[02:52] we haven't heard back from andygraybeal...hopefully he didn't die in a terrible scythe accident... [03:43] Cheri703: You ever do anything with that rackmounted server? [03:44] disposed of it :/ it was SO big and SO INCREDIBLY loud, and super underpowered :/ I harvested some parts and took it to the recycling place [03:44] I do still have that monitor if you want it though :) [03:45] Reminds me to take a look at what I have in the basement... [03:52] Unit193: at OLF I met drkokandy, who lives in Ashland [03:52] we should discuss at some point what a good time/place for Ubuntu Hour would be [03:52] Yeah, came in here (and still seems to be here...) [03:52] Sounds good. [03:52] hey - what's up? [03:53] We link to ping random people to see if they're alive. ;) [03:53] got my attention :) [03:53] Nice to meet you - hello from up the road [03:55] Sorry for you, and howdy. [03:57] let me know if you do want to put together a nice Ubuntu Hour - I'd probably be able to swing down, as long as it's a less crazy week as this has been at work [03:57] er, than this one has been [03:58] I'd be up for meeting closer to downtown, as that's closer to me, Unit193 lives more on the Ontario side of town, but accomodating our new addition, and being *completely* unselfish, downtown might work better ;) [03:59] but we'd need to find somewhere with wifi (well, not NEEEEED, but would prefer) [03:59] in case o computering [04:00] Meh, mine is hybrid now, needs a monitor. [04:00] (So not portable) [04:01] ah [04:01] I have a not amazing, but usable (with wifi dongle) laptop sitting in a drawer, also another one that needs a new mobo, if you want either of them (I have another that is the same as I sold to your friend, but I think I have that one earmarked for a client) [04:02] I also have an extra older one I could bring - not that enjoyable, but workable [04:02] I'm not seeing a lot of places on this wifi finder app around downtown - but sometimes they miss places [04:02] k, we sometimes exchange equipment as available :) [04:03] Well, it's not a bad "desktop", but just not portable. This is a PM 2.16G, 1G ram. [04:03] Processors seem to fly around... [04:03] yeah, there's not a ton around downtown :/ I can wander around next time I'm down there, use my phone to look for some wifi :) [04:04] Library has it, if nothing else. :P [04:04] hehe, I prefer somewhere a. with food, b. that we can talk above a hushed whisper ;) though perhaps we could get a conference room or something [04:04] Could respin Xubuntu again to be "my" xubuntu, some config and all. [04:05] Getting a conference room would kind of prevent us from being able to visibly be using Ubuntu in a public place, if that was one of the ideas too... but at least we could chat about it [04:05] I'd agree food would be ideal [04:06] yeah, I have a little table sign I put up in case we get people wandering up or who have seen it on the website (hasn't happened yet though ;) ) [04:06] there's a coffee shop, but the only food is like bagels :/ I'll start hunting a bit [04:06] my 2nd laptop has a Pentium 1.6x2 with 1G of RAM if you'd like me to bring that [04:07] If you wouldn't mind me using it for the night (that is, if I'd be able to make it and all) [04:08] that would be fine, also as long as I can make that day :) [04:15] Unit193: just set up a live boot usb and plug it in when you get there ;) [04:15] Unit193: are you familiar with "uncle john's place" downtown? [04:16] I might check it out for lunch at some point and go from there [04:16] anyone have moral objections to McD's? [04:16] the one on trimble might work? [04:17] I don't know Uncle John's Place, but I have no moral objections to McD's [04:22] ok, McD's might work, cheap, can get real food, a beverage, whatever, has wifi, has places that multiple people can sit in a group. I like panera better, but it's harder for me to get to [04:22] (I am car free, I have a way to get around, but panera is on the far edge of my usual range) [04:25] I agree Panera might be a better place - but if it's easier for you two I'm flexible - it's not a huge difference for me, but McD would be closer [04:27] if 2 of 3 can get to panera easier, I can get myself there :) I just have to plan in advance [04:27] I use a recumbent trike with an electic hub motor, not an amazing range on it, so I have to make sure I'm not using up the battery that day :) [04:35] Oh. OK - like I said, I'm flexible, so if would make it easier for you, I can do the McD too. No worries [04:37] eh, we can see what days work and go from there. :) I'm available preeeetty much whenever [04:40] sounds good. I could make it to Mansfield by ~5:30 or so most days. Mondays generally wouldn't work for me, and I have the rare work event in the evening, but those aren't often [04:40] So pretty much Tuesday-Friday would work [04:49] I'll need to call it a night, but if you two decide on something, let me know & I'll be there. [04:49] Looking forward to it! [04:54] sounds good! Thanks! [04:59] Cheri703: No. [04:59] no what? [04:59] Uncle John's Place [05:00] Never heard of it, that is. [05:01] ah [05:01] ok [11:31] Cheri703, haahahaha i didn't die [11:31] back for more today! [11:31] it's a fun filled week of mowing [14:08] Morning Ohio [14:12] Good Morning [14:19] Melon_Bread: that's a new handle...you new to this room? [14:20] Well I have been idle for a few days here, but yes you could say I am new. XD [14:22] Ah, yes, we all idle down here.... [14:22] hola folks [14:22] sup Cheri703 [14:22] not too much, starting my work day [14:22] That is always fun [14:29] * thafreak feels dirty... [14:29] * thafreak is running a windows 7 vm just to use outlook [14:29] gah, it makes me feel even worse typing that out [14:30] I so hate the CIO or VP or whatever idiot decided to force me to use outlook [14:30] what a waste of 1GB of ram... [14:35] hehe, I run a win7 vm just for netflix [14:40] thafreak: evolution doesn't cut it? [14:45] I really wish companies would open open up a bit. (I am forced to use Outlook as well) [14:46] Melon_Bread: same question to you [14:47] No I would like to use evolution [14:47] but at work I am locked in to Outlook [14:47] I ask because it's supposed to play well with Exchange and have a lot of Outlookish features [14:47] so I'm wondering what it's missing [14:48] "I am locked in" gets you my sympathy :) but I don't learn much more from it [14:49] I guess some higher ups just see it as the Mircosoft way or the highway. =\ [14:56] evolution doesn't support exchange 2010 [14:57] i'd rather use thunderbird [14:57] but they disabled imap support [14:57] we're using a hosted exchange...that supports imap...but the "geniuses" in the IS department deemed it "un secure" or something [14:57] and requested it to be disabled... [14:58] They want everyone to use outlook...or entourage for the mac users...everyone else,they want them to use the crapy web interface [15:01] Actually, I was using davmail for the last couple of years... [15:01] it provided an imap server, and then talked to exchange via it's web interface [15:01] but they went to a hosted version, which redirects back to us for authentication [15:02] so I can't get it to work anymore [15:02] oh, imap is off by default in 2010 [15:02] devious so-and-so's [15:03] actually, entourage on the mac is old news [15:03] they've got outlook for mac, now [15:03] and worse, we're outsourcing it to microsoft...we're using office365 [15:04] for whatever reason, they felt it was fine to put all the students on gmail [15:04] for which, indirectly, we can thank Google, gmail [15:04] but require all the staff and faculty to use exchange [15:04] they claim gmail doesn't have shared calendars/scheduling of meetings... [15:04] i call B.S. [15:05] yeah, we've got a similar situation--students on a hosted provider, faculty and staff on something else [15:05] maybe OUTLOOK can't use gmail for calendaring/scheduling, but that doesn't mean it can't be done [15:05] but they're moving some fac/staff to a hosted solution because, you know, now that $VENDOR has gone that route, it must be ok [15:06] the CS department is the last hold out...they refuse to stop hosting their own email... [15:06] good for them [15:06] i know...except they're getting political pressure...well we won't pay for this or that unless you move your email [15:07] * dzho nods [15:07] sounds familiar [15:07] but i mean come on....if the CS department can't handle hosting it's own email, what does that say about the quality of the CS department [15:07] well, CS isn't CE . . . [15:08] i didn't say build their own mail hosting from scraps of silicon ;) [15:09] the guy I feel most sorry for is the one who does IT support for CS [15:09] "we know very well what they are and aren't capable of" [15:14] ew office365 [15:24] nope, just installed evolution...it's not working with office365 [15:24] thafreak: can you use the outlook web app thing? [15:24] vs proper outlook? [15:25] yeah, but I hate that more than regular outlook [15:26] the font size on the subject is huge [15:26] and I can't adjust it [15:26] so so much window realestate gets wasted [15:26] I'm honestly tempted (and at home i do this) to just use my android phone to let me know when I have mail [15:27] OH, I know what you could do :D [15:27] hang on [15:28] k [15:28] works with wine: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.elfsoft.desknotifier&hl=en [15:28] (has a link to the computer program in there) [15:30] basically: phone notifications show up on computer (for those who don't want to follow the link ;) ) [15:31] might combo that with prism...or whatever the project is called now [15:31] * thafreak wonders what happened to the stand alone prism stuff... [15:32] Anyone use prism before? basically stripped down firefox w/out any buttons for making webapps feel like desktop apps [15:34] actually, does anyone know what the new webapp stuff built into unity uses (in 12.10)? [15:35] thafreak: I don't know. poking around shows me this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/javascript/index.html [15:52] theoretically you're supposed to be able to use the webapps in 12.04, but I couldn't get it working :/ [15:53] That first link seemed to be more about how to get webapps to interact with unity, i.e. for notifications and what not [15:53] :/ [15:53] and it seems mozilla totally abandoned all it's projects relating to it... [15:53] so....hmmm [16:08] Ok....so with some tweaks, and a separate profile, i can make firefox look about as slim as possible [16:08] and the web outlook is bearable now [16:23] OWA blows. [16:24] but perhaps better than running an entire vm for outlook (at least sometimes) [17:13] Cheri703: It does sorta work in chromium-browser. My GF uses it for school from Mint. [17:18] I don't use it, I had to for my old job [17:24] * thafreak has new thing pissing him off... [17:25] let the hate flow [17:25] seems the world is never free of things that piss me off [17:25] Was going to give vmware esxi a shot...but can't get it to install on the only server I have for testing [17:25] :/ [17:25] it won't find my 3ware controller... [17:26] oh, and when I had intel vt-d enabled in bios...installer wouldn't finish booting [17:26] nice [17:29] screw it...i'm not wasting my time trying to build a custom iso w/3ware drivers [17:29] going to move on and try other software [17:37] good. [17:37] don't want to deplete your rage reservers. [17:37] reserves. [19:08] Ok...valid discussion here guise [19:08] no raging from me [19:08] I'm considering trying out one of the "stacks" [19:08] was aiming for openstack, as it's supported by canonical, rackspace, etc [19:09] but after the cloud stack presentation at OLF, I saw how slick it looked [19:12] yeah [19:14] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/openstack-vs-cloudstack-the-beginning-of-the-open-source-cloud-wars/10763 weird politics