[05:10] <Kilos> cremora minora
[05:14] <Kilos> hmmm no early birds today
[05:14]  * Kilos gets all the worms
[05:51] <Kilos> wbb trying to setup kppp
[06:16] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:17] <superfly> heya magespawn
[06:18] <magespawn> whats up superfly?
[06:18] <superfly> magespawn: the sky?
[06:18] <magespawn> luckily that is always up, would hate for that to fall
[06:19] <superfly> indeed, it would be quite tragic, I'd imagine
[06:19] <magespawn> i have found a use for those little foam rings in cd/dvd packs
[06:20] <superfly> oh?
[06:21] <magespawn> stick them on the bottom of things that are light but need a little padding eg portable hard drives
[06:21] <superfly> ah, awesome idea
[06:29] <magespawn> now if i can patent it i will be rich lol
[06:31] <magespawn> need to find a glue that will not disolve the ring
[06:38] <magespawn> ty superfly
[06:39] <superfly> magespawn: for what?
[06:41] <magespawn> thinking that is an awesome idea
[06:42] <superfly> well, it is.
[07:12] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:12] <Kilos> magespawn, 
[07:12] <superfly> hi Kilos, welcome back
[07:15] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[07:16] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[07:16] <Kilos> i need to get kppp working because for some strange reason sakis3g isnt working to mxit today
[07:17] <Kilos> but dunno if it can find the modem if sakis3g is connected
[07:19] <Kilos> superfly, how do i give this file back to root
[07:19] <Kilos> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-miles" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[07:20] <Kilos> i dunno why its mine
[07:21] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[07:21] <Kilos> the hummer
[07:21] <magespawn> Kilos wait for confirmation but can you not chown it to root?
[07:22] <Kilos> oh maybe with root:root
[07:22] <Kilos> instead of miles:miles
[07:22] <Kilos> does that work
[07:22] <Kilos> hehe
[07:23] <Kilos> i think sakis3g steals the temp folder
[07:23] <magespawn> not sure 
[07:23] <Kilos> but 
[07:23] <Kilos> it seems to be a common prob
[07:24] <Kilos> http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/14.html
[07:25] <Kilos> last paragraph shows it
[07:25] <Kilos> but not the noob way to fix it
[07:25] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[07:26] <zeref> hi Kilos 
[07:28] <Kilos> if sakis stole it with the chmod command then if i change it sakis wont work
[07:30] <not_found> morning Kilos , superfly , magespawn 
[07:31] <magespawn> hey  not_found 
[07:31] <magespawn> why does  it need to do that
[07:31] <magespawn> ?
[07:32] <magespawn> if it does i think you can add it to a group that will give it ownership of that
[07:33] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[07:34] <Kilos> its part of the setup commands magespawn 
[07:34] <Kilos> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580427
[07:34] <Kilos> i think thats the right link
[07:41] <Kilos> if 12.04 could enable mobile broadband like 10.10 then one wouldnt need to go kppp or sakis3g
[07:42] <magespawn> mmm will have to read up on it
[07:43] <Kilos> if i try edit 8ta in nm that i used with cell yesterday it gives this error message
[07:43] <Kilos> No agents were available for this request.
[07:44] <Kilos> it doesnt even see theres a working modem there
[07:44] <Kilos> grrr
[07:48] <magespawn> bbl
[07:48] <magespawn> work
[07:48] <magespawn>  /away work
[07:48] <Kilos> lol
[07:48] <Vince-0> Morn Mourn
[07:48] <Kilos> work is good
[07:48] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:49] <Vince-0> what's hip and happening hiphopapotamus
[07:53] <Kilos> hehe
[08:01] <superfly> Kilos: that's a file created by KDE for you, it should not be owned by root, otherwise you'll get lots of issues in KDE
[08:01] <Kilos> eish
[08:02] <Kilos> i thought i had done something wrong again
[08:02] <superfly> Kilos: can you open Konsole and run "tail /var/log/syslog" and then unplug your modem, plug it in again, and then pastebin the logs please?
[08:02] <superfly> WITHOUT sakis3g
[08:03] <Kilos> ok
[08:28] <Kilos> now sakis cant come on so using cellphone
[08:28] <Kilos> superfly,  http://slexy.org/view/s21pezkMtr
[08:29] <Kilos> did the command before and after unplugin modem
[08:29] <Kilos> bottom is after replugin
[08:30] <Kilos> is it switching to or from storage?
[08:32] <Kilos> the first time it went back to prompt
[08:38] <superfly> Kilos: try /dev/ttyUSB1 and /dev/ttyUSB2
[08:38] <Kilos> with kppp superfly ?
[08:39] <superfly> yes
[08:39] <Kilos> what do they mean with init strings
[08:40] <Kilos> i go try again wbb
[09:36] <Kilos> sigh superfly 
[09:36] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2Uy6DMWbt
[09:36] <Kilos> what do you enter as modem name also
[09:36] <superfly> Kilos: don't use sudo when running KPPP
[09:37] <Kilos> when i tell it connect it says modem busy
[09:37] <superfly> just run it from your menu
[09:37] <Kilos> it wont run without sudo
[09:37] <Kilos> oh not konsole
[09:38] <Kilos> ok lemme try that
[09:51] <Kilos>  Configuration file "/home/miles/.kde/share/config/kppprc" not writable.
[09:51] <Kilos> Please contact your system administrator.
[09:52] <Kilos> kppp can not create or read from
[09:52] <Kilos> /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kppp/kppp.pid.
[09:52] <Kilos> superfly, ^^
[09:52] <superfly> Kilos: yes, because you've been running KPPP as root!
[09:53] <Kilos> i ran it from that xthing
[09:53] <superfly> Kilos: sudo chown miles:miles /home/miles/.kde/share/config/kppprc
[09:53] <Kilos> menu
[09:53] <superfly> Kilos: yes, which is how you're supposed to. but before that you were running it as root, so now you've made the config file owned by root
[09:54] <Kilos> ah
[09:54] <Kilos> superfly, what do you type in as modem name
[09:55] <Kilos> anyone you like like koos?
[09:55] <superfly> the name? anything...
[09:55] <Kilos> ty i go try
[09:55] <Kilos> wbb
[09:55] <superfly> I normally name it after the model model
[09:55] <Kilos> ok
[09:55] <Kilos> ty
[10:00] <superfly> kilos-: any success?
[10:00] <kilos-> nope same messages
[10:00] <superfly> did you run that command I sent you?
[10:00] <kilos-> chown didnt work
[10:00] <kilos-> yip
[10:01] <superfly> kilos-: with the "sudo" in front of it?
[10:01] <kilos-> yip
[10:01] <superfly> did that have any error messages?
[10:01] <kilos-> no straight to prompt
[10:02] <superfly> OK, try chmod 644 /home/miles/.kde/share/config/kppprc
[10:03] <kilos-> done
[10:03] <superfly> no errors?>
[10:03] <kilos-> will go off sakis and try kppp again
[10:03] <kilos-> none
[10:04] <superfly> kilos-: try this... sudo adduser miles dialout
[10:07] <kilos> nope
[10:07] <kilos> actually i tried to get into /var/cache/apt/archives/ yesterday and it all belongs to root
[10:09] <Kilos> must i chown my whole /miles/ directory
[10:10] <Kilos> or use the -R thingie in chown
[10:10] <Kilos> switch is it?
[10:36] <superfly> Kilos: no
[10:36] <superfly> remember the last time you used -R ?
[10:36] <Kilos> ya
[10:37] <Kilos> hehe
[10:37] <Kilos> shame gave poor tumbles half a days work
[10:37] <superfly> Kilos: and besides, /var/cache/apt/archives *will* and *should* be owned by rott
[10:37] <superfly> *root
[10:38] <Kilos> this kubuntu has an over aggresive root
[10:38] <superfly> Kilos: not at all
[10:38] <Kilos> oh my
[10:38] <superfly> Kilos: you run sudo FAR too often
[10:38] <Kilos> i cant even go there and install a package from there
[10:39] <Kilos> well if chown and chmod cant take over them kppp files then i got probs
[10:41] <superfly> Kilos: are you getting the same error about reading the KPP file?
[10:42] <Kilos> yip
[10:42] <Kilos> no change after chmod either superfly 
[10:43] <superfly> Kilos: so it still says, "Configuration file "/home/miles/.kde/share/config/kppprc" not writable." ?
[10:43] <Kilos> ya
[10:43] <superfly> Kilos: you sure? are you sure it's not another file with a similar name?
[10:44] <Kilos> when i tried kppp pc even hung
[10:44] <Kilos> did a reboot
[10:44] <Kilos> lemme try again
[10:48] <kilos-> superfly,  kppp can not create or read from
[10:48] <kilos-> /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kppp/kppp.pid
[10:48] <kilos-> must i same chmod that one
[10:49] <superfly> chown it
[10:49] <superfly> sudo chown miles:miles /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kppp/kppp.pid
[10:50] <kilos-> ok back to prompt
[10:51] <kilos-> i go try kppp again
[10:51] <superfly> yes
[10:52] <inetpro> ai
[10:53]  * inetpro dying in the heat of Pretoria
[10:55] <kilos> ai
[10:55] <kilos> kppp can not create or read from
[10:55] <kilos> /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kppp/kppp.pid.
[10:55] <kilos> chown dont work
[16:46]  * Kilos relaxes on maverick for a while
[16:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:46]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[16:48] <superfly> Kilos: sudo chown -R miles:miles /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kppp
[16:49] <Kilos> ok will go back to kubuntu first ty superfly 
[16:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:51] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:51] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:41] <Kilos> superfly, im gonna do another clean install. this pc very sick
[17:41] <Kilos> wouldnt boot past bios 
[17:41] <Kilos> took battery out disconnected maverick then it booted 
[17:42] <Kilos> now  with kppp from launcher it says cant find kppp executable
[17:43] <Kilos> and pidgin mxit doesnt work anymore
[17:43] <Kilos> only xmpp
[17:44] <Kilos> maybe i didnt make a good usb startup disk to install with
[17:45] <Kilos> and the iso is 1 meg to big for a cd
[17:45] <Kilos> or 11m i forget now
[17:49] <Kilos> what about modprobing the 3g modem?
[17:56] <superfly> Kilos: first see if the USB modem comes up by itself
[17:57] <Kilos> with sakis disconnected superfly ?
[17:57] <superfly> Kilos: don't even download sakis
[17:58] <Kilos> oh you mean after clean install?
[17:58] <Kilos> ok can i connect via cellphone
[17:58] <Kilos> need some connection  to get updated superfly 
[17:59] <superfly> Kilos: after a clean install, run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" (the -f is very important) to see what happens when you plug your modem in. Then look for those "/dev/ttyUSB1" devices to appear
[18:00] <Kilos> ok will use other pc to come online with
[18:00] <Kilos> ty
[18:04] <Kilos> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?60199-Missing-usbserial-module-prevents-Franklin-U600-Wimax-modem-from-working
[18:05] <Kilos> will be back after install
[18:59] <magespawn> evening
[19:02] <superfly> hi magespawn
[19:06] <superfly> hi Kilos, what happened?
[19:06] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[19:06] <Kilos> it saw the modem even before tail was run
[19:07] <superfly> great
[19:07] <Kilos> yoy tell me what happened superfly
[19:07] <Kilos> hehe
[19:07] <magespawn> hey superfly
[19:07] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[19:07] <magespawn> cool a solution?
[19:07] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[19:07] <Kilos> i got tail though, it shows uid errors
[19:07] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2pEJG2YhD
[19:08] <Kilos> yeah nm works this time
[19:08] <Kilos> yoooooohoooooo
[19:08] <superfly> awesome!
[19:08] <Kilos> now one of you tell me that every install is the same
[19:08] <magespawn> every install is the same
[19:08] <Kilos> im so happy
[19:08] <magespawn> is that okay?
[19:08] <Kilos> ty for the patience superfly
[19:09] <superfly> Kilos: that's just noise, don't worry about it
[19:09] <Kilos> rofl
[19:09] <superfly> Kilos: You're welcome
[19:09] <magespawn> but what was the problem?
[19:09] <Kilos> ??
[19:09] <Kilos> other 10 installs it didnt see the modem
[19:10] <magespawn> yes but why?
[19:10] <magespawn>  only 10 installs? you slowing down
[19:10] <Kilos> ive already rsynced archives and update upgraded
[19:10] <Kilos> fastest install ever here
[19:10] <Kilos> 15 mins to first reboot
[19:11] <Kilos> magespawn: i have no idea why, its beyond my reasoning
[19:12] <Kilos> do you see me as using quassel
[19:12] <Kilos> still gotta sort them things but first gonna reboot
[19:13] <Kilos> hold thumbs
[19:13] <Kilos> toods for now
[19:18] <Kilos> hahaha no sound
[19:18] <Kilos> lemme try onboard socket
[19:27] <Kilos> so lekker when you aptitude install and it says need to get 0kB
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> whole clean install cost 19m
[19:28] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[19:29] <Kilos> hey not_foundyou winning
[19:35] <bakuman> so... is it possible to let dhcp give ip's secuancially?
[19:35] <bakuman> *sequentially 
[19:37] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. i go sleep without worrying about nm for a change
[19:37] <Kilos> see you all tomorrow
[19:46] <magespawn> bakuman i have never tried
[19:47] <magespawn> i have assigned them to mac address though
[19:48] <magespawn> and that way sequentially
[19:50] <bakuman> yea, but not exaclty what I am looking for :d 
[19:50] <magespawn> also i have never setup dhcp from a computer always from a router
[19:51] <magespawn> maybe inetpro or Symmetria  would know
[19:51] <bakuman> im busy on my tp-link. flashed it with openWRT
[19:51] <magespawn> and?
[19:52] <bakuman> that is where the dhcp server is, not pc
[19:52] <magespawn> have not tried that yet
[19:54] <bakuman> but thanks anyway :D
[19:55]  * bakuman continues watching Babylon 5
[19:55] <magespawn> cheers all bedtime
[19:57] <bakuman> cheers
[21:08] <smistry> Hi Guys, quick one, where can I get Ubuntu Stickers
[21:24]  * Symmetria installs an esxi server
[21:24] <Symmetria> heh had a spare box with 8gigs of ram in it and a quad-core i5 cpu, and since esxi is free, worth installing that on it