[02:59] <ChinnoDog> I hate Windows 8. It is worse than Unity.
[03:31] <waltman> Worse that Windows 7?
[03:43] <ChinnoDog> Windows 7 is ok.
[03:43] <ChinnoDog> Windows 2000 was the best.
[09:22] <rmg51> Morning
[10:00] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[10:02] <rmg51> hey JonathanD
[10:04] <JonathanD> Whats up?
[10:30] <rmg51> besides us?
[10:31] <rmg51> well, I did break down and bought a new Windows 7 laptop :-D
[10:34] <rmg51> breakfast time
[11:18] <waltman> rmg51: !
[12:16] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples
[13:45] <yoda_van> rmg51: :(
[14:00] <rmg51> yeah, I know. I still have to use Windows for birthday cards :P
[15:06] <ChinnoDog> mmm, pancake
[15:47] <ChinnoDog> password
[15:47] <ChinnoDog> oops
[15:47] <ChinnoDog> that was my password in a virtual machine I am running a test in
[15:48] <JonathanD> hunter2
[16:37] <jedijf> sure it was
[17:06] <ChinnoDog> It was. I am trying to figure out if I can boot Ubuntu on a drive encrypted with Truecrypt.
[19:31] <ChinnoDog> I am getting warmer
[20:12] <InHisName> So are you a pancake, ChinnoDog since you are getting warmer ?
[20:14] <ChinnoDog> I am getting closer to running Ubuntu with Truecrypt full drive encryption
[21:15] <ChinnoDog> I think I reached the end of the line. This will never work in Ubuntu.
[21:17] <pleia2> what's wrong with the native full disk encryption?
[21:20] <ChinnoDog> I want to avoid extra password prmopts. I want to put it in at boot and then be done with it
[21:21] <pleia2> how many times is it asking for your password?
[21:21] <pleia2> not sure where to file this bug, hm
[21:22] <pleia2> did you install full disk encyrption via the installer, or after?
[21:23] <ChinnoDog> I tried it a bunch of ways. Truecrypt doesn't support full disk encryption of Linux but I was hoping to get around that by using the Windows boot loader.
[21:24] <ChinnoDog> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/14227/multi-boot-with-full-hard-drive-encryption-and-pre-boot-authentication
[21:24] <ChinnoDog> There is that. I think Fedora must have something added to /boot though
[21:26] <waltman> Disk encryption scares me. I'm worried some day the drive will die unexpectedly and I'll want to recover something off of it.
[21:31] <ChinnoDog> I'm worried someone will steal my laptop and make off with my data
[21:34] <pleia2> that's your first problem, storing data on a laptop! :)
[21:41] <ChinnoDog> It is unavoidable. hehe
[21:42] <waltman> ChinnoDog: two words: "the cloud"
[21:42] <pleia2> I keep temporary data on my laptop, but nothing I don't back up, and nothing that I'd worry about in particular if it was stolen (oh no, they got my little mermaid avi!)
[21:43] <pleia2> ssh keys, but none passwordless and I can just revoke access on my servers anyway
[21:43] <ChinnoDog> It is always backed up. I'm not worried about not having it, I am worried about the thief having it.
[21:44] <pleia2> all that ChinnoDog pr0n
[21:45] <ChinnoDog> Yes, all the chinnopr0n
[21:46] <ChinnoDog> This would be a lot easier if I had a hard drive with full disk encryption in the firmware
[21:47] <ChinnoDog> ok, I am killing my FDE project. lol. I'll just stay unencrypted.
[21:47]  * ChinnoDog rigs laptop to self destruct in event of theft
[21:49] <pleia2> ok, I just installed 12.10 with the shiny new full disk encryption that it offers, and it asked for my encryption password a total of 1 time
[21:50]  * pleia2 heads out for a bit
[21:51] <ChinnoDog> I was trying to do something much more complicated. I wanted one password for Windows and Ubuntu.