[06:17] <magespawn> good morning 
[06:24] <bmg505> hello
[06:25] <bmg505> Kerbero, are you active on 20m bbm/mixit?
[06:25] <Kerbero> not really
[06:25] <Kerbero> my radio progapate the best on the WTF band :P
[06:26] <Kerbero> i'm mostly only on IRC these days
[07:16] <Kilos> cremora minora
[07:16] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[07:17] <inetpro> oh and good morning
[07:17] <Kilos> ty inetpro struggling with kde and nm
[07:17] <Kilos> got here with sakis3g
[07:17] <Kilos> oh and morning to you too
[07:17] <Kilos> kde is for clever peeps
[07:18] <inetpro> hmm...
[07:19] <Kilos> luckily irc connects, for some reason pidgin wont today
[07:20] <Kilos> i tried setting up kppp and think i did something that blocking pidgin from sakis3g connection
[07:20] <Kilos> hiya superfly 
[07:21] <Kilos> configuring with kde isnt as easy as with gnome
[07:21] <Kilos> or even unity
[07:21]  * inetpro never used sakis3g
[07:22] <Kilos> it works everytime when nothing else does
[07:22] <inetpro> I really don't see what is so difficult to configure on kde
[07:22] <Kilos> its a tiny script
[07:22] <Kilos> nm cant see my modem
[07:22] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:23] <Kilos> when i tell it its at /dev/ttys1 it doesnt see it there but sakis does
[07:23] <Kilos> superfly, i like the single click function
[07:24] <superfly> OK
[07:24] <Kilos> reinstalled and only switched off desktop effects
[07:25] <Kilos> i also like the help function but so much to read
[07:25] <superfly> Kilos: open Konsole, run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and then plug your modem in and see if you can see a device like "/dev/ttyUSB0" or "/dev/ttyACM0"
[07:27] <Kilos> nope
[07:28] <bmg505> Kerbero, servicing antennas :(
[07:28] <Kilos> bmg505, dont fall off
[07:28] <Kilos> hi Kerbero 
[07:28] <bmg505> no ways, although the one mast only has one stay wire
[07:29] <Kilos> ai
[07:29] <Kilos> is it far to fall
[07:30] <Kilos> i go let sheep out
[07:52] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:52] <Kilos> brb system restart needed
[11:34] <Kilos> aw now i forgot what i wanted to ask
[11:34] <Kilos> grrr
[12:16] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[12:16] <kilos> hi magespawn 
[12:17] <kilos> really struggling with kubuntu and 3g
[12:17] <kilos> works on fone but not modem
[12:17] <kilos> so installing again
[12:17] <kilos> hehe
[12:17] <kilos> even sakis3g stopped working
[12:18] <kilos> it says something about magic cookies after entering password and sakis3g dont start
[12:19] <kilos> and kppp is a bit much for me to configure
[12:20] <kilos> i think the only guys that have done more installs than me do it commersially
[12:20] <kilos> commercially
[12:21] <kilos> even tried installing 11.04
[12:21] <kilos> then kde without deleting /home
[12:27] <kilos> me steals sim for fone again, see you's later
[12:27] <kilos> hopefully
[13:25] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[13:25]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[13:28] <bakuman> Maaz, coffee please
[13:28] <Maaz> bakuman: Alrighty
[13:29] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and bakuman!
[13:29] <bakuman> thanks Maaz 
[13:35] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[13:35] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[13:35] <Kilos> hi bakuman
[13:35] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[13:36] <magespawn> working?
[13:50] <Kilos> magespawn: wassup
[13:57] <bakuman> hi Oom Kerbero 
[13:57] <bakuman> oops
[13:57] <bakuman> Kilos 
[14:02] <Kilos> lol
[14:03] <Kilos> the tab goodie catches us all every now and again hey bakuman
[14:04] <inetpro> Kilos: wat sukkel jy so?
[14:04] <inetpro> Kilos: if you don't start with a fresh /home folder you can't expect new results
[14:04] <Kilos> eish inetpronm wys nie enable mobile broadband nie
[14:04] <Kilos> moet foon gebruik
[14:05] <Kilos> tried first without deleting home but didnt work then either
[14:05] <inetpro> Kilos: many settings are stored in the /home folder
[14:06] <Kilos> i even installed 11.04 and then kde and didnt delete home
[14:06] <Kilos> i even tried backup
[14:07] <Kilos> can i rsync home from maverick and through it in here?
[14:07] <inetpro> ai
[14:07] <Kilos> lol i am on konversation to see if sound works
[14:07] <Kilos> sigh
[14:08] <Kilos> no irc clients sound works here
[14:08] <inetpro> the home issue is very simple to circumnavigate 
[14:08] <inetpro> just create a new user account
[14:08] <Kilos> but thats for later, first gotta get nm to see modem and enble mobile broadband permanently
[14:09] <Kilos> and then?
[14:09] <inetpro> start with a fresh profile
[14:09] <Kilos> i wanna be me not someone else
[14:10] <inetpro> you can be you no matter the account name
[14:10] <Kilos> lol 
[14:10] <Kilos> being a new user isnt gonna make nm work is it?
[14:11] <inetpro> it's not like you're suddenly becoming a new personality
[14:11] <Kilos> it must work here
[14:11] <Kilos> when i fiddled with nm even sakis crashed
[14:11] <inetpro> ai
[14:12] <Kilos> then there was lotsa error stuff about magic cookies
[14:13] <Kilos> kde is becoming a fierce challenge for me
[14:13] <Kilos> i will get it working even if i must install 10 times more
[14:13] <Kilos> i go get gate
[14:14] <Kilos> back
[14:14] <Kilos> heres a question. when i start the install isnt it supposed to show something about nm so one can connect
[14:15] <Kilos> where does one get to connect so it can update while installing?
[14:16] <Kilos> is it my imagination or was it here first time i installed kde
[14:16] <Kilos> now i see no bottom panel with nm applet
[14:18] <Kilos> i even registered a the kubuntu forum and follow what they said to do and crashed all network connection possibilities
[14:18] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[14:18]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[14:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:26] <Kilos_> Maaz: where is the coffee
[14:26] <Maaz> Kilos_: Not a clue, sorry
[15:13] <Kilos> hmm
[16:24] <Kilos> wb Trixar_za Ludo
[16:24] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[16:24] <Kilos> interwebs messing around again
[16:43] <Kilos> superfly: does one use medibuntu on kde?
[16:44] <superfly> Kilos: these days you just need to install kubutnu-restricted-extras, I think
[16:44] <Kilos> ok ty
[17:25] <Kilos> hi smile
[17:25] <smile> hi Kilos :p
[17:26] <smile> I'm trying to learn about portable apps format
[17:26] <smile> :p
[17:26] <Kilos> hehe
[17:26] <smile> it's very different from what I used to know (version 1.0, now at 3.0)
[17:34] <nuvolari> aloha
[17:34] <nuvolari> e/
[17:38] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[17:42] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :> gaan dit goen vanaand oom?
[17:42] <nuvolari> *goed
[17:43] <Kilos> ja dankie en daar?
[17:43] <nuvolari> kan nie kla nie dankie oom
[17:43] <Kilos> ek stry met kde
[17:45] <nuvolari> oom is op oom se eie daar... :P
[17:45] <nuvolari> daar is te veel goeters wat 'n mens kan stel
[18:07] <Kilos> superfly: whats the reason desktop effects must be unticked?
[18:07] <Kilos> is it because of nvidia-current not installed
[18:07] <Kilos> yet
[18:07] <superfly> Kilos: yes
[18:07] <superfly> (in short)
[18:07] <Kilos> ah and what do them effects do
[18:08] <Kilos> use more resources?
[18:24] <Kilos> superfly: im in phonon settings and the notifications block is grayed out and doesnt enable. is that maybe why i got no sound in quassel and xchat?
[18:24] <superfly> Kilos: phonon settings, in System Settings?
[18:24] <Kilos> yeah
[18:25] <Kilos> its only the notifications block thats disabled
[18:25] <superfly> Kilos: I have a few grey entries, and one enabled entries in notifications
[18:27] <Kilos> superfly: if you tick apply device list to at the bottom is the notifications one in there enabled
[18:28] <Kilos> in mine its only notifications that cant enable
[18:28] <superfly> yes
[18:28] <Kilos> im sure thats why i got no bloeps
[18:29] <Kilos> i cant enable mine
[18:29] <Kilos> grrr
[18:29] <Kilos> whats missing
[18:30] <superfly> Kilos: it changes depending on which section you have enabled. click on the "music" item, and then click that button again
[18:31] <Kilos> aw i thought id found the prob
[18:31]  * Kilos keeps looking
[18:31] <Kilos> ty superfly
[18:32] <smileweb> bye
[18:32] <smileweb> good night, kilos and superfly
[18:32] <Kilos> night smilsleep tight
[18:33] <Kilos> grrr
[18:34] <superfly> Kilos: is it *just* notifications? do you hear the login sound?
[18:34] <Kilos> yes lekker music
[18:35] <Kilos> only quassel konversation and xchat no sound
[18:35] <Kilos> methinks maybe its one gstreamer missing
[18:36] <Kilos> only the irc clients dont bloep bepp or whateva
[18:36] <Kilos> beep
[18:41] <Kilos> maybe this is the prob  http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1124
[18:41] <superfly> Kilos: in the notifications dialog in Quassel, if you click on the little play icon, does it play a sound?
[18:41] <Kilos> but they dont say how to fix it
[18:41] <Kilos> i dont think its a quassel bug though
[18:43] <Kilos> http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1106
[18:43] <Kilos> same thing
 Kilos: in the notifications dialog in Quassel, if you click on the little play icon, does it play a sound?
[18:46] <Kilos> yessir
[18:46] <superfly> Kilos: do you want it to bloep for every message, or just when your name is mentioned?
[18:47] <Kilos> nick mentioned 
[18:47] <Kilos> or even all of them to start
[18:48] <Kilos> was in #kubuntu now and heard you say my nick
[18:48] <Kilos> only when im here theres nothing
[18:48] <superfly> Kilos: your main problem is that IRC is the only window you have open
[18:48] <Kilos> nope
[18:48] <superfly> Kilos: Quassel doesn't bloep when the current channel is selected and Quassel is focused
[18:48] <Kilos> pidgin opera
[18:49] <superfly> that's what that bug said - they're not going to change that
[18:49] <superfly> (though I thought the one notification does that)
[18:49] <Kilos> oh  my
[18:49] <superfly> Kilos: but we can get around it
[18:49] <Kilos> oooo that sounds good
[18:50] <superfly> Kilos: go to Settings -> Configure
[18:50] <Kilos> Configure quassel or notifications
[18:50] <superfly> Then go down to "highlight"
[18:50] <superfly> quassel
[18:51] <Kilos> yes?
[18:51] <superfly> click the Add button, and then double-click on the new item in the list
[18:51] <superfly> type your nick in there, and uncheck the "CS" checkbox
[18:52] <superfly> then click "apply"
[18:52] <superfly> I don't know if this will work for sure, but it might
[18:52] <Kilos> dont hi superfly
[18:52] <Kilos> done
[18:53] <superfly> Kilos: does this work?
[18:53] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[18:53]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[18:53] <Kilos> nope
[18:53] <superfly> hrm
[18:53] <superfly> meh.
[18:54] <superfly> Kilos: I'm afraid you're not gonna get much better than this
[18:54] <Kilos> hehe ok ill leave it off if i wanna hear
[18:54] <Kilos> ty superfly
[19:05] <Kilos> hehe im gonna try this one
[19:05] <Kilos> /usr/share/sounds/Kopete_Received.ogg
[19:16] <Kilos> superfly: 
 Kilos: if you follow the links in the bug report you posted, it says to be fixed in 'future release', but also (more links in) that the notification system is being re-worked to remove duplications and reduce overhead
[19:16] <superfly> yo
[19:16] <superfly> OK
 or minimize the window
[19:17] <Kilos> there we go
[19:19] <Kilos> inetpro: ^^
[19:20] <Kilos> lotsa peeps on #kubuntu
[19:47] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight