/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/04/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* micahg goes and uploads kaffeine to precise-proposed00:24
micahgdo you keep stable release branches for kubuntu packages?00:26
micahgor can I just base off of LP and upload?00:27
JontheEchidnaany idea how the most recent Qt upload marked bug 744812 as fixed?02:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74481202:32
JontheEchidna(For the Quantal task for qt4-x11)02:33
tsimpsonJontheEchidna: looks like 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu2 actually contained the fix https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+changelog03:21
JontheEchidnaoh, it's the -proposed playing tricks03:22
JontheEchidnathanks, makes sense03:22
JontheEchidnaback to integration by parts03:23
ScottKmicahg: No.  Just base of the archive and upload.03:39
ScottKRiddell: So.  It looks like you have to copy from release back to proposed (which then picks up the added binaries) and copy to release again.03:41
ScottKTrying that now.03:41
ScottKNope.03:47
ScottKRiddell: Hit an LP bug.  You'll need to reupload the ones that weren't finished.03:47
wgrantBug #1061374 for the record03:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061374 in Launchpad itself "PlainPackageCopyJob.attemptCopy() crashes if only binaries were copied" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106137403:57
tsimpsonbug #1061372 just reported in #kde btw03:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061372 in Kubuntu PPA " kmail kontact korganizer libeventviews4 to be REMOVED in upgrade to KDE 4.9.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106137203:58
micahgScottK: should I bother removing the Vcs-*?04:33
ScottKNo04:33
micahgScottK: done04:47
ScottKOK.04:48
* ScottK is just going to sleep.04:48
ScottKWill try to look tomorrow.04:48
GirlyGIrlAnyone seen littlegirl lately?05:23
debfxRiddell: what's up with this change:08:54
debfx-Breaks: kde-wallpapers (<< 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu2~),08:54
debfx+Breaks: kde-wallpapers (<< 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu2~),08:54
debfxI don't see any file movement in kde-wallpapers from .1 to .208:55
Riddelldebfx: hum, did I do that?09:18
debfxyes09:19
Riddelli don't remember so, I must have been sleepwalking09:21
Riddelldebfx: oh it must have been an over-enthusiastic sed command that was met to update the build-deps09:29
jussishadeslayer: ping?09:58
RiddellScottK: seems like everything in 4.9.2 is compiled?10:20
RiddellDarkwing, apachelogger, ScottK, jussi, JontheEchidna: we've been invited to the community council meeting in 5.5 hours11:30
jussiooh, thats today...11:30
jussiIll try get there11:30
jussiFor all those who havent got one yet: http://lpapp.blogspot.ie/2012/09/reminder-from-randa-free-playbook-for.html11:31
Riddellare they useful?11:35
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1054372] Muon crashed afted new repository added @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1054372 (by BakLAN)11:36
jussiRiddell: given RIM are investing in Qt, possibly11:37
Riddellwow, we've been waiting since Mon Aug 20 16:55:59 2012 for our website to get a bzr pull from sysadmins, there's an obvious thing to moan about at the community council meeting11:39
Riddellhttps://rt.ubuntu.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=2029611:40
* ryanakca grins11:41
Riddellhttp://blogs.kde.org/2012/10/04/its-beta11:44
jussicool11:51
jussiRiddell: did I read correct that we changed default settigns to not include cube any more? 11:51
tsdgeosRiddell: well the ticket has no owner...11:52
BluesKajHi all11:58
=== doko__ is now known as doko
Riddelltsdgeos: surely that's for the sysadmins to set?12:20
Riddelljussi: only 1 desktop, not much of a cube with only 1 side12:20
jussiRiddell: is the a reason we dont have more than 1 ?12:21
Riddelljussi: upstream defaults, upstream likes to use activities instead12:22
jussiRiddell: is that what our users actually want though? Ì mean, is it not the point of Kubuntu that we ship "sane" defaults for our users (not saying upstream defaults arent sane, just that are they sane for our userbase)12:24
Riddelljussi: well hard to say and it's a shame mgrasslin pointed out issues in our kwin settings late in our cycle but that's hardly his fault12:26
Riddellhaving both activities and virtual desktops seems pretty daft though, they're mostly the same thing12:26
jussiRiddell: yeah, i know, but most people have no idea how activites work, and many really like their cube...12:27
agateauhttp://community.kde.org/Plasma/Workspace_Sprint/ActivitiesAndVirtualDesktops12:27
tsimpsonwasn't the default only 2 desktops?12:28
Riddelltsdgeos: yes12:29
* Riddell wonders why yofel_, Quintasan and bulldog98_ always come online together each day12:29
yofel_Riddell: because they use my quasselcore12:33
Riddelltsimpson rather12:48
afiestashey13:26
afiestaswe should take more care of the screenshots we put in the announcements13:26
afiestasafter all, those are our first visit card to people using other distros13:26
afiestasI know it is a wiki and I could modify then but I don't think that's the point, maybe we should have a announcement team or something like that13:27
afiestasto take care of this13:27
afiestaslet me point out a few issues: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QuantalQuetzal/Beta2/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=desktop.png13:27
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afiestaseven though composite is ON, there is a rendering issue I believe in the bottom-left13:27
afiestasalso showing scrollbars in rekonq (specially the horiz one) is not cute13:28
afiestasand well, the "you have additional software" thing, is breaking the "whiteness" of the systray13:28
afiestasoh, and there is a weird ABC thing right to the clock, ppl may think that's there by default13:28
afiestasKRITA and KExi one are awesome, 0 comments there :p13:29
afiestaslightDM-KDE screenshot is not linking to a "full size" version of it, it should13:29
afiestasand the more wider the better so people can see how it will look in a real resolution (16:9 or similar)13:30
afiestasKTp screenshot is done without compositing, with the filter on which clutters the interface13:30
afiestasskanlite is not scanning anything13:30
afiestasKamoso one is not that bad, but there are 3 thumbnails of pic's that were not taken using Kamoso13:31
afiestasowncloud screenshot has at least 4 tabs that are not related to owncloud, and the bookmark toolbar contains a bookmark that's not default13:32
afiestascolord screenshot is not linking to a "full size" version13:32
afiestasthe gtk-config.png"is showing the new gtk configuration together with the old one13:32
afiestas(I wonder if that would happen if i update to quantal)13:33
afiestasThe Kontact one is not linking to a full-size version of it, and it is using the most ugly style ever13:33
afiestasfinally, kubuntu active screenshot is not linking to a full size one, and it is showing a window13:34
afiestasI think we reverted that, and now Kubuntu active is doign fullscreen by default13:34
shadeslayerRiddell: can I get the dimensions for the stickers?13:37
afiestaslol13:40
afiestasReport a bug in launchpad redirect to a wiki13:40
afiestasscary13:40
shadeslayerRiddell: and can we not get the stickers with this http://i.imgur.com/m5RN8.png13:40
afiestasto fill a bug about "kwin doesn't composite by default" where should I do it?13:40
afiestaskwin package?13:40
shadeslayerafiestas: kde-workspace13:41
afiestasshadeslayer: where do I find it? 13:42
shadeslayerlp 101, to file bug against a specific package use :13:43
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 101 could not be found13:43
shadeslayerhttp://pad.lv/fb/kde-workspace13:43
tsimpsonor use ubuntu-bug13:43
shadeslayeror that :P13:43
shadeslayerinterestingly that link does not work for some weird reason13:43
afiestas:s13:43
shadeslayeroh I know13:43
shadeslayerhttp://pad.lv/fb/u/kde-workspace13:43
afiestasitis utter super complicated to report a bug13:43
afiestaslast time with kdepim Riddell had to help me13:44
tsimpsonafiestas: "ubuntu-bug kwin"13:44
afiestaswell, I guess I'm utter stupid as well xd13:44
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo)13:44
afiestastsimpson: that doesn't work in archlinux (currently installing kubuntu in my laptop to test the beta2 cd)13:44
tsimpsonok, you can construct the URL yourself, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+filebug13:45
* tsimpson clicks to make sure13:45
tsimpsonwoo, I was right13:45
shadeslayersure, but that's too long to type out :P13:46
shadeslayerpad.lv ftw13:46
tsimpsonas long as you remember how pad.lv works, which I never do13:46
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah would be cool to use that quatzal image13:48
shadeslayeryah13:48
shadeslayersomething like that quetzal image and then "kubuntu" below the text13:49
Riddellshadeslayer: like this? starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg13:50
shadeslayerthat's a 40313:50
Riddellshadeslayer: try now13:51
shadeslayeryah that works13:51
shadeslayerok13:51
yofel_afiestas: if "Report bug" ever redirects you to the bug reporting wiki append '?no-redirect' to the URL (the wiki page does say that though ;) )13:51
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shadeslayerRiddell: that kubuntu logo will most likely not appear well on the sticker13:51
afiestasyofel: are users supposed to know that? because that sounds kinda hackish13:51
yofel"users" are supposed to use apport or read the wiki. The redirect is disabled for devs13:52
Riddellafiestas: good points on the images, will poke claydoh or mparillo about them when they appear13:52
afiestasubuntu has a bigger barried to report a bug than kde does, interesting13:55
afiestasI sometimes wonder if users should get this "easy access" to kde bugzilla13:55
afiestasor if instead they should pass first through forums.kde.org or a places like that13:55
yofelwell, the amount of crap reports went down considerably once that redirect was implemented13:55
Riddellit's a problem without an ideal solution I think, you never know if a user will be a good bug reporter or not13:56
yofelthe bugzilla bug filing form is sane. The launchpad form is far too simple, so it's easy to report "Doesn't work" and be done.13:56
afiestasif I didn't knew you, IU can tell you I woudln't have reported the last bugs13:57
afiestasbut well, I'm the most lazy user out there13:57
afiestasthe installer seems stuck, it's been in the "Time zone selection" for 30min13:58
afiestasprocess using 100% of a cpu13:58
afiestasis there any log I can give to you before trying again?13:58
Riddell/var/log/installer/debug13:58
tsimpsonafiestas: the wiki actually tells you about ?no-redirect btw13:59
afiestastsimpson: I said I'm lazy... I'm not going to read that wiki xD13:59
afiestasactually first I discarted it because it was full of Ubuntu screenshots with unity13:59
afiestasthen I got redirected again, and I took a closer look andI saw blabalbal Kubuntu here14:00
afiestas(here was the link)14:00
afiestasclicked there, saw another big page full of letters and images, and decided to ask here14:00
tsimpsonthen you read past the "Using Kubuntu?" part ;)14:00
afiestashttp://paste.kde.org/562100/14:00
tsimpsonand the ?no-redirect is just under the last image14:01
tsimpsonthough I don't blame you for not wanting to read all of it, just to report a bug14:01
Riddellhum nothing relevant i there, xnox any ideas on afiestas's installer issue?14:01
afiestasI clicked on "I want third party software" and "update" and selected Spanish as the lang14:02
afiestasin case that matters14:02
afiestasgoing to kill it and try again, this time I will execute it from the terminal14:03
afiestasrestartng ubiquity didn't worked, rebooting14:04
shadeslayer0.o14:04
afiestasit said something like "error sci 0.0 blabalbal"14:05
shadeslayerit's odd how everything seems to crap out around afiestas :P14:05
yofelgood tester ;)14:05
afiestasI like to be annoying xD14:05
shadeslayerI've never had a issue with the installer in the last 3 years :P14:06
shadeslayerexcept the one time that it crashed when I pressed the x button when it was downloading updates14:06
afiestasmayeb coz you always do the same path?14:06
shadeslayer( the x button next to the progress bar )14:06
shadeslayersame path?14:07
afiestasyou always select the same options, and click buttons at the same time14:07
shadeslayermaybe14:07
afiestasfor example before (and now again to try to reproduce it) I'm waiting until the "copying files" finishes to select my timezone14:07
xnoxafiestas: /var/log/syslog is useful as well. installer logs important bits there.14:07
afiestasI usually don't do that, but now (and the time before) did it for testing14:07
shadeslayerah14:08
afiestasxnox: ups, restarted already, will paste in case I can reproduce it again14:08
afiestasnow ti worked (the installed passed to the keyboard layout selection)14:10
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1061614] KWin should enable compositing by default @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061614 (by Alex Fiestas)14:11
jovinby default txt files are opened with libreoffice writer... should be changed to kate 14:21
QuintasanI AM SO DUMB14:23
Quintasanrouter was turned off14:23
Quintasanand I'm like WHY NO INTERNET14:23
QuintasanWTF14:23
jovinxD14:23
BluesKajjovin, if you wish , kate is normally the default for text files14:23
yofelhaha14:23
QuintasanNo, seriously14:24
jovinBluesKaj, i did a fresh install of kubuntu beta 2 and didnt touch anything 14:24
BluesKajjovin, well right click on a text file , open with 'other' , choose utilities>kate , check 'Remember application....'14:27
jovinBluesKaj, yeah :p but dont think that its intended that way14:28
BluesKajif the text file was written in libre office then I would understand , it's just a glitch , jovin , don't get hung up on it 14:30
BluesKajfor example the terminal default prompt was opening at ~/Documents for some reason , and I had to change it back to ~/ in settings>profile>initial dir14:32
afiestasxnox: Riddell http://paste.kde.org/562148/ and http://paste.kde.org/56215415:21
afiestasthis time it got stuck at 93%15:21
afiestas"Copying register of installation" or somethiung like that (trasnalted from spanish)15:22
afiestasusing 100% of one cpu15:22
shadeslayerstupid question, what's the CMake command to include dbus headers?15:23
shadeslayerI'm certain kde-workspace ships a FindDbus.cmake15:25
shadeslayerwhat I'm uncertain of is how to actually find dbus15:27
shadeslayer!find FindDBus.cmake15:27
ubottuFile FindDBus.cmake found in kde-workspace-dev15:27
JontheEchidnafind_package(DBus)15:28
JontheEchidnaor find_package(DBus REQUIRED) if that's the case15:28
shadeslayer/usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:29:33: fatal error: dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h: No such file or directory15:29
JontheEchidnaif you make a top-level directory cmake/modules and place FindDBus.cmake there, then you'd also do this:15:29
JontheEchidnaset(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH "${proj_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake" ${CMAKE_MODULE_PATH})15:29
shadeslayer!find dbus-arch-deps.h15:29
ubottuFile dbus-arch-deps.h found in libdbus-1-dev15:29
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: can't I just use the FindDBus.cmake from kde-workspace-dev ?15:30
JontheEchidnafind_package will search for a FindDBus.cmake or a DBusConfig.cmake15:30
JontheEchidnaand use that to find and properly set the DBus-related cmake variables15:30
shadeslayergrrrr stupid dbus packaging15:31
shadeslayeror dbus includes15:31
JontheEchidnajust curious, why do you need dbus directly?15:34
shadeslayernot me, this kio sysinfo slave15:34
JontheEchidnaaah15:35
JontheEchidnaseems that a KIO slave could use QtDBus15:35
shadeslayerit could also use a sane build system15:36
JontheEchidnalol15:36
JontheEchidnaisn't sysinfo that suse kio slave?15:36
shadeslayerit didn't even have a top level CMakeLists.txt15:36
JontheEchidna:s15:36
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: yeah, but this one is a new version of it15:36
shadeslayerhttp://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=98808&forumpage=015:36
* shadeslayer laughs at 'stable'15:36
shadeslayerthat should have hinted as to what's to come15:36
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, I remember trying to package it back in '0915:36
JontheEchidnakeyword: trying15:37
shadeslayerwell .. mostly done15:37
JontheEchidnagood luck!15:37
JontheEchidnaI haz more logarithms defined as integrals to... integrate15:38
JontheEchidnabbl15:38
Riddellxnox: do you know what that /usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader is which is causing a problem for afiestas?15:43
JontheEchidnaRiddell: it's what downloads the binary blobs for packages like flashplugin-installer and the one for msttcorefonts15:45
JontheEchidnawhat problems is it causing afiestas?15:45
xnoxafiestas: if I were you, I'd try network-less install.15:46
RiddellJontheEchidna: it crashes which prevents the install from completing http://paste.kde.org/56215415:46
JontheEchidnait looks like it continues past that point. the crash should just mean that flash won't be installed15:47
xnoxRiddell: well look at 1184, crap starts there.15:52
DarkwingRiddell: When does the CC meeting start?15:53
shadeslayerhmm .. the only thing that's left is to deal with this dbus issue15:55
JontheEchidnaif I'm correct, it starts in an hour?15:55
DarkwingYeah, I just looked it up on the fridge15:55
Darkwingone hour.15:55
JontheEchidnaI may be slightly late. I have to run something over to a teaching assistant for one of my classes.15:55
shadeslayerI have to do a : cp /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include/dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/ to get dbus to pick up it's own headers15:55
DarkwingI'll actually have internet for it.15:56
jussiDamn18:27
jussihour late :(18:27
* yofel missed it too. Seems to have been productive at least :)18:53
shadeslayerRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg18:58
yofelthe logo is cut off a bit on the bottom, intentional?18:59
shadeslayerwhere?18:59
yofelotherwise: sweet :D18:59
shadeslayeralso, text in black or blue?19:00
* shadeslayer thinks black will look better19:00
yofelthe regular logo has it black, I would stick with that19:01
yofelshadeslayer: rendering issue on my side? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/logo.png19:01
shadeslayeryah19:02
shadeslayerrefresh19:02
yofelhm, no, firefox still shows it like that19:03
* yofel opens it in inkscape19:03
shadeslayernot to mention inkscape messes up colors a bit19:03
yofelalpha blending issue?19:03
shadeslayerdunno, http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal_black.svg vs http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg19:04
shadeslayercolors are way darker19:04
yofel:/19:05
yofelall 3 of your svgs have that cut of piece at the bottom19:05
yofelBUT19:05
yofelit looks fine in inkscape19:05
yofelyep19:06
yofelsvg rendering in firefox is broken19:06
yofelchrome shows it just fine19:06
afiestasxnox: I'm not installing kubuntu because I need to19:06
afiestasbut because I want to help debug19:06
afiestasI mean, I know that if I do the usual offline install it will work because that's what everybody tests19:06
shadeslayeryofel: not to mention I can move the bird + logo in the svg :P19:07
shadeslayeratleast not in inkscape19:07
yofelwhat editor did you use anyway?19:08
shadeslayerinkscape and karbon19:08
shadeslayerwhy?19:08
yofelI forgot about karbon, that's why :P19:09
shadeslayer:P19:09
shadeslayeryofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg < I think black is much better, also, it renders incorrectly in chrome19:10
shadeslayerrenders fine in karbom19:11
shadeslayer*karbon19:11
yofelwell, that grey doesn't look half bad19:11
shadeslayerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.png19:12
shadeslayerlooks fine in png19:12
yofelouch is that bird complex19:12
shadeslayeryeah :D19:12
yofelyeah, as long as you let karbon render it, it's fine19:12
shadeslayeryofel: I don't think the background is required for a sticker19:12
* yofel crashed karbon19:13
shadeslayerhah19:13
yofelah, I know where that cut off rendering might come from. The bottom of the circle is actually the quetzal's tail, the bottom of the logo is a bit higher19:16
yofeltoo many layers for firefox ^^19:17
shadeslayerhah19:18
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1059148] ksplashqml crashed with SIGSEGV in QGraphicsItem::sceneBoundingRect() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059148 (by Willy Imfeld)19:22
xnoxafiestas: ok.19:43
* xnox does only online installs =)19:43
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1020336] plasma-desktop crashed with SIGSEGV @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1020336 (by Simon Andric)20:25

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