[14:13]  * xTEMPLARx yawns.
[14:14]  * wrst pours water on xTEMPLARx
[14:14] <wrst> wake up xTEMPLARx
[14:14] <xTEMPLARx> can't
[14:18] <wrst> me either any advice?
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> nope
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> none that works
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> still sleepy
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> but then, I started out with a giant coffee from pilot
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> laden with sugar
[14:45] <xTEMPLARx> and a donut
[14:45] <xTEMPLARx> or two
[14:45] <xTEMPLARx> so now the sugar's doing me in
[14:45] <xTEMPLARx> argh
[14:55] <wrst> i had to run from doughnuts today my wife had boxes of them she was taking with her to work
[15:17] <xTEMPLARx> too
[15:17] <xTEMPLARx> much
[15:17] <xTEMPLARx> suga
[15:18] <xTEMPLARx> shoo-gah
[15:18] <wrst> ha ha
[16:32] <xTEMPLARx> MY NAME IS DOOF, AND YOU'LL DO WHAT I SAY!
[16:33] <xTEMPLARx> woot woot!
[16:38] <xTEMPLARx> nobody?
[16:38] <xTEMPLARx> boooo
[16:43] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: ??? :)
[16:55] <xTEMPLARx> phineas and ferb reference
[16:56] <xTEMPLARx> guess i'm the only one here with kids
[16:56] <xTEMPLARx> :P
[16:57] <wrst> well i have kid note singular be no phineas and ferb... yet
[17:07] <xTEMPLARx> i thought you had more than the one... Maybe I'm thinking of Raoul.
[17:12] <wrst> just one for me !!! thats MORE than enough
[17:12] <wrst> morning chris4585 ;)
[17:13] <chris4585> hey wrst
[17:24] <xTEMPLARx> downloading latest 12.10 beta
[17:25] <xTEMPLARx> I tried updating my machine at home from 10.04 to 12.04 doing the built-in dist upgrade... it failed miserably.
[17:25] <xTEMPLARx> miserably I say
[17:25] <xTEMPLARx> although now that I think about it, it was probably graphics issues
[17:25] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[17:28] <wrst> you always have graphics issues :P
[17:40] <xTEMPLARx> only here lately for some reason
[17:40] <xTEMPLARx> frustrating
[17:43] <wrst> that is and you are running nvidia right?
[17:56] <xTEMPLARx> yup everywhere
[17:57] <xTEMPLARx> so its almost like I never had any trouble with them until Linus ran his mouth about NVidia
[18:27] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: evil plot by them?
[18:27] <xTEMPLARx> could be!
[18:27] <wrst> NVidia says... I'll show you Linus, how dare you stick that particular digit out at us!
[18:30] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[18:31] <xTEMPLARx> i wonder... can one upgrade from a 32-bit to a 64-bit system?
[18:39] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: good question that would rquire a different kernel and all different packages correct?
[18:39] <xTEMPLARx> possibly
[18:39] <xTEMPLARx> definitely on the kernel
[18:41] <wrst> you currently 32 bit i take it?
[18:42] <xTEMPLARx> yeah here
[18:42] <xTEMPLARx> but this is the base install I had prior to upgrading to the quad-core AMD mobo
[18:43] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: it is possible it appears: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750169
[18:43] <wrst> last commetn
[18:51] <xTEMPLARx> haha thanks... not very encouraging, that post
[18:54] <wrst> no xTEMPLARx i really figured you could switch your sources somehow pull in a 64bit kernel and the packages then reboot
[18:54] <wrst> sudo apt-get reinstall the whole stinkin' thing
[18:55] <xTEMPLARx> haha probably
[18:55] <xTEMPLARx> might as well just reinstall it though
[18:55] <xTEMPLARx> I need to re-establish a better partitioning scheme though
[18:55] <xTEMPLARx> i.e., separate /home location from the main OS install
[18:56] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: i really need to do that, when we quit using my laptop at church and arch moves totally over to systemd i'm going to do that
[18:57] <xTEMPLARx> that's always been a big problem here... when it comes time to install a clean system on this box, its a pain and things get lost
[18:57] <wrst> i have Win7 native on my laptop but i NEVER boot into it when i need windows i have  a VM so probably use all 640GB on that thing for arch and partition it properly
[18:57] <xTEMPLARx> I wish one of the VM proggies would let you boot your win partition rather than having to install a dedicated one
[18:58] <wrst> that would be cool
[18:59] <wrst> when i go heavy into paritioning i generally screw something up
[18:59] <wrst> i followed all the arch stuff and didn't pay attention to /tmp and had it filling up if i let a machine run more than for a week or two
[19:00] <wrst> i need to study up before i do that again
[19:00] <xTEMPLARx> my biggest issue here is carrying my email over
[19:00] <xTEMPLARx> it SHOULD be a simple process, but it never really is
[19:00] <xTEMPLARx> I'm using Thunderbird now, so maybe it won't be as bad
[19:00] <xTEMPLARx> was always usingEvolution prior
[19:01] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: this is promising looking: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81824/how-can-i-switch-a-32-bit-installation-to-a-64-bit-one
[19:02] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: t-bird is super easy that's what i used at work, i backed everything up when a hard driving was going away and i just replaced the files and it was like nothing ever happened
[19:03] <wrst> that linke makes since you install 64 bit package apt, etc then chroot with a 64boot live cd to run those to get the 64bit kernel i think you can do it or blow your system up trying ;)
[19:05] <xTEMPLARx> guess the larger question would be:  is it FASTER to do it that way?
[19:11] <wrst> i would think absolutely not :)
[19:20] <xTEMPLARx> I wouldn't think so either
[19:21] <xTEMPLARx> I mean.. .its an interesting thought to think it COULD be done, but really, the benefits (if any) of doing so don't seem to outweigh a simple  backup-and-reinstall
[19:35] <wrst> i'm sure it can be done it appears, its linux!
[19:39] <wrst> but yes probably a total waste of time :)
[20:20] <xTEMPLARx> :D  booting into the 12.10 beta dvd... bbiab
[20:38] <wrst> wb xTEMPLARx
[20:48] <wrst> orr wb xTEMPx
[20:48] <wrst> hmm wb xTEMPLARx