for not donating. Don't have money:P14:10
balloonsthe rest of it is straightforward.. it's crunch time for the images14:10
balloonssmartboyhw, no worries.. showing up is also a help14:10
smartboyhw:)14:10
balloonstry and get some non-std installations done if you can :-)14:10
balloonsthat was my secondary goal for the 24 hours14:10
* smartboyhw will test Ubuntu Studio that day then:P14:10
smartboyhw..14:11
balloons[TOPIC] Other Updates14:13
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smartboyhw\o14:13
balloonsI know phillw, wxl and others have all been working on the ppc iso's to try and land one for the final release of quantal14:13
balloonsit's been quite a ride with some hard to solve bugs14:14
balloonsanything else people wish to share?14:14
smartboyhwYay14:14
balloonssmartboyhw, go ahead14:14
smartboyhw\o14:14
smartboyhwOK14:14
smartboyhwA bit of report and a bit of question:P14:14
smartboyhwThe Ubuntu Studio testcase is gonna get done at 10th (I set a deadline).14:14
smartboyhwballoons, stupid question: In http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-quality-community-testing.html14:15
smartboyhw76% with red light:P er are you going to fix that?:P14:15
smartboyhw..14:16
balloonsI've done my part :-) http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/u/nskaggs.html14:17
smartboyhwOh;P14:17
smartboyhwBTW another thing: Someone remove http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ from the QA meeting page, it is clearly outdated with no 2012 logs14:17
balloonslol -- yes, it needs to be finished out14:17
smartboyhw:)14:18
smartboyhwOK I'm done14:18
smartboyhw..14:18
balloonswe're a bit behind overall: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/14:18
* smartboyhw is happy Ubuntu Studio got 92% and Lubuntu got 89% so we are not gonna be blamed:P14:19
smartboyhw..14:21
smartboyhwEr balloons nothing to add.....:P14:22
* balloons just noting14:23
balloonsThere are 11 days left in the current cycle. That means that in order to complete all the work 83.91 workitems must be completed per day.14:23
balloonsI'm sure this Friday's meeting will be interesting14:23
balloonswe should see sometype of drop14:23
smartboyhwYeah......14:23
balloonsOk, so anyone else?14:23
balloonsanything elsE?14:23
phillwwe are quietly confident that PPC will ship as both desktop & alternate, using release notes.14:23
smartboyhw*quite:P14:24
balloonsthat's good news phillw14:24
smartboyhwyay14:24
balloonsalright, if that's it, well that's it ;-) Again, I hope to see everyone tomorrow. Should be a fun time -- try and make QA part of your day14:25
smartboyhw;-)14:25
balloons#endmeeting14:25
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Oct  3 14:25:36 2012 UTC.14:25
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smartboyhwThx balloons phillw14:25
* slangasek waves15:01
jodho/15:01
smartboyhw\o15:01
ogra_foo15:01
infinityo/15:03
slangasek#startmeeting15:04
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slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round15:04
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu)15:04
slangasekjodh barry ev cjwatson infinity xnox bdmurray slangasek stokachu doko ogra stgraber15:04
jodh* bugs:15:04
jodh  * bug 1060249: Can now recreate. Trying to get more detailed stack15:04
jodh    trace.15:04
jodh  * bug 1016040: Bit of analysis on this. Still unable to recreate though.15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1060249 in debconf (Ubuntu Quantal) "frontend crashed with signal 5 in g_node_copy_deep()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106024915:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1016040 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "apt_check.py crashed with SIGSEGV in FileName()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101604015:04
jodh  * bug 1030278: Lots of work on this, but barry beat me to the post :-)15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1030278 in the python apt bindings "Quantal failed to install: ubiquity crashed in apt/progress/text.py in pulse: OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103027815:05
jodh    We both added some new tests to python-apt to avoid regressions.15:05
jodh𐤋15:05
barryjodh: just using my western tz to its full advantage :)15:05
barryhanded off most of the remaining work on the gwibber py3 port, though i will still gatekeep merge proposals.  bug 1056820.  bug 1030278.  followed up with the folks doing the twisted py3 port; looks like 13.04 availability is a possibility, but more details have been requested.  uploaded python-mode 6.0.12 to sid.  looked a bit at bug 1031882.  investigated bug 938869, but this isn't a bug in python so it needs to be fixed in the vmware15:05
barryscripts.  bug 1057886.  started looking at bug 935516 (ongoing).  investigating bug 1060489 (ongoing).  done.15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056820 in libxml2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "feedparser ftbfs in quantal, test suite failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105682015:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031882 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "precise->quantal upgrade fails, with a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103188215:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 938869 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with SIGABRT in Py_FatalError()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93886915:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1057886 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "dpkg-source regression when a patch removes all files from a directory" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105788615:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 935516 in genshi (Ubuntu Precise) "genshi version 0.6-2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93551615:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1060489 in claws-mail-extra-plugins (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to build-dep conflicts" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106048915:05
evat a webops sprint all week15:08
evbeen charming the errors.ubuntu.com infrastructure15:08
evand unbreaking the retracers (damn you dpkg -x)15:08
evalso working on moving daisy.ubuntu.com to backing to S315:08
evinstead of NFS15:08
evat the request of IS15:09
ev(done)15:09
slangasekcjohnston:15:09
slangaseker15:09
slangasekcjwatson:15:09
cjwatsonFixed various cdimage publishing bugs exposed by beta-2.15:09
cjwatsonLots of rls-q-tracking bug work, too many to list, including finally adding /etc/default/grub.d/, various i18n/l10n bugs, etc.  Still trying to sort out d-i lowmem issues.15:09
cjwatsonSponsoring various arm64 config.guess/sub fixes from Wookey.  More to come.15:09
slangasekcjohnston: have you considered a stage name15:09
cjwatsonProgressive rebuild of remaining packages in armel/main for ARMv5t.15:09
cjwatson+1 maintenance this month.  Mostly working on build fixes.  eclipse-* was a particularly exciting cluster to unstick.15:09
cjwatson.15:09
ScottKunstick is a nice euphemism.15:10
cjwatsonbarry: I happened to notice that at least some twisted.trial py3 support was upstream now15:10
infinity* Done this week:15:10
infinity  - Beta 2 released15:10
infinity  - Kernel SRU wrangling15:10
infinity  - Other SRU and AA tasks15:10
infinity  - gtkhtml4.0 transition, linux-armadaxp license review, dpkg bugfix, vmware-view and sbsigntool version bumps, etc15:10
infinity  - working on a new eglibc SRU to replace the one superseded by the last security update15:10
infinity  - (Re-)enable bootstrap archives for Colin's unbreaking of various bits15:10
infinity15:10
barrycjwatson: yep, they mentioned that was a blocker for continued work15:10
ogra_russian !15:10
slangasekev: S3> if this is done, does this mean they no longer care how much space it takes p? :)15:10
slangasekup15:10
evslangasek: hahaha15:11
evthis is for the core files15:11
evwhich at the moment get deleted15:11
evthough I suspect it'll make the argument for keeping them around easier15:11
slangasek:)15:11
xnoxslangasek: there is a setting to tab-complete nicknames based on frequency instead of pure alphabetical order.15:12
cjwatsonOh, I forgot: currently working on some build log analysis for hardening flag regressions.  Not sure how far I'll have time to get.15:12
slangasekev: so if that goes smoothly, we may want to talk about whether to do the same for ddebs.u.c15:12
xnoxslangasek: well since servercloud has nice swift mirrors backed by S3 already, it should be doable for a "normal" apt-getable archive.15:13
slangasekxnox: your turn :)15:13
xnox* rls-q-tracking:15:13
xnox - sponsor fix for bug 105635015:13
xnox - test and upload mvo's workaround for bug 1015567 and opened bug 1057367 for followup.15:13
xnox - mark bug 1046627 as invalid, because biggest_free was used instead15:13
xnox   of actually resizing.15:13
xnox - disable failing svn tests to fix FTBFS bug 1056728 (needs new15:13
xnox   upstream release packaged, to late for quantal). But doko is15:13
xnox   working on a better/proper fix git-svn and re-enable test-suites.15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056350 in BzrTools "build failure on quantal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105635015:13
xnox - Ubiquity: Change calculate_reuse_option logic to allow upgrading development15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1015567 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101556715:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1057367 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "please upgrade status database to remove mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable packages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105736715:13
xnox   releases to final/newer. bug 105056215:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1046627 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Install Ubuntu XX.XX alongside SYSTEM YY screen missing" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104662715:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056728 in git (Ubuntu Quantal) "git-svn needs an update for subversion 1.7.x (build-time test suite failure)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105672815:13
xnox - partman-crypto: Move unsafe_swap checks from commit.d to check.d bug 105670715:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1050562 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Reuse recipe (in-place upgrade/reinstall) isn't given as an option" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105056215:13
xnox - Fix reuse options (were not working) in partman-auto bug 105056215:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056707 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) ""Unsafe swap space detected" dialog displayed too late if swap is created after an encrypted partition and makes manual partitioner unusable" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105670715:13
xnox* ubiquity adv-lvm:15:13
xnox - almost done, going through all the different paths of vg/lv15:13
xnox   manipulation. merge proposal will come soon.15:13
xnox* blocked on combination of orca / at-spi / gtk / ubiquity-dm being15:13
xnox  broken. See bug 105630015:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056300 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "orca quits reading after the welcome screen in ubiquity" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105630015:14
xnox* Off to see my parents Fri-Mon, expecting limited internet15:14
xnox  connectivity. (GMT+2)15:14
xnox</done>15:14
bdmurraybug triage of update-manager / ubuntu-release-upgrader bugs15:14
bdmurraytested bugs 1056895, 1059172, 105810215:14
bdmurrayubuntu-release-upgrader upload fixing apport and apt-clone attachments15:14
bdmurrayubuntu-release-upgrader uploads fixing bugs 1039484, 1045579, 1059403, 106035315:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1058102 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "The strings in "ubuntu-release-upgrader" is not translated in UI" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105810215:14
bdmurrayapport modification to include python env variables15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1059172 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashes when displaying error dialog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105917215:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056895 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubiquity apport hook crashes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105689515:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1039484 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "Accents in sources.list breaks do-release-upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103948415:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1060353 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "DistUpgradeApport.py causes an apport assertion error" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106035315:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1045579 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Precise) "software-properties-gtk makes a change resulting in a conf file prompt on upgrade that's unnecessary" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104557915:15
bdmurraydiscovered an issue with DistUpgradeApport.py and assertion errors due to / in key names for attachments15:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1059403 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "dist-upgrade.py returns 1 due to /var/log/dist-upgrade/* not found in P2Q server upgrades" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105940315:15
bdmurrayreported bug 1060353 regarding DistUpgradeApport.py and wrote a testcase for it15:15
bdmurraytested plymouth bug 105646815:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056468 in linux (Ubuntu) "monitor inactive during plymouth animation (radeon, fallback to /dev/fb0)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105646815:15
bdmurray✔ done ✔15:15
slangasek * pam-xdg-support: landed, has been seeded, ubuntu-meta upload needed15:18
slangasek * ironed out final details on SB signing15:18
slangasek * fielded some new bugs after the asynchronous mountall upload15:18
slangasek  * bug #105947115:18
slangasek  * bug #106029615:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1059471 in mountall (Ubuntu) "2.41 fails to mount root partition" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105947115:18
slangasek * SB shim: still in progress, should be uploaded today15:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1060296 in mountall (Ubuntu) "'df /' reports Filesystem '-'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106029615:18
slangasek(then it gets submitted to MS for signing)15:18
slangasek(done)15:19
slangasekstokachu: your turn15:19
stokachubug 977959 - needs sponsor for precise15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977959 in libgnome (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libgnome to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97795915:19
stokachubug 1036834 - needs sponsor15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1036834 in gdb (Ubuntu Precise) "gdb should be marked "Multi-arch: allowed"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103683415:19
stokachubug 1013211 - needs FFe or needs to be pushed back to updates15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1013211 in libgnomecanvas (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Please transition libgnomecanvas to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101321115:19
stokachubug 683640 - needs sponsor for precise15:19
stokachubug 1053306 - needs sponsor for precise15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 683640 in lsb (Ubuntu Precise) "status_of_proc is returning incorrect error code" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68364015:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1053306 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu Precise) "iscsiadm hangs in recvmsg()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105330615:19
stokachubug 932860 - building and testing as of now15:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 932860 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu Precise) "Broken (or missing) multiarch support" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93286015:19
cjwatsonslangasek: Do you know how long the signing is expected to take?15:19
slangaseksomeone said last week they were going to look at those multiarch sponsorship bugs, was it doko?15:19
stokachudone15:20
slangasek(who is not here due to German holiday)15:20
xnoxstokachu: are all of those fix released in quantal?15:20
ogra_done:15:20
ogra_ * fixed cdrom-detect bug (bug 1028905)15:20
ogra_ * input issues for d-i were fixed (thanks paolo for adding the udeb to omap3)15:20
ogra_ * worked on an nvidia-tegra driver update, sadly the upstream release is broken (no versions in SONAMES), waiting on a fix15:20
ogra_   from nvidia and pondering to upload a driver without GLES support for better SRUability15:20
ogra_ * got dragged into a new internal project, waiting for HW15:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028905 in debian-installer-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "cdrom-detect in quantal omap4 hangs trying to look for install media on an extended partition" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102890515:20
ogra_ * thanks stgraber for taking over bug 98427615:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98427615:20
ogra_ * fixed upgrade issue with software-properties-gtk15:20
ogra_todo:15:20
ogra_ * get some ideas for arm specific blueprints15:20
ogra_ * fix flash-kernel ability to manually force a kernel version for manual downgrades (bug 1056206)15:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1056206 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "3.0~rc.4ubuntu23: cannot flash an old (previous Q) kernel" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105620615:20
ogra_ * finish wikipages for the release15:20
ogra_..15:20
stokachuxnox: 977959,683640,1053306 or in qu antal15:21
stokachuare*15:21
stgraber - ISO tracker15:21
xnoxstokachu: ok.15:21
stgraber   - Fixed a bug in the time range filter, got IS to deploy in production.15:21
stgraber - Container15:21
stgraber   - Upstream work, reviewing patches, maintaining staging branch. Starting cherry-pick of fixes for 0.8 upstream release.15:21
stgraber   - Blogged about the new API: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/09/28/introducing-the-python-lxc-api/15:21
stgraber   - Helped utlemming setup a script similar to post-qa but for the cloud images15:21
stgraber - Release15:21
stgraber   - Some beta 2 work15:21
stgraber   - Quite a bunch of queue reviews15:21
stgraber   - Some FFe/UIFe reviews15:21
stgraber - Networking15:21
stgraber   - Some more thoughts on getting NM to talk to unbound, looked at the API, may try to write a plugin later.15:21
stgraber   - Fixed madwimax's broken dhclient handling in quantal and precise (was messing with resolvconf)15:21
stgraber - Installer15:21
stgraber   - UIFe for the slideshow, reviewed the changes, re-generate the templates, imported the new translations and uploaded15:22
stgraber   - Fixed bug 89878715:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898787 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "(k|l|x)ubuntu 11.10 failed to install with error in install_misc.py assert cache._depcache.broken_count == 0" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89878715:22
stgraber   - Went through the high priority casper bugs and fixed a bunch of them: bug 946406, bug 984276, bug 423616, bug 476208 and bug 74788815:22
stgraber   - Started preparing the next set of casper fixes, planning another upload later today.15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 946406 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "suspect race condition Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94640615:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98427615:22
stgraber   - Briefly discussed foundations-q-autocreate-preseed with Colin, will try to get some basic implementation during my trip tomorrow15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 423616 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper boot doesn't work with some boot options" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42361615:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 476208 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper booting from nfsroot doesn't respect nfs filesystem options correctly" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47620815:22
stgraber 15:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 747888 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper script 25configure_init clobbers 22serialtty, serial console nearly unusable" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74788815:22
stgraber - Travel/Schedule15:22
stgraber   - I'll be at the LTSP hackfest tomorrow and Friday, available on IRC when not traveling.15:22
stgraber   - Monday is a bank holiday.15:22
stgraber   - I'll be off Thursday and Friday next week, traveling to Europe, will then work on European timezone until UDS.15:22
stgraber(DONE)15:22
ogra_stgraber, hug everyone from me15:22
stgraberogra_: will do15:22
ogra_and send greetings to speedbump15:22
ogra_:)15:22
slangasekogra_: when is your hw for the "internal project" due to arrive?15:23
cjwatsonstgraber: Are you fixing bug 1058179 in addition to having diagnosed it, or should I follow up on that?15:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1058179 in ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn (Ubuntu Quantal) "Incomplete language install (language-pack-zh-hans: 1:12.10+20120920)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105817915:23
ogra_slangasek, it said 3-5 workdays15:23
slangasekphooey, that's a long time15:23
xnoxstokachu: make sure ubuntu-sponsors are subscribed, those three 977959,683640,1053306 don't and hence are not in the http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ and hence fell out of my radar of "easy sponsorship tasks" I try to do in evenings =)15:23
ogra_slangasek, though its not clear yet that i ordered the right thing :P15:23
ogra_seemingly there is some confusion ... i might end up with both :)15:23
slangasekyou didn't request the SCHNELL SCHNELL shipping option?15:23
ogra_lol15:24
evslangasek: random stats: we're currently using 1.2 TB with 2.2 TB free. We're effectively doubling that (going from three nodes in Cassandra to six).15:24
stgrabercjwatson: I'll see how fixable it's, but I'm expecting a similar mess as 12.04.1 where the image gets really big really quickly15:24
ogra_no offer for that15:24
stokachuxnox: ? ive been assigning ubuntu-sru15:24
slangasekev: that's apropos the crash pruning?15:24
stokachuthey are notified of all changes is that not correct?15:24
stgrabercjwatson: I assigned it to me now so I don't forget15:24
infinitystokachu: ubuntu-sru doesn't sponsor things, just review/accept uploads.15:24
infinitystokachu: (Well, we *can* sponsor things, but that's not the point of the group)15:25
stokachuah15:25
evslangasek: that's the amount of space in use on each node15:25
ev(we have replication set to 3)15:25
stokachulol so what group should I be adding?15:25
stokachujust ubuntu-sponsors?15:25
evwe don't save the core files right now15:25
evonce they're retraced, they're deleted15:25
cjwatsonstgraber: I was hoping that size would be less of an issue now15:25
slangasekev: ok - so how fast are we burning through the space at this point? :) Does it grow linearly?15:25
cjwatsonstgraber: But we should certainly establish that the things QA is testing for agree with what the owners of this image think they want to offer :-)15:25
cjwatsonstokachu: Just ubuntu-sponsors, yes15:26
stokachuahhh no wonder15:26
infinitystokachu: ubuntu-sponsors, if you need a sponsor, ubuntu-sru as well, if it's an SRU bug, though the latter often happens automagically when we run tools to accept things from the queue anyway.15:26
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs15:26
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slangasek[LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:26
cjwatsonstokachu: Right, it doesn't hurt to subscribe ubuntu-sru as well but it basically doesn't help15:26
xnoxstokachu: you need both for SRU: debdiff -> unapproved queue -> accepted in -proposed. Sponsors for the first hop, SRU team for the second hop.15:26
stokachuah ok awesome, makes sense now15:26
evslangasek: doubling every six months15:26
stgrabercjwatson: well, IIRC if we actually include everything, we're talking about almost 100MB (all chinese langpacks + dictionaries + ibus tables + the same for english)15:26
stokachuexcellent, makes sense now thanks15:27
slangasekev: ew?15:27
stokachuill get them assigned to the sponsors queue15:27
bdmurraysubscribed not assigned15:27
stgrabercjwatson: anyway, I'll take a look after the meeting, will fix the package and see how big the difference will be15:27
slangasekI thought I was being conservative with the suggestion of linear growth :P15:27
xnoxstokachu: can't we afford that in chinese-quantal image at the expense of non-chinese langpacks?15:28
cjwatsonYou mean stgraber not stokachu15:28
xnoxyes.15:28
slangasekso our targeted bug count is certainly looking better this week15:28
cjwatsonAnd I don't think langpacks come close to offsetting additional language *support*15:28
slangasekbut as cjwatson pointed out, it's still high15:28
xnoxstgraber: can't we afford that in chinese-quantal image at the expense of non-chinese langpacks?15:28
slangaseklooks like we're down from ~60 to 4115:29
cjwatson20 priority High15:29
cjwatsonAnyone know what's happening with these apt gpg bugs?15:29
stgraberxnox: there's no easy way to remove langpacks as the image is built with ubuntu-defaults-builder, not our usual tools and ultimately the problem is that we can't remove the english langpack as various bits depend on en_US.UTF-8 being around (instead of just using C.UTF-8)15:29
slangasekcjwatson: I've seen activity on them from mvo15:29
cjwatsonCan we assign him to them?15:30
* xnox wants to target some bugs to r-series, and if fixed in r, sru into quantal.15:30
xnox(the acient onces)15:30
stokachuxnox: how often does this report get generated15:30
evslangasek: :) iz webops problem15:30
infinityslangasek: The eglibc one's being done today.15:30
xnoxcjwatson: about apt-gpg bugs, it wasn't clear to me if it's all fix-released or partitially solved. since there were security uploads done.15:30
bdmurraystokachu: the rls-q-tracking one is hourly15:31
slangasekcjwatson: bug #1016643 has had SRUs for software-properties in friends; maybe the apt task is no longer relevant?15:31
cjwatsonxnox: If you're planning on SRUing things into quantal post-release, please set the milestone to quantal-updates so that that's immediately clear from the report15:31
xnoxstokachu: Last updated at: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:09:36 -0000. My guess is every hour?15:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1016643 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "add-apt-repository downloads gpg key in an insecure fashion" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101664315:31
cjwatsonslangasek: Indeed, I don't know15:31
stokachuok cool thanks15:31
cjwatsonAnd bug 1013681 has been stagnant for a while15:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1013681 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "make apt-key net-update secure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101368115:31
slangasekbdmurray: hmm, why did we agree to be responsible for fontconfig? :)15:31
xnoxslangasek: I heard Laney likes fontconfig a lot =)15:31
slangasekcjwatson: so 1013681 doesn't seem tied to the release, I'm going to -notfixing it15:32
bdmurrayslangasek: having it appear in the spreadsheet doesn't mean agree ;-)15:32
infinityslangasek: but #1008777 may or may not be a bug/misfeature, but it almost certainly doesn't need to be targetted and tracked as special.15:32
cjwatsonslangasek: sounds good to me15:32
cjwatsonI would love the report to notice that bug 1053770 is assigned to James Page and maybe that ought to override its own idea of which team it belongs to15:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1053770 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-server install takes up too much space" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105377015:33
slangasekbdmurray: can you bump that over to desktop in the spreadsheet?15:33
bdmurrayslangasek: sure15:33
bdmurraycjwatson: noted regarding the report15:34
cjwatsonOf course, you win some you lose some, since we'd gain at least one bug from elsewhere that way15:34
slangasekinfinity: 1008777> undecided+incomplete, that's not really one we're worrying about as-is (it was clearly targeted by the community, not through the rls-q-incoming queue)15:34
bdmurrayslangasek: it was targetted by vanhoof15:35
cjwatsonYeah, I'm basically ignoring stuff from Medium on down for the purposes of worrying about the count15:35
slangasekbug #1026778 filled me with maintainer-script-induced rage; I think we should untarget it15:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1026778 in dictionaries-common (Ubuntu Quantal) "Package does not upgrade cleanly from precise" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102677815:36
cjwatsonSo as far as I'm concerned the current report says we have 20 RC bugs15:36
slangasekbdmurray: right, but I don't think he was meaning to ask us to fix it15:36
cjwatsonslangasek: Agreed, at least pending the information requested some weeks ago15:36
bdmurrayslangasek: oh, so if he was doing it right he would have tagged it?15:37
slangasekbdmurray: yeah15:37
slangasekI think he was targeting it for his /own/ team to work on :)15:37
xnoxjodh: bug 740390 is interesting, but to be solved not in upstart package?! But still interesting bug.15:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 740390 in dbus (Ubuntu Quantal) "libdbus-1-3 upgrade does not respawn init, resulting in unclean shutdown" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74039015:37
cjwatsonxnox: Yes, until stateful-reexec lands, the handful of libraries that upstart itself uses need to do this15:38
slangasekuntargeting 1017001; still a problem, but only a trickle of bug reports and there's no reason to expect problems here for precise->quantal15:38
xnoxcjwatson: ok. so I got it right that stateful reexec solves this generically.15:38
cjwatsonjodh: libnih* has the same problem, FWIW15:38
slangasekcjwatson: last comment on 1013681 has you mentioning sudo access on pepo, which we have back now... should we take the server side of that on, or leave it to webops?15:39
jodhcjwatson: ta - I'll take a look.15:39
xnoxcjwatson: 20 - 2 incomplete = 18 ;-)15:40
cjwatsonslangasek: We should probably take it, but I have a vague memory that it required master key access15:40
cjwatsonWhich puts it past the 12.10 timeframe anyway15:40
slangasekok15:40
* jodh wonders if we need a dh_reexecinit ?15:41
slangasekno15:41
cjwatsonThere are only a handful of libraries here15:41
cjwatsonNo need to invent new infrastructure for them15:41
slangasekwe need stateful re-exec, and a quick fix for the 4 library packages affected15:41
cjwatson3, since libc has handled this for years15:42
slangasekyep15:42
cjwatsonSo one-liner in three postinsts, move on15:43
* slangasek nods15:43
stgrabercjwatson: turns out I forgot to push the changes we SRUed at the last minute for 12.04.1 to quantal, so I'm just going to bring the two ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn back in sync which should fix the bug in the process15:44
cjwatsonstgraber: Ah, OK, great15:44
* xnox \0/15:44
slangasekso, having turfed 1026778 I guess I'll take another one15:45
cjwatsonIn fact I see that Marc has done libdbus-1-3 in -proposed15:45
cjwatsonWhich I'll copy to quantal nowish15:45
cjwatsonSo it's just libnih to fix15:45
slangasekmaybe bug #1051110 unless someone else wants to look at that one15:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1051110 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "ucf debconf prompt lands in hidden terminal instead of using gnome frontend" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105111015:45
bdmurrayslangasek: I'm interested in that one15:45
slangasekbdmurray: interested in taking it, or in having me resolve it? :)15:46
bdmurrayslangasek: having a go at it ;-)15:46
slangasekbdmurray: ok, be my guest!15:47
barryone suggestion, though probably everyone already does this.  if you're looking at a bug, assign it to yourself so we don't step on each others toes.  you can always unassign it if you punt15:47
xnoxslangasek: bdmurray: well I comment on it, with potential duplicates =) it's not new ;-)15:47
slangasekxnox: it's new behavior here for me15:47
slangasekxnox: the bug I'm reporting is *not* about the terminal not auto-expanding; it's about the wrong debconf frontend being used here15:48
bdmurraybug 1052605 will fall off the next time the report is created15:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1052605 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "ERROR:root:getListFromFile: no '/usr/share/update-manager/removal_blacklist.cfg' found: exception during Precise to Quantal upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105260515:48
cjwatsonYeah, that was due to collisions in the queue I believe.  Thanks for cleaning that up.15:49
bdmurrayOh and bug 1058102 will get added15:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1058102 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "The strings in "ubuntu-release-upgrader" is not translated in UI" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105810215:50
xnoxslangasek: I see the distinction now. But surely you'd never need terminal to auto-expand if all questions correctly used the GUI debconf frontend.15:50
infinityxnox: You're assuming all questions are debconf. :P15:51
slangasekxnox: the auto-expanding is still needed in case of bugs15:51
cjwatsonIndeed.  Consider conffile prompts.15:51
slangasekconffile prompts are also proxied by update-manager to the gui :)15:52
* cjwatson stands corrected15:52
slangasekanyway, I think we've devoured that bug list adequately for today15:52
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:52
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slangasekAnything else?15:52
barrymonday is a usa holiday but i'll probably swap it and work15:53
infinityCanadia too, and I think I'll take it. :P15:53
ogra_pfft15:53
bdmurrayI'm swapping it also15:53
ogra_holidays15:53
* xnox booked a holiday15:53
xnoxI can see how monday will not go wrong.15:54
slangasekI'll be off Monday15:55
slangasekso enjoy :)15:55
slangasek#endmeeting15:55
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slangasekthanks everyone!15:55
barrythanks!15:55
ogra_thanks !15:55
jodhta15:55
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stgraberthanks!15:55
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