=== mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === wet-chan is now known as wet === yofel_ is now known as yofel === smartboyhw is now known as nemesis-project === nemesis-project is now known as smartboyhw [13:57] meeting in 3 minutes where is balloons??!?!?!?!? [14:01] #startmeeting ubuntu qa community [14:01] Meeting started Wed Oct 3 14:01:29 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 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[14:03] [TOPIC] Previous Actions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: Previous Actions [14:04] [action] balloons to update qa.ubuntu.com theme [14:04] ACTION: balloons to update qa.ubuntu.com theme [14:04] Anything else? [14:04] balloons, really still haven't solved?:P [14:05] .. [14:06] ? [14:07] it's still on the todo lis [14:07] it'll likely be gone for next time [14:07] beta2 was more pressing :-) [14:07] Grrrrrrrr.....Anyway just small problem:P [14:07] :-) [14:07] I just learned how to solve it.. to be fair most of the tme it was on the list I was awaiting resolution :-) [14:07] anyways [14:07] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Updates [14:07] yay [14:08] This week Unity 6.8 is landing, and there is the charity-a-thon tomorrow [14:08] #link http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/10/preparing-for-community-charity-thon.html [14:08] balloons, I'm coming to support you tmr around 11:00 to 15:00 UTC:P [14:09] awesome [14:09] at 24 hrs long, I'm assuming people will be able to find time [14:09] lol [14:09] lol [14:09] I'll be around for as long as I'm at my computer :) [14:09] lol [14:09] nice [14:09] * smartboyhw too [14:09] anything else to share? [14:10] balloons, sorry for not donating. Don't have money:P [14:10] the rest of it is straightforward.. it's crunch time for the images [14:10] smartboyhw, no worries.. showing up is also a help [14:10] :) [14:10] try and get some non-std installations done if you can :-) [14:10] that was my secondary goal for the 24 hours [14:10] * smartboyhw will test Ubuntu Studio that day then:P [14:11] .. [14:13] [TOPIC] Other Updates === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu qa community Meeting | Current topic: Other Updates [14:13] \o [14:13] I know phillw, wxl and others have all been working on the ppc iso's to try and land one for the final release of quantal [14:14] it's been quite a ride with some hard to solve bugs [14:14] anything else people wish to share? [14:14] Yay [14:14] smartboyhw, go ahead [14:14] \o [14:14] OK [14:14] A bit of report and a bit of question:P [14:14] The Ubuntu Studio testcase is gonna get done at 10th (I set a deadline). [14:15] balloons, stupid question: In http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-quality-community-testing.html [14:15] 76% with red light:P er are you going to fix that?:P [14:16] .. [14:17] I've done my part :-) http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/u/nskaggs.html [14:17] Oh;P [14:17] BTW another thing: Someone remove http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ from the QA meeting page, it is clearly outdated with no 2012 logs [14:17] lol -- yes, it needs to be finished out [14:18] :) [14:18] OK I'm done [14:18] .. [14:18] we're a bit behind overall: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ [14:19] * smartboyhw is happy Ubuntu Studio got 92% and Lubuntu got 89% so we are not gonna be blamed:P [14:21] .. [14:22] Er balloons nothing to add.....:P [14:23] * balloons just noting [14:23] There are 11 days left in the current cycle. That means that in order to complete all the work 83.91 workitems must be completed per day. [14:23] I'm sure this Friday's meeting will be interesting [14:23] we should see sometype of drop [14:23] Yeah...... [14:23] Ok, so anyone else? [14:23] anything elsE? [14:23] we are quietly confident that PPC will ship as both desktop & alternate, using release notes. [14:24] *quite:P [14:24] that's good news phillw [14:24] yay [14:25] alright, if that's it, well that's it ;-) Again, I hope to see everyone tomorrow. Should be a fun time -- try and make QA part of your day [14:25] ;-) [14:25] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:25] Meeting ended Wed Oct 3 14:25:36 2012 UTC. [14:25] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-03-14.01.moin.txt [14:25] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-03-14.01.html [14:25] Thx balloons phillw [15:01] * slangasek waves [15:01] o/ [15:01] \o [15:01] foo [15:03] o/ [15:04] #startmeeting [15:04] Meeting started Wed Oct 3 15:04:11 2012 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:04] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:04] [TOPIC] lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round [15:04] $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu) [15:04] jodh barry ev cjwatson infinity xnox bdmurray slangasek stokachu doko ogra stgraber [15:04] * bugs: [15:04] * bug 1060249: Can now recreate. Trying to get more detailed stack [15:04] trace. [15:04] * bug 1016040: Bit of analysis on this. Still unable to recreate though. [15:04] Launchpad bug 1060249 in debconf (Ubuntu Quantal) "frontend crashed with signal 5 in g_node_copy_deep()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060249 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1016040 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "apt_check.py crashed with SIGSEGV in FileName()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016040 [15:04] * bug 1030278: Lots of work on this, but barry beat me to the post :-) [15:05] Launchpad bug 1030278 in the python apt bindings "Quantal failed to install: ubiquity crashed in apt/progress/text.py in pulse: OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1030278 [15:05] We both added some new tests to python-apt to avoid regressions. [15:05] 𐤋 [15:05] jodh: just using my western tz to its full advantage :) [15:05] handed off most of the remaining work on the gwibber py3 port, though i will still gatekeep merge proposals. bug 1056820. bug 1030278. followed up with the folks doing the twisted py3 port; looks like 13.04 availability is a possibility, but more details have been requested. uploaded python-mode 6.0.12 to sid. looked a bit at bug 1031882. investigated bug 938869, but this isn't a bug in python so it needs to be fixed in the vmware [15:05] scripts. bug 1057886. started looking at bug 935516 (ongoing). investigating bug 1060489 (ongoing). done. [15:05] Launchpad bug 1056820 in libxml2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "feedparser ftbfs in quantal, test suite failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056820 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1031882 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "precise->quantal upgrade fails, with a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031882 [15:05] Launchpad bug 938869 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with SIGABRT in Py_FatalError()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938869 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1057886 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "dpkg-source regression when a patch removes all files from a directory" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057886 [15:05] Launchpad bug 935516 in genshi (Ubuntu Precise) "genshi version 0.6-2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935516 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1060489 in claws-mail-extra-plugins (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to build-dep conflicts" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060489 [15:08] at a webops sprint all week [15:08] been charming the errors.ubuntu.com infrastructure [15:08] and unbreaking the retracers (damn you dpkg -x) [15:08] also working on moving daisy.ubuntu.com to backing to S3 [15:08] instead of NFS [15:09] at the request of IS [15:09] (done) [15:09] cjohnston: [15:09] er [15:09] cjwatson: [15:09] Fixed various cdimage publishing bugs exposed by beta-2. [15:09] Lots of rls-q-tracking bug work, too many to list, including finally adding /etc/default/grub.d/, various i18n/l10n bugs, etc. Still trying to sort out d-i lowmem issues. [15:09] Sponsoring various arm64 config.guess/sub fixes from Wookey. More to come. [15:09] cjohnston: have you considered a stage name [15:09] Progressive rebuild of remaining packages in armel/main for ARMv5t. [15:09] +1 maintenance this month. Mostly working on build fixes. eclipse-* was a particularly exciting cluster to unstick. [15:09] . [15:10] unstick is a nice euphemism. [15:10] barry: I happened to notice that at least some twisted.trial py3 support was upstream now [15:10] * Done this week: [15:10] - Beta 2 released [15:10] - Kernel SRU wrangling [15:10] - Other SRU and AA tasks [15:10] - gtkhtml4.0 transition, linux-armadaxp license review, dpkg bugfix, vmware-view and sbsigntool version bumps, etc [15:10] - working on a new eglibc SRU to replace the one superseded by the last security update [15:10] - (Re-)enable bootstrap archives for Colin's unbreaking of various bits [15:10] ☭ [15:10] cjwatson: yep, they mentioned that was a blocker for continued work [15:10] russian ! [15:10] ev: S3> if this is done, does this mean they no longer care how much space it takes p? :) [15:10] up [15:11] slangasek: hahaha [15:11] this is for the core files [15:11] which at the moment get deleted [15:11] though I suspect it'll make the argument for keeping them around easier [15:11] :) [15:12] slangasek: there is a setting to tab-complete nicknames based on frequency instead of pure alphabetical order. [15:12] Oh, I forgot: currently working on some build log analysis for hardening flag regressions. Not sure how far I'll have time to get. [15:12] ev: so if that goes smoothly, we may want to talk about whether to do the same for ddebs.u.c [15:13] slangasek: well since servercloud has nice swift mirrors backed by S3 already, it should be doable for a "normal" apt-getable archive. [15:13] xnox: your turn :) [15:13] * rls-q-tracking: [15:13] - sponsor fix for bug 1056350 [15:13] - test and upload mvo's workaround for bug 1015567 and opened bug 1057367 for followup. [15:13] - mark bug 1046627 as invalid, because biggest_free was used instead [15:13] of actually resizing. [15:13] - disable failing svn tests to fix FTBFS bug 1056728 (needs new [15:13] upstream release packaged, to late for quantal). But doko is [15:13] working on a better/proper fix git-svn and re-enable test-suites. [15:13] Launchpad bug 1056350 in BzrTools "build failure on quantal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056350 [15:13] - Ubiquity: Change calculate_reuse_option logic to allow upgrading development [15:13] Launchpad bug 1015567 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1015567 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1057367 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "please upgrade status database to remove mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable packages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057367 [15:13] releases to final/newer. bug 1050562 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1046627 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Install Ubuntu XX.XX alongside SYSTEM YY screen missing" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046627 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1056728 in git (Ubuntu Quantal) "git-svn needs an update for subversion 1.7.x (build-time test suite failure)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056728 [15:13] - partman-crypto: Move unsafe_swap checks from commit.d to check.d bug 1056707 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1050562 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Reuse recipe (in-place upgrade/reinstall) isn't given as an option" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1050562 [15:13] - Fix reuse options (were not working) in partman-auto bug 1050562 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1056707 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) ""Unsafe swap space detected" dialog displayed too late if swap is created after an encrypted partition and makes manual partitioner unusable" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056707 [15:13] * ubiquity adv-lvm: [15:13] - almost done, going through all the different paths of vg/lv [15:13] manipulation. merge proposal will come soon. [15:13] * blocked on combination of orca / at-spi / gtk / ubiquity-dm being [15:13] broken. See bug 1056300 [15:14] Launchpad bug 1056300 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "orca quits reading after the welcome screen in ubiquity" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056300 [15:14] * Off to see my parents Fri-Mon, expecting limited internet [15:14] connectivity. (GMT+2) [15:14] [15:14] bug triage of update-manager / ubuntu-release-upgrader bugs [15:14] tested bugs 1056895, 1059172, 1058102 [15:14] ubuntu-release-upgrader upload fixing apport and apt-clone attachments [15:14] ubuntu-release-upgrader uploads fixing bugs 1039484, 1045579, 1059403, 1060353 [15:14] Launchpad bug 1058102 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "The strings in "ubuntu-release-upgrader" is not translated in UI" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058102 [15:14] apport modification to include python env variables [15:15] Launchpad bug 1059172 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashes when displaying error dialog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059172 [15:15] Launchpad bug 1056895 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubiquity apport hook crashes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056895 [15:15] Launchpad bug 1039484 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "Accents in sources.list breaks do-release-upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039484 [15:15] Launchpad bug 1060353 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "DistUpgradeApport.py causes an apport assertion error" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060353 [15:15] Launchpad bug 1045579 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Precise) "software-properties-gtk makes a change resulting in a conf file prompt on upgrade that's unnecessary" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045579 [15:15] discovered an issue with DistUpgradeApport.py and assertion errors due to / in key names for attachments [15:15] Launchpad bug 1059403 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "dist-upgrade.py returns 1 due to /var/log/dist-upgrade/* not found in P2Q server upgrades" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059403 [15:15] reported bug 1060353 regarding DistUpgradeApport.py and wrote a testcase for it [15:15] tested plymouth bug 1056468 [15:15] Launchpad bug 1056468 in linux (Ubuntu) "monitor inactive during plymouth animation (radeon, fallback to /dev/fb0)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056468 [15:15] ✔ done ✔ [15:18] * pam-xdg-support: landed, has been seeded, ubuntu-meta upload needed [15:18] * ironed out final details on SB signing [15:18] * fielded some new bugs after the asynchronous mountall upload [15:18] * bug #1059471 [15:18] * bug #1060296 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1059471 in mountall (Ubuntu) "2.41 fails to mount root partition" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059471 [15:18] * SB shim: still in progress, should be uploaded today [15:18] Launchpad bug 1060296 in mountall (Ubuntu) "'df /' reports Filesystem '-'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060296 [15:18] (then it gets submitted to MS for signing) [15:19] (done) [15:19] stokachu: your turn [15:19] bug 977959 - needs sponsor for precise [15:19] Launchpad bug 977959 in libgnome (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libgnome to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977959 [15:19] bug 1036834 - needs sponsor [15:19] Launchpad bug 1036834 in gdb (Ubuntu Precise) "gdb should be marked "Multi-arch: allowed"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036834 [15:19] bug 1013211 - needs FFe or needs to be pushed back to updates [15:19] Launchpad bug 1013211 in libgnomecanvas (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Please transition libgnomecanvas to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013211 [15:19] bug 683640 - needs sponsor for precise [15:19] bug 1053306 - needs sponsor for precise [15:19] Launchpad bug 683640 in lsb (Ubuntu Precise) "status_of_proc is returning incorrect error code" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683640 [15:19] Launchpad bug 1053306 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu Precise) "iscsiadm hangs in recvmsg()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053306 [15:19] bug 932860 - building and testing as of now [15:19] Launchpad bug 932860 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu Precise) "Broken (or missing) multiarch support" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932860 [15:19] slangasek: Do you know how long the signing is expected to take? [15:19] someone said last week they were going to look at those multiarch sponsorship bugs, was it doko? [15:20] done [15:20] (who is not here due to German holiday) [15:20] stokachu: are all of those fix released in quantal? [15:20] done: [15:20] * fixed cdrom-detect bug (bug 1028905) [15:20] * input issues for d-i were fixed (thanks paolo for adding the udeb to omap3) [15:20] * worked on an nvidia-tegra driver update, sadly the upstream release is broken (no versions in SONAMES), waiting on a fix [15:20] from nvidia and pondering to upload a driver without GLES support for better SRUability [15:20] * got dragged into a new internal project, waiting for HW [15:20] Launchpad bug 1028905 in debian-installer-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "cdrom-detect in quantal omap4 hangs trying to look for install media on an extended partition" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028905 [15:20] * thanks stgraber for taking over bug 984276 [15:20] Launchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276 [15:20] * fixed upgrade issue with software-properties-gtk [15:20] todo: [15:20] * get some ideas for arm specific blueprints [15:20] * fix flash-kernel ability to manually force a kernel version for manual downgrades (bug 1056206) [15:20] Launchpad bug 1056206 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "3.0~rc.4ubuntu23: cannot flash an old (previous Q) kernel" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056206 [15:20] * finish wikipages for the release [15:20] .. [15:21] xnox: 977959,683640,1053306 or in qu antal [15:21] are* [15:21] - ISO tracker [15:21] stokachu: ok. [15:21] - Fixed a bug in the time range filter, got IS to deploy in production. [15:21] - Container [15:21] - Upstream work, reviewing patches, maintaining staging branch. Starting cherry-pick of fixes for 0.8 upstream release. [15:21] - Blogged about the new API: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/09/28/introducing-the-python-lxc-api/ [15:21] - Helped utlemming setup a script similar to post-qa but for the cloud images [15:21] - Release [15:21] - Some beta 2 work [15:21] - Quite a bunch of queue reviews [15:21] - Some FFe/UIFe reviews [15:21] - Networking [15:21] - Some more thoughts on getting NM to talk to unbound, looked at the API, may try to write a plugin later. [15:21] - Fixed madwimax's broken dhclient handling in quantal and precise (was messing with resolvconf) [15:21] - Installer [15:22] - UIFe for the slideshow, reviewed the changes, re-generate the templates, imported the new translations and uploaded [15:22] - Fixed bug 898787 [15:22] Launchpad bug 898787 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "(k|l|x)ubuntu 11.10 failed to install with error in install_misc.py assert cache._depcache.broken_count == 0" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898787 [15:22] - Went through the high priority casper bugs and fixed a bunch of them: bug 946406, bug 984276, bug 423616, bug 476208 and bug 747888 [15:22] - Started preparing the next set of casper fixes, planning another upload later today. [15:22] Launchpad bug 946406 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "suspect race condition Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/946406 [15:22] Launchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276 [15:22] - Briefly discussed foundations-q-autocreate-preseed with Colin, will try to get some basic implementation during my trip tomorrow [15:22] Launchpad bug 423616 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper boot doesn't work with some boot options" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423616 [15:22] Launchpad bug 476208 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper booting from nfsroot doesn't respect nfs filesystem options correctly" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476208 [15:22] [15:22] Launchpad bug 747888 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper script 25configure_init clobbers 22serialtty, serial console nearly unusable" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747888 [15:22] - Travel/Schedule [15:22] - I'll be at the LTSP hackfest tomorrow and Friday, available on IRC when not traveling. [15:22] - Monday is a bank holiday. [15:22] - I'll be off Thursday and Friday next week, traveling to Europe, will then work on European timezone until UDS. [15:22] (DONE) [15:22] stgraber, hug everyone from me [15:22] ogra_: will do [15:22] and send greetings to speedbump [15:22] :) [15:23] ogra_: when is your hw for the "internal project" due to arrive? [15:23] stgraber: Are you fixing bug 1058179 in addition to having diagnosed it, or should I follow up on that? [15:23] Launchpad bug 1058179 in ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn (Ubuntu Quantal) "Incomplete language install (language-pack-zh-hans: 1:12.10+20120920)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058179 [15:23] slangasek, it said 3-5 workdays [15:23] phooey, that's a long time [15:23] stokachu: make sure ubuntu-sponsors are subscribed, those three 977959,683640,1053306 don't and hence are not in the http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ and hence fell out of my radar of "easy sponsorship tasks" I try to do in evenings =) [15:23] slangasek, though its not clear yet that i ordered the right thing :P [15:23] seemingly there is some confusion ... i might end up with both :) [15:23] you didn't request the SCHNELL SCHNELL shipping option? [15:24] lol [15:24] slangasek: random stats: we're currently using 1.2 TB with 2.2 TB free. We're effectively doubling that (going from three nodes in Cassandra to six). [15:24] cjwatson: I'll see how fixable it's, but I'm expecting a similar mess as 12.04.1 where the image gets really big really quickly [15:24] no offer for that [15:24] xnox: ? ive been assigning ubuntu-sru [15:24] ev: that's apropos the crash pruning? [15:24] they are notified of all changes is that not correct? [15:24] cjwatson: I assigned it to me now so I don't forget [15:24] stokachu: ubuntu-sru doesn't sponsor things, just review/accept uploads. [15:25] stokachu: (Well, we *can* sponsor things, but that's not the point of the group) [15:25] ah [15:25] slangasek: that's the amount of space in use on each node [15:25] (we have replication set to 3) [15:25] lol so what group should I be adding? [15:25] just ubuntu-sponsors? [15:25] we don't save the core files right now [15:25] once they're retraced, they're deleted [15:25] stgraber: I was hoping that size would be less of an issue now [15:25] ev: ok - so how fast are we burning through the space at this point? :) Does it grow linearly? [15:25] stgraber: But we should certainly establish that the things QA is testing for agree with what the owners of this image think they want to offer :-) [15:26] stokachu: Just ubuntu-sponsors, yes [15:26] ahhh no wonder [15:26] stokachu: ubuntu-sponsors, if you need a sponsor, ubuntu-sru as well, if it's an SRU bug, though the latter often happens automagically when we run tools to accept things from the queue anyway. [15:26] [TOPIC] Bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs [15:26] [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html [15:26] stokachu: Right, it doesn't hurt to subscribe ubuntu-sru as well but it basically doesn't help [15:26] stokachu: you need both for SRU: debdiff -> unapproved queue -> accepted in -proposed. Sponsors for the first hop, SRU team for the second hop. [15:26] ah ok awesome, makes sense now [15:26] slangasek: doubling every six months [15:26] cjwatson: well, IIRC if we actually include everything, we're talking about almost 100MB (all chinese langpacks + dictionaries + ibus tables + the same for english) [15:27] excellent, makes sense now thanks [15:27] ev: ew? [15:27] ill get them assigned to the sponsors queue [15:27] subscribed not assigned [15:27] cjwatson: anyway, I'll take a look after the meeting, will fix the package and see how big the difference will be [15:27] I thought I was being conservative with the suggestion of linear growth :P [15:28] stokachu: can't we afford that in chinese-quantal image at the expense of non-chinese langpacks? [15:28] You mean stgraber not stokachu [15:28] yes. [15:28] so our targeted bug count is certainly looking better this week [15:28] And I don't think langpacks come close to offsetting additional language *support* [15:28] but as cjwatson pointed out, it's still high [15:28] stgraber: can't we afford that in chinese-quantal image at the expense of non-chinese langpacks? [15:29] looks like we're down from ~60 to 41 [15:29] 20 priority High [15:29] Anyone know what's happening with these apt gpg bugs? [15:29] xnox: there's no easy way to remove langpacks as the image is built with ubuntu-defaults-builder, not our usual tools and ultimately the problem is that we can't remove the english langpack as various bits depend on en_US.UTF-8 being around (instead of just using C.UTF-8) [15:29] cjwatson: I've seen activity on them from mvo [15:30] Can we assign him to them? [15:30] * xnox wants to target some bugs to r-series, and if fixed in r, sru into quantal. [15:30] (the acient onces) [15:30] xnox: how often does this report get generated [15:30] slangasek: :) iz webops problem [15:30] slangasek: The eglibc one's being done today. [15:30] cjwatson: about apt-gpg bugs, it wasn't clear to me if it's all fix-released or partitially solved. since there were security uploads done. [15:31] stokachu: the rls-q-tracking one is hourly [15:31] cjwatson: bug #1016643 has had SRUs for software-properties in friends; maybe the apt task is no longer relevant? [15:31] xnox: If you're planning on SRUing things into quantal post-release, please set the milestone to quantal-updates so that that's immediately clear from the report [15:31] stokachu: Last updated at: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:09:36 -0000. My guess is every hour? [15:31] Launchpad bug 1016643 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "add-apt-repository downloads gpg key in an insecure fashion" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016643 [15:31] slangasek: Indeed, I don't know [15:31] ok cool thanks [15:31] And bug 1013681 has been stagnant for a while [15:31] Launchpad bug 1013681 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "make apt-key net-update secure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013681 [15:31] bdmurray: hmm, why did we agree to be responsible for fontconfig? :) [15:31] slangasek: I heard Laney likes fontconfig a lot =) [15:32] cjwatson: so 1013681 doesn't seem tied to the release, I'm going to -notfixing it [15:32] slangasek: having it appear in the spreadsheet doesn't mean agree ;-) [15:32] slangasek: but #1008777 may or may not be a bug/misfeature, but it almost certainly doesn't need to be targetted and tracked as special. [15:32] slangasek: sounds good to me [15:33] I would love the report to notice that bug 1053770 is assigned to James Page and maybe that ought to override its own idea of which team it belongs to [15:33] Launchpad bug 1053770 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-server install takes up too much space" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053770 [15:33] bdmurray: can you bump that over to desktop in the spreadsheet? [15:33] slangasek: sure [15:34] cjwatson: noted regarding the report [15:34] Of course, you win some you lose some, since we'd gain at least one bug from elsewhere that way [15:34] infinity: 1008777> undecided+incomplete, that's not really one we're worrying about as-is (it was clearly targeted by the community, not through the rls-q-incoming queue) [15:35] slangasek: it was targetted by vanhoof [15:35] Yeah, I'm basically ignoring stuff from Medium on down for the purposes of worrying about the count [15:36] bug #1026778 filled me with maintainer-script-induced rage; I think we should untarget it [15:36] Launchpad bug 1026778 in dictionaries-common (Ubuntu Quantal) "Package does not upgrade cleanly from precise" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026778 [15:36] So as far as I'm concerned the current report says we have 20 RC bugs [15:36] bdmurray: right, but I don't think he was meaning to ask us to fix it [15:36] slangasek: Agreed, at least pending the information requested some weeks ago [15:37] slangasek: oh, so if he was doing it right he would have tagged it? [15:37] bdmurray: yeah [15:37] I think he was targeting it for his /own/ team to work on :) [15:37] jodh: bug 740390 is interesting, but to be solved not in upstart package?! But still interesting bug. [15:37] Launchpad bug 740390 in dbus (Ubuntu Quantal) "libdbus-1-3 upgrade does not respawn init, resulting in unclean shutdown" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740390 [15:38] xnox: Yes, until stateful-reexec lands, the handful of libraries that upstart itself uses need to do this [15:38] untargeting 1017001; still a problem, but only a trickle of bug reports and there's no reason to expect problems here for precise->quantal [15:38] cjwatson: ok. so I got it right that stateful reexec solves this generically. [15:38] jodh: libnih* has the same problem, FWIW [15:39] cjwatson: last comment on 1013681 has you mentioning sudo access on pepo, which we have back now... should we take the server side of that on, or leave it to webops? [15:39] cjwatson: ta - I'll take a look. [15:40] cjwatson: 20 - 2 incomplete = 18 ;-) [15:40] slangasek: We should probably take it, but I have a vague memory that it required master key access [15:40] Which puts it past the 12.10 timeframe anyway [15:40] ok [15:41] * jodh wonders if we need a dh_reexecinit ? [15:41] no [15:41] There are only a handful of libraries here [15:41] No need to invent new infrastructure for them [15:41] we need stateful re-exec, and a quick fix for the 4 library packages affected [15:42] 3, since libc has handled this for years [15:42] yep [15:43] So one-liner in three postinsts, move on [15:43] * slangasek nods [15:44] cjwatson: turns out I forgot to push the changes we SRUed at the last minute for 12.04.1 to quantal, so I'm just going to bring the two ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn back in sync which should fix the bug in the process [15:44] stgraber: Ah, OK, great [15:44] * xnox \0/ [15:45]