[00:00] <unsobill> not sure - will install chrome
[00:00] <nomadFaust>   I don't see anything relevant in fstab
[00:00] <terminhell> !fuse
[00:00] <nomadFaust> stab is not the culprit
[00:01] <nomadFaust> Is it possible to remove the fuse module?
[00:01] <terminhell> yep
[00:01] <nomadFaust> Rmmod fuse does not remove it
[00:02] <nomadFaust> And it's not in modules.conf or modeprobe.conf either
[00:02] <nomadFaust> What do I do
[00:02] <terminhell> hmm
[00:03] <nomadFaust> Rmmod says that there is no such module
[00:03] <terminhell> is ubuntu using systemd? i forget
[00:03] <nomadFaust> Donna
[00:03] <nomadFaust> I don't know
[00:04] <terminhell> if it is, or you are, you could try systemctl disable fuse.service
[00:04] <nomadFaust> I'm in a root shell without /usr and other mount points loaded
[00:04] <nomadFaust> I don't have even apt-get
[00:05] <terminhell> 0,o hmmk, well... thats strange
[00:07] <terminhell> you may have to recompile your kernel without it?
[00:09] <terminhell> nomadFaust: you could try looking in /libs/modules/*ubuntu kernel*/kernel/fs
[00:09] <Cong> how do I use xwininfo to grab the IDs from each toplevel?
[00:10] <Cong> without click around
[00:10] <terminhell> hmm
[00:10] <Cong> without clicking
[00:11] <terminhell> looks like with -name
[00:11] <nith1210> Cong you might have to use a different tool like wmctrl
[00:11] <nith1210> but I'm not sure which one
[00:11] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, how would i install grub to mbr from a live cd.. i am chroot into Lucid right now
[00:12] <terminhell> Cong: ya, xwininfo -name nameOFwindow
[00:12] <nith1210> oh, I didn't know that one
[00:12] <Cong> terminhell, what if I don't know the names.
[00:12] <nith1210> WeThePeople: do you know which /dev/sd? is your /?
[00:12] <terminhell> guess? haha
[00:13] <Cong> lol
[00:13] <terminhell> Cong: man xwininfo ?
[00:15] <nith1210> WeThePeople: Basically the procedure goes like this: 1. mount your / into /mnt; 2 mount --bind /proc and /sys into /mnt/proc and /mnt/sys
[00:15] <OerHeks> !grub
[00:15] <Cong> terminhell, I was thinking something like xwininfo -root -children | grep "window id:
[00:15] <nith1210> WeThePeople: Next chroot into /mnt and du a sudo -a... or follow those instructions
[00:15] <terminhell> Cong: go for it, connect 5
[00:16] <goddard> is there a hot key i can use to automatically put execution properties or mod +x
[00:17] <Cong> goddard, just a guess, and I am 100% sure there is no such thing.
[00:17] <jrib> should be easy to write such a thing, but then I don't see the point
[00:18] <jk_> goddard, how about creating an alias?
[00:19] <goddard> jk_: what do you mean a system link will work like that
[00:21] <jk_> goddard, you could put "alias xx='chmod a+x' into your .bashrc file, then just type "xx filename" to make "filename" executable. You would have to log out and back in, first, to make the alias active, but then it would be there forever.
[00:21] <Cong> this should do it, alias modexecute="chmod u+x"
[00:21] <jrib> Cong: the anti-alias :)
[00:22] <User_> Hello.
[00:22] <nith1210> Hi
[00:22] <Hatori> hello user_
[00:23] <TJ-> jk_ goddard  2 improvements: Put the alias in "~/.bash_aliases" and simply source that file in the current shell. Either "source ~/.bash_aliases" or ". ~/.bash_aliases"
[00:26] <achandra> drussell, ping
[00:29] <pr0metheu5> Hey guys. How do I increase the size of my installation partition?
[00:30] <milehigh> http://imgur.com/JdBDq - getting this error on boot, hitting I to ignore boots into OS fine, manually running fsck does not fix the issue: http://fpaste.org/Wmky/ - any ideas?
[00:30] <jagginess> pr0metheu5, try gparted live cd
[00:30] <pr0metheu5> I tried to using gparted (made some free space by shrinking other partitions) but it wouldn't let me increase the size of the ext4 partition where ubuntu is installed. It only went up to a few more mbs.
[00:30] <Cong> what about the disk utility? can't that do it?
[00:31] <jpmh> using 12.04 I want to change the command line that the Firefox launcher icon invokes, how do I edit what the launcher launches?
[00:31] <pr0metheu5> I just have to make free space and resize the ext4 partition though, right?
[00:31] <jagginess> pr0metheu5, i didnt say that
[00:31] <jagginess> pr0metheu5, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[00:31] <pr0metheu5> What do I do then jagginess?
[00:31] <jagginess> pr0metheu5, try gparted live cd
[00:31] <pr0metheu5> I did use the livecd.
[00:32] <jagginess> pr0metheu5, which livecd ?
[00:32] <pr0metheu5> Gparted on a liveusb.
[00:32] <Hatori> use gparted to resize your ext4 partition
[00:33] <pr0metheu5> That's what I tried to do hatori, but it would only increase in about 6 more mbs, no more.
[00:33] <steveGODSchild> I need some help
[00:33] <pr0metheu5> There was 15mb of free space on the disk.
[00:34] <pr0metheu5> As in, unpartitoned space.
[00:34] <Wangpeng> hello everyone
[00:34] <pr0metheu5> Maybe I need to make more free space.
[00:35] <steveGODSchild> I have ubuntu 12.04 and it wwont recognize my dvd burner
[00:35] <Wangpeng> could install ubuntu before winxp
[00:35] <Hatori> promotheu5, 15 mb???? What disk are you using ? That was too little for some new disk
[00:35] <pr0metheu5> Hatori I mean in unpartitoned space, there are several more partitions.
[00:35] <pr0metheu5> 15mb was the space that was unused.
[00:38] <trism> jpmh: cp /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/; then edit the Exec= line
[00:38] <Hatori> promoteu5, i don't exactly,but maybe reserved by system :d just my guessing :d
[00:38] <trism> jpmh: you may need to add it back to your launcher after you edit it
[00:38] <Hatori> i don't know exactly
[00:39] <jpmh> trism:  thank you so much - trying that now
[00:40] <WeThePeople> nith1210, sda5 is linux part.
[00:41] <WeThePeople> nith1210, i have chroot up and running already
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: still going?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: did:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda; sudo update-grub    not nail it?
[00:45] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, i took a break.. back now
[00:45] <WeThePeople> no
[00:45] <morbo3000> is there room for a question? or are people busy?
[00:45] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, does sda need to be specified?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: does the update-grub   show kernels?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: yes, or the installation doesn't know what drive to install to, will it
[00:46] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, yeah kernels show up
[00:47] <Wangpeng> are android and linux  same thing?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc grub2-common grub-common grub-pc-bin
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Wangpeng: Android uses a Linux kernel
[00:48] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259149/
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: read what I wrote, then read the command you ran. They are not the same
[00:48] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, its sda5 fyi
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: yes, but the MBR goes to /dev/sda which is why I gave /dev/sda
[00:49] <Wangpeng> actionparship: that means linux is improtant for a new student?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: if you change the comamnds given and find it doesn't work. Don't be suprised
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Wangpeng: if they use android then yes
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: one again:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda; sudo update-grub
[00:50] <morbo3000> i am running ubuntu 12.04 lts. flash 11.2 r202 and firefox 15.0.1 I can't get flash to work. When I browse to a page with flash, i don't get the missing plug-in puzzle piece. just a blank white area.
[00:50] <morbo3000> i appreciate any help anyone can offer.
[00:50] <Wangpeng> thank for ActionParsnip
[00:51] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, thanks, brb..
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: its also not on /dev/sda5, that is the extended partition
[00:51] <morbo3000> i've run flash-aid and some other fixes, to no avail.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: actually, it will. my bad
[00:51] <Cong> morbo, did you install any other flash player gnash or gdef somoething?
[00:51] <morbo3000> not intentionally. it's a clean install of ubuntu. i just did it two days ago.
[00:52] <morbo3000> how would i check. i'm a novice.. though been around computers a long time, including the terminal.
[00:52] <ardchoille> morbo3000: how did you install flash? sudo apt-get flash-installer ?
[00:53] <TJ-> morbo3000: Could it be the browser is choosing to do HTML5 video but failing in some way? A good way to check is to move the mouse into the area and right-click. If you get the standard Firefox context menu then you know there's no special plug-in activity there
[00:53] <morbo3000> i think it was already installed. in firefox it shows as a plug-in. the other factor is that chromium doesn't work either. and i believe it is supposed to be inside.
[00:53] <Wangpeng> ActionParsnip,  can i install ubuntu befor
[00:53] <Wangpeng> before i install windows
[00:54] <morbo3000> i can't right click inside the window. right now, i'm using youtube as the testing ground.
[00:54] <Scunizi> When changing ownership of a file to "root" is it simply "chown root <file.name>" ??
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Wangpeng: you can but you will need to boot to the ubuntu liveCD and reinstate grub as the junk windows installer will blindly overwrite grub in the mbr
[00:55] <TJ-> morbo3000: If there's no right-click in the window, then some plugin has taken control in that area. Can you right-click outside the video area and get the context-menu?
[00:55] <ardchoille> Scunizi: sudo chown root:root file.name
[00:56] <Wangpeng> ActionParsnip,  thank you, i will try now
[00:56] <Scunizi> ardchoille: perfect.. thanks.. then to give it read/write to root and read only to everyone else is that "chmod 611 <file.name> ?
[00:57] <morbo3000> dammit. it just crashed. the whole thing. can't get anything to move but the mouse. gonna hard reboot.
[00:57] <Scunizi> ardchoille: oops... sorry I meant 311
[00:58] <ardchoille> Scunizi:  sudo chmod 644 file.name
[00:58] <ardchoille> Scunizi: read = 4, write = 2, execute = 1
[00:58] <morbo3000> is it best to test this in firefox or chromium? and youtube or some other site?
[00:58] <z127_> hi folks, in precise, gettext-base seems to conflict with gettext-base:i386 on amd64. is there a workaround to install both?
[00:58] <Scunizi> ardchoille: ah..I had the numerical sequence backwards
[00:59] <Scunizi> ardchoille: thanks!
[00:59] <ardchoille> yw
[00:59] <Cong> morbo3000, metacafe.
[01:01] <morbo3000> ok. on metacafe, if i right click inside the metacafe toolbar, i get the contextual menu. but anywhere else in the window it won't right click.
[01:02] <morbo3000> oh wait. not true.
[01:02] <morbo3000> inside of each thumbnail, i can right-click. but not in the empty space in the screen.
[01:04] <TJ-> morbo3000: Some sites may disable right-click response using Javascript
[01:04] <Hatori> z127_ that for different arch
[01:04] <morbo3000> tj-:i upgraded javascript because when i went to plugins it said that it had disabled it because it was old.
[01:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I believe Firebug has a setting to debug scripts and momentarily disable them for stuff like that
[01:04] <ardchoille> a vain attempt to protect items on a web page :)
[01:04] <hmmwhatsthisdo> morbo3000: you mean Java?
[01:05] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, thanks it worked, so i can write it down what was the command again
[01:05] <morbo3000> hmmm: yes
[01:05] <TJ-> morbo3000: Javascript is not the same thing as Java - confusing, I know
[01:05] <morbo3000> java
[01:05] <morbo3000> right. my mistake.
[01:05] <hmmwhatsthisdo> morbo3000: Javascript is directly parsed by the browser, Java is separate
[01:05] <TJ-> morbo3000: Best to give the browser script language its official name : ECMA-262  :p
[01:05] <morbo3000> i upgraded to the open-source version of java. now firefox doesn't give me that warning.
[01:05] <Cong> livescript!
[01:06] <ardchoille> TJ-: yeah, I often wonder why they chose that name
[01:07] <Cong> the noun livescript is so much nicer.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: one again:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda; sudo update-grub
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: just used irssi history :)
[01:07] <z127_> Hatori: yeah, but most other packages can be installed i386 in parallel.
[01:08] <Cong> livescript describes what javascript does.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: I use this for chroot help http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[01:08] <z127_> and aptitude install wine actually wants to include gettext-base:i386 on amd64
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> z127_: what about with apt-get
[01:08] <Hatori> z127_, yes...with multiarch support, you should ensure them
[01:08] <z127_> anyway, using apt-get works
[01:08] <z127_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[01:09] <z127_> bye
[01:09] <morbo3000> so, the theory is, because i can't right-click inside of it, that a different plug-in is conflicting. correct?
[01:09] <TJ-> Archtivity: Orginally, it was Netscape wanted a way to have Java applets interact with the HTML page. So they decided to create a scripting language to do that. Because it was for 'scripting' Java applets they called it "JavaScript" and Sun trademarked it. Later, it was made an international standard ECMA-262
[01:10] <TJ-> arrgh, that was for ardchoille
[01:10] <ardchoille> TJ-: Ah, nice bit of history there
[01:10] <morbo3000> does the fact that it happens in both chromium and firefox help?
[01:10] <TJ-> morbo3000: Usually - unless ECMA-262 (ecmascript) is simply capturing the right-click event and doing nothing
[01:11] <Cong> morbo3000, go to the software centre and see if there are any other flash viewers installed.
[01:12] <Cong> firefox and has its own have of dealing with the context menu. firefox has it's down context menu event.
[01:13] <morbo3000> it sure doesn't help that i have gradient bifocals and the monitor is up a little bit. gets uncomfortable trying things. definitely a first world problem.
[01:13] <morbo3000> what category is flash viewers under?
[01:14] <Cong> there is no category in the installed section.
[01:14] <Hatori> flashplugin-nonfree
[01:14] <morbo3000> there is accessories, developer tools, games, graphics, internet, office, sound and video, themes and tweaks, universal access and uncategorized
[01:14] <Cong> search for flash.
[01:15] <unsobill> can som1 walk me on how to upgrade to 3.3.6 kernel ?
[01:15] <Cong> and swfdec, and gnash, lightspark
[01:15] <morbo3000> ubuntu restricted extras
[01:16] <morbo3000> nothing else. which makes no sense since firefox says it is there, and i've installed it.
[01:16] <unsobill> recstricted extras - how would i get there ?
[01:16] <unsobill> oh nevermind
[01:17] <unsobill> any1 has good working manual on 3.3.6 kernel update on ubuntu ?
[01:17] <MonkeyDust> unsobill  the latest supported kernel is 3.2.0-31
[01:18] <unsobill> and that kernel freezing up my system
[01:18]  * ActionParsnip is confused why people still use aptitude....
[01:18] <Cong> unsobill, make it (could take more than an hour) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAo1QCQXODo
[01:18] <morbo3000> jeez. i uninstalled it yesterday while playing with things. we'll see what happens after i reinstall it.
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> or install chrome and use the flash plugin there :)
[01:19] <seednode> Know what I'd love? An apt-get frontend similar to Arch's yaourt.
[01:19] <seednode> Being able to search all the repos with it would be nice.
[01:19] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: that doesn't work either. which is confusing since chromium is independent of the system install of flash, right?
[01:20] <rainfyre> Hi everyone.  Is boot-repair still in the repositories?
[01:20] <rainfyre> I'm running xubuntu, but it's not finding boot-repair.  Does xubuntu use the same repos as ubuntu?
[01:21] <zer0n> um, excuse me?
[01:21] <seednode> rainfyre: It should use the same repos.
[01:22] <seednode> rainfyre, Not sure what boot-repair is, though.
[01:22] <dn4> where is firefox in the file system?
[01:22] <morbo3000> ok. flash is installed. reloaded metacafe. same thing. i can right click in the metacafe toolbar. and in the thumbnails. but not in the empty white space at the top, which i assume is flash.
[01:22] <zer0n> I was just wondering if one can make 12.04.01 behave like 10.04 lucid
[01:22] <zer0n> but mostly look like lucid
[01:22] <OerHeks> dn4, "locate firefox "
[01:22] <rainfyre> seednode: it's a pretty slick grub fixer
[01:22] <seednode> zer0n, do you mean change away from Unity?
[01:22] <zer0n> anyone?
[01:23] <zer0n> yes
[01:23] <seednode> I can help with that.
[01:23] <rainfyre> seednode: but it doesn't seem to be in the repos anymore
[01:23] <seednode> PM me.
[01:23] <seednode> I can walk you through it.
[01:23] <zer0n> over to the old GNOME desktop
[01:23] <Cong> dn4, try /usr/bin/firefox
[01:24] <seednode> Netsplit?
[01:24] <seednode> Or just mass disconnection?
[01:24] <silverarrow> I am in live CD and try to store a xorg log on a usb stick, but struggel to make Widows read it, which codeset does windows read?
[01:25] <sam__> I need to open a pdf with pfx key file(digital signiture) I hate adobe reader I have doc viewer and foxit reader anybody knows how i can enter my key?
[01:25] <aeml> can someone help me out
[01:26] <dn4> thanks
[01:26] <aeml> Im trying to install my asus ati radeon hd 4650 and every time i install any driver ive found it always boots to a tty
[01:26] <dn4> I installed awesome and firefox did not show up
[01:26] <sam__> how to insert pfx digital signature in foxit reader or doc viewer
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: http://kb.iu.edu/data/acux.html
[01:27] <Cong> dn4 how?
[01:27] <morbo3000> still working on making flash work. i just got a warning "a script on this page may be busy, or may have stopped responding. Script: resrouce://gre/modules/xpcomutils.jsm:323
[01:27] <dn4> Cong, It isn't showing up on the menu bar of awesome haha
[01:27] <Cong> dn4, how did you install it?
[01:27] <dn4> sudo apt-get install awesome
[01:28] <sam__> anybody here ? anyone know about pfx digital signature on foxit or doc viewer please answer me if you know about it
[01:28] <seednode> dn4: Have you tried launching it from command line?
[01:28] <somsip> dn4: You have to edit your .config/awesome/rc.lua to add the debian menu. And you may need to edit that too. Install dmenu and bind to a MOD key instead
[01:28] <seednode> sam__, sorry, I don't use PDFs
[01:28] <silverarrow> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure how this applies really, I store it in "UTF-8" and it turns out jibberish
[01:28] <Cong> dn4, okay. I don't get where you're going.
[01:29] <sam__> no prob seednode
[01:29] <silverarrow> ActionParsnip: I have the option ISO-8859-1,   ISO-8859-15,     CP1252
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: save the text in a file, use the command given and it will convert the file, you can then open it in windows
[01:29] <dn4> debian menu shows up but firefox is not under network
[01:30] <sam__> anybody heard about  pfx key for pdf?
[01:30] <seednode> dn4: Isn't firefox usually under "Internet", not Network?
[01:30] <somsip> dn4: then you need to add it to your debian menu
[01:30] <somsip> seednode: probably a different menu than you're used to. This is the awesome menu in Awesome WM
[01:31] <somsip> dn4: but really - use dmenu instead
[01:31] <seednode> somsip, I used Awesome for a year or so; I just never really used the menu. I might be thinking of a custom menu I used, though.
[01:31] <morbo3000> running chromium, on metacafe, i get the puzzle piece "couldn't load plug-in"
[01:32] <somsip> seednode: I never use the menu. But looking at it, I don't have Firefox in there either. So it must not ad hooks, or add them in a non-standard place, as expected by debian.menu
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[01:33] <seednode> Yeah, I eventually ended up switching to Openbox again; it has decent tiling support.
[01:33] <jacob_> hey guies
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[01:33] <somsip> seednode: ah. awesome doesn't have tiling support. It just does tililng.
[01:34] <jacob_> hows erryones day going
[01:34] <seednode> somsip: Yeah, I meant that Openbox has decent tiling for a non-native tiling WM. I mainly just use it for easier config.
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[01:34] <somsip> seednode: each to their own. I do like awesome, though am still tweaking it after a year or so
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[01:37] <morbo3000> in task manager in chromium, while on a page with flash, in the task manager, flash doesn't show up. browser, tab:metacafe, gnu process
[01:39] <morbo3000> in about:plugins there are two items for flash. one is /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so. the other is use/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:39] <morbo3000> just on a lark i disabled the installer one, but it didn't help.
[01:41] <Cong> morbo3000, can you view the html5 videos on youtube?
[01:41] <morbo3000> cong: only if i disable flash
[01:42] <Cong> video driver installed?
[01:43] <morbo3000> i don't know. i did a clean install. ran all updates.
[01:43] <Cong> drivers don't come with the updates.
[01:44] <morbo3000> ok. how am i going to figure that out.
[01:44] <Cong> you click system/administration/install drivers
[01:45] <seednode> morbo3000: Or you can download the drivers from the manufacturers website, in many cases.
[01:45] <morbo3000> cong:from ubuntu software center? i appreciate everyone's patience.
[01:46] <Cong> top, left system menu
[01:46] <Cong> on your desktop screen
[01:48] <morbo3000> cong: sigh. i hate being stupid. on the ubuntu desktop have file/edit/view/go/help
[01:48] <seednode> morbo3000, Being new to Ubuntu doesn't make someone stupid.
[01:48] <morbo3000> thanks seednode
[01:49] <Cong> what ubuntu are you on morbo3000?
[01:49] <morbo3000> 12
[01:50] <morbo3000> 12.04 lts
[01:50] <Cong> search for hardware drivers
[01:50] <morbo3000> LTS
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Cong: open source video drivers come with the install
[01:51] <Cong> Don't tell me ActionParsnip. Tell morbo3000.
[01:52] <clarence> on a good hard HD tested with smart mon tools i am getting a seek error "unable to seek on /dev/sdc:  Invalid argument"
[01:52] <morbo3000> cong: i think that what you were talking about is the "system settings" in the dock. it's a gear and a wrench
[01:53] <Cong> it should be a circuit board and lock, right guys?
[01:54] <morbo3000> cong: yes. additional drivers. i clicked on that, and it searched. and said "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[01:54] <morbo3000> cong: yes. it was a circuit board and a lock. to get there i had to click the system settings icon on the dock which was about 7 icons down.
[01:55] <Cong> no drivers listed?
[01:56] <morbo3000> cong: under hardware the options are :additional drivers, bluetooth, color, displays, keyboard and mouse and trackpad.
[01:56] <morbo3000> i double-clicked additional drivers and it di a search answering "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[01:57] <Cong> what's in displays?
[01:58] <Cong> yes, you said that. What else is there?
[01:58] <clarence> on a good hard HD tested with smart mon tools i am getting a seek error "unable to seek on /dev/sdc:  Invalid argument"
[01:58] <morbo3000> cong: laptop (which it isn't) resolutions 1280x1024 5:4 rotation normal launcher placement all displays sticky edges on
[01:59] <Cong> go back to addition drivers.
[02:02] <Cong> looks for entries.
[02:02] <morbo3000> there is nothing there.
[02:02] <Yourdaddy> hello everyone
[02:02] <Cong> Was flash work normally before the reinstalling of Ubuntu.
[02:02] <Yourdaddy> I was wondering if anyone knows why qbittorent no longer launches
[02:04] <Yourdaddy> was woundering if someone could help me out here
[02:04] <morbo3000> i don't know. it was an old system. i think 9. my kids used it, and at the time, i had installed opendns to block sites like youtube. but i'm pretty sure that the games they were playing like roblox were flash
[02:05] <Yourdaddy> qbittorent installed right but will not open
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, How did you install it?
[02:06] <jaequery> how can i  increase net.nf_conntrack_max ? w/o rebooting the server? i'm on debian
[02:06] <Yourdaddy> i did throw ubuntu software center
[02:07] <Cong> roblox: Platform(s) 	Microsoft Windows XP/Vista/7, Mac OS X
[02:07] <morbo3000> damn this is frustrating. it doesn't make sense.
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, What is your release and was it a PPA?
[02:08] <Cong> it was most probably a application. http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110226152912/roblox/images/thumb/c/c8/Robloxubuntu.png/1000px-Robloxubuntu.png
[02:08] <chase> anyone else streaming the presidential debate on youtube? It keeps dropping on me...very annoying.
[02:08] <morbo3000> i went into chromium. in the address bar, typing about:plugins. it shows two shockwave flash. one is  usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so the other is usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[02:09] <Yourdaddy> the release is 12.04
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> and
[02:09] <mumixam> chase: seems fine here
[02:09] <Yourdaddy> sorry i dont know what PPA is
[02:09] <chase> umixam: Must be me then. Weird...never have a problem with normal youtube and internet is stable.
[02:10] <mumixam> you might be streaming from a overloaded server
[02:10] <morbo3000> i disabled both and restarted chrome. and this time, a black space appeared. i could right-click inside of it. then i went back and activated just the mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and restarted chromium. went to metacafe and this time, got the puzzle piece with the plugin could not be found.
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, Did you install from a tar or deb package?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, this a a PPA for future reference. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[02:12] <Cong> morbo3000, delete both and do a re-installation.
[02:12] <Yourdaddy> ok
[02:12] <morbo3000> cong: in the about:plugins there is not an option to delete. only to disable.
[02:12] <Yourdaddy> well i found this  qbittorrent 2.9.7-1
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy,If you want help you need to read questions carefully and try if you can to answer them, the key to getting help here are details.
[02:13] <Cong> morbo3000, follow the paths and delete.
[02:13] <Yourdaddy> i==considering i got it right off the ubuntu software center i am assuming its the deb file
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> !info qbittorrent
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, Ah I was not sure it was in the repos, I would try running qbittorrent in the terminal and see if there is an error.
[02:16] <Yourdaddy> how would i run the command. I am assuming it would be a sudo command
[02:16] <sere> im on a labtop and my usb mouse is choppy/drags anyone know why this would happend?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, you would not need sudo it would not run as a superuser just type or copy and paste from the channel to the terminal and hit enter.
[02:17] <Yourdaddy> ok will try it
[02:17] <sere> im on a labtop and my usb mouse is choppy/drags anyone know why this would happend? 12.04 lts. amd btw
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, Are you running in root?
[02:17] <morbo3000> cong: rm -Rf ? and then the path?
[02:18] <Yourdaddy> no i am not
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> coo
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:20] <morbo3000> ok. got 'em deleted.
[02:20] <morbo3000> cong: there are multiple ways to install flash. do you have a recommendation?
[02:21] <Yourdaddy> ok this is really wires. I went looking through hidden files as well. even though i instelled qbittorent nothing in hidden files. I re installed twice
[02:21] <Yourdaddy> wired
[02:22] <Yourdaddy> Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! Please file a bug report at:
[02:22] <Yourdaddy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+filebug
[02:22] <Yourdaddy> Please include the following information with the report:
[02:22] <Yourdaddy> comes up
[02:22] <Cong> morbo3000, synaptics or aptitude
[02:23] <Yourdaddy> command-not-found version: 0.2.44
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, Looking on the web I see others at least two having problems. Does the Icon show in the unity panel on the left if you are using ubuntu?
[02:25] <Yourdaddy> yes it shows up. but dose not open
[02:25] <morbo3000> cong: i'm installing synaptic right now. why is it better than ubuntu software center?
[02:26] <Cong> you are installing synaptics? doesn't it come with ubuntu 12.04?
[02:26] <morbo3000> no.
[02:26] <morbo3000> i checked.
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, Hard for me to say maybe others will have an idea, there was a bug but supposedly fixed. If it were me I would just use another, but this may not be your interest
[02:27] <Cong> morbo3000, it doesn't matter what you use. they all use apt in the background.
[02:28] <Yourdaddy> hmmm ...... dose it say how they fixed it
[02:29] <morbo3000> man. something was really wonky. after deleting flash manually, and testing its absence in chrome, when i went to the software center and clicked on adobe flash plugin, it said to remove.
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> Yourdaddy, I never use the software center but apt-get to see if there are any errors, here is the bug, there is a link for a fix but dated 4/11/2011   https://bugs.launchpad.net/qbittorrent/+bug/773901
[02:30] <Cong> it's normal. remove it.
[02:31] <harrismrubin_> how do i get a calender with all of my todo as my desktop wallpaper
[02:32] <escott> harrismrubin_, never heard of anything like that, but if you can find an application to make your desktop into an image you can set that image as your wallpaper
[02:33] <morbo3000> harrismrubin_ on the mac there is something called geektool that will allow you to do some unix voodoo on your desktop. you might start there and see if there's anyway to do it in ubuntu
[02:33] <harrismrubin_> I REALLY NEED IT
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: didn't you ask earlier, or was that someone else?
[02:34] <harrismrubin_> in didnt ask
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: gimme a sec
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/77065/use-a-calendar-as-desktop-wallpaper
[02:35] <harrismrubin_> how did you get that so fast
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: browser history
[02:35] <harrismrubin_> have you done this before
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: somebody asked the same thing a few hours back
[02:36] <morbo3000> cong: dammit. i was so excited that that might have fixed it.
[02:36] <harrismrubin_> so im not the only one
[02:37] <Cong> morbo3000, what happen?
[02:37] <Yourdaddy> was looking online and on the ubuntu page people are saying that they downgraded and it worked..
[02:37] <morbo3000> just the same in both firefox and chromium.
[02:38] <morbo3000> yourdaddy: downgraded to make flash work? or are you talking about something else.
[02:38] <Cong> morbo3000, did you reinstall flash player?
[02:38] <Yourdaddy> something else sorry
[02:39] <morbo3000> cong: i did reinstall flash player. i just went in to chromium's about:plugins, and sure enough, there are two of them again. one in flashplugin-installer and the other one regular.
[02:39] <morbo3000> maybe if i delete just the one.
[02:40] <Cong> morbo3000, uninstall flash player and try a alternative like gnash.
[02:40] <Mechdave> G'day all, does anyone remember what package replaced ia32-libs?
[02:41] <homecable> whats up brother join irc.darkinfo.org channel #Sports-Bar
[02:41] <homecable> whoops
[02:41] <Cong> morbo3000, down side is you can't view any other page except youtube.
[02:41] <homecable> wrong window
[02:41] <homecable> shit
[02:41] <FloodBot1> homecable: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[02:41] <morbo3000> cong: i'll try that. interestingly, when i deleted the flashplugin-installer, the other one disappeared too.
[02:41] <escott> Mechdave, multiarch. you can just install program:i386
[02:42] <Cong> it's a link and you just deleted the master version
[02:42] <Mechdave> escott, thanks
[02:42] <morbo3000> action parsnip. i'm chatting on my mac so i won't be able to paste. let me see what happens.
[02:43] <Cong> or may be it was a hard link
[02:43] <icallitvera> wait, i'm just jumping in here but are you sure that one of the flashes in the plugins page isn't pepper flash from google?
[02:45] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: it gave a bunch of info about the system and then ii flashpluin-installer with flash in red.
[02:45] <morbo3000> 11.2.202.238ubuntu0.12.04.1
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[02:45] <STMelon> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[02:45] <STMelon> 1st
[02:46] <STMelon> see if adobe even picks up that you have flash
[02:46] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: precise
[02:46] <STMelon> surprised no1 mentioned that site
[02:46]  * STMelon sighs
[02:46] <Cong> lol
[02:46] <morbo3000> yes team?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: and the output of: uname -m
[02:46] <morbo3000> i686
[02:48] <harrismrubin_> thank you ActionParsnip
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashpluin-installer
[02:49] <harrismrubin_> ActionParsnip,  give people this link when they ask my question http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=818053
[02:49] <Cong> I got an idea. Head of easy youtube downloader? well it's self-descriptive. you can download the video files and watch them offline if any of this doesn't help.
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: morbo3000 enable the partner repo and install the adobe-flashplugin
[02:49] <puppy_parade> does eyefinity not work on ubuntu?
[02:49] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: it just uninstalled it.
[02:49] <morbo3000> can you rephrase that actionparnip?
[02:50] <morbo3000> my terminal skills are going up.. that's for sure.
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: in software centre enable the partner repo
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: sweet, close all web browsers then rerun it, should be ok
[02:52] <Cong> fingers crossed!
[02:52] <morbo3000> rerun what? metacafe?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: the web browser, to then use flash
[02:52] <morbo3000> i didn't do the enable partner repo thing.
[02:53] <morbo3000> i assume i haven't reinstalled flash, right? we just deleted it?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: if you run:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     you can uncomment the lines with 'partner' on that start with the word 'deb'
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: then save the new file, close gedit and run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[02:56] <morbo3000> ok. it opened gedit. with that file. comments are ## ?
[02:57] <morbo3000> oh. i see. # deb http://archive.canonical, etc. …
[02:57] <morbo3000> delte the #?
[02:58] <unsobill> how... to... update...to...3.3.6 kernel
[02:58] <unsobill> my ubuntu is freezing every time
[02:58] <unsobill> im going to shoot it with my .45
[02:58] <seednode> Does Ubuntu let you do that?
[02:59] <morbo3000> action parsnip it's busy doing its thing
[02:59] <somsip> unsobill: what version of ubuntu?
[02:59] <unsobill> 12.04TLS
[03:01] <harrismrubin_> how do i get a todo list on the side of my desktop
[03:02] <Cong> kaTow! The sound of a .45 calibre interruption.
[03:02] <somsip> unsobill: current supported is 3.2.0 per this page. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all So you will have to go unsupported
[03:03] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: didn't work in firefox. i'm trying chromium.
[03:03] <unsobill> going unsupported meaning im on my own right ?
[03:03] <somsip> unsobill: it means you don't get support from this channel. You may find a PPA that does what you want
[03:03] <somsip> !PPA | unsobill
[03:04] <Cong> time to bust out the gnash then.
[03:04] <unsobill> sadness taking over me
[03:04] <unsobill> as i regret that day installing ubuntu
[03:06] <Cong> Ubuntu isn't for everyone, and you have to remember it's free and their philosophy is usability not warranty.
[03:06] <morbo3000> action parsnip and song: google chrome does not show a flash plugin installed.
[03:06] <morbo3000> oops. cong. stupid autocorrect
[03:07] <morbo3000> chromium
[03:09] <Cong> morbo3000, what's it going to be?
[03:09] <morbo3000> cong: what do you mean?
[03:10] <Cong> what are you going to do now?
[03:10] <morbo3000> chuckle. give up? try and install flash again? install gnash? run flash-aid in firefox?
[03:10] <superduperpowers> howdy
[03:11] <icallitvera> oh hai there
[03:11] <Cong> morbo3000, good luck!
[03:11] <morbo3000> uninstall chromium and reinstall?
[03:11] <morbo3000> cong: i've gone beyond the pale, eh? chuckle.
[03:12] <morbo3000> well.. software center says it's not installed, so i'll give it a go again.
[03:12] <Cong> I don't know why some people have more than one web browser.
[03:12] <Yourdaddy> i think i found something that needs to be reported
[03:12] <Cong> Try gnash first.
[03:12] <Yourdaddy> knight@ubuntu:~$ sduo apt-get clean
[03:12] <Yourdaddy> Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! Please file a bug report at:
[03:12] <Yourdaddy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+filebug
[03:12] <Yourdaddy> Please include the following information with the report:
[03:12] <Yourdaddy> command-not-found version: 0.2.44
[03:12] <FloodBot1> Yourdaddy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <PryMaL> Cong: I have multiple browsers for testing purposes at work
[03:12] <OerHeks> LoLz  sduo
[03:13] <Martell> SUDO
[03:13] <morbo3000> cong: when i said to install adobe flash it says gtk+ panel for adobe flash and adobe flash player plugin version 11 need to be removed.
[03:13] <Martell> FTW
[03:13] <Yourdaddy> ok
[03:13] <morbo3000> cong: the reason i had chromium was because i understood that it did flash internally and didn't rely on the os. i may have said that wrong.
[03:14] <Yourdaddy> anyway this message is happening with all my apps
[03:14] <liamliamliam> hello all!
[03:14] <Cong> PryMaL, that's okay. Most people, these people aren't developers, and those people have more than one.
[03:14] <Yourdaddy> when testing in launcher and even when using sudo apt-get update
[03:14] <Cong> which is not okay.
[03:15] <Martell> Hello, i dualboot ubuntu 11.04 32bit from win 7 64bit, i dont know what i did wrong, but looks like i cannot boot to my windows 7.. maybe i messed with the swap area or the boot loader, or i just 'formatted' the win 7 partition with ubuntu
[03:15] <Martell> Anyone help me :(
[03:15] <morbo3000> well.. i'm a noob.. so just tryin'…
[03:16] <Cong> morbo3000, installing gnash now?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: chrome does flash internally, not chromium
[03:17] <Cong> that could be true.
[03:17] <morbo3000> oh. thanks actionparsnip.
[03:18] <morbo3000> yes. gonna install gnash. software center doesn't have it.. so i assume i use apt-get to get it.
[03:18] <Cong> nope.
[03:18] <Cong> software centre was to have it.
[03:18] <morbo3000> huh. it showed swf with it. that's not it is it?
[03:19] <Cong> is gnash written above it?
[03:19] <Martell> Here is the fdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259301/
[03:19] <Cong> gnash only supports up to flash 10. youtube still uses flash 10.
[03:20] <morbo3000> gnash swf viewer
[03:20] <Cong> nothing else uses flash 10.
[03:20] <Cong> yeah.  go for it.
[03:20] <morbo3000> ok.
[03:21] <aristidesfl> HI, can I convert an existing partition to LVM?
[03:21] <morbo3000> i'm wondering if i'm going to need to try an older install of ubuntu. i don't really have anything to lose because i don't have anything on here.
[03:21] <aristidesfl> or do I need to move the data which is there first?
[03:22] <Cong> I got that wrong. Gnash does not support flash 10.
[03:23] <WangPeng> hello,everyone. have a nice day
[03:23] <morbo3000> cong: well.. my needs are very simple. my son is doing an online school. in order to take quizzes, it needs flash. that's how i realized it was missing. but i'm sure it's not using a sophisticated release of flash. though i could be wrong.
[03:23] <Cong> Gnash supports SWF up to some features from v9.
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: uninstall all flash packages and install chrome from the google website, you will then have flash
[03:24] <morbo3000> oh. chrome is available on ubuntu? i thought only chromium.
[03:25] <Cong> I thought you got the implied message.
[03:26] <morbo3000> i did. i was exclaiming my surprise.
[03:26] <Cong> The message before this one.
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: you need to download it separate
[03:27] <morbo3000> ok. thanks. i'll take it from here. don't want to be getting on anyones nerves.
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/?platform=linux&hl=en
[03:27] <Yourdaddy> reported  to ubuntu support network the following bug. hopefully they can fix this
[03:28] <Cong> morbo3000, hows gnash coming along?
[03:28] <morbo3000> cong: installed gnash, but all it did was popup a player.
[03:29] <Cong> morbo3000, which browser?
[03:29] <morbo3000> not in a browser. it was a standalone program.
[03:29] <kuhwallskee> Hello!! I have a dell n5010 laptop that is freezing on resum from suspend. I also found bug #1001315, I don't see a solution for it, but am I looking in the correct place?
[03:29] <PryMaL> I'm just working on password-less ssh login: Can someone confirm for me please that once I have generated the ssh-keygen i just ahve to cat the id-rsa.pub over to the destination machine into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[03:29] <morbo3000> i just ran sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer and it said it's not installed. so i'm going to try chrome.
[03:30] <somsip> PryMaL: different solutions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46930/how-can-i-set-up-password-less-ssh-login
[03:30] <Cong> morbo3000, you got the wrong package. you should have got mozilla-plugin-gnash.
[03:31] <kuhwallskee> 1001315
[03:31] <tyler_d> PryMaL: you should not be copy/paste, scp the file and rename it
[03:31] <tyler_d> PryMaL: then ensure your permissions are ok
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> chrome rocks, flash plays smooooth
[03:31] <PryMaL> somsip: thanks
[03:32] <PryMaL> tyler_d: I've used - cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh simba 'cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[03:32] <neostream> #elementary #desktop on #ubuntu #precise (http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/05/install-elementary-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts.html)
[03:33] <tyler_d> PryMaL: use `scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub simba:~/.ssh/authorized_keys`
[03:34] <somsip> tyler_d: won't that overwrite anything already in there? That might be be desired behaviour...
[03:34] <PryMaL> tyler_d: thats done, but it's still asking for a password - thoughts?!
[03:34] <docvell> Question: I am trying to load Firefox however it says it has already loaded (I don't see it) how can I stop the process (via command line)?
[03:34] <seednode> killall firefox
[03:34] <docvell> thanks
[03:34] <docvell> thanks
[03:35] <tyler_d> somsip: if he had done it before then he prolly wouldn't be asking for help.. but typical solution yes you are right
[03:35] <tyler_d> PryMaL: that's the pass for ssh'ing to the server "simba"
[03:35] <somsip> tyler_d: fair enough
[03:35] <morbo3000> i'm instlaling chrome
[03:35] <sunilthaha> PryMaL, you can use ssh-copy-id command
[03:36] <PryMaL> tyler_d: yes, this exact same process worked for other servers which is the cause of my confusion
[03:36] <tyler_d> PryMaL: why not use seahorse to get it done though?
[03:36] <erealz_> ok so how do i cd into a dir that has space in the name
[03:36] <PryMaL> tyler_d: never heard of seahorse... To Google!  Thanks
[03:37] <tyler_d> PryMaL: just run seahorse
[03:37] <seednode> erealz_, surround with single quotes.
[03:37] <seednode> i.e. '/home/username/file name.jpg'
[03:37] <erealz_> ahhh
[03:37] <sere> im on a labtop and my usb mouse is choppy/drags anyone know why this would happend? 12.04 lts. amd btw
[03:38] <tyler_d> PryMaL: file ---> new --> secure shell key --> etc etc
[03:38] <neostream> [tips] restart #xserver without  restarting (http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/05/restart-x-server-ubuntu-12-04-without-rebooting.html)
[03:39] <tyler_d> sere: labtop? and please define that... how does the touchpad work?
[03:39] <aristidesfl> Can I convert an existing partition to LVM without removing the data?
[03:39] <neostream> install #emerald #windows decorator on #ubuntu #precise (http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/06/how-to-install-emerald-window-decorator-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts.html)
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> neostream: please don't
[03:40] <tyler_d> in any event, better to start fresh aristidesfl
[03:41] <aristidesfl> tyler_d whay
[03:41] <aristidesfl> why
[03:41] <Martell> Hello, i dualboot ubuntu 11.04 32bit from win 7 64bit, i dont know what i did wrong, but looks like i cannot boot to my windows 7.. maybe i messed with the swap area or the boot loader, or i just 'formatted' the win 7 partition with ubuntu
[03:42] <tyler_d> aristidesfl: to ensure that the lvm in tact and the data is copied over... tasks such as this should be handled backup ----> format ----> copy
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> Martell: if you run:  sudo update-grub    is windows listed?
[03:43] <sere> tyler_d  the touchpad works just fine only the usb mouse is skipping
[03:44] <tyler_d> sere: did you try a diff input and a diff mouse?
[03:44] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: i'm still here.. btw.. don't want to leave you hanging.. don't want to be rude.
[03:45] <morbo3000> you too cong
[03:45] <Martell> ActionParsnip, "Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda3", but i boot it from grub, it gave me error something like "insert disc" or similar
[03:45] <Cong> it works!
[03:45] <PryMaL> tyler_d: thanks for the direction, problem solved.  It was ssh being a pain in the bum: service just needed a restart on the server.  thanks heaps
[03:46] <Cong> morbo3000, it's aaahhh live?!
[03:46] <tyler_d> PryMaL: np, glad you got it sorted :)
[03:46] <morbo3000> chrome is just now booting up. (my computer is slow)
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Martell: you may need to chkdsk your C:. You can do it from Windows CD
[03:47] <sere> tyler_d, no...not sure how
[03:48] <tyler_d> sere: unplug it and plug it in somewhere else.... then try a different mouse
[03:49] <morbo3000> cong: dammit! didn't even work in chrome.
[03:49] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: see above.
[03:49] <Drake> Hello
[03:49] <Cong> morbo3000, don't give up.
[03:49] <morbo3000> i can't imagine doing anything more other than downgrading to a previous version of ubuntu. can you recommend a version.
[03:49] <Martell> ActionParsnip, and how do i do chkdsk on it? btw the windows 7 is 64bit, do i need the same?
[03:49] <morbo3000> thanks cong. i thought i was pissing you off.
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Martell: just something that can read the NTFS partition you have
[03:50] <Martell> pardon me
[03:51] <sere> tyler_d,  tried it but dont have another mouse.....how do i change input
[03:52] <tyler_d> sere: you unplug the mouse from where it is and plug it in somewheres else
[03:52] <McClein> hello, i have a pptpd vpn running between linux and winxp and I don't know how to share a folder
[03:53] <McClein> or how to browse files
[03:53] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: thanks for your help. i'm gonna take it from here and see if google search and i can figure things out. i appreciate your time.
[03:54] <Martell> ActionParsnip, here is the fdisk, btw i have 500gb but it only show me 250gb of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259301/
[03:54] <Nith1210> morbo3000: Are you just trying to get Flash working?
[03:55] <LuvLinuxOS> Hi
[03:55] <morbo3000> nith1210: yes. we've stood on our heads trying a million things.
[03:55] <morbo3000> been at it for maybe 2 hours. final step is to install chrome. i was trying with chromium. but even installing chrome didn't work.
[03:56] <morbo3000> just now i did http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/flashplugin-installer in chrome. we'll see what happens
[03:56] <Nith1210> ok, I just got here so hear me out firefox-->tools-->plugin's
[03:56] <Nith1210> do you see Shockwave flash?
[03:56] <Nith1210> And what does the button on the far right of it say?
[03:56] <morbo3000> sec nith1210 i'll do it.
[03:58] <DJJeff> I tried installing http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions and got some make errors in ubuntu 12.04
[03:58] <ztag100> wow, I always seem to be stuck in this situation, I'm about to install ubuntu on a computer, but the new version comes out in 2 weeks, so I might as well wait
[03:59] <DJJeff> 12.04 is a LTS
[03:59] <Nith1210> ztag100: how frequently do you enjoy reinstalling?
[03:59] <ztag100> Nith1210, not about reinstalling, it's a machine that I just acquired
[04:00] <Nith1210> right, what I mean is if you want to use one OS for 3-5 years, you should actually use 12.04 instead of 12.10
[04:00] <Nith1210> if you like reinstalling once every 6 months, then wait
[04:00] <ztag100> Nith1210: I update as soon as a new version comes out
[04:00] <ztag100> also, that machine will be an experimental laptop
[04:00] <DJJeff> I dont like unity at all I am trying my best to disable it as much as possible
[04:00] <Nith1210> Ahh, I'd wait if I were in your shoes then - it'd be easier
[04:01] <DJJeff> seems to be pretty difficult
[04:01] <Nith1210> I use gnome-shell; I don't like unity
[04:01] <ztag100> Nith1210, well, that seems to be the issue
[04:01] <ztag100> but, also, I'm trying to decide if I might want to use fedora on that machine
[04:01] <DJJeff> Nith1210 is there a guide I can use to get gnome-shell for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:01] <dnivra> Hello! What is the command to dereference symlinks i.e. find out which is the original file the symlink points to. Eg: /usr/bin/x-www-browser is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser, which in turn in a symlink to the actual browser. So, when I run "<command> <options> x-www-browser", I should get the actual browser executable.
[04:02] <ztag100> DJJeff, well, here
[04:02] <dnivra> i tried ls -H and ls -L but the didn't work.
[04:02] <ztag100> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[04:02] <yekoms> ls -la
[04:02] <ztag100> that should just about do it
[04:02] <ztag100> :)
[04:02] <tsimpson> dnivra: readlink
[04:02] <yekoms> dnivra, use ls -la
[04:02] <yekoms> that will show symlinks.
[04:03] <tsimpson> dnivra: "readlink -f /some/link" will follow the link all the way until the real file is found
[04:03] <Nith1210> DJJeff: yeah, if you use synaptic or ztag100's apt-get; it will let you choose "gnome" from the login shell
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> dnivra: you can use the file command. eg:  file /usr/bin/x-www-browser
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> tsimpson: oh thats clever, mental note. Cheers dude
[04:03] <Nith1210> ztag100: alternatively you could properly partition your home from your OS, install 12.04 for now and install 12.10 when it comes out.
[04:03] <Nith1210> I prefer wipes to updates anyway
[04:03] <ztag100> anyone know the main differences between 12.04-12.10?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: newer kernel and drivers. Quantal isn't LTS.
[04:04] <DJJeff> gnome-shell is already the newest version.
[04:04] <tsimpson> ztag100: 6 months
[04:04] <DJJeff> do I just logout and back in?
[04:04] <Nith1210> DJJeff: If you do go the route of gnome-shell though, you'll probably want to visit the extensions site as well... but play with it first
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: http://ubuntulife.net/whats-new-in-ubuntu-12-10-alpha-1/
[04:04] <ztag100> tsimpson, ActionParsnip so, no major over hauls?
[04:05] <Nith1210> DJJeff: log out, on the log in screen there's a pulldown above the password box which will let you choose "gnome" instead of "ubuntu"
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: the gnome based release will be Unity3D and no 2D
[04:05] <dnivra> yekoms: ActionParsnip: ls -la and file only do one level of dereference-that's not exactly what I'm looking for.
[04:05] <dnivra> tsimpson: ah thanks for the readlink! works like a charm!
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: pretty big overhaul imho (if you don't use unity then you won't be affected)
[04:05] <ztag100> ActionParsnip, doesn't sound like anything that will really affect me, will it?
[04:05] <ztag100> I do use unity, but, I alwyas use 3D anyway
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: if you can run Unity3D you will equally be unaffected
[04:05] <ztag100> okay
[04:06] <Nith1210> ActionParsnip: heard anything about wayland?
[04:07] <Nith1210> or anyone for that matter?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Nith1210: nothing tbh, not something I've looked into
[04:07] <carpi> I am using ubuntu 12.04. Can someone please tell me how I can remove the menu on the top right corner that says "Available, Away, Busy, Invisible, Offline"?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: later version of Unity too. bug fixes, the usual jive
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> carpi: isn't that the me menu?
[04:08] <ztag100> ActionParsnip: there's also the potential debate between Ubuntu and Fedora, which I'm not quite sure about
[04:08] <ztag100> I've had equally amazing experiences with both
[04:08] <Nith1210> ztag100: install both
[04:08] <Nith1210> one /home, two /
[04:08] <Nith1210> you only need 4-8G per os
[04:08] <ztag100> Nith1210: little bulky isn't it?
[04:08] <yekoms> i didn't like fedora.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> ztag100: debate about what?
[04:09] <ztag100> ActionParsnip, well, I'm not sure what I want to use on the machine
[04:09] <carpi> yea. its the 'me' menu
[04:09] <ztag100> (I meant internal debate)
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> carpi: this: http://www.techblogscafe.com/userfiles/me-menu.jpg
[04:09] <laura91> hi, I just installed ubuntu and am having a problem with monitor overscanning. I need to edit xorg.conf however it does not exist! where is it now? Thanks :)
[04:10] <carpi> ActionParsnip: yup. that one. is there a way to remove that menu. because i don't use it
[04:10] <Martell> how long basically "sudo gpart /dev/sda" take ? its been 15 mins
[04:10] <Nith1210> laura91: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[04:10] <Nith1210> laura91: in essence, you can create one if you really need to, but xorg.conf isn't needed by default anymore
[04:11] <laura91> Nith1210: thanks
[04:11] <ztag100> yekoms: it's really good, especially the latest version
[04:11] <Nith1210> np :)
[04:11] <laura91> Nith1210: why not? the options i need are not in the default displays setup
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> carpi: if you run: apt-cache policy indicator-me      does it show it as installed?
[04:11] <yekoms> what is the latest?
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Nith1210: xorg.conf can be needed
[04:12] <McClein> hello, i have a pptpd vpn running between linux and winxp and I don't know how to share a folder
[04:12] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: we installed some stuff from partners. i can't figure out how to uninstall it. to install flash, it tells me i need to uninstall gtk+ control and adobe flash player plugin version 11
[04:12] <Nith1210> sorry, I should rephrase, it will try to guess sane defaults when it's not present, and so it's no longer shipped with xorg.conf
[04:12] <Nith1210> I also use one with my nvidia drivers, so I agree it can be needed
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: not heard of a package called gtk+ control, is that the actual name?
[04:13] <carpi> ActionParsnip: this is what it says indicator-me:
[04:13] <carpi>   Installed: (none)
[04:13] <carpi>   Candidate: (none)
[04:13] <carpi>   Version table:
[04:13] <Nith1210> !pastebin
[04:14] <Nith1210> haha, achievement points for first use of ubottu :)
[04:14] <laura91> Nith1210: thanks. i am on intel so shouldnt need that. anyhow, is there a good way to autogenerate one i can change? annoying to manually create all the settings
[04:14] <laura91> Nith1210: lolty
[04:15] <Nith1210> laura91: The site I mentioned has a skeleton ; I don't know if there is a way to generate one outside of the nvidia world (but that by no means means there isn't a way).
[04:15] <Nith1210> rather, I don't know how to generate one...
[04:15] <laura91> ok, thanks
[04:15] <Nith1210> I'm really not wording things well right now XD
[04:15] <laura91> are you in colorado?
[04:15] <Nith1210> Nope, Toronto here :)
[04:16] <laura91> sometimes i dont word things well when im in colorado
[04:16] <laura91> XD
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> carpi: I'd run:  dpkg -l | grep indica      see if anything sounds suspect
[04:16] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: when i click install in software center for adobe flash plugin it says these items need to be removed: gtk+ control panel for adobe flash (adobe-flash-properties-gtk) and adobe flash player plugin version 11 (adobe-flashplugin)
[04:17] <TJ-> laura91: "xorg --configure"
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: thats fine
[04:17] <morbo3000> i can keep that stuff? just install on top of it?
[04:17] <jagginess> ,/Xorg (capital X)
[04:17] <TJ-> jagginess: thanks, good point! laura91 "Xorg --configure"
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: if it wants to remove them, those packages are not critical
[04:18] <carpi> ActionParsnip: anything in particular that Im supposed to look for?
[04:18] <zykotick9> laura91: if you want to generate an xorg.conf use "sudo X -configure :1"
[04:18]  * jagginess says Xorg -configure (or --configure), makes a sample in ~, a slight error may occur but sample still gets generated
[04:18] <morbo3000> oh. it will remove them? i thought it wanted me to do it first. thanks
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> carpi: something that sounds like a me menu
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> you may also want to point to a TTY without X running, or it'll moan :)
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> tj ^
[04:19] <laura91> TJ-: zykotick9 thanks a ton
[04:19] <carpi> ActionParsnip: there is nothing that looks like an 'indicator me' package..
[04:20] <laura91> zykotick9: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.   Configuration failed.
[04:20] <TJ-> Grrr! I've been staring at Python for too long! "sudo Xorg -configure" to write an active file to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" - without sudo to put one in your home directory as a sample
[04:20] <carpi> ActionParsnip: there is 'indicator-application' and 'indicator-appmenu' .. would that be it?
[04:20] <zykotick9> laura91: sorry i don' know.  good luck.
[04:21] <laura91> kthx
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-application
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> carpi: I think those are what hold the individual indicators
[04:22] <carpi> !info indicator-messages
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> carpi: if you run:  ps -ef | grep menu     do you see a me menu process (or similar)
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> carpi: the messages one is the envelope icon
[04:23] <nina666> hi, im using ubuntu 12.04, 32-bit. my cdRom was working perfectly, and I always burned cd/dvd using k3b. suddenly out of nowhere, i cant burn anymore i get this error: No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system.
[04:23] <carpi> ActionParsnip: when i run "ps -ef | grep menu" i see this "/usr/lib/indicator-appmenu/hud-service"
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> carpi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133478/session-menu-and-me-menu-are-missing-after-upgrade
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> carpi: seems its the indicator-session package you need to remove
[04:25] <paulus68_> ssh problem : I have 2 routers in my network the first gives out 182.168.178.X and the second gives out 192.168.1.X my laptop and my windows pc are both on wifi connected to the 192.168.1 router and they are both able to connect to my server which is on 192.168.178. however I am not able to connect from my server towards my laptop
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> paulus68_: can you ping the IP?
[04:26] <paulus68_> ActionParsnip: I can ping the ip from my windows not from my server
[04:27] <Nith1210> paulus68_: is your second router plugged into your first?
[04:27] <nina666> anyone know solutions to my problem? funny thing is, i cant find any /dev/cdrom.. Is this the file I should be looking for? or something else?
[04:27] <paulus68_> Nith1210: yes it is
[04:27] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, which port to which port?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> nina666: sudo lshw -C drive; sudo lshw -C disk      will show the device names
[04:27] <ztag100> alright, making an ubuntu usb now
[04:27] <morbo3000> action parsnip and nith1210: it just doesn't make sense. i installed chrome. and installed flash. when i do about:plugins in chrome, it shows flash enabled. but when i load a page with flash it says it isn't available.
[04:28] <paulus68_> Seven_Six_Two: standard port
[04:28] <Nith1210> Is it plugged into the "uplink" or "internet" port?
[04:28] <paulus68_> Nith1210: internet
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> morbo3000: try http://rathergood.com/blode2
[04:28] <Nith1210> paulus68_: what would you like to happen?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Nith1210: is it a crossover cable?
[04:28] <Seven_Six_Two> 192 router's wan is plugged in to 182's lan port?
[04:28] <Nith1210> ActionParsnip: most routers will auto-flip anyway
[04:28] <paulus68_> Nith1210: that I can connect from my server towards my laptop
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Nith1210: I'd check your routing table on the server
[04:30] <Nith1210> paulus68_: so the issue is that the routers "internet" port kind of acts like a hardware firewall - your first router can't talk to your second router's ip addresses
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Nith1210: you may need to add a router to the other network via eth0 (or whatever interface you are using)
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> *route  not router
[04:30] <paulus68_> Nith1210: no firewall enabled
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> paulus68_: ^
[04:30] <Nith1210> nono, I'm saying that it acts like a firewall
[04:30] <Nith1210> it's the same reason why people on the internet can't connect directly to your machine
[04:30] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, if your .1.0 network's wan port is in the 178.0 network's lan port, it's the former's firewall
[04:31] <Nith1210> paulus68_: easy solution, create a port forward on  router 2 to the ip address and port of your laptop then connect to your router2's 182 ip
[04:31] <paulus68_> Seven_Six_Two: the firewall on the 1.0 network is disabled on the router
[04:31] <morbo3000> actionparsnip: rathergood.com/blode2 reveals a banner that is rotating, and a square window with the puzzle piece plugin missing.
[04:31] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, what's the netmask for your 178.0 network?
[04:32] <yekoms> how can you use 182? that isnt a private range.
[04:32] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, and which is your internet connected to?
[04:32] <Seven_Six_Two> yekoms, 192.168.182.0
[04:32] <yekoms> you can use 10.* or 192.168.* but how can you use 182.* ?
[04:32] <yekoms> ohhh
[04:32] <yekoms> some routers dont support anything past .1.254
[04:32] <paulus68_> Seven_Six_Two: the internet is connected to 178
[04:33] <Seven_Six_Two> yekoms, it's actually 192.168.178 but there was a typo when I joined
[04:33] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, ok, so the netmask on the server's network is 255.255.255.0?
[04:33] <nina666> ActionParsnip; lshw...drive doesnt give me any output! lshw ... disk only displays my sata
[04:33] <paulus68_> Nith1210: and I already tried the portforwarding no such luck comes back with connection refused
[04:33] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, your server is looking to the default gateway for a network not on it's network
[04:34] <paulus68_> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[04:34] <Nith1210> paulus68_: after creating the port forward, are you connecting to the ip of the laptop, or the ip of router2?
[04:34] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, port forwarding is the firewall, but that's disabled, right?
[04:34] <paulus68_> Nith1210: ip of the laptop
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> nina666: does the optical drive show in BIOS?
[04:34] <Nith1210> The router acts as a firewall regardless of whether or not the firewall is enabled. It is the nature of NAT
[04:34] <Nith1210> paulus68_: use the ip of router2 to connect
[04:34] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, you need to tell your server to look at the .1.0's wan port ip for the .1.whatever subnet
[04:34] <nina666> ActionParsnip; I have to restart for that
[04:34] <nina666> ActionParsnip; brb
[04:35] <Seven_Six_Two> your .178.0 router will see .178.### for your .1.0 router
[04:35] <QuantumState> too bad theres no ubutu for touchpad.
[04:35] <Nautilus> in my new 12.04 setup (fresh and imports from 10.04) I'm mostly using apt-get to install stuff.  Would this be an appropriate install method for git, or should I download from http://git-scm.com/?
[04:36] <Nith1210> Nautilus: I use apt-get to install git and have never had an issue
[04:36] <morbo3000> nith and action i'm giving up for tonight. thanks for the help. nite.
[04:36] <Nautilus> Nith1210: ok, thanks
[04:37] <Nith1210> anytime :)
[04:37] <yekoms> Nautilus, use apt-get install, it'll work fine.
[04:38] <Nautilus> got it going :)
[04:38] <paulus68_> Nith1210: what I did is Is this I created a portforward from my 178 router lets say for argument sake port 20000 towards the ip of my second router which is 178.250 towards the same port 20000, then I forwarded from my 1.0 router the port 20000 towards port 22 on my laptops ip (this procedure is working for another program that I use on my windows) however no such luck on the ssh part
[04:38] <redwarriors25> how to retrieve deleted files in ubuntu
[04:38] <macmartine> Each time I ssh into my ubuntu server, and change to a user x, my variables are not set, such as $GEM_PATH. But if I source ~/.bashrc all is well. I tried this but it didn't work http://stackoverflow.com/questions/820517/bashrc-at-ssh-login Any ideas?
[04:39] <yekoms> macmartine, so when you ssh user@yourip, and su - user2, your vari's arnt set?
[04:39] <alien2050> when you change to another use dont forget the dash (-)
[04:39] <macmartine> yekoms: correct
[04:39] <c_smith_> redwarriors25, did you empty the recycle bin or use the cli program rm?
[04:39] <yekoms> uhm, user2 wont have the same .bashrc as user.
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: do you have a ~/.profile file?
[04:39] <yekoms> you have to copy USER .bashrc to user2 ~
[04:40] <yekoms> or put it in .bashrc on user2, to source user's bashrc
[04:40] <c_smith_> redwarriors25, if the files aren't in your trash folder, they're gone.
[04:40] <Nith1210> paulus68_: Is the reason you're doing this because your first router is actually your modem, and your second router is useful?
[04:41] <macmartine> alien2050: that did it -- what does the dash mean?
[04:41] <paulus68_> Nith1210: yes
[04:41] <c_smith_> redwarriors25, once a file is deleted, it's deleted for good.
[04:41] <Nith1210> paulus68_: I'm using an identical setup - easiest solution is to DMZ from the first router to the second
[04:41] <alien2050> it loads the specific user environment :)
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> macmartine: sudo cp /root/.profile $HOME; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile
[04:42] <alien2050> specifically it loads .bashrc
[04:42] <Nith1210> paulus68_: do you have a second laptop?
[04:42] <alien2050> if using bash
[04:42] <paulus68_> Nith1210: or do I need to change the listning port from the laptop for ssh to another?
[04:42] <macmartine> ActionParsnip: alien2050 's suggestion worked. I left out the dash when switching to the user
[04:42] <Nith1210> paulus68_: no, the port forward should translate for you
[04:42] <paulus68_> Nith1210: I have a windows pc a laptop and a server at my disposal
[04:43] <alien2050> Oh hey ActionParsnip!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: yo
[04:43] <Nith1210> paulus68_: ok, one sec, let me test something really quickly
[04:43] <paulus68_> Nith1210: ok
[04:44] <Nith1210> paulus68_: from the machine you're interested in, does `ssh localhost` work?
[04:44] <Nith1210> paulus68_: if so, does `ssh -p 20000 <router-2-address>` work?
[04:44] <redwarriors25> not  in recycle bin
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> paulus68, why don't you bridge your first router and plug your server in to the other one?
[04:44] <redwarriors25> any software to recover
[04:45] <paulus68_> Nith1210: do you mean that I have to see if I can connect from the server towards laptop?
[04:45] <Nith1210> no, you can do it all from the laptop
[04:46] <Nith1210> paulus68_: oh, I wasn't clear though
[04:46] <nina666> ok I tested from bios
[04:46] <Nith1210> paulus68_: I'll use this... internet --> network 1 --> network2
[04:46] <TigerFromHell> Sup baby
[04:46] <TigerFromHell> Im shy
[04:46] <Nith1210> paulus68_: the ssh you should do is the network 1 address of your second router
[04:46] <nina666> the thing is, when I put a bootable cd nothing happens although the first sequence option is the cdrom
[04:46] <Nith1210> where your laptop is on network2, and network 1 contains router 1 and router 2
[04:47] <nina666> does that mean my whole cdrom device got corrupted?
[04:47] <blinkbox> hello, can i ask a quick question? how do i check if my computer supports IOMMU?
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> blinkbox, is that a cpu instruction?
[04:47] <paulus68_> Nith1210: no my laptop is on network 2 behind router 2
[04:47] <Nith1210> right
[04:48] <blinkbox> Seven_Six_Two, it needs the support of both the chipset and the processor, but anyway, it's named AMD-Vi for AMD, and VT-d for Intel
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !ssh > lotuspsychje
[04:50] <blinkbox> i know that cat /proc/cpuinfo can give the vt-x and the amd-v extensions, but i wonder if they can also tell if it can do AMD-Vi/VT-d . I plan to check using a ubuntu live-cd before I take a plunge into Xen
[04:50] <blinkbox> i'm gonna ask at Xen and KVM as well
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Nith1210:what would that mean if his ssh connection says no route to host?
[04:53] <nina666> but even if my drive got corrupted, how the /dev/cdrom file has gotten removed?
[04:53] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: typically it means he's trying to connect from one private network to another private network
[04:54] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: which means he's not using the forwarding, he's trying to use the ip addresses directly
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Nith1210, did he create an entry in his server's routing table?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Nith1210:but i tryed remotely ssh on his ip aswell, same router problem, but nmap shows ssh installed
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> *route
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_two:howto add this?
[04:55] <Seven_Six_Two> anything in hosts.deny and hosts.allow that might block ssh from outside of the subnet?
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, with the route add
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, but it will take a good look at the man page
[04:57] <Nith1210> lost him
[04:57] <Nith1210> or her
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:bit its strange i cant connect from remote neither, same problem from his internal network
[04:57] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: the problem isn't the routing, it's the fact that you've got two layers of NAT
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, I thought that if the subnet for his server is 3 255.255.255.0 then all non "this subnet" packets will go to the default gateway (internet). Not all routers will let you hit the outside ip from within the network
[04:58] <Seven_Six_Two> from within my home network, I can't access my server (connected to same router) using the domain name, unless I add it to the hosts file.
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:but howcome i can nmap this same ip remotely and see -sV ssh on him
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> it has to be an ssh block specific then?
[05:00] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm not sure. are you sure it's not his .178.0 router running ssh?
[05:01] <Seven_Six_Two> oh no, he's forwarded ports...
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:that was my first thought too router blocks, but he can ssh on same machine from windows perfectly...
[05:01] <Seven_Six_Two> windows is the .1.0 laptop?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: he got windows laptop yes, but he wants to try the ubuntu laptop with openssh server running
[05:03] <Seven_Six_Two> so let me clarify. he wants to ssh in to his Ubuntu .1.## laptop from his .178.80 server?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:yes correctly, and i cant connect either but his windows pc can connect
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> his laptops are both on the same subnet, so being able to connect is expected.
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> Ok, can he ping the ubuntu laptop?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:no cant ping
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> ok. traceroute?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:didnt try yet, but i think also not
[05:05] <Seven_Six_Two> maybe to give an idea of where it's trying to go. I have the suspicion it's sending packets to the internet.
[05:05] <redwarriors25> is there any software how i can retrieve that file
[05:05] <Seven_Six_Two> because of the netmask
[05:06] <Seven_Six_Two> redwarriors25, I don't know of any point and click software to recover something you put in the trash and then deleted.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two:what else could block an ssh from just a desktop ubuntu?
[05:06] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: I've given him a solution :)
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Nith1210:the 2 layers of NAT?
[05:07] <Nith1210> Internet <-->router1<-->network1<-->router2<-->network2
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> routers can route that way if they know where to point.
[05:08] <Nith1210> router2 provides NAT to all machines on network2 to allow access to everything on the left of router2
[05:08] <redwarriors25> i deleted the file but i cant see in the trash
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> you just need a route defining in the servr of how to get to the remote subnet
[05:08] <Nith1210> router1 provies NAT for everything on the right of router2 to get access to everything on the left of router1
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, yeah, that's what I've been saying!
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> ok guys tnx for help well try that
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> would that also makes sense why i can nmap him from outside
[05:10] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: if it doesn't work, you should go back to the port forwarding trick. Trouble is the port forward on router2 to his laptop was not working
[05:10] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: I'm guessing you live with him ;p
[05:10] <Seven_Six_Two> I really think he should bridge the first router, if that's possible. or disable routing at least.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Nith1210:what i dont get is why his windows laptop can connect ssh on same wifi/router
[05:11] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, it's on the same subnet.
[05:11] <Nith1210> lotuspsychje: in that diagram I drew, everything in the same network can talk to everything else in the same network
[05:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Nith1210, where's the diagram?
[05:11] <Nith1210> Seven_Six_Two: that basically what they ended up doing
[05:12] <Nith1210> Internet <-->router1<-->network1<-->router2<-->network2
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Nith1210, aaw. I thought you meant a real drawing with pretty colours!
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> lol like etherape?
[05:12] <Nith1210> Seven_Six_Two: I'd do ansi but I only just recently switched to irssi and don't know how XD
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> no, like crayons and paper
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> doesn't anyone use crayons any more? (Seven_Six_Two, please stay on topic. This is a support channel)
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> somebody ask a question please. I don't want to do my readings.
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> redwarriors25, did you shift-del?
[05:17] <Hatori> hey,what the problems?
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Hatori, that there are none.
[05:17] <yekoms> how do i prevent users from using setuid(); ?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: only sudo users and root can set that
[05:18] <yekoms> Wrong.
[05:18] <yekoms> you can write C# code to setuid on a system(); call.
[05:18] <yekoms> setuid( 0 );
[05:18] <redwarriors25> nope
[05:18] <yekoms> system("/bin/sudo");
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: yes but the resulting code will need to run as root, won't it
[05:19] <SpacePoet> what's a good way to know where the link in the application menu points to???
[05:19] <Hatori> yekoms ... What the problem?
[05:19] <yekoms> it runs the system(); as root.
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> SpacePoet: grep Exec /usr/share/applications/whatever.desktop
[05:19] <nyuszika7h> yekoms, replace the sudo with whoami
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> SpacePoet, what desktop? Unity?
[05:19] <nyuszika7h> then run the code
[05:19] <yekoms> i tested it, i wrote a small snippet and setuid( 0 ) to VZCTL and sudo, both ran as root
[05:19] <SpacePoet> Seven_Six_Two: gnome 2
[05:19] <yekoms> i did 'id'
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: if you run the compiled binary as user, it wil only have user ccess
[05:19] <yekoms> ActionParsnip, hold on..
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> SpacePoet, there's a program called...alacarte, or something like that. the menu editor.
[05:20] <yekoms> im looking for the source code for what i did
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> would it be recommended running snort on virtualbox ubuntu togheter with honeyd as honeypot?
[05:21] <Hatori> yekoms, what the result if you run as a normal users?
[05:22] <yao_ziyuan> if i buy a tablet with win7/win8 preinstalled, i can reinstall linux on it, right?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: possibly
[05:23] <alien2050> yao_ziyuan: Won't it depend on the OS that the tablet is running?
[05:23] <Hatori> yao_ziyuan, commonly,yes,you can ... But maybe you'd lost your os warranty:d check it
[05:23] <yekoms> Hatori, id:0
[05:24] <yekoms> http://www.adamsinfo.com/linux-c-setuid-setgid-tutorial/ is what i tried.
[05:24] <redwarriors25> any solutions
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: notice the 'adam@staging:~$ su . root'  bit
[05:26] <Hatori> yekoms, i would check it
[05:26] <yekoms> weird, i dont have access to setuid anymore
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: could report a security issue
[05:26] <Seven_Six_Two> redwarriors25, I found an article by searching for "linux deleted file recovery"
[05:26] <yekoms> i already did, but 8.04 isnt supported :x
[05:26] <yekoms> it works in 11.10 aswell.
[05:26] <redwarriors25> link?
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> rly?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: it is in server
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-ext3-ext4-deleted-files-recovery-howto.html
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: ^
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> it ws the first result
[05:28] <nyuszika7h> is your user in the group root, yekom?
[05:28] <nyuszika7h> * yekoms
[05:28] <yekoms> nyuszika7h, no, but has access to sudo.
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: April 2013 is EOL for hardy server
[05:28] <yekoms> yeah i know ActionParsnip
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: so as you so elegantly put it: wrong
[05:29] <yekoms> ok, 8.04 expires in 6~mo
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: so what happened to "06:26 < yekoms> i already did, but 8.04 isnt supported :x"  when you know it's supported?
[05:29] <nyuszika7h> yekoms, that explains why system(".../sudo") worka...
[05:29] <nyuszika7h> * works
[05:30] <yekoms> ActionParsnip, i dont see them working on my "bug" since its EOL is 6~mo away
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: then report the bug for a newer release
[05:30] <yekoms> i'm trying to reproduce it on 11.10
[05:30] <nyuszika7h> for me, even though I used Debian and C; setuid(0) = -1 EPERM
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> i love how the guide compiles with full optimisation, its such a simple bit of code
[05:41] <alien2050> redwarriors25: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47360
[05:43] <redwarriors25> cant dl the link
[05:44] <vvk1> hi all
[05:48] <SpacePoet> how do i decompile something?
[05:49] <Majere> In Ubuntu, while I had Terminal open and in front, I could scroll a background with my mousewheel. Now in Mint, when I try to scroll the Terminal minimizes. What in Ubuntu made this behavior different?
[05:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Majere, compiz plugins.
[05:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Majere, I don't know which. You can run ccsm to modify behaviour like that
[05:51] <Seven_Six_Two> SpacePoet, If you're looking for something like ada pro, there really isn't anything that awesome
[05:51] <SpacePoet> ada pro?
[05:52] <redwarriors25> any 1
[05:53] <redwarriors25> ext4 i have delete a file theres no in trash bin
[05:53] <Majere> So I should download that plugin and look at the Minimize Effect plugin?
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> SpacePoet, I can't remember the name, but there was one utility that installs by default in backtrack 5. Sorry. Ida Pro.
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> SpacePoet, sorry, ida pro works in linux now, but it's not free
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> !trash | redwarriors25
[05:54] <SpacePoet> as in freedom?
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Majere, ccsm is the compiz config settings manager
[05:55] <Seven_Six_Two> redwarriors25, did you read the link I gave you? did it not work?
[05:55] <somsip> Any suggestions for GDrive access from 12.04?
[05:56] <Seven_Six_Two> somsip, chromium. I don't think there's a standalone app yet
[05:56] <redwarriors25> upon typing the local share trash is a diretory how can i go there
[05:56] <somsip> Seven_Six_Two: I'm looking at a few PPA ones. I was after a recommendation which I suppose was a bit naughty in here...
[05:57] <redwarriors25> ubottu
[05:57] <redwarriors25> how can i go there
[05:57] <somsip> redwarriors25: how did you delete it?
[05:58] <kandinski> hi, I am looking to install 12.04 on an external usb stick. What should I google for so I don't end up with a FAT formatted USB stick with wubi as the launcher?
[05:58] <redwarriors25> just pressing delete
[05:58] <redwarriors25> and theres no in the trash bin
[05:58] <redwarriors25> how can i go there in gui  ~/.local/share/Trash/
[05:59] <somsip> redwarriors25: CTRL H in Nautilus will allow you to see .local
[05:59] <redwarriors25> im using ubuntu
[05:59] <redwarriors25> dnt know the version
[06:00] <[deXter]> kandinski, It's best not to do that
[06:00] <kandinski> I am at work running windows, and the window installer from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows leave me with a wubi installation
[06:00] <redwarriors25> imusing 10.04
[06:01] <[deXter]> kandinski, Use pendrivelinux.com
[06:01] <kandinski> [deXter]: not my choice. I am at work, my laptop is busted, I need a recovery usb key.
[06:01] <redwarriors25> doesnt appear in ctrl h
[06:01] <somsip> redwarriors25: sorry - I thought that workd in nautilus too. use a terminal then
[06:01] <kandinski> the pendrivelinux installer keeps saying my empty 4GB USB stick has no memory
[06:01] <[deXter]> kandinski, I meant don't install directly to the USB, instead, copy the Live CD files to the USB and use a persistent  casper file.
[06:01] <[deXter]> kandinski, then try LiLi
[06:01] <lildanger> Im using 10.04 too
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: have you tried unetbootin?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: did you format the device to FAT32?
[06:02] <redwarriors25> what command
[06:03] <redwarriors25> i type the  ~/.local/share/Trash/ and i found expunged, files, info
[06:03] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: nope, I just fdisk'd it
[06:03] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: I was not aware that it required a working filesystem
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: then you need to format it so the filesystem is ready
[06:03] <kandinski> [deXter]: thanks, will look at LiLi
[06:03] <kandinski> ActionParsnip: I see
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: yes, the files are extracted from the ISO and copied to the USB
[06:03] <Majere> Seven_Six_Two: I got the CompizConfig Settings Manager, and I'm a little overwhelmed. I just want to prevent Terminal from minimizing when I scroll a background window. What exactly here can help me?
[06:04] <somsip> Seven_SixTwo: FYI, insync seems to be working fine. https://forums.insynchq.com/discussion/1363/insync-for-linux-beta/p1
[06:05] <kandinski> [deXter]: LiLi is like pendrivelinux, it wants me to have a FAT partition
[06:05] <kandinski> ok then, FAT it is (grumble)
[06:05] <[deXter]> kandinski, It won't matter because the filesystem will be cached in RAM and all changes will be stored on EXT
[06:06] <[deXter]> so actually FAT is quite suitable because it will have a low overhead
[06:06] <[deXter]> If you're really that bothered though, you can use ext4 but you'll just have to copy the files manually, and use extlinux instead of syslinux
[06:07] <kandinski> [deXter]: fair enough. Thanks ActionParsnip too
[06:07] <redwarriors25> where i can find  ~/.local/share/Trash/
[06:11] <ardchoille> redwarriors25: open nautilus and browse to .local > share > Trash
[06:17] <redwarriors25> how can i browse the .local
[06:17] <ashishmalik10> redwarriors25: Open nautilus, press Ctrl+H, go to .local > share > Trash
[06:17] <redwarriors25> cant open ctrl h in 10.04 ubuntu
[06:18] <cdoublejj> okay does any one know how i can lock my driver like in this post, http://askubuntu.com/questions/154387/my-computer-freezes-when-nvidia-drivers-activated   but, with Lubuntu
[06:18] <ashishmalik10> redwarriors25: go to view menu and select "show hidden files" in nautilus
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> redwarriors25: or run:  nautilus  ~/.local/share
[06:19] <ashishmalik10> redwarriors25: that would do
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> easier
[06:20] <redwarriors25> no files o my god
[06:20] <hollier> hi has anyone managed to get Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple Wireless Mouse to work ?
[06:22] <sobrediggler> hey so i compiled the 3.5.4 kernel and iptables can't find the LOG target
[06:22] <cdoublejj> any know how to lock drivers in lubuntu?
[06:23] <sobrediggler> anyone know which module i need to insmod for the LOG target to appear?
[06:25] <crimsonmane> cdoublejj: you mean blacklist them?
[06:25] <cdoublejj> i don't know i jsut need to do waht this guy says, http://askubuntu.com/questions/154387/my-computer-freezes-when-nvidia-drivers-activated
[06:25] <cdoublejj> is says "lock"
[06:25] <cdoublejj> he says*
[06:26] <cdoublejj> i'm not too familiar with linux but, i did figure out the default drivers are killing my system. apperntly if i don't lock them they will update.
[06:26] <crimsonmane> Go instead to the Synaptic Package Manager
[06:26] <crimsonmane> cdoublejj: ^ that was for you
[06:27] <a_b0y> so is ubuntu based on debian unstable?
[06:27] <crimsonmane> no
[06:27] <crimsonmane> actually im not sure
[06:27] <cdoublejj> synaptic doens't list, nvidia-current=295.33. I did how ever go online and downlaod the install from launchpad
[06:27] <crimsonmane> i thought it was based on stable.
[06:27] <a_b0y> but ubuntu ltr is based on debain testing right?
[06:28] <cdoublejj> ubuntu is based on stable as far as i might guess/know
[06:28] <dev_> what is the command for to run .c C++ file ?
[06:29] <a_b0y> i think debian stable is too outdated for compatibility of new hardware and soaftware goals for ubuntu
[06:34] <Majere> In Ubuntu, while I had Terminal open and in front, I could scroll a background with my mousewheel. Now in Mint, when I try to scroll the Terminal minimizes. How can I configure this to not minimize? What does Ubuntu do different?
[06:35] <ashishmalik10> dev_: gcc first.c -o first
[06:35] <ashishmalik10> dev_: to run the compiled file : ./first
[06:35] <dev_> alright
[06:37] <cdoublejj> okay so this might sound dumb but, how do i lock packages in the package manager?
[06:39] <ardchoille> cdoublejj: do you mean !pinning ?
[06:39] <cdoublejj> might have figured it out
[06:39] <cdoublejj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:39] <ardchoille> yep
[06:39] <cdoublejj> ctrl+f and type lock and it will show you
[06:39] <cdoublejj> aaahh deeerrrpp, i didn't even see the URL
[06:40] <cdoublejj> i hope this works these nivida drivers have been ruining lubnuntu for me making it unusable, literally
[06:44] <stefano_> Ciao a tutti volevo chiedervi per cortesia come installare compiz su ubuntu 12.04 grazie
[06:44] <MonkeyDust> !it
[06:45] <stefano_> thank you
[06:46] <Guest75402> hi
[06:53] <cdoublejj> well i installed the supposed known good driver and know machine is borked, it hard locks after auto login. is there away to uninstall them from recovery mode?
[06:54] <Kartagis> !xen
[06:54] <RealOPtyz> ello
[06:55] <RealOPtyz> when i  add my changes to the kernel config file, then go to compile, and wait to find out they dont stick... does anyone have suggestions?
[06:56] <cdoublejj> screw it i'll clean install
[06:56] <Kartagis> did you save?
[06:56] <Kartagis> RealOPtyz: ^
[06:56] <dev_> poop
[06:56] <RealOPtyz> CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT=y
[06:56] <RealOPtyz> CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT_FILE="DSDT.h"
[06:56] <RealOPtyz> these are the lines i manually added to the .config
[06:57] <RealOPtyz> Kartagis: Yes :)
[06:57] <Jupiter123> Hi Guys
[06:58] <RealOPtyz> Kartagis: I manually added the lines, removed the one says its not selected, then did menuconfig, loaded and resaved :\ tried a few things
[06:58] <Jupiter123> my ubuntu isn't playing audio
[06:58] <Jupiter123> I am not sure why
[06:58] <Jupiter123> could you help
[06:58] <cdoublejj> probably didn't install an audio driver
[06:59] <Jupiter123> how to check
[06:59] <cdoublejj> you may be in fora trip to hell, i once had that happen to me and it was some odd qwerk with my mother board, i had to get an entirely different model of mother board
[07:00] <Jupiter123> I got Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric
[07:01] <dev_> I got ubuntu 12
[07:02] <cdoublejj> Jupiter123	 any reason you are using 11.10? would it by any chance be becasue you do not like unity?
[07:02] <Jupiter123> I have xfde as De
[07:03] <kop> 11.04 sound preferences ~ input level auto adjusts . What a PITA ! got a simple cure ?
[07:03] <cdoublejj> xfde? do you mean lxde? if you mean lxde there is lubuntu which is ubuntu based around lxde.
[07:04] <kop> <-- self confessed idiot unknown proportions
[07:05] <Jupiter123> Oops xfce
[07:09] <Jupiter123> anyone who know how to resolve audio issue
[07:10] <kop> Jupiter123,  bigger hammer
[07:11] <scottie> dix
[07:11] <kop> I'm about to kill Pulse for the 40th time
[07:11] <XRS1> check out the software center. theres some other stuff like Jack or Swiss army knife of sound or OSS-highcompat or something
[07:12] <kop> Just when I think it's usable an upgrade phucks it up again
[07:12] <kop> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[07:12] <Jupiter123> idito
[07:12] <Jupiter123> idiot
[07:13] <dev_> is there a way to uninstall all updates i just did or go back ?
[07:13] <kop> Jupiter123,  correct :-/
[07:13] <dev_> is there a way to uninstall all updates i just did or go back ?
[07:13] <scottie> go back
[07:14] <Jupiter123> dev_, You can't
[07:14] <dev_> ?\
[07:14] <dev_> :( darn
[07:14] <scottie> dev_: go back to where you once came
[07:14] <scottie> hi ritz
[07:15] <dev_> scottie how
[07:15] <dev_> 3~
[07:15] <dev_> sudo su
[07:15] <kop> dev_, wrong window
[07:15] <scottie> dev_:  https://www.google.com.au/search?q=uninstall+all+updates+from+ubuntu
[07:15] <dev_> cd ./Desktop/perl
[07:17] <dev_> crap
[07:17] <Kartagis> !language | dev_
[07:17] <dev_> crap?
[07:17] <mattwb> hi, I'm having an issue with a Intel HD Graphics 3000 on Ubuntu 12.04 - I'm not getting the full unity "experience". It appears to be the equivalent to gnome3's "fallback mode".
[07:18] <dev_> what is unity?
[07:18] <scottie> get a real gfx card mattwb
[07:18] <ritz> scottie, hi
[07:18] <mattwb> scottie: it's a laptop
[07:18] <scottie> upgrade
[07:18] <dev_> matt sell it and build your own rig
[07:19] <dev_> prob be cheaper
[07:19] <scottie> y u use ubuntu for good gfx anyway
[07:19] <scottie> no games
[07:19] <dev_> me?
[07:19] <mattwb> I'm not looking for great graphics, I just want the full unity experience
[07:19] <dev_> i dont game
[07:19] <rypervenche> Wow, this channel sure is helpful right now.
[07:19] <dev_> Doesnt mean i cant have a good gfx
[07:21] <alusion> Hey ubuntu my chromium keeps crashing
[07:25] <dev_> im downloading about 1 KB a minute NO JOKE. wifi problem :(
[07:26] <scottie> get windows
[07:26] <scottie> problem solved
[07:26] <Phiscribe> lol man its late
[07:26] <dev_> i do have windows but i hate switching back and worth upon reboot
[07:28] <Eitan> hey guys
[07:28] <dev_> slow day..
[07:28] <Eitan> longgg day
[07:29] <buglyjoe> installed the 12.10 beta. I can't put my finger on what has changed, but unity no longer seems so 'in your face' anymore (which was my biggest gripe with it). Quite usable, nice..
[07:29] <dev_> what is unity
[07:29] <auronandace> !unity
[07:29] <dev_> Still dont know what unity is
[07:29] <dev_> Pics
[07:30] <dev_> ?
[07:30] <SpindizZzy> hi all
[07:30] <Phiscribe> dev_ http://www.google.com/search?q=unity+ubuntu&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=_jptUNuWMom88ATRvICQDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=961
[07:30] <MonkeyDust> unity is a desktop environment, the one with the bar on the left
[07:30] <SpindizZzy> need help setting up an x11vnc session
[07:30] <Phiscribe> see link dev_
[07:30] <SpindizZzy> :)
[07:30] <buglyjoe> dev_ : http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/take-the-tour
[07:31] <MonkeyDust> dev_  this is what unity looks like http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[07:31] <slikts> my route -n looks like this: http://pastebin.com/ZMGvi5Gd
[07:31] <dev_> awh i see now
[07:31] <slikts> how come it still tries to route everything through 192.168.11.1?
[07:32] <slikts> do I need to do something to make the routing table take effect?
[07:32] <slikts> I want to use the usb0 gw as the default
[07:32] <SpindizZzy> something is not working when is start a x11vnc session
[07:33] <SpindizZzy> already tried this:http://www.tavshed.com/?p=118&cpage=1#comment-3449
[07:33] <ardchoille> !details | SpindizZzy
[07:34] <SpindizZzy> ok, so I'm running 12.04 on a desktop and 11.10 on this laptop
[07:34] <SpindizZzy> started ssh session
[07:34] <SpindizZzy> works fine
[07:34] <dev_> is ubottu a bot or human o_0
[07:34] <ardchoille> !bot
[07:34] <SpindizZzy> then try to start x11vnc ==> fail
[07:34] <SpindizZzy> i get XOpenDisplay(":0") failed.
[07:35] <SpacePoet> i installed using wubi now i want to migrate to another hard drive how do i?
[07:39] <SpindizZzy> i use x11vnc -display :0 -auth ~/.Xauthority as command
[07:40] <tim> hi, for some reason, i cannot upgrade to quantic on my laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259515/
[07:40] <dev_> helloo
[07:41] <dev_> hi
[07:41] <dev_> ?
[07:41] <Phiscribe> SpacePoet read this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi  however i think you would be better off just doing another install to a real partition
[07:41] <SpacePoet> but then ill lose evertyhing
[07:41] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: backup to a usb key?
[07:41] <dev_> small price to bay
[07:41] <dev_> pay
[07:42] <SpacePoet> ardchoille: how about all the settings and software?
[07:42] <somsip> tim: Not yet supported in this channel try #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <tim> somsip: ok
[07:42] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: you can backup personal files to ubuntu one or dropbox
[07:42] <SpacePoet> ardchoille: yeah but it wont be the same
[07:42] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: those can be added with apt-get/dpkg, not a huge problem really
[07:43] <SpacePoet> ardchoille: but i wont know which to add since there are so many
[07:43] <Majere> What controls the behavior of my middle mouse button in Ubuntu? While Terminal is in front, I can scroll a page behind it with the mouse wheel and Terminal will still stay up front, but if I try in another distro Terminal minimizes.
[07:43] <dev_> right them dowbn
[07:45] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: you can have dpkg save your installed apps to a file and then install those apps. see man dpkg and look at the --get-selections and --set-selections switches
[07:46] <SpacePoet> ardchoille: what is the benefit of just installing clean?
[07:46] <dev_> you start fresh
[07:47] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: that's what I thought you were going to do
[07:47] <SpacePoet> ardchoille: no i want to clone from wubi
[07:47] <ardchoille> yes, you start with a clean system on real partitions, much better than wubi
[07:47] <SpacePoet> ardchoille: so everything is the same
[07:48] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: you can run the following to save a list of installed apps:
[07:48] <ardchoille> dpkg --get-selections >> /path/file.txt
[07:49] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: then reinstall those apps on a new system with: dpkg --set-selections
[07:49] <dev_> ^
[07:50] <ardchoille> this way you don't have to memorize each package you install or maintain an install file
[07:50] <MonkeyDust> SpacePoet  what ardchoille says... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259524/
[07:50] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: thank you
[07:51] <MonkeyDust> ardchoille  I do that with each update, in a custom script
[07:51] <ardchoille> SpacePoet: MonkeyDust 's example means "cloning" a system is as easy as a couple of commands
[07:52] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: I should write a script like that, just in case
[07:52]  * ardchoille feels ubuntu one or dropbox are a must
[07:52] <dev_> are a must?
[07:52] <ardchoille> s/are/is/
[07:53] <ardchoille> yes, easy syncing files across multiple systems
[07:53] <dev_> i stick to a handy ssd i take with me
[07:53] <MonkeyDust> here's what I use (I don't expect you to trust it or me)  http://ubuntuone.com/5lKUr7HjXwkm4T8INBWeTA
[07:54] <ardchoille> dev_:  that's even better, really
[07:54] <dev_> yes, im not a big can of cloud services ect. I like to be in full controll :)
[07:55] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: nice, makes upgrading painless. Good example!
[07:55]  * ardchoille steals some of MonkeyDust 's script
[07:56] <RealOPtiii> ello
[07:56] <RealOPtiii> i need suggestions on how to enable a system account to access my media folder.
[07:56] <dev_> im living on about 2KB a minute
[07:57] <RealOPtiii> Im trying to use "Plex media server" its running underd the user "plex"
[07:57] <dev_> with liinux
[07:57] <Phiscribe> dev_ move your router
[07:57] <BYC_> hello
[07:57] <RealOPtiii> suggestions on chown?
[07:57] <dev_> i have 4 bars
[07:57] <dev_> out of 4
[07:57] <dev_> its my wifi chip / drivers
[07:57] <ardchoille> dev_: slap your provider
[07:58] <dev_> on windows i get normal speeds
[07:58] <ee_cc> hoi, I have a gripe with the Ubuntu UI... where can I whine about it?
[07:58] <dev_> so i am forced to use linux - work, windows - play
[07:59] <ardchoille> ee_cc: rather than whine about it why not ask how to fix the issue?
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> dev_  http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/stick_to_windows/hardcore_gamer/
[07:59] <dev_> ee_cc i believe you can email them, ubuntudoesnotcare@ubuntu.com
[07:59] <ee_cc> it's a bug in the UI... there's little I can do
[07:59] <ee_cc> when a window (say the therminal) is full screen
[08:00] <ardchoille> ee_cc: you can use a different DE or WM. Or install gnome-shell and use gnome classic as a fallback
[08:00] <ee_cc> and you press the button to get the - what is it called - the dash?
[08:01] <dev_> monkey what was that link about
[08:01] <dev_> ?
[08:01] <dev_> I already knew this :p
[08:01] <ee_cc> let me see
[08:02] <ardchoille> ee_cc: what does the full screen terminal do when you invoce the dash?
[08:02] <ardchoille> s/invoce/invoke/
[08:02] <dev_> come with a command prompt
[08:02] <dev_> sudu su
[08:03] <ardchoille> dev_: sudo -i is better
[08:03] <ee_cc> ah sorry... well the dash comes up (stealing focus) but the console stays on top, hiding the dash
[08:03] <dev_> :( i wish i could just use commands in irssi to
[08:03] <dev_> then it would be a all in one
[08:03] <ee_cc> and that... is not what I would expect
[08:03] <dev_> masterpeice
[08:03] <dev_> piecepiece
[08:03] <somsip> dev_: run irrsi in a screen instance with terminals so they are only a click away?
[08:04] <ardchoille> ee_cc: gnome shell doesn't do that, it acts as expected. yeah, that's a bug
[08:04] <dev_> sudu -1
[08:04] <ardchoille> -i
[08:04] <dev_> eh but i like irssi in full screen
[08:04] <somsip> sudo -i
[08:05] <KsM> it's "sudo"
[08:05] <dev_> anyone know why you cant use say cd ./Desktop/folder ? it comes out not found but if you use cd ./Desktop and then cd ./Folder it finds it?
[08:05] <dev_> am i missing something there
[08:06] <somsip> dev_: one has a capital
[08:06] <dev_> -_- that was a example
[08:06] <ardchoille> linux is case sensitive
[08:06] <somsip> dev_: could you use an accurate example?
[08:06] <dev_> No i know, im just saying
[08:06] <KsM> Then how about you copy/paste exactly what you're doing?
[08:06] <ardchoille> dev_: try cd Desktop/folder
[08:06] <ardchoille> no "./"
[08:06] <somsip> dev_: certainly omit the leading .
[08:06] <ifndefx> hi, I've just installed ubuntu 12.04. I have 4 devices on bluetooth that all worked perfectly prior to the upgrade. However, now I'm striggling to get them to work. 1) Apple Wireless Keyboard - this doesn't stay connected. I have to hidd --connect in order to just get it to work, similar issue with my Apple wireless mouse. Now, finally I have a wireless headset which is giving be Authentication Rejected, and cannot establish a connection.
[08:06] <ifndefx> I started with the default bluetooth manager and then I have moved on to the blueman... both similar results. Any pointers on how I can get keyboard to be stable where I dont have to run hidd--connect x at each login and get my headset to work ?
[08:07] <dev_> same doesnt work
[08:07] <dev_> Apple wireless keyboard :0
[08:07] <ardchoille> then your env is borked
[08:07] <KsM> dev_: what /exactly/ are you doing
[08:07] <ardchoille> ah
[08:07] <ifndefx> dev_: are you referring to my bluetooth questions ?
[08:07] <dev_> KsM i'm /not/ sure
[08:08] <dev_> yes ifndefx
[08:08] <ifndefx> bugger
[08:08] <dev_> No ifndefx
[08:08] <dev_> Nothing, May i ask though why you updated?
[08:10] <ifndefx> No particular reason, just thought of keeping the system updated. Wasn't expecting bluetooth to become unstable.
[08:10] <dev_> My power is going to shut off :( its storming. So long fellow strangers and ubunters
[08:10] <ardchoille> dev_: so you live in Seattle? lol
[08:10] <ifndefx> All my input peripherals are on blue tooth.
[08:11] <subb1> Hi all
[08:11] <ardchoille> hi subb1
[08:11] <subb1> Apart from ssh &autossh, I would like to know of applications which supports 'reverse tunnelling'  in a client/server model.  'stunnel' is of this model but does not support reverse tunnelling  i.e. from an external host on Internet to a host behind NAT.
[08:12] <Martell> Please help me :(  , been fixing this for weeks but no solution, i just wanna know if my windows 7 is still there or its been formatted with my ubuntu. [boot repair summary http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259534/ ] and [gpart screenshot http://i.imgur.com/5OWNd.png]
[08:16] <ardchoille> Martell: is that a netbook?
[08:16] <Martell> ardchoille, desktop intel i3 500gb HDD
[08:17] <Martell> actually its preinstalled with windows 7 64bit, tried to dualboot it with ubuntu, now im on trouble :(
[08:17] <DJJeff> I'm starting to notice unity is part of compiz
[08:17] <DJJeff> and compiz is starting to crash an awful lot
[08:17] <ardchoille> Martell: it looks like your Windows 7 is gone. However, it looks like your HDD has a partition that holds the Windows install software so it would be easy to restore
[08:17] <ardchoille> Martell: however, if you do a restore then Windows will wipe Ubuntu because Windows always wants to be the first OS
[08:17] <Martell> ardchoille, i dont care if my windows 7 is gone, how bout the files on it? :(
[08:18] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  you're free to not use unity/compiz
[08:18] <ardchoille> Martell: they appear to be gone as well, notice the unallocated space at the end of the part table
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> Martell:its a good moment to switch to ubuntu singleboot
[08:18] <ardchoille> Martell: lotuspsychje has an excellent point
[08:19] <Martell> so its gone T_T
[08:19] <DJJeff> would using an earlier version of compiz help? or using a config that disables unity
[08:19] <Martell> so how do i get that unnallocated space back, i want to use it, maybe i wanna install windows 7 on it back
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> DJJeff:did you try login into unity2d?
[08:20] <DJJeff> im on gnome-classic at the moment
[08:20] <ardchoille> DJJeff: Unity is its own desktop environment that uses compiz, they are separate entities
[08:21] <DJJeff> logging into ccsm (compiz manager) there is a "unity" profile
[08:21] <ifndefx> you might still be able to recover some one the files if it is just unallocated
[08:21] <ardchoille> Martell: if you installed Windows it would wipe your ubuntu isntall because Windows always wants to be the first partition. you could save your ubuntu files and reinstall Windows, then install ubuntu as a dual boot option
[08:22] <Martell> ardchoille, aight buddy, so how do i get that unnalocated space back
[08:23] <ardchoille> Martell: it looks like what you did was split the hard drive in half in order to install ubuntu but then installed ubuntu on the wrong partition - removing Windows 7
[08:23] <subb1> Martell: as a last resort, if you're comfortable with removing your hdd physically, you could then connect it to a box running win7 and see which all areas of the ntfs filesystem are able  to be read. You might get lucky, but chances are not good from the output of your gparted :(
[08:23] <Martell> yeah ardchoille  i think so, i thought i isntalled on the right partition :(
[08:23] <ardchoille> Martell: you can partition it and use it, but I would look into what ifndefx said first and possibly recover files
[08:24] <Martell> subb1, is it the same like having a live rescue cd win 7?
[08:24] <howlymowly> hi guys..   short question: qhats the name for the irc channel for ubuntu 12.10?
[08:24] <howlymowly> *whats
[08:24] <ardchoille> Martell: befor eyou do anything else, save your personal files to the cloud or a usb key, just to be safe
[08:24] <huglibb> hello
[08:24] <huglibb> :)
[08:25] <Cong> Is there a guide on what file system I should use for storage and how to set the permission so that all who have access to the computer have access to all the contents of the files on the file system?
[08:25] <Martell> ardchoille, what ifndefx?
 you might still be able to recover some one the files if it is just unallocated
[08:26] <Martell> oh its a person lol, didnt see him :)
[08:26] <ardchoille> Martell: even if you partition that unallocated space and attempt to install Windows on it, Windows will install itself to the first partition and that will remove ubuntu
[08:27] <Martell> ifndefx, no hard feeling buddy, but how to recover some of the files if it jsut unallocated?
[08:27] <ardchoille> Unlike Linux, Windows does what "it" wants, rather than what the user wants
[08:28] <kage_> hey
[08:28] <Martell> how bout moving my linux archive to that unnalocated partition first, and then boot with win 7 install cd so it used the "first partition"
[08:28] <kage_> anyone looking to chat
[08:28] <Martell> huh
[08:28] <ardchoille> Martell: Windows will repartition and use the entire hard drive
[08:29] <ardchoille> that's what I'm saying, you have little control over how Windows installs itself
[08:29] <subb1> Martell, No its not. a rescue cd can only help if the windows OS installation files are intact properly. But from your gparted, I don't think they are there. Yes, as ardchoille suggested, save your current files somewhere and then  try out stuff.
[08:31] <ardchoille> Martell: what I would do is save files to a usb or the could. Then boot into that reserved windows installer environment and install windows. then use the ubuntu live cd to repartition the hard drive into halves and install ubuntu in the second partition. Then restore saved files. that seems to be the safest route
[08:32] <ardchoille> Martell: but this time be sure where you are installing ubuntu so it doesn't over-write windows
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> Martell:it would be worth a try to install testdisk to rescue data
[08:32] <Matan> hello, i have problem with Rhythmbox 2.98 in u12.04.1 i don't have notifications in music menu (no currently played music with cover)
[08:32] <Matan> someone knows how to solve that problem?
[08:33] <Benkinooby> hi, i installed ubuntu 12.04 minimal + xdm +fluxbox ... but it seems that i still have  problems with permissions... is there a package i forgot?
[08:34] <Martell> lotuspsychje, i have tried everything from testdisk until EaseUS partition manager, theyre failed. guess i have to giveup and believe my windows 7 is gone
[08:34] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: can you elaborate on the permissions problem?
[08:35] <ardchoille> Martell: oh Windows is gone, there's no doubt about that
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> Martell:its possible sometimes recover data even after formats, ive been able with photorec
[08:35] <Martell> ardchoille, well i used to try install windows 7 32bit from bootable usb but it failed on installation, i guess this desktop only take Windows 64bit
[08:36] <Martell> lotuspsychje, unless you can help me guide me, its worth to try, im tired of trying for weeks
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Martell:did you try photorec inside testdisk package?
[08:37] <Martell> lotuspsychje, not yet. how to do it :(
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Martell
[08:37] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, for exmaple if i start vlc from terminal (under fluxbox) i get " PulseAudio server connection failure: Connection refused" also other programs seem to have problems with accessing functions/programs they need
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> Martell:just install this testdisk and after install sudo photorec from terminal
[08:38] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i think that, caused by my minimal install aproach, there are some packages missing that vital to the permission regulation
[08:38] <Martell> i have testdisk already, used it but still failed. and i have photorec guess its installed together with testdisk
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> Martell:yes
[08:40] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: if it was a permissions issue you would get a "permission denied" error
[08:40] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i don't see any difference between refused and denied... i'm not an english native
[08:41] <somsip> Benkinooby: is pulseaudio installed? It doesn't come as default on a minimal install
[08:41] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: "conection refused" could ba any number of things whereas "permission denied" is a direct permissions issue
[08:41] <somsip> Benkinooby: saying that, you shouldn't need it for VLC. I don't
[08:42] <michele__> hello. a question. how can i change the default audio device with c# or c++?
[08:42] <michele__> from ubunut
[08:42] <Benkinooby> somsip, ohhhhhh... when looking aht the vlc output on the terminal it tries ALSA enxt
[08:42] <Benkinooby> somsip, so i need ALSA or Pulse?
[08:42] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, oh, i was not aware of this difference...
[08:43] <somsip> Benkinooby: whatever. I don't use pulse and everything I need works. When I have been forced to install pulse by something else, something always breaks so I leave it off
[08:43] <ecco_> "non-matching-uid symlink following attempted in sticky world-writable directory by cups-pk-helper- (fsuid 0 != 1000)"... I can see this (dmesg) when I get a failure when trying to add a printer.
[08:43] <Benkinooby> somsip, so you're with alsa?
[08:43] <somsip> Benkinooby: But pulse must have good things
[08:43] <somsip> Benkinooby: yes
[08:44] <michele__> i need a programmer howto for ubuntu
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> michele__:try #programming
[08:45] <michele__> lotuspsychje, thank you
[08:45] <ecco_> So yeah... thanks for nothing jackasses
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !polite | ecco_
[08:46] <ecco_> Oh... I'm sorry about that... what I meant was "Thank you for nothing, gentlemen".
[08:46] <redwarriors25> what meaning of this utility only unmounts cifs file system
[08:46] <redwarriors25> what meaning of this utility only unmounts cifs file system
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> ecco_:better be happy there's a channel like this helping users out
[08:47] <XRS1> why dont you call the earth communications control office and file a complaint?
[08:47] <redwarriors25> how can i unmount from other ip address
[08:47] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: run this in a terminal: dpkg -s pulseaudio | grep Status
[08:47] <ecco_> lotuspsychje,  I didn't actually get any help... so check and mate buddy.
[08:47] <Benkinooby> somsip, from wikipedia about pulse:"In a typical installation scenario under Linux, the user configures ALSA to use a virtual device provided by PulseAudio. Thus, applications using ALSA will output sound to PulseAudio, which then uses ALSA itself to access the real sound card. " - lol, what?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !patience | ecco_
[08:48] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there a way to make the "skip"-option (when copying files into a place where part of them already exists) the default? I mean, so that I don't have to click the radio-button for skipping each time.
[08:48] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, it's not installed
[08:49] <akis> When I try to install DeVeDe, I get the following message:
[08:49] <akis> To install DeVeDe DVD/CD Viedo Creator, these items must be removed:Libav codec library,libavcodec52,Libav file format library
[08:49] <akis> libavformat52,Libav utility library, libavutil50,Libav video postprocessing library,libpostproc51,Libav video scaling library
[08:49] <akis> libswscale0,Two options: 1. Cancel 2. Install anyway What are these 5 Libav items? What applications are they used? Could this cause a conflict if I install anyway?
[08:49] <FloodBot1> akis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <gry> ecco_, what ubuntu os version?
[08:49] <Mrokii> Err... I mean the "apply to all"-button.
[08:49] <somsip> Benkinooby: yeah. That was me too. I'm a simple user. If things work, I leave it at that. Maybe others can help with pulse, but I can confirm pulse is not installed here and VLC, mp3, Skype all work fine
[08:49] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: that could be the reason for "connection refused"
[08:49] <gry> whoops
[08:50] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, somsip ok, i think i'll go with ALSA only and consider pulse if there are problems
[08:50] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: perhaps somsip can teach you how he set up vlc?
[08:51] <somsip> Benkinooby: If it helps - Audio Settings in VLC is set up as Default. Acutally, is VLC the only problem? Do you have sound at all?
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> akis:maybe try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, might have some codecs you need
[08:52] <Benkinooby> somsip, didn't test that properly... just tried a lucky shot with vlc... hoping it might work out of the box
[08:52] <Mrokii> To say it differently: How can I make the "apply to all"-Radiobutton (shown in the dialog that appears when you copy already existing files into a folder) permanently activated?
[08:52] <somsip> Benkinooby: then maybe do the asound and alsmixer setup and make sure the base sound is working first
[08:53] <rasha666> i have problem when i watch movies. video is running normal, but sound is running a little forward.? how can i fix this
[08:53] <ardchoille> Mrokii: I don't think you can, it's a radio button for a reason - that being so you don't clobber files
[08:53] <Benkinooby> somsip, ah, there it is again...  alsamixer only availabe with sudo :/
[08:53] <somsip> Benkinooby: not asound...not sure what I meant there. I meant speaker-test and these instructions are clear though not official https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Unmuting_the_channels
[08:54] <somsip> Benkinooby: you don't have sudo?
[08:54] <ardchoille> he should have sudo, even on minimal
[08:54] <Benkinooby> somsip, i have sudo... but shouldn't a normal use be able to access alsamixer?
[08:55] <somsip> Benkinooby: not to set it up and (from memory) alsactl store
[08:55] <chamo> hi
[08:55] <redwarriors25> how can i unmount from other ip address
[08:55] <redwarriors25> what meaning of this utility only unmounts cifs file system
[08:55] <ardchoille> hi chamo
[08:55] <redwarriors25> how can i unmount
[08:55] <rasha666> i have problem when i watch movies. video is running normal, but sound is running a little forward.? how can i fix this
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> redwarriors25  with umount, use fuser -m to force unmount
[08:56] <rasha666> i have problem when i watch movies. video is running normal, but sound is running a little forward.? how can i fix this
[08:56] <Benkinooby> somsip, ok, it works... sudo mplayer *some mp3 file*
[08:57] <ardchoille> I love this channel. You folks are awesome.. helping anyone who comes in with a problem. No wonder this is one of the best Linux communities
[08:57] <somsip> Benkinooby: are you sorted then?
[08:57] <redwarriors25> the whole comman
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ardchoille
[08:57] <redwarriors25> sudo -m unmount //192.168.1.125/prg on
[08:57] <Benkinooby> somsip, no... because starting mplayer as normal user wont work... mplayer just exits
[08:57] <Hatori> hi chamo
[08:57] <redwarriors25> i want to unmount from this //192.168.1.125/prg on
[08:58] <somsip> Benkinooby: So it only works if you run as sudo mplayer? Can you say your problem again
[08:58] <Benkinooby> somsip, sudo mplayer XXX.mp3 -> works, mplayer XXX.mp3 -> does not work
[08:59] <redwarriors25> i want to unmount from this //192.168.1.125/prg on
[08:59] <ardchoille> !patience | redwarriors25
[08:59] <Benkinooby> somsip, that is my problem... that many things will give me trouble as normal user while they run well under root... i think i just forgot a package for ubuntu that sorts out these permission trouble
[09:00] <Martell> hey ardchoille , photorec rocks, it recover my files
[09:00] <Hatori> redwarriors25, was that samba shares?
[09:00] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: open a terminal and run this command, it should return nothing: find . -user root
[09:00] <ardchoille> Martell: Awesome! Now back them up to the cloud or a usb key just to be safe
[09:00] <somsip> Benkinooby: does the output of groups confirm you have audio access?
[09:01] <akis> which program is recommendable to convert mp4 to dvd under ubuntu 12.04?
[09:01] <rudivs> I occasionally have a program running (has an arrow in launcher), but I can't activate it (by clicking on it in the launcher, or alt-tab). anyone know how to fix this?
[09:01] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, it finds something i mounted as sudo... but apart from that nothing
[09:01] <somsip> akis: ffmpeg if you don't want a gui
[09:01] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: ok
[09:01] <rudivs> (using unity in 12.04)
[09:01] <Benkinooby> somsip, output of groups: benedict adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[09:02] <somsip> Benkinooby: so you don't have audio access. Add yourself to audio group, logout and logina nd check again
[09:03] <rudivs> ah, nevermind... seems in this case at least it's because it's on a different desktop
[09:03] <akis> ffmpeg as far as i know can convert to other formats like mpeg/mpeg1/avi etc. can convert to dvd too? how? which is the command?
[09:03] <Martell> ardchoille, yes gotta back up em, since im still on 11.04, i want to upgrade to 12.04 , so im asking you how to move my ubuntu 11.04 installed softwares/files to that unnallocated partition (once i done backup) , so i can just download 12.04 iso and do fresh isntall
[09:04] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille ok, thank you two so far... i'll do the group stuff and report back in case of trouble (they will come up sooner or later for sure :P)
[09:04] <somsip> akis: my apologies - I misread the question. devede does it and I'm sure there are others
[09:04] <somsip> Benkinooby: kk
[09:05] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille oohhh... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup says As a practical rule of thumb for Debian and Ubuntu systems, there should be no users in the audio group.
[09:05] <akis> i know devede can do it but it asks me to remove some libs and i dont get the risk to proceed
[09:05] <somsip> Benkinooby: oh yes. You definitely need it
[09:05] <ardchoille> Martell: if you partition that unallocated space and move files there you will have only half of the HDD space to install 12.04, unless you use the entire HDD and that will defeat the purpose of moving files to that unallocated space
[09:06] <somsip> Benkinooby: maybe that's why alsa works for me <shrugs> Comes from mixing Arch linux knowledge with Ubuntu minimal install I guess
[09:06] <Benkinooby> somsip, do you have console kit daemon running?
[09:06] <Tomop> hi
[09:07] <somsip> Benkinooby: 1494 ?        00:00:00 console-kit-dae
[09:07] <Tomop> Any here?
[09:07] <somsip> Benkinooby: I can believe that the wiki entry applies to a stock install. Could be wrong though. Maybe I've done something hideous by adding myself to audio group
[09:07] <Benkinooby> somsip, read the last part of the link i send... seems console kit daemon is also related to permission stuff
[09:07] <Hatori> hi tomop
[09:08] <Hatori> !ask | tomop
[09:08] <ardchoille> Martell: my suggestion would be to save all files to an external target and then expand your main partition to take up the unallocated space, then use that partition on which to install 12.04. I say this because you need to be careful to not over-write that special partition that the Windows installer resides on
[09:08] <Benkinooby> somsip, hm... i have it running too...
[09:08] <somsip> Benkinooby: ok - take my advice with a pinch of salt then. I'm happy with my setup, but if this doesn't fix your problem then it might not be the right soution
[09:08] <Benkinooby> somsip, sure
[09:09] <ardchoille> Martell: I messed up my netbook by installing Ubuntu to the main drive, which over-wrote my Windows installer space.
[09:09] <somsip> Benkinooby: the implications on the wiki are not very scary for me
[09:09] <Benkinooby> somsip, agreed
[09:11] <Tomop> Hi friends!
[09:11] <ardchoille> hi Tomop
[09:11] <Tomop> I have question bout patches
[09:11] <Benkinooby> somsip, what display manager do you use?
[09:11] <Tomop> about patches
[09:11] <somsip> Benkinooby: awesome
[09:11] <Tomop> Where i can download it?
[09:11] <somsip> Benkinooby: so just a wm. No dm
[09:12] <ardchoille> somsip: I think Benkinooby is using fb
[09:12] <redwarriors25> yes samba shares
[09:12] <ardchoille> Tomop: a patch for what?
[09:12] <somsip> ardchoille: fb? Facebook?
[09:12] <Tomop> I installed Ubuntu on my vibrator and turned it on. And vabrator tore my ass. Where can I download a patch for my back hole?
[09:12] <ardchoille> fluxbox
[09:12] <ardchoille> lol facebook
[09:12] <somsip> ardchoille: ah - fluxbox...
[09:12] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille yes... im on fluxbox
[09:12] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: nice choice :)
[09:12] <somsip> Benkinooby: ardchoille well, you asked what I used :)
[09:13] <Benkinooby> somsip, i asked because the display manager is also permission related - see http://askubuntu.com/questions/185293/how-to-configure-a-minimal-ubuntu-installation
[09:13] <Hatori> tomop, you have been hacked :d
[09:13] <Tomop> yes :(
[09:13] <ardchoille> Tomop: Please take that elsewhere
[09:14] <Tomop> U want photos?
[09:14] <Tomop> i have photos
[09:14] <Hatori> tomop, you can implant your back hole with hole from the big pig :d
[09:14] <ardchoille> Tomop: This is an ubuntu support channel. Do you have a support question?
[09:14] <somsip> Benkinooby: tl;dr I just installed a minimal CD and 'apt-get install awesome' and the rest just worked. That was 10.04, and all upgrades have worked since. Probably better to reinstall but I need thinsg to work right now and they do
[09:15] <Tomop> yes i have
[09:15] <Tomop> where can download patchs?
[09:15] <ardchoille> Tomop: a patch for which app/package? There are several
[09:15] <Benkinooby> somsip, i have a 10.04 too that is my main system... everything works too but i think with pulse... but what i've read now i'd try to avoid pulse
[09:16] <Hatori> tomop, you don't need patch
[09:16] <leirbag> Hi, is it possible to force the "automount" without to unplug et replug a device ? for example, I have create a partition (cfdisk) and make a fs, I would like to automount it, any idea ?
[09:16] <somsip> Benkinooby: the problem is on 10.04? I *was* on 10.04 from the original install, but have done a full dist upgrade on every release so I'm on 12.04
[09:16] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille i think for now you've helped me enought... averything that follows now is "but i want it THIS way"-masochism :P
[09:17] <ThinkT510> !fstab | leirbag
[09:17] <Kvaks> Was there an update to adobe flash recently? I'm getting "flash is not allowed" on a lot of youtube videoes today!
[09:17] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: ah, been there :)
[09:17] <shivam> what is a unit ??? they say about ubuntu??
[09:17] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: use pulse unless you know what you're doing
[09:17] <somsip> Benkinooby: ok - it was turning into a general chat a bit. Best of luck
[09:17] <Benkinooby> somsip, i have two ubuntu installs.. 10.04 which i use as main system, and now i'm setting up 12.04 along side and when everything is nice i move to 12.04
[09:17] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: and I say that as someone who dislikes pulse and doesn't use it when possible
[09:17] <somsip> Benkinooby: k - makes sense. And gordonjcp may well know much more about pulse than me
[09:18] <leirbag> ubottu: I don't want to create a "permanent" mount point, just to force ubunto to re detect device and mount them, like if I plug it
[09:18] <leirbag> oh shit
[09:18] <leirbag> I speak to a bot now ...
[09:18] <Tomop> Can I install Ubuntu on my toilet? I want to talk to him when i committing the act of defecation.
[09:18] <leirbag> ThinkT510: I don't want to create a "permanent" mount point, just to force ubunto to re detect device and mount them, like if I plug it
[09:19] <ardchoille> Tomop: please take that elsewhere, this is an ubuntu support channel.
[09:19] <Benkinooby> gordonjcp, i usually set my selftime limits - in order to stay sane.... i'll fall back to pulse if i cant fix it within 3 hours :)
[09:19] <ThinkT510> leirbag: before you unplug anything it should be unmounted
[09:19] <Tomop> I like when look at me ...
[09:19] <ThinkT510> leirbag: it should automatically offer to mount anything you plugin
[09:19] <Benkinooby> gordonjcp,  *set myself time
[09:21] <leirbag> ThinkT510: I found it, udisks --mount /dev/sdXY :)
[09:22] <ThinkT510> !yay | leirbag
[09:22] <uBUXUBu> just had 396 updates
[09:22] <Hatori> tomop, no, you can't .... But you can place your face on toilet :d
[09:22] <ThinkT510> Hatori: stop with the offtopic comments, no need to feed the trolls
[09:23] <Hatori> thank you, he  makes me sick :d
[09:23] <Tomop> I am writing a program in python, it controls other devices via WIFi. And I seriously want to control my vibrator.
[09:24] <uBUXUBu> odd comment
[09:24] <Cong> lol
[09:24] <Cong> you'll want a nic card on that
[09:27] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: Thank you for that systemupdate file, taught me a few things and I've incorprated some of it into my own update script
[09:30] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: How did you fare?
[09:30] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille i added myslef to the audio group and music is no anymore
[09:31] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: no problem anymore?
[09:31] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille i think somsip what right - not adding a user to audio group might cont for standard setups (who also include pulse i think)
[09:31] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, for the sound - DONE ... i'l come across trouble within on time i think :P
[09:32] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: Good to hear
[09:32] <somsip> Benkinooby: so it's worked? Ok - but I agree, I've probably recommended something non-standard
[09:33] <Benkinooby> somsip, my system is non-standard too... and as you said... the only problem that might come form being in audio-group is that multiple users might conflict on sound access- but i'm the only one who's allowed to touch my laptop hrhrhrh
[09:34] <Viopl> Hello Friends!
[09:34] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: you shouldn't have any problem then
[09:34] <ardchoille> hi Viopl
[09:34] <somsip> Benkinooby: So, if it's something that breaks another time, you know how to correct it. But you'll have to find the official way to fix the sound problem then...
[09:35] <Benkinooby> somsip, sure
[09:36] <somsip> Benkinooby: cool.
[09:36] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: what are you trying to solve, anyway?
[09:36] <ikonia> *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.101.*
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> ardchoille  feel free to share your script, maybe I can learn one or two things
[09:37] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: mine is rather bare compared to yours, I'm a minimalist
[09:37] <Benkinooby> gordonjcp, nothing special... i just did a minimal install and now i'm checking all functions... sound, wifi, drivers, programs, merging old conf, test permissions and so on
[09:40] <somsip> Benkinooby: just a  thought - if you have other problems, are your groups completely correct? What does 'groups' show now?
[09:40] <Benkinooby> somsip, benedict adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[09:41] <somsip> Benkinooby: for reference mine (some user-defines in here) are - mark adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev fuse lpadmin sambashare admin media developers
[09:41] <somsip> Benkinooby: I suspect admin is useful for you, and probably video. Maybe more
[09:42] <Benkinooby> somsip, i think fuse too - isn't that something for mountign stuff in userspace?
[09:42] <somsip> Benkinooby: erm...could be. i know automount works ok for me
[09:44] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: the only thing mine has that yours deosn't is usinf an if statement to check for root privs and disallowing script execution if the user isn't root
[09:45] <Benkinooby> somsip, there is no automount package.... usbmount is there... do you have usbmount installed?
[09:45] <somsip> Benkinooby: I use pcmanfm as my filemanager and that has automount support built in
[09:48] <Benkinooby> somsip, ah, i see ... with pcmanfm there comes the whole gvfs-fuse stuff
[09:48] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: your system may not be "minimal" for long if you go down this road
[09:49] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i didn't install it... aptitude show
[09:49] <ardchoille> ah
[09:50] <senjin> Hello does anyone know how to enable non-fallback mode in gnome3 with a amd card and two screens? i have installed the latest amd drivers but get stuck with fallbackmode it does however work if i turn of one screen
[09:50] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, but i don't want to mount every pendrive manually either
[09:50] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: I was thinking "toys! wonderful.. shiny.. new toys!!!" lol
[09:50] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, so either i go for all that gvfs-fuse stuff or i see if usbmount will do
[09:50] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: good point
[09:51] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, can you give a recommendation on that?
[09:51] <somsip> Benkinooby: ah - does it? I learn something everyday
[09:52] <Benkinooby> somsip, that's how i understood it :P
[09:52] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: I'm afraid I can't, I've always installed from the desktop cd and accepted whatever was installed therein. I build my systems from known Linux-friendly parts so I rarely have problems
[09:52] <somsip> Benkinooby: and that's bloaty is it? I shall investigate...
[09:53] <Benkinooby> :D
[09:53] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i did it like you did too... for some time... but then i started to strip things down more and more
[09:53] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, so i thought for now it might be better to go min->more than much->less
[09:54] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: is there a reason you went with a minimal install? old hardware? limited hardware? curiosity ?
[09:54] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: Ah, yeah and you learn more that way too
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> ardchoille  show me how you do that, please (pastebin or so)
[09:54] <ardchoille> building your own systems is great and always yields a trouble-free system. But, you don't learn as much and end up being less help to others
[09:55] <somsip> Benkinooby: Ah. I thought I'd avoid gnome components completely. I guess this is why I'm in fuse group then
[09:55] <thepreacher> why do some fonts display as boxes in ubuntu
[09:55] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, lenovo ideapad s12 (the slower atom model) - i could go with unity, or xfce or something...
[09:55] <ThinkT510> thepreacher: maybe you need the right font installed to display the characters
[09:55] <Benkinooby> somsip, you'll end up with gnome stuff for sure.. sooner or later... they make good stuff too :D
[09:56] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1259682/
[09:56] <somsip> Benkinooby: looks like gvfs and gnome-keyring. Wellll, like I say. i'm stable and it's not breaking anything <shrugs>. For now, anyway
[09:57] <cyphase> umm, where did os.urandom go in the last python2.7 update?
[09:57] <thepreacher> ThinkT510: I have installed the right font I think. Its the conkysymbols font. Other similar fonts like webdings and windings all display fine
[09:57] <ThinkT510> thepreacher: in that case i have no idea
[09:58] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: the only drawback with that user check is that you need to keep in mind the content of the script so as to not execute something as root that isn't needed or dangerous
[09:58] <thepreacher> ThinkT510: thanks anyway
[09:58] <simplew> im running the quantzal live cd and when i click to install and i set the mount points, i click to continue and then i get that it cant use the swap partition, why is this happening???
[09:59] <somsip> simplew: 12.10 is not yet supported here. Try #ubuntu+1
[10:07] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille aptitude install pcmanfm -> +30 packages, afterwards aptitude purge pcman fm -> -9 packages.... no i uninstalled all 30 packages manually -.- ... strankge dependency managing
[10:07] <Benkinooby> no->now
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Benkinooby  use apt-get, rather than aptitude
[10:08] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: apt-get purge takes care of that when uninstalling via apt-get
[10:08] <ardchoille> aptitude may have an option for that, idk
[10:09] <dr_willis> best to avoid aptitude these days. on ubuntu
[10:09] <Benkinooby> MonkeyDust, ardchoille i thought aptitude would be smarter with dependencies than apt-get
[10:09] <Benkinooby> might be it's jsut an option i missed
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Benkinooby  there's a !aptitude factoid
[10:09] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | Benkinooby
[10:09] <ardchoille> dr_willis: sounds like good advice
[10:10] <dr_willis> yep. i never really used it to begin with. but i do recall a lot of argueing over which is better... these days - use apt-get
[10:10] <ardchoille> ikonia: Thank you for taking care of us :)
[10:10] <Cong> aptitude has horrible searching. if I wanted just the ri package, a lot of packages have ri in them.
[10:11] <ikonia> ha
[10:11] <jrib> Cong: aptitude has the best searching...
[10:11] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ok, i'll go with apt-get then
[10:11] <Cong> jrib, better than synaptic?
[10:12] <XRS1> apt-get is great. windows friend saw me install firefox through apt-get and i explained the repositories thing and he was blown away by how ingenous the system is
[10:12] <dr_willis> the whole apt system is getting so big in the # of packages its getting haed to discover tools that may do what you need from so many simialer tools
[10:12] <soman> Hi all. Why is flash in Ubuntu 12.04 works slower than in Windows? It gets me some problems.  Opera 12.01. Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[10:12] <dr_willis> soman:  bascially because adobe dosent care about linux
[10:12] <ThinkT510> soman: complain to adobe
[10:12] <XRS1> soman; what video drivers are you using?
[10:13] <soman> Is anywhere any replacement?
[10:13] <soman> XRS1: nVidia. Downloaded and installed from official website
[10:13] <XRS1> there are alternatives
[10:13] <ThinkT510> soman: gnash and lightsparks are alternatives (don't get your hopes up)
[10:13] <dr_willis> soman:  i use flash downloader and replacer extensions to watch flash videos in vlc
[10:14] <dr_willis> as for flash games... i dont play them
[10:14] <Benkinooby> !groups
[10:14] <XRS1> thats odd because i have an 11 year old laptop with 1st gen Radeon and it has no problems with flash
[10:14] <chronofusion1980> so i was rocking 2 instances of handbrake ripping two dvd's at the same time at around 1 hour total for both.  put in a 3rd dvd burner drive, now takes two hours for 3...wth?
[10:14] <Guest3851> !group | Benkinooby
[10:14] <XRS1> unless you are trying to watch high res 1080
[10:15] <dr_willis> chronofusion1980:  sata or ide?
[10:15] <Benkinooby> Guest3851, nope :(
[10:15] <Guest3851> guess not
[10:15] <soman> I will try gnash. Thanks guys
[10:15] <chronofusion1980> 3.2ghz 6 core amd cpu, 8 gig 1600mhz ram, 1k psu, (   all drives in system are sata II gen)
[10:15] <ardchoille> dr_willis: flash is going bye bye anyway
[10:15] <jrib> Cong: yes, better than synaptic :)  http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html
[10:16] <gry> Benkinooby, hi what groups are you trying to use? :)
[10:16] <ThinkT510> ardchoille: couldn't speed it up could you?
[10:16] <dr_willis> ardchoille:  it allready has left the building here...
[10:16] <chronofusion1980> is there a magic number limit of two drives ripping two dvd's at once?  or am i missing some tweak to make 3 drives rip at the speed i was doing.  I used the exact same settings in handbrake
[10:16] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: speed what up?
[10:16] <ThinkT510> ardchoille: the death of flash
[10:16] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: lol, I wish
[10:16] <codephobic> hi, I'm having some problems with network browsing on my lan. Everything used to work perfectly a week ago, but out of the blue I can no longer see my NAS device nor my Windows 7 computer in Network Browsing (in Ubuntu), I can still access the shares I set up (to use files served from the Windows and NAS devices) but I cannot configure folders/files to share from my Ubuntu
[10:17] <jrib> chronofusion1980: how many cores do you have?  Doesn't handbrake do some encoding while it rips?
[10:17] <gry> codemaniac, hi, is smbd running ?
[10:17] <chronofusion1980> already told you.  6 core 3.2ghz amd cpu...Phenom Ii x6 to be exact
[10:17] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:17] <Benkinooby> gry i use a minimal install and need some adaption in order to automount my pendrives... i don't know which group is responsible for that so i'm looking for descriptions of the ubuntu user groups
[10:17] <codephobic> gry, hi yes I have samba running
[10:17] <chronofusion1980> and yes.it does...but either way..when i was ripping on two dvd's at same time using two instances of handbrake...for the same length of time discs ( dbz season 3 discs that i own)  it shouldn't matter
[10:18] <gry> codephobic, i see, does restarting smbd help? what is nas in your question?
[10:18] <caydeesoft> hey
[10:18] <tking> hello guys, please is there any terminal client apart from Remmina? When i connect to my windows vps with reminna it kicks me out a lot, but from windows i dont get kicked. SO please any alternative for Remmina Remote Destop Clinet??
[10:18] <gry> caydeesoft, hi
[10:18] <Cong> jrib, what is used to search for fixed names or complete package name?
[10:19] <jrib> Cong: aptitude search '~nNAME'
[10:19] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, can you tell me thegroups of your "normal"  user please?
[10:19] <jrib> !vnc > tking
[10:19] <gry> Benkinooby, is a minimal install == server install or do you mean something else? do you use a gui?
[10:19] <jrib> tking: there are plenty of rdp clients in the repositories
[10:19] <codephobic> I've configured both Windows 7 and Ubuntu to join "MyNET" as their workgroup, rebooted both machines and the existing shared folders from Windows 7 are working fine but I still can't get network browsing to work
[10:19] <Cong> jrib, didn't work.
[10:19] <Azzle-Dazzle> how can I stop applications from opening when connecting usb drive ?
[10:19] <codephobic> gry, the NAS is a ReadyNAS duo - Netgear.
[10:19] <jrib> Cong: be more specific
[10:20] <gry> Benkinooby, so it is a cli only install ? ubuntu-server or no ?
[10:20] <Benkinooby> gry, minimal install for personal laptop + xdm + fluxbox .... i rather start from minimal and add up than going with a full install and then strip down
[10:20] <gry> aaah
[10:20] <Cong> jrib, just the letters "ri".
[10:20] <chronofusion1980> I was really hoping to take full advantage of a 3rd dvd burner to rip my entire collection faster..( besides the anime series's i have...at least 300 other movies to go)
[10:20] <codephobic> gry, the NAS folders and drives are also saved as fstab shares (like the Windows 7 ones) and they're perfectly fine too. It's just that neither NAS nor Windows 7 is showing up in "Browse Network"
[10:20] <jrib> chronofusion1980: aptitude search '~nri'   will return only packages with "ri" in their names.  What did you want it to do?
[10:20] <gry> my user has 'uid=1001(user) gid=1001(user) groups=1001(user),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),105(lpadmin),112(netdev),119(admin),122(sambashare),133(vboxusers),134(powerdev),139(scanner),1002(samba),1003(sbox)' but do mind this is not clean install and some of them may be redundant --- Benkinooby
[10:21] <chronofusion1980> and honestly only handbrake out of all the rippers i tried does the best job and without me having to use another ripping program just to decrypt it and handbrake to shrink it..handbrake does both all in one step
[10:21] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: it's been a while since I've messed with groups, what command should I use for your inquiry?
[10:21] <XRS1> handbrake is good stuff
[10:21] <chronofusion1980> and jrib i'm confused...why would i need to do a " aptitude search?
[10:21] <Benkinooby> gry, thank you... think i'll add my user  to admin and fuse too
[10:21] <jrib> Cong: aptitude search '~nri'   will return only packages with "ri" in their names.  What did you want it to do?
[10:21] <jrib> chronofusion1980: because your name starts with 'c' and it's early :) sorry.
[10:22] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, groups
[10:22] <chronofusion1980> lol  :P
[10:22] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: ardchoille adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[10:22] <chronofusion1980> late for me..i should be in bed..i work the late evening shift in 7 hours
[10:22] <chronofusion1980> so any ideas?
[10:22] <gry> codephobic, does your install use a gui ? anything useful in /var/log/samba/ ?
[10:22] <jrib> chronofusion1980: do try to keep your question to one line though because otherwise most people will have no context for what you are saying
[10:22] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, your on a standard install right?
[10:23] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, *you're
[10:23] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: yes, 12.04
[10:23] <ardchoille> installed from desktop cd
[10:23] <codephobic> gry, I'm running Unity on Ubuntu if that's what you mean by using a gui?
[10:23] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, automounting usb-drives works?
[10:23] <codephobic> I'll check the log now.
[10:23] <Cong> jrib, search from within the program.,and get only the packages that match ri completely.
[10:23] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: yes, and I love that
[10:23] <jrib> chronofusion1980: i have no idea why the behavior described is happening, but you might try seeing if it also happens with other programs (try some that just rip and don't encode; and also try some that are similar to handbrake), just to get some more info about what the problem might be
[10:23] <somsip> Benkinooby: you have looked at usbmount?
[10:24] <gry> codemaniac, yes :) could you check the logs dir i mentioned please?
[10:24] <Cong> jrib, aptitude has a curses mode.
[10:24] <chronofusion1980> okedoke.  i have more research to do after work today.. peaces
[10:24] <jrib> Cong: you can use regex in the search.  You would never want to search for exactly the package "ri" though because, well obviously there's only one package with the name exactly "ri".  But using regex: aptitude search '~n^ri$'.  I never cared for aptitude's curses interface
[10:25] <Benkinooby> somsip, yes... i installed it but it does not work ... thunar crashes my trying to access the pen drive :P
[10:25] <somsip> Benkinooby: does dmesg/syslog show that the drive is mounting ok?
[10:26] <Benkinooby> somsip, yes... it gets recognized... even without usbmount
[10:27] <Benkinooby> somsip, if i attach the pendirve i get a small window saying "not authrozed" - when usbmount is uninstalled
[10:27] <somsip> Benkinooby: Ah - I had this...now how did I fix it...
[10:28] <Cong> jrib, regexes function in curses mode too.
[10:28] <somsip> Benkinooby: sorry - if usbmount is installed, does it authorise you and mount it at one of the mountpoints?
[10:28] <jrib> Cong: k
[10:28] <Benkinooby> somsip, i suspect i have to be added to fuse or admin group or so... although i wonder how standardinstalls like the one of ardchoille does it without being in these groups
[10:28] <codephobic> gry, ok, I figured it out - my fault entirely. I'd installed Firestarter and then closed it, figuring that it was switched off... but it was blocking new local outbound/inbound connections for some reason.
[10:28] <gry> ok :)
[10:29] <codephobic> I need to read the help for firestarter and figure out how to properly configure it.
[10:29] <codephobic> thanks for your help gry :)
[10:29] <somsip> Benkinooby: I would imagine gnome looks after that
[10:29] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: I do know that I have a .gvfs folder in my home dir, perhaps gvfs/fuse is being used here?
[10:29] <Benkinooby> somsip, guess you're right
[10:29] <gry> it is ardchoille
[10:30] <somsip> Benkinooby: if you're using thunar, osn't there a thunar-volman. Does that do anything useful for you?
[10:30] <digitroid> Hello
[10:30] <gry> hi
[10:30] <sky_> hi
[10:30] <ardchoille> somsip Benkinooby yeah, gnome-session perhaps
[10:30] <somsip> Benkinooby: ardchoille and I guess you're wanting to avoid gvfs and dependencies...?
[10:30] <Benkinooby> somsip, it's already installed
[10:30] <Benkinooby> somsip, it's already installed - thunar-volman
[10:30] <ardchoille> somsip: no, just adding info I thought might help Benkinooby. My system is perfect here
[10:31] <gry> what is the problem again, Benkinooby?
[10:31] <somsip> ardchoille: I understand - just replying to both of you
[10:31] <simplew> in /etc/fstab of the isntalled quantzal i see this: overlayfs / overlayfs rw 0 0
[10:31] <simplew> why is that line in fstab for / ?
[10:31] <somsip> Benkinooby: ok - I have no expereince of thunar, just am aware of it. So I don't think I'm much help
[10:31] <ThinkT510> simplew: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 until release
[10:32] <caydeesoft> how do u remove the shutdown bug in ubuntu 12.04
[10:32] <gry> which one?
[10:32] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, gnome-session is not installed at my system - would get me +300 packages ... although i'm not an indealist... i want comfprt too :D
[10:32] <Benkinooby> comfort
[10:33] <Benkinooby> gry, get a nice and slim automount for normal user
[10:33] <Benkinooby> somsip, my problem sould not be filemanager related...
[10:33] <caydeesoft> when i try shutdown the system it brings out a black screen
[10:34] <somsip> Benkinooby: maybe it is back to permissions/groups again, but I am guessing I admit. IME setting up a file manager to automount does pull in dependencies and make changes that solve the issue. And I undertsand you're trying to minimise dependencies
[10:35] <Benkinooby> somsip, i'm kicking thunar and going for pcman - just to see what it does to my groups
[10:35] <somsip> caydeesoft: what video card do you have - nvidia?
[10:36] <gry> caydeesoft, do you see any text on the black screen? or is it entirely blank?
[10:36] <somsip> Benkinooby: I did see that 'not authorized' popup before and did something to fix it manually. Maybe that was adding myself to fuse group...
[10:37] <gry> caydeesoft, can you pastebin /etc/default/grub please?
[10:37] <sordina> Hey guys!
[10:37] <gry> hi
[10:37] <sordina> I've got an upstart script that's not appearing in initctl list.
[10:38] <sordina> Is there something I should check to figure out why this is not appearing?
[10:38] <sordina> (btw, edgy)
[10:38] <gry> edgy is 12.10 or ?
[10:38] <sordina> haha 6.10
[10:38] <Benkinooby> somsip, gry ardchoille i added myself to fuse group - brb
[10:39] <Cong> 12.10 is quantal
[10:39] <Cong> quetzal
[10:39] <gry> I'm afraid that's not supported any longer sordina (/topic)
[10:39] <sordina> I know that :P
[10:39] <sordina> That's why I'm asking in irc rather than going to coporate support.
[10:39] <sordina> Anyway, if know one knows I'll keep digging.
[10:40] <gry> that said folk may suggest you some solutions if you stick here for more than twenty minutes or so as it's a busy channel but things may have changed and not everybody here would be familiar with how things were back then
[10:40] <sordina> Thanks gry I'll stick around for a while.
[10:40] <ikonia> sordina: 6.10 didn't use upstart
[10:40] <ikonia> sordina: wasn't 6.10 still on sysv init
[10:41] <sordina> ikonia: Actually, that would be much more likely.
[10:41] <ikonia> upstart didn't come in until 9.04/9.10 somewhere around there
[10:41] <ThinkT510> sordina: edgy is long dead, unsupported
[10:42] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille gry added myself to fuse group, reinstalled thunar... usbstick gest recognize but i'm not authrozed
[10:42] <Benkinooby> authorized
[10:43] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: plugdev group?
[10:44] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i'm in that group already
[10:44] <ardchoille> ok
[10:44] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: your issue is mind-boggling
[10:45] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: install a full system then work backwards?
[10:45]  * ardchoille ducks
[10:45] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille thunar and pcmanfs say not authorized... i'm in fuse group and plugdev - maybe try admin group?
[10:45] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i might have to come back to that
[10:45] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, last resort
[10:45] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: adm group
[10:46] <ardchoille> yeah
[10:46] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i'm in that group
[10:46] <ardchoille> I'm not in admin group
[10:46] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, but somsip is
[10:46] <ardchoille> ah
[10:46] <ThinkT510> it used to be admin group but now its sudo group
[10:47] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: I was just thinking about that
[10:47] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, sudo group is standard
[10:47] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, i'm in it
[10:48] <Benkinooby> somsip, admin group does not exist
[10:48] <fidel> hi - i installed 12.04 now twice on an lenovo think centre 71e - install works flawless without  issues - but after rebooting i get: error 1962: no operating system found. press any key to repeat boot process. I am guessing that is related with some morem odern bios - or has anyone another idea?
[10:49] <gry> Benkinooby, is mounting a windows share what you're trying to do? how you trying to do that? what error message?
[10:50] <Benkinooby> gry, usbstick
[10:50] <somsip> Benkinooby: sorry - family time.I can't help for a while
[10:50] <Benkinooby> somsip, np - thank you for your effort, appreciate it
[10:52] <gry> Benkinooby, are you able to mount it manually?
[10:52] <Benkinooby> gry w/o sudo?
[10:52] <gry> nod
[10:53] <Benkinooby> gry, manual sudo mount works
[10:53] <gry> does it work without sudo?
[10:54] <Benkinooby> gry, without sudo i does not work
[10:54] <gry> Benkinooby, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB User PrivilegesIf your usb device doesn't appear on your desktop, you should check that your user has the correct privileges. Go to System->Administration->User and Groups, choose the user, click on "Properties", then go to the "User Privileges" tab. You should have the "Access external storage devices automatically" option checked.
[10:54] <gry> Does this help?
[10:55] <Benkinooby> gry i don't have all that gnome stuff on my system .... yet
[10:55] <gry> what DE are you using?
[10:55] <Benkinooby> gry fluxbox
[10:57] <gry> Benkinooby, ok, this is 'plugdev' user group
[11:00] <edgy> Hi, I just want to understand where the recovery kernel argument in grub.cfg coming from or documented?
[11:00] <gry> Benkinooby, does adding it for yourself help?
[11:01] <Benkinooby> gry, i'm already in the plugdev group... now i'm reading more frum stuff
[11:01] <Benkinooby> *forum
[11:01] <kannan> hi
[11:01] <ThinkT510> Benkinooby: have you logged out and in again since you changed your groups?
[11:02] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, yes
[11:02] <crazydip> has anyone installed LVM on an existing system? was it successful? any tips?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> !lvm | crazydip
[11:04] <gry> Benkinooby, and plugdev did not help to mount?
[11:04] <Benkinooby> gry when attaching the pendirve it gets recongized and i even see it in my file managers ... i am just not allowed to open it
[11:05] <gry> edgy, is it in 'info -f grub'?
[11:06] <kannan> can i get any driver software for my Samsung Scx printer to install in Ubuntu12.04
[11:06] <crazydip> ThinkT510: thanks for the info, but i'm talking about LVM on an existing system - not a fresh install - very little info via google (few wiki's, but little opinions)
[11:07] <sordina> n/m guys broken symlinks.
[11:07] <sordina> Ah the fun of working with years old systems.
[11:07] <sordina> Thanks for your help.
[11:07] <crazydip> ThinkT510: I know it's theoretically possible, just like it's possible to dist-upgrade debian -> ubuntu (which I have successfully done 5 years ago) - but it does not mean it's easy and you can just follow a wiki :)
[11:08] <ThinkT510> crazydip: unfortunately i've never used lvm so i can't help you
[11:08] <crazydip> ThinkT510: aye, thanks!
[11:09] <gry> sordina, no worries, we'll all be happy if you make your way to updating at a point -- i think your version has no updates at all
[11:09] <sordina> Yes. I'm pressuring people at my work to update to the latest LTS for the love of god.
[11:10] <sordina> Unfortunately it's difficult to get people out of the 'if it ain't broke' mindset if I keep fixing things when they break...
[11:11] <edgy> gry: not sure if you understand my question, nothing in info -f grub is related
[11:11] <gry> I'm sure they won't want to restore backups and patch kernel/whatever manually everywhere when it's exploited, sordina :) good luck there
[11:11] <gry> edgy, ok
[11:11] <edgy> gry: grub.cfg contains linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-16-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg00-lv_root ro recovery ... What's recovery here referes to
[11:12] <sordina> Ah thankfully it's not a public facing server...
[11:12] <crazydip> sordina: make a point that the longer they wait, the worse it will be to migrate - which also means more expensive and risky - and without upgrading they are risking damage & security (just a thought)
[11:12] <edgy> gry: is my question clearer now?
[11:12] <yossarianuk> hi - I have noticed on several Ubuntu 12.04 servers that /var/cache/apt was taking up over 40GB.
[11:12] <sordina> will do crazydip
[11:12] <gry> edgy, i see, thank you, i am reading
[11:12] <yossarianuk> on inspection I can see lots of files called
[11:12] <sordina> Cya guys
[11:12] <simplew> im running live cd and when i run apt-get install synaptic it says the package does not exist, how can this be?
[11:13] <Scall> Are all external boxes for hard disks (like this: http://nilox.com/scheda/nilox/DH0003ER-SB.htm) compatible with Ubuntu/Linux? Are there any compatibility issues? Thanks in advance.
[11:13] <edgy> yossarianuk: you need to run apt-get clean
[11:13] <yossarianuk> # /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.zGFIkA
[11:13] <fidel> simplew: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME
[11:13] <yossarianuk> # /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.random
[11:13] <fidel> will tell you the available version you might have & your distri can offer
[11:14] <simplew> fidel, what?
[11:14] <fidel> !info synaptic
[11:14] <yossarianuk> i.e - there are over 800 /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.random files each 36M
[11:14] <yossarianuk> apt-get clean doesn't get rid of them
[11:14] <yossarianuk> - what are they
[11:14] <simplew> can anyone explain me why is not possible to isntall synaptic when running live cd?
[11:14] <yossarianuk> - how to get rid of them?
[11:15] <fidel> simplew: 2 minutes ago you told us its not available ;)
[11:15] <fidel> simplew: is the availabilty your issue - or the fact that you cant install during your live-cd session?
[11:16] <simplew> fidel, you talk like i was a debian user and would have to know what you mean by those short words
[11:16] <yossarianuk> simplew: its possibloe that the app your looking for isn't in the  repos used by the default source.list
[11:16] <simplew> yossarianuk, so how can i do to have synaptic and apt-file installed?
[11:16] <fidel> simplew: well i am just pointing out that you make unclear statements ;)
[11:16] <crazydip> omg someone created a solarized theme for xchat - i love you internet!
[11:17] <fidel> trying to push it 1 step further - but ok - stopping then.
[11:17] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille gry VICTORY!!! summary: get gdm as display manager, kick xdm and you're set
[11:17] <yossarianuk> what I would do is go to http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:17] <ThinkT510> !yay | Benkinooby
[11:17] <yossarianuk> -replace sources.list with a full one - i.e main, restricted, universe, multiverse
[11:18] <yossarianuk> then apt-get update & apt-get install [package]
[11:18] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille gry i'm going to remove my user nowfrom all the groups i added it to - but i think i'll can get down to standard  ( ardchoille ) group settings ThinkT510
[11:18] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, somsip ardchoille gry thank you :)
[11:19] <yossarianuk> so does anyone know why I have literally hundreds /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.randomletters that is raping my disk spaxce
[11:19] <yossarianuk> space
[11:20] <yossarianuk> its happening on mutiple servers all ubuntu 12.04
[11:20] <yossarianuk> apt-get clean - doesn't help
[11:20] <ThinkT510> yossarianuk: looks like source packages
[11:20] <yossarianuk> presently 40GB  worth...
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> yossarianuk  apt-get autoremove, maybe
[11:21] <yossarianuk> ThinkT510 - so if I remove the deb-src files in sources.list that wil stop it?
[11:21] <ThinkT510> yossarianuk: i'd do what MonkeyDust suggests
[11:22] <yossarianuk>  apt-get autoremove doesn't remove them...
[11:22] <yossarianuk> i.e
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 35M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.YdJRXI
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 36M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.YgOeLt
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 35M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.yLSNj5
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 36M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.Z1BQs0
[11:22] <FloodBot1> yossarianuk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 36M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.ZCU29L
[11:22] <ThinkT510> yossarianuk: use a pastebin
[11:22] <gry> Benkinooby, that's odd.. not much we helped other than by listening carefully but congratulations :)
[11:23] <yossarianuk> (over 800 of the buggers)
[11:23] <yossarianuk> (sorry about the flood..)
[11:24] <Benkinooby> gry, it's surprising that a display manager can mess up permissions that bad... i think ubuntu is one of the more difficult disotr if you don't go the "standard" way - because the suddenly all those helpful services that make life nice turn out cause weired interferences if you don't fully understand the whole system
[11:25] <sandb____> hi folks... i'm trying to setup SSH to tunnel through one machine to another... my understanding is that i need to have passwordless ssh setup on the target machine (for the account of the middle man). I used ssh-keygen to generate a keypair on the middle machine and added the .pub to the authorized hosts on the target. SSH to the target gets disconnected though.
[11:25] <sandb____> (I can ssh using username/password but not username/keyfile)
[11:25] <sandb____> from Googling it looks possible it's some kind of open-ssl version/format issue
[11:26] <Cong> the system is simple, user (that's you), group (that's you), others (that's not you).
[11:27] <yossarianuk> Also I have loads of /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.random   i.e  36M     /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.YkSbjy  35M     /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.z1K9OY
[11:27] <yossarianuk> why is this happening - how to sto[p it ?
[11:27] <Cong> The users should get an option to choose the group name at installation.
[11:27] <yossarianuk> (it didn;t happen on older ubuntu server versions)
[11:28] <Cong> yossarianuk, it's cache, and you're free to delete it.
[11:30] <melvincv> hi all. I'd like to give a suggestion to the GNOME3 team. How to go about it?
[11:31] <Cong> gnome.org
[11:31] <melvincv> don't they have a contact email?
[11:32] <melvincv> I searched, but could not find the right contact
[11:32] <solofight> eople when i want to enable a module using a2enmod it says command not found ! ! am using ubuntu 12
[11:32] <solofight> people*
[11:32] <Cong> what's your email address? I'll tell 'em to contact you, okay.
[11:32] <melvincv> maybe a mailing list...
[11:34] <melvincv> Cong, got it?
[11:35] <solofight> how to get back all the default permissions for system files in my machine ?
[11:35] <solofight> say i have messes up everything
[11:35] <solofight> is there a reset button or something
[11:35] <gry> no
[11:35] <Cong> melvincv, interested in design? https://live.gnome.org/Design/Contribute
[11:36] <ThinkT510> solofight: you'd need to reinstall if you've really messed up permissions for the whole system
[11:36] <solofight> ThinkT510,  when i want to enable a module using a2enmod it says command not found ! ! am using ubuntu 12
[11:36] <melvincv> GNOME has more than enough design ;)
[11:36] <solofight> melvincv, @ me ?
[11:37] <yossarianuk> Cong: thanks - how can I prevent it building up (not seen it before - been using Ubuntu for years...)
[11:37] <melvincv> solofight, pm you?
[11:37] <solofight> melvincv, yes please
[11:37] <tryy3> how can i check how much memory (hard drive) space i got left?
[11:38] <k1l_> tryy3: "df -h"
[11:38] <brontosaurusrex> tryy3, df -h < for disk space
[11:38] <rp2> or df -H
[11:38] <tryy3> ok thans
[11:38] <tryy3> thanks*
[11:40] <tryy3> should i just look at the top one? /dev/loop0 .... ?
[11:40] <k1l_> tryy3: take a look at the last coloumn, that is the mount point
[11:40] <Cong> yossarianuk, seems like they are coming from apt. investigate that
[11:41] <notze> where can i see when openstack folsom will be in the ubuntu repository
[11:41] <tryy3> k1l_ where it says / at the end?
[11:41] <melvincv> My issue is that I need to give a suggestion to get rid of the window border and implement the close button on the top panel, to the right of the program name, like this:
[11:42] <melvincv> Activities    XChat IRC   (X)
[11:42] <k1l_> tryy3: can you put the output into a pasteservice?
[11:42] <sandb____> okay so the SSH problem was pasting the key rather than copying the keyfile... turns out invalid darn it
[11:42] <Cong> melvincv, type gconf-editor, drop down to metacity
[11:42] <melvincv> We  can save screen space...
[11:42] <ThinkT510> !controls | melvincv
[11:43] <tryy3> k1l_ http://pastebay.net/1149173
[11:43] <melvincv> GNOME 3!!! Not Unity...
[11:43] <skraito> hey america
[11:43] <skraito> if you want my research and you too UN
[11:43] <melvincv> GNOMEbuntu maybe...
[11:43] <skraito> fucking buy it from me
[11:43] <niko> ...
[11:43] <skraito> no stealing
[11:43] <skraito> fuck u all
[11:43] <FloodBot1> skraito: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <subb1> I happen to know a command line tool for checking b/w usage, forgot it. we can see the output by day,month, or week using  switches like  -d or -w  with the command.. any help guys?
[11:45] <k1l_> tryy3: you see the last coloumn saying "mounted on" at the top?   then you need to look at the row ending with "/"
[11:46] <Cong> melvincv, or type gconf-editor /apps/metacity/general => button layout = :close,minimize,maximize
[11:46] <knoch> is the right place to ask about compiling (in general)?
[11:46] <knoch> on ubuntu
[11:46] <Cong> c++?
[11:46] <knoch> C
[11:47] <Cong> install gcc
[11:47] <tryy3> k1l_ ah thought so, thanks
[11:47] <lampsBR> good morning. Is this the right place to ask about the gnome 3.x launcher? =D
[11:47] <melvincv> Cong, will try that. But the close button is already at the right. I need to get rid of the window border to save space :)
[11:48] <melvincv> lampsBR, I'm on that too
[11:48] <Cong> melvincv, you can't do that you'll loose the buttons.
[11:48] <knoch> Cong: actually I have a linking problem
[11:49] <lampsBR> Can I have 2 columns in that launcher, instead of 1? These buttons are to damn small. =]
[11:49] <melvincv> Cong, that's right. I've installed gnome-shell. That's why I want to ask the GNOME 3 team.
[11:49] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am having quite a hard time understanding the issues on my Acer Aspire One 722. Flash (and video generaly) is quite choppy and laggy when in fulscreen in both 12.04 32 and 64 bits, installing the fglrx driver for Radeon gives better results but an unstable system, so I'd like to know if: I should go with the free radeon driver, if not which version should I use for an AMD C60 Radeon 6290,  and if Flash 64 bit
[11:49] <BlackNarcissus> s is to blame or if it's better than it was once. Thanks a lot, any help would be appreciated.
[11:50] <Cong> knoch, there is a #c++ channel.
[11:50] <knoch> ok thank you !
[11:50] <melvincv> lampsBR, same issue here too... I second that.
[11:50] <Cong> knoch, I got kicked out of #c++. don't go there.
[11:51] <wangpeng> how can i flash my phone
[11:51] <knoch> Haha
[11:51] <wangpeng> in Ubuntu
[11:51] <lampsBR> =] grat, melvincv. I tried to install the dock extension, but it'd configuration isn't showing up in my dconf editor. I'm using gnome 3.6 (and ubuntu 12.10)
[11:51] <Cong> knoch, go to #overflow
[11:52] <ardchoille> lampsBR: 12.10 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:52] <ThinkT510> lampsBR: #ubuntu+1 until release
[11:52] <lampsBR> ardchoille, ThinkT510, I see, thanx.
[11:53] <knoch> Cong: there is a #c-unregistered channel
[11:53] <knoch> ##c-unregistered*
[11:53] <Cong> knoch, yes there is, population 1
[11:54] <ardchoille> knoch: that can get confusing. is the C Sharp channel = C#?
[11:54]  * ardchoille giggles
[11:55] <knoch> Cong: 83 for 1 op
[11:56] <tryy3> does anyone know any good/fun java parameters for a mc server?
[11:56] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[11:57] <Cong> knoch, indeed.
[11:57] <SixtyFold> Could someone tell me what folder would chromium be installed in by default please?
[11:57] <Cong> what package have the h264 decoder for totem?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:58] <tsimpson> SixtyFold: several, if you mean the binary /usr/bin
[11:58] <SixtyFold> tsimpson - im trying to do the --incognito thing, so that it always starts in incognito, but that doesnt work with just the link anymore i guess
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Cong, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:59] <TJ-> SixtyFold: To find a typical executable use "which <program-name>", to check where files in a package were installed to use "dpkg-query -L <package-name>"
[12:00] <JSX> hello everyone!
[12:00] <SixtyFold> TJ-  okay tj, ill try this, i dont know those commands very well, but ill get them a go, thanks
[12:00] <JSX> I've got a question about preeseed
[12:00] <tryy3> does anyone know any good/fun java parameters for a mc server?
[12:00] <SixtyFold> ask away JSX
[12:01] <ThinkT510> tryy3: that isn't a ubuntu support question
[12:01] <JSX> is it   "d-i  mirror/country   string  enter information manually"  OR   "d-i  mirror/country   string manual"  to use your own defined mirror, and is that different per major version?
[12:01] <melvincv> SixtyFold, why not install it and check installed files in Synaptic?
[12:01] <tryy3> ThinkT510 oh forgot that
[12:02] <TJ-> SixtyFold: "chromium-browser --incognito" gave me an incognito tab
[12:02] <SixtyFold> yah, if you type it in command line it works
[12:02] <SixtyFold> TJ- but not if you use the start menu
[12:02] <SixtyFold> or whatever you want to call it
[12:02] <SixtyFold> app menu
[12:03] <SixtyFold> if you try to add it to a link/shortcut, it just doesnt save it for some reason
[12:03] <tsimpson> JSX: #ubuntu-installer is a better place to ask about that
[12:03] <JSX> thanks i'll try that one!
[12:03] <wangpeng> DROID RAZR
[12:03] <TJ-> SixtyFold: Are you using 12.04 and Unity, or another desktop environment?
[12:03] <SixtyFold> yes and no
[12:03] <SixtyFold> 12.04 and LXDE
[12:05] <TJ-> SixtyFold: OK. Not got LXDE installed on this one. But program launchers should all be using XDG free-desktop properties files. Have you surrounded the program-name and parameters with double-quote marks?
[12:05] <SixtyFold> well, no, because it wasnt already in the shortcut that was default in here, but i can try that
[12:06] <TJ-> SixtyFold: usually, you'd create a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/  for the application
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> when I go into tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1) i'm getting this error all over my screen"ACPI: EC: Input buffer not empty, aborting" - same thing in tty2 etc --  i followed these instruction, but it's not better http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257067 -- hints & tips?
[12:07] <SixtyFold> ahh, well i used to just go in the app menu, right click on chromium, go to properties and append the --incognito to the end of it
[12:07] <TJ-> SixtyFold: And that isn't working ? I'd have thought it should, too!
[12:08] <SixtyFold> nope, it wont save it in the shortcut for some reason
[12:08] <SixtyFold> it used to, but no longer
[12:08] <SixtyFold> the shortcut just stubbornly goes back to default setting
[12:08] <sandb____> anyone here really good with sshd configuration, subversion, and tunnelling issues & what's your hourly rate?
[12:09] <TJ-> SixtyFold: Is it a default system-created shortcut? Or one you originally created that is now not working as expected?
[12:09] <SixtyFold> TJ- default created
[12:09] <TJ-> sandb____:  packet of peanuts :p
[12:09] <benedict_> hi, do i have to take special care about intel integrated graphic cards? any better drivers like for nvidia or ATI?
[12:10] <sandb____> TJ-: sold... unless they are more expensive than the last Mackinaw peach :)
[12:10] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: where are you appending this, in alacarte?
[12:10] <wangpeng> hello everyone
[12:10] <ThinkT510> benedict_: no, they should work without any configuration, the drivers are in the mainline kernel
[12:10] <sandb____> TJ-: i'm in need of some help with getting svn+ssh tunnelled via a middle man
[12:10] <TJ-> SixtyFold: OK. I'm wondering if the reason you can't edit it is, the default ones come from /usr/share/applications/ and its not creating a user-owned copy in ~/.local/share/applications/
[12:10] <sandb____> TJ-: can I pm you?
[12:10] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - to the end of the /usr/bin/chromium-browser %U in the shortcut command: part
[12:10] <benedict_> ThinkT510, thank you
[12:10] <TJ-> sandb____: We prefer to do support in-channel so everyone can learn and contribute
[12:11] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: are you're editing that file with sudo permissions?
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> sandb____  there's also ##networking
[12:11] <wangpeng> i want to flash my moto mobile but i don't know how to do it  in Ubuntu
[12:11] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - nope, didnt use to have to, but that's an idea too i suppose
[12:11] <sandb____> TJ-: okay, maybe i'll write it up in a gist and paste that
[12:11] <sandb____> TJ-: just wanted to avoid getting lost
[12:12] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: you could always install alacarte and use that to edit menu entries, works great
[12:12] <SixtyFold> the weird thing is if i go to /usr/bin/chromium-browser there is no chromium-browser even there, yet the shortcut always works
[12:12] <TJ-> sandb____: sandb____ It's not something I've played with (svn) but the docs imply "svn co svn+ssh://..." as the style. Is that what you're using?
[12:13] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - does alacarte have a GUI?
[12:13] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: yes, it is a gui menu editor
[12:13] <SixtyFold> my system directory tree understandings are rusty right now
[12:13] <SixtyFold> ahh okay
[12:13] <SixtyFold> thanks
[12:13] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, svn+ssh
[12:13] <sandb____> so the problem is that we can't seem to get me through the firewall to the machine with their svn repo on it
[12:13] <TJ-> sandb____: And can you SSH into the server manually?
[12:13] <sandb____> however they can get me to a machine from which it can be accessed
[12:13] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: alacarte will surprise you, you'll wonder how you got along without it :)
[12:14] <sandb____> TJ-: i've managed to even tunnel direct via the middle-man
[12:14] <sandb____> so the issue is getting svn to do the same
[12:14] <sandb____> TJ-: following the instructions here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5782872/svn-ssh-tunnel-via-3rd-machine
[12:15] <sandb____> TJ-: I setup the [tunnels] section in the .subversion/config file on my machine here
[12:15] <sandb____> then I create the tunnel, that bit works
[12:15] <sandb____> then I try and use subversion via the tunnelled protocol (svn+tssh://)
[12:15] <sandb____> and it fails, in the tunnelled SSH window I get "channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed"
[12:16] <sandb____> which I googled and appeared to be about an sshd param "PermitTunnels yes". I added that to the sshd config and restarted but, no dice
[12:16] <TJ-> sandb____: So are you able to create the tunnel to server1 ( "ssh server1 -L 9000:127.0.0.1:svnserver:22" ) ?
[12:16] <sandb____> yes
[12:17] <layke_> Anyone ever used synergy for sharing keyboard/mouse? Previously when I've used it, it came witha  GUI? I can't find the website for it now?
[12:18] <TJ-> sandb____: OK. there's instructions for doing things in 2 different ways on that answer; could get mixed up and confusing
[12:18] <skraito> hi is anyone want to join my team?
[12:18] <sandb____> TJ-: I followed the accepted answer
[12:19] <sandb____> TJ-: I've setup the [tunnels] section in my local .subversion/config
[12:19] <skraito> anyone wanna join my team ?
[12:19] <sandb____> and am using svn+tssh://localhost in the subversion command
[12:19] <ThinkT510> skraito: this is ubuntu support channel
[12:20] <niko> skraito: see my pm
[12:20] <skraito> well i found it nothing wrong niko to search for people
[12:20] <skraito> to be in your team
[12:20] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - thanks, that worked perfectly
[12:20] <skraito> why is that wrong ?
[12:20] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: you're welcome :)
[12:20] <woosim> hello how can I add a network printer in xubuntu 12.04? I already looked in the webinterface of cups, but there it say that there are no printers. I also restarted cups after I connected to the network through lan(not wlan). When I open thunar and go on network, then I can see the printer with a blank paper icon. Does that mean that it is not recognized as a printer? If so what can I do? The thunar menu doesn't give me any possibilities to interact
[12:20] <woosim>  with these things as if they were printers
[12:20] <fidel> skraito: this channel is limited to offering support for UBUNTU
[12:20] <fidel> anything else is wrong here ;)
[12:20] <TJ-> sandb____: doing some testing here
[12:21] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - it is a very helpful program, im running lubuntu and this will help a lot where lubuntu is lacking
[12:21] <SixtyFold> brb guys
[12:21] <sandb____> TJ-: thanks, appreciate this
[12:21] <niko> and you have been asked enough time to drop that, skraito
[12:21] <ThinkT510> skraito: this channel is just used to help people with ubuntu support issues, how is what you are doing related?
[12:21] <fidel> layke_: i remember using: synergy-foss.org
[12:21] <layke_> The website seems dead to me?
[12:21] <layke_> Won't load or anything.
[12:21] <layke_> Plus I can't find any mention of a GUI anywhere I look.
[12:21] <fidel> layke_: yep same impression here
[12:22] <layke_> But I specifically remember always using a GUI
[12:22] <fidel> layke_: some synergy projects merged in the last month/years
[12:22] <fidel> there is afaik the basic core - and then again different client uis around it
[12:22] <fidel> considered c hecking the synergy irc chan if there is one in freenode?
[12:23] <ThinkT510> woosim: under system settings there should be printer settings
[12:23] <layke_> No, wasn't aware there was one.
[12:24] <woosim> ThinkT510: It's xubuntu and in the system settings I only found this removable media menu and there I could only tell what command line to run if a printer is connected and nothing else. There is no seperate printing menu for configuration
[12:24] <TJ-> sandb____: So, with "tssh = ssh -p 1234" in "[tunnels]", you then in one terminal have/do "ssh -L 1234:svnserver:4567 server1" ... and in another terminal do "svn co svn+tssh://localhost/path/to/repo"  ?
[12:25] <ThinkT510> woosim: rightclick your desktop, settings > printers
[12:27] <TJ-> sandb____: "4567" is replaced with the SSHD listening port on svnserver
[12:27] <sandb____> TJ-: yep
[12:27] <skraito> aw fucking hard to find a team nvm just code myself than
[12:28] <sandb____> TJ-: that's it exactly
[12:28] <TJ-> sandb____: what error/symptoms are you experiencing?
[12:28] <woosim> thinkT510: oh sweet. Thanks I think I found it. Thats a bit hidden though.. why isn't it in the settings manager?
[12:28] <ThinkT510> woosim: not part of xfce, its gnome based
[12:28] <TJ-> sandb____: (having difficulty reproducing it here)
[12:28] <sandb____> TJ-: just pasting the results for you
[12:29] <woosim> ThinkT510: Ok. Thanks for your help
[12:30] <Simplew> i have followed the howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto to have ubunti QUANTZAL encrypted in LVM but when booting it does not aks for the passord to open the encrypted container, can anone tell me whats going on
[12:30] <ThinkT510> woosim: no worries :)
[12:30] <evilc_> hello. Any could give me some clues... I'm experimenting so slow server usage, in a non-root user, in a dedicated server. And also is so slow in charging the Graphical interface from any software. Could I do something to increase the cpu and memory resources to a non-root user ?  Anyone knows the reason because it's so slow in most of tasks? The server is using a Ubuntu 10.04 desktop, and has 2GB ram. (the cpu is a normal one, dont re
[12:30] <ThinkT510> Simplew: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 until release
[12:30] <sandb____> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/a3923202f096523e2ef3
[12:31] <sandb____> TJ-: as i mentioned I googled the error from SSH and came up with http://linuxindetails.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/channel-3-open-failed-administratively-prohibited-open-failed/
[12:31] <sandb____> but i (think) I've followed those instructions
[12:31] <sandb____> although it occurs to me now that I have followed them on the middle-man... maybe the problem is on the target?
[12:33] <kawaiidesu> What's new in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:33] <Pici> kawaiidesu : Quantal/12.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:33] <kawaiidesu> ohai, thanks pici
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> kawaiidesu  ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <evilc_> The root user is working fine, with this 2GB ram and the cpu, and at time of using the non-root user interface the server load is very low. The problem is not accorded to the level of server load/usage
[12:37] <TJ-> sandb____: According to "man 4 sshd_config" ... "PermitTunnel            Specifies whether tun(4) device forwarding is allowed.  The argument must be “yes”, “point-to-point” (layer 3), “ethernet” (layer 2), or “no”.  Specifying “yes” permits both “point-to-point” and “ethernet”.  The default is  “no”.  "
[12:37] <sandb____> TJ-: so, on the middle-man, i've set it to 'yes'
[12:37] <TJ-> sandb____: So, on your proxy-server you'd need to edit "/etc/ssh/sshd_config", "PermitTunnel    yes" and restart the sshd ?
[12:38] <sandb____> TJ-: if proxy means the middle man, then yes... that's what i did
[12:38] <TJ-> sandb____:  checking on one of my servers
[12:41] <sandb____> TJ-: it did occur to me to wonder if the error is that I don't have PermitTunnel on the target machine (rather than the middle-man)?
[12:41] <tryy3> quick general question about ubuntu (sorta), does it work to sort of restart the computer with out restarting it, like only restart the part that handles screens? i connected a new screen to the computer and it doesn't wanna connect fully!
[12:41] <evilc_> Instead of focus it in the non-root user cpu & ram sources. Probably could be managed from the root account but using graphical privileges for the non-root user who is managing the applications. Otherwise, although this user has tty privileges is by his user terminal in the root accound is not able to open a GUI
[12:41] <ovrflw0x> after installing wifi driver bcm43222 on ubuntu (dual boot with Windows 7) my wifi hard/soft switch has messed up, when on windows 7 - i have to manually turn on wifi and once turned on, after suspend it doen't turn on by itself again  i have to manually turn it on. so default state of wifi switch is off it seems, how to fix this?
[12:41] <nwillems> Hey there. I'm running a jenkins server on ubuntu, and have manually installed a newer version. During a recent power failure the jenkins install got "reverted", aka my symbolic link was removed and overwritten by the original jenkins version. Can anyone explain why? And if possible how I can stop this from happening if a new power failure occur?
[12:42] <dr_willis> tryy3:  you can restart the x server. 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[12:42] <sobrediggler> erm ... so i have a question ... why isn't the download page https? And the images properly signed?
[12:42] <nwillems> Hey there. I'm running a jenkins server on ubuntu, and have manually installed a newer version. During a recent power failure the jenkins install got "reverted", aka my symbolic link was removed and overwritten by the original jenkins version. Can anyone explain why?
[12:42] <tryy3> dr_willis will it only restart the screens?
[12:42] <tryy3> (or similiar)
[12:43] <nwillems> Oh sorry for the double - my IRC client isn't kind enough to show my nick viewable.
[12:43] <ThinkT510> tryy3: it restarts the gui
[12:43] <dr_willis> tryy3:  it restarts the x server.. not sure what you mean by 'screens' the x server is the foundation of the gui.
[12:43] <TJ-> sandb____: Well I've just done "ssh -L 1234:10.254.251.1:22 10.254.252.18" and got logged into 10.254.251.1. In my case, 252.18 is a Linode at the other end of a VPN, and 251.1 is a local server, so it went local-ME > -remote-Linode > local-Server
[12:43] <tryy3> ah ok, with screens i mean monitors
[12:43] <sandb____> TJ-: yes I have been able to do a tunnelled SSH via the middle-man to the remote
[12:44] <dr_willis> often when tweaking x settings like those i have to restart x fully for them to take affect
[12:44] <dr_willis> ive also had pc's only use dual monitors IF BOTH were plugged in when it booted up.
[12:45] <sandb____> TJ-: using ssh -t -A hostalias ssh username@targethost.client.com I can SSH through the middle-man to the remote
[12:45] <sandb____> that works fine
[12:45] <tyler_d> dr_willis: oh I've had those from back in the day
[12:45] <dr_willis> i think it turned off the unused video cardf..
[12:45] <dr_willis> tyler_d:  yep. been a few years back
[12:45] <tyler_d> dr_willis: the orig dual-head cards were the bomb
[12:45] <tyler_d> lol
[12:46] <ovrflw0x> after installing wifi driver bcm43222 on ubuntu (dual boot with Windows 7) my wifi hard/soft switch has messed up, when on windows 7 - i have to manually turn on wifi and once turned on, after suspend it doen't turn on by itself again  i have to manually turn it on. so default state of wifi switch is off it seems, how to fix this? how to use rfkill to fix this?
[12:46] <TJ-> sandb____: I can't make it fail :(
[12:47] <dr_willis> ive also had laptops where i had to play with their fn keys to get a 2nd monitor working
[12:47] <sandb____> TJ-: so the sshd_config PermitTunnel is definitely needed on the proxy/middle-man? And not on the target host?
[12:47] <TJ-> sandb____: With the "ssh -L 1234:10.254.251.1:22 10.254.252.18" running (checked with "sudo netstat -lpta | grep 1234") in another terminal I do "ssh -p 1234 localhost" and am instantly at the terminal of the 'svn' server
[12:48] <TJ-> sandb____: I've not used that at all - but then again I didn't get any failures that would push me to add that, as you did
[12:49] <TJ-> sandb____: It's worth adding the debugging to ssh with the "-vvvv" option - it may give you some clues!
[12:49] <TJ-> sandb____: That'd be in the svn config tunnel entry
[12:49] <sandb____> TJ-: right, will try that thanks
[12:50] <TJ-> sandb____: Any differences in usernames on the svnserver and/or proxy, compared to your local machine?
[12:50] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, different on all 3
[12:51] <sandb____> TJ-: okay so https://gist.github.com/7e1c8c08455eca43746f
[12:51] <TJ-> sandb____: So you'll need to add those into the mix, then.
[12:51] <mmm4m5m> Hi. A little help please. In ubuntu 12.04.1, default root password is "!". When I try to "ssh" - key authentication, then the error is "account locked". Question - Is it good to change password to "*" ?
[12:51] <tyler_d> sorry to inject here but if you dont' mind sandb____ what are you doing
[12:51] <sandb____> TJ-: sorry, here's the whole thing: https://gist.github.com/04c1773bbaa2bb1e4418
[12:52] <TJ-> sandb____: On the proxy, did you previously do "sssh-keygen" for user "matt" ?
[12:52] <sandb____> tyler_d: okay so I am trying to get access to a subversion repository on a machine that the client cannot give me direct access to
[12:52] <sobrediggler> default root passwd is not !
[12:52] <TJ-> sandb____: typo!  "ssh-keygen"
[12:52] <compdoc> mmm4m5m, I think that ! is used to disable user accounts.
[12:52] <tyler_d> sandb____: port forwarding
[12:52] <sandb____> TJ-: the user on the proxy is 'mmower' but yes i've done that and setup (and tested) passwordless ssh from the proxy to the target host
[12:52] <Myrtti> mmm4m5m: there is no root account password
[12:52] <compdoc> mmm4m5m, the root account is not enabled by default
[12:52] <dr_willis> i think he means in /etc/padsswd
[12:52] <tyler_d> !root
[12:52] <sandb____> tyler_d: cannot parse your answer :)
[12:53] <sandb____> well in fact i parse it fine
[12:53] <TJ-> sandb____: so is "/Volumes/Corrino/matt" on the svnserver?
[12:53] <sandb____> but, without some more context, i cannot understand what you are trying to convey... we've been using port forwarding
[12:53] <dtcrshr> for some reason my touchpad mouse stopped working. the usb or via synergy works fine. I have dual boot on this note, under windows the touch works fine, also the fisical button to turn on/off the touchpad.. how do i fix this?
[12:53] <tyler_d> sandb____: you are trying to forward a local port for svn to yourself and have it connect through ssh to the actual svn server yes?
[12:53] <mmm4m5m> sobrediggler: as I see, it is "!" in /etc/shadow = disabled account... compdoc: yes, but I can't find info in google.. When I change it to "*" (like user daemon for example), then ssh works - I can ssh as root user (key authentication)
[12:53] <sandb____> TJ-: no you're looking at the output from my local Mac when I am trying to use svn
[12:53] <sandb____> tyler_d: in a nutshell
[12:53] <sobrediggler> dude ! just disables any login
[12:54] <TJ-> sandb____: ahhhh!
[12:54] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good, thanks for the update and let me know if I can help at all
[12:54] <sobrediggler> if you check out the source code for usermod you'll find that out
[12:54] <sandb____> tyler_d: i've been able to tunnel through the proxy to get a remote ssh session
[12:54] <sobrediggler> yeah ... the usermod -p ! blahblahb
[12:54] <sandb____> tyler_d: but trying to use svn+ssh to tunnel through the proxy is breaking
[12:54] <mmm4m5m> sobrediggler: so, is it bad to change it to "*" - I do not want to enable root account... I need it only for ssh
[12:55] <tyler_d> sandb____: you don't need to proxy it if you have ssh access to the local system and can do port forwarding; or am I missing something?
[12:55] <TJ-> tyler_d: do join in! the error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when doing "svn co svn+tssh://localhost/usr/local/svn/repos/fig/trunk"
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> hi
[12:55] <WeThePeople> what is a good way to find files
[12:55] <johangod> hi
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> I have this error in networking
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> siXy: I have this error in networking! Shutting down interface p1p2
[12:55] <dr_willis> dont ssh in as root directltly mmm4m5m
[12:55] <sandb____> tyler_d: what do you mean "ssh access to the local system" ?
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> I have this error in networking! Shutting down interface p1p2
[12:56] <mmm4m5m> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[12:56] <sobrediggler> yeah just ssh-keygen and dump the keys in the authorizedhost
[12:56] <ovrflw0x> after installing wifi driver bcm43222 on ubuntu (dual boot with Windows 7) my wifi hard/soft switch has messed up, when on windows 7 - i have to manually turn on wifi and once turned on, after suspend it doen't turn on by itself again  i have to manually turn it on. so default state of wifi switch is off it seems, how to fix this? how to use rfkill to fix this?
[12:56] <nwillems> WeThePeople: locate or mlocate, they are my usual choice
[12:56] <sandb____> tyler_d: TJ-: just to make it clear here's the setup https://gist.github.com/543e255e051b8a865ba1
[12:57] <WeThePeople> nwillems, is mlocate with a gui
[12:57] <sandb____> i can reach the Proxy but not the Remote
[12:57] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good, I will take a boo
[12:57] <sandb____> as a test i can ssh to the remote, via the proxy
[12:57] <tyler_d> sandb____: what is the second line?
[12:57] <sandb____> tyler_d: labels for the machines on the first line :)
[12:58] <sandb____> the remote is some Linux, not sure which
[12:58] <sandb____> could also be Ubuntu
[12:58] <sandb____> uname -a doesn't speicy
[12:58] <sandb____> specify
[12:58] <cherva> if I copy a maildir and paste it in another account I will have the same mails on the 2 accounts yes ?
[12:58] <dr_willis> lsb_release -a   perhaps sandb____
[12:59] <sandb____> dr_willis: a ha, thanks
[12:59] <nyuszika7h> hi :)
[12:59] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good. the syntax and formatting should be: ssh <<me>>@Proxy -L <<somerandomport>>:someothermachine:<<thesvnportthere>>
[12:59] <nyuszika7h> has anyone else noticed that it's 12.10.04 today? ;)
[12:59] <redwarriors25> how can i retrieve files in empty trash
[12:59] <nyuszika7h> * 10.04 *
[12:59] <gry> nyuszika7h, what does this have to do with ubuntu support?
[12:59] <tyler_d> sandb____: the connection string on your local should be localhost:<<samerandomportfromabove>>
[12:59] <lampsBR> hahahah great nyuszika7h
[13:00] <nyuszika7h> sorry gry, a little off-topic indeed
[13:00] <nyuszika7h> redwarriors25, I don't get that one. why would you want to retrieve files from a trash that's empty?
[13:00] <lampsBR> nyuszika7h, it's 12.10, 12.04 and 10.04 in the same day
[13:00] <nyuszika7h> lampsBR, I see :P
[13:00] <sandb____> tyler_d: yes that's exactly what i am using
[13:00] <gry> nyuszika7h, deleted files from the system accidentally, needs hardware recovery
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[13:01] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good, so what is the error you are seeing when you try the port forward?
[13:01] <sandb____> okay let me update this gist with everything
[13:01] <gry> nyuszika7h, some software does undelete.. redwarriors25 try searching 'undelete ext4'
[13:01] <tyler_d> sandb____: alright
[13:01] <nyuszika7h> oh
[13:02] <nwillems> WeThePeople: I dont think so. doesn't nautilus have search capabilities?
[13:02] <TJ-> tyler_d: the error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when doing "svn co svn+tssh://localhost/usr/local/svn/repos/fig/trunk"
[13:03] <tyler_d> TJ-: sandb____ hte problem there is that you haven't specified a port other than "localhost"... you need to tell it what port to try on localhost to hit the tunnel
[13:03] <sandb____> tyler_d: TJ-: https://gist.github.com/543e255e051b8a865ba1 <- updated with all info
[13:03] <sandb____> tyler_d: it's def hitting the tunnel because the tunnel session on the proxy is reporting an error
[13:03] <sandb____> but ^^^^ gist should make it clear
[13:04] <TJ-> tyler_d: That's in the svn config file, defined as "tssh = ssh -p 1234"
[13:04] <tyler_d> ahh
[13:04] <sandb____> tyler_d: the "channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed" is printed when I try and using the svn command
[13:05] <tyler_d> sandb____: I would say 1 those ports are 2 small, try upping them to 2000+ and second are you able to ssh to this server and then open the tunnel after?
[13:06] <tyler_d> as well you need to add yourself to the known hosts
[13:06] <sandb____> tyler_d: okay will try higher port numbers
[13:08] <sandb____> tyler_d: i am able to make an ssh connection from the local machine to the remote via the proxy
[13:08] <redwarrios25> elo
[13:08] <tyler_d> sandb____: did you give http://tomorrowisfriday.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/tunneling-subversion-for-the-svnssh-protocol/ a read.
[13:09] <TJ-> sandb____: "channel 3: open failed" refers to "svnserver:4567" - are you running an SSH daemon on port 4567 of svnserver?
[13:09] <tyler_d> sandb____: I have minimal experience with svn.. enough to break a few repos and such. The majority of my tunneling comes into play with http apache etc.
[13:11] <tryy3> how do i install ssh + ftp on ubuntu?
[13:11] <tyler_d> tryy3: `sudo apt-get install openssh-server`
[13:12] <gry> tryy3, use software center or apt-get.. don't recommend ftp, sftp is better, but it's probably there as well
[13:12] <ThinkT510> !ssh | tryy3
[13:13] <tyrok1> Has anyone had success getting a Verizon Pantech UML290 4G USB device working with Precise?  I've gotten it working with an older version of Ubuntu but for some reason the new Network Manager doesn't seem to be able to bring this one up.
[13:14] <tryy3> ThinkT510 i already know what ssh is i just needed to know how to install the server parts
[13:14] <tryy3> gry ye i know sftp is better but i like ftp more :D
[13:15] <blackshirt> !openssh | tryy3
[13:15] <blackshirt> !sshd | tryy3
[13:15] <tyler_d> fusermount
[13:16] <tryy3> blackshirt thanks
[13:16] <sosoman> hi
[13:16] <sosoman> انا عربي!
[13:16] <sosoman> من بعد ؟
[13:16] <TJ-> sandb____: on the Linode, check /var/log/auth.log
[13:17] <sosoman> sobrediggler
[13:17] <sosoman> اه
[13:17] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <sosoman> sobredigglersobredigglessobredigglersobredigglesobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglerrobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglerr
[13:18] <sosoman> hiiiiiii
[13:18] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <FloodBot1> sosoman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <sandb____> TJ-: will do
[13:20] <rupper> Hi
[13:20] <pdk> have installed 12.04. Changed interfaces file. all network cards disabled. ifconfig shows l0 only. Can any one help?
[13:20] <sandb____> TJ-: ah i think maybe you've given me something there
[13:20] <sandb____> TJ-: Oct  4 14:01:33 linode3 sshd[29835]: error: connect_to svnserver: unknown host (Name or service not known)
[13:21] <sandb____> so maybe i'm doing something wrong in how i'm setting up/using the tunnel
[13:21] <TJ-> sandb____: And one obvious but un-asked question so far. On the Linode, do you have "AllowTcpForwarding yes" in sshd_config ?
[13:22] <sandb____> TJ-: no
[13:22] <sandb____> seems not
[13:22] <TJ-> sandb____: well that makes sense! Linode server *must* be able to resolve 'svnserver' - I was assuming you were replacing 'svnserver' with a real public DNS host.domain.tld
[13:22] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, i'm looking to see where the heck that's coming from
[13:23] <sandb____> because i'm not using 'svnserver' myself that I can see
[13:23] <blackshirt> pdk: ifconfig eth0 up
[13:23] <sandb____> TJ-: ackk... it's in the tunnel setup, i think a too literal C&P
[13:23] <TJ-> sandb____: from when you configure the Mac's local tunnel ("ssh -L 1234:svnserver:4567 server1" - 'svnserver' needs to be a public DNS name, or an IP address
[13:23] <liwiki> hi
[13:24] <sandb____> TJ-: yep, i think i just copied that line without thinking about it too hard :)
[13:24] <TJ-> sandb____: I assumed you were using 'svnserver' to avoid telling the real public DNS name
[13:24] <sandb____> TJ-: a reasonable assumption, no just an idiot
[13:24] <morethananoise> Hey guys, I've got problem, i can not log in to my tty virtual terminal via my login (morethananoise) it keeps saying login incorrect, but I'm sure i've written it with no mistakes... Any ideas?
[13:24] <redwarriors25> any software can retrieve deleted files in trash
[13:24] <TJ-> sandb____: never mind! one thing - you'll be an expert on SSH proxying from now on :p
[13:25] <sandb____> heh
[13:25] <ThinkT510> morethananoise: capslock?
[13:25] <mmaddeee> deleted files in trash in windows or ubuntu ?
[13:25] <sandb____> TJ-: okay so still not working but now there is a long-ass pause
[13:25] <sandb____> exact same error
[13:25] <mmaddeee> and morethananoise .. buddy . did u try resetting the password and then use that in the system ?
[13:25] <TJ-> sandb____: On the Linode, do you have "AllowTcpForwarding yes" in sshd_config ?
[13:25] <morethananoise> ThinkT510: No capslock, i can use any else user, but not mine..
[13:26] <sandb____> ah yes sorry i forgot, i was in the middle of doing that when we spotted the error in auth.log
[13:26] <sandb____> let me sort that out
[13:26] <TJ-> sandb____: no guarantee that is the solution if you're getting the same error!
[13:27] <sandb____> TJ-: okay added AllowTcpForwarding yes and restarted ssh
[13:27] <sandb____> TJ-: reopened tunnel
[13:27] <sandb____> same error only faster
[13:27] <sandb____> let me regist
[13:27] <ManDay> When I UEFI boot from the 12.04 USB Stick, the screen remains black
[13:27] <ManDay> Is there a problem?
[13:27] <TJ-> sandb____: OK ... the default is "AllowTcpForwarding yes" - so unless you had a specific "no" that won't change
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  it may be !nomodeset issue
[13:28] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | ManDay
[13:28] <TJ-> sandb____: check the logs on the Linode again
[13:28] <sandb____> TJ-: okay this is very odd, i'm still seeing svnserver in auth.log
[13:28] <sandb____> yet i am definitely using the remote host FQDN in the tunnel setup
[13:28] <TJ-> sandb____: Have you left a local ssh tunnel running on the Mac?
[13:28] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: ThinkT510 It's a i915 - is that likely?
[13:29] <ManDay> And if it is - shouldn't the live Image have a nomodeset boot entry by default
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ManDay: try it and see
[13:29] <sandb____> okay i've killed all the sessions i was using
[13:29] <sandb____> setting up afresh
[13:29] <ManDay> ThinkT510: I can't.
[13:29] <TJ-> sandb____: good plan :)
[13:30] <ThinkT510> ManDay: well, i've never used uefi so i wouldn't know what else to suggest
[13:30] <redwarriors25> any software can retrieve deleted files in trash
[13:30] <ManDay> ThinkT510: MonkeyDust It also happens when I choose "Check disk for defects"
[13:30] <ManDay> I don't think its a modeset issue, then
[13:30] <ManDay> Most be some UEFI problem
[13:30] <sandb____> i'm also using ports 12345 and 45678 instead of 1234/5678
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  try it to find out
[13:30] <ManDay> Can anyone try boot the live Image by UEFI
[13:30] <sandb____> it's taking ages
[13:30] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: Try what?
[13:30] <sandb____> hasn't failed yet but hasn't connected
[13:31] <sandb____> okay and now it's failed
[13:31] <sandb____> BUT it's failed connecting to the remote host
[13:31] <TJ-> sandb____: Do you have a separate session to the Linode with "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" running so you can see events as they occur?
[13:31] <sandb____> think i'm getting somewhere now
[13:31] <sandb____> TJ-: indeed I do :)
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > ManDay try this
[13:31] <redwarriors25> any software can retrieve deleted files in trash
[13:31] <redwarriors25> : [
[13:31] <redwarriors25> dsadsad
[13:31] <sandb____> ah heck, now i see what that 5678 was about
[13:32] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: I'm 80% positive there is no modeset in memcheck
[13:32] <Cove> Hello
[13:32] <ManDay> 90%, even
[13:32] <TJ-> sandb____: How about the username on 'svnserver' - if its not the same as your username on the Mac, you have to specify it
[13:32] <ThinkT510> ManDay: nomodeset is a boot parameter
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  for the remaining 10%, you may want to try it
[13:32] <sandb____> TJ-: okay i've fixed my pure-connection problem
[13:32] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: Fair enough...
[13:32] <TJ-> sandb____: '5678' must be the port on 'svnserver' that the sshd there is listening on
[13:32] <TJ-> sandb____: that'd usually be 22
[13:32] <sandb____> TJ-: yeah, again i blind C&P wihtout thinking
[13:33] <sandb____> once i changed it to 22 it worked
[13:33] <sandb____> now it's asking me for a password and I think for the wrong username
[13:33] <Cove> Would someone beable to give me a hand with something please?
[13:33] <TJ-> sandb____: LOL !! And I thought I was doing bad with a slow brain after staying up overnight hacking :p
[13:33] <fidel> !ask | Cove
[13:33] <TJ-> sandb____: I think, on your "svn co..." line to can suffix it with "--username xxxx"
[13:33] <sandb____> TJ-: it's terrible, as soon as I'm in a hurry it's like my brain stops working
[13:34] <TJ-> sandb____: I know the feeling! brb... nice man with parcels at my door
[13:34] <Cove> Im trying to install ubuntu onto my laptop IBM T42 however when I boot from cd I get a message saying something doesn't support 'pae' and im confused
[13:34] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: ThinkT510 Looking at the grub.cfg, I was wrong, it's not memcheck, sorry my bad
[13:34] <ManDay> I'll try it
[13:34] <sandb____> okay so my problem is now
[13:35] <redwarriors25> ei
[13:35] <BluesKaj> !pae | Cove
[13:35] <fidel> Cove: it usualy helps to actually read the entire error-message and then do either a) a search for that specific error or b) ask again with the full error message inhere
[13:35] <ManDay> ThinkT510: MonkeyDust The black begins right after grub, though
[13:36] <ManDay> Besides, pressing the poweroff button immediately brings down the machine
[13:36] <Cove> That pretty much is the entire error message. I need to find a kernal that supports pae however I only have 1gb ram so im confused?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> ManDay: try it or not, up to you
[13:36] <funky1> hi all, having some trouble with a ftp server i installed glftpd, get an error: error: cannot execute /glftpd/bin/glftpd: No such file or directory
[13:36] <funky1> but the file is at the given location
[13:36] <Anubis> is anyone know why the midnight-commander.org site is untrusted ?
[13:36] <funky1> what could be te issue, permission or something elsE?
[13:36] <nwillems> has anyone ever experience ubuntu overwriting a file after a power failure?
[13:36] <TJ-> sandb____: "svn co svn+tssh://user@localhost/..." ?
[13:37] <sandb____> TJ-: yep that's what i'm using but: https://gist.github.com/f905d846897f12ad859f
[13:37] <ManDay> ThinkT510: I tried, it still dies on boot
[13:37] <ManDay> It's not just the screen
[13:37] <fidel> Anubis: its https? -> cert
[13:38] <fidel> Anubis: or feel free to tell us who is calling it untrusted ;)
[13:38] <TJ-> sandb____: did you try, instead, the "--username XXX" too?
[13:38] <Anubis> fidel: yes
[13:38] <sandb____> TJ-: using --username didn't work (i.e. didn't set the username), using user@localhost did
[13:38] <sandb____> but, as you see, something odd has happened
[13:39] <TJ-> sandb____: if all else fails, edit the tunnel spec. in the svn config and add "-l dcartwright"
[13:39] <TJ-> sandb____: and check Linode's auth.log to be sure it isn't trying to authenticate on the Linode, rather than the svnserver
[13:39] <sandb____> i don't see an auth fail on the linode
[13:40] <TJ-> sandb____: that's good news.
[13:40] <sandb____> my understanding is that using svn+ssh you're effectively using unix logins
[13:40] <sandb____> so the password here, is the password for the account on the machine (as if you were using ssh to get a session)
[13:40] <crazydip> is there a good gtk (gnome) gui for git like bazaar explorer?
[13:40] <TJ-> sandb____: so, the last question. Can you, from the Linode, do "ssh -l dcartwright svnserver" ?
[13:40] <Anubis> fidel: i tested with opera and firefox and both browsers reports untrusted site. Opera: the server certificate chain is incomplete and the signer(s) are not registered.
[13:41] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, that works
[13:41] <sandb____> TJ-: also works passwordless
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Cove, you've obviously used the wrong image , try the 32 bit ubuntu image/iso
[13:41] <Anubis> i guess it's because it's a self signed certificate, isn't it ?
[13:42] <redwarriors25> HOW CAN RETREIVE FILES IN UBUNTU 10.04
[13:42] <redwarriors25> HOW CAN RETREIVE FILES IN UBUNTU 10.04
[13:42] <FloodBot1> redwarriors25: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <TJ-> sandb____: hmmm... is svnserver setup to only accept certificates? If so, it *needs* your public cert from the Mac. On the Linode, it's using the pub.cert. from the Linode
[13:42] <sandb____> TJ-: yet using svn command I am being prompted for a password &, then, it's not working and I'm getting these kill signals
[13:42] <sandb____> TJ-: hrmmm i don't know and I am 99.99999% nobody at the client will have the faintest clue
[13:43] <TJ-> sandb____: Well, you said that from the Linode you can ssh in passwordless. That implies you've done "ssh-copy-id svnserver"
[13:43] <ManDay> Does anyone why I can't boot Ubuntu with UEFI? After I select the entry in GRUB, the screen goes black and nothing happens
[13:44] <DJones> !nomodeset | Manday Not sure if this will help,
[13:44] <sandb____> TJ-: I copied the id_dsa.pub from my proxy account to the authorized_keys file for the dcartwright user on the remote
[13:44] <ManDay> DJones: No, already suggested - thanks though
[13:44] <DJones> No probs
[13:46] <ManDay> http://askubuntu.com/questions/193259/booting-the-livecd-usb-in-efi-mode-fails-on-tablet-xe700t1a <- anyone knows help
[13:46] <TJ-> sandb____: OK... so how about you copy from the Linode to the Mac, the user's .ssh/id_rsa and .ssh/id_rsa.pub to the Mac's .ssh/linode_rsa and .ssh/linode_rsa.pub and then in the svn configuration, add to the ssh command "-i $HOME/ssh/linode_rsa" - that uses a different ID file
[13:47] <silverarrow> how do you modprobe sound correctly?
[13:47] <silverarrow> or at all really
[13:47] <TJ-> sandb____: sorry, if you're using DSA, the id_dsa/id_dsa.pub
[13:47] <sandb____> TJ-: okay so i have just verified that i can checkout from the remote to the proxy, no password required
[13:47] <sandb____> TJ-: okay will try that
[13:47] <TJ-> sandb____: make sure you replace my 'rsa' with 'dsa' in all appropriate places :)
[13:47] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: modprobe loads/unloads kernel modules, you'll need to know the name of the module
[13:48] <silverarrow> however, when trash is deleted, you are worse off
[13:48] <sandb____> TJ-: do i add that -i to the tunnel?
[13:48] <sandb____> TJ-: I mean the [tunnel] config
[13:49] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: that is the problem
[13:50] <crazydip> best git gui?
[13:50] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: this is what is listed http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259965/
[13:50] <sandb____> puzzling, saying there's no such file
[13:50] <sandb____> but i have to go
[13:50] <sandb____> TJ-: many thanks for your help so far, i really do appreciate it
[13:50] <sandb____> i've got to head out but will be back in an hour or so... hope you might still be aroubnd :)
[13:50] <TJ-> sandb____: OK, good luck!
[13:50] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: and this is the guide I don`t understand at all https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Why_do_I_have_no_sound.3F
[13:51] <TJ-> sandb____: the "-i ...." to the tunnel spec, yes
[13:51] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: sorry, i don't do macs
[13:51] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: girls or boys then?
[13:52] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: no need for sarcasm, i meant i don't use them
[13:53] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: just a snarky remark
[13:53] <tryy3> how do i install a ftp server?
[13:54] <blackshirt> !vsftpd ! tryy3
[13:54] <blackshirt> !vsftpd | tryy3
[13:54] <ThinkT510> !info vsftpd | blackshirt
[13:54] <blackshirt> !info vsftpd | tryy3
[13:55] <tryy3> blackshirt so just install vsftpd?
[13:55] <blackshirt> !info proftpd | tryy3
[13:56] <blackshirt> !info ftpd | tryy3
[13:56] <blackshirt> tryy3: if you want them
[13:56] <tryy3> blackshirt ah o
[13:56] <crazydip> tryy3: better just follow the ubuntu ftp server guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[13:57] <fidel> hi - trying to get 12.04 installed on a lenovothink centre 71. install works without issues - but i am stuck on reboot after finishing up the core-install as the reboot process ends with: error 1962 - no perating system found. i assume that is the result of uefi right?
[13:57] <crazydip> tryy3: step-by-step directions... although in todays work you rarely need ftp due to ssh
[13:58] <crazydip> tryy3: work = world
[13:58] <tryy3> crazydipi i like ftp too, easier to edit files :D
[13:58] <fidel> any idea how to fix that - as reinstalling grub seems not to be the solution. Ubuntu is creating an efi-partition while setup if that helps
[14:00] <crazydip> fidel: you should really use google man
[14:00] <crazydip> !google
[14:00] <crazydip> fidel: very first google result is exactly your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146383/think-centre-71-ubuntu-12-error-1962-no-operating-system-found
[14:00] <bazhang> crazydip, dont recommend google here, ever. thanks.
[14:01] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I have an Acer Aspire One 722 with Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits, and an AMD C60 CPU with Radeon 6290. It works out of the box but flash and videos generally are really choppy and laggy when in fullscreen. What can I do ? Will installing the proprietary drivers from AMD solve this ? Thanks
[14:01] <fidel> crazydip: thanks - but please consider that i did that already ;)
[14:01] <crazydip> fidel: okie dokie! :)
[14:01] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:01] <fidel> crazydip: using grub boot repair didnt work. chrooting & rewriting grub didnt either
[14:02] <fidel> crazydip: so basically i am trying to find ppl with similar effect and maybe experiences with that lovely efi-crap
[14:02] <awestroke> BlackNarcissus: have you installed propretiary drivers via the ubuntu preferences?
[14:03] <crazydip> fidel: yeah i understand... sorry i don't know anything about efi :(
[14:03] <tryy3> how can i edit the vsftpd.conf ? it says i dont got permissions
[14:03] <awestroke> crazydip: what are you doing to boot?
[14:04] <blackshirt> !permission
[14:04] <blackshirt> !permission | tryy3
[14:04] <BlackNarcissus> awestroke: No I didn't because Jokey fails with an error telling me to check jockey.log, as it always did for me with 12.04 and Radeon drivers, on multiples laptops. I tried to install fglrx via apt, but it's not really helping.
[14:04] <crazydip> fidel: another result i got maybe you have not read/tried: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141879/error-1962-no-opertating-system-found-after-installing-12-04-lenevo-thinkcentre
[14:04] <fidel> awestroke: nothing - he agai nwas trying to help me without knowing the topic in detail
[14:04] <awestroke> oh, wrong person
[14:05] <awestroke> fidel: I got problems with my zenbook laptop when booting via UEFI instead of spamming escape on boot and selecting the USB device
[14:05] <fidel> crazydip: i've checked that post also before asking inhere - didnt help & changing to legacy-boot was no option in the lenovo bios
[14:05] <awestroke> if it helps
[14:05] <awestroke> BlackNarcissus: tail the log
[14:06] <crazydip> fidel: sorry to hear about your troubles though.... lenovo tends to make awesome hardware that's compatible with linux (i'm a thinkpad devotee)
[14:06] <vlt> Hello. A 12.04 machine is still running, responds to pings but I can't login via ssh and NOT on tty1-6 (where I enter the username and RETURN but it doesn't prompt for password). Any idea what's going on there?
[14:07] <BlackNarcissus> awestroke: I did that and followed several howtos to install fglrx from command line, it worked well but videos are still very laggy. I can't tail it now because this is a fresh install, I wanted to start again with something clean. But I don't know where to go.
[14:07] <TJ-> fidel: This appears to be an issue with a UEFI system, is that correct?
[14:08] <fidel> TJ-: yes that is my impression as well
[14:09] <fidel> TJ-: the 12.04 installer seems to create a 100mb uefi-partition on the drive
[14:09] <fidel> TJ-: as i dont see an option to jump from uefi to legacy boot in bios & grub-repair didndt work either i am somehow stuck
[14:09] <morethananoise> Is there any command for seeing other computers connected to LAN?
[14:10] <fidel> morethananoise: see in what application?
[14:10] <tryy3> how can i shutdown gnome temporary and then start it up later?
[14:10] <fidel> morethananoise: and seeing what? just the host - snetwork shares of those host or what are you talking about in detail?
[14:10] <morethananoise> fidel: I just want to see all computers on LAN in terminal.
[14:10] <benedict_> hi, i have a laptop with windows xp, ubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 12.04 (installed in this order) - doing 'update-grub2' in 12.04 i'll see found linux und initrd image, found memtest, found windows XP and found ubuntu 10.04 - but when booting i don't see 10.04
[14:10] <TJ-> fidel: I assume you can still boot from the liveISO?
[14:10] <dr_willis> tryy3:  you mean stop the X server?
[14:10] <fidel> TJ-: yes i can
[14:11] <tryy3> dr_willis ye or what ever handles gui
[14:11] <TJ-> fidel: Is there a version of Windows installed on it, that you also want access to?
[14:11] <fidel> TJ-: booting live-cds and or running install-procedures fro mthem do work without issues. problem starts on reboot
[14:11] <mrsnow> morethananoise: how about nmap?
[14:11] <fidel> TJ-: no i want a stupid single boot
[14:12] <fidel> TJ-: so linux / ubuntu only and thats it
[14:12] <dr_willis> tryy3:  sudo service lightdm          start/stop/restart  like we mentioned earlier today
[14:12] <crazydip> morethananoise: nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
[14:12] <tryy3> dr_willis ah thanks, forgot sorry
[14:12] <crazydip> morethananoise: assuming of course you are in the IP range of 192.168.1.X
[14:13] <fidel> TJ-: those lenovo think centres seem to have issues with several installers. trying to install xp fails also if you dont create yourself a modified install-medium ....impressive issues ihavent seen before in that detail
[14:13] <tryy3> hehe that gave me some more ram :D
[14:13] <fidel> TJ-: but back to main target - single ubuntu 64bit server - no other os'es needed at all
[14:13] <morethananoise> crazydip: anything i do not have to install? some utility that comes with system..
[14:14] <TJ-> fidel: :p OK ... just trying to get a picture in my mind of what would have happened and how to fix it. The core of the issue is the disk has a GPT (GUID partition table) rather than a 'legacy' MSDOS partition table. One implication of that is when the GRUB bootloader is installed, it should be installing "grub-efi" rather than "grub-pc".
[14:14] <fidel> TJ-: grub-efi vs grub-pc is a good pointer. agreeing to the rest
[14:14] <dr_willis> tryy3:  why do you need moer ram? swap partition should handle out of ram cases
[14:15] <crazydip> morethananoise: in truth i don't even know what is and what's not installed by default as i have had nmap and other programs installed for years :)
[14:15] <TJ-> fidel: One thing to always keep in mind - since it can easily catch us out - is that on a GPT disk there is a 'dummy' MSDOS partition label to prevent legacy tools corrupting the GPT
[14:15] <tryy3> dr_willis i ment that gnome was using alot of ram usage :D
[14:16] <TJ-> fidel: So doing the usual grub-pc updates of the MBR and so forth doesn't have the magic effect one would suppose :)
[14:16] <morethananoise> crazydip: I see. But it helped me, that is what i need, gonna check it out when im back in school. :) Is there something like psshutdown? That come turn off linux by lan? (psshutdown is for windows)
[14:17] <fidel> TJ-: yep i was trying to use fdisk during live-cd which failed as well - i assume this is also a uefi/gpt issue
[14:17] <TJ-> fidel: Have you read this page, and in particular the section "Converting Ubuntu into EFI mode" ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[14:18] <fidel> TJ-: i do see 3 partitions created on that disk by the 12.04 installer: uefi-partition + linux + swap
[14:18] <crazydip> morethananoise: practically no as it would be a monster of a security risk
[14:18] <crazydip> morethananoise: just use ssh
[14:18] <fidel> no - thanks for the link
[14:18] <TJ-> fidel: item 4 of the first paragraph covers your issue, I believe
[14:18] <crazydip> morethananoise: you can even ssh via keys so it would be without a password
[14:18] <fidel> TJ-: thanks gonna check it next hour
[14:18] <crazydip> !ssh | morethananoise
[14:20] <TJ-> fidel: also note what it says in item 1 about 'Boot-Repair' not being preinstalled in the standard 12.04 installer. This link shows you how to install it whilst in the liveISO environment:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu
[14:21] <morethananoise> crazydip: So if i'll learn a bit of ssh, i can turn off computers in class. (it sounds lame, i know, like i'm 13, but we do it all the time in class, but we weren't able to use linux at school before, so i don't know any way..)
[14:21] <ska> Is there an easy way to get UFS-read/write support in 12.04?
[14:22] <crazydip> morethananoise: ssh will allow you to log into the computer with sshd (server) installed and you will be able to use it as if you were right in front of the computer inside a terminal - so you will be able to do a LOT more than just turn it off :)
[14:23] <crazydip> morethananoise: of course you won't be able to turn it back on once you turn it off :D
[14:23] <yowmamasita> anyone here using tint2?
[14:23] <TJ-> !ufsutils | ska
[14:23] <crazydip> morethananoise: via ssh that is
[14:23] <ska> TJ-: I just don't want to compile and install akernel.
[14:23] <morethananoise> crazydip: turning off is enough, believe me. :) so.. lets learn some ssh, thanks you a lot. :)
[14:24] <TJ-> ska: UFS in already supported in 12.04; the user-space tools are in the ufsutils package
[14:24] <yowmamasita> im trying to maximize windows on openbox with tint2 but it goes beyond the tint2 space. when i set tint2 to be a dock, a border shows and it looks ugly. any other way to make it a dock without the border? i just want maximised programs to adjust with tint2 space
[14:25] <ska> TJ-: including RW support?
[14:26] <crazydip> morethananoise: you can start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[14:27] <designbybeck> a good solution for YouTube Full Screen video FIx on dual monitors?
[14:28] <TJ-> ska: there wouldn't be much point in supporting UFS if it didn't at least support [R]ead! Looking at the tools in 'ufsutils' it must support [W]rite too, since there is mkfs, fsck, growfs
[14:28] <crazydip> just found out you can set nameservers per network interface in /etc/network/interfaces - why wasn't this in the man page? :(
[14:29] <ska> TJ-: I'll check it, but its been RO for a long time with the ufsutils..
[14:29] <diverdude> jrib: hello, how can i see which ubuntu version is running?
[14:30] <ThinkT510> diverdude: lsb_release -sd
[14:34] <sasuke> hi guys, i installed ubuntu on virtualbox & when i maximize the screen its not getting full screen
[14:35] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, Have you installed the guest additions
[14:35] <ska> TJ-: It didn't work.. can't mount rw
[14:35] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i tried.. but unable to install that. i downloaded & mount on ubuntu
[14:35] <MrHashimoto> i am looking to add a printer and download the drivers can anyone help
[14:35] <fidel> sasuke: vmware-tools installed? erm vb-extensions i guess
[14:36] <fidel> *guest-additions*
[14:36] <sasuke> fidel, i installed virtualbox ... i dont think vmware -guest will work
[14:37] <fidel> sasuke: sorry i ment 'vb-guest-additions'
[14:37] <sasuke> fidel, i downloaded this
[14:38] <sasuke> vboxadditions
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, the guest additions are in the top in a drop down and clickable in a gui.
[14:39] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i tried but it didnt work
[14:40] <crazydip> sasuke: you need to restart the guest after installing guest additions
[14:40] <crazydip> sasuke: if install did not work, just do it by hand
[14:41] <bercik1> Hi
[14:41] <simonpe^^_> Does QtDBus have it's own independent implementation of dbus server/client? I happened to notice that dbus is GPL and Qt LGPL. Can I use QtDBus in a proprietary application?
[14:41] <crazydip> sasuke: inside your ubuntu guest, mount the cdrom and inside it there will be linux-install-guest-addition.sh or something like that
[14:41] <crazydip> sasuke: run that from the terminal
[14:42] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, for exacting instructions there is also a #vbox channel if needed.
[14:42] <bercik1> I just downloaded, built and installed the leatest ATi drivers, but fglrxinfo still displays GLX. Any ideas how to fix that please?
[14:43] <crazydip> sasuke: also before installing guest additions you must install dkms
[14:43] <sasuke> crazydip, hi i mounted it on /media. inside the iso i found "autorun.sh" &  "runasroot.sh"
[14:43] <crazydip> forgot about that
[14:44] <sasuke> dkms pck
[14:44] <crazydip> sasuke: hold on let me mount check where it's at
[14:45] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i got it
[14:45] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i got it thnx
[14:45] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, I would use the vbox channel rather then getting sort of accurate info here to be honest
[14:45] <fidel> TJ-: as i was curious: it seems to be related with the 12.04 installer & the hardware. if i do run the 10.04 server install it works without issues including rebooting ;)
[14:46] <wilee-nilee> we all want to help but that want can get in the way of actually helping at times.
[14:46] <fidel> the uefi/gpt issue ...continue my tests now ;)
[14:46] <MrHashimoto> i am looking to add a printer and download the drivers can anyone help?
[14:47] <crazydip> sasuke: maybe you have some old version of virtualbox because my iso has a lot more files and the one to run is: VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[14:47] <ardchoille> dr_willis: may I pm you?
[14:47] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I have an Aspire One 722 with Ubuntu 12.04 64bits installed, the AMD drivers for my Radeon 6290, but flash videos are still very choppy and laggy in fulscreen and sometimes even at normal size. Any suggestion would be very welcomed. Thanks.
[14:48] <morethananoise> is there any way to install ubuntu without gui?
[14:48] <sasuke> crazydip, i have   VBoxLinuxAdditions.run also in that. Can you tell me i can i install
[14:48] <jrib> morethananoise: do you want a gui on the installed system? (i.e. do you just want to avoid gui for the installer?)
[14:48] <sasuke> crazydip, i though only sh files will work on ubuntu.
[14:48] <wilee-nilee> morethananoise, there is a alternative cd that is a text install.
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> sorry lads, troubles with my tty's
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> jrib, good question. ;)
[14:49] <fidel> morethananoise: yep there is
[14:49] <crazydip> sasuke: it's just an extension it does not matter, what matters is what's inside, which is actually an sh script anyway :)
[14:49] <morethananoise> jrib: i do not want any x, like gnome etc..
[14:49] <jrib> !minimal | morethananoise
[14:50] <fidel> morethananoise:then use the server-cd and pick nothing in the package-selection
[14:50] <crazydip> sasuke: run it like this: sudo sh VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[14:50] <morethananoise> fidel: Is there any way with regular CD?
[14:51] <silverarrow> morethananoise: no, only macs work with ubuntu
[14:51] <nwillems> Has anyone experience ubuntu overwriting files after a power failure? I have jenkins installed and after a power failure it was reverted back to the old one from the repos :(
[14:51] <fidel> morethananoise: well you could remove all the packagages afterwards ...which is messy & time consuming
[14:51] <jrib> silverarrow: please don't do that :x
[14:51] <crazydip> sasuke: also note that i'm on the oracle's version of virtualbox not ubuntu's (not the 100% open source)
[14:51] <silverarrow> jrib, yeah, it was a bit naughty of me
[14:51] <fidel> morethananoise: no - i dont know a way using the normal cd - but that does not mean there is no way at all
[14:51] <tyler_d> nwillems: in the event of a power failure the only way to ensure a sane system is to re-install
[14:52] <tyler_d> nwillems: I would suggest that, and a ups
[14:52] <fidel> morethananoise: just go for jribs advice and use the minimal cd or the server one
[14:52] <funky1> hi all, trying to install vmware server on ubuntu 12.04
[14:52] <funky1> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[14:52] <funky1> kernel?
[14:52] <fidel> morethananoise: the main diff is the default package-selection ...and desktop-cd comes with tons of pre-selected packages
[14:52] <nwillems> tyler_d: as in a complete reinstall? Not just disk-check/cleanup maybee some sanity check of files?
[14:52] <sasuke> crazydip, its installing.. now should i need to install any pcks
[14:52] <funky1> how can i find that out?
[14:53] <jrib> !vmware | funky1
[14:53] <funky1> vmwareserver
[14:53] <jrib> funky1: read the link
[14:53] <crazydip> pcks? you mean packages? well you needed dkms otherwise you will have to reinstall the additions after every kernel upgrade
[14:53] <tyler_d> nwillems: the only way to ensure sanity is a complete re-install. the problem being that procs write to disk, when a power failure occurs its the same as the disk becoming full. you don't know where and at what point and what files were opened or written to and just stopped.
[14:53] <wangpeng> i dont like ubuntu
[14:53] <funky1> yes
[14:53] <funky1> already been there
[14:53] <funky1> does not solve my problem
[14:53] <ThinkT510> wangpeng: then don't use it
[14:54] <silverarrow> wangpeng: yeah, so that is why you are here
[14:54] <funky1> still asking for the proper location of c header files
[14:54] <nwillems> tyler_d: But these files that were open would probably have some faulty file ending, or how?
[14:54] <tyler_d> nwillems: however, if you are satisfied with a few sanity checks then I would say cary on. but in the future if something doesn't behave as it should... it is possibly related to this.
[14:54] <wangpeng> i don't like but i must use it
[14:54] <crazydip> sasuke: pcks? you mean packages? well you needed dkms otherwise you will have to reinstall the additions after every kernel upgrade
[14:54] <wangpeng> i want to meet you
[14:54] <jrib> funky1: well what steps on the wiki are you following exactly?
[14:55] <jrib> !ot | wangpeng
[14:55] <tyler_d> nwillems: I don't know how all of your applications write to files or swap or memory; nor all of your daemons running.
[14:55] <funky1> yes
[14:55] <funky1> but again those steps are not for 12.04
[14:55] <jrib> funky1: so you aren't following the wiki?  Yes, the wiki is outdated, but you can see what the steps were for earlier versions of ubuntu
[14:55] <sasuke> crazydip, i restarted the vbox.
[14:55] <nwillems> tyler_d: but back to the original problem, I had made a symlink from jenkins-<newer.version>.war
[14:55] <funky1> yes i did that and this is not first time i install vmware server
[14:56] <wangpeng> are you anger?
[14:56] <funky1> but it is giving me trouble when it needs to locate the c header files
[14:56] <jrib> funky1: so I repeat my question: what steps on the wiki are you following exactly?
[14:56] <tyler_d> nwillems: ... ok?
[14:56] <tyler_d> I missed the orig question sorry.
[14:56] <fidel> wangpeng: no - but we all try to stay on topic ... and chan-topic is offering help. if you want to discuss other things -Y consider using other channels
[14:57] <nwillems> * to jenkins-<newer.version>.war from jenkins.war, and after this power failure, the symlink was gone and the original jenkins.war(as in the one installed by apt-get) was back. How so?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> wangpeng  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[14:57] <funky1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server/AMD64
[14:57] <funky1> so when runnign the script it is asking for the c header location
[14:57] <nwillems> tyler_d: And i accidentially hit my enter-button to soon :(
[14:57] <funky1> there is nothing about that in the wiki
[14:57] <funky1> so what to do
[14:57] <sasuke> crazydip, its working .... thnx a lot
[14:57] <jrib> funky1: did you install the packages specified before that?
[14:58] <jrib> !who | funky1
[14:58] <tyler_d> nwillems: so your sym link is not htere?
[14:58] <funky1> yes
[14:58] <jrib> funky1: so have you tried using the default answer?
[14:58] <funky1> jrib: yes
[14:58] <jrib> funky1: and what is the result?
[14:58] <nwillems> tyler_d: no, it is replaced by the original package. It seems that ubuntu made som recover mode, and discovered that jenkins.war was no longer the one from the package and then replaced it :s
[14:59] <funky1> jrib: that is not the right directory
[14:59] <jrib> funky1: what exactly is the output?
[14:59] <funky1> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[14:59] <jrib> funky1: dpkg -L THE_LINUX_HEADER_PACKAGE_YOU_INSTALLED_BEFORE
[14:59] <foobArrr> can rhythmbox watch a folder for changes/additions or do I have to import every new subfolder manually?
[15:00] <nwillems> tyler_d: sorry, yes it is not there. it is replaced.
[15:00] <tyler_d> nwillems: I do not know what that package is I'm sorry. But my advise is still the same; you are trying to fix a volatile system that is not predictable now; and who knows the levels that this is now broken.
[15:00] <fidel> foobArrr: maid is a nice way to monitor certain folders
[15:00] <jrib> fidel: I'll be right back
[15:00] <funky1> jrib: this is fresh install on new machine
[15:00] <crazydip> sasuke: awesome, you're welcome... have fun!
[15:01] <fidel> jrib: thanks - but i'll leave now until tomorrow. Got 1 step further .... lets talk tomorrow if you are interested in general in that efi/gpt/issue
[15:02] <sandb____> TJ-: still around?
[15:03] <GeoGeek> Any mondorescue experts here? I am trying a selective restore and it appears to work, but when I reboot the machine the files haven't been restored.
[15:03] <jrib> funky1: what?
[15:03] <davidgilmour> anyone knows a way to save a whole ubuntu system? i'm currently running a vps (linode), and i want to save an image of the disk or something so i can restore it later in a clean system
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, edit-preferences-music set the file you want watched
[15:03] <nwillems> tyler_d: Its a 30M file - it doesn't just get there. The jenkins.war is located in /usr/shar/jenkins/jenkins.war, i switched the real file for a symlink to a file in the same dir. It just seems VERY strange that it is replaced. If the system failed, it should just recover any broken inodes or such and then get up and running again, not replace my files. So I'm seeking an explanation on how this happened.
[15:03] <GeoGeek> @davidgilmour: mondo
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> davidgilmour, I use clonezilla for cloning.
[15:04] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000f0
[15:04] <tyler_d> nwillems: well, sorry I couldn't offer an explanation on that for you. best of luck
[15:04] <jrib> funky1: do you understand what to put after the dpkg -L?
[15:04] <funky1> jrib: i think not
[15:05] <jrib> funky1: what packages have you installed because of the advice on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server/AMD64 ?
[15:05] <nwillems> tyler_d: Thanks anyway. Do you know of any ubuntu-dev channel I could join and ask?
[15:05] <tyler_d> nwillems: unfortunately not
[15:05] <foobArrr> wilee-nilee: thanks
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, no problem.
[15:06] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000f0
[15:06] <funky1> jrib: all that is mentioned there my kernel iheader is linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic
[15:07] <jrib> funky1: so run: dpkg -L linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic
[15:07] <funky1> jrib: yes that gives me a bunch of directories
[15:07] <funky1> all in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic/include/
[15:07] <funky1> and also tried that with vmware
[15:07] <jrib> funky1: and what was the output?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> nwillems  dev channels are usually for support
[15:08] <funky1> jrib:The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[15:08] <funky1> your running kernel (version 3.2.0-31-generic).  Even if the module were to
[15:08] <funky1> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> nwillems  dev channels are usually not for support
[15:08] <jrib> funky1: and what's the output of « uname -r »?
[15:09] <funky1> jrib:3.2.0-31-generic
[15:09] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000f0
[15:09] <bazhang> dileep, yes, we see, what is the context
[15:09] <sin_tax> anyone know if there's a way to confirm that I've properly compiled Curl with c-ares support?
[15:10] <dileep> yes
[15:10] <bazhang> dileep, just repeatedly posting that without context wont get an answer
[15:10] <utabak> hi, is there a way to install ia32-libs for 32 bit applicatios, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs give a lot of dependency problems...
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> utabak  ia32-libs is part of something bigger, moment
[15:10] <jrib> funky1: well that's silly
[15:10] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000f0
[15:11] <utabak> MonkeyDust: I could not find where it is
[15:11] <bazhang> dileep, Stop that
[15:11] <wam> Hi, I'm running unity 3d Ver. 5.16 in ubuntu 12/04. My performance on a intel graphics chip is very poor as soon as I connect my 2 displays to the notebook. With only the notebook screen (1440x900) it's ok, but with my current width of 4480px, it's lagging like hell. Unity 2d works smoothly. Is there any documentation how I could fix this performance problem? I'd be willing to deactivate eye-candy if that helps.
[15:11] <bazhang> !details | dileep
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> utabak  it's ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:12] <utabak> MonkeyDust: oh wait that was the one I tried got lots of dependency problems
[15:12] <dileep> 12.04
[15:12] <jrib> funky1: same issue on earlier version: http://serverfault.com/questions/230767/how-do-i-install-kernel-headers-for-vmware-to-match-my-running-kernel-version-2 (read for hints)
[15:13] <OerHeks> utabak, what version of Ubuntu ? 12.04 is already multi-arch
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> utabak  first on my mind: make sure you're not using old repos
[15:13] <utabak> OerHeks: I use 12.04 precise
[15:14] <jrib> funky1: there's also some discussion here with a link to a vmware forum topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596105
[15:14] <utabak> MonkeyDust: maybe I should check
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> utabak  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here
[15:14] <nwillems> MonkeyDust: Well - would seeking an explanation to some problem and not the solution, still be described as support?
[15:14] <jrib> funky1: you may also want to try the vmware channel for their advice
[15:14] <funky1> jrib:will have a look, thx
[15:14] <bazhang> nwillems, whats the issue, ask here
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> nwillems  the explanation is the first step toward a solution
[15:15] <gyre007> how does upstart compare to runit ? can I use upstart as a service supervisor ?
[15:16] <jrib> gyre007: try #upstart
[15:16] <nvictor> hey all
[15:16] <utabak> MonkeyDust: I learned some new trick from you ;-) here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260129/
[15:17] <anonymous> hallo
[15:17] <nwillems> bazhang: After a powerfailure my jenkins installation has kinda "reset". Previously I had a symlink from jenkins.war, now I have the old/original jenkins.war file back. Why has ubuntu removed my symlink and replaced it with the original file?
[15:17] <sandb____> can anyone tell me why, when I generate a keypair without a passphrase (ssh-keygen -t rsa) on this Ubuntu 10.04.4LTS system and then copy it back to my Mac and try and use it I get prompted for the passphrase?
[15:17] <nvictor> which log file would contain file remove operations ?
[15:17] <gyre007> will do jrib
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> utabak  it's the natty repos, below :)
[15:18] <utabak> MonkeyDust: but natty repos are commented
[15:19] <utabak> MonkeyDust: maybe they are activated in the synaptic
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> utabak  get rid of the natty ssources, it may sovlve the issue
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[15:21] <utabak> MonkeyDust: indeed there were some in the software center
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> utabak  also: the natty source s are 64bit, the precise are 32bit
[15:22] <aristidesfl> hello
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse i386 Packages
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/non-free amd64 Packages
[15:22] <sandb____> TJ-: amazingly, despite strange problems (being prompted for the passphrase for a passphrase-less keyfile, signal 15's etc...) I have been able to checkout code from the remote svn repo!
[15:22] <aristidesfl> I need to copy the contents of a normal partition to a lvm lv
[15:22] <utabak> MonkeyDust: that is the same problem
[15:22] <utabak> MonkeyDust: still
[15:22] <aristidesfl> should I use cp, dd, rsync, tar.. ?
[15:22] <utabak> MonkeyDust: with sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:25] <BlackNarcissus> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 64bits on an AMD Radeon chipset with working proprietary drivers, and flash videos are really laggy when fullscreen. Any suggestions would be very welcomed. Thanks.
[15:25] <pendi23> Hi, I'm for the first time on an IRC.
[15:26] <pendi23> Could I ask you for something?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ask away
[15:27] <pendi23> I have a NTFS mounted to /mount/c. And I want to give r/w/e right to a "normal account".
[15:29] <pendi23> Can anyone help me? I tried Ubuntu Wiki -- chmod but it didn't help.
[15:29] <llutz> !ntfs | pendi23
[15:29] <Hatori> pendi23, you should more detail
[15:30] <pendi23> During the installation I set auto-mounting of the partition. Being an Administrator, I use it normally. But it doesn't work by a "normal-user" account.
[15:32] <bkc_> pendi23: -o user,rw,auto
[15:36] <pendi23> Thanks, I'll try it.
[15:37] <utabak> MonkeyDust: is there a way to install ia32-libs for ubuntu 12.04
[15:37] <utabak> Is there a way to install ia32-libs for ubuntu 12.04
[15:37] <utabak> I have been trying for an hour without any success
[15:38] <bkc_> utabak: ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[15:38] <utabak> bkc_: lots of dependency problems which I could not understand
[15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: try to google before you ask :)
[15:38] <utabak> WhereIsMySpoon: I read that manual already
[15:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: so you tried sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 gcc-4.6-base:i386 libstdc++5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[15:39] <utabak> WhereIsMySpoon: none helped
[15:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
[15:39] <jrib> utabak: you should pastebin what you are doing and the full output
[15:40] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260176/
[15:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880965
[15:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> basically, it isnt ready yet
[15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> from what i see
[15:42] <bkc_> utabak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18545/installing-suggested-recommended-packages <-- tried this one
[15:42] <wil_> hey is this irc channel for Xubuntu support too?
[15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: #xubuntu
[15:42] <wil_> thanks
[15:43] <wil_> But I think I have this problem at every operating system xD
[15:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: you can try asking here too, if it isnt too specific
[15:43] <wil_> it isnt very specific
[15:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu is quite similar to ubuntu, just has less stuff
[15:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: then ask
[15:43] <wil_> yeah
[15:43] <wil_> On a moment my CPU fan stops using
[15:43] <wil_> and then my CPU will get too hot
[15:43] <jrib> utabak: so do you have any unofficial packages installed or unofficial repositories enabled?
[15:44] <wil_> and then my pc turns off
[15:44] <wil_> automaticly
[15:44] <jrib> !enter | wil_
[15:44] <wil_> oh I am very sorry... But does anyone has an idea here?
[15:44] <utabak> jrib: as far as I know not but let me see my sources.list
[15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: could be lots of things, how old is your fan?
[15:44] <wil_> idk, this laptop I am using is 5 years or so
[15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: does this happen on windows?
[15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you use windows
[15:45] <wil_> uhh IDK
[15:45] <utabak> jrib: no not
[15:45] <davidgilmour> anyone knows how can i convert a raw file made by dd to iso?
[15:45] <kermit> davidgilmour: convert?  if its a raw file with dd, it already is an iso
[15:45] <wil_> nope
[15:46] <kermit> davidgilmour:  i mean, if yuo dd'd an iso, its still an iso
[15:46] <wil_> whreismyspoon no
[15:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: sounds more like a hardware issue than anything else tbh
[15:46] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, just rename the extension of the file to .iso and it will be :)
[15:46] <davidgilmour> actually i'm using ddrescue. i want to make a disk image.. the output is the same as an iso format?
[15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> afk
[15:47] <jrib> utabak: I can try to help you, but it will take a few rounds of pastebin
[15:47] <wil_> well, then it should stop when I boot the laptop don't yo think so
[15:47] <wil_> ?
[15:47] <davidgilmour> thanks, i'm getting a little bit old for this
[15:47] <utabak> jrib: ok
[15:47] <jrib> utabak: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines:i386
[15:47] <jrib> »
[15:48] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, yes but you will end up with a iso of your hard disk.
[15:48] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260185/
[15:49] <wil_> I think I can better post my problem at the forums
[15:49] <Mechdave_> utabak, I got that when I enabled precise-proposed
[15:49] <wil_> what is better, askubuntu or ubuntforums
[15:49] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386
[15:49] <llutz> davidgilmour: "ISO" refers to iso9660 (used for cd-roms). so no, you'll get just a plain image-file
[15:50] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260192/
[15:50] <davidgilmour> that's good enough as long as i can restore it back as i would like an iso :)
[15:50] <KenSharp> Hi all. I have installed aufs-tools but mount just prints the help whenever I try to use it. I'm guessing but do I need to build the kernel module also?
[15:51] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0:i386
[15:51] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260193/
[15:52] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libcairo2:i386
[15:52] <utabak> Mechdave_: hmm ok that is a different one
[15:52] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, all I ever do is use dd if=/dev/some_partition of=/path/to/image/file. And to restore dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/disk
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> KenSharp  i had never heard of it, but start here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/aufsRootFileSystemOnUsbFlash
[15:52] <BlackNarcissus> Hello. Sorry to ask again but I am using Ubuntu 12.04 64bits on a netbook with Radeon HD chipset and visibly working AMD drivers, but flash videos are very choppy and laggy when fullscreen. I tried everything, help would be really appreciated. Thanks
[15:53] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, There are other options too. Maybe read man dd before you do anything
[15:53] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260197/ where are you trying to reach ;-)
[15:54] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libxrender1:i386    eventually, it should say package is X version but I want Y
[15:54] <jrib> utabak: sometimes I try to make a smart choice about the chain to follow, but don't always succeed ;)
[15:54] <utabak> ok before you asked I understood what you try to do and now a lot packages to be removed
[15:54] <utabak> with that command
[15:55] <jrib> utabak: pastebin
[15:55] <jrib> utabak: (don't accept)
[15:55] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260201/
[15:56] <Vooloo> when I type "crontab -e" what file is it editing? at the top it says /tmp/ ... but can I find this specific file somewhere?
[15:56] <utabak> jrib: dont worry I am not that rokkie :-)
[15:56] <jrib> utabak: interesting...
[15:56] <utabak> jrib: ??
[15:57] <jrib> utabak: apt-cache policy libxrender1:i386
[15:57] <llutz> Vooloo: yes, in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[15:57] <Mechdave_> Vooloo, /etc/crontab
[15:57] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260206/
[15:58] <jrib> utabak: also I find it interesting that it wants to install emacs when you just ask for libxrender1
[15:58] <Mechdave_> Oops, wrong file
[15:58] <datruth> Hey when a person leaves there laptop on charge 99% of the time they use does this kill the battery?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> utabak  still struggling with ia-32 ?
[15:59] <Mechdave_> datruth, It killed mine
[15:59] <utabak> MonkeyDust: unfortunately
[15:59] <ThinkT510> datruth: not that i've noticed
[16:00] <Mechdave_> utabak, I installed ia32-libs-multiarch without problems
[16:00] <datruth> Mechdave_: ;/
[16:00] <jrib> utabak: out of curiousity what does this do: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:00] <utabak> jrib: that is also strange but it does nothing
[16:00] <osse> is there a CLI way of adjusting the sound volume as if you used the "systray" icon?
[16:00] <datruth> my laptop is a desktop replacement so I uusually leave it on charge I guess this is a bad thing
[16:01] <Mechdave_> jrib, I had the same problem when I installed precise-proposed packages to get gvfs working with japanese char sets
[16:02] <Mechdave_> jrib, Just wondering if there is a proposed package breaking things there somewhere
[16:03] <jrib> utabak: usually it turns out something like Mechdave_ suggests.  Either -proposed or -updates was enabled at one point, an upgrade was done, and then it was disabled.  But this last apt-get output confuses me.  Does Mechdave_'s suggestion ring any bells?
[16:03] <Mechdave_> datruth, I was told by my battery supplier to "exercise" the battery on a regular basis
[16:03] <jrib> osse: hmm.  Have you tried using pacmd maybe?
[16:03] <bookman> who knows how to install "curl" out of terminal? The server is busy and doesn`t want to download curl
[16:04] <utabak> jrib: what was his sugge
[16:04] <jrib> bookman: what does "out of terminal" mean?
[16:04] <yujadeh> join
[16:04] <utabak> jrib: what was the suggestion?
[16:04] <yujadeh> this is the ubuntu channel?
[16:04] <utabak> jrib: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch ??
[16:04] <datruth> Mechdave_: I see
[16:04] <bazhang> yujadeh, yes
[16:04] <jrib> utabak: regarding the -proposed or -updates repository being enabled and then disabled
[16:04] <bookman> jrib: i tried to install it through terminal
[16:04] <yujadeh> ohh thx bazhang
[16:04] <jrib> bookman: yes?
[16:05] <Mechdave_> bookman, start with sudo apt-get install curl
[16:05] <bookman> jrib: but the rezult is 0
[16:05] <jrib> bookman: pastebin full input and output
[16:05] <bookman> jrib: the server is unaibale
[16:05] <yujadeh> someone know if i can open metacity with lightdm stoped?
[16:05] <Mechdave_> bookman, then how to use is man curl
[16:05] <utabak> jrib: I did not understand what I should do now, confused,
[16:05] <bookman> jrib: ok, i`ll try that =)
[16:05] <jrib> utabak: did you ever enable ubuntu-updates or ubuntu-proposed repositories?
[16:06] <osse> jrib: no I haven't. It looks interesting. I'll experiment with it. Thanks =)
[16:06] <utabak> jrib: I am not sure but what is the point?
[16:06] <Mechdave_> utabak, did you change the software sources in Ubuntu Software Center at all lately?
[16:06] <jrib> utabak: it's often the cause of issues like these
[16:06] <johangod> im installing mac in virtualbox :D
[16:06] <bookman> Mechdave: I know how to use it, I can`t download =) It`s on desktop, on laptop it`s okay =)
[16:06] <yujadeh> someone can help me with ligthdm?
[16:07] <utabak> Mechdave_: ok this is better, yes, I played with them today after these problems
[16:07] <jrib> !ask | yujadeh
[16:07] <bookman> Mechdave_: I know how to use it, I can`t download =) It`s on desktop, on laptop it`s okay =
[16:07] <utabak> Mechdave_: not software resources but the synaptic gui, that is the same I guess
[16:08] <yujadeh> can i close lightdm and open only metacity?
[16:08] <jrib> yujadeh: lightdm is the login screen were you enter your password
[16:08] <Mechdave_> utabak, do you remember which packages were installed when you played around with the sources?
[16:08] <yujadeh> im so confused xD
[16:08] <pr0metheu5> Is there a way to edit gnome appearance settings within fluxbox
[16:08] <yujadeh> so, i have to stop gdm and then open metacity only?
[16:09] <utabak> Mechdave_: I tried to install ia32-libs from there but it was not possible so I could not install any packages
[16:09] <Mechdave_> bookman, Ok maybe you might have to wait until the server is not so busy :)
[16:09] <bookman> Mechdave_: ok =)
[16:09] <utabak> Mechdave_: but is not there a root solution for this?
[16:10] <utabak> Mechdave_: something like leaving only sources of the supported software in sources.list and update , sth like this??
[16:10] <jrib> pr0metheu5: I just edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini , but there are programs that at least let you change the gtk2 settings (gtk-chtheme is one I just found in the repositories)
[16:10] <johangod> i have soon tried almost every linux distros and i think xubuntu is the best :D
[16:10] <jrib> yujadeh: why?
[16:10] <jrib> !who | yujadeh
[16:11] <jrib> utabak: how did you modify your sources exactly?
[16:11] <Mechdave_> utabak, There is a way, just takes some finding. One way is to identify which packages belong to proposed and unsupported and updates and selectively removing them
[16:11] <johangod> just one bad thing i cant disable keyring... can someone help me with that?
[16:11] <yujadeh> !tab
[16:11] <yujadeh> jrib: I want to close the gnome shell and only start metacity
[16:11] <OerHeks> utabak, if you are on 12.04, your system is multi-arch, so no ned for IA32-libs
[16:11] <bobweaver> metacity --replace
[16:12] <yujadeh> but cant stop it with /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[16:12] <utabak> OerHeks: this is even strange
[16:12] <jrib> yujadeh: gdm is also a login screen.  Lightdm is the default login screen.  They serve different functions than unity, gnome shell, and metacity
[16:12] <bazhang> yujadeh, those are two different things, gdm and lightdm. why are you wanting metacity only, by the way
[16:13] <jrib> OerHeks: here's the output of « sudo apt-get install libxrender1:i386 » for utabak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260201/
[16:13] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  ps aux | grep <name that you want to get info on>    then kill pid  , example      killall unity-2d-{shell,pannel,spread} && metacity --replace
[16:13] <utabak> jrib: basically the source of the problem started with "./gmsh: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64"
[16:13] <yujadeh> bobweaver: thx im trying it
[16:14] <utabak> jrib, OerHeks , Mechdave_ : then started on its mailing list and found out that it is related to ia32-libs
[16:14] <jrib> utabak: output of « uname -m » ?
[16:14] <utabak> jrib: x86_64
[16:14] <OerHeks> utabak did you somewere use 'Aptitude' ?
[16:15] <utabak> OerHeks: yes, why
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> ah!
[16:15] <windows-pure-ago> ls
[16:15] <windows-pure-ago> ls
[16:15] <bazhang> nice catch OerHeks
[16:15] <OerHeks> utabak, then i found your problem, paptitude is depreciated since ubuntu is multiarch
[16:15] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[16:15] <bazhang> windows-pure-ago, wrong terminal
[16:15] <windows-pure-ago> sorry just a habit
[16:16] <utabak> OerHeks: ok, so what should I do now look at the page there on
[16:16] <BlackNarcissus> Hello. Sorry to ask again but I am using Ubuntu 12.04 64bits on a netbook with Radeon HD chipset and visibly working AMD drivers, but flash  and HTML5 videos in browser are very choppy and laggy when fullscreen. I tried everything, help would be really appreciated. Thanks
[16:17] <bobweaver> BlackNarcissus,  where browser are you useing and where did you get flash  ect ?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> BlackNarcissus  right click on the video, enable/disable accelleration (i forget which)
[16:17] <bobweaver> s|where | what
[16:17] <OerHeks> i would go for a fresh install, as aptitude did wreck your system
[16:17] <napster> !grub
[16:17] <yujadeh> bobweaver: i think we dont understand xD
[16:17] <Mechdave_> utabak, jrib OerHeks I don't suppose they all are 32 bit marked for removal?
[16:18] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what are you trying to do with metacity ?
[16:18] <yujadeh> bobweaver: wait a moment ill try to explain better
[16:18] <midnightcoffee> not sure if this is the right place for this question. I'm trying to setup pyclewn and the instructions say "The installation process uses the environment variable EDITOR to invoke Vim and install the pyclewn help file, gvim is used when this environment variable is not found." how do ..what/how do i set my environment variable and to what?
[16:18] <Mechdave_> utabak, jrib OerHeks Have you got your $HOME on a seperate partition than /
[16:18] <BlackNarcissus> bobweaver: I'm using the latest Firefox and I installed flash via flashplugin-installer. I also tried getting the libflashplayer.so and putting it in .mozilla/plugins to no avail.
[16:18] <utabak> Mechdave_: no it is on /
[16:19] <Mechdave_> utabak, I think maybe you should back up your $HOME asap :)
[16:19] <BlackNarcissus> MonkeyDust: I tried and it the same, I did a fresh install and now I'm not even able to click the checkbox...
[16:19] <bobweaver> BlackNarcissus,  you have installed Ubuntu-restricted-extras ? <<spelling could be wrong
[16:19] <utabak> Mechdave_: why do you say so?
[16:20] <BlackNarcissus> bobweaver: Yes
[16:20] <yujadeh> bobweaver: i want to kill the graphics and only leave the window manager
[16:20] <DaemonicApathy> Is there an easy way to automate mirroring additions to Home on a separate partition, but not deletions?
[16:20] <jrib> utabak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260201/ isn't aptitude output, right?  It's apt-get output?  I'm kind of curious about what you did with aptitude if you happen to remember
[16:20] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what DE are you using atm ?
[16:20] <utabak> jrib: all the pastebins are 'apt-get'
[16:20] <bazhang> yujadeh, you want a window manager without an xserver?
[16:20] <Mechdave_> utabak, well in case you need to do a fresh install. It pays to back up everything while your system is still working. It is much harder to back up after the system is broken. When you have package problems such as you have it is very easy to break your system accidently
[16:21] <yujadeh> bazhang: yep thats it
[16:21] <utabak> Mechdave_: I was also afraid of this
[16:21] <Mechdave_> utabak, it is just a precaution at the moment
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> utabak  i agree, fresh install is faster and easier than a repair -- backup first!
[16:22] <yujadeh> bazhang: what i should do?
[16:22] <utabak> Mechdave_: ok I will start backing up
[16:22] <Krasus> Hey, I need to do a simple poster for my school work what program is best for it? something simple i m not a pro when it comes to graphic :)
[16:23] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  you have looked at $(HOME)/.xinitrc
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Krasus  inkscape
[16:23] <yujadeh> bobweaver: omw
[16:23] <Krasus> MonkeyDust, k thx. Do u have some basic guide of inkscape usage ?
[16:24] <bazhang> Krasus, #inkscape has a channel here on freenode
[16:24] <yujadeh> bobweaver: i dont find it bob
[16:24] <fidel> Krasus: in general there is no best ;). my advice would be 'gimp' - and maybe: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Krasus  i know it makes vector graphics, you can easily resize
[16:25] <Krasus> thx fidel and MonkeyDust
[16:25] <Mechdave_> utabak, Have you been using Synaptic?
[16:25] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  two things to look at    man startx   and man metacity
[16:25] <bobweaver> bith anwsers are in there
[16:25] <utabak> Mechdave_: yes
[16:25] <bobweaver> both *
[16:25] <Krasus> MonkeyDust, i got 2 logos and i want to make a simple poster with them
[16:25] <Krasus> plus some words like when where etc.
[16:25] <Mechdave_> utabak, could you find broken packages with that?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Krasus  gimp is for image manipulation, then fidel 's suggestion may be better
[16:26] <Mechdave_> utabak, like here --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122105/how-do-i-locate-and-remove-broken-packages-that-i-have-installed
[16:26] <bobweaver> like metacity --display=waylan --replace
[16:26] <Krasus> ok i will try but i m afraid Gimp maybe to complicated for me
[16:26] <Krasus> but i will give a try
[16:26] <yujadeh> bobweaver: and if i want to kill a x session?
[16:27] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  why ?
[16:27] <utabak> Mechdave_: but I should do a backup first I guess...
[16:28] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  I dont undersand  Look at"man startx" & "man  metacity"
[16:28] <yujadeh> bobweaver: yes, im looking at that
[16:28] <Mechdave_> utabak, I agree. A backup would be good. Don't forget to backup all your dot files in your $HOME as well :)
[16:29] <yujadeh> bobweaver: for example, i want to enter in only text mode and then open a terminal and start a program like firefox or something
[16:29] <utabak> Mechdave_: I did an upgrade last week and it was also problematic but after all I had a working system, now this problem popped up...
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> utabak  use rsync -avv --progress ~ [destination]
[16:29] <utabak> MonkeyDust: what is that for??
[16:30] <Mechdave_> utabak, which upgrade was that?
[16:30] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  like tty1 ?  then startx with metacity as windows manager ?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> utabak  backup, i hit enter just when you said something
[16:30] <utabak> Mechdave_: to 12.04
[16:30] <yujadeh> bobweaver: yep
[16:30] <Mechdave_> utabak, from 11.10?
[16:30] <utabak> Mechdave_: yes
[16:31] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what version of Ubuntu is this  that we are talking about ?
[16:31] <bobweaver> and WM please
[16:31] <bobweaver> gdm lightdm ect
[16:31] <jente> hi, I disabled the onboard sound in favor of a soundblaster live! card. the onboard sound, however, is still the main output device. do I have to delete the info of an onboard sound somewhere or is blacklisting the modules the way to go? setting priorities as mentioned in the wiki did nothing and leave the onboard sound as first device being used
[16:31] <yujadeh> bobweaver: 12.04
[16:31] <Mechdave_> utabak, I always prefer to do a fresh install between versions. Makes for a nicer system. I have always had many problems with dist upgrades :)
[16:32] <utabak> Mechdave_: indeed this is what I will also do from now on, this was not a major problem when I was a Debian fan ;-)
[16:33] <jente> I should mention that I am using the alsa soundsystem
[16:33] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  you have looked also @   sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager      &&   sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[16:33] <Mechdave_> utabak, Lol, Debian is a bit less user friendly though :)
[16:33] <kostkon> jente, plain alsa, without pulse?
[16:33] <yujadeh> bobweaver: nopes, im trying thx
[16:33] <utabak> Mechdave_: yes but these kinds of updates almost went without problems
[16:34] <jente> kostkon: yes, I got lubuntu installed yesterday and just found out that it does not use pulseaudio
[16:34] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  that is kinda the old way of doing it (I think) that is what I do with Debian Hurd
[16:34] <Mechdave_> utabak, really? I haven't played much with Debian
[16:34] <kostkon> jente, ah ok
[16:35] <adamsobotka> man irrsi
[16:35] <utabak> Mechdave_: I also have debian installed on this machine, maybe I continue with that from now on... I like ubuntu but these changes are always screwing somethings in the systems
[16:36] <yujadeh> bobweaver: it doesn't work
[16:36] <bobweaver> debian Rocks !
[16:36] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what do you mean ?
[16:36] <bengie> hi
[16:36] <jente> kostkon: it puzzles me that even though the card is disabled in the bios, it still gets recognized by the system
[16:36] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what happened besides "it dosent work "
[16:36] <yujadeh> bobweaver: it says nothing to configure
[16:36] <bengie> anybody cz ?
[16:36] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  then you only have gnome-sessions installed
[16:37] <bazhang> !cz | bengie
[16:37] <jono> hey folks
[16:37] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  for the sessions manager that is
[16:37] <yujadeh> bobweaver ; so?
[16:37] <Mechdave_> utabak, They tend to sometimes. I had all sorts of problems with precise-proposed over the last couple of days :)
[16:37] <jono> right now we are running the 24-hour Community Team marathon, be sure to join us at http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/
[16:37] <jono> and join in #ubuntu-on-air
[16:37] <bengie> jak se prosim pripojim na cz ? :D (sorry)
[16:37] <kostkon> jente, yes, it happens sometimes. so try to list your cards with: sudo asoundconf list
[16:37] <jono> for the marathon we are raising money for charity
[16:37] <utabak> Mechdave_: ok better not to lose more time with ubuntu now
[16:38] <bobweaver> jono,  Hi and thanks
[16:38] <Mechdave_> utabak, all over trying to read a music cd with non latin characters in filenames
[16:38] <jono> and want to hit our 3000 mark in the next 22 minutes - if you can donate, please go and donate at http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com/
[16:38] <jono> hey bobweaver!
[16:38] <kostkon> jente, i think it will list your sb as Live. so, then just try doing:  sudo asoundconf set-default-card Live
[16:38] <bobweaver> jono,  that is a Great ! cause what you all are doing. I also urge user to join that channel that jono talked about !
[16:38] <bengie> #ubuntu-cz
[16:38] <kostkon> jente, then reboot and see if that made any difference
[16:38] <xibalba> when doing ls -l , is it possible to get it to sort by file timestamps?
[16:39] <fantaghir> bengie napis lomitko join kanal
[16:39] <yujadeh> bobweaver: cant kill it and enter in text mode?
[16:39] <Mechdave_> xibalba, look at man ls
[16:39] <xibalba> just did
[16:39] <xibalba> -lct
[16:40] <jente> kostkon: is asoundconf in the alsa-utils package? i have the package installed, but no asoundconf
[16:40] <xibalba> i usually post my Q and load the man page at the same time :)
[16:40] <kostkon> jente, hmm
[16:40] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  press ctrl+lt+f1  then run ps aux | grep gnome-session      is it running and is it there ? you can kill by doing   kill <pid>   then make a new script that man startx talks about and launch startx then launch metacity with it
[16:41] <bobweaver> ctrl+alt+f1 *
[16:41] <Mechdave_> utabak, Good luck with your Debian :)
[16:41] <bobweaver> or ps aux | grep [g]nome-session       < so that grep dont grep out grep
[16:42] <BluesKaj> jente, asoundconf is no longer used afail , ~/.asoundrc is open to configuration if you need it
[16:42] <jente> kostkon: I think temporarily blacklisting the module might help, I will give that a try
[16:42] <bazhang> asoundconf-gtk   jente this?
[16:43] <jente> BluesKaj: now that I searched for it, I remember having a similar issue in some previous ubuntu version
[16:43] <jente> bazhang: no asoundconf whatsoever
[16:44] <yujadeh> bobweaver: but if i startx then i have the graphics again
[16:44] <bazhang> !info asoundconf-gtk | jente
[16:44] <jente> bazhang: ah, you mean package! I can install that
[16:44] <bobweaver> yujadeh, that is why you need to have told startx what server you want to use
[16:45] <yujadeh> bobweaver: ohh i think i have it
[16:45] <bobweaver> IE $(HOME)/.xserverrc
[16:45] <bobweaver> default is just X
[16:46] <yujadeh> bobweaver: startx -- :3?
[16:47] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  IDTS take a look at http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/startx.1.html
[16:48] <adamsobotka> hi
[16:48] <yujadeh> bobweaver: thx im looking it
[16:48] <[Tahini]_at_home> Hi all
[16:49] <[Tahini]_at_home> is there a way to change the applications listed under the "related applications" when I right click on a file and choose Properties/Open With ?
[16:50] <yujadeh> bobweaver: error xrdb cant open display
[16:52] <jente> bazhang, kostkon: asoundconf-gtk is here, but complains about 'sh: 1: /usr/bin/asoundconf: not found'. in a forum thread it says it needs asoundconf - which is not available here.
[16:53] <Lee__> anybody is using bumblebee?
[16:53] <kostkon> jente, it seems that asoundconf was removed sometime in the past. the last time i remember using it was in 7.04, so i think now it even more difficult to select a default device in plain alsa, without pulse that is
[16:53] <tomasm-> hi, how do I use software center to upgrade my kernel? what package is it? are there multiple packages (ie header, devel, etc)? and is there a more cutting edge/experimental set of kernels (I have a buggy wireless card)?
[16:54] <jente> kostkon: yes, BluesKaj mentioned something like that
[16:54] <kostkon> jente, you can always install pulse ;)
[16:55] <neglesaks> ?does anyone know if vino-server has an upper password length?
[16:55] <ska> I upgraded to 12.04, the older kernel (I still have it) 2.6.32-39-generic-pae has no problem being woken up by WOL. The new kernels all do.
[16:55] <ska> This is a RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller.
[16:56] <ska> Nothing on the web seems to solve this problem. I've tried all of them.
[16:56] <yujadeh> bobweaver: cant do it..
[16:56] <fidel> tomasm-: what kernel version do you currently use? terminal: uname -a
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> ska  the latest is 3.2.0-31
[16:56] <beandog> ska: any luck with ethtool?
[16:56] <jente> kostkon: hehe, I hated pulse at first, but then in ubuntu 11.10, it was like it wasn't even there and did the job well. I am seriously considering using it again. I wonder how it will integrate with lubuntu. first, let me give blacklisting the onboard-sound-moudule a go. will report back
[16:56] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  sorry I am not sure if I can help anymore. Good Luck
[16:56] <ska> beandog: Ethtool indicates that WOL is active.
[16:57] <kostkon> jente, try that first yes
[16:57] <tomasm-> fidel, 3.2.0-31 .... but a post last month about my wireless glitch said it wont be backported to anything earlier than 3.7 .... i just got 12.04 installed and it seems like the kernel is a bit behind
[16:58] <ska> MonkeyDust: I have the 3.2.0-29 and still no luck..
[16:58] <yujadeh> bobweaver: well, now i only need to know how to close the graphics
[16:58] <fidel> tomasm-: 1 possible option might be using a ppa
[17:00] <tomasm-> fidel, hmmm, i see 3.6.0 on kernel.ubuntu.com , but i'm not sure how to get a ppa set up
[17:00] <BluesKaj> jente, kostkon afaik , ~/.asoundrc has replaced asoundconf
[17:01] <ska> How can I get grub to default to a particular kernel? It doesn't seem to obey my commands.
[17:03] <EweR_> how come in 12.04 when I type su <user> it doesnt ask for password, just shows blank line and when i type su <user> again it asks for password, which i enter and it says that wrong password, even its not.. and when i try to su root, and enter pass it also says its wrong and basically at this point i have to re-open ssh again to function
[17:04] <BluesKaj> !sudo | EweR_
[17:04] <c_smith_> EweR_, the problem is you're not supposed to use su, but sudo
[17:04] <EweR_> c_smith_,  oh ok
[17:05] <c_smith_> EweR_, root by default doesn't have the root password defined as per the link BluesKaj had the bot post
[17:05] <eltonjon> hellow im looking for midi config to rosegarden
[17:05] <eltonjon> any ones can help
[17:05] <c_smith_> EweR_, also, welcome to the Ubuntu community
[17:05] <EweR_> c_smith_, thank you!
[17:06] <c_smith_> EweR_, not a prob
[17:07] <eltonjon> c_smith_: do you can help me out
[17:08] <PeaceOutside> am here
[17:08] <PeaceOutside> :)
[17:08] <c_smith_> eltonjon, sorry, but I have no knowledge of your issue.
[17:08] <FAMAS> now hold up
[17:08] <FAMAS> it is being compressed
[17:08] <c_smith_> eltonjon, sorry, good sir.
[17:08] <eltonjon> thx
[17:09] <jente> kostkon, BluesKaj: blacklisting the model did it for now
[17:09] <jente> I mean the module
[17:09] <PeaceOutside> no worries mate
[17:10] <kostkon> jente, nice. you can blacklist it permanently if you want
[17:10] <BluesKaj> jente, which module ?
[17:10] <EweR_> c_smith_, is choice to have a root acc on by default or not is asked upon fresh install? cause on me vpn its on by default
[17:11] <timposey> I do not even know what terms to search for on this, but I have a Ubuntu 12.04 system installed on a disk and the disk is almost full, I have another 200 gb drive that is empty, is there a way that the system can automatically see this new drive as an extenstion of the system so that it just starts to use this new drive as if it were a new section on the old drive as to say?
[17:11] <c_smith_> EweR_, root is never on by default in Ubuntu
[17:11] <jente> kostkon: already did blacklist it permanently. it's more of a workaround but it will do for now. the modules were snd-via82xx and snd-via82xx-modem
[17:12] <c_smith_> EweR_, it can be turned on, but that also introduces some security issues.
[17:12] <compdoc> timposey, not always easily, although you can easily use the 2nd drive for /home, or whatever directory that is using all that space
[17:13] <c_smith_> EweR_, gotta go, got places to go, hopefully someone here will be able to help you.
[17:13] <EweR_> c_smith, ok take care
[17:15] <BluesKaj> jente, on some bios you disable the onboard audio and choose the pci card in "peripherals" or audiocodec  optional choices , then no blacklist is required , because some upgrades can defeat media balcklists
[17:16] <kostkon> jente, nice. i also found this, you may want to try it http://askubuntu.com/questions/167394/sound-card-selection
[17:16] <timposey> compdoc, how would I go about setting it up that was for a specific directory such as home or a specific user in home I would imagine
[17:16] <jente> BluesKaj: oh, good to know! I will check that after reboot later today.
[17:17] <compdoc> timposey, need to format it (I like ext4) and then move your /home or whatever to it, then edit fstab to use it
[17:18] <rubenwardy> hi all
[17:18] <compdoc> timposey, its probably best to copy everything over, but keep the old directory until its working
[17:20] <jente> kostkon: I did try something like that some time ago but IIRC the order of soundcards changed from boot to boot. I might be wrong though and mix up my facts
[17:21] <jente> the result was pretty much the same as the one that user has/had
[17:22] <ska> aptitude -d upgrade ; hangs after downloading all files.. any idea?
[17:23] <timposey> compdoc, thanks, I'll give it a try... something I have been looking at also is setting up raid array, do you know if this can be accomplished this way?  It looks very difficult.
[17:23] <ska> can I get grub to show me what kernel it things #3 is?
[17:24] <bazhang> !aptitude | ska
[17:24] <compdoc> timposey, no, I use raid cards for arrays.
[17:24] <FAMAS> peaceoutside
[17:24] <timposey> compdoc, thanks
[17:25] <ENIACz> how i can add folder to my dock please ? (anyeay)
[17:25] <jente> BluesKaj, kostkon: the reason I changed soundcards was very bad sound quality. reading up a bit on that revealed that the onbord sound might be responsible for that.
[17:25] <ENIACz> how i can add folder to my dock please ? (anyay)
[17:26] <BluesKaj> jente, pulseaudio installed I assume
[17:26] <jente> I checked the volume levels, different sources and different devices with the same source.
[17:26] <ardchoille> ENIACz: you mean the dock in Unity?
[17:27] <pistman> hello world :)
[17:27] <jente> BluesKaj: no, just disabled/blacklisted the onboard sound so far, right now I am checking sound quality with different sources
[17:27] <XerObUg> Hi@ll
[17:27] <ENIACz> ardchoille,yeas i mean
[17:28] <ardchoille> ENIACz: I don't think that is possible yet
[17:28] <ENIACz> ok,i only asking,but its worst :/ :D :D
[17:28] <pistman> hi
[17:28] <ENIACz> hi
[17:28] <eltonjon> hellow im traing to configure a midi usb port so their im ussing rosegarden and their cant hear at all
[17:28] <pistman> do sy have an ide for a useful C sharp developer for linux?
[17:29] <ENIACz> ardchoille,please, how i can to mark your name,like you ??? please
[17:29] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, do you know why nautilus in 12.04 shows directories in a XFS filesystem as files with MIME as application/octet-stream ?
[17:29] <ardchoille> ENIACz: type the first few letters of my nick and press the tab key
[17:29] <ENIACz> ardchoille: thx :)
[17:29] <ardchoille> yw
[17:30] <BluesKaj> jente, 	I'm not a pulseaudio fan , but in some cases such as pci soundcards it's needed to work with website audio like flash/flv embedded files . if you have it then pavucontrol would be a benefit for input and output settings
[17:30] <ENIACz> ardchoille: good ? like this ??
[17:30] <mbutubuntu> ooh sorry... it was a permission issue :-)
[17:30] <ardchoille> ENIACz: yes
[17:30] <ENIACz> ardchoille: thx so much :))
[17:30] <pistman> I need a c sharp developer for linux
[17:30] <chris_99> could someone tell me the latest animal name of ubuntu?
[17:30] <pistman> not monodevelop
[17:31] <DogStarChampion> Pangolin.
[17:31] <pistman> it cannot compile normally
[17:31] <Azzle-Dazzle> when I download an app from software manager, it wont show up until i log out then log back in, Is there a terminal command i can use so i dont have to do this ?
[17:31] <eltonjon> alternative fer rosegarden ??
[17:31] <DogStarChampion> Quetzal is 12.10.
[17:31] <DogStarChampion> In regards to chris_99^
[17:32] <tomasm-> hey, i have a wireless driver that's supported in quantal, but not 12.04 .... is that version ready yet? and how would I upgrade?
[17:32] <ENIACz> anybody now,where steam have final folder with,apps,system files,user files etc ??
[17:32] <jente> levante
[17:32] <bobweaver> what is the name os woopsie so I can file bug against it
[17:33] <bobweaver> aka ubuntu-bug woopsie
[17:33] <jente> BluesKaj: i think pulseaudio does a great job now, because it didn't give me any trouble in my previous ubuntu and the quality was not bad
[17:34] <tomasm-> is ubuntu 12.10 still in beta?
[17:34] <IdleOne> yes
[17:34] <DrooidKun> Yeah
[17:34] <DrooidKun> I'm downloading the iso for it :D
[17:34] <jente> BluesKaj: I am still testing right now but it seems that sound quality is a whole lot better with a real soundcard (sb live!)
[17:34] <tomasm-> how do i upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10? do i need to download the whole iso again?
[17:34] <IdleOne> !12.10
[17:35] <DrooidKun> When it's out, it should be something like sudo apt-dist upgrade in the terminal
[17:35] <jente> if I don't run into any trouble, I will stick with alsa for now, otherwise I will not hesitate and get puleaudio
[17:35] <BluesKaj> jente, well if you're using the analog output then pulseaudio is another layer of audio processing which degrades the audio quality somewhat , doing 2 digital processes instead of just one thru alsa
[17:35] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | DrooidKun no
[17:35] <DrooidKun> holy shit what
[17:36] <DrooidKun> eh
[17:36] <IdleOne> !language | DrooidKun
[17:36] <carroarm1to0> Is it possible to sync an ubuntu 12.04 iso to 12.04.1 by using zsync?
[17:36] <DrooidKun> !upgrade
[17:36] <DrooidKun> mother of god this channel
[17:36] <jente> BluesKaj: I might be wrong about that but I believe pulseaudio yielded better quality than alsa did on the same machine.
[17:37] <ramprasadgk> can someone give link to download pirated windows
[17:37] <bazhang> ramprasadgk, NO
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> ramprasadgk  wrong channel
[17:37] <bazhang> !piracy | ramprasadgk
[17:37] <tomasm-> how do i unpack a .deb file in the current directory, such as if i just need to extract one file without installing the whole thing?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> ramprasadgk  try #fbi
[17:37] <ramprasadgk> ok
[17:38] <ramprasadgk> no problem guys
[17:38] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio can't run without alsa , it rides on top of it , but alsa can run just fine without pulse , except on websites , jente
[17:38] <ramprasadgk> keep it cool
[17:38] <theadmin> tomasm-: ar x something.deb data.tar.gz && tar xf data.tar.gz && rm data.tar.gz
[17:38] <ardchoille> tomasm-: right-click and "extract here" works for me
[17:38] <ramprasadgk> i will try some other channel
[17:38] <tomasm-> theadmin, so a deb file is just a tar file?
[17:38] <trism> tomasm-: dpkg-deb -x filename.deb /path/to/extract/to;
[17:38] <jente> BluesKaj: yes, I meant just plain alsa compared to pulseaudio on top of alsa
[17:38] <smw> tomasm-, yes, it is a compressed tar file
[17:39] <theadmin> tomasm-: No, it's an ar archive with a bunch of other stuff in it, the actual "contents" (i.e. files that package installs) are in the "data.tar.gz" part of the archive.
[17:39] <smw> theadmin, oh? I though it was a tar archive :-\
[17:39] <theadmin> smw: I don't understand the full structure myself, complicated much :/
[17:40] <jente> BluesKaj: if you like, I can report back to you on how sound is doing here
[17:40] <KenSharp> this was the only helpful clue to working out how to use aufs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109413/how-do-i-use-overlayfs  . solved.
[17:41] <smw> tomasm-, what I can tell you for sure is that a deb is just an archive with files that describe how to install the files
[17:41] <hubby> ?
[17:41] <elham_> SKHASKD
[17:41] <elham_> KBSBAS
[17:42] <elham_> PITAK
[17:42] <ardchoille> elham_: Something we can help you with?
[17:42] <theadmin> ardchoille: Generally ignoring anyone who constantly writes in caps is a good idea ;)
[17:43] <elham_> aya naon ardchoille?
[17:43] <msmith0957> i think i'm having some strange either ssl or general connection issue. in windows, everythings fine, but here in ubuntu several web pages appear 'offline' and i cant even log in to fbook chat, or aim for instance
[17:44] <hubby_> test
[17:44] <elham_> berbaring meraih mimpi
[17:44] <BluesKaj> jente, personally I use the spdif passthru with pulse using a m-audio pci card as card=0 , to the DAC on an audio amplifier and I also have the onboard audio setup/intel hda and it feeds thru the hdmi out to our tv , altho I don't use that one much
[17:44] <menturi> Hello. I am a relatively new user of Ubuntu 12.04 and think i am having mouse theme issues; It appears to be white while it is a normal pointer cursor, but is black when using the resize icon, and maybe others too. Is this normal behavior?
[17:44] <bazhang> !id | elham_
[17:44] <hubby_> can I ask something ?
[17:44] <k1l> hubby_: just ask
[17:44] <IdleOne> hubby_: Please do
[17:45] <ardchoille> menturi: I have the same here, I think it's the normal default theme
[17:47] <msmith0957> actualy i just noticed that my wlan0 appears to only have an ipv6 connection, how do i make it (also) use ipv4 ?
[17:47] <menturi> ardchoille: that makes me feel better; thanks.
[17:47] <hubby_> i've update my ubuntu 12.04 but after that when i log in after restart, there some error and stoped when startup
[17:47] <hubby_> how can i do ?
[17:47] <neglesaks> msmith0957, enable the checkbox saying IPv4 must be confiures to use the connection (or how it is worded)
[17:48] <msmith0957> i'm assuming my ssl connections arent working properly over ipv6
[17:48] <theadmin> msmith0957: Right-click the Network Manager's icon, choose "Edit Connections", find your WLAN, click Edit, go to the IPv4 tab, perform configuration as required by your ISP
[17:50] <sram> bekks cron worked
[17:50] <delpiero> ciao
[17:50] <delpiero> !list
[17:51] <sram> scp with password any idea ?? someone ??
[17:51] <theadmin> sram: What is your actual problem, what are you trying to do?
[17:52] <sram> i want to automate scp to copy files from local to remote server
[17:52] <sram> i dont want to use keypai
[17:52] <ramprasadgk> lguys
[17:52] <sram> *keypair
[17:52] <ramprasadgk> give me link to download windows pireted
[17:52] <glebihan> sram, why not
[17:52] <bazhang> ramprasadgk, stop it
[17:52] <theadmin> sram: Mount your ssh stuff as an sshfs to a folder and then simply copy as you would locally.
[17:53] <sram> what about scp with password like scp -B
[17:53] <sram> i will shell it
[17:54] <sram> i tried scp -B it did not work
[17:54] <theadmin> sram: I don't think there is a way for ssh to accept plaintext password (that'd be just plain insecure and silly)
[17:54] <jente> BluesKaj: spdif is a dream of mine, but I don't have the hardware for that
[17:54] <glebihan> sram, the proper way to handle this is to use keys, I can't see a reason not to use them
[17:54] <sram> theadmin ....host2.bakop.com will allow
[17:55] <sram> glebihan: why do u want me to share my pub key to a public unsecured ftp service
[17:55] <shomon> hi, I got a tt font and would like to install it so gimp can see it
[17:55] <shomon> how do I do it? Or so everything can see it...
[17:55] <Pici> sram: you know that you can create a new key just for this, right?
[17:55] <glebihan> sram, what's the problem with sharing the *public* key ??
[17:56] <adamsobotka> hi
[17:56] <xangua> shomon: double clic and the font installed should appear
[17:56] <sram> i feel its not secured to put it in .ssh of public ftp server which is not in my control
[17:57] <shomon> xangua, double click where?
[17:57] <hubby_> adamsobotka : Hi ?
[17:57] <glebihan> sram, you can share a public key with as many people as you want, changes nothing about security, there's a reason why it's called public
[17:57] <sram> Pici: i know i can use ssh keys
[17:57] <shomon> aah I see
[17:58] <shomon> it was in a zip, but it then opened in it's app thanks
[17:58] <sram> true its abt private key...though lil reluctant
[17:58] <sram> wanted to try scp if its designed to use with -B flag
[17:58] <sram> to supply password
[17:59] <glebihan> sram, the point is : using a key is *much* more secure than using a plaintext password in the command  would be
[18:02] <codephobic> hi
[18:02] <sram> got it keys are worth...anyways the scrpt will sit in my server
[18:03] <sram> i m not convinced with scp is not working with pass specify option....if its designed to supply pass
[18:05] <theadmin> sram: "scp -B" is for *preventing* the asking for password, using only keyfiles.
[18:05] <msmith09571> neglesaks: theadmin so i checked my config, its setup properly to accept an ip via dhcp from the router, i even tried checking the box saying that it must use ipv4, and also tried removing the saved configuration and starting fresh. no go. still only gives me an ipv6 address, no v4
[18:05] <theadmin> msmith09571: Sounds like something on the AP's side then
[18:06] <msmith09571> works fine from windows ? lol
[18:06] <theadmin> msmith09571: Hm, okay, that's convincing
[18:06] <msmith09571> i'm not sure what to try
[18:06] <theadmin> Neither am I, that's just weird
[18:06] <msmith09571> im thinking of disabling v6 from the router
[18:06] <msmith09571> no real need for it.. right ?
[18:07] <theadmin> msmith09571: Wouldn't know to be honest, we don't have IPv6 where I'm at :/
[18:07] <neglesaks> msmith09571, i agree with theadmin , its not your pcs fault...
[18:08] <msmith09571> not pcs fault that.. what
[18:08] <KenSharp> In bash echo -en "\e[01;34m" changes the colour of the output text, but in dash it just prints "-en \e[01;34m" which isn't great. Can a script be POSIX compliant and use output colours?
[18:09] <jrib> KenSharp: try #bash
[18:09] <KenSharp> ?
[18:09] <jrib> KenSharp: there is a channel #bash
[18:09] <KenSharp> ah
[18:09] <LeMonkeyFace> guys
[18:09] <LeMonkeyFace> how do I rice?
[18:09] <bazhang> LeMonkeyFace, wrong channel
[18:10] <KenSharp> thanks jrib
[18:10] <theadmin> KenSharp: Sure. echo "$(tput setf 1)" (there are 8 colors over all, they have their own numbers. Replace setf with setb for background)
[18:10] <LeMonkeyFace> isn't this #ubuntu?
[18:10] <bazhang> LeMonkeyFace, ask a question that makes sense
[18:10] <LeMonkeyFace> how do I customise my desktop?
[18:10] <Cyclohexane> how do i install only php not web server? what packages do i need?
[18:10] <KenSharp> theadmin, that looks like what i need, i'll give it a go, thanks :)
[18:10] <LeMonkeyFace> what DE looks nicest?
[18:10] <bazhang> !themes > LeMonkeyFace
[18:11] <IdleOne> LeMonkeyFace: try them all and decide what you like best
[18:11] <LeMonkeyFace> thanks
[18:11] <theadmin> Cyclohexane: Uh, you would need just "php5" I'd think
[18:12] <theadmin> Though, it seems they put Apache in dependencies. Weird choice.
[18:13] <CTLwm> LeMonkeyFace: I know where you are from LOL
[18:13] <theadmin> CTLwm: Please, not here.
[18:13] <drupin> rvm
[18:13] <drupin> CatKiller_: /usr/share/ruby-rvm/README: No such file or directory
[18:14] <drupin> on typing rvm i i get that
[18:14] <drupin> no such file or dir
[18:16] <stefans> hi
[18:16] <sram> how abt this valid ???  scp /tmp/def.txt user:pass!123@remotehost:/tmp/
[18:16] <stefans> hi
[18:16] <WayneJetSki> Hello everyone
[18:17] <stefans> hello
[18:17] <theadmin> sram: No, the syntax is user@host:directory, there's *no way for scp to accept plaintext password*. Give up.
[18:17] <lacrymology> how do I know who maintains a .deb package?
[18:17] <stefans> i don't no
[18:18] <Pici> lacrymology: it says so in apt-cache show
[18:18] <theadmin> lacrymology: apt-cache show packagename | grep -i maintainer
[18:18] <ardchoille> lacrymology: dpkg -p package
[18:18] <sram> ok cool perhaps so some notworking posts wasted my time on scp research :)
[18:18] <stefans> hrllo
[18:18] <stefans> hello
[18:19] <lacrymology> thanks
[18:19] <bazhang> stefans, ubuntu support question?
[18:19] <sram> i would give a shot with sshmnt secondary option to transfer files ...but i have used that b4
[18:21] <bruce2> hi everyone; i got a problem with single mode  - it's 1.98-1ubuntu13 and when I try to boot into single mode by pressing "e" on main line I get another window with "recordfail" and many more lines. How can I reset the password on this? thank
[18:22] <sram> so sshmt is just one time stuff .. i can mount the ftp space on top of my local backup dir ??
[18:22] <stefans_> hello
[18:22] <truexfan404> if this is off topic i apologize, but do any of you have an opinion about libquvi?
[18:23] <Pici> truexfan404: an opinion on it?
[18:24] <truexfan404> how was that question not clear?
[18:24] <melkor> I'm using gnome-shell and there isn't an option for creating a vpn connection anymore. Does anybody know where I can find it?
[18:24] <lacrymology> it says maintainer Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> Original-Maintainer: Miriam Ruiz <little_miry@yahoo.es>
[18:24] <lacrymology> it says maintainer Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> Original-Maintainer: Miriam Ruiz <little_miry@yahoo.es>
[18:24] <truexfan404> Pici: i like libquvi, i just wish they would fix the justin.tv script
[18:24] <lacrymology> sorry
[18:24] <bruce2> I am trying to reset root password but system won't drop to root shell as it's asking password - what should I do to get access?
[18:25] <lacrymology> so where do I file a bug for that? ubuntu.com?
[18:25] <jrib> !password | bruce2
[18:25] <gordonjcp> bruce2: also, don't set a root passowrd
[18:25] <truexfan404> anyway that is going off topic so i will shutup about it
[18:25] <gordonjcp> *password
[18:25] <Pici> truexfan404: This is a support channel, I expected a support question. And it seems to work for my own uses through cclive, but I don't use justin.tv
[18:25] <theadmin> lacrymology: If it's an official Ubuntu package, just run "ubuntu-bug packagename" to file a bug
[18:26] <bruce2> I need to get access to this ubuntu server
[18:26] <bruce2> i don't know the username and password
[18:26] <bruce2> sorry, I don't understand
[18:26] <bruce2> recovery mode is asking me for root password for maintainence or Control-D
[18:26] <menturi> Hello. In Ubuntu 12.04, is there a way or program which can show all the workspaces constantly at the same time (like in the top panel thing) with a small preview of what programs are visible in the workspaces?
[18:27] <jrib> bruce2: read the link ubottu gave you
[18:27] <bruce2> but single mode gives me another error, "recordfail" page
[18:28] <theadmin> bruce2: Edit the kernel line to say whatever it says now, but add "init=/bin/bash"
[18:28] <jrib> bruce2: that's fine, it should say that
[18:28] <theadmin> bruce2: When you get into the shell, run "mount -o remount,rw /" and do whatever it is you need
[18:28] <bruce2> I can't get into the shell
[18:28] <bruce2> I don't have this line to edit "init=/bin/bash"
[18:28] <jrib> bruce2: why...?
[18:28] <unsobill> Hello, perhaps here is some help
[18:29] <theadmin> bruce2: It's in GRUB... the kernel line...
[18:29] <jrib> bruce2: you edit the line that starts with "kernel"
[18:29] <unsobill> I have avi video that has black screen and flickers
[18:29] <bruce2> no "kernel" at all
[18:29] <theadmin> jrib: Correction, it starts with "linux" nowadays I think
[18:29] <unsobill> tried opening it with vlc and media player - same results
[18:29] <unsobill> is there fix for that
[18:29] <bruce2> on main GNU GRUB page I have "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-43-server"
[18:29] <bruce2> I "edit" that line
[18:29] <luist> hey guys… what folder can i put a .desktop so it will appear on the Desktop of every user??
[18:29] <bruce2> and I get a new page and new window
[18:29] <jrib> theadmin: yes, I think you are correct
[18:30] <jrib> bruce2: stop talking, and read what we tell you
[18:30] <bruce2> that says:
[18:30] <bruce2> k
[18:30] <bruce2> no line with kernel
[18:30] <jrib> bruce2: as theadmin pointed out, your line may start with "linux" instead
[18:31] <bruce2> yes I see that
[18:31] <unsobill> what is most popular codec bunde for ubuntu
[18:31] <unsobill> is there klite or something
[18:31] <jrib> bruce2: ok, so modify that line
[18:31] <theadmin> bruce2: Mine looks like this: linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic root=UUID=95b711a2-ccf3-4799-aaec-b2dfcc03d0c9 ro   quiet splash
[18:31] <theadmin> unsobill: One normally just installs "ubuntu-restricted-extras" from the repos and that's that
[18:31] <bruce2> mine is like, "linux /vmlinux-2.6................"
[18:31] <bruce2> and I see the username there too
[18:32] <bruce2> I think
[18:32] <bruce2> line is ending with "ro \" is that right?
[18:32] <unsobill> theadmin doing it now
[18:32] <theadmin> bruce2: Yes, that looks like the right one, just add "init=/bin/bash" to the end of it
[18:33] <bruce2> but right under it I have, "  quiet"
[18:33] <unsobill> theadmin, shit my video still flickers :(
[18:33] <bruce2> so I am wondering if end of line is after "  quiet" ?
[18:33] <theadmin> unsobill: That might not have anything to do with codecs
[18:33] <unsobill> its that avi file im trying to view
[18:33] <unsobill> :/
[18:33] <theadmin> unsobill: Video drivers maybe
[18:33] <bruce2> also the last line is, "initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-43-server"
[18:33] <unsobill> weird really because no other video doing that
[18:33] <unsobill> like mov playing fine
[18:34] <theadmin> bruce2: Doesn't really matter where you add the init thing, long as it's on the linux line, but yes, you should probably add it after "quiet"
[18:34] <theadmin> unsobill: Oh, okay then, um... Corrupted file?
[18:34] <unsobill> plays fine under win hmmm
[18:34] <theadmin> unsobill: What media player do you use?
[18:34] <bruce2> without quotes "" right?
[18:34] <unsobill> both vlc and media player build in gnome3
[18:35] <theadmin> bruce2: Right, no quotes
[18:35] <unsobill> "movie player"
[18:35] <bruce2> theadmin: k, so now do I press Ctrl-C?
[18:35] <theadmin> unsobill: Hm... Not sure at all
[18:35] <theadmin> bruce2: Not sure, whatever it asks you to press to boot
[18:35] <unsobill> installing gnome mplayer maybe it fix it
[18:35] <theadmin> bruce2: I'm not too familiar with grub2
[18:35] <bruce2> Ctrol-X
[18:35] <bruce2> u r a genius :-)
[18:35] <theadmin> unsobill: Well if VLC fails then it's quite likely that everything will
[18:35] <unsobill> dude
[18:36] <unsobill> gnome pmplayer plays it fine
[18:36] <bruce2> theadmin: ^^^^
[18:36] <bruce2> theadmin: k, i dropped to shell
[18:36] <unsobill> fuk me :)
[18:36] <theadmin> unsobill: Oh okay then, crazy
[18:36] <bruce2> theadmin: passwd root?
[18:36] <crazydip> what's the naming convention for packages that are updated from a SCM (git/bzr)? do i keep the last valid version # and add +<scm name>.<date> like sudo-1.0+git.20121004?
[18:36] <theadmin> bruce2: Great, now this: mount -o remount,rw /
[18:36] <theadmin> bruce2: After that, "passwd username", and never use the root account directly
[18:36] <luyang> Hey is it possible to convert an Ubuntu installation into Mint?
[18:36] <theadmin> luyang: No
[18:37] <luyang> theadmin: ok fair enough... which one is better and why? :)
[18:37] <bruce2> theadmin: how do I find the username? cat /etc/shadow   ?
[18:37] <theadmin> luyang: I'd say Ubuntu's better nowadays, Mint uses weird sets of software and is generally "slow" to provide the updates
[18:37] <theadmin> bruce2: Just add a user lols, "adduser somebody"
[18:38] <luyang> theadmin: that makes sense as they're also slow to reply on their irc channel...
[18:38] <ska> Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
[18:38] <ska> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-31-generic-pae /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-31-generic-pae
[18:38] <ska> : Unable to find an initial ram disk that I know how to handle.
[18:38] <ska> Will not try to make an initrd.
[18:38] <ska> Is this going to break grub?
[18:38] <ska> or the boot loader?
[18:38] <{linux-bit> salutare
[18:39] <{linux-bit> e cineva din bacau pe aici?
[18:39] <theadmin> luyang: Yeah, support is another good thing in Ubuntu. Also this is kinda offtopic (this is for support only), if you'd like to discuss distros PM me, I'll find just the right one for you (I tried like every modern one)
[18:39] <Doxin> pressure sensitivity on my wacom tablet seems to be rather binary, is this a known problem? is there a solution?
[18:39] <CRealKiller175> sup everyone
[18:39] <bruce2_> theadmin: sorry, got dc
[18:39] <chris_99> how come apt-get install gcc-4.7-base doesn't install gcc-4.7
[18:39] <bruce2_> theadmin: so, how do I know the main username?
[18:39] <theadmin> bruce2_: Okay, my suggestion was to simply add a user: adduser somebody
[18:39] <BluesKaj> 1ro | {linux-bit
[18:40] <ardchoille> !ro | {linux-bit
[18:40] <BluesKaj> !ro | {linux-bit
[18:40] <theadmin> bruce2_: After that, make sure to also give that user admin rights: gpasswd -a somebody admin
[18:40] <{linux-bit> mersi ubottu
[18:40] <theadmin> bruce2_: And finally, lock the root account: usermod -L root
[18:41] <bruce2_> theadmin: k let me do this step by step
[18:41] <tryy3|Coding> how can i check how much memory i got left on my ubuntu?
[18:42] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: Do you mean HD space or RAM?
[18:42] <tryy3|Coding> HD space
[18:42] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: For HD, "df -h", for RAM, "free -m"
[18:42] <tryy3|Coding> ok thanks
[18:42] <bruce2_> theadmin: adding new user now, asking me for room number. what is that?
[18:43] <theadmin> bruce2_: Oh, that's just finger info, you can put anything in there or even leave it blank
[18:43] <theadmin> bruce2_: It's not critical -- it's displayed by various apps such as GNOME's user info tool
[18:44] <bruce2_> theadmin: perfect, all worked. Now what does lock the root user means?
[18:44] <theadmin> bruce2_: lock? Well, that command will disable direct root logins (they're not secure)
[18:44] <bruce2_> lock it so that even a local user can't login?
[18:44] <k1l> tryy3|Coding: is this gonna be a running gag, or smth?
[18:44] <bruce2_> got it
[18:44] <bruce2_> so now, how do I find the old admin user to delete it?
[18:44] <bruce2_> any command to get list of all admin users?
[18:45] <sayres> hi.how can I install virtualbox 4.2 in ubuntu 12.4???
[18:45] <jrib> theadmin: does usermod also delete the password?  I remember at some point recovery mode not working properly if root's password hash just had a '!' in front of it instead of being replaced by '!'.  « passwd -dl root » should work though
[18:45] <menturi> Hello. Is there something similar to this http://cloudfront.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Selection_0021.png for Ubuntu 12.04 (with Unity).
[18:45] <thepreacher> #conky
[18:45] <theadmin> jrib: No, "usermod -L" just puts a ! in front of the hash, so that you can unlock it by "usermod -U" anytime
[18:45] <jrib> bruce2_: getent group admin; getent group sudo
[18:46] <theadmin> jrib: Good point though, never realized that it'd break things
[18:46] <k1l> sayres: load the .deb file from their homepage?
[18:46] <tryy3|Coding> k1l what you mean?
[18:46] <bruce2_> jrib: I only use the user I just created and next line, "sudo:x:27:"
[18:47] <bruce2_> that does mean that previously user "root" was used?
[18:47] <bruce2_> *as admin*
[18:47] <jrib> bruce2_: was anyone in the "admin" group?
[18:47] <theadmin> bruce2_: Depending on who mantained the server, it's possible they activated the root account (although that's seriously a bad idea)
[18:47] <sayres> k1l:sorry dude.Im from iran I cant download this.how can i install other way?
[18:47] <bruce2_> jrib: yes, I think it's "master_user" that is there
[18:48] <k1l> tryy3|Coding: nvm, just wondering why you keep asking that question over and over again
[18:48] <theadmin> k1l: People tend to re-ask when they don't get answers
[18:48] <tryy3|Coding> k1l i forgot :D
[18:48] <bruce2_> theadmin & jrib : thanks a lot ; you guys rock
[18:48] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin i got the answer earlier today
[18:49] <bruce2_> do I just issue reboot or exit now?
[18:49] <tryy3|Coding> but i needed the command again
[18:49]  * jrib high-fives theadmin
[18:49] <k1l> sayres: you could look out for an PPA
[18:49]  * theadmin high-fives jrib back
[18:49] <tryy3|Coding> k1l atleat this time i tried to scroll up but it wasn't in my history
[18:49] <tryy3|Coding> atleast*
[18:50] <zgr> hello, I'm running ubuntu live dvd on pc1 for data recovery purposes, now it copies files to pc2 via samba, It has teamviewer installed but i lost connection to it, is there any running service with wich I can get access to running live dvd?
[18:50] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: Make this your wallpaper: http://www.linuxstall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/linux-command-line-cheat-sheet.png
[18:50] <Guest2523> hey guys anyone successfully getting their chrome notifications via libnotify?
[18:50] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin thanks :D
[18:51] <k1l> sayres: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/virtualbox.org_contrib  BUT its third party packages. be aware of that
[18:51] <fn0rd> On my multi-monitor setup, I disabled the toolbar that pops up on the left side of the screen, on all screens but the main screen. I have also tweaked the values in ccsm. However, there is still resistance applied to the mouse pointer when I attempt to drag it across my monitors. Any tips on how to resolve this? Perhaps it is a ccsm setting that I missed? Please only answer if you have a multiple monitor setup. Thanks.
[18:52] <fn0rd> PS: I'm using unity.
[18:52] <k4r1m> I need to a tool to select the best mirrors server without using "ping", IT policy... anyway is there such a tool?
[18:53] <trism> fn0rd: ccsm on the unity plugin, experimental tab, checkbox at the bottom, launcher captures the mouse, uncheck
[18:53] <sayres> k1l:tnx dude
[18:53] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin oh -h just makes the commands show the memory in mb/gb ?
[18:54] <fn0rd> trism: hmm, strangely it is already unchecked. It works for you though?
[18:54] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: Yeah, more readable
[18:54] <tryy3|Coding> ah
[18:54] <bruce2_> thank u again ; bye
[18:54] <zgr> is there any way to access running ubuntu live cd(dvd) over lan? without installing openssh-server on it
[18:54] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: Stands for "Human-readable"
[18:54] <jrib> zgr: no, I don't see how
[18:54] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin makes sence :D
[18:54] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: Generally, "man command" will give you help on any command
[18:54] <trism> fn0rd: don't have it set up at the moment, let me take a look, one sec
[18:55] <jrib> zgr: well, you could intall some other sort of server on it... like vnc or something
[18:55] <fn0rd> trism: I see now: when I check this option you told me about, there is resistance going left to right, and right to left, where the left is my main monitor.
[18:55] <fn0rd> If I have it unchecked, the resistance is only applied going right to left.
[18:55] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin man = manuall?
[18:55] <tryy3|Coding> or how ever it spells
[18:55] <ardchoille> tryy3|Coding: yes
[18:55] <theadmin> jrib: Ubuntu comes with a VNC server already, it's called... uhhh... "Remote"... something :/
[18:55] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: manual, yes
[18:56] <tryy3|Coding> ardchoille ah
[18:56] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin ok will try that
[18:56] <theadmin> jrib: I think it's vino, the binary name that is
[18:56] <zgr> jrib: is there any list of default running services on livecd like avahi,dhcp client etc
[18:56] <jrib> zgr: see theadmin; as he says, vino is installed by default, but you still need to enable remote access on the machine
[18:56] <fn0rd> trism: got it
[18:56] <fn0rd> trism: i also set "Edge Stop Velocity" to 1
[18:56] <fn0rd> and now things are perfect.
[18:57] <fn0rd> both that option and your suggestion were instrumental. thank you for the help
[18:57] <theadmin> jrib: "she", please >.<
[18:57] <jrib> theadmin: got it :)
[18:57] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin that picture is to big for my screen ;(
[18:57]  * fn0rd drank the new coke (....unity)
[18:58] <theadmin> tryy3|Coding: Well googling "bash cheatsheet" may help find a similar one (anyway this is no longer really support so we should cut this chatter)
[18:58] <tryy3|Coding> theadmin ok will check it later thanks
[18:59] <trism> fn0rd: odd I don't notice any resistance with just that option unchecked (but this is also 12.10 so maybe different), glad you figured it out
[18:59] <Simplew> i have created an encrypted lvm and installed ubuntu quantzal beta 2 in it, however when booting it does NOT asks for the password to open the encrypted container, seams it does not read /etc/crypttab, can anyone tell whats going on?
[19:00] <osama> Hello
[19:00] <osama> anyone here
[19:00] <fn0rd> trism: ah
[19:00] <osama> can I install starcraft 2 on linux ubuntu
[19:00] <fn0rd> I'm on  12.04.1 LTS
[19:00] <fn0rd> that's probably why
[19:01] <osama> can I install starcraft 2 on linux ubuntu
[19:01] <osama> Hello
[19:01] <ardchoille> !patience | osama
[19:01] <theadmin> osama: General answer: No. More elaborate answer: go to #winehq.
[19:02] <osama> ok thank you
[19:03] <osama> can any of you hack into my linux ubuntu using my ip or can into my window using my ip?
[19:03] <mr-rich> quick grep question: How do I get grep to stop after the first hit?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Simplew,  The 12.10 channel is #ubuntu+1
[19:03] <fn0rd> mr-rich: grep foo | head -n1
[19:03] <jrib> mr-rich: man grep  scroll to --max-count
[19:04] <fn0rd> it won't actually stop grep
[19:04] <lacrymology> osama: you really don't want unknown people hacking into your linux
[19:04] <fn0rd> oh, jrib pwned my answer. Never mind.
[19:04] <crazydip> osama: if you have any open ports then it's possible (ubuntu should not have any open by default)
[19:04] <Simplew> wilee-nilee: and im there, but no one answers any
[19:04] <osama> kool thanks alot
[19:05] <Simplew> i just reinstalled ubuntu and the file /etc/crypttab does NOT exist!!!
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Simplew, Ah bummer well that is the policy, but treat that as you will. ;)
[19:05] <osama> what if my ports are closed can someone stilll do it
[19:06] <mr-rich> fn0rd, jrib: ty
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Simplew, Just in case you need it there is also ##linux, you never know if you will get answers here. ;)
[19:06] <Simplew> i just reinstalled ubuntu and the file /etc/crypttab does NOT exist!!! and the package is installed by default, how can this be???
[19:07] <Simplew> package cryptsetup is installed by default and the file /etc/crypttab does not exist
[19:07] <osama> can someone remove people leaving the chat and joining the chat it's just annoying
[19:08] <ardchoille> osama: you can hide join/part messages
[19:08] <crazydip> osama: you need to do that in your irc client. if you can't - get a better one
[19:08] <Like> hi guys i made a song for a one girl download at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wgt1qrdmgffjezh/hJ2gjLt12V
[19:08] <osama> god it thanks
[19:08] <osama> GOOD it thanks***
[19:09] <Like> soo Sting helps
[19:09] <osama> crazydip how do I get my colour red like yours
[19:10] <crazydip> osama: uhh... your client controls colors :) i have no idea what color's you see and it's definitely not what i see
[19:10] <mknarr> osma     like this      /msg crazydip (enter message)
[19:10] <ardchoille> osama: that happens when you highlight a nick
[19:11] <machicola> is there a way to go about finding out what is the CLI command for a specific program or app?
[19:11] <ardchoille> machicola: type: "which app" without quotes
[19:11] <theadmin> machicola: It normally matches the app name, the command for Firefox is "firefox"
[19:11] <theadmin> machicola: If you mean the full path, see what ardchoille said
[19:12] <crazydip> osama: you wanted to install StarCraft 2 right? try here: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-661-Starcraft_II_Wings_of_Liberty.html
[19:12] <osama> wow thanks man you're the best
[19:12] <crazydip> osama: and try here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[19:12] <fn0rd>  /ignore -channels #chan * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[19:12] <ebergen> can't wait for hots
[19:12] <fn0rd> in irssi
[19:12] <Bored_Panda_Of_A> I love IRC, finds SC2 on Linux, didn't even ask and have something I needed.
[19:13] <machicola> ok thanks, i guess somethin weird is goin on .... google earth crashing but which not returning anything
[19:13] <crazydip> Bored_Panda_Of_A: you're welcome :D
[19:14] <theadmin> Bored_Panda_Of_A: That's not a real port, by the way, just a PlayOnLinux installer (playonlinux is a pretty nifty frontend to wine, but just that)
[19:14] <Bored_Panda_Of_A> Protoss just seems sad in hots. Terran seems like Battle hellions are going to roll all of zerg, and zerg is just going to kill everything. theadmin: I am aware.
[19:14] <sram> is there a way to enter custom msg  while joining and leaving irc ? theadmin??
[19:15] <theadmin> sram: Depends on your client.
[19:15] <crazydip> theadmin: little more than frontend though they include patches and scripts to install stuff from what i know (i dont use it)
[19:15] <theadmin> crazydip: For known apps yes, but the database is still quite small
[19:15] <Bored_Panda_Of_A> Hopefully Blizz doesn't roll ban us all again for using wine.
[19:15] <crazydip> theadmin: ok, like i said, i don't do wine :)
[19:16] <sram> theadmin ref pm
[19:17] <theadmin> sram: I'm going to put you on my ignore list instead since you have to ask for permissions before PMing people. That was just rude.
[19:18] <Schrijver44> quit
[19:19] <Bored_Panda_Of_A> Protoss just seems sad in hots. Terran seems like Battle hellions are going to roll all of zerg, and zerg is just going to kill everything. theadmin: I am aware.
[19:19] <sram> did not know that
[19:19] <sram> the adm
[19:19] <theadmin> Bored_Panda_Of_A: You said that already and I have no idea what you're talking about.
[19:20] <ardchoille> theup arrow key bit him
[19:20] <dgsafewright> has anyone tried installing ubuntu 12.04.1 on a lenovo thinkcentre m92p tiny?
[19:20] <sram> theadmin any help with custom msg
[19:21] <osama> I got ubuntu install on my pc it;s really fast, good for borrowing but I don't know what else to do with it
[19:21] <Guest85533> Hey all. I've been trying to deal with a problem for a few weeks now.  Does anyone know about / have any experience with openchrome drivers and via chipsets?
[19:21] <ardchoille> osama: ubuntuis good for everything. I've used nothing but Ubuntu since 2001 on all of my computers
[19:21] <mknarr> osama, use it for whatever watching videos surfing the web
[19:21] <DanStamp> and I should log in so I actually have a name.. That was me just now.
[19:22] <ardchoille> s/2001/2005/
[19:22] <OerHeks> dgsafewright, with Intel GMA 4000 ?
[19:22] <dgsafewright> yes
[19:22] <mknarr> I would switch completely over to ubuntu but the lack of game support is what is stopping me
[19:22] <dgsafewright> my current computer has intel gma 3000 and works fine
[19:22] <crazydip> osama: learn how linux works, learn how servers work, learn to program, learn about security, whatever fancies you
[19:23] <DanStamp> I've actually posted a more specific rundown on the problem on the ubuntu forums, but I really don't know where to look for help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12277600#post12277600
[19:23] <OerHeks> dgsafewright, intel, maybe the xswat ppa is any help, updated driver > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[19:23] <osama> thanks guys you guys are the best
[19:23] <dgsafewright> thank you derheks
[19:23] <crazydip> osama: and of course web developement, whether basic website design to advanced stuff all done on linux (unless you're wacky) - most of the web runs on linux so that's a start and it's all free to use and to modify
[19:24] <machicola> anyone know how to run google earth for ubuntu from the command line, off the top of their head.... tryin to figure out why im gettin crashes
[19:24] <theadmin> machicola: "google-earth", I'd think.
[19:24] <osama> can I host my website using this server
[19:24] <osama> I have domain but I don;t want to pay for the hosting
[19:24] <theadmin> osama: Sure
[19:24] <crazydip> osama: sure
[19:24] <ardchoille> osama: sure, I host mine with ubuntu
[19:24] <osama> wow nice
[19:24] <machicola> nice, that was it ... thanks theadmin
[19:25] <osama> so if my computer is on the site will work if my computer is off the site won;t work?
[19:25] <machicola> guess its just a program bug
[19:25] <dgsafewright> the three options for wireless are intelN 105, intelN 2230, or vproN 6205
[19:25] <theadmin> osama: Kinda right, you'll have to keep it on all the time
[19:25] <ardchoille> osama: if the site is being served by your computer, yes
[19:25] <dgsafewright> I am thinking one of the three should work out of the box
[19:25] <osama> lol thanks got it
[19:25] <osama> thanks I'm gonna google it or can you guys guide me to host my site
[19:25] <crazydip> machicola: if you don't know, in the terminal just start typing a few letters and press tab it will show you all matches like: goog<tab> will show you google-earth, google, googles, etc. :D
[19:26] <osama> I have my domain already
[19:26] <crazydip> osama: ubuntu has an awesome server guide
[19:26] <crazydip> osama: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[19:26] <osama> Thank you : LOVE YOU ALL
[19:26] <machicola> oh nice, thanks crazydip
[19:27] <machicola> that is pretty sweet
[19:28] <darkham> how can uninstall with apt-get, the full number of packages installed with apt-get install metapackage?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> darkham: you could use rdepends to see the deps of a package
[19:29] <theseb> please HOW turn OFF virtual desktops in unity?  I JUST WANT ONE! :)
[19:29] <crazydip> does debian use an SCM for their code like bzr in ubuntu? git maybe?
[19:30] <darkham> ActionParsnip, in the case i type "apt-get install lxde", i install many packages, but if i type "apt-get autoremove lxde" i don't uninstall all the packages, only a minor number...
[19:30] <VonWhistler> folks i need help on setting up load balancing with LVS, for whatever reason ldirectord doest want to start because it doesnt see the config file, which i have placed at /etc/ha.d/conf/ldirectord.conf and it has 777 permissions
[19:31] <ardchoille> darkham: sudo apt-get remove --purge lxde
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> darkham: apt-rdepends sorry
[19:31] <axisys> my battery status on the top right corner icon is showing 17% all day.. what gives?
[19:31] <trism> theseb: ccsm, General Options, Desktop Size, set horizontal and vertical both to 1
[19:31] <ardchoille> darkham: autoremove is only to remove packages that are no longer being used
[19:31] <theseb> trism: thanks...what is ccsm?
[19:31] <mustansir> Hello everybody
[19:31] <trism> theseb: compizconfig-settings-manager (though ccsm on the command line after installed)
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> darkham: sudo apt-get --purge remove lxde; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:32] <theseb> trism: does this apply for unity2d ..i think i read you can't do that for unity2d?
[19:32] <theseb> trism: my desktop isn't 3d so i assume i have unity2d
[19:33] <trism> theseb: you can change the number of desktops there too, but I don't recall the option off the top of my head (something in gconf-editor for metacity I would guess)
[19:33] <crazydip> theseb: if you don't know what you are doing don't use ccsm its advanced and can easily ruin your unity
[19:33] <darkham> ActionParsnip, both, or they are similar for the same ?
[19:33] <crazydip> theseb: install myunity it's easier for new users then goto desktop option and change "h desktop" and "v desktop" to 1
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> darkham: try it, you can also install deborphan, see if it removes more
[19:34] <theseb> crazydip: great! thanks!
[19:34] <darkham> ActionParsnip, ok
[19:35] <theseb> Does unity3d mean you folks have one of those fancy desktop with the rotating cube?
[19:35] <tozen> theseb, yes
[19:35] <theseb> nice
[19:36] <machicola> is there any general consensus on whether the proprietary drivers, especially for the graphics cards, i have any ATI Mobility Radeon, are favorable? I'm gettin advice to uninstall those drivers (running Ubuntu 11.10) and its not the first time I've heard it, in order to get a program to work properly
[19:36] <crazydip> darkham: if autoremove does not work it's probably some insane metapackage like gnome, lxde, etc. you'll have to get a good list of packages and remove them by hand - if you lxde is the last thing you installed and you installed it from software center, go to your history and it will tell you every package that was installed
[19:36] <tozen> theseb, to configure Desktop Cube u need ccsm
[19:37] <crazydip> theseb: unity does not have cube on by default (just so you know)
[19:37] <theseb> k
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> do people still use the cube plugin? jeez
[19:38] <theseb> crazydip: myunity has no save option..i presume it autumagically saves like Google Docs? i guess you need to log out and log in for changes to take effect?
[19:38] <theseb> ActionParsnip: why what do you use?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> theseb: lxde mostly, but unity3d in Quantal pre-release to report bugs
[19:39] <crazydip> theseb: probably - i don't use it (although i do have it installed)
[19:39] <theseb> crazydip: i was right...looks like in unity2d on 12.04 you MUST have at least 2x2 :(
[19:40] <theseb> crazydip: http://mikelev.in/wp_super_faq/how-do-i-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:40] <crazydip> theseb: ok
[19:40] <theseb> crazydip: funny but i need to upgrade to 3d to be able to drop down to 1x1 :)
[19:40] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[19:40] <drewzini> Ok
[19:41] <crazydip> theseb: sounds stupid but i do remember there being some idiotic decision on that long ago
[19:41] <xVey> Hi everyone
[19:41] <theseb> lol
[19:41] <codephobic> hi, anyone in here using eclipse with the Android SDK (on Ubuntu 12.04)?
[19:42] <xVey> codephobic what do you need?
[19:42] <codephobic> I've tried once or twice, to install the SDK but ended up messing up my Java REs and all sorts
[19:42] <codephobic> xVey, just proof that it can be done really.
[19:42] <xVey> Oh
[19:42] <codephobic> lol
[19:42] <xVey> Well it is posible
[19:42] <codephobic> xVey, I've never experienced so many issues with something that should be quite trivial
[19:42] <xVey> yeah i know
[19:42] <xVey> I'm also kinda new to Ubuntu
[19:43] <xVey> and it's all much more complicated
[19:43] <xVey> you need to get use to it first
[19:43] <theseb> How "turn on unity 3d"?
[19:43] <xVey> Anyway
[19:43] <gordonjcp> codephobic: yes, it can be done
[19:43] <codephobic> It's annoying 'cos I managed to set it up without that much trouble in Debian (Squeeze), but I actually prefer working in Ubuntu so ... I really don't want to run both systems.
[19:43] <theseb> i guess i need to install "cube"?
[19:44] <crazydip> codemaniac: maybe because you are using 64bit while android sdk is compiled for 32-bit? just an idea i don't know
[19:44] <xVey> did you look for a tutorial step by step
[19:44] <xVey> ?
[19:44] <gordonjcp> if you can get it working in Squeeze you can get it working in Precise
[19:44] <theseb> I can't find tutorial on it
[19:44] <theseb> i'm on 12.04
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> theseb: i'd ask in #compiz  it's just a plugin
[19:44] <codephobic> xVey, yup, I followed the google guidelines and then tried "thirdparty" ones too
[19:44] <theseb> ActionParsnip: ah.ok...compiz is the name i presume..
[19:44] <xVey> Well than it's realy odd
[19:44] <gordonjcp> theseb: if your card does 3D acceleration then you're most likely using Unity 3D
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> theseb: same as what?
[19:44] <xVey> Is it really so different from debian?
[19:45] <codephobic> gordonjcp, well, I guess I'm going to try it out again tonight... I really want to get started on learning the sdk
[19:45] <theseb> ActionParsnip: *name*
[19:45] <crazydip> codephobic: : maybe because you are using 64bit while android sdk is compiled for 32-bit? just an idea i don't know
[19:45] <crazydip> codephobic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147400/problems-with-eclipse-and-android-sdk
[19:45] <theseb> gordonjcp: i am using unity3d..i just don't know how to use it
[19:45] <gordonjcp> codephobic: they're not *that* different
[19:45] <gordonjcp> theseb: click on stuff
[19:45] <codephobic> crazydip, yep 64/32 is one of the complications, but then Deb is also 64bit.
[19:45] <gordonjcp> theseb: type things in, where it seems appropriate
[19:45] <theseb> gordonjcp: i never see a rotating cube if that is what i should see
[19:46] <theseb> i read that echo $DESKTOP_SESSION will tell you if you got 3d
[19:46] <theseb> and i do
[19:46] <xVey> Can someone recomend me about a good book about ubuntu?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> !manual | xVey
[19:46] <xVey> i mean something like a toturial for beginners
[19:47] <gordonjcp> xVey: what do you want to learn how to do?
[19:47] <xVey> I know the basics
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> xVey  the best way to learn, is by using it
[19:47] <xVey> but i want to learn more abput linux and stuff
[19:48] <xVey> Yeah :D
[19:48] <gordonjcp> xVey: well, don't look for Ubuntu specifically then
[19:48] <gordonjcp> xVey: Linux is pretty much all the same
[19:48] <gordonjcp> it's changed a bit over time
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> xVey: then use it, have you used Windows a long time?
[19:48] <xVey> that what i was doing for the last couple of weeks
[19:48] <xVey> yeah i worked many years  with Windows
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> xVey: and did you ever use a book to learn what you know?
[19:48] <codephobic> gordonjcp, I don't suppose that they are but, in this instance I'm not having much luck. I'm going to try and install the SDK in a VM first. if I mess up, nothing lost.
[19:49] <xVey> Lol
[19:49] <xVey> i didn't
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> xVey: why not use the same process with Ubuntu then?
[19:49] <ezio> how can i set the ssh backspace key to connect to a unix system?
[19:49] <xVey> i guess you right
[19:49] <gordonjcp> codephobic: that's not a bad idea
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> People get so hung up on wanting books on Ubuntu and junk when they never read a windows book in their lives
[19:49] <xVey> but i wasn't realy interested to know a lot about Windows
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> makes no sense to me at all
[19:50] <xVey> But i do want to become an expert in linux
[19:50] <Bjo_et_Cie> hello
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  or a book at all ;)
[19:50] <hwilde> help why are my packets being marked as UFW AUDIT INVALID   and then UFW BLOCK
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> xVey: just use the OS, try and setup various things rather than just checking facebook etc, try different things, explore the OS
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: ha, books are good :)
[19:50] <xVey> Yeah that what i want to do
[19:50] <darkham> why apt-get can't uninstall all the packages of a metapackage installation...
[19:50] <xVey> but i don't realy know how
[19:50] <Bjo_et_Cie> anyone knows why the scrollbar in Xchat doesn't appear ?
[19:51] <xVey> I've never tried to mess up with Windows cause it sucks
[19:51] <hwilde> help why are my packets being marked as UFW AUDIT INVALID   and then UFW BLOCK
[19:51] <xVey> know when i got to worked with ubuntu
[19:51] <xVey> I'm thrilled to know how to do cool thing with it
[19:51]  * MonkeyDust has the book 'ubuntu linux toolbox'
[19:51] <crazydip> xVey: there's "Sams Ubuntu Unleashed 2012" but I don't know if it's good
[19:52] <crazydip> xVey: check amazon ratings
[19:52] <xVey> i did
[19:52] <xVey> couldn't find a real up to date book
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> xVey  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> xVey: just use the OS, there ae tonnes of guides online
[19:52] <crazydip> xVey: sams 2012 is based on 11.10 and 12.04 (current until 12.10 comes out in a few weeks)
[19:53] <codephobic> xVey, just think, next release of Windows - everybody will require a manual!
[19:53] <OerHeks> xVey, read the questions that come by here in #ubuntu, highly recommended to learn all new stuff ( and bugs)
[19:53] <hwilde> help why are my packets being marked as UFW AUDIT INVALID   and then UFW BLOCK
[19:53] <xVey> Ok
[19:53] <xVey> I'll try that
[19:53] <crazydip> xVey: but yeah, online info is amazing...
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[19:54] <xVey> looks nice
[19:54] <xVey> i'll read it later
[19:55] <Bjo_et_Cie> is any fix for scrollbar disapearing ?
[19:55] <codephobic> oh, btw what's a good terminal command for getting an accurate reading of memory usage? I use free -m but I remember seeing something along the lines of free -m | sed -n -e '3ps | grep ... something something :( I forgot the command, it felt reassuringly complicated :D
[19:56] <xVey> I've been told that ubuntu can be costumize quite easly
[19:56] <xVey> is that true?
[19:56] <OerHeks> any linux version is.
[19:56] <crazydip> codephobic: sed and grep just format (cut out) the output of free -m in your example
[19:57] <canadacow> exit
[19:57] <codephobic> crazydip, I thought that's what grep did.
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | codephobic
[19:57] <crazydip> xVey: if you know how to program (as in programming) not only can you do whatever you want on a program level such as install/remove/exchange whatever you want you can also modify the existing programs and write your own
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: explains the free -m output well
[19:58] <guntbert> !repeat | hwilde
[19:58] <crazydip> !sed | codephobic
[19:58] <crazydip> errr
[19:58] <crazydip> thats not about sed
[19:58] <codephobic> hehe
[19:58] <xVey> crazydip  yeah i know that
[19:58] <xVey> I know to program in java pretty well
[19:58] <xVey> buy that doesn't realy help me in linux
[19:59] <guntbert> !enter | xVey
[19:59] <Argorok> Hi, I installed ubuntu through wubi, there's an way to tell to wubi that the wubildr is in hd0,2? It always scan hd0,0 hd0,1 then, after 1 minute or so, hd0,2
[19:59] <sporkf> moin.
[19:59] <xVey> Ok Sorry
[20:00] <xVey> I've seen that ubuntu can be programmed in pyhton language is that what you ment by program the OS by myself?
[20:01] <ezio> ubuntu is written in qbasic
[20:01] <crazydip> ezio: lol
[20:01] <crazydip> (it's lies)
[20:01] <guntbert> !ot | ezio crazydip
[20:01] <sporkf> If I wanted to read the source code to a program.  Does ubuntu keep those after apt-geting them?
[20:02] <ezio> guntbert, that was well relevant
[20:02] <darkham> ActionParsnip, i tried --purge remove && --purge autoremove, but they don't unistalled all. i only uninstalled all with the paste of the package list on the apt-get install command. No proper option for uninstall all the dipendencies of a tried and unliked software?
[20:02] <ezio> in fact
[20:02] <ezio> that little spiel
[20:02] <ezio> was like 4 times as long as my stuff
[20:02] <crazydip> sporkf: if you install a package only binary is downloaded, to download source apt-get source <package name>
[20:02] <peppy> hey, is anyone able to shed some light on why my tmpfs /tmp mount is showing 3.3gb usage with only 3.3mb actually used (as far as i can tell)? http://puu.sh/1boX7.jpg
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> sporkf  use a chroot to do that, outside your system
[20:02] <Argorok> Hi, I installed ubuntu through wubi, there's an way to tell to wubi that the wubildr is in hd0,2? It always scan hd0,0 hd0,1 then, after 1 minute or so, hd0,2
[20:02] <guntbert> ezio: just stop those random comments please
[20:03] <hwilde> help why are my packets being marked as UFW AUDIT INVALID   and then UFW BLOCK
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> hwilde  ufw may be uncomplicated firewall
[20:04] <mac_12> I'd like to learn something about linux networking. Has anyone any suggestions (books, web tutorials)
[20:05] <crazydip> mac_12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetAndNetworking
[20:05] <sporkf> MonkeyDust: why ?
[20:05] <mac_12> crazydip: thanks a lot
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> darkham: does deborphan list the unneeded packages?
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sporkf  if you change program sources in a production environment, you may get problems
[20:05] <darkham> ActionParsnip, yes
[20:06] <hwilde> MonkeyDust, yes it stands for uncomplicated firewall thanks.  why is it auditing and blocking valid packets ?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> darkham: then run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[20:07] <darkham> ActionParsnip, no problem, i ask only to know, if "apt-get install metapackages" have a perfect rehersal
[20:08] <darkham> ActionParsnip, *reverse
[20:08] <crazydip> ActionParsnip: unless it has changed since a few years ago, using deborphan is a bad idea - it does not always work and when it does not you can be in trouble
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> darkham: not that I know of, I personally thing the postrm script in metapackages should remove the packages it installs
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> crazydip: not had an issue but its a !wfm thing. darkham said the packages were listed
[20:10] <Simplew> what handles /etc/crypttab ?
[20:12] <Simplew> package cryptsetup does not install the file /etc/crypttab
[20:12] <TankC> Hey all, I've somehow managed to get one of my windows positioned so that the titlebar is hidden above the top of my screen.. how can I grab the window to bring it back down? (ubuntu 12.10)
[20:12] <trism> TankC: alt+left click usually
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> TankC  ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:13] <TankC> trism, perfect, thanks!
[20:13] <terminhell> oh sai
[20:13] <crazydip> why does bzr branch ubuntu:<package> download quantal and not precise?
[20:14] <darkham> ActionParsnip, crazydip, thanx for your time :)
[20:14] <trism> crazydip: because it is the current dev version, if you want precise, bzr branch lp:ubuntu/precise/package
[20:15] <trism> crazydip: though the branches are kind of all over the place so you may not necessarily get what you want there
[20:15] <crazydip> trism: aye, makes sense though dev version is what's usually needed when fetching source not current stable
[20:17] <loging123> hhhhhhhhh
[20:21] <loging123> hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:21] <loging123> hhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:21] <loging123> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:21] <loging123> jhfhfh
[20:21] <loging123> jhvhvvvbcbncnbcnb
[20:21] <FloodBot1> loging123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:21] <OerHeks> !rootirc | loging123
[20:25] <loging123> http://192.168.1.9:8080/Pcyemd8CSD
[20:25] <loging123> http://192.168.1.9:8080/Pcyemd8CSD
[20:25] <loging123> ;y pictuer
[20:25] <FloodBot1> loging123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <ramchandra> hello :)
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> loging123: thats a private IP, no use here
[20:26] <OerHeks> loging123, sounds like malware
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> loging123: nobody can reach that
[20:26] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I have been trying to get decent fullscreen flash and html5 video support in Firefox on my Acer Aspire One netbook to not avail. It uses an AMD CPU/GPU with Radeon chipset, I've tried different drivers, versions of flash, 32, 64bits and no luck. Any advices ? Thanks a lot.
[20:27] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, loging123 is a BT user, i wouldn't use any url
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: its  private subnet so uncontactable from outside his/her LAN :)
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: but loging123 knew that </sarcasm>
[20:30] <lallenlowe> I created an SSH tunnel to a cloud server I have, I set it as the system wide socks proxy using the network preference pane. It works in chromium, how can I tell if it's working or not in Transmission? Any ideas?
[20:30] <lallenlowe> is transmission supposed to use system wide proxy settings?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> lallenlowe: I believe there is a setting in transmission for proxy
[20:41] <tryy3|Coding> hi i need some quick help with htop, when i type in htop and wanna kill a process, it first looks like this http://puu.sh/1bpHP then i press F9 to kill it and this happens http://puu.sh/1bpIp then i press enter and it wont kill the process! please help
[20:41] <jhonnyboy> hey all, I'm testing out ftp between two VMs and having issues. I'm hosting my ftp server on my linux VM and trying to access it thru Windows XP but I keep getting incorrect password. I've changed the password numerous amounts of times…any idea what this could be?
[20:41] <confusedTom> how do I make desktop environments not interfere with each other? examples: 1) autostart certain programs only with xfce, not with kde. 2) prevent kde from changing my xfce theme settings (why and how does it do that? every time I log in kde and then later in xfce, my theme is set to oxigen-gtk and not greybird).
[20:41] <gordonjcp> jhonnyboy: it's probably been broken into
[20:42] <gordonjcp> jhonnyboy: don't use ftp, use scp or sftp
[20:42] <jhonnyboy> gordonjcp: I'm running it on an internal network
[20:42] <gordonjcp> jhonnyboy: oh well, that's safe enough ;-)
[20:42] <jhonnyboy> gordonjcp: lol :) im so fustrated
[20:42] <hariom> I have taken a hosting service and I have been informed to provide 1Mbps connection. But I never get speed beyond 90Kbps (Ideally it should reach upto 128Kbps). How can I ask the hosting provider without sharing the server password to test the speed?
[20:42] <gordonjcp> but generally use sftp
[20:43] <jhonnyboy> can't figure it out, I saw it open on ipv4/6 so i disabled the 6 incase it was conflicting
[20:43] <jhonnyboy> but no luck
[20:45] <Amslor> join #odysee
[20:47] <tryy3|Coding> hi i need some quick help with htop, when i type in htop and wanna kill a process, it first looks like this http://puu.sh/1bpHP then i press F9 to kill it and this happens http://puu.sh/1bpIp then i press enter and it wont kill the process! please help
[20:47] <hariom> I have taken a hosting service and I have been informed to provide 1Mbps connection. But I never get speed beyond 90Kbps (Ideally it should reach upto 128Kbps). How can I ask the hosting provider without sharing the server password to test the speed?
[20:48] <delinquentme> is there any way to recover history in BASH after its been deleted?
[20:48] <Simplew> what the GUI that handles ubuntu services?
[20:48] <darkham> if i've a /home/user in a separate hd, and i want to reinstall ubuntu and create the same name user, /home/user content will be overwrite?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Simplew: you can manage them easil in terminal
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Simplew: sudo service name stop|start|status
[20:50] <Simplew> ActionParsnip: the gui
[20:51] <lallenlowe> darkham no it won't, as long as you don't choose to format that partition in the installer
[20:52] <lallenlowe> ActionParsnip: not that I could find
[20:53] <darkham> lallenlowe, i chose in the manual partition manager during installation, the right partition, and i set it as /home, then i create a user with the same old name, and the installer will use the folder with the previous rights?
[20:53] <tryy3|Coding> hi i need some quick help with htop, when i type in htop and wanna kill a process, it first looks like this http://puu.sh/1bpHP then i press F9 to kill it and this happens http://puu.sh/1bpIp then i press enter and it wont kill the process! please help
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> lallenlowe: so not under the network tab?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> lallenlowe: actually there is a proxy tab...
[20:57] <suporte_> eu tô ligado q vc tá aki !
[20:58] <suporte_> vou sair !
[20:58] <suporte_> flws
[20:58] <suporte_> \desconect
[20:58] <suporte_> \exit
[20:59] <suporte_> #
[20:59] <suporte_> #exit
[20:59] <suporte_> ?
[20:59] <suporte_> sair
[20:59] <k1l> /exit        suporte_
[20:59] <suporte_> #como sai ?
[21:00] <suporte_> vlws
[21:05] <twit> What is the optimal file system for Ubuntu?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> twit: depends what is being stored etc
[21:06] <twit> data
[21:06] <twit> regular data
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> twit: ext4 wil be fine
[21:07] <redrose4u> hey
[21:07] <redrose4u> guys
[21:08] <k1l> twit: what is your reason against ext4?
[21:09] <twit> k1l, wondering if reiserfs could work
[21:09] <k1l> twit: honestly: if you need to ask that question: it wont
[21:09] <twit> ok
[21:10] <crazydip> gpg key: rsa or elgamal?
[21:11] <twit> Can ubuntu run at a very high resolution
[21:12] <sandb____> TJ-: ping
[21:12] <TJ-> sandb____: ppong
[21:13] <sandb____> TJ-: just wanted to thank you again for your patient help earlier
[21:13] <TJ-> sandb____: no need, you're welcome :)
[21:13] <TJ-> sandb____: Is it all working now?
[21:14] <sandb____> TJ-: there's still weirdness, i get prompted for a passphrase even though there's none, and for a password, and have to do that about 2-3x, and I see those signal 15 errors
[21:14] <sandb____> yet
[21:14] <sandb____> it does actually work
[21:14] <sandb____> i was able to check out, merge, and commit the stuff the client needed
[21:14] <sandb____> it's a bit bizarre
[21:14] <sandb____> but... whatever works :)
[21:14] <crazydip> rsa it is
[21:15] <TJ-> sandb____: Good. Yes, those prompts shouldn't be occurring. I'll give you a clue to solve them though, since I experienced that some time ago and found the cause.
[21:15] <sandb____> TJ-: please
[21:17] <TJ-> sandb____: I discovered I'd somehow put 2 copies of my public key onto the server using "ssh-copy-id". I used ssh-keygen and one of its options to list the installed keys and found the duplicate. The problem was, on my local machine I keep multiple identities (regular ssh,  github, my own git server, etc) and I'd got 2 of those on the server so it didn't know which one to use. Once I'd removed on, the connection was automatic without complaints
[21:18] <Frozenlock> Is there an easy way to setup a mail server (tutorial?) if I have a domain name with dyndns?
[21:18] <sandb____> TJ-: hrmm.. i didn't  use ssh-copy-id
[21:18] <CRealKiller175> hi what kind of tool those ubuntu use to format usb drive or other media usb thumb drive ect...?
[21:18] <sandb____> TJ-: but it's late and my brain may be too dulled by a day battling the forces of badly written code to appreicate what you've written
[21:18] <EweR_> I did "chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/mysite.com" - I thought that ment, that if any user is in a group www-data, then they could have permission to change things in ftp, but with this i still get premission denied.. how come??
[21:18] <sandb____> TJ-: if you don't mind i might try and fix it another time and ask you again :)
[21:19] <TJ-> sandb____: Doesn't matter what too you use - the key thing is, there may be multiple copies of your public key in the far-end ssh key store
[21:19] <TJ-> sandb____: Sure thing. I know sleep always helps, plus time to consider!
[21:19] <norkakn> eny
[21:19] <sandb____> TJ-: yeah, anyway thanks again ... i was feeling hard up against it and it really helped!
[21:19] <sandb____> let me know where to send those peanuts!
[21:19] <|Anthony|> EweR_, do man getfacl and man setfacl
[21:19] <TJ-> sandb____: LOL
[21:19] <CRealKiller175> hi what kind of tool those ubuntu use to format usb drives?
[21:20] <crazydip> where are personal gpg keys stored in the home dir?
[21:20] <CRealKiller175> it hidden
[21:20] <TJ-> crazydip: ~/.gnupg/ I think
[21:20] <CRealKiller175> control h will show all folders
[21:20] <CRealKiller175> yea
[21:20] <CRealKiller175>  what he said
[21:20] <crazydip> TJ-: that's it!
[21:20] <EweR_> |Anthony|, ok
[21:20] <crazydip> TJ-: thanks :)
[21:21] <CRealKiller175>  what he said
[21:21] <TJ-> EweR_: It depends if you've given the *group* read/write permissions on the directory and its contents
[21:21] <CRealKiller175> what program those ubuntu use to format usb drives?
[21:21] <yekoms> dd?
[21:22] <szal> lol
[21:22] <CRealKiller175> not dd
[21:22] <CRealKiller175> im just looking for the name
[21:22] <yekoms> be more specific
[21:22] <yekoms> well every GUI app uses 'dd' as a backend im sure.
[21:22] <szal> same as any other disks
[21:23] <CRealKiller175> ahh
[21:23] <EweR_> TJ-, chown -R user:group /var/www/ should do the trick shouldnt it?
[21:23] <szal> yekoms: dd doesn't format drives
[21:23] <yekoms> why dont it?
[21:23] <zykotick9> CRealKiller175: from terminal you can try "sudo mkfs<TAB><TAB>" to see the various format options
[21:23] <szal> yekoms: dd transfers bitstreams
[21:23] <TJ-> EweR_: "chmod -R :www-data +w" if you want to ensure write permissions.
[21:24] <yekoms> yes, sorry
[21:24] <yekoms> he needs mkfs.*
[21:24] <yekoms> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[21:24] <CRealKiller175> im just looking to ad the sam functionality to a distro im useing.
[21:24] <CRealKiller175> useally when i plug in the drive i can right click and in the dropmenue it show format drive or somthying like that
[21:24] <jrib>  /me pokes TJ- with chmod syntax
[21:25] <CRealKiller175> im just wondering what addon is that?
[21:25] <yekoms> ive never seen that on ubuntu...
[21:25]  * TJ- tickles jrib :p
[21:25] <CRealKiller175> i know iv done it b4
[21:25] <TJ-> jrib: I've only had 2 hours sleep in 48 hours... I deserve *one* mistake  :D
[21:26] <CRealKiller175> oh well ill give up
[21:26] <TJ-> EweR_: Correction: "chmod -R g+w /var/www/"
[21:26] <tryy3|Coding> what happens if i kill processer called deamon? like this ones http://puu.sh/1bqwd ?
[21:26] <yekoms> http://askubuntu.com/questions/88480/adding-extra-options-to-right-click-menu CRealKiller175
[21:26] <yekoms> there is your answer CRealKiller175 ^
[21:26] <CRealKiller175> sweeet ill take a look thanx for the help
[21:26] <EweR_> TJ-, Thank you
[21:28] <TJ-> EweR_: However... if you're allowing FTP access like that, make sure you don't mind all those FTP users in "www-data" to have potentially destructive write access to that directory.
[21:28] <EweR_> TJ-, ok ;)
[21:28] <yekoms> i never would give a group write access.
[21:29] <yekoms> just ROnly
[21:29] <asinello> hi
[21:32] <nvictor> hey guys
[21:32] <iceroot> tryy3|Coding: why you want to kill that process?
[21:32] <nvictor> do i need a system reboot after installing auditd ?
[21:33] <nvictor> (which i am trying to avoid...)
[21:33] <tryy3|Coding> iceroot i dont know they are many so just asked what happens if i would do it
[21:33] <iceroot> tryy3|Coding: its better to ask "what are these processes" instead of "can i kill them" :)
[21:34] <EweR_> TJ-, how should i do, so that I have rw access for a specific user, and that scripts can do rw too without having 777 perms on directories? cause before what I did is chown directory to a specific user, then everything was fine until i tried to run a script and got error for not having permissiosn to write, so I thought I should just add group www-data and put the user in the group(i know thats not right way) but which is then?
[21:34] <tryy3|Coding> iceroot true, mind telling me what those processes do then? :D
[21:34] <TJ-> nvictor: You'll need a kernel boot parameter "audit=1" to ensure processes starteed before auditd are auditable
[21:34] <iceroot> tryy3|Coding: Consolekit is "is a framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions, and seats. "
[21:35] <tryy3|Coding> iceroot oh sounds dangerous to kill that...
[21:35] <TJ-> EweR_: I've avoided FTP for the last 10 years+. I prefer to use ssh/sftp and limited login
[21:35] <iceroot> tryy3|Coding: not dangerous but its not a good idea
[21:36] <tryy3|Coding> iceroot ah ok then i leave it there :D
[21:36] <EweR_> TJ-, oh, sftp would be good idea then
[21:37] <enrico_> hi
[21:39] <TJ-> EweR_: When you use regular FTP that isn't encrypted or tunnelled, the user password goes over the wire in plain text. It is very susceptible to a M-i-t-M or eavesdropping attack
[21:40] <EweR_> EweR_, yeah. ive heard about it.. so basically if u have ssh server set-up you don't need to have anything else and u can use sftp right away?
[21:40] <EweR_> TJ-,*
[21:41] <TJ-> EweR_: That's correct
[21:41] <zykotick9> EweR_: with ssh be default you can use scp right away, i'd guess sftp need some setup
[21:45] <XaD[SwE]> Excuse me for asking, i need some help with wireless in Linux arch. I know it's ubuntu but anyone got a clue were i could get that assistance?
[21:45] <jaxdahl> can you construct a package and make it have a dependency that a certain user exists?
[21:45] <jrib> jaxdahl: well there are packages that create users; is that good enough?
[21:45] <zykotick9> !alis | XaD[SwE] look for an arch channel with this perhaps?
[21:46] <iceroot> jaxdahl: not directly
[21:46] <iceroot> jaxdahl: not with dpkg but with a preinst-script
[21:47] <XaD[SwE]> ty
[21:49] <BlackNarcissus> Hello... Can anyone help me have decent video rendering with flash and html5 in Firefox ? I'm using 12.04 64 bits on an Aspire One 722 with Radeon 6290 chipset and it drives me crazy... Thanks a lot.
[21:49] <iceroot> jaxdahl: and of course you can use every bash command in the pre/postscripts so you can add a user while installing the package
[21:51] <blz> How can I enable USB speakers on ubuntu-server?
[21:52] <blz> or, more exactly, on an ubuntu installation without gnome (and hence the sound settings menu).  It's not *really* ubuntu-server
[21:54] <j0hnsm1th> does anyone know of any software that will read out loud pdf documents?
[21:54] <j0hnsm1th>  i tried orca but i couldnt get it to read anything out of evince
[21:55] <zykotick9> blz: does the usb speakers show up in alsamixer?  use F6 to select sound cards.  best of luck - i have zero other suggestion (speakers on server doesn't make a lot of sense to me, i'm still assuming you don't have a gui)
[21:55] <blz> zykotick9, yes it does!
[21:55] <blz> And I *do* have a GUI, but it's XBMC... so no WM
[21:56] <blz> zykotick9, it shows up as "USB AUDIO"  which I assume is what I want =)
[21:57] <zoktar> is there a way of installing wine without also installing a ton of :i386 packages?.
[21:57] <blz> zykotick9, in fact, I tried setting it from there, but I wasn't too sure how to proceed. When I hilight the entry, I get a mixer bar called PCM whose volume I can set.  So I set it to 100... but now what?
[21:57] <zykotick9> zoktar: the :i386 stuff is due to multiarch, i'd just roll with it if i where you.
[21:58] <zoktar> 140  packages seems a bit extreme
[22:01] <vivid> zoktar, if you dont want 32bit wine, you can install wine1.5-amd64 and it wont pull in all the 32bit packages
[22:02] <crazydip> zoktar: for me it only wants 3 i386 packages
[22:02] <vivid> thats because you must already have them installed
[22:02] <crazydip> vivid: maybe
[22:03] <zykotick9> zoktar: i'm just curious, did you install from mini?
[22:04] <zoktar> zykotick9, its 12.10 beta2 dvd iso. i get the same packages +1 if i try wine-amd64
[22:04] <vivid> that probably means you need them.  most windows software is 32bit
[22:05] <zykotick9> zoktar: cool.  good luck.  12.10 is OT in this channel, use #ubuntu+1 for support.  don't reply to me further, i won't see it.
[22:05] <crazydip> what's a quick way to check if a openpgp key is registerd with the ubuntu key server?
[22:05] <aristidesfl> hi
[22:06] <aristidesfl> is there any special thing needed in order to nount lvm lv at boot?
[22:06] <aristidesfl> I've added one to fstab using the uuid but on boot ubuntu says the drive is not available
[22:08] <delinquentme> how to get the spare capacity of a HD from bash??
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: df -h
[22:09] <yeats> delinquentme: 'df -h'
[22:09] <zykotick9> crazydip: IF you don't get an answer here, i'd try using alis (see "/msg ubottu alis" for details) to search for a lauchpad channel?  are you trying to register your own key?
[22:10] <Guest57307> hey all, I have installed quantal today and was very pleased with the install process
[22:10] <Guest57307> but now jhbuild fails to do anything, I can't get it to build anything because it complains about wireless-tools (which I do have installed...)
[22:10] <TJ-> crazydip: "gpg --search-keys <names> --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com"
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest57307  nice, but better go to #ubuntu+1
[22:10] <Guest57307> I'm using the same .jhbuildrc I previously used on arch that worked fine
[22:10] <crazydip> zykotick9: yeah but I found out its: gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --search-key '<email>'
[22:10] <Guest57307> ok, thx
[22:10] <crazydip> TJ-: ha thanks! :D
[22:11] <philip_> I want to set up a weekly cron job on my laptop. If I use crontab -e to make the command and the computer sleeps/shuts down will the cron tab still be there and will the cron job stillexecute
[22:12] <Zta> Upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10 wiped all my custom keyboard bindings.  Now I would like to make a script that make it easy to restore them.  Anyone happen to know how to dump and restore these?  Back in 11.04 it was gconf.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> Zta  #ubuntu+1
[22:12] <TJ-> crazydip: You can search based on the key ID as well as fingerprint, email addresses, etc
[22:13] <yeats> philip_: you might want to investigate anacron (example blog post): http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/anacron-examples/
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> zta: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:13] <crazydip> TJ-: thanks... so i take it one can update email in a key and then upload the updated the key no problem?
[22:14] <zykotick9> TJ-: mind if i pm you?  it's OT.
[22:14] <rustler770> Has anyone been able to vsftpd to work?
[22:14] <TJ-> crazydip: I'm not sure if you can change an email attached to a key ID, but any changes you make locally can be 'refreshed' (pushed) to a key-server
[22:15] <TJ-> zykotick9: sure
[22:16] <OerHeks> rustler770, lot of options to set in  vsftpd.conf >> http://www.wikihow.com/Setup-vsftpd-FTP-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[22:18] <rustler770> Oerj-leks: tried everything even downloading tar and deb made every conf change, still broken
[22:19] <philip_> yeats, is there a non-root solution
[22:19] <OerHeks> rustler770, that is not how it is done, see that link > sudo apt-get install vsftpd ( and read all options on that page)
[22:20] <OerHeks> or use softwarecentre and your mouse
[22:22] <rustler770> Oerl-leks: Of course I tried apt-get first but still wasn't able to get non-anonymos  conf to wok, let me read this page I'll try it.
[22:22] <OerHeks> did you start the ftp?  sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[22:23] <rustler770> sudo service vsftpd start
[22:23] <yeats> philip_: sorry - I don't know
[22:23] <TJ-> rustler770: Did you use the server guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[22:23]  * zykotick9 notices vsftpd being mentioned in the channel for not working "right" for the 2nd or 3rd time...  hummm.
[22:23] <yeats> philip_: cron assumes that the machine is always on
[22:24] <rustler770> I have Severe book, for 12.04 server
[22:25] <rustler770> Ubutu docs mention bugs
[22:25] <krahador> sera a tutti
[22:26] <krahador> chi può aiutarmi?
[22:26] <TJ-> !it | krahador
[22:26] <krahador>  thanks
[22:32] <zykotick9> rustler770: there isn't a use-case you can give, that justifies sending usernames and passwords in clear text across the internet...  ftpmustdie.
[22:33] <rustler770> zykotick9: working behind the router
[22:34] <zykotick9> rustler770: best of luck.  ftp is a bad idea/protocol this day in age IMO (perhaps ONLY MO ;)  good luck.  enjoy ubunut ;)
[22:34] <morbid> I am having an issue getting my old compaq persario laptop to work wirelessly.  I hooked it up to the cat5 in order to install the propriatary driver it offered...but it still does not work.  The unit has a button to engage the wireless...and it is not functioning
[22:35] <zykotick9> morbid: are you dual-booting?
[22:35] <morbid> Yes.
[22:35] <zykotick9> morbid: enable it in windows then reboot to ubuntu
[22:35] <rustler770> zykotick(; ssh works fine but its onle text mode
[22:35] <morbid> Hmm...okay..I will try that...but it was enabled when i rebooted to begin with.
[22:36] <zykotick9> rustler770: web servers can host files, and do uploads somehow these days ;)  way more secure/user-friendly then ftp.
[22:36] <morbid> I shall return after a bit.  Thanks,
[22:36] <rustler770> apache2 can do ftp
[22:37] <zykotick9> rustler770: i use scp for my remote file transfer needs, but only 1 user gets temporary local-only scp access.  apache2 can do BETTER then ftp!
[22:37] <aristidesfl> does aptitude upgrade upgrades even this packages which repositories where installed manually?
[22:38] <rustler770> apache2 a lot of research to master
[22:38] <zykotick9> rustler770: someone who knows a lot more then me about ftp http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[22:39] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: ^^^ that
[22:40] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: i don't understand what you mean?
[22:41] <aristidesfl> blackshirt does aptitude upgrade all the out of date packages?
[22:41] <gordonjcp> rustler770: ftp is fundamentally broken
[22:41] <gordonjcp> rustler770: to work properly, ftp needs to run a pretty much unauthenticated server as root with access to your entire filesystem - and that's just on the *client*
[22:41] <rustler770> gordonjcp:webdav?
[22:41] <gordonjcp> rustler770: what are you trying to do?
[22:42] <aristidesfl> or only those who are part of the default repositories
[22:42] <zykotick9> rustler770: webdav is waht i was thinking of, but couldn't remember ;)
[22:42] <rustler770> share files with limited number of friends
[22:42] <gordonjcp> rustler770: do they need easy access to put files on the server?
[22:43] <rustler770> I have server why not use it
[22:43] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: yes, you can do it with full-upgrade
[22:43] <gordonjcp> rustler770: a not particularly easy but fun method would be to run a private torrent tracker
[22:44] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: or more "safe" with safe-upgrade
[22:44] <rustler770> gordonjcp: need easy for non-geek friends
[22:44] <aristidesfl> blackshirt what's the difference
[22:45] <gordonjcp> rustler770: do they need to upload files?
[22:45] <zoktar> im looking for a nice way to view apt history, some sort of frontend. anyone know one?. basically for backtracking purposes, when i need to manually remove packages one by one.
[22:45] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: they difference on default behaviour
[22:45] <rustler770> gorfonjcp:would like capability
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: less /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:46] <gordonjcp> rustler770: give webdav a shot but do it over https
[22:46] <aristidesfl> blackshirt what's the difference between an upgrade and a full-upgrade
[22:47] <rustler770> gordonjcp:more research
[22:47] <gordonjcp> rustler770: yes indeed
[22:47] <gordonjcp> rustler770: keep those packets safe!
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: hold youir PgDn button and the end lines are the most recent aditions
[22:48] <rustler770> gordonjcp:never ending...
[22:48] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: i thin you shoudl read the aptitude manual ...
[22:48] <gordonjcp> rustler770: you could set up a VPN and just have them VPN into your Samba server ;-)
[22:48] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: more clear
[22:48] <zoktar> ActionParsnip, aye, but i was hoping for some sort of gui that makes things easyer to read, and perhaps some more functionality.
[22:49] <rustler770> gorndonjcp:even more complicated
[22:49] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: did you try install vsftpd the other day and run into issues?  i was counting you (or someone else in the channel) a 3rd person with issues ;)
[22:49] <trism> zykotick9: I think it was dr_willis
[22:50] <zykotick9> trism: thanks.  ActionParsnip sorry, wrong person.
[22:50] <aristidesfl> blackshirt there is no mention of the upgrade command
[22:51] <morbid> The blue light is now on...but it does not load a list of wireless connections.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: not used it, i use SFTP via openssh-server
[22:51] <zykotick9> trism: do you remember that issue?  i remember an unrelated TLA being the issue, but all i can think of is PAM.
[22:52] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: SSH ftw ;)
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: could read the file with gedit....
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: lots, people need to let FTP die
[22:52] <trism> zoktar: software-center has a history section, click the history button at the top
[22:52] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: are you sure ? read this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/aptitude.8.html
[22:53] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: look at safe-upgarade or full-upgrade command
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: you could grep and awk the log file to get the installed packages from a particulart date, very powerful
[22:53] <aristidesfl> blackshirt yes, what about them?
[22:53] <aristidesfl> no mention of upgrade
[22:54] <_Tristan> Hello. Using gnome 3 and have important things encrypted with encfs. How can I unlock them on login? I've tried gnome-encfs but it does nothing.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: grep installed /var/log/dpkg.log | tail -n 10 | awk {'print $5'}    shows the last 5 installed packages for example
[22:55] <trism> zykotick9: something about /etc/vsftpd.conf pam_service_name=vsftpd -> pam_service_name=ftp to fix ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257003/ ) I think
[22:55] <zoktar> trism, software center does not appear to read all of dpkg.log, looks to me that its history is based opon software and related packages installed from the center alone.
[22:55] <i7c> what's the difference between ; and && in bash? cd asdf;ls  or cd asdf && ls do just the same?
[22:55] <trism> zoktar: not sure that is true, I never use software-center and it has everything here
[22:55] <zykotick9> lol, ActionParsnip i was just wondering if dpkg was the best log to still search on ubuntu ;)  thanks.
[22:55] <dr_willis> i7c:  && runs if the first command succesds,, if it fails. it dont run the 2nd command
[22:55] <zoktar> ActionParsnip, yeah, might have to go that route. i do find it kind of silly there is no simple dpkg history reader.
[22:55] <zykotick9> trism: PAM ;) i guess i wasn't far off
[22:55] <trism> zoktar: usually I just use /var/log/apt/history.log and a bit of vim-foo
[22:56] <i7c> dr_willis: thanksss!
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: there is, its a text file so you can use gedit
[22:56] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: upgrade was refers to safe-upgrade to compatibility use
[22:57] <aristidesfl> blackshirt but there is no mention of that in the manual
[22:57] <aristidesfl> anyway
[22:57] <aristidesfl> thanks
[22:57] <aristidesfl> :)
[22:57] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: upgrade was "deprecated" under aptitude
[22:58] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: if you familiar with apt-get, apt-get upgrade is comparable to aptitude --no-new-installs safe-upgrade.
[22:58] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: on their default behaviour
[22:58] <darkenvy> hey guys I really need help
[22:58] <zoktar> trism, i think i might have been wrong, looks like does in fact read it all!.
[22:59] <darkenvy> I have been in here several times but have not recieved help
[22:59] <aristidesfl> blackshirt I do have a server where the grub menu pops up once in a while, how can I deal with that without having to manually press return?
[22:59] <zoktar> ActionParsnip, Yeah a decent option. thanks
[23:00] <dr_willis> darkenvy:  state the issue and see who can help.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> zoktar: today=`date +%Y-%m`;  grep installed /var/log/dpkg.log | grep $today | awk {'print $5'}      shows all packages install this month
[23:00] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: you can change GRUB_TIMEOUT on /etc/default/grub to more little values (on seconds)
[23:00] <darkenvy> Well I have this stuttering problem on my ubuntu12.04 . Back when I was on 10.10 I didnt have it
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: what is stuttering?
[23:01] <darkenvy> video and audio will stutter for a few seconds. It seems the entire computer stutters. idk.
[23:01] <darkenvy> it takes the last 1/4 of a second and loops it 5-6 times
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: tried unity2D  session?
[23:01] <darkenvy> so watching video is aggrovating! All I can do it listen to dubstep because I dont notice it then
[23:01] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: and then rerun update-grub2
[23:01] <darkenvy> unity? gross!
[23:02] <darkenvy> oh sorry I'm a gnome fan
[23:02] <darkenvy> :P
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: ok what session are you using?
[23:02] <darkenvy> gnome3
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: Unity is a shell for gnome
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: Unity doesn't replace gnome
[23:02] <darkenvy> I thought unity was its own new thing
[23:02] <dr_willis> try a very light window manager/desktop as a test darkenvy  see if its somthing related to system load.
[23:02] <darkenvy> Hey you and I have spoke before Actionparsnip :)
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: yes, ubuntu 12.04 uses Gnome 3.4 with unity as the default shell
[23:02] <dr_willis> darkenvy:  what is your video card? and sound card and system specs?
[23:03] <darkenvy> well its odd because before I had no issues on 10.10
[23:03] <darkenvy> well ACTUALLY
[23:03] <delinquentme> whats the meaning of the acronym du??
[23:03] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  disk ussage.
[23:03] <darkenvy> I upgraded from 10.10 to 12.04 but had OTHER issues so I did a clean re-install. I DID NOT have this issue before on this same hardware
[23:03] <delinquentme> dr_willis, <3
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: what CPU, video card and RAM amount are you using?
[23:03] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: re: install logs.  not sure what the status of your /var/log/dpkg.log.FOO is, but mine has some .gz files, which prevents catting wildcards from working (due to the binary file output to terminal).  so the best i could come up with was "zcat /var/log/dpkg.log.*" which give a nice chronological output of package installations.  suitable for greping as well ;)
[23:04] <aristidesfl> blackshirt the timeout was set to 10, but it was wanting indefinitely
[23:04] <darkenvy> i7, 9800GTX, built in sound
[23:04] <AgentHex> Hi, guys. How do I blacklist vesafb?
[23:04] <darkenvy> nvidia chipset
[23:04] <dr_willis> !blacklist > AgentHex
[23:04] <dr_willis> darkenvy:  you did install the nvidia drivers?
[23:04] <darkenvy> yes
[23:05] <darkenvy> I have full 3D acceleration
[23:05] <darkenvy> its happened since day 1 but I needed to keep working
[23:05] <darkenvy> but as I have said, ive been on 12.04 before from when I upgraded from 10.10 however I didnt have this issue
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: there are some older ones I guess but the newer stuff is in /var/log/dpkg.log
[23:06] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: for me, that was all REALLY new ;)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: what version of the nvidia driver do you use?
[23:06]  * morbid is still having issues with my wireless connection.  Blue light is now on....but still the option for viewing the connections is grayed out.
[23:07] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: doh, perhaps zcat is failing on the non-gz file :(  forget my previous idea!
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> darkenvy: does the system use hybrid video chips?
[23:07] <johnzilla> hello!
[23:08] <darkenvy> hybrid video chips?
[23:08] <johnzilla> i been stuck 3days now.. im trying to install oracle java 6.35? any help plz
[23:08] <morbid> Wireless issue...need help.
[23:09] <darkenvy> Actionparsnip, you think its video driver related? What is the command to open the "additional drivers" window? I always forget what that is
[23:10] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: in my case, the logs had just divided, so the current /var/log/dpkg.log was VERY short, and the /var/log/dpkg.log.1 had interesting information.  cut catting only the non-gz files is a drag, i might figure it out someday ;)
[23:11] <dr_willis> darkenvy:  jockey-gtk
[23:11] <darkenvy> thats it!
[23:12] <darkenvy> okay guys, if I leave and try these things (it will take time to test) will you remember me? :)
[23:12] <morbid> Zykotic9 any new suggestions for the wireless issue?
[23:14] <zykotick9> morbid: see "/msg ubottu tab", typing z - y - k - o - t - i - c - k - 9 is a MAJOR pain, you don't have to.  FYI you didn't even highlight me ;)
[23:14] <zykotick9> morbid: but no suggestions or wireless no.
[23:14] <blackshirt> aristidesfl: you can change it to 0 if you want
[23:15] <Krasus> hey, anyone got a image that shows most of useful linux termina cmd? I would like to make it a poster at my desk :)
[23:15] <crazydip> i uploaded a <source.changes> via dput to launchpad PPA with "success" but I see no mention of it on the page. How can I check the status of the PPA builds?
[23:15] <morbid> Ah...is this what you mean by highlighting you?
[23:16] <morbid> Nope
[23:16] <morbid> I don't get it.
[23:16] <jrib> morbid: type 'z' then press tab
[23:16] <zykotick9> morbid: actually use "tab" "tab" until you get the nick you want.  or "zyk<tab>" type thing.
[23:17] <morbid> oh
[23:17] <morbid> hmm
[23:18] <morbid> zykotick9, better?
[23:18] <zykotick9> morbid: ;) nice!
[23:18] <morbid> zykotick9, So, no more information on wireless?
[23:19] <zykotick9> morbid: what card, was issue.
[23:20] <zykotick9> morbid: sorry. i scrolled back.
[23:20] <zykotick9> morbid: so does N-M see network now?
[23:20] <morbid> zykotick9, It just will not allow me to see the wireless connections.  I tried rebooting back into windows and enabling it...which got the blue light going when i came back...but still no wireless.
[23:21] <morbid> Years back I had ubuntu on here and id not have the issue ....I think.
[23:21] <zykotick9> morbid: means nothing.
[23:22] <morbid> zykotick9, What does?
[23:22] <zykotick9> morbid: what card is it try "lspci | grep -i wireless" and/or "lspci | grep -i network" and paste ONLY your wireless hardware, should be 1 line.
[23:23] <zykotick9> morbid: using an earlier version of ubuntu and hardware working, now it doesn't.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> morbid: what wifi chip?
[23:23] <zykotick9> morbid: use lsusb if above doesn't work.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> morbid: also try:  sudo lshw -C network
[23:24] <aristidesfl> blackshirt I don't want 0, 10 would be fine, but it is infinte
[23:27] <bluecrow> is there nay easy way to setup a pop3 mail server on ubuntu? like a gui frontend?
[23:27] <delinquentme> when using rsync ... what does this mean: skipping non-regular file "yieldspeciescounty_id/5-96-7.png" ??
[23:27] <delinquentme> non-regular file??
[23:29] <delinquentme> nm@!
[23:30] <ghost88> is there a repo for ghc-7.6.1 on ubuntu?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> ghost88: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=ghc
[23:32] <ghost88> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[23:32] <morbid> zykotick9, 06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ghost88: duckduckgo has a bang for PPA searching, makes things fast
[23:33] <blackshirt> !b43 | morbid
[23:34] <trond-> for some reason when mounting a shared folder (virtualbox) it comes up as root:root, even though I am changing to another user... what am I doing wrong? mount -t vboxsf /mnt/point
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> trond-: add:  -o rw,user,uid=1000
[23:35] <morbid> Thanks.  gone
[23:37] <ghost88> ActionParsnip: all the PPAs with ghc have an even *older* version than 7.4.1, which is the version my ubuntu (12.04) comes with :S
[23:38] <ghost88> I expected, since ubuntu is the most popular distro, someone would be using the new ghc which was released last month! ppa's seem unreliable. many are years old
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> ghost88: those are the launchpad PPAs, you could contact a ppa maintainer or 2 to see if they are interested in packaging the newer version
[23:39] <ghost88> in that case i will compile it myself, and maybe even make my own ppa, which will probably never be updated again, lol.
[23:39] <zykotick9> ghost88: you should examing HOW ubuntu releases work.  after a release, package don't ususally get upgraded.
[23:40] <ghost88> zykotick9: hmm i see. i shouldn't think of it like gentoo. I was thinking of PPA's as the same thing as Gentoo overlays. But that's obviously not the case!
[23:40] <ghost88> i'm content with ghc 7.4.1, then :^)
[23:40] <zykotick9> ghost88: gentoo is rolling, ubuntu is NOT
[23:40] <ghost88> I see
[23:41] <zykotick9> ghost88: you do understand that PPA software/issues aren't supported here either right?  see "/msg ubottu ppa" for details
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: sure they get updated, I get new packages daily
[23:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: security updates yes, version updates no.
[23:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: same version, MOSTLY.  there are some exceptions.
[23:42] <bluecrow>  im using a usb modem for th einternet, and wondering could the outside world access my web server at localhost?
[23:43] <zykotick9> bluecrow: via-localhost impossible
[23:43] <zykotick9> bluecrow: via-localhost s/impossible/very improbably/  (not directly! is the re-statement)
[23:43] <bluecrow> well, if I install the webserver, is there anyway it can be accessed?
[23:44] <zykotick9> bluecrow: don't open/forward port 80 from your firewall.
[23:44] <ghost88> I guess I expected there would be just one "Ubuntu Haskell" PPA, maintained by a handful of haskell programmers who use GHC on Ubuntu.
[23:44] <bluecrow> then what should I do?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> bluecrow: yes, all they need is your WAN IP
[23:45] <silverarrow> hi, does anyone have RLT8187 or realtek 3070 chipset for wireless?
[23:45] <brightsparks> I'm trying out xfburn but it doesn't seem to offer the option of later adding files to a previously created list on a cd-rw disc. Bit disappointing. Or does it? Anyone know failing that is there a disc burning program that will allow me to do this?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> bluecrow: go to www.ipchicken.com   and it will give you your WAN IP. Get them to connect to that via HTTP and they will see the web page
[23:46] <bluecrow> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[23:46] <bluecrow> so my public IP is really called a WAN ip.
[23:47] <zykotick9> brightsparks: did you leave the session open?  you need too, inorder to add "more" to a cd.
[23:47] <ledah> does kubuntu has a bug with the .fonts folder?
[23:47] <bluecrow> its ppp0
[23:47] <silverarrow> brightsparks: I had trouble with burning bootable iso, but when I figured out I had to choose sao/dao manually, then it was all right
[23:48] <zykotick9> brightsparks: there is another option, making a cdrw more like a floppy disk, but i don't know ANYTHING about that!  i know it involves "formatting" the cdrw...
[23:49] <silverarrow> brightsparks: yeah, brasero does, I am almost sure
[23:49] <brightsparks> zykotick9: I didn't see any option to leave the session open.
[23:49] <zykotick9> brightsparks: it's no a typical option!  it mean most players can't use the cd until it's closed.
[23:49] <foobArrr> can I somehow map gnome3's activities overview to a mouse button?
[23:50] <brightsparks> silverarrow: that sao/dao option seems interesting-I think it gives that choice...
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> bluecrow: you just need the IP, the interface isnt important when accessed from outside
[23:50] <brightsparks> zykotick9: er what?
[23:51] <zykotick9> brightsparks: if you closed the session the sao/dap isn't gonna help... just sayin'
[23:51] <silverarrow> brightsparks: I`m not that into it, but it has to be session in one, or track in one or something to have the rw funtion
[23:51] <brightsparks> zykotick9: ok
[23:52] <zykotick9> brightsparks: sessionatonce/diskatonce - i'm familiar with tac (trackatonce) and dao (diskatonce).
[23:52] <silverarrow> xfburn doesn`t give the option of closed session like other burners do I think
[23:52] <brightsparks> silverarrow: you mean an open session?
[23:53] <silverarrow> brightsparks: I could test it
[23:53] <brightsparks> silverarrow: but will you? ha ha ha
[23:53] <brightsparks> silverarrow: lol seriously no please do
[23:54] <zykotick9> brightsparks: you could copy the cdrw contents to your HD, add the files you want.  clear the cdrw and copy it back, with an open session, if you want to add more files.
[23:54] <silverarrow> yeah, I could
[23:54] <Vlakoff> hi
[23:55] <silverarrow> brightsparks: I am promising to much, I am out of cd-rw, only cd-r
[23:55] <bluecrow> after I install LAMP, will I have to make any changes so people can connect from outisde?
[23:55] <zykotick9> brightsparks: fyi, you still can't update files, only add new.
[23:55] <brightsparks> zykotick9: er copy the files from the disc to the hard drive add the additional files and then blank and burn them all on to the disc again-is that what you said?
[23:55] <zykotick9> bluecrow: forward ports / open firewall type stuff.  usually done in a router.
[23:55] <Vlakoff> anyone here knows blogmarks?
[23:56] <bluecrow> zykotick9: I don't use a router though.
[23:56] <zykotick9> brightsparks: yup, that sounds like my suggestion.
[23:56] <bluecrow> i use a usb modem ppp0
[23:56] <bluecrow> its installing lamp now.
[23:56] <brightsparks> zykotick9: ha ha ha I wouldn't sell many cd burning programs if that's all they could do! ha ha ha
[23:56] <zykotick9> bluecrow: if you're directly connected i don't want to suggest anything.  do you run a firewall on your box?  if not, i'd guess it would be open with you external IP.
[23:57] <bluecrow> i dont use a firewall, no. i use a usb modem.
[23:57] <zykotick9> brightsparks: sell free software or propritary software?
[23:57] <brightsparks> zykotick9: I want to be able to add and remove files from my burned cd or dvd as is possible with say Nero.
[23:58] <brightsparks> silverarrow: thanks anyway
[23:58] <zykotick9> brightsparks: best of luck.  i won't see your posts further.  enjoy ubuntu.
[23:58] <bluecrow> zykotick9: can you test ir for me? I xan connect to it.
[23:58] <brightsparks> zykotick9: thank you
[23:59] <zykotick9> bluecrow: no sorry.  don't ask the channel to "test" for you probably NOT a good idea.
[23:59] <bluecrow> zykotick9: I dialled you.