[11:06] <rick_h_> I might have to get a new hero in life https://github.com/RedTuna/breadability/commits/master
[11:14] <snap-l> why? because the old heroes taste awesome on a bed of sushi rice with a hint of wasabee and soy?
[11:17] <snap-l> note: have not read actual link. :)
[11:17] <rick_h_> well look at the link
[11:26] <snap-l> Wow, nice.
[11:35] <rick_h_> yea, I'll have to test that out but was on my todo list
[12:16] <brousch> My Thinkpad T420 came
[12:16] <brousch> Good stuff so far
[12:19] <rick_h_> whoa of the morning http://paste.mitechie.com/show/818/
[12:19] <rick_h_> brousch: welcome to the brotherhood!
[12:19] <brousch> I used Thinkpads from 2002 - 2008
[12:19] <rick_h_> oh, well welcome back to the brotherhood
[12:21] <brousch> Thanks!
[12:21] <brousch> 1600x900 is nice
[12:22] <snap-l> bittorrent for deployments? Interesting
[12:22] <snap-l> I would not have considered that an option
[12:23] <snap-l> Makes sense for them, though. THey have lots of peers and a butt-ton of data to get through
[12:23] <brousch> geez
[12:26] <brousch> oooh, 4 cores in this i5
[12:26] <rick_h_> yea, I remember back when they compiled their whole app into a 1GB and rsync'd
[12:26] <rick_h_> moving to bittorrent is kind of cool
[12:28] <rick_h_> so man, I'm feeling all open sourcy today. A guy is working on py3'ing breadability and I'm going out to lansing to meet a bookie fanboi from Germany this weekend.
[12:29] <snap-l> rick_h_: Ah, right. That'll be sweet.
[12:29] <snap-l> btw: the Chrome Extension needs reauth when moving between versions
[12:29] <snap-l> I noticed that at work and home. None of my stuff would work.
[12:29] <rick_h_> snap-l: between versinos of the extension?
[12:30] <snap-l> Between Chrome 22 and prior
[12:30] <rick_h_> snap-l: so setting up the options data?
[12:30] <brousch> But where will Py3 breadability be run?
[12:30] <rick_h_> brousch: on my laptop to start soon. I've got to upgrade to 12.10
[12:31] <rick_h_> with 3.3 out I really want to start getting stuff over
[12:31] <brousch> I mean no webhosts have py3 support
[12:31] <rick_h_> and it'll be time to undertake...bookie for py3
[12:31] <snap-l> Are the changes he made backward compatible with 2.7?
[12:31] <rick_h_> meh, I run all my own servers
[12:31] <rick_h_> snap-l: I don't know yet. I've got to look over it. Just caught the changes in my rss feed this morning
[12:31] <snap-l> Because I like the except as e syntax
[12:31] <brousch> I thought it was on heroku
[12:32] <rick_h_> brousch: well it also runs on heroku I guess in the readable app
[13:12] <jrwren_> snap-l: blizzard has been using bittorrent for deployments for years.
[13:13] <jrwren_> i just learned of this last year with starcraft2 updates.
[13:15] <snap-l> jrwren_: Iknew they were using it for updates, but wasn't aware of a datacenter using it
[13:15] <snap-l> but it makes perfect sense in retrospect.
[13:17] <snap-l> http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-DragonFly-Asynchronous-Digital-Audio-Converter/dp/B00882U782
[13:17] <snap-l> Saw this in BBC Music. Looks mildly interesting, though I'm not sure it's all that "awesome" running through a 3.5" jack.
[13:18] <jrwren_> cool that bittorrent works for htem.
[13:18] <jrwren_> at some point i wonder if they will out scale that and go to multicast
[13:18] <jrwren_> $254?!?!?!? wtf.
[13:19] <snap-l> jrwren_: Audiophile: One who pays money to listen to their music more carefully than the casual listener.
[13:19] <rick_h_> DAC's aren't cheap
[13:20] <jrwren_> dac's are DIRT cheap
[13:20] <rick_h_> not good ones
[13:20] <snap-l> Good DACs are more expensive
[13:20] <rick_h_> I was looking at them a while ago for podcast stuff
[13:20] <snap-l> but yeah, we're talking $, not $$$
[13:20] <jrwren_> i'm glad my ears aren't that good.
[13:21] <jrwren_> althought, i have heard bad dac before, was listening to flac adn comparing to CD. it should have sounded same, but the flac sounded terrible. it was the soundcard. :(
[13:22] <snap-l> What I love is Neil Young's crusade to get more people to listen to lossless audio
[13:22] <snap-l> but he goes off the rails by using something that isn't FLAC.
[13:23] <snap-l> jrwren_: There's a big difference between CD player sound and CDRom sound
[13:24] <jrwren_> it wasn't cdrom
[13:24] <jrwren_> what does he use? shorten? shorten is nice too
[13:24] <snap-l> It was something I'd not heard of before
[13:24] <jrwren_> apple lossless?:)
[13:24] <snap-l> but it's 24 / 96
[13:25] <jrwren_> meh
[13:25] <snap-l> Pno
[13:25] <snap-l> pono
[13:25] <rick_h_> yea, pono stuff
[13:26] <snap-l> Sorry, 192 / 24
[13:27] <snap-l> I can see this being another backdoor DRM bullshit system
[13:28] <rick_h_> oh come on, all the record labels are on board to resell you all your digital music again
[13:29] <snap-l> Why not use FLAC, which already has name recognition as being superior audio
[13:29] <snap-l> But hey, Pono. Rhymes with Bono.
[13:29] <rick_h_> because pono is the same sampling/etc of the studio
[13:29] <rick_h_> that's supposedly the goal with it
[13:29] <snap-l> And FLAC can do that.
[13:30] <snap-l> http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
[13:41] <jrwren_> snap-l++
[13:41] <jrwren_> "Of course you can trust your ears. It's brains that are gullible. I don't mean that flippantly; as human beings, we're all wired that way.
[13:53] <snap-l> Yeah, I've done A/B compares on remastered versions of albums. I'm as gullible as the rest at times. :)
[14:58] <snap-l> Time to check the couch cushions: http://www.jagsreport.com/2012/10/goldman-sachs-lowers-alcatel-lucent-to-conviction-sell-alu/
[15:03] <jrwren_> why? they are a worthless company.
[15:04] <jrwren_> everything of value is long sold, all IP is sold and any employees worth anything are long gone.
[15:04] <jrwren_> that company should have died a long time ago
[15:04] <snap-l> http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/10/02/this-just-in-upgrades-and-downgrades.aspx
[15:04] <snap-l> jrwren_: Yeah, we could buy it with pocket change
[15:04] <snap-l> then sue everyone with the patents
[15:04] <snap-l> PROFIT
[15:05] <jrwren_> even at $1/share it is still 2B Market cap :(
[15:05] <jrwren_> they don't have patents, they sold them all already.
[15:05] <snap-l> To who? I thought they still had 'em.
[15:05] <jrwren_> pretty sure to nearly everyone.
[15:06] <jrwren_> unsure about the alcatel IP, but lucent IP was sold AFAIK
[15:07] <jrwren_> you may be right though.
[15:07] <snap-l> I think they licensed, but I could be wrong
[15:07] <jrwren_> Lucent spun off a lot of IP when they spun off Avaya
[15:08] <jrwren_> same with Agere
[15:08] <snap-l> Oh yeah, they've been hemoraging
[15:08] <jrwren_> but that was 10 yrs ago
[15:08] <jrwren_> so the aquisitions over the last 10 yrs might be good.
[15:08] <jrwren_> lightRadio looks promising.
[15:09] <snap-l> Yeah, but they're betting the company on it
[15:09] <snap-l> and unfortunately the telecoms have frozen spending
[15:09] <jrwren_> yup
[15:10] <jrwren_> google should buy 'em :)
[15:10] <snap-l> They could definitely afford 'em
[15:11] <jrwren_> 18B in revenue, 6B in debt
[15:11] <jrwren_> but at least they are profitable
[15:11] <jrwren_> whoa... why is ALU so undervalued?
[15:11] <jrwren_> the fundametals looks reasonable.
[15:11] <jrwren_> .56 of book!!!
[15:12] <jrwren_> .13/$1 for sales.
[15:12] <snap-l> cash burn
[15:12] <jrwren_> CRAZY
[15:12] <snap-l> they're bleeding it
[15:12] <snap-l> That was the mantra the whole time I was there
[15:13] <jrwren_> that was long ago wasn' tit?
[15:13] <jrwren_> http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/10/02/is-alcatel-lucent-destined-for-greatness.aspx
[15:13] <snap-l> Not that long ago. Left at the end of last year.
[15:13] <jrwren_> ah.
[15:14] <jrwren_> well, just based on the numbrers, good mgmt could turn that ship around.
[15:14] <snap-l> God, Flash is a real piece of shit in Google Plus
[15:14] <jrwren_> flash is ALWAYS a real piece of shit.
[15:14] <jrwren_> google plus is a piece of shit for using it.
[15:14] <snap-l> It's even worse now
[15:14] <jrwren_> but google plus works well without flash
[15:21] <snap-l> Yeah, I just disabled Flash (push to play)
[16:22] <brousch> greg-g: Are you familiar with ARMA?
[17:14] <greg-g> brousch: I'm going to guess not since I'm not recognizing the acronym
[17:15] <brousch> Assoc of Records Management PRos
[17:15] <brousch> Sounded like library stuff to me
[17:20] <greg-g> brousch: ah, well, I went to school with people who are no doubt a member of that association
[17:20] <greg-g> brousch: but, I steered clear of Archives and Records Management
[18:25] <greg-g> huh, getting some weird packet loss with the new router
[18:25] <greg-g> (no, openwrt isn't installed on it yet)
[21:11] <snap-l> http://imgur.com/E16Ea <- Oh Microsoft
[21:15] <greg-g> wait,k you mean there is another shell than Windows? I thought they were completely original in all they do?
[22:23] <greg-g> wow, offlineimap sure has deteriorated in quality since John Goerzen stopped maintaining it