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mlankhorstah06:17
tjaaltonsigh, fed up with kubuntu users filing useless bugs because it doesn't have xdiagnose installed07:45
mlankhorstmake it part of kubuntu-desktop then :p07:47
tjaaltonxdiagnose depends on gtk07:48
tjaaltonso that's not an option before it's split07:49
mlankhorstadd 'write qtdiagnose' for todo in r then :-)07:50
* mlankhorst wonders if he should07:51
tjaaltonsplit the frontend and write a new one, yes07:51
tjaaltondoesn't ubuntu-desktop pull qt anyway?-)07:52
mlankhorstwell I like qt, I guess that means I'll volunteer07:52
tjaaltongreat!07:52
mlankhorstnah but it should be possible to split it up in a qt and gtk frontend07:52
tjaaltonright07:53
xnox_ac100hello, I get desktop lock-ups ~5-15 minutes - can't do anything even switch to tty. I filed bug 1061441 and I am willing to do anything to get a working desktop.07:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061441 in xorg (Ubuntu) "graphical desktop locksup and becomes non-responsive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106144107:55
mlankhorst dmi.chassis.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.07:56
mlankhorstalways the greatest vendor!07:56
tjaalton UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to quantal on 2012-01-04 (273 days ago)07:57
tjaaltonwhoa07:57
mlankhorstthat just means their system clock is off :p07:57
mlankhorstmine would travel years into the future if i repeatedly suspended/resumed it07:58
tjaaltonxnox_ac100: when did it start?07:58
tjaaltonsmells like bad hw07:58
mlankhorstxnox_ac100: does a precise livecd work?07:58
xnox_ac100tjaalton: i work on foundations team on ubiquity. I needed python3 bits of various software very early on. But I did upgrade *after* UDS not before =))))08:00
mlankhorsttjaalton: argh all bugs are going down except intel :((08:00
xnox_ac100tjaalton: it started.... after yesterdays reboot.... how many dist-upgrades that was, I am not sure.08:01
* xnox_ac100 can check the logs I suppose08:01
tjaaltonthere should be no updates that result in this08:01
tjaaltonmlankhorst: let's sort it out then08:02
xnox_ac100So I had uptime since 16:00 UTC 1st of October. reboot at 20:00 3rd of October and it all went to downhill from that.08:04
mlankhorst:/08:05
mlankhorstdid you upgrade before that?08:05
tjaaltonright, no x related updates there08:05
mlankhorstsome linux kernel though08:06
xnox_ac100yes, full dist-upgrade just before the reboots. I did have rebooted for kernel update.08:06
xnox_ac100mlankhorst: oh...08:06
tjaaltonwell I bet 3.6 would still work08:07
tjaaltonI've no issues with sandybridge here08:07
tjaaltoneven with 3.508:07
mlankhorstmine chronically overheats :p08:07
* xnox_ac100 is running 3.6-final currently => locks up. rc4 was good, let me reinstall that just in case I lock up again.08:08
tjaaltonok then, try an earlier 3.5 kernel08:08
tjaaltonyou should have plenty installed08:08
tjaaltonso you probably got 3.5.0-16 installed, try -1508:09
xnox_ac100well actually i have only 4, as I only have 200MB /boot with full disk encryption08:10
tjaaltondisk is cheap :)08:10
xnox_ac100also i did mark myself as affected by bug 104179008:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1041790 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[sandybridge-m-gt2] GPU lockup IPEHR: 0x0b160001 IPEHR: 0x0b140001" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104179008:10
mlankhorstxnox_ac100: full disk encryption ftw08:11
mlankhorsteven though it limits my ssd to 400mb/s instead of more XD08:11
xnox_ac100tjaalton: yeah... i have plenty in the lvm, just not much left for /boot, and now i want to split a chunk of it for UEFI boot partition....08:11
xnox_ac100i did recently create an unencrypted lvm for sbuild08:11
mlankhorsthehe, I cheated by rolling my own kernels :P08:11
mlankhorstI only need 1 initramfs08:11
xnox_ac100lol =) nice08:12
mlankhorstbut all my test systems boot off nfs anyway08:12
xnox_ac100so i have -15, -16 & mainline rc4 and final. Will try -15 next I guess....08:12
tjaaltonif there's a regression I'd think it's reverted/fixed in the upcoming -1708:14
tjaaltonsince it merged 3.5.508:14
xnoxwell if you see xnox drop out, yet xnox_ac100 stays, then you know.... i locked up again.08:15
mlankhorstI ignore join/quit messages since its too much spam08:15
* Hanmac is sorry that i spam you :'(08:16
mlankhorstI no longer see it :p08:16
tjaaltonmlankhorst: so how's mesa doing?08:28
mlankhorstit builds and i pushed it back08:28
tjaaltonok, I'll test it briefly and upload08:28
mlankhorstwe might want to see if we can drop some of the build patches before doing the final 9.0 upload though :)08:29
tjaaltonoh right there was patch 1408:30
mlankhorstyeah it caused a conflict08:36
tjaaltonhuh?08:36
Hanmacmlankhorst the last time i SAW the output crashing and i had enough time to make an dmesg output ...08:37
mlankhorsttjaalton: well the upstream patch for 118 conflicted with the other patches we had in that tree08:39
tjaaltonwth? laptop drops to failsafe after upgrade08:39
mlankhorstO_O08:39
tjaaltonmlankhorst: oh I see08:39
tjaaltonah, using 3.6.. no wonder08:41
Hanmachttp://pastebin.com/JL03Ef0E << mlankhorst that is my dmesg before its totaly crash ... shortly before the scene got's green, and the tty1 gots purple08:42
mlankhorstHanmac: dupe it for now I suppose, not much that can be done until upstream responds08:45
Hanmacps: the linux-image-3.5.0-17 packages are coming (maybe) today ... (the meta packages are pointing to it) but i dont think it solv my problem :'(08:52
tjaaltonwe know, and haven't suggested it would08:52
mlankhorstHanmac: I don't mean to be rude but we're aware of the problem and affected too, if you keep focusing our attention to it we get distracted from finding a solution and our other work on solving problems for others08:54
mlankhorsttjaalton: any idea when the 3.5.5 linux image comes?09:00
tjaaltonmlankhorst: uploaded already09:00
tjaaltonhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/quantal-changes/2012-October/010845.html09:00
tjaaltonarmhf failed to build it seems09:00
tjaaltonothers are in NEW09:00
mlankhorstah :)09:01
Hanmachm it seems the failing "GPU softreset" & "[drm:r600_resume] *ERROR* r600 startup failed on resume" only destroys the X-Output (so it does not change anymore) but tty does still work09:01
Hanmac"irq/18-radeon Tainted" are the bad guy that destroy tty1 too 09:01
Hanmacis this information helpful?09:01
mlankhorstHanmac: no we already collected all that information from your log, nothing to add09:02
mlankhorstand please use the bug report instead of here09:02
tjaaltonbuilding mesa09:06
tjaaltonmlankhorst: added a changelog entry for the patch ;)09:07
* Hanmac is joyful because of new packages09:07
mlankhorsttjaalton: yeah I'm just marking a whole bunch of xorg-server bugs incomplete now when they were filed at x < 1.13 or one of the rc's09:16
tjaaltonmlankhorst: cool09:27
* xnox_ac100 locked up. booting into 3.5 -1509:27
tjaaltonmlankhorst: the build patches are now in 9.009:28
mlankhorst\o/09:28
mlankhorstthought so09:28
* xnox_ac100 ponders if it's actually compiz locking me up09:57
tjaaltoncan you ssh in?09:57
xnox_ac100no. I should set up this netbook for ssh in.09:57
xnox_ac100tjaalton: what do you want me to check on the next lock up?09:57
tjaaltonxnox_ac100: well, if you can log in with ssh it means it's not a full system lockup09:58
tjaaltonalso, does mouse work?09:58
tjaaltonmight just be some app taking the input grab09:58
tjaaltonyou can try chvt09:59
tjaaltonvia ssh09:59
Hanmacxnox_ac100 i maybe need more information, what is your xserver version, whats your graphic card, what do you mean with "locking up"?10:00
tjaaltonHanmac: please, don't10:01
Hanmacokay :(10:01
xnoxHanmac: check irclogs from today, if you are interested =)10:02
* xnox setup working ssh now.10:03
xnox_ac1001hmm... actually it's a full system lock down. it doesn't even reply to pings.10:23
Hanmacso it puts finger in its ears and ignores you? that is very mean10:24
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tjaaltonxnox_ac1001: ok so it happens with -15 too?10:26
=== ubuntu-marathon is now known as smartboyhw
xnox_ac1001tjaalton: -15, 3.6rc4, 3.6final now going to -16 again (can't remember now) with or without unity/compiz10:28
tjaaltonok, dodgy hw then10:28
tjaaltoncheck your ram10:28
xnox_ac1001hmmm....10:29
xnox_ac1001memcheck or is there anything else?10:29
tjaaltonselectable from the grub menu10:29
tjaaltonmemcheck yes10:29
xnox_ac1001ok10:29
* xnox_ac1001 doesn't deal with hw that often.10:29
xnox_ac1001it works without a hitch usually =)10:29
tjaaltonthat's all I can think of10:29
xnox_ac1001sounds plausible. since it's out of the blue in dependant of everything.10:30
tjaaltonyou can check dpkg.log for the upgrade diff, but don't think you'll find anything suspicious there, if the kernel update has already been ruled out10:30
xnox_ac1001and compiz....10:31
xnox_ac1001ruled out.10:31
xnox_ac1001and unity. no updates to X as you said....10:31
tjaaltonmesa uploaded11:06
mlankhorstyay11:06
* Hanmac says yay too11:08
* xnox_ac1001 doing memtest now11:20
Hanmactjaalton where do you upload the mesa? is there an link where i can look?11:21
mlankhorstquantal-proposed presumably11:23
mlankhorstor simply quantal11:23
tjaaltonquantal11:25
Hanmachm is this the right package for looking? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa11:25
tjaaltonit's not accepted yet11:25
xnox_ac1001you can fetch it from unapproved queue11:25
tjaaltonright11:26
mlankhorstbut it won't do you any good since your problem is in the kernel..11:30
Hanmacbut i could still dream that its going better ...11:31
xnox_ac1001hmmm... http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=113043 recommends i915.i915_enable_rc6=011:35
tjaaltonit shouldn't break like that11:36
xnox_ac1001ok11:37
tjaaltonI mean, break all of a sudden11:41
tjaaltonif it worked fine before11:41
xnox_ac1001bug 993187 sounds like a winner11:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 993187 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently." [Critical,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99318711:43
xnox_ac1001including the comment #493 about buggy ethernet driver locking the system up11:43
xnox_ac1001but i am pondering about trying comment #321 boot param settings11:44
tjaaltonthat bug is the worst bug in the history of mankind :)11:45
tjaaltonbug report11:45
xnox_ac1001tjaalton: nah the worst bug was brother printers don't print on tuesdays.11:45
mlankhorst:>11:45
xnox_ac1001with reporter confirming the bug every tuesday & bug triangers unvalidating it every wednesday11:46
tjaaltonpeople are still posting new comments there even though it was closed months ago11:46
tjaaltonas impossible to follow11:46
mlankhorsthaha11:46
* xnox_ac1001 the reporter had weekly reports to print on tuesdays....11:46
xnox_ac1001it took a while for the pattern to be noticed.11:46
tjaaltonheh11:47
tjaaltonguess it would be helpful to mark this bug as private..11:47
tjaaltonshould help with the hand-waving11:47
xnox_ac1001tjaalton: please don't =)11:49
xnox_ac1001google indexed each comment and i would never find out about those two comments and learn that "sandybridge is disappointment of the year 2011@11:51
tjaaltonok then, I won't touch it :)11:53
mlankhorsttjaalton: you forgot to push the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau commit after pushing?11:58
tjaaltonmlankhorst: no, should be there11:58
mlankhorstoh right, i forgot to fetch11:59
mlankhorsttjaalton: I added a small exa fix for nouveau, can you upload it?12:02
tjaaltonsure12:02
tjaaltonmesa accepted12:15
tjaaltonmlankhorst: btw, if you have nothing else to add to a package, you can finalize the changelog entry with dch -r12:16
mlankhorsttjaalton: I know but I can't upload :-)12:16
tjaaltonyou can commit the change12:17
tjaaltonto git12:17
tjaaltonit doesn't matter who is listed on the changelog entry12:17
tjaaltonas the signer12:17
tjaaltonwhat matters is who has signed the package files12:18
tjaaltonhmm, didn't the patch fix any of the lp bugs?12:19
tjaaltonuploaded anyway12:20
Hanmacyeah the build begins12:21
mlankhorstmost nouveau bugs might be in mesa :/12:25
mlankhorstor kernel12:25
* Hanmac wonder behind with door my zonk is hiding ...12:26
tjaaltonamd64 build now failed twice12:32
mlankhorston what?12:33
tjaaltonmesa12:34
tjaaltonsome bug in parallel build12:34
tjaaltonbuilds fine here12:34
Hanmacthe error was  "SIRegisterInfo.td:2:1: error: Unknown token when parsing a value " ... hm it uses llvm maybe this was the problem?12:34
tjaaltonno, there's a known bug in the parallel build, still not fixed upstream12:35
tjaaltonit doesn't fail every time12:35
* mlankhorst tries -j3212:35
mlankhorstseems xatracker needs -ldrm and -pthread still and glapi is missing symbols too :/12:40
tjaaltondetails.. :)12:40
mlankhorsttjaalton: seems debuild -b -j256 works here?12:43
tjaaltonhow many times did you run it?12:44
tjaaltonalso, since you don't have 256 cores I doubt it'll hit the race :)12:44
mlankhorstfine I'll let it loop a bunch of times :P12:45
tjaaltonI'm running with -j812:45
mlankhorst4 cores?12:45
tjaalton4+412:45
tjaaltonHT12:45
mlankhorstah12:45
mlankhorstyeah i have the i5 no ht :(12:45
mlankhorstnext system!!12:45
tjaaltonit seems to be failing on gallium/radeon though, generating *.td isn't finished before llvm-tblgen is run12:47
tjaaltonI mean all the failures have been there now12:47
mlankhorsttjaalton: yeah repeatedly doing it on that directory fails12:50
mlankhorstthose incs seem like they should be added though by make depend12:51
tjaaltonthe lp build passed this time12:55
mlankhorstxorg-server seems to love to hang on the xvfb randomly, didn't manage to reproduce it :/13:12
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mlankhorstbut that's at least radeon nailed down, talk about thinkos :)13:54
Hanmachm nearly all packages for 3.5.0-17.26 are finish ... only the armhf takes so long :'( ... hm launchpad should have some "notic me when the build is finish" option ...14:53
tjaaltonyou shouldn't care about that14:57
tjaaltonit's not going to help14:57
mlankhorstyou mean xorg-server?14:58
Hanmaci meand https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.5.0-17.26 ... i wait for the packages so i could upgrade my linux and linux-lowlatency packages ... 15:00
Hanmaci know it does not solv my problem :( but i am happy about new packages ... its like x-mas :D15:00
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SarvattRAOF: seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1057000 ?17:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1057000 in unity (Ubuntu) "[Ubuntu 12.04.1/12.10] nVidia drivers 304.51 prevent autohidden Unity launcher from revealing" [High,Confirmed]17:36
Sarvattthat got uploaded to quantal today, whoops :(17:37
tjaaltonsigh17:40
mlankhorstargh, my keyboard is detected as a mouse..17:51
Hanmacyeah the 3.5.0-17.26 packages are finish ... they took > 8 hours ... i could read a book in this time ...20:01

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