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xTEMPLARx=]14:36
wrstxTEMPLARx: greetings14:49
xTEMPLARxg'mornin' sir!14:50
wrsthow you doing?14:51
* wrst feels ignored by xTEMPLARx15:48
xTEMPLARxlol15:49
xTEMPLARxdonut be lonely, Senor WRST15:49
* xTEMPLARx is doing pretty well thus far, thank you.15:49
wrstha ha xTEMPLARx15:49
xTEMPLARxhopefully you and yours are well, as well15:49
xTEMPLARx:D15:49
wrstoh yeah looking forward to baseball this afternoon15:50
xTEMPLARxwho's playin?15:50
Juzzyanyone here android hax0rs?15:56
wrstxTEMPLARx: the braves... you must not be a baseball fan? its the most wonderful time of the year16:00
wrstas usual i am not cool/smart enough to answer Juzzy's question :)16:01
xTEMPLARxwrst I know that feel16:01
wrstha ha xTEMPLARx i always have that feeling16:02
Juzzywell i've never touched a droid until a couple of days ago16:07
Juzzyive rooted it and finially today got ssh+root working16:08
Juzzyso the problem is: theres a bug in activesync where if you sync a calander event, then move it to aother cal, it doesnt update properly and forever breaks the sync on the droid16:08
Juzzyso I rooted it, located the sqlite db: /data/data/com.android.providers.calendar/databases/calendar.db16:09
Juzzyfound the offending event and deleted the entry16:09
Juzzyhowever it's still broken, I'm not sure if it's cached or what16:10
Juzzystill trying to sync this bad id :(16:10
Juzzyive killed calendar and the 3rd party sync processes16:11
Juzzyand rebooted it16:11
Juzzynada :(16:11
Juzzythe ppl in #android are completly useless heh16:11
wrstsurely not more useless than xTEMPLARx or me?16:27
xTEMPLARx:D16:32
xTEMPLARxso I grabbed the 12.10 beta2 64-bit iso yesterday16:32
xTEMPLARxtook it home16:33
xTEMPLARxremoved my botched 12.04 upgrade installation and let it do a clean 12.10 beta2 install16:35
xTEMPLARxlogged into unity16:35
xTEMPLARxloaded up the software manager16:35
xTEMPLARxasked it kindly to install gnome-shell, which is 3.616:35
xTEMPLARxwont' work16:35
xTEMPLARxdoesn't work16:35
xTEMPLARxbroken16:35
xTEMPLARxbooooo16:36
xTEMPLARxregular gnome works, but no window manager16:36
xTEMPLARxargh16:36
xTEMPLARxgonna have to actually work with it16:36
xTEMPLARxheaven forbid beta software not do what its supposed to16:36
wrstwell xTEMPLARx that's what you get for trying to use gnome with ubuntu17:16
wrstas sad as that is17:16
wrstgnome remix was a total disaster for me when i tried the live cd17:17
xTEMPLARxno doubt17:52
xTEMPLARxand I tell you what17:52
xTEMPLARxI understand the need for income, but the unity dash board search giving you amazon results  is ridiculous17:53
xTEMPLARxI did a search for synaptic once I logged in17:53
xTEMPLARxnot ONE of the 2 pages of results that came back had anything to do with the synaptic package manager17:53
wrstyeah that's why i don't run ubuntu on the desktop, unity stinks, they ruin gnome, and stupid stuff17:53
xTEMPLARxand THAT is ridiculous17:53
wrsti think ubuntu desktop is getting close to a cluttered up ridiculous mess17:54
xTEMPLARxI've been mostly fine with it thus far17:55
wrsti just don't like unity17:55
xTEMPLARxbut this amazon thing is entirely too intrusive and ridiculous17:55
xTEMPLARxmaking Unity more of a joke as a default UI17:55
wrsti think it looks ok but it still looks incomplete for example if the top bar is transparent the menus aren't lots of little things like that17:55
xTEMPLARxand then to apparently cripple gnome's proper installation ... I'm hoping that's just a beta mistake17:56
wrstxTEMPLARx: well they won't include nautilus 3.6 period17:56
xTEMPLARxsad thing is, I hear a lot of people griping about gnome shell but talking about features that are only part of Unity17:56
xTEMPLARxlike the whole full-screen application paradigm17:56
wrsti don't really won't features17:56
xTEMPLARxusing separate workspaces for each application17:56
wrsti just want something that opens progrems switches windows and stays out of the way17:57
xTEMPLARxthat's not gnome shell17:57
xTEMPLARxthat's unity17:57
wrsti actually use a different desktop for apps on gnome shell17:57
xTEMPLARxbut at least you can choose to do so17:58
xTEMPLARxI work with multiple windows on the same workspace just like always17:59
wrstyes i generally do that unless i'm using dual montiors then i keep on monitor "locked" and can scroll throught he others in gnome-shell that is pretty nice17:59
xTEMPLARxsounds like it :D18:00
wrstbut unity is just a little cluttered up mess for me it tries to do everything18:02
wrstand that just isn't for me if it is for people that s good too i wish them success18:02
xTEMPLARxseriously18:08
xTEMPLARxI completely love my current gnome-shell functionality here18:08
xTEMPLARxthere's not a single complaint I can think of18:08
wrstwindow switching is really the only complaint i would have its a little unhandy18:09
wrstbut i'm sure there's an extension for that18:09
xTEMPLARxhow so?18:09
xTEMPLARxalt-tab doesn't work?18:09
xTEMPLARxalso, I use avant-window-manager for my icon bar on the left, so I can switch easily that way as well18:09
wrstyeah i do like haveing that i just use the activities hot corner or the super key18:10
wrstbut there are extensions but that's really my only complaint and that isn't much of one18:11
xTEMPLARxi gotchya18:15
xTEMPLARxthe only reason I wanted to change this system was to go to a 64-bit rather than 32-bit PAE system18:15
xTEMPLARxbut I think I'm gonna leave it alone18:16
wrsti get the itchy to fresh install much quicker than you :)18:18
wrstor i did now with arch not so much18:19
xTEMPLARxI always get that itch when something new/unique/cool-to-me is coming out18:29
xTEMPLARx=]18:29
wrstxTEMPLARx: you really should run arch it would just come to you :)18:34
xTEMPLARxwrst:  I may have to give it a try at home19:15
xTEMPLARxnot sure if I have the patience for it, though... lol19:15
wrstxTEMPLARx: I absolutely love it19:16
wrstonce you get it set up its really no issue19:16
xTEMPLARxtrue this19:31
wrstand i have package kit installed so you can do the whole graphical thing if you want to19:35
xTEMPLARxpackage kit?19:36
wrstyes i think fedora uses it19:37
wrstyeah its what fedora does, of coruse that isn't default but it works really smoothe in arch, checks for updates etc19:38
wrstbut not from the AUR19:38
xTEMPLARxI see I see19:39
wrstAUR is sorta like PPA's19:39
Unit193But safer, no?20:03
xTEMPLARxwell I may come screaming/crying when it breaks my puter.  :D20:04
xTEMPLARxand by breaks, I mean by allows me to put it into a non-fully-operational state20:04
wrstUnit193: not safer20:04
wrstxTEMPLARx: before you update you need to check the arch linux site20:04
xTEMPLARxwhat?  ask questions first and update later?20:05
xTEMPLARxthat seems backwards20:05
wrsti update daily but when there is a big update of something like graphics drivers, xorg, kernel, system essential type things i check the website20:05
wrstxTEMPLARx: thats the "arch way" you are in control of your system so if you junk it, well its all your fault :)20:05
xTEMPLARx:D20:06
chris4585mhm20:06
wrstbut i have found it to be much more stable than running debian testing because its meant to be a rolling release20:06
JuzzyWe're looking for a linux admin with perl exp if anyone knows anyone looking :D20:11
Juzzyin franklin20:11
xTEMPLARxfranklin is way over there in middle tn20:12
xTEMPLARxamirite?20:12
Juzzyyes.20:12
wrstxTEMPLARx: yes20:12
xTEMPLARxkk20:12
wrstsouth of nashville a few miles off I-6520:12
wrsthmm a few mile south of nashville just off of I-6520:12
wrstxTEMPLARx: you wanting to move to franklin?20:12
xTEMPLARxnot if I don't have to :\20:13
Juzzyit's good pay20:13
Juzzy;/20:13
xTEMPLARxthere's also that little thing about not being any good at perl at the moment20:50
xTEMPLARxI tend to learn things as I need to, and I've had no need to perl it up.  :(20:50
xTEMPLARxgonna be on vaca this week, so I'm shuttin' quassel down :D20:56
Juzzybetter hurry20:56
xTEMPLARxhave a good weekend, all20:56
Juzzyit's a dry market20:56
Juzzycan make some good bank right now20:56
xTEMPLARxtalkin about learning perl?20:56
xTEMPLARxhrm20:56
Juzzylinux in general20:57
xTEMPLARxI loves me some linux in general20:57
xTEMPLARxbut I'm not certified in much of anything20:57
Juzzycerts?20:57
* xTEMPLARx points to his last statement.20:57
Juzzywhats that? :)20:57
xTEMPLARxhaha20:57
Juzzythere's no certs for being awesome20:59
Juzzy;020:59
wrstxTEMPLARx: enjoy the vacation!21:02
xTEMPLARxJuzzy:  there oughta be!21:03
xTEMPLARxwrst, thank you sir.  I will try to.21:03
wrstand the point is to keep quasselcore running all the time xTEMPLARx so you don't miss anything :P21:03
xTEMPLARxbut I never scroll back21:03
xTEMPLARxbesides, the last two pages if I'm not here are typically netsplit messages21:04
xTEMPLARx:P21:04
wrstfine do it your way :)21:04
wrsthave a great week xTEMPLARx!21:04
xTEMPLARxlater :D21:04
Juzzylater21:04
chris4585wrst, I'd use quassel if I could use xchat as a client23:45
linuxman410wrst u here23:46
linuxman410anyone here23:47
wrstlinuxman410: yep23:47
linuxman410wrst what u doing23:47
wrstwatching baseball my braves are about to make an early exit from the playoffs, how about you linuxman410?23:48
linuxman410going broke23:49
wrsti think we all are linuxman410 :\23:49
linuxman410my new messed up and i have run out of mney out of work for about 3 weeks getting ready to lose house and vechicles23:50
linuxman410knee23:50
wrstoh no linuxman41023:50
wrst:(23:50
linuxman410yep i do not know how much longer i will have internet will try to stay in touch23:51
wrsthate to hear that linuxman41023:53
linuxman410yeah me too23:53
linuxman410after divorce life went to pieces talk to u later going online to try to find help23:54
wrstok linuxman410 hop eyou find it23:55
linuxman410thanks23:55

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