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ScottKIt would be lovely if someone could review/accept the taglib update.   That's needed to fix one of the KDE build failures we had.00:17
stgraberScottK: looking00:22
ScottKThanks.00:22
stgraberwell, once LP gives me a diff :)00:23
ScottKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1257087/00:23
stgraberI guess that wasn't a case where you could get away with a generic usr/include/taglib/*.h?00:24
stgraberanyway, accepted00:26
jbicha^ I guess that needs at least a verbal FFe since it adds a new (renamed) package but there aren't any rdepends00:45
jbichait won't build anyway until webkit makes it to quantal00:47
balloonscan anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong -- I'm trying to launch ubiquity from my quantal box, but it only wants to run the kubuntu installer00:47
ScottKstgraber: Thanks.00:48
balloonsubiquity gtk_ui crashes, with no frontend available00:48
balloonsahh.. I solved it, but it's odd you get the kde version by default00:51
balloonswhy isn't ubiquity-frontend-gtk installed by default?00:51
micahgdebfx: Laney: qtwebkit isn't supposed to be built from the qt4-x11 source since maverick, but from qtwebkit-source01:37
ScottKwould someone please rescore taglib.  There's stuff in proposed that needs it to build.02:25
stgraberScottK: rescored02:27
ScottKstgraber: Thanks.02:28
NCommanderjbicha, ping04:47
NCommanderI don't see a bug/reason for the telepathy-farstream sync.04:47
jbichaNCommander: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=68656404:48
ubot2Debian bug 686564 in libtelepathy-farstream2 "Breaks theora video calling" [Grave,Fixed]04:48
NCommanderjbicha, thanks,accepted04:49
NCommander(Its an annoying PITA to look at sync changelogs since Launchpad doesn't give me a handy link like it does with uploads)04:50
cjwatsonballoons: it'll be random.  I see no need to explicitly prefer any particular frontend since we always select a particular one during live fs building07:18
cjwatsonballoons: and really, REALLY don't run ubiquity on your regular system.  it is not even slightly a good idea ...07:19
cjwatson(it will at the very least feel free to make configuration changes to the running system and is not at all guaranteed to put things back the way they were later)07:20
cjwatsonLaney: ignore the mail about my mistaken copy of make-dfsg to quantal-updates rather than quantal - I deleted that again08:43
debfxmicahg: it's a bit more complicated than that08:46
Laneycjwatson: righto. You got in before I saw it08:47
cjwatsonRiddell: ^- no Replaces: field?09:24
Riddellcjwatson: is that needed in -proposed?09:25
Riddellsurely -proposed is for people who do testing?09:25
cjwatsonThere's no harm in adding Replaces, and it may help09:27
cjwatsonSo why not?09:27
Riddellok dokay09:27
cjwatsonIf it gets rid of even a handful of confused bug reports it's worth it09:28
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cjwatsonCould somebody review ubiquity in unapproved, please?11:00
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cjwatsonIn fact if somebody other than me could do any queue review that would be pretty nice. :-)11:52
smartboyhw:P11:52
LaneyI'll do some in a bit.11:54
Laneypost lunch11:54
cjwatsonThanks11:54
Laney283 results :(11:55
Laneyoh, langpacks11:55
cjwatsonHuh11:55
cjwatsonI can deal with those ...11:55
cjwatsonFlushed.12:05
Laneyhow do you deal with those? do you just accept them?12:06
cjwatsonYeah12:06
cjwatsonWell I spot-checked one that it looked vaguely reasonable12:06
cjwatsonBut I'm not going to review them all :-)12:06
* xnox ponders why is it source package per lang, instead of singe source package with binary package per lang.12:06
cjwatsonThey don't *always* get uploaded in a giant block12:07
xnoxok then12:07
cjwatsonJust often12:08
cjwatsonI expect I have some status quo bias; I think I'm happier with fewer ginormous source packages though12:08
xnoxsome of them are very small like 9kB src & 3kB binary....12:15
xnoxgnome and kde-base are big.12:16
* xnox meh...12:16
cjwatsonthe non-base ones alternate between tiny and huge12:16
tumbleweedmeep, I should also do a queue pass. I haven't been doing much recently12:29
* smartboyhw wonders why everyone suddenly caught up with queue passing today:P12:29
tumbleweedurgh, I need to catch up on FFe bugs first12:30
DavieyI don't think they are overwhelming tumbleweed12:31
tumbleweedno, but tehy're in a busy inbox12:31
Davieytumbleweed: yeah, inbox traffic has indeed been high12:31
seb128Daviey, thanks for geary!12:33
Davieyseb128: np12:34
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hallynhi - IIRC when I asked beofre, for bug 1056381, it was said an FFE for spice isn't needed since it's needed for a qxl bugfix?13:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1056381 in xserver-xorg-video-qxl "[FFe: spice] error on x startup" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105638113:20
hallynbut, better safe than sorry :)13:20
stgraberhallyn: can we get a changelog for all those packages? that'd make it easier to figure out whether there are any feature changes that'd indeed require an FFe13:24
hallynstgraber: quoted into the bug you mean?13:26
stgraberhallyn: yes, please13:27
hallynok13:28
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stgraberrejected wakeup as it's a feature change without a FFe or even a bug (re-adding evolution plugin)13:40
hallynstgraber: (posted to the bug)14:01
stgraberhallyn: yep and I added the upstream changelogs for each now14:02
balloonscjwatson, ahh, so no running of ubiquity to install to another target eh? Guess I can close my own bug found then :-)14:02
xnoxballoons: already won't fixed it. =) ubiquity more-or-less copies the whole system it's booted of (the live-cd) + does cleanup. And since installed systems != livecd special built the results are unexpected =)14:04
cjwatsonballoons: Yeah, that's explicitly unsupported14:32
plarspopey: so should I use ppa:unity-team/ppa then? I looked at unity-team/release and it doesn't appear to be set to build for arm at all15:18
popeyyes plars15:18
plarspopey: ok, I had the wrong one yesterday it seems, it looks like arm still isn't build though so I'll check back later today15:18
popeythanks plars15:19
* iulian wonders why spice is sitting in the queue if its FFe hasn't been approved yet.17:04
iulianstgraber: Are you looking at spice?17:04
stgraberiulian: I can review it later today but I wouldn't mind another review of the FFe by someone who knows a bit more about spice. I'm just the original reporter of the bug as I tried using spice a couple of weeks ago and noticed that X wouldn't start in my VM.17:07
iulianstgraber: I have no experience with spice at all and thus I shall leave it to someone else.17:08
infinitystgraber: It sounds like you have as much experience as anyone, given that you've, I dunno, used it. :P17:15
stgraberhmm, then I'll give it another look and if I don't spot anything that looks scary I'll accept the FFe. Current state is that X doesn't start, so can't get much worse than that I guess17:16
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plarspopey: hey, it finally built, and seems to work here :)19:05
popeywoooooot19:05
popeyplars, so can you open music with a right click and then play preview from the store?19:06
* popey crosses fingers19:06
plarspopey: right click, yes - from the main results this time too (not just music)19:07
popeyexcellent, thanks plars, much appreciated, could you please leave a comment on bug 1055684 ?19:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1055684 in unity-lens-shopping "[FFE] Use music lens details page for music store results" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105568419:07
plarspopey: I think I'm missing the bits I need to playback the preview... let me install that19:08
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3/+build/387111219:11
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infinityI'm rejecting eglibc, since I plan to do an upload today, and it'll be a waste of buildd time to build both, I'll make sure the one in the queue is included in mine.20:16
mdeslaurinfinity: cool, thanks20:17
infinitymdeslaur: NP, happy to reject more security uploads!20:18
mdeslaurlol :)20:18
mdeslaurstupid security updates wasting all the CPU time :)20:18
infinitymdeslaur: I'm still bitter about the security update to precise that wiped out two weeks of testing on my eglibc SRU. :/20:19
infinitymdeslaur: (Reeeeeally would have been nice if someone had at least tried to contact me and coordinate that)20:20
* NCommander sits down and deals with the unapproved queue20:21
micahginfinity: I thought about mentioning it but figured you would see it in backscroll, will highlight next time20:21
mdeslaurinfinity: yeah, it sucks when that happens. sorry about that....I believe it got started a while ago20:21
infinitymicahg: Erm, hilighting me after it's uploaded would have been a bit too late anyway.20:21
infinitymdeslaur: The annoyance is that I could have finished off the SRU testing pretty quickly, and we could have pushed the security update on top.20:22
micahginfinity: they discussed it a bit first :)20:22
infinitymicahg: But not with me, nor with regard to the SRU, that's the bit that's annoying me.20:22
infinitymicahg: And it's pretty non-obvious to people who aren't paying really close attention when their SRU just disappears.20:22
micahginfinity: oh, I thought you meant the devel upload, yeah, I wasn't around for the security update in stable20:23
infinitymicahg: Oh, no, the devel upload is fine.  I just rejected it to avoid wasting resources.20:23
infinitymicahg: This is entirely about the precise upload.20:23
infinitymicahg: Which, along with resetting my SRU timer, also broke a whole class of users who had been happily using the one in -proposed. :/20:24
mdeslaurinfinity: we'll make it up to you with some security team beer at uds ;P20:28
infinitymdeslaur: But.  But.  You guys aren't half as fun as the kernel team.20:28
infinitymdeslaur: You can always stop by their table and buy us a round. :)20:29
mdeslaurinfinity: oh, we go to the Kernel Team Variety Show too!20:29
NCommanderseb128, ping, I see an entire set of indicator-* packages in the queue with no attached bug.20:42
NCommanderWhat changes are they making?20:42
ScottKNCommander: There's no requirement for a bug.  Read the diff.20:42
NCommander(I see new upstream version released)20:42
NCommanderScottK, I did, the diff just says new upstrema version with no reason20:42
ScottKAs long as the new version is bugfix only, that's sufficient.20:43
seb128NCommander, #ps is just rolling stable tarballs for release, translation updates, minor cleanups20:43
NCommanderseb128, thanks20:43
NCommanderScottK, I'm aware of that, but I do like to verify $WORLD :-). Call it insanity/pendaticness20:43
NCommanderseb128, I'll release the entire set now20:43
seb128NCommander, thanks20:44
ogasawarainfinity: could I get those linux and linux-meta uploads approved?  It should be our last before kernel freeze tomorrow.  it's an ABI bumper too.21:21
infinityogasawara: Yeahp, can do.21:22
ogasawarainfinity: thanks, you're the best21:23
infinityogasawara: Aww, I'm blushing.21:23
plarspopey: ok, I can confirm that preview works too, sorry for the delay21:32
popeyplars, no need to apologise, I really appreciate you taking the time to test it, thanks!21:32
Davieyinfinity: are you handling d-i uploads?21:32
infinityDaviey: I will in ~8h, yeah.21:33
Davieyrocking banana !21:33
infinity(When the kernel builds are all done and such)21:33
stgraberif someone wonders, I've tested most of the changes in that casper upload. I couldn't really test the RAID stuff, but my guess is that it can't be much worse than what they have now (failure to boot)21:51
stgraberthe various persistence changes have been tested and so has the username/userfullname/hostname override21:51
stgraberThe network changes have been tested from busybox (to check that the syntax is fine) but I don't have a netboot environment here to test that it actually works at runtime (but the code is so similar that it really should)21:52
infinitystgraber: Tested "most" is really giving me confidence. ;)21:52
stgraberinfinity: it's casper we're talking about ;) testing all the possible paths in that thing would take years...21:53
ScottKkde-baseapps is me trying to salvage some binaries.22:38
infinityScottK: Was there a double-override-loss-of-binaries oops?23:02
infinityapw: Danke.23:07
apwinfinity, np23:08
wgrantinfinity: No, there was a copy-from-proposed-before-armhf-built oops23:11
infinitywgrant: Ahh.  Oops indeed.23:11
wgrantinfinity: ScottK and I are poking to copy them across23:11
infinitywgrant: Thanks for helping.23:11
wgrantUsing the same binary recovery method that's never been used on the primary archive before23:11
wgrantAnd running into some issues23:11
wgrantBut I think we'll have it sorted out once he's back to rerun the copy23:12
wgrantAnd then we'll know this works and can use it properly in future23:12
wgrantThe latest trick is that copyPackage doesn't let you specify a custom source pocket, instead just picking the latest publication with that (archive, name, version)23:14
wgrantSo asking it to copy that version picks the release publication, not the proposed one, so it doesn't grab the missing binaries23:15
wgrantBut if we copy it back to proposed, then from proposed back to release, it will grab the missing binaries, and all will be good in the world.23:15
infinityYeah, I've used THAT copy trick before.23:15
infinityupdates -> proposed -> updates23:15
wgrantRight23:15
infinityIt's from a pocket to itself that's the curiously bizarre use-case.23:16
wgrantAnd the non-deterministic override selection issue is a bit problematic, but relatively easily fixable.23:17

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