[00:24] * micahg goes and uploads kaffeine to precise-proposed [00:26] do you keep stable release branches for kubuntu packages? [00:27] or can I just base off of LP and upload? [02:32] any idea how the most recent Qt upload marked bug 744812 as fixed? [02:32] Launchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744812 [02:33] (For the Quantal task for qt4-x11) [03:21] JontheEchidna: looks like 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu2 actually contained the fix https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+changelog [03:22] oh, it's the -proposed playing tricks [03:22] thanks, makes sense [03:23] back to integration by parts [03:39] micahg: No. Just base of the archive and upload. [03:41] Riddell: So. It looks like you have to copy from release back to proposed (which then picks up the added binaries) and copy to release again. [03:41] Trying that now. [03:47] Nope. [03:47] Riddell: Hit an LP bug. You'll need to reupload the ones that weren't finished. [03:57] Bug #1061374 for the record [03:57] Launchpad bug 1061374 in Launchpad itself "PlainPackageCopyJob.attemptCopy() crashes if only binaries were copied" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1061374 [03:58] bug #1061372 just reported in #kde btw [03:58] Launchpad bug 1061372 in Kubuntu PPA " kmail kontact korganizer libeventviews4 to be REMOVED in upgrade to KDE 4.9.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1061372 [04:33] ScottK: should I bother removing the Vcs-*? [04:33] No [04:47] ScottK: done [04:48] OK. [04:48] * ScottK is just going to sleep. [04:48] Will try to look tomorrow. [05:23] Anyone seen littlegirl lately? [08:54] Riddell: what's up with this change: [08:54] -Breaks: kde-wallpapers (<< 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu2~), [08:54] +Breaks: kde-wallpapers (<< 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu2~), [08:55] I don't see any file movement in kde-wallpapers from .1 to .2 [09:18] debfx: hum, did I do that? [09:19] yes [09:21] i don't remember so, I must have been sleepwalking [09:29] debfx: oh it must have been an over-enthusiastic sed command that was met to update the build-deps [09:58] shadeslayer: ping? [10:20] ScottK: seems like everything in 4.9.2 is compiled? [11:30] Darkwing, apachelogger, ScottK, jussi, JontheEchidna: we've been invited to the community council meeting in 5.5 hours [11:30] ooh, thats today... [11:30] Ill try get there [11:31] For all those who havent got one yet: http://lpapp.blogspot.ie/2012/09/reminder-from-randa-free-playbook-for.html [11:35] are they useful? [11:36] ::qt-bugs:: [1054372] Muon crashed afted new repository added @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1054372 (by BakLAN) [11:37] Riddell: given RIM are investing in Qt, possibly [11:39] wow, we've been waiting since Mon Aug 20 16:55:59 2012 for our website to get a bzr pull from sysadmins, there's an obvious thing to moan about at the community council meeting [11:40] https://rt.ubuntu.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=20296 [11:41] * ryanakca grins [11:44] http://blogs.kde.org/2012/10/04/its-beta [11:51] cool [11:51] Riddell: did I read correct that we changed default settigns to not include cube any more? [11:52] Riddell: well the ticket has no owner... [11:58] Hi all === doko__ is now known as doko [12:20] tsdgeos: surely that's for the sysadmins to set? [12:20] jussi: only 1 desktop, not much of a cube with only 1 side [12:21] Riddell: is the a reason we dont have more than 1 ? [12:22] jussi: upstream defaults, upstream likes to use activities instead [12:24] Riddell: is that what our users actually want though? Ì mean, is it not the point of Kubuntu that we ship "sane" defaults for our users (not saying upstream defaults arent sane, just that are they sane for our userbase) [12:26] jussi: well hard to say and it's a shame mgrasslin pointed out issues in our kwin settings late in our cycle but that's hardly his fault [12:26] having both activities and virtual desktops seems pretty daft though, they're mostly the same thing [12:27] Riddell: yeah, i know, but most people have no idea how activites work, and many really like their cube... [12:27] http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Workspace_Sprint/ActivitiesAndVirtualDesktops [12:28] wasn't the default only 2 desktops? [12:29] tsdgeos: yes [12:29] * Riddell wonders why yofel_, Quintasan and bulldog98_ always come online together each day [12:33] Riddell: because they use my quasselcore [12:48] tsimpson rather [13:26] hey [13:26] we should take more care of the screenshots we put in the announcements [13:26] after all, those are our first visit card to people using other distros [13:27] I know it is a wiki and I could modify then but I don't think that's the point, maybe we should have a announcement team or something like that [13:27] to take care of this [13:27] let me point out a few issues: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QuantalQuetzal/Beta2/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=desktop.png === maco__ is now known as maco [13:27] even though composite is ON, there is a rendering issue I believe in the bottom-left [13:28] also showing scrollbars in rekonq (specially the horiz one) is not cute [13:28] and well, the "you have additional software" thing, is breaking the "whiteness" of the systray [13:28] oh, and there is a weird ABC thing right to the clock, ppl may think that's there by default [13:29] KRITA and KExi one are awesome, 0 comments there :p [13:29] lightDM-KDE screenshot is not linking to a "full size" version of it, it should [13:30] and the more wider the better so people can see how it will look in a real resolution (16:9 or similar) [13:30] KTp screenshot is done without compositing, with the filter on which clutters the interface [13:30] skanlite is not scanning anything [13:31] Kamoso one is not that bad, but there are 3 thumbnails of pic's that were not taken using Kamoso [13:32] owncloud screenshot has at least 4 tabs that are not related to owncloud, and the bookmark toolbar contains a bookmark that's not default [13:32] colord screenshot is not linking to a "full size" version [13:32] the gtk-config.png"is showing the new gtk configuration together with the old one [13:33] (I wonder if that would happen if i update to quantal) [13:33] The Kontact one is not linking to a full-size version of it, and it is using the most ugly style ever [13:34] finally, kubuntu active screenshot is not linking to a full size one, and it is showing a window [13:34] I think we reverted that, and now Kubuntu active is doign fullscreen by default [13:37] Riddell: can I get the dimensions for the stickers? [13:40] lol [13:40] Report a bug in launchpad redirect to a wiki [13:40] scary [13:40] Riddell: and can we not get the stickers with this http://i.imgur.com/m5RN8.png [13:40] to fill a bug about "kwin doesn't composite by default" where should I do it? [13:40] kwin package? [13:41] afiestas: kde-workspace [13:42] shadeslayer: where do I find it? [13:43] lp 101, to file bug against a specific package use : [13:43] Error: Launchpad bug 101 could not be found [13:43] http://pad.lv/fb/kde-workspace [13:43] or use ubuntu-bug [13:43] or that :P [13:43] interestingly that link does not work for some weird reason [13:43] :s [13:43] oh I know [13:43] http://pad.lv/fb/u/kde-workspace [13:43] itis utter super complicated to report a bug [13:44] last time with kdepim Riddell had to help me [13:44] afiestas: "ubuntu-bug kwin" [13:44] well, I guess I'm utter stupid as well xd [13:44] ::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo) [13:44] tsimpson: that doesn't work in archlinux (currently installing kubuntu in my laptop to test the beta2 cd) [13:45] ok, you can construct the URL yourself, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+filebug [13:45] * tsimpson clicks to make sure [13:45] woo, I was right [13:46] sure, but that's too long to type out :P [13:46] pad.lv ftw [13:46] as long as you remember how pad.lv works, which I never do [13:48] shadeslayer: yeah would be cool to use that quatzal image [13:48] yah [13:49] something like that quetzal image and then "kubuntu" below the text [13:50] shadeslayer: like this? starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg [13:50] that's a 403 [13:51] shadeslayer: try now [13:51] yah that works [13:51] ok [13:51] afiestas: if "Report bug" ever redirects you to the bug reporting wiki append '?no-redirect' to the URL (the wiki page does say that though ;) ) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:51] Riddell: that kubuntu logo will most likely not appear well on the sticker [13:51] yofel: are users supposed to know that? because that sounds kinda hackish [13:52] "users" are supposed to use apport or read the wiki. The redirect is disabled for devs [13:52] afiestas: good points on the images, will poke claydoh or mparillo about them when they appear [13:55] ubuntu has a bigger barried to report a bug than kde does, interesting [13:55] I sometimes wonder if users should get this "easy access" to kde bugzilla [13:55] or if instead they should pass first through forums.kde.org or a places like that [13:55] well, the amount of crap reports went down considerably once that redirect was implemented [13:56] it's a problem without an ideal solution I think, you never know if a user will be a good bug reporter or not [13:56] the bugzilla bug filing form is sane. The launchpad form is far too simple, so it's easy to report "Doesn't work" and be done. [13:57] if I didn't knew you, IU can tell you I woudln't have reported the last bugs [13:57] but well, I'm the most lazy user out there [13:58] the installer seems stuck, it's been in the "Time zone selection" for 30min [13:58] process using 100% of a cpu [13:58] is there any log I can give to you before trying again? [13:58] /var/log/installer/debug [13:59] afiestas: the wiki actually tells you about ?no-redirect btw [13:59] tsimpson: I said I'm lazy... I'm not going to read that wiki xD [13:59] actually first I discarted it because it was full of Ubuntu screenshots with unity [14:00] then I got redirected again, and I took a closer look andI saw blabalbal Kubuntu here [14:00] (here was the link) [14:00] clicked there, saw another big page full of letters and images, and decided to ask here [14:00] then you read past the "Using Kubuntu?" part ;) [14:00] http://paste.kde.org/562100/ [14:01] and the ?no-redirect is just under the last image [14:01] though I don't blame you for not wanting to read all of it, just to report a bug [14:01] hum nothing relevant i there, xnox any ideas on afiestas's installer issue? [14:02] I clicked on "I want third party software" and "update" and selected Spanish as the lang [14:02] in case that matters [14:03] going to kill it and try again, this time I will execute it from the terminal [14:04] restartng ubiquity didn't worked, rebooting [14:04] 0.o [14:05] it said something like "error sci 0.0 blabalbal" [14:05] it's odd how everything seems to crap out around afiestas :P [14:05] good tester ;) [14:05] I like to be annoying xD [14:06] I've never had a issue with the installer in the last 3 years :P [14:06] except the one time that it crashed when I pressed the x button when it was downloading updates [14:06] mayeb coz you always do the same path? [14:06] ( the x button next to the progress bar ) [14:07] same path? [14:07] you always select the same options, and click buttons at the same time [14:07] maybe [14:07] for example before (and now again to try to reproduce it) I'm waiting until the "copying files" finishes to select my timezone [14:07] afiestas: /var/log/syslog is useful as well. installer logs important bits there. [14:07] I usually don't do that, but now (and the time before) did it for testing [14:08] ah [14:08] xnox: ups, restarted already, will paste in case I can reproduce it again [14:10] now ti worked (the installed passed to the keyboard layout selection) [14:11] ::workspace-bugs:: [1061614] KWin should enable compositing by default @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1061614 (by Alex Fiestas) [14:21] by default txt files are opened with libreoffice writer... should be changed to kate [14:23] I AM SO DUMB [14:23] router was turned off [14:23] and I'm like WHY NO INTERNET [14:23] WTF [14:23] xD [14:23] jovin, if you wish , kate is normally the default for text files [14:23] haha [14:24] No, seriously [14:24] BluesKaj, i did a fresh install of kubuntu beta 2 and didnt touch anything [14:27] jovin, well right click on a text file , open with 'other' , choose utilities>kate , check 'Remember application....' [14:28] BluesKaj, yeah :p but dont think that its intended that way [14:30] if the text file was written in libre office then I would understand , it's just a glitch , jovin , don't get hung up on it [14:32] for example the terminal default prompt was opening at ~/Documents for some reason , and I had to change it back to ~/ in settings>profile>initial dir [15:21] xnox: Riddell http://paste.kde.org/562148/ and http://paste.kde.org/562154 [15:21] this time it got stuck at 93% [15:22] "Copying register of installation" or somethiung like that (trasnalted from spanish) [15:22] using 100% of one cpu [15:23] stupid question, what's the CMake command to include dbus headers? [15:25] I'm certain kde-workspace ships a FindDbus.cmake [15:27] what I'm uncertain of is how to actually find dbus [15:27] !find FindDBus.cmake [15:27] File FindDBus.cmake found in kde-workspace-dev [15:28] find_package(DBus) [15:28] or find_package(DBus REQUIRED) if that's the case [15:29] /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:29:33: fatal error: dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h: No such file or directory [15:29] if you make a top-level directory cmake/modules and place FindDBus.cmake there, then you'd also do this: [15:29] set(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH "${proj_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake" ${CMAKE_MODULE_PATH}) [15:29] !find dbus-arch-deps.h [15:29] File dbus-arch-deps.h found in libdbus-1-dev [15:30] JontheEchidna: can't I just use the FindDBus.cmake from kde-workspace-dev ? [15:30] find_package will search for a FindDBus.cmake or a DBusConfig.cmake [15:30] and use that to find and properly set the DBus-related cmake variables [15:31] grrrr stupid dbus packaging [15:31] or dbus includes [15:34] just curious, why do you need dbus directly? [15:34] not me, this kio sysinfo slave [15:35] aah [15:35] seems that a KIO slave could use QtDBus [15:36] it could also use a sane build system [15:36] lol [15:36] isn't sysinfo that suse kio slave? [15:36] it didn't even have a top level CMakeLists.txt [15:36] :s [15:36] JontheEchidna: yeah, but this one is a new version of it [15:36] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=98808&forumpage=0 [15:36] * shadeslayer laughs at 'stable' [15:36] that should have hinted as to what's to come [15:36] oh yeah, I remember trying to package it back in '09 [15:37] keyword: trying [15:37] well .. mostly done [15:37] good luck! [15:38] I haz more logarithms defined as integrals to... integrate [15:38] bbl [15:43] xnox: do you know what that /usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader is which is causing a problem for afiestas? [15:45] Riddell: it's what downloads the binary blobs for packages like flashplugin-installer and the one for msttcorefonts [15:45] what problems is it causing afiestas? [15:46] afiestas: if I were you, I'd try network-less install. [15:46] JontheEchidna: it crashes which prevents the install from completing http://paste.kde.org/562154 [15:47] it looks like it continues past that point. the crash should just mean that flash won't be installed [15:52] Riddell: well look at 1184, crap starts there. [15:53] Riddell: When does the CC meeting start? [15:55] hmm .. the only thing that's left is to deal with this dbus issue [15:55] if I'm correct, it starts in an hour? [15:55] Yeah, I just looked it up on the fridge [15:55] one hour. [15:55] I may be slightly late. I have to run something over to a teaching assistant for one of my classes. [15:55] I have to do a : cp /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include/dbus/dbus-arch-deps.h /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/ to get dbus to pick up it's own headers [15:56] I'll actually have internet for it. [18:27] Damn [18:27] hour late :( [18:53] * yofel missed it too. Seems to have been productive at least :) [18:58] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg [18:59] the logo is cut off a bit on the bottom, intentional? [18:59] where? [18:59] otherwise: sweet :D [19:00] also, text in black or blue? [19:00] * shadeslayer thinks black will look better [19:01] the regular logo has it black, I would stick with that [19:01] shadeslayer: rendering issue on my side? http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/logo.png [19:02] yah [19:02] refresh [19:03] hm, no, firefox still shows it like that [19:03] * yofel opens it in inkscape [19:03] not to mention inkscape messes up colors a bit [19:03] alpha blending issue? [19:04] dunno, http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal_black.svg vs http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg [19:04] colors are way darker [19:05] :/ [19:05] all 3 of your svgs have that cut of piece at the bottom [19:05] BUT [19:05] it looks fine in inkscape [19:06] yep [19:06] svg rendering in firefox is broken [19:06] chrome shows it just fine [19:06] xnox: I'm not installing kubuntu because I need to [19:06] but because I want to help debug [19:06] I mean, I know that if I do the usual offline install it will work because that's what everybody tests [19:07] yofel: not to mention I can move the bird + logo in the svg :P [19:07] atleast not in inkscape [19:08] what editor did you use anyway? [19:08] inkscape and karbon [19:08] why? [19:09] I forgot about karbon, that's why :P [19:09] :P [19:10] yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.svg < I think black is much better, also, it renders incorrectly in chrome [19:11] renders fine in karbom [19:11] *karbon [19:11] well, that grey doesn't look half bad [19:12] http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Kubuntu-quantal-quetzal.png [19:12] looks fine in png [19:12] ouch is that bird complex [19:12] yeah :D [19:12] yeah, as long as you let karbon render it, it's fine [19:12] yofel: I don't think the background is required for a sticker [19:13] * yofel crashed karbon [19:13] hah [19:16] ah, I know where that cut off rendering might come from. The bottom of the circle is actually the quetzal's tail, the bottom of the logo is a bit higher [19:17] too many layers for firefox ^^ [19:18] hah [19:22] ::workspace-bugs:: [1059148] ksplashqml crashed with SIGSEGV in QGraphicsItem::sceneBoundingRect() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059148 (by Willy Imfeld) [19:43] afiestas: ok. [19:43] * xnox does only online installs =) [20:25] ::workspace-bugs:: [1020336] plasma-desktop crashed with SIGSEGV @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1020336 (by Simon Andric)