[00:16] I wrote soe days ago something about m-audio fast track pro, an usb1 sound-device. I'd like this sound-device to work out of box in ubuntu-studio quantal. To configure this card is very difficult at the moment . By default pulseaudio (pavucontrol) recognize the sound-device but inputs of the sound-device doesn't work. [00:22] reading this help http://joegiampaoli.blogspot.it/2011/06/m-audio-fast-track-pro-for-debian-linux.html , I managed to have input to work just adding the file fast-track-pro.conf in /etc/modules. I hope to have 2inputs analog/ 4 output analog to work out of box, with pulseaudio and jackd. configuration on pulse audio for this sound-device could be simpler, not more than 3-4 configuration(digital in/out on or off). 2in and 2out analog coul [00:22] d be nice anyway. [00:23] my little help, I'm just an user, can't help much more than this. Bye all, good linux to all. [11:52] hey smartboyhw [11:52] holstein: [11:52] Hi drupin [11:52] you dont seem 14 to me.. i read you articles [11:53] they are very mature [11:53] drupin, I AM 14........Want to see my ID card or student ID? LOL [11:53] lol no [11:53] just the way you present in forums [11:53] drupin, er........... [11:53] is like a professional.. [11:54] but you kool [11:54] drupin, a little bit of family history and school life helps:P [11:54] family history? [11:55] drupin, LOL kidding;P [11:55] ok [11:55] any ways i will do some testing also [11:55] drupin, good :) [11:55] are you only two testing so far [11:55] drupin, talk about this in #ubuntustudio-devel will be best, but normally only me and len-dt does it [11:56] * smartboyhw does 64-bit, len-dt does 32-bit [11:56] Talk to you later drupin lunch time [11:56] *dinner:P [11:56] ok smartboyhw tcc === smartboyhw is now known as nemesis-project === nemesis-project is now known as smartboyhw [13:56] Hello studio folks - I could use some help getting a sound card troubleshot, but I'm an audio n00b, so I may have some stupid questions... [13:56] fresshly installed ubuntustudio 12.04.1, w/updates [13:56] holstein, your world of expertise:P [13:57] lspci is showing the card as an ICE1712 (Envy24) [13:57] I'm trying the very simplest thing of trying to get any sound at all to come out of the single speaker w/RCA jack that I have [13:58] The card has 4 RCA jacks, and a serial port, which has a "dongle" or whatever with 2 rca jacks and a couple of midi jacks. [13:59] Not sure what else I should tell you or what I should try. [14:02] I disabled the onboard audio, b/c I thought that might be causing problems. [14:03] Haven't yet been able to get any sound from this sound card.. [14:07] Menu - Media Playback - Mixer: shows "M Audio Audiophile 24/96 (Alsa mixer)" and "Playback: ICE1712.....(PulseAudio Mixer)" [14:31] * FrozenZia leaves for dinner, play practice... [14:47] FrozenZia: we can talk about JACK config sometime.. i would run pavucontrol [14:48] disabling the onboard sound is a good idea [15:13] FrozenZia: Use mudita24 [15:14] FrozenZia: The internal volumes needs to be raised. [15:14] You'll find controls for them, named dac for outputs, and adc for inputs [15:17] ailo_: is that something included by default now? i seem to remember seeeing some chat about that now that i see the name [15:18] holstein: mudita24 is a dedicated mixer for envy24 cards, the successor of envy24control [15:18] There are a bunch of mixers included by default [15:18] ICE1712(envy24) is one of those chips that has internal levels at 0 by default, and needs a mixer for raising them [15:18] ailo_: maybe we could "thin out the options" if the old one doenst do anything anymore [15:19] ive never had a card that had mixer support like that [15:19] holstein: envy24-control is not on the list anymore. [15:20] If you go into "Audio Production" -> "Mixers and Card Control", you'll find a bunch of mixers for different chips [15:20] ailo_: reading back, it looks like FrozenZia was only trying alsamixer anyways or pulse [15:20] ailo_: yeah ive seen them, i just always ignore them since i dont have any hardware for htem [15:20] Alsamixer works just as well. Just that, mudita24 makes more sense, and is better looking [15:21] ailo_: ive seen screenies... looks good [15:21] Well, for raising volumes. Perhaps not for all tweaks [15:21] I mean, alsamixer may be lacking in something [15:22] echo cards, RME cards are among those that have dedicated mixers [15:22] yeah... db boost or cut or something that the cards have internally that alsamixer doesnt need to show, or cant or whatever [15:22] bye all [18:31] holstein: ailo : alright, I'm back now and could try and follow some instructions if either/both of you are still around... [18:31] For starters, I wonder if I should have my lone speaker plugged straight into one of the rcas or into the rca/midi-dongle thingie that's in the serial port. [18:31] FrozenZia: ailo uses that mixer.. and i heard that it was depricated and had forgotten [18:32] FrozenZia: i sould get a file playing, and plug the speaker into all the outs to test [18:32] I had opened mixer, and found DAC and DAC1 -- they're both now at about 50% (as is everything else I could find) [18:33] FrozenZia: alsa mixer will "see" that device ailo says.. but the tool to use is the mudita24 [18:34] One of those possibly boneheaded questions is this: this speaker is of a "cheapo" set, where the "master" plugs in with a normal stereo plug, and then this speaker plugs into it with an rca jack. So it SHOULD work just going straight into a sound card as well, right? [18:34] I guess I'm just wondering if this should need some sort of power to work.... [18:34] FrozenZia: you cant just plug a speaker up to an out like that [18:35] FrozenZia: you'll need an amp [18:35] It doesnt't get any when plugged into the "master" speaker, though... [18:35] Argh. [18:35] i would use headphones [18:35] Uh - headphones with an RCA connector? [18:35] FrozenZia: theres no headphone output? [18:36] FrozenZia: the rca out is not for headphones, nor for a speaker [18:36] FrozenZia: the rca out is for an rca in on an amplifier [18:37] Not on this card, no -- just 2 pair of rca's and the serial port [18:37] FrozenZia: you should be able to run those rca's to any reciever [18:37] home stereo or whatever [18:38] FrozenZia: the "serial port" is likely for the additonal dongle.. with the other outs.. potentially headphones, balanced 1/4". xlr... [18:38] hmmm... now if only I had such a beast.... Oh wait, I may actually have one in the garage - will have to go check it out. [18:39] (beast = home stereo, that is) [18:39] well, can you help me decipher mudita24 or whatever? I've got it up and running, but clueless about what to tweak... [18:40] FrozenZia: wont matter if you got no way to hear it [18:40] FrozenZia: you could be tweaking the knob that spits out golded audio.. and you got no way to hear it [18:41] well, yeah, I just thought I could "unmute" the "correct" things while you're online, then go rummage in the garage... [18:41] we wont know what the correct things are, if you dont have a way of testing [18:42] i typically plug something in *everywhere* and i unmute and tweak *everything* to learn the equipment [18:42] i like to be totally unsurprised by my studio equipment [18:42] FrozenZia: i would look in the box for the dongle though [18:42] FrozenZia: is that an maudio 1010lt? [18:43] Ok, thought maybe there would be channels or pcms or whatever X and Y that I should definitely change. Ok, but I'll go see what I can dig out of the garage [18:43] OH.. the audiofile.. i see [18:43] thats more of a "consumer" grad thing [18:43] grade* [18:43] holstein: yeah, Audiophile 24/96. [18:43] you dont get balanced outs.. just those rca's [18:44] I got tabs in mupita for Monitor Inputs, Monitor PCMs, Patchbay/Router, Hardware settings, Analog Volume and Profiles [18:44] you wont find a pro studio doing *any* recording over unbalanced connections.. but you can find a card with balanced in's in a similar price range [18:44] FrozenZia: i dont trust labels [18:45] =o) [18:45] FrozenZia: i tweak, and test... and label my self... after testing and hearing it [18:47] * FrozenZia heads out to the garage, flashlight in hand... [19:08] Argh. Receiver found, but seems to have a bad fuse, so not an option. How about this - I've got a Yamaha keyboard w/MIDI jacks -- can I hook that up somehow and simulate something that will clarify whether or not this soundcard is working? [19:08] (dumb question #569?) [19:19] lowlatency-pae means? [19:31] holstein: ailo : thanks for your help, but don't have the proper equipment yet to figure this out. Will try and acquire a receiver for testing tomorrow... [20:41] FrozenZia: dont spend too much money on gear... you can just get an appropriate sound card in that case [20:42] drupin: lowlatency is a different kernel.. not the generic, but one to help with latency issues.. a compromise between the generic and a realtime one [20:42] !pae [20:42] To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info [20:46] ok [20:48] no my ram is jusr 2.5Gig