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xTEMPLARx | =] | 14:36 |
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wrst | xTEMPLARx: greetings | 14:49 |
xTEMPLARx | g'mornin' sir! | 14:50 |
wrst | how you doing? | 14:51 |
* wrst feels ignored by xTEMPLARx | 15:48 | |
xTEMPLARx | lol | 15:49 |
xTEMPLARx | donut be lonely, Senor WRST | 15:49 |
* xTEMPLARx is doing pretty well thus far, thank you. | 15:49 | |
wrst | ha ha xTEMPLARx | 15:49 |
xTEMPLARx | hopefully you and yours are well, as well | 15:49 |
xTEMPLARx | :D | 15:49 |
wrst | oh yeah looking forward to baseball this afternoon | 15:50 |
xTEMPLARx | who's playin? | 15:50 |
Juzzy | anyone here android hax0rs? | 15:56 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: the braves... you must not be a baseball fan? its the most wonderful time of the year | 16:00 |
wrst | as usual i am not cool/smart enough to answer Juzzy's question :) | 16:01 |
xTEMPLARx | wrst I know that feel | 16:01 |
wrst | ha ha xTEMPLARx i always have that feeling | 16:02 |
Juzzy | well i've never touched a droid until a couple of days ago | 16:07 |
Juzzy | ive rooted it and finially today got ssh+root working | 16:08 |
Juzzy | so the problem is: theres a bug in activesync where if you sync a calander event, then move it to aother cal, it doesnt update properly and forever breaks the sync on the droid | 16:08 |
Juzzy | so I rooted it, located the sqlite db: /data/data/com.android.providers.calendar/databases/calendar.db | 16:09 |
Juzzy | found the offending event and deleted the entry | 16:09 |
Juzzy | however it's still broken, I'm not sure if it's cached or what | 16:10 |
Juzzy | still trying to sync this bad id :( | 16:10 |
Juzzy | ive killed calendar and the 3rd party sync processes | 16:11 |
Juzzy | and rebooted it | 16:11 |
Juzzy | nada :( | 16:11 |
Juzzy | the ppl in #android are completly useless heh | 16:11 |
wrst | surely not more useless than xTEMPLARx or me? | 16:27 |
xTEMPLARx | :D | 16:32 |
xTEMPLARx | so I grabbed the 12.10 beta2 64-bit iso yesterday | 16:32 |
xTEMPLARx | took it home | 16:33 |
xTEMPLARx | removed my botched 12.04 upgrade installation and let it do a clean 12.10 beta2 install | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | logged into unity | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | loaded up the software manager | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | asked it kindly to install gnome-shell, which is 3.6 | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | wont' work | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | doesn't work | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | broken | 16:35 |
xTEMPLARx | booooo | 16:36 |
xTEMPLARx | regular gnome works, but no window manager | 16:36 |
xTEMPLARx | argh | 16:36 |
xTEMPLARx | gonna have to actually work with it | 16:36 |
xTEMPLARx | heaven forbid beta software not do what its supposed to | 16:36 |
wrst | well xTEMPLARx that's what you get for trying to use gnome with ubuntu | 17:16 |
wrst | as sad as that is | 17:16 |
wrst | gnome remix was a total disaster for me when i tried the live cd | 17:17 |
xTEMPLARx | no doubt | 17:52 |
xTEMPLARx | and I tell you what | 17:52 |
xTEMPLARx | I understand the need for income, but the unity dash board search giving you amazon results is ridiculous | 17:53 |
xTEMPLARx | I did a search for synaptic once I logged in | 17:53 |
xTEMPLARx | not ONE of the 2 pages of results that came back had anything to do with the synaptic package manager | 17:53 |
wrst | yeah that's why i don't run ubuntu on the desktop, unity stinks, they ruin gnome, and stupid stuff | 17:53 |
xTEMPLARx | and THAT is ridiculous | 17:53 |
wrst | i think ubuntu desktop is getting close to a cluttered up ridiculous mess | 17:54 |
xTEMPLARx | I've been mostly fine with it thus far | 17:55 |
wrst | i just don't like unity | 17:55 |
xTEMPLARx | but this amazon thing is entirely too intrusive and ridiculous | 17:55 |
xTEMPLARx | making Unity more of a joke as a default UI | 17:55 |
wrst | i think it looks ok but it still looks incomplete for example if the top bar is transparent the menus aren't lots of little things like that | 17:55 |
xTEMPLARx | and then to apparently cripple gnome's proper installation ... I'm hoping that's just a beta mistake | 17:56 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: well they won't include nautilus 3.6 period | 17:56 |
xTEMPLARx | sad thing is, I hear a lot of people griping about gnome shell but talking about features that are only part of Unity | 17:56 |
xTEMPLARx | like the whole full-screen application paradigm | 17:56 |
wrst | i don't really won't features | 17:56 |
xTEMPLARx | using separate workspaces for each application | 17:56 |
wrst | i just want something that opens progrems switches windows and stays out of the way | 17:57 |
xTEMPLARx | that's not gnome shell | 17:57 |
xTEMPLARx | that's unity | 17:57 |
wrst | i actually use a different desktop for apps on gnome shell | 17:57 |
xTEMPLARx | but at least you can choose to do so | 17:58 |
xTEMPLARx | I work with multiple windows on the same workspace just like always | 17:59 |
wrst | yes i generally do that unless i'm using dual montiors then i keep on monitor "locked" and can scroll throught he others in gnome-shell that is pretty nice | 17:59 |
xTEMPLARx | sounds like it :D | 18:00 |
wrst | but unity is just a little cluttered up mess for me it tries to do everything | 18:02 |
wrst | and that just isn't for me if it is for people that s good too i wish them success | 18:02 |
xTEMPLARx | seriously | 18:08 |
xTEMPLARx | I completely love my current gnome-shell functionality here | 18:08 |
xTEMPLARx | there's not a single complaint I can think of | 18:08 |
wrst | window switching is really the only complaint i would have its a little unhandy | 18:09 |
wrst | but i'm sure there's an extension for that | 18:09 |
xTEMPLARx | how so? | 18:09 |
xTEMPLARx | alt-tab doesn't work? | 18:09 |
xTEMPLARx | also, I use avant-window-manager for my icon bar on the left, so I can switch easily that way as well | 18:09 |
wrst | yeah i do like haveing that i just use the activities hot corner or the super key | 18:10 |
wrst | but there are extensions but that's really my only complaint and that isn't much of one | 18:11 |
xTEMPLARx | i gotchya | 18:15 |
xTEMPLARx | the only reason I wanted to change this system was to go to a 64-bit rather than 32-bit PAE system | 18:15 |
xTEMPLARx | but I think I'm gonna leave it alone | 18:16 |
wrst | i get the itchy to fresh install much quicker than you :) | 18:18 |
wrst | or i did now with arch not so much | 18:19 |
xTEMPLARx | I always get that itch when something new/unique/cool-to-me is coming out | 18:29 |
xTEMPLARx | =] | 18:29 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: you really should run arch it would just come to you :) | 18:34 |
xTEMPLARx | wrst: I may have to give it a try at home | 19:15 |
xTEMPLARx | not sure if I have the patience for it, though... lol | 19:15 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: I absolutely love it | 19:16 |
wrst | once you get it set up its really no issue | 19:16 |
xTEMPLARx | true this | 19:31 |
wrst | and i have package kit installed so you can do the whole graphical thing if you want to | 19:35 |
xTEMPLARx | package kit? | 19:36 |
wrst | yes i think fedora uses it | 19:37 |
wrst | yeah its what fedora does, of coruse that isn't default but it works really smoothe in arch, checks for updates etc | 19:38 |
wrst | but not from the AUR | 19:38 |
xTEMPLARx | I see I see | 19:39 |
wrst | AUR is sorta like PPA's | 19:39 |
Unit193 | But safer, no? | 20:03 |
xTEMPLARx | well I may come screaming/crying when it breaks my puter. :D | 20:04 |
xTEMPLARx | and by breaks, I mean by allows me to put it into a non-fully-operational state | 20:04 |
wrst | Unit193: not safer | 20:04 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: before you update you need to check the arch linux site | 20:04 |
xTEMPLARx | what? ask questions first and update later? | 20:05 |
xTEMPLARx | that seems backwards | 20:05 |
wrst | i update daily but when there is a big update of something like graphics drivers, xorg, kernel, system essential type things i check the website | 20:05 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: thats the "arch way" you are in control of your system so if you junk it, well its all your fault :) | 20:05 |
xTEMPLARx | :D | 20:06 |
chris4585 | mhm | 20:06 |
wrst | but i have found it to be much more stable than running debian testing because its meant to be a rolling release | 20:06 |
Juzzy | We're looking for a linux admin with perl exp if anyone knows anyone looking :D | 20:11 |
Juzzy | in franklin | 20:11 |
xTEMPLARx | franklin is way over there in middle tn | 20:12 |
xTEMPLARx | amirite? | 20:12 |
Juzzy | yes. | 20:12 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: yes | 20:12 |
xTEMPLARx | kk | 20:12 |
wrst | south of nashville a few miles off I-65 | 20:12 |
wrst | hmm a few mile south of nashville just off of I-65 | 20:12 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: you wanting to move to franklin? | 20:12 |
xTEMPLARx | not if I don't have to :\ | 20:13 |
Juzzy | it's good pay | 20:13 |
Juzzy | ;/ | 20:13 |
xTEMPLARx | there's also that little thing about not being any good at perl at the moment | 20:50 |
xTEMPLARx | I tend to learn things as I need to, and I've had no need to perl it up. :( | 20:50 |
xTEMPLARx | gonna be on vaca this week, so I'm shuttin' quassel down :D | 20:56 |
Juzzy | better hurry | 20:56 |
xTEMPLARx | have a good weekend, all | 20:56 |
Juzzy | it's a dry market | 20:56 |
Juzzy | can make some good bank right now | 20:56 |
xTEMPLARx | talkin about learning perl? | 20:56 |
xTEMPLARx | hrm | 20:56 |
Juzzy | linux in general | 20:57 |
xTEMPLARx | I loves me some linux in general | 20:57 |
xTEMPLARx | but I'm not certified in much of anything | 20:57 |
Juzzy | certs? | 20:57 |
* xTEMPLARx points to his last statement. | 20:57 | |
Juzzy | whats that? :) | 20:57 |
xTEMPLARx | haha | 20:57 |
Juzzy | there's no certs for being awesome | 20:59 |
Juzzy | ;0 | 20:59 |
wrst | xTEMPLARx: enjoy the vacation! | 21:02 |
xTEMPLARx | Juzzy: there oughta be! | 21:03 |
xTEMPLARx | wrst, thank you sir. I will try to. | 21:03 |
wrst | and the point is to keep quasselcore running all the time xTEMPLARx so you don't miss anything :P | 21:03 |
xTEMPLARx | but I never scroll back | 21:03 |
xTEMPLARx | besides, the last two pages if I'm not here are typically netsplit messages | 21:04 |
xTEMPLARx | :P | 21:04 |
wrst | fine do it your way :) | 21:04 |
wrst | have a great week xTEMPLARx! | 21:04 |
xTEMPLARx | later :D | 21:04 |
Juzzy | later | 21:04 |
chris4585 | wrst, I'd use quassel if I could use xchat as a client | 23:45 |
linuxman410 | wrst u here | 23:46 |
linuxman410 | anyone here | 23:47 |
wrst | linuxman410: yep | 23:47 |
linuxman410 | wrst what u doing | 23:47 |
wrst | watching baseball my braves are about to make an early exit from the playoffs, how about you linuxman410? | 23:48 |
linuxman410 | going broke | 23:49 |
wrst | i think we all are linuxman410 :\ | 23:49 |
linuxman410 | my new messed up and i have run out of mney out of work for about 3 weeks getting ready to lose house and vechicles | 23:50 |
linuxman410 | knee | 23:50 |
wrst | oh no linuxman410 | 23:50 |
wrst | :( | 23:50 |
linuxman410 | yep i do not know how much longer i will have internet will try to stay in touch | 23:51 |
wrst | hate to hear that linuxman410 | 23:53 |
linuxman410 | yeah me too | 23:53 |
linuxman410 | after divorce life went to pieces talk to u later going online to try to find help | 23:54 |
wrst | ok linuxman410 hop eyou find it | 23:55 |
linuxman410 | thanks | 23:55 |
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