| Cheri703 | we haven't heard back from andygraybeal...hopefully he didn't die in a terrible scythe accident... | 02:52 |
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| Unit193 | Cheri703: You ever do anything with that rackmounted server? | 03:43 |
| Cheri703 | disposed of it :/ it was SO big and SO INCREDIBLY loud, and super underpowered :/ I harvested some parts and took it to the recycling place | 03:44 |
| Cheri703 | I do still have that monitor if you want it though :) | 03:44 |
| Unit193 | Reminds me to take a look at what I have in the basement... | 03:45 |
| Cheri703 | Unit193: at OLF I met drkokandy, who lives in Ashland | 03:52 |
| Cheri703 | we should discuss at some point what a good time/place for Ubuntu Hour would be | 03:52 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, came in here (and still seems to be here...) | 03:52 |
| Unit193 | Sounds good. | 03:52 |
| drkokandy | hey - what's up? | 03:52 |
| Unit193 | We link to ping random people to see if they're alive. ;) | 03:53 |
| drkokandy | got my attention :) | 03:53 |
| drkokandy | Nice to meet you - hello from up the road | 03:53 |
| Unit193 | Sorry for you, and howdy. | 03:55 |
| drkokandy | let me know if you do want to put together a nice Ubuntu Hour - I'd probably be able to swing down, as long as it's a less crazy week as this has been at work | 03:57 |
| drkokandy | er, than this one has been | 03:57 |
| Cheri703 | I'd be up for meeting closer to downtown, as that's closer to me, Unit193 lives more on the Ontario side of town, but accomodating our new addition, and being *completely* unselfish, downtown might work better ;) | 03:58 |
| Cheri703 | but we'd need to find somewhere with wifi (well, not NEEEEED, but would prefer) | 03:59 |
| Cheri703 | in case o computering | 03:59 |
| Unit193 | Meh, mine is hybrid now, needs a monitor. | 04:00 |
| Unit193 | (So not portable) | 04:00 |
| Cheri703 | ah | 04:01 |
| Cheri703 | I have a not amazing, but usable (with wifi dongle) laptop sitting in a drawer, also another one that needs a new mobo, if you want either of them (I have another that is the same as I sold to your friend, but I think I have that one earmarked for a client) | 04:01 |
| drkokandy | I also have an extra older one I could bring - not that enjoyable, but workable | 04:02 |
| drkokandy | I'm not seeing a lot of places on this wifi finder app around downtown - but sometimes they miss places | 04:02 |
| Cheri703 | k, we sometimes exchange equipment as available :) | 04:02 |
| Unit193 | Well, it's not a bad "desktop", but just not portable. This is a PM 2.16G, 1G ram. | 04:03 |
| Unit193 | Processors seem to fly around... | 04:03 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, there's not a ton around downtown :/ I can wander around next time I'm down there, use my phone to look for some wifi :) | 04:03 |
| Unit193 | Library has it, if nothing else. :P | 04:04 |
| Cheri703 | hehe, I prefer somewhere a. with food, b. that we can talk above a hushed whisper ;) though perhaps we could get a conference room or something | 04:04 |
| Unit193 | Could respin Xubuntu again to be "my" xubuntu, some config and all. | 04:04 |
| drkokandy | Getting a conference room would kind of prevent us from being able to visibly be using Ubuntu in a public place, if that was one of the ideas too... but at least we could chat about it | 04:05 |
| drkokandy | I'd agree food would be ideal | 04:05 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, I have a little table sign I put up in case we get people wandering up or who have seen it on the website (hasn't happened yet though ;) ) | 04:06 |
| Cheri703 | there's a coffee shop, but the only food is like bagels :/ I'll start hunting a bit | 04:06 |
| drkokandy | my 2nd laptop has a Pentium 1.6x2 with 1G of RAM if you'd like me to bring that | 04:06 |
| Unit193 | If you wouldn't mind me using it for the night (that is, if I'd be able to make it and all) | 04:07 |
| drkokandy | that would be fine, also as long as I can make that day :) | 04:08 |
| Cheri703 | Unit193: just set up a live boot usb and plug it in when you get there ;) | 04:15 |
| Cheri703 | Unit193: are you familiar with "uncle john's place" downtown? | 04:15 |
| Cheri703 | I might check it out for lunch at some point and go from there | 04:16 |
| Cheri703 | anyone have moral objections to McD's? | 04:16 |
| Cheri703 | the one on trimble might work? | 04:16 |
| drkokandy | I don't know Uncle John's Place, but I have no moral objections to McD's | 04:17 |
| Cheri703 | ok, McD's might work, cheap, can get real food, a beverage, whatever, has wifi, has places that multiple people can sit in a group. I like panera better, but it's harder for me to get to | 04:22 |
| Cheri703 | (I am car free, I have a way to get around, but panera is on the far edge of my usual range) | 04:22 |
| drkokandy | I agree Panera might be a better place - but if it's easier for you two I'm flexible - it's not a huge difference for me, but McD would be closer | 04:25 |
| Cheri703 | if 2 of 3 can get to panera easier, I can get myself there :) I just have to plan in advance | 04:27 |
| Cheri703 | I use a recumbent trike with an electic hub motor, not an amazing range on it, so I have to make sure I'm not using up the battery that day :) | 04:27 |
| drkokandy | Oh. OK - like I said, I'm flexible, so if would make it easier for you, I can do the McD too. No worries | 04:35 |
| Cheri703 | eh, we can see what days work and go from there. :) I'm available preeeetty much whenever | 04:37 |
| drkokandy | sounds good. I could make it to Mansfield by ~5:30 or so most days. Mondays generally wouldn't work for me, and I have the rare work event in the evening, but those aren't often | 04:40 |
| drkokandy | So pretty much Tuesday-Friday would work | 04:40 |
| drkokandy | I'll need to call it a night, but if you two decide on something, let me know & I'll be there. | 04:49 |
| drkokandy | Looking forward to it! | 04:49 |
| Cheri703 | sounds good! Thanks! | 04:54 |
| Unit193 | Cheri703: No. | 04:59 |
| Cheri703 | no what? | 04:59 |
| Unit193 | Uncle John's Place | 04:59 |
| Unit193 | Never heard of it, that is. | 05:00 |
| Cheri703 | ah | 05:01 |
| Cheri703 | ok | 05:01 |
| andygraybeal | Cheri703, haahahaha i didn't die | 11:31 |
| andygraybeal | back for more today! | 11:31 |
| andygraybeal | it's a fun filled week of mowing | 11:31 |
| thafreak | Morning Ohio | 14:08 |
| Melon_Bread | Good Morning | 14:12 |
| thafreak | Melon_Bread: that's a new handle...you new to this room? | 14:19 |
| Melon_Bread | Well I have been idle for a few days here, but yes you could say I am new. XD | 14:20 |
| thafreak | Ah, yes, we all idle down here.... | 14:22 |
| Cheri703 | hola folks | 14:22 |
| thafreak | sup Cheri703 | 14:22 |
| Cheri703 | not too much, starting my work day | 14:22 |
| Melon_Bread | That is always fun | 14:22 |
| * thafreak feels dirty... | 14:29 | |
| * thafreak is running a windows 7 vm just to use outlook | 14:29 | |
| thafreak | gah, it makes me feel even worse typing that out | 14:29 |
| thafreak | I so hate the CIO or VP or whatever idiot decided to force me to use outlook | 14:30 |
| thafreak | what a waste of 1GB of ram... | 14:30 |
| Cheri703 | hehe, I run a win7 vm just for netflix | 14:35 |
| dzho | thafreak: evolution doesn't cut it? | 14:40 |
| Melon_Bread | I really wish companies would open open up a bit. (I am forced to use Outlook as well) | 14:45 |
| dzho | Melon_Bread: same question to you | 14:46 |
| Melon_Bread | No I would like to use evolution | 14:47 |
| Melon_Bread | but at work I am locked in to Outlook | 14:47 |
| dzho | I ask because it's supposed to play well with Exchange and have a lot of Outlookish features | 14:47 |
| dzho | so I'm wondering what it's missing | 14:47 |
| dzho | "I am locked in" gets you my sympathy :) but I don't learn much more from it | 14:48 |
| Melon_Bread | I guess some higher ups just see it as the Mircosoft way or the highway. =\ | 14:49 |
| thafreak | evolution doesn't support exchange 2010 | 14:56 |
| thafreak | i'd rather use thunderbird | 14:57 |
| thafreak | but they disabled imap support | 14:57 |
| thafreak | we're using a hosted exchange...that supports imap...but the "geniuses" in the IS department deemed it "un secure" or something | 14:57 |
| thafreak | and requested it to be disabled... | 14:57 |
| thafreak | They want everyone to use outlook...or entourage for the mac users...everyone else,they want them to use the crapy web interface | 14:58 |
| thafreak | Actually, I was using davmail for the last couple of years... | 15:01 |
| thafreak | it provided an imap server, and then talked to exchange via it's web interface | 15:01 |
| thafreak | but they went to a hosted version, which redirects back to us for authentication | 15:01 |
| thafreak | so I can't get it to work anymore | 15:02 |
| dzho | oh, imap is off by default in 2010 | 15:02 |
| dzho | devious so-and-so's | 15:02 |
| dzho | actually, entourage on the mac is old news | 15:03 |
| dzho | they've got outlook for mac, now | 15:03 |
| thafreak | and worse, we're outsourcing it to microsoft...we're using office365 | 15:03 |
| thafreak | for whatever reason, they felt it was fine to put all the students on gmail | 15:04 |
| dzho | for which, indirectly, we can thank Google, gmail | 15:04 |
| thafreak | but require all the staff and faculty to use exchange | 15:04 |
| thafreak | they claim gmail doesn't have shared calendars/scheduling of meetings... | 15:04 |
| thafreak | i call B.S. | 15:04 |
| dzho | yeah, we've got a similar situation--students on a hosted provider, faculty and staff on something else | 15:05 |
| thafreak | maybe OUTLOOK can't use gmail for calendaring/scheduling, but that doesn't mean it can't be done | 15:05 |
| dzho | but they're moving some fac/staff to a hosted solution because, you know, now that $VENDOR has gone that route, it must be ok | 15:05 |
| thafreak | the CS department is the last hold out...they refuse to stop hosting their own email... | 15:06 |
| dzho | good for them | 15:06 |
| thafreak | i know...except they're getting political pressure...well we won't pay for this or that unless you move your email | 15:06 |
| * dzho nods | 15:07 | |
| dzho | sounds familiar | 15:07 |
| thafreak | but i mean come on....if the CS department can't handle hosting it's own email, what does that say about the quality of the CS department | 15:07 |
| dzho | well, CS isn't CE . . . | 15:07 |
| thafreak | i didn't say build their own mail hosting from scraps of silicon ;) | 15:08 |
| dzho | the guy I feel most sorry for is the one who does IT support for CS | 15:09 |
| dzho | "we know very well what they are and aren't capable of" | 15:09 |
| Melon_Bread | ew office365 | 15:14 |
| thafreak | nope, just installed evolution...it's not working with office365 | 15:24 |
| Cheri703 | thafreak: can you use the outlook web app thing? | 15:24 |
| Cheri703 | vs proper outlook? | 15:24 |
| thafreak | yeah, but I hate that more than regular outlook | 15:25 |
| thafreak | the font size on the subject is huge | 15:26 |
| thafreak | and I can't adjust it | 15:26 |
| thafreak | so so much window realestate gets wasted | 15:26 |
| thafreak | I'm honestly tempted (and at home i do this) to just use my android phone to let me know when I have mail | 15:26 |
| Cheri703 | OH, I know what you could do :D | 15:27 |
| Cheri703 | hang on | 15:27 |
| thafreak | k | 15:28 |
| Cheri703 | works with wine: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.elfsoft.desknotifier&hl=en | 15:28 |
| Cheri703 | (has a link to the computer program in there) | 15:28 |
| Cheri703 | basically: phone notifications show up on computer (for those who don't want to follow the link ;) ) | 15:30 |
| thafreak | might combo that with prism...or whatever the project is called now | 15:31 |
| * thafreak wonders what happened to the stand alone prism stuff... | 15:31 | |
| thafreak | Anyone use prism before? basically stripped down firefox w/out any buttons for making webapps feel like desktop apps | 15:32 |
| thafreak | actually, does anyone know what the new webapp stuff built into unity uses (in 12.10)? | 15:34 |
| dzho | thafreak: I don't know. poking around shows me this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/javascript/index.html | 15:35 |
| Cheri703 | theoretically you're supposed to be able to use the webapps in 12.04, but I couldn't get it working :/ | 15:52 |
| thafreak | That first link seemed to be more about how to get webapps to interact with unity, i.e. for notifications and what not | 15:53 |
| thafreak | :/ | 15:53 |
| thafreak | and it seems mozilla totally abandoned all it's projects relating to it... | 15:53 |
| thafreak | so....hmmm | 15:53 |
| thafreak | Ok....so with some tweaks, and a separate profile, i can make firefox look about as slim as possible | 16:08 |
| thafreak | and the web outlook is bearable now | 16:08 |
| canthus13 | OWA blows. | 16:23 |
| Cheri703 | but perhaps better than running an entire vm for outlook (at least sometimes) | 16:24 |
| canthus13 | Cheri703: It does sorta work in chromium-browser. My GF uses it for school from Mint. | 17:13 |
| Cheri703 | I don't use it, I had to for my old job | 17:18 |
| * thafreak has new thing pissing him off... | 17:24 | |
| dzho | let the hate flow | 17:25 |
| thafreak | seems the world is never free of things that piss me off | 17:25 |
| thafreak | Was going to give vmware esxi a shot...but can't get it to install on the only server I have for testing | 17:25 |
| thafreak | :/ | 17:25 |
| thafreak | it won't find my 3ware controller... | 17:25 |
| thafreak | oh, and when I had intel vt-d enabled in bios...installer wouldn't finish booting | 17:26 |
| thafreak | nice | 17:26 |
| thafreak | screw it...i'm not wasting my time trying to build a custom iso w/3ware drivers | 17:29 |
| thafreak | going to move on and try other software | 17:29 |
| dzho | good. | 17:37 |
| dzho | don't want to deplete your rage reservers. | 17:37 |
| dzho | reserves. | 17:37 |
| thafreak | Ok...valid discussion here guise | 19:08 |
| thafreak | no raging from me | 19:08 |
| thafreak | I'm considering trying out one of the "stacks" | 19:08 |
| thafreak | was aiming for openstack, as it's supported by canonical, rackspace, etc | 19:08 |
| thafreak | but after the cloud stack presentation at OLF, I saw how slick it looked | 19:09 |
| dzho | yeah | 19:12 |
| dzho | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/openstack-vs-cloudstack-the-beginning-of-the-open-source-cloud-wars/10763 weird politics | 19:14 |
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