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* infinity feeds the poor, lonely buildds.00:21
infinitycjwatson: Argh.00:33
infinitycjwatson: Did you overzealously remove linux from -proposed?00:34
infinitycjwatson: Yup, you sure did. :/00:35
infinitywgrant: So, silly copying tricks.  Is there a clever way to get https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.5.0-17.27/+publishinghistory undeleted?00:35
infinitywgrant: With bonus points for having it back before the builds complete? ;)00:36
wgrantinfinity: If the source is deleted, then yeah00:36
infinitywgrant: It is.00:36
wgrantUse copy-package's version argument00:36
wgrantThe API doesn't require the package to not be deleted00:36
wgrantIt's possible that your copy-package script does, but you can just hack that check out if it whinges00:37
wgrantcopy-package -b -e 3.5.0-17.27 --to-suite=quantal-proposed linux00:37
wgrantI think00:37
infinityI had a -s quantal-proposed in mine too..00:38
* infinity knocks that out.00:38
wgrantThat's probably just used to find the origin version00:38
wgrantSo it should be irrelevant when -e is specified00:39
wgrantBut checking00:39
* infinity comments some bits out.00:41
wgrantAh, so find_latest_published_source requires -s and that the package be currently published00:41
infinityOh, hrm.  Yeah.00:42
wgrantI'd just eliminate that and use options.version directly in copy_packages00:42
wgrantRemove the find_latest_published_source call00:42
infinityAnd more to the point, I can't just comment those bits out, cause it's used for versions too.00:42
wgrant                    source_name=package, version=source.source_package_version,00:42
wgrantversion=options.version00:42
wgrantdone00:42
infinityYeah, just did that. :P00:42
infinityAlright, that may or may not have just done... Something.00:43
wgrantinfinity, ScottK: BTW, the copier diff bug that broke both your binary revival attempts was fixed yesterday, will be on production next week00:44
wgrantinfinity: You copied it twice00:44
wgrantinfinity: It's in Unapproved now00:44
infinityTwice?  Go me.00:44
infinitywgrant: The billion dollar question is what this will do to the builds.00:44
wgrantinfinity: If you copied with -b, nothing00:45
wgrantThey should continue and then be accepted fine00:45
wgrantNo new ones will be created00:45
infinitywgrant: Sure, and the two that already failed due to being for superseded source?00:45
infinitywgrant: Need SQL intervention to kick them back to needs-build? :/00:45
wgrant2012-10-05 00:45:18 INFO    Job:00:46
wgrant<PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package linux from ubuntu/primary to ubuntu/primary, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu quantal, including binaries>00:46
wgrantraised CannotCopy:00:46
wgrantlinux 3.5.0-17.27 in quantal (source has no binaries to be copied)00:46
wgrantIt was copied before there were any binaries at all?00:46
infinityJust builds, no binaries.00:46
infinityIt was deleted before any builds completed.00:46
infinityhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.5.0-17.2700:46
wgrantAh, OK00:46
wgrantTrying to load, LP not being forgiving00:46
wgrantBut copy without -b00:46
wgrantSince there are no binaries in either suite, a source-only copy will work fine00:47
wgrantBut you are correct that the amd64/i386 builds will need manual recovery00:47
infinityBugger.00:47
wgrantFor added fun, we have no ops00:47
infinityWe have GSAs.00:47
wgrantWe do00:48
infinityIf you know the magic required.00:48
wgrantAnd I guess we have bigjools to approve00:48
wgrantBut we have no webops or lifeless00:48
wgrantSo, copy without -b00:48
wgrantTo get the soruce back and salvage the other three builds00:48
infinityI haven't surgerised that table in years.00:48
wgrantIt's a really easy query. I'll just set them to failed, then retry.00:48
infinityCheck.00:48
infinityNew copy accepted.00:48
wgrantNo need to mess with the buildqueue etc.00:49
wgrantlinux 3.5.0-17.27 in quantal (same version already building in the destination archive for Quantal)00:49
wgrantblaaargh00:49
wgrantYeah, this isn't going to work :/00:49
wgrantIf there was a single binary in the initial copy it would have been fine.00:49
infinityOh, bah.00:49
wgrantBut since it was copied with nothing, we're stuck00:49
infinityHrm.  What if I just copy it to release?  Will that suffer the same issue?00:50
infinityIt's not an ABI change, there's no real reason it needs to be in proposed.00:50
wgrantCopy what to release?00:50
infinityThe source.00:50
wgrantOh, it's not already there?00:50
infinityOr will it still have a sad about it being currently building?00:50
infinityNo, it's in proposed.00:50
infinityWell, it WAS in proposed, and that's where I was copying it to.00:50
wgrantI assumed it was deleted from proposed because it was copied to release00:51
wgrantBut I see now it's entirely gone.00:51
wgrantThe release copy will fail the same way00:51
infinityNo, it was deleted from proposed because the previous version was moved to release, and Colin wasn't paying attention. :P00:51
wgrantHeh00:51
infinitySo, if all the builds were to spontaenously fail, would that help us any?00:51
infinityOr is "building in destination" not actually what it says?00:52
wgrantA source-only copy will work if the builds are all failed00:53
infinityThat, I can do.00:53
wgrantSo if you want to kill those three, you can copy it back into proposed source-only, retry the builds, and then we can fix the x86 stuff00:53
wgrantThey need to actually be failed, though, not just not building.00:53
infinitywgrant: They'll be failed shortly.  If DarrenS loves me.00:54
wgrantAlthough it's not directly relevant here, builds will complete and upload successfully as long as the source is published somewhere in the archive. The suite doesn't necessarily need to match00:57
wgrantAnd you can then use the binary revival trick (once the bugfix is deployed) to copy them into the right pocket.00:57
infinitywgrant: And that would be more interesting if I could have rescued the source in the first place. ;)00:58
wgrantYeah00:58
infinitywgrant: Oh, and it's going to have to be SQL surgery on i386, amd64, and powerpc.  The latter finished while we were talking.00:59
wgrantYeah, so I saw01:00
infinityAnd armel and armhf now dead.01:00
infinityWell, armhf is in the death throes...01:00
wgrantarmhf still seems alive01:00
* infinity waits.01:00
wgrantYeah01:00
wgrantOnce it's failed properly, retry the source-only copy01:00
* wgrant prepares SQL01:01
infinityThere.01:01
wgrantBuildStatus.SUPERSEDED should possibly be retriable nowadays, since it is possible to unsupersede things01:02
wgrantBut it's historically been our go-to status for making builds unretriable.01:02
* infinity accepts and crosses his fingers.01:03
wgrant2012-10-05 01:03:17 INFO    Ran 1 PlainPackageCopyJob jobs.01:04
wgrantIt worked.01:04
infinityIt did indeed.  And beat the publisher by a matter of seconds.01:05
* infinity fires up the ARM builds again.01:05
infinitywgrant: Right, all looks snazzy.  Whenever you can make the SQL mojo go, that'd be nice.  You have a couple of hours of slack time, thanks to those builds being wildly faster than armhf. :P01:08
wgrantHeh01:08
infinity^-- lolwut?02:26
infinityOh, that's the amd64 build, queuebot's confused.02:27
ScottKwgrant: Thanks.  Both for the quick turn around and the update.03:18
micahgBug #1057518 has UI changes, could someone tell me if a UIFe is needed?03:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 1057518 in onboard "debian.tar.gz supplied: New upstream release 0.98.1 available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105751803:59
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micahgis 'Added NVIDIA driver detection' to checkbox called a feature?04:17
* micahg rings the bell on the counter to see if anyone is around :)04:18
RAOFThat sounds like a feature to me, but I'm not exactly on the release team.04:18
micahgright, which is why I'm asking :)04:20
ScottKmicahg: Yes and yes.04:28
micahgScottK: thanks for the confirmation :)04:28
infinityIt's a feature for sure, but depending on the size of the code, and how obviously unbroken it seems, it may be FFeable.04:33
micahglooks FFeable, just wasn't sure if that qualified as a feature for checkbox04:36
infinityPretty much any new code that isn't directly fixing a bug that could only be fixed by refactoring a bit is a "feature", to be fair.04:37
infinityThat was a convoluted sentence.04:37
micahgfair enough :)04:37
ScottKinfinity: I'm working on some no change rebuilds so we can get the binaries that got missed when Riddell prematurely copied from proposed (you can see the first one ^^^).  I'd appreciate if you could push them through.04:45
infinityScottK: I'm working on wandering away from my computer and killing brain cells with gin, but I'll poke at things randomly when I come back.04:46
ScottKThanks, but you know what gin is made from, right?04:46
infinityScottK: Love.04:46
ScottKJuniper berries.04:46
infinityScottK: And love.04:47
ScottKAnd do you know what juniper berries are?04:47
ScottKThey are poisonous.04:47
ScottKJust saying.04:47
infinitySo are tomatoes, in large enough quantity, doesn't stop people from eating 'em.04:47
ScottKShortly after one of my brothers graduated from high school he got sick enough from gin that for years afterwards all you had to do way say the word and he would turn pale.04:49
ScottK;-)04:49
micahgscottk: did you want to review kaffeine in precise-proposed? (when you're done with your no change rebuilds)?04:56
ScottKDepends on if I run out of steam or not.04:57
micahghrm, i'm guessing I need a UIFe to upload Bug #621204  as well05:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 621204 in im-switch "Typo in error string" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62120405:16
ScottKmicahg: Done.05:29
ScottKBTW, that's it for the KDE rebuilds for missing binaries.  Maybe if the gin gets infinity, Riddell will tend to them once he wakes up.05:30
micahgscottk: thanks05:39
cjwatsoninfinity: argh sorry06:39
cjwatsoninfinity: we really should make pending-sru's recommendation be to remove by version06:42
apwcjwatson, infinity, linux-signed above is the packaging half of the signing changes; if you would review w07:48
apw(so much for waiting till it appeared)07:48
infinitycjwatson: Did you want to review the linux/amd64 in unapproved, since you have a vague idea of WTF should be in the tarball? ;)07:52
cjwatsonI suppose I'd better07:53
cjwatson" Archive admins should review the corresponding source upload for correctness prior to approving these uploads"07:53
cjwatsonBRB in a week07:53
infinityI reviewed the source and it seemed vaguely sane...07:54
infinityBut, I'm not as well-versed in how this is all meant to work.07:54
* apw notes there is at least the correct extra binary in the upload07:55
apw(in the linux/amd64 binary)07:55
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Laneycjwatson: -e default> yes please. I don't think I've wanted the prefix/substring/whatever behaviour yet.08:15
infinityI use it for langpacks.08:16
infinityBut that's a perfectly reasonable sort of use-case for pattern-matching being an argument, not the inverse.08:16
LaneyYep.08:16
cjwatsonlinux/amd64 accepted now.  Distracted by an argument, sorry.08:29
cjwatsonWait, why didn't that work08:29
cjwatsonSigh.  Accepted by id, can't be bothered to debug why by name didn't work08:30
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RiddellScottK: I'm confused, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps/4:4.9.2-0ubuntu4 exists but is not on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps09:04
Riddelloh wait, it just appeared09:04
Riddellgood I guess that's sorted, thanks much for doing that09:04
cjwatsonWhat happened with those KDE builds?  Were they copied in advance of pending-sru saying that all the builds were done?09:09
cjwatson(And could somebody have a look through my 30 no-change rebuilds in the queue?)09:10
Riddellcjwatson: yes I copied them early which apparantly confuses launchpad09:10
Laneydoing09:11
LaneyI added a --names-only to queue locally so that I can loop over queuediff09:11
cjwatsonRiddell: Yeah, please don't do that, that's why we have pending-sru list the build states09:11
Riddellcjwatson: where is pending-sru?09:12
cjwatsonhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html09:12
cjwatsonsection near the bottom for quantal09:12
Laneydoes queuediff cache the fact that there's no diff available?09:21
cjwatsonI think it tends to run into proxy trouble a good bit09:22
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ScottKFound one more KDE package needs rebuilding.11:10
ScottKRiddell: kdepim-runtime should appear forthwith.11:11
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ScottKFound another one.11:46
ScottKsmokekde should be along in a moment.11:46
LaneyWhat's the barrier for desktop interface freeze?11:50
Laneyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopInfrastructureFreeze "no further fixes"11:50
cjwatsons/interface/infrastructure/11:50
Laneyyeah11:50
cjwatsonIMO anything that doesn't affect the users of that infrastructure shouldn't count: e.g. FTBFS fixes11:50
cjwatsonI mean I would see that as an obvious case for an exception11:51
Laneyso I have a fix for a crash in a library which occurs on non-default setups11:51
Laneycan I upload that, for example?11:51
ScottKWhere did that come from?11:51
Laneythe fix?11:51
ScottKThe freeze11:51
Laneyoh, I'm not really sure about it11:52
cjwatsonI lose track.11:52
ScottKThat doesn't even make sense.11:52
cjwatsonLaney: I would upload it for review if I were you.11:52
LaneyI feel like I should understand it so that I can review stuff too11:53
ScottKI've no idea what the bounds of desktop infrastructure are either.11:53
ScottKLaney: Don't worry, you're not the only one.11:53
cjwatsonIt feels like "hey can we not have lots of unity churn after here"11:54
cjwatsonBut it's not well-phrased.11:54
ScottKWe already have a freeze that's supposed to cover that.11:55
ScottKFeature freeze.11:55
phillwcjwatson: have you had any feed back from kernel / X-org team re: PPC?12:32
cjwatsonphillw: No; you'll need to chase them if you want an answer, as I absolutely don't have time12:43
phillwcjwatson: Thanks, I'll go in to full nagging mode :) If that fails, would you allow the change? (It would be, as you state, a 'bodge job' instead of a fix)12:45
cjwatsonphillw: No, I want an ack from one of those teams one way or the other telling me what to do12:51
cjwatsonI'm not going to take responsibility for changing those boot parameters without that, given that I don't really understand them12:51
cjwatsonSo I want at least *one* of our relevant developers to look it over and tell me what they think, even if they don't fix the underlying bug(s)12:52
cjwatsonWithout that I'm afraid I'm going to leave it as it is, on the basis that currently I'm hearing from people who are broken by the current setting, but for all I know some different group of people might be broken by the change12:53
phillwcjwatson: and we both know that one will blame the other...12:53
cjwatson(And obviously I wouldn't hear from the latter until after changing things)12:53
phillwcjwatson: shame they were not on the 24 hour marathon. Would have been a really good time to bash heads together.12:56
cjwatsonWhat, when people are low on sleep?  Doesn't seem like a good time to me ...12:57
phillwcjwatson: I got in early :)12:57
cjwatsonI don't want a coerced or thoughtless answer; I want an actual one12:57
phillwcjwatson: so do I... So, why do -kernel and -xorg keep kicking the critical bugs into the 'long grass'?12:59
phillwcjwatson:12:59
phillwcjwatson: A3 worked, these bugs are 100% regression issues.13:00
cjwatsonI expect they're upstream regressions that have not been reported coherently to the right people13:00
cjwatsonPlease stop asking me - I don't know13:01
cjwatsonTalk to them13:01
phillwcjwatson: I do apologise, I do get frustrated at times. May I repeat that you are "one of the good guys" for trying to keep a PPC release going. I do not say 'thank-you' often enough. You really are a star.13:04
* smartboyhw nods in agreement:P13:05
cjwatsonI'm not fishing for compliments or anything - it's just that the best way I can help is to encourage you to talk to the people who actually have useful knowledge13:06
* ogra_ shudders seeing Laney approved bug 99977113:29
ubot2Launchpad bug 999771 in myunity "myunity depends upon DISTRIB_RELEASE being the second entry in /etc/lsb-release" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99977113:29
Laneyk13:30
ogra_they should have used lsb_release -r13:31
micahgthat would require a runtime dependency on lsb-release13:33
Laneyindeed13:33
ogra_sure13:33
Laneythe fix in there is miles better than it was13:33
cjwatsonHmm, this tickles a memory somewhere13:33
Laneycjwatson: your name is indeed invoked in the bug :-)13:33
micahg(which is in minimal, so shouldn't matter too much), but running the command is usually slower though13:33
cjwatsonI have a distinct feeling I remember a bug related to assuming /etc/lsb-release was shell13:33
ogra_but its a tool to manage unity ... which surely pulls in some python already13:33
cjwatsonLaney: an older memory :)13:34
Laneyheh13:34
ogra_so adding lsb-release as a dep shouldnt add much13:34
micahgchromium used it for a while (don't remember if it still does or not)13:34
micahgogra_: the problem is lsb_release is slow13:34
ogra_oh, come on ...13:34
cjwatsonI'm going to have to grep my upload mailboxes :-/13:35
smartboyhwskaet, er release meeting today?13:35
ogra_its a one time check in a gui tool13:35
Laneyit's hardly a terrible fix13:35
Laneypeople coming out of the woodwork immediately after the upload rather than the weeks when the patches were available ...13:35
micahgogra_: it should really be generated at build time IMHO13:35
cjwatsonLaney: the one worry I have is that my memory is that this may be crashy on some flavours13:35
ogra_micahg, ++13:35
cjwatsonI'm trying to find the history to see if it's this I'm thinking of or something else13:35
dokoLaney, use /etc/os-release ... the format is defined13:37
ogra_doko, but only available in quantal13:37
cjwatsonbug 21486113:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 214861 in localechooser "expects to be able to source /etc/lsb-release" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21486113:37
cjwatsonLaney: ^-13:37
dokowell, I'll see to backport this then to precise13:38
Laneyaha13:38
cjwatsonLaney: localechooser has some battle-tested shell code for this13:38
cjwatsonwhich matches the python implementation afaik13:38
Laneyperhaps you want to inform marga13:38
cjwatsonyeah13:38
cjwatsonLaney: Done.  Sorry for being late, but associative memory over four years takes a while to respond sometimes13:42
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Laneycjwatson: Ta. It's an interesting data structure that has such a fast membership operation, but much slower lookup performance13:45
cjwatsonLaney: That's a hash :-)13:47
cjwatsonIn the crypto sense - you can check whether you have the ciphertext, but getting back from that to the plaintext is hard ...13:48
LaneyAlso here the membership test is probablistic, and the hashes get harder to crack over time :P13:52
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skaetsmartboyhw - yes there is a release meeting today14:16
smartboyhwskaet, thanks14:16
dokoskaet, for a gcc-4.7 update, which should go to -updates ... can I upload to -proposed? or just prepare and build in the ubuntu-toolchain-r ppa?14:23
cjwatsonIf you upload to -proposed at the moment, there's a decent chance somebody running on autopilot will copy it to release14:24
skaetdoko,  please do it in the ppa,14:24
dokook14:24
tumbleweednot that I tend to be particularly active at release meetings, but advance notice: I almost certainly can't make it14:35
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skaethmm....   do we want to reject the nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra3 in unapproved queue,  until the source version in the new queue is processed?16:24
ogra_skaet, ?16:25
ogra_one is tegra, the other is tegra316:25
ogra_tegra3 is completely new16:25
ogra_-tegra is just a package update for the tegra2 drivers16:25
skaetogra_  Thanks!   ok,  missed that "3", and thought somethin weird was going on since the versions looked the same.16:25
ogra_yeah, i was pondering to name them -cardhu and -ventana (teh work names for the tegras) ... but then tegra2 would have had so much extra paperwork (new source etc)16:26
skaetogra_ what's the bug associated the tegra3 ones?   would like to read the backstory.16:27
ogra_i wanted to save us from that ... though i agree the naming isnt great :)16:27
ogra_skaet, identical code, same bug16:27
ogra_i would have filesd a tegra3 task, but thats only possible once a source package is in the archive16:27
ogra_*filed16:27
skaetfair enough.   Thanks for the background16:28
ogra_skaet, the libas have now a SONAME field (never had that before) but that doesnt have the correct contant16:28
ogra_sigh, my typing degrades every day16:28
* skaet just sees that a flood of langpacks has hit the unapproved queue.... :P16:29
ogra_skaet, if you run ldconfig on them, the broken info lands in ld.so.cache16:29
ogra_if an app looks for libEGL.so.1 ld only knows about libEGL.so16:30
ogra_so the app cant run16:30
skaetLaney,  would you mind taking a look at the libunity that seems to be in the unapproved queue?16:33
* skaet takes her turn letting through some rebuilds 16:36
roadmrmicahg: sorry to pester you, we FFed bug 1060211 if you want to have a look,  depending on what happens with that I'll resubmit the merge for checkbox 0.14.816:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 1060211 in checkbox "[FFe] graphics_driver script does not report proprietary driver version" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106021116:37
ogra_thanks !16:38
apwinfinity, cjwatson, i have updated linux-signed to add the postinst/postrm and linux-image binary dependancies16:41
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micahgroadmr: IANA release team member16:49
* micahg can sponsor once approved16:49
roadmrmicahg: oh ok! thanks anyway!16:50
* skaet starts wading through RIddell's langpack changes...17:13
* iulian is reviewing the other ones.17:14
iulianWell, not all of them. :)17:15
smoserhi. can i get an approval on a cloud-init upload ?17:15
cjwatsonUpload it first then we'll review it17:15
smoserhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/cloud-init/0.7.0-0ubuntu217:15
cjwatsonOr is it that one in the queue?17:15
smosershould be in queue17:15
smoseryes.17:16
cjwatsonsmoser: accepted17:17
skaetcjwatson, can you take the linux signed one too?17:17
cjwatsonYep, looking17:18
skaetta17:18
skaethmm... is queuebot acting up again?17:18
* skaet accepted a couple and not seeing them.17:18
infinityUgh.17:19
cjwatsonWhich?17:19
infinityScottK: There seems to be an explosion of KDE-related things that want to come back to main.17:19
cjwatsoninfinity: Ugh, what.  language packs maybe?17:20
cjwatsonNo ...17:20
micahglangpacks in main are part of it17:20
cjwatsonWell, maybe17:20
cjwatsonWhat the heck is the root cause of all that17:20
micahgaccording to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg :)17:20
infinitylangpacks and kde4libs->kate.17:20
skaetthey were labeled universe17:21
cjwatsonThis is the tool that does the labelling17:21
infinitySo, the langpack bit is simple to fix.  Let's go see what changed to make the other bit happen.17:21
skaetok,  will leave them for infinity to sort.17:22
smoserthank you.17:22
cjwatsonHm, yes, language-pack-kde-zh-* might be the cause of the lot17:22
cjwatsonubuntu.quantal/usb-live: * /^language-pack-[^-]+-zh-han/17:22
cjwatsonThat plus (presumably) a new dependency?17:22
infinityYou'd think...17:23
* skaet shakes her head at the kate package name, and see the potential for confusion.17:23
cjwatsonYeah, that would account for it17:24
cjwatsonFix that seed and I think everything else should follow17:24
skaetok17:24
infinityYeah, I'm not seeing the kde4libs->kate thing.17:24
infinityThe fancy svg might be lying.17:25
cjwatsonThe rest is all the effect of Extra-Includes, I believe17:25
cjwatsonPull in enough stuff and the auto-"include -dbg" stuff kicks in and drags in half the world17:25
cjwatsonAlso, stuff.17:25
infinityHave you already mangled the seed, or shall I?17:25
cjwatsonNo, go ahead.  I'm too woozy for regexps.17:26
infinityI've so far failed to wake up this morning.17:26
infinityI'm out of bed only to prove I'm not dead. ;)17:26
infinityBut, let's regex away.17:26
* infinity wonders why that regex is there at all...17:29
cjwatsonProbably made sense once.17:29
infinityI suspect that replacing the zh-han regex with /^language-pack-gnome-zh-han/ will fix it all up nicely.17:32
* infinity will do a quick before-and-after germinate for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu and check.17:33
cjwatsonAgreed.17:33
iuliangilir: Have you uploaded pcmanfm as well? I can only see libfm in the queue.17:35
iuliangilir: Nevermind, saw it.17:36
bdmurraycould somebody have a look at approving my update-manager uploads to p and o proposed?17:47
infinitybdmurray: Sure, I'll trade you those for my eglibc upload to precise.17:50
infinitybdmurray: (Which is a combination of the 10.1 that was previously accepted and then superseded by the security update, the 10.2 security update, and then two small patches from the recent quantal)17:51
kenvandinethe latest upload for aptdaemon ftbfs because of failing tests, i tried building the latest built version and it now ftbfs as well17:51
kenvandineanyone have suggestions for someone that might be around that has messed with aptdaemon in the past?17:52
bdmurrayinfinity: the changelog entry for update-manager is longer than the change - I'm not sure this a good deal17:52
kenvandineor... if we can turn off those tests until mvo can look at it on monday, so we get some better testing of webapps over the weekend?17:52
kenvandinethe tests fail for the current published version of aptdaemon anyway, so that isn't a regression17:53
kenvandinebut i would really like to be able to get more testing for webapps17:53
infinitybdmurray: It's probably a bum rap for you, but someone needs to accept that eglibc, and I'm pretty sure it's not allowed to be me (even if I've verified a few times that the diff is sane). :P17:54
kenvandineskaet, ^^17:54
cjwatsonkenvandine: I'll have a look either tonight or tomorrow if nobody else does17:56
cjwatsonPlease don't disable tests17:56
kenvandineok17:56
kenvandinei didn't want to... just couldn't find anyone to look at it that knew their way around17:56
kenvandinecjwatson, thanks!17:57
kenvandinethe more testing we can get for webapps, the better :)17:57
infinitybdmurray: Uhm, your precise-proposed update imported quantal sources.17:57
infinitybdmurray: I'm thinking that was unintentional, given the changelog.17:58
bdmurrayinfinity: yes, I'm not sure how that happened18:02
infinitybdmurray: oneiric looks good, though.18:02
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infinitybdmurray: Given the tininess of the diff, I'd probably not mess with pre-upload magic at all, and just apply it directly to the source package, but whatever workflow helps you sleep better...18:05
bdmurrayIt looks like something in utils/demotions.py - I'll try and sort it out18:09
skaetthanks kenvandine, cjwatson18:13
slangasekcjwatson: ^^ new shim with changed path for second stage, as requested18:27
bdmurrayinfinity: ^18:53
slangasekself-accepting shim (time-sensitive, can't break anything yet because we're still putting it in place)18:54
Davieyshimmy it in!18:55
kenvandineDaviey, :-D18:57
skaetslangasek, well, I'd trust your review over mine on the subject, at any rate. :P19:04
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slangasekinfinity, bdmurray: does eglibc still need looking at?19:17
infinityslangasek: Looks like bdmurray got to it for me.19:17
infinityslangasek: You're free. :)19:17
slangasekah ok19:17
infinity(Free to keep hating secure boot...)19:17
slangaseksorry, was a bit tied up this morning :P19:17
* skaet --> dr. appt. back on later. 19:22
slangasekDaviey: mm, why does http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt show maas having a dependency on a package not in main?19:28
slangasek(ipmitool)19:28
Davieyslangasek: because that is the intention of the report, it shows packages that depend or recommend on universe packages.. And candidates for demotion.. but i know you know that?19:32
slangasekDaviey: I'm trying to figure out why we're two weeks before release and there's a package in main with a dependency on a package that's never been in main, and I find no MIR for it19:33
Laneyslangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipmitool/+bug/104068219:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 1040682 in ipmitool "[MIR] ipmitool" [High,Invalid]19:33
slangasekah, I didn't check 'invalid'19:34
Davieyslangasek: it's being replaced with freeipmi on next upload, covered by MIR 105205619:34
Davieybug 105205619:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 1052056 in freeipmi "[FFe] [MIR] freeipmi" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105205619:34
slangasekok19:34
Davieyslangasek: The debdiff for jdstrand's requirements is here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262079/ pending one more addition.. which is in progress19:35
Daviey(this was discussed in the release meeting, just a few hours ago)19:35
slangasekalright19:35
ScottKNo more KDE stuff on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal_outdate_all.txt21:04
ScottKRiddell: I think the copying misfire is all cleaned up now.21:04
Riddelloh great, many many thanks21:07
cjwatsonI already reviewed the minitube diff when granting its FFe, so accepted.21:26
jdstrandskaet: hmmm, final freeze is next tuesday? that is rough on the US...21:58
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