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| lanoxx_ | when i run 'bzr dh-make ...' it shows a list of some properties such as maintainer name and email address, but the email address and license that is shows are wrong, where does dh-make pull these variables from? | 08:26 |
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| tumbleweed | lanoxx_: I thought one had to tell it the license | 10:14 |
| tumbleweed | it can't guess that | 10:14 |
| jokerdino | hey devs, any idea when epiphany-browser 3.6 will land in quantal? i see only the source of it | 11:29 |
| Laney | jokerdino: when webkit gets fixed :/ | 11:29 |
| jokerdino | it doesn't build on armhf, does it? | 11:31 |
| Laney | right | 11:32 |
| jokerdino | aww, so i have a choice to build it from source on amd64 | 11:32 |
| cjwatson | Hopefully it won't take that long and all you need is a few days' patience | 11:33 |
| jokerdino | i'll wait | 11:33 |
| cjwatson | Sorting it out one way or another is release-critical ... | 11:33 |
| jokerdino | i would just install it and remove it in a matter of minutes anyway.. :/ | 11:34 |
| tumbleweed | kirkland: now that I see the uplead that you were pinging me about, thanks | 11:59 |
| tumbleweed | I don't like checking for the existance of /etc/dpkg/origins/ubuntu, though. I have that on my Debian desktop... :) | 12:00 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: the alternative for sks would be a .in file for the maintainerscripts so you can substitute in from debian/rules | 13:26 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: yes | 13:27 |
| tumbleweed | the danger of testing SRUs in build chroots :) | 13:27 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: I'm surprised there's not a lintian check for that, would think it might be common | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | marga: I just remembered the problem with '. /etc/lsb-release' (myunity) | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | marga: bug 214861 | 13:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 214861 in localechooser (Ubuntu) "expects to be able to source /etc/lsb-release" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214861 | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | marga: you might want to lift the shell code from either Debian or Ubuntu's localechooser package instead - it's battle-tested, it should be about as quick as sourcing the file, and it's safer | 13:39 |
| marga | cjwatson, ok, I'll look at it | 13:45 |
| marga | cjwatson, I'm a bit depressed about the sponsoring of this, though | 13:45 |
| marga | I spent 2 weeks waiting for it to be in the "yellow" zone, and since whoever looked at it didn't like the description, it's back at the end of the queue. | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | I think you got caught up in process confusion around -backports | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | and I'm not convinced it's back at the end of the queue - didn't Laney say he'd uploaded it? | 13:46 |
| Laney | yes. It's done. | 13:46 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:47 |
| marga | Oh, I missed that. | 13:47 |
| Laney | and it didn't take /that/ long. Try and get an SRU :-) | 13:47 |
| marga | Laney, thanks! | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | (I wouldn't put quite as much stock in the queue ordering as you do, BTW - it's not uncommon for sponsors not to work in the obvious order) | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | I certainly often do easiest first | 13:48 |
| marga | ok :) | 13:48 |
| micahg | and backports is certainly not a queue | 13:49 |
| marga | I'm hoping to get upload rights to universe, but first I need to clear some stuff regarding copyright at my current job. | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | after that it shouldn't be too difficult for a DD | 13:49 |
| Laney | yeah, also that wouldn't strictly help for backports | 13:52 |
| Laney | unless you also decided to join the backporters | 13:53 |
| marga | I think it would be helpful. | 13:53 |
| Laney | we certainly wouldn't turn down competent help | 13:53 |
| marga | Just so it's clear, I work for a derivative distro and we intend to use precise, probably until the next LTS, so having access to uploading patches to precise-backports would make my life easier and happier. | 13:54 |
| Laney | You should be aware that myunity is a special case because it's removed from Q. Generally we backport packages wholesale. | 13:55 |
| marga | Yes, I know. | 13:55 |
| Laney | so it's not "uploading patches" in the usual sense | 13:55 |
| marga | Right. | 13:55 |
| micahg | we could consider PPU rights in precise which would grant backports uploading privs (bugs would still have to be filed and such, but would just need a review/acceptance in queue) | 13:57 |
| Laney | well, that logically extends to all uploaders | 13:58 |
| Laney | which brings us closer to the Debian model... maybe that's alright | 13:59 |
| marga | I don't understand exactly what micahg suggested. | 13:59 |
| Laney | extending the set of people who can directly upload backports | 14:00 |
| marga | per package? | 14:00 |
| Laney | yeah | 14:00 |
| marga | Isn't that too complicated? | 14:00 |
| Laney | which probably isn't what you're after, since you indicated that you want to go for MOTU | 14:00 |
| Laney | the ACL is technically the same across components | 14:00 |
| Laney | I haven't given it much consideration from a policy POV | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | Well, as you say this is just social policy; if you can upload $package to $series then you can upload it to $series-backports too, as far as the ACLs are concerned | 14:02 |
| Laney | it will still always land in the queue to be approved by a backporter | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | Sure | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | But that probably isn't a big deal | 14:03 |
| Laney | I think that is what we want in any event | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | (Queue review's easier than sponsoring) | 14:03 |
| Laney | We look for some specific things in backports bugs though (which requestbackport gives you checkboxes for) | 14:05 |
| * jokerdino pokes. | 14:05 | |
| Laney | So it would be good if most uploaders were aware of this if we were to extend the set | 14:05 |
| jokerdino | i was looking at minitube src a while ago and they don't have any patch :| | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | hmm? | 14:07 |
| jokerdino | they just imported from upstream | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | <cjwatson@sarantium ~/minitube-1.7>$ ls debian/patches/ | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | assure-quit-keybinding disable-update-check gcc-4.7.patch proper-tempfiles series | 14:07 |
| jokerdino | and given recent changes for Youtube API, the one in quantal wouldn't work | 14:07 |
| jokerdino | cjwatson: the same patches exist in 1.9 in debian | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | bug 1057718, I guess | 14:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1057718 in minitube (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync minitube 1.9-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057718 | 14:08 |
| jokerdino | yes that | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | jokerdino: your comment was sufficiently ambiguous that I genuinely didn't understand what you were talking about at first | 14:08 |
| jokerdino | i am extremely sorry. | 14:09 |
| jokerdino | was on another room :| | 14:09 |
| jokerdino | anyway, i tried building it and it fails. | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | I'm reviewing the feature freeze exception now | 14:10 |
| jokerdino | thank you | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | jokerdino: I guess your build environment must be wonky somehow, or else it's an architecture-specific failure; it builds cleanly in a quantal/i386 sbuild chroot. | 14:25 |
| jokerdino | ah, it fails on amd64 | 14:26 |
| jokerdino | i was using pbuilder amd64 | 14:26 |
| * cjwatson kicks off an amd64 test build | 14:26 | |
| cjwatson | how did it fail? | 14:27 |
| jokerdino | i'll test it again. | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | don't bother, mine's running | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | it was only if you already had it | 14:27 |
| jokerdino | i did but closed it. | 14:28 |
| cjwatson | jokerdino: Builds fine on quantal/amd64 too. | 14:40 |
| jokerdino | should be a PEBKAC then | 14:41 |
| jokerdino | bah, i purged the minitube source. too lazy to download it again | 14:41 |
| jtaylor | what happened to default-jdk in ubuntu? | 14:54 |
| jtaylor | or what should be used instead now? | 14:54 |
| micahg | hrm? | 14:55 |
| micahg | jamespage: ^^ | 14:55 |
| jtaylor | it can't be installed in quantal | 14:55 |
| jamespage | jtaylor, still there as far as I can see | 14:55 |
| micahg | wfm in a clean chroot... | 14:56 |
| jtaylor | hm maybe I messed up my indices | 14:56 |
| Laney | indeed | 14:56 |
| jtaylor | was playing around with ports before | 14:56 |
| jtaylor | a it works now sorry for the noise | 14:57 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: okay, well, then perhaps you can suggest another solution, that doesn't depend on dpkg-vendor? | 15:38 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: perhaps "lsb_release -si" | 15:40 |
| micahg | kirkland: you need a binary depends on lsb-release for that | 16:49 |
| micahg | bdrung: why did you tell that person to get those bugs for new packages in the sponsorship queue when they need an FFe? | 16:54 |
| ScottK | Particularly when the odds of a new package FFe at this point are 'very small'. | 17:11 |
| * micahg sees them as candidates for backports | 17:12 | |
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| jtaylor | someone got a machine with sse4? | 18:32 |
| jtaylor | I'd like to fix bug 1027977 but can't reproduce it on my machine :( | 18:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1027977 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "strstr() function produces wrong results under valgrind callgrind" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027977 | 18:33 |
| micahg | jtaylor: sse4_1 sse4_2 ? | 18:33 |
| jtaylor | yes | 18:33 |
| * micahg doesn't have time for anything complicated ATM though | 18:34 | |
| jtaylor | hm lets see if amazon as a suitable machine ._. | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | is quantal backports open already? | 18:37 |
| micahg | yes | 18:38 |
| jtaylor | how does that work? | 18:38 |
| jtaylor | there is no series to copy from | 18:38 |
| micahg | unstable/experimental | 18:38 |
| micahg | but the requestbackport script doesn't recognize them yet | 18:38 |
| jtaylor | k, the usual procedure file bug and wait 6 month? ;) | 18:38 |
| micahg | well, wait until the backporters see it, Laney's been busy with release duties and I'm trying to finish up stuff so I can +1 | 18:40 |
| micahg | s/see/have time to process/ | 18:40 |
| Laney | join the team? | 18:54 |
| jtaylor | I was thinking about that | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | though I doubt I could put much time in it | 18:56 |
| jtaylor | great valgrind breaks if rebuilt | 19:03 |
| jtaylor | mmh memory corroption | 19:11 |
| jtaylor | lets see if I can run valgrind on valgrind | 19:12 |
| Laney | ah, good ctte | 19:15 |
| ScottK | Laney: ? | 20:00 |
| Laney | ScottK: The Python question was put to rest finally | 20:01 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 20:01 |
| * ScottK looks. | 20:01 | |
| ScottK | Not a bad ending. | 20:03 |
| Laney | aye | 20:05 |
| jtaylor | success :D | 20:10 |
| jtaylor | ops valgrind isn#t universe | 20:31 |
| micahg | jtaylor: I can sponsor if it's bug fix | 20:42 |
| jtaylor | its bugfix | 20:42 |
| jtaylor | quite important even | 20:42 |
| micahg | jtaylor: bug # w/debdiff? | 20:46 |
| micahg | jtaylor: also, if I sponsor, you take responsibility to fix any fallout as I won't be available until after final freeze | 20:47 |
| jtaylor | https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/quantal/valgrind/various-fixes/+merge/128314 | 20:47 |
| micahg | jtaylor: do you agree to take responsibility for any fallout resulting from the upload? | 20:50 |
| jtaylor | k | 20:51 |
| micahg | ok, looks good | 20:51 |
| jtaylor | all fixes are from upstream/debian | 20:51 |
| micahg | right, I don't expect any, but I won't be available :) | 20:52 |
| cjwatson | Hah, apparently I dodged having to be on record one way or the other on the Python question by forgetting to read my -ctte mailbox. :-/ | 20:56 |
| cjwatson | But my preferred option on the ballot won so that's OK. | 20:59 |
| dlentz | i would like to discuss bug 1060813 | 21:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1060813 in youtube-dl (Ubuntu) "[SRU, precise] Current version (2012.02.27) doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060813 | 21:16 |
| jtaylor | micahg: as we are on the topic suggestion on what to do with minitube? | 21:16 |
| jtaylor | its broken in quantal and fixed in unstable | 21:16 |
| jtaylor | we could sync the major update, and hope it won't break again | 21:16 |
| jtaylor | or remove it | 21:16 |
| micahg | well, if we can get an MRE, I'd say sync latest version and keep up to date | 21:17 |
| micahg | otherwise, remove, but not blacklist, and we can throw it in backports | 21:17 |
| * micahg wanted an MRE for gnash as well | 21:18 | |
| micahg | but it seems development on it has slowed | 21:18 |
| jtaylor | for the mre there is the question who files it, I really don't care about them ._. | 21:18 |
| jtaylor | but I do care about packages being unusable in the archive | 21:18 |
| micahg | cjwatson: would the tech board IYHO be willing to grant an MRE to something like minitube and youtube-dl which need to be kept up to date and belong in something like volatile? | 21:19 |
| cjwatson | jtaylor: I already granted an FFe for the minitube update | 21:19 |
| jtaylor | just saw it in the list | 21:20 |
| cjwatson | micahg: we've established the general principle in the past; I expect it would depend on having a developer take responsibility more than anything else | 21:20 |
| cjwatson | I'd rather we updated it properly in the mainline repositories rather than going to the effort of creating a volatile, though | 21:20 |
| micahg | cjwatson: well, I would think it's in archive or backports | 21:21 |
| dlentz | cjwatson that's why I SRU'd | 21:21 |
| cjwatson | I don't see why it shouldn't be updateable in -updates | 21:21 |
| * jtaylor syncing minitube | 21:23 | |
| tumbleweed | kirkland: I'm fine with that approach for now :) | 23:30 |
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