[00:16] <snia> I wrote soe days ago something about m-audio fast track pro, an usb1 sound-device. I'd like this sound-device to work out of box in  ubuntu-studio quantal.  To configure this card is very difficult at the moment . By default pulseaudio (pavucontrol)  recognize the sound-device but inputs of the sound-device doesn't work.
[00:22] <snia> reading this help http://joegiampaoli.blogspot.it/2011/06/m-audio-fast-track-pro-for-debian-linux.html   , I managed to have input to work just adding the file fast-track-pro.conf in /etc/modules. I hope to have 2inputs analog/ 4 output analog  to work out of box, with pulseaudio and jackd. configuration on pulse audio for this sound-device could be simpler, not more than 3-4 configuration(digital in/out on or off). 2in and 2out analog coul
[00:22] <snia> d be nice anyway.
[00:23] <snia> my little help, I'm just an user, can't help much more than this. Bye all, good linux to all.
[11:52] <drupin> hey smartboyhw
[11:52] <drupin> holstein:
[11:52] <smartboyhw> Hi drupin
[11:52] <drupin> you dont seem 14 to me.. i read you articles
[11:53] <drupin> they are very mature
[11:53] <smartboyhw> drupin, I AM 14........Want to see my ID card or student ID? LOL
[11:53] <drupin> lol no
[11:53] <drupin> just the way you present in forums
[11:53] <smartboyhw> drupin, er...........
[11:53] <drupin> is like a professional..
[11:54] <drupin> but you kool
[11:54] <smartboyhw> drupin, a little bit of family history and school life helps:P
[11:54] <drupin> family history?
[11:55] <smartboyhw> drupin, LOL kidding;P
[11:55] <drupin> ok
[11:55] <drupin> any ways i will do some testing also
[11:55] <smartboyhw> drupin, good :)
[11:55] <drupin> are you only two testing so far
[11:55] <smartboyhw> drupin, talk about this in #ubuntustudio-devel will be best, but normally only me and len-dt does it
[11:56]  * smartboyhw does 64-bit, len-dt does 32-bit
[11:56] <smartboyhw> Talk to you later drupin lunch time
[11:56] <smartboyhw> *dinner:P
[11:56] <drupin> ok smartboyhw tcc
[13:56] <FrozenZia> Hello studio folks - I could use some help getting a sound card troubleshot, but I'm an audio n00b, so I may have some stupid questions...
[13:56] <FrozenZia> fresshly installed ubuntustudio 12.04.1, w/updates
[13:56] <smartboyhw> holstein, your world of expertise:P
[13:57] <FrozenZia> lspci is showing the card as an ICE1712 (Envy24)
[13:57] <FrozenZia> I'm trying the very simplest thing of trying to get any sound at all to come out of the single speaker w/RCA jack that I have
[13:58] <FrozenZia> The card has 4 RCA jacks, and a serial port, which has a "dongle" or whatever with 2 rca jacks and a couple of midi jacks.
[13:59] <FrozenZia> Not sure what else I should tell you or what I should try.
[14:02] <FrozenZia> I disabled the onboard audio, b/c I thought that might be causing problems.
[14:03] <FrozenZia> Haven't yet been able to get any sound from this sound card..
[14:07] <FrozenZia> Menu - Media Playback - Mixer: shows "M Audio Audiophile 24/96 (Alsa mixer)" and "Playback: ICE1712.....(PulseAudio Mixer)"
[14:31]  * FrozenZia leaves for dinner, play practice...
[14:47] <holstein> FrozenZia: we can talk about JACK config sometime.. i would run pavucontrol
[14:48] <holstein> disabling the onboard sound is a good idea
[15:13] <ailo_> FrozenZia: Use mudita24
[15:14] <ailo_> FrozenZia: The internal volumes needs to be raised.
[15:14] <ailo_> You'll find controls for them, named dac for outputs, and adc for inputs
[15:17] <holstein> ailo_: is that something included by default now? i seem to remember seeeing some chat about that now that i see the name
[15:18] <ailo_> holstein: mudita24 is a dedicated mixer for envy24 cards, the successor of envy24control
[15:18] <ailo_> There are a bunch of mixers included by default
[15:18] <ailo_> ICE1712(envy24) is one of those chips that has internal levels at 0 by default, and needs a mixer for raising them
[15:18] <holstein> ailo_: maybe we could "thin out the options" if the old one doenst do anything anymore
[15:19] <holstein> ive never had a card that had mixer support like that
[15:19] <ailo_> holstein: envy24-control is not on the list anymore.
[15:20] <ailo_> If you go into "Audio Production" -> "Mixers and Card Control", you'll find a bunch of mixers for different chips
[15:20] <holstein> ailo_: reading back, it looks like FrozenZia was only trying alsamixer anyways or pulse
[15:20] <holstein> ailo_: yeah ive seen them, i just always ignore them since i dont have any hardware for htem
[15:20] <ailo_> Alsamixer works just as well. Just that, mudita24 makes more sense, and is better looking
[15:21] <holstein> ailo_: ive seen screenies... looks good
[15:21] <ailo_> Well, for raising volumes. Perhaps not for all tweaks
[15:21] <ailo_> I mean, alsamixer may be lacking in something
[15:22] <ailo_> echo cards, RME cards are among those that have dedicated mixers
[15:22] <holstein> yeah... db boost or cut or something that the cards have internally that alsamixer doesnt need to show, or cant or whatever
[15:22] <smartboyhw> bye all
[18:31] <FrozenZia> holstein: ailo : alright, I'm back now and could try and follow some instructions if either/both of you are still around...
[18:31] <FrozenZia> For starters, I wonder if I should have my lone speaker plugged straight into one of the rcas or into the rca/midi-dongle thingie that's in the serial port.
[18:31] <holstein> FrozenZia: ailo uses that mixer.. and i heard that it was depricated and had forgotten
[18:32] <holstein> FrozenZia: i sould get a file playing, and plug the speaker into all the outs to test
[18:32] <FrozenZia> I had opened mixer, and found DAC and DAC1 -- they're both now at about 50% (as is everything else I could find)
[18:33] <holstein> FrozenZia: alsa mixer will "see" that device ailo says.. but the tool to use is the mudita24
[18:34] <FrozenZia> One of those possibly boneheaded questions is this: this speaker is of a "cheapo" set, where the "master" plugs in with a normal stereo plug, and then this speaker plugs into it with an rca jack.  So it SHOULD work just going straight into a sound card as well, right?
[18:34] <FrozenZia> I guess I'm just wondering if this should need some sort of power to work....
[18:34] <holstein> FrozenZia: you cant just plug a speaker up to an out like that
[18:35] <holstein> FrozenZia: you'll need an amp
[18:35] <FrozenZia> It doesnt't get any when plugged into the "master" speaker, though...
[18:35] <FrozenZia> Argh.
[18:35] <holstein> i would use headphones
[18:35] <FrozenZia> Uh - headphones with an RCA connector?
[18:35] <holstein> FrozenZia: theres no headphone output?
[18:36] <holstein> FrozenZia: the rca out is not for headphones, nor for a speaker
[18:36] <holstein> FrozenZia: the rca out is for an rca in on an amplifier
[18:37] <FrozenZia> Not on this card, no -- just 2 pair of rca's and the serial port
[18:37] <holstein> FrozenZia: you should be able to run those rca's to any reciever
[18:37] <holstein> home stereo or whatever
[18:38] <holstein> FrozenZia: the "serial port" is likely for the additonal dongle.. with the other outs.. potentially headphones, balanced 1/4". xlr...
[18:38] <FrozenZia> hmmm... now if only I had such a beast....  Oh wait, I may actually have one in the garage - will have to go check it out.
[18:39] <FrozenZia> (beast = home stereo, that is)
[18:39] <FrozenZia> well, can you help me decipher mudita24 or whatever?  I've got it up and running, but clueless about what to tweak...
[18:40] <holstein> FrozenZia: wont matter if you got no way to hear it
[18:40] <holstein> FrozenZia: you could be tweaking the knob that spits out golded audio.. and you got no way to hear it
[18:41] <FrozenZia> well, yeah, I just thought I could "unmute" the "correct" things while you're online, then go rummage in the garage...
[18:41] <holstein> we wont know what the correct things are, if you dont have a way of testing
[18:42] <holstein> i typically plug something in *everywhere* and i unmute and tweak *everything* to learn the equipment
[18:42] <holstein> i like to be totally unsurprised by my studio equipment
[18:42] <holstein> FrozenZia: i would look in the box for the dongle though
[18:42] <holstein> FrozenZia: is that an maudio 1010lt?
[18:43] <FrozenZia> Ok, thought maybe there would be channels or pcms or whatever X and Y that I should definitely change.  Ok, but I'll go see what I can dig out of the garage
[18:43] <holstein> OH.. the audiofile.. i see
[18:43] <holstein> thats more of a "consumer" grad thing
[18:43] <holstein> grade*
[18:43] <FrozenZia> holstein: yeah, Audiophile 24/96.
[18:43] <holstein> you dont get balanced outs.. just those rca's
[18:44] <FrozenZia> I got tabs in mupita for Monitor Inputs, Monitor PCMs, Patchbay/Router, Hardware settings, Analog Volume and Profiles
[18:44] <holstein> you wont find a pro studio doing *any* recording over unbalanced connections.. but you can find a card with balanced in's in a similar price range
[18:44] <holstein> FrozenZia: i dont trust labels
[18:45] <FrozenZia> =o)
[18:45] <holstein> FrozenZia: i tweak, and test... and label my self... after testing and hearing it
[18:47]  * FrozenZia heads out to the garage, flashlight in hand...
[19:08] <FrozenZia> Argh. Receiver found, but seems to have a bad fuse, so not an option.  How about this - I've got a Yamaha keyboard w/MIDI jacks -- can I hook that up somehow and simulate something that will clarify whether or not this soundcard is working?
[19:08] <FrozenZia> (dumb question #569?)
[19:19] <drupin> lowlatency-pae means?
[19:31] <FrozenZia> holstein: ailo : thanks for your help, but don't have the proper equipment yet to figure this out. Will try and acquire a receiver for testing tomorrow...
[20:41] <holstein> FrozenZia: dont spend too much money on gear... you can just get an appropriate sound card in that case
[20:42] <holstein> drupin: lowlatency is a different kernel.. not the generic, but one to help with latency issues.. a compromise between the generic and a realtime one
[20:42] <holstein> !pae
[20:46] <drupin> ok
[20:48] <drupin> no my ram is jusr 2.5Gig