[00:17] Anybody know how to turn off tool tips for the "home" and launcher icons on the XFCE desktop in version 4.10? Haven't found anything on a Google search. [00:19] jk_: could be that disabling thumbnails also disables the tooltips, but other than that i have no clue [00:23] ochosi, unfortunately I already have them disabled, and the tips still show up. In 4.10 they also include oversized icons and that's really ugly. === jyc_ is now known as jyc === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:40] how do you add more Xfce style themes? By default in Xfce aren't they more? [08:42] xfwm4-themes or shiki-colors-xfwm-theme for xfwm, quite a few xfce themes aren't GTK3 compatible. [08:44] Unit193: thank you :) [08:45] Sure, I take it you wondered too. [08:49] Unit193: thank you! [08:51] Sure thing. [08:52] you can also write your own themes Marzata, they're bit similar to CSS (/usr/share/themes/ has a ton of examples) [08:52] gry: will look into that too, thanks! [08:53] put them into ~/.themes/themename/ and modify, they'll appear in settings-appearance-style under the name you chose, just making sure it is not same as an existing name could work out of the box [08:53] no problem [09:48] What happens if I apt-get upgrade a box through SSH and lose connection? [09:49] k_sze: not good, use screen [09:49] oh nvm, it seems to get reconnected automatically, weird [09:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen [09:49] !info screen [09:49] screen (source: screen): terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-14ubuntu8 (precise), package size 582 kB, installed size 1044 kB [09:53] So how do I usually use it? ssh into the box, start screen, ctrl-a, c, start apt-get upgrade, and if I get disconnected, ssh into the box again, screen, ctrl-a, " to find the vt? [09:59] ssh into box, run screen, press enter, then whatever, quit with exit or detach with C-a-d and reattach with screen -Dr [10:01] Sysi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen says that "when a Screen session is *detached*, the processes that were running inside it aren't stopped." But what happens if my SSH connection gets dropped before I have a chance to detach Screen? [10:02] there's automatic detach [10:04] yes, screen will detach automatically [10:58] how do you change to autologin user in xubu? [11:02] Marzata: read the F.A.Q. :) [11:02] http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ [11:13] huh, thanks! [12:50] hi @ll [13:27] Hallo, I am running 12.04, I have a problem geting my nvidia card runing. I have tried running nvidia-config and done a reboot but cant get it to work. Can somone please healp me? Thanks! :) [13:28] kore_: what error msg do you get? [13:28] how can you tell its activated? [13:29] i dont, I just dont get my any higher resolution then 640x480. [13:30] but i have installed the driver thrue the additional drivers program.. [13:31] kore_: try using the binary nvdia driver from the homepage [13:32] additional driver should be ok, but which nvidia-card do you have? [13:33] but its strange I got it working a coupel of days ago, after i used the laptop with a additional screen it stoped working. [13:33] kore_, whats the output of xrandr [13:33] and the output of lspci | grep "VGA"? [13:33] !pastebin [13:33] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:33] xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480 default connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm 640x480 73.0* [13:34] okay and the output of lspci | grep "VGA"? [13:34] seem to have found a repeatable bug in gimp that locks up my computer :( [13:35] ubuntu-bug gimp << recon_lap [13:35] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400M GS] (rev a1) [13:35] kore_, just that one? [13:35] hello. How do i disable the panel from starting? [13:35] yes [13:35] i would like to use awn instead [13:36] mona_, just eliminate them [13:36] GridCube, but i cant remove the last one.. [13:36] kill xfce4-panel [13:36] well, I'll try to see if i can repeat it again, but it's more that a gimp bug if it locks up the computer/desktop [13:36] but it will probably restart itself [13:37] GridCube, right. And I would like to disable its startup [13:37] kore_, launch gksu jockey-gtk [13:37] mona_: go session and startup and remove the entry? [13:38] kore_, see what drivers are you using, you can pass a screenshot if you feel like ti [13:38] mona_: [13:38] Navigate to Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Session, kill the xfce4-panel process and save the session state. [13:39] baizon, yep, nice, thank you :) [13:39] np [13:39] GridCube: I am using nvidia 173, thats the only one.. [13:39] its activated? [13:39] GridCube: yes [13:39] ok, weird [13:40] kore_, you know how to move around ttys? [13:41] GridCube: not really.. :/ whats ttys, you mean to go to bash behinde xserver? with ctrl+ fx F4 [13:42] yes, ctrl-alt-f[1-6] [13:42] GridCube: yes i do :) [13:42] ok, you can try this then: [13:43] go to a tty log in and do; sudo service lightdm stop then launch sudo Xorg -configure follow the steps and then do sudo reboot [13:44] you should reboot to a configured by you xorg.conf file [13:44] thanks man! :) [13:44] (you could avoid the reboot part and do sudo service lightdm start, but i've found it easier just to reboot) [13:44] if for some reason you cant log in after that [13:45] you can remove the xorg.conf file from /etc/X11/ by doing mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.back [13:46] thanks! [13:54] GridCube: sorry man, didnt work. got an error: number of created screens does not match number of detected devices" [13:54] what? [13:54] what command did you used? [13:55] GridCube: sudo Xorg -configure [13:55] ok, locked up again, where would i go with this bug? [13:55] Kore_, did you stoped lightdm before? [13:55] GridCube: yes [13:56] mmm [13:56] try --configure [13:56] with two - [13:56] okay.. [13:59] GridCube: got: fatal server error: unrecognised option: --configure [13:59] mmm [13:59] thats so weird [13:59] so -configure was right [14:00] yes [14:00] Kore_, the previous error says that you have more than one gui [14:00] if lightdm is stoped then it should not tell you that :/ [14:00] gui? screen? [14:01] yes [14:01] graphical user interface = gui [14:01] ok [14:01] Kore__, what happens if you go to F7 [14:01] (ctrl-alt-f7) [14:02] noting, i get back to this gui.. [14:02] okay so you didnt stoped it! [14:03] you need to kill this gui session in order for Xorg -configure to work [14:03] that what stoping lightdm should do [14:03] i did, but i am in it again now.. thats how i can talk to you.. [14:03] mmmhm [14:04] I am going inn and out of x itch time :) [14:04] Kore__, not really, you are just switching [14:04] you probably need to log out here [14:05] now that lightdm is stoped you should NOT be prompted for user/password [14:05] and X's should remain closed [14:05] Kore__, you know how to use irssi? or weechat? [14:06] irssi and weechat are text based irc clients you can install and run from a tty, you launch then write /server irc.ubuntu.com and then /join #xubuntu and you will be back here even if you dont have a gui [14:12] what command would give a dump of the hardware on my system for a bug report? [14:13] sudo lshw ? [14:14] sudo lshw [14:15] recon_lap, ubuntu-bug already takes care of that [14:15] GridCube: I got it working. I mv xconfig file in to xconfig.bak and i ran nvidia-xorg and now evertthing works again.. tahnks man ;) [14:16] yep, just found that, bit annoying that it wiped the description I had already written [14:28] hi. I have two issues: my is sometimes dissappearing for a brief moment. This happens especially when the cursor icon is changing to hand or resize or other.. What could be the cause? [14:29] my? what? [14:31] it just disappeared again XD [14:32] lol sry [14:32] cursor1 [14:32] ! [14:32] cursor [14:32] oh [14:32] mona_: cursor mouse cursor theme perhaps? [14:32] mona_: virtual machine? [14:32] Sysi, nope, native [14:33] TheSheep, how do you mean? [14:33] mona_: in the mouse settings, third tab, you can select how you want your mouse to look like [14:34] TheSheep, the theme is default [14:35] the theme is okay. But the cursor sometimes disappears until i move the mouse again [14:35] I think I had it, but I can't remember what was the cause [14:36] oh, it was on macosx, ignore me [14:36] other issue: [14:37] chromium-browser is mad and cannot be moved [14:37] mad? [14:37] when i go to options, and select "use system borders" its okay, when i deselect it back, its okay again [14:37] but on chromium restart [14:37] it cannot be move again [14:37] i cannot move it [14:37] press alt and drag the window [14:38] TheSheep, yes, but well its not the solution really :) [14:39] a different window manager theme might help [14:40] otherwise, it's probably a bug in xfwm4 or in chromium (or both), and you can report it to have it fixed in the new release [14:40] how to you get a new grub.cfg file created after you update /etc/default/grub? [14:42] "sudo update-grub" [14:42] wish me luck, if I'm not back it went badly :) [14:47] yaa, fixed the backlight control :) [15:17] ok, my desktop has changed into a pink screen, but the window manager is running. i dont have any icons or background. can someone help? === xubuntu777 is now known as fredom [15:19] l [15:19] fredom, remove nautilus and restart your session [15:19] ok [15:22] thank you, i'll be back if it continues === mrfre is now known as fredom [15:25] should i also remove libnautilus-extension? [15:25] dunno [15:26] well i've still got the pink screen [15:26] then do autoremove [15:26] sudo apt-get autoremove === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [15:27] one sec i'ma restart whole machine [15:27] Now working towards setting brightness here on acer one. I have added acpi vendor stuff to grub, updated grub, but /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness: no such file or directory [15:28] what is this madness? [15:32] ok, still a pink screen. also i am having to start my windowmanager and panels from autostart menu. not sure if that has anything to do with it [15:32] and a popup says my panel is running in kiosk mode [15:33] D: [15:33] yea.. [15:33] fredom, do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [15:34] it should install you all the default xubuntu packages [15:34] again [15:34] then when you log in check that you are using a "xubuntu session" [15:34] lol, had the answer to mona_ question, shame they left [15:34] they? [15:36] multipule personality? [15:36] sound better than it :) [15:37] strange, why did xubuntnu desktop get removed..? [15:37] oh well time to restart [15:43] omg === mrfre is now known as fredom [15:44] ? [15:44] what? [15:44] now i have to startup xfdesktop too from the startup menu [15:44] just solved the problem though [15:44] D: [15:44] wel patched it [15:44] what? [15:45] what did you did to your system fredom ? [15:45] hmnn, [15:45] do you have lightdm running? [15:46] yes [15:46] :/ do you have xfwm4 runing? [15:47] xfwm4 --replace probably? [15:47] yes i set that to startup automatically. [15:47] ?? [15:47] to make it the deafult [15:48] mk [15:49] i dont know, check if loging in with a new test user fix the issues? === mrfre is now known as fredom [15:52] bite me, i do have the panel running [15:53] oh well [15:53] any other essential programs i should check? [15:54] power manager is good. oh how do i set the fan on ac power [15:55] nvr mind [15:57] on the cpu frequency governor applet, when i set a governer from the dropdown box then close the box. it goes back to ondemand [15:58] fredom: it might not ever get changed.. you might not have support for it.. [15:58] wait, just saw [15:58] power manager prefer power saving over performance on battery [15:59] omg i cant change the opwer manager settings [16:00] power* [16:01] fredom: i dont seem to have any issues... what have you changed so far from the default setup? [16:01] alot.................... [16:02] i havent had problems till recently [16:02] can i somehow enable this command gksudo "setpci -s '00:02.0' F4.B=99" to be run without the need for sudo? [16:02] fredom: sometimes i make a new user and either look at the config there, or try looking in the live CD [16:02] mk [16:03] mona_: you trying to get you brightness control working? [16:05] what program operates the cpu frequency scaling? [16:06] brb [16:08] recon_lap, yes [16:08] the gksudo "setpci -s '00:02.0' F4.B=99" [16:08] works [16:09] so i attached it to keyboard shortcuts [16:09] but its not very elegant, because everytime i invoke it, it asks for passwd [16:10] mona_: this might be a help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight , depends on what you problem is? is it the brightness applet not working or just the shortcut keys? [16:12] recon_lap, bothj [16:12] mona_: xbright doesn't work? [16:13] mona_: you should work through that guide, depending on you video driver you can get the proper fix [16:13] (or was it xbrightness?) [16:14] mona_: fn + right arrow/left arrow are the default keys for changing brightness [16:30] in Action Buttons applet it says Lock, but there is no lock? [16:30] recon_lap: is it? [16:30] isn't it usually fn+left/right ? [16:32] Mathias: ?? searches keyboard for key with "left" or "right" on it :P [16:33] recon_lap: i think you know what i mean :P [16:40] Mathias: can't really answer, I'v got two keyboards, one got a Fn key , the other does not, works fine with the Fn key [16:43] any ideas, i set grub to nomodeset, now i can only choose between 2 resolutions? [16:44] KMS doesn't work with nomodeset and your xorg is missing it or config [16:46] ok [16:46] so i cant enable this option? [16:47] you need to add modelines to xorg.conf if you can't use nomodeset [16:47] *if you have to use === PreciseOne is now known as IdleOne [16:51] hi. how can i uninstall the grub of xubuntu? which command could I use? [16:58] Sysi: thanks [16:58] Monte_Cristo: you cant uninstall grub, or your system wont boot [16:59] Monte_Cristo: you need to be a bit clearer about what your trying to do. [17:03] i installed ubuntu on my notebook, and now in the netbook i have windows 7 and xubuntu in dual boot. windows 7 will not boot up. I want xubuntu uninstall, and reinstall windows 7. I created a live usb with the package of windows 7, but when I start the netbook from usb windows live, I get a screen that says xubuntu Default. And I can not reinstall windows. [17:04] then you did not boot from the usb [17:05] Monte_Cristo: you should check the BIOS to see what the boot order is [17:06] Monte_Cristo: And personally I've never hear of windows booting from a usb? but I'm out of touch with windows [17:06] recon_lap of course [17:07] win7 can be installed from usb, win8 even can be installed on a usb [17:08] win7 can be installed from usb, i downloaded the iso from the official web site, and i have the installation key [17:08] I'm sorry, but in my netbook, xubuntu is very slow, unlike windows 7. so I decided not to give up linux and install ubuntu on the notebook. but I want the netbook windows seven! [17:09] yep, software companies coping the open source movement and charging people for their innovative updates :) [17:09] copying* [17:10] I do not care about this [17:10] Monte_Cristo: no worries , linux is not for everyone, and seems it's not for you laptop anyway :) [17:10] Monte_Cristo: this is not a xubuntu problem, make sure you have the installer right on the usb and check your boot settings [17:11] windows will overwrite grub during installation [17:12] koegs, I know this [17:17] koegs, when i change the order in bios, and start the machine, a screen 'xubuntu' appears, with the word default and a countdown timer that wakes up to infinity. later, if I remove the usb, 'xubuntu' starts normally. In the notebook, where I installed ubuntu, I tried to create more time live usb win7, I tried to re-download the package. I think it's a problem with grub. I am convinced that, if I remove the grub, the machine would [17:17] be able to access the live usb. [17:18] Monte_Cristo: no it is not, check your netbook and see if you can get a bios boot menu or something [17:18] this happens before grub [17:19] Monte_Cristo: well if you're convinced, format the drive and grub is gone. It's not booting from USB for some reason, because if it was you would not be seeing grub. [17:20] i think the netbook is not able to boot from the usb for some reason and that is why it is loading grub from the harddrive [17:20] but because if I give priority in bios to the usb, and boot the machine from the live win7, it seems a strange screen xubuntu? [17:20] *why,not because [17:20] ok [17:21] Monte_Cristo: are you sure you dont have grub on the USB instead of windows? [17:21] Monte_Cristo: see if you can get some bios boot menu where you can clearly select the usb stick to boot [17:21] if this fails, your configuration on the stick is wrong :) [17:22] recon_lap, i'm sure, i formatted more time the usb and installed twice the [17:22] iso win7 [17:22] Monte_Cristo: and have you booted this laptop from USB before? [17:23] koegs, i've already done, i selected the usb, In recent weeks I've done that many times [17:24] recon lap, yes, more times.. [17:24] Monte_Cristo: i am sorry to say that but then there is something wrong with your usb or the way you put win7 on the usb, this is not a problem of xubuntu or grub :( [17:25] ok [17:25] Monte_Cristo: well, have you checked the partitions, because you may have more than one [17:28] my four partitions are distributed as follows: 1) windows (does not work anymore, for some reason) 2) Windows recovery (even this does not work anymore) 3) always dedicated to windows, I do not know what (does not work anymore even) 4) partition for xubuntu, having therein two logical partitions: one for xubuntu, the other for swap. These last two only unique to operate [17:29] Monte_Cristo: I meant on the USB :) [17:29] i formatted the usb [17:29] before [17:30] Monte_Cristo: you formatted a partition, if there are more than one partition which did you format? [17:32] no [17:35] I selected the usb from the side menu of ubuntu and I set up the formatting. I did not create partitions in usb, and in fact the machine does not ask me which partition to format. it formats everything. [17:35] there is a way to uninstall xubuntu, or a command to uninstall the grub? if I act in this way, as soon as I will start the machine by usb win7, would not appear the screen xubuntu, and perhaps, would start win7 [17:35] format it [17:35] !mbr [17:35] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [17:36] it also tells how to remove grub [17:36] I hope [17:36] Monte_Cristo: how do you put win7 on the usb-stick? [17:36] still, this is not a matter of grub... [17:36] koegs, theres an usb-installer from microsoft [17:37] GridCube: i know, but i want to know what Monte_Cristo does ;-) [17:38] koegs, ohh!! with Unebootin of ubuntu. perhaps that is the problem? [17:39] lol [17:39] when the machine show me the world Default with the count down, show also the word Unebootin [17:39] but I can not figure out where i mistake [17:40] there are serveral reports that win7.iso + unetbootin does not always work [17:40] do you have another windows-pc? [17:40] Monte_Cristo: burn the ISO to the usb again, but burn it as just a ISO from a DVD writing app [17:41] wtf recon_lap? [17:41] "burn to usb" with a dvd burner app??? :D [17:41] koegs, no [17:42] recon_lap i don't understand what you wrote, sorry [17:45] Monte_Cristo: ok, looked it up, not going to work :( [17:46] http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/install-windows-7-from-usb-drive-requires-2-simple-steps/ [17:48] he "CAN" make a booteable is using unetbootin [17:48] i've done it [17:48] it works [17:50] still, I'd be checking the ISO for errors and using windows tool at this stage [17:50] and joining ##windows [22:11] anyone know of a way to use expose in xubuntu xfce? [22:12] lib: you mean as in osx's expose effect of showing all open windows? [22:12] yeah [22:12] there was/is skippy-xd [22:12] it's kinda stable, wouldn't 100% recommend it though [22:13] i guess the best shot you have at this is by using compiz [22:13] yeah i saw it but the website seems to be down http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.html [22:13] no, there's one at code.google.com [22:13] i wasnt sure if it was still maintained [22:13] someone applied a few patches [22:13] but i don't think it's actually that well-maintained [22:14] hmm thanks for the info. ill give it a try [22:14] yeah, but don't complain about it ;) [22:15] (there should even be ready-to-install debian/ubuntu packages of skippy-xd there...) [22:15] thnaks [22:15] np [22:19] ochosi: i clicked the .deb file and There isn’t a software package called “file:” in your current software sources. [22:28] lib: you can use "sudo dpkg -i $path-to-your-deb-file" if you want [22:28] but dpkg -i doesn't take care of dependencies [22:28] you have to manually install those via synaptic or something like that [22:29] sudo apt-get install -f for that. [22:29] thanks again linux jedi master [22:30] * ochosi wasn't aware of Unit193's nickname [22:31] J,,,? [23:11] i dont understand why im not getting the html5 videos on youtube :/ i've applied on youtube.com/html5 but i still see all the videos, even the most new ones as flash [23:16] iirc, you have to allow youtube cookies for the html5 settings to take/last. [23:16] I always forget that :( [23:17] May want to check back there, and at html5test.com [23:18] 363 and 9 bonus points [23:18] is that good? [23:20] beats me...no, really, I got 346+9 [23:20] 373+9 [23:20] GridCube: Look at the video section. [23:20] youtube.com/html5 has it too. [23:21] yes i have that all, if log in using my brother's google user i get to see the html5 videos [23:21] :/ but not from my user [23:21] can it be tnat NON of all the videos i see are rendered to webm? [23:22] GridCube: there are /very/ little html5 ones, you sure you're viewing the same one?.. [23:22] but wasnt it that all the new uploads where on webm? [23:22] i mean the same link as the one that works on your bro's [23:23] oh okay [23:23] yes [23:23] :/ [23:23] thats weird [23:23] heh [23:23] GridCube: 0k, how about trying it with another browser; have you got another one installed? [23:24] http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kitties&aq=f&webm=1 Try that. [23:24] sure, but i've figured it, its just that none of my subscriptions upload webm [23:51] so after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 final beta, my mac pro is bricked :) [23:52] oops, nevermind, my bad [23:52] How so? Or not. [23:52] was issues with reffit [23:52] phew!