| snia | I wrote soe days ago something about m-audio fast track pro, an usb1 sound-device. I'd like this sound-device to work out of box in ubuntu-studio quantal. To configure this card is very difficult at the moment . By default pulseaudio (pavucontrol) recognize the sound-device but inputs of the sound-device doesn't work. | 00:16 |
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| snia | reading this help http://joegiampaoli.blogspot.it/2011/06/m-audio-fast-track-pro-for-debian-linux.html , I managed to have input to work just adding the file fast-track-pro.conf in /etc/modules. I hope to have 2inputs analog/ 4 output analog to work out of box, with pulseaudio and jackd. configuration on pulse audio for this sound-device could be simpler, not more than 3-4 configuration(digital in/out on or off). 2in and 2out analog coul | 00:22 |
| snia | d be nice anyway. | 00:22 |
| snia | my little help, I'm just an user, can't help much more than this. Bye all, good linux to all. | 00:23 |
| drupin | hey smartboyhw | 11:52 |
| drupin | holstein: | 11:52 |
| smartboyhw | Hi drupin | 11:52 |
| drupin | you dont seem 14 to me.. i read you articles | 11:52 |
| drupin | they are very mature | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | drupin, I AM 14........Want to see my ID card or student ID? LOL | 11:53 |
| drupin | lol no | 11:53 |
| drupin | just the way you present in forums | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | drupin, er........... | 11:53 |
| drupin | is like a professional.. | 11:53 |
| drupin | but you kool | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | drupin, a little bit of family history and school life helps:P | 11:54 |
| drupin | family history? | 11:54 |
| smartboyhw | drupin, LOL kidding;P | 11:55 |
| drupin | ok | 11:55 |
| drupin | any ways i will do some testing also | 11:55 |
| smartboyhw | drupin, good :) | 11:55 |
| drupin | are you only two testing so far | 11:55 |
| smartboyhw | drupin, talk about this in #ubuntustudio-devel will be best, but normally only me and len-dt does it | 11:55 |
| * smartboyhw does 64-bit, len-dt does 32-bit | 11:56 | |
| smartboyhw | Talk to you later drupin lunch time | 11:56 |
| smartboyhw | *dinner:P | 11:56 |
| drupin | ok smartboyhw tcc | 11:56 |
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| FrozenZia | Hello studio folks - I could use some help getting a sound card troubleshot, but I'm an audio n00b, so I may have some stupid questions... | 13:56 |
| FrozenZia | fresshly installed ubuntustudio 12.04.1, w/updates | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | holstein, your world of expertise:P | 13:56 |
| FrozenZia | lspci is showing the card as an ICE1712 (Envy24) | 13:57 |
| FrozenZia | I'm trying the very simplest thing of trying to get any sound at all to come out of the single speaker w/RCA jack that I have | 13:57 |
| FrozenZia | The card has 4 RCA jacks, and a serial port, which has a "dongle" or whatever with 2 rca jacks and a couple of midi jacks. | 13:58 |
| FrozenZia | Not sure what else I should tell you or what I should try. | 13:59 |
| FrozenZia | I disabled the onboard audio, b/c I thought that might be causing problems. | 14:02 |
| FrozenZia | Haven't yet been able to get any sound from this sound card.. | 14:03 |
| FrozenZia | Menu - Media Playback - Mixer: shows "M Audio Audiophile 24/96 (Alsa mixer)" and "Playback: ICE1712.....(PulseAudio Mixer)" | 14:07 |
| * FrozenZia leaves for dinner, play practice... | 14:31 | |
| holstein | FrozenZia: we can talk about JACK config sometime.. i would run pavucontrol | 14:47 |
| holstein | disabling the onboard sound is a good idea | 14:48 |
| ailo_ | FrozenZia: Use mudita24 | 15:13 |
| ailo_ | FrozenZia: The internal volumes needs to be raised. | 15:14 |
| ailo_ | You'll find controls for them, named dac for outputs, and adc for inputs | 15:14 |
| holstein | ailo_: is that something included by default now? i seem to remember seeeing some chat about that now that i see the name | 15:17 |
| ailo_ | holstein: mudita24 is a dedicated mixer for envy24 cards, the successor of envy24control | 15:18 |
| ailo_ | There are a bunch of mixers included by default | 15:18 |
| ailo_ | ICE1712(envy24) is one of those chips that has internal levels at 0 by default, and needs a mixer for raising them | 15:18 |
| holstein | ailo_: maybe we could "thin out the options" if the old one doenst do anything anymore | 15:18 |
| holstein | ive never had a card that had mixer support like that | 15:19 |
| ailo_ | holstein: envy24-control is not on the list anymore. | 15:19 |
| ailo_ | If you go into "Audio Production" -> "Mixers and Card Control", you'll find a bunch of mixers for different chips | 15:20 |
| holstein | ailo_: reading back, it looks like FrozenZia was only trying alsamixer anyways or pulse | 15:20 |
| holstein | ailo_: yeah ive seen them, i just always ignore them since i dont have any hardware for htem | 15:20 |
| ailo_ | Alsamixer works just as well. Just that, mudita24 makes more sense, and is better looking | 15:20 |
| holstein | ailo_: ive seen screenies... looks good | 15:21 |
| ailo_ | Well, for raising volumes. Perhaps not for all tweaks | 15:21 |
| ailo_ | I mean, alsamixer may be lacking in something | 15:21 |
| ailo_ | echo cards, RME cards are among those that have dedicated mixers | 15:22 |
| holstein | yeah... db boost or cut or something that the cards have internally that alsamixer doesnt need to show, or cant or whatever | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | bye all | 15:22 |
| FrozenZia | holstein: ailo : alright, I'm back now and could try and follow some instructions if either/both of you are still around... | 18:31 |
| FrozenZia | For starters, I wonder if I should have my lone speaker plugged straight into one of the rcas or into the rca/midi-dongle thingie that's in the serial port. | 18:31 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: ailo uses that mixer.. and i heard that it was depricated and had forgotten | 18:31 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: i sould get a file playing, and plug the speaker into all the outs to test | 18:32 |
| FrozenZia | I had opened mixer, and found DAC and DAC1 -- they're both now at about 50% (as is everything else I could find) | 18:32 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: alsa mixer will "see" that device ailo says.. but the tool to use is the mudita24 | 18:33 |
| FrozenZia | One of those possibly boneheaded questions is this: this speaker is of a "cheapo" set, where the "master" plugs in with a normal stereo plug, and then this speaker plugs into it with an rca jack. So it SHOULD work just going straight into a sound card as well, right? | 18:34 |
| FrozenZia | I guess I'm just wondering if this should need some sort of power to work.... | 18:34 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: you cant just plug a speaker up to an out like that | 18:34 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: you'll need an amp | 18:35 |
| FrozenZia | It doesnt't get any when plugged into the "master" speaker, though... | 18:35 |
| FrozenZia | Argh. | 18:35 |
| holstein | i would use headphones | 18:35 |
| FrozenZia | Uh - headphones with an RCA connector? | 18:35 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: theres no headphone output? | 18:35 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: the rca out is not for headphones, nor for a speaker | 18:36 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: the rca out is for an rca in on an amplifier | 18:36 |
| FrozenZia | Not on this card, no -- just 2 pair of rca's and the serial port | 18:37 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: you should be able to run those rca's to any reciever | 18:37 |
| holstein | home stereo or whatever | 18:37 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: the "serial port" is likely for the additonal dongle.. with the other outs.. potentially headphones, balanced 1/4". xlr... | 18:38 |
| FrozenZia | hmmm... now if only I had such a beast.... Oh wait, I may actually have one in the garage - will have to go check it out. | 18:38 |
| FrozenZia | (beast = home stereo, that is) | 18:39 |
| FrozenZia | well, can you help me decipher mudita24 or whatever? I've got it up and running, but clueless about what to tweak... | 18:39 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: wont matter if you got no way to hear it | 18:40 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: you could be tweaking the knob that spits out golded audio.. and you got no way to hear it | 18:40 |
| FrozenZia | well, yeah, I just thought I could "unmute" the "correct" things while you're online, then go rummage in the garage... | 18:41 |
| holstein | we wont know what the correct things are, if you dont have a way of testing | 18:41 |
| holstein | i typically plug something in *everywhere* and i unmute and tweak *everything* to learn the equipment | 18:42 |
| holstein | i like to be totally unsurprised by my studio equipment | 18:42 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: i would look in the box for the dongle though | 18:42 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: is that an maudio 1010lt? | 18:42 |
| FrozenZia | Ok, thought maybe there would be channels or pcms or whatever X and Y that I should definitely change. Ok, but I'll go see what I can dig out of the garage | 18:43 |
| holstein | OH.. the audiofile.. i see | 18:43 |
| holstein | thats more of a "consumer" grad thing | 18:43 |
| holstein | grade* | 18:43 |
| FrozenZia | holstein: yeah, Audiophile 24/96. | 18:43 |
| holstein | you dont get balanced outs.. just those rca's | 18:43 |
| FrozenZia | I got tabs in mupita for Monitor Inputs, Monitor PCMs, Patchbay/Router, Hardware settings, Analog Volume and Profiles | 18:44 |
| holstein | you wont find a pro studio doing *any* recording over unbalanced connections.. but you can find a card with balanced in's in a similar price range | 18:44 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: i dont trust labels | 18:44 |
| FrozenZia | =o) | 18:45 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: i tweak, and test... and label my self... after testing and hearing it | 18:45 |
| * FrozenZia heads out to the garage, flashlight in hand... | 18:47 | |
| FrozenZia | Argh. Receiver found, but seems to have a bad fuse, so not an option. How about this - I've got a Yamaha keyboard w/MIDI jacks -- can I hook that up somehow and simulate something that will clarify whether or not this soundcard is working? | 19:08 |
| FrozenZia | (dumb question #569?) | 19:08 |
| drupin | lowlatency-pae means? | 19:19 |
| FrozenZia | holstein: ailo : thanks for your help, but don't have the proper equipment yet to figure this out. Will try and acquire a receiver for testing tomorrow... | 19:31 |
| holstein | FrozenZia: dont spend too much money on gear... you can just get an appropriate sound card in that case | 20:41 |
| holstein | drupin: lowlatency is a different kernel.. not the generic, but one to help with latency issues.. a compromise between the generic and a realtime one | 20:42 |
| holstein | !pae | 20:42 |
| ubottu | To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info | 20:42 |
| drupin | ok | 20:46 |
| drupin | no my ram is jusr 2.5Gig | 20:48 |
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