[05:25] <IronWaffle> Hey. What's the fastest speed a live CD should be written?
[05:29] <cdoublejj> IronWaffle	 8x
[05:29] <cdoublejj> that is on the safe side
[05:30] <IronWaffle> Weird, I did that and still got a corrupted sector
[05:30] <IronWaffle> I'll try 4x
[05:30] <IronWaffle> Just to be even more safe
[05:30] <cdoublejj> if you still get corruption my next would be a drive cleaner disc or use a different drive
[05:31] <IronWaffle> Only have 1 burner, and it's 6 years old. I should probably clean the laser
[05:31] <cdoublejj> I was debating to say 4x actually.  the reason is my Nintendo wii set to play home made back up discs and they ONLY work if burned at 4x.
[05:32] <cdoublejj> wait... well err never mind kind of but, if it matters you can request free discs to be mailed to you. or if possible install from usb drive
[05:32] <IronWaffle> It's a dell 2400, USB out of mind. And I have 1 last CD so I'll give it a whack
[05:33] <IronWaffle> Also I have my wii set up, so you just gave me a tip of burning my backups
[05:35] <IronWaffle> I tried Xubuntu at 8x before this one and it gave me an error at the same place lubuntu gave me it, so more likely than not burning too fast
[05:36] <cdoublejj> yeah they are supposed to be burned at 4x and the wii only like certain blanks discs brands
[05:36] <cdoublejj> ever since the wii i just burn every thing at 4x
[05:37] <IronWaffle> Wait... What brands?
[05:38] <cdoublejj> PMed you also the best for the wii by type it dvd-r
[05:38] <cdoublejj> dash r
[05:40] <IronWaffle> I just bought a 50-pack of Titan ones this morning -_-
[05:40] <IronWaffle> *sigh* hopefully they'll work
[05:40] <IronWaffle> Thanks cdoublejj
[05:40] <cdoublejj> np :D
[05:54] <IronWaffle> I tried making it at 2x but it did it at 4 for some reason, either way out came a perfect disc
[05:54] <IronWaffle> there's our answer. Live CDs must be made at 4x
[05:58] <cdoublejj> sometimes the drives can't match/do the all of the listed speeds. you owuld need a first generation {super old first of it's kind} cd burner to do 2x
[06:01] <IronWaffle> Ahh ok
[08:23] <fomg-optimize> Hi there! FIrst off I want to give a big thanks to everyone working with Lubuntu! Great work! Loving it!
[08:25] <fomg-optimize> Now, to get to a point. How come Chromium is the default browser rather than for example FIrefox? Tests with newer versions of Chrome against Firefoxs seems to pretty much always show Firefox using less ram and pcu for the same number of tabs? Not to mention all the add-ons available to FIrefox
[08:27] <Unit193> There are many reasons to go for browser X, and that is one that is hit on all the time as well.  xxxterm is actually more lightweight than either of those, but not quite as easy to use.
[08:27] <fomg-optimize> THis could be seen as one example
[08:27] <fomg-optimize> http://www.ghacks.net/2012/06/21/chrome-uses-way-more-memory-than-firefox-opera-or-internet-explorer/
[08:27] <fomg-optimize> Very true
[08:27] <Unit193> In the end, user will install whatever the user wants.
[08:27] <fomg-optimize> Yes, I do :)
[08:28] <fomg-optimize> But what reasons other than lightness are behindchoosing Chromium?
[08:28] <fomg-optimize> I'm just curious
[08:28] <fomg-optimize> Do not intend to flame
[08:29] <Unit193> I don't remember.  I'd guess it was seen to be lighter at the time.
[08:29] <fomg-optimize> Thanks for xxxterm by the way, missed that one
[08:30] <Unit193> Vim like.
[08:30] <djazz> how can i remove chromium, and use chrome only? if i try remove chromium it automatically install FF
[08:30] <djazz> and then Midori, Konqeror, Epiphany
[08:30] <Unit193> djazz: Ah, that one.... Add firefox in the name to remove as well, which will pull up another browser to add to the list, as you noted.
[08:31] <djazz> when i click a link in skype for example, it opens in both chromium and chrome. why?
[08:32] <Unit193> Skype is it's own little cookie, but it should be calling either exo-open, or sensible-browser.  I think the latter.
[08:37] <cdoublejj> hhhmm opera might not be a bad option/choice for Lubuntu maybe the installer for lubununtu could ask you what you want
[08:37] <cdoublejj> makes me wanna try lubuntu with opera on my old laptop
[08:38] <Unit193> But then it could ask what email client you want, and what IM if any, or what office software be it LibreOffice, OpenOffice, or gnome-office (abi, gnumeric.)
[09:06] <RoboTamer> Hi, looking for a lubuntu guru, any body?
[09:08] <RoboTamer> Okay, page me when you get this. I am looking for a way to NOT start x at startup, like to started manually when needed. Can't find an service scripts, or anything in /etc/default  How do I do this?
[09:10] <Unit193> Shouldn't something like sudo update-rc.d -f lightdm remove   just about do it?
[09:10] <RoboTamer> No lightdm just removes the login
[09:11] <RoboTamer> X still starts
[09:12] <RoboTamer> Besides it's insserv -r  now not update-rc
[09:13] <LuvLinuxOS> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it
[09:13] <Unit193> Meh, it works.  Just put "text" as part of the grub cmdline in /etc/default/grub
[09:14] <LuvLinuxOS> Hope this helps
[09:14] <RoboTamer> I'll check it out, thanks
[09:15] <LuvLinuxOS> welcome
[09:18] <RoboTamer> Totally forgot that's for ubuntu, lubuntu doesn't have grub
[09:18] <Unit193> Then you installed differently.
[09:21] <RoboTamer> I guess I used an image for the MiniPC
[09:29] <LuvLinuxOS> Lubuntu do have grub!!! look in /boot/grub folder of the cli...
[09:32] <LuvLinuxOS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9644518#post9644518
[09:32] <LuvLinuxOS> check this out!!!
[09:37] <RoboTamer> Not mine, I am running the miniand version https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/install-ubuntu-linux-12-04-now-including-droidmote
[09:37] <RoboTamer> There is nothing in the boot folder
[09:41] <RoboTamer> LuvLinuxOS: Got no grub, could use run levels maybe. I will check that out
[09:42] <head_victim> RoboTamer: if you aren't using grub you haven't used anything remotely like a normal L/Ubuntu install
[09:42] <Unit193> You'd have to ask their support group, have no idea what they may have done to it.
[09:43] <head_victim> RoboTamer: now that I actually read you're link I concur with Unit193, this is not a Lubuntu question but a miniand tech question. Unfortunately it appears they do things a lot different to normal so no one here is likely to know the answer to your question.
[09:45] <RoboTamer> Thanks head_victim and sorry
[09:45] <Unit193> Wait, are they even using upstart?
[09:45] <head_victim> RoboTamer: don't be sorry :) When you're not using the default installs it's usually best to state this at the start of asking for help so helpers can best direct your questions :)
[09:46] <RoboTamer> Okay,
[09:46] <RoboTamer> Don't know what upstart is Unit193
[09:46] <LuvLinuxOS> RoboTame: Then install grub
[09:47] <RoboTamer> And runlevels aren't going to work, since there is no init script
[09:47] <Unit193> !upstart
[09:47] <RoboTamer> I don't think that will work. I don't think grub can start this machine
[09:47] <head_victim> LuvLinuxOS: they're using a special third party adaption of Lubuntu for a specific model of android pc
[09:49] <LuvLinuxOS> look I have been testing lubuntu 12.10 on a 12.04 system... grub installs.
[09:50] <LuvLinuxOS> With a clean install the folders are present but do not load.
[09:50] <RoboTamer> Where are you installing
[09:51] <LuvLinuxOS> That mean that you can load grub in the master boot record and point to the boot images or partitions in windows case
[09:51] <LuvLinuxOS> /boot/grub
[09:51] <LuvLinuxOS> check that folder out then google "install grub lubuntu"
[09:51] <RoboTamer> I mean, I am running this on little Android computer, not even 386 based
[09:52] <LuvLinuxOS> a tablet
[09:52] <LuvLinuxOS> ?
[09:52] <RoboTamer> No am minipc MK802 or something
[09:52] <RoboTamer> Here is the info https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/install-ubuntu-linux-12-04-now-including-droidmote
[09:52] <LuvLinuxOS> can you access the cli
[09:53] <RoboTamer> Yes
[09:54] <RoboTamer> Okay I am taking this their forum, which I should have done anyway. Thanks everybody.
[20:38] <zleap> any idea when i run banshee it fails to show up in task switcher or the task bar
[20:59] <Phiscribe> broken/missing icon maybe
[21:00] <Phiscribe> or in wrong place, not seen it with banshee but with some other apps