[14:13] * xTEMPLARx yawns. [14:14] * wrst pours water on xTEMPLARx [14:14] wake up xTEMPLARx [14:14] can't [14:18] me either any advice? [14:44] nope [14:44] none that works [14:44] still sleepy [14:44] but then, I started out with a giant coffee from pilot [14:44] laden with sugar [14:45] and a donut [14:45] or two [14:45] so now the sugar's doing me in [14:45] argh [14:55] i had to run from doughnuts today my wife had boxes of them she was taking with her to work [15:17] too [15:17] much [15:17] suga [15:18] shoo-gah [15:18] ha ha [16:32] MY NAME IS DOOF, AND YOU'LL DO WHAT I SAY! [16:33] woot woot! [16:38] nobody? [16:38] boooo [16:43] xTEMPLARx: ??? :) [16:55] phineas and ferb reference [16:56] guess i'm the only one here with kids [16:56] :P [16:57] well i have kid note singular be no phineas and ferb... yet [17:07] i thought you had more than the one... Maybe I'm thinking of Raoul. [17:12] just one for me !!! thats MORE than enough [17:12] morning chris4585 ;) [17:13] hey wrst [17:24] downloading latest 12.10 beta [17:25] I tried updating my machine at home from 10.04 to 12.04 doing the built-in dist upgrade... it failed miserably. [17:25] miserably I say [17:25] although now that I think about it, it was probably graphics issues [17:25] :D [17:28] you always have graphics issues :P [17:40] only here lately for some reason [17:40] frustrating [17:43] that is and you are running nvidia right? [17:56] yup everywhere [17:57] so its almost like I never had any trouble with them until Linus ran his mouth about NVidia [18:27] xTEMPLARx: evil plot by them? [18:27] could be! [18:27] NVidia says... I'll show you Linus, how dare you stick that particular digit out at us! [18:30] haha [18:31] i wonder... can one upgrade from a 32-bit to a 64-bit system? [18:39] xTEMPLARx: good question that would rquire a different kernel and all different packages correct? [18:39] possibly [18:39] definitely on the kernel [18:41] you currently 32 bit i take it? [18:42] yeah here [18:42] but this is the base install I had prior to upgrading to the quad-core AMD mobo [18:43] xTEMPLARx: it is possible it appears: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750169 [18:43] last commetn [18:51] haha thanks... not very encouraging, that post [18:54] no xTEMPLARx i really figured you could switch your sources somehow pull in a 64bit kernel and the packages then reboot [18:54] sudo apt-get reinstall the whole stinkin' thing [18:55] haha probably [18:55] might as well just reinstall it though [18:55] I need to re-establish a better partitioning scheme though [18:55] i.e., separate /home location from the main OS install [18:56] xTEMPLARx: i really need to do that, when we quit using my laptop at church and arch moves totally over to systemd i'm going to do that [18:57] that's always been a big problem here... when it comes time to install a clean system on this box, its a pain and things get lost [18:57] i have Win7 native on my laptop but i NEVER boot into it when i need windows i have a VM so probably use all 640GB on that thing for arch and partition it properly [18:57] I wish one of the VM proggies would let you boot your win partition rather than having to install a dedicated one [18:58] that would be cool [18:59] when i go heavy into paritioning i generally screw something up [18:59] i followed all the arch stuff and didn't pay attention to /tmp and had it filling up if i let a machine run more than for a week or two [19:00] i need to study up before i do that again [19:00] my biggest issue here is carrying my email over [19:00] it SHOULD be a simple process, but it never really is [19:00] I'm using Thunderbird now, so maybe it won't be as bad [19:00] was always usingEvolution prior [19:01] xTEMPLARx: this is promising looking: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81824/how-can-i-switch-a-32-bit-installation-to-a-64-bit-one [19:02] xTEMPLARx: t-bird is super easy that's what i used at work, i backed everything up when a hard driving was going away and i just replaced the files and it was like nothing ever happened [19:03] that linke makes since you install 64 bit package apt, etc then chroot with a 64boot live cd to run those to get the 64bit kernel i think you can do it or blow your system up trying ;) [19:05] guess the larger question would be: is it FASTER to do it that way? [19:11] i would think absolutely not :) [19:20] I wouldn't think so either [19:21] I mean.. .its an interesting thought to think it COULD be done, but really, the benefits (if any) of doing so don't seem to outweigh a simple backup-and-reinstall [19:35] i'm sure it can be done it appears, its linux! [19:39] but yes probably a total waste of time :) [20:20] :D booting into the 12.10 beta dvd... bbiab [20:38] wb xTEMPLARx [20:48] orr wb xTEMPx [20:48] hmm wb xTEMPLARx