[00:00] <sssilver_> zykotick9: Gentoo actually
[00:00] <zykotick9> dr_willis: s/on ubuntu/on grub2/
[00:00] <Cyberspaceloa> just to prove I'm not "making it all up"
[00:00] <dr_willis> grub1 used menu.lst i thought..
[00:00] <dr_willis> been ages since i last used grub1 ;P
[00:00] <zykotick9> dr_willis: lol, it does ;)
[00:01] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, there's no official title with the word "vanilla" in it.. same thing with "chocolate"..
[00:01] <zykotick9> grub.conf only stays until the next grub-update is run (any kernel updates) so it's silly to edit.
[00:01] <choct155> has anyone had problems with 12.04 LTS booting consistently on ASUS machines?  I often get stuck on the purple screen and have not yet located a remedy that works
[00:02] <Cyberspaceloa> jagginess: I didn't invent it.
[00:02] <Cyberspaceloa> :)
[00:02] <jagginess> Cyberspaceloa, there's no vanilla distro.
[00:02] <jagginess> -_-
[00:02] <jagginess> just ask the question
[00:02] <Cyberspaceloa> lol
[00:02] <Hatori> vanilla distro? What is it?
[00:02] <dr_willis> choct155:  asus makes a lot of differnt machines...
[00:03] <dr_willis> Hatori:  vanilla is  analous to the term 'generic'  or 'standard'
[00:03] <dr_willis> vanilla ubuntu = 'a default install of ubuntu with no extra stuff added'
[00:03] <jagginess> its some noobs out there wanting to distinguish between X-Ubuntu to Ubuntu... it's not an official title of anything
[00:03] <jagginess> commonly people use "vanilla" in kernel compiling dialog
[00:03] <WeThePeople> is the grub the same for all linux distros??
[00:04]  * dr_willis goes to have some Apple Pie and Vanilla Ice Cream
[00:04] <Cyberspaceloa> ha
[00:04] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  some use grub1 some use grub2.
[00:04] <Hatori> jagginess, i think you're right
[00:04] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, besides that
[00:04]  * Cyberspaceloa goes off to find a notary to make "Vanilla Ubuntu" *official*
[00:04] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  theres nothing stopping a disrto from doing weird stuff with grub
[00:05] <jagginess> well ubuntu.. should be called "CHOCOLATE DEBIAN"
[00:05] <L3top> WeThePeople: you are using grub2.
[00:05]  * dr_willis likes Butter Pecan.
[00:05] <jagginess> so it makes no more sense to bring up un-official titles.
[00:05] <WeThePeople> l3top, yes
[00:05] <zykotick9> jagginess: ubuntu shouldn't be called anything-debian or debian-anything...
[00:06] <Cyberspaceloa> jagginess: I agree with zykotick9, you should stick with the official terminology
[00:06] <WeThePeople> l3top, you said earlier that all i need to do when the fresh copy of winxp is install is repair the grub, what about the mbr do i need to do anything there?
[00:06] <Hatori> thats different things but with same core :d
[00:06]  * jagginess remarks on the trending mentality of previous marks made by the advocates of "vanilla".
[00:06] <sisook> hi ya'll, im wondering if some one could help me with apt-get install-ing into a virtualenv
[00:07] <Hatori> !ot
[00:07] <choct155> fair point, i am trying to find the model number (new to linux)
[00:07] <L3top> WeThePeople: grub lives in MBR... they are the same animal.
[00:07]  * jagginess thinks Cyberspaceloa is trolling
[00:07] <Hatori> sisook what you mean with virtualenv?
[00:07] <WeThePeople> l3top, ok, can i use a diff. live cd distro to repair lucid?
[00:07] <WeThePeople> like 11.10
[00:08] <zykotick9> L3top: grub "lives in MBR & /boot/grub" actually ;)  grub in MBR only does nothin'.
[00:08] <bobweaver> Hello there I am trying to  set up a new partition and have read about them on the wiki. But I think that I have to do something different then I am use to. Here is a screen shot of gparted http://imagebin.org/230698   I would like to make that big blank space for 12.04 but seems like I can not because I get error and something about exstended partitions ,,, I am lost thanks for you time and let me know if you would like a paste of something
[00:08] <sisook> @Hatori i'm on a VM and using a python isolated env (virtualenv)
[00:08] <L3top> WeThePeople: yes... you will mount your linux partition, chroot into it after binding dev and a couple of other things for good measure that are not likely needed, but I am a slave to method, and run two simple commands.
[00:09] <ActionPa1snip> bobweaver: well yeah, you have 3 primary partitions and an extended partition
[00:09] <L3top> WeThePeople: zykotick9 is correct... I was using shorthand to answer your question. Yes... you can use 1110.
[00:09] <ActionPa1snip> bobweaver: thats the max you can have
[00:10] <Hatori> sisook, i'm haven't yet learn virtualenv, maybe other people could help you
[00:10] <sisook> @Hatori so i can manage where my python packages get installed across multiple projects... but I guess the real question is how to enforce on my Lucid machine to use python 2.u7 instead of 2.6 globally
[00:10] <bobweaver> ActionPa1snip,  Yeah that is what it said . should I boot live cd and move the / so that it  has more open space ?
[00:10] <sisook> 2.7*
[00:10] <bobweaver> or anyother Ideas ?
[00:10] <bobweaver> any other *
[00:11] <geek> #ubuntu-us-or
[00:11] <geek> ooops....
[00:11] <ActionPa1snip> bobweaver: its an option. You could grow the extended partition (if this is possible) then you are ok. I don't have this stuff as I plan my partitions
[00:11] <jagginess> bobweaver, that's a big mess
[00:12] <bobweaver> Yeah I have been stearing clear of the partitioning and moving for weeks now
[00:12] <L3top> WeThePeople: I have to eat now... Warrior needs food badly... Warrior is about to die.
[00:12] <jagginess> bobweaver, best thing to do, is use a 2nd drive, clone  /dev/sda5 onto /dev/sdb<> somewhere, and the remove completely the whole extendeded partition on /dev/sda
[00:12] <WeThePeople> l3top, ok thanks for the help
[00:12] <L3top> WeThePeople: will be back in 15 or so
[00:12] <jagginess> bobweaver, (clonezilla comes to mind)
[00:12] <bobweaver> jagginess,  very cool thanks
[00:12] <choct155> has anyone had problems booting 12.04 LTS consistently on an ASUS U46E?  (Intel® Core™ i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz × 4; graphics:  VESA: Intel®Sandybridge Mobile Graphics)
[00:13] <jagginess> bobweaver, and backup /dev/sda7 as well of course.. any logical partitions with data on it (no need to backup any swap partition)
[00:13] <L3top> choct155: rather than ask an "anyone" question, just give details of the issue you having.
[00:15] <bobweaver> Well I mean I have no troubles at all removing the ntfs and dell stuff but dont want to void warranty and not sure if it would
[00:16] <L3top> bobweaver: clonezilla will make a clone of the current drive, and should you ever need to, it can be restored as if nothing ever happened to it, assuming the drive itself is not defunct.
[00:16] <jagginess> bobweaver, yeah.. if you can wipe out /dev/sda1 that wouldn't hurt :).. usually there's crap on that.. like logo installers
[00:16] <choct155> My apologies for the etiquette blunders.  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS has hung up on the purple screen rather randomly on my ASUS U46E  (Intel® Core™ i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz × 4; graphics:  VESA: Intel®Sandybridge Mobile Graphics)   I have tried booting from recovery mode (which I did to get into this session), but it's just as unreliable.  I also tried updating GRUB, and a nomodeset edit in the boot script
[00:16] <Hatori> bobweaver, i think you should check your warranty
[00:16] <L3top> !nomodeset | choct155
[00:17] <jagginess> bobweaver, it's just a diagnostic bootup.. those things arent special..
[00:17] <ssfdre38> i am now getting an error with JACK audio connection kit and its not starting up
[00:17] <jagginess> bobweaver, but your windows boot may break (and you'll likely need the free paragon rescue kit-- to fix any registry-mapping to C:\)
[00:17] <Ethic> I'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH
[00:18] <choct155> thanks ubottu, i will give it a shot
[00:19] <bobweaver> that is what I figured and to be 100% honest I have never used the windows side well not ever but I really do not need it maybe if cpu or anything goes wrong with computer I can send in with out harddrive. But thanks to all for your help . I will clone the drive then I will Just remove all the windows stuff thanks again
[00:19] <jagginess> bobweaver, gparted live cd can probably move /dev/sda3 (after wiping out sda1 and sda2) to the beginning of the drive
[00:20] <jagginess> bobweaver, you can do that..
[00:20] <lsj8924> emm
[00:20] <lsj8924> let me think
[00:20] <awc737> NO! this is BS! I can not let this happen again!!! XUBUNTU will randomly loose my installed software, then after a reboot, won't even BOOT!
[00:21] <bobweaver> jagginess,  yeah that is what I am thinking , the only reason that I would like to have other partition is to install 12.04 because then I can hack at Unity-2d for 5 more years ! :)
[00:21] <awc737> about ~3 hours into a fresh Xubu install, (seemingly close to after installing LAMP), I notice "Ubuntu Software Center" is missing from my main menu
[00:21] <awc737> then I notice my other applications are missing, Evolution mail, etc
[00:21] <rinzler> dr_willis: switched to lubuntu per your suggestion yesterday, and am loving it. Thanks for the idea!
[00:21] <awc737> then, I better not restart my computer, cause I will never get back!!!!
[00:21] <awc737> please help
[00:22] <BrendenT> Hi all.  Trying to install MySQL, apt-get gives me a bunch of 404.  I'm on an AWS instance.
[00:23] <bobweaver> Breadflour,  can you update ?  sudo apt-get update
[00:23] <awc737> To summarize: 3 hours into a fresh Xubu install, I notice "Ubuntu Software Center", and other self-installed software is missing. Last time this happened, rebooting resulted in never getting my machine back!!!!
[00:23] <ActionPa1snip> BrendenT: did you run:  sudo apt-get update    first?
[00:23] <ActionPa1snip> BrendenT: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:23] <xangua> awc737: xubuntu doesn't come with evolution, no idea about software center or if it has it's own Xubuntu software center as Lubuntu has
[00:23] <BrendenT> yes, sudo apt-get update gives a fair number of errors too.
[00:23] <BrendenT> let me get the lsb ... output...
[00:24] <bobweaver> awc737,  did you look to see what is missing ?     dpkg-query -l | awk '{print $2}'
[00:24] <BrendenT> sudo lsb_release -sc gives "precise" as the output, just that one word
[00:26] <ActionPa1snip> BrendenT: it  doesn't need sudo, or I would have added it
[00:26] <awc737> xangua: you see my post... I said my self-installed software disappears
[00:26] <ActionPa1snip> BrendenT: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[00:26] <awc737> bobweaver: what am I looking for in this result?
[00:26] <dr_willis> 'self installed software'  - means what exactly?
[00:26] <awc737> software I installed myself...
[00:27] <awc737> and even Ubuntu Software Center, which I didn't install
[00:27] <BrendenT> yes I can ping 8.8.8.8...
[00:27] <awc737> everything is just missing
[00:27] <awc737> I know if I restart my PC, I'll never get it back
[00:27] <bobweaver> awc737,  that will list all programs install on system that is it
[00:27] <ActionPa1snip> BrendenT: run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[00:27] <jagginess> awc737, but if you pulled the plug, what happens?
[00:27] <ActionPa1snip> BrendenT: then retry the: sudo apt-get update
[00:28] <jagginess> !xubuntu
[00:28] <awc737> jagginess: what?
[00:28] <BrendenT> nameserver gives me command not found, unfortunately...
[00:29] <awc737> bobweaver: well, I don't know what I should do with that list
[00:29] <Cyberspaceloa> sorry awc737, my network connection tanked. did more capable people jump on your problem?
[00:29] <awc737> Cyberspaceloa: not yet
[00:29] <WeThePeople> zykotick9, thanks for the hint :)
[00:29] <elisa87> Does Skype in Ubuntu have video chatting or just voice ?
[00:29] <awc737> this is so frustrating, i just installed Xubu, then spent 3 hours re-customizing my install after this happened last time
[00:29] <jagginess> elisa87, i think skype is closed-source
[00:29] <awc737> installing all my apps, etc
[00:30] <sssilver_> muelli: after adding the boot option, still doesn't work. dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12571210/
[00:30] <zykotick9> jagginess: i know skype is closed source
[00:30] <awc737> the last thing I really remember doing was tasksel LAMP
[00:30] <muelli> sssilver_:  The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist.
[00:30] <sssilver_> muelli: * http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257120/
[00:30] <sssilver_> sorry
[00:31] <jagginess> elisa87, that would be non-free repositories or maybe another multiverse repository
[00:31] <awc737> here is my only indiction of a problem:
[00:31] <awc737> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:31] <zykotick9> awc737: only 1 package manager at a time is allowed
[00:32] <muelli> hm sssilver_. Can you pastebin "ls /dev/input/" again?
[00:32] <awc737> no sorry nvm, thats cause I was trying something in tasksel to fix it
[00:32] <sssilver_> muelli: * http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257124/
[00:32] <muelli> sssilver_: and do "cat /dev/input/mice" again, wobble the mouse and tell whether there is anything on the terminal..?
[00:32] <elisa87> jagginess but I found it in ubuntu software service
[00:32] <sssilver_> muelli: nothing
[00:32] <elisa87> how can i install windows software on my ubuntu?
[00:32] <elisa87> virtual box?
[00:33] <sssilver_> elisa87: that, or Wine
[00:33] <awc737> I am so scared to reboot my computer, but I don't know what else to do
[00:33] <muelli> sssilver_: hm. can you "cat" any of those files in /dev/input, wobble the mouse and tell whether there is anything?
[00:33] <jagginess> elisa87, ubuntu softwater center includes commercial apps too
[00:33] <awc737> My ubuntu software center just disappeared
[00:33] <jagginess> elisa87, but it doesnt mean it's open source
[00:33] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: have you determined whether the applications are still installed but maybe not showing up in your menu?
[00:33] <muelli> sssilver_: i.e. cat each file seperately. One after another... Eventualyl hit Ctrl+C to abort cat.
[00:33] <elisa87> so all in all, you mean that skype on ubuntu doesn't have video chat?
[00:33] <muelli> sssilver_: also do some clicking...
[00:33] <jagginess> elisa87, you'll have to try it out and see if it does the job (or maybe #skype :?)
[00:33] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: I've noticed that some packages I've installed don't automatically show up in the Xubuntu menus
[00:34] <elisa87> by the way jagginess how can i install virtual box?
[00:34] <zykotick9> jagginess: s/ubuntu software center/ubuntu's app store/ ;)
[00:34] <yekoms> !virtualbox
[00:34] <awc737> Cyberspaceloa: what would ubu software center be called?
[00:34] <awc737> with the command dpkg-query -l | awk '{print $2}
[00:34] <sssilver_> muelli: event3 responds to keyboard...
[00:34] <zykotick9> elisa87: fyi a lot of ubuntu software is non-free.
[00:34] <VonWhistler> Guys, If i wanted to setup a high availability apache server, whats would use for IP level availability. I was suggested LVS. Is this the tree I want to be barking up?
[00:34] <yekoms> !virtualbox | elisa87
[00:34] <sssilver_> muelli: event2 sorry
[00:34] <muelli> sssilver_: if all that doesn't yield anything, I am out of ideas. Could it be, that the mouse is defective?
[00:34] <bobweaver> !info software-center | awc737
[00:34] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: I have successfully video chatted with the linux native skype in ubuntu
[00:35] <awc737> yes software-center is listed
[00:35] <awc737> I can't go up to see if evolution or chromium is listed
[00:35] <Hatori> elisa87, i think you should use similiar application that was available on linux
[00:35] <bobweaver> awc737,  you could do    dpkg-query -l | awk '/software-center/ {print $2}'
[00:35] <awc737> because the long list cuts off at k
[00:35] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: have you tried to invoke it from the cli?
[00:35] <sssilver_> muelli: none of that worked
[00:36] <awc737> Cyberspaceloa: chromium-browser is also listed, although it also disappeared from my main menu
[00:36] <awc737> how would I invoke chromium from the command line
[00:36] <sssilver_> muelli: it's unlikely that I'd have 2 defective PS/2 mice which'd behave identical
[00:36] <dr_willis> chrom<tab>
[00:36] <elisa87>  Cyberspaceloa how did you find the video chat button in Skype? I cannot find it
[00:36] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: try calling one of the missing applications from the command line and see if it runs
[00:36] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: hopefully your menu is just misconfigured somehow
[00:37] <muelli> sssilver_: I agree. I mean, it might after be a Linux bug. But do you have another PC that takes PS/2 and that you could test your mice on?
[00:37] <choct155> Afraid my 12.04 LTS still does not boot consistently on my ASUS U46E.  I have tried updating GRUB, fixing broken packages in recovery mode (which is just as unreliable as the normal boot), and editing the boot script to include the NOMODESET option.  Any other remedies?  (Intel® Core™ i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz × 4; VESA: Intel®Sandybridge Mobile Graphics)
[00:37] <awc737> chrmoium-browser command not found
[00:37] <bobweaver> awc737,  spelling ?
[00:37] <sssilver_> muelli: unfortunately, not :(
[00:37] <bobweaver> awc737,  that happens to me all te time
[00:37] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: have you installed skype from the partner repo?
[00:37] <zykotick9> dr_willis: on my system chro<TAB> works ;) +1 on tab suggestion
[00:37] <bobweaver> the *
[00:37] <bobweaver> :)
[00:38] <awc737> chromium-browser: command not found
[00:38] <bobweaver> awc737,  have you ran a smart test on harddrive ?
[00:38] <BrendenT> trying 8.8.8.8 as a nameserver still makes apt-get give a ton of 404 errors, unfortunately...
[00:38] <elisa87>  Cyberspaceloa no i installed it from ubuntu software center
[00:38] <elisa87> or maybe a sudo apt-get
[00:38] <muelli> sssilver_: hm. I'm sorry. I don't know how to proceed then. I would eventually try a live CD and try to boot that. Maybe something that uses a more vanilla kernel like Fedora.
[00:38] <awc737> bobweaver: this is the second hdd I had this problem
[00:38] <sssilver_> muelli: actually, I did test the compaq mouse -- it works
[00:38] <awc737> first time, i put a new hdd, reinstalled xubu, and not its happeniung again
[00:39] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: okay, as long as you used apt basically. I'll run mine and take a look at it
[00:39] <zykotick9> awc737: you don't have chromium-browser installed (but that's not the command to launch it)
[00:39] <awc737> i do have it installed zykotick9
[00:39] <awc737> according to the list
[00:39] <muelli> sssilver_: wait a second... So your PS/2 interface does work indeed for the other mouse..?
[00:39] <BarkingFish> Hi again :)  Is there any way of finding out what a metapackage installs on your PC please?  I have "purged" unity and gnome out of my kubuntu system - as was suggested last night, it did indeed cause me some issues.
[00:39] <awc737> and whats the command to run it?
[00:39] <sssilver_> muelli: no, the other mouse does work on another pc
[00:39] <muelli> BarkingFish: ubuntu-desktop
[00:39] <Cyberspaceloa> zykotick9: I just launched chromium-browser with that command
[00:39] <dr_willis>  which chromium-browser
[00:39] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/chromium-browser
[00:39] <sssilver_> muelli: it's tested
[00:39] <zykotick9> awc737: sorry "chromium-browser" DOES launch it here.  my bad.
[00:39] <awc737> omg the list is fucked up. evolution is listed. command evolution says 'evolution is not installed'
[00:40] <sssilver_> muelli: can you please remind me how to display a list of input devices again?
[00:40] <BarkingFish> But what I took out was significantly smaller than what I installed.... The system wound up installing 465 packages when I installed ubuntu-desktop, but the purge only removed 176
[00:40] <muelli> sssilver_: For X: xinput. For the kernel: ls /dev/input
[00:40] <bobweaver> BarkingFish,  what is the DE that you want ?
[00:40] <jagginess> awc737, install "ubuntu".. "xubuntu" sux.
[00:40] <zykotick9> awc737: are you looking at "dpkg -L ..." output or "apt-cache policy foo"?
[00:40] <bobweaver> KDE ?
[00:40] <BarkingFish> bobweaver, KDE only now
[00:40] <dr_willis> !purekde
[00:40] <awc737> this is my work computer and I can't spend every 3 hours reconfiguring it and joining domain and passing proxy and configuring mail
[00:40] <bobweaver> !purekde |
[00:40] <awc737> and Unity "sux" jagginess
[00:40] <muelli> sssilver_: ah, I see. Okay. So I would boot a vanilla kernel. If that still doesn't yield your mouse working (i.e. catting files in /dev/input) I would report a bug against Linux.
[00:41] <BarkingFish> I tried dual dm, GDM and KDM, GDM saused some issues for me.
[00:41] <zykotick9> awc737: all DMs Suck!  enough guys.
[00:41] <sssilver_> OK, thanks muelli !!
[00:41] <muelli> sssilver_: it's *very* unlikely though that there's a bug in Linux handling PS/2 mice though. But well, unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible.
[00:41] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: I have a button that says "Turn on video"
[00:41] <dr_willis> awc737:  sounds like you may be having some other odd hardware issues.. ive had bad hard drive cables and controllers in the past.
[00:41] <awc737> i shouldnt have this problem just because i like xfce
[00:41] <jagginess> sssilver, sounds close to "thank s-muelli !!"
[00:42] <awc737> dr_willis: that doesnt make sense. its a solid computer. I just had the SAME problem 3 hours ago, and tried a new hdd
[00:42] <awc737> its a software/config issue
[00:42] <elisa87> Cyberspaceloa where is that button? Can you take a screen shot of i?t
[00:42] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: just a moment
[00:42] <dr_willis> awc737: ive never seen stuff just 'randomly' get apt-get removed..  or vanish.
[00:42] <Hatori> awc737, exactly what the problem you're trying to solve ?
[00:42] <dr_willis> awc737:  i have seen file curruption cause all sorts of weird ness
[00:43] <Ethic> I'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH
[00:43] <loui625> hello
[00:43] <dr_willis> i wouldent think 'tasksel' would remove desktop apps either.
[00:43] <awc737> Hatori: 3 hours into a fresh Xubu install, I notice "Ubuntu Software Center", and all my self-installed software is missing. Last time this happened, rebooting resulted in never getting my machine back
[00:44] <jagginess> Ethic, apt-get update, and try the upgrade
[00:44] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i doubt tasksel removes anything - if it does, it shouldn't.
[00:44] <bobweaver> Ahh harddrive is much better :)  http://imagebin.org/230709   Now should I move that sda1 over some and then remove swap in sad4 and make a new partition for swap ?  can I even do that so the next install (couple minutes from now) can use the same swap as other partition ? thanks again
[00:44] <dr_willis> 'never getting my machine back' => what exactly did happen  when the system tried to boot...
[00:44] <jagginess> dr_willis, he's said it at least 5*** times, he can't get his PC back. (I think he loves saying this)
[00:45] <awc737> fuck this. back to Linux Mint. was looking for something lighter
[00:45] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: not the best image, but http://www.skypeassets.com/content/dam/skype/images/site/get-skype/linux/get-skype-on-linux.jpg
[00:45] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: second button from the left on the bottom
[00:45] <ActionPa1snip> awc737: tried Lubuntu?
[00:45] <BarkingFish> !language | awc737
[00:46] <dr_willis> vague details get vague answers i guess...
[00:46] <bobweaver> unity-2d can run on wayland metacity ect (If you set it up right )
[00:46] <Cyberspaceloa> I have to away for a while elisa87, I hoped that helped somewhat
[00:46] <zykotick9> awc737: mint = ubuntu + less stable + smaller developer pool (mint = 1 person basically).  good luck.
[00:46] <choct155> Afraid my 12.04 LTS still does not boot consistently on my ASUS U46E.  I have tried updating GRUB, fixing broken packages in recovery mode (which is just as unreliable as the normal boot), and editing the boot script to include the NOMODESET option.  Any other remedies?  (Intel® Core™ i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz × 4; VESA: Intel®Sandybridge Mobile Graphics)
[00:46] <sssilver__> Hey muelli, I just replaced my genius with a compaq mouse, and the title in xinput remained the same.
[00:47] <sssilver__> muelli: I guess that means that the KYE thing might not really have been my mouse, hn?
[00:47] <BrendenT> I'm still trying to figure out if there's anyway to get 404 errors to go away when using apt-get
[00:47] <BarkingFish> thanks for the help bobweaver and dr_willis - i'm solo kde now. I thought GDM would be nice to have on, but it cross pollutes the KDM workspace - things which are gnome only turn up in here, and I didn't want that :)
[00:47] <muelli> hm sssilver__: interesting data point indeed
[00:47] <sssilver__> muelli: I replaced the mouse with the one that is tested and restarted the PC
[00:47] <zykotick9> BrendenT: 404 from "sudo apt-get update" ?  i assume.
[00:47] <dr_willis> BarkingFish:  i mixx up kde and gnome all the time. theres just to many good apps on each one to limit myself to one or the other.
[00:48] <BrendenT> zykotick9: yes, those too, but from install MySQL also
[00:48] <awc737_> this is the same fucking problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980690
[00:48] <muelli> sssilver__: Yeah, Linux might indeed not have recognized your mouse. Quite.. uncommon though. Have you double and triple checked that you've got everything enabled in the BIOS?
[00:48] <Detroit_Hell_Ya>  hi can some one help me with vpn i setup pptv
[00:48] <BarkingFish> dr_willis, the prob I had is a particular gnome app which I wanted working, which doesn't work any longer.  It stopped around the time pulseaudio came in - and I'll be hanged if I can fix it.
[00:48] <zykotick9> BrendenT: are you using repos outside of ubuntu's defaults?
[00:48] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> hi can some one help me with vpn i setup pptv
[00:48] <muelli> !anyone | Detroit_Hell_Ya
[00:49] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> i can connect to server but i can not go outside of the server
[00:49] <awc737_>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980690 Does anyone have a suggestion other than ths first wild guess response?
[00:49] <BrendenT> zykotick9: probably, forgot to mention I'm on an Amazon ECC instance...
[00:49] <BarkingFish> awc737_, Please keep your language down in here.  This is a family friendly channel and we do not appreciate the use of swearing.  Anymore, and it goes to the ops.
[00:49] <muelli> Detroit_Hell_Ya: can you pastebin us "route -n"?
[00:49] <zykotick9> BrendenT: good luck.  don't reply to me further - i won't see it.
[00:49] <awc737_>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980690 Does anyone have a suggestion other than ths first wild guess response?
[00:50] <BrendenT> hmm, ok...
[00:50] <sssilver__> muelli: it might be that my usb keyboard is hindering my ps/2 mouse. Lemme unplug the keyboard and reboot
[00:50] <muelli> sssilver__: even more unlikely. But well, give it a shot
[00:51] <zykotick9> awc737_: see "/msg ubottu here" for a hint
[00:51] <muelli> sssilver__: I would download a Fedora CD and try to boot that.
[00:51] <dr_willis> awc737_:  if tasksel did some how remove desktop packages, then installing  the whatever-desktop package should get the system going again.
[00:51] <muelli> sssilver__: maybe even something ancient. A very old Ubuntu.
[00:51] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> zykotick9
[00:51] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> where do i paste this
[00:51] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> !pastbin
[00:51] <dj_ryan> any one can give me a hint on how to configure xinerama triple-head using intel and radeon cards?
[00:51] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> ~pastebin
[00:51] <muelli> !pastebin | Detroit_Hell_Ya
[00:52] <zykotick9> Detroit_Hell_Ya: paste what i don't remember talking to you?  see "/msg ubottu paste" for pastebin details.
[00:52] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257142/
[00:53] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> muelli
[00:53] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257142/
[00:53] <zykotick9> Detroit_Hell_Ya: route - i was NOT talking with you.  good luck.  i'm useless at those types of networking questions, i use a home router for firewall/dhcp etc.
[00:53] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> sorry i confused with u muelli
[00:54] <zykotick9> Detroit_Hell_Ya: see "/msg ubottu u" i hate the "abreviation"
[00:55] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> lol
[00:55] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> muelli am i doing anything wrong
[00:55] <zykotick9> Detroit_Hell_Ya: see "/msg ubottu lol" ;) just joking!
[00:56] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> :)
[00:56] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> got the connection establish with the server
[00:56] <zykotick9> Detroit_Hell_Ya: wish i could help you but i can't.  good luck.
[00:56] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> but i can not access any other website using pptp vpn ser
[00:57] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> any one else good at
[00:58] <muelli> Detroit_Hell_Ya: hm. how do you know that you "can not access any other website"?
[01:00] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> i try
[01:00] <ActionPa1snip> Detroit_Hell_Ya: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[01:01] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> let me
[01:01] <muelli> ... and then what...? Sorry dude, my crystal ball is dirty at the moment and I am not able to clean it up.. So please give us deatils
[01:01] <muelli> details even
[01:02] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> ActionPa1snip does it matter like my server is on public ip
[01:02] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> and for remote ip is privat ips
[01:02] <ActionPa1snip> Detroit_Hell_Ya: should be fine
[01:02] <elisa87> Cyberspaceloa do you know how can I test my own video in bigger resolution? not that small window?
[01:03] <spaceneedle> Ubuntu 12.10 will not boot from a usb stick on my dell d610. Adding nomodeset doesn't work--I got a kernel panic--not syncing:attempted to kill init! error.
[01:03] <Dice-Man> i'm addicted to ubuntu
[01:03] <Dice-Man> how to solve it
[01:04] <muelli> spaceneedle: that's probably something for #ubuntu+1
[01:04] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> ActionPa1snip when i ping 8.8.8.8 i get request time out
[01:04] <Froward> have you tried listening to heroin and shooting Yellow Submarine into your veins
[01:04] <jrib> Dice-Man: find a new addiction (in #ubuntu-offtopic though)
[01:04] <spaceneedle> Xubuntu 12.10 won't boot either.
[01:04] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> 100% loss
[01:05] <muelli> Detroit_Hell_Ya: well. can you do that when you are not connected to the VPN..?
[01:05] <WeThePeople> how do i turn off notifications?
[01:05] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> yes
[01:05] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> i can do that
[01:05] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: I use luvcview for just regular non-networked cam stuff, and I've liked it
[01:06] <WeThePeople> in lucid
[01:06] <Cyberspaceloa> elisa87: as far as the small video window in skype, I was just googling that and it seems like a "feature"
[01:07] <muelli> Detroit_Hell_Ya: please disconnect your VPN, pastebin "route -n" followed by "host ubuntu.com"
[01:07] <Silivrenion> I'm having a problem that's stumping me, and I don't know the answer. Often randomly, the nm-applet disappears, although the service continues to run. I have to manually restart nm-applet all the time. This started a week ago or so. When starting nm-applet manually from terminal, it says it has been removed from the notification area
[01:07] <Detroit_Hell_Ya> muelli http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257163/
[01:08] <zykotick9> Silivrenion: have you searched launchpad for similar bugs?  that's where i'd start.
[01:09] <Silivrenion> everything I saw was kind of older.. for this to appear all of a sudden must be recent.. but alas, I have not searched well for similar bugs
[01:09] <rada> hola
[01:09] <zykotick9> Silivrenion: if you don't find one, report one ;)
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> Silivrenion, 12.04?
[01:10] <Silivrenion> should nm-applet report that it's been removed from the notification area when you start it manually? it appears, seems silly
[01:10] <Silivrenion> wilee-nilee, yes
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> Silivrenion, desktop?
[01:11] <Silivrenion> yes
[01:11] <Silivrenion> well, desktop version. this is a netbook
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> hehe which one these are important details for all Silivrenion
[01:11] <LucidGuy> Is it safe to say I should avoid purchasing a laptop that utilizes nVidia optimus tech?  Going to use the laptop primarily with Linux.
[01:11] <Silivrenion> acer aspire one 532h
[01:11] <zykotick9> Silivrenion: a favour, could you read "/msg ubottu who" and "/msg ubottu enter" for me(/us)
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> Silivrenion, unity, lubuntu, kubuntu, which one
[01:12] <Silivrenion> wilee-nilee, unity interface. sorry
[01:12] <Froward> I have followed the instructions on https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable but when I type "hexchat" into the software center searchbox, it doesn't find Hexchat! how do I make this repository thing work?
[01:13] <trism> Froward: did you run: sudo apt-get update; after adding the ppa?
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> Silivrenion, cool that stuff is important to include, hopefully someone may know, sounds like bug report possibly, if there is no precursor to this IE you tweaking something in the nm or on the desktop
[01:14] <mgodzilla> wilee-nilee: switched to lxde...so much happier.
[01:14] <Froward> trism: Yes, and I have just run it a third time :)
[01:14] <trism> Froward: which ubuntu version?
[01:14] <Silivrenion> wilee-nilee, nothing got tweaked, it just seems odd. I'm trying to figure out if there's commandline options for nm-applet, but there's no help interface in the term
[01:14] <mgodzilla> you probably don't remember our conversation...but it's workin' out for me :)
[01:15] <trism> Froward: and how about a: sudo apt-get install hexchat; ?
[01:15] <chris92> Froward: just try "sudo apt-get install hexchat"
[01:16] <zykotick9> !info hexchat | trism ???
[01:16] <Ethic> I'm attempting to upgrade Ubuntu from 10.04 & getting a ""No valid mirror found" error, could anyone assist please: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EtCcRETH
[01:16] <chris92> zykotick9: he did add the ppa
[01:17] <Froward> trism, chris92: It's Doing Things! I don't know if it's going to keep itself updated in the PPA, though
[01:17] <Froward> and it runs now!
[01:17] <ratcheer> mgodzilla: I use LXDE on almost everything.
[01:17] <Froward> Thnx :)
[01:17] <trism> Froward: it will
[01:17] <WindBuntu> is 10.04 up to date?
[01:17] <chris92> Froward: if gwendal updates his PPA, it should
[01:17] <trism> Froward: assuming the ppa ever updates
[01:17] <phong_> does anyone know xml  stuff?
[01:17] <phong_> basic xml stuff
[01:17] <Kvothe_> is there anyway to dd the content of a .iso to a hard disk and boot it with grub or something?
[01:17] <dr_willis> WindBuntu:  10.04 is 2 yrs old. there have been security updates..
[01:17] <MonkeyDust> WindBuntu  almost out of date
[01:18] <dr_willis> !10.04
[01:18] <dr_willis> WindBuntu:  if doing a new install. i would find it hard to justify installing 10.04 on a new machine.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> WindBuntu, What is your definition of up to date? 7 monhs the desktop version will be end of life
[01:18] <ratcheer> Kvothe_: Interesting question.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> months*
[01:19] <Silivrenion> where in ubuntu is the startup configuration that starts nm-applet? it's not in the startup applications, apparently
[01:19] <phong_> anyone know how to convert sample into xml format ?  http://tinypic.com/r/vxygds/6
[01:19] <phong_> thanks
[01:19] <chris92> Kvothe_: if you have a flash drive (like an usb stick) you could use the .iso to generate a live usb stick
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Kvothe_, you can boot a ISO with grub
[01:19] <dr_willis> Silivrenion:  theres  a system wide 'startup' directory i recall. but i forget its name.
[01:20] <dr_willis> Silivrenion:  check    /etc/xdg/autostart
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Kvothe_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[01:20] <phong_> how would you convert this into .xml file http://tinypic.com/r/vxygds/6
[01:21] <Kvothe_> thx
[01:21] <zykotick9> dr_willis: <sorry for PM but> /etc/xdg/autostart/ just lead me to my 1st .desktop file in debian squeeze polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop
[01:22] <zykotick9> lol PM fail
[01:22] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  mine here has like 2 dozen differnt supporttool.desktop files
[01:22] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  but i am on 12.10 :) i keep forgetting that.. and i do have about every desktop installed that exists... ;P
[01:22] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i still don't have multi-arch ;)
[01:23] <phong_> do you guys know xml at all ?
[01:23] <dr_willis> phong_:  its a markup language.. :)
[01:23] <dr_willis> eXtendable Markup Language (if i rember my readings)
[01:23] <MonkeyDust> phong_  libreoffice Write has 'save as xml'
[01:24] <phong_> well....show me what would this be in xml file ? http://tinypic.com/r/vxygds/6
[01:24] <dr_willis> pandoc - general markup converter
[01:24] <MonkeyDust> phong_  better ask in #libreoffice
[01:24] <dr_willis> odt2txt - simple converter from OpenDocument Text to plain text
[01:25] <phong_> dr_willis, dude, did u see my image? http://tinypic.com/r/vxygds/6
[01:25] <dr_willis> phong_:  nope.. not going to look either.. since i dont use xml in any real way.
[01:25] <Skapare> is there an equivalent option to --yes for dpkg?
[01:25] <dr_willis> and last time some one posted an image for me to look at.. welll.. the grandson had some.. questions.....
[01:26] <dr_willis> night all.. bed time.
[01:26] <muelli> Detroit_Hell_Ya: and the host command..?
[01:27] <zykotick9> Skapare: i hope not.  but i'm sure there is.  have you checked "man dpkg" for yes?  use / to search.
[01:27] <Skapare> I did, and searched, and found nothing
[01:27] <Skapare> I am trying to remove grub in an automated script ... it puts up a prompt asking if I am sure ... how can I force it to just do it? ... the command I am doing is:
[01:27] <Skapare> dpkg --purge grub-common grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-legacy-ec2 grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
[01:28] <zykotick9> Skapare: good luck ;)  <i'm no help>
[01:30] <Skapare> they should never have allowed user prompting in dpkg ... or at least provide an option:  --do-not-prompt-because-no-user-is-there
[01:30] <FlipShaw> Skapare: pass it with a --force=all command
[01:30] <Skapare> OK, I'll go try that now
[01:31] <FlipShaw> Skapare: sorry, not = use force-all
[01:31] <zykotick9> Skapare: installing packages is something an admin "should" be there for.... just sayin'
[01:31] <Skapare> dpkg: error: unknown option --force=all
[01:32] <FlipShaw> Skapare: sorry, I meant --force-all, not =all
[01:32] <Skapare> zykotick9: I'm UNinstalling ... and it's part of an automated build process I'm putting together for cloud based operation ... so no one can be there
[01:33] <Skapare> FlipShaw: the prompt still comes up
[01:33] <dj_ryan> I'm trying to configure Xorg via xorg.conf, and xinerama, and i cant seem to get my intel built in graphics to not-mirror
[01:33] <dj_ryan> cant use xrandr due to xinerama, and now im sad
[01:33] <zykotick9> Skapare: fyi, i'm failing to find a dpkg auto-install option in the man page.  i'm totally vindicated by my "hope not, but assume there is..." statement earlier.  if it's true - and i still doubt it.
[01:34] <zykotick9> Skapare: cloud = fog, lame...
[01:34] <Skapare> zykotick9: well AWS
[01:34] <FlipShaw> Skapare: THat's the only thing I could think of to stop the prompt
[01:35] <zykotick9> Skapare: best of luck with ubuntu.  <don't bother replying to me, i won't see it>
[01:35] <Skapare> FlipShaw: it is asking about grub files in /boot/grub ... which apparently were put there as part of grub doing the install, as opposed to the package install
[01:36] <phong_> i got it
[01:36]  * Skapare wonders what zykotick9's remark means
[01:36] <FlipShaw> Skapare: I'm not sure about all that than
[01:36] <Skapare> FlipShaw: so I'm thinking maybe if I just wipe off /boot/grub first, maybe it won't ask
[01:37] <Skapare> the /boot/grub files are not part of the debian package system install ... they are added when the grub programs do their install thing
[01:37] <FlipShaw> Skapare: Sounds like a resonable theory
[01:37] <WeThePeople> l3top, you around
[01:37] <Skapare> so if they are absent, maybe it will think it hasn't installed them
[01:38] <Skapare> I gotta re-launch my test instance to test this idea ... because grub was uninstalled with these commands I did
[01:40] <postmodern> does ubuntu have a directory similar to redhat's /etc/sysconfig ?
[01:41] <L3top> WeThePeople: here
[01:41] <zykotick9> postmodern: what does redhat's /etc/sysconfig do?
[01:41] <IDWMaster> Hi.
[01:41] <IDWMaster> Is there a way in Ubuntu to use display downscaling?
[01:41] <WeThePeople> l3top, is this adequate for chroot >>> http://superuser.com/questions/111152/whats-the-proper-way-to-prepare-chroot-to-recover-a-broken-linux-installation
[01:41] <postmodern> zykotick9, it stores configuration for the /etc/init.d/ scripts
[01:42] <IDWMaster> Like the registry setting that was available for Windows?
[01:42] <IDWMaster> Is there an equivalent in Linux
[01:42] <IDWMaster> I'm using an Intel Atom processor/graphics chip
[01:42] <postmodern> zykotick9, the /etc/init.d/ scripts simply do [ -e /etc/sysconfig/redis ] && . /etc/sysconfig/redis
[01:42] <bustacap> Anyone have a weather indicator that works on 12.04? I can't get my city to add with the one in the software manager.
[01:42] <JamezQ> Hey anyone in the SF area, ubuntu hour at The Roastery going on now.
[01:42] <zykotick9> postmodern: oh.  then no.  ubuntu has 0 service management.  no joke.  see "/msg ubottu upstart" for some info...  ubuntu uses upstart not init.d!
[01:43] <L3top> WeThePeople: Yes... though a bit confusingly written... if you have questions feel free to ask.
[01:43] <WeThePeople> ok, thanks
[01:44] <postmodern> zykotick9, there seems to be plenty of init.d scripts for services, just no separation between config and functions
[01:44] <zykotick9> postmodern: it's all manual, but it can be done.  /etc/init/ (NOT /etc/init.d/0 is the KEY
[01:44] <xangua> bustacap: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available there is one called My Weather
[01:44] <zykotick9> postmodern: it's all manual, but it can be done.  /etc/init/ (NOT /etc/init.d/) is the KEY SORRY
[01:45] <L3top> WeThePeople: wait... the chroot /mnt /bin/bash hoohah is not necessary. I would avoid that.
[01:45] <bustacap> xangua, Yeah, that one didn't work either.
[01:45] <zykotick9> postmodern: rename scripts to foo.disalbed in /etc/init/
[01:45] <L3top> WeThePeople: nor do you need the /etc/resolv nonsense
[01:45] <Skapare> that theory didn't work :-(
[01:45] <WeThePeople> l3top, yeah, i am pickin out the commands i want
[01:46] <Skapare> ^^-- FlipShaw
[01:46] <L3top> WeThePeople: chances are you do not need to mount by type....
[01:46] <WeThePeople> to use
[01:46] <postmodern> zykotick9, but i am writing init.d scripts here, not upstart
[01:46] <jrib> zykotick9: that's not the best way to disable a service (see overrides in upstart's cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files )
[01:46] <zykotick9> L3top: fyi /etc/resolv.conf is deprecated 12.04+, so it is nonsense
[01:46] <postmodern> zykotick9, thanks though!
[01:46] <WeThePeople> l3top, by dev then?
[01:46] <zykotick9> postmodern: good luck.
[01:46] <postmodern> zykotick9, btw would you be interested in reviewing the script?
[01:48] <bustacap> xangua, Newest version is available here, just found it and it's working. The repository installs an old version: https://launchpad.net/~weather-indicator-team/+archive/ppa/+build/3690342
[01:48] <bustacap> xangua, Just incase anyone else asks, cause I've seen a lot of people complaining about not being able to add their cities recently.
[01:49] <L3top> WeThePeople: in short... the mounting is correct... then just chroot the root of where it is mounted... and run the grub-install /dev/sda     and update-grub
[01:52] <L3top> WeThePeople: on the dvd you can run sudo -i, and all commands you issue will be as root
[01:52] <L3top> WeThePeople: this will be necessary to chroot
[01:52] <WeThePeople> ok
[01:52] <xangua> bustacap: well i had no issues with indicator-weather since i installed precice
[01:53] <bustacap> xangua, I didn't either but I wiped my hard disk and reinstalled both windows and ubuntu again and for some reason couldn't add a city in indicator-weather after that.
[01:53] <bustacap> xangua, So far thats my only bug :P
[01:54] <xangua> i just added a couple of locations
[01:54] <bustacap> xangua, You're just lucky like my original ubuntu installation then :P
[01:54] <bustacap> Maybe it has to do with some sort of package that the indicator needs that it doesn't download?
[01:55] <bustacap> That on my old installation I had because I had so much crap on it?
[01:55] <FlipShaw> Skapare: Damn, GRUB is a tough nut to crack for anything, I always have problems with it
[01:55] <bustacap> FlipShaw, I like BURG o.O
[01:55] <hmmwhatsthisdo> BURG is nice
[01:56] <bustacap> Nothing like a pretty boot logo :P
[01:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo> though, my graphics card doesn't have the proper framebuffer modes for it so it looks bloated on my screen
[01:56] <bustacap> hmmwhatsthisdo, How is that possible? How bad is your graphics card lol.
[01:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's an integrated Intel gfx card
[01:56] <bustacap> Oh, well there's your problem.
[01:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the VESA modes it supplies are 640, 800, and 1024
[01:57] <bustacap> If it were integrated nvidia you'd be fine :P
[01:57] <hmmwhatsthisdo> my laptop's screen is 1366x768
[01:57] <bustacap> One of the themes for burg is an extended version, I believe it's called sora.
[01:57] <bustacap> Did you try that theme?
[01:57] <zykotick9> jrib: i'd quasi-agree with you after reviewing the evidence, BUT the first suggestions after "disabling a job from automatically starting" is still --- "Rename the job configuration file such that it does not end with ".conf"."
[02:00] <zykotick9> jrib: WHY can't ubuntu have a GUI to do this?  </OT>
[02:00] <Smashcat> Anyone know of a program I can install in 12.04 so I can easily add programs to the launcher bar? Ridiculous that I can't just drag and drop them onto it!
[02:01] <bustacap> Was there an update that fixed the full screen flash video's for dual monitors within the past 2 day? Because my youtube can independently go fullscreen on either monitor I choose now.
[02:01] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: report a bug...
[02:04] <L3top> hmmwhatsthisdo: vesa is a sort of swiss army knife for all GPUs... it is a limited toolset. It does only what it does. What is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:04] <xangua> bustacap: as far as i know flash is no loger supported on linux and so there are no longer updates for it, unles you use Google Chrome
[02:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> that would require me getting my laptop out
[02:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> hang on
[02:05] <Smashcat> Shame that Flash is not getting support - it's still a hell of a lot faster and more flexible thanhtml5 for a lot of things
[02:05] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: reporting a bug.  something i've done numberous times (including some "critical" bugs) is useless ;)  ubuntu bugs die with ubuntu, they don't typically flow upstream... :(
[02:05] <dylan> I keep getting "Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0"
[02:05] <dylan> I have tried everything I can find  on the internet to fix it
[02:05] <dylan> nothing is working
[02:06] <dylan> please please please help
[02:06] <L3top> xangua: that is not exactly correct... there are security updates... it simply will no longer be moved forward... however for the most part linux HAS been abandoned... because... it just doesn't work that well and they do not feel linux is a market which they feel justifies the cost... sadly.
[02:06] <muelli> !details | dylan
[02:06] <dylan> I tried to run apt-get install
[02:06] <dylan> and it gave me the error
[02:06] <dylan> I have precise pangolin
[02:07] <dylan> apt-get install ANYTHING gives the error
[02:07] <chris92> dylan, did you try "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE"
[02:07] <dylan> yep
[02:07] <dylan> same result
[02:07] <L3top> dylan: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:07] <muelli> well dylan. What happened to your system then?
[02:07] <dylan> no clue
[02:07] <excelsior> ok, I was gonna bug the channel with a tomboy note error, but I deleted the files that were mentioned in the load errors when loading through a terminal, and now it's coming up fine. You can't do that with Windows, can you. I hate Bill Gates so much.
[02:08] <Froward> what the heck is ubuntu 12.04 LTS? is it just another name for 12.04 or is it different?
[02:08] <L3top> !lts
[02:08] <chris92> Froward: LTS means Long-Term-Support
[02:08] <dylan> L3top: http://pastebin.com/d9ZjMcBr
[02:08] <bustacap> xangua, yeah, I use chrome, but on my last installation I couldn't go fullscreen with youtube videos without it spreading across both monitors.
[02:08] <bustacap> Now it works perfectly.
[02:09] <muelli> uff dylan. well. What did you do to your system then? I mean *something* must have happened..
[02:09] <bustacap> Making my reformat definitely worth it :P
[02:09] <L3top> dylan this is typically because of a PPA... does ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d produce a result?
[02:09] <dylan> I habe NO idea
[02:09] <muelli> dylan: fair enough. What did you do then..?
[02:09] <dylan> L3top: google-chrome.list  google-chrome.list.save  local-repository.list  local-repository.list.save
[02:10] <L3top> dylan: for the time being, please move the contents of that folder somewhere else, and run apt-get update
[02:10] <bustacap> What is local-repository.list o.O
[02:11] <L3top> dylan: then please run dpkg --configure -a again, and follow with apt-get -f install
[02:11] <L3top> dylan: sorry, run both as sudo
[02:11] <bustacap> dylan, dont forget sudo in front of apt-get update o.O
[02:11] <bustacap> Lol L3top
[02:14] <dylan> k, sudo apt-get update is running
[02:14] <Froward> L3top, chris92: thanks :D
[02:14] <chris92> Froward: np
[02:14] <dylan> L3pot: same error as before when I ran dpkg
[02:15] <dylan> L3pot:http://pastebin.com/d9ZjMcBr
[02:15] <L3top> and sudo apt-get -f install
[02:16] <dylan> that also gave the same output as last time "E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[02:16] <muelli> dylan: is there any reason you need the i386 version of libssl? You are running on 64bit right? I would remove the i386 version. apt-get purge libssl:i386 or so. Or dpkg --purge or so.
[02:16] <L3top> dylan: ok... I see what is happening
[02:16] <muelli> k. better follow L3top.
[02:16] <dylan> k
[02:16] <dylan> waiting on L3top
[02:17] <dylan> however
[02:17] <muelli> dylan: But you did mess with your sources.list!
[02:17] <zykotick9> L3top: fyi apt does not support downgrading in any way, so simply removing the source will not downgrade the package (this is why ppa-purge is important).
[02:17] <dylan> last time he tried to get me to modify /sys
[02:18] <L3top> dylan: you have an amd64 install of a package and something wants the i386 version...
[02:18] <muelli> yeah, it's likely the chrome thing
[02:18] <L3top> zykotick9: I know... but I think this is a cross version issue
[02:18] <L3top> without much doubt...
[02:18] <dylan> can I just nix chrome?
[02:18] <dylan> I dont use it
[02:18] <muelli> yeah!
[02:18] <dylan> what would the command be to dump it?
[02:19] <L3top> dylan what you SHOULD do, is move the files back to /etc/apt/sources.list.d and then...
[02:19] <L3top> !ppa-purge | dylan
[02:20] <muelli> dylan: and learn from that. Do not mess with these system things.
[02:20] <dylan> I have no idea what ppa is....
[02:20] <RxDx> whats the best way to install eclipse on Ubuntu? Downloading from the website or from ubuntu repository?
[02:20] <dylan> also
[02:20] <dylan> the sources files won't go back into the folder....
[02:21] <dylan> permission denied....
[02:21] <L3top> Personal Package Archive
[02:21] <L3top> sudo
[02:21] <L3top> !ppa | dylan
[02:21] <dylan> k the pacakges are back
[02:22] <SoulShadow> anyone ever try to chmod -x chmod?
[02:22] <taskb4r> try it
[02:22] <taskb4r> what does it do?
[02:22] <dylan> DAMMIT
[02:22] <dylan> sorry
[02:22] <SoulShadow> i'd rather not lol
[02:22] <dylan> I can;t install ppa purge because of libssl
[02:22] <dylan> great
[02:22] <L3top> no worries...
[02:22] <taskb4r> ill try it in a vm when i get the chance
[02:22] <dylan> hang on
[02:22] <taskb4r> dont think it will do anything
[02:22] <dylan> this error is slightly diggerent
[02:22] <dylan> different
[02:23] <muelli> well dylan. I would try to dpkg --purge libssl:i386
[02:23] <dylan> http://pastebin.com/xegmhrff
[02:23] <taskb4r> wait... isn't chmod already marked as a executable.
[02:23] <L3top> dylan: sudo apt-get remove libssl and see the things it will take away with it before agreeing
[02:23] <SoulShadow> minus x
[02:23] <SoulShadow> not plus x
[02:23] <SoulShadow> removing executable from it
[02:23] <taskb4r> oh.
[02:23] <taskb4r> fuck
[02:23] <dylan> wont let me
[02:24] <dylan> something about unmet dependencies
[02:24] <IdleOne> taskb4r: no swearing in here please
[02:24] <dylan> it says it's a virtual package...
[02:24] <muelli> also dylan, pastebin us apt-cache policy libssl:i386 libssl:amd64
[02:24] <muelli> libssl1.0.0:i386 rather
[02:24] <dylan> remember the last time we tried to modify virtual things L3pot?
[02:24] <taskb4r> oh, no didn't know about swearing
[02:24] <L3top> urg. ok dylan you are in ugly territory. I am going to recommend something that is not typically used. I need the list of depends
[02:25] <dylan> how do I get it?
[02:25] <L3top> that command should have given you a list dylan
[02:25] <dylan> which command?
[02:25] <muelli> nah. L3top. you recommended removing the entire libssl. That's bad of course. Because virtually everything depends on it. better remove libssl:i386 only
[02:26] <L3top> muelli: I believe that will require dpkg -r --ignore-depends with a list
[02:26] <L3top> but try it dylan
[02:26] <dylan> L3top" results of that policy thingy
[02:26] <dylan> http://pastebin.com/4Xp8X5YG
[02:26] <taskb4r> has anyone here tried xmonad before. looks pretty cool.
[02:27] <taskb4r> i hate using my mouse
[02:27] <L3top> I believe he has the 64 bit installed and cannot use it muelli
[02:27] <muelli> L3top: yes. because the i386 from the chrome repo is older than the 64bit one.
[02:27] <muelli> dylan: apt-get purge libssl:i386
[02:28] <muelli> (if that works)
[02:28] <muelli> otherwise plain dpkg
[02:28] <L3top> muelli: see his post... policy indicates it does not exist
[02:28] <dylan> didn;t work
[02:28] <dylan> what about dpkg?
[02:28] <muelli> L3top: nah. because libssl is not a package. Rather libssl.0.0.0
[02:28] <nkls_> can compiz work with DefaultDepth 16?
[02:28] <L3top> I see..
[02:28] <L3top> sorry... just reread
[02:28] <dylan> muelli: what I am doing iwth dpkg
[02:29] <muelli> dylan: "Didn't work" is not good. What is the full outpuot?
[02:29] <edgy> Hi, I am reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword, why not just single?
[02:29] <L3top> dylan: to use the dpkg force remove we need a HUGE list of depends to ignore... he is trying to spare you that. Ignore it for now
[02:30] <nkls_> can compiz work with DefaultDepth 16 instead of 24 i have flickering white watching movies?
[02:30] <L3top> Hi edgy. I personally do not follow random "this broke" links... please give a brief synopsis of what you were trying to do, how, and what went wrong.
[02:31] <muelli> dylan: What's the full output of apt-get purge libssl:i386 ?
[02:31] <edgy> L3top: I just want to understand what's the use of init=/bin/bash as a kernel parameter
[02:32] <L3top> edgy: It should not be necessary, but instead as part of the PATH
[02:32] <dylan> muelli: http://pastebin.com/F41XDrSY
[02:32] <nkls_> can compiz work with defaulddepth 16 instead of 24? i have flickering while watching movies.
[02:32] <muelli> dylan: apt-get purge libssl1.0.0:i386
[02:33] <edgy> L3top: sorrry I didn't understand you, there are lots of books and docs that tell you to troubleshoot booting issues by editing grub and use init=/bin/bash
[02:33] <L3top> easy peasy... you got it muelli
[02:33] <dylan> muelli: http://pastebin.com/S5D3Rm6x
[02:33] <muelli> edgy: what's not to understand? It will be the very first thing the kernel executes. A plain shell.
[02:34] <L3top> edgy: I need to know the issue you think fixes this. I need the source problem.
[02:35] <muelli> dylan: Hm. Okay. That's interesting. If you would line up all the packages that you encounter on the way, you'd be fine. But that's too much manual work ;-)
[02:35] <L3top> s/fixes this/this fixes/
[02:35] <emeka88> Pls recommend an ebook for learning open source contribution for me
[02:35] <muelli> dylan: Can you give us apt-cache policy aptitude?
[02:35] <muelli> dylan: if you have it installed, you might want to consider installing ppa-purge directly from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ppa-purge using dpkg
[02:35] <L3top> nice muelli
[02:36] <muelli> emeka88:  http://open-advice.org/
[02:36] <dylan> http://pastebin.com/ub5Sy6xk
[02:36] <muelli> dylan: you're good to go
[02:36] <dylan> with what
[02:37] <muelli> dylan: wget http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/p/ppa-purge/ppa-purge_0.2.8+bzr56_all.deb; dpkg -i ppa-purge*.deb
[02:37] <edgy> muelli, L3top: I don't have a problem myself, but e.g I read on the link I pasted before that if you lost your password you can use this init=/bin/bash trick to get a shell to recover the password, I used to do this with passing single, so I wondered what's the difference?
[02:38] <dylan> muelli: http://pastebin.com/amvw8FYK
[02:38] <muelli> edgy: the kernel doesn't understand "single". That's for the boot magic, Debian includes. It might very well decide to prompt for a root password before giving you access. init= circumvents that by telling the kernel to run it (i.e. bash) straight away
[02:38] <L3top> edgy: I would guess that it launches bash as root... that would be the only way that worked... so bash would execute every command as root and as such you could change the pw... but... that seems sort of unlikely imo.
[02:38] <muelli> dylan: What does "dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege" tell you?
[02:38] <dylan> I used sudo
[02:38] <dylan> you can see that at the top
[02:39] <muelli> dylan: no.
[02:39] <dylan> yes I did...
[02:39] <emeka88> Muelli: thanks. Checking d link now
[02:39] <muelli> dylan: no. the semicolon separates commands. sudo dpkg -i ppa-purge*.deb
[02:39] <edgy> muelli, L3top; can you please hango on a bit so I reboot and try it?
[02:40] <dylan> I have never been more glad to see "processing triggers for man-db"
[02:40] <dylan> now what
[02:40] <L3top> I am not going to help you root random installs... no. Nor do I believe it will work without a root pw on its face.
[02:41] <L3top> However there is an easy way to do it
[02:41] <L3top> :P
[02:41] <muelli> dylan: again: what's the full output.
[02:42] <dylan> muelli: http://pastebin.com/y5JsnSVL
[02:42] <muelli> L3top: I don't know ppa-purge, but dylan's got it installed now. want to take over?
[02:42] <L3top> dylan: for the record... the praise goes to muelli... I was gonna walk you through a dangerous and painful fix.
[02:43] <muelli> dylan: again: do not mess with your sources.list >.< Especially not if you don't know how to get rid of it...
[02:43] <L3top> If you have to scat, absolutely. Thanks muelli.
[02:43] <dylan> I don't remember messing with it...
[02:43] <L3top> dylan: at some point you added a (wrong) chrome ppa...
[02:43] <dylan> hmmm
[02:43] <L3top> that is messing with it
[02:43] <dylan> must have been a long tmie ago
[02:43] <dylan> anyway, what do I do now?
[02:44] <dylan> not that ppa purge is installed
[02:44] <Fernest> Does one know how to update gnome-shell 3.4.1 to the current 3.6 version on Ubuntu 12.04? (Tried the link on the gnome site and tried to upgrade it via apt-get, but after a reboot, I still have gnome-shell 3.4.1)
[02:44] <muelli> Fernest: there is a GNOME PPA
[02:44] <muelli> anyway, gtg. good luck guys.
[02:44] <Fernest> so if I update with the normal ppa, it will always get 3.4.1?
[02:45] <dylan> L3top: what do I do now that I have ppa-purge installed?
[02:45] <ActionPa1snip> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=gnome-shell
[02:45] <L3top> !info gnome-shell
[02:45] <L3top> you dont need a ppa Fernest
[02:47] <L3top> Fernest: it is in repo. sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell            will get you what you need
[02:47] <Fernest> but I need the 3.6 version
[02:47] <L3top> Fernest: presuming you are on precise
[02:47] <Fernest> yes I am
[02:47] <L3top> Downgrading is not supported here I dont think Fernest
[02:48] <Fernest> wait, what?  I thought the 3.6 version is higher than 3.4.1?
[02:49] <dylan> L3top: what do I do with this ppa-purge thingy?
[02:50] <L3top> dylan: I don't actually know... I don't use ppas and I gave you the bot link... lol.
[02:50] <L3top> !ppa-purge
[02:50] <dylan> ugh....
[02:50] <dylan> I have no idea what that means
[02:51] <dylan> so a .list file is a ppa?
[02:51] <L3top> no...
[02:51] <dylan> oh
[02:51] <dylan> well
[02:51] <L3top> !ppa
[02:51] <dylan> then I am more confused than I was earlier
[02:51] <dylan> I will just wait
[02:51] <L3top> each ppa will explain what its repo path looks like... and based on the content of that folder... you can work that out dylan.
[02:52] <pmp6nl> Hello, how do I open an app in 12.04 -- not via dash since that does not work
[02:52] <Cyberspaceloa> dylan: a .list file describes to apt where to find a PPA
[02:52] <Cyberspaceloa> dylan: the PPA itself is hosted remotely
[02:52] <L3top> It is not one of those things that will just go away dylan... and also a great thing to understand. Just... work it out.
[02:53] <L3top> pmp6nl: depends on the app... give more detail please
[02:54] <pmp6nl> Hi L3top  when I try to open an app via dash it simply doesnt not work.  Searching for terminal - nothing appears.
[02:54] <airshock> Hi all, trying to compile PHP 5.3.17 from source on Ubuntu Server 12.04 x64, getting this error during make, not sure how to fix this: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[02:55] <L3top> AN app or ANY app pmp6nl
[02:55] <L3top> airshock: why cant you use the repo version?
[02:55] <pmp6nl> L3top, any app.  No app can be opened via the dash.
[02:55] <digadvan> anyone using wordpress?
[02:55] <L3top> pmp6nl: you have a bigger problem... how old is this install?
[02:56] <pmp6nl> april L3top
[02:56] <L3top> pmp6nl: what changed? Is this a new user?
[02:56] <airshock> L3top: because I usually build HTPD and PHP from sources. Have no trouble building PHP 5.4.7 on same machine, but PHP 5.3.17 throws that error.
[02:56] <alexi5> do any of you guys know of any laptops that are compatible with  ubuntu ?
[02:56] <WeThePeople> airshock, https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=48795&edit=1
[02:56] <pmp6nl> L3top, nope not a new user.  Perhaps a dash upgrade
[02:56] <Fernest> ok, I am confused with this. Could one explain it to me on a step by step basis? (Like "add gnome ppa" (which I did), "upgrade" (which I did), "reboot" (which I did)) Whatever I do gnome stays at version 3.4.1
[02:57] <Fernest> (the ppa I add was ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 (was it right?))
[02:57] <trism> Fernest: the gnome ppa doesn't have 3.6 builds for precise, only quantal
[02:57] <trism> Fernest: so if you want 3.6, use 12.10
[02:57] <Fernest> hm
[02:57] <Fernest> should I go to 12.10?
[02:58] <Fernest> (Is it stable and stuff?)
[02:58] <L3top> airshock: what you want to do is outside of normal support... Chances are it is because you are downgrading... and chances are that is why it isnt supported.
[02:58] <bazhang> !12.10 | Fernest
[02:58] <airshock> WeThePeople: that bug you linked me to is for Mac OS X, but I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 x64
[02:58] <L3top> pmp6nl: I need media... give me a moment to select
[02:58] <bazhang> Fernest, /join #ubuntu+1
[02:59] <nkls> someone want to tell me: compiz can work with 16bit or not?
[02:59] <Fernest> so am I getting this right: gnome 3.6 is out, but not for the Ubuntu, which is out. But I could only use it with a future version? (wtf?)
[03:00] <airshock> L3top: is there another way I can run PHP 5.3 on my machine then? I'd normally just use 5.4 since I can build it from source with no problems but I need 5.3 to run FreePBX.
[03:00] <OerHeks> !wtf
[03:00] <bazhang> nkls, try asking in #compiz
[03:00] <L3top> nkls: I would expect thouroughly no.
[03:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, I just tried to boot into my ubuntu install and all i get is a busybox session with no /home partition
[03:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> what on earth has happened
[03:00] <nkls> bazhang, and L3top thanks :(
[03:01] <L3top> airshock: downgrading causes all manner of issues. What do you use this system for? Feel free to pm.
[03:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have changed hardware significantly since last time i booted linux but windows was fine with it
[03:01] <b1tgl0w> In libreoffice writer, when I try to insert a math forumla, it shows a broken image after I click the "writing pane" when inserting a formula object. (I tried #libreoffice, no response). The formula shows just fine until I click the writing pane
[03:01]  * L3top lols at bad acronym explaining bad acronym
[03:02] <airshock> L3top: right now just using it as a backup destination for the data on my main system, as well as to run Asterisk and FreePBX (which due to a bug requires PHP 5.3)
[03:04] <DJJeff> installed ubuntu 12.04 installed gnome-panel logged into gnome-classic and I cant move the panels? unlock the items and move them around?
[03:04] <L3top> b1tgl0w: sounds like bad math /me runs
[03:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[03:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyone got any ideas for my issue? :(
[03:05] <xangua> DJJeff: You need to keep shit+something else to move them, don't remember; tried to google something like 'move gnome panel 12.04' ¿
[03:06] <edgy> L3top: it's now clear, I booted with both single and init=/bin/bash, the first prompt me for a password, the second is not
[03:06] <unsobill> my bubuntu keep crashing with Xorg
[03:06] <unsobill> is there anything i can do about it
[03:06] <unsobill> to make this shitty OS more stable on my hardware ?
[03:07] <xangua> ooh just google that and found the post http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed DJJeff :) google is your friend...or yahoo, duck go, whatever you preffer ;)
[03:07] <edgy> L3top: just one last thing, in ubuntu they are using an argument "recovery" for the recovery entry, where is this coming from?
[03:07] <bazhang> unsobill, ubuntu? what version
[03:07] <bazhang> !version | unsobill
[03:07] <xangua> !language | unsobill
[03:07] <trism> Fernest: gnome 3.6 was released 6 days ago, 12.10 is out on the 18th, it isn't that large a gap
[03:07] <unsobill> bazhang, 12.04.1 LTS
[03:08] <awc737> what is the difference between ubuntu + xfce VS xubuntu? and which is a better option?
[03:08] <bazhang> unsobill, so what's the issue
[03:08] <airshock> Anyone know a way I can fix my PHP 5.3 error (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation) or just install 5.3 via repo somehow?
[03:08] <unsobill> to make things even worse some hidden update patched my system and created issue with Xorg causing it to crash
[03:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> awc737: xubuntu doesnt come with all the stuff ubuntu does
[03:08] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: Typically the behavior is reversed... however... I would need to know what major changes you made, from what, to what in order to try and troubleshoot... and at the end of the day... just move your /home dir off somewhere, and reinstall, and move home back.
[03:08] <awc737> so its better to go ubuntu, and install xfce
[03:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: i cant see /home
[03:08] <bazhang> unsobill, hidden update? from where
[03:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> i just have the basic busybox session with basic linux folders
[03:08] <xangua> awc737: what's the direfence between Ubuntu and XUbuntu¿ both are Ubuntu
[03:08] <Fernest> trism: yes, I know, but still: I don't get why they don't bring it out for a LTS version
[03:08] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: There is no spoon. Boot to live disk.
[03:09] <unsobill> bazhang, my ubuntu locks up every 40 something minutes
[03:09] <unsobill> bazhang, and constantly reporting issue
[03:09] <awc737> Xubuntu is giving me crazy bugs. installing LAMP w/ tasksel DELETES all my user desktop settings, and removes Ubuntu Software Center
[03:09] <ActionPa1snip> xangua: default apps :)
[03:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: :( but i had so many environments set up
[03:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> is there no wy to get it back?
[03:09] <bazhang> unsobill, what would make you suggest a "hidden update"
[03:09] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: Why do you thinnk I want you to backup home?
[03:09] <trism> Fernest: it is quite a lot of work just geting it to work with the updated packages in quantal, backporting is signficantly more
[03:10] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: because I am sitting in my chair on my skull shaped island stroking my persian cat?
[03:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: how will that help me get back all my installed programs and environments?
[03:10] <unsobill> bazhang, hidden update meaning main update that system does i assume - i have no clue why my Xorg settings got all fkedup
[03:10] <unsobill> bazhang, all suddenly
[03:10] <unsobill> bazhang, anyway what can i do to make it more stable ?
[03:10] <bazhang> unsobill, there are no hidden updates. what happened to cause the issue
[03:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: im not trying to be stupid here, i genuinely spent a lot of time getting all the stuff i watned on there, and dont want to reinstall
[03:11] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: programs are another thing. Environments will live in /home for the most part. You can just reinstall into your regular install and all non 3rd party apps will install... I mean look... it is so much more sane than windows or mac... i don't understand the complaint really...
[03:11] <awc737> is it generally recommended to install Ubuntu then install XFCE, or install Xubuntu?
[03:11] <unsobill> bazhang, i have no clue what caused the issue but i assume there's problems with xorg since i get reports of crashes and in details it has path to Xorg
[03:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> awc737: really doesnt make a lot of difference
[03:12] <edbian> How can I do dynamic range audio compression on ubuntu?
[03:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu cuts out a load of crap programs
[03:12] <awc737> WhereIsMySpoon: well i'm getting rediculous bugs
[03:12] <awc737> with xubuntu
[03:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> then use xfce
[03:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> its what i did have
[03:12] <bazhang> unsobill, pastebin all the errors please
[03:12] <bazhang> !paste | unsobill
[03:12] <unsobill> bazhang, where would i look for them
[03:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: alright ill see if i can resurrect /home
[03:12] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: I think you are used to windows reinstalls. It doesn't work that way.
[03:13] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: backing UP /home is really important.
[03:13] <bazhang> unsobill, in the reports of crashes you just told about
[03:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: ive reinstalled linux several times
[03:13] <Fernest> trism: Ok. Didn't assume it would be so much work, since I thought that gnome shell is just a front-end and thus not as integrated in the "core" of linux
[03:13] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: That is only in case something goes TERRIBLY wrong...
[03:13] <Wilson2B> So for weeks now I thought my problem was Unity / Compiz
[03:13] <Wilson2B>  Turns out it was #cairo-dock,  Bottom of screen would go blank on primary display only.
[03:13] <Wilson2B> Has anyone seen this before?
[03:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: what would i do after i back it up?
[03:14] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: I did to for many years before I realized the type of install would leave 90% of my already install untouched.
[03:14] <unsobill> bazhang, it just says "SORRY UBUNTU 12.04 HAS EXPERIENCED AN INTERANL ERROR BLABLAH"
[03:14] <L3top> s/to/too/
[03:14] <unsobill> bazhang, when i click DETAILS i see ExectuablePath /usr/binXorg
[03:14] <edbian> How can I do dynamic range audio compression on ubuntu?
[03:14] <unsobill> bazhang, and 2 options to send error report and ignore
[03:14] <bazhang> unsobill, when and where does it say this: take a screenshot of the error please
[03:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: "the type of install"?
[03:15] <unsobill> bazhang, this is really so vague
[03:15] <L3top> unsobill: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -a3
[03:15] <L3top> unsobill: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3
[03:15] <L3top> sorry
[03:15] <unsobill> L3top, Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge DRAM Controller
[03:16] <unsobill> L3top, Kernel driver in use: i915
[03:16] <unsobill> theres some extra technical stuff - do u need it ?
[03:16] <unsobill> this is i7 CPU
[03:16] <unsobill> i7 3770K running on x64
[03:16] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: yes... you are asked a great number of questions from live CD with regard to installing. I was used to windows... so when things went awry I tended to destroy and install from scratch... because I did not understand the versitility of data under Linux
[03:17] <unsobill> lol i then get window with APPORT on top and 5 options
[03:17] <unsobill> i dont know what to do
[03:17] <unsobill> continue. i already know a patch
[03:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> L3top: your point being?
[03:17] <L3top> unsobill: ivybridge... is a toothache. It can be made happy, for the most part... but... I dont have the novacane on hand and cannot search atm as I have to go back to dev work... but it is common.
[03:17] <unsobill> L3top, so just grind teeth and move on - great
[03:18] <unsobill> L3top, will it be stable on 10.4 ?
[03:18] <unsobill> L3top, or 9
[03:18] <unsobill> ?
[03:18] <L3top> unsobill: I would love to walk you through it... but.. I dont have time atm. That should not be a condemnation of the OS fgs.
[03:18] <L3top> I can make it work on 1004 but it is a whole lot more work...
[03:18] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: still here
[03:18] <L3top> stay where you are
[03:19] <unsobill> okay L3top  :D
[03:19] <awc737> yea Cyberspaceloa. narrowed the problem, tasksel install LAMP deletes... stuff
[03:19] <awc737> which is a stupid bug. I'm considering ubu then installing xfce, instead of xubu
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: what I dug up is that anything unchecked in tasksell gets uninstalled
[03:20] <awc737> wtf....
[03:20] <L3top> WhereIsMySpoon: you can install ubuntu, over your ubuntu, without wiping 90 percent out... unlike windows. That is my point... however you should backup. You really should.
[03:20] <awc737> thats a big discovery
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: even if it's unrelated to what you think you're installing
[03:20] <awc737> how should I know what I need to re-check!
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1585015.html
[03:20] <L3top> over and out
[03:20] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: if you scroll down to slugslug's post: "and then a grep removed /var/log/dpgk showed me what I had to reinstall"
[03:21] <|Anthony|> is there any detriment to setting noatime on a drive that is for media files only?
[03:21] <|Anthony|> or any real benefit for that matter
[03:21] <unsobill> L3top if its lots of work fkit
[03:21] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: please note I can't determine the probability of success, since I've never dealt with tasksel at all
[03:21] <unsobill> L3top, i just go install something more stable then this :(
[03:21] <awc737> thanks a ton for this info Cyber
[03:21] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: and I kind of have to leave right now
[03:22] <awc737> k thanks, cya
[03:22] <unsobill> L3top, its just everything already setup and my lab is ready on buntu and i kinda started to like it
[03:22] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: you're welcome, I hope you get it worked out. I'll be back later on
[03:22] <L3top> unsobill: it is EASIER than widows... to do MORE than windows... with regard to reinstall
[03:22] <Wilson2B> Trying to figure out how to fix it, I reset the settings (Ithink) and uninstalled / reinstalled Cairo doc
[03:23] <unsobill> L3top, didnt catched that hint - should i reinstall 32 version ?
[03:23] <maicod> if I've typed export DISPLAY=":0" will it survive a reboot or do I need to edit some config file ?
[03:23] <L3top> unsobill: you get to be... unfamiliar and walk away... but it IS easier and faster and amazing in contrast to windows... Windows, which really needs a good doucheing every 9 months if you use it...
[03:24] <unsobill> L3top, to be honest I'm usually running Freebsd so not fan of Windows but Win7 proved to be much stable on my hardware then 12.4
[03:25] <unsobill> L3top, maybe i just need driver or patch who knows
[03:25] <L3top> unsobill: you can reinstall the base os over your current (again backup first) and the core OS and 90% of your sw will "just work:
[03:25] <L3top> I am NOW afk... cannot answer more questions
[03:25] <L3top> AFK
[03:26] <unsobill> :D
[03:26] <unsobill> i love idea of linux but it's pain in the arse to work under NOT STABLE linux
[03:27] <unsobill> any1 running Ivy bridge with 12.4 ?
[03:27] <cappicard> whee... got ipv6 working wirelessly on my laptop. :)
[03:27] <unsobill> L3top, check out this post http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_ivybridge_winlin&num=1
[03:27] <L3top> AFK
[03:29] <unsobill> how to view kernel guys
[03:30] <unsobill> i need to update to newest kernel to get rid of freezups
[03:30] <phiscribe> eat to the bottom of the bag of popcorn
[03:30] <unsobill> hehe :D
[03:30] <edgy> unsobill: use quantal
[03:30] <Wilson2B> So for weeks now I thought my problem was Unity / Compiz. Turns out it was #cairo-dock,  Bottom of screen would go blank on primary display only. Has anyone seen this before?.
[03:30] <unsobill> edgy, what sorcery is that
[03:31] <black_blood> hi all
[03:31] <chris92> !quantal | unsobill
[03:31] <WeThePeople> when i boot from cd iso it says "cant find image kernel" and has >>> boot:_  <<< waiting for me to type what should i type here to boot from cd iso img.
[03:31] <unsobill> and how do i compile new kernel
[03:32] <WeThePeople> for backtrack5
[03:32] <WeThePeople> iso
[03:32] <unsobill> last time i compiled my freebsd box was years ago
[03:32] <hmmwhatsthisdo> What will happen to the naming system after the 26th release of Ubuntu?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|unsobill:
[03:33] <unsobill> i didnt asked for backtra cfhowlett
[03:33] <chris92> !backtrack|WeThePeople
[03:33] <unsobill> i just want my bubuntu to stop freezing randomly on my Ivy chip :(
[03:35] <pyoor> Hi all.  I'm new to Ubuntu (no new to linux) but I'm trying to get access to the old Jaunty repos.  Does anyone happen to have a working link?  All the forum posts I've found reference links which no longer exist.
[03:35] <WeThePeople> pyoor, packages.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <WeThePeople> nope nvr mind
[03:36] <chris92> !jaunty > pyoor
[03:36] <unsobill> guys guys !!! should i do this ???? http://partiallysanedeveloper.blogspot.ca/2012/05/ivy-bridge-hd4000-linux-freeze.html
[03:37] <pyoor> WeThePeople: actually I was looking at that earlier.  It contains the packages I need but I'd rather have the repo so I don't have to install every package individually
[03:37] <pyoor> ubottu: I understand it's EOL.  I'm using a product which requires gcc 3.4
[03:37] <unsobill> im doing it fkit
[03:37] <pyoor> heh
[03:37] <unsobill> :) wish me luck
[03:37] <unsobill> upgrading to 3.3.6 i think
[03:37] <pyoor> chris92: ^
[03:38] <chris92> pyoor: hmm... there should be some archives for the repos somewhere, but ubuntu doesnt host them anymore I think
[03:39] <pyoor> hrmm.  yeah I haven't found anything official from ubuntu either
[03:39] <unsobill> for any1 who has freezups or issues with Ivy bridge use this guys
[03:39] <pyoor> what about the hardy repos?
[03:39] <unsobill> http://partiallysanedeveloper.blogspot.ca/2012/05/ivy-bridge-hd4000-linux-freeze.html
[03:39] <WeThePeople> pyoor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1157181
[03:39] <pyoor> hardy has gcc-3.4
[03:39] <unsobill> rebooting
[03:39] <pyoor> WeThePeople: that no longer works as ubuntu doesn't host the jaunty repo's (atleast not there)
[03:39] <pyoor> but thanks
[03:39] <chris92> do you need the .iso or the repos?
[03:40] <chris92> pyoor: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/
[03:40] <chris92> that should be the link for the jaunty repos
[03:40] <chris92> try them
[03:40] <pyoor> chris92: whatever would be easiest to install gcc3-4 and a few deps
[03:40] <Hatori> !info netflix
[03:41] <pyoor> chris92: mind if I ask for the format of the /apt/sources for that to work
[03:41] <pyoor> I'm not very good with apt
[03:41] <chris92> "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:41] <pyoor> yup
[03:41] <chris92> or rather
[03:42] <chris92> can you paste me the output of it?
[03:42] <chris92> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:42] <pyoor> chris92: 1 moment.  I think I might have it.
[03:43] <chris92> pyoor: normally the url you need to paste in there instead of every other url would be " http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ "
[03:43] <pyoor> chris92: yeap that's what I've got
[03:43] <pyoor> chris92: and thanks.  that worked.
[03:43] <IDWMaster> Hi. I'm having issues with hardware compatibility of Ubuntu on my new netbook. Where should I report the issue?
[03:43] <pyoor> much appreciated
[03:43] <IDWMaster> My backlight adjustment buttons aren't working
[03:44] <chris92> pyoor: you are welcome =)
[03:44] <cfhowlett> !bugs|IDWMaster:
[03:47] <ActionPa1snip> IDWMaster: what make and model system? (I bet samsung)
[03:52] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: still with us?
[03:53] <IDWMaster> Hmm. I've read the section on reporting bugs through Launchpad, and my problem doesn't seem to pertain to a particular package within Ubuntu, should I file the form for creation of a new package (a driver to support my backlight)?
[03:54] <ActionPa1snip> IDWMaster: what make and model system?
[03:55] <KRomeleoN> anyone using a recon3d sound card?
[03:55] <LittleFoot> hi
[03:55] <awc737> yeah Cyberspaceloa, that's definitely the bug, and I just need to be careful with tasksel
[03:55] <IDWMaster> Intel Atom N2600 processor
[03:55] <LittleFoot> does ubuntu support 1440p
[03:55] <KRomeleoN> ActionPa1snip, you are my favorite
[03:55] <awc737> I'm considering doing a debian minimalist install with xfce however...
[03:56] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: I'm on xubuntu 12.04 right now and I like it so far
[03:56] <ActionPa1snip> IDWMaster: that's not important here, we need the make and model of the system if it has one
[03:56] <ActionPa1snip> KRomeleoN: thanks :)
[03:56] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: sounds like tasksel is an outdated tool
[03:56] <awc737> yeah thats what i'm on...
[03:56] <awc737> yeah it is
[03:56] <awc737> but theres no other all in one lamp installer
[03:57] <phiscribe> awc737 im partial to lxde when performance is a factor
[03:57] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: if I recall, I thought there was a lamp meta package via apt?
[03:57] <phiscribe> icewm when its critical
[03:57] <awc737> phiscribe: it's not tho, pretty powerful machine and I'm willing to sacrifice  performance for easy-of-use
[03:57] <awc737> especially since xfce is pretty light anwayy
[03:58] <awc737> i just can't stand unity
[03:58] <phiscribe> go kde if you got horsepower
[03:58] <awc737> meh, kde was crazy
[03:58] <awc737> i tried opensuse kde
[03:58] <awc737> too much... try hard to be cool
[03:59] <cdoublejj> installing nvidia drivers causing my machine to freeze just after auto log on. is there a way to see wahts failing or double check it is installing the correct drivers
[03:59] <phiscribe> its pretty anyway :p~
[03:59] <Cyberspaceloa> awc737: apparently you are correct. Am I crazy thinking there used to be a convenient lamp meta package in the official repos??
[04:00] <awc737> well you can put lamp in tasksel param, safer way to do it
[04:00] <ardchoille> Cyberspaceloa: I remember using that convenient lamp meta package
[04:01] <LittleFoot> has any1 tried ubuntu at 1440p
[04:01] <awc737> brb
[04:01] <LittleFoot> its only showing 640 max
[04:01] <Cyberspaceloa> I'm going to bookmark that thread in case anyone else needs it
[04:02] <ardchoille> Is there a way to take a screenshot of the login screen (lightdm?)
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> ardchoille:did you try f11?
[04:03] <macmartine> Is a .sock file something I can just create on my own and point to? As in the case of this example from Unicorn: https://gist.github.com/3824924
[04:03] <ardchoille> lotuspsychje: haven't tried that, didn't know about that
[04:03] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: what video chip?
[04:04] <LittleFoot> gtx560
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> ardchoille:not sure that works, but worth trying
[04:05] <ardchoille> lotuspsychje: will try that next time I reboot, thank you
[04:05] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[04:05] <theo> Some advice pls: Can I install Linux on an eee pc netbook, (atom) and how good is this?
[04:06] <somsip> theo: yes you can. I have it on a 701 4G so even the lowest spec can handle it, if you don't expect too much
[04:06] <ActionPa1snip> theo: yes it'll work fine
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> macmartine:maybe this can help? https://github.com/blog/517-unicorn
[04:07] <theo> somsip: thnx for that. It wld hv to be faster than Windoze, surely? And in ur experience, why shld I "not expect too much"?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> theo:is it a 32bit or 64bit netbook?
[04:08] <Sabaoth> hey
[04:08] <somsip> theo: well it depends what model you are installing it on. Don't expect much frm unity on a 401, for example. But if you run openbox or something light on a 401, it's fine.
[04:08] <theo> I was thinking og getting an Asus eee pc and intsall Linux
[04:08] <somsip> theo: if you buy a newer, faster model, you should be fine on all respects. But I have no anecdotal evidence to share except on a 401
[04:09] <LittleFoot> ActionPa1snip, no i mean does it support it?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> theo:i would not recommend eee, like somsip says better buy faster model for ubuntu
[04:09] <theo> I just won an iPad but an small etbook would suit me better than a non-creative iPad, whci I will sell
[04:09] <LittleFoot> i dont have it installed yet
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> theo:smart decission
[04:09] <somsip> lotuspsychje: well, I meant a more recent eee than the 401 which is pretty low spec
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> somsip:i dont like those eee, but thats just my opinion and offtopic :p
[04:10] <macmartine> lotuspsychje: thanks yeah i just read that, but it doesn't answer that
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> theo:you can join ##hardware to check up good netbooks suitable for ubuntu aswell
[04:10] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: you'd have to check manufacturers spec to see what it can do
[04:11] <macmartine> lotuspsychje: i think it's just more a lack of understanding of sockets
[04:11] <theo> so, on an eee pc netbook could I install Ubuntu or is Puppy a better choice?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip:whats that trigger again for ubuntu laptop compatibility list?
[04:11] <ActionPa1snip> !hcl
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> theo:ubuntu all the way
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> theo:check that list ActionPa1snip just triggered pls
[04:12] <cfhowlett> theo: both xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for machines with low specifications, e.g. netbooks.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett:i run precise 12.04.1 on 64bit netbook flawless with compiz
[04:13] <theo> I hv xfce on my laptop and it is great :)
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: i'd imagine the chip can go quite high
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip:its an acer One with rather higher specs yes
[04:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje: I understand.  Was merely offering a suggestion that Theo might not have considered.  I'm happy to hear that Ubuntu works for you.
[04:14] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: does it use a hybrid gpu?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett:yes mate you are very right aswell, xubuntu would rock on netbook :p
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip:howto check?
[04:15] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: sudo lshw -C display     do you see an intel and an nvidia, or just an nvidia
[04:16] <LittleFoot> ActionPa1snip, my mon suport 1440p in windows
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: product: Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290]
[04:17] <somsip> LittleFoot: do you mean 1440p or 1440x960?
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> macmartine:not sure then, can you detail more what exaclty you want to do?
[04:17] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[04:18] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: what windows dioes is of near zero value
[04:19] <loui625> algun canal sobre hacking en IRC?
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> loui625: try ##networking
[04:19] <cfhowlett> !es|loui625:
[04:19] <LittleFoot> no i am asking can ubuntu handle 1440p
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: possibly, if you can give the output of the command I may be able to advise
[04:20] <LittleFoot> i dont have it installed
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: my POS 6150LE can do 1440 width, its nothing really special
[04:22] <somsip> ActionPa1snip: there are 1440p (height) big monitors. That's why i asked for clarification
[04:25] <LittleFoot> no its 1440 height
[04:26] <Steve132_> I'm having real problems getting my HP printer to work...I have a pdf file, but just printing it with lp file.pdf queues a job by an unknown user that forever is "processing"
[04:26] <Steve132_> this has happened with multiple files
[04:26] <Steve132_> any ideas how to start debugging this?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:did you instal hplip tools mate?
[04:26] <Steve132_> I don't know
[04:26] <Steve132_> probably not
[04:26] <Steve132_> at least not that I know of
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip | Steve132_
[04:27] <Steve132_> should I install it?
[04:27] <Steve132_> I don't have it, no
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:its worth a try to make life easier yes
[04:27] <Steve132_> Ok, what does that do?
[04:27] <ActionPa1snip> LittleFoot: it does it here, yours is far more powerful than mine, you can always run a liveCD / USB and test there
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:its a GUI control centre for HP printer/scanner
[04:28] <Steve132_> ok
[04:28] <Steve132_> how do I use it?
[04:28] <Steve132_> I still appear to be having the same error
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:you work gui or just command line?
[04:28] <LittleFoot> oh yeah live usb
[04:29] <LittleFoot> ill try that
[04:29] <Steve132_> I don't know what you mean?  I am on a desktop machine, so I have both
[04:29] <LittleFoot> thx
[04:29] <Steve132_> KUbuntu 12.04
[04:29] <Steve132_> so, I work gui, I guess
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:just start hplip control centre and try the job from there
[04:29] <malkauns> is there a way to move all windows to a specified display via commandline?
[04:30] <Steve132_> how do I start that?
[04:30] <ActionPa1snip> malkauns: wmctrl may help
[04:30] <Steve132_> what is the command to start it?
[04:30] <Steve132_> It's not showing up in tab-complete
[04:30] <malkauns> ActionPa1snip, thx, any idea how to use it?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:after install and reboot it will startup automaticly in indicator section
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> malkauns: i only know of it, I'm sure the man pages and online guides will be able to shed some light
[04:31] <malkauns> k
[04:31] <Steve132_> Reboot whole machine?
[04:31] <Steve132_> ok, I'll try that
[04:31] <Steve132_> brb
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:yes but, after install you can start the hplip icon from dash too
[04:34] <SecretFire> Im trying to get counter strike to run through wine
[04:34] <Steve132_> Ok, nothing shows up in the indicator
[04:34] <ActionPa1snip> SecretFire: did you check the appdb?
[04:34] <Steve132_> lotuspyschje: I'm on kubuntu, no dash.  Whats the cmdline to load it?
[04:34] <SecretFire> ActionPa1snip : i don't understand
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:hiplip i guess
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> hplip
[04:35] <ActionPa1snip> SecretFire: the appdb has a list of apps, how well they run and hints on how to make things run nicer
[04:35] <Steve132_> thats not a command on my system
[04:35] <Steve132_> after installing the package
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:cant you run it from the icon?
[04:35] <bazhang> !appdb | SecretFire
[04:35] <somsip> lotuspsychje: doesn't hplip just install some drivers that are setup using localhost:631?
[04:35] <Steve132_> lotuspsychje: what icon
[04:36] <Steve132_> no icon
[04:36] <bazhang> SecretFire, check the appdb, then /join #winehq
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:lol you sure you installed the package? from start menu go check
[04:36] <ActionPa1snip> SecretFire: urban terror is a native equivelant. runs well
[04:36] <ActionPa1snip> SecretFire: and is free
[04:36] <Steve132_> sudo apt-get install hplip "Package is already newest version"
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> somsip:its gui for hp specific, but yes localhost works too
[04:37] <somsip> lotuspsychje: ah - din't know about the gui. i'll leave it with you
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:so if you installed it, you should have icon somewhere in your menu
[04:37] <Steve132_> Found the problem: Reading hte package depends, thats just some driver and utils
[04:37] <Steve132_> theres an hplip-gui package
[04:37] <Steve132_> which I didn't have
[04:38] <LittleFoot> does any1 here haave a 1440p monitor that can verify it works in ubuntu
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:ah ic i should have recommended the software centre
[04:39] <ActionPa1snip> Steve132_: wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.12.9.run; chmod +x ./hplip-3.12.9.run; ./hplip-3.12.9.run
[04:39] <Steve132_> I'm not really interested in some random binary, I did get the gui utils
[04:39] <Steve132_> which one do I run
[04:40] <ActionPa1snip> Steve132_: look at the URL....
[04:40] <ActionPa1snip> Steve132_: its the HPLIP from the HPLIP website
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> LittleFoot: ubuntu will choose best res auto for your machine..
[04:40] <ActionPa1snip> Steve132_: not random at all
[04:41] <ActionPa1snip> Steve132_: it will install he HPLIP toolkit and other goodies
[04:41] <Steve132_> ActionPa1snip: I know, I wasn't implying it was sketchy, I just meant I prefer to use the packman when I can
[04:41] <Steve132_> and I did and it worked and now I have the systray
[04:41] <Steve132_> icon
[04:42] <Steve132_> So what do I use it to do?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:to do print jobs...
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Steve132_:http://hplipopensource.com/node/192
[04:50] <black_blood> not getting this at all
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> black_blood:understand what?
[04:50] <black_blood> irc
[04:51] <black_blood> this is my first time
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> black_blood:well you joined an ubuntu support channel here
[04:52] <black_blood> ok well im new to that too
[04:52] <Mechdave> G'day all, has anyone found problems with rhythmbox mtp plugin? My mtp is working fine but rhythmbox crashes because the mtp plugin can't find the vendor id's
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> black_blood:so if you have any troubles with ubuntu, this is the right channel to ask
[04:53] <SteveAoki> hola
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | black_blood
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !es | SteveAoki
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Mechdave:what does the mtp plugin?
[04:55] <Mechdave> lotuspsychje, it connects a mtp device (in this case my SGS2) to rhythmbox so I can transfer files to and from it straight in to rhythmbox
[04:55] <petemoss> hey, did anyone else have a GRUB error after yesterday's updates?
[04:55] <black_blood> ubottu: i am running ubuntu installed it 3 days ago and im having fun with it
[04:55] <black_blood> lol
[04:55] <black_blood> woops
[04:55] <petemoss> my system won't boot, gives me a grub prompt, and i am in livecd to try to fix this... wondering if anyone else has had this issue?
[04:56] <Mechdave> The mtp problem only exists since updates yesterday. before that mtp was working
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Mechdave:ah maybe you need the driver for the device first to run?
[04:56] <petemoss> just installed updates yesterday and went to boot today... kaput
[04:56] <ActionPa1snip> petemoss: can you expand on kaput
[04:56] <Mechdave> lotuspsychje, it does it with my samsung mp3 player too
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> petemoss:got dualboot?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Mechdave:thats odd indeed
[04:57] <Mechdave> lotuspsychje, nope, no drivers. Only libmtp
[04:57] <petemoss> kaput=grub prompt ... just running ubuntu on this machine
[04:57] <ActionPa1snip> petemoss: what video chip do you use?
[04:57] <petemoss> grub promp as in a command line
[04:58] <ActionPa1snip> petemoss: so you boot to grub prompt oonly
[04:58] <petemoss> that's right... not sure what my video chipset is
[04:59] <petemoss> i can't seem to find anything in ubuntu's new menu system. unless i already know its name
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Mechdave:could you run rythmbox from terminal to debug error?
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Mechdave:so we can see why it crashes
[05:00] <petemoss> i am on a toshiba satellite
[05:00] <ActionPa1snip> petemoss: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   just change 'bind' for '--bind' in the guide
[05:00] <ActionPa1snip> petemoss: oh, they updted it :D
[05:02] <petemoss> grub was updated? or that tutorial has been?
[05:02] <ActionPa1snip> petemoss: grub may have been updated, yes. Sounds likely
[05:02] <petemoss> yeah, fun stuff
[05:03] <petemoss> i'm actually wondering about running android on my laptop... if it would be compatible native, or would have to be run in an emulator
[05:03] <Mechdave> lotuspsychje, found out why, there were album art files on the device which freaked out mtp
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Mechdave
[05:04] <petemoss> its a good 'nix os that seems to have me looking past ubuntu for one
[05:04] <petemoss> i guess years of the command prompt have gtten to me
[05:06] <petemoss> thanks for the help, i will try these instructions!
[05:09] <digadvan> anyone have wordpress theme photopharm?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> digadvan:is it ubuntu related mate?
[05:10] <digadvan> well.. wordpress runs on ubuntu in my envirnoment
[05:11] <Alone> r
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> digadvan:try searching wordpress channel maybe
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !alis | digadvan
[05:33] <bonedisk> halooo
[05:35] <siva> Hi i am trying cross compile the Qt application but it's generating error like "QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced." how to solve this issue
[05:37] <MissionControl> to the administrator I appologize
[05:38] <acolytetojippity> hey, i have a quick question, is there anything special i need to do in order to  install 12.04 to a portable hard drive, and have it bootable?
[05:38] <ActionPa1snip> siva: http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/6068-How-to-set-QMAKESPEC
[05:38] <acolytetojippity> I would also need to be able to actually use the remaining space on the drive for storage
[05:39] <MissionControl> you can set remaining drive space on the "make startup disk utility" that comes with ubuntu
[05:39] <MissionControl> that is if you are installing it from there
[05:39] <MissionControl> don't know how much that helps
[05:40] <acolytetojippity> it would be possible to install it to a back partition though, right?  as windows won't recognize drives beginning with weird partitions
[05:40] <MissionControl> I can't say I would know
[05:40] <acolytetojippity> would this be a better question for #ubuntubeginners?
[05:41] <MissionControl> you could try there
[05:41] <MissionControl> good luck to you acolytetojippity
[05:42] <acolytetojippity> thank you MissionControl
[05:42] <acolytetojippity> may your missions go smoothly
[05:42]  * acolytetojippity salutes
[05:42] <siva> Hi i am trying cross compile the Qt application but it's generating error like "QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced." how to solve this issue.  "/home/arasi/am3358/linux-devkit/bin/qmake -project ClanCor_HHC.pro"                          and i am getting final error.make: *** No rule to make target `../../../../staging/usr/mkspecs/qws/linux-arm-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[05:43] <ActionPa1snip> siva: i posted a link earlier....
[05:44] <ActionPa1snip> siva: did you read the link?
[05:45] <siva> yes i did read, after that following error make:** No rule to make target `../../../../staging/usr/mkspecs/qws/linux-arm-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !info curl > lotuspsychje
[05:52] <siva> Hi Action,Actiually i cross compiling my Qt application using arago toolchain.So qmake is located in my pc is "/home/arasi/am3358/linux-devkit/bin/qmake" so compiled my application by  /home/arasi/am3358/linux-devkit/bin/qmake -project ClanCor_hhc
[05:53] <siva> So it's generated make: *** No rule to make target `../../../../staging/usr/mkspecs/qws/linux-arm-g++/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[05:54] <siva> I am new this cross compilation pls help me to solve this issue.
[05:57] <themindbenders> hi to all ubuntu users?
[05:57] <Hayate> hi
[05:58] <themindbenders> so where r u from?
[05:58] <Hayate> !ot | themindbenders
[06:04] <siva> Ans pls...
[06:05] <wir3frame> Folks, if Ubuntu is fully installed on a hard drive (external) and gets moved around between computers with different architectures/graphics/network will it auto-detect the changes each boot or not?
[06:05] <Hayate> wir3frame, maybe you need some step to config :d
[06:06] <wir3frame> Hayate, what will the steps look like?
[06:08] <Hayate> wir3frame, maybe your disk detected differently as on old system ..
[06:09] <themindbenders> how dp i recover my mp4 files from my usb stick
[06:09] <themindbenders> ?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> themindbenders: mount the stick, copy the files.
[06:10] <themindbenders> what/
[06:10] <themindbenders> i already deleted all the data then how?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[06:11] <Craggy> Hi, I was sorting my packages, and I have maybe a silly question. Do I really need package nvidia-common if I have ati grafic card? Just want to be sure to not mess my PC before I remove it, Thanks
[06:14] <timfrost> !undelete | themindbenders
[06:16] <themindbenders> my usb stick is in fat32 filesyatem form?
[06:16] <WindBuntu> .
[06:17] <timfrost> themindbenders: unless you have re-formatted it with ext2/3/4, then yes it will be fat32/vfat
[06:18] <themindbenders> means i have to format my usb?
[06:18] <konqui> What is the best way to get rid of services etc that I do not use and purge the system of unessacary components?
[06:18] <ejv> hi #ubuntu
[06:19] <Hayate> konqui, purge it
[06:20] <konqui> Hayate: Did you really except what you just said to be helpful support in any way?
[06:20] <ejv> konqui: if you want a streamlined system, ubuntu may not be the right tool for that job, perhaps gentoo, they have a unique USE flag system for specifying what kind of support you want. very optimized.
[06:20] <timfrost> themindbenders: no.  Do NOT format it - the default when it is sold to you is vfat, which gives you a chance of recovering the files, if you follow the advice at the first link that the info bot gave you
[06:20] <Hayate> konqui, you know what you don't need on yourr system
[06:21] <ejv> konqui: if you're experienced enough you can ls /etc/ or better yet ls /etc/init.d/ and look for things you may not want, but don't go blasting away something just because you don't know what it is, then you can use apt-get purge/remove/whatever to remove stuff.
[06:21] <konqui> ejv: Gentoo's package management is not for me.
[06:21] <Hayate> ipv6 address
[06:22] <ejv> konqui: apt-get blah, emerge blah, splitting hairs ;)
[06:22] <konqui> ejv: I'm mainly concerned about remove stuff runnin in memory at startup that is not needed.
[06:24] <ejv> konqui: good luck ;)
[06:29] <XiaolinDraconis> and this is why i hate updates
[06:29] <XiaolinDraconis> every other update something new gets broken
[06:30] <cfhowlett> XiaolinDraconis: Do LTS releases only - LOT fewer headaches.
[06:30] <timfrost> themindbenders: I just looked at the page referenced by ubottu, but that is mostly focused on system recovery.  There may be better tools in  Windows for recovery of data on a USB stick that is formatted for fat32/vfat.  I don't have any references for that
[06:30] <XiaolinDraconis> is that 12.04 or 12.10?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> XiaolinDraconis: current LTS is 12.04
[06:31] <cfhowlett> !LTS|XiaolinDraconis:
[06:31] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah thats where my problem is
[06:31] <themindbenders> i any one know how to recover my fat32 usb stick then please tell me?
[06:31] <XiaolinDraconis> i stay away from .10's
[06:32] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:32] <XiaolinDraconis> i learned that lesson with 11.10
[06:32] <timfrost> !LTS |  XiaolinDraconis:
[06:33] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499: greetings
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> themindbenders, Testdisk is a good tool for recovery http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[06:33] <XiaolinDraconis> is there some bug with 12.04 and ubuntu one?
[06:33] <ShapeShifter499> I noticed that when I run windows apps (via wine) and/or other linux apps that use status icons, some icons get "knocked" out of view and sometimes fails to pop back in, can I increase the size of this area or install something that brings windows' style of status icon management to it?
[06:34] <XiaolinDraconis> got an sso error or something
[06:34] <ShapeShifter499> I'm talking about the icons next to the clock in unity
[06:35] <cfhowlett> XiaolinDraconis: not that I know of.
[06:35] <cfhowlett> XiaolinDraconis: details of your experience...
[06:35] <ShapeShifter499> oh wait....  lol I thought the icon got "bumped" out of the bar but it appears the app crashed and didn't notify till just now
[06:35] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> themindbenders, Your best insurance though which you may be beginning to realize, and would not have you here trying to get help are backups.
[06:36] <ShapeShifter499> disregard my question xD
[06:36] <themindbenders> wilee: yup
[06:37] <nurfed> hi, i got some problem. when i add an alias it works, but after reboot its gone again. how can i make it permanent? :s
[06:37] <ejv> XiaolinDraconis: there are several grave bugs with 12.04.0, definitely jump to 12.04.1 to get all the nice fixes.
[06:38] <somsip> nurfed: add it to your .bash_aliases file
[06:38] <XiaolinDraconis> cfhowlett, on start-up i get internal error, after clicking show details, i noticed it says something about /usr/bin/ubuntu-sso-login    <or something similar
[06:39] <XiaolinDraconis> ejv, i have updates set to weekly so i assume i have that
[06:39] <gst9> hi guys
[06:40] <gst9> can we ask non-tech questions?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !ot|gst9:
[06:40] <cfhowlett> gst9: try in offtopic
[06:40] <gst9> thanks
[06:41] <XiaolinDraconis> cfhowlett, so the details would be ubuntu-sso-login crashes at startup
[06:42] <XiaolinDraconis> and another problem as well, torchlight has an update but it will not install
[06:43] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: compare the details of the error report you get with these existing bugs involving Ubuntu single-sign-on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=ubuntu-sso-login - your issue may be a duplicate of one of those
[06:43] <XiaolinDraconis> searching
[06:43] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: I fixed a couple of annoying SSO issues earlier in the cycle; it seems to be plagued with bad code!
[06:44] <XiaolinDraconis> i recognize one word
[06:44] <XiaolinDraconis> sigsev
[06:46] <XiaolinDraconis> the more important of my problems would be torchlight
[06:47] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: It's the detail of which function caused the SIGnal SEgmentation Violation (SIGSEGV)
[06:47] <XiaolinDraconis> when i launch the game my entire screen goes crazy, like i broke an nes
[06:47] <XiaolinDraconis> then smacked the tv and knocked the vsync out of order
[06:48] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: Could the binaries be corrupted? Sounds rather like when a binary does illegal writes to screen
[06:48] <XiaolinDraconis> except its not a vertical crazy its horizontal
[06:48] <XiaolinDraconis> i checked xsession errors and it said something about not being able to draw pixels to background
[06:49] <XiaolinDraconis> could running out of ram in the middle of a process cause such errors?
[06:49] <XiaolinDraconis> permanent errors
[06:50] <XiaolinDraconis> cause it still did it after a reboot
[06:51] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: It'd be a really bad program if it did that
[06:51] <XiaolinDraconis> so im guess the best first attempt at a solution would be to un-install and re-install torchlight
[06:51] <XiaolinDraconis> ?
[06:53] <XiaolinDraconis> is there anyway to stop the horizontal craziness? i tried going to an alt F5 tty and typing xsession -restart and --restart
[06:54] <XiaolinDraconis> i wasnt seeing any output whole screen was black
[06:54] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: what GPU and driver is that PC using?
[06:55] <ejv> question, i want to run NX into ubuntu server, what's the lightest weight desktop environment that I can install?
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> ejv: openbox
[06:55] <TJ-> The reviews of the game on the app center all seem to report the game is very buggy
[06:55] <XiaolinDraconis> its onboard i have a dell 8100 or something? using a pentium d 2.8
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> ejv: standalone, but it's not a DE it's just a window manager
[06:55] <XiaolinDraconis> the only bugginess ive heard of is missing faces
[06:55] <ejv> aeon-ltd: can it do what gnome did for me on 10.04 lts?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> ejv: xfce of lxde or pretty light
[06:55] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/torchlight/
[06:56] <XiaolinDraconis> other than that all forum reports that it runs great
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> ejv: not by itself
[06:56] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have had a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04 as it does not want to connect to the internet. My router specifications is this ( Atheros Communications AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet Biostar Microtech int'l corp devlinux driver )
[06:56] <BlueWolf> I have put all my out put that I have tried here ( http://pastebin.com/hTrJXHJJ ) How can I get my internet working?
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> ejv: you'd need to get all the other applications and configure them if you wanted to replicate gnome but lighter
[06:57] <ejv> i prefer just apt-get blah, im sorta in a hurry, it's also part ignorance/lazyness :D
[06:57] <ejv> xfce looks interesting
[06:58] <TJ-> BlueWolf: see bug #927782
[06:58] <Qasaur> Hey guys I have a problem
[06:58] <XiaolinDraconis> TJ-, yup no serious bugs reported, legacy fullscreen problem with compiz, easily fixed, some missing textures, a little lag, but nothing thats caused anyone else to crash out
[06:58] <Qasaur> My headphone jack on my laptop doesn't work, the speakers work but the jack doesn't work at all
[06:59] <Qasaur> It used to work on Winwos but when I installed Ubuntu it stopped working - if that made any sense
[06:59] <Qasaur> windows*
[06:59] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: Try a full reinstall in-case some of its files got messed up when it went silly
[06:59] <BlueWolf> TJ-: I have, I does not seem to help or am I reading wrong. Do you know where I can find the drivers as I have searched and searched for them?
[07:00] <XiaolinDraconis> TJ-, sudo apt-get remove torchlight          correct?
[07:03] <ejv> if I do: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, it gives me tons of suggested packages, recommended packages, etc. what's the bare minimum to get a functioning DE without all the unnecessary components? and how do I tell apt-get that?
[07:04] <TJ-> Blue1: They're in precise-updates repository. Ensure you've enabled that in Software Sources, then you can search the Software Center for the "linux-backports-modules" packages
[07:05] <TJ-> XiaolinDraconis: correct. or simply "sudo apt-get --reinstall install torchlight"
[07:05] <TJ-> oops, wrong Blue!
[07:05] <TJ-> BlueWolf: They're in precise-updates repository. Ensure you've enabled that in Software Sources, then you can search the Software Center for the "linux-backports-modules" packages
[07:07] <BlueWolf> TJ-: When do I do that, how do I enable it? linux-backports-modules
[07:07] <XiaolinDraconis> i installed a chromium repo and didnt like the update i got, so i reverted to the main depo package and unchecked the repo, but i still see the update in the manager
[07:08] <TJ-> BlueWolf: hang on, just reproducing the steps ere
[07:09] <lenios> what would be the best way to had sources from several ubuntu versions (say lucid, precise and quantal) on a precise install. looks like adding deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list isn't enough and i also need to add deb lines, and i don't want to use quantal repositories to get packages on precise...
[07:10] <Guest19914> ciao
[07:10] <Guest19914> !list
[07:11] <rollitup> still haven't been able to hear sound after installing ubuntu for M-audio Delta 1010LT
[07:13] <BlueWolf> TJ-: I downloaded a package off this site could you assist me on what needs to be installed from this package, is it of any use anyway? - ( http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx )
[07:13] <timfrost> lenios: deb-src lines won't give you access to packages.  Adding deb lines for previous releases won't automatically install from those releases, unless you force a package to be the version from that release.  Note that forcing a version may prevent other updates because of version-specific dependencies
[07:13] <magn3ts> Dearie me, why does ffmpeg still need to be recompiled in ubuntu for vpx support?
[07:14] <TJ-> BlueWolf: That's not a good way to do it - that'll break the Ubuntu packaging
[07:15] <lenios> timfrost, problem is not adding deb lines from older releases, but from newer releases
[07:15] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok :D , Then what way would you recommend I do?
[07:15] <lenios> and adding only deb-src lines doesn't provide me sources packages
[07:16] <TJ-> BlueWolf: OK, I have it. Open a terminal and issue this command. It'll tell us whether you've got the package available from the repositories. If its there we can install it. "apt-cache search linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4"
[07:16] <magn3ts> dude, it's easier to get ffmpeg installed wtih vpx in Mac with homebrew than it is in ubuntu...
[07:16] <lenios> i only get access to sources packages by adding deb-src AND deb lines
[07:16] <TJ-> BlueWolf: You should expect to see about 10 lines of ouput, listing versions of the package for different kernel versions
[07:17] <BlueWolf> TJ-: ( sudo apt-cache search linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4 ) Just making sure, not that good with commands
[07:17] <TJ-> BlueWolf: You've got it :)
[07:17] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I always surround the commands to type with "double quote makrs"
[07:17] <B35m4> anyone else having problems with virtuakenv after last update?
[07:17] <B35m4> virtualenv
[07:18] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok I will go try it now, give me a moment :D
[07:18] <B35m4> this is my error message: ImportError: cannot import name urandom
[07:18] <B35m4> I'm still in ubuntu 11.10
[07:22] <Ankhwatcher> hey, I tunnelled successfully to my vnc server this morning from my phone and was running my desktop. Then my phone lost connectivity and now my server is refusing VNC connections. How can I restart the vnc server or clear the connections?
[07:22] <TJ-> Ouch! 471MB for *one* program! Time programmers went back to school!
[07:22] <timfrost> lenios: II haven't tried adding deb or deb-src lines from newer versions, because I expect the deb lines to break things.  I can't account for you being unable to access newer sources.  My usual method is to install build-deps from the release I am running, then apt-get the matching source, download the newer source and patch that
[07:23] <BlueWolf> TJ-: It's not doing anything, when I enter the code it just enters it and does nothing?
[07:23] <TJ-> BlueWolf: In other words, you just get back to the command prompt on the next line?
[07:23] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Yes
[07:24] <TJ-> BlueWolf: That's OK. That simply tells you don't (yet) have the correct repository enabled. We'll sort that out now
[07:24] <timfrost> lenios: did you do an apt-get update after adding the dep-src lines (without the deb lines)?
[07:24] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Well I can't simply download it, So what can I do?
[07:25] <Ankhwatcher> TJ-: that's nothing you should see a HP backup tool for Windows Servers, they run into gigs
[07:25] <TJ-> BlueWolf: The PC has no other network connection? No wired connection you could hook up temporarily?
[07:26] <TJ-> Ankhwatcher: I've seen them :p My point still stands. I began my programming career in 1981 writing games in machine-code, so I get annoyed at how sloppy programmers get these days!
[07:26] <BlueWolf> TJ-: No there is nothing, but I can download it on this computer that I am using now and move it via flash to the other?
[07:27] <ethan_> hi
[07:27] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Yes, that's what I'm going to walk you through now I know you have no alternative
[07:27] <ethan_> hi BlueWolf
[07:27] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I'll give you some background as to what we'll do first, so you understand the process.
[07:27] <ethan_> hi
[07:27] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok
[07:27] <BlueWolf> ethan_: Hi
[07:29] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Ubuntu archives/repositories are simply web-servers with files organised in a particular hierarchy. So, if we can identify the exact filenames of the ".deb" packages required we can download them easily, put them on a flash storage device, and then on the target machine do "sudo dpkg -iR </path/to/files/>" and the packages will be installed
[07:30] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok then lets give it a go then.
[07:30] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Before we start, we need to know which architecture the target PC is using (32 or 64-bit kernel) so can tell me what this command reports at a command-line? "uname -m"
[07:31] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok hold on :D
[07:32] <BlueWolf> TJ-: 86_64
[07:32] <timfrost> lenios: s/dep/deb/
[07:33] <TJ-> BlueWolf: OK, thanks. I notice you're in Zimbabwe so I'm just going to find out which Ubuntu archive mirror is closest to you... give me a few moments
[07:34] <BlueWolf> 	
[07:34] <BlueWolf> TJ- OK
[07:35] <Guest15048> Hi i'm new to ubuntu and i'm having a bit of problems with my wifi on ubuntu 12.04, when someone has time can you help me trouble shoot ?
[07:35] <TJ-> BlueWolf: OK, Found it. I've navigated the directories so you can go straight to this directory listing, then we'll find the exact file(s) you need to download:  http://zw.archive.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-3.2.0/
[07:35] <WindBuntu> gues
[07:36] <Ankhwatcher> Any ideas on what I can do to get this damned VNC desktop to connect? I know restarting my home server would do it, but I'd like a better option than that?
[07:36] <WindBuntu> Guest15048, what exactly is the trouble
[07:36] <jrib> !details | Guest15048, Ankhwatcher
[07:37] <Guest15048> hi sorry, my wifi seems really unstable and my speeds are pretty much dial up
[07:37] <Guest15048> when i have adsl 2+
[07:37] <WindBuntu> Guest15048, are you using the driver suggested by ubuntu ?
[07:38] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Um wow, which one am I downloading? :D
[07:38] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Those lists on that archive are hard to read because the filename column gets cut-off. You can paste this link directly into the address-bar of your browser to download the correct file:  http://zw.archive.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-3.2.0/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-3.2.0-31-generic_3.2.0-31.16_amd64.deb
[07:38] <Guest15048> not sure how do i find out
[07:38] <Guest15048> sorry for being a nob
[07:38] <WindBuntu> look under proprietary drivers
[07:38] <Guest15048> *noob
[07:38] <Ankhwatcher> This is the error message I get when I try to connect: http://picpaste.com/VNCError.PNG
[07:39] <Guest15048> ty just a sec
[07:39] <TJ-> Guest15048: Don't apologise! We were all 'noobs' once!
[07:39] <jrib> Ankhwatcher: do you have ssh access?
[07:39] <Ankhwatcher> jrib: yep, I'm talking to you over it
[07:39] <BlueWolf> TJ-: OK, give me a moment I'm sure you also saw how slow my internet is.
[07:39] <jrib> Ankhwatcher: so why not restart the vnc server using your ssh access?
[07:39] <Ankhwatcher> the tunnel is working, because I get the password prompt, but after that I get the error I linked to
[07:40] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Well I can't tell that on IRC ... IRC is fast even on a dial-up!
[07:40] <Ankhwatcher> jrib: that's what I'm looking for help doing
[07:40] <jrib> Ankhwatcher: what's your vnc setup like?
[07:40] <Guest15048> when i go to additional drivers it only mentions my graphics card
[07:40] <WindBuntu> Guest15048, usually after the installation of ubuntu, ubuntu will offer a message to you concerning drivers and the suggested proprietary drivers usually for video and wireless if they apply.
[07:40] <Ankhwatcher> jrib: I don't really remember tbh
[07:40] <BlueWolf> TJ-: OK well the download speed is 36Kbps and it's done, what now?
[07:41] <WindBuntu> Guest15048, what is the wireless card you are using?
[07:41] <TJ-> BlueWolf: move that file onto a USB flash stick and plug it into the Ubuntu PC. If you're lucky Ubuntu will automatically mount the USB stick and open a file-manager window on the desktop to prove it
[07:41] <Guest15048> I got one for the video but nothing for the wireless came up
[07:42] <WindBuntu> what wireless card are you using
[07:42] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ya it will, how do I go about installing it now?
[07:42] <jrib> !vnc > Ankhwatcher
[07:42] <TJ-> Guest15048: What does this report: "lspci -nn | egrep -i '(net|wire)'   "
[07:42] <Guest15048> atheros i think what is the command to check ?
[07:42] <jrib> Ankhwatcher: if you visit ubottu's page and read through the different servers, do you remember setting any of them up?  Check which are installed/running
[07:42] <Guest15048> 1 sec
[07:43] <TJ-> BlueWolf: We should use the Terminal to install that file, so you need to know the /path/to/directory/ where it is. I'm guessing it'll be something starting with "/media/????" Does that look to be a correct guess?
[07:44] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Well yes but I will just copy it into my downloads folder to make life easier for me. ~/Downloads/     ?
[07:44] <TJ-> BlueWolf: If you want to, sure, do that.
[07:44] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Should I extract it?
[07:45] <TJ-> BlueWolf: No. Just go to the Terminal, type: "sudo dpkg -iR ~/Downloads/"
[07:45] <Whiskey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1955476 <---- How do you fix that
[07:46] <TJ-> BlueWolf: That will then install the package for you
[07:46] <Guest15048> does this help ?
[07:46] <TJ-> BlueWolf: After that, you should be able to kick the WiFi into life by typing "sudo modprobe alx"
[07:46] <Guest15048> Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002a] (rev 01)
[07:46] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok,  give me a moment and I will get back to you
[07:46] <TJ-> Guest15048: That's precisely what we need :)
[07:46] <TJ-> BlueWolf: OK
[07:46] <iivvoo> hi.. so.. did the recent 12.04 updates break virtualenv's everywhere?
[07:48] <Guest15048> it says FATAL: Module alx not found.
[07:48] <iivvoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257441/ <- I've seen the urandom error before
[07:48] <TJ-> Guest15048: Err, that command was for BlueWolf :p
[07:48] <iivvoo> but the standard fix (re-running virtualenv) won't work since virtualenv itself is broken
[07:48] <Guest15048> sorry lol
[07:49] <nurfed> ls
[07:49] <TJ-> Guest15048: Your device uses the ath9k driver - I was dealing with the AR9825 the other night. There are *lots* of problems with that at present, especially slow and/or dropped connections. Seems to be related to two things: it should be set to "nohwcrypt=0" and possibly also "bt_coexist=0"
[07:50] <Qasaur> ufg
[07:50] <Guest15048> cool, so what should i do ?
[07:51] <konqui> Guest15048: TJ- My AR9285 never gave me problems since 10.04 and up
[07:51] <konqui> On android x86 it drops connections though
[07:52] <Guest15048> do i enter the commands as they are in terminal ?
[07:52] <WindBuntu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37409/why-is-my-internet-so-slow-with-an-atheros-wireless-card
[07:52] <WindBuntu> possible so;utons at that link Guest15048
[07:52] <TJ-> konqui: I think it depends on how it is interfaced (what make of card the chip is on). We've got a mainline kernel bug in progress for some issues currently
[07:53] <milindxcra> Hi .... I can't seem to update or install software on my 12.04 lts install
[07:53] <Guest15048> Thanks wind, I'll try and come back with the results.
[07:53] <Guest15048> 1 sec
[07:53] <grecu> hi
[07:53] <TJ-> Guest15048: You can try this:   echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 btcoex_enable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[07:54] <grecu> i need help
[07:54] <TJ-> Guest15048: And then try rebooting so the ath9k kernel module uses those options
[07:54] <WindBuntu> ok
[07:54] <Ankhwatcher> jrib: I've connected up VNC! I think i started a second desktop while I was trying to restart mine.
[07:54] <konqui> TJ-: Mine is an ASUS manufactured one
[07:54] <milindxcra> the error is dpkg: error: too-long line or missing newline in `/var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File'
[07:54] <jrib> Ankhwatcher: heh, ok
[07:54] <milindxcra> can someone help me
[07:54] <WindBuntu> state your problem
[07:55] <jrib> milindxcra: pastebin full input and output
[07:55] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Here is the feed back, something went wrong?   http://pastebin.com/YK7LP81i
[07:56] <grecu> i have ubundu on me PC but i cant instal the adaptor wireles belkin f7d4101 becouse i cant fiind driver for ubundu.heelp
[07:56] <iivvoo> do you really not know how to spell ubuntu?
[07:57] <milindxcra> Hi .. .here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/0upAx27V
[07:58] <TJ-> BlueWolf: My bad! With that PC not being connected to the net it hasn't received updated kernel versions. We just need to find out which version is on that PC, and then download/install the matching linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4 for it! Tell me what "uname -a" reports please
[07:58] <jrib> milindxcra: did you recently have some sort of power outage or other issue that forced you to do a hard reboot?
[07:58] <Ankhwatcher> jrib: I have a wierd feeling that I started a different vnc server while I was trying to restart vnc.
[07:58] <milindxcra> yes .. I did do a hard reboot recently
[07:59] <jrib> milindxcra: you should make sure fsck checks your partitions
[07:59] <grecu> can eny1  help me?
[07:59] <milindxcra> I tried reading /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File and it seems to be corrupted
[07:59] <grecu> helllo
[08:00] <milindxcra> ok ...  i will try fsck
[08:00] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok I'm on it, be back shortly
[08:00] <milindxcra> thans
[08:00] <milindxcra> thanks
[08:00] <WindBuntu> greco, were you connected to the internet when you installed ubuntu (wired to it)
[08:00] <jrib> !fsck | milindxcra
[08:00] <grecu> i cant connect to the internet
[08:01] <milindxcra> ok thx ubottu ...
[08:01] <grecu> i have ubundu on me PC but i cant instal the adaptor wireles belkin f7d4101 becouse i cant fiind driver for ubundu.heelp
[08:01] <grecu> read again
[08:01] <konqui> milindxcra: ubottu is a bot
[08:01] <WindBuntu> greco, when you installed the ubuntu operating system-were you conncected by a cat5 cable (hard wired) to the internet?
[08:02] <grecu> i dont have internet on cable,just wireles
[08:04] <WindBuntu> greco, when ubuntu is installed in the manner i mentioned, it makes wirelss driver installation simple becasue ubuntu will present you with tthe correct drivers. it can be difficult otherwise.
[08:04] <BlueWolf> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/7840JBe7
[08:05] <WindBuntu> greco you may even have to get all the numbers off your wireless card and see if the driver exists and then try to install it-the hard way
[08:05] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Arghh! I assumed the PC is using Ubuntu 12.04 Precise. That suggests it's using Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid. Is that correct?
[08:06] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Yes, sorry for not mentioning that earlier
[08:06] <grecu> yes wind but i use wireles adaptor belkin f7d4101 and i cant fiind driver for ubundu
[08:07] <TJ-> BlueWolf: OK, I need to go back an research this then. I'm not sure there are any backports of the alx module
[08:07] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Sure
[08:07] <WindBuntu> grecu, i think the only way you will get it is while being hard wired to the net...even if it means asking someone to let you do that
[08:08] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Sorry for the inconvenience :(
[08:08] <TJ-> BlueWolf: The latest backport of compat-wireless to Lucid is v3.3, not v3.4. I need to check if that contains the driver.
[08:08] <BlueWolf> TJ-: OK
[08:09] <grecu> oky wind,tank you:(
[08:10] <WindBuntu> greco http://www.ehow.com/how_8598699_install-belkin-f7d2101-ubuntu.html
[08:10] <WindBuntu> not sure if that will help you
[08:10] <WindBuntu> slightly different belkin
[08:11] <WindBuntu> but may give you some ideas...certainly is the hard way though
[08:11] <iivvoo> ok, so, anyone can help me with python 2.7 on 11.04 not having os.urandom since the update this morning?
[08:13] <milindxcra> Hi ... my output is at http://pastebin.com/0upAx27V ... I tried forcing filecheck on reboot as suggested but it doesn't resolve the problem ... when I try fsck on my mounted partition i get a warning ... can someone help me ..
[08:13] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I'm afraid, with that PC being on a very old Lucid kernel (2.6.32-24) there are no compat-wireless backport packages. You'd need to update the PC to the latest Lucid kernel first, but that would still only get you to the compat-wireless v3.3, and from what I read earlier, you'd need compat-wireless v3.4 to get the "alx" driver :(
[08:14] <puddle> hi
[08:14] <puddle> guys I had no mic in skype and a tutorial said install alsamixer, but since then I dont even have sound, any idea what i should do?
[08:15] <BlueWolf> TJ-: OK another brick wall, so do you think there is any point for me to download and install Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:15] <WindBuntu> greco http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1546667
[08:15] <TJ-> BlueWolf: So, in summary, the best solution if you could do it, would be to update that PC to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (or wait until the end of the month and use 12.10 when it is released). 12.04 still needs the -cw-3.4- package. 12.10 will have the "alx" driver included since it uses kernel v3.5
[08:15] <diverdude> When i insert my usb-stick both /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 appears. Why are 2 devices appearing?
[08:16] <WindBuntu> greco there is a guy in that link who explains how he got his wireless going with that belkin
[08:16] <TJ-> BlueWolf: on balance, if you're happy to upgrade, I'd recommend the 12.10 since it includes the "alx" driver. You could install the beta release now, or wait until month-end when the final release happens
[08:16] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok if I install 12.04, then could I do exactly what you told me to do earlier using that .deb?
[08:17] <puddle> any ideas guys?
[08:18] <StefanT> puddle: Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[08:18] <puddle> yeah
[08:18] <milindxcra> my /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File seems to be corrupt ... can anyone suggest a solution ..http://pastebin.com/0upAx27V
[08:18] <TJ-> BlueWolf: correct. The one you downloaded. The only thing to be sure of is, the installed kernel on 12.04 would be the most recent. That isn't guaranteed if you install from a CD/DVD and can't do an update over the Internet. In that case, you'd need to go back to the archive web-site and download the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4- that matches the installed kernel version
[08:18] <jpmh> I want to configure the unity launcher for firefox to add a parameter to the command line that it invokes in unity, how do I do this?
[08:18] <puddle> StefanT, installed alsamixer and sound is gone
[08:18] <puddle> it was fine before that
[08:19] <diverdude> When i insert my usb-stick both /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 appears. Why are 2 devices appearing?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> jpmh: write a script would be my guess
[08:20] <gordonjcp> diverdude: /dev/sdb is the whole disk, /dev/sdb1 is the first partition on it
[08:20] <Pricey> diverdude: sdb is the entire device, sdb1, sdb2, sdb3 etc. are partitions.
[08:20] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok can I download 12.04 using my torrent client, if so where can I download it from?
[08:20] <StefanT> puddle: have a look at the audio settings in the system settings, you can also reach it via the audio menu top/right of your screen
[08:20] <milindxcra> anyone ?
[08:20] <gordonjcp> !anyone | milindxcra
[08:20] <puddle> StefanT, i did but nothing is muted
[08:20] <jpmh> gnomefreak: there has to be a way to modify the command that is invoked
[08:21] <milindxcra> bump...my /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File seems to be corrupt ... can anyone suggest a solution ..http://pastebin.com/0upAx27V
[08:21] <StefanT> puddle, the correct audio output device is selected? (if multiple)
[08:21] <puddle> tried both
[08:21] <puddle> nothing happens
[08:21] <diverdude> gordonjcp: so if i want to do create bootable disk, this would be correct right?  dd if=pve-cd.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M
[08:21] <puddle> theres a digi out and an analog
[08:21] <puddle> no change whatever i do
[08:21] <puddle> but it plas sound i just dont hear anything
[08:21] <puddle> i mean clementine plays music still just without me hearing it or any other sound
[08:22] <StefanT> puddle: analog is what you want if you have traditional sound output (read: no digital connection)
[08:22] <balajeerc> Just installed 12.04 (fresh install) and my wireless network keeps dropping constantly. I have pasted my lshw, lspci and lsusb( its a usb wireless network device) here: http://codepad.org/1fvdrKlM Can someone please take a look and tell me what is going wrong?
[08:22] <puddle> StefanT, analog is slected but even test is not working
[08:23] <StefanT> puddle: then have a look at alsamixer in a console, you need both Master and PCM channel to be unmuted (M) and tuned up
[08:23] <puddle> alright
[08:24] <BlueWolf> TJ-: And that package I downloaded for the Backports could I use that same package for 12.04
[08:24] <BlueWolf> ?
[08:24] <puddle> hm i had to mute s/pdif to make it work
[08:24] <puddle> StefanT, ty for helping
[08:25] <iivvoo> how can I find out what older versions of a package there are so I can downgrade?
[08:25] <iivvoo> specifically python2.7
[08:26] <milindxcra> I tried  sudo dpkg --configure -a and still the error is the same  http://pastebin.com/2yX1tLpv
[08:27] <TJ-> BlueWolf: That package you downloaded is specifically matched the latest downloadable kernel for 12.04. It has the kernel-version in its name as the last set of numbers
[08:27] <Guest88196> Hi i'm the previous guest with wifi problems, just wanted to say thank you, what you suggested worked for me, my download speed went back to what is was on crappy windows lol
[08:28] <puddle> btw is there a video player for linux that has an eq (with easy to configure presets) and remembers last palyed position of movies? vlc has the eq part smplayer has the remembering but both lacks in the other feature
[08:28] <TJ-> BlueWolf: The torrent link is here, for the latest CD release of 12.04.1 http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/
[08:28] <Guest88196> TY Windbuntu
[08:28] <TJ-> Guest88196: Which fix have you applied?
[08:28] <BlueWolf> TJ-: So it would work if I had to put 12.04 on?
[08:28] <WindBuntu> yw guest15
[08:29] <mandanga> kk yalokas
[08:29] <mandanga> putas
[08:29] <mandanga> HELLO BITCHES
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !ops|mandanga:
[08:29] <wlosio> Hi how to enable Magic Quotes GPC  in PHP ??
[08:29] <gnomefreak> im here
[08:30] <TJ-> BlueWolf: there are already several kernel updates for 12.04. The thing with those backports packages is, you have to get the one that matches exactly the kernel version in use (which you find out using "uname -a")
[08:30] <mandanga> I FUCKED YOUR MOTHER TODAY AND IT FEELS SO GOOD
[08:30] <gnomefreak> magez: please ask your support question or leave
[08:30] <somsip> wlosio: err.not recommended and deprecated real soon
[08:30] <gnomefreak> damn
[08:30] <wlosio> somsip, Joomna require it
[08:30] <TJ-> gnomefreak: I guess they got their answer :p
[08:30] <wlosio> 3.0.0
[08:31] <dark-sun> can i tag multiple files using easytag?
[08:31] <somsip> wlosio: http://support.aiso.net/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=211
[08:31] <ksenia_> h
[08:31] <iivvoo> crap, downgrading ubuntu will uninstall 332 packages
[08:31] <wlosio> somsip, .htacces not work on my server :P
[08:32] <gnomefreak> i hope he comes back :(
[08:32] <Fuzzles> for an old machine xubuntu or lubuntu? which is better pros and cons of both?
[08:32] <somsip> wlosio: so use the other solution. I deliberately posted a link with more than one
[08:32] <WindBuntu> lubuntu
[08:33] <Fuzzles> WindBuntu, why lubuntu over xubuntu?
[08:33] <[deXter]> Fuzzles, Xubuntu if you want a more complete desktop environment, but Lubuntu is lighter than xubuntu
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles: install either one and then the alternate DE and test them for yourself.
[08:33] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok so the one to download is - alternate-amd64?
[08:34] <WindBuntu> Fuzzles, well lxde is lighter but i must say neither is really light enough when compared to ubuntu
[08:34] <Guest88196> Sorry it was you TJ who mentioned it, echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 btcoex_enable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[08:34] <Guest88196> worked like a charm
[08:34] <Fuzzles> ok thanks for your advice guys
[08:34] <TJ-> Guest88196: thanks... we'll know to tell others about it, and I can mark the related bug as confirmed workaround, too
[08:34] <wlosio> somsip, ini_set ('magic_quotes_gpc', 1);  helped :D
[08:34] <somsip> wlosio: jolly good
[08:34] <TJ-> Guest88196: That is the AR982x right?
[08:35] <WindBuntu> i noticed lately that ubuntu 1204 is so good my rem usage etc is extremely close with ubuntu lubuntu or xubuntu
[08:35] <wlosio> after enebling rewrite in aon2mod i get 500 Error
[08:35] <Guest88196> yeah i think so
[08:35] <kiernannat87> hi all i have ubuntu 12.04 and i cannot get java to work. it says the plug in needs to be updated
[08:36] <TJ-> Guest88196: OK. I deal with some many different versions I forgot which is which
[08:36] <Guest88196> no worries
[08:37] <TJ-> Guest88196: From what i've discovered, it's the "nohwcrypt=1" that fixes the main issue
[08:38] <puddle> anyone using smplayer with eq presets?
[08:38] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Alternate is if you need the text-based installer. If you're installing 'desktop' you can use the 'desktop/live' version of the installer.
[08:40] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok well thank you so much for your time and help, if and when I get 12.04 install I will try and get hold of you once more for help ;-)
[08:40] <TJ-> BlueWolf: You're welcome; good luck with it :)
[08:41] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Thanks, I will need luck or my computer will find it'self in unworkable pieces :D
[08:42] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I know *that* feeling!
[08:42] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Thanks Cheers  ;-)
[08:43] <diverdude> can i set anything as FQDN ? default is proxmax.domain.tld
[08:44] <iivvoo> ok, f*ck it I'll upgrade to 11.10
[08:44]  * iivvoo is quite disappointed
[08:44] <WindBuntu> 1204 is nice
[08:44] <iivvoo> I need to go to 11.10 first
[08:45] <iivvoo> and just because python is broken in 11.04
[08:45] <crizis> iivvoo, you can only upgrade from LTS to LTS
[08:45] <kiernannat87> hi i have a ubuntu 12.04 can any one fix java
[08:45] <iivvoo> crizis, I know. I don't want to upgrade but I have no other option now
[08:45] <tryy3> hi iam trying to install java 6 on ubuntu 12.04 and get an error: http://pastebay.net/1149026 please help me
[08:46] <crizis> iivvoo, it won't take too many minutes, so why does it matter? :p
[08:46] <jilt007> %S
[08:46] <iivvoo> tryy3, are you running as root?
[08:46] <iivvoo> wait never mind that.
[08:46] <tryy3> iivvoo i think so...
[08:46] <iivvoo> crizis, I find upgrades risky in general
[08:47] <crizis> sure they are. rarely anything breaks too badly, anyway
[08:47] <WindBuntu> i  like clean install
[08:47] <crizis> usually most extreme fix is to remove .* files off from your home dir to get clean profile
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !LTS
[08:48] <WindBuntu> ty ubottu
[08:48] <tryy3> iivvoo any ideas why i get that error?
[08:49] <crizis> tryy3, hope you are not using software centre at same time
[08:49] <tryy3> crizis what you mean?
[08:49] <crizis> tryy3, if you're using apt from command line, you can't install stuff from software centre at the same time
[08:50] <crizis> which is what it looks like if dpkg db is locked
[08:50] <TJ-> tryy3: Are you using aptitude? Did you start it using "sudo aptitude..." ?
[08:50] <tryy3> crizis does update manager count as software centre?
[08:50] <crizis> yes
[08:50] <crizis> it does
[08:50] <tryy3> then thats the problem
[08:50] <crizis> it obviously uses package manager too
[08:50] <tryy3> hopefully
[08:51] <tryy3> i guess i wait until its done
[08:51] <buglyjoe>  kiernannat87 : could you please explain what you are trying to do?
[08:51] <ardchoille> tryy3: it's a safety issue, it prevent one installer from adding/removing packages that would conflict with what the other installer is doing.
[08:52] <tryy3> ardchoille thought so
[08:52] <kiernannat87> ok i installed java oracle 7 and it says i need to upgrade the plugin on pogo. so i got open jdk but still having the same problem i dont know how to fix it
[08:53] <ardchoille> I think that package lock was a genius idea
[08:53] <TJ-> kiernannat87: That might be a 'pogo' problem with it not detecting the Java plug-in in the browser, or it might be that the plug-in isn't enabled in the browser
[08:53] <buglyjoe> kiernannat87: which browser are you using?
[08:53] <kiernannat87> well i contacted pogo and they said it all looked fine andi made sure it was enabled is there abetter version i can use
[08:54] <kiernannat87> it worked till last week thats y so lost
[08:54] <kiernannat87> google
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !google|kiernannat87:
[08:55] <fede__> fifo992011@hotmail.com
[08:55] <kiernannat87> bobbyjoe: google
[08:57] <zergut> hello,where i can find documentation in russian language?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !ru|zergut:
[08:58] <mao> when I do "echo '2' > /sys/block/$device/queue/nr_requests", it return the error" bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument "
[08:59] <[deXter]> mao, don't use the quotes, also are you running the command as root user?
[08:59] <zergut> thanksa a lot
[09:05] <mmm4m5m> Hi. A little help please. I have laptop with WinXP and now I have ubuntu 12.04. First question - can I use clamav to scan windows drive? Second question - imagine WinXP have virus and I am have paranoia - WinXP virus is smart and could change ubuntu file system. Can I get a checksum of all ubuntu files and recheck after using WinXP (IF/when I need WinXP at all). Or is there any software in ubuntu/linux which could help? I hope I did explain it goo
[09:06] <mao> [deXter]: I try without quotes as root, and the result is the same
[09:06] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: are you dual booting or is this a wubi installation?
[09:06] <mmm4m5m> I know about samhain package... but seems it is not very easy/simple
[09:06] <mmm4m5m> cfhowlett: I hope I will use ubuntu only + virtualbox... But I am not sure yet
[09:07] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: ubuntu is virtualbox then?
[09:07] <mmm4m5m> cfhowlett: now setup is dual boot - winxp and ubuntu fresh install done after winxp
[09:07] <mao> [deXter]: i try edit it using vim, when i save the file, the error is ""nr_requests" E667: Fsync failed"
[09:07] <[deXter]> mao, What about $device, have you set it to something?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: yes you can scan your hdd.
[09:07] <mmm4m5m> cfhowlett: trying to switch to ubuntu but for work could need windows anyway
[09:08] <mmm4m5m> cfhowlett: what about second question (the paranoia part :) )
[09:08] <mao> [deXter]: yes, the $device is the name of a pcie flash
[09:08] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: unlikey that a windows virus would target HDD but possible.  Never heard of such, though.
[09:08] <[deXter]> mao, this works for me, without any errors: echo 2 > /sys/block/sdb/queue/nr_requests
[09:08] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you...
[09:09] <cfhowlett> !AV|mmm4m5m:
[09:10] <mmm4m5m> I imagine I will need to reboot in old WinXP installation... Which seems clear but who knows... I imagine I will need to do it few times only... That is how I got this idea about "checksum ubuntu binary files" before reboot in WinXP and verify after I get back to ubuntu
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|mmm4m5m:
[09:10] <llutz_> !info tripwire | mmm4m5m: look at this
[09:11] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: hashcheck the ubuntu iso at download, check your boot media.  If clean on both, install.
[09:11] <r30ng1n3rd> Hey
[09:11] <cfhowlett> r30ng1n3rd: greetings
[09:11] <r30ng1n3rd> Any one with some experience of ubuntu and Gefore GTX drivers
[09:11] <mmm4m5m> ubottu: yes, tripwire... it is similar to samhain somehow... But I forgot it. Thanks, maybe it will looks more user friendly. Thanks, will check it
[09:12] <r30ng1n3rd> hey cfhowlett .... hows the day
[09:12] <crazydip> where can i find md5 sum of current 12.04.1 iso files?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> r30ng1n3rd: hey.  Sorry, IDK about GTX
[09:12] <mmm4m5m> heh, it was from llutz_ :) - so thanks
[09:12] <cfhowlett> crazydip: on the DL page.
[09:13] <crazydip> cfhowlett, where? i checked desktop and server download pages... maybe i'm blind :(
[09:13] <cfhowlett> crazydip: wait 1
[09:13] <jilt007> When i insert bootable pendrive to  my laptop , laptop restarts automatically  ??
[09:15] <crazydip> also, why are the server torrent links on the desktop instead of server download page? makes no sense
[09:15] <mao> [deXter]: I think every device's quenefs may have its own property defined by firmware, because when i echo 2 to another device's nr_requests, the result is 4; however i echo 5 to its nr_requests, the result is 5
[09:15] <cfhowlett> crazydip: for desktop?
[09:15] <crazydip> cfhowlett, for server 64 bit
[09:16] <buglyjoe> jilt007 : it shouldn't do that normally, but it might boot from the pendrive next time you restart depending on some other factors
[09:16] <jilt007> buglyjoe:  NO , it always restarts and does nothing  when going to install from bootable pendrive
[09:17] <crazydip> cfhowlett, if i remember correctly, there used to be a link to an ftp with all the md5sum files, but i can't find that link anymore
[09:17] <buglyjoe> what is the os you currently have installed on the laptop?
[09:17] <buglyjoe>  jilt007 :  what is the os you currently have installed on the laptop?
[09:17] <jilt007> buglyjoe:    ubuntu 10.10 now want fresh install of 12.04
[09:18] <ardchoille> jilt007: my acer aspire one did this. I fixed it by telling grub to boot from the netbook hard drive
[09:18] <cfhowlett> crazydip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:18] <buglyjoe> jilt007 : how did you create the bootable usb?
[09:18] <jilt007> buglyjoe: unetbootin
[09:18] <[deXter]> mao, Possibly; you're right, the firmware + driver has to support that value too...
[09:18] <mmm4m5m> ok... I will move to the laptop now. cfhowlett - thanks to you also!! :)
[09:18] <cfhowlett> mmm4m5m: best of luck
[09:18] <jilt007> ardchoille:  Netbook hard drive , not by usb ?
[09:19] <buglyjoe>  jilt007 : unetbootin is good, but I have faced issues with it occasionally. the startup disk creator that comes with ubuntu almost always works
[09:19] <TJ-> crazydip: The MD5/SHAs are listed with the ISOs for desktop/alternate/server/wubi downloads: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/
[09:19] <ardchoille> jilt007: I used the usb stick to install ubuntu to the hard drive. after that the netbook wouldn't boot unless the usb stick was inserted. is this your issue?
[09:19] <crazydip> cfhowlett, already found that via google, it does not have current iso md5sum (12.04.1)
[09:20] <jilt007> ardchoille:  no the issue is only when i insert pen drive and restart the system, instead of installing ubuntu it always automatically restart the system
[09:20] <ardchoille> ok
[09:20] <tryy3> iam trying to install java 6 on ubuntu 12.04 and after a while of installing it i get this error http://pastebay.net/1149031
[09:20] <cfhowlett> crazydip: you're right.  Sorry for the delay.  Behind the great chinese firewall, so throttling ensues...
[09:20] <crazydip> TJ-, thanks that's it!
[09:21] <crazydip> cfhowlett, no problem, thank's for trying :) TJ-  pointed me to the correct page
[09:21] <TJ-> jilt007: Have you changed the BIOS boot-order settings to include the USB device?
[09:21] <jilt007> TJ- its obvious yar
[09:21] <buglyjoe> jilt007 : not so much, sometimes you miss things
[09:22] <ardchoille> jilt007: if you have the usb stick at the top of the order in bios the system will always boot from it instead of the hard drive if the usb stick is inserted
[09:23] <mao> [deXter]: So, if the firmware defines the device's nr_requests protected, even the kernel set it rw, when fsync the value, it occurs error
[09:23] <jilt007> ardchoille: buglyjoe TJ-    ok bye ! Have to go for Work . Thanks for valuable time!
[09:23] <crazydip> TJ-, for future reference, where did you find that link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/ on the ubuntu.com site? I still can't find anything on either the the desktop or server download pages.
[09:23] <buglyjoe> jilt007 : does it say anything at all before restarting? are you sure you haven't mixed up 64 and 32 bit?
[09:23] <buglyjoe> jilt007 : bye
[09:24] <TJ-> crazydip: I didn't look there. I always just go to the releases. site directly
[09:25] <crazydip> *sigh*
[09:25] <crazydip> thanks!
[09:25] <crazydip> page for the initiated :D
[09:26] <TJ-> crazydip: Yeah, it does look like www.ubuntu.com has been dumbed-down!
[09:27] <dr_willis> thats the new 'user friendly' way it seems with everything.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> TJ-: maybe, but seriously, how many people actually RTM or do hashchecks?
[09:28] <crazydip> TJ-, too much, especially the server page... that should have a link to md5sums :(
[09:28] <TJ-> dr_willis: You've noticed that too? Treating people like idiots... breed unaware idiots to my mind!
[09:28] <dr_willis> TJ-:  yep. makes better idiots. ;)
[09:28] <TJ-> crazydip: Report it as a bug on launchpad, I'll me-too it :p
[09:28] <TJ-> dr_willis: Explains my reputation then LOL :p
[09:28] <crazydip> TJ-, that was gonna be my next question, how do i report a bug against ubuntu.com?
[09:29] <TJ-> crazydip: Oh I'm sure you'll have to jump through hoops :p ... I have done it in the past - let me find out if the process has been dumbed down!
[09:29] <crazydip> cfhowlett, they do have a nice page, for desktop users it's okay, but for server users we kinda need basic info like md5sum
[09:30] <cfhowlett> crazydip: agreed.
[09:30] <TJ-> crazydip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15077/how-do-i-report-a-bug-against-ubuntu-com-the-ubuntu-website
[09:30] <buglyjoe>  tryy3 : the output is for java 7. I usually install java by downloading the entire archive through the browser to avoid cookie trouble and then unzipping it in the right place. how are you doing it?
[09:31] <crazydip> TJ-, thanks! that was my next entry to check on google results :D
[09:31] <TJ-> crazydip: We loves experts :)
[09:33] <Martell> Hello amigos, im on 11.04 32bit, thinking to upgrade to 12.04 64bit from live cd, is it possible? i dont wanna lose my installed software
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Martell: upgrade to 11.11 then to 12.04
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Martell: 11.10
[09:34] <Martell> cannot skip it?
[09:34] <crazydip> TJ-, there is already a bug on md5sums from last year with zero reply :(
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Martell: nope.
[09:34] <crazydip> TJ-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/873464
[09:35] <Martell> cfhowlett: so how long 11.04 will be supported? is it ended this month?
[09:35] <crazydip> TJ-, good or open a new one? cause that one is loaded
[09:35] <cfhowlett> !eol|martell
[09:36] <Martell> cfhowlett : so if the support is stopped, i can't update it manually?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> Martell: eol means eol.  NOt sure what kind of updates you would expect at that point.  Might I gently suggest you bite the bullet and upgrade to LTS releases?  12.04 is supported for 5 years ...
[09:37] <TJ-> crazydip: I did some cross-referencing. Followed the team that owns that project, then to the webmaster, then to other projects handles. It seems the proper project to report issues to is "ubuntu-website-content"
[09:38] <crazydip> TJ-, talk about confusing :D i guess dumbing it down = making it more confusing :D
[09:38] <TJ-> crazydip: Can you add that to the bug you just found, and a comment being more specific about needing checksums on the server pages?
[09:38] <crazydip> TJ-, yeah no problem
[09:38] <TJ-> crazydip: It maybe that "ubuntu-website" was more for infrastructure issues and isn't looked at that much, since Ubuntu RT is used generally to track such issues
[09:39] <Martell> cfhowlett : so i need to upgrade to 11.10 and then ugprade again to 12.04
[09:39] <crazydip> TJ-, i'll post 2 bugs to ubunt-webiste-content and  a comment to that existing bug
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Martell: yep.  or clean install 12.04.  I recommend clean install then you can upgrade LTS to LTS.
[09:40] <TJ-> crazydip: If you just add that project to the existing bug-report that'd be preferrable
[09:40] <crazydip> will do
[09:41] <TJ-> crazydip: If you can't add the additional project let me know; I'll add it
[09:42] <TJ-> crazydip: might be worth then if we add a report to rt.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <e66> Is there any gnome based audio player like rhythmbox but without it?
[09:43] <e66> I am looking for features like media collection, search feature and good ubuntu integration.
[09:44] <TJ-> e66: You've just described Rhythmbox :)
[09:44] <tryy3> buglyjoe sry for late respond, but i found a installation guide on the web, so i followed it hold on i link it to you
[09:44] <crazydip> TJ-, sorry not familiar with rt.ubuntu.com - what is it?
[09:44] <apg> e66: have you tried amarok
[09:44] <apg> ?
[09:44] <e66> TJ-:  rhythmbox has lots of other features which I dont wnat. I want only searching in collection.
[09:44] <apg> oops, sorry, amarok is kde-based
[09:45] <brontosaurusrex> e66, perhaps Audacious, dunno about media collection or ubuntu integration
[09:45] <e66> apg:  I am fan of amarok. I use it in KDE. but in gnome I am looking for something gnome based
[09:45] <TJ-> crazydip: "Request Tracker" issue ticketing system
[09:45] <tryy3> buglyjoe http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/download-and-install-sun-java-6-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-easily-with-this-script/ i came to the command sudo ./oab-java.sh further i haven't came
[09:45] <martell> since i have 12.04 64bit , and im on 11.04 32bit , so what i need is upgrade to 11.10 64bit, only then i can upgrade to 12.04. is it?
[09:45] <StefanT> e66, have a look at Clementine
[09:46] <brontosaurusrex> e66, Audacious had library and searchž
[09:46] <cfhowlett> martell: cannot upgrade from 32 to 64 bit.
[09:46] <apg> e66, what about gmusicbrowser
[09:46] <e66> brontosaurusrex StefanT I'll look at both.
[09:46] <cfhowlett> martell: you'd have to manually install it.
[09:46] <e66> btw I am dropping rhythmbox becaue it hangs for some reason.
[09:47] <martell> cfhowlett : any way to 'backup' my installed softwares, i think i want to formatted it directly to 12.04
[09:47] <cfhowlett> martell: if you change from 32 to 64, you'll need to reinstall software or face unexpected consequences and uncertain performance.
[09:48] <StefanT> e66 you can browse the Ubuntu Software Center, it contains the suggestions you got in the multimedia section
[09:48] <TJ-> martell: You can use "apt-mark" to save a list of installed packages and dependencies, then once the new install is ready, use "apt-mark" again to load the list of packages and then install them
[09:48] <crazydip> TJ-, added comment + u-w-c to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/873464
[09:48] <TJ-> crazydip: OK, I'll me-too it
[09:48] <buglyjoe> tryy3: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ from the same guy, this is what I do - it has a few manual steps but it works
[09:48] <cfhowlett> cookie|TJ-:
[09:49] <cfhowlett> TJ-: thanks.  I didn't know that.
[09:49] <crazydip> TJ-, so if i have another bug for the website content wise i should use u-w-c right?
[09:49] <brontosaurusrex> e66, also DeadBeef has a good search, dunno about library
[09:49] <tryy3> buglyjoe is java 7 safe to use?
[09:49] <tryy3> safe/stable*
[09:49] <martell> cfhowlett : so i just need to download 12.04 32bit, any way to 'backup' my installed softwares? so i can skip the 11.10
[09:49] <e66> brontosaurusrex: if there is search there is collection or library.
[09:50] <TJ-> crazydip: I think so, yes. I've "Confirmed" that bug against u-w-c and I'll raise an RT ticket linking it later
[09:50] <brontosaurusrex> e66, nope, can only be playlist search
[09:50] <cfhowlett> martell: see tj's suggestion of "apt-mark".  Didn't you state you wanted to go to 64 bit?
[09:50] <crazydip> TJ-, thanks a lot! :)
[09:50] <e66> brontosaurusrex: it must create some sort of collection. otherwise where will search?
[09:51] <brontosaurusrex> e66, the silly playlist?
[09:51] <martell> so it just save the list of my installed softwares, basically i need to download them back
[09:51] <brontosaurusrex> e66, and thats exactly how DeadBeef works, just tested ...
[09:51] <buglyjoe>  tryy3 : let me outit this way, I downgraded a prod server from 7 to 6 only yesterday. I can't pin it on 7 but there has been a lot of instability lately which I never had earlier. I still use 7 on my desktop though
[09:52] <cfhowlett> martell: as I understand it, right.  I've not used this method, so perhaps TJ can add some insight...
[09:52] <TJ-> martell: See the answer to this question for how to use it. http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-from-backup-of-dpkg-set-selections
[09:52] <tryy3> buglyjoe so java 6 better for server?
[09:53] <TJ-> martell: After installing the new system and running "apt-mark..." to select the packages, you do "sudo apt-get -f install" to have the selections installed
[09:53] <buglyjoe>  tryy3 : it works for me, for tomcats under medium load : 75-100 concurrent users peak
[09:54] <tryy3> buglyjoe i guess i go with java 7 then :D
[09:54] <buglyjoe>  tryy3 : sure :-)
[09:57] <digitroid> Hello
[09:58] <cfhowlett> digitroid: greetings
[09:58] <captine> hi there.  running 12.04 on Acer Aspire 4755G.  Bluetooth is not working?  dmesg | grep Blue shows output as at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257641/
[09:58] <martell> are all servers in ppa contain the latest version of any packages? lets say i use "X" server but it doesnt have the latest WINE , should i use the "Main Server" to get a better option?
[09:58] <TJ-> captine: Have you checked that 'rfkill' isn't on? "rfkill list"
[09:59] <martell> TJ-: thanks mate, will try it
[10:00] <captine> TJ-, just ran that.  soft and hard block say "no".  not sure what that means.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257644/
[10:00] <tryy3> buglyjoe mind linking me to right download? the one in that tutorial gives me an error
[10:01] <TJ-> captine: That's good - it means that the radio transmitters *are not* killed - in other words, they should be working
[10:01] <andtorg> hi, is there anyy shortcut to set a shell window title?
[10:01] <jrib> martell: ppa contain whatever packages the author puts in them.  They aren't necessarily the latest.  It depends on the ppa.
[10:02] <abdelghani> hi guys
[10:02] <abdelghani> anyway to install a printer?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> abdelghani: yowza
[10:02] <cfhowlett> abdelghani: printer specifics?
[10:03] <StefanT> andtorg gnome-terminal has a shortcut that is unset, but you can set your own
[10:03] <abdelghani> hp deskjet 1000
[10:03] <TJ-> captine: how about the output of this? "grep -i bluetooth /var/log/syslog"
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !hplib|abdelghani:
[10:03] <apg> abdelgani, have you tried using hplip driver?
[10:04] <abdelghani> no yet
[10:04] <TJ-> cfhowlett: "hplip" ?
[10:04] <cfhowlett> TJ-: errr no, hplib?  hplib tools?  Help?
[10:04] <captine> TJ.  good thing.  when i select the Bluetooth icon next to my time, and click preferences, the Bluetooth is shown as off...   http://imgur.com/cZJNK
[10:04] <captine> TJ-, grep -i blue...  doesnt output anything
[10:05] <TJ-> cfhowlett: I thought it was "hplip" as in HP LIne Printer"
[10:05] <abdelghani> thank you guys it has been installed already
[10:05] <abdelghani> many thanks
[10:05] <TJ-> captine: OK, the syslog may have been rotated. Try "grep -i bluetooth /var/log/syslog.1"
[10:05] <tryy3> buglyjoe you still there?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> TJ-: wait, so just solved the whole hpli* thing, right?
[10:07] <apg> he has quit
[10:07] <captine> TJ-, that gives a lot.  lots of fails...   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257656/
[10:07] <TJ-> cfhowlett: I'm not sure what the original ask was, but for my HP printers, the packages are "hplip hplip-data"
[10:08] <TJ-> captine: We're making progress then :)
[10:08] <cfhowlett> TJ-: ok.  ttyl
[10:08] <andtorg> StefanT, is unset supposed to be an option for gnome-terminal? cannot find it
[10:09] <TJ-> captine: That doesn't look too bad. Those plug-in errors are something I see too
[10:09] <TJ-> captine: How about this: "hciconfig"
[10:09] <ardchoille> andtorg: "unset" as in a command?
[10:09] <tryy3> can anyone link me to latest java jdk 7?
[10:10] <captine> TJ-, hciconfig doesnt output anything
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> tryy3  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7
[10:10] <choct155> Afraid my 12.04 LTS still does not boot consistently on my ASUS U46E.  I have tried updating GRUB, fixing broken packages in recovery mode (which is just as unreliable as the normal boot), and editing the boot script to include the NOMODESET option.  Any other remedies?  (Intel® Core™ i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz × 4; VESA: Intel®Sandybridge Mobile Graphics)
[10:10] <tryy3> MonkeyDust thanks :D
[10:10] <TJ-> andtorg: Terminal is just a program; If you're writing shell-script you should look at the BASH manual: "man bash"
[10:11] <TJ-> captine: OK, that helps. We need to find the BT device. Usually its hung on the USB bus, so how about "lsusb"
[10:11] <vectorshelve> what is the command to empty a file ?
[10:11] <TJ-> vectorshelve: Do you mean "remove" the file, or make it 0 bytes long?
[10:12] <vectorshelve> TJ-: erase all contents
[10:12] <dr_willis> choct155:  whats unreliable about it. and what is it failing to do at 'some' boots?
[10:12] <TJ-> vectorshelve: I think you mean "shred" ... try "man shred" at a terminal
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> vectorshelve  echo " " > filename
[10:13] <ardchoille> ^^ that works
[10:13] <ardchoille> was going to suggest that
[10:13] <dr_willis> vectorshelve:  or remove, then  touch, to make a new empty file?
[10:13] <captine> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257662/  nothing mentioning Bluetooth...
[10:13] <dr_willis> rm foo && touch foo
[10:13] <vectorshelve> MonkeyDust: dr_willis thanks
[10:13] <smw> vectorshelve, truncate -s 0
[10:13] <smw> vectorshelve, truncate -s 0 file.foo
[10:13] <choct155> dr_willis, sometimes it gets through the boot sequence and sometimes it doesn't.  when i boot in recovery, it hangs on the same screen which seems to be dominated by this error "PEBS disabled due to CPU errata"
[10:13] <dr_willis> dozen ways to do this. ;)
[10:14] <toshgsh> how can i know if my laptop has a perfomance problem?
[10:14] <smw> vectorshelve, or just     > file.foo, MonkeyDust's answer will not empty it
[10:14] <choct155> it basically hangs during the purple screen during a normal boot
[10:14] <barang> exit
[10:14] <smw> dr_willis, yes, a dozen ways to do it :-)
[10:14] <vectorshelve> smw: thanks.. so many ways for the same purpose :)
[10:15] <fly-away> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2065762
[10:15] <dr_willis> choct155:  sounds to me like there some deeper hardware/bios/acpi/kernel issue.
[10:15] <smw> vectorshelve, I am partial to the truncate command myself
[10:15] <dr_willis> choct155:  but if you reboot, sometimes it does work?
[10:15] <smw> vectorshelve, have fun :-)
[10:15] <TJ-> choct155: If the hang is related to that PEBS disabled report, it may be a CPU microcode issues. See this https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/7/145
[10:15]  * smw realizes it is 3:15 and that he should be sleeping
[10:15] <xrosnight> hey guys i am here
[10:16] <xrosnight> what'sup everyone
[10:16] <xrosnight> :D
[10:17] <TJ-> captine: bear with me. I'm trying to discover if that unnamed device (ID 1d57:0008) might be it
[10:17] <choct155> dr_willis, not sure if that comment got through.  yes, it does work sometimes
[10:17] <choct155> i just have to keep rebooting until it doesn't get hung up
[10:17] <choct155> Thanks for the suggestion TJ, I will take a look
[10:17] <captine> TJ-, thanks a mil for the help.  no rush.  havent had it working for months :-)  just trying to finish the setup.  How do you go about trying to figure that out re the  unnamed device?
[10:18] <dr_willis> choct155:  have you tested with 12.10 yet? it may be something that has allready been fixed also.
[10:18] <TJ-> captine: All USB devices have unique IDs (like PCI devices) of the form vendor:product. In that case its the "1d57:0008" which are 2 16-bit hexadecimal numbers
[10:18] <ardchoille> Wowsers, it seems lightdm can be themed just as easily as GDM was
[10:19] <choct155> dr_willis:  no, I was concerned that it would be even less reliable, but perhaps I should
[10:19] <TJ-> captine: I may have something. Do you know if the BT module might be "Ralink/Motorola BC4 Bluetooth 3.0 + HS Adapter"
[10:20] <captine> TJ-, I have no idea.  let me see if i can find out on the Acer website (they pretty vague on their detail...)
[10:20] <TJ-> captine: In fact, what make/model is the PC? That might help me more to match reports
[10:21] <captine> TJ-, Acer Aspire 4755G i7
[10:22] <buglyjoe> ardchoille : could you expand on that - lightdm customization? I do know about the simple-lightdm-manager
[10:22] <TJ-> captine: according to this its either an Atheros or Broadcom device: http://support.acer.com/product/default.aspx?modelId=3803
[10:23] <bekks> lspci / lusb should clear that up.
[10:23] <TJ-> captine: Let's check if its a mini-PCI device. Can you pastebin the result of this please? "lspci -nn"
[10:24] <ardchoille> buglyjoe: install lightdm-gtk-greeter then have a look at /usr/share/lightdm-gtk-greeter/greeter.ui
[10:24] <captine> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257676/
[10:24] <ardchoille> buglyjoe: that file is an xml file allowing you to dictate everything about the ui
[10:24] <ardchoille> same as the GDM themes were
[10:26] <captine> TJ-, most things are broadcom, just not sure how to be sure which is the Bluetooth.
[10:26] <buglyjoe> ardchoille : yes, i am using the lightdm-gtk-greeter myself. I find the other thing too heavy. but I didn't know about that file. I've done some basic stuff in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf. thanks :-)
[10:26] <Kwask> Hi guys. Can you tell me how to partion running system? I have one big partition /dev/sda(/) 140GigaB, udev(/dev), tmpfs(/run), none(/run/lock), none(/run/shm). Have 6 users with shell access and in future possibly apache, etc.
[10:26] <ardchoille> buglyjoe: yeah, that file is quite nice. you're welcome :)
[10:27] <bekks> Kwask: You cannot partition a running system, you have to do it offline.
[10:27] <dr_willis> Kwask:  its not clear what you need either..  if you got / on a 140gb partition and swap. (the rest dont matter)
[10:28] <TJ-> captine: I think I have found the issue (missing driver). To confirm, can you pastebin "rfkill list" please?
[10:28] <captine> TJ-, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257644/
[10:28] <Kwask> bekks: just thought there may be a way to partition system for better security and speed - was guessing.
[10:29] <dr_willis> Kwask:  speed? put /home/ on a ssd. ;)
[10:29] <Kwask> dr_willis: Hah, I wish I had resources for that=]
[10:29] <bekks> Kwask: Partitioning has nothing to do with speed or security. :)
[10:29] <dr_willis> Kwask:  /home/ on its own partition or hd = easier to upgrade
[10:29] <ardchoille> always good to have /home on its own partition
[10:29] <nurfed> hi, each time when I restart gnome-panel. it adds new objects to it. why does this happen/ how can i stop this from happening?
[10:30] <dr_willis> Kwask:  got a 128gb ssd for $100 the other day
[10:30] <ardchoille> ssd's are getting cheaper
[10:30] <dr_willis> boot tome  here = faster then i can sit down after hitting the power button ;P
[10:31] <dr_willis> once i realized i had the ssd on the 3gb sata speed port.. and moved it to the 6 speed one.. it went faster. ;)
[10:31] <llutz_> who cares about boot-time? 5 or 35 secs once a day...
[10:31] <Kwask> dr_willis: :-)
[10:31] <bekks> llutz_++ :)
[10:31] <dr_willis> laptop users who reboot a lot.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> I have 11days uptile now
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> uptime
[10:32] <veryape> heh, i reboot when i update the kernel
[10:32] <ardchoille> dr_willis: yep, netbook user here
[10:32] <TJ-> captine: False lead. OK. Those unknown Broadcom PCI sub-devices are all card-reader types. So I'm going back to that unnamed USB device
[10:32] <veryape> only time i reboot
[10:32] <llutz_> dr_willis: you ever heard about suspend? ;)
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> veryape  same here
[10:32] <captine> TJ-, thanks a mill for all the time you putting into this.
[10:32] <veryape> but sure, ssd is really nice, opening libre office writer in 1,5 sec never bores me :)
[10:33] <dr_willis> llutz_:  i normally hear about it in here and the many times it fails to work properly
[10:33] <TJ-> captine: Let's find out more about it: "lsusb -d 1d57:0008"
[10:33] <nurfed> nobody? :/
[10:33] <captine> TJ-, output is "lsusb -d 1d57:0008"
[10:33] <captine> sorry
[10:33] <captine> TJ-, output is "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1d57:0008 "
[10:33] <dr_willis> nurfed:  nobody what?
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> veryape  i'm testing ksplice, so even a new kernel does not need a reboot
[10:34] <TJ-> captine: doh! I didn't give you the complete command *facepalm
[10:34] <Resager> Please, help. I can`t compile UnBeeline for my usb-modem. Please, compile! Code http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257686/ gcc -lusb -o UnBeeline UnBeeline.c
[10:34] <TJ-> captine:  "lsusb -vd 1d57:0008"
[10:34] <nurfed> dr_willis: i got some problem with gnome-panel. posted it a bit above, but no answers.
[10:35] <captine> TJ-, too much to paste in irc :-)  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1257688/
[10:36] <TJ-> captine: I expected that :p
[10:37] <TJ-> captine: You seem to have the unique honour of being the only person in the world, that is trying to run Ubuntu on that Aspire 4755G !
[10:37] <TJ-> captine: OK, that device is a mouse
[10:38] <captine> TJ-, funny thing is, it sells with freedos or something on it... no windows :-).  they do include a disclaimer in the box that says it is made for Windows and not all will work with other OS's
[10:38] <TJ-> captine: I think I need to read the "/var/log/dmesg" - pastebin?
[10:39] <veryape> monkeydust: ok, i'll do it the old fasioned way, i can live with it now that i have a ssd ;)
[10:39] <TJ-> captine: I'm getting to the point of suspecting either a) the device is disconnected internally, or b) there is no bluetooth hardware in the PC (b) I've seen before too - specifications for a model are inaccurate and turns out BT is an *option* that most people don't end up buying
[10:40] <mao> how to kill a process whose status is D
[10:40] <captine> TJ-, should i dump the full dmesg log?
[10:41] <TJ-> captine: If you have installed pastebinit ("sudo apt-get install pastebinit") you can simply do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and tell me the URL
[10:42] <captine> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257694/
[10:42] <TJ-> captine: On the Acer specifications page the Bluetooth devices is listed as "Communication - WPAN" and has a footnote 1 which reads "Specifications vary depending on model."
[10:43] <TJ-> captine: http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2011/Acer/Aspire/Aspire4755G/Aspire4755Gsp2.shtml
[10:45] <captine> TJ-, mmmm.  so did i get shafted... and perhaps dont have Bluetooth...
[10:46] <TJ-> Was it sold to you as having BT? It's worth opening it up and physically inspecting for a BT module. Rather like WiFi modules, it is easy to spot since it'll have antenna connections
[10:47] <captine> TJ-, i believe it was, but purchased in the Philippines where i am currently staying, so could have been lost in translation...
[10:49] <TJ-> captine: Does the model label on the base have extra chars/nums after the "4755g" - they usually differentiate the sub-models like that
[10:51] <Qasaur> Hey guys I have a major problem
[10:51] <Qasaur> I can't seem to hear music from my headphone jack on my laptop
[10:51] <Qasaur> it works through the speakers and my USB headphones
[10:52] <Qasaur> but when I plug in earphones it doesn't work
[10:52] <Qasaur> any solutions?
[10:52] <captine> TJ-, there is a sticker that says "this device contains Bluetooth module --- broadcom bcm92070
[10:52] <TJ-> captine: oooooo!!
[10:53] <captine> TJ-, should have looked there first :P
[10:54] <TJ-> captine: Well we'd still be just as confused seeing as there's nothing in the lspci output to show the hardware is there. This is what that device looks like visually, for your reference (in case you open it up to prove it is, in fact, installed and connected) http://www.ebay.com/itm/290782525450
[10:56] <captine> TJ-, let me shut down and try open up.
[10:58] <superbuntu> hello, anyone know why i'm stuck in native 1900x1200 resolution after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 beta2??
[10:58] <superbuntu> its heating up my computer
[10:59] <superbuntu> or is there a way i can control my fan speed?
[10:59] <superbuntu> i installed thinkfan in the packages manager
[10:59] <superbuntu> but i don't know how to run thinkfan
[10:59] <mmaddeee> hii ..
[10:59] <mmaddeee> superubuntu
[10:59] <superbuntu> i'd rather just sort out the resolution issue
[10:59] <mmaddeee> can u  check ps -ef
[10:59] <mmaddeee> how much memory is being consumed there ??
[10:59] <superbuntu> i'm STUCK in max 1900x1200 resolution
[11:00] <mmaddeee> does it mean u cant open ur terminal ?
[11:00] <superbuntu> where?
[11:00] <superbuntu> no, i'm there
[11:00] <superbuntu> "ps -ef" displayed a huge list
[11:00] <superbuntu> which value do you want?
[11:01] <mmaddeee> prstat -a
[11:01] <mmaddeee> ignore ps -ef
[11:01] <mmaddeee> prstat -a
[11:01] <Qasaur> god damnit
[11:01] <mmaddeee> check the processes and how much memory every process is consuming
[11:01] <Qasaur> no one here wants to help me
[11:01] <superbuntu> well
[11:02] <superbuntu> mmaddee, i'm fine in idle
[11:02] <superbuntu> i was fine before the upgrade from 12.04
[11:02] <mmaddeee> http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-view-and-limit-process-cpu-usage-in-ubuntu-linux
[11:02] <superbuntu> but now, Day of Defeat Source
[11:02] <mmaddeee> check this. it will surely help u
[11:02] <mmaddeee> going for lunch . be back soon buddy .. i am damn hungry
[11:02] <superbuntu> its DODS that is heating up the motherboard
[11:02] <superbuntu> i have a thinkpad T61P
[11:02] <mmaddeee> google CPU Usage in  ubuntu. and check out the command line
[11:03] <superbuntu> its really great
[11:03] <mmaddeee> u will get to know some commands to use
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> mmaddeee  don't say 'google it' when people ask for help
[11:03] <karthick87> Getting error on apt-get update, how to fix it? Can anyone help me pls.. Here is the error >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257735/
[11:04] <jrib> !maverick | karthick87
[11:04] <secret> hi
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> karthick87  you're updating a dead release
[11:04] <jrib> karthick87: maverick is no longer supported; you should upgrade
[11:04] <Guest8703> :)
[11:04] <karthick87> jrib: We use apt-cacher-ng server for installing packages locally
[11:05] <karthick87> How ever we use 100 ubuntu systems with 10.10 os
[11:05] <jrib> karthick87: right and 10.10 is not getting security updates any more.  It's not supported. You should upgrade them
[11:05] <pzn> need a hint about which protocol/tool to use for exporting raw disk devices via local layer2 network. any hints?
[11:06] <karthick87> Where our software only works in ubuntu 10.10
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> karthick87  how so?
[11:08] <karthick87> jrib: How to remove that java ppa from terminal??
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge
[11:08] <captine> TJ-, can see the wifi, but not Bluetooth (only opened the section where hdd and ram are.  not sure if Bluetooth could be hidden in the less accessible parts...
[11:08] <karthick87> MonkeyDust: We use a CTI server, where it supports only ubuntu version 10.10
[11:09] <TJ-> captine: Often it can be, as its so small. On my Dell its under the speaker panel above the keyboard
[11:09] <Qasaur> Hey guys
[11:09] <Qasaur> can anyone see this?
[11:09] <TJ-> captine: I'm still trying to find the PCI IC of the BCM 92070 ! It's an elusive device, almost as elusive as the module itself
[11:09] <jrib> Qasaur: yes
[11:09] <captine> TJ-, ok, well i am a little reluctant to pull every screw out :)  already voided the warranty opening the ram section
[11:10] <bekks> karthick87: Well, 10.10 isnt supported anymore. Regardless of the software you using on it.
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> karthick87  be creative find a way to update
[11:12] <ardchoille> I thought ubuntu releases were supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server
[11:12] <jrib> !lts | ardchoille
[11:12] <jrib> ardchoille: non-lts versions are supported for 18 months
[11:12] <ardchoille> ah, my bad
[11:12] <ardchoille> jrib: thanks for that info
[11:12]  * ardchoille needs to stick to LTS releases
[11:12] <TJ-> captine: No, don't do that. I think I've found the PCI ID on this site (search the page for "BCM92070" . "USB\VID_0489&PID_E030" http://www.smartpctools.com/drivers/Broadcom_Bluetooth_USB_2.html
[11:13] <prath> hi, someone an ivy bridge hd4000 on ubuntu 12.04, the i915 driver loads but x does use the vesa driver, its a 216 chipset and a Xeon 1245v2
[11:13] <TJ-> captine: These chipsets can be on PCI or USB buses, but that one is USB. Makes me wonder if it is a USB device on your PC, too
[11:13] <ardchoille> karthick87: 12.04 is one of the best distros I've ever seen.. and I've been running Linux distros since 2001
[11:13] <nirav> hey i am new in ubuntu...once i download theme..& try to open with theme installer..it coulnot open...but till then when i try to open any drive or folder from places it open apperance prefernce...anybody can help me?
[11:14] <TJ-> captine: The problem is, that page lists several alternative IDs as you search down. Not sure I trust the page, or the info
[11:14] <jrib> karthick87: yes, I'd encourage you to upgrade to 12.04, then you don't have to worry about it until 2017 :)
[11:14] <captine> TJ-, was about to ask about that ...
[11:15] <ardchoille> Seriously, 12.04 was the first time everything worked out-of-the-box on all of my machines. I was kinda bored after installing it because I didn't have to do anything
[11:15] <karthick87> jrib: We will do that ASAP :)
[11:16] <TJ-> captine: The reason is, the BT chipset BCM92070 has to sit behind a bus chipset such as USB or PCI, and that can often present a totally different vendor:product ID - one belonging to the board maker
[11:17] <zhog>  /server irc.ogamenet.net
[11:17] <zhog> sorry
[11:17] <nirav> hey i am new in ubuntu...once i download theme..& try to open with theme installer..it coulnot open...but till then when i try to open any drive or folder from places it open apperance prefernce...anybody can help me?
[11:17] <jrib> ardchoille: "you know you're a linux user when..."
[11:17] <ardchoille> jrib: hehe
[11:18] <jrib> nirav: what ubuntu version?
[11:18] <nirav> 11.04
[11:18] <ardchoille> jrib: reminds me of how stable and rock-solid Dapper Drake was
[11:18] <nkls> can compiz work with 16 bit? i have flickering with 24 when i want to watch the movies?
[11:18] <jrib> nirav: open nautilus, right click on a directory, go to properties, open with
[11:19] <nkls> i change in 16 bit in xorg-conf but i loose compiz
[11:20] <captine> TJ-, i may have to call it a night and get some sleep.  Thanks for all the help.  will reboot now and check if there is anything in the bios that is maybe causing an issue.  Thanks again for assisting.  i have notes on everything and will keep tracking how it is eventually resolved
[11:20] <TJ-> captine: I may have stumbled onto a clue. I found a report of an Acer user with Ubuntu, who needed to boot Windows first and using the BT drivers to enable the hardware. That reminds me that there are some devices that hide behind others and need special driver-actions (that usually the manufacturers don't tell the Linux developers)
[11:21] <captine> TJ-, interesting.
[11:21] <TJ-> captine: You're welcome. Shout me again sometime if you want to continue the hunt!
[11:21] <captine> dont have windows though
[11:21] <crizis> just buy certified hardware and never stress about compability problems
[11:21] <TJ-> captine: This gave me the hint: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+question/205153
[11:21] <cag> Hi all, I now have a file end with .warc. How can I extract it? It is Heritrix's output file and analyse it to get usefull information. Waiting...
[11:23] <bazhang> cag, what is heritrix
[11:23] <nkls> i have compiz installed and when i switch the 16 bit in xorg-conf i lost compiz. i need to work with 16 bit cos i dont have in that case flickering while i watching movies. anybody?
[11:23] <TJ-> captine:  I've just found something new. It's possible you need to use one or more options of the "acer_wmi" kernel module to poke it. I wonder if that module is already loaded? "lsmod | grep acer"
[11:23] <cag> bazhang: It is a web crawler.
[11:24] <bazhang> cag, so what are you expecting to extract from the .warc file
[11:24] <crizis> nkls, likely it cannot work with 16bits, and likely your movies would flicker then too (+look like crap).
[11:24] <bazhang> nkls, why not use unity-2d or gnome-panel (classic, no effects)
[11:24] <cag> bazhang: It want to build a web and I need to analyse the html's file crawlered. But It seems that all the file are compress in a file.
[11:25] <crizis> nkls, and/or depending on your gfx card, install proprietary drivers if you have ati or nvidia, open source ones are very very buggy
[11:25] <cag> bazhang: So, I don't know how to start.
[11:25] <bazhang> cag, have you contacted the maker/maintainer of heritrix?
[11:26] <cag> bazhang: I have seeked the manual and google, but many just told about the format of ".warc" file.
[11:27] <cag> bazhang: Found nothing help to go on to date.
[11:27] <bazhang> cag, whats the connection to ubuntu support here
[11:28] <cag> bazhang: --|| But I use ubuntu. I think someone know the command to decompress.
[11:28] <martell> hah
[11:34] <arcsky> hello got a question regarding screen. i connect to my shell with putty and type inside a screen window cat test.txt and it doesnt show my all the lines should be around 159 lines and i cant scroll it up... what could be the issue here?
[11:35] <niervol> try Ctrl+PgUp
[11:35] <jrib> arcsky: use less, or learn to use screen's scrollback
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> i use alt-page up
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> in byobu/screen
[11:37] <fidel> hi i cant start liferea (rss reader in stalled on 12.04 from default sources) cause of a missing shared library -> libwebkit-1.0.so.2. I somehow remember that apt is able to tell me which package might contain this .so - but dont remember the details. any pointer/keyword?
[11:38] <dr_willis> !find libwebkit
[11:38]  * jrib wonders if fidel used apt to install liferea
[11:38] <fidel> jrib: yep
[11:38] <crizis> arcsky, cat test.txt | more
[11:38] <fidel> but then again i was messing around with the lierea dev ppa for a while (disabled now)
[11:39] <dr_willis> yea. would be weird if it dident pull in the needed debs
[11:39] <Kittens_> man, finding random towers in your house is a godsend
[11:39] <jrib> crizis: stop wasting cats
[11:39] <fidel> dr_willis: jrib i deinstalled lifera already for testing issues and reinstalled it afterwards - no effects at all- still throwing that missing .so error message
[11:39] <mmaddeee> u there superubuntu ?
[11:40] <jrib> fidel: apt-cache policy liferea
[11:40] <fidel> Installed: 1.8.3-0.1ubuntu2 jrib
[11:40] <jrib> fidel: « which liferea »
[11:41] <fidel> jrib: /usr/local/bin/liferea
[11:41] <jrib> fidel: :x
[11:42] <fidel> jrib: shouldnt that be /usr/bin/liferea?
[11:43] <jrib> fidel: the one you installed through apt is /usr/bin/liferea, yes
[11:43] <fidel> lol
[11:43] <fidel> that explains the major part
[11:43] <jrib> fidel: if you run /usr/bin/liferea, does everything seem ok?
[11:43] <fidel> yep
[11:44] <jrib> fidel: ok, so now just remove that install you have in /usr/local/
[11:44] <fidel> jrib: last question i assume: how to redefine /usr/bin/liferea to default?
[11:44] <jrib> fidel: ideally, you would remove the install you have in /usr/local/
[11:45] <fidel> jrib: i still wonder where that one come from. i remember only having tried the dev-ppa - but not installing it manually or compiling it myself at all
[11:45] <fidel> jrib: so removing it manually from /usr/local/bin is the way to go?
[11:46] <jrib> fidel: packages shouldn't install to /usr/local/ but maybe you had a package that didn't follow the rules.  Does « dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/liferea » turn anything up?
[11:46] <fidel> jrib: no path found matching pattern in /usr/local/bin/liferea
[11:47] <jrib> fidel: probably just a compile you forgot about then
[11:47] <fidel> jrib: looks like - but i still doubt it hehe. so removing it manually is the way to go right?
[11:48] <jrib> fidel: yep
[11:48] <fidel> jrib: thanks for your help.
[11:52] <jrib> fidel: sure, no problem
[11:52] <Kittens> anyone here know much about using a PS3 controller with lubuntu? I'm having a few problems detecting the controller
[11:52] <captainjamie> when I do sudo chmod 777 -R -c /media/myUSB the permissions change but change back straight away to rw-r--r-- and I can't change the permissions in nautilus either, even though I'm the owner! Does anyone know what's happening?
[11:53] <jrib> captainjamie: what filesystem?
[11:53] <captainjamie> FAT32...
[11:53] <jrib> !vfat | captainjamie
[11:53] <bekks> On a FAT32, you cant use POSIX permissions.
[11:53] <Kittens> or...maybe it works?
[11:53] <captainjamie> Oh I see
[11:53] <Kittens> jstest seems to be okay with it :D
[11:56] <apg> !FUSE
[11:56] <Kittens> how would I reconnect a device via terminal?
[11:56] <violetina> i have an issue with ffmpeg libav , colors are wrong on xvid mpg and other codecs , as i'm a gentoo user i have no idea on how to reinstall ffmpeg in ubuntu , , 12.04 lts version btw , just try apt-get install ffmpeg ??
[11:57] <muelli> Kittens: bluetooth? I guess hcitool
[11:57] <Kittens> it's corded atm
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> violetina  ffmpeg is now replaced by avconv
[11:57] <Kittens> it was working a minute ago, then I unplugged it (dumb idea) to try to make bluetooth work
[11:57] <Kittens> woe is me it didn't reconnect when I plugged it back in
[11:58] <muelli> Kittens: USB? I don't think you can. Except unloading the driver.
[11:58] <violetina> avconv? not libav?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> !find avconv
[11:59] <violetina> hiow to search with apt-get? srry but i reall never used it before
[12:00] <muelli> violetina: search what? There is apt-cache search
[12:00] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Isnt the development of avconv far behind ffmpeg?
[12:01] <violetina> i just want to see which version ffmpeg / avconv is installed
[12:02] <Kittens> muelli: okay, so hcitool echos back hci0 <mac address of controller> but the bluetooth devices panel keeps disconnecting and reconnecting the device (or so it seems) any idea why that would be?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> bekks  not sure
[12:03] <TJ-> Kittens: You could try restarting the bluetooth daemon: "sudo service bluetooth restart" (if that fails, disable BT using the hardware RF kill switch, if the PC has one)
[12:03] <dr_willis> you could do 'ffmpeg --version'   ;)
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> bekks  the information on askubuntu seems more in favour of avconv
[12:06] <Kittens> TJ-: the main problem here is that it flickers between detecting the device and searching for the device
[12:07] <Kittens> so I'm just at a loss :|
[12:07] <TJ-> Kittens: bluetooth 'flickers' ? You mean a GUI component flickers? Or the entire screen flickers?
[12:08] <Kittens> the bluetooth devices screen flips between "hey, I found it!" and "where did it go?"
[12:08] <tyler_d> I'm having a problem wherein my mouse has "Double-click" issues on single click, I think it is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/365300 but don't see the resolution there
[12:08] <TJ-> Kittens: If you suspect a problem check the log files. /var/log/kern.log , /var/log/syslog  and others in /var/log/ maybe
[12:08] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Well, the history of the fork and the features of ffmpeg compared to avconv are another point ;)
[12:08] <TJ-> Kittens: hmmm, does that continue to happen after a PC restart?
[12:08] <Kittens> I...should try that
[12:08] <Kittens> after I check the logs
[12:09] <TJ-> Kittens: Annoying - but often saves time!
[12:10] <matt_> in xubuntu how do i make a jar file excutable
[12:11] <Guest39459> in xubuntu how do i make a jar file excutable
[12:11] <bekks> Guest39459: The same way as on all other hosts
[12:11] <violetina> http://imagebin.org/230746  << to give an idea about the issue i was talking about i was off a bit as wifi acting funky fromtime :x
[12:11] <matt__> bekks, there isnt no tick box
[12:11] <bekks> matt__: ??
[12:12] <RiXtEr> is there anyway to clean up the .deb files once they are downloaded?
[12:12] <matt__> bekks, for the jar file
[12:12] <RiXtEr> after they are installed that is.
[12:12] <tyler_d> Guest39459: from term do chmod +x <<myfile>>.jar
[12:12] <Hatori> rixter, autoclean and clean from apt-get
[12:12] <bekks> matt__: You dont need it to be executable. Just run it: java -jar yourjarfile.jar
[12:13] <RiXtEr> Hatori, Thank you!
[12:13] <TJ-> Guest39459: .jar files aren't executable, they're defined-layout ZIP archives. You launch them with "java -jar <jar-name>"
[12:14] <Hatori> rixter,but maybe better keeps deb files on cache
[12:14] <RiXtEr> Hatori, using a chromebook and running low on space
[12:15] <tyler_d> no love on the double input via mouse/keyboard ?
[12:15] <matt__> TJ-, the jar file wont run its minecraft
[12:16] <cyphase> what's your issue matt__?
[12:16] <Hatori> rixter, if your /var resides on separate partition ... Keep them if not on low space
[12:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: if you're having minecraft problems i suggest you go to irc.esper.net and join #minecrafthelp
[12:16] <TJ-> matt__: Are you trying to start it from a Terminal or from a launcher icon?
[12:17] <thek> I like the new Unity interface in 12.04 but I'd like to find or make a feature which enables me to quickly switch windows belonging to the currently active application. Is there a way to do that already?
[12:17] <matt__> cyphase, im tring to run the minecraft jar for linux in xubuntu
[12:17] <crizis> thek, yes. hold super- button to see the shortcuts
[12:17] <crizis> alt-section is the key for that
[12:18] <TJ-> thek: hold down the Super/Windows key and read the tips for "Switching" hint: Alt+`
[12:18] <thek> ack
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: open a terminal (ctrl-alt-t) then type "java -jar minecraft.jar"
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> making sure you're in the directory of the jar
[12:18] <thek> wow.. holding down the key shows short cuts.. I've been using this for month without realizing that.
[12:18] <TJ-> thek: It's well-hidden isn't it? :p
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> super- button?
[12:18] <crizis> WhereIsMySpoon, aka windows button
[12:18] <bekks> WhereIsMySpoon: The windows key :)
[12:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh ok
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> havent heard it called that before
[12:19] <balajeerc> Is it normal for lsusb to list two wireless network adapters while I have only one usb wireless adapter connected? http://codepad.org/9t0hGtZx
[12:19] <crizis> thek, also remember that by hitting alt you can search applications menus too
[12:19] <matt__> WhereIsMySpoon, how to i change dir
[12:19] <Kittens> restarting didn't seem to reset/reload the driver, TJ-
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: cd a/d
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> whatever dirtectory your jar is in
[12:19] <TJ-> balajeerc: Congrats. You had twins :p
[12:19] <matt__> WhereIsMySpoon, whats a/d
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> so "cd Downloads/minecraft" for example
[12:19] <bekks> balajeerc: You have one built-in wifi adapter in your computer. And another one that you plugged in.
[12:19] <cyphase> matt__, oh, xubuntu. well, like WhereIsMySpoon said, you can do java -jar path/to/minecraft.jar
[12:19] <thek> crizis: what is the "selection" button? Left mouse button?
[12:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> or that works too
[12:20] <TJ-> Kittens: I'm not sure what the issue is then, especially if there are no clues in the logs. Maybe the device batteries are dying? Have you tried it with a fresh/recharged set?
[12:20] <cyphase> matt__, i'm on gnome and i can just double-click the jar
[12:20] <Kittens> it's fully charged
[12:20] <Kittens> I gave up on bluetooth, it's being stupid
[12:20] <TJ-> Kittens: OK, so not that either. You're trying USB now?
[12:20] <crizis> thek, uuhm, it's the button above tab, next to 1 .. tilde key or whatever it is
[12:20] <balajeerc> bekks, I don't have a built in wifi adapter. Also, why would built in adpaters get listed with lsusb?
[12:20] <violetina> hrmm how do you reinstall a pkg ?
[12:21] <zoktar> what are you guys using for phone/desktop uploads? flickr?
[12:21] <thek> hmm.. not 'selection'.. 'section'. What is Alt - 'section'?
[12:21] <Kittens> I'm going back to corded because it worked just fine before, but now it doesn't seem to want to recognise button presses
[12:21] <zoktar> for photos
[12:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> zoktar: imgur
[12:21] <crizis> thek, try button above alt, ½ button :P
[12:21] <Kittens> TJ-: yeah, USB
[12:21] <crizis> thek, ehm, above tab
[12:21] <matt__> WhereIsMySpoon, cyphase thanks for your help
[12:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: np
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> zoktar  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:22] <TJ-> balajeerc: Sometimes USB devices are internal, and connected via a mini-PCI/e slot (which also carries USB port connections to an internal controller)
[12:22] <thek> crizis: aha! works! Thanks!
[12:22] <zoktar> ah yeah sorry , and thanks.
[12:22] <Hatori> violetina use reinstall options
[12:22] <thek> §
[12:22] <matt__> WhereIsMySpoon, got it working so big thanks, sint there an easyier way like gnome with a tick box
[12:22] <bekks> balajeerc: Obviously, you have. And it's a choice of the manufacturer how a device is connected. It's the choice of the manufacturer which bus (usb, pci, spi, whatever) is chosen to connect that device.
[12:22] <TJ-> Kittens: When you plug the device in do you see anything reported in /var/log/kern.log ? If so, pastebin it
[12:22] <crizis> thek, for me, that'll forever be 'console button' as i've born with quake(s) ;)
[12:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: do you still have that terminal window open?
[12:23] <violetina>  apt-get reinstall libav-tools not works
[12:23] <thek> crizis: right :) I agree.
[12:23] <balajeerc> bekks, TJ- Thanks, I didn't know that!
[12:23] <matt__> WhereIsMySpoon, nope but i can get it open
[12:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: open it, navigate to the jar's directory again
[12:23] <matt__> WhereIsMySpoon, done
[12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> matt__: type "ls -l" and give me the outcome
[12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> you can pastebin it if its big or just pm me it if not
[12:24] <Kittens> TJ-: pastebinning last 3 notices starting at involving the controller
[12:24] <Guest99407> hellow !
[12:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> yo
[12:25] <indieross> using qt apps how can i make them use a specific icon theme
[12:25] <indieross> ?
[12:25] <markinoberna> ciao
[12:25] <markinoberna> !list
[12:25] <Guest99407> what this team was doing?
[12:25] <Kittens> TJ-: http://pastie.org/4902196
[12:26] <bazhang> Guest99407, ubuntu support
[12:26] <violetina>  apt-get install --reinstall libav-tools k found that , and what if i want to reinstall all deps aswell?
[12:28] <jrib> violetina: you realize reinstalling packages rarely affects anything?
[12:28] <TJ-> Kittens: that looks perfect to me. The input devices have been created.
[12:28] <Myckel> Hi, I just upgraded Ubuntu to 12.04 LTS, but now I can't start firebird2.5-super any more. Starting fbguard manually works, but the init.d script doesn't. Any guides for me where the problem might be?
[12:28] <violetina> jrib: well this box has funky ram so maybe an update messed up somehow
[12:28] <jrib> violetina: ok
[12:29] <bazhang> Myckel, what is firebird
[12:29] <Myckel> database system
[12:29] <bazhang> Myckel, installed from where
[12:29] <Hatori> firebird was open database from interbase...
[12:29] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Just want to share: http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html
[12:29] <ardchoille> bazhang: I think that's the app that caused mozilla to rename their browser to firefox, they wanted to name it firebird
[12:29] <Myckel> ppa
[12:30] <Hatori> !firebird
[12:30] <bazhang> ardchoille, I dont think so, seems to be related to database
[12:30] <Myckel> eh... no this is in tree now
[12:30] <Hatori> !firebird-server
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> bekks  tnx :)
[12:30] <bazhang> Hatori, /msg ubottu
[12:30] <Myckel> !firebirs2.5-super
[12:31] <TJ-> !firebird2.1-super
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> guys, start with....
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !find firebird
[12:31] <bazhang> Myckel, its a PPA; contact the ppa maintainer
[12:31] <TJ-> firebird2.1-super is in Lucid.
[12:31] <Hatori> if you know interbase database server from borland, firebird was opensource version
[12:31] <violetina> now i think about it it might be an nvidia driver issue aswell or a vdpau issue , like the youtube smurf bug , tho it seems more like a yuv video messup like swapped u and v
[12:32] <TJ-> Actually, firebird2.1-super is in Precise, too.
[12:32] <violetina> tho on xbmc it plays fine , guess that not uses the system libav
[12:32] <Myckel> I have 2.5. From Precise?
[12:32] <Kittens> oh...kay
[12:33] <Kittens> that's really bugging the crap out of me
[12:33] <Kittens> hard reset time
[12:33] <zykotick9> violetina: try changing the VO device in your media player, to something other then XV
[12:33] <Myckel> Precise doesn't seem to be supported in the PPA
[12:34] <TJ-> firebird2.5-super is in "Universe" on Precise/Quantal etc
[12:34] <Myckel> I can start it manually, just not through the init.d script.
[12:34] <Myckel> it is also not giving any feedback.
[12:35] <Myckel> It says it started, but ps -A doesn't show it
[12:35] <violetina> zykotick9: totem not has such option it seems , but let me try that in smplayer
[12:35] <TJ-> Myckel: Is there a 'debug' option to the init script (via /etc/default/firebird2.5 for example?) or else, something in /var/log/syslog?
[12:36] <Myckel> syslog soesn't show anything. Didn't see a debug option.
[12:36] <Myckel> even starting it through start-stop-daemon causes it not to start
[12:37] <TJ-> Myckel: And this is an upgrade? Presumably with pre-existing database configuration?
[12:37] <violetina> zykotick9: with x11 driver it is normal
[12:37] <Myckel> TJ, no database. You can access the user database when starting it manually though.
[12:37] <TJ-> Myckel: I just installed it. It tells me "Use `dpkg-reconfigure firebird2.5-super' to enable" - have you tried that?
[12:37] <Myckel> yep, fails to start it.
[12:38] <violetina> zykotick9: anyway to make gst-crap apps use x11 instead of xv , tho i really would like to keep it on xv and just fix the issue
[12:38] <Myckel> TJ,  * Firebird 2.5 super server not running
[12:38] <Myckel>  * Starting Firebird 2.5 super server...                                                                                                              [ OK ]
[12:38] <Myckel> use gsec -? to get help
[12:38] <Myckel> connection rejected by remote interface
[12:38] <Myckel> unable to open database
[12:38] <FloodBot1> Myckel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <TJ-> Myckel: clues! :)
[12:39] <Myckel> :/
[12:40] <SteveGODSchild> hi
[12:40] <Myckel> TJ, ps -A|grep fbguard returns empty, so the server hasn't been started
[12:40] <Myckel> but I guess that also starts through start-stop-daemon
[12:40] <TJ-> Myckel: Because of that error you just showed us. You need to investigate that... some existing configuration?
[12:41] <Myckel> I'll try to purge it and reinstall it.
[12:41] <TJ-> Myckel: Could it be related to the user account fb{guard,server} run as? and the access rights on the config?
[12:42] <SteveGODSchild> how do I get my dvd burner to work in linux
[12:42] <fidel> SteveGODSchild: usually it should just work out of thebox. whats your current status so far?
[12:42] <fidel> !details | SteveGODSchild
[12:43] <TJ-> Myckel: When you run it directly it'll run as your user, or root. The init script runs it as the user "firebird" - I bet that's the cause of the issue
[12:43] <Myckel> TJ, config should be accessable.
[12:43] <SteveGODSchild> it says to unmount the drive how do I do that
[12:44] <rabbi1> how to play .mod files in movie player on 12.04 ?
[12:44] <ant__> exit
[12:44] <dr_willis> eject the disk. perhaps.
[12:44] <violetina> found it in gstreamer-settings ;)
[12:44] <rabbi1> violetina: refering to me ?
[12:44] <ndawir> help me plese
[12:44] <xvilo> with what?
[12:44] <xvilo> ndawir
[12:45] <ndawir> xvilo
[12:45] <SteveGODSchild> i am running ubuntu and I have a dvd drive
[12:45] <TJ-> Myckel: check the config files in "/etc/firebird/2.5/"  - the paths and other settings may give you a clue
[12:45] <violetina> rabbi1: no i mean issue kind of solved
[12:45] <ndawir> how to install fluxbox
[12:45] <dr_willis> !info fluxbox
[12:45] <cyrex> Hi guys!. I wanted to ask if anybody has had any DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space problems on their hardware in 12.04, 12.10 or even using 12.10 with the 3.6 kernel
[12:45] <fidel> ndawir: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:45] <SteveGODSchild> when I try to use it it says no recordable device
[12:45] <Myckel> TJ, got it working now. purged and cleaned the setup. Reinstalled it.
[12:45] <xvilo> ndawir, go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:45] <rabbi1> violetina: good luck
[12:46] <TJ-> Myckel: Great :)
[12:46] <Myckel> TJ, I guess there was some wrong config that was causing it.
[12:46] <violetina> at least i can watch video again with sane colors ;)
[12:46] <fidel> ndawir: afterwards consider reading a manual/tutorial about apt - as it might help making your life easier on debian-based linux distributions
[12:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> nomnom apt
[12:46] <Myckel> TJ, thank you.
[12:47] <TJ-> Myckel: Possibly, or access to data in /var/lib/firebird2.5/data/ was not available to user firebird
[12:47] <rabbi1> how to play .mod files in movie player on 12.04 ?
[12:47] <xvilo> rabbi1, .mod files aren't andy video files
[12:47] <silverghost> eh
[12:47] <rabbi1> xvilo: andy ?
[12:47] <tax_on> hi guys. i have downloaded phpstorm and its a sh file and i have to start it through the terminal every time. how can i do it easier?
[12:47] <xvilo> any, rabbi1
[12:48] <rabbi1> yeah, so ?
[12:48] <xvilo> so you CAN NOT play them
[12:48] <violetina> rabbi1: guess first configure a softsynth , mplayer shpould be able to play them btw
[12:48] <SteveGODSchild> it says to try to unmount the drive how do I do that
[12:48] <Myckel> TJ, could be. well it works now.
[12:48] <rabbi1> violetina: vlc ?
[12:49] <SteveGODSchild> the program I am useing is xfburn
[12:49] <violetina> rabbi1: use timidity
[12:49] <violetina> rabbi1: mod files are midi files
[12:50] <TJ-> rabbi1: Install something like "timidity" and its suggests "pmidi, fluid-soundfont-gm, fluid-soundfont-gs" - which will provide a software MIDI synthesiser
[12:50] <rabbi1> violetina: not interested to install move than one player for movies :( . one player for all file format would be gem
[12:50] <violetina> rabbi1: midi is not VIDEO
[12:51] <rabbi1> i got timidity++ midi sequencer, will this help ?
[12:51] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:51] <violetina> yes ;)
[12:51] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499: greetings
[12:52] <ShapeShifter499> can I run 32 bit python and its editor IDLE on my 64 bit system?  I need this because of a online class I am taking
[12:52] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: Are you using 12.04 ?
[12:52] <rabbi1> unauthenticated sources, ok or repair ? violetina
[12:52] <aguitel> hwo restore pendrive to defaults settings ?
[12:52] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, yes
[12:53] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: It may be possible via the multi-libs support, but why 32-bit in particular? Does some tool only come in 32-bit ?
[12:53] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, they paste EVERYWHERE to use 32 bit REGARDLESS of your system
[12:53] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[12:53] <fidel> hi - i installed 'freewheeling' on 12.04 via apt/default sources. if i try to start the app from cli i get the following error output: freewheeling: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls-openssl.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. seems like 12.04 has only libgnutls-openssl27. am i right or am i overlooking something?
[12:54] <xvilo> bcodii how are yuo?
[12:54] <bcodii> xvilo: I'm unable to find a response to that.
[12:54] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, oh and that it must be python 2.7
[12:54] <xvilo> bcodii why? i realy like you
[12:54] <bcodii> xvilo: I'm unable to find a response to that.
[12:54] <xvilo> bcodii, can you say anything else?
[12:54] <bcodii> xvilo: I'm unable to find a response to that.
[12:54] <fidel> !ot | xvilo
[12:55] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: Ignore them! There is no reason to do that. The amd64 packaged IDLE won't be any different in terms of handling values. What they may be alluding to is, they're going to expect you to install some custom python libraries that they have only built for 32-bit
[12:55] <xvilo> fidel what's the matter?
[12:55] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, not to sure on the 32 over 64 bit thing, shouldn't commands work the same in 64 or 32 bit python?
[12:55] <ardchoille> it's a bot and it's not supposed to broadcast in channel
[12:55] <xvilo> oowh :D
[12:55] <xvilo> okey
[12:55] <xvilo> i wil stop :D
[12:55] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, ah
[12:55] <xvilo> please let it here! it's learning of what you are saying
[12:55] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: On Precise the "idle" package install "idle-python2.7" anyhow so that looks good
[12:55] <xvilo> but it will not disturb you!
[12:56] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, way ahead of you
[12:56] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: If you really *have* to use 32-bit, I'd suggest creating a 32-bit Precise chroot environment and using that for any really-has-to-be-32-bit work
[12:58] <cyrex> I have problems with "DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space" in 12.04 and 12.10
[12:58] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, well they provided a free copy of "Enthought Python Distribution" a self contained 32/64 bit python
[12:58] <ShapeShifter499> so I'll use that
[12:59] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, But they didn't say you had to use it just that you shouldn't install python 3 and that you NEED 2.7
[12:59] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, I was more wondering why 32 bit not 64 bit
[12:59] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[13:00] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: Strange when Python is freely available why they insist on paying for it :p Still, if you have to use 32-bit, go for a chroot (or a virtual machine)
[13:00] <violetina> a unity question , it seems to using compiz , is there a way to edit the effects and or render settings ?
[13:00] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, if your wondering this is a free intro programming class hosted through www.edx.com
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, oops I mean www.edx.org
[13:01]  * violetina really feels like apt-get install kde-standard :x
[13:02] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: really!? My BF has been looking at those courses! I'll make sure of the requirements
[13:02] <Marzata> how to install Firefox in French in Ubu 12.04?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Marzata: ffox should pick up the french language preference from your system settings...
[13:02] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, started monday and they are still allowing more people in
[13:02] <Marzata> cfhowlett: it did not
[13:03] <Marzata> after the all french install I got FF in Fnglish
[13:05] <killer_> how do i convert  a file to .iso format (gui tool)?
[13:06] <steveGODSchild> hi
[13:06] <TJ-> killer_: ISO is an archive format similar to ZIP or RAR, but designed for CD/DVD/BD devices. You can 'put' files into such a file using tools like Brasero
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Marzata: french ffox version  download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-15.0.1&os=linux&lang=fr
[13:06] <steveGODSchild> I am running ubuntu 12.04
[13:07] <Marzata> cfhowlett: and what about updates?
[13:07] <steveGODSchild> how do I unmount a drive
[13:07] <TJ-> Marzata: You probably need to do "sudo apt-get install firefox-locale-fr"
[13:07] <Pici> Marzata: make sure that you have  firefox-locale-fr installed and that that language is selected within firefox.
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Marzata: check with firefox international version;  I have no idea, but looks like TJ is on top of it.
[13:08] <TJ-> cfhowlett: Doubt it... I just did "apt-cache search ^firefox-locale" :p
[13:08] <ShapeShifter499> TJ-, pretty sweet course so far, they have the first 2 weeks of material up though its only the first week and you have a mid term every month and a half or so. This is for the MIT 6.00x version which ends January 2013 the Harvard one doesn't start till the 15th and is longer ending in April iirc
[13:08] <TJ-> ShapeShifter499: We're a bit off-topic, lets take it private
[13:09] <ShapeShifter499> mmk
[13:09] <ardchoille> TJ-: ISO is a finalized file system, you can't alter it. You can, however, use apps to create a new ISO with the amendments you make.
[13:10] <steveGODSchild> I am trying to get xfburn to work when I use it it says no burner installed but I have a dvde burner it says to try and unmount the drive
[13:11] <steveGODSchild> how do I do that and where do I type the info
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:12] <benregn> hey, I need to install Python packages on several machines. I do not have ssh access to them. Python is installed but I cannot assume that pip is installed. Does anyone know of examples or any starting points to do this?
[13:13] <somit> How to make customizable ubuntu cd?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> somit: remastersys
[13:14] <Marzata> TJ-Pici cfhowlett: thank you!
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Marzata: best of luck
[13:14] <somit> thanks
[13:14] <cfhowlett> somit: best of luck
[13:14] <Marzata> cfhowlett: it works. thanks!
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Marzata: 'tis magic!
[13:17] <steveGODSchild> did I ask the question right
[13:17] <ikonia> steveGODSchild: hi seems a reasonable question
[13:17] <ikonia> steveGODSchild: CD's are auto mounted when you put a cd in the drive
[13:18] <steveGODSchild> I know but it says to unmount the cd when I use xfburn
[13:19] <datruth> Is there a video chat server that I can host on a linux system?
[13:19] <ikonia> steveGODSchild: I suspect that maybe a missleadin error, however you should see the CD in the file manager, if you right click it you can unmount it
[13:20] <steveGODSchild> where is file manager
[13:20] <taz1232>  steveGODSchild:its on the toolbar on the left, clik on the folder
[13:22] <steveGODSchild> do you have to install one or does it come with the program
[13:23] <taz1232> it comes included
[13:23] <wjx_wp> hello,i am a new fish
[13:24] <datruth> openvcs?
[13:25] <notk0> hello, I am using the (latest?) ubuntu, and sound doesn't work, well it didn't work by default and someone told me to mess up with some mixer program, and now it works for flash movies but not with any music/movie player
[13:26] <wjx_wp> i using the ubuntu too
[13:26] <steveGODSchild> I dont see it guess I am to stupid for this
[13:27] <Pradeep> how take the ubuntu image from my laptop
[13:27] <notk0> if I test audio in sound preferences it works
[13:28] <wjx_wp> i am sorry,i  install the ubuntu  just now
[13:28] <bazhang> Pradeep, you mean a clone of your hdd? a disk image?
[13:28] <Pradeep> yes
[13:28] <mk0> hi all. i installed 12.04.1 and found there is no startupmanager. how to change the default system to load now?
[13:30] <Pradeep> bazhang is there any application to take the image
[13:31] <Twinlator> mk0: start>type "startup" then,it will show 'startup application' you can change in it.
[13:31] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19901/how-to-make-a-disk-image-and-restore-from-it-later  <--- Pradeep
[13:31] <eFfeM_work> hi, trying to get meld running on 10.04 but get this:
[13:31] <eFfeM_work> glib.GError: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)
[13:31] <eFfeM_work> anyone an idea what is wrong; things like gnome-terminal run and root can also run meld, but users cannot
[13:33] <Pradeep> Thank you bazhang
[13:33] <if124> hi, every gtk app I used segfaults with errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257965/ . can anyone help?
[13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> eFfeM_work: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/3303/strange-error-message/ this help?
[13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> eFfeM_work: also i assume you've tried restarting etc
[13:35] <wangpeng> who can help me improve my English
[13:35] <cfhowlett> wangpeng: wrong channel.  this is ubuntu computer support not esl.  Sorry;.
[13:35] <ikonia> wangpeng: the guys in ##english can
[13:36] <eFfeM_work> WhereIsMySpoon: yeah will try to reboot again, I do have been playing with tmpfs though
[13:36] <eFfeM_work> biab
[13:36] <wangpeng> thank you
[13:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> eFfeM_work: ok
[13:36] <wangpeng> you are kind person .
[13:36] <wangpeng> :)
[13:38] <Twinlator> wangpeng: answer many question and help more people will improve your English.
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Twinlator: should be "Answering many questions and helping more people will improve your English" :)
[13:39] <wangpeng> i will do it
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> or "answer many questions and help more people, and your english will improve"
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> but anyway, this isnt ##english :p
[13:39] <wangpeng> i will try my best to help more people
[13:39] <Twinlator> WhereIsMySpoon: Thank you!:-))
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Twinlator: :D
[13:40] <GRMrGecko> I have an all-in-one MSI system with ubuntu on it. Randomly, we get a black console like message which says "Checking Battery" and the system reboots.
[13:41] <no_gravity> Hello! Can I connect a printer to an alice wlan modem and access it from the other computers? In other words - do wlan modems work as routers?
[13:42] <ikonia> no_gravity: ##hardware is your friend
[13:42] <no_gravity> ikonia: ok
[13:43] <GRMrGecko> would that be an hardware issue? I would think so as it's using laptop hardware…
[13:43] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: what do the logs tell you in relation to this?
[13:43] <ikonia> GRMrGecko: a modem connecting a printer and sharing it for other machines.....not an ubuntu issue
[13:43] <mk0> Twinlator, thanks!
[13:44] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: I'm looking through them… I don't see anything really
[13:44] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: is this running 64 or 32, desktop or server?
[13:44] <GRMrGecko> 64 bit desktop
[13:45] <GRMrGecko> Ubuntu 11.04
[13:45] <Twinlator> mk0: Using Ubuntu happily. :-)
[13:45] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: is acpi enabled?
[13:45] <GRMrGecko> I wouldn't know
[13:45] <eFfeM_work> WhereIsMySpoon:  rebooting again fixed my problem, must have done something to fix it (or to break it) but anyway I'm good now, thanks alot!
[13:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> eFfeM_work: :) always try a reboot
[13:46] <GRMrGecko> I'll look in dmsg to see
[13:46] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: looks like it
[13:46] <GRMrGecko> ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
[13:46] <eFfeM_work> WhereIsMySpoon: good strategy, only bad thing this corp compu is slow on reboot (raid controller needing init etc)
[13:46] <eFfeM_work> WhereIsMySpoon: makes great coffee breaks though ;-)
[13:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> eFfeM_work: :D
[13:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> "why are you up again?" "oh, rebooting" :p
[13:47] <if124> Hi, every gtk app I used crashes with errors similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257985/ Can anyone help?
[13:47] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: you can press escape when the message pops up before it freezes and gather more output, have you done this?
[13:47] <TarZach> Hello, I am looking for a torrent client that logs transfer speeds of a download in progress, then, name of the file being downloaded, and percentage of downloads completed, any suggestions ? :D
[13:47] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: I have not, from what I hear… The system reboots soon after.
[13:47] <rkhshm> i tried to poweron 12.04 on my t410 today and i get to the login screen.. the moment i enter the password i get to a log screen that gives me a few errors and goes back to log in prompt only
[13:47] <rkhshm> how do i fix this?
[13:48] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: The kernel log shows this "Oct  2 16:57:05 ACSC-CC85 kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped."
[13:48] <GRMrGecko> right before the boot
[13:48] <cfhowlett> TarZach: pretty sure transmission does all of that.
[13:48] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: are the latest updates done therein
[13:48] <rkhshm> any ideas guys?
[13:49] <bazhang> rkhshm, patience
[13:49] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: I have security updates automatically installed, however I have not updated in awhile.
[13:49] <TarZach> cfhowlett: Thank you very much, I'll give it a try, it does has the capability via the cli and the web version, too, right ?
[13:49] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: could you please ensure you have all the main updates and check the behaviour again
[13:49] <GRMrGecko> ok
[13:50] <LorSamPau_w> rkhshm, without any log nobody will help
[13:50] <GRMrGecko> Again, it randomly happens so who knows when it'll happen again.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> TarZach: ah the devil in the details ... transmission is gui driven. Sorry.
[13:50] <rkhshm> LorSamPau_w: how can i collect any log when i'm not even able to log in?
[13:50] <TarZach> cfhowlett: there is a cli version, and a web version, too, according to me.
[13:50] <jaxyeh> What's really new (feature-wise) with Ubuntu 12.10?
[13:50] <bazhang> transmission-cli cfhowlett
[13:51] <cfhowlett> TarZach: then you know more than me.  I've been quite satisfied with the program and recommend it.
[13:51] <bazhang> jaxyeh, #ubuntu+1 for 12.10
[13:51] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: These are the updates that are available and are being installed "app-install-data-partner gnome-user-guide initscripts insserv language-pack-en language-pack-gnome-en libgweather-common libgweather1 libimobiledevice2 mobile-broadband-provider-info python python-launchpadlib python-minimal python-papyon software-center sysv-rc sysvinit-utils tzdata unity unity-common xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[13:51] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: most likely this is not related to actually checking your battery state, but moreover related to your video drivers. I would suggest checking what drivers are in use.
[13:51] <bazhang> TarZach, try rtorrent
[13:51] <LorSamPau_w> rkhshm, "a few errors" ?
[13:51] <rkhshm> sorry no errors
[13:51] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: Which command do I use to figure out video drivers, it's been awhile.
[13:51] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: that last one: xserver-xorg-video-intel will most likely effect the behaviour and possibly resolve.
[13:51] <TarZach> bazhang: ok.
[13:52] <jaxyeh> bazhang: Ofc, but whats really new with it? not really sure if its worth upgrade from 12.04 right now.
[13:52] <GRMrGecko> (I only have ssh access to these machines at the moment.
[13:52] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: lspci | less and do a search for what I can only assume an intel based video card
[13:52] <bazhang> jaxyeh, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for that discussion
[13:52] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: onboard.
[13:52] <GRMrGecko> ok
[13:53] <rkhshm> LorSamPau_w: ok here is the problem... i'm able to login as guest and when i checked the /home is "full" .. but since i'm logged in as guest now. I cannot do anything..
[13:53] <jaxyeh> bazhang: got it, thx
[13:54] <dr_willis> rkhshm:  the /home/ partition is full or is /home/ not on its own partition?
[13:54] <rkhshm> dr_willis: /home is full
[13:55] <dr_willis> there is a 5% reserved you can reduce for a little extra space ;) but sounds like its time to clean out stuff
[13:56] <rkhshm> dr_willis: yeah.. i should but from where can i remove stuff if i'm logged in as guest
[13:56] <dr_willis> rkhshm:  ive never seen one not able to login with home full. you can try logging in at the console
[13:57] <rkhshm> dr_willis: i tried .. it just reverts back to the login prompt only
[13:57] <dr_willis> makes me wonder if theres not a deeper issue.
[13:58] <rkhshm> ctrl+alt+f1 did the trick
[13:58] <dr_willis> could always reboot into the recovery/rescue mode i guess and look around
[13:58] <dr_willis> console worked.. thats a good sign ;)
[13:58] <dr_willis> check df -h       to see what is 'full' and how big things are. :)
[13:59] <rkhshm> dr_willis: yeah doing that..
[13:59] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:59] <rkhshm> df  -h says /home -> 0% free
[13:59] <dr_willis> how big is the home partition?
[14:00] <rkhshm> 140G <-- /home
[14:00] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: very good, make a note of that. finish your updates, monitor the behavior; if it does re occur then remember escape when it occurs and gather the output; thereafter you should be able to have enough to dig in further.
[14:00] <dr_willis> so by default about 5% or 5gb  is reserved ;) you can use the tune2fs command to reduce that %
[14:01] <dr_willis> or just clean out stuff
[14:01] <GRMrGecko> tyler_d: Thanks
[14:01] <rkhshm> dr_willis: ok
[14:01] <tyler_d> GRMrGecko: your welcome. Good Luck
[14:01] <rkhshm> but for now i am deleting some data i dont need
[14:01] <rkhshm> lets see if it works
[14:01] <dr_willis> check the cache and tmp dirs ;)
[14:01] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:02] <dr_willis> i forget how to show/short dirs by size used.
[14:02] <brightsparks> I'm trying to use chromium browser but am having difficulty getting it to use flash . Is there any correct way of getting flash plug in to work in chromium. It works perfectly in Opera and firefox. I often manually install the flash for the latter but not sure what will work for chromium browser
[14:03] <Twinlator> brightsparks: the chrome doesn't need any flash plug, it has included.
[14:04] <brightsparks> Twinlator: are you referring to google chromium or to the linux chromium?
[14:05] <brightsparks> Twinlator: because there are 2 versions right?
[14:05] <lil_Worker> hi there
[14:05] <Twinlator> brightsparks: does it have something different? may be you can install google chrome.
[14:06] <lil_Worker> im launching a process in the background "./blah &" and it's status changes to Stopped
[14:06] <lil_Worker> how could i prevent this?
[14:07] <brightsparks> Twinlator: I'm trying NOT to install google chromium. I'd prefer the linux non-google one.
[14:07] <rkhshm> dr_willis: ok deleting a 21G vm disk did the fix ;-)
[14:07] <OerHeks> chromium = open source, chrome = closed
[14:07] <brightsparks> Twinlator: but if it won't work I'll just dump chromium and continue using opera and firefox
[14:08] <brightsparks> rkshm: yep
[14:08] <lil_Worker> anyone?
[14:08] <brightsparks> rkhshm: yep
[14:09] <hypershock> I seem to remember that prior to this unity stuff it was easy to add yourself to a group. is there a graphic utility that can be used for group management?
[14:09] <Twinlator> brightsparks: i can install the plug in the ubuntu software center, you can try it.
[14:09] <brightsparks> OerHeks: yep open source v closed yep
[14:09] <bsdhax0r> :-(
[14:09] <crazydip> where is the title of a package (the bolded name) in ubuntu software center located? it's not in the control file
[14:10] <sabari_> Hi. I have asus laptop and have installed 12.04
[14:10] <Benkinooby> !ubuntu 12.04
[14:10] <Benkinooby> !ubuntu
[14:10] <brightsparks> Twinlator: can you give me some more information about that please?
[14:10] <sabari_> The keyboard is not working properly after connecting my laptop to usb keyboard
[14:10] <sabari_> the fn key seems to be always pressed
[14:11] <OerHeks> hypershock, users & groups menu is not installed by default, iapt-get install gnome-system-tools
[14:11] <sabari_> i did dpkg-reconfigure keyboard and selected asus laptop
[14:11] <sabari_> but still no luck
[14:11] <sabari_> any idea what went wrong
[14:11] <crazydip> against what do i file a bug report re: a bad name/title in software center? it's okay in apt-get and synaptic
[14:12] <hypershock> OerHeks: thank you. I wonder why they're not installed by default.
[14:12] <Twinlator> brightsparks: there is no more info. my ubuntu has installed flash plug just in the ubuntu software center, just click install, and anything is OK.
[14:12] <OerHeks> hypershock, me too, but it is solvable.
[14:13] <hypershock> twinlator use google-chrome it has flash built in
[14:14] <Twinlator> hypershock: No! i installed chrome in the software center.
[14:15] <Twinlator> fully open-source.
[14:15] <oquidave> hello
[14:15] <brightsparks> Twinlator: I'm afraid I can't see anything in the synoptic package manage that refers to specifically a chromium flash plug-in. I do have flash installed already already that works fine in Opera and Firefox. I tried reinstalling flash yesterday from the package manager and it installed I think a newer version of flash but Firefox and Opera won't work on that-chromium might???
[14:16] <oquidave> can anybody help me set Voice setting to 0x0060 - see 'man hciconfig' for details.
[14:16] <datruth> so can anyone help me with a video conference server solution?
[14:16] <brightsparks> Twinlator: I think it's the dustbin for chromium lol. maybe it works on a newer mobo mine isn't all that new
[14:17] <hypershock> you can get it from chrome.google.com
[14:17] <oquidave> am asterisk voip server and am peering it via bluetooth usb adapter to a phone...but asterisk complains that i shoudl set the voice setting to  0x0060 using hciconfig tool...can anybody help me with that. thanks
[14:17] <Twinlator> brightsparks: check the updates please. try it!
[14:18] <brightsparks> Twinlator: try what chromium or reinstalling flash??
[14:20] <BluesKaj> brightsparks, I'm pretty sure chromium looks in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins for the libflashplayer.so file , if you copy it there , chromium should work with flash
[14:20] <Twinlator> brightsparks: i mean that you can update your system first.
[14:20] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: thanks-that might be useful
[14:21] <brightsparks> Twinlator: ok thanks
[14:21] <caycep> Hi,
[14:21] <BluesKaj> brightsparks, I haen't used chromium in a few months ...let me check
[14:21] <Twinlator> brightsparks: you're welcome. ;-)
[14:21] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: ok
[14:22] <tryy3> hmm... is there a command in terminal to make ubuntu go "faster" like turn off unessessary tasks or similiar?
[14:22] <caycep> does anyone else have trouble getting standard gnome3 graphics instead of fallback graphics on one of the new ivy bridge xeons?  I can't get it off fallback on a Xeon E2-1245 v2 (HD 4000 integrated graphics), on an Asrock H77
[14:24] <violetina> is 12.047 still the latest lts release? is it possible to update nvidia drivers and xorg , xbmc is horrible on this ubuntu box :s
[14:24] <violetina> -7*
[14:24] <cfhowlett> violetina: 12.4.1 is current
[14:25] <wN> violetina: xbmc runs fine on my ubuntu box
[14:25] <wN> has nvidia card, but its an older card
[14:25] <theadmin> violetina: Yes, 12.04 is the latest. But no, you can't really upgrade to beyond what's in the repos (maybe with a few PPAs, but nobody's responsible if those end up breaking your setup)
[14:25] <wN> also, i may have used the 3rd party drivers
[14:25] <wN> violetina: ^
[14:26] <violetina> maybe i should try to build it from source :x
[14:26] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: if chromium does use the mozilla flash plug in area will I have to make a link to it for chromium or something - I mean I have previously shifted the flash plug in around manually for opera and firefox and it usually works. Can't recall if I had to make a link though or maybe that was for something else??
[14:27] <violetina> wN: here the gui menus lag , video pkayback has lot of drops , tried messing with the settings but no luck
[14:27] <violetina> playback*
[14:27] <unname> someone have idea where is located usb_input.h ?
[14:27] <wN> violetina: how bad is the lag? was this working better in a previous version?
[14:27] <tryy3> hmm... is there a command in terminal to make ubuntu go "faster" like turn off unessessary tasks or similiar?
[14:27] <violetina> wN: i never used ubuntu before just setted this up on parents pc
[14:28] <violetina> wN: i'm a gentoo user myself and ubuntu is new for me :x
[14:28] <Twinlator> tryy3: you can kill tasks in the system monitor.
[14:28] <wN> violetina: you might want to try xbmcuntu instead of 12.04 with xbmc
[14:28] <tryy3> Twinlator i dont know whats important and not :S
[14:29] <theadmin> violetina: Well, you won't find ACCEPT_KEYWORDS here sadly :(
[14:29] <violetina> ;)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> brightsparks, in a word , no ..chromium looks for libflashplayer in mozilla plugins as I mentioned ...btw just reinstalled chromium and flash works fine on youtube
[14:29] <violetina> how is kde on ubuntu?
[14:29] <tsimpson> unname: search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:29] <theadmin> violetina: Pretty neat, I'm using it at the moment, the default setup is a little clumsy but nothing you can't change in a few clicks
[14:29] <dr_willis> violetina:  if looking for a multimedia focused distro theres openelec and geexbox now also.
[14:30] <violetina> dad really not gets used to this unity interface , i 'm starting to like it to some extent tho
[14:30] <dr_willis> 12.10 improves a lot of things in unity also
[14:31] <Twinlator> tryy3: i'm sorry that i don't know too, but i always kill the tasks which have an icon.
[14:31] <Twinlator> :-D
[14:31] <Benkinooby> how can i find hout what wireless cards are supported by the minimal install cd?
[14:31] <Benkinooby> hout->out
[14:32] <hypershock> what do i need to do to be able to delete items from a removeable media such as an SD card?
[14:32] <caycep> hoping 12.10 will fix gnome-shell standard graphics for me :/
[14:32] <violetina> dr_willis: found a fix for the video color mess up , a nasty ione tho , set gstreamer not to use xv fixes it , tho that is at cost of higher load
[14:32] <chris92> Benkinooby: normally you should try to have a wired connection during the minimal install
[14:32] <violetina> dr_willis: or wasnt you who i talked to yesterday ? ;)
[14:32] <chris92> Benkinooby: not sure if wireless works
[14:32] <xsl> Hello all, server related questions and LXC can be asked in this channel?
[14:33] <dr_willis> hypershock:  normally they get mounted where users have full access. perhaps run that 'ntfs-config' tool and check the settings
[14:33] <tryy3> Twinlator okej
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> xsl  there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:33] <chris92> hypershock: try Shift+Del on the icons
[14:33] <violetina> that is why i wondered if i can upgrade X and drivers , but sadly that is a no :x
[14:33] <xsl> MonkeyDust, tyvm
[14:33] <chris92> *items
[14:33] <hypershock> dr_willis: it is formatted as sd-fat32. chris92: move to trash and delete are grayed out.
[14:34] <dr_willis> hypershock:  depending on how its mounted, users may not have full access. root still should
[14:34] <hypershock> chris92: your suggestion doesn't work
[14:34] <chris92> hypershock: hmm thats strange
[14:34] <dr_willis> hypershock:  the ntfs-config tool lets  you tweak the settings. (when the tool works)
[14:35] <hypershock> dr_willis: i want to fix it so i as the user can do it and not have to sudo to achieve it.
[14:35] <caycep> oops, I tried 'gnome-shell —replace' and it froze lol
[14:35] <hypershock> dr_willis: i'll try it
[14:35] <chris92> is there a .trash-1000 folder on your flash drive?
[14:35] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: right-t-oh. Thanks. Useful to that may try a fresh reinstall of chromium then. Cheers.
[14:36] <hypershock> chris92: no
[14:36] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: useful to know that I mean. Thanks.
[14:36] <Twinlator> chris92: it appears in the widows system.
[14:36] <violetina> hrmm no systray in unity? i closed rhythmbox window now i cant openit again , guess i can with termibnal , but this seems a bit stupid :|
[14:37] <chris92> Twinlator: it should appear as well if you press Ctrl+H to display hidden files
[14:37] <dr_willis> violetina:  the volume applet has controls for many media players
[14:37] <violetina> ah right missed that ;)
[14:37] <Twinlator> because it start in '.',  it was an hidden folder.
[14:39] <hypershock> dr_willis: that didn't help at all. that tool doesn't see the card.
[14:39] <violetina> dr_willis: but no way to add a systray? like i miss it for quassel , dont want dialogue windows on highlights :x
[14:39] <ecco_> Hey guys... is there a file where the "added" printers are stored?  After rebooting, my printer disappeared and I'm unable to add it again... it just says "Failed to add printer"
[14:39] <ecco_> I figured if such file exists, its just a matter of erasing it.
[14:39] <Twinlator> chris92: you can rename a file that start in '.', and it will disappear. it's funny, and make me confused for a long time.;-)
[14:40] <oquidave> hello....which file do i specify the pin code for bluetooth pairing? thanks
[14:40] <chris92> Twinlator: I know
[14:41] <violetina> nevermind lets try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html ;)
[14:41] <Twinlator> chris92: that's all right.
[14:42] <erik__> is there a way to check the average/max memory usage of a command? similar to the the "time" tool
[14:42] <bekks> free -m before and after starting it.
[14:43] <jrib> erik__: have you checked time's man page?
[14:45] <Nach0z> erik__: might check top, or even valgrind
[14:47] <Nach0z> erik__: also check the 4th answer on this page: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/563168/monitor-a-programs-memory-usage-in-linux
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> erik__  or htop
[14:49] <confusedTom> I uninstalled mediatomb, but during boot mediatomb messages ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258105/ ) still appear. why is that?
[14:49] <jrib> confusedTom: are you sure it uninstalled?
[14:49] <erik__> MonkeyDust, i need the data for a single process
[14:49] <erik__> like time works
[14:49] <jrib> erik__: time does what you want
[14:49] <erik__> i can't poll top
[14:49] <erik__> jrib, it doesnt seem to work though
[14:49] <erik__> keeps giving me 0
[14:49] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, ubuntu 12.04 lts here, i CANNOT remember how i have installed my flash player since i had a few problems and i got advice here, now it seems to be acting up
[14:50] <erik__> for mem usage
[14:50] <jrib> erik__: well that I can't comment on :
[14:50] <confusedTom> jrib: Package mediatomb is not installed, so not removed
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone help me update it?
[14:50] <jrib> erik__: maybe try /usr/bin/time since time is often a shell built-in
[14:50] <karthick87> How to identify faulty NIC card  in ubuntu??
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> !flash > Wiz_KeeD
[14:51] <erik__> jrib, doing that
[14:51] <erik__> :D
[14:51] <Borromin1> hello
[14:51] <erik__> still returns 0
[14:51] <jrib> confusedTom: find /etc/init /etc/init.d -iname '*mediatomb*'
[14:51] <erik__> im using it to measure jobs i submit on a cluster
[14:51] <jrib> erik__: what are you typing exactly?
[14:51] <erik__> /usr/bin/time -o /nas/erik/cosmos_output/GPP_48Exomes_GATK/BWA_Sampe/1216301779A_001_001/drmaa_out/985.time -f "D:%D F:%F I:%I K:%K M:%M O:%O P:%P R:%R S:%S U:%U W:%W X:%X Z:%Z c:%c e:%e k:%k p:%p r:%r s:%s t:%t w:%w x:%x"
[14:51] <Borromin1> wondering if anyone knew how, when you log in to unity, the ssh/gpg keys get unlocked?
[14:51] <Borromin1> i am replacing unity with openbox and would like to replicate that behaviour
[14:52] <erik__> (plus the command at the end)
[14:52] <dr_willis> Borromin1:  the gnome-keyring does it i imagine
[14:52] <jiffe98> is the installation dvd updated with new kernel versions over time or does it remain the same?
[14:52] <confusedTom> jrib: /etc/init/mediatomb.conf   should I delete that file?
[14:52] <jiffe98> for the same version of ubuntu taht is
[14:52] <jrib> confusedTom: dpkg -S /etc/init/mediatomb.conf
[14:53] <Borromin1> dr_willis: i have the gnome-keyring daemon running when i log in to openbox, but keys are not unlocked
[14:53] <erik__> jrib,  i screwed up my parsing, sorry to waste your time ;(
[14:53] <dr_willis> jiffe98:  they update it when they  do the minor version updates like to 12.04.1
[14:53] <confusedTom> jrib: "mediatomb-daemon: /etc/init/mediatomb.conf", but "Package mediatomb-daemon is not installed, so not removed"
[14:53] <jrib> erik__: no problem, I learned that time could do all this cool stuff now :)
[14:53] <jrib> confusedTom: what did you run to get that?
[14:53] <VonWhistler> how come when I type "sudo -s" it tries to resolve my hostname, stalls, and spits out "unable to resolve blabla" then allows me to elevate priv
[14:54] <jrib> VonWhistler: what ubuntu version?
[14:54] <confusedTom> jrib: "dpkg -S /etc/init/mediatomb.conf" and "sudo apt-get autoremove mediatomb-daemon"
[14:54] <VonWhistler> 12.04 server
[14:55] <jrib> confusedTom: and "apt-cache policy mediatomb-daemon" says it's not installed?
[14:55] <jiffe98> dr_willis: gotcha
[14:55] <confusedTom> jrib: "apt-cache policy mediatomb-daemon" says "mediatomb-daemon:  Installed: (none)"
[14:56] <jrib> confusedTom: Check if anything else is still installed from the package.  Maybe the package considers that a configuration file, but I don't think that's normal.  Try purging the package
[14:57] <jrib> VonWhistler: well you can look at "man sudoers" and the "fqdn" option I think.  At some point I think !fqdn was an option in ubuntu's default /etc/sudoers, but it's not there now.  Pretty sure that's the option you want to look into though
[14:58] <confusedTom> jrib: purging removed that file. thanks.
[14:58] <jrib> confusedTom: I think that's a bug.  See if that happens with other, more common, packages.  And if not, file a bug :)
[14:58] <VonWhistler> jrib: okay, just seems irrelevant to getting sudo whether its own hostname can be resolved, but perhaps I'm overlooking something
[14:59] <confusedTom> jrib: k, will do.
[15:00] <jrib> VonWhistler: do you have /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts in agreement?
[15:00] <Miguel_> hello, i am a user from windows and i want to start using ubunto usually, but i am new and i needed some help, i wanted to make a pen drive install, and i wanted to know if i install it in the usb its the samme thing of a normal instal, i remember when i tried to install on a pen drive before, i used file persistence but i couldn't create\manage my user account, and i had problems with that ..
[15:01] <VonWhistler> jrib: no!
[15:01] <VonWhistler> jrib: will see if that helps
[15:01] <vmassuchetto> I need some help to solve a dependency in the 'apache2' package. I've tried aptitude, apt-get -f install and tasksel. None of them can install apache2 back. =/
[15:01] <dr_willis> Miguel_:  you can do a live/persistant install or a normal full install.
[15:02] <dr_willis> Miguel_:  i use full installs on larger flash drives  all the time
[15:02] <Miguel_> dr_willis: can i do a normal install in the pen?
[15:02] <jrib> vmassuchetto: pastebin your command and full output
[15:02] <dr_willis> Miguel_:   full installs =normal install = yes...
[15:02] <Twinlator> Miguel_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[15:03] <Miguel_> twinlator: i used that before and i had problems with the user account
[15:03] <dr_willis> Miguel_:  but i boot A live pendrive install to then install normally to a 2nd pendrive
[15:03] <Miguel_> dr_willis: hoo, thanks dr willis
[15:03] <dr_willis> most guides are on making 'live' installs
[15:04] <Miguel_> dr_willis: yep.. i didn't wanted a live install
[15:04] <truexfan81>  anyone know how to auto add aps to the openbox menu in 12.04? the stuff i see from google searches is not working
[15:04] <dr_willis> since you just  install normally to the pendeive same as you would a real hd...
[15:04] <Miguel_> dr_willis: can i boot the cd on windows and install directly on the pen?
[15:05] <jrib> truexfan81: try #openbox
[15:05] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/YUcwZD0X
[15:05] <dr_willis> boot the cd on windows? you boot the cd.. same as you would to do a normal install
[15:05] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Separated the commands with "-----"
[15:05] <dr_willis> not sure how 'on windows' figures into it
[15:05] <jrib> truexfan81: uh, one sec... not sure that's a channel
[15:06] <Miguel_> dr_willis: hoo, i think i tryed to install one time on windows but he didn't wanted to install it on the pen...
[15:06] <truexfan81> jrib: it is, but its invite only
[15:06] <dr_willis> Miguel_:  if you mean INSIDE windows.. thats a wubi install.. a totally different beast
[15:06] <jrib> truexfan81: weird
[15:06] <truexfan81> * Cannot join #openbox (Channel is invite only).
[15:06] <Miguel_> dr_willis: hoo, i dind't knew...
[15:07] <jrib> truexfan81: anyway, have you looked at the official docs for openbox?
[15:07] <Tinybird> Hi all
[15:07] <Miguel_> dr_willis: how its the best way of do it? since i don't have a second pen drive\cd, it's better i use a virtual machine to boot the live cd and then install on the pen?
[15:07] <dr_willis> boot the cd.  partition the hd.. install to the usb.  be sure grub goes on the usb also
[15:07] <jrib> truexfan81: they have #openbox on the oftc network apparently
[15:08] <BenHur> hi, i have a 3-way instal. 1 windows xp adn 2 ubuntu 10.04. now i am going to delete one ubuntu 10.04 and install a 12.04 for it. my problem is, that i don't know how to go on with grub. this is my current partition laybout http://imagebin.org/230761 my other (main) ubuntu install takes sda2 for /boot, sda5 for / and sda for /home where should i place the grub of the 12.04 install that will replace the ubuntu on sad7 and sda8?
[15:08] <jrib> truexfan81: see also http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Configuration#Menu
[15:08] <aristidesfl> hi
[15:08] <aristidesfl> I've got a partition full of data
[15:08] <bazhang> BenHur, why delete? just one step upgrade 10.04 to 12.04
[15:09] <Tinybird> bazhang: cannot agree more
[15:09] <jrib> vmassuchetto: don't use aptitude with multi-arch, it's broken
[15:09] <rp2> don't delete the old one before you have the new one running
[15:09] <aristidesfl> I've got a partition full of data and would like to extend that partition using another empty disk. how can it be done?
[15:09] <BenHur> bazhang, the install thats going to be replaced is seldomly used and is quite messed up configuration wies - it was my experimental install
[15:10] <Miguel_> dr_willis: thanks for your help i gonna try and if i can't do it i come back later
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> aristidesfl  backup d
[15:10] <jrib> vmassuchetto: do you have, or have you ever had, any unofficial repositories enabled?  What ubuntu version is this?  Pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy apache2 apache2-mpm-worker"
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> aristidesfl  backup data, delete partitins yopu want to merge
[15:10] <jrib> vmassuchetto: throw in "apt-cache policy apache2.2-common" too
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> aristidesfl  merge partitions, put data back
[15:11] <BenHur> bazhang, so i thought a nice clean 12.04 install would be nice - apart from puzlying around with grub - not shure where to put it
[15:11] <aristidesfl> MonkeyDust can you merge partitions from different disks without raid?
[15:11] <neostream> http://redd.it/10vm04
[15:11] <bekks> aristidesfl: No.
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> aristidesfl  i was just going to suggest raid :)
[15:12] <bekks> aristidesfl: All you could do is to setup LVM.
[15:12] <aristidesfl> MonkeyDust they are both about 320gb
[15:13] <aristidesfl> but one of them has my os
[15:13] <aristidesfl> and I don't want to setup everything again
[15:13] <efes> Hello :) I need a url to manual about reconfiguring grub to run Windows as default. Manual editing menu.lst does not affect boot process :/
[15:13] <cfhowlett> efes: menu.lst went away as of grub 2.0 ...
[15:14] <BenHur> bazhang, if i place the grub of 12.04 in a pratition within the extended partition - will it be recognized by the currently installed grub from ubuntu 10.04?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> aristidesfl  i once merged two partitions without dataloss, using gparted.... technically it was possible, but it took a loooong time
[15:14] <aristidesfl> bekks it seem what I need is LVM
[15:15] <milosnik_dzyndze> bli ble bla
[15:15] <vmassuchetto> jrib, No unoficial repositories enabled.
[15:15] <vmassuchetto> jrib, apt-cache policy apache2.2-common: Installes: (none), Candidate: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1
[15:16] <jrib> vmassuchetto: I need you to pastebin everything I asked
[15:16] <vmassuchetto> jrib, ok.
[15:16] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Removing aptitude BTW...
[15:16] <jrib> vmassuchetto: it's ok to leave it in case you like its search for example, but don't use it to install things on 12.04 with multi-arch enabled
[15:17] <black_13> how do i turn off the xorg screen saver? it seems that disable the kde screen saver an xorg are not the same
[15:17] <neostream> http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/10/how-to-install-and-configure-swat-samba-web-administration-tool-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html
[15:17] <xsl> guys, quick tip plz. i want to have 3 LXC containers lxc.mysql(mysql-server) lxc.php(php-fpm phpmyadmin) lxc.www (nginx) but i dont want for instance to install mysql-server on lxc.php wen i do apt-get install phpmyadmin ... any tips ?
[15:18] <jrib> black_13: try #kubuntu to see if they know the "right" way.  But if you just want it off and don't care how, use xset
[15:18] <efes> cfhowlett: Yeap :) And I'd like to know how make Windows to be boot as by default :)
[15:18] <cfhowlett> efes: doable.  but you have to use the grub 2.0 documentation
[15:18] <black_13> jrib: would it be "xset s off"
[15:19] <jrib> black_13: maybe.  It may also be dpms settings
[15:19] <xsl> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
[15:19] <xsl> APT::Install-Suggests "0";
[15:19] <xsl> found it
[15:20] <black_13> jrib: here is what i found http://www.shellperson.net/prevent-screen-blanking/
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> xsl  glad I could help ;-)
[15:20] <neostream> thanks black_13
[15:20] <jrib> black_13: yes, that's good information
[15:20] <cfhowlett> efes: see this   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup
[15:20] <black_13> jrib: thanks i will let you know if it worked
[15:22] <vmassuchetto>  jrib: apt-cache policy: http://pastebin.com/ENyybtgA
[15:22] <jrib> vmassuchetto: before doing anything else, do "sudo apt-get update"
[15:22] <vmassuchetto> jrib, I did it before.
[15:23] <jrib> vmassuchetto: "sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common", then pastebin output (we will have to do this a few times)
[15:24] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/KSzbVRLx
[15:24] <jrib> vmassuchetto: sudo apt-get install apache2.2-bin    pastebin
[15:25] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/eEFCSDXh
[15:26] <jrib> vmassuchetto: wrong paste?
[15:26] <vmassuchetto> jrib, oops
[15:26] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/ew603sZ3
[15:26] <vmassuchetto> jrib, sorry
[15:27] <jrib> vmassuchetto: apt-cache policy (then put all those packages it lists here)
[15:28] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Oh... actually there was an unoficial package here before
[15:28] <vmassuchetto> jrib, I removed it and so...
[15:28] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Just saw the apt-cache policy output...
[15:29] <jrib> vmassuchetto: ok, so you know what to do now?
[15:29] <wOlfLisK> I can't seem to log into Ubuntu anymore. I enter my password and it goes to a black screen before making the bongo sound and returning to the login screen. I can use the guest account fine however. I have reset my password multiple times using this method: http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/recover-login-password-of-ubuntu-1204.html
[15:29] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Well. they're not in the sources.list, the system holds their reference somehow...
[15:30] <jrib> vmassuchetto: can you pastebin the apt-cache policy?
[15:30] <vmassuchetto> jrib, ok.
[15:31] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/bc0UU3EL
[15:31] <LOMRunner> Hello. Grub loader installed to USB instead of hard drive.
[15:32] <jrib> vmassuchetto: I meant with the packages
[15:33] <vmassuchetto> jrib, ok
[15:33] <jrib> vmassuchetto: sorry for being vague, that's my fault
[15:33] <LOMRunner> cannot boot with USB stick.  Recently got 12.04CD from Ohio Linux Fest.
[15:33] <wOlfLisK> Nobody able to help with my login problem?
[15:33] <jrib> !helpme | wOlfLisK
[15:33] <yayat> hay
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > wOlfLisK
[15:34] <Ironlenny> I'm trying to setup phpbb3. I know it should be asking me for the mysql root password, but it doesn't. Nor does it ask to setup a phpbb3 user and database.
[15:35] <yayat> selamat malam linux indonesia
[15:35] <dav-> hi - I'm trying to work out of a usb stick with a casper-rw partition (xubuntu 12.04 32). I'm adding a user with an ecrypted home and it cannot login: Mount of device (uid: 0) not owned by requested user (uid: 1000) [I googled for this and the permissions in the ecrypt folder are correct so it's not the same problem others had with this error message]. Any thoughts?
[15:36] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Isn't it what I pasted before? http://pastebin.com/ENyybtgA
[15:37] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Didn't quite understand the "(then put all those packages it lists here)" instruction. =/
[15:37] <Ironlenny> !repeat
[15:38] <yayat> please join http://yayatdp.blogspot.com/
[15:38] <tsimpson> yayat: please do not spam here
[15:38] <AeonF> any ubuntu guru's know how to solve this during apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> AeonF  ppa... natty    :(
[15:39] <jrib> vmassuchetto: yes, but for the packages after that.  The ones you said you saw unofficial versions for
[15:39] <vmassuchetto> jrib, ok
[15:40] <AeonF> MonkeyDust, any simple solutions?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> AeonF  don't use natty, don't use ppas
[15:40] <Erik___> can anyone help me with my wireless driver?
[15:41] <vmassuchetto> It's only this one: http://pastebin.com/nMxNQLFS
[15:41] <vmassuchetto> jrib, It's not installed anymore nor the repository is added.
[15:41] <AeonF> MonkeyDust, is it possible to fix as it is?
[15:41] <m_> hello
[15:42] <vmassuchetto> jrib, And it's not a package related to apache2... apparently: http://pastebin.com/nMxNQLFS
[15:42] <jrib> vmassuchetto: apt-cache policy libaprutil1-ldap  libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
[15:42] <m_> I'm a new Linux user, tried many disto's but wondered firefox only appears on some
[15:43] <mschr> hello chaps. im having a broken package which i removed manually from /opt - didnt realize it was installed via a .deb file
[15:43] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/hwuNMW65
[15:43] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Never pasted-bin so many things before... =p
[15:43] <jrib> vmassuchetto: eventually you will get to the package causing an issue...
[15:43] <AeonF> well lot of good help here.. simple solution: dont use this or that, and no knowledge of a real solution. thanks
[15:44] <vmassuchetto> jrib, I'm fine... =D
[15:44] <jrib> vmassuchetto: sudo apt-get install libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Aelingil  ppas are not supported and i guess natty is eol
[15:44] <Erik___> can anyone help me with the broadcom STA driver?
[15:44] <mschr> anyone who knows how to fix dpkg cache? http://pastebin.com/87ycWyqC i cannot purge google-desktop-linux
[15:44] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/snTthafH
[15:45] <jrib> vmassuchetto: excellent!  now do an apt-cache policy  libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
[15:46] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/pzXd2NMT
[15:46] <jrib> vmassuchetto: oops, I gave you the wrong command.  Do: apt-cache policy libaprutil1
[15:47] <vmassuchetto> jrib, ok
[15:47] <jrib> vmassuchetto: this should be the last one :)
[15:47] <rico_> Hello, I downloaded and installed transmission, can someone suggest how to log torrent file names and download speeds to a particular file ? I fail to find that option.
[15:47] <vmassuchetto> jrib, http://pastebin.com/fab10JKy
[15:47] <marcus> Anyone know how to automatically select a network (network manager started in rc.local) ?ppp mobile broadband
[15:48] <jrib> vmassuchetto: so you see, this package is not from the official repositories
[15:49] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Just installed apache2 back
[15:49] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Thanks!
[15:49] <vmassuchetto> jrib, So, how's the tip to find things like that?
[15:49] <vmassuchetto> jrib, I was being interrupted all the time here, sorry, did all the commands almost automatically... =P
[15:50] <Vooloo> how do I open up ssh to my box from the local network? I allowed it in iptables but I still get connection refused
[15:50] <jrib> vmassuchetto: that's the only way I know.  Keep installing the things that fail until it gets to a package that says "need X" but "going to install Y".  Aptitude used to have some sort of "why" command but I gave up on aptitude because of the multi-arch issue
[15:50] <rico_> Vooloo: did you restart the daemon ?
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> mschr desktop are usually a full of dependencies that method would not work on any, and that desktop is not supported here.  Get a full list of the packages installed and remove all of them or just use another de
[15:51] <marcus> Anyone know how to automatically select a network (network manager started in rc.local) ?ppp mobile broadband
[15:51] <Curious_Cube> Hey !
[15:51] <wilee-nilee> mschr, ^^^^
[15:51] <mknarr_> Vooloo, also make sure you dont have your firewall enabled
[15:51] <Vooloo> rico_: which one?
[15:51] <Ironlenny> I'm trying to setup phpbb3. I know it should be asking me for the mysql root password, but it doesn't. Nor does it ask to setup a phpbb3 user and database.
[15:51] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Awesome. Hope (or not) to solve one by myself soon.
[15:51] <jrib> vmassuchetto: heh
[15:51] <vmassuchetto> jrib, Thanks again for your time.
[15:51] <rico_> Vooloo: STFW.
[15:51] <Vooloo> mknarr_: of course it is, but I opened the ports + source
[15:51] <jrib> vmassuchetto: no problem
[15:51] <Vooloo> rico_: never heard
[15:52] <TarZach> Vooloo: Search the fine Web !
[15:52] <marcus> Anyone know how to automatically select a network (network manager started in rc.local) ?ppp mobile broadband
[15:53] <drsa2> microphone is not working with skype?
[15:53] <elementz_temp> just a quick question. i would like to run syndaemon after logging into a fluxbox session. what would be the correct way to launch the program. i would like to also pass the program a few parameters. should i use bashrc? upstart? .fluxbox/startup? where's the correct to initiate launch of such a program?
[15:53] <Curious_Cube> Just enable mobile broadband.
[15:53] <OerHeks> drsa2, mic works perfect with skype.
[15:53] <WeThePeople> hi
[15:54] <jrib> elementz_temp: how do you start fluxbox?
[15:54] <drsa2> no its not working , even voice recorder is not working
[15:54] <Vooloo> TarZach: still unclear
[15:54] <drsa2> tried googling  no result
[15:54] <TarZach> Vooloo: did you restart the daemon ?
[15:54] <Curious_Cube> Hi @ welcome !
[15:54] <Vooloo> TarZach: what daemon? be specific
[15:54] <Curious_Cube> Welcome !
[15:55] <elementz_temp>  
[15:55] <elementz_temp> jrib: via gdm
[15:55] <TarZach> Vooloo: ok, so, you added it to iptables, and it still refuses, right ?
[15:55] <OerHeks> drsa2, open terminal: alsamixer ( and press F4 capture) and see if there is a mic muted
[15:55] <Vooloo> TarZach: yep
[15:55] <TarZach> Vooloo: check ufw, enable the port from that.
[15:55] <elementz_temp> jrib: or i guess its called lightdm now.
[15:56] <drsa2> no it is not
[15:56] <Pici> !floodbots | Curious_Cube
[15:56] <chessteach> How do you remove the ubuntu logo watermark from the desktop. At the moment I have ubuntu, it's version, and it's logo superimposed as a watermark on my desktop as though it was part of the background image.
[15:56] <Vooloo> TarZach: do I need to tell the SSH server to accept connections? cause I can't find any information on wether or not it is turned off by default
[15:56] <achandra> drussell, ping
[15:56] <bazhang> WhyBotWhy_, hi
[15:57] <jrib> elementz_temp: if you want to start syndaemon regardless of what environment you pick in lightdm, then you might try ~/.xprofile (NOTE: I am not sure this still works; but I'd try this first).  If you only want it to start with fluxbox and not with unity for example, then use the fluxbox startup file you mentioned
[15:57] <elementz_temp> jrib: thx
[15:59] <drsa2> in alsa mixer capture it is not muted
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-fast update && sudo apt-fast upgrade
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> oops
[16:00] <elementz_temp> jrib: what about init.d / upstart though?
[16:00] <jrib> elementz_temp: you start syndaemon running as user I believe
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> :source /usr/share/byobu/keybindings/f-keys.screen.disable
[16:01] <elementz_temp> jrib: yes
[16:01] <drsa2> #OerHeks
[16:01] <tryingUbuntu> is there a way to PERMANENTLY disable the keyboard when mouse is plugged in with out having to do anything on startup??
[16:02] <OerHeks> drsa2, then check your skype settings
[16:02] <drsa2> ya
[16:02] <tryingUbuntu> woooops   Not keyboard,,, Touchpad
[16:02] <drsa2> checked
[16:02] <drsa2> it
[16:02] <Curious_Cube> Hey !
[16:02] <Curious_Cube> how to use cloak?
[16:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> Curious_Cube: ask in #help
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Curious_Cube  ask in #freenode
[16:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> then you need a reg'd nick, and identify it
[16:02] <OerHeks> Curious_Cube, join #freenode and ask a helper
[16:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> er yea sorry, #freenode
[16:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> >.<
[16:03] <drsa2> even my 10.04 was having similer problem
[16:03] <OerHeks> *after 2 weeks on this service
[16:03] <tryingUbuntu> disable touchpad is checked but the touchpad is still active
[16:03] <drsa2> i followed
[16:03] <garamburu> hello
[16:04] <tryingUbuntu> is there a way to PERMANENTLY disable the touchpad when mouse is plugged in with out having to do anything on startup??
[16:04] <drsa2> i followed this for ubutnu 10.04 it was sucess but not in 12.4
[16:04] <drsa2> OerHeks
[16:05] <drsa2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tULmqpe5Yos
[16:05] <jrib> tryingUbuntu: sometimes you can do it in the bios.  I suppose you could just remove the relevant kernel module too.  Why don't you want to run anything on startup though?
[16:05] <vitimiti> tryingUbuntu, there are touchpad applets that will do that
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> tryingUbuntu  this page tells you to use xinput https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad  <-- scroll down
[16:06] <tryingUbuntu> jrib I have an HP that has the touchpad right in my way when typing I touch it and mess up cursor location
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> tryingUbuntu, this ppa has a pckg, check to make sure your release is covered.  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/touchpad-indicator-now-automatically.html
[16:06] <jrib> tryingUbuntu: the wiki page MonkeyDust just mentioned should have some options (including just having syndaemon disable the touchpad when you type
[16:06] <jrib> )
[16:07] <tryingUbuntu> jrib  thx all
[16:08] <datruth> so can anyone help me with a video conference server solution for ubuntu?
[16:09] <elementz_temp> actually somebody has asked a similar question to mine on askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/195307/xsession-xinitrc-xmonad-and-lightdm
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> tryingUbuntu, I use the touchpad indicator, a life saver here.
[16:09] <elementz_temp> maybe somebody can clarify this? what is the convention when launching programs after startup?
[16:09] <DarkStar1> Hello. I have postfix/dovecot(mysql backend) installed on a webserver and use roundcube for the webmail front end. Only problem is I'd now like for each user to be able to change their own passwords. Is there an alternative to roundcube that has this functionality built in?
[16:10] <jrib> elementz_temp: ~/.xprofile (or ~/.config/autostart if you want to create a .desktop filel) is the answer to that persons question
[16:10] <datruth> DarkStar1: I'm using the samething I believe there is an addon for that
[16:11] <Curious_Cube> How to see ip?
[16:11] <elementz_temp> jrib: still confused. but thx :-)
[16:11] <DarkStar1> datruth: Really? That would be cool
[16:11] <drsa2> hello
[16:12] <datruth> DarkStar1: try reading http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-with-postfix-dovecot-mysql-roundcube-iredadmin-on-debian-6-squeeze-p2
[16:12] <drsa2> microphone is not working in my ubuntu 12.04
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> drsa2  in a terminal, type alsamixer, see if anything is muted (MM)
[16:15] <drsa2> just checked it nothign wrong there
[16:15] <DarkStar1> datruth: thx
[16:17] <datruth> yup
[16:20] <Bastian_b> Hello, is it possible to disable the mouse auto focus when a window (of an application) is loaded? For the moment each time I open an application, and when it is loading, I switch back to another one to wait, the mouse focus the new application when it is loaded its quite disturbing :)
[16:21] <lenovo> hi
[16:22] <lenovo> i need help In mathematics, a binary relation , any help
[16:22] <bazhang> !ot | lenovo
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Bastian_b  system settings, universial access, hover click
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> drsa2  keep it in the channel please
[16:25] <Bastian_b> MonkeyDust, I have the old menu with Preferences/Administration submenus, where can I find this univerl access please?
[16:29] <llaskin> hi, how do I find where the .profile for a specific user is located?
[16:29] <dhiwank> hhahaha
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> Bastian_b  which ubuntu version?
[16:34] <drsa2> hi all
[16:34] <drsa2> how to replay to a particular person in this channel
[16:35] <bazhang> !tab | drsa2
[16:36] <drsa2> oh just i wanna press my tab bark
[16:36] <drsa2> no
[16:36] <drsa2> !tab bazhang
[16:36] <bazhang> drsa2, did you have an actual ubuntu support question
[16:37] <carpi> hi. am i allowed to ask help related to ubuntu on this channel?
[16:37] <drsa2> ya i got one
[16:37] <bekks> carpi: Yes.
[16:37] <Yxven> Which files should I have monit monitor for changes to improve my server's security?
[16:39] <drsa2> wer can i find a solution
[16:39] <carpi> i have ralink 3060 network card. I am using ubuntu 12.04. i am not able to use the wifi card under ubuntu 12.04. I followed the directions at "http://askubuntu.com/questions/84959/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3060-wireless-card-working". Still not working. Could someone please tell me what I can try next?
[16:39] <sliddjur> How do I look what packages a program contains in command line?
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> drsa2, Are you a native english speaker?
[16:41] <drsa2> i can speak and understand
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> !pm |drsa2
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> drsa2, Cool, just ask your questions regarding any problems. I don't PM if you continue to pm me I will put you on ignore.
[16:43] <carpi> would i have to recompile?
[16:44] <drsa2> sorry i am new to this, can any one help to fix my microphone problem
[16:45] <ace> hello, i have a 32b binary on a 64b ubuntu 12 and it cannot run it and display  No such file or directory
[16:47] <carpi> can someone please help? or atleast point me in the right direction?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> !wifi > carpi
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> carpi, The ubuntu forums is a great place for help besides here.
[16:49] <drsa2> micro phone is not working
[16:50] <chessteach> Does anyone know how to remove the text Ubuntu from the bottom left hand corner of the screen?
[16:50] <drsa2> ! microphone is not working
[16:51] <WeThePeople> drsa2, have you checked alsamixer?
[16:51] <WeThePeople> chessteach, what distro
[16:51] <chessteach> ubuntu WeThePeople
[16:51] <rook> rook1134
[16:51] <WeThePeople> chessteach, 12.04?
[16:51] <drsa2> ! WeThePeople yes
[16:52] <chessteach> WeThePeople: yes
[16:52] <drsa2> its not muted
[16:52] <proc_> Hi, I want to install grub in the mbr of a flash card and then boot onto a regular IDE HD. Will grub-install install the MBR as well?
[16:52] <proc_> or will it just put /boot/grub onto the flash card?
[16:52] <WeThePeople> drsa2, chessteach, idk then
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> proc_, are you in the OS right now?
[16:53] <proc_> wilee-nilee: yepp
[16:53] <trinode> Hey, I've replaced my network card, now ubuntu is calling the new card eth1, can I make it forget it ever saw the old card and just call the new one eth0?
[16:53] <drsa2> sorry chesstach?
[16:53] <chessteach> WeThePeople: Should I not be seeing that?
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> proc_, May I ask why the flash card
[16:53] <drsa2> WeThePeople, chessteach, idk then means
[16:54] <proc_> wilee-nilee: alix2c2 card with tinybios, only supports boot from flash, but I've mounted a IDE bridge to it with an 2.5" IDE HDD
[16:54] <mknarr_> trinode,  yep you can you just need to edit the interfaces file
[16:54] <proc_> so currenly I have an own modified supergrub on it but that won't make the boot automatic
[16:54] <pietro10> Hi. Not sure if this is the right place, but (and this happened on both Kubuntu and Linnux Mint so)
[16:54] <pietro10> after editing ~/.fonts.conf to set some custom serif and sans-serif typefaces, the drawing of my fonts are wrong. Hinting is wrong which causes bad letter spacing on the Ubuntu font (which appears to be fixed with hintnone but I don't know) and fonts are badly antialiased; t in a monospace font looks way too blurry. How can I fix it? Thanks. I can provide screenshots if necessary.
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> pietro10  are you now on Mint?
[16:55] <pietro10> yes, but this also happened on Kubuntu witht he 12.10 ubeta update (they didn't have a clue)
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> pietro10  both are not supported here
[16:56] <proc_> wilee-nilee: do you know if grub-install would be enough or is there some MBR magic I have to perform first?
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[16:56] <trinode> mknarr_, are you sure? that tells it the settings to use for each interface, not what to call  each interface
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> proc_, Not sure I don't really understand what your doing and I suspect it is not ubuntu relaTED AS WELL.
[16:56] <WindBuntu> yesterday, out of the blue, ubuntu 12.04 froze up like an iceberg, had to turn off the power at the computer tower to use the computer.
[16:57] <pietro10> ok cool
[16:57] <pietro10> I also said this happened in Kubuntu
[16:57] <pietro10> so I'm assumign this is a problem with ALL ubuntus
[16:57] <proc_> wilee-nilee: it is ubuntu related since I've use ubuntu on the server.
[16:57] <pietro10> it would help if the problem was fixed everywhere, not just int two variants
[16:57] <pietro10> also my experience with #linuxmint-help has not been good (general cluelessness) and I already mentioned kubuntu was not a help
[16:57] <jrib> pietro10: so boot a release of ubuntu and verify it's an issue
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> pietro10  12.10 is not supported here, that's what i mean
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> proc_, Cool I just don't really understand what you are doing I can't really help. ;)
[16:58] <trinode> mknarr_: looks like  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules has something to do with it
[16:58] <pietro10> I would have to do that late
[16:58] <pietro10> r
[16:58] <pietro10> as for 12.10 I was mentioning when it happened
[16:58] <proc_> wilee-nilee: np
[17:01] <raymond_> Is it possible to _force_ a particular USB port to transmit power?  Regardless if a device is detected?
[17:06] <maplesoft> how to play .mov files efficiently ?
[17:06] <jchristi> vlc (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html)
[17:07] <maplesoft> jchristi:  vlc dont
[17:07] <bobweaver> Is anyone here good with askubuntu ? how do I put comment's Like commented code in the posts , for Like ##I edited this    or //I edited this  <!-- I edit this -->
[17:08] <bobweaver> aka commenting out
[17:08] <maplesoft> how to play .mov files efficiently ? i have vlc, mplayer . none plays it
[17:08] <Elesa> Hi, I installed Ubuntu to a External USB Drive (not Live USB, it was a full install), can I use it in another computer with supported hardware just like a Live USB? Or am I going to have trouble?
[17:10] <Agalloch> Hi all, can you please help me? I am connected via VNC to my VPS which is new. I installed openssh-server but i still cannot login to via ssh remotely, only localy with VNZ...
[17:10] <subone_>  Can I mount a NFS using fstab setting the owner user/group to apache?
[17:10] <grandal_prime> I got this werid problem when i plug in a second monitor on my laptop.  The terminal app, is always on top. even though it does not have focus.
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, generally yes, you have to just try really
[17:11] <Elesa> that's awesome :D
[17:11] <Elesa> thank you!
[17:11] <jrib> Agalloch: can you login locally (on the server) with ssh?
[17:11] <adem1> Hi, does someone know to inform me about the xfce, i want to know, how stable it is
[17:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> adem1: very :)
[17:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> adem1: i used it for a long time
[17:12] <rrstrty> 'lo all
[17:12] <Agalloch> jrib, yes i can, but i cant remotely. ssh name@localhost works (i am connected via VNC there) but with putty client remote i cant
[17:12] <adem1> is it more stable than gnome and unity?
[17:13] <jrib> Agalloch: what happens when you try?
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> maplesoft, .mov is quicktime a apple type, not real friendly to open source, possible maybe, but sometimes even things which should work do not.
[17:13] <grandal_prime> adem1, i install it on servers if the admin needs to have a gui
[17:14] <Agalloch> jrib, it ask for login, i type my name. than Password: and still output is, like my pw is wrong. But i am sure that pw is ok, i tryied it on local ssh and vnz too )
[17:14] <grandal_prime> for file management and whatnot.  but i know there are issues with it as a full blown desktop.  Like for instance, playdeb.net does not work right with it.
[17:15] <grandal_prime> it will pretty cleanly uninstall, you can always put it on and test it out
[17:15] <adem1> thank you very much!
[17:16] <adem1> last question... is it more stable and faster than lubuntus openbox?
[17:16] <netturu> hello
[17:17] <gordonjcp> adem1: xfce is okay
[17:18] <adem1> i want to know because i dont like very much lubuntu's UI
[17:18] <Elesa> if your PC is decent enough it should work fine
[17:18] <Cyberspaceloa> adem1: I'm on a pretty fresh install of Xubuntu 12.04 and I'm liking it well
[17:18] <grandal_prime> xfce uses thunar..
[17:19] <Cyberspaceloa> adem1: also, my PC is far from decent
[17:19] <grandal_prime> file manager..its ok, i prefer nautilus.
[17:19] <Elesa> why don't you try it in a Live USB and see for yourself? xD
[17:19] <Mir09> adem1: xcfe is very stable
[17:19] <Elesa> that's the best way to find out
[17:19] <adem1> i tried it
[17:19] <Cyberspaceloa> grandal_prime: I'm still deciding whether I like thunar. It doesn't deal with samba mounts as well, but I mount everything through fstab so
[17:19] <grandal_prime> but the thing with nautilus is that there are a lot of gnome things wich really add a lot of functionality to nautilus..so i wind up back to using gnome, and so...basically unity.
[17:20] <Elesa> like what things, grandal_prime?
[17:20] <adem1> So the recipe is xubuntu with nautilus?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> any recommends for honeypots?
[17:21] <grandal_prime> i really like gnome3  but there was something about it that was causing me problems on the netbooks...i dont rememeber what it was exactly...oh ya there was no 2d wheni tried it..and when you try and run 3d desktop on a netbook with an external monitor...it is damn slow
[17:21] <shaneo> hi guys my sound icon has dissapeared from the indicator is there anyway to make it re-appear
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> !security > lotuspsychje
[17:22] <grandal_prime> Cyberspaceloa, ya the samba..gigalo connation type stuff just really works well with gnome
[17:22] <grandal_prime> nautilus scripts...well they work best with...guess what...nautilus.
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  better type /msg ubottu !security
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: ok tnx
[17:23] <grandal_prime> if gnome 3 had 3d id use it.  I know thats what my kids would prefer.
[17:23] <grandal_prime> it is just really easy to use.
[17:24] <grandal_prime> not like unity..where you have search for everything and then stick it to hiddy go peek bar.
[17:24] <WindBuntu> shaneo Right click panel, use Add to Panel, highlight Indicator Applet, then Add. That shoud do it!
[17:24] <TheFlipside> i dont have kids
[17:24] <grandal_prime> TheFlipside, there is instructional videos on how to make kids ..if thats what you need?
[17:24] <adem1> thank you guys cya
[17:24] <TheFlipside> cant you explain it here?
[17:25] <shaneo> WindBuntu nothing happens with right click on panel also tried win+alt+right click...im running unity
[17:25] <grandal_prime> I could but i would have to charge you
[17:25] <tyler_d> grandal_prime: you take bitcoin?
[17:25] <Boreeas> My sound stopped working. I tried rebooting, restarting pulseaudio, reinstalled pulseaudio, but none of the helped.
[17:25] <Boreeas> Any idea what to do?
[17:25] <hungryhubby> compromized my network connection ....unable to connect to wired network
[17:25] <hungryhubby> help!!!!
[17:26] <tyler_d> !detail | hungryhubby
[17:26] <BlueWolf> Hi could someone explain the difference between Alternate install CD for 64-bit PC (AMD64) and  Desktop CD for 64-bit PC (AMD64)?
[17:26] <WindBuntu> shaneo http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/restore-missing-volume-button-to-system-tray-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-gnome-3-classicfallback/
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  "The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD."
[17:27] <TheFlipside> i think the alternate install offers options like creating a RAID from the start
[17:27] <grandal_prime> tyler_d, hmmm...maybe ill just build a blog for this as its a bit off topic.  Ill get back to you on that.
[17:27] <tsimpson> BlueWolf: the http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ page explains it pretty well
[17:27] <tyler_d> grandal_prime: lol, gitt 'er dun.... no pun intended
[17:27] <shaneo> WindBuntu yes i've seen that guide and as I said i dont have the feature for adding icons apparently cause none of those button combinations work for me
[17:28] <grandal_prime> BlueWolf, ...the server disk...is for the server,  The desktop disk, is for installing a desktop.
[17:28] <tyler_d> !details | hungryhubby
[17:28] <shaneo> WindBuntu as that guide states it's for Gnome3 im using Unity3D
[17:28] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: tsimpson: Ok so it would be better to get Alternate install CD for 64-bit PC (AMD64)?
[17:29] <tsimpson> BlueWolf: unless you want the advanced features, the Desktop CD is most likely what you want
[17:30] <BlueWolf> tsimpson: Do they have anything seriously different?
[17:30] <tsimpson> BlueWolf: the only difference is the installer, the end system installed is exactly the same
[17:30] <tsimpson> unless you want to do LVM/RAID or OEM stuff, use the Desktop CD
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> whats a good 'honeypot' for ubuntu to run on virtual machine?
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[17:32] <llaskin> (12:29:49 PM) llaskin: hi, how do I find where the .profile for a specific user is located?  his home directory is /var/lib/jenkins  but thats not where his .profile seems to live(and I am unsure where to look)
[17:32] <EgyParadox> lotuspsychje, honeyd
[17:32] <Elesa> honeypot?
[17:32] <nyuszika7h> llaskin, if there isn't a .profile file there, chances are he doesn't have one.
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> EgyParadox:tnx mate lemme check
[17:32] <swegdssgds> 19:30 -!- [Users #ubuntu]
[17:32] <swegdssgds> 19:30 -!- Vooloo HaltingState greenmang0 Fireblasto MarcN indel ghostcart keelzebub bipul einsof wiiguy Commander1024 opalepatrick daedelus gmi chrs_ YoMomma Mailman sphenxes vooze zastern d[^_^]b clakes jayeffkay Starkey dyrvere felipealmeida GWild mikestewart bchristensen johnthebear DangerOnTheRangr dirtydevil genii-around danielbw chandan|ubuntu om26er tyler_d
[17:32] <swegdssgds>           olli overbythere Kenpachi7996 multipass mindfsck CookieM_ witquicked bradleyprice Calinou marowanna
[17:32] <Boreeas> ಠ_ಠ
[17:32] <thrasher194> hi
[17:32] <om26er> \o/
[17:33] <Boreeas> Elesa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29
[17:33] <Calinou> thank you
[17:33] <Elesa> thanks!
[17:33] <overbythere> ew..
[17:33] <swegdssgds> 19:32 [ cheez0r         ] [ fusebox        ] [ kcc             ] [ nopcode         ] [ soderluk       ] [ zastern        ]
[17:33] <swegdssgds> 19:32 [ chessteach      ] [ fxhp           ] [ kcm1700_        ] [ nopf            ] [ soee           ] [ Zed`           ]
[17:33] <swegdssgds> 19:32 [ Chewtoy         ] [ f|shy          ] [ keeb            ] [ NOsen           ] [ Sokel          ] [ zelluz         ]
[17:33] <zastern> swegdssgds: what are you doing
[17:33] <Boreeas> OH hell
[17:33] <swegdssgds> 19:32 [ chicognu        ] [ g_byers[Away]  ] [ keelzebub       ] [ nothingspecial  ] [ SolarisBoy     ] [ ZenGuy         ]
[17:33] <FloodBot1> swegdssgds: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <pepee> ...
[17:33] <BlueWolf> tsimpson: What is LVM/RAID or OEM? Is the Desktop more common? And would it be considered better?
[17:33] <overbythere> ty guys :D
[17:33] <tsimpson> BlueWolf: if you don't know, you don't need  them
[17:33] <nyuszika7h> wtf is happening here
[17:34] <BlueWolf> tsimpson: Ok thanks :D
[17:34] <ghostcart> What's with the name spam?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> !info honeyd
[17:35] <Pici> ghostcart: they've been taken care of.
[17:35] <ghostcart> Oh, it wasn't a request for me to be here?
[17:35] <ghostcart> coolio
[17:35] <grandal_prime> wow it looks like gnome2d is supported now?
[17:36] <ghostcart> is there any good way to get the layout from 10.x on 12?
[17:36] <Boreeas> My sound stopped working. I tried rebooting, restarting pulseaudio, reinstalled pulseaudio, but none of that helped.
[17:36] <Boreeas> Does anyone know what to do?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> Boreeas  in a terminal, type alsamixer, make sure nothing's muted (MM)
[17:37] <sistematico> Boreeas: paste lspci on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> EgyParadox:tnx again for honeyd, do you use it yourself?
[17:39] <EgyParadox> lotuspsychje, I used to
[17:39] <Boreeas> MonkeyDust: Nope, nothing muted
[17:39] <Boreeas> sistematico: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258478/
[17:39] <EgyParadox> ur welcome
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> EgyParadox:would it be recommended running snort virtual aswell?
[17:39] <EgyParadox> lotuspsychje, I am not sure about that
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> EgyParadox:ok tnx anyway
[17:43] <UTF> i just updated my main puter yesterday... and now i get Grub error 22? anyone had that before?
[17:43] <isismelting> ehlo
[17:44] <nydel> hiya
[17:44] <hungryhubby> look iam using natty unable to connect to my wired ethernet
[17:44] <hungryhubby> see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258489/
[17:44] <sram> hi need help with Ubuntu cron
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> is natty supported?
[17:45] <hungryhubby> please help me with these errors
[17:45] <graingert> hungryhubby: try upgrading to 12.04
[17:45] <hungryhubby> well i like gnome 2 interface
[17:46] <hungryhubby> just help me connect to internet
[17:46] <graingert> hungryhubby: try upgrading to 12.04 and install gnome-panel, or MINT
[17:46] <graingert> sorry not mint
[17:46] <sram> I run the shell script to dump mysql it works manually whn it runs in cron the back file size is 0 KB ??? pls help
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> !cron | sram
[17:46] <graingert> hungryhubby: mate
[17:46] <sram> thanks let me see
[17:47] <graingert> hungryhubby: http://mate-desktop.org/
[17:47] <hungryhubby> iam not ready to switch
[17:47] <hungryhubby> better ill swtich to kde than any other
[17:47] <hungryhubby> somebody help me
[17:48] <sram> @lotus 00 01 * * * rusty /home/rusty/rusty-list-files.sh this is my cron
[17:48] <sram> why it wud nt backup mysql
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> hungryhubby  2 weeks left before natty is dead -- what's the content of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:48] <bekks> sram: "wud nt"?
[17:48] <UTF> what irc client are you all using? irsii?
[17:49] <hungryhubby> see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258489/
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> sram: you could try #mysql
[17:49] <graingert> !patience | hungryhubby
[17:49] <hungryhubby> MonkeyDust: just tell me what should i do if want to continue with natty
[17:50] <sram> @ lotus $mysqldump -u $user -p$pass --all-databases > /home/something/mysqlbackup/database_bak$(date '+%y-%m-%d-%T').sql
[17:50] <sram> manual run works fine
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> hungryhubby  what's the content of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:50] <hungryhubby> i dont know
[17:50] <graingert> hungryhubby: ifconfig's been deprecated for a while now
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> hungryhubby  please collaborate or go somewhere else for assistance
[17:51] <graingert> hungryhubby: https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/#ifconfig
[17:51] <hungryhubby> how do i wake up my ethernet card....
[17:51] <graingert> hungryhubby: does it work in a 12.04 live cd?
[17:51] <graingert> hungryhubby: does it work in an 11.10 live cd?
[17:51] <graingert> s/cd/usb/
[17:52] <graingert> g
[17:52] <hungryhubby> MonkeyDust: see i think i pasted something like auto eth0 inside that file but it doesnt work
[17:52] <hungryhubby> i dont have 11.10,but i have 12.04
[17:52] <grandal_prime> has anyone here set up gnome3 2d shell?
[17:53] <hungryhubby> only working with natty(installed)
[17:53] <sram> $mysqldump -u $user -p$pass --all-databases > /home/something/mysqlbackup/database_bak$(date '+%y-%m-%d-%T').sql
[17:53] <sram>  00 01 * * * sram /home/sram/myscript.sh this abv  is my cron its not working
[17:54] <bekks> sram: Please pastebin the entire script, not just a single line.
[17:54] <sram> ok
[17:54] <sram> i did
[17:54] <bekks> sram: And scramble all passwords before.
[17:54] <sram> got it
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> grandal_prime:you mean login into gnome classic?
[17:55] <hungryhubby> clear
[17:56] <sram> #!/bin/bash
[17:56] <sram> #Shell script to backup mysql
[17:56] <sram> user="root"
[17:56] <sram> pass="secretuntilnow:)"
[17:56] <sram> mysql="$(which mysql)"
[17:56] <FloodBot1> sram: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <sram> mysqldump="$(which mysqldump)"
[17:56] <sram> $mysqldump -u $user -p$pass --all-databases > /home/sram/mysqlbackup/database_bak$(date '+%y-%m-%d-%T').sql
[17:56] <bekks> !paste > sram
[17:56] <scsinutz> Are there any tools to create Ubuntu AMI's sort of like Boxgrinder?
[17:57] <sram> ok bekks that was the script
[17:57] <bekks> scsinutz: Whats an Ubuntu AMI?
[17:57] <bekks> sram: Use a pastebin.
[17:57] <grandal_prime> looks like fedora has it..i cant find anything  for ubntun tough.
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> scsinutz  what boxgrinder?
[17:57] <bekks> sram: DO NOT paste it in this channel.
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> what's*
[17:57] <scsinutz> "Amazon Machine Image" For EC2
[17:57] <grandal_prime> lotuspsychje, no i would like the gnome3 interface just thought the animations
[17:58] <sram> ok bekks
[17:58] <grandal_prime> withouth the animations i mean
[17:58] <grandal_prime> grrr and i cant type today
[17:58] <aditsu> hi, I installed pidgin but when I try to run it I get "pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_media_manager_get_pipeline"
[17:58] <aditsu> how can I fix it?
[17:59] <Boreeas> My sound stopped working. I tried rebooting, restarting pulseaudio, reinstalled pulseaudio, but none of that helped. Alsamixer reports nothing as muted, lscpi logs are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258478/
[17:59] <Boreeas> Does anyone know what to do?
[18:01] <willdabeast> Boreeas it was working before?
[18:01] <Boreeas> willdabeast: Yes. The problem came out of nowhere
[18:02] <Boreeas> It was literally working one moment and the next it was not
[18:02] <sram> someone can help ??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258535/
[18:03] <Cyberspaceloa> can someone ubottu me the pastebin choices?
[18:03] <llutz> sram: check the PATH in crons environment, does it find mysqldump at all?
[18:04] <sram> yes manually it works
[18:04] <llutz> sram: check the PATH in crons environment, does it find mysqldump at all?
[18:04] <llutz> sram: cron NOT manually
[18:04] <sram> not getting it .... which path
[18:05] <llutz> sram: $PATH the env-var holding pathes which are needed for "which" to work correctly
[18:06] <sram> you want me to export the $PATH = which mysqldump ??
[18:06] <blackgatonegro> Hello, how i update the software keys in Ubuntu? I am getting some "Unauthenticated software sources" errors
[18:06] <Cyberspaceloa> !paste > Cyberspaceloa
[18:06] <fantaghir> blackgatonegro, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:06] <llutz> sram: test your script using "mysqldump="/usr/bin/mysqldump"
[18:06] <sram> llutz can u edit and paste in in bin
[18:07] <sram> ok can u edit the script and paste it in bin ...
[18:07] <sram> lllutz ??
[18:07] <UTF> ahhh finally got it working
[18:07] <UTF> yay
[18:07] <willdabeast> Boreeas I'd just try an older version, see if it is the current version that's causing problems.
[18:08] <llutz> sram: test this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258553/
[18:08] <sram> thanks so much llutz i shall test it
[18:08] <Boreeas> I used to use an older version, just upgrade today. Worked fine both before and after the upgrade
[18:09] <llutz> sram: pastebin /tmp/cron-path.txt  please after running this cronjob
[18:09] <willdabeast> Boreeas, I mean it could still be a buggy version, just try the older.
[18:09] <dlebauer> is there a way to compress a directory but convert symlinks into actual files?
[18:09] <sram> llutz cat /tmp/cron-path.txt
[18:10] <sram> ??
[18:10] <dlebauer> tar -zcvf does not work
[18:10] <jacta> dlebauer, xzvf :p
[18:10] <tsimpson> dlebauer: add the -h flag
[18:11] <willdabeast> Boreeas, or just try rm -r ~/.pulse ~/.pulse-cookie if you don't want to do that yet.
[18:11] <sram> oh cool llutz $PATH > will go to /tmp/cron-path.txt
[18:12] <dlebauer> tsimpson tar -zcvfh mydir.tar.gz mydir does gave an error
[18:12] <blackgatonegro> Possible solutions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258562/
[18:12] <bekks> dlebauer: Use: tar cvzhf ...
[18:13] <bekks> Because -f expects the filename as next argument.
[18:13] <sram> llutz i forgot to tell u that i am non root but i can sudo
[18:14] <llutz> [19:53:46] <sram>  00 01 * * * sram /home/sram/myscript.sh    <- in what crontab do you have this line? personal-crontab, roots crontab, /etc/crontab /etc/cron.d/whatever ?
[18:15] <willdabeast> Boreeas any luck?
[18:15] <Boreeas> willdabeast: After removing .pulse and .pulse-cookie, it doesn't even start anymore
[18:15] <sram> i tried /etc/crontab sram crontab and root crontab
[18:15] <Boreeas> Reinstalling now
[18:15] <sram> crontab starts the script at the scheduled time
[18:15] <sram> but only a 0 kb file
[18:16] <llutz> sram: have you tested the script? did it work? what is  the content of /tmp/cron-path.txt?
[18:16] <brontosaurusrex> 'j #mac
[18:16] <Boreeas> Nope, no luck at all
[18:16] <Boreeas> ⟫ pulseaudio --start
[18:16] <sram> llutz i cant now dont have access
[18:16] <Boreeas> N: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at {c6d35ee0e07c4c729cd949e500000008}unix:/home/malte/.pulse/c6d35ee0e07c4c729cd949e500000008-runtime/native, which appears to be local. Probing deeper.
[18:16] <Boreeas> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[18:17] <sram> i can test it tomorrow and let u know if ur here
[18:17] <willdabeast> Boreeas, do speaker-test in terminal too
[18:17] <sram> i pretty much figured out what your point is ... shell is unable to get the home path of mysql
[18:17] <llutz> sram: root and personal crontabs don't use the "user" field, only /etc/crontab and files in /etc/cron.d/ do
[18:18] <sram> yes correct
[18:18] <sram> only /etc/crontab runs the script
[18:19] <willdabeast> Boreeas, once you've reinstalled pulse try pulseaudio --check if you haven't already.
[18:19] <willdabeast> Boreeas can you hear anything during the speaker-test?
[18:19] <llutz> sram: i don't read PMs
[18:19] <Boreeas> Yeah, pink noise
[18:20] <sram> ok llutz np
[18:20] <willdabeast> well thats good
[18:20] <Boreeas> pulseaudio --check gives me nothing. Can't start it either, same error as above
[18:20] <sram> but i can test it 2mro
[18:20] <willdabeast> Boreeas type padsp
[18:20] <bekks> sram: "2mro"?
[18:21] <willdabeast> did it tell you the error?
[18:21] <Boreeas> willdabeast: Nothing happens
[18:21] <Boreeas> pulseaudio -k tells me "no such process". pgrep pulseaudio gives me a pid though
[18:22] <willdabeast> Boreeas I don't know, at this point I'm just going to try and figure this out with you.
[18:22] <sram> /opt/mysql/sram/bin/mysql* llutz this is the home path
[18:22] <drupin> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[18:22] <llutz> sram: why don't you use the mysql-packages from repos?
[18:22] <bekks> drupin: When doing what...?
[18:23] <drupin> i get this error while install or upgrade bekks
[18:23] <Brewski> Can anyone help me manually compile xserver?
[18:23] <sram> mysql-packages for what backup ??
[18:23] <k4r1m> where does unity look for application shortcuts from? I'm trying to find the eclipse shortcut launcher..
[18:23] <Brewski> I've encountered a bug with touchscreens in portrait mode, http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/5024/
[18:24] <llutz> !info mysql-client-5.1 | sram
[18:24] <bekks> drupin: Then provide the complete output of the command you are running in a pastebin, as well as the output of lsb_release -a in a pastebin.
[18:24] <bekks> !paste | drupin
[18:25] <llutz> !info mysql-client-5.5 | sram   why don't you use this or why do you have mysql in /opt/mysql.... ?
[18:26] <willdabeast> Boreeas, you could look at http://ptspts.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-disable-pulseaudio-on-ubuntu.html
[18:26] <k4r1m> anyone?
[18:26] <sram> llutz its already installed hosted in cloud ... i cant reallt change it even if i would need to
[18:26] <willdabeast> Boreeas maybe killing it will help. Won't hurt.
[18:27] <drupin> bekks: does pastebinit takes long time
[18:27] <bekks> drupin: No.
[18:27] <DarkStar1> there a difference between md5 and md5-crypt? One is salted one is not?
[18:27] <drupin> its still reading
[18:28] <bekks> drupin: In your browser...?
[18:28] <drupin> terminal
[18:28] <drupin> i need to enter just pastebinit
[18:29] <drupin> or something else also
[18:30] <bekks> drupin: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[18:30] <bekks> If you just typed pastebinit, you will wait forever.
[18:31] <drupin> ok
[18:31] <drupin> yes thats what happened
[18:32] <drupin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258598/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258601/
[18:32] <bekks> drupin: Your filesystem is filled up entirely.
[18:33] <bekks> You have to free up space.
[18:33] <drupin> opps
[18:33] <scott_z> I want to install a program that has a list of dependencies. How do I query my system for each dependency and version number?
[18:33] <drupin> bekks: how you got that?
[18:33] <bekks> drupin: Actually I just misread the output.
[18:34] <sram> scott....rpm -ql
[18:34] <sram> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258535/ bekks any help ?
[18:35] <bekks> drupin: dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory  --- what happened to that file?
[18:35] <tinti> if someone is having this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/969359
[18:35] <drupin> i dont know there was a freez a while ago .. its installed in the USB
[18:35] <ryan_> gia
[18:35] <bekks> drupin: Did you delete it?
[18:35] <drupin> nope
[18:36] <ryan_> giati o firefox ine aglika se eliniko ubuntu
[18:36] <scott_z> sram: I tried that. 'rpm -ql python' says that python is not installed but i know that it is as I can run python. Any other ideas?
[18:36] <drupin> shall i do a revocer os file system bekks
[18:36] <drupin> recover
[18:36] <bekks> drupin: Please provide the output of ls -lha /var/lib/dpkg/ in a pastebin
[18:36] <glebihan> sram, scott_k : rpm ?? on ubuntu ??
[18:37] <bekks> glebihan: Sure, it exists :)
[18:37] <drupin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258617/
[18:37] <glebihan> bekks, yes, sure...
[18:37] <bekks> glebihan: Why shouldnt rpm work on ubuntu - just because it isnt the default package manager?
[18:37] <drupin> bekks: thanks for quick paste bin.. its easy to paste now
[18:37] <glebihan> bekks, come on...
[18:37] <ryan_> giati o firefox ine aglika se eliniko ubuntu
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> rpm is in the repos, didnt know that myself
[18:37] <bekks> drupin: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available-old /var/lib/dpkg/available
[18:37] <sram> bekks any help on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258535/
[18:38] <glebihan> scott_k, apt-cache depends <packagename> will list the dependencies
[18:38] <bekks> glebihan: Come on what? Prove me I am wrong that rpm a) does not exist on Ubuntu and b) does not work on Ubuntu.
[18:38] <sram> scott what is it UB | RH | FD ?
[18:38] <glebihan> scott_k, or "apt-cache show <packagename>"
[18:39] <drupin> done bekks
[18:39] <bekks> sram: Replace $mysqldump with the full path of the binary and do not use "which".
[18:39] <bekks> drupin: Now the error should be gone.
[18:39] <glebihan> bekks, I'm not saying, I'm saying it's stupid to use rpm on ubuntu and that it can only lead to problems (especially for someone who doesn't know what he's doing)
[18:39] <drupin> ok let me try
[18:40] <bekks> glebihan: No one said it would be a good idea to use rpm - but technically it works :)
[18:40] <sram> ok bekks any other
[18:40] <sram> sugg..
[18:40] <glebihan> bekks, as I said, sure...
[18:40] <bekks> sram: Try that. After that, we can discuss it again.
[18:40] <sram> :)
[18:40] <scott_z> glebihan: thanks, returns too much info but I can sort thru it to find what I need
[18:40] <sram> bekks ..cant try now will suerly try later and let u know...if ur here
[18:41] <glebihan> scott_k, the "Depends" line in "apt-cache show <packagename>" should show just what you need
[18:41] <machicola> is it normal that when i do ifconfig i have no ip address for eth0
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258623/ <-- RPM
[18:42] <machicola> and why is that
[18:42] <machicola> i thought eth0 = network card
[18:42] <Ironsight> Umm, I bought torchlight, and it fails on update every time, anyone else getting this issue?
[18:42] <sram> bekks  qq ...why the same script works manual run and backupdump is fine ???
[18:42] <drupin> bekks: thankeee .. how you remember this steps....
[18:43] <llutz>  sram because $PATH is different in cron environment
[18:43] <trism> Ironsight: fails in what way? what error do you get?
[18:43] <sram> ah ok..
[18:43] <frankblax> 12.04 LTS, LTSP scenario: when several users try to print from Gedit, the icon printer disappears: closing/opening Gedit and the icon appears again. Any hint? Thanks
[18:43] <sram> so cron was the culprit
[18:44] <BluesKaj> Ironsight, what's torchlight?
[18:44] <sram> i just worked on script 5 hours doing nothing ...just running it moe than 10 + times
[18:44] <trism> BluesKaj: one of the games from the humble indie bundle that you can download in the software-center
[18:44] <sram> now the tweak is clear ....thanks llutz and bekks
[18:45] <Ironsight> trying to pastebin this...
[18:45] <sram> long live irc..
[18:45] <bekks> drupin: I am dealing with Linux/Unix for more than a decade now ;)
[18:45] <hypershock> this is weird, all of my symlinks to non-linux filesystems that I used to have privileges to are all suddenly read only. did something change in the last update to cause this?
[18:45] <Ironsight> trism http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=9758
[18:46] <TheQ> Hi, my tty is kind of distorted. I once tried to change its resolution to native 1680x1050 but this seems to have caused some problems and now its unreadable as its only dots and lines, Any idea how I can repair it? (Ubuntu Lucid)
[18:47] <Smrtz> Hey, I'm trying to connect to my schools wireless, but it's not working, the password authentication box keeps popping up.  I know I'm putting the right info in.  The school makes you download a client if your on windows, but says there's native Linux support. Can someone help me?
[18:47] <trism> Ironsight: looks like the new package is buggy, something like: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/torchlight_1.0+2012+09+26-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb; should work
[18:48] <Ironsight> could it be a bad download?
[18:48] <bekks> Smrtz: How is authentication down - using WPA2-EAP?
[18:48] <Smrtz> bekks, how can I check?
[18:48] <bekks> Smrtz: By reading the setup instructions provided by your school.
[18:48] <trism> Ironsight: no the package is kinda broken, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/210224 I'm looking for a bug but I don't know where (if anywhere) those kinds of apps report their issues on launchpad
[18:49] <drupin> bekks: yes . within seconds u nailed it.. m just doing from 4 years..
[18:49] <sram> smrtz no client is required to hook into wifi
[18:49] <sram> on win
[18:50] <bekks> sram: Thats wrong, in general. :)
[18:50] <Smrtz> bekks, I don't have them, I'm in edit connectino settings, and it's WPA and WPA2 Enterprise with Tunneled TLS, but that could be wrong.  I've never edited this.
[18:50] <Smrtz> scram, yes it is.
[18:50] <mapu> having an issue with an error Ubuntu 12.04, apache error PEAR XML_RPC class
[18:50] <mrkuchbhi> hi ... i am trying to use two monitors...which i configure them such that they are next to each other horizontally...there is no prob..however when my one monitor is above the other...title bar in the monitor below is hidden under the main menu ... i can see just part of the title bar..not the whole thing....how could i fix this?
[18:50] <AMfish> Dots and lines,Morse code .
[18:50] <bekks> sram: Having Cisco Wifis, and using WPA2-EAP, you have to have their client.
[18:50] <mapu> xml_rpc and xml_rpc2 installed via apt-get
[18:50] <sram> bekks on windws there is a service called wireless zero config
[18:51] <sram> even for cisco
[18:51] <bekks> sram: You have no clue what WPA2 EAP is ment to be, dont you?
[18:51] <Smrtz> bekks, I have the certificate, and it's set to inner authentication: PAP
[18:51] <sram> i know wht these wep wpa are
[18:52] <Smrtz> scram, you're wrong... http://studentwireless.cnu.edu/
[18:53] <bekks> sram: Then please stop providing false information unless you know what EAP means.
[18:54] <Smrtz> heh, ghost_of_greedo, nice nick...
[18:54] <carli2> hi. youtube-dl got outdated. is there a newer version I can get?
[18:54] <WeThePeople> is there a irc for gparted
[18:54] <WeThePeople> ?
[18:54] <signornessuno> hi anyone use hotmail? i have a problem configuring the smtp server
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> sram  i guess avahi is similar to zeroconfig
[18:54] <Smrtz> bekks, I have to go, thanks for attempting to help..
[18:55] <elec29a> hi is the macbookpro network card working with the ndis driver or howto ? does someone know ?
[18:56] <sram> bekks i never knew that wifi needs a s/w
[18:57] <bekks> sram: Because there are more capabilities for wifi than you are using at home.
[18:57] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: /msg alis list *gparted*
[18:57] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: that should give you a list of any gparted related chans
[18:57] <Ironsight> signornessuno, don't you have to pay for smtp access?
[18:58] <signornessuno> Ironsight: this is new for me, pay what? from the web i can send email but i can't configure slypheed
[18:59] <WeThePeople> cyberspaceloa, where would those names be located at?
[18:59] <Ironsight> signornessuno, it's been a while since I used hotmail, and last time I did, if you wanted smtp access, you had to pay
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> Ironsight  guess your question is offtopic
[19:00] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking where the list appears in your IRC client?
[19:00] <Ironsight> MonkeyDust, not my question :)
[19:00] <WeThePeople> yers
[19:00] <WeThePeople> yes
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> signornessuno  ^^
[19:00] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: Um, what client are you using?
[19:00] <WeThePeople> xchat
[19:00] <signornessuno> Ironsight: i hate microsoft for this
[19:01] <palomer> hello, I'd like to run a sequence of commands and stop at the first one that fails
[19:01] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: I'm not too sure then. Did an extra tab or something pop up?
[19:01] <palomer> and I don't want to have to have a long chain of &&
[19:01] <WeThePeople> no
[19:01] <sram>  bekks i installed it and saw there are many options other than the hme wifi
[19:01] <palomer> I'd like to put all the commands in a single file
[19:01] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: navigate to wherever private messages go to in xchat
[19:01] <bekks> sram: Thats what I said...
[19:01] <mrkuchbhi> hi...i am on ubuntu 10.04... having problems when configuring two displays ... prob is on the main display..the title bar hides under the main menu..note that it does not disappear ... i can see part of it..it just hides most of it under the main menu .. how could i fix this?
[19:01] <sram> true
[19:01] <WeThePeople> cyberspaceloa, what client you using
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> palomer  better ask in #bash
[19:02] <rtaibah> Hello guys, I am having trouble with running dislocker. A Linux util that decrypts Microsoft's bitlocker encrypted drives. Anybody have experience in dislocker?
[19:02] <palomer> thanks
[19:02] <webjocky> had 10.04LTS. Did updates to 12.04LTS. Blank screen upon reboot after POST... any thoughts?
[19:03] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: I'm using irssi. I queried alis and I didn't see any gparted related channels on freenode
[19:03] <bekks> rtaibah: Just ask your question, instead of asking wether someone has the knowledge you are searching for. :)
[19:04] <WeThePeople> cyberspaceloa, its 'parted' on freenode, the 'g' is for gui
[19:04] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: I'm aware of that. You asked for gparted related channel
[19:05] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | webjocky
[19:05] <Cyberspaceloa> WeThePeople: anyways, I'm way offtopic now, so good luck to you
[19:05] <WeThePeople> ok just fyi ing
[19:05] <WeThePeople> thanks
[19:05] <webjocky> thanks, I'll check it out!
[19:05] <xx13x13> hi every body did you know irc chat for backtrack linux
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> xx13x13  type /join #backtrack-linux
[19:06] <rtaibah> Basically according to the man pages of dislocker, I should run dislocker-file but I only have dislocker in /usr/bin http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/45/idpl/18547941/numer/1/nazwa/dislocker
[19:07] <xx13x13> thanks
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> rtaibah  that's a redhat package
[19:08] <mads-> Does anyone know how to make chrome open fullscreen from commandline?
[19:09] <rtaibah> MonkeyDust: I know, those are just the man pages. I installed it on Ubuntu http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/outils/dislocker/download/
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> rtaibah  actually, if it's not in the repos, it's not supported here, better contact the maintainer
[19:13] <TLoT> rtaibah, you should use whatever support resources are available for that program, rather than ask here for something that's not in the repos so therefore most wouldn't see/use.
[19:14] <Boreeas> willdabeast: Sorry, it froze my computer and I had to reboot. Following the article you gave me worked, I have sound again.
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Boreeas  how did you do it
[19:14] <Boreeas> However, I can't figure out how to adjust my volume anymore. The keyboard keys don't react anymore, and the volume icon on the screen disappeared, too
[19:15] <Boreeas> MonkeyDust: Disabled pulseaudio. I guess it's using ALSA directly now
[19:17] <webjocky> ubottu: nomodeset did the trick for me, thanks a bunch for the quick response & the link
[19:18]  * webjocky feels like a tard and should hang out here more...
[19:18] <kendall_> I have been trying to get a quote for server support but no one has called or emailed.  Is there a US phone number I could call?
[19:18] <TLoT> kendall_, server support from... canonical?
[19:19] <kendall_> yes
[19:19] <TheLordOfTime> kendall_, http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41_39
[19:19] <TheLordOfTime> kendall_, the various types of "Ubuntu Advantage" server stuff can be found there, review them all carefully.
[19:20] <webjocky> wow, Ubuntu server support is really priced reasonably.
[19:20] <TheLordOfTime> i assume you'd want "advanced" for the coverage range, kendall_
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> webjocky, depending on the coverage type you need, but its easier to just learn how to admin a server yourself (IMO) rather than spend lots of money per year for enterprise-class support.
[19:22] <webjocky> TheLordOfTime, I completely agree. Was just commenting on the asking price.
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> webjocky, :)
[19:24] <webjocky> BluesKaj: thanks for the nomodeset info. That did help with the inital corrupt splash screen, but after that I still have a blank screen.
[19:25] <kendall_> yes ubuntu advantage standard server
[19:25] <gatuus> Hello, How can configure eth0, eth1 nics with statics ip's??
[19:26] <BluesKaj> webjocky, did you try the recovery kernel in grub , choose repair broken packages in the dialog , then reboot
[19:26] <brightsparks> I want to add a pci adapter card to my computer that will allow me to connect 2 sata drives and one one ATA/IDE drive internally and an eSata drive externally. The card comes with a cd with drivers on it. Says it's compatible with windoz and Mac-I suppose the drivers will be no good for linux but can I still connect and set up the card on a linux system?
[19:27] <webjocky> BluesKaj: haven't tried anything yet. I'm still pretty green @ Ubuntu or any *nix for that matter. Trying the recovery kernel now...
[19:29] <scooty_puff> what is the best partition type if the partition is only going to be used for storage?
[19:29] <gatuus> Hello, How can configure eth0  static ip?
[19:30] <gatuus> ipv4
[19:30] <gatuus> i'm using ubuntu servetr
[19:30] <gatuus> ..ver
[19:30] <llutz> gatuus: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[19:31] <gatuus> llutz: ok
[19:31] <ner0x> Working on a terrible old ubuntu computer ( I believe ). How can I confirm and then upgrade the system?
[19:31] <jrib> Agalloch: hmm, anyway to try without putty?
[19:32] <gatuus> jrib: another ssh client gui?? or even the oldy telnet??
[19:33] <BluesKaj> brightsparks, esata to sata is basically just plug 'n play , I just connected the esata to sata external drive directly to the mobo ..no card needed unless you have no sata connections on the mobo , the card will allow you to connect the IDE drive to sata on the mobo if you have them
[19:33] <a_b0y> i want to know that too, how do you set up ssh :)
[19:33] <ner0x> ssh? linux to linux?
[19:33] <macmartine> How can I run a command from within a init.d script as a different user? I tried su $APP_USER -c "$CMD"
[19:33] <a_b0y> sftp
[19:34] <ner0x> a_b0y: You have to use sftp?
[19:34] <tyler_d> a_b0y: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:34] <jclbrt> hey all quick question about the ls command
[19:34] <BluesKaj> ner0x, how old is the OS and the pc
[19:34] <Rahoul> @macmartine you can use sudo -u user "command"
[19:34] <a_b0y> i am using filezilla
[19:34] <tyler_d> !ask | jclbrt
[19:34] <ner0x> BluesKaj: PC is pretty old. OS, not sure, not the original. Not familiar enough with the innards of ubuntu to tell.
[19:35] <Rahoul> do a file and include it in /etc/init.d then give it chmod u+x permissions and then enable it on startup using rcconf and thatts it
[19:35] <ner0x> BluesKaj: Wait, I'll check the apt sources.
[19:35] <a_b0y> actually which is the best simple html text editor?
[19:35] <bekks> !poll | a_b0y
[19:35] <jclbrt> i've parsed the an ls output to a text file called filelist located in the same directory as where i am running ls. "ls > filelist"
[19:35] <jrib> gatuus: you are Agalloch ?  My suggestion was for him to try something other than putty :)
[19:35] <ner0x> Lot of newbs in here today. :-)
[19:36] <jclbrt> how ever it also displays the file "filelist" in there how do i exclude that one directory
[19:36] <jrib> jclbrt: what is your final goal?
[19:36] <ner0x> jclbrt: man ls.
[19:36] <gatuus> jrib: sorry
[19:36] <jclbrt> to create a file called filelist that has the entire output of ls
[19:36] <webjocky> ner0x: I represent that remark!
[19:36] <ner0x> a_b0y: Look at something called vim. Channel is #vim. Great editor.
[19:36] <BluesKaj> ner0x, open a terminal , lsb_release -a
[19:36] <jclbrt> but the filelist has to be in the same f folder
[19:36] <Andr3as> simple html editor? SciTE ftw!
[19:37] <ner0x> BluesKaj: No need to get any more info. The admins changed it to debian without me knowing. Nubs...
[19:37] <ner0x> webjocky: You are entitled to your opinion. :-)
[19:37] <jrib> gatuus: I just don't want to give you bad advice!
[19:37] <gatuus> ok
[19:37] <gatuus> well now
[19:38] <webjocky> ner0x: I'd hope so. The internets that I come from are kinda free in that regard.
[19:38] <gatuus> I've edited /etc/network/interfaces.. now what? service networking restart?? or something?
[19:38] <ner0x> webjocky: There are different internets!?
[19:38] <ner0x> :-)
[19:38] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: er right. So you're saying I can just connect an external sata disk directly to my motherboard. Yes I suppose I could do that. But since there are only 2 sata connections on my oldish mobo it would be nice if I could add the pci card with the extra sata connections etc. which returns us to the question of the drivers...(is it possible to install windows drivers on linux using wine?)?
[19:38] <webjocky> ner0x: haven't you hears? China has their own, Iran is starting their own... so yes! :P
[19:38] <webjocky> *heard
[19:39] <BluesKaj> brightsparks, I doubt you'll need any drivers , it should just pnp , like a I said
[19:39] <ner0x> webjocky: Fair enough. Guess it depends on your definition. lol
[19:40] <webjocky> ner0x: as would anything else?
[19:40] <ner0x> webjocky: Are you always this combative? lol
[19:40] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: ok. sounds hopeful lol. So why does it come with windows drivers if it's plug n play then?
[19:41] <mfb_> hi
[19:41] <mfb_> is there anybody
[19:41] <webjocky> ner0x: heh, sorry to come across that way. I'm just stongly opinionated & got too much sleep last night :)
[19:42] <ner0x> webjocky: No worries. I always get hate for the newb comments. lol
[19:42] <BluesKaj> brightsparks, covering their backsides ...just my opinion :)
[19:43] <brightsparks> BluesKaj: lol ok thanks.
[19:43] <webjocky> ner0x: newb comments make me feel welcome - especially when they come AFTER help :P
[19:44] <ner0x> webjocky: We were all newbs at one time.
[19:44] <Hatori> wew
[19:44] <brian2040> Yep, we all were.
[19:45] <ner0x> webjocky: Consider yourself lucky, when I started I had a dial-up connection.
[19:45] <ner0x> Plus, I find new things I never used all the time.
[19:45] <ner0x> cron for example. Never had a use for it, now I needed it. lol
[19:46] <webjocky> ner0x: yeah, I guess the only guy that was never a Linux n00b is Linus Torvalds...
[19:46] <ner0x> webjocky: Of course he was. When he started writing it. :-)
[19:56] <webjocky> ner0x: are you always this combative?
[19:57] <webjocky> BluesKaj: repair broken packages did the trick - thanks for teaching me to fish.
[19:57] <haso> .
[19:58] <willdabeast> Boreeas so did it work?
[20:01] <cwkomando> http://192.168.1.7:8080/JenifferLopezSexTape/
[20:01] <Froward> Hey, what's that open source font that starts with Uni.. something. It's for all OSes, it has emphasis on displaying all the weird unicode characters.
[20:01] <ner0x> webjocky-afk: I prefer authoritative.
[20:01] <llutz> too dumb to spam...
[20:01] <bekks> cwkomando: oh how you failed... Class C network. :P
[20:01] <Boreeas> willdabeast: More or less. Looks like I will have to write my own program to get bindings with the media keys thought. Thanks a lot!
[20:02] <willdabeast> Boreeas no problem, you can probably go into the config file though and change those bindings unless you've tried that.
[20:05] <Boreeas> willdabeast: Config file of what? Pulseaudio is disabled now, and ALSA doesn't offer media key bindings, I think?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Boreeas, the pulaeaudio daemon will continue to run and interfere until it's conf file is purged
[20:08] <Hatori> why?
[20:09] <Boreeas> BluesKaj: Yeah, the article I followed told me how to disable the autospawn. Since I had to restart anyway, pulseaudio is no longer running
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Boreeas, ok , cqause it can be a pita
[20:11] <BluesKaj> Boreeas,  just hope you can get webaudio to work without pulse
[20:11] <edgy> Hi, in grub.cfg there is kernel argument "recovery", where is this documented?
[20:11] <Boreeas> webaudio? Well, youtube seems to work fine, that's pretty much all I need for sound on the web :P
[20:13] <Nentify> Hello, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and have a small question. I've installed Java, and want to open all .jar's with Java by default. However, it's not on the "Open With" list. How can I add it to the list and/or open .jar's with it by default?
[20:13] <Nentify> You probably get this a lot, but thanks in advance. :)
[20:13] <BluesKaj> Boreeas, ok , what's your sound card , because I've been looking for a way out of using pulse , but wbaudio fails on my system without it
[20:13] <blz> What is the command-line equivalent of changing an audio output in the Sound Settings menu?
[20:14] <tozen> Nentify, use ubuntu-tweak
[20:14] <blz> !ubuntu-tweak
[20:14] <BluesKaj> wbaudio=webaudio
[20:14] <Nentify> !ubuntu-tweak
[20:15] <blz> Nentify, nothing to be gained from ubottu on this one =)  Just know that ubuntu-tweak isn't officially supported
[20:15] <Nentify> Alright
[20:15] <blz> Nentify, that said, I use it and I've had nothing but success with it
[20:15] <Nentify> Thanks for the reply, much appreciated :)
[20:15] <blz> You got it =)
[20:15] <tozen> blz, this isnt a problem
[20:15] <blz> tozen, what isn't a problem?
[20:17] <tozen> blz, ubuntu-tweak officiali supported that isnt a problem
[20:17] <blz> tozen, so?
[20:17] <tozen> *not supported
[20:17] <blz> tozen, I don't see your point =)
[20:17] <bercik1> Hi
[20:17] <Boreeas> BluesKaj: Some NVIDIA HDA controller
[20:17] <tozen> blz, nener mind ;)
[20:18] <blz> haha okay
[20:18] <bercik1> I have got some problems installing ATi driver 12.9 manually on Ubuntu 12.10. fglrxinfo displays GLX. Any ideas please?
[20:18] <Nentify> Got it working, thanks blz :)
[20:18] <blz> Nentify, np!  Good to hear!
[20:19] <OerHeks> !quantal | bercik1
[20:19] <Nentify> On to my next issue, haha. When I start up Minecraft, the screen is just black. >.<
[20:20] <Nentify> java version "1.7.0_07"
[20:20] <Nentify> I doubt this is the right place for that however
[20:20] <utopik> hi !
[20:20] <blz> is xbmcbuntu supported here?
[20:20] <utopik> What is the ubuntu / kubuntu gui installer project ?
[20:22] <blz> What is the command-line equivalent of changing an audio output in the Sound Settings menu?  I have a headless system and I'd like to set my USB speakers as the default output.  In a graphical system, I would just select them from a list of output devices in the Sound Settings menu
[20:22] <utopik> maybe try with alsamixer
[20:23] <blz> utopik, hmm ok.  I'll look that over
[20:23] <blz> although this looks more like a plain-old mixer...
[20:23] <OerHeks> blz alsamixer, and hit F6 to change audio device
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> blz  there's also #xbmc-linux
[20:24] <howdypartner> Howdy all. I set up a small lan and I have a client that can ping the server through the switch but I can't seem to get it to access the internet. Do I have to do some port forwarding on the server or ?
[20:24] <blz> MonkeyDust, yeah but it's deader than freddy mercury...
[20:24] <Frozenlock> Heya folks! I want to take an old desktop computer and make a server with it. I already have a dvd with ubuntu desktop, but should I use the ubuntu server instead? Is there a big difference?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Frozenlock  server has no GUI by default -- the dvd is a, installer, not live
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Frozenlock  and i guess LAMP is installed by default
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> and the partitions are used differently
[20:28] <Frozenlock> Hmm so if I want a GUI I should go with desktop. Is there major drawbacks I should be aware off?
[20:29] <blz> Frozenlock, you almost certainly want the desktop version
[20:29] <blz> Frozenlock, if you wanted the server install, you'd know exactly why =)
[20:29] <Frozenlock> blz: good point
[20:29] <blz> Frozenlock, And that's a good general rule for ubuntu/linux
[20:30] <unless> Hello guys!
[20:31] <unless> If I have a ssh doubt related question can I ask here?
[20:31] <utopik> what is the gui installer for ubuntu ?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> unless  i use ssh, let's hear it
[20:34] <auronandace> utopik: ubiquity
[20:35]  * guntbert needed three tries to parse MonkeyDust's statement correctly :-)
[20:36] <utopik> auronandace: Thank you !
[20:36] <griff> anyone there?
[20:37] <guntbert> griff: just about 1640 people. Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:38] <griff> well i have a Xubuntu question
[20:38] <seednode> Alright, shoot.
[20:38] <griff> but I think most everyone in Xubuntu is idle
[20:39] <masterofpoen_> hi
[20:39] <unless> MonkeyDust, I am accessing my remote server and I need to run from inside it a ssh localhost. I did generate a public key and renamed it to authorized_keys but it still asking me for password from a semite connection point of view.
[20:40] <Sidewinder> !details | griff
[20:40] <griff> Well you see.... I was given an Asus Eee, and it operates on Xubuntu
[20:40] <Sidewinder> griff, All on one line, if possible. :)
[20:40] <griff> And I was hoping to change OS's since I don't even know where to begin on Linux
[20:40] <griff> kk
[20:41] <WindBuntu> griff please state the hardware on the ee
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> unless  that's beyond me, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server or in ##networking
[20:41] <guntbert> griff: what is "a semite connection point of view"?
[20:41] <unless> MonkeyDust, ok, thank you.
[20:42] <griff> So; Asus Eee 900A, can't use Linux to save my life - even with all the internet tutorials, I have windows on a USB ready to boot, but I cannot seem to get anywhere. As far as hardware, I would not know where to begin
[20:42] <joobie> guys what is the ip route command that shows the counters against each route? so i can see the number of packets that matched the route??
[20:42] <guntbert> griff: sorry, I mistyped, was not intened for you
[20:42] <qwitwa> You only have a Master Boot Record if you already had Windows installed, right? If so, how do you create one in a virtualbox virtual hard drive?
[20:42] <guntbert> unless: what is "a semite connection point of view"?
[20:43] <auronandace> qwitwa: you don't need to create one in vbox
[20:44] <auronandace> qwitwa: the mbr is entirely seperate from the os
[20:44] <unless> guntbert, good question, probably a mispel.
[20:44] <griff> I'm assuming through the Linux command propt "Terminal"
[20:44] <tritonx> what is the channel for the upcoming version's support ?
[20:44] <BenHur> how comes that diff find so many differences after an rsync?
[20:44] <auronandace> tritonx: #ubuntu+1
[20:45] <tritonx> ty
[20:45] <gordonjcp> griff: What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:45] <griff> Change to Windows ;/
[20:45] <BenHur> :P
[20:45] <griff> and i know you guys hate hearing that
[20:45] <auronandace> griff: go to ##windows
[20:46] <griff> well okay
[20:46] <griff> thanks anyways guys
[20:46] <cukymonster> hi there people!
[20:46] <gordonjcp> griff: oh, no idea, I've never tried it
[20:46] <gordonjcp> griff: what on?
[20:46] <tritonx> everyone is sleeping in ubuntu+1 , anyone running 12.10 and having problem with mp3 and gmusicbrowser ?
[20:47] <auronandace> tritonx: don't ask here
[20:47] <unless> guntbert, I meant from a remote connection point of view
[20:47] <cukymonster> me triton
[20:48] <guntbert> unless: sorry, I wanted to try to help you but my connection is somewhat flaky today - Good luck!
[20:53] <BlueWolf> Hi, I want to download Ubuntu 12.04 but I don't know what to get Desktop CD or Alternate install CD what is the big difference?
[20:54] <tritonx> get Desktop
[20:54] <tritonx> ignore alternate
[20:54] <bekks> BlueWolf: The different installer.
[20:54] <BlueWolf> What should I get overall?
[20:54] <tritonx> only if you have problem with desktop
[20:54] <BlueWolf> What's so special about alternative?
[20:54] <tritonx> I dont even know
[20:54] <tritonx> never had to use it
[20:54] <OerHeks> !alternate
[20:55] <tritonx> ie, the same damn thing
[20:55] <tritonx> alternate might not have the livecd mode
[20:56] <BlueWolf> Well I have 10.04 and I don't know weather it's Desktop or Alternate?
[20:56] <TJ-> BlueWolf: You should be good with the desktop liveISO - it has a dual benefit. Later, you can reuse the ISO image written to a USB stick as a bootable live environment you can plug into any USB-bootable PC
[20:56] <Rizon> digame
[20:57] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Just the person I needed to talk too, I'm thinking of getting 12.04 like you suggested now I just need to figure out which is best Desktop or Alternate.
[20:58] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Desktop - for the reasons I outlined above :)
[20:59] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok, just wanted to make sure because downloading something here with my internet is best to be sure ;-)
[20:59] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: can you think of a good reason why you'd want alternate?
[20:59] <WeThePeople> once i have chroot into 10.04, what commands will come after chroot /mnt ??
[20:59] <WeThePeople> to install grub
[21:00] <BlueWolf> gordonjcp: Well to be honest I don't know the difference and I don't even know what I am using for my 10.04
[21:00] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: then you want desktop ;-)
[21:00] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I understand... 36kbs wasn't it?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: grub-install /dev/sda; sudo update-grub
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: assuming sda is the ubuntu drive
[21:01] <TJ-> BlueWolf: The live or alternative installers are the only difference - the final installed system is identical
[21:01] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Yip, I could get the 2Mbps unlimited but that will cost $200. Ok got it
[21:01] <TJ-> BlueWolf Desktop/Live installer is all graphical. Alternate is text-only, so will work on some video cards that are problematic for the GUI
[21:02] <BlueWolf> TJ-: How can I see what my ubuntu is?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: don't forget minimal :)
[21:02] <WeThePeople> bluewolf, lsb_release
[21:03] <BlueWolf> WeThePeople: No LSB modules are available? what does this mean?
[21:04] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I was helping BlueWolf earlier - he is on a very slow network connection in Zimbabwe, so he is getting the ISO via a torrent, so he can install offline
[21:04] <WeThePeople> bluewolf, lsb_release -a
[21:04] <tryy3> is it normal that ubuntu desktop is susing 1gb/16gb with out having any extra stuff running?
[21:04] <TJ-> BlueWolf: It's 10.04 Lucid amd64
[21:05] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:05] <BlueWolf> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[21:05] <BlueWolf> Release:	10.04
[21:05] <BlueWolf> Codename:	lucid
[21:05]  * TJ- is telepathic :p
[21:05] <BlueWolf> TJ-: How do you know? :D
[21:05] <WeThePeople> women
[21:06] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I asked you for "uname -a" earlier, remember? that gave me enough to know
[21:06] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Sneaky! :D Wish I was that cleaver.
[21:06] <shivam> i want to install ubuntu with win7 already on it what should i do??
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: makes sense
[21:06] <shivam> is there a problem that could occur
[21:07] <dr_willis> shivam:  resize the windows install. making a unallocated space for linux to partion/install to.
[21:07] <dr_willis> shivam:  or get a 2nd hard drive. :)
[21:07] <BlueWolf> TJ-: So is mine Desktop or Alternative?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> shivam: use Win7 to resize the NTFS partition (after running a full backup)
[21:07] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Desktop and Alternate are just different versions of the installer - they install the exact same system
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> shivam: then install Ubuntu to the new freed space (leave it unpartitioned)
[21:07] <TJ-> BlueWolf Desktop/Live installer is all graphical. Alternate is text-only, so will work on some video cards that are problematic for the GUI
[21:07] <shivam> it not alowing to shrink the primary partition for making space for ubuntu
[21:07] <nicola> ciaoo
[21:08] <tritonx> easier and safest way is to get another drive, they are so cheap theses days
[21:08] <shivam> yup..
[21:08] <dr_willis> shivam:  'it' being what exactly?
[21:08] <shivam> it means the windows
[21:08] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok got it. :-)
[21:09] <shivam> actually i ahve a lenovo Z580 and may be there is soe restiction to do it
[21:09] <dr_willis> shivam:  its possible your windows install has 4 primary partions and  that can be an issue. I suggest getting a gparted live cd. and see ing exactly how your HD is organized. or use gparted from a ubuntu live cd
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> shivam: you could use wubi, its an ok try-before-you-buy
[21:09] <shivam> thanks dr_wills
[21:09] <dr_willis> shivam:  you can install/run ubuntu from a decent sized usb flash drive also.
[21:10] <shivam> wubi is good!
[21:10] <BlueWolf> TJ-: What's your opinion of 12.04 compared to 10.04? Because I don't like Unity.
[21:10] <dr_willis> wubi is not 'good' it can be very much a pain.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> shivam: its ok as a tester, as a long term solution it stinks
[21:10] <shivam> how???
[21:11] <tryy3> is it normal that ubuntu desktop is susing 1gb/16gb with out having any extra stuff running?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> shivam: how what?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: are you sure its using 1Gb?
[21:11] <dr_willis> wubi is very fragile, prone to breaking, and can be impossible to upgrade properly. if the windows install dies or breaks.. so can your linux install.
[21:11] <ardchoille> BlueWolf: you can install gnome-shell and use the gnome classic fallback on 12.04
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: can you pastebin the output of: free -m
[21:11] <tryy3> ActionParsnip last time i checked ye
[21:11] <dr_willis> shivam:  no need to PM me.
[21:11] <TJ-> BlueWolf:  I stayed on 10.04 for that reason until 12.04 was released as an LTS. It took me about a month to overcome my dislike of Unity dumbing-down everything. I still get frustrated but I'm living with it for now
[21:12] <tryy3> k hold on, though iam running a mc server now so it might be more then 1gb now but...
[21:12] <dr_willis> shivam:  i would reccomend using Virtualbox over using WUBI.
[21:12] <G3n3r0> shivam: Wubi is slower and more vulnerable to hard resets.
[21:12] <dr_willis> shivam:  or just install to a decent sized usb flash drive. 16gb+ is plenty.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  TJ- I use fallback/classic , it's very similar to gnome2
[21:13] <shivam> yup.. i will do that a 16gb would do i think
[21:13] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: I like the look of Unity, but I don't like how it has removed functionality
[21:13] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Well I tried 11.04 once and it was so buggy. Is there any other good linux out there besides mint?
[21:13] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: But I can't support people if I don't use it extensively myself
[21:13] <tryy3> ActionParsnip http://pastebay.net/1149116
[21:13] <bekks> BlueWolf: Ubuntu. Currently, we're at 12.04
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  "good" depends on what you like
[21:14] <tryy3> ActionParsnip its using double ram when mc server is running :S
[21:14] <WindBuntu> 12.04 really works nice
[21:14] <Cyberspaceloa> BlueWolf: there's tons of great distros out there by all accounts
[21:14] <MaTachi> I can do everything I want from a desktop in Unity, so I think it fits me perfectly
[21:14] <TJ-> BlueWolf: That's a question that everyone will have a different answer for. Best thing is, try them and see
[21:14] <Cyberspaceloa> BlueWolf: and as MonkeyDust points out, it really does depend on what you specifically want
[21:14] <shivam> why should one move from windows to ubuntu???
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: yeah, using 2Gb RAM
[21:14] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Something Like Ubuntu?
[21:14] <achandra> drussell, ping
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> shivam: if they want to try something new
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> shivam: if ubuntu does what you need
[21:15] <tryy3> ActionParsnip and i allcolated 2gb for the server but i belive it only using like 500mb-1gb ram
[21:15] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ek lots of downloading for trying :D
[21:15] <WindBuntu> i tired them all and ubutu is the best by far, but the k3b disk burner works better than brasero.
[21:15] <TJ-> My issue with Unity is it is such a pain when you're using multiple HD screens with lots of applications running simultaneously in different parts of the viewport, and keep having to chase to the top to use menus... Or the wrong menu is there because a different application has the focus so you have to click on the one you're looking at
[21:15] <ardchoille> shivam: central package repository, Linux is more stable as well as more secure. Linux is free to download, install on multiple machines and share with others. If you don't like something you can grab the source code and change it.
[21:15] <shivam> i have heard that computer geeks use linux
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> shivam  why does one guy drive this car and guy another car?
[21:16] <TJ-> BlueWolf: Yeah :) You'll have to find a local outlet of Linux distro CDs!
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> shivam  why does one guy drive this car and that guy another car?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: run:  top -n 1 | less    see what is using the resources
[21:16] <TJ-> shivam: You calling me a geek? :p
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> to geek or not to geek
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> shivam: its not, its user friendly. Its just different
[21:16] <BlueWolf> TJ-: There are none here :)
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> shivam: the ignorant say its for geeks
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> shivam  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[21:17] <ardchoille> BlueWolf: Distrowatch indexes tons of linux distros so you can read about them to get an idea of what they provide
[21:17] <shivam> yup may be u r correct but i would like u to clarify it!!
[21:17] <shivam> ttj
[21:17] <TJ-> BlueWolf: I still don't see what's so pejorative about the word 'geek' - I quite like it!
[21:17] <ardchoille> TJ-: same
[21:17] <TJ-> shivam: :p
[21:17] <BlueWolf> shivam: Take note of your ignorance. :)
[21:17] <morbo3000> i have a problem with flash on my ubuntu computer. i just did a clean install of 12. my son is using it for online school which requires flash. it doesn't work in either chromium or firefox. i've done all the terminal gymnastics i found online and can't make it work. including flash-fix or whatever it is called. when it goes to a page that needs flash, it just shows white where it should be. not the missing plug puzzle piece. or black.
[21:17] <morbo3000> just blank. any ideas what's going on and how to fix?
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> shivam  and here are some nice case studies http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/business.html
[21:18] <shivam> i dnt think geek is pejorative
[21:18] <shivam> so please dont misinterpret
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> shivam: my girlfriends mum who works in Asda (walmart to americans) and she uses Unity and has no issues
[21:18] <BlueWolf> TJ-: I agree, Geek sounds good
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> shivam: why not try it, rather than asking.....
[21:18] <TJ-> I enjoy Linux primarily because - unlike Windows and OSX - when something goes wrong I can open the hood, take it all apart, look at the blueprints and constructions diagrams, replace parts with ones I've made myself, and put it all back together again without someone tutting at me or sucking their breathe through their teeth!
[21:18] <ardchoille> "geek" is kind of an honor to acquire, IMHO
[21:19] <tryy3> ActionParsnip http://pastebay.net/1149117
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> "geek my nerd"
[21:19] <WindBuntu> morbo3000, install flash from the ubuntu software center
[21:19] <shivam> Tj agreed!
[21:19] <ardchoille> TJ-: if Linux ran the airlines..
[21:19] <Nick__> I'm having trouble with the GUI in the Ubuntu Desktop 64 bit installer
[21:19] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ya I hated Windows, the only reason I have it is to play my games
[21:20] <TJ-> I used to run companies that specialised in remote and on-site Windows support. It was awful sometimes because as programmers we could deduce where bugs were, but we couldn't fix them, and we couldn't force MS to fix them or persuade them to set them as higher priority.
[21:20] <morbo3000> windbuntu: i've done that. installed. uninstalled. logged out. installed the beta.
[21:20] <tritonx> cant wait for linux steam !!!!
[21:20] <tritonx> no more windows
[21:20] <WindBuntu> morbo3000, are you using ubuntu 12.04?
[21:20] <gordonjcp> shivam: regarding the technicality of users, my mum was able to install 11.04 on her laptop, and she's so non-technical I've had to do a 480-mile round trip to reset a circuit breaker at her house
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: top -n 1 | less
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: not sure where '&#9474;' came from
[21:20] <TJ-> gordonjcp: You just need a very long piece of string :p
[21:20] <BlueWolf> tritonx: linux steam?
[21:20] <shivam> i agree
[21:21] <TJ-> gordonjcp: And a robot to pull it... to fulfil the geek in you
[21:21] <tritonx> we will have a steam client soon , = games , lots of games,
[21:21] <gordonjcp> TJ-: heh
[21:21] <tryy3> ActionParsnip i got a swedish keyboard so i tryed do the  | with alt command didn't work that well :P
[21:21] <morbo3000> windbuntu:i'm away from the box at the moment. but i downloaded what was available on the website. downloaded the disc image. burned it and installed.
[21:22] <BlueWolf> TJ-: So have you earned the word Geek, I think so the same way I have earned the word a pain! :)
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/steam-for-linux-to-arrive-in-a-few-days
[21:22] <WindBuntu> did youinstall ubuntu restricted extras morbo3000
[21:22] <morbo3000> so i assume it is 12.04. i also ran all the updates.
[21:22] <morbo3000> windbuntu: yes.
[21:22] <WindBuntu> are you on a desktop or laptop
[21:22] <tryy3> ActionParsnip http://pastebay.net/1149119 there you go...
[21:22] <Nick__> When I try to install Ubuntu 64 bit Desktop, I get the the first menu okay, but using any of the options just brings up a screen with lines.  I tried it on two different PC's.  Can anyone help me out?
[21:22] <ardchoille> morbo3000: is the computer running noscript in the web browser?
[21:23] <morbo3000> ardchoile: you've stumped me. i'm a novice. what's that.
[21:23] <BlueWolf> 	
[21:23] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Sweet
[21:23] <unsobill> hey guys how would i troubleshoot random freezeups on my 12.4 ?
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> morbo3000  it's a browse plugin
[21:23] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Once again I am obliged to thank you for you help ;-)
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> browser*
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: scroll down and you can see the mem use and cpu use of each process
[21:24] <TJ-> Nick__: Did you do a checksum of the CD after burning it and compare with the web-site checksums to ensure the image isn't corrupted?
[21:24] <WindBuntu> under DETAILS check the version of ubuntu you are running morbo3000
[21:24] <ardchoille> morbo3000: noscript is an extension for firefox that disallows javascript until the user allows them, this will stop flash video from playing. check and see if noscript is installed in the web browser
[21:24] <Smrtz> Hey, I'm trying to connect to a WPA2 Enterprise network with tunneled TLS, but it's not working, it just asks for my password, then tries for about 30 seconds, and asks again, but I know the info is right, can someone help me?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: I'll believe it when I see it
[21:24] <Smrtz> please*
[21:24] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Agreed!
[21:24] <TJ-> shivam: We like to keep support in the channel so others can give input from their own knowledge, unless it gets very intense and complicated
[21:24] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Thanks for your help.
[21:25] <morbo3000> thanks ardchoille. i'll try that.
[21:25] <tryy3> ActionParsnip scroll down where?
[21:25] <ardchoille> yw :)
[21:25] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:25] <Nick__> TJ- I didn't but I burned the image twice.  Attempting to use the check media button in the installer also brings up the same lines.
[21:25] <morbo3000> windbuntu. i'm away from the linux box. so i can't check that. i was fishing for a few things to try when i got home.
[21:25] <Socket-> Anyone here know of a server/channel thats into modding?  I am trying to build my first gaming machine and I wanted some advice on the parts I picked out
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: in the pager, thats why we pipe to less
[21:26] <unsobill> Hey guysz how would i troubleshoot FREEZUP on my system ?
[21:26] <tritonx> Socket , start with a budget and compromise from there
[21:26] <TJ-> Nick__: That sounds like pretty good evidence of corruption to me
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Socket-: try ##hardware
[21:26] <tryy3> ActionParsnip on the pastebay?
[21:26] <unsobill> my ubuntu freezing up randomly like every day :
[21:26] <ardchoille> morbo3000: if noscript is installed, come back and I'll help you with it if needed
[21:26] <unsobill> :(
[21:26] <Nick__> cool, will check that out, thanks TJ
[21:26] <Socket-> thank ill check that channel out
[21:26] <morbo3000> thanks ardchoille
[21:26] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok well I am going to download 12.04 then I will get back to about my annoying computer that might find a shelf in the scrap yard.
[21:26] <morbo3000> logging out.
[21:26] <Smrtz> Does anyone want to help with my wireless issues?
[21:27] <FireStorms> Hi I've got a question about ubuntu apacghe web server
[21:27] <BlueWolf> Smrtz: Type your question and someone will help you if they know.
[21:27] <Smrtz> BlueWolf.
[21:27] <xibalba> FireStorms, ask away
[21:27] <Smrtz> BlueWolf, I did.
[21:27] <xibalba> Smrtz, again
[21:28] <Smrtz> xibalba: ok...
[21:28]  * xibalba slaps Smrtz with a large salmon
[21:28] <Smrtz> Hey, I'm trying to connect to a WPA2 Enterprise network with tunneled TLS, but it's not working, it just asks for my password, then tries for about 30 seconds, and asks again, but I know the info is right, can someone help me please?
[21:28] <xibalba> oh pff, i dont do wireless on linux
[21:28] <xibalba> i only use linux for servers
[21:28] <BlueWolf> Smrtz: Good, just wait patiently for someone to help :D
[21:28] <Smrtz> ahh, no worries, thanks anyway xibalba
[21:28] <xibalba> linux on the desktop isn't ready for prime time
[21:29] <dr_willis> xibalba:  i often think the same thing about windows...
[21:29] <xibalba> osx > win7 > linux > beos > win3.1
[21:29] <[deXter]> It will never be, with people like you around.
[21:29] <TJ-> unsobill: First thing is to run the "memtest" that is in the boot menu (hold Shift down as the PC starts to get that menu). If that seems OK, then look at the log files (/var/log/kern.log, /var/log.syslog, /var/log/Xorg.0.log) for clues around the time the freezes occur. Also, install some temperature monitoring utils such as "lm-sensors" and "indicator-sensors" (from the alexmurray/indicator PPA)
[21:29] <Cyberspaceloa> smrtz: plenty of people successfully and productively use linux on the desktop
[21:29] <xibalba> dr_willis, well you sir are silly
[21:29] <WindBuntu> how can no script be installed if the computer operator doesnt install it...
[21:29] <FireStorms> I'm wondering if it would be very difficult for a person with no experience with running an ubuntu apache web server except on localhost. I'm a PHP, MySQL, Javascript develop so I've got a lot on my plate already but my Web hosting company are unreliable so I'd prefer to run my own server. Is it very time consuming, require lots of maintenance?
[21:29] <TJ-> Smrtz: Review "/var/log/syslog" for clues.
[21:29] <dr_willis> xibalba:  i will rember that next time i have to spend hours reinstalling windows for a friend.
[21:29] <Smrtz> I don't agree with that at all, I came from arch, and loved using exclusively linux, xibalba
[21:29] <xibalba> FireStorms, not at all run 'tasksel' and select lamp
[21:30] <Smrtz> Cyberspaceloa: I'm on the same side
[21:30] <Smrtz> TJ-: ok, thans
[21:30] <xibalba> dr_willis, tell your friend stop loking at so much pr0n
[21:30] <TJ-> FireStorms: If you don't go installing lots of obscure untrustworthy stuff, all you need do is ensure updates.
[21:30] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Ok I'm going to go, thanks for your help once more :D
[21:30] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: be really, really careful with tasksel
[21:30] <dr_willis> FireStorms:  someone in here the other day had major issues with tasksel.
[21:30] <gordonjcp> xibalba: Linux has been on the desktop for over 15 years
[21:30] <xibalba> Smrtz, well of course duh you're in a linux channel. i'm talking mainstream, go give ubuntu to your grandma and see how she fairs
[21:30] <FireStorms> Thank you
[21:30] <TJ-> BlueWolf: You're welcome, good luck with it. Hope it solves the "alx" driver issue too
[21:30] <Cyberspaceloa> FireStorms: there have been plenty of reports of unintended consequences, make sure you research really hard
[21:30] <tryy3> ActionParsnip on the pastebay?
[21:31] <xibalba> gordonjcp, doesn't make it good :) so what i've used an openbsd desktop 10+ years ago, doesn't make it good :)
[21:31] <FireStorms> another question, can I runa  web server reliable of an sd card, would it cope under a lot of traffic too?
[21:31] <BlueWolf> TJ-: Thanks I hope so :D Cheers
[21:31] <gordonjcp> xibalba: Windows is too hard for non-technical users
[21:31] <xibalba> lolz
[21:31] <[deXter]> xibalba, Funny you should say that, because I did exactly that and she loves it. Gave it to my 60+ dad who's new to computers, I taught him how to use it in a week, no issues
[21:31] <gordonjcp> xibalba: why should my 70+ year old relatives have to do MCSE just to get on the Internet?
[21:31] <Smrtz> TJ-: I'm not seeing anything about wireless here...
[21:31] <TJ-> Did you see today even Paul Allen can't 'get' Windows 8? Confused him somewhat... Nice to know us Unity adopters aren't alone :p
[21:32] <xibalba> lol that's the silliest hogwash i've ever heard
[21:32] <gordonjcp> [deXter]: My mum bought a laptop with XP on it second-hand, stuck with XP for a week, and then wiped it and stuck 11.04 on instead
[21:32] <TJ-> Smrtz: which ubuntu release are you using? It could be in another log-file in /var/log/
[21:32] <[deXter]> xibalba, I can go on and on about how many newbies I've set up with linux and they all love it, no issues with updates, no viruses, no slowing down over time.. it just works
[21:32] <xibalba> i find windows significantly easier to use than ubuntu
[21:32] <ardchoille> TJ-: saw that today, made me chuckle
[21:32] <gordonjcp> xibalba: maybe you're more used to Windows
[21:32] <xibalba> [deXter], same could be said of my win7 desktops
[21:32] <xibalba> gordonjcp, perhaps
[21:32] <[deXter]> xibalba, that's because you were brought up with windows
[21:32] <gordonjcp> xibalba: this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:32] <dr_willis> xibalba:  then you sir are silly.. and off topic..
[21:32] <Smrtz> TJ-: the latest, just ran an update and upgrade before asking here.
[21:32] <gordonjcp> xibalba: I find Windows extremely difficult to use
[21:33] <[deXter]> xibalba, If you were brought up with linux, or if linux was the first thing you learnt instead of windows, you'd certainly find linux easier
[21:33] <TJ-> As I told my BF earlier: "Windows is okay if you can afford to leave your PC to defrag its NTFS file-system for 24 hours every month!
[21:33] <xibalba> mind you guys i always have a shell up, but i prefer it for a desktop
[21:33] <xibalba> [deXter], openbsd was the first thing i learned
[21:33] <[deXter]> but were you brought up using *nix?
[21:33] <xibalba> at age 12, i still think windows is easier
[21:33] <gordonjcp> xibalba: I'm a newb, I've only been using it for a few months
[21:33] <gordonjcp> xibalba: Windows that is
[21:34] <ardchoille> I've been using Ubuntu since 2005 and I'm finding the need for a terminal less and less with each Ubuntu release. 12.04 is amazing
[21:34] <TJ-> Smrtz: OK, so 12.04 ... then the network logging should go to "/var/log/syslog". Are you using NetworkManager or some other tool?
[21:34] <gordonjcp> ardchoille: depends what you're doing; a terminal is just a tool like any other
[21:34] <ardchoille> gordonjcp: true that
[21:34] <G3n3r0> xibalba: What part of Linux do you find difficult to use? The UI? The command line?
[21:35] <Smrtz> TJ-: nope, can you give me a keyword to grep for?
[21:35] <dr_willis> Time to move it to OT channel i think guys...
[21:35] <xibalba> definetly not the command line G3n3r0
[21:35] <xibalba> i've been adminign linux boxes for 10+ years
[21:35] <kayve> is this the right place to get help keeping my Ubuntu laptop reliably connected to a Sprint HotSpot?
[21:35] <warren-hill> xibalba: That's probably  because you are used to windows.  I recently took 20 laptops into an OAP home.  5 windows, the rest Ubuntu.  These people had never seen a computer before.  Within 10 minutes all happily using internet. Nobody cared if they had Ubuntu or Windows
[21:35] <Smrtz> dr_willis: thanks.
[21:35] <xibalba> i find the UI to operate more slowly.
[21:35] <gordonjcp> warren-hill: that's because the Mozilla Firefox icon is the same on all platforms
[21:36] <xibalba> same desktop at home, did an install with 12.04 vs win7, found the UI/gnome/trinity or whatever its called now to operate more slowly. Windows UI operated faster
[21:36] <xibalba> could have been GFX driver supprot
[21:36] <TJ-> Smrtz: I can't, sorry. I'd be looking for wpa_supplicant though, and mentions of AES and I guess "wlan0" if thats the interface name
[21:36] <TJ-> xibalba: That does sound like lack of 3D accelerated drivers.
[21:36] <gordonjcp> !ot
[21:37] <emeka88> Pls I need help joining a suitable open source project. Im intermediate Java programmer
[21:37] <Smrtz> TJ, yeah, wlan0 worked. sec, I'll wget paste it.
[21:37] <tryy3> ActionParsnip ?
[21:37] <gordonjcp> emeka88: then find a project you're interested in, and start contributing
[21:37] <muelli> emeka88:  http://open-advice.org/
[21:38] <Smrtz> brb, gotta take the laptop to a lan port, TH
[21:38] <muelli> emeka88: bonus points if you want to join a Free Software project.
[21:38] <Marzata> Xfce or Lxde?
[21:38] <TJ-> Smrtz: Is it WPA2 EAP-TLS ?
[21:38] <thufir_> is this sources.list "wrong"?  https://gist.github.com/3830023   I don't seem to have common packages available, like gedit, to install.
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[21:39] <Smrtz> wait, is wgetpaste not in the default repositorys?
[21:39] <ardchoille> thufir_: yeah, you have too much commented out
[21:40] <emeka88> what I need is a suitable project to join. i have intermediate java skill
[21:40] <thufir_> ardchoille: ok, so just remove the # fromt he first few lines?  do I need to reboot?
[21:40] <thufir_> emeka88: #java
[21:40] <thufir_> emeka88: you can help me with my java project :)
[21:41] <tryy3> where did ActionParsnip go?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: no, the less command allows you to page lots of text so it doesn't fly off the page
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: unless yu can read stupidly fast
[21:41] <emeka88> thufir. lets talk about your java project
[21:41] <TJ-> Smrtz: How about "pastebinit" ?
[21:41] <tryy3> ActionParsnip oohh...
[21:41] <thufir_> emeka88: #java, or private..?
[21:41] <tryy3> ActionParsnip how do i change page? :D
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: scroll the text up and down using the cursors on the keyboard and you can see what is happening
[21:41] <axisys> how to feed the answer to automate the install of libpam-ldap ?
[21:42] <tryy3> ActionParsnip ok gonna test
[21:42] <emeka88> thufir: private
[21:42] <Smrtz> TJ-: thanks.
[21:42] <dr_willis> tryy3:  see 'man less' for info on less. ;)
[21:42] <ardchoille> thufir_: here's mine, installed it two days ago and haven't touched that file: http://pastebin.com/SReV5DNa
[21:42] <thufir_> ardchoille: thanks very much
[21:42] <ardchoille> thufir_: no need to reboot, just need to: sudo apt0get update
[21:42] <thufir_> do I need to reboot after fixing sources.list?
[21:42] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get update
[21:42] <ardchoille> thufir_: no need to reboot, just need to: sudo apt-get update
[21:43] <Smrtz> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/1258952
[21:43] <fissionflame> im trying to make a script similar to adduser but for a virtual user creation, can anyone forward me to maby a tutorial to do so?
[21:43] <tryy3> dr_willis i will later :D
[21:43] <bobo37773> fissionflame: What do you mean by "virtual user creation"?
[21:43] <tryy3> ActionParsnip what am i looking for?
[21:44] <TJ-> Smrtz: Before we go too far. Have you had that Wifi device working on a different type of connection? WPA2-TKIP for example?
[21:44] <siamese> hey
[21:44] <john_doe> Hey. I just upgraded some pack
[21:44] <john_doe> sorry, more to come...
[21:45] <kayve> lsmod and lspci -nnk fail to see the Sierra device
[21:45] <kayve> lsmod and lspci -nnk fail to see the Sierra device
[21:45] <TJ-> Smrtz: because that log extract suggests to me a driver/hardware issue that some chipsets have and my next question is going to be, what is the Wifi device? "lspci -nn | egrep '(net|wire)'   "
[21:45] <Smrtz> TJ, actually, I just looked at the time, I'm going to have to leave for class in about 15, so we won't be able to get to the bottem of this, and not WPA2, but WPA and WEP
[21:45] <Smrtz> hey siamese
[21:46] <fissionflame> i am using vsftpd on a server version of ubuntu 12.04, and all the users are chrooted into /srv/ftp/$USER, i wanna make a file where i just type something like ftpduseradd -u username -p password and it auto does the config for me, i dont know how to set it up so i can just type that in the command line though
[21:46] <TJ-> Smrtz: OK... let me know the device with that 'lspci' command and I can do some research
[21:46] <Smrtz> Thanks anyway TJ-, and I'll be back after class, so if your here, we'll keep working
[21:47] <Smrtz> TJ-: RTL8188CE
[21:47] <john_doe> Hey. I just upgraded some packages including libc. I got warnings like "cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab". I googled on it, and now I'm afraid to reboot if it can't mount my encrypted home partition. Should I worry?
[21:47] <Smrtz> Thanks again, TJ-, later
[21:47] <bobo37773> fissionflame: Ah. So you want it to be two arguments one for user and one for password?
[21:47] <TJ-> Smrtz: I need the device ID vendor:product
[21:48] <john_doe> I could provide /etc/fstab with the uuid of the parition and then re-run something. Could that help?
[21:49] <fissionflame> yea, i wanna set it up to read those arguements but i dont even know how to setup my own commands
[21:50] <nogal> Hello, I'm having an issue with installing an update to one of the purchases I made from the software center. I was wondering if somebody could help me out.
[21:50] <bobo37773> fissionflame: Lets see what you gto so far
[21:50] <nogal> I went to command line as opposed to the gui for the update and I have the output, I'm going to paste it in a pastebin
[21:51] <TJ-> fissionflame: "htpasswd /etc/xsftpd/passwd  -p <username> <password>"
[21:51] <TJ-> fissionflame: oops, typo... "htpasswd /etc/vsftpd/passwd  -p <username> <password>"
[21:51] <akls> is there any way to draw an image from bash directly to the screen?
[21:51] <nogal> here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258964/
[21:52] <TJ-> fissionflame: And I suspect you'll need "auth    required pam_pwdfile.so pwdfile /etc/vsftpd/passwd" in /etc/pam.d/vsftpd
[21:52] <fissionflame> i already have vsftpd setup
[21:52] <fissionflame> i can make the users
[21:52] <unsobill> my ubuntu keep freezing up
[21:52] <fissionflame> but i need it more automated
[21:52] <unsobill> so fuking pissed off
[21:53] <ardchoille> akls: ASCII art
[21:53] <TJ-> fissionflame: "htpasswd /etc/xsftpd/passwd  -p <username> <password>"  in your script then
[21:53] <TJ-> fissionflame: grrr, typo again!
[21:53] <nogal> !language unsobill
[21:53] <akls> ardchoille, no-no, not ASCII art. I mean directly to the X screen
[21:53] <fissionflame> i need it so i can type something like vsftpdadduser -u username -p password and it will auto add them to my user file plus create the directory
[21:53] <akls> ardchoille, not the terminal
[21:53] <TJ-> fissionflame: wrap that command I showed you in a shell script
[21:53] <nogal> Anyone have a moment to help with an issue with apt-get?
[21:53] <ardchoille> akls: oh, my bad.
[21:54] <akls> nogal, just ask
[21:54] <juniour> hi
[21:54] <juniour> hi
[21:54] <juniour> guys
[21:54] <akls> !ask
[21:54] <nogal> I'm trying to install a purchase from the software center, it gives me an error. I ran it through the CLI and got this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1258964/
[21:54] <juniour> hey guys i want to change login screen drum sound plz help me
[21:55] <fissionflame> yea idk how to make a shell script....
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: high ram usage...
[21:56] <nogal> fissionflame: just write it as a text file and save as .sh
[21:56] <vicatcu> i hear a periodic "clicking" from my laptop speakers (even if I mute them) in Ubuntu 12.04 whenever Google Chrome is open
[21:56] <vicatcu> can anyone explain that?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> fissionflame: can you run commands in a terminal?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> vicatcu: what make and model laprop?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> vicatcu: maybe that the system is power saving by tuning them off and on
[21:57] <TJ-> nogal: Looks like you have a previous package installed from a different source, maybe? "torchlight-bin" .. you maybe need to remove it first "sudo apt-get remove torchlight-bin"
[21:57] <ardchoille> he could do "sudo apt-get autoremove" and then try his command again
[21:57] <MaTachi> nogal, I had the same error earlier today. Uninstall it and reinstall it solved it for me. sudo apt-get purge torchlight, sudo apt-get autoremove and finally sudo apt-get install torchlight
[21:57] <akls> is there any way to draw an image from bash directly to the screen?
[21:58] <juniour> hey guys i want to change login screen drum sound plz help me
[21:58] <juniour> hey guys i want to change login screen drum sound plz help me
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> akls: how do you mean draw and image
[21:58] <TJ-> vicatcu: possibly it is opening the sound channels and closing them again without playing anything. Any particular web pages you have open in tabs when that happens?
[21:58] <vicatcu> ActionParsnip: http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G73Jh/#specifications
[21:58] <nogal> you guys are awesome, running everything now.
[21:58] <vicatcu> TJ-: doesn't matter what webpage
[21:58] <akls> ActionParsnip, well, lets say display it on top of any windows
[21:58] <nogal> Probably take a while to DL it again, I'll wait around and help out in the meanwhile
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> juniour: change the sound scheme theme and it changes too as far as I know
[21:59] <akls> ActionParsnip, could be python too
[21:59] <juniour> ActionParsnip how to do that tell me
[21:59] <akls> ActionParsnip, just what is the easiest way to do it
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> akls: you can run:  eog /path/to/image.jpg   and it will open the image viewer with the image you specify
[21:59] <ardchoille> akls: in order to do that you need an app that acts as a "viewer" such as eye of gnome to display the image. the image needs a window
[21:59] <dr_willis> dosent gnome have some 'start/open' file command that uses the mome types..
[21:59] <juniour> ActionParsnip how to do that tell me
[21:59] <dr_willis> mime types.
[22:00] <juniour> hey guys i want to change login screen drum sound plz help me
[22:00] <ardchoille> dr_willis: xdg or some such
[22:00] <akls> ActionParsnip, ardchoille well, I want it to be without a window. There must be a way to simply change the pixels of the display
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> juniour: echo " gnome to display the image. the
[22:00] <ActionParsnip>                     image needs a window
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> juniour: wait, puttty is being annoying
[22:00] <nogal> juniour: have you checked here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139247/changing-login-sound-in-12-04
[22:01] <dr_willis> akls:  sounds like you are doing weird things... You dontjust 'poke' pixles on the display like the old days. ;)
[22:01] <dr_willis>  xdg-open G8bo5.jpg
[22:01] <dr_willis> there we go. ;)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> juniour: echo "options snd-hda-intel power_save_controller=N" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[22:01] <ardchoille> akls: I really don't see how you could do that without a window of some type "paiting" the image. unless you wrote an app that paints the image on a transparent window
[22:01] <ardchoille> dr_willis: :)
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> juniour: reboot to test
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: imagemagic perhaps
[22:02] <juniour> nogal there the step for conversion only
[22:03] <akls> ardchoille, well, that's what I'm asking for. now is there anything to display an image in a transparent window for me? :)
[22:03] <tryy3> ActionParsnip wont like htop work?
[22:03] <tryy3> ActionParsnip or something more understandable program?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: try it
[22:04] <ardchoille> akls: not unless you can find an app that was specifically designed to do that, which I would doubt. most apps that have transparent windows are written to display specific data rather than arbitrary data
[22:04] <ardchoille> akls: sounds like a nice app project for you :)
[22:04] <akls> ardchoille, ok, lets say I'll write it myself in python or anything else, would it be hard to make all keyboards/mouse events to go through it?
[22:05] <dr_willis> akls:  theres dozens of image viewers in the repos.. some may have 'fullscreen' options
[22:05] <Dazzzz> Can I ask a question?
[22:05] <akls> !ask
[22:05] <dr_willis> akls:  what do you mean by go through it?  i think you need to give details of what you are trying to acomplish
[22:05] <MaTachi> Dazzzz, just ask
[22:05] <ardchoille> akls: it's not hard to "grab" inout devices, no
[22:05] <akls> dr_willis, i want an image to be visible on the screen all the time
[22:06] <ardchoille> the gtk sudo prompt does that, or it used to
[22:06] <tryy3> ActionParsnip it was the server that used 1gb ram, otherwise its just tons of tasks using like 0.0-0.8% usage
[22:06] <Dazzzz> For some reason, my mouse will freeze up using the latest version, it takes a reboot to clear it up, anyone experience this?
[22:06] <akls> dr_willis, and it must be possible to click through it, for example if there's a button underneath and I click the image it must click the button
[22:06]  * ardchoille thinks akls wants an app for a prank of some type
[22:07] <akls> ardchoille, nope, I just want some information to be constantly visible
[22:07] <ardchoille> akls: info such as system info?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Dazzzz: does the system have a make and model? What mouse are you using?
[22:08] <ardchoille> I forget the name but there is a popular app that does that
[22:08] <akls> ardchoille, for example
[22:08] <MaTachi> Dazzzz, try to unplug other USB devices and such and see if it starts to work. Sometimes when I start my computer do my keyboard and mouse not work until I unplug my phone
[22:08] <MaTachi> :P
[22:09] <harris> how do i get a interactive calender that i can cross of past days and add notes to days as my ubuntu background
[22:09] <Dazzzz> it is a pc i built a few years ago, Asus motherboard, Pentieum 4 processor, I used a USB mouse then tries a cordless, both do the same. This is the same mouse I have always used with this pc and version
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> harris: http://askubuntu.com/questions/77065/use-a-calendar-as-desktop-wallpaper
[22:09] <Dazzzz> the only USB devices plugged in are the mouse and keyboard
[22:10] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: good find!
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Dazzzz: have you tried a different USB port?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=calendar+interactive+wallpaper+ubuntu   easy stuff when you ask a duck
[22:10] <ardchoille> :)
[22:10] <Dazzzz> yes, I have tried all of them, same thing
[22:11] <tryy3> ActionParsnip it was the server that used 1gb ram, otherwise its just tons of tasks using like 0.0-0.8% usage
[22:11] <Dazzzz> BRB
[22:12] <WeThePeople> what is the command to install disk utility and software center
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: sudo apt-get install software-center
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: (note USA spelling)
[22:13] <seednode> I prefer Gparted to Disk Utility.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> i prefer df
[22:14] <diverdude> it says: If you really know what you are doing, you can still update rubygems by setting the REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM environment variable, but please remember that this is completely unsupported by Debian. so i do export REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM=1 and run sudo gem update --system 1.4.2 again but the same error occurs. what am I missing?
[22:14] <seednode> Well, I use fdisk most of the time.
[22:16] <TJ-> diverdude: "sudo REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM=1  gem update --system 1.4.2"
[22:16] <diverdude> TJ-: sudo REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM=1  gem update --system 1.4.2: command not found
[22:17] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, in gparted it says entire hdd is unallocated, in disk utility it recognizes everything just fine, but in disk utility i cant delete ntfs because of overlapping sectors or partitions i forget which one it is..
[22:17] <TJ-> diverdude: strange...
[22:18] <diverdude> TJ-: i literally copy/pasted your libe
[22:18] <diverdude> line
[22:18] <tryy3> ActionParsnip i got 112 tasks running andd 212 threads is that normal?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: depends on what the server does, check the ram use of each process etc.
[22:19] <diverdude> TJ-: any idea whats missing?
[22:20] <ardchoille> diverdude: is the 1.4.2 bit correct for your system? Just a guess
[22:20] <TJ-> diverdude: Well, that command should work. I see someone else recommending it too. The only different is you have the "1.4.2" on the end. Take a look: http://blog.moonflare.com/2011/10/25/installing-ruby-1-9-2-and-gems-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[22:20] <tryy3> ActionParsnip http://imgur.com/FydPx the tasks that uses most
[22:20] <jrib> TJ-, diverdude: probably gem is installed in some weird place?  Check output of « which gem »
[22:20] <tryy3> and i shut down the server now too
[22:21] <diverdude> jrib: /usr/bin/gem
[22:21] <jrib> diverdude: what ubuntu version are you on anyway?
[22:22] <diverdude> jrib: 12.04
[22:22] <ardchoille> diverdude: you haven't altered $PATH have you?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: software centre is running a lot of times....
[22:22] <excelsior> hey guys, I've been developing a bit on rails, but I want to see how a basic html page would look via localhost. since rails s is out, any suggestions?
[22:22] <diverdude> ardchoille: didnt touch it at all no
[22:22] <ardchoille> ok
[22:23] <jrib> diverdude: diverdude I have gem version 1.8.15 on 12.04
[22:23] <tryy3> ActionParsnip everything runs alot of times :D
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: are you logged in as dennis?
[22:23] <ardchoille> I still suspect that "1.4.2" part
[22:23] <tryy3> ActionParsnip i think that is normal though
[22:23] <diverdude> ardchoille:  echo $PATH
[22:23] <diverdude> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[22:23] <tryy3> ActionParsnip yes
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: i'd close software centre, see if it helps
[22:23] <diverdude> jrib: yeah thats the one i currently have also
[22:23] <ardchoille> diverdude: ok, looks good
[22:24] <TimothyA> anyone here knows if upstart can run a python script under a specific user?
[22:24] <tryy3> ActionParsnip not really ram usage went down to 1190mb
[22:24] <TJ-> diverdude: Does the command run if you do just "sudo gem update --system 1.4.2"
[22:24] <drake_> hey anyone avail. to lend a hand on a keyboard issue when connecting to a remote computer?
[22:24] <diverdude> TJ-: no :/
[22:24] <TJ-> diverdude: same error?
[22:25] <diverdude> yeah: :/usr/share/redmine$ "sudo gem update --system 1.4.2"
[22:25] <diverdude> sudo gem update --system 1.4.2: command not found
[22:25] <harrismrubin_> get calender as ubuntu desktop
[22:25] <excelsior> so, can I just run unicorn?
[22:25] <tryy3> ActionParsnip can it be cuz iam running the ubuntu desktop version so it using graphic stuffs?
[22:25] <TJ-> diverdude: "sudo REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM=1  /usr/bin/gem update --system 1.4.2"
[22:25] <drake_> hey anyone avail. to lend a hand on a keyboard issue when connecting to a remote computer? Everytime i connect to my remote computer, my keyboard bugs out. For example the ''l'' key will lock the remote computer instead of typing the letter ''L'' like it should
[22:26] <diverdude> TJ-: ahhh
[22:26] <diverdude> TJ-: that did it :)
[22:26] <excelsior> so how do I serve from a localhost?
[22:26] <TJ-> diverdude: You have something weird set up for the root user's environment - the PATH is being clobbered. What does this show? "sudo echo $PATH"
[22:27] <ardchoille> TJ-: could it be the space between gem and update is why he needs the path?
[22:27] <harrismrubin_> where do you find the web cal url
[22:27] <TJ-> diverdude: actually, that command is silly. $PATH will be resolved before sudo is called!.
[22:28] <TJ-> diverdude: easy way to check it: "sudo -i"   then "echo $PATH"  then "exit"
[22:28] <drake_> hey anyone avail. to lend a hand on a keyboard issue when connecting to a remote computer? Everytime i connect to my remote computer, my keyboard bugs out. For example the ''l'' key will lock the remote computer instead of typing the letter ''L'' like it should
[22:28] <diverdude> TJ-: sudo echo $PATH
[22:28] <diverdude> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[22:28] <drake_> come on smart people..where are you at?
[22:29]  * jrib looks to the left and right, goes back to work
[22:29] <muelli> drake_: hm. Well, do you have any other funny effects?
[22:29] <muelli> drake_: sounds like "Ctrl+Alt" are pressed, too. How are you connecting remotely?
[22:29] <drake_> no its intermittnet and its pretty much driving me mad already...the only band aid fix for it is. to close out the session and then reconnect to the same computer
[22:30] <drake_> then the keyboard works normally
[22:30] <kevin_> hi all. using lightdm but not unity. i want to have an autologin but i keep getting an error "unable to load session 'ubuntu'" . here are the contents of lightdm.conf and .xsession-errors. https://gist.github.com/c6cc5fb7c4c17eb4a178 . any ideas? i basically followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins
[22:30] <jrib> diverdude: I don't use ruby much.  So there's a ruby version, a gems version (output of gem --version I presume), and then there's a version of something else that you are upgrading with your command?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: when its done, close the app and check ram usage
[22:30] <drake_> muelli i am using remmina rdp client btw
[22:30] <drake_> i checked the settings and i manually set the keyboard to ''us'' within remmina...
[22:30] <muelli> drake_: never heard of that. Is that free software?
[22:31] <drake_> really? yeah. it came highly recommended for ubuntu
[22:31] <muelli> drake_: you could try vino or the proper rdesktop RDP client.
[22:31] <tryy3> ActionParsnip when what is done?
[22:31] <drake_> muelli humm..see i wonder if it is the client im using (remmina)...
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> tryy3: whatever you are doing with software centre
[22:32] <muelli> drake_: quite possible. Just try another.
[22:32] <drake_> muelli ten four, i'll give that a shot, thanks
[22:32] <diverdude> jrib: yeah i dont know..i also never use it actually :/ i wish i could totally avoid ruby
[22:32] <jrib> diverdude: oh
[22:32] <drake_> i'll try vino
[22:32] <tryy3> ActionParsnip its shut down still using 1gb ram
[22:32] <drake_> muelli thanks for the tip
[22:32] <OerHeks> diverdude, try without version nr > sudo REALLY_GEM_UPDATE_SYSTEM=1 gem update --system
[22:33] <excelsior> so how do I set up a localhost on ubuntu?
[22:33] <diverdude> OerHeks: i did make it work now already with help of these clever guys in here. but thx
[22:33] <WeThePeople> is there a program to fix overlapping partitions for linux
[22:34] <jrib> kevin_: I have auto-login and it just used the last session I had picked
[22:34] <muelli> :D
[22:34] <drake_> muelli are  you familiar with browsing network paths in windows?
[22:35] <muelli> excelsior: depends. What is a "localhost"...? you're probably done, try "ping localhost"...
[22:35] <FireStorms> WeThePeople, Gparted?
[22:35] <muelli> drake_: nope. btw, your nick sucks. I can't tab you well. Next time, I'll prefer to not talk to you :D
[22:35] <jrib> kevin_: can you say what you changed exactly in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[22:35] <excelsior> muelli: I just realized, I'm doing it, but it's pointing at an old project.
[22:35] <kevin_> jrib: that would be ok. but for some reason, it *defaults* to 'ubuntu' no matter what i put in lightdm.conf, and there is no 'ubuntu' session in /usr/share/xsessions.
[22:35] <WeThePeople> firestorms, gparted wont work neither will disk utility
[22:35] <excelsior> I'm not even sure where it is.
[22:36] <drake_> my nick? nick name?
[22:36] <excelsior> How do I make it point at the current project??
[22:36] <FireStorms> WeThePeople, ok was just taking a guess, my bad
[22:36] <kevin_> jrib: i changed user-session to gnome-fallback, then added autologin-user and autologin-user-timeout
[22:36] <FireStorms> I will help somebody one day!
[22:36] <muelli> drake_: yes. as there are so many other nicks starting with "dra"...
[22:36] <WeThePeople> np
[22:36] <jrib> kevin_: that should be right.  I have my user-session as "user-xsession"
[22:36] <nklose> I'm having trouble installing xubuntu 12.04 from a LiveCD. Whenever I choose "try xubuntu without installing" or "install xubuntu" the loading bar shows, then I just get a light blue screen and nothing happens.
[22:36] <shantorn> and like typing drak is so hard
[22:36] <jrib> kevin_: (and then tho two autolign* lines the same as you)
[22:37] <kevin_> hrm.
[22:37] <excelsior> muelli: did you get that? it's pointing at the wrong project, how do I redirect? I don't remember how I set that up in the first place
[22:37] <kevin_> ok, lemme take a gander. brb.
[22:37] <TJ-> WeThePeople: Usually you have to fix overlaps in your head, and then use tools to implement the fix.
[22:37] <jrib> Kevin`: what's in your ~/.dmrc
[22:37] <WeThePeople> tj-, tools such as..
[22:37] <drake_> oh stop being lazy guys
[22:37] <muelli> excelsior: sorry dude. You're questions are very weird to me. Try to formulare a more clear question.
[22:37] <muelli> !details | excelsior also follow this.
[22:38] <ardchoille> nklose: corrupt download? did you md5sum the iso before burning?
[22:38] <jrib> muelli: get a better client :)
[22:38] <nklose> ardchoille: The download is good, I've used the same disk on other machines with no problems. I even tried making a second copy with a new download of the ISO but same problem.
[22:38] <muelli> jrib: interesting suggestion. Do you have a recommendation?
[22:39] <jrib> muelli: weechat works great here
[22:39] <excelsior> I do a localhost:80 in the browser window, my old project pops up, I don't remember how I set it up. I have Ubuntu 10.10. How do I make the localhost:80 open my new project?
[22:39] <muelli> jrib: how would you tab drake_ w/o typing nearly all of the letters yourself?
[22:39] <chuckharmston> excelsior: using apache?
[22:39] <TJ-> WeThePeople: fdisk, cfdisk, dd, tune2fs
[22:39] <excelsior> I think so
[22:39] <jrib> muelli: d<tab>
[22:39] <excelsior> chuckharmston: I think so
[22:40] <muelli> jrib: and then you get how many suggestions? I get two dozen or so.
[22:40] <chuckharmston> excelsior: edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[22:40] <ardchoille> nklose: then I would suspect a hardware issue
[22:40] <n0sq> i can't get a desktop to come up on a dell inspiron 600m - only get a purple screen - ubuntu 11.10 32 bit
[22:40] <excelsior> chuckharmston: thanks, that might do it.
[22:40] <chuckharmston> excelsior: there are a few different ways it might be set up. search for the directory of your old project
[22:40] <jrib> muelli: weechat offers the suggestions to me in order of last talked, so usually one or two tabs gets me there (drake is the only active 'd' at the moment, so it's one tab)
[22:41] <muelli> oh, alright. I see jrib. I think it makes sense. Interesting. Thanks for the info.
[22:41] <nklose> ardchoille: Any idea if there's a way for me to get it working? I used to have Windows 7 on this machine and it worked fine.
[22:41] <jrib> muelli: sure
[22:41] <drake_> haha, yes jrib got my back thnx
[22:41] <excelsior> chuckharmston: that's not it, I don't think...
[22:41] <ardchoille> nklose: no, other than sticking around in the channel and see if someone can help
[22:41] <nklose> ardchoille: I'll do that then, thanks!
[22:42] <kevin_> jrib: alright, working now... however, is there a way i can only do the autologin after X seconds? i changed the autologin-user-timeout but nothing happens
[22:42] <jrib> kevin_: don't know about that.  Why do you want to though?
[22:42] <chuckharmston> excelsior: it depends on what server software you're using. what are the HTTP headers of localhost:80?
[22:42] <nklose> Anyone else have any ideas? Xubuntu install shows the loading screen after I choose "install xubuntu" but then after a while the screen goes blue and nothing happens.
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> nklose  try the !nomodeset solution
[22:43] <tryy3> apt-get is cool :D
[22:43] <nklose> !nomodeset
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > nklose
[22:43] <kevin_> jrib: default to xbmc user using XBMC session if no user is chosen in 60 seconds.
[22:43] <Marzata> nklose: tried Lubuntu?
[22:43] <Dice-Man> !windows
[22:43] <Marzata> nklose: tried Fedora?
[22:44] <Marzata> nklose: do they live boot?
[22:44] <kevin_> jrib: but i just saw this bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/902852 , meh
[22:44] <nklose> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
[22:44] <nklose> Marzata: I haven't heard of Lubuntu and I haven't tried Fedora. Think I'll have better luck with them?
[22:44] <jrib> kevin_: now we see how much you really want the feature ;)
[22:45] <Marzata> nklose: also Slitaz
[22:45] <kevin_> jrib: haha, yeah... computer duals as HTPC
[22:46] <Marzata> nklose: try them and see. I use Xubuntu on all machines and I'm very happy with it.
[22:46] <WindBuntu> nklose, no at the moment nothing compares to ubuntu 12.04
[22:46] <jrib> kevin_: don't know about your specific setup, but have you considered just having two instances of X?
[22:46] <batman> tu
[22:46] <WindBuntu> i have tried ubuntu xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu and about 15 other distros
[22:46] <milehigh> getting a fsck 'serious errors were found while checking /boot' fsck.ext2: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/md0,  unrecoverable fsk error [1308] status 8 on boot, I can ignore error and continue and it boots into OS fine, if i unmount /boot and run fsck manually there is no error, error still appears on reboot, mdstat shows md0 is missing a spare but thats it, any ideas?
[22:46] <Marzata> nklose: don't waste time with Apple and MS dream interfaces like those in Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[22:47] <harrismrubin_> live ubuntu calandar wallpaper
[22:47] <Marzata> nklose: go for Xubuntu and Lubuntu
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> WindBuntu: Xpud kicks ass imho, boots in seconds
[22:47] <WindBuntu> i tried that it wouldnt even do anything for me
[22:47] <WindBuntu> but it looked really cool in print
[22:48] <excelsior> thanks guys, gotta run.
[22:48] <WindBuntu> i just leave ubuntu 12.04 on all the time and only turn the monitor on or off
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> WindBuntu: the driver set is small, my hardware is super linux friendly
[22:49] <WindBuntu> i was hoping to use on a p4
[22:49] <harrismrubin_> ubuntu calendar wallpaper
[22:49] <harrismrubin_> without terminal
[22:49] <axiomfinity> why my speakers dont work ned to use my headphones jack
[22:50] <harrismrubin_> ubuntu calendar wallpaper
[22:51] <kevin_> hrrrm brb
[22:51] <ardchoille> harrismrubin_: something we can hep you with?
[22:51] <harrismrubin_> ardchoille, ubuntu calendar wallpaper
[22:51] <harrismrubin_> how to get
[22:52] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/77065/use-a-calendar-as-desktop-wallpaper
[22:52] <ardchoille> harrismrubin_: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/77065/use-a-calendar-as-desktop-wallpaper
[22:53] <ardchoille> dr_willis: I wondered whose elbow I ran into getting to that url
[22:53] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/display-google-calendar-on-your-desktop.html
[22:54] <dr_willis> unless you mean somthing like this...  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UqUwVPikChs/S_aUShH_7eI/AAAAAAAANcI/j8nWAexpbio/s1600/2010_Linux_calendar_wallpaper.jpg
[22:55] <ardchoille> Didn't ubuntu have a monthly wallpaper at one time?
[22:55] <ardchoille> I seem to remember taht
[22:55] <ardchoille> s/taht/that/
[22:55] <dr_willis> ardchoille:  i seem to recall somthing like that.. but I tend to just use simple colors. ;P
[22:55] <jrib> ardchoille: yes... with some nudity...
[22:56] <dr_willis> Nudity! :) oh yea.. i rember those..
[22:56] <ardchoille> jrib: eww, don't need that, lol
[22:56] <thufir_> I can run netstat | grep nntp to see nntp connections fine.  How do I know how much traffic has passed, or the current rates, for those connections?  I'm more interested in current rates for connections.  What I really want to see are the two or three most active current connections and their rates up/down.
[22:56] <jrib> ardchoille: heh, they weren't bad.  They were "artsy"
[22:56] <ardchoille> ah
[22:56] <dr_willis> artsy and hawt! :)
[22:56] <ardchoille> I'll stick with my #234066
[22:57] <jrib> ardchoille: http://labs.tineye.com/multicolr#colors=234066;weights=100;
[22:58] <ardchoille> jrib: hey, nice site there
[23:00] <ardchoille> jrib: that's one addictive site!
[23:01] <dr_willis> wow.. look at all the violets.. ;)
[23:01] <jrib> ardchoille: pretty nifty though I wish you could filter by size too
[23:02] <joern__> hi. i'm working with command line interface and need to provide username and password with a command but I'm unsure about the correct syntax. The server demands a cmd in form of "$ nova [--os-username <username] [--os-pasword <pw>], how do I add username and password to my "nova" command?
[23:02] <jrib> thufir_: I'm sure there are many solutions, but one possibility I believe is iftop
[23:03] <Eitan> hey gents, quick question on ulimits, i am having the darnest time getting the ulimit changed permanent. I can change stach size by doing ulimit -s XXX size. but when i change /etc/security/limits.conf  * hard stack 10240 it wont affect ulimit even after restart. I also went ahead and made the cahnge to /etc/pam.d/common-sessions
[23:03] <Eitan> what could i be missing
[23:03] <rumpe1> joern__, what's the problem? Isn't that exactly the command-syntax you just gave?
[23:03] <jrib> joern__: if your username is "joern" and your password is "password", you would probably do: nova --os-username joern --os-password password
[23:04] <thufir_> jrib: thanks
[23:04] <fatbastard> helllo ubuntu 12.04 has a bug with my network card websites not working in ubuntu pls suggest me a non ubuntu based distro taht will work
[23:04] <fatbastard> linux mint pinguy all has same problem
[23:05] <joern__> rumpe1 thanks, was my first idea as well but somehow it isnt working
[23:05] <fatbastard> zorin os also
[23:05] <[deXter]> fatbastard, Try Fedora
[23:05] <fatbastard> it is tough
[23:05] <Eitan> ive restarted multiple times and still nothing
[23:05] <[deXter]> fatbastard, not at all
[23:05] <Eitan> not sure what else to do
[23:05] <[deXter]> fatbastard, is it a new computer?
[23:06] <fatbastard> 2 years old
[23:06] <[deXter]> Hmm, then fedora should run just fine on it
[23:06] <thufir_> when iftop shows => 69.16.185.252  is that an upload or download?
[23:06] <fatbastard> is fedora as usr frndly as  ubuntu
[23:06] <ardchoille> fatbastard: are you sure the network card is working?
[23:07] <fatbastard> 9it is abug
[23:07] <thufir_> fatbastard: no.  ubuntu is more friendly about mp3, etc, which is non-free.
[23:07] <fatbastard> launchpad i saw it
[23:07] <ardchoille> ok
[23:07] <fatbastard> problem is will this get solved in 12.10
[23:07] <fatbastard> i tried 12.10
[23:07] <fatbastard> beta
[23:07] <fatbastard> same bug
[23:08] <fatbastard> any chance in final it will get fixed?
[23:08] <ardchoille> fatbastard: Fedora is more bleeding edge, it's the testbed for software that may eventualy be added to Red Hat Linux
[23:08] <fatbastard> which one should i go all ubunu based distros are not working same bug
[23:08] <fatbastard> linux mint also has same bug
[23:09] <[deXter]> fatbastard, I told you, give fedora a try as it has the newest kernel and software
[23:09] <ardchoille> linux mint is also ubuntu-based
[23:09] <fatbastard> will this bug get sorted in final 12.10 later this october?
[23:10] <jrib> Eitan: hmm, sounds like it should work.  Maybe give more details (pastebin your changes to both files and include ulimit output) to see if someone can help
[23:10] <fatbastard> is ubuntu devs fast at fixing bugs
[23:10] <TJ-> fatbastard: That should tell you that the problem isn't the distro, it's the hardware and/or driver. You should stick with one distro/release and work on finding a solution
[23:10] <Eitan> sure
[23:10] <Eitan> thanks
[23:10] <fatbastard> launchpad no solutions
[23:11] <chrs_> when is 12.10 dropping?
[23:11] <fatbastard> 28 oct
[23:11] <TJ-> fatbastard: So far you've not told us what the device is, or the exact fault, or any reports from system log-files that will help identify the cause and/or solution
[23:11] <chrs_> cool
[23:11] <fatbastard> r8169 driver issue with this
[23:11] <Eitan> http://pastebin.com/hNLiFC6e
[23:11] <Eitan> limits.conf
[23:11] <machicola>  which command would i use in order to get all the ips of machines on my local network?
[23:11] <fatbastard> i did not bookmark the page
[23:12] <TJ-> fatbastard: What does "lspci -nn | egrep '(net|wire)'   " show?
[23:12] <fatbastard> i reported the bug
[23:12] <fatbastard> aaah i showed it before
[23:12] <jrib> Eitan: you should try to just re-ask your question and include the pastebins at the end; this way new people can take a look
[23:12] <fatbastard> apstebin
[23:12] <Eitan> http://pastebin.com/PhzBejXp
[23:12] <Eitan> will do
[23:12] <Eitan> thanks
[23:12] <fatbastard> it is a bug and no soln is there for it now
[23:13] <fatbastard> should i tell the problem again
[23:13] <TJ-> give us the bug # then, and we can look at the details there
[23:13] <fatbastard> aah
[23:13] <Eitan> i am having the darnest time getting the ulimit changed permanent. I can change stach size by doing ulimit -s XXX size. but when i change /etc/security/limits.conf  * hard stack 10240 it wont affect ulimit even after restart. I also went ahead and made the cahnge to /etc/pam.d/common-sessions, my limits.conf is here http://pastebin.com/hNLiFC6e and my common-session is here http://pastebin.com/PhzBejXp
[23:14] <fatbastard> i have adsl-pppoe in live cd internet works when i install to hdd websites deos not load
[23:14] <ardchoille> several distros seem to have the same realtek problem (missing firmware)
[23:14] <jrib> Eitan: and the ulimit command showing the limits didn't change
[23:14] <fatbastard> in network manager if i do connect automatically it does not connect
[23:15] <TJ-> fatbastard: What does "lspci -nn | egrep '(net|wire)'   " show?
[23:15] <fatbastard> i have to click it manual dsl connection 1
[23:15] <fatbastard> am in office pc
[23:15] <Eitan> yes
[23:15] <fatbastard> windows :P
[23:15] <Eitan> well jrib: if i do the ulimit -s 10240
[23:15] <Eitan> ulimit will change for that session
[23:16] <ardchoille> fatbastard: here is some info about the problem solved: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/realtek-driver-issues-solved-fyi-928824/#post4599782
[23:16] <Eitan> but it will never boot up like that when i restart even with the limits.conf set
[23:16] <fatbastard> linuxquestions.org no it should be slackwarequestions.org
[23:16] <fatbastard> lol
[23:17] <hash> hello
[23:17] <ardchoille> fatbastard: the instructions look b=to be distro agnostic
[23:17] <hash> is there a general linux room?
[23:17] <ardchoille> hash: #linux  ?
[23:18] <hash> ah thanks
[23:19] <CaptainKnots> what would cause apt to give me an error reading package lists when i run 'apt-get update'? I already tried 'rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && apt-get clean && apt-get update' to no avail.
[23:20] <nith1210> CaptainKnots: what error specifically?
[23:20] <hash> well i cant post in there
[23:20] <CaptainKnots> nith1210: it gives me "FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[23:20] <CaptainKnots> "
[23:20] <hash> ok so maybe someone here might be able to help,
[23:20] <CaptainKnots> after I run apt-get update
[23:20] <hash> im looking into building a carputer and was looking for suggestions on an os
[23:21] <nith1210> CaptainKnots: You got me, is there any reason you might have an excessive number of processes running or a lack of memory?
[23:22] <CaptainKnots> nith1210: ah that was it
[23:22] <CaptainKnots> running it on a tiny vps
[23:22] <CaptainKnots> and mysql was running
[23:22] <CaptainKnots> haha
[23:22] <nith1210> Glad to help XD
[23:22]  * n0sq may have to go get a different distro if 12.04.1 32 bit won't install on a 32 bit machine
[23:22] <CaptainKnots> time for sqlite
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> n0sq: try Lubuntu of Xubuntu if your CPU doesn't support PAE
[23:23] <n0sq> what's the diff?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> n0sq: try just asking your question rather than pathetic threats
[23:23] <machicola> is 192.168.1.0/24 like the default for local network or somethin?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> n0sq: Xubuntu and Lubuntu don't use the PAE kernel as they are made for low end systems whose CPUs probably don't support PAE
[23:24] <n0sq> ActionParsnip: well, i'll be nice by not responding to your ridiculus statement
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> machicola: its a private IP range, yes
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> n0sq: if you have a support question rather than 'ooh I'm not going to use ubuntu' etc, just stick to the question etc
[23:26] <nith1210> n0sq: did you install it from a usb key or a cd?
[23:26] <DG_> hey guys, why does my screen look like it's zoomed in
[23:27] <ardchoille> DG_: does it scroll when the cursor hits the screen edge?
[23:27] <DG_> @ardchoille not the browser, everything in general
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> DG_: what video chip do you use? sounds like you are just at a low res
[23:27] <hash> so anyone Help with a fast booting, multitasking os for a carputer. Needs to work with a mini atx/itx board , run gps , log real time engine data, touch screen compatibility,
[23:27] <ardchoille> DG_: right, does the desktop scroll when the cursor hits the edge of the monitor screen?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> hash: try ubuntu
[23:28] <DG_> @ardchoille nope
[23:28] <ardchoille> ok
[23:29] <hash> I thought ubuntu wasnt to mini board friendly?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> hash: why would it not be?
[23:29] <ardchoille> hash: ubuntu works on embedded systems
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> DG_: what video chip do you use?
[23:29] <hash> that i dont know
[23:30] <DG_> @actionparsnip its really old, like ATI RAEDON XPRESS 1100
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> DG_: is the system fully updated?
[23:30] <hash> it was from reading other reviews that it was not to efficient on a couple of the mini itx boards
[23:30] <TJ-> hash: How about ALS (Automotive Grade Linux) ?
[23:31] <hash> TJ, never heard of that ill have to check it out
[23:31] <Eitan> exit
[23:31] <TJ-> hash: https://lwn.net/Articles/517424/
[23:31] <DG_> @actionparsnip no clue most likely since they haven't made an update for it in years
[23:32] <hash> Alright thanks
[23:32] <hash> i gotta go to school or ima be late
[23:33] <DG_> @actionparsnip this is the first time it happened it was after a reboot
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> DG_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:34] <TJ-> DG_: check the log-file for clues: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for starters
[23:34] <DG_> 0.o
[23:35] <DG_> see we may just have one problem here, im stupid lol
[23:35] <ardchoille> DG_: never admit that.. always blame the hardware ;)
[23:36] <TJ-> DG_: The computer is stupid, for not figuring out you don't have bad eyesight yet!
[23:37] <ardchoille> bad age detection algo :)
[23:37] <DG_> @TJ actually i have horrible eyesight but i have contacts
[23:37] <TJ-> DG_: seems like the computer is wearing them :p
[23:37] <Hatori> good morning
[23:38] <TJ-> DG_: can you pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[23:38] <DG_> So what do i do to open the grub i've done it before i just forgot how
[23:38] <TJ-> DG_: which version of Ubuntu is it? 12.04 Precise? 10.04 Lucid ?
[23:39] <DG_> 12.04
[23:39] <TJ-> DG_: and are you currently using it to type to us?
[23:40] <ardchoille> 120pt font, lol
[23:48] <DG_> back, and yes TJ i am
[23:49] <TJ-> DG_: install pasetebinit and the send the log-file to the pastebin and give us the URL "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:50] <DG_> but my point is how do i get into the grub menu
[23:51] <TJ-> DG_: Press the Shift key when the PC is starting, just as BIOS POST ends
[23:52] <DG_> oh so not the command prompt?
[23:52] <DG_> i thought that grub was the command prompt lol
[23:54] <alec> does anyone know how to get xft support for dmenu?
[23:54] <TJ-> DG_: No, Press Ctrl+Alt+T
[23:54] <goddard> is there a hot key i can use to automatically put execution properties or mod +x
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> goddard: could make a nautilus script
[23:55] <terminhell> hi all
[23:55] <DG_> oh never mind i fixed it
[23:55] <nith1210> Hi terminhell
[23:55] <terminhell> how do i enable more amazon ads?
[23:55] <DG_> lolwhat?
[23:55] <terminhell> :p jk, hows the new release looking?
[23:56] <goddard> terminhell: crap gonna switch to Gnome Shell
[23:56] <unsobill> is it possible my ubuntu freeze up after i click firefox random link
[23:57] <goddard> yes
[23:57] <unsobill> ?
[23:57] <terminhell> firefox has a random link now?
[23:57] <unsobill> any random link at firefox
[23:57] <unsobill> u feeling smart today?
[23:57] <goddard> yes
[23:58] <unsobill> then lets fix my ubunut random freeze ups
[23:58] <terminhell> upgrade ff?
[23:58] <unsobill> :D and i share my bbq recipe with u
[23:58] <unsobill> ff on 15.0.1 version
[23:59] <terminhell> does it happen with any other browser?
[23:59] <nomadFaust> My machine is stuck at "Mounting fuse control filesystem" and won't boot even in reco very mode. I have tried "rmmod fuse" to no avail. What do I do?