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=== JoseeAntonioR changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to the 24-hour Canonical Community Team Marathon! || http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ || Donate on the webpage, let's help!
=== JoseeAntonioR changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to the 24-hour Canonical Community Team Marathon! || http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ || Donate on the webpage, let's help! || Remember to refresh your browser at 14, 18, 22, 2 and 6 UTC for the new hangout || We're starting soon, so stay tuned
JoseAntonioRok, this is a test for the notices.04:42
JoseAntonioRtest succeded.04:43
sebsebsebhi06:21
bkerensahi06:23
adolphushiiiiii07:29
bkerensaWe will be starting momentarily folks! :) stay tuned in10:01
smartboyhwYay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay10:01
bkerensaNow Live10:02
smartboyhwNow live add oil to the Community team!!!!!!:P10:04
* smartboyhw goes to twitter and g+ to post10:04
dholbachHELLO EVERYONE! :)10:04
smartboyhwHELLO10:04
bkerensahi10:04
JoseeAntonioRI answer support questions there :P10:09
smartboyhwJoseeAntonioR, where?:P10:09
JoseeAntonioRthe Ubuntu facebook page10:09
smartboyhwah10:10
bkerensajono: its 6am in NYC10:10
bkerensa;p10:10
bkerensa9am is the peak web traffic time statistically for the web10:10
* smartboyhw is 6:10 PM here doing homework:P10:10
aquariusnot sure why balloons' Ubuntu Shrine has CDs all over it, since you can't have an Ubuntu CD any more :)10:12
smartboyhwaquarius, balloons isn't in this channel btw10:12
aquariusI noticed. I assume he's only just woken up ;)10:12
smartboyhwaquarius, yeah:P10:12
smartboyhwyay here is balloons :P10:13
balloonslol10:13
balloonsI blame canda10:13
balloons:-p10:13
smartboyhwballoons, LOL10:13
smartboyhw;p_10:13
* smartboyhw gets to actually SEE balloons typing for the first time:P10:14
smartboyhwballoons, slow typing eh?:P10:14
* smartboyhw goes talking here:P10:16
* aquarius donates some money to dpm10:16
jcastro_what?10:16
jcastro_aquarius, but you love music!!10:16
* smartboyhw is 14 and does not have any money to donate so he can just stay here:P10:16
aquariusI do. But dpm was losing :)10:17
aquariusand I like greenpeace :)10:17
smartboyhwI would have donated to balloons if I DO have money:P10:17
balloonssmartboyhw, your here :-) That's a nice donation10:17
smartboyhwballoons, LOL10:17
mhall119you can donate via paypal too, smartboyhw10:17
smartboyhwmhall119, I don't have Paypal10:18
smartboyhwanyway my parents won't permit that:P10:18
HarryLweberhello everyone! hi jono its the former silverlion from Ubuntu-Beginners ;)10:18
bkerensamhall119: you take bitcoins? :D10:18
* smartboyhw blames his parents:P10:18
JoseeAntonioRconvince AlanBell to migrate meetingology to Limnoria!10:18
smartboyhwLOL10:18
mhall119bkerensa: no, only real money10:18
dubacohi10:19
JoseeAntonioRhey, dubaco :)10:19
smartboyhwballoons, I am gonna zsync the Ubuntu Studio image and test it today (still QA):P10:19
dubacoi'm in a sociology class :P10:19
aquariusif Erica goes into labour, does Jono leave the marathon? or does the camera go to hospital with him? :)10:20
dubacoteacher is usually way too fast for me to understand her10:20
bkerensajono: I dont go to sleep until 4am10:20
smartboyhwLOL10:20
dubacojono: hej10:20
aquariusI could make a payment via failcoin.com if that'd help10:21
dubacobitcoin?10:21
aquariusha! now: the community team give jono a remedial lecture in economics ;)10:21
mhall119again10:22
smartboyhwLOL10:22
jcastro_http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/jt213/eli5_what_bitcoins_are_what_they_are_used_for_and/10:22
HarryLwebercan someone please cut off the keyboard sounds? that would be great!10:23
bkerensajono: Ten BTC is a lot converted to USD10:23
bkerensa:)10:23
smartboyhwHarryLweber, er that is difficult:P10:23
balloonswe're losing to an error message?10:23
balloonshttp://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/10:23
bkerensa0.1 btc is $2 USD10:23
smartboyhwballoons, er what error?10:23
balloonshttp://www.reddit.com/10:23
dubacolaters10:23
* smartboyhw does not find any errors10:23
* smartboyhw wonders if anyone accidentally got into the g+ hangout link what will happen10:24
smartboyhwWhy are you all laughing?...10:25
aquariusalso, given the instantrimshot noises that are showing up, you lot might find http://myinstants.com/ useful10:25
smartboyhwlol10:25
aquariusoi!10:26
aquariusless of that, jcastro_10:26
aquariuscheeky git :)10:26
jcastro_hahaha10:26
* smartboyhw goes and registers the nick ubuntu-marathon10:26
=== smartboyhw is now known as ubuntu-marathon
ubuntu-marathonLOL10:26
JoseeAntonioRubuntu-marathon: anyways, the IRCC can take it from you at any time10:27
ubuntu-marathonjust lol10:27
bkerensajono: You raised $83010:27
=== ubuntu-marathon is now known as smartboyhw
bkerensa:D10:27
youBuntumake ubuntu supporting a lot of games and everybody will use it because of its performence ;)10:27
smartboyhw;(10:27
youBuntu*performance10:27
da_ravioliso, who is responsible for what at ubuntu/canonical?10:27
smartboyhwOops sorry wrong smiley:P10:27
aquariusSave The Stalkers10:27
smartboyhw:)10:27
smartboyhwda_ravioli, wow you want a lesson for that?:P10:27
da_raviolican we ask questions?10:28
JoseeAntonioRda_ravioli: sure10:28
JoseeAntonioRhey, Joey!10:29
smartboyhw**** just a short post sorry: http://2buntu.com/2012/10/03/canonical-community-team-24-hour-marathon/ (the askubuntu unofficial blog:P)10:29
mhall119da_ravioli: there's a lot of people in ubuntu/canonical10:30
smartboyhwhey ho elfy10:30
* balloons waves at elfy10:30
da_raviolii mean, if we can ask questions, it would be cool to know whom we can ask concerning specific topics10:31
* jcastro_ nods10:31
elfyhi balloons10:31
dpm _   _ _____ _     _     ___   ___   ___   ___10:31
dpm| | | | ____| |   | |   / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \10:31
dpm| |_| |  _| | |   | |  | | | | | | | | | | | | |10:31
dpm|  _  | |___| |___| |__| |_| | |_| | |_| | |_| |10:31
dpm|_| |_|_____|_____|_____\___/ \___/ \___/ \___/10:31
smartboyhwjono, really that blog post is a bit too quick for typing, I type itin 2 minutes and forced roland taylor to approve:P10:31
smartboyhwdpm, that looks like spam:P10:31
SuperMattspeaking of translations, can we have software center changed to the british version of centre?10:32
d0odSuperMatt: Yessssh10:33
smartboyhwballoons, what are you gona test today?10:33
SuperMattmorning joey10:33
mhall119hey d0od, can we get a plug on OMG about this?10:33
balloonssmartboyhw, anything and everything10:33
smartboyhwballoons, oh!10:34
balloonsactually, I'll be doing some iso testing today and working on testcases :-)10:34
* smartboyhw wants balloons to test smartboyhw10:34
balloonsand share some surprises10:34
elfySuperMatt: it reads as centre here for me10:34
smartboyhwballoons, I'm gonna do maybe like some Ubuntu Studio and vanilla testing today. You want me to work on a testcase?:P10:34
SuperMattelfy: 12.04 or 12.10?10:34
smartboyhwballoons, what surprises eh?:P10:34
elfysmartboyhw: 12.1010:35
smartboyhwelfy, wrong guy mate:P10:35
elfySuperMatt: even :)10:35
SuperMattweird, my 12.10 says center10:35
balloonssmartboyhw, I hear your going to make the studio post-install cases10:35
* smartboyhw is going to do 12.10 testing today however:P10:35
smartboyhwballoons, yes gonna make it to ISO Tracker by RC10:35
balloonsa side goal was to get exotic installations going today10:35
elfySuperMatt: I use xubuntu - but I don't think that should make a difference10:35
SuperMattnot it shouldn't10:36
smartboyhwwe want some edit after today and before RC.10:36
balloonsso if you have some exotic hardware, try for an installation ;-)10:36
smartboyhwballoons, I only got a notebook dude;P10:36
darvockhello all :)10:36
balloonsa notebook is exotic!10:36
jonohey folks10:36
smartboyhwballoons, sorry I am doing it on a VM. The notebook is my only working machine you know:P10:37
SuperMattI wish I could do more in ubuntu, but I have a demanding job/girlfriend, and very little direction so I can never manage to do anything10:37
jonoplease spread the word on Twitter and your blogs to get people over to marathon.ubuntuonair.com :-)10:37
balloonssmartboyhw, ahh!10:37
smartboyhwjono, did .....10:37
jonosmartboyhw,  :-)10:37
smartboyhwjono, :-)10:38
smartboyhwballoons, yeah ahh10:38
* smartboyhw wonders why everyone is talking to him:P10:38
smartboyhwmhall119, good intro:P10:38
* smartboyhw is doing some Chinese exercise:P10:39
smartboyhwballoons, labelling yourself is NOT fun (though I like my nick HTC (Howard the Coward)):P10:39
SuperMattabsolutely no one is talking in #ubuntu-uk10:39
SuperMattun heard of10:39
smartboyhwballoons, no need to intro please we all know about you:P10:40
balloonshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/10:41
smartboyhwballoons, er?10:41
SuperMattballoons: I'm happy to try an install on my ssd with a massive LVM setup on the other disks10:41
balloonsSuperMatt, excellent :-)10:41
javitodaily-live better than beta2?10:42
smartboyhwballoons, testing Ubuntu Studio now:P10:42
balloonslet us know how it turns out..10:42
balloonsyou can report results on the tracker; http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds10:42
SuperMattballoons: if I lose all my data there will be hell to pay10:42
balloonsjavito, daily-live or beta2 your choice :-)10:42
SuperMattThere shouldn't be an issue though10:42
balloonsSuperMatt, backups, backups :-)10:42
* smartboyhw recommends daily-live of course:P10:43
d0odIs balloons nick?10:43
elfyyea10:43
balloonsdBod yes10:43
javitoI will get new pc(A8-3850) these days so before final release need to install something10:43
SuperMattballoons: I have backups of the important things, don't worry10:43
bittinwhat is this?10:43
smartboyhwd0od, real name Nicholas Skaggs but nick is balloons10:44
smartboyhwballoons, why did you choose this nick srsly?10:44
dakerdholbach: maybe some Gangam style Ubuntu remix10:44
dakerGangnam*10:44
* smartboyhw recommends dholbach jono Daviey balloons mhall119 to play some music for us:P10:45
dholbachgangnam style....... let's see - I can't say I'm really fond of the song, but I'll see what I can do :)10:45
bittinnice stuff =>10:45
mhall119you don't want me playing music10:45
smartboyhwballoons, lol really that is not a good gamertag:P10:45
balloonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twenty-One_Balloons10:46
* smartboyhw likes this socialization eh:P10:46
smartboyhwbtw my nick = my email10:46
JoseeAntonioRsay Hi, guys!10:47
smartboyhwJoseeAntonioR, er hi:P10:47
dakerNOT me :)10:47
SuperMattjono: is there a way to *group* donate?10:48
SuperMattno, the feed has died for me!10:48
smartboyhwjono, the two things you want us to do: First one did, second one impossible I don't have money (I'm 14)10:48
balloonsahh!10:48
darvockD:10:49
jonofeed coming back soon10:49
SuperMattSHE JUST CAN'T HANDLE 31 CONNECTIONS10:49
smartboyhwNow who disrupted the hangout?:(:(:(:(:((10:49
jonodholbach, give us the link when ready10:49
smartboyhwSuperMatt, LOL10:49
mhall119bkerensa: tell your contact at google to watch this to see how well we break it10:49
smartboyhwLet us just hang out here for a while:P10:49
Laney:(10:49
smartboyhwLaney, why :(?10:50
darvocksooooooo....10:50
jcastro_He was loving the jokes apparently10:50
Laneybecause it went away, of course10:50
jonosorry folks, hangout coming back soon10:50
bkerensamhall119: hmm10:50
Laneywhich forced me to join this channel :P10:50
javitowhat is this marathon about ?10:50
smartboyhwLaney, LOL10:50
smartboyhwjavito, charity duh:P10:50
javitobut what they will do for charity:P10:50
HarryLweberam i the only one having problems with the live stream?10:50
* smartboyhw is doing promotion in #ubuntuforums to everyone who joined the channel:P10:51
LaneyI realised that my life isn't complete without a bit o'Holbach10:51
JoseeAntonioRok, so people leaving is refreshing the page, don't worry10:51
balloonsindeed10:51
jonoare we back?10:51
balloonswe're back!!!!10:51
balloonsmaybe?10:51
jonoplease refresh10:51
Laneyno10:51
dholbachhttp://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ updated10:51
Laneyaha10:52
LaneyI had to force refresh10:52
smartboyhwOK now it works10:52
mhall119now you all get to watch us eat10:54
SuperMattdonated10:55
smartboyhwAh back10:55
* smartboyhw accidentally got XChat closed ****10:55
mhall119\o/10:55
smartboyhwCongrats SuperMatt10:55
smartboyhwCongrats to the Community team!10:55
smartboyhwhey to all those community team members: Er tell me: If you quit the community team today who do you want to replace you?:P10:56
smartboyhwer that means dholbach mhall119 balloons jono10:56
SuperMattwould it be possible for the community members to + or @10:57
mhall119+ or @?10:57
smartboyhwSuperMatt, good idea for +10:57
JoseeAntonioRok, doing it now10:57
smartboyhwLOL10:57
smartboyhwLOL10:57
SuperMattthanks!10:58
smartboyhwballoons, dpm jono mhall119 jcastro_ dholbach that is stupid answers:P (Sorry):P10:58
smartboyhwballoons, yeah I finished Ubuntu studio testing amd6410:58
dpmsmartboyhw, we're just showing how we are :-)10:59
smartboyhwdpm, lol10:59
* smartboyhw suddenly lost video11:00
smartboyhwah I'm basck11:00
* UnderControl wishes he could watch :(11:00
smartboyhwUnderControl, don't worry11:00
smartboyhwballoons, shame on you in quantal daily you did 15 tests and I did 17:P11:01
balloonsnice!11:01
smartboyhwballoons, er not nice for you:P11:02
globin1a punctured balloon?11:03
smartboyhwglobin1, yessssssss11:04
bkerensamhall119 and dholbach enjoy!11:04
smartboyhwballoons, see what I did for marathon testing :P http://imgur.com/FwDMt11:04
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balloonslol11:05
balloonsnice smartboyhw11:05
smartboyhwballoons, LO11:05
smartboyhw*LOL11:05
bkerensaoh this donation ticker doesnt update instantly eh?11:05
JoseeAntonioRbkerensa: every 5mins11:05
smartboyhwballoons, now I need to prepare for the Ubuntu Studio release mail while doing the 32-bit testing:P11:05
bkerensamhall119: Yorba accepts Bitcoin donations11:05
bkerensa:)11:05
gemahello! when I try to load the video I get an error, can someone give me the link to the current video?11:06
bkerensaand its tax deductible11:06
bkerensa;p11:06
jonoadd your ideas to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HorsemenMarathonIdeas11:06
jonofor things for us to do11:06
smartboyhwgema, try http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=agc0LLUfcaU11:06
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: fix render.py!11:06
smartboyhwjono, good11:06
balloonshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=agc0LLUfcaU11:06
da_ravioli@david: are there any plans to provide www.ubuntu.com in other languages than english?11:06
smartboyhwjono, er I added a testing idea for balloons11:07
gemauhmmm, it keeps saying "An error has occurred. Please try again later." will do :P11:07
smartboyhwI mean lecture11:07
* smartboyhw thinks lecture means things longer than 3 hours11:07
JoseeAntonioRgema: will be waiting for you!11:07
SuperMattI'd quite like to see the community members show off their desktops11:07
smartboyhwballoons, will you be dead talking 3 hours on that?:P11:07
smartboyhwSuperMatt, good advice11:07
balloonsSuperMatt, what do yo umean?11:07
mhall119JoseeAntonioR: render.py can't be fixed, it can only be killed with fire11:07
balloonsohh wallpapers, etc?11:08
SuperMattballoons: just a screenshot of your setup11:08
balloonssure11:08
JoseeAntonioR:P11:08
smartboyhw;P11:08
da_ravioliok, thx11:08
SuperMattjono: nice11:10
balloonsSuperMatt, can you see?11:10
smartboyhwballoons, dholbach, dpm jcastro_ jono mhall119 how many machines do you have and what do you run on ALL those machines (list ALL):P11:10
SuperMattwe can't see that too well, we're seeing the person who is talking the loudest11:10
balloonsi'll screenshot11:11
smartboyhwballoons, just all machines that you own:P11:11
smartboyhwYes that's all that ownership = "Nicholas Skaggs"11:11
smartboyhwor "Daniel Holbach"11:11
smartboyhwOr "Jono Bacon"11:12
balloonsSuperMatt, smartboyhw et la: http://imgur.com/6ozyS11:12
bkerensadholbach: oxfam just RT'ed u11:12
SuperMattballoons: that's huge!11:13
dholbachYES11:13
dholbachthanks bkerensa11:13
SuperMatthah11:13
* smartboyhw thought of an idea: assign a few people to prepare questions to fiercely bombard (ask) to the Community team members...aka "Ask-community-team-question-proposers":P11:13
SuperMattballoons: do canonical staff generally use the stock unity setup, or do you see a lot of customisation around the place?11:13
balloonsSuperMatt, I used to customize a bit11:14
balloonsI've done less and less each cycle11:14
SuperMattpretty much the same here11:14
balloonsthe stock experience is improving or I'm changing :-)11:14
smartboyhwwelcome elfy11:14
davmor2SuperMatt: oh so you only see Jono11:15
SuperMatthurr11:16
davmor2SuperMatt: sorry playing catchup, you said you only see the person talking the loudest11:16
SuperMattyeah, it's the way google hangouts work11:16
da_ravioliwill ubuntuTV be integrated in the OS like windows media center in windows?11:17
balloonsanyone in the uk having trouble viewing the stream?11:17
smartboyhwda_ravioli, no I think it is the real hardware11:18
SuperMattballoons: I was until I went to the youtube page11:18
smartboyhwI AM in the youtube page in HK11:18
marrabldI am using Django for the first time for work11:19
smartboyhwOK jono dholbach dpm jcastro_ mhall119 balloons want to revise Grade 9 (aka Form/Secondary 3) maths?11:19
smartboyhw:P11:19
dholbachhey autoditac :)11:19
balloonssmartboyhw, ohh my it's been a bt11:19
smartboyhwballoons, lol11:20
mhall119smartboyhw: nope :)11:20
smartboyhwmhall119, duh:P11:20
smartboyhwjono, cook balloons :P11:21
davmor2balloons: seems fine here11:21
UnderControlo.o11:21
dholbachsmartboyhw, do you need help with your homework? :)11:21
balloonsdavmor2, thanks11:21
dholbachspeaking of smoking.... :)11:22
\shdholbach: smoking harms ;) how's the weather over in berlin?11:22
davmor2balloons: there were a couple of stutters on startup but now it's okay,  I'm probably not the best tester for that though being as I have a 60 meg connection11:22
smartboyhwdholbach, no not homework just exercise no help needed11:22
balloons??@ 60 meg!?11:22
dholbach\sh, grey, drizzling a bit11:22
balloonswow..11:22
balloonsI have 6.. and that's the highest tier11:22
SuperMattwhat's jono talking about?11:22
balloonstypically I've been on 3 or less11:22
aquariusha, dholbach decides to do the fun sort of smoking11:23
balloonsSuperMatt, jono is talking about bbq11:23
marrabldYou could using it for brewing beer  :-)11:23
SuperMatt... riiiiight11:23
\shdholbach: KA is windy and rainy...11:23
davmor2balloons: over here top tier is 120 or 150 iirc11:23
SuperMattso nothing actual ubuntu related? :P11:23
smartboyhwSuperMatt, NO:P11:23
dholbach\sh, 16°C11:23
SuperMatthurr11:23
balloonslol.. no, just something he started hacking on11:23
* smartboyhw is having about 25 C here11:23
globin1jono: what are you using for graphing?11:24
SuperMattnow I want a bbq11:24
hernan43yeah bootstrap!11:25
\shdholbach: need to go back to CA11:25
davmor2balloons: http://store.virginmedia.com/broadband/speeds-explained/our-typical-speeds.html so they say 100 meg but there is a faster one11:26
balloonsyea..11:27
balloonsI guess I'm stoneagre11:27
balloonsfast enough to stream11:27
marrabldJono use South11:27
balloonslol -- everyone said that at the same time11:27
smartboyhwlol11:27
\shsouth  is nice but sometimes it screws up when using mysql as db backend11:27
mhall119jono: http://south.aeracode.org/11:28
marrabldI thought I was contributing lol turns out I wasn't11:28
marrabldI use postgres11:29
\shpostgres is perfect with south11:29
marrabldwith postgis for geojason data11:29
\shsad about django is right now, that it doesn't support mongoDB from scratch...don't like to use the django-nonrel fork11:29
sheikplease sheik yerbouti :-)11:30
dholbachsheik, hahaha11:32
dholbachsheik, the others are just chatting the whole time - I'm trying to get some work done in the meantime ;-)11:32
sheik;-) murphy's constantly sitting at the door waiting for u to come in :-)11:32
SuperMattwhat http servers are you guys using with django? apache? nginx?11:33
\shjono: so I read somewhere you are near Concord/Wallnut Creek? Next time I am in CA, we have to meet and have some nice  baby  watching and tritip :) (will be next year around june)11:33
dholbachsheik, I can imagine :)11:34
smartboyhwballoons, what is that debian man pages you said you want to do? I don't understand11:34
\shspell it like a dick ;)11:34
dholbachfor those of you who don't know - sheik is my sister's boyfriend - taking care of my dog today :)11:34
\shno joke ;)11:34
dholbachhttp://murphy.holba.ch/gallery/_IMG_2563.html11:35
aenertiaKia ora11:35
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marrabldaenertia from NZ?11:35
AEnertiathats me11:36
AEnertia;-)11:36
balloonssmartboyhw, I was volunteering to do some qa work for debian11:36
marrabldnice bro.  :-) I'm in Western Australia11:36
smartboyhwballoons, ah11:36
AEnertianot so much talking it's my language11:36
AEnertiadude it's just hello in maori11:36
AEnertiafail11:36
balloonshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvLn9PWln811:36
marrabldlol!!!11:36
AEnertiawtf?11:36
AEnertiaI have never heard of that11:37
aquariusit's too orangey for crows!11:37
beard_of_omenshaha http://i.imgur.com/KyTcO.png11:37
\shjono: you missed the moetley crue / kiss / the treatment concert in concord on aug 16th...and I didn't know that you were just around the corner when I was have a great party over there :)11:37
AEnertiaOMG I am going to have nightmares11:37
AEnertiaWow11:38
AEnertiaThat gives me something to talk about11:38
beard_of_omensi just saw a link11:38
dpmaquarius, jono talking badly about you, that's new!11:38
aquariushey!11:39
smartboyhwlol11:39
aquariusscrew *all* of you guys. :)11:39
* dpm hugs aquarius11:39
dpmfrom a distance11:39
* balloons hugs aquaris11:39
mhall119aquarius: \o/11:40
aquariushey!11:40
aquariusI am *working*11:40
* smartboyhw hugs balloons mhall119 dpm dholbach jcastro_ jono 11:40
aquariusha! I am going to do that now, balloons :)11:40
aquariushey! I'm just being abused here!11:40
* smartboyhw wonders who is invited to the hangout11:41
smartboyhwlol11:41
* smartboyhw still doesn't know who is invited...balloons tell me:P11:41
* AEnertia puts up hand11:42
smartboyhwAEnertia, ah11:42
AEnertiaNote you guys need to do the LCA conf11:42
AEnertiabasically form co-allitions11:42
AEnertiaand create competitions for donations11:42
balloonselaborate?11:42
zulone time in band camp11:42
AEnertiai've never seen such effective donation solicitation technique11:42
jonoaquarius, come and join the hangout and talk about Ubuntu One11:43
smartboyhwah it is aquarius go on mate11:43
smartboyhwOutOfControl, oh out of control now?11:44
zuljono: bs...you get dressed my the top up11:44
smartboyhwLOL11:44
OutOfControlsmartboyhw yeah, I've moved to my iPad now11:45
smartboyhwlol11:45
smartboyhwOuch just sent invitation to the guys about having a Ubuntu Studio Open week classroom session....Phew!11:46
\shmusic is really important...we need good rockers ;) like the treatment (not really a) new band from UK playing good old hardrock :) so spend money on Jorges charity :)11:46
AEnertiaok it's 0045 here, night guys... hey ... do me a favor - actually submit some patches ;-)11:46
balloonsgood night AEnertia11:47
AEnertiaka kite!11:47
balloonssleep well11:47
smartboyhwWow 1:50 hours into marathon now11:51
globin1probably chrome?11:51
sagacia cool 22 to go11:51
globin1soundhound ;)11:53
ojiishazaam11:53
jonodo you have questions for aquarius? add them here!11:53
marrabldWhat metric to you have to measure "quality"?11:55
OutOfControlWhat's the team doing right now? :)11:55
da_raviolithe design of the U1 client deserves some improvement...11:56
smartboyhwaquarius, so nobody can contribute to Ubuntu one?11:56
mhall119smartboyhw: you can to the clients11:56
davmor2aquarius: what did you do to the music store it isn't loading anymore :D11:56
smartboyhwLOL11:57
\shaq: is it true, that you store the data on amazon infrastructure, or did it change to a local storage farm in canonical operated DCs?11:57
SuperMattquestion about ubuntu one: google drive's price for 100g is $4.99 a month, yours is $14.95. Is there a review into pricing happening?11:57
smartboyhwballoons, cya gotcha go11:57
marrabldthanks  :-)11:57
ojiiwhat are the plans to add more artists to u1 music? (I'd love to use it, but it just has nothing that interests me ...)11:58
davmor2aquarius: well they hand it to me and then I break it11:58
davmor2balloons: ^11:58
balloonsdavmor2, :-)11:58
marrabldread.  Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance.  R.Pirsig. :-)11:58
jcastro_dholbach, can you invite me to the hangout again so I can get my tablet on there?12:01
dholbachjcastro_, sure12:01
jonoany questions for aquarius about Ubuntu One?12:03
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntuone12:05
balloonslots of projects in there12:05
balloonssurely something in there you can contribute to :-)12:06
* mhall119 on another meeting12:06
da_ravioliis contact sync between thunderbird and u1 already possible?12:08
luconga-peruHello, Algun PERUANO12:12
SuperMattyes, it syncs12:13
marrabldGoogle drive integrates google docs with online editing12:14
SuperMattthanks for the answer12:16
\sh:w12:18
davmor2jono: has Aq moved yet /me ducks behind the sofa for protection12:19
gemaluconga-peru: I am spanish :)12:19
luconga-peruhello gema12:19
gemahi!12:19
d0odWhat's happening with the 'Send to Ubuntu One' button?12:20
marrabldHypothetical :  If time, money & man-hours weren't an issue where do you see Ubuntu one.  ie ultimate milestone.12:20
\shLucid is rock solid I have several products running on it :)12:20
smartboyhwHi balloons dholbach dpm jcastro_ jono mhall11912:21
\shSuper WoW Human Aquarius: http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2012/07/azpoppanel2thumb-1341458251.jpg12:22
\sh:w12:22
luconga-peruALGUN PERUANO12:23
jonod0od, hey12:23
jonocan you put something on OMG about the marathon?12:23
d0odjono: Writing something up atm :)12:24
marrabldGreat, thanks for answering my Q12:24
davmor2aquarius: it's true I mean you're ginger for a start12:26
jonod0od, :-)12:26
d0odWhat's happening with the 'Send to Ubuntu One' button? Is it still in development? Have any more websites/services become interested in it?12:29
marrabldthanks for your time aquarius12:29
sagaciis the U1 windows client being actively developed?12:30
nik90Is there any plans to support symlinks in the future?12:30
* balloons waves @ phillw 12:30
phillwhiyas balloons12:31
\shJohnny Cashs Ring of fire?...was it about Aqs hair colour? ;)12:32
DualBrainhere's a question: why are you leaving? I thought this was a 24-hour marathon (newbie here - be gentle)12:32
da_ravioliif i have music on u1, why can i not stream it with rhythmbox?12:32
SweetsharkAnyone wanting a Coffee? some pure Coffeine? Other drugs? Or dont you needs those in the first hours?12:33
DualBrainGotcha, thanks for the clarity. Fellow ginger: represent!12:33
dholbachSweetshark, balloons said something about 'hash' earlier12:34
DualBrainoooohhhh12:34
DualBraindon't spoil it12:34
Sweetsharkdholbach: hmmm, I love the smell of hash_tables in the morning ...12:35
DualBrainKick Mike off this thing :)12:35
luconga-peruAlguien para poder conversar de software libre12:38
DualBrainGreenpeace making compost?12:39
\shIs Sarah Ferguson gone now??? ;)12:39
\shthe red haired former wife of prince andrew ;)12:40
aquariusmy ex-wife was always a big fan of hers :)12:41
\shjono: it's pronounced like 'a dick' (no joke, I had some issues with this name in the US...they thought i'm joking ;))12:41
aquariusthank you, community team :)12:41
balloonsty Aquarius :-)12:41
marrabldRust in piece12:42
smartboyhwhey phillw12:42
aquariusda_ravioli, if you're interested in writing an Ubuntu One music streaming plugin for rhythmbox, let me know and we can chat about it12:42
da_ravioliaquarius, i would immediately if i was a developer... :-)12:43
aquariusda_ravioli, heh :) Maybe you can find a developer who's interested in it? dpm might be able to help with where to look for such people :)12:43
mhall119d0od: want to join?12:45
DualBraindance off? dance off?12:46
da_ravioliinvite some developers to talk about their apps, e.g. shotwell/yorba, gwibber etc12:46
zulno you dont12:46
* smartboyhw wants to talk too:P12:46
* Sweetshark hides12:47
smartboyhwballoons, why are you wearing a HAT?12:50
\shguys, (especially Jono as Englishman in California ;)) btw...how do you manage it with meetings between e.g. California and Germany? Are you doing it during early evening (17:00, 18:00 CEST and 8am/9am PST?) or how you manage it...I find it difficult to find good times for meetings with my colleagues over there in Santa Barbara12:53
balloonswhy not where a hat?12:53
smartboyhwballoons, why wear?12:53
jcastro_d0od, YO.12:53
balloonslol12:53
smartboyhw\sh, er I think that it is easy12:54
takamitsuhi12:54
smartboyhw\sh, 14:00 GMT would be a good time I thin12:54
smartboyhw*think12:54
takamitsuFuck Off Bill Gates12:54
smartboyhwballoons, dholbach dpm jcastro_ jono mhall119 : Are you sleepy now?12:55
mhall119yes12:55
jcastro_nope12:55
jcastro_just getting started!12:55
smartboyhwtakamitsu, er mind language12:55
takamitsuger12:55
dpmsmartboyhw, it's 14:55 here, so not really sleepy yet ;)12:55
jonosmartboyhw, doing ok :-)12:55
\shsmartboyhw: e.g. between CEST and PST there are 8 hours difference...so when I normally go home my colleagues in CA are starting to work12:55
smartboyhwdpm, lol12:55
smartboyhw\sh, that's the time...:P12:56
\shsmartboyhw: which is not really californian time to start ;)12:56
smartboyhw\sh, well best is that the Asians are going to sleep soon, Europians are gonna have their lunch and Americans just woke up (take me, phillw and balloons respectively) for that so that's when we do QA meetings12:57
marrabldHow are you guys going with the App developer showdown approvals ?13:01
zuli disavow nickleback13:03
smartboyhwOw man this is boring dholbach jcastro_ jono mhall119 any real good topics?:P13:06
jonosmartboyhw, eh?13:06
Sweetsharkvim vs. emacs13:06
jcastro_hah13:06
marrabldWhere's mine.  pymi   :-P13:06
marrabldHow often are you going to run it in the future?  yearly13:07
balloonsFor those of you willing to check out quantal, download the iso and take it for a spin. Let us know how it goes and add your name here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ExoticInstalls13:07
marrabldI don't want to sound like I am complaining.  I thought it was a great idea and lots of fun.  Gave me the motivation to get my arse in to gear13:09
chilicuilgood morning everyone13:10
marrabldidtech13:11
da_ravioliis canonical in talks with adobe to bring their creative suite to ubuntu/linux? i would guess lack of dtp-software is a show-stopper for many people to get rid of windows. ya, gimp is great, but industry standard is still photoshop, illustrator etc. someone who has spent years to learn how to operate photoshop will hardly switch to a new software.13:11
* smartboyhw thinks Adobe is **** sorry13:12
* smartboyhw agrees with jono on the suggestion...You guys doing 24-hours without schedule oh gee13:14
nperryDo any of the horseman have cats, if so I want to see cats!!!13:14
smartboyhwnperry, lol13:15
nperryCat contest....13:15
dholbachbah, firefox is freezing13:15
balloonsohh noes!13:15
sagaciit died13:16
dholbachI hope it doesn't take down13:16
dholbachshit13:16
balloonsit did13:16
mhall119we'll be back on soon13:16
jcastro_I got kicked off13:16
smartboyhwdholbach, wow wow wow no foul language:P13:16
dholbachok, it's back for me13:16
balloonsgood, it came back13:16
smartboyhwwe'll be right back----duh13:16
mhall119can you guys see us now?13:16
smartboyhwAh it is back13:16
chilicuilyep13:16
* smartboyhw seems that he will do a hell lot of testing when awake to support balloons oh dear the CPU is gonna be burnt;(13:17
\shAs Ubuntu is focusing on having the average user using Ubuntu, how does Ubuntu, better Canonical, addressing issues like Netflix not working on Linux (because of freaking silverlight) or Amazon Instant Video having all the time issues with the Flash Plugin not providing the latest greatest DRM support on Linux (especially Ubuntu)...what can the Community Team do to get those things fixed?13:17
jcastro_mine still says unavailable13:17
balloonsvid up for you all?13:18
javitoye13:18
da_ravioli@jono: and i suggest you put information on marathon.ubuntuonair.com about every horseman's job at ubuntu, so people  know what/whom they can address (for the ones who missed your introduction).13:18
chilicuilit's fine here13:18
phillwworking here13:18
smartboyhwworking here13:18
jgdxdonated!113:18
chilicuiloh yep, it's a nice idea da_ravioli13:18
smartboyhwballoons, that's quick, you got the next hour!13:19
smartboyhwwho said da** it ?13:19
balloonsthink I can talk for an hour?13:19
smartboyhwballoons, yes you could:P13:19
jcastro_dholbach, can you reinvite me?13:20
dholbachdone13:20
dholbachdpm: you're typing13:20
jgdxno13:21
smartboyhwSomeone give me some money to donate to balloons please!!!!!13:21
chilicuilwho has recollected more money so far?13:22
smartboyhwballoons, what are you gonna talk in the next hour?:P13:22
balloonschilicuil, you can see the live updates here: http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/13:22
balloonsatm, jono has collected the most donations13:22
smartboyhwballoons, lol13:22
chilicuilballoons: I'm actually there ;)13:23
smartboyhwballoons, where is the so-called page for the marathon schedule eh?13:23
marrabldand JuJu ?13:24
mptjcastro_, it looks like people might be cranking up the Remote MPT again this UDS13:24
balloonscjohnston, !13:24
smartboyhwWow suddenly those who wanna talk came here13:25
cjohnstonwhy do i have to join another channel13:25
balloonsYAC13:26
balloonsyet another channel13:26
* smartboyhw hates servers:P13:26
cjohnston913:26
cjohnston?13:27
xnoxmpt: how come?! =/13:27
Davieyjcastro_: I am kidding :)13:27
balloonsxnox, howdy mate13:28
xnoxballoons: everything is hoop-la-la =)13:29
cjohnston-4 jcastro_13:29
* smartboyhw wonders where can he see the schedule.....13:30
cjohnstonare we talking me Chris mhall119 ?13:30
\shIt's still crap ;)13:32
smartboyhwWARNING: Don't talk about titanic please.........13:32
* smartboyhw will get angry13:32
mhall119cjohnston: yes13:32
\shThey are planning a sequel of Titanic ... Titanic 2 - Return of Jack and Rose - The Torchwood Special13:34
jcastro_d0od, yo, let's have you on air13:35
nperrycat session :/13:35
zulwhere is this magical wiki?13:37
smartboyhwzul, good question:P13:37
hernan43this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HorsemenMarathonIdeas13:37
marrabldJust abover the charities below the video on marathon.ubuntuonair.com13:37
hernan43represent!13:38
cjohnstonwtf.. sounds like a competition to see how loud oyu all can type13:39
SweetsharkIf you guys are bored, enable https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-quantaltest-20120601 and test the unity menu integration of LibreOffice.13:39
cjohnston"Delete the wiki!" - Jorge Castro, 2010, 2011, 2012 and comming soon in 201313:41
smartboyhwcjohnston, lol13:42
jcastro_:)13:42
cjohnstonmhall119: can you change the comment to "Marking %s as removed"  and propose it against the right branch instead of a new one please?13:43
cjohnstonthough I'm still not sure that we want to mark it as removed if we are doing a -M...13:43
cjohnstonI would think if we are doing a regular import and its missing mark it removed, but if its a -M import, we are probably doing that for a reason, so it shouldn't be marked as removed13:44
da_raviolibtw, kudos to nick for the background-decoration13:44
cjohnston+1 da_ravioli13:44
designbybeckGreetings cool kids!13:44
smartboyhwdesignbybeck, greetings13:44
* cjohnston thinks jono is using a meeting as an excuse for a nap13:47
cjohnstonde Aville IIRC13:48
\shnot true13:49
hernan43it's not so bad13:49
hernan43they start sleeping after a couple of months13:49
\shhalf a year no sleep, and the next 6 months you'll have complaints about:'dad, I want milk now' ;)13:49
chilicuilouch13:49
cjohnstonI'll make sure at 0400 UTC when I get off shift that you guys are still awake13:50
Sweetsharkjono: I would volunteer for an interview later maybe, provided I get this hangout stuff working. Dunno anything interesting to talk about though ...13:50
cjohnstonjcastro_ should charm this13:51
Sweetsharkoh, I just heard "volunteering is almost always a bad idea", hmmm13:51
smartboyhwSweetshark, no it isn't13:51
Sweetsharksmartboyhw: jono just said so on the youtube, it must be true ;)13:53
smartboyhwSweetshark, oh?13:53
Sabpocalypsei agree smart volunteering is wut makes these things possiable its awsome by the people for the people13:54
cjohnstonsee.. i wasnt the only one with that thought13:55
cjohnstonjcastro_, balloons, dholbach, mhall119, while the boss is away, the kids can play13:55
rewritablesudo apt-get remove jono13:56
mhall119cjohnston: does that mean I don't have to work on summit?13:56
jonorewritable, lol13:56
cjohnstonsummit is play13:56
cjohnstonmhall119: push to lp:~mhall119/summit/support-short-slots please13:57
cjohnstonand no13:57
mhall119cjohnston: oh, didn't realized I misspelled13:57
mhall119pushing now13:58
cjohnstonty13:58
Sabpocalypsehahahaaha13:58
marrabldhumble bundle FTW13:59
EnamexWait a minute... How is this related to the stream?14:00
smartboyhwEnamex, it doesn't HAVE to be related to the stream duh:P14:00
jcastro_this is the place you can hang out and chat14:01
jcastro_ask us questions, etc14:01
EnamexI thought they were replying to this channel or sth... Now I'm confused!14:01
cjohnstonuhh14:01
Sabpocalypsechris from summit nice nice14:01
cjohnstoni dunno boooooooout that14:01
Sabpocalypsewhats tht time on gmt14:01
cjohnstonI have to go ride a bike14:01
cjohnstonI have to.. I have to work the game14:02
Sabpocalypseahh sweetness ty ty14:02
zuldate --utc14:02
LaneyNO14:02
Sabpocalypsenaw ontario canada14:02
Laneygmt is the same as utc, bst is utc+114:02
balloonschris bike riding is awesome!14:02
cjohnstonlmnop?14:02
Laneythat is all14:03
cjohnstonballoons: I get paid for it too14:03
cjohnstonballoons: there is a college game here today that I am working..14:03
cjohnstonballoons: get a go pro.. almost as cool14:04
cjohnstonnot live broadcast tho14:04
jimlauJennicam14:04
jcastro_hi jimlau14:05
jimlauwhatup Jorge14:05
balloonswow -- thanks :_)14:05
balloonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Ringley14:05
jcastro_<314:05
balloonspeople remember things14:05
czajkowskialoha14:06
mhall119czajkowski: welcome!14:06
czajkowskiturns out sleeping isn't happening14:07
czajkowskiplaying with my birthday pressies :D14:07
smartboyhwlol14:07
AlanBellany of the community team in London for the release and coming to the party? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2006/detail/14:07
mhall119czajkowski: anything good?14:07
smartboyhwballoons, talk to JoseAntonioR_ about that QA session:14:08
smartboyhw:P14:08
balloonssmartboyhw, good.. he can help14:08
czajkowskimhall119: 1TB external HD that is shock proof and PURPLE :D14:08
JoseAntonioR_balloons: here for 30s, will be back in 4 hours aprox14:09
smartboyhwwhat the14:09
mhall119"shock proof" sounds like a challenge14:09
nperryHave you tested the shock proofness yet?14:09
mhall119I could use one though, I dropped my backup drive a while back and now it's kind of flakey14:09
czajkowskimhall119: military grad e:D14:09
cjohnstonmhall119: bug #1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/103401314:09
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/utah14:10
mhall119czajkowski: nice14:10
czajkowskiyup14:11
czajkowski:D14:11
davmor2mhall119: I found nothing is shockproof given a big enough hammer14:11
\shhow about automatic UI Testing? What are you using?14:13
cjohnstonballoons: ^14:13
czajkowskipoor IS they get such a hard time14:14
\shUI in general...14:14
balloonsautopilot: https://launchpad.net/autopilot14:14
balloonsxpresser: https://launchpad.net/xpresser/14:16
balloonshttp://sikuli.org/14:16
SabpocalypseQ? does ubu 12.04 support raid arrys ?? and if so how can this be done ?14:17
\shthanks :)14:17
mhall119davmor2: nothing id davmor2 proof14:17
* xnox is confused how raid arrays came into conversation.14:18
xnoxyes ubuntu supports raid arrays since forever. but what exactly do you mean?14:18
Sabpocalypsenot sur ehow to set it up14:19
davmor2balloons: only issue I hit with sikuli was installing it on precise there are a couple of updated libs that break the way it works14:19
sebsebsebWhere's the video reloading the marathon page didn't show it hmm14:21
mhall119sebsebseb: it's working for me14:22
sebsebsebok that's better after closing it down and opening the page again14:22
mhall119sebsebseb: what does it show to you?14:22
mhall119ok14:22
sebsebsebso what is this, talks and such, whilst you do your community stuff for 24 hours?14:23
sebsebsebwith donations to charity of course14:24
czajkowskisebsebseb: they work interview people14:24
czajkowskiand have to stay awake :)14:24
czajkowskiand people donate :)14:25
sebsebseboh ok14:25
czajkowskimhall119: make blake come on and entertain us!14:25
sebsebsebmhall119: I think we need some more donations to the Autism charity :d14:25
smartboyhwballoons, you fail:P demo fail:P14:25
mhall119czajkowski: he'll be on later14:25
mhall119:)14:25
czajkowskiYAY14:25
mhall119sebsebseb: definitely, post/tweet about it14:26
sebsebsebthinking about donating myself :d14:26
mhall119do it!14:26
Sabpocalypsethats dope14:26
* xnox once did 24 hours of sport. but it was not aired.14:27
smartboyhwxnox, LOL14:27
* tealeg once did 24 hours of sleep - I dunno if anyone donated, I was asleep14:27
Sabpocalypsehahahaa14:28
chilicuilxD14:28
smartboyhwXD14:28
sebsebsebtealeg: really?14:29
tealegsebsebseb: well.. the sleeping part is true - it wasn't for charity, it was directly after submitting my final thesis at Uni14:29
sebsebseboh I see14:30
Sabpocalypsesleepin14:30
sebsebseblet's see been awake about 36 hours or more before yep, but 24 hours sleep no never, 12 hours or so by the most14:31
designbybeckSo Mark Shuttleworth will be keynote at LinuxCon Europe... is anyone else going to Spain next month!?14:32
smartboyhwWow only 4 people left in the hangout:P14:32
Sabpocalypsedroppin like flys14:32
designbybeckNov 5-8th14:32
cjohnstonmhall119: yes...14:33
designbybeckI won the Linux Foundation design contest! That is how I'm getting to go! :) http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe14:33
cjohnstonvery much so14:33
balloonslol14:33
balloonsi figured out my failed demo14:33
balloonsI blame xnox gema..14:33
cjohnstonyesterday was       horrible14:33
* smartboyhw blames balloons 14:33
Sabpocalypsehhaa14:34
* xnox is confused. what?14:34
balloonsI forgot the script was looking for 'install now' on that install screen, and not continue14:34
\shbooz is expensive in denmark, so be careful ;)14:34
balloonsthere's no error handling yet :-)14:34
balloonsand the bug still exists that says 'continue'14:34
SergioMeneseshello!14:34
balloonschanging it to 'continue' makes it work14:34
balloonshaha14:34
smartboyhwhahaha14:34
* xnox is missing context14:34
balloonsxnox, ohh14:35
xnoxthere is python gtk3 tutorial14:35
balloonsyou missed the demo14:35
balloonsI just demo'd the automated install14:35
smartboyhwxnox, don't worry the demo failed:P14:35
balloonsand it failed at the installation type screen14:36
balloonsbecause the script looks for the 'install now' button on that screen14:36
xnoxand there is gi.repository inspection that can be obused =)14:36
xnox=(14:36
* xnox should really fix that.14:36
balloonsbut the bug still exists that makes it say 'continue'14:36
balloonslol14:36
balloonsI could change the script to allow it to accept etheir...14:36
balloons:-)14:36
smartboyhwballoons, make sure you send that demo code to EVERYBODY14:37
globin1gtk3 docs would be awesome! had a hard time finding some at first14:38
cjohnstonmhall119: what is your opinion of not using -s for slots since normally -s is used for summit14:39
sheikmurphy got a little bit wet14:39
dholbachsheik, I can imagine - were you out when it started raining? :)14:40
mhall119cjohnston: it's not broken, if you want it changed file a new bug14:41
sheikyeah14:41
mhall119but the existing MP shouldn't be blocked byit14:41
toabctlballoons, dpm there is http://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/14:41
globin1it's just starting to rain in munich now too :(14:41
globin1at least got back in time at least14:41
xnoxWELL THERE IS ALWAYS iPython3 <tab> <tab?14:41
xnoxWELL THERE IS ALWAYS iPython3 <tab> <tab>14:41
xnoxfor sniffing gi documentation =)14:42
balloonstoabctl, ty14:42
globin1toabctl: thanks14:42
hippyjakehello all!14:42
smartboyhwhello14:43
xnoxNO Qt!14:43
balloons:-p14:43
* dholbach hugs sheik :)14:43
dholbachsheik, thanks again for taking care of the dog :)14:43
smartboyhwlol14:43
chilicuilhahaha14:43
chilicuilI love how u release they're normal people, very normal people14:44
toabctlhttp://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/tree/demos/gtk-demo is also a good starting point.14:44
da_ravioliwake up jono!14:45
jonoda_ravioli, in a meeting :-)14:45
da_ravioli;-)14:46
tonytigerDaniel, I'd like to know why you are so awesome! ;)14:46
sebsebsebhi tonytiger14:46
designbybeckSo does Ubuntu have something like POSSE From Fedora?14:46
tonytigersebsebseb: hi14:47
dholbachtonytiger, awesome? how? what? what are you talking about? :)14:47
designbybeckDoes Ubuntu have anything like this for Educators: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Professors_Open_Source_Summer_Experience14:47
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* sebsebseb right donations time soon I think :d14:47
tonytigerdholbach: Couldn't think of anything pertinent to ask :)14:47
sheikyou're very wellcome14:48
designbybeckProfessors Open Source Summer Experience14:48
hippyjakemy puls goes to 1114:48
designbybeckPOSSE14:48
SergioMeneses:O14:48
balloonshttp://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE?14:48
designbybeckand for Educators14:48
balloonssummer of code ala redhat style?14:48
designbybeckthe teachers teaching14:48
designbybeckso they can learn about OSS14:48
smartboyhwballoons, know when Ubuntu will start Summer of code applications?:P14:49
SergioMenesesdesignbybeck, something like ubuntu open week14:49
SergioMenesesor user days14:49
SergioMenesesI guess14:49
designbybeckLet's start one ;)14:49
xnoxit's not for students, but for professors to take it back to "uni/school" and teach their own students.14:49
smartboyhwlol14:49
designbybeckcorrect xnox14:49
designbybeckmore method and not programming14:50
balloonsdid I get it now?14:50
sagacidown14:50
smartboyhwhangout stopped guys14:50
balloonsone sec14:50
sebsebsebyep indeed14:50
designbybeckpedagogy  and such about using the Open Source Mindset and tools in the classroom so the students can have the same software as well14:50
jcastro_we're fixing it14:50
xnoxwell in the UK we do it through "Software freedom days" which are usually well attended by local teachers and the like.14:50
xnoxmore of a LoCo task than a global task14:50
xnoxi bet they are doing powernaps14:51
Guest41049Is google hangouts off air?14:51
designbybeckgotcha xnox, how do you combat the IT in the school districts who only know and use M$ stuff?14:51
designbybeckclosed source14:51
=== nik is now known as Guest17435
SergioMenesesis the hangout down?14:51
balloonsyea14:51
smartboyhwyes yes yes jcastro_ is fixing it14:51
balloonswe hit the 4 hour limit14:51
sagaci!isitout14:51
designbybeckyes hangout stopped for me as well14:51
balloonswe're fixing, new stream in a moment14:51
chilicuiln_n14:52
smartboyhw^_^14:52
balloonssad we have 4 hour limits :-(14:52
smartboyhwoh14:52
globin1time to get a cup of coffee ;)14:52
smartboyhwlol14:52
dpmback online in a few minutes14:53
dpmwe're still not going to sleep!14:53
globin1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vds9WEH8qi0&feature=plcp14:53
SergioMenesesdpm, jeje ok14:54
sagaci20hrs of dholbach14:54
SuperMattooh, I've just found a bug (I think it's ubuntu one, but it could be nautilus)14:55
smartboyhwcongrats SuperMatt14:55
SergioMenesesSuperMatt, great14:55
njaWhat did I miss?14:56
snwhso is this 24 hours of each of them in their respective timezones?14:58
snwh-if so there's gonna be a a lot of solo jono towards the end, being in california.14:58
jcastro_no we all started at the same time14:58
chilicuilohhh, I do want the marathon back T_T14:58
jcastro_it's back, you can just refresh the page14:59
zuljcastro: <grizzled miner> back in the day </grizzled miner>15:00
tealegzul: grizzling a minor is illegal in most 12 US States ;-)15:01
dholbachmhall119, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports15:02
dholbachmhall119, might miss some information on your specific case, but it should generally cover how to file the bug and include all the info15:02
dholbachetc15:02
cjohnstonhttps://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/support-short-slots/+merge/127557  <-- needs a commit msg15:05
mhall119cjohnston: fixed15:06
chilicuiland jono is back! =)15:07
jonochilicuil, :-)15:07
cjohnstonty15:07
SergioMeneseslol15:09
denemeehello15:10
SergioMenesesdenemee, hi15:10
chilicuilhe run away haha, SergioMeneses15:12
chilicuilu scare him ;)15:12
SergioMeneseschilicuil, lol15:13
marrabldHow is Juju different to Puppet / Chef ??15:13
akhilaballoons, response of ubuntu desktop is terribly slow on virtualbox. can anything be done about that?15:16
jcastro_marrabld, I'll get to that in a sec15:17
balloonsakhila, yes, the unity team has done some work on trying to make this more pleasant15:17
balloonsthe final version of quantal should be a bit better.. indeed it's come a long way since moving to unity3d only15:18
akhilai'm working with desktop images right now. no effect i guess15:18
akhilaoh, okay15:18
balloonshowever, it's not going to be as responsive as precise which used the 2d interface15:18
akhilaokay15:19
balloonsI imagine this will be an on-going thing as llvmpipe is used to enable 3d on older machines15:19
balloonsor vbox supports 3d better ;-)15:19
akhila:)15:19
balloonsI feel your pain though.. interacting with the dash is the only real pain point for me15:19
balloonsotherwise it generally runs ok now15:19
jcastro_mhall119, can you take over for like 2 minutes?15:19
jcastro_I have to sign something.15:19
\shQ: Speaking of the Cloud: Will Ubuntu/Canonical only support OpenStack or will Ubuntu/Canonical support also other stacks like i.e. CloudStack?15:22
mhall119dholbach: does https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantal-backports/+bug/1061687 look right to you?15:28
marrabldThanks jcastro_15:29
dholbachmhall119, pinging Laney about it15:29
marrabldnice analogy15:29
dholbachmhall119, he said it looks good15:30
mhall119cool15:30
\shjcastro_: how do you deploy the initial juju infrastructure? especially making zookeeper HA?15:33
dholbachmhall119, <Laney> I'll upload it in a minute15:33
mhall119that was fast15:33
mhall119thanks dholbach15:33
akhilanice work balloons et al. sorry i couldn't make any donation as i'm a stay-at-home mom. but appreciate your work thoroughly as it requires noble thoughts and lots of commitment to work for 24 hours non-stop to raise money for charity.15:34
akhilaKudos!!15:34
mhall119akhila: raise your kids to be Ubuntu users :)15:34
balloonsakhila, thank you! I'm glad your involved with ubuntu15:34
dholbachthanks a lot akhila! :)15:34
balloonsthat's a wonderful donation itself ;-)15:34
sebsebsebmhall119: donated :d15:35
dholbachmhall119, mind joining #ubuntu-motu?15:35
mhall119+115:35
mhall119thanks sebsebseb!15:35
dholbachmhall119, <Laney> doesn't it need to bump Depends to the version of libunity which introuced this?15:35
akhilamhall119: Sure :)15:35
akhilathanks balloons.15:36
akhilayou guys rock :)15:36
mhall119stay at home moms rock15:39
mhall119balloons: sebsebseb's donation put be back in front15:40
balloonsmhall119, hah!15:40
mhall119your move :)15:40
balloonslol15:40
balloonsi feel like we're playing chess15:41
mhall119check15:41
sebsebsebmhall119: yep needed to up that :)15:42
sebsebsebget in the £400 's at least15:42
mhall119:)15:42
mhall119thanks again sebsebseb15:42
\shHorsemen, thanks for sharing your day.../me needs to rush to my meetings ;) thanks a lot...rock on..:) good idea folks15:42
davmor2balloons: the youtube video for your automated install the audio is virtually silent here15:50
balloonsdavmor2, reall?15:50
davmor2balloons: never mind I forgot I had me headphone plugged in15:50
balloons:-)15:50
balloonsI snuck it in quickly between hangouts :-)15:51
jonodpm, mhall119 can you guys help promote the next hour to discuss app dev stuff?15:52
dpmyep!15:53
foobar123hello!15:55
mhall119dpm: G+ is done15:56
mhall119FB too15:57
dpmmhall119, posted there too15:57
chilicuilnow I'm leaving, thanks a lot for the marathon =)!, ubuntu rocks for people like u15:57
globin1play some guitar ;)15:59
marrabldPlay some guitar15:59
sebsebsebwell I am going to be donating to the others as well anyway :d a bit15:59
marrabldMaster of puppets \m/15:59
globin1pink noise probably?15:59
JavitoI have just installed 12.10 beta 2 on my pc, number of updates scared me(447) :D15:59
marrabldI don't know which charity to support, they're all good!!!16:00
mhall119marrabld: support them all :)16:00
sebsebsebmarrabld: Autisam Reasearch  :)16:00
balloonspick me! I can give pictures of puppies!16:00
marrabldI can't afford it.16:00
sebsebsebor support all yeah :)16:00
balloons:-P16:00
mhall119+1 Autism Research16:00
sebsebsebmhall119: yeah, but your biased :D heh heh16:00
Javitobrb16:00
mhall119sebsebseb: in so many ways :)16:00
marrablddone !!!16:00
marrabldI am a phd student.16:01
mhall119thanks marrabld16:01
balloonsthanks.. what are you studying?16:01
marrabldPhD physics/Oceanography16:01
mhall119greenpeace then16:02
mhall119or wateraid16:02
* sebsebseb heard Jono typing16:02
sebsebsebI think16:02
dholbachdpm: ł16:03
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess16:04
balloonsmarrabld, oceanography.. awesome field16:07
balloonswhat's your dissertation on (in simple terms)?16:07
JavitoBang, after installing 447 updates for beta 2 it crashed:/16:08
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperNetwork16:10
mhall119is the spec for what he's talking about now16:10
dholbachjcastro_, added the info about refreshing the webpage16:11
jcastro_looks awesome!16:11
balloonsJavito, what happened?16:12
imbrandonharnes sublime edits snipits, its pushed hard in the web dev and design community now where what commmunity lives ( on OSX )16:12
balloonsdid you update from an earlier installed version of ubuntu>16:12
designbybeckKazam has come along nicely and allows you to open the video up in OpenShot or Pitivi right after you are don't editing16:12
balloonsJavito, or where you install from scratch?16:12
jcastro_OMG16:12
jcastro_is that the other holbach?16:12
jcastro_have him do one of those photos16:12
dholbachjcastro_, yes - it's my brother16:13
dholbachjcastro_, he just found a job in Berlin16:13
jcastro_oh that is awesome16:13
dholbachand so he's staying with me for a few days16:13
dholbachuntil he finds a new place16:13
jcastro_He looks like you16:13
jcastro_but with different hair16:13
JavitoI have installed beta 2 on my new pc, all was going good, but after doing updates it won't start system16:13
dholbachbut he said that he might have already found one16:13
Javitosomething with X16:13
dholbachjcastro_, more hair16:13
jcastro_and fuzzier eyebrows16:13
imbrandonsandboxing16:16
dpmhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess16:16
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess16:16
dpmlol16:17
dholbachjcastro_, Thomas says HI :)16:17
JavitoIs only  python work to study for Ubuntu App Dev?16:19
jonoalright folks16:19
jonoplease hit one of those DONATE buttons16:19
mhall119Javito: many languages are supported, Python is just easy so we recommend it16:19
jonowe want to hit 3000 English pounds in the next hour16:19
jonocan anyone donate?16:19
mhall119if you can't donate, post the link to Facebook or twitter and encourage others to donate16:20
dpmhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess#Proposed_Solution16:20
davmor2balloons: what is the voodoo you used to power the installer testing16:23
balloonsdavmor2, something I hacked together using xlib and python16:23
balloonsmostly it was me trying out my ideas on how I think it should work16:24
balloonsand seeing the success of failure of it16:24
davmor2balloons: did you try xpresser?16:24
balloonsI've got to prototype the next step of completely automating it (including loading up the vm)16:24
balloonsdavmor2, there are things I disliked about xpresser, and I did try it16:24
jono155 pounds to go in 35 mins...16:25
balloonsas far as where it ends up, it's python.. I could incoporate my stuff into xpresser, but how the script works is different enough to break the paradigm16:25
jonowe can do this! can anyone help with a donation?16:26
davmor2balloons: it's not working for me in quantal at all at the moment so I can understand why :D /me reminds myself to go annoy cwayne about that again :)16:26
balloonsdavmor2, are you interested in seeing the script?16:26
jonodpm, coming back?16:26
marrabldballoons:  sorry, I use the 'color' of the ocean to predict how much phytoplankon is in the water, also rudimentary species identification of phyto.  Furthermore, sediment mapping.16:26
dpmjono, ah16:26
dpmdidn't realize16:26
dpmtrying to reconnect16:26
jonodpm, lol16:27
dpmthere I was rambling on to myself...16:27
balloonsmarrabld, ahh.. yes, the 'glowing water' phenomenon, which is really phtoplankton16:27
balloonsala, bioluminescent plankton16:28
elfyjcastro_: I've stuck that thread in the cafe - hope that helps16:28
jcastro_<316:28
balloonsso marrabld just a question, does the presence of certain plankton tell you about the 'health' of the water?16:28
marrabldballons: um not quite my field.  I use the pigments they create for photosynthesis.  Basically  if its greener, there's more phyto.  if its murky its sediment.16:29
elfyjcastro_: you might also like to know that while the Archive is still visible - it's a lot less prominent than it was16:29
marrabldballoons:  yes and also if it is cyanobacteria (blue-green) it can be toxic16:29
jcastro_nod yeah I noticed that16:29
marrabldso its a management issue if we can identify it early16:29
jcastro_speaking of, time to check on the forum vbulletin upgrade!16:30
balloonslovely stuff.. how much 'field time' to you get?16:30
marrabldballoons:  Also where I live in Western Australia we have lots of coast line.  We need to monitor with satellites.16:30
* balloons would love to be on the ocean everyday16:30
jcastro_mhall119, hey so16:30
jcastro_why not just get zack on the air for a while?16:30
balloonsmarrabld, ahh! great location for the research16:30
marrabldballoons:  I get to go out to sea for a month at a time a few times a year16:30
dholbachthanks a lot marrabld too!16:30
mhall119to talk about what?16:30
cielakhello! :)16:30
* dholbach hugs marrabld16:31
marrabldKimbery16:31
marrabldThanks guys  :-)16:31
dholbach:-)16:31
dholbachthis is awesome16:31
balloonsyes -- ty marrabld :-) I see your donation16:31
jcastro_\o/16:31
marrabld\ME blushes16:31
jonod0od, around?16:31
jonothanks marrabld for your donation!16:32
jonoif we hit 3000 you get Master Of Puppets on guitar :-)16:32
sebsebsebdonated to two already, a few more to go16:32
imbrandonrock!16:32
marrabldjono: no probs.16:32
jonosebsebseb, thanks!16:32
jono2917.45!16:33
nperryI heard cyan message ringtone...16:33
jonogetting closer!16:33
* balloons blushes..16:33
jonothe clock ticks...16:33
jono25 mins :-)16:34
marrabldballoons: Have you been involved in oceanography or just a field of interest?16:34
imbrandonjcastro_: where's my noodles ? :)16:34
jcastro_:p16:34
jcastro_hey, send me some bling yo16:34
imbrandonwhat ya want ? blitz and ?16:34
jcastro_pingdom?16:34
imbrandonhit me up after the on air and i'll hook ya up16:35
imbrandonkk16:35
jcastro_cool16:35
jcastro_or just send everything16:35
jcastro_and I'll figure it out16:35
jcastro_or make stuff up if I don't get it16:35
imbrandonkk :)16:35
imbrandonand MoP :)16:35
marrabld\m/ :-O \m/16:36
balloonsmarrabld, as you see from my charity choice, I'm a fan of water :-)16:36
marrabldballoons:  If you ever visit Western Australia, go to Broome and the Kimberly region.  I promise you wont regret it.16:37
balloonsso it's an interest; i've never studied.. But I love the ecosystems that contribute to the ocean as well. I've not gotten to spend as much time on the water itself as I would have liked16:37
balloonsmarshes, tidal rivers, etc16:37
balloonsI grew up living next to an fresh water estuary16:37
balloonsmarrabld, noted16:38
tenachHello.16:38
balloonsAustrailia and New Zealand are places I must get to at some point16:38
marrabldIf you like water.  We have beaches and rivers.  not too much else though :-P *sarcasm*16:39
marrabldNZ is also fantastic16:39
balloonsmarrabld, I also like kitebuggying on beaches16:39
balloonsI hear western aussie is excellent for that :-)16:39
imbrandonwepay please! paypal is evil16:39
marrabldballoons: Yes we just hosted the world wind surfing here.  We have a really consistent Westerly breeze and lots of empty beach space.   Fun for kite surfing too.16:40
jonoimbrandon, just use your credit card16:40
imbrandonno no i mean what he is talking about, i already donated16:40
jonocool :-)16:40
jono£ 2942.4516:41
jonogetting closer!16:41
tenach:D!16:41
jonowe are too close to let us fail16:42
tenachIs there a way to convert to usd?16:42
jonotenach, xe.com16:42
balloonsmarrabld, :-)16:42
tenachthanks jono16:42
sebsebseband I'll be donating to all of them soon :)16:45
dholbach£ 2993.4516:46
dholbachjust 7 pounds left16:46
tenachJust donated. :D16:46
designbybeckrefresh! ;)16:47
marrabldoh yea16:47
sebsebsebright well I am about to donate to another one so :d16:47
zulmeh rush16:47
czajkowskiDONE16:48
czajkowskidonated16:48
czajkowskirefresh16:48
tenachCONGRATS! :D16:49
czajkowskidanit is I should have donated to not have the guitar!16:49
dholbachROCK ROCK ROCK16:49
cielakcongrats guys!16:49
imbrandonlol16:49
d0odDamn! I wanted to be the 3000 topper16:49
imbrandoni just did one to jcastro_'s16:49
balloonsamazing!16:49
imbrandond0od !!!16:49
balloonsawesome work everyon!16:49
jcastro_\o/16:49
tenach\o/16:50
bobweavergood job all !16:50
czajkowskiROFLOL16:50
czajkowskicheeky marrabld16:50
czajkowskimhall119:16:50
imbrandonhaha16:50
* czajkowski high fives jcastro_ !16:50
imbrandonin the what ?16:51
designbybeckthanks for the translation16:51
designbybeckYeah i donated to Nick and WaterAid because we don't have much in West Texas16:51
designbybeckand I know how important it is and how many of us take it for granted16:52
balloons<3 Texas16:52
balloonsvery cool state.. rock on!16:52
designbybecko/16:52
DaemonicApathyI would like to thank everyone for not choosing PETA as a donation recipient.16:52
designbybeckwell Austin, Texas is ;) some of west Texas not so much ;)16:52
designbybeckagreed DaemonicApathy16:52
d0odJust dropped some cash for balloons cause16:53
snap-lmhall119: You import Michiganinans16:53
balloonsthank you d0od!16:53
imbrandonits not a sport, its 3 activties happening at one time , ice scating , boxing, and playing withg a puck ... yall not ever hear carlin ?16:53
zullalalal not listening16:53
da_raviolican't we just crack one of nick's balloons now?16:53
balloonssure16:53
tenachjcastro_: Exactly haha16:54
snap-lhttps://picasaweb.google.com/117777908934895049975/Rush2012?authkey=Gv1sRgCOuqp8yVwKWmag <- Rush fans16:54
snap-lhttp://www.ecardtricks.com/mr1.htm <- card tricks16:56
DaemonicApathyAnyone good at cardless card tricks?16:56
czajkowskidholbach: the word is feck feck feck feck feck feck :)16:56
imbrandonfrack!16:56
balloonsczajkowski, lol16:57
DaemonicApathyThanks, now 'buffalo' doesn't seem like a real word anymore.16:57
dholbachhaha16:57
marrabldyep16:57
dholbachimbrandon, we don't like no fracking :)16:57
snap-lOh, if the slap-happy is this level, it'll be at 11 later.16:57
imbrandonyup16:57
marrablddefinately16:57
marion1739Wonder why aps like Webcam Studio do not work in versions 12.04 or 12.10 beta16:57
snap-ljono: BTW: Note the shirt in those Rush photos.16:58
snap-lOh, lovely... auto level correction16:58
czajkowskijcastro_: refresh :p16:58
balloonsyea16:58
imbrandonwhere is your bass jcastro_ ? heh16:58
sebsebsebJono is playing rather quite it seems16:58
DaemonicApathyI'm rocking out by sight.16:59
marrabld*windmilling*16:59
balloonsshould have put it on studio mode16:59
balloonswhoops16:59
tenachHeh.16:59
\shoh metal time :)17:00
sebsebsebthis is the most quiest I have heard JOno play17:00
sebsebsebonline17:00
DaemonicApathyOne must be courteous of one's neighbors, sebsebseb. ;-)17:00
sebsebsebDaemonicApathy: hmm?17:00
DaemonicApathyHence, quiet metal rage session. ;-p17:01
marrabldgreat work \m/  you down tuned17:01
sebsebsebok so quite for you lot to?17:01
DaemonicApathyYup.17:01
tenachYeah, it was.17:01
DaemonicApathyStill, worth turning up the volume for.17:01
tenachTotally!17:01
czajkowski #ubuntu-meeting is where the CC is on17:01
dholbachthanks so much sebsebseb! :)17:02
* dholbach hugs sebsebseb17:02
DaemonicApathyI'd like to buy the walrus.17:02
GreatDantonwalrus FTW!17:02
GreatDanton:)17:03
marrabldlol17:03
DaemonicApathyHello, dholbach's...brother?17:04
cjohnstonWho is this Chris Johnston guy you guys keep talking about17:04
czajkowskimhall119: you adding the LC to the timetable17:05
mhall119czajkowski: it's on the schedule, just not the page17:05
czajkowskiah ok17:06
DaemonicApathyCongrats!17:06
\shwhat picture do you americans have from the germans...;)17:07
bobweaverROTFLOL17:07
sheikdelicious pizza @ holbach sonnenallee w/ felix, greets!!17:07
DaemonicApathyHeadlocks = more money, in my experience. ;-)17:07
* cjohnston is ready for a nap17:09
kamil_Hi17:09
kamil_Hey Daniel, Miichael, btw why are you guys messing with the sound effects? :)17:10
DaemonicApathyThey're bored.17:10
imbrandonoh noes, it turns into #ubuntus-got-tallent with simon cowell17:10
d0odimbrandon: lol ;)17:10
DaemonicApathyimbrandon, excellent idea! Karaoke time!17:10
kamil_Nick has a part setup going it seems17:11
balloonskamil_, I do :-)17:11
balloonsthere's fun stuff in the balloons17:11
kamil_Also that Jono taking about Barbeque , and no one was interested. That was awesome Michael :D17:11
d0odwhat happened to 24 hours of work?!17:11
\shjcastro_: damn you ... no beer in the office here :( need to buy some17:11
imbrandonHAHAHAHA17:11
kamil_d0od: :/ :D17:12
jonod0od, did you post?17:12
kamil_jono: Yeah, he is asking why aren't you all working? :-)17:12
jonokamil_, we are :-)17:12
jonowe just have fun jobs17:12
kamil_:D17:13
kamil_jono: I know brother.17:13
jono:-)17:13
czajkowskiballoons: may nwant to clarify it's a different community council not the ubuntu community council :)17:14
kamil_That is a great thing to happen, get into some awesome company by mistake :D17:14
DaemonicApathyCarlos: Thank you for the bugs! Some of them are downright entertaining. ^_^17:15
kamil_Rocking the chair, viewers will get a headache(sorry), Carlos has a great chair btw :-)17:15
d0odI'm officially #TeamCarlos17:16
\shOnly a dead bug is a good bug ;)17:16
jcastro_hey d0od, you should come on!17:16
DaemonicApathyI disagree, /sh. I like the bugs that completely mess with new users, that experienced ones accidentally fix for themselves right away.17:16
jcastro_also, *cough* spread the word that we're hanging out here if people want to ask questions, and so on17:17
jcastro_also, I would like a pony17:17
kamil_jcastro_: Sure doing that17:17
d0odjcastro_: You described me as "a small bundle of britishness" earlier. Totally making that my Twitter bio.:P17:17
jcastro_indeed17:18
DaemonicApathyAt the risk of showing my Minecraft roots too much, I'm particularly fond of the term "Tea Eater".17:18
d0odjcastro_: I'll be around for a while, so if things get dead/weary later I don't mind jumping on to interrogate/ask questions or whatever17:18
jcastro_awww yeah!17:18
mhall119cjohnston isn't going to be available for the next hour17:19
mhall119so I can talk more about the API Website instead17:19
kamil_I have a question regarding the whopsie daisy thing, don't you think that casual users will get frustrated by it?17:20
jonod0od, we definitely want you on17:20
jonod0od, hey, how about you interview the team in our Q+A?17:21
jonoOMG! Ubuntu! interviews the Canonical Community Team17:21
jcastro_yeah!17:21
kamil_Now on the 12.04.1 it doesn't happen as much as it happened at the time of 12.0417:21
jonoand you can ask all the hard questions17:21
jonod0od, but get your post online to promote it and the wider marathon :-)17:21
jcastro_indeed.17:21
jcastro_help get us over 10k pounds! :)17:22
d0odif you all stop being watchable for 15mins I'll get on and finish it :P17:22
jonowe can do 10k today17:22
jonoI know it17:22
imbrandonyes they do ... everyone i know ask me to turn them damn things off17:22
jonod0od, can you join us for the full hour?17:22
kamil_I don't mind them, but a noob will find it confusing.17:22
marrabldI find the pop ups irritating.  I can get a cascade of them pop up sometimes17:22
d0odjono: What time is the Q&A?17:22
kamil_Yeah, popups17:22
jonod0od, it will be at 9pm your time17:22
d0odYeah sure :)17:23
jonod0od, lets do some promo around it17:23
jonod0od, awesome!17:23
bobweaverI would like it (woopsie) if they told me why I need to enter password befor I do17:23
bobweaverbefore *17:23
jonod0od, can you post ASAP on OMG about it17:23
balloonshttps://errors.ubuntu.com/17:23
kamil_Because it reminds of Windows(sorry)17:23
balloonsif you've not seen it: https://errors.ubuntu.com/17:23
jonod0od, feel free to put together a set of tough questions from us - maybe gather them from the omg crowd17:23
bobweaverI mean anything could be asking for a password (cracker)17:24
bobweaverI always like to know why I am entering password17:24
kamil_Excellent point by Carlos17:24
kamil_bobweaver: your system info will be gathered afaik17:25
bobweaverYeah I know but . what if cracker sends to me ect17:25
bobweaverI should know why I am entering password I will file bug17:25
bobweaverwhat is woopsie daisy name ?17:26
balloonshttp://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/09/getting-your-bug-fixed-art-of-bug.html17:26
bobweaverfor ubuntu-bug woopsie17:26
imbrandoncalll your 11 year old son17:27
imbrandon:)17:27
balloonswhoopsie is the crash reporting database17:27
balloonsyou can see the frontend on errors.ubuntu.com17:27
imbrandonask!17:27
kamil_Bug filing is super simple, I was 1 week or so to Ubuntu 10.10, upgraded to 11.04, messed with Compiz, filed my first bug. :D17:27
balloonsit collects crash data from people's ubuntu installations17:27
bobweaverhttp://imagebin.org/23090217:28
kamil_Yeah, askubuntu/IRC work best for this.17:28
imbrandonpebkac17:28
kamil_Also the Precaution on Compiz is an excellent move. That stuff is dangerous17:29
kamil_Where is castro going17:30
marrabldMost of my mates go straight to Google and often they get tacken to out dated or bad advice.17:30
jcastro_kamil_, I am going to get food. :)17:30
tenachFood is good.17:31
jcastro_I am going to make some sandwiches17:31
kamil_jcastro_ has a beautiful youtube video on it17:31
kamil_the wiki one17:31
kamil_:D17:31
pistmanhi all17:32
tenachHallo.17:32
kamil_dholbach: Smoking is injurious to health but you may already know about it17:32
pistmancould somebody name a C sharp developer for linux?17:32
dholbachkamil_, yes, I was told before :)17:32
kamil_jono: There is a mess among some people on this issue17:33
kamil_many people claim crazy stuff. :-)17:33
pistmanhm17:33
mhall119pistman: a person?17:33
pistmanpls help17:33
pistmanno17:34
pistmanapplication17:34
pistmanfor linux17:34
pistmanlike monodevelop17:34
mhall119you mean an application for writing C# code?17:34
pistmancuz it cannot compile normally17:34
pistmanye17:34
mhall119monodevelop is the most popular, I think17:34
kamil_One thing, how is the Ubuntu moving forward on the performance front, and what happens to Compiz17:34
mhall119you can use any text editor though17:35
imbrandonmonodevelop works fine on linux17:35
pistmanbut it cannot run my programs and write results17:35
pistmanand no input messages17:35
bobweaverpistman,  mono-mcs is installed ?17:35
d0odWhat is Jorge doing…17:35
mhall119making sandwiches17:35
\shRock On OpenNMS :) Best enterprise monitoring solution ever17:35
d0odIs that a chicken or a lettuce?17:35
mhall119lettuce it looks like17:36
* mhall119 has never seen chicken peeled17:36
pistmanit is installed17:36
kamil_The peformance on a same machine, Unity(Compiz)<Gnome-Shell/KDE(and the rest of the DEs)17:36
pistmanbut not working normally17:36
d0odjono: Can I use the "rockstar" photo of you and your team in my post?17:36
philballew3482.57 British pounds sterling = 5629.5744 US dollars17:37
pistmanI need another alternative17:37
dakerd0od: cooking...17:37
czajkowskimhall119: I was about to say you'r other half puts everyone to shame!17:37
imbrandond0od: yea , that is thw one i would use17:37
d0oda tofu surprise?!17:37
mhall119czajkowski: she does :)17:37
pistmanidea?17:38
czajkowskiI want corn bread17:38
kamil_11:07 PM here India17:38
czajkowskioh and tater tots17:38
\shjono: you have the better weather :)17:38
mhall119czajkowski: you have to come back over for a visit17:38
kamil_mhall119: Cooking-On-Air17:38
czajkowskijono: shave your semi beard and see how much you get or it to go17:38
czajkowski*for17:38
d0odczajkowski: Ha!17:39
snwhyou guys could start a telethon :P17:39
kamil_What all gets him more donation :D17:39
mhall119snwh: this *is* our telethon17:39
czajkowskijono: go on......17:39
imbrandonbeard!17:39
czajkowskijono gets to 2K by tomrrow17:39
czajkowskiand he shaves it17:39
kamil_Keep a full beard on the contrary17:39
tenachhahaha17:39
imbrandonaq needs to get in on it too17:39
imbrandonjono: ^^17:40
tenachDeli mustard always makes sandwiches better, jcastro_17:40
imbrandonmake the ginger shave :)17:40
d0odjono: DING! New headline in the works now :P17:40
czajkowskijono: whoooooooooooooo17:40
kamil_:D17:41
jonod0od, feel free to add it to the post17:41
jonoif I get 3k to my charity by the end of the event, I will shave it off live on air17:41
czajkowski*evilgrin*17:41
balloonsnice!17:41
jono:-)17:41
sebsebsebI made Jono's be £1000 or more :)17:41
jono:-)17:42
balloonsanyone interested in hair dye?17:42
czajkowskijono: best idea I've had all day!17:42
kamil_There is messy system, where mic settings , switch back and fourth between front and rear mic17:42
cjohnstonmhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/rm-rf/+merge/12807817:43
kamil_jcastro_: jono is milking his poularity17:43
imbrandonturduckin17:43
kamil_And we will make the viewers hungry in this session17:43
philballewim hungry now17:43
kamil_:D17:44
mhall119l/w 4217:44
kamil_David is hungry, I can see17:44
mikhasthe website is breaking because the donations exceed £1.000, and that's too long for the given space near the donation banners17:44
imbrandonso instead of dholbach's bro telling on him, how about you each tell one on each other in the time that you've been horsemen17:45
dholbachHAHA17:45
mikhasfix: A) stop donations, B) move donated amount to someone else, C) ???17:45
kamil_BTW what system are you using currently?17:45
czajkowskiimbrandon: nice idea!17:46
sebsebsebI wonder why it doesn't show the amouts where it should on the page anymore17:46
cjohnstonthe page looks fine to me17:47
imbrandonlooks fine here17:47
tenachThe page works fine for me.17:47
imbrandonin chrome on osx17:47
sebsebsebyep in FIrefox messed up17:47
tenachChromium in Linux here, and it's fine.17:47
balloonsfearfox :-)17:47
imbrandonwho's dogs ?17:47
dakeri think it's dholbach's dog :)17:47
dholbachno no17:48
balloonssince we can't blame jcastro_.. blame dholbach17:48
balloons:-)17:48
dholbachthe dog is at my sister's and her boyfriend17:48
kamil_On my side the donation page looks like, jono is teasing jcastro_ with is 1K mark and has pushed him to side http://i.imgur.com/yuGl9.png17:48
dakerah :)17:48
czajkowskijcastro_: dear gods what size drink is that!17:49
mhall119czajkowski: US Small17:49
jcastro_I am just getting started.17:49
tenachmhall119: hahahaha17:49
czajkowskidear gods17:49
imbrandonRide the Lightning!17:49
cjohnstondinosaurs!17:50
cjohnstonjcastro_: ^17:50
jcastro_heh17:50
imbrandonjcastro_: was anyone at DjangoCon ?17:51
bobweaverQuestion: what made you all do this ? who's Idea was it ? is the 1st time its happened ? will it happen again ?17:51
cjohnstonI'll donate to see him shave his head17:52
cjohnstonjcastro_: ^17:52
mikhasbobweaver, check out the livestream, are you *sure* you want it to happen again? ;-)17:52
cjohnstonno.. jono shave his17:52
kamil_Sir Bobby Charlton has a awesome combover that never worked17:52
kamil_had*17:53
cjohnstonballoons: ^^17:53
bobweaverJust wanted to get more info Think that it is a cool thing that is all17:53
jvrbanac:D17:53
imbrandon.donate-button img { width: 250 }17:53
cjohnstonyou could look like the baby will :-)17:53
snwhdonate to see dpm shave his ;)17:53
JoseeAntonioRhi all!17:53
tenachHallo JoseeAntonioR17:53
Davieywhat hair?17:53
balloonshello!17:53
neuroJONO STILL KNOWS WHAT "QUID" MEANS! SHOCKER!17:53
tenachneuro: +117:53
dpmsnwh, it'd take a LOT of money for that! ;-)17:54
imbrandonthis should fix the css , quick hack ,   .donate-button img { width: 250 }17:54
dakera quick fix dholbach put 1.39k17:54
neurohello mister beardy man!17:54
imbrandondholbach: ^^17:54
dholbachimbrandon, mhall119 is helping me out right now17:54
dakeryes that's should work too dholbach17:54
neurojono: have you ever said "frisco"?17:54
kamil_Yeah I using Ffox17:54
snwhit was briefly skewed in chrome17:55
neurohaha17:55
neuroi don't believe you :)17:55
neuroPO-TAY-TOE17:55
DavieyNick is almost at a monkey.17:55
kamil_What do say it then jono ?17:55
cjohnstonbut you will say that tomato is a vegitable JoseeAntonioR17:55
cjohnstonjono: ^17:55
cjohnstonsorry JoseeAntonioR17:55
JoseeAntonioRnp :P17:55
mikhasthis would have never happened with good old <table> websites17:55
imbrandonhangout just went offait "(17:55
neuroHANGOUT FAIL17:55
kamil_It ended abruptly17:55
imbrandonoffair17:55
\shgone17:56
jcastro_restarting17:56
jonowe are coming back17:56
balloonsfail.. coming back17:56
jvrbanacsadness17:56
sebsebsebwent down again17:56
snwhjust the mention of Chuck Short17:56
tenachXD17:56
kamil_You all have a good day brothers, late here, I will be taking your leave now.17:57
dholbachballoons, is starting the hangout - we'll be back in a bit17:57
neuro"The live recording you're trying to play is still being processed by our cluster of Acorn Electrons and Commodore VIC-20s and will be available soon."17:57
snwhare all of these going to be available later on Youtube, like the earlier QA stuff, I missed the beginning?17:57
JoseeAntonioRsnwh: yep17:58
snwhJoseeAntonioR awesome17:58
=== JoseeAntonioR changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to the 24-hour Canonical Community Team Marathon! || http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ || Donate on the webpage, let's help! || Remember to refresh your browser at 22, 2 and 6 UTC for the new hangout || We're starting soon, so stay tuned
jvrbanacIt's back!18:01
jvrbanac^its18:01
jvrbanac^it's lol!18:01
balloonsyay18:01
jcastro_yay!18:01
dholbachyes18:01
jvrbanacyep18:01
neuroWHEN YOU HAVE MADE A DONATION, YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO STREAM.18:01
dholbachalright, got to restart my machine18:01
dholbachBRB18:01
=== JoseeAntonioR changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to the 24-hour Canonical Community Team Marathon! || http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/ || Donate on the webpage, let's help! || Remember to refresh your browser at 22, 2 and 6 UTC for the new hangout
d0odo/18:03
snwhWill jono share the brisket rub source code?18:04
dholbachmhall119, dpm, jcastro_, jono, balloons: can you see people's videos?18:05
neurocompost for the win!18:05
dholbachI just see people's logos18:05
dpmdholbach, I can see them18:05
dholbachahhhhh18:05
dholbachI'm logged in as ubuntu on air18:06
dholbachbrb18:06
inetproThe live recording that you're trying to play is still being processed and will be available soon.18:06
inetprogood evening18:06
JoseeAntonioRinetpro: reresh the page :)18:06
tenachinetpro: I just refreshed ant it works now18:06
inetproahh, thanks18:07
inetpronice job guys!18:08
neuro\o/18:08
* \sh heads home now...good job Community team :) Great Event :) And still is...so have a good day, night, afternoon :) 18:08
neuroa nice purple score for you, sir18:08
neuroalthough there's not much beard to shave :(18:08
neuroDO THE SIDEBURNS TOO!18:09
sebsebsebstill down here18:09
sebsebsebthe video18:09
jcastro_hit ctrl-f518:09
neuroJONO DOG FAIL18:09
snwhdogs barking, jono has to get the ribs somewhere..18:10
snwhI joke18:10
=== d0od_ is now known as d0od
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperNetwork18:11
bobweavermhall119,  can I get xml ? from this api ?18:13
robbiehello world!18:17
bobweaversweet Xmllistmodel18:18
bkerensahmm18:18
bobweaverthat is why I ask18:18
bobweaverhttp://doc.qt.digia.com/4.7.1/qml-xmllistmodel.html18:18
jvrbanaco/18:18
bobweaverthen could make a ascronistic interface18:18
neurowhen dholbach lights up a smoke, i feel i must too18:19
bobweaverThanks mhall11918:19
robbieHow can I learn what you guys are doing?18:19
bobweaveryeah I can use json18:19
dholbachneuro, I start getting tired and felt that standing outside with a cigarette should help :)18:19
* popey waves18:19
neurodholbach: :)18:20
neuropopey: hola senor18:20
robbiecool thank you18:20
neurodholbach: i'm lazy, i smoke indoors18:20
jvrbanachttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website18:20
popeylol, jono sparking up the bbq?!18:20
jvrbanachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperNetwork18:20
snwhd0od - nice use of "barmy" in the OMG article ;) (which is here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntus-24-hour-community-charity-marathon-is-happening-right-now)18:20
neuroI CARE NOT ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES!18:20
bobweavermhall119,  on the site there is pictures of up and cpmmi g interface do you gimp file ?18:20
neurohehe i love the wordy barmy18:21
bobweaverso I can use qmlexporter  >18:21
mhall119bobweaver: no, I made them in balsamiq, I have the source XML from that, and pngs18:21
snwhneuro: Joey's diction is half the entertainment :)18:22
robbieHow often do you guys work on ubuntu?18:22
bobweavercould you email me that ?18:22
majster-plDavid need new microphone :)18:22
bobweaverlp ~josephjamesmills18:22
neurosnwh: absolutely :)18:22
popeyis dholbach outside!?18:22
neuroonly us UKers can speaka da english the way what we do18:22
popeyahhh, fag break18:22
neuropopey: yeah, he's having a fag :)18:22
popey:)18:23
neuroas am i18:23
bkerensajcastro_: lots of sun here in Oregon right now too... that doesnt look like a smoker :) looks like a BBQ18:23
bkerensa;p18:23
JoseeAntonioRI challenge any of you guys to convince alanbell to move meetingology to Limnoria18:23
neurojono: \m/18:23
neurobkerensa: jono is bbqing, dholbach was smoking18:24
popeyi have meetings with my co-workers at canonical on hangouts every day.. why am i watching my co-workers now!18:24
dpmthanks for the post d0od!18:24
neuropopey: oh yeah, remember that sysadmin job i applied for at canonical?18:24
popeyoh yeah?18:24
neuropopey: i got the knockback :P18:24
popey:(18:24
popeysorry dude18:24
mhall119bobweaver: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/api-website/18:24
bkerensad0od: whats up dude18:24
bkerensa;018:24
neuropopey: it happens, sadly18:25
* popey hugs d0od 18:25
bobweaverthanks mhall119  I will look into the qt part well qml and make interface18:25
neurono clue why i was knocked back though, just a stock "your application was unsuccessful" sadly18:25
neurojono: BURN STUFF!18:25
mhall119bobweaver: there's a few things at the bottom that we need to fix to support Qt APIs18:25
mhall119at the bottom of the spec that is18:26
d0odpopey: Are you hugging me cos you know i'm clawing through every single bug report so I can write up on Unity 6.8? ;)18:26
JoseeAntonioRjcastro_: why don't you update the wordpress install at ubuntuonair.com in the meanwhile? :)18:26
neuropopey: maybe i should hassle jono and find out what happened ;)18:26
cgoldberghello marathoners... cool idea :)18:26
snwhI'd like to know what jono is using to smoke18:26
jcastro_JoseeAntonioR, I can't, my box with the ssh keys is packed up, I should have it today though18:26
jcastro_<-- amateur18:26
JoseeAntonioRoh, ok then!18:26
d0odjono - your tee is all kinds of awesome18:26
popeyd0od, seen the changelog?18:26
d0odpopey: Yeah, going through it now. Sounds like it'll be a big performance boon18:27
snwhjono - sounds good18:27
popeylol jcastro_18:27
popey"That's where meat will go"18:27
d0odI'll avert my eyes for this bit….18:27
popey<punchline>18:27
marrabldI have to catch a flight from Perth Western Australia to Scotland UK.  Thanks for keeping awake and amuzed guys!!18:28
neurojcastro_: lol18:28
popeyhehe18:28
* popey is cooking18:28
neurojcastro_: jono and aq are probably better educators18:28
JoseeAntonioReveryone wants to see popey cooking18:28
popey"Cooking with Jono"18:29
neuroGOOD GOD, HOW MUCH MEAT IS THAT18:29
mhall1193 racks of ribs18:29
neurosomeone tell jono to move the laptop/camera a bit18:29
popeyis jono planning to feed the internet tonight?18:29
neuroLESS WORKTOP, MOAR MEAT18:30
newbie|3How many people is he cooking ribs for??18:30
mhall119218:30
bobweaverhttp://www.dinosaurbarbque.com/store/product/8_cajun_foreplay_spice_rub   << best rub I know of18:30
neurothe membrane is where the taste lives18:30
mhall119neuro: no, the taste lives in the bone18:31
mhall119bone and far18:31
snwhpaper towel is great for skinning chicken18:31
mhall119fat18:31
neurothat's the secondary taste18:31
tenachThose ribs...18:31
tenachIt's lunchtime here and i can't leave yet, and those ribs aren't helping!18:31
snwhcan I suggest my rib rub :) - sweet (or smoked) paprika, cayenne, brown sugar, garlic, salt, pepper, oregano, chili powder, cumin18:31
neuroCOME ON MEMBRANE!18:31
snwhthat membrane is insane18:31
bobweaveris jono looking at cooking lens j/k   :)18:31
tenachhahaha18:31
neurosnwh: ba dum tsh18:31
tenachbobweaver: hahah18:31
mhall119snwh: I put a spoon full of espresso-ground coffee in mine to,but otherwise the same as yours18:32
neuroDO NOT NOT BROADCAST!18:32
balloonslol18:32
snwhmhall119 - never occured to me, I have espresso marinaded steak18:32
balloonsall this food on air :-)18:33
neuromhall119: so in other words, not suitable for a mormon vegetarian?18:33
tenachWooo!18:33
snwhit's great; as a foodie and ubuntu-ie18:33
mhall119neuro: not really suitable for anybody18:33
mhall119:)18:33
neurohehe18:33
Yasirhello18:33
novatillaskuNobody is going to order a pizza?18:33
mhall119novatillasku: that was my lunch18:33
neuroWATCH AS DHOLBACH MAKES NOODLES!18:34
dholbachnot noodles18:34
popeyhang on18:34
neuroTO WHAT?18:34
popeyi am watching people watching people watching people rip skin off meat18:34
popeythats a new internet high for me18:34
dholbachit's going to be channa korma18:34
dholbachvegan even18:34
neuroyou guys should try mongolian food, awesome18:35
d0oddholbach: +118:35
snwhdholbach +1 for korma18:35
novatillasku:-) Time to dine in Spain.18:35
popeyshow us the dungeon jono!18:35
balloonsenjoy whatever your eating, wherever your doing it :-)18:35
neuronovatillasku: TAPAS!18:36
bobweaverneed to cook that  membrane for that dog that was barking18:36
* neuro is addicted to patatas bravas18:36
cgoldbergforget the ribs... I'll take some grilled membrane18:36
snwhdeep-fried membrane I bet would go all crispy18:36
popeynom18:36
neuroom18:37
popey+118:37
neuroOH YEAH18:37
neuro~/ and i've ... had the membrane of my life ... /~18:37
popeyright, that's it, I'm getting on a plane to jonos house18:37
novatillaskuneuro Bravas and Ali Oli ;-P18:38
neuronovatillasku: stop it!18:38
* neuro loved eating in Barcelona18:38
cgoldbergi can't believe you guys legitimately cook.   some of us hackers are domestically challenged :/18:38
tenachcgoldberg: Cooking is my break from coding18:38
balloonscgoldberg <-- some of us are clearly on the eating side18:39
snwha recipe is food code18:39
neurothis stream should be adult-rated18:39
neurofood pr0n18:39
bobweavermemphis tenn kansas  ect lol never thought that I would be watching British cooking esp for bbq18:39
snwhneuro 4 men watching another mans meat18:39
popeyI believe Erica is the better cook in jonos house ;)18:39
neuroSIX HORSEMEN ONE TRAY18:40
zulpopey: probably by far18:40
simondbull'Cooking with bacon'18:40
neurosquirty mustard?!18:40
neuroPHILISTINE!18:40
popeyhe's become american18:40
popeyreal men use colemans18:41
neurowhy not just pour tomato ketchup all over it while you're at it18:41
neuroYES18:41
neuroah, jono, such a waste18:41
neuroHAHA18:41
neuroif i was doing this, i'd put haggis in with it18:42
elfypopey: lol18:42
popeylol18:42
popeyHP Sauce18:42
tenachhaha18:42
neuroHP SAUCE FTW18:42
popeynoooooooooooooooooooo18:42
neurowhat are you guys talking about18:42
neuroHP sauce has a picture of the houses of parliament on it18:42
neurohence HP18:43
tenachShepards pie is awesome.18:43
neuroShepherd's18:43
neuro</pedant>18:43
tenach</lazy>18:43
neuroIT'S NOT MUSTARD18:43
* popey suspects tenach means cottage pie :)18:43
popeyShepherd's = Lamb18:44
snwhI've come across dry mustard on ribs18:44
popeyCottage = Beef18:44
tenachpopey: Shepard's. :) <3 Lamb18:44
designbybeckEasy now!18:44
designbybeck;)18:44
popeymmmmmmm lamb18:44
neuroyellow ooze from a squeezy bottle is not mustard18:44
bobweavergo to kansas ot st louis18:44
neuroit's mustard-like18:44
tenachI don't use those two words interchangeably like most people.18:44
popey"I'd like a bottle of your finest yellow ooze"18:44
bobweaveryou think tx is crazy18:44
neurojcastro_: you're welcome18:44
neurowe have STANDARDS in this country!18:45
popeyyes!18:45
neurolol18:45
tenachHahaha!18:45
neuroYES18:45
neuroworcester sauce makes everything better18:45
neuroit's like bacon18:45
neuroNO18:45
neuroNO!18:45
neurooh god no18:45
snwhI feel like sharing my ribs: http://goo.gl/78ebz18:46
neurodude, nom18:46
bkerensajono: Im wearing viking style18:47
neuroand rice too, elegant18:47
jcastro_snwh, this look amazing18:48
bobweaverall about the 55 gallon drums ! or at least that is what I see18:48
tenachYAY18:48
GodminGood evening, folks18:48
snwhjcastro_ thanks :)18:49
tenachHallo Godmin18:49
Godminthe guys are already sleeping? I knew it, not much power left in ganiel :)18:49
Godminganiel -> daniel18:49
Godminlooks like I am tired, too18:50
neurogaaah, i keep trying to tail a log on a remote server and Sky keeps dropping the ssh connection18:50
bkerensajcastro_: do oppan Canonical style?18:50
neurostupid Sky18:50
neuroOPPAN BUNTU STYLE18:50
balloonshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI18:51
tenachhahaha18:51
popeyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/pinksherbet/4155618337/  <- the picture of a sandwich mhall119 mentioned18:52
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: you should make a mix of gagnam style18:52
cgoldbergMinecraft Gangnam Style:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO3jygyexAo18:52
JoseeAntonioRgangnam style*18:52
snwhAll this food/cookery has made me start a bolognese18:53
neuroballoons: love the second top comment on that video18:53
Qw3rtzI would love to watch a series of Jono cooking!18:53
Qw3rtz:)18:54
cgoldbergweekly lunch hangout starring a different Ubuntu cook each week?18:54
balloonsneuro, loll18:55
balloonsubuntu community cooking show?18:56
Qw3rtzYes pls18:56
snwhballoons - an ubuntu community cooking show would be amazing18:56
balloonsanyone care to watch baking?18:56
Qw3rtzWell, it is an Ubuntu cooking show18:56
nikitasYes the cooking is awesome! :)18:57
designbybeckI'm not the traditional Texan18:57
Qw3rtzWill Jono cook a Ubuntu logo-shaped meat? ._.18:57
sebsebsebcooking can be kind of interesting to watch yeah, but for me not so much what jono was cooking just now18:57
designbybeckI'm not a fan of traditional BBQ18:57
neuro225 CELSIUS?18:58
balloonsF18:58
balloonsofc18:58
balloonssilly americans we be18:58
snwhopenstack of pancakes18:59
Qw3rtzOpen Steak?18:59
neuroCRAZY PEOPLES18:59
tenachHahaha18:59
penreturns\o/18:59
tenachHuzzah!18:59
neuroISO standards, biotches18:59
tenachHi philballew :D18:59
nikitasNobody said hi to me :(18:59
Qw3rtzDid anyone see Jono's Inspector Gadget t-shirt?18:59
neurojcastro_: does chuck know what he's in for?18:59
tenachQw3rtz: Yeah!18:59
penreturnshi nikitas  :318:59
czajkowskidpm_: looks rather efficent in the kitchen19:00
czajkowskiwhat's he cooking?19:00
neuroczajkowski: hey19:00
jcastro_he's making paella19:00
Qw3rtzHe is cooking Open Steak19:00
* czajkowski hugs neuro hello sunshine 19:00
* neuro is hugged19:00
nikitasHey guys! :D well at least it's true that Ubuntu is a great community to be in!19:00
Qw3rtzThe ingredients are open source!19:00
JoseeAntonioRI agree with nikitas19:00
philballewtenach, hello19:00
neurocana-ria?19:01
czajkowskijcastro_: is that the same drink from earlier on is it a bottomless pit19:01
neurocan-ay-ree-ah19:01
jcastro_czajkowski, water this time19:01
jcastro_it's usually just ice water19:01
neurothis time, haha19:01
jcastro_gotta stay hydrated, 24 hours!19:01
czajkowskibetter than ice tea!19:01
neurobecause last time it was straight up grain alcohol19:02
czajkowskimhall119: knows my opinon on this19:02
jcastro_\o/19:02
czajkowskimhall119: dont make me come over there cheeky19:02
czajkowskicurrently sitting beside a turf fire with a bucket of hot tea19:02
czajkowski:)19:02
designbybeckNow Sweet Tea is something Texans love for sure!19:02
neuroyellow mustard on ribs and now making tea cold, WHO AM I LISTENING TO!?19:03
nikitashahah you are right neuro19:03
neuroGEEKS WITH GRILS, food show or unfortunate typo?19:03
Qw3rtzHaha, neuro +119:03
mhall119czajkowski: watching>19:04
mhall119?19:04
balloonsneuro, rol19:04
czajkowskimhall119: yes19:04
czajkowskiBLAKE!19:04
mhall119:)19:04
czajkowskiherro blakey19:04
neurosee guys, this is the kind of banter you'd get EVERY DAY if only Canonical would just hire me :)19:05
czajkowskineuro: its true really19:05
GemnJust joined, what's the current conversation topic?19:05
neuroczajkowski: i got rejected for a sysadmin role :P19:05
mhall119Gemn: OpenStack19:05
Gemnthanks (:19:05
balloonsjust missed cooking hour19:06
balloonsin short, the ribs are on19:06
neurowtf19:06
neuroTotal sum of donations: £ 3592.570000000000619:06
neuroOK, WHO DONATED THE FLUFF FROM THEIR BELLYBUTTON?!19:06
mhall119lol19:06
* mhall119 blames IEEE floating points19:06
GemnSorry guys, I had to do something with it.. *shrugs*19:07
cielaksomeone please donate 0.99999999999999419:07
mhall119quick, someone donate more19:07
neuromore fluff?19:07
neuroWAIT, I HAVE SOME19:07
designbybeckFun Fact! ... GO  Dexas19:07
designbybeckTexas!19:07
designbybecknot the Bear kind either19:08
designbybeckIt is Bexar County19:08
neuroDexas, Texas' evil twin state19:09
mhall119I thought Texas was the evil one19:09
neurolike when Superman split into two in Superman III19:09
designbybeckdexas does have a nice ring to it19:09
designbybeckNot all of Texas is crazy ;)19:09
bobweaverBetter coaches for minor league !!19:15
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: why are we having 3638.5700000000006?19:15
bobweaverwe need it here in Rochester for the americans19:15
bobweaverminor or ahl is playing19:16
seb128"Total sum of donations: £ 3638.5700000000006"19:16
bkerensajcastro_: I haz question... When we get new chuck gimp?19:16
seb128you guys are missing some 00000019:16
jcastro_seb128, donate!19:16
jcastro_desktop team is coming up short19:16
bkerensabeachball popey?19:16
czajkowskijcastro_: hows the LP team ?19:16
bkerensawat19:16
jcastro_the launchpad team is crushing you guys19:16
popeyhah19:16
seb128jcastro_, what will you do for desktop if we donate? ;-)19:16
czajkowski<3 LP team :D we rock19:17
czajkowskii'll even make an exception to the rule19:17
balloonscontext: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3patjo/19:17
bkerensajcastro_: can you interview czajkowski next? :D19:17
czajkowskiLaunchpad Team are awesome!19:17
seb128\o/19:17
Davieyseb128: Are you gonna get interviewed ?: )19:17
bkerensao/19:17
seb128Daviey, not today, about to go for dinner ;-)19:17
seb128YES!19:18
Davieybah, seb128 - lets watch you eat and talk :)19:18
seb128lol19:18
Daviey!!!19:18
seb128DUDE19:18
seb128that's not the way to get money from us!19:18
sebsebsebno not this seb :d19:19
seb128dholbach, and it WORKED!19:19
DavieyI heard seb128 also introduced the worst bug in ubuntu history19:19
seb128hummmm19:19
Davieyand seb128 has been an advocate for switching to GNU/HURD.19:19
seb128bring us contributors!19:19
* dholbach hugs seb12819:19
* seb128 hugs dholbach19:19
* Daviey stops trolling. sorry seb128 19:20
neurojono: popey donated some bellybutton fluff19:20
bkerensamhall119: a ironing board19:21
TurtlezOnBaconWhat the flip chips19:21
tenachwoo, food! /afk19:21
neuropopey did19:22
neurohe's a cheapskate19:22
zuloooh office space! office space!19:23
popeyI donated 0.00000000000000000001 Bitcoin!19:23
neurowhich is like 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 pence!19:23
TurtlezOnBaconO.o19:23
TurtlezOnBaconIs this how every Ubuntu developer cooks food?19:24
TurtlezOnBacon:o19:24
designbybeckLike BeerTarget for Open Source Beer19:24
czajkowskimhall119: a rub ?19:24
TurtlezOnBaconEwww...19:24
neuroJONO HAS BEEN ASSIMILATED!19:25
TurtlezOnBaconLol19:25
designbybeckseasonings czajkowski19:25
designbybeckflavors and spices19:25
bkerensalol19:25
neurojono: aq would kill you if he saw you buying anything like that19:25
popeyVegetables the way they should be. Smashed up into a "patty".19:25
czajkowskiinteresting...19:25
czajkowskiyes but never heard you say RUB19:25
TurtlezOnBacon*Rimshot*19:25
czajkowskiyes I had lots of fall off the bone meat19:25
snwhbbq another thing to thank china for.19:25
bkerensaczajkowski: thats the best when it falls off19:26
TurtlezOnBacon@jono When is the first Ubuntu for Android device coming out :C?19:27
sebsebsebhi ActionParsnip19:27
neuro"Write failed: Broken pipe" AUUUUUUUUGH19:27
ActionParsniphi sebsebseb19:27
TurtlezOnBaconWth is going on o.o19:28
designbybecknow switch hands19:29
czajkowskimhall119: and you;ll go a long way19:29
czajkowskithe old kitkat add19:29
mhall119:)19:29
neurotell mhall119 to make a "pop pop pop" noise while he does it19:29
mhall119donate 2 pounds and I will19:30
czajkowskicome one people donate so jono shaves his beard off19:30
neuroi already donated 20!19:30
TurtlezOnBaconOh okay thanks :P19:30
czajkowskiit's all about the lackof beard :)19:30
sebsebsebmhall119: I could donate a bit more, but I think I have donated enough really :d19:30
mhall119neuro: to me?19:30
neurocrap19:30
popeyneuro, 20 what? :)19:30
neuroQUID!19:30
popeyscottish pounds?19:30
popeyso that's like a fiver real money?19:30
bobweavercan anyone explain the llvm pipe that unity3d is using.19:30
neuroi used my visa debit so god knows19:30
snwhjono should smoke a whole pig next time.19:31
neuroit could have been guernsey pounds for all i know19:31
bkerensaskinning almonds?19:31
czajkowskiso all over to dholbach for dinner19:31
sebsebsebmhall119: yours should have much more donations from people, I guess people don't know enough about AUtism in general though, which is also the point of the chariety it seems19:31
* dholbach hugs czajkowski19:31
neuropopey: did you know that for every Scottish banknote, there has to be the same face value in pounds sterling held by the BoE?19:31
neuropopey: SO ENOUGH OF YOUR RUBBISH!!!!19:31
czajkowskianything that has coconut milk in it has thumbs up from me19:31
* neuro runs off to put on kilt and paint face blue19:32
neuroFREEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM!19:32
TurtlezOnBaconRofl19:32
bobweavermin hardware ?19:32
popeynahhhh19:32
popey"neuro runs" don't believe it19:32
neurofair point19:32
popey:)19:32
* neuro walks at a reasonable pace to put kilt on19:32
popeylol19:32
czajkowskineuro: you have a kilt19:32
neuroactually, since i don't have a kilt ...19:32
czajkowskipicture!19:33
czajkowskibah19:33
* neuro sits on his sofa and lights another marlboro19:33
neuroczajkowski: the only time i've worn a kilt was when i was 419:33
mhall119sebsebseb: yeah, I thought the FLOSS community would have more people who wanted to donate to that19:33
neuroat my aunt's wedding19:33
mhall119I still have a lot of donations though, just more small donations19:33
bobweaverI think that the unity 2d code was not made for 3d but can run it19:33
neurome and my cousin (3 months younger than me) ran about the whole reception party and went from table to table holding open our sporrans19:34
neuroand wedding guests chucked in money19:34
neurothe pair of us got like 20 quid each19:34
neurowhich in 1978 was buttloads19:34
TurtlezOnBaconQuestion for you guys, I heard there's going to be a Gnome remix version of Ubuntu, will this version of the distro have more Intergration with the Ubuntu system like with new features and stuff or is it just going to be Ubuntu with Gnome?19:34
neurowe were MINTED19:34
bobweaverqml19:34
cristoferhello19:34
bobweaverc++ declaritive mixed with qml19:35
ActionParsnipTurtlezOnBacon: ubuntu already uses gnome....19:35
popeyballoons, unity 6.8 lands today in -proposed19:35
balloonspopey, I was going to ask :-)19:35
asdasdhi19:35
DoDo45659Hey19:35
jeggyHey! :D19:35
neuro"hunt him down ..."19:35
neuroIT'S THE TERMINATOR19:35
TurtlezOnBaconxD19:35
neurohe cannot be stopped19:35
DoDo45659Who donated .0000000000006?19:35
neurohe cannot be reasoned with19:35
neuroDoDo45659: popey19:35
TurtlezOnBaconCheers :)19:35
DoDo45659Ah, I was confused19:36
DoDo45659Thanks19:36
cristofercommunity of panama19:36
TurtlezOnBacono_o....19:37
TurtlezOnBaconXD19:37
* popey has wine \o/19:37
popey"The comfy chair"19:37
* neuro has an ubuntu version of the four yorkshiremen btw19:37
popey"Nobody expects the spanish inquisition"19:37
designbybeckbahwhwhahaa19:37
popey"It's an ex-parrot"19:37
neurohttp://neuro.me.uk/2009/03/22/the-four-ubuntu-yorkshiremen/19:38
mivoligojono: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101489925843882654647/posts/iSJVNGxHmjs19:38
czajkowskimhall119: you had better not be lumping me in there mister! :)19:38
mhall119czajkowski: no, you're Irish19:38
popeyczajkowski, no, you're not one of his best friends ;)19:38
popey:D19:38
* czajkowski nicks popey wine19:38
czajkowskicheeky arse19:38
czajkowskiwhen you going on to entertain us19:39
TurtlezOnBaconAnother question for you guys, since you guys are adding Amazon app in Ubuntu 12.10 will we ever see anything built-in like Steam for Linux?19:39
czajkowskiso we can all get screen grabs to post all over the internet!19:39
neuromhall119: btw, i donated that UKP2 to you (actually UKP2.50 with giftaid), so get dancing, sir!19:39
jbichaaloha!19:39
czajkowskialoha :)19:39
jcastro_jbicha, we should have you on19:39
bobweaversteam and unity 3d is comming19:39
TurtlezOnBaconLike gamessss19:40
neuroyeah, he's probably looking for, you know, steam19:40
designbybeckI'm excited about Unity3D(program) for Linux19:40
TurtlezOnBaconYeah lol19:40
zoopsteryou are correct, Michael19:40
TurtlezOnBaconOoooh :/19:40
bobweaverme too designbybeck19:40
neuroNO, FAIL19:40
neuromake pop pop noise while doing pat head and rub belly!!!19:40
ActionParsnipTurtlezOnBacon: penumbra is very worth the cash, urban terror its lots of fun and the humble bundles are great19:40
zoopsterwe have quite a few unity3d games on the USC now...19:40
ActionParsnipbobweaver: unity3d is already here dude...19:40
DoDo45659Will there be integration of further stores into the shopping lens (like Steam)?19:40
TurtlezOnBaconI got bored of Urban terror, don't know about Penumbra.19:40
ActionParsnipbobweaver: the shell ;)19:41
bobweaverunity 3d engine aka unity 4.0 is here19:41
designbybeckActionParsnip: not the interface in Ubuntu19:41
neurooh well, at least i've donated to a good cause19:41
bobweaverlol ActionParsnip19:41
neuroeven though i only got a third of what i asked for :)19:41
designbybeckor are you meaning the Unity3D Gaming Platform19:41
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: bob got it :)19:41
neuroBOOTSTRAP FTW19:41
mhall119bobweaver: ActionParsnip: not confusing at all is it?19:41
designbybeck;)19:41
neuroYOU SHOULD19:41
designbybeckhaha19:41
jcastro_http://marathon.audataserver.com/19:42
czajkowskiso when is dholbach DJing on the show19:42
czajkowskiwe've heard the others play19:42
mhall119late19:42
czajkowskibooo19:43
czajkowski:(19:43
neuroROFL19:43
neuroaquarius: DOWNVOTE!19:43
sheik@daniel: na, schon müd?19:43
marcoceppiI really hope it works.19:44
loro11Greetings from Slovenia (If anyone knows where that is) :D19:44
* marcoceppi had to test it :P19:44
DoDo45659Is there any way I can donate .4299999999994? It's really disturbing19:44
TurtlezOnBaconLolol19:45
dholbachsheik, no no - it's still alright - just had my first club mate :)19:45
neuroIT'S A TRAP19:45
TurtlezOnBaconIt's over 9000.19:45
neuroI'MA FIRIN' MA LAZER19:46
TurtlezOnBacon:O19:46
marcoceppiALL OF MY TIME19:46
TurtlezOnBaconThe loser has to use Windows for a year.19:46
neurowhoever loses this challenge ...19:46
neuro... is gonna have a bad time19:46
TurtlezOnBaconLolzie19:46
neuroWindows Me19:46
gemathe loser should sing a song on a hangout19:46
neuronot just any windows19:46
gemaindeed19:46
phillwneuro: Nah, make them use vista :P19:47
neurowait19:47
jeggy!!! yes19:47
philballew+119:47
neurojono: THEN WE LOSE TOO!19:47
TurtlezOnBaconI like the Windows vista idea lol19:47
jbichaso are you guys working during the charity-a-thon or just talking and entertaining us the whole time?19:47
ActionParsnipneuro: get them on OS2 Warp :)19:47
czajkowskihttp://www.lyricsondemand.com/onehitwonders/werenotgonnatakeitlyrics.html19:47
neurowarp wasn't actually THAT bad19:47
czajkowskimhall119: ^^^19:47
neurocompared to win3.11, it was epic19:47
jbichacrazy community team19:47
ActionParsnipneuro: yeah try and run apps on it19:47
philballewhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj628ufciSc19:47
czajkowskimhall119: *grin*19:48
neurowho needs apps? everything's in the cloud, right?19:48
mikhasjbicha, they *might* working if the donation goal is reached, who knows19:48
seb128jbicha, I've been watching to see if I can have a chance to see dholbach "working" ... seems it's not going to happen today yet :p19:48
jbichaI think that's why I forget to hang out in your IRC channel19:48
philballew^linux were not gonna take it song19:48
czajkowskimhall119: OI!!!19:48
neuroOOOOOHHHH19:48
Davieyyou plum19:48
czajkowskishe is not19:48
TurtlezOnBaconLolwut19:48
jbichaseb128: oh snap19:48
neurosomeone's gonna GET IT19:48
DavieyShe isn't British :)19:48
mikhasmight start working, that is19:48
neuroWHAT?!19:48
czajkowskino it's not19:48
czajkowskinot at all19:48
neurono, it's really not19:48
phillwjbicha: well for sure, balloons is still on -testing and about to do some checking on a new iso for an alsa bug :)19:48
czajkowskiI'm irish and half English19:48
DavieyIt's like calling you Mexican mhall11919:48
czajkowskimother of god mhall11919:48
neuroit's like saying california is still part of mexico19:49
neuroOH MY GOD19:49
neuroSTOP DIGGING19:49
czajkowskimhall119: wow you're just digging yourself19:49
Davieygood golly.19:49
czajkowskimhall119: I see you 3 weeks time,19:49
TurtlezOnBaconLooks like it's dead.19:49
DavieyMy views represnet my extreme political views, not that of my employer"19:49
czajkowskiyou cant use blake to save yourself19:49
neuroDOGS ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR BEING A DORK ABOUT COUNTRIES :)19:49
TurtlezOnBaconLol19:49
neurothere's only one answer about daleks19:50
neurothe new ones are stupid19:50
neuroand the really new ones are like teletubbies19:50
* ActionParsnip is confused19:51
czajkowskimhall119: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqk_q4NLLI  or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJohRLpfU19:51
neuroOVER FOUR THOUSAND!19:51
neurowas dholbach rockin' the french accent there?19:51
cyphermoxyeah thanks dholbach for  destroying  my name ;)19:52
neuroyou just know the americans in the hangout will do a german accent and end up sounding like Colonel Klink19:52
dholbachcyphermox, sorry about that :)19:52
cyphermoxhehe no worries :D19:52
balloonscyphermox, french canadian?19:52
cyphermoxyes19:52
xnoxslangasek made a video for the maraphon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M660rjNCH0A =)19:52
Annnonnn2Hi! If the QA is still on, will you be integrating other shops into the shopping lens, like for example Desura and Steam?19:53
balloonsawesome :-)19:53
neuroVERE ARE YOUR PAPERS? ZE PAPERS!!!19:53
balloonsvive le Québec19:53
neuroaq probably runs an app to track toilet paper usage19:53
TurtlezOnBaconAnon they already said they aren't integrating Steam because it's closed source19:53
czajkowskijcastro_: whats the quiz?19:53
TurtlezOnBacon:C19:53
balloonsAnnnonnn2, do you mean you will see steam or desura titles in a lens/19:53
marcoceppijono jcastro_ I've got a weighted scale I could apply19:54
balloons?19:54
Annnonnn2balloons: Yes, that19:54
marcoceppibadges are wayyy more points than rep19:54
Annnonnn2Just the results, not the apps directly.19:54
marcoceppiactually, dholbach would probably win19:54
marcoceppisince he has the least amount of badges19:54
TurtlezOnBaconThat would slow down the system @Annonnn219:54
popeyShow us the meat!19:54
marcoceppihe could easily score like 10 bronze badges and blow you all away, just sayin19:54
Annnonnn2TurtlezOnBacon: Well, there already are Amazon results, how is this different?19:55
TurtlezOnBaconThat already lags the system a bit when you search with the Lens19:55
TurtlezOnBaconJust imagine Amazon and Steam19:55
neurowhy is jono saying "delicious" like an american?!19:55
aquariusgood vegetarian food: fried egg and chips.19:55
jonod0od, ready?19:55
d0odjono: yep :)19:55
neurod0od: bring the noise :)19:55
aquariushey, d0od, you going on the telly? nice.19:55
czajkowskiaquarius: with lea and perins19:55
Annnonnn2TurtlezOnBacon: Since it's just the results, wouldn't the effect be miniscule?19:56
TurtlezOnBaconHmmmm maybe19:56
Annnonnn2I mean I haven't noticed any performance hit there, it just takes a while before it appears19:56
neuro"the telly"19:56
neuroaquarius: lol19:56
Annnonnn2But the rest of the dash works fine19:56
neuroaquarius: how's tricks, pal?19:56
aquariusheya neuro!19:56
TurtlezOnBaconLucky you then because my entire system lags lol19:56
popeyI see a d0od !19:57
balloonsAnnnonnn2, I can imagine others writing a lens for it, if the data is available19:57
* popey waves furiously at his screen19:57
czajkowskiROFLOL19:57
Annnonnn2balloons: hopefully, I'm still waiting for a clementine scope for quantal19:57
neurowow, that's like 5-10 seconds19:57
popeyd0od, don't watch it in another tab at the same time19:57
aquarius"I'm just trying to search for my lower third". If I was, for example, a childish giggly innuendo sort of person, I would have laughed at that. :)19:57
balloonshehe19:57
Annnonnn2And just an off question, how hard is it to  write a scope for unity?19:57
balloons see like 8 of me!19:57
balloonsmhall119, ^^^19:58
sebsebsebthere he is19:58
neuroaquarius: "if"?19:58
czajkowskiaquarius: what's this *if* business19:58
aquarius:)19:58
TurtlezOnBaconIt's not that hard there's a tutorial floating around the interwebz some where19:58
TurtlezOnBaconLemme find it for you19:58
neuroHOHO19:58
balloonsAnnnonnn2, mhall119 can point you to writing lenses for unity19:58
Annnonnn2TurtlezOnBacon: Thanks!19:58
neuroOVER 6000 THANKS TO CURRENCY CONVERSION!19:58
czajkowskiso what is a lower third19:58
mhall119Annnonnn2: it's simple19:58
neuroczajkowski: the logo/banner/chiron with their names on it19:58
TurtlezOnBaconhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses19:58
vppHave a UDS here in India, it'll be fun!19:59
Annnonnn2mhall119: Simple is relative, I'm still trying to start with quickly19:59
neuroHOLY TYPING BATMAN19:59
popeyjono, mute19:59
czajkowskijono  typing19:59
nik90vpp: +1 to that!19:59
TurtlezOnBaconWho is raping their keyboard?...19:59
ActionParsnipAnnnonnn2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses19:59
mhall119Annnonnn2: david calle wrote this great tutorial: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/wikipedia_lens_feature/19:59
newbie|3how did someone donate .0000000000006 pence?19:59
nik90lol19:59
neuronewbie|3: it was popey19:59
Annnonnn2Thanks everybody!19:59
popeyThat's like 22,259.98!19:59
aquariushahaha Total sum of donations: £ 3743.570000000000619:59
popeyEmirati Dirham19:59
Annnonnn2mhall119: that one doesn't load for me though19:59
mhall119Annnonnn2: sorry, wrong link19:59
mhall119Annnonnn2: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/unity/creating-a-wikipedia-unity-lens/19:59
TurtlezOnBaconAyeee it's the dude from Omgubuntu, you awesome bro :P20:00
popey"looks like sick"20:00
Annnonnn2Thanks!20:00
TurtlezOnBaconAll of a sudden I can't think of any questions to ask, I had like a ton of questions I wanted to ask >_>20:01
neuropopey: current donations in Congolese Francs would be CDF 5,540,53620:01
aquariusyeah, someone donated 6 ten-trillionths of a penny. Definitely looking to see jono lose the beard there, donator guy. Or, alternatively, dholbach's floating-point code is made of fail :)20:01
popeyniiiice20:01
neuroOVER 5.5 MILLION (congolese francs)20:01
aquariusbring back the hats! yay!20:01
czajkowskimhall119: you're really gonna have to remind me to bring that fedora or I will forget20:01
neuroyay, d0od's lower third has made an appearance!20:01
aquariusfred durst returns!20:01
neuroFRED DURST!20:02
neurojono, show us the temp again but say something to bring focus20:02
* ajmitch waits for the tricky questions20:02
TurtlezOnBaconI got a question, did John Bernard leaving his position in Canonical really make an impact on the company?20:03
mikhaswait, I now count 7 horsemen, not 6?20:03
nik90mhall: nice hat :)20:03
neuroquestion: after shaving beard, will jono also shave baby back ribs?20:03
TurtlezOnBaconWth nice hat bro lol20:03
mhall119czajkowski: aren't you already packed?20:03
popey(silence as nobody wants to say anything bad about Michaels hat)20:03
neurohaha20:03
neuromanchild20:03
mhall119my hat is the best hat20:03
czajkowskimhall119: more or less I'll be back in the UK for 2 days to unload and reload bits for UDS20:03
czajkowskijono looks like he's about to mug someone20:04
mikhasmhall119, get everyone to wear a hat, you are nearly there!20:04
TurtlezOnBaconLOL20:04
bkerensad0od: see G+20:04
neuroQUESTION: ask all the horsemen about this one time ... in band camp ...20:04
neuroreaction lvl: community20:05
neuroczajkowski: yeah, he looks like a hipster mugger20:05
Annnonnn2QUESTION: How many hats do you own?20:05
PadsterQUESTION:  If you had to use another DE other than Unity, what would it be?20:05
neuroMOAR QUESTIONS ABOUT HATS20:05
neuroLESS QUESTIONS ABOUT JONO TALKING ABOUT POLITICS20:07
TurtlezOnBaconRofl at that hat lol20:07
mikhasre: amazon lens -- I didn't reject the revenue stream aspect, I criticized the amount of results that would show up, some of them looking unrelated and distracting.20:07
neuroaquarius: please tell me you rip into jono for his slowly-becoming-bay-area accent20:07
bobweaverQUESTION:  what is % of money that goes to Canonical per buy ?20:08
neurobobweaver: great q20:08
bobweaverwith the unity-lens-shooping .20:08
bobweaverthough it is a scope20:08
bkerensabobweaver: It would be based on the Amazon Associates commission tiering so likely the highest tier which is 15%20:09
Sweetsha1kLies! I see light outside dholbachs window (with everyone slowly joining back). Is there a way to get a real live stream?20:09
mikhasthat's still not close to the 30% Apple gets per app, for instance.20:09
aquariusneuro, I do. :)20:09
neuroaquarius: good man20:09
FroztyUKsea shepherd > greenpeace20:09
neuroaquarius: keep it up20:09
popeyWorth noting its not just amazon20:10
popeypeople call it the "amazon lens" are missing the point20:10
popeyit can use loads of different stores20:10
popeyall around the world20:10
bkerensabobweaver: sorry they reduced the top tier20:10
bkerensabobweaver: https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/join/compensation.html20:10
bobweaverthanks all :)20:11
bkerensaso thats the current percentages based on volumes of sales20:11
mikhaspopey, right, I am guilty of that, too20:11
mikhaseveryone *seems* to understand the topic if you say "amazon lens" though20:11
popeysure20:11
black_puppydogbtw: unity actually DID evolve into something beautiful, great work on that :)20:11
popeybut it misses numerous things20:11
bkerensaNotably for Magazines there Amazon Ads they pay higher commision up to 25%20:11
bkerensahttps://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/help/operating/advertisingfees20:11
popeylike the fact that "ads" have been in ubuntu for a couple of releases20:11
bkerensapopey: correct music20:12
bkerensaand video20:12
popeypeople get taken to the Ubuntu One Music Store (for which we get money) from the music lens20:12
popeyand amazon video20:12
bkerensapopey: ads have been in FOSS for awhile20:12
bkerensaRhythmbox for instance20:12
mikhasad revenue shouldn't be anything new to people using firefox20:12
popeybut I rarely buy music and video, but I do buy batteries and other crap20:12
mikhasthe in-built Google search has been funding Mozilla for years, for instance20:12
neuroQUESTION: is this really something canonical should be getting into?20:13
popeyexactly20:13
AlanBellwith the amazon adverts things, has anything been done to prevent the web service hiting the API limit?20:13
popeyAlanBell, yeah, we're on it20:13
neuroI don't use ubuntu to get price comparisons20:13
neuroi have an OS-independent web browser to do that20:13
Annnonnn2QUESTION: Will there ever be any relevant results there for users outside of the English speaking region? There's no Amazon here, and U1 music hardly has any music for me20:13
bkerensaAlanBell: There is rate limiting :) I have already done some testing20:13
mhall119neuro: browser search one site at a time20:13
mhall119and suck on Tvs20:13
Annnonnn2I mean I'm in Europe and it still sucks20:13
neuromhall119: froogle searches multiple stores20:13
popeyneuro, tried invisible hand?20:14
mhall119neuro: maybe we'll use them some day20:14
neuroand i watch tv shows on my tv :)20:14
AlanBellbkerensa: yeah, I doubt the "search on every keypress" is sustainable even if you ignore missearches whilst typing analyser20:14
neuromhall119: my point is that i don't believe it's something for an OS to be involved in20:14
mikhasperhaps the take-away from firefox google search is: as long as it doesn't get into the user's way, ad-based revenue is actually OK20:14
TurtlezOnBaconQUESTION: How come Ubuntu never made it's own computers?, how come it always relied on the manufactors?. I want to see a cheap ARM made by Ubuntu :@20:14
neurosounds like a cash grab, unfortunately, which you're entitled to do, but still ...20:14
mikhas@joey: OMG Ubuntu is good enough even without scandalous news ;-) keep it that way20:14
TurtlezOnBaconARM computer*20:14
bkerensaAlanBell: it doesnt work :) I have hit the productsearch from multiple nodes with random request amounts per second and it does start ignoring some queries20:14
popeybkerensa, we're on it, it's all good :)20:15
neuropopey: i haven't used invisible hand, looks nice, cheers for the tip20:15
mhall119bkerensa: "on it" != "done"20:16
popeythe cool thing is now it's on the desktop, we can fiddle with it at te backend20:16
* nicekiwi -> Joey is so cute! ^_^ <320:16
popeyneuro, they get revenue for redirecting you, but it's a handy thing to have20:16
neuroyah20:16
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Guest46521I want to start up with open source programming but can write scripts to get data from website not more20:17
popeyNOTE: All the people in this video will have their salaries paid if you buy stuff! Take everything they say with a pinch of salt! :D20:17
neurohehe20:17
popey(except joey)20:17
Guest46521how can i go ahead to become a developer20:17
mhall119popey: +120:17
mikhasGuest46521, by writing code and more importantly, by reading other's people code20:17
popey\o/ Product Strategy20:17
dholbachGuest46521, are you interested in working on Ubuntu itself? or write an app for Ubuntu?20:17
neuroSTRATEGY!20:18
neuroHULA HOOPS!20:18
neuroyou know, for kids.20:18
dholbachGuest46521, if you want to work on Ubuntu, you might want to have a look at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/20:18
Guest46521dholbach: anything. I want to learn tje things20:18
neuroALL THE THINGS20:18
ActionParsnip!contribute20:18
dholbachGuest46521, the first few articles in there should be interesting then :)20:18
mikhasI think the "competition" has a nice program: GNOME Love (<https://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove>)20:18
Guest46521dholbach: hope so20:18
tedg"We mark everything POSTPONED on time every time" ;-)20:19
mikhasit tries to make the first steps to actual contributions easier and it focuses on bonding with the community first20:19
ActionParsnipGuest46521:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu20:19
Guest46521mikhas: where do i get the codes?20:19
k1fritest20:19
aquariusam I allowed to ask questions *of* d0od? Or is he just moderator for questions directed to the community team? ;-)20:19
neuroGuest46521: just start playing with stuff that interests you, I just built myself a website using bash+python+php+mysql plus various XML and JSON APIs ... just because I wanted to20:19
mikhasLaunchpad for anything Ubuntu specific, git.gnome.org for anything GNOME (which is still a big foundation of Ubuntu)20:19
neuroaquarius: just do QUESTION: Foo? and see what happens20:20
balloonsalways causing trouble aquarius20:20
ajmitchdpm_: I hope you're enjoying that dinner :)20:20
aquariuswill ask at the end :P20:20
mikhas@Joey: can you tell phoronix to become a better website for Linux Graphics news?20:20
popeyhaha20:20
Guest46521i too have ideas that i feel really cool but due to lack of knowledge i cant transforn them to reality20:20
TurtlezOnBaconDerp20:20
popeyOooh QUESTION: (for joey) When are you gonna come to UDS!?20:21
RobinJherp20:21
dpm_thanks ajmitch, about to :)20:21
Guest46521 neuro hope u know how it hurts20:21
mikhasyou seem to have figured out how to make OMG Ubuntu a *nice* source for news, at least20:21
neuroGuest46521: it hurts?20:21
Guest46521neuro: it truly does20:21
neuroi don't understand20:21
AlanBelld0od: are you coming to the release party in London?20:21
neuroread docs, read code, learn, play with stuff20:21
Guest46521neuro: i try too to20:22
neuroso what's the problem? :)20:22
Annnonnn2QUESTION: Do you feel that slashdot is part of the reason this whole Amazon thing got out of hand?20:22
mikhastry to find a mentor that can help with the first steps20:22
Annnonnn2I mean it was all lies that stuff thre20:22
Tyler-J-BI definitely have my criticisms about Unity, especially on multi-mon setups. And I'm somebody that loves Unity.20:22
neuromikhas++20:22
ActionParsnipAnnnonnn2: when did it get out of hand?20:22
popey"I can swear can't I? Looking at the clock in the UK" :D20:22
mikhasAnnnonnn2, yeah, damn those news sites that report about Ubuntu!20:22
aquariusis after the watershed :P20:23
ActionParsnippopey: 21:23 here in the UK20:23
mikhas</sarcasm>20:23
Annnonnn2ActionParsnip: When they started claiming some ridiculous stuff and only corrected it about 12-14 hours later20:23
ActionParsnipAnnnonnn2: not seen any of that20:23
Guest46521neuro:  i an a py fan, so now if i have a multi module app i cant just figure out how to understand it20:23
neuroActionParsnip: i think popey knows what the time is in the UK :)))20:23
ActionParsnipneuro: I assume nothing20:24
Guest46521neuro: throw to me an ubuntu app to start with20:24
Guest46521neuro: a small nice one20:24
neuroGuest46521: i'm not an ubuntu dev20:24
neuroGuest46521: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks20:24
neuroWINNING20:25
TurtlezOnBaconWell Kickstarter is bringing a bunch of Linux games.20:25
mikhasdholbach, games are often enough incredibly hard to write20:26
neurogood games, anyway20:26
mikhaswho wants to write bad games?20:26
mikhasutility tools or small helper applications are much easier, IMO20:26
bobweavergames take 3 years to make20:26
bobweaveror more20:26
bobweaver3d20:26
bobweaverthat is20:26
neuromikhas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comp.sys.sinclair_Crap_Games_Competition20:27
mikhas3d graphics actually make certain aspects easier. in 2d, you'd have to do all the sprites manually20:27
mikhasneuro, hah20:27
LeblinuxWill there be an update for Thunderbird email or Evolution to support connection to Ms Exchange 2007/2010?20:27
neurod0od: QUESTION: Do a dance?20:27
popeyPeople read slashdot?20:28
RobinJQUESTION to Joey; Why aren't you participating? :p20:28
ajmitchpopey: a few still do20:28
* AlanBell reads slashdot20:28
mikhaspopey, it's more an addiction thing really20:28
marcoceppidigg?20:28
neuropopey: seems so20:28
bkerensamhall119: it was on r/linux first before slashdot20:28
NameErrori guess it was reddit20:28
popeyretro20:28
mikhasyeah20:28
mikhas15 years of /.20:28
mikhas\o/20:28
AlanBelldon't follow reddit or digg at all20:28
neuroi gave up /. years ago20:28
bkerensaLOL20:28
neuroand the register too20:29
bkerensaAlanBell: lol20:29
mikhasAlanBell, HN is the new reddit, anyways20:29
bobweaverQuestion: I myself have just started packaging not to long ago .  At the last UDS there was talk about a new way of packaging I think that it had something to do with json or somesorta web interface . I also notice that there are thing like susebuilder. Is there any plains like that for Ubuntu and or what is up with that web packaging stuff that I heard about at the last UDS  Thanks20:29
dscasselPhotoshop. Definitely photoshop.20:29
black_puppydogphotoshop, yeah...20:29
neuroyou think20:29
AlanBellgimp is fine20:29
neurosurely most serious photoshop users will have just bought a win-pc or a mac already20:29
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black_puppydogoh, how could i not say steam on that?20:30
bobweaverunity-3d is such a HUGE step for linux20:30
black_puppydogso excited!20:30
mikhasregarding good games: the last humble bundle was nice, all games seemed to work in Ubuntu20:30
bobweavergaming that is20:30
rewritableAutoCAD maybe20:30
mikhasbobweaver, agree20:30
neuroand it's not just photoshop, the whole creative suite is really needed20:30
dscasselAlanBell: Only if you're starting from scratch. If you've put 15 years into learning Photoshop, you're not going tos witch.20:30
neurodscassel++20:30
AlanBelldscassel: so I have spent 15 years using gimp, I am not going to switch to Photoshop :)20:30
mikhasbut with unity-3d engine, expect more games being *designed* for web or tablets but being "ported" to PC, same as what we observed with games primarily targeting consoles20:31
bobweaverWith steam and unity-3d comming that will pressure UDK to come next20:31
aquariusQUESTION: is the fact that very few apps for Ubuntu are Ubuntu-specific a bad thing? Random example I noticed today: http://hammerformac.com/ -- some sort of dev tool. It proudly proclaims "Built for Lion + Mountain Lion: Developed exclusively for Mac". Are there enough people proud of developing exclusively for Ubuntu? Should people be proud of that?20:31
neuroAlanBell: then you're fine :)20:31
mhall119zoopster: hey, want to join our hangout?20:31
LeblinuxAlso could Ubuntu software center support Procy Auth like Synaptics???20:31
AlanBellbut really who uses photoshop? It is like £60020:31
neuroAlanBell: people who pay for the tools they need20:31
agmenorNovacut could be an "exclusive" app ?20:31
AlanBellyeah, but it is a niche product20:31
mhall119AlanBell: people who charge thousands for photography work20:31
neuroniche products are usually expensive20:31
AlanBelllots of people might use ripped off photoshop20:31
neurothis is why AutoCAD doesn't cost 10 quid20:32
AlanBellbut it isn't a mass market product20:32
bobweaverI will but unity-3d (4.0) when it makes it here and that is super $$20:32
* neuro thinks for the power it gives, photoshop (and CS) are good value for money20:32
rewritabletrue, but it is one of the reasons why business users won't consider linux on the desktop20:32
neuroespecially if you can recoup the cost by using them professionally20:32
bobweaversame if sony made there video editing software for *nix20:32
snwhand that Linux users pay the most on average for the Humble Bundle is good20:33
mikhasjono, the software center integration could still need some work perhaps: there was no "batch install" for the whole Humble Bundle, for instance20:33
tenachsnwh: for sure20:33
AlanBellrewritable: ok, I get the point for graphic design agencies, but real businesses don't have people sitting about on photoshop20:33
tenachAwesome hat jcastro_ !20:34
neuroAlanBell: "real businesses"?20:34
popeyyeah mikhas that would be handy20:34
mhall119AlanBell: yes they do20:34
tenachAlanBell: I know a lot of people who live in Photoshop20:34
k1friQUESTION:  until now, i've told people: install ubuntu and you'll be a lot freer than using microsoft or apple software. ( + you won’t have any malware). now i’m gonna have to tell people, install ubuntu, it’s a great software, BUT first thing you have to do is remove the amazon-dash.......it reminds me of “xp-antispy”, remember?? clustering my desktop with ads and violating my privacy by sending everything i do to ama20:34
jcastro_tenach, thanks!20:34
tenachFor their "real business"20:34
AlanBellneuro: well anyone who isn't a design agency or art department20:34
black_puppydogmhall: +1, the most definitely do20:34
k1frigo together?20:34
neuroyou're embarrassing yourself, sir20:34
AlanBelltenach: doing what?20:34
bobweaverpackage me that was it20:35
ActionParsnipk1fri: if you install Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu you don't get the amazon stuff20:35
neuroi know photographers, architects, web designers, engineers ... who use photoshop20:35
ActionParsnipk1fri: it doesn't send anything as the results are random as far as I am aware20:35
mikhasdholbach, autotools is the poster child of packagers, no? ;-)20:35
tenachAlanBell: Graphics designers and web developers. I have even spent a good month of time in Photoshop (but now use GIMP religiously). I was using it 8hrs a day just about, for designing systems.20:35
Annnonnn2neuro: engineers? what for? Proper CAD software on Linux would be nice tough20:35
penreturns+1 ActionParsnip20:36
Annnonnn2*though20:36
tenachI realize my sentence may not have been very well structured. Apologies.20:36
helder_raptorHow good a replacement is Gimp for photoshop?20:36
AlanBellfinancial services, manufacturing, engineering, etc20:36
neuroAlanBell: how do you think a lot of mobile app developers create the graphics for their apps?20:36
bobweaverthanks again for the great answers all,20:36
ActionParsniphelder_raptor: I'd say it was pretty decent20:36
mikhasthere is a weird echo in the stream now20:36
neurohow do you think architects create/touch up mockup art?20:36
helder_raptorActionParsnip: Was ... why was?20:36
mikhasneuro, hopefully on paper =p20:36
neuroha20:36
dholbachwill have to restart my browser - the google plugin is going crazy again20:36
dholbachbrb20:36
Annnonnn2neuro: but architecs =/= engineers20:37
neuroso we're playing the semantics game now?20:37
FroztyUKannoying audio echo20:37
bobweaver \0/   about /opt20:37
neurobottom line, Adobe's Creative Suite is used by way more than just "designers and art departments"20:37
Annnonnn2neuro: No, I just asked about something else.20:37
tenachneuro: +120:37
Annnonnn2That definitely is true20:37
neuroyes, it would be nice to see it on Linux20:37
neurobut it will still cost $$$ (and there will be complaints about that)20:38
Annnonnn2AutoCAD would be another thing though20:38
mikhas /opt is fine for everything that does not really integrate with the rest of the packaged software but rather "rolls their own"20:38
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess20:38
snwhas someone who does some (amateur) photography the miscellaneous Adobe stuff light Lightroom would be nice as well20:38
snwhlike*20:38
k1friActionParsnip: i won't use the other flavours, because i love unity20:38
Annnonnn2A lot of engineers need that for their work and most do not care about much beyond having AutoCAD20:38
neuroAnnnonnn2: ^ this20:38
black_puppydogmikhas: those are the wors. also execution wise, mostly....20:39
rewritableAnnnonnn2: yes20:39
neuromaybe a dalliance into a spreadsheet once in a while, but autocad is their world, i've seen that before20:39
neuro"1990s linux guy"!! :)20:39
NameErrorQUESTION: App showdown was great. Is there a follow up to encourage developers to actively maintain it, maybe build a small upstream community around the app?20:39
tenachmhall119: That's how the last IT guy at my work was...20:39
neuro"here's a nickel, kid ..."20:39
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Annnonnn2QUESTION: Will the process for apps that require cd-keys be somehow improved? It appears many people miss the part where they're supposed to check their email for that20:40
neuroI RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD MY NEW APP IN COBOL20:40
tenachjono: !! I agree. It's better than half-baked applications that try to build for most of Linux, but try to hae some of the 'deep' integrations into Ubuntu (and not do it well)20:40
neuroUSING HTML 3.220:41
neuroAND <blink> AND <marquee>20:41
snwhI will keep using FORTRAN 77!20:41
neuro\o/20:41
neuroLOGO!20:41
PochecusPrimesuP all ^^.20:41
* neuro looks up20:41
juancNo participo porque no hablo Ingles, pero entiendo algo.20:41
RobinJ<neuro> AND <blink> AND <marquee> << marquee actually came back in html5 :p20:42
black_puppydog"[22:41] <neuro> AND <blink> AND <marquee>" what is the neuro tag? ;)20:42
neuroRobinJ: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO20:42
neuroblack_puppydog: <angryscotsman>20:42
rewritableCOBOL??20:42
neuroCOBOL!20:42
rewritablelolcode20:42
RobinJneuro: http://webdesign.about.com/od/css3tutorials/a/marquee-in-css.htm20:42
Annnonnn2QUESTION: Something something window indicators20:42
neuroIDENTIFICATION DIVISION.20:43
TurtlezOnBaconWut...20:43
snwhI'd like to see zeigeist recently used by this program in the quicklists.20:43
neuroPROGRAM-ID. MY-AWESOME-WEB-APP.20:43
neuroPROCEDURE DIVISION.20:43
neuro    DISPLAY '<html>'.20:43
mikhasmhall119, not every library makes correct use of XDG specs (see for instance resolving paths)20:43
neuroRobinJ: oh dear god, no20:44
mhall119mikhas: true, but that's an implementation bug, not an intent problem20:44
mikhasideally, app developers would not have to think about XDG20:44
neuroThe new tagline for OMG! Ubuntu! ... "d0od: I'm not a developer, so I don't really know" :)20:44
mikhasneuro, I actually think it helps Joey that he's not a dev20:45
neuroBRING ME THE UBUNTU CLOUD GUY20:45
neuromikhas: agreed20:45
mikhasotherwise, you'd get yet another dev-oriented POV20:45
seb128jcastro_, \o ;-)20:45
neuroyarp20:45
tedgjcastro_, Yes, you can make it suck everywhere :-)20:45
RobinJweb apps are too complex for most users20:45
agmenorI just tested it : Minitube does use the HUD. Did I misunderstand Joey ?20:45
Sweetsha1ktedg: yes, go for it!20:45
Sweetsha1ktedg: do we start a web vs. desktop flamewar?20:46
Sweetsha1k....oO(please?)20:46
aquariustotally agree with d0od on this. That sort of thing (apps do their own menus) doesn't happen on, for example, OS X, because there's a strong culture of working with the desktop and users dislike it when an app does not. The Ubuntu user community either doesn't mind when apps work strangely, or are unwilling to push back on apps that do it; I don't know which.20:46
bobweaver Is Harvest still working dholbach20:46
tedgSweetsha1k, There is only a war if the other team has weapons... it'd be an unfair fight and I'm a gentleman.20:46
aquariusnot sure if mhall119 agrees with that, though :) ^^20:46
neuroaquarius++20:47
balloonsblueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+spec/other-design-p-papercuts-future20:47
Sweetsha1ktedg: true dat.20:47
mikhasaquarius, I certainly dislike it when apps appear broken in Unity20:47
mhall119aquarius: that's not quite true20:47
mhall119X11 apps on OSX don't handle menus properly20:47
luisalvaradoQUESTION: With the integration of webapps, will it be easier for developers to create apps that use existing webapps to connect to sites like Google+, Facebook and Twitter in a since to reduce code work.20:47
tenachI miss the prominence of bite-size bugs.20:47
neuromhall119: that's sort of a special case though20:47
tedgaquarius, It happens all the time on OSX... look at their panel, almost every menu works slightly differently because they have no controls.20:47
aquariusmhall119, indeed -- and every OS X user I know hates X11 apps for precisely that reason ;)20:47
neuro:)20:47
jcastro_https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-September/035924.html20:47
RobinJIf I had to file every bug or crash I came across, I'd waste a lot of time doing it :/ No offense, I love Ubuntu, but it's not stable.20:47
mikhasrecent example: Libre Office and window managment, because the desktop file for Libre Office uses a different binary name than what is used for the Unity bar20:47
tenachjcastro_: Thanks!20:47
mhall119aquarius: so if we say "All GTK apps will work with the menus", we'd be just like Mac20:48
mikhasfixable in 5min  (for one desktop file), but seems as if upstream does not think about the problem20:48
bobweaverIf Harvest is still up that was great! for finding bit size bugs20:48
ActionParsnipRobinJ: never had an isue20:48
dholbachaquarius and everyone else: rounding is fixed :)20:49
aquariusdholbach, good one :)20:49
dholbachyeah, javascript hero strikes back20:49
mikhasdholbach, but now it's lying!20:49
mhall119donate more until it breaks again20:49
dholbachhaha20:49
ajmitchmikhas: probably not trivial due to it using the same binary name for all LO apps, so it ends up not being bitesized20:49
dholbachmikhas, don't think so :)20:49
mikhasajmitch, yep, it's aa real problem for upstream projects: which primary downstream do we fully support?20:49
mikhasIE, what is the gold standard?20:50
RobinJActionParsnip: that seems like the typical "open source software contains no bugs, claiming otherwise is blasphemy" answer. there's nobody who uses a computer weekly who never had any issues with his operating system.20:50
Sweetsha1kmhall119, dholbach: Maybe you should make it "Insert coin, so that we fix the webpage"?20:50
jcastro_https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-September/035924.html20:50
dholbachSweetsha1k, haha20:50
dholbachnice one20:50
snwh£ 3839.57 nice20:50
luisalvaradojcastro_,  QUESTION: With the integration of webapps, will it be easier for developers to create apps that use existing webapps to connect to sites like Google+, Facebook and Twitter in a since to reduce code work.20:50
bobweaverhttp://harvest.ubuntu.com/20:50
aquariusmhall119, we roughly *do* say that. But for apps that deliberately don't use standard menus -- d0od's examples, etc -- they see a benefit for themselves, but lose out on the larger picture because the HUD doesn't work with them20:51
neurodon't forget the 0.0000000000006!20:51
mikhasstrange to hear mhall119 talking about Pounds ;-)20:51
tenachneuro: that went away haha20:51
mhall119you're telling me20:51
tenachI do!20:51
tenachA bit.20:51
neurotenach: awwww20:51
neuroi haven't refreshed for a while20:51
tenachneuro: I know. I was happy to see all the 00000s20:52
ActionParsnipRobinJ: my hardware is super Linux friendly and I web browse and chat. I look after 5 datacentres full of servers as well as my own home systems so pretty much use computers all the time, no issues with my home gear20:52
neurofloating point fails are always fun20:52
tenachFor sure.20:52
ActionParsnipRobinJ: all software has issues though20:52
luisalvaradojcastro_, in a since that a single API could be used to connect to multiple social medias20:52
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ActionParsnipRobinJ: what desktops have you tried?20:52
Sweetsha1kd0od: Also for the menu stuff, I would love your feedback on the LibreOffice unity integration currently building on https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-precisetest-20120327 once they are build.20:52
Sweetsha1k;)20:52
balloonswebapps link? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzYmMvqqo4E&feature=plcp20:53
popeywebapps is in20:53
mhall119http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/javascript/unity-web-api-reference.html20:53
RobinJActionParsnip: you mean desktop environments, or desktop systems?20:53
snwhQUESTION: Is anyone aware whether Ubuntu online accounts would integrate with a default mail client?; similar to the way that gwibber does for social networking20:53
AlanBellpopey: did it arrive in firefox? I think I saw a webapps thing today in FF20:53
luconga-PERUhello20:53
Annnonnn2webapps still is wonky for me - it just launches another window of firefox...20:53
balloonsAlanBell, that's what those pop-ups are :-)20:53
luconga-PERUalguien para que me enseñe ubuntu 12.0420:53
luisalvaradoThank you jcastro_20:53
ActionParsnipRobinJ: desktop environments20:54
aquariusvague correction for mhall119: it's not just web *apps* that can integrate with Unity, it's any website at all. I know you know this, but maybe it wasn't clear when calling them "web apps" :)20:54
NameErrorQUESTION: App showdown was great. Is there a follow up to encourage developers to actively maintain it, maybe build a small upstream community around the app?20:54
tenachmhall119: I agree totally.20:54
RobinJActionParsnip: gnome 2, gnome 3, cinnamon, unity, unity 2d, fluxbox, icewm (i know, window managers, not real desktop environments), kde, lxde, xfce, just a command line20:55
k1frii'd love someone to write a rhapsody/napster-webapp20:55
Sweetsha1kjono still owes me the pictures for my tAoC book.20:55
RobinJNameError: my app is still pending review lol so i'm not really encouraged right now to actively maintain it20:55
neurok1fri: do you want to integrate altavista search too? :)20:55
ActionParsnipunity and uinity2d arent desktops, they are shells for gnome :)20:56
Billynkidis it an accomplishment?20:56
Sweetsha1kjono: I will make you paint them at UDS ...20:56
neuroWE WANT TO THROW JONO'S BEARD AT A WALL!20:56
black_puppydogQUESTION: would it be an option to make a platform/toolset/ide for indie game developers (a pretty verbose group on the net) to better use Ubuntu for game jams and such events, thus drawing them into Ubuntu? this would probably invovle working with existing teams (Construct 2, Unity3d...)20:56
ActionParsnipRobinJ: which release are you using?20:56
sheikdholbach: best wishes from Christina, Steffen, Thomas & Murphy20:57
* dholbach hugs sheik20:57
ActionParsnipneuro: my beard is bigger :)20:57
dholbachsheik, you all are awesome! :)20:57
bobweaveryou guys you can make a html5 app in 2 seconds with qtcreator all you need is a html address20:57
sebsebsebI bought the Art of Community second edition in August20:57
dholbachsheik, thanks again for taking care of Murphy :)20:57
neuroActionParsnip: are you shaving yours off though? :)20:57
ActionParsnipneuro: hell no20:57
neurobobweaver: go on then20:57
mikhassebsebseb, but did you *read* it?20:57
neurobobweaver: :)20:57
RobinJActionParsnip: at this point? mageia 2 gnome20:57
sebsebsebcould be quite a useful book to read, got another distro, I am interested in building up the community for properly :)20:57
popeyJono gave me 4 copies20:57
sebsebsebmikhas: no just had a bit of a look, not read it properly yet20:57
mikhasI didn't read it and probably never will, so at least I am honest ;-)20:57
ActionParsnipRobinJ: ahh based on mandriva. Nice20:57
ActionParsnipRobinJ: my first distro was mandrake back in the day20:58
RobinJActionParsnip: i ditched ubuntu for the time being because (still no offense, but it's true), ubuntu was becoming too buggy and slow for me to use daily20:58
neuroi still think we've been hoodwinked20:58
neurojono's beard is like tiny20:58
RobinJActionParsnip: mine was edubuntu 7.10 :p20:58
mikhasI read about the contents often enough when jono was advertising for it ;-)20:58
neurohe'll have that bumfluff grown back in a week20:58
neuroZERO RISK20:58
ActionParsnipRobinJ: mandrake 7 :)20:58
RobinJQUESTION: What was your first distro?20:58
RobinJActionParsnip: which year's that from?20:58
neurowe need to escalate this20:58
ActionParsnipRobinJ: 2001 ish20:58
neuroif they get to UKP6000, we need a full jono head shave20:58
RobinJhmm ok i didn't know linux yet when i was 6 :p20:59
neuroall hair from the neck up20:59
ActionParsnipRobinJ: http://www.geek.com/articles/news/linux-mandrake-72-released-20001030/20:59
sebsebsebmikhas: downloaded the free PDF before to, but didn't read, with a pshyicall book nicer to read :)20:59
mikhas"defeated the purpose", dholbach -- there, you just used a military word, too =p20:59
ActionParsnipRobinJ: being 32 helps :)20:59
RobinJhehe :p20:59
DavieyI'd savour the moment just to get close to an author like you.20:59
RobinJstarting with linux when you're 12 helps too :p20:59
dholbachmikhas, not a native speaker - I was glad I could come up with some vocabulary to express what I wanted to say :)21:00
neurorider, lol21:00
neuroI DEMAND A TROPICAL FRUIT PLATE21:00
aquariusUDS *is* jono's rider21:00
helder_raptorWhere do i get tAoC21:00
neuroAND BROWN M&M'S21:00
mikhasdholbach, I know I know …21:00
Billynkidbrown m&m's?21:00
rewritablehah21:00
* aquarius doesn't know :(21:00
AlanBellaww21:00
balloonsI room with the output of /dev/random21:00
aquariushappy to hear suggestions21:00
jcastro_aquarius, :)21:00
tenachballoons: hahaha21:01
jcastro_we shall smoke all sorts of electronic cigarettes21:01
aquariusjcastro_, nah, kenvandine already has a roommate :(21:01
RobinJActionParsnip: at that point i didn't immediately realise the difference between ubuntu and linux yet, of course :p21:01
jcastro_:(21:01
neuroSo there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night ...21:01
dholbachaquarius, I'm rooming with mvo - sorry21:01
aquariusdholbach, yeah, I know. I assume I shall get someone random from the pool, which will be fun :)21:01
neuroSTOP USING FAHRENHEIT YOU CRAZY PEOPLE!21:01
TurtlezOnBaconMetric system sucks.21:01
neuropshaw21:01
RobinJneuro: that would explain the 180° xD21:01
philballew+121:01
* ajmitch wonders if the roommate list is around somewhere21:01
mikhasneuro, it transports the idea of "very hot" quite well21:01
dscasselMetric ftw!21:01
neuroRobinJ: exactly21:02
Annnonnn2SI forever!21:02
RobinJTurtlezOnBacon: .... "i don't know it so it sucks"21:02
mhall119ajmitch: Marianna has it21:02
neuroRobinJ: haha21:02
neuro100C = boily21:02
TurtlezOnBaconI know the metric system lolzie.21:02
neuro381.515910589078930251F = boily21:02
neuroor something like that21:02
helder_raptorWhere do i get tAoC for download as e book?21:02
RobinJmy laptop's max is 112°C21:02
RobinJso far21:02
RobinJthat was with the beta of ubuntu 11.10...21:02
neuro102 for my 13" MBP21:02
ActionParsnipneuro: the original Celcius scale was to have water boil at 0 deg celcius then go from that21:02
RobinJnever using a beta of ubuntu anymore outside of a virtual machine, ever since21:03
popey"Working" for 24 hours21:03
neurolook21:03
mikhasjono, I guess the response was: "So you want to get paid for 24hrs of non-sense? Is this Tech Comedy Central?"21:03
neurosod this21:03
aquariushelder_raptor, http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/get/21:03
neurolet's all just use Kelvin21:03
fazzaanmy laptop just turns off at like 95C every time I hang out >_>21:03
ActionParsnipRobinJ: I always install the alpha2 , reporting bugs i fun21:03
RobinJok let's go universal then; my laptop's max so far is 386 degrees kelvin :p21:03
ActionParsnipneuro: kelvin makes sense21:03
neuro"3909.5699999999997" lol21:03
jvrbanachugs for holbach21:03
jvrbanaclol21:03
aquariusdholbach, floating point death again :)21:04
Annnonnn2Kelvin and celsius is pretty much the same after all.21:04
helder_raptoraquarius: thnks21:04
dholbachaquarius, no?21:04
aquariusdholbach, Total sum of donations: £ 3909.569999999999721:04
dholbach"£ 3909.57"21:04
mikhasjono, it probably grows back within 3 days?21:04
mikhashahahaha, mhall11921:04
neurosomeone's trying to compensate for popey's bellybutton fluff21:04
neurod0od: it'll take like a week, ZERO RISK21:05
neuroif jono gets to 3K, SHAVE ALL HEAD21:05
philballewyour using the wrong digit format. just sayin...21:05
* aquarius donates 0.0000000000003p 21:05
popeyhmmm21:05
neurommmm21:05
neuroSHAVE WHOLE HEAD21:05
RobinJ4000 British pounds sterling = 4973.6400 euros21:05
popeyBrummies aren't a _race_21:05
RobinJso almost 5000€21:05
tedgAt $5K, wax it off instead of shaving it off ;-)21:05
popeyThey're an anomoly21:05
neuro$ sudo shave /jono/head21:05
neuro"anomoly"?21:06
popey-typo21:06
neuroholy moly?21:06
neuroyea yea :)21:06
RobinJneuro: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/jono/body/head21:06
mikhaspopey, why dont you join the livestream for a couple minutes?21:06
philballewI have monopoly money I can donate. Would that work?21:06
RobinJthat should look good :p21:06
popeymikhas, hehe, if they ask me later21:06
neurothey should ask me on, i'd be awesome21:06
neuroOH NOES, I LIVE IN A HOUSE WHICH PROVIDES PROTECTION FROM PRECIPITATION21:07
mikhaspopey, an overview over the last months and teasing for UDS would be nice21:07
k1friQUESTION aren't you supposed to be working considering 12.10 is about to be unleashed very soon?21:08
helder_raptorNokia21:08
neuroNOKIA!!!21:08
neuroi need to get nokia ringtones for my iphone21:08
* RobinJ hits print screen21:08
neurojcastro_: lol21:08
tenachhahha21:08
k1fri:D21:08
neurotop secret: none of these guys contribute anything, which is why they can do this21:08
Annnonnn2QUESTION: When are you gonna ask the previous questions?21:08
* xnox is confused what did just happen on air?!21:08
neurojono just sits about bbqing stuff21:08
helder_raptorneuro: i hate nokia21:09
Annnonnn2neuro: Why do I find that so easy to believe?21:09
neuroxnox: jcastro_ just went all hipster21:09
neurohelder_raptor: why?21:09
neuromicrosoft deal?21:09
popeyDROP THE LAPTOP INTO THE BBQ!21:09
popeybah!21:09
k1friQUESTION tell me a bit about that amazon dash21:09
helder_raptorneuro: propiotory stuff21:09
nicekiwiyummy!21:09
helder_raptorneuro: kind of21:09
jcastro_Annnonnn2, which questions? can people please repost it if we missed it?21:09
neurohelder_raptor: ah, irrational hatred then :)21:09
RobinJQUESTION: is there some kind of timeframe for... perhaps reviewing apps which have been submitted months ago?21:09
Annnonnn2QUESTION: How evil are you? You show us such foods but don't let us get them!21:09
neuroAnnnonnn2++21:10
helder_raptorneuro: I have never used a smartphone yet.21:10
neurohelder_raptor: you're missing out21:10
snwhQUESTION: mhall119 what's the best cereal?21:10
neurounless all you want to do is make calls and text21:10
helder_raptorneuro: wat am i missing?21:10
helder_raptorna smartphone?21:10
neurohelder_raptor: apps21:10
RobinJhttp://i.imgur.com/yRd9w.png21:10
Annnonnn2Here's some reposting then: QUESTION: Something something window indicators;21:10
luk4196hello all21:11
neuroRobinJ: configutation?21:11
helder_raptorneuro: naa...i try it on SDKs21:11
neuroHELLO!21:11
neurohelder_raptor: umm, ok21:11
balloonstbh, QA is never busy than right now :-)21:11
mikhasjono's webcam needs shades, too sunny21:11
RobinJneuro: configuration of what?21:11
neurowho needs QA?21:11
rewritableQUESTION: Are there any plans to have the unity launcher moveable to bottom or right of screen?21:11
neuroRobinJ: that screen grab, it said "configutation"21:11
helder_raptorwhoose +baloons?21:11
neuroas opposed to "configuration"21:11
RobinJneuro: my god lol21:12
neuroRobinJ: when you see it ... hehe21:12
RobinJthat's been in there for a long time21:12
Annnonnn2QUESTION: Where can I volunteer for the ARB board? Any requirements?21:12
RobinJneuro: fixed :p21:12
helder_raptorif that was castro's nap than i have been sleeping for the last few centuries21:12
neuroRobinJ: :)21:12
neuroAMAZON ANSWER: it's a cash grab ... next question :)21:13
k1fri:(21:13
helder_raptormhall119: RaspBerryPi, Is ubuntu for it under development? I feel its the next big thing.21:13
popeyloldicators21:13
popeyno21:13
tedgYeah, we couldn't really find enough use-cases for it.  There were a couple that were interesting, but not enough to justify building it.21:14
neuroczajkowski: https://meeja.net/tv/episode/d1827524-90c4-324c-55c2-ac61915339e221:14
neurocrap21:14
neurowrong window :P21:14
fazzaanQuestion: are things like windicators more likely once wayland is in use and windows are drawn entirely client-side?21:14
mikhasit's like with the making of a good movie: two-third of stuff some might enjoy lands on the cutting floor (and then you have director's cuts, ugh)21:14
RobinJQUESTION: What's the current status with Wayland? Are we ever going to ditch the dinosaur X11?21:15
mikhasregarding good idea, I just read this today: http://97things.oreilly.com/wiki/index.php/Avoid_%22Good_Ideas%2221:15
mikhasBad ideas are easy to spot, for good ideas it takes a bit longer to see whether they are bad ;-)21:15
bobweaverisRightToleft21:16
bobweaverthat is why21:16
popeynever gonna happen :)21:16
k1friQUESTION in 12.10 i noticed it's not possible anymore to move dash icons about.....is that a bug or design?21:16
Annnonnn2 QUESTION: When will there be some mockups of Ubuntu Tablet? Nexus 7 with Ubuntu perhaps?21:17
bobweaverUnity standalone joey ?21:17
Annnonnn2k1fri: it very much is movable21:17
mikhaspopey, hopefully21:17
Annnonnn2I can move everything now21:17
k1friAnnnonnn2: somehow i can't anymore21:17
Annnonnn2Must be a bug, everything was made movable21:18
Annnonnn2(except for trash and dash icon)21:18
bobweaveryes there is formfactor tv in unity 6.6 >=21:18
k1friAnnnonnn2: everythings fixed21:18
mikhasmaking hard decisions on where to place desktop elements is good21:18
mikhasit actually allows to design for that21:18
bobweaverrendercover flow altered by me in unity 3d http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcepB1E1lX0&list=UUzkAk08QdVFd1CmwWQBD3Sw&index=5&feature=plpp_video21:18
mikhasif everything was movable, then each *good* design would have to take all possibilities into account, too21:19
helder_raptorI love the extra pane in nautilus. but do feel that it should be increased to 4 panes.21:19
k1friby the way, canonical: unity is great! now you can see it coming all together! kudos21:19
bobweaverBut Now that QT 5 and also qt2.0 have opengles what are the talks for panada boards ect21:20
snwhQUESTION: the future of graphical file management; what's up with Nautilus is the future?21:20
bobweavernm21:20
mikhassnwh, I sense a fork, see Cinnamon :-(21:20
bobweaversure21:20
bobweaverbut it dont work21:20
balloonshehe21:20
bobweaveryou just set the formfactor21:21
stevenis the "usrMove" going to be a topic as well? was it already a topic? or is it to much of an internal topic?21:21
bobweavergsettings set com.canonical.Unity set form-fasctor = tv21:21
bobweaverspelling is bad ^^21:21
snwhmikhas, that's likely. Or we'll see a switch to a different one21:21
bobweaverjust use dconf21:21
k1friQUESTION how can i get a nerdy job like you and talk about computers all day long while being paid?21:21
bobweaverthar is it21:21
nicekiwiIs there any plans to i guess regulate how games manage windows in fullscreen in ubuntu? Esp if you have 2  or more screens21:21
bobweaverabd there is code there also21:22
bobweaverand *21:22
bobweaverStandaloneDash.cpp21:22
bobweaverand standalone.cpp21:22
mikhassnwh, sure, but imagine the outrage it would create if Canonical/Ubuntu was switching from nautilus to say, dolphin21:22
neurowhhhhhhoops-a-daisy!21:22
bobweaverboth of which are not rendering the correct window size21:22
Annnonnn2QUESTION: What's the future of Unity previews? Will there be any interesting developments there?21:22
nicekiwiOMG its soooo annoying!!! Come sup too much21:23
Annnonnn2Like it being actually more useful, since for most things it doesn't do much.21:23
snwhmikhas, I wasn't thinking Dolphin per se, haha.21:23
popeysee http://errors.ubuntu.com/21:23
mikhasJorge is right21:24
mikhasI experience most crashes during office hours, when I don't want to spend time reporting bugs.21:25
RobinJgood night, guys21:25
balloonsmikhas, is it a full on dialog crsh report?21:25
xnoxto me the strange thing is how constant precise is, even though we SRU bugfixes.21:25
mikhasballoons, come again?21:26
neurofood and Raiders of the Lost Ark for me ... might be back later :)21:27
xnox"a real rolling release"21:27
snwhd0od, bring in the kitty21:28
jcastro_http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport21:28
jcastro_useful for when you want to get work done ^^^21:28
mikhasQUESTION: Does the QA slow down actual feature development? Compared to say, pre 10.04 times?21:29
k1friqa is sexy!21:29
mikhasI dont care.21:29
* xnox yes....21:29
zoopstermhall119: just saw your request...I had to run pick up my kids...listening in again...21:30
Annnonnn2QUESTION: When will Wayland replace X on Ubuntu?21:30
RobinJOne last QUESTION; Has any one you been into the development of Ubuntu ever since the beginning?21:31
mivoligoQUESTION: Will this very hangout be available later on YouTube?21:31
mhall119zoopster: would you like to join later this evening to talk about MyApps and stuff?21:31
mikhasthanks Nic21:31
bobweaverlol21:31
stevenwill it be ever ready? :P21:31
jcastro_mivoligo, yeah, they make it available21:31
mivoligojcastro_: thanks21:32
xnoxit's like a real TV news channel.21:32
ajmitchjcastro_: you make UDU sound like such a long time ago :)21:32
mikhasstorytime!21:32
jcastro_I know man, lol21:32
mikhasthis one is good21:32
Annnonnn2QUESTION: Is the 200 million users still a realistic goal by 2014?21:32
tenachhahaha21:33
mikhasAnnnonnn2, only needs to grow by 2.5 then21:33
Annnonnn2Really? Is the number that big now?21:33
xnoxAnnnonnn2: do you think we don't have that already?!21:33
Annnonnn2I though it was more around 20 million, or at least I remember reading so somewhere21:34
mikhasaccording to optimistic estimates that say there are 60mio Ubuntu installations, mhall119 will of course go for the pessimistic estimate of some 20 mio installations ;-)21:34
mhall119mikhas: :P21:34
mikhasbut 60mio to 200mio in 1.3 years is not so unrealistic21:34
zoopstermhall119: sure...it would need to be after midnight utc21:34
mhall119zoopster: works for me21:34
sheik@daniel: handy ;-)21:34
Annnonnn2No, if it's 60, then it seems likely21:34
stevenQUESTION: What do you guys think about the "usr-move" and are you planning on "implementing" it as well?21:34
majster-plQUESTION: Is there any chance to update some of pictures for apps in USC ? a lot of them are out of date and don't look attractive. ( they looks OLD )  is there chance we/community can help with that ?21:34
mikhasAnnnonnn2, the harder question is: how to measure install base?21:34
helder_raptormhall119: RaspBerryPi, Is ubuntu for it under development? I feel its the next big thing.21:35
xnoxsteven: well until initramfs-utils supports we can't do it. I didn't happen yet.21:35
czajkowskimhall119: why cant we get those stores in EU21:35
k1friQUESTION how many employees does canonical have?21:35
xnoxMichael, not PCs but 5% laptops. And not sold, but shipped from the factory which is not the same =)21:35
popeyk1fri, ~58021:35
BillynkidYour big in Uganda21:35
bobweaverQuestion: For all the new comers that are going to UDS for the 1st time. What are some pointers that you all can give ?21:36
mhall119czajkowski: no idea21:36
mhall119czajkowski: ask popey21:36
mikhasbobweaver, it's in Copenhagen, Europe21:36
mikhas;-)21:36
mikhaspointer enough?21:36
stevenxenox: just curious what you guys think about it in general and if you would like to go the same way21:36
mhall119mikhas: he knows21:36
popeyoh, we've gone over 600 employees!21:36
Annnonnn2Well, there's nothing here in Prague. Like not a single thing.21:36
mikhasOh yeah, and Copenhagen is a nice city and you can go to Malmø quickly from there21:36
xnoxpopey: yeah ;-) hence my email bit.21:37
Sweetsha1kbobweaver: first UDS? sleep a week before it.21:37
popeyI was employee 493 a year ago21:37
popeyNexphone d0od21:37
mikhasFun fact: UDS has more attendees than GUADEC it seems21:37
Annnonnn2It's still on $3,306, so that's probably not happenning21:37
dholbachbah, ubuntu got confused with 4 soundcards attached21:37
dholbachI guess I'll restart :-(21:37
xnoxdholbach: quantal eh?21:38
mikhasdholbach, say "damn you ubuntu!"21:38
dholbachxnox, yes21:38
xnox=)))21:38
xnoxwhat's omgubuntu's joey's irc nick name?! =)21:38
popeyxnox, d0od21:39
Sweetsha1kdholbach: keep it running, and start recording -- you will generate your best bassdrops ... ;021:39
dholbachI will need to figure out how I can let you hear what I'm doing :)21:39
helder_raptord0od: RaspBerryPi, Is ubuntu for it under development? I feel its the next big thing.21:39
czajkowskimhall119: my best idea ever!21:39
czajkowskijcastro_: no no shave!21:39
xnoxbring spare battery for laptop!21:40
czajkowskibobweaver: remember to sleep at night and take part in sessions, take notes and put your hand up :)21:40
Sweetsha1kbobweaver: Oh yes, and visit all the LibreOffice session and take notes! ;)21:40
* xnox has AC100 Toshiba with lubuntu it's nice =) that one has ARM21:40
BillynkidIt got pretty rubbish reviews21:41
Sweetsha1k(notes on etherpad that is)21:41
Annnonnn2It was severly underpowered21:41
bobweaverlol21:41
black_puppydogQUESTION: are you working with dell on sputnik?21:42
popeyblack_puppydog, yes21:42
xnoxQUESTION: can we pivot Jorges camera to find the sticky notes with his passwords? =)21:42
helder_raptor+jono: RaspBerryPi, Is ubuntu for it under development? I feel its the next big thing.21:42
majster-plQUESTION: Is there any chance to update some of pictures for apps in USC ? a lot of them are out of date and don't look attractive. ( they looks OLD )  is there chance we/community can help with that ?21:42
Annnonnn2QUESTION: What about Ubuntu Tablets/Ubuntu Phones? There hasn't been much news there.21:42
popey!!!21:42
phillwQUESTION... Rasberry Pi ?21:42
k1fri@where does most development happen? in california?21:43
popeyJoey asks Jono "Have I ruined your meat?"21:43
k1fri QUESTION where does most development happen? in california?21:43
bobweavermajster-pl,  I have made a bug about that it is on debian not ubuntu21:43
balloonshttp://screenshots.ubuntu.com/21:44
balloonsit will go to debian and ubuntu :-)21:44
xnoxYou can run Quantal on RaspBerryPi it's actually compatible using armel.21:44
popeypffft21:44
popeyrpi is old21:44
mikhaspopey, how many do you have now? 4?21:44
xnoxbut yeah raspberrypi is slow.21:45
popeyhehe21:45
popeyonly two21:45
dpmSweetsha1k, are you doing a LO session for the marathon?21:45
bobweaverpandaboard ?21:45
aquariusscreenshots vague thing: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil/+junk/needed-screenshots-2 is an app which finds apps you've got installed which don't have screenshots and tells you about them. I never got around to completely finishing it and packaging it, but someone may find it useful21:45
BillynkidHow about a Ouya Ubuntu Game/TV Console21:45
xnoxQuantal + Lubuntu + armel should be possible to run on raspberrypi, but rasbian is a better distro. It's optimised for raspberry.21:45
popeyooh, video stopped?21:45
aquariushangout is dead, ish?21:46
Sabpocalypseyea jus lost vid21:46
black_puppydoghere too... :(21:46
popeyOUTRAGE!21:46
popeyetc21:46
Annnonnn2Thank god, I though it was just me21:46
helder_raptorbut here in india its the best product yet for a large population to learn computing as a huge part of the population cant afford a computer21:46
fazzaanahh I thought it was my internet being a dick like last night21:46
popeyyes, blame Annnonnn221:46
phillwwait a couple of mins, then refresh :)21:46
Sabpocalypseoutrage tomfoolery even21:46
xnoxbobweaver: pandaboard is the demo, the Ubuntu Desktop Demo Platform. In quantal it's amazing with hardware accelerated Unity ;-)21:46
tedgUbuntu Marathon drinking game.  Everytime jono says "let's look at Unity as an example" ;-)21:46
popeyphillw, we are the internet, we do not know the meaning of "wait"21:46
popeywe know F5 though21:46
mhall119I think we hit our 4-hour limit, going to start a new hangout21:46
balloonstime to restart the hangout21:47
snwhI get worried everytime that happens its my ISP haha21:47
mhall119please stand by21:47
bobweaverxnox,  Yeah I see things about that on linaro all the time21:47
balloonshang tight for a moment, then refresh the page in a min21:47
phillwpopey: go complain to google :P21:47
* popey shakes fists at the cloud21:47
mhall119YouTube limits on-air broadcasts to 4 hours21:47
fazzaanhas there always been a 4 hour limit on HoAs?21:47
popeyfazzaan, used to be shorter21:47
sabpocalypseburtal cant get vid back21:47
xnoxpopey: the cloud puffs around popey =)21:47
* xnox probably to prevent people leaving it on as home surveillance / cctv.21:48
da_ravioligood night guys!21:48
czajkowskistill not back :(21:49
H20takes a min I guess21:49
popeyczajkowski, nearly21:49
Annnonnn2Will I have to reconnect?21:50
popeyrefresh the page21:50
Annnonnn2That is reload21:50
Annnonnn2Dammit21:50
phillwon the plus side.... nearly 4,000 GBP been raised fot charities :)21:50
Annnonnn2Just an off question, they mentioned that the ARB is lacking volunteers, any specific requirements to volunteer there?21:51
snwheveryone is powernapping21:52
balloonsk, should be live again21:52
balloonsrefresh your pages :-p21:52
bobweaveryeah jono21:52
tenachI see ya21:52
Annnonnn2It's not working!21:53
d0odpopey: :D21:53
tenachThere's an echo!21:53
fazzaandat echo, it burns21:54
majster-plecho21:54
bobweaverlol the moning people ing th background !!21:54
bobweavermoving *21:54
d0odbobweaver: Ha i know21:54
d0odcomedy gold21:54
d0odwaiting for them to drop something21:54
black_puppydogwaaah, what about sputnik now? missed the last minutes...21:54
Annnonnn2Where any other questions answered?21:54
balloonssputnik will be asnwered in a moment21:55
tenachHahahaha21:55
Annnonnn2What about the tablet/phone bit?21:55
black_puppydogexactly :)21:55
aquariusI like how everyone else is in some sort of standard looking living room and czajkowski looks like she's in a completely empty North Korean jail. :-)21:56
tenachaquarius: +121:57
black_puppydogi would choose the description "favourite nondescript location"... :)21:57
aquariusgoldarnit, the airport car park doesn't have any spaces left!21:57
neurogood lord ...21:57
neuroi went out for some cigs and wildlife had a go at me21:57
neuronearly ran over a cat in my street21:57
neuronearly ran over a fox on the main road21:57
tenachjcastro_: What are the requirements to help?21:58
neurothen coming back home I drove right over a hedgehog21:58
rewritableheh21:58
neuro(luckily between the wheels, so he was OK, I double checked)21:58
H20__lol neuro thats hilarious21:58
black_puppydogwhooo, club mate for the win! :)21:58
rewritableHow are accessibility features doing these days in Ubuntu?21:58
czajkowskiaquarius: i'll deal with you tomorrow!!21:58
neuropopey is on tv!21:59
* aquarius grins at czajkowski21:59
tenachThanks jcastro_21:59
neurojcastro_: there's no furniture in your house, are you squatting?!21:59
jcastro_hah yeah21:59
Annnonnn2I'm thinking of staying up just to see how you look.22:00
Annnonnn2But I like my sleep.22:00
tenachAnnnonnn2: I'm staying up to see it. XD22:00
fazzaanfalling asleep in hangouts is fun ^_^ I feel like staying up to watch.22:00
stevenyou should join daniel and get some beer as well, i promise it'll get funny in a couple of hours if u keep up drinking22:01
tenach:D22:01
stevennothing is as funny as a bunch of drunken developers22:01
tenachsteven: +1!22:01
tenachsteven: That's why I love going to conferences.22:01
pewtahyoutube livestream still down?22:01
tenachNo, it's up.22:01
black_puppydogsteven: nor is there anything so potentially productive ;)22:01
pewtah?!22:01
pewtahorly?22:01
tenachI'm watching it.22:01
Annnonnn2Just refresh22:01
stevenofc they will be productive22:02
pewtahTried that. gonna restart flashplayer plugin + nightly. :P22:02
steventhey just gotta get a good QA team up22:02
tenachHow does one kick their LoCo team into gear if it is inactive? :(22:02
jcastro_ok weird, I can hear eeveryone but jono22:03
tenachIt just went down jcastro_22:03
jonojcastro_, restart22:03
bobweaverbargh22:03
neurotiming!22:03
Annnonnn2Dammit22:03
stevennow we never get to know what he was going to say22:03
bobweaverstreams down22:03
aquariushave removed jono's beard in the Gimp and without it he looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/9g9nh7k22:03
Annnonnn2I wanted to hear this oen.22:03
tenachaquarius: hahaha22:03
neuroaquarius: rofl22:03
jonobobweaver, really?22:03
jonoisnt it up?22:03
bobweaveryeah22:03
tenachjono: "We'll be right back"22:03
zoopsterheh...potty break?22:03
aquariushangout is down with a "we'll be right back" error messae.22:03
majster-plaquarius: haha22:03
jonodamn22:03
nik90yup hangout's down22:04
black_puppydogdo google and canonical have issues at the moment?22:04
rewritablehangout interlude22:04
stevenand again guys, time to grab some beer!22:04
tenachSo the echo I hear is my boss now watching too... hahaha22:04
bobweaverhttp://imagebin.org/23092422:04
stevennow is the time22:04
dholbachballoons, can you rejoin?22:04
Annnonnn2Any chance of the on-air thingy becoming a biweekly event? An hour here and there22:04
jonohang on folks22:04
neuro"The live recording you're trying to play is still being processed by our cluster of Acorn Electrons and Commodore VIC-20s and will be available soon."22:04
* tenach is hanging on.22:04
rewritableis this when they serve icecream?22:04
neuroBEFORE the ribs?!22:05
tenachit's back!22:05
Annnonnn2They're faking it and just went back to sleep22:05
popey:D22:05
nik90its b22:05
popeyshhh!22:05
stevenits up again22:05
black_puppydogdarnd, lost the hats in the process i guess...22:05
rewritableback22:05
balloonssorry mates.. my internet just died hard22:05
xnoxLAURA! LAURA! =)22:06
mhall119http://loco.ubuntu.com/22:07
black_puppydogawesome side show about a guy arranging furniture in an empty room running below the main video :D22:07
stevenat least the guys are working22:07
stevendon't worry, we'll tell you if they try to steal your stuff22:08
black_puppydogkind of expecting jono to appear in the screen to his right...22:12
mhall119#ubuntu-locoteams is the IRC channel22:12
tenachWhat can someone do to revitalize their LoCo? The one in my state seems rather dead and/or dormant.22:12
steventhrow a bbq22:12
tenachI haven't been able to get in contact with the people leading.22:13
Annnonnn2What's the deal with approved/unapproved teams?22:13
stevenNew Teams - these are teams that are in the process of getting started and have not yet been officially approved as an Ubuntu LoCo team.22:13
stevenApproved Teams - an approved team is a team that is up and running, has each of the required resources in operation and the team is working well.22:13
Annnonnn2Thanks, I wasn't sure what unapporved meant in this case22:14
dholbach¡¡¡   £ 4021.57   !!!22:14
steventhey just gonna answer it anyway22:14
steven: )22:14
helder_raptorwhat should i do to create up a local team with 10 members22:15
steventhat sounds a bit like a religious movement, doesn't it?22:16
black_puppydogmy gosh, how does alan manage to do such great audio streaming for the uk podcast with this connection?22:19
mhall119#ubuntu-locoteams is the IRC channel22:19
xnox(step 1) get people: real live or over irc (step 2) hang out and have fun (step 3) there is no step 3 =)))))22:19
fazzaanI was staying literally around the corner from the CA UDS and I missed it by 1 day :(22:22
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Annnonnn2Damn, it's late here. I hope I'll be up again for the 6 AM session. Bye!22:24
black_puppydogdammit, stockholm is pretty late, too... thanks for the sessions! gn822:26
tenachIt got all quiet in here.22:32
tenachthe Washington LoCo (state)22:32
tenachThanks!22:35
dholbachgo daker! go go go! :)22:36
dakerdholbach: for what :D ?22:37
* Cimi heads balloons dholbach dpm jono mhall119 jcastro_ a pair of http://goo.gl/1ygcj and goes to bed :)22:37
dholbachdaker, you're a hero!22:37
tenachThanks! I'll keep trying to get in touch with WA LoCo people to get it going again.22:37
dakerdholbach: hah :D22:37
Cimithose glasses are classic!22:37
balloonsgood night Cimi  :-)22:37
dholbachdaker, شكرا، أخي!22:37
dpmnight Cimi, we're not looking like that yet, but we're on our way ;)22:38
Cimikeep on guys22:38
Cimiahaha22:38
phillwQUESTION: does the LoCo team structure have it ruled in that a new LoCo is not seen as a threat when in geographic areas?22:38
dakerdholbach: thumbs up :)22:38
mhall119phillw: what do you mean?22:38
tenachClose-proximity LoCos, I think he's referencing mhall119 .22:39
tenachNot competing for members, etc.22:39
tenachPromote working together.22:39
tenachOr I could be completely off. phillw ?22:39
dholbachdpm, Alter, ich zieh gleich 'ne Sonnenbrille an - vielleicht sieht man dann nicht, dass ich die Augen zu hab und penne :-)22:41
dpmdholbach, ich wurde gerne es auch machen, oder so: http://goo.gl/1ygcj22:42
dholbachHAHAHAHA22:43
dholbachgenau daran hab ich auch gedacht :)22:43
dpmvon Cimi ^^22:43
dholbachsuper22:43
PeterMI am going to bed... but well done team! keep going!22:43
bobweaver <sound effect> cheer for popey </sound effect >   :)22:44
* popey hugs bobweaver 22:44
dholbach:)22:45
dpmpopey, ant asked me to help him with updating translations for the ubuntu-online-tour. May I ask you to add me to the ubuntu-online-tour-team, so I can commit the .pot file directly to the branch?22:45
thumpercompletely failing to load your video on the link above22:45
popeydpm, sure22:45
dholbachdoes the video work for anyone else?22:46
senshikazeworks here22:46
bobweaverdholbach,  yeah all good here22:46
dholbachthumper, can you hard-refresh the page?22:46
thumperdholbach: yeah, tried that a couple of times too22:47
dholbachweird22:47
Cimipopey: I wanna see your cats or you might not be the real popey22:47
tenachFriendly competition is good.22:47
dholbachthumper, does http://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir?v=dDkbD2gpf-M work?22:47
popeyCimi, haha22:47
Cimihaha22:48
tenachhahahaha22:48
ajmitchthumper: wfm, if that's any use :)22:48
ajmitchactually no it doesn't now, yay22:48
thumperajmitch: interestingly, works on my laptop, but not my server22:48
phillwsoz tenach mhall119 yes, it was about LoCos being 'too close together'... Good to hear they are discussing it. (Sorry, was afk wrapping up my Dad's B/day presents wrapped :)22:48
* ajmitch is hearing cats22:49
* Cimi ahahahahha22:49
thumperajmitch: that's popey22:49
jcastro_popey, can you show your cat?22:49
* dholbach <3 Elvis22:50
rewritablecat show and tell22:50
dakerand guess what, i have found a picture of dholbach, posting it rightnow!22:50
popeylol22:50
dholbachdaker, what what?22:50
tenachI do know in the states around here, they broke up the PNW group so we had to be AK/WA/ID/OR. :(22:51
k1friQUESTION: what is it? you don't have so much women with you??22:51
tenachI think the CoC helps mitigate a lot of potential issues.22:52
tenachAt least publicly.22:52
ajmitchthumper: so I suppose the NZ loco should do something one day :)22:53
PabloRubianesQUESTION: Is there any work on how different languages are handle in the community? not everyone speaks English, many people don't report bug or test or other because of that22:53
thumperajmitch: nah...22:54
phillw:QUESTION: the NEW C-o-C arriving is finalising its discussion stage, Any Views on that?22:54
ajmitchsaying morning is probably enough for now, we don't want to rush into things22:54
autoditac@dholbach: dinner was great and you guys rock in general, vegan or omnivour, so rock on!22:55
tenachYou guys all rock, btw.22:55
* dholbach hugs autoditac22:55
dholbachautoditac, you rock too my friend :)22:55
daker1...2...322:55
dholbachwow22:56
dholbachWOW22:56
dakerGO http://s004.radikal.ru/i208/1105/d6/8cff0f8358f9.gif22:57
dholbachdaker, haha, very funny22:57
dholbachawesome22:57
tenachgood night popey !22:57
tenacherk22:57
popey:D22:59
jonoquestion for Rick Spencer?23:01
popeydpm, all sorted?23:01
mikhaspopey, nice job23:01
senshikazeQUESTION: Are you all excited about Valve releasing Steam on Linux?23:01
popeymikhas, thanks23:01
dpmpopey, yep, great, thanks!23:02
thumpergenerally clueless?23:02
thumperwho is writing these?23:02
ranting_noobgoodevening guys23:02
mikhas:-)23:02
* thumper looks at jono23:02
balloonsthumper, lol23:02
mikhasI would think you write that yourself.23:02
balloonsindeed ^^23:02
ranting_noobcould anyone tell me what the hell is going on? It's the #1 question on OMG!Ubuntu23:02
thumperhi akgraner23:03
popey:)23:03
MillerManWhy is there no Netflix yet on Ubuntu if Steam can come on why not Netflix?23:03
akgranerthumper  heya!  how are you?23:03
thumperakgraner: getting over a virus, but generally OK :)23:03
jonoquestions?23:03
snwhMillerMan silverlight...23:04
jcastro_luisalvarado, ask away23:04
ranting_noob@MillerMan: IIRC, it's because the Netflix guys didn't want to go the Linux route23:04
akgranerthumper, glad you're feeling better23:04
ranting_noobIt has nothing to do with Canonical's efforts23:04
MillerManthen why could Google get it on there Chrome OS23:04
MillerManit can not just be silverlight23:05
ranting_noobWell, that's sort of Netflix' idea23:05
ranting_noobIIRC, it's sort of an add-on, installed in Chrome23:05
jcastro_it's not a technical issue it's a licensing issue23:05
MillerManyeah but would there not be more people to come on Ubuntu if Netflix came to it?23:05
ranting_noobI don't know why it can't be in Ubuntu23:05
bobweaverQUESTION: What about unity 3d (4.0) gaming is canonical working with them at all ?23:05
snwhI would probably use Netflix if it were supported on Ubuntu.23:06
jcastro_http://jacksonh.tumblr.com/post/965806498/how-to-watch-netflix-streaming-movies-on-linux-with23:06
snwhThat and steam were my reasons for having a windows partition23:06
MillerManwhy would not canonical not put any effort to get Netflix on Ubuntu23:06
MillerManthank you :-)23:06
balloonsamazon video  :-)23:06
luisalvaradoQUESTION:  What has been talked about for compiz/unity regressions in the 6.x, at least the 6.4 and 6.6 versions in relation to video performance, specially intel.23:07
mikhasMillerMan, dont you have that backwards?23:07
mikhasconvince Netflix to put effort into it23:07
mikhasnot Canonical23:07
UnderControlmhall119 what do you mean by if everyone will beat Jono?23:07
MillerManok thank you Rick for your answer23:08
akgranerjcastro, tell Jill hi!23:08
mhall119UnderControl: each of us has a charity we're raising money for, if each of the rest of us raises more than jono, Popey goes bald23:08
senshikazethanks for your answers, rick23:08
UnderControlMhall119 ahh, this well be interesting :D23:08
w1ngnutQUESTION: There are a lot of efforts from Canonical to make development easier on Ubuntu: quickly, ground control, scripts, etc. But they don't seem as integrated as it could be and sometimes the development/bug fixeing process becomes more complex than it should be - at least for a beginner. Why not put more effort in an integrated development environment to achieve a more complete Ide? (Such as pydev was created to accelerat23:09
tenachSteam is the last leg for most people I know, that keep them back from Linux.23:09
mikhasValve at UDS, hah23:09
phillwQUESTION: Is there still an engagement to keep ppc systems? aka Lubuntu which is for older kit.23:09
MALsI'm definitely switching to ubuntu full time once Steam comes on. Gaming is the only thing holding me back.23:09
popeydpm, John Pugh was on stage at a Unity 3D event - Unite23:10
bobweaver \o/23:10
wxldid someone say… ppc?23:11
man_haengQUESTION: Are you working with google to know why HangOuts are having so many problems on Linux? Like sharing Desktop for example... We make a streamming program about linux every two week.23:11
man_haeng#linuxIO23:11
bobweaverif steam and unity are here UDK comes next I feel23:11
mhall119bkerensa: ^^ are you letting your Google contact know about the issues with hangouts we've had?23:11
luisalvaradoQUESTION:  What has been talked about for compiz/unity regressions in the 6.x, at least the 6.4 and 6.6 versions in relation to video performance, specially intel.23:11
mikhasluisalvarado, heh, I sometimes fallback to metacity because of that …23:12
ranting_noobQUESTION: Steam is coming to Ubuntu. There will be a Steam Software Center (or something like that). Do you think that there will be competition between the Steam software center and the Ubuntu software center? Are you guys planning any sort of integration with the Ubuntu software center?23:12
dpmpopey, I know, I know. My fault, sorry, I should have mentioned I was forwarding bobweaver's question23:13
w1ngnutthx for the question..23:14
senshikazewhy not just latch onto eclipse? I would think it would be easier than starting from scratch23:14
jonoany further questions, folks, so I can get them in the queue23:15
mikhasEclipse already feels too complex to ever be a convincing IDE23:16
mikhasPart of the problem being that Eclipse tries to target all platforms.23:16
dakerat the moment i use Sublime Text 223:16
jderoseQUESTION: how is Rick Spencer so awesome? :)23:16
mikhasVisual Studio only targets Windows, guess why it is so much better than ahyting Ecliplse-based?23:16
mhall119hey jderose!23:16
senshikazedaker: me too ;-)23:16
bobweaverqtcreator ??23:16
bobweavergreat stuff23:16
jderosehi mhall119 :)23:17
mikhasI love qtcreator myself, but sadly it only targets Qt23:17
senshikazehas anyone messed around with the new gtk animations and transitions?23:17
mikhas(not even C++, even though it easily could, I think)23:17
popeyI'm off to bed. Don't make me shave my hair when I get up!23:17
bobweavercya popey23:17
mikhasand yet, qtcreator wont help you to get your applications published in Ubuntu23:17
akgranerjderose, quit sucking up :-P23:18
mikhasit is actually quite sad what Rick has to say about the developer experience …23:18
snwhI think Rick has had his walls painted ubuntu orange.23:19
akgranerjderose,  j/k :-)23:19
w1ngnutyep. Great!23:19
dpmnight popey!23:19
MillerManhey what happened23:21
MillerManlooks like the stream stopped23:21
mhall119has it stopped for anybody else?23:22
jonostream down?23:22
jcastro_working here23:22
senshikazeworking here23:22
jonocool23:22
mhall119MillerMan: try refreshing the page23:22
jonofurther questions?23:23
jcastro_luisalvarado had a question23:23
jonoremember you can ask about anything you like :-)23:23
luisalvaradoQUESTION:  What has been talked about for compiz/unity regressions in the 6.x, at least the 6.4 and 6.6 versions in relation to video performance, specially intel.23:23
jcastro_about unity quality23:23
ArgozWhen will we get Ubuntu TV23:25
senshikazeso does this mean you ARE going to talk to google? ;-)23:25
akgranertooo funny!23:25
senshikazeQUESTION: (by Argoz) When will we get Ubuntu TV (I would like to add Ubuntu for Android as well)23:26
balloonsluisalvarado, 6.8 is coming out in the next hours23:28
ArgozYes, Ubuntu for android and TV is on the main site, when will it be tangible?23:28
balloonsit does have some fixes for compiz/unity in it23:28
luisalvaradoQUESTION: Although Unity 6.8 came out a couple of hours ago, does benchmarks used in the openbenchmark site by phoronix help in any way discover regressions?23:28
w1ngnutQUESTION: Jono in his latest post mentioned 'Automated Testing'. How was it done and how is it going to be different in the future - for the better? How can the community be engaged and help?23:29
ranting_noobThanks for answering my question guys :-)23:30
jderose:P23:30
dakerhi mhall119 dpm dholbach jono balloons i have a challenge for you, if the team raises £ 5K, you will do the Gangnam Style live :D23:30
senshikazewas that a cop out? ;-)23:32
ArgozI shall stay tuned ;D23:32
snwhjcastro_ http://www.dramabutton.com/23:33
senshikazewe don't have one as far as i know in miss.23:33
OneArmedNoodlerI live in Olympia... you suck.23:33
senshikazewe have a lug, but its mostly just techs23:33
dpmdaker, not sure about that ;)23:34
dpmAny more questions anyone?23:34
senshikazeIt's not a bug, but a feature?23:35
jderosewebkitgtk for the ui23:35
jderosethe backend stuff is all HTTP client server stuff23:35
anothervisitorHi. Short question. Are there problems with the ubuntu.com servers? My laptop can't connect to them 1hr ago.23:35
senshikazewow. buuuurn23:36
JoseeAntonioRanothervisitor: seems not23:36
jonoother questions?23:36
dholbachQUESTION: Anything from France you really miss? :)23:37
mikhas@Rick: that's still the development model of some other company behind a popular Linux distro ;-)23:37
anothervisitorThx. My wish for ubuntu, Don't concentrate on mobiles. I haven't one, only real pc('s) and some are very old...23:38
jonoother questions?23:38
jonoremember you can ask about anything23:38
mikhasjono, you could ask Rick whether he's aware of how much of a pain bzr is becoming for the success of Launchpad23:38
senshikazeQUESTION: why does lp bug 1042137 give me a 404?23:38
mikhasbut that's sadly a flamebait23:38
jonoCanonical, Ubuntu, App Devs, anything else23:38
balloonsthe site rick is referring to: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/23:38
JoseeAntonioRsenshikaze: maybe it's private23:38
JoseeAntonioRtake this as an Ask Rick! session!23:39
senshikazeJoseeAntonioR: sooo, i just need to wait for a vinagre release? :-(23:39
JoseeAntonioRcan be23:39
tenachHi JoseeAntonioR !23:40
JoseeAntonioRhi again, tenach :)23:40
mikhasThe integration test that Rick just explains takes exponential amount of time, for each package …23:40
OneArmedNoodlerQUESTION: How can a poor, broke sales engineer, like myself, help the dev team most effectively?23:40
jderosetesting reverse dependencies is an excellent idea23:40
tenach:D23:40
tenach!23:40
tenachThat is awesome23:40
mikhasjderose, I would still refine that approach23:40
mikhas1. integrate all apps with zero rdepends, 2. integrate all apps with 1 rdepends, 3. …23:41
w1ngnutThat's a great idea. I thought it was already part of that process...23:41
mikhasIE, start with the least invasive apps, then slowly crawl towards core (where each package will require more tests to run)23:41
mikhasQUESTION: Which framework is used for UI tests in Unity?23:42
mikhasI must have missed that …23:43
balloonsmikhas, autopilot, https://launchpad.net/autopilot23:43
ajmitchmikhas: autopilot is the one he was just talking about23:43
mikhasah thanks23:43
senshikazeQUESTIONS: is wayland replacing X still on the roadmap?23:43
anothervisitorUnity (PC): I dislike that i cant modify the menubar with some sensors i wish.23:43
mikhasautopilot didnt click as a project name with me23:43
mikhasUbuntu seems to get no credit for testing jhbuild, the one tool that helps to build GNOME23:46
mikhasat least I haven't seen any blog post on planet.gnome.org thanking Canonical for the CI infra23:46
mikhasanyway, I need to sleep, have fun!23:47
jcastro_anothervisitor, what sensor are you looking for?23:47
w1ngnutGreat guys. Thx for the explanations...23:48
anothervisitorCPU-Load, HW-Temp(lm or acpi) diskusage and so. But i only found indicator-multiload. Nothing else worked.23:49
anothervisitorand this indicator conflicts if i start a kubuntu session where it should not be started.23:50
snwhanothervisitor you could try this: https://launchpad.net/indicator-sensors23:51
akgraneryay - +1 for the end users!!! :-) (but I am a little bias)23:52
anothervisitorThnx. Will try this tomorrow.23:52
snwhanothervisitor no problem23:53
sebsebsebI think thats the case for lots of distros and other opensource/freesoftware projects as well, its about having at least some  users :)23:53
OneArmedNoodlerThanks!23:53
snwhThat's why I try to convert people to Ubuntu :)23:54
snwhusually successfully.23:54
senshikazesen-shi-ka-ze23:55
senshikazeno problem23:55
anothervisitorI used linux since '91 on my homeservers and since 1-2 years on desktop/laptop. And it works;surprisingly  mostly great - with a few problems of course.23:55
EnamexHey guys. Just wanted to know your say on a community where in kids primary school are taught to use Windows, in mid-school Office and in high school Visual Basic.23:56
EnamexSimply put, non of my friends/relatives/acquaintances ever heard of Ubuntu. Some of the older guys did but that's through their own means. Through official schooling only MS sw is known to students, raised on it, if you will. I just want an opinion.23:56
sebsebsebanothervisitor: yep most distros are quite stable etc :)23:56
senshikazecool. thanks for answering!23:57
snwhI think teaching some programming/computer science in schools is a good idea. in any form23:57
anothervisitori am; historically; debian-near oriented. Step to ubuntu was logic. I was surprised how good it worked.23:57
sebsebsebsnwh: indeed hence the Rassberry Pi for example23:57
snwhsebsebseb and Arduino23:58
anothervisitorBut it has some points where it is not as comfortable as windows.23:58
tenachIt was awesome hearing from you rick!23:58
w1ngnutnight. thx!23:58
sebsebsebsnwh: read about somethign similar the other night, but not quite, may have been that,  goes in USB this similar device as well23:59

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