[04:42] morning sleepy heads [06:30] hiya Kilos [06:39] howdy superfly [06:43] good morning y'all [06:43] yo magespawn [06:43] hey superfly [06:43] magespawn: front page of http:// www.techcentral.co.za/ [06:43] hiya magespawn [06:43] hrm, how did that space get in there? [06:43] Kilos gets the worms today [06:43] hey Kilos [06:44] hehe [06:44] kde didnt give any probs today [06:44] im happy [06:49] sound? [06:50] pretty cool superfly [06:51] magespawn: ta [07:33] magespawn: i had to resort bios and disable the ac97 option [07:50] Kilos at least it is working [08:01] yeah me happy [08:01] so far everything is working [09:55] xkcd.com/1110 for those who have not seen this [10:13] you do want a decent browser for that [10:13] something keyboard controlled and/or zoomable [10:16] would be able to zoom the comic out to see more? === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:22] magespawn: this is the viewer I did, no zoom http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/stefanor/xkcd-1110.html [10:23] but other people added zoom === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:29] hi Trix[a]r_za tumbleweed [11:29] ah Superhumanyou still alive [11:29] ai [11:29] Superhuman you still alive? [11:31] http://xkcd.kajakklubben.org/ [11:31] this one is also amusing [13:41] even our mailing list is quiet [13:41] magespawn: coffee on [13:41] yo inetpro het jy vergeet om morning te se [13:45] Kilos: skuus [13:46] Kilos: goeie more [13:46] hehe gp [13:46] gaan dit goed boet? [13:46] Kilos: te warm [13:46] nee man dis lekker. was nou net in die son [13:46] ai [13:47] UV's vang [13:59] Coffee is ready for Kilos [13:59] hehe ty magespawn [14:00] hey magespawnwhat ubuntu's you running [14:01] this stupid tab complete doesnt add a space after nick [14:01] magespawn: hi [14:01] now it did [14:01] almost weekend for the working class [14:11] 4:11PM up 1499 days, 6:30, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 [14:11] [14:11] ! [14:12] lol, and the irc daemon was last restarted on the 27th May 2010 [14:36] hmm === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [14:57] good afternoon [14:57] hi Kilos, Symmetria, magespawn [14:58] Maaz: coffee on [14:58] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [14:58] hi charlvn [14:58] charlvn: you still alive too [14:58] yay [14:58] magespawn: coffee please [14:58] eish [14:58] lol [14:58] Maaz: coffee please [14:58] Kilos: Done [14:59] wow the zar currency has devalued immensely in the last two days [14:59] how come you jumped in front of maaz with the tab thing [14:59] http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=ZAR&view=1W [14:59] that's strange, i start with c, not m [15:02] Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos! [15:02] no man magespawn [15:02] not you dodo [15:03] charlvn: you missed all the fun here [15:03] hah [15:03] im using kde 12.04 [15:03] took about 10 installs to be right [15:04] o0o0 [15:04] and lotsa grey hairs for the fly and pro [15:04] Kilos: to get what roght? [15:04] i think it might be just a shade better than unity [15:04] * Kilos ducks [15:05] gnoe-shell ftw :) [15:05] oh dear, *gnome-shell [15:08] zeref: mate is much better [15:09] have that on 12.04 on other pc [15:09] i went though all of them, always came back to the shell ;) [15:10] waitng for gnomeBuntu [15:10] well i gave unity about 3 months or more now will do the same for kde [15:11] kde aint bad once you know a coupla basics [15:13] Maaz: thanks [15:13] charlvn: Sure [15:13] Kilos: i heard there are massive strikes and chaos [15:13] very sad to hear :( [15:16] man if i did not need winsucks to function i would have dumped it long ago [15:17] sorry bit of a rant [15:17] just wasted the last 3 hours trying to get a program to work [15:18] magespawn: you didnt restart often enough [15:19] there is a very lekker free tool that fixes lotsa winsucks probs [15:19] ubuntu [15:19] not just registry [15:19] yeah maybe [15:19] called ccleaner [15:20] just tired of trying for now [15:20] win stores stuff in registry and then forgets where to find them [15:21] and windows installers are generally retarted becuse they have to work with win [15:21] lol [15:22] ya i hated that, every game or app needs a restart [15:22] and most of the options that i enjoy in ubuntu are not even there [15:23] wanted to type sudo aptitude install at one point [15:23] hahaha [15:23] it grows on you hey [15:24] it is like they have decided that because you use windows you are stupid therefore cannot make a choice [15:28] thats for the peeps that call in IT guys for everything [15:29] thats why most of the larger companies employ IT guys [15:31] yeah [15:31] even a person who is busy studying it though it can be exceedingly frustrating [15:51] lol === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [16:01] yo Trix[a]r_za [16:01] :) [16:01] Maaz: nickometer Trix[a]r_za [16:01] Kilos: Trix[a]r_za is 69.4% lame [16:02] hi smile === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [16:02] hi Kilos :D [16:02] * smile is watching Tears of Steel - Blender Foundation's fourth short Open Movie [16:02] Maaz: nickometer Trixar_za [16:02] Kilos: Trixar_za is 14.4% lame [16:03] Hey Kilos [16:03] Sorry, I'm bored so I'm looking for games to use with ScummVM [16:03] smile: have you tried using blender? [16:03] Will put them all together and put it on a CD or something [16:03] yes I have, long time ago :p wasn't that easy for me :p [16:04] yeah i struggled as well. blender is for clever peeps [16:04] so I gave up :) [16:04] lol [16:04] all good apart from bored Trixar_za [16:04] Maaz: nickometer magespawn [16:04] magespawn: magespawn is 0.0% lame [16:04] ? [16:04] hah cool [16:04] 100% cool then [16:05] big hug, Kilos :P [16:05] Well admit it, ScummVM is a good reason to find old adventure games [16:05] i think maaz doesnt like funny characters in nicks [16:05] I used to Love them :P [16:05] And I can now enjoy them on Linux too :P [16:05] or maybe likes all lower case [16:05] Maaz: nickometer Kilos [16:05] Kilos: Kilos is 0.0% lame [16:05] that's amazing, Trixar_za :) [16:06] has anybody got the latest humble indie bundle? [16:06] Trixar_za: where you get them? [16:06] no, magespawn :) do you ;) [16:06] Er, I use Abandonia and GamesWin [16:06] maybe i can get some on night surfer data when i can stay awake one day [16:06] GamesWin has more games, but less English reviews [16:06] no laptop and such are only for work [16:07] and very little spare cash at the moment smile [16:07] It also uses rar files instead of zip files - which means the downloads are smaller than with Abandonia [16:07] magespawn: okay :( [16:07] win rar [16:07] sjoe [16:08] 7-zip for linux! :) [16:08] i want to find something like red alert or AOE that is a linux game [16:08] Nah, just get the unrar package or the full rar-nonfree package [16:08] :P [16:09] dont wanna corrupt kde with wine [16:09] Kilos: There is a few [16:09] Kilos: there is 0ad, and a few others [16:09] oh thats first in muon [16:09] magespawn: I did [16:10] i heard that it is awesome superfly [16:10] what did you think? [16:10] have you tried it superfly? [16:10] magespawn: when I eventually get to downloading it, I will let you know... [16:10] hah [16:10] work getting in the way again? [16:10] Kilos: 0AD, yes. it looks really nice [16:10] good ty superfly i will try it [16:11] magespawn: OpenLP, my biggest open source project, is releasing version 2.0 at the end of this month, so I'm trying to get everything organised for that [16:11] so not paid work then but still lots to do [16:12] yup read the blog [16:12] Kilos: http://www.lgdb.org/games/all?tid[]=8&tid_9=All&sort_by=field_release_value&sort_order=DESC [16:13] ty Trixar_za [16:13] magespawn: yup [16:13] What do you think, guys? Fork from LibreOffice? http://www.pcworld.com/article/2011247/gs-calc-a-low-cost-spreadsheet-with-a-unique-interface.html [16:13] linux game database rocks [16:13] :P [16:13] I'm busy trying to get a press kit together, lots of work, more than coding [16:14] But http://www.lgdb.org/game/openra will probably interest you more [16:14] :P [16:14] I would not mind helping out if you want superfly [16:15] Trixar_za: why? [16:17] It's a port of Red Alert's engine? [16:17] Shame about being written in Mono though [16:17] :P [16:17] magespawn: if you have some time, that would be great. You're welcome to join us in #openlp [16:17] oh ya red alert [16:22] http://www.pokemon-online.eu/ [16:22] isnt there an app to convert mono to python [16:22] ? [16:22] Now I've seen everything [16:22] oh can you tell what language is used by looking at it? [16:26] http://slexy.org/view/s20Ber9TOX [16:32] Kilos: VB.NET [16:34] oh my is that a language superfly? [16:34] or must i go to that site? [16:34] Visual Basic [16:35] oh ty magespawn [16:36] ty superfly thats what ian has to fiddle with to get them scanner things working [16:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_.NET [16:39] ty magespawn [16:40] you didn't know that vb.net is visual basic with .net framework? :) [16:41] eeewwww [16:41] Kilos: you have to learn more [16:41] even at your age :) [16:41] smile maybe you do to [16:42] learning is easy smile , its remembering that is the prob [16:42] but i been learning almost daily since i came to ubuntu [16:42] :) [16:43] lol ya magespawn i told him as well he must still study for a few more years [16:43] very good uncle Kilos :) [16:43] magespawn: what? :) [16:43] hehe [16:45] there is always more things to learn [16:46] smile learn more [16:47] :D [16:47] I'm doing that already [16:48] :) [16:48] I'm trying to learn how ChatZilla works [16:48] * smile has just made a new bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/1062421 [16:48] :) [16:48] and age SHOULD have nothing to do with it [16:48] right [16:48] of course not, magespawn [16:52] me thinks that you concentrate mainly on computer though [16:55] yeah, but you should learn other things too :) [16:56] like local geography [16:56] know your region [16:56] :) [16:59] supper time [16:59] bbl [16:59] Guys, do you like http://geoffrey.site44.com/ ? :) [17:00] It's in Dutch, but if you know Afrikaans it will be easy to read :) [17:05] hi all [17:06] wow i have never seen the rand drop this fast [17:06] it's like people are moving money out of the country at a massive speed [17:06] are they expecting serious trouble or something? [17:06] i thought the strikes etc would blow over [17:06] hi smile [17:07] well, Amplats just fired 12 000 [17:07] and i think the chaos is still to follow [17:07] hi charlvn :p [17:08] hmmm that's pretty drastic [17:08] it sucks -.- i'm just watching the exchange rate drop... [17:08] is amplats planning on closing down? [17:08] going to be poor on holiday ._. [17:08] i don't think so [17:08] i think their workers were striking illegally [17:08] my uncle has worked there for many years, i wouldn't mind hearing what he has to say [17:08] i think he still does consulting for them actually [17:09] lol, only chatzilla stayed active when enlightenment crashed :p [17:09] charlvn, i'm off to Korea for a few weeks at the end of November '-' [17:09] very nice, south korea i hope? [17:09] :) [17:10] i was looking at this earlier today: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hungry-kim-jong-un [17:10] yup :) [17:12] oh my goodness: http://youtu.be/PWiT6VbVpjg [17:12] hahaha [17:12] nice meme :p [17:14] watching part 2 now: http://youtu.be/mGycPE3XdIc [17:15] hahahahaha [17:15] WTF [17:15] this is hilarious :D [17:16] ok now i have seen it all :) [17:16] part 1: http://youtu.be/f37K0hIv3zk [17:17] charlvn: north is better temperature ;) [17:18] more insanity: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/death-of-kim-jong-il [17:19] smile: i hear it's really really hot in south korea, a former colleague of mine's girlfriend is south korean so he spent (spends?) a lot of time there [17:20] later [17:20] hoem time [17:20] home even [17:20] It's hotter than Cape Town, of course :) [17:20] good night, magespawn [17:21] haha, just rediscovered this: http://youtu.be/5ac9Arzm7_o [17:22] charlvn, I was in Daegu in summer a few years ago... that was hotter than Durban ,_, [17:22] but i think the Philippines is worse - hot all day, all night, all year -.- [17:24] Cantide: Just keep in SA ;) [17:26] smile, nah :D [17:26] why not :) [17:26] that's a complex question [17:28] Asia gives me economic freedom, safety, a better society and it feels like a permanent holiday '-' [17:29] Cantide: wow, that's pretty hectic (the heat) [17:30] and cheap electronics [17:30] :) [17:31] oh yeah!! [17:32] I'm planning to spend at least a full day in Yongsan this time [17:32] okay, Cantide :) and what about girls? :p [17:32] do you like the asian ones :) [17:32] * Cantide blushes [17:32] lol :D [17:32] nothing wrong with them! [17:33] I like the girls more here :DD (some :P ) [17:33] haha [17:33] here: Belgium :) [17:33] South African girls... hmmm not for me [17:33] oh cool :) [17:33] I'm sure I'd like the girls there, too [17:34] Of course you would. [17:34] :D [17:34] In NL they are nice too [17:34] i bet :) [17:34] will ya visit me, Cantide ? :) [17:34] haha [17:34] umm [17:34] Are you an Asian girl by the name of 민아 in 부산? [17:35] noo :p but I can show you what pretty girls are [17:35] but only if you have a real relationship with them :) [17:35] girls aren't there to hurt [17:36] sure, i didn't mean to imply that they were [17:36] anyway, i'm going to see some friends in Korea [17:36] one of them a girl '-' [17:36] some guys only want sex. I don't understand [17:36] :p [17:37] Cantide: remember it's a friend, not ur girlfriend :p [17:37] i met the girlfriend of above mentioned (former) colleague in ireland (we were there for a meeting) [17:37] have you planned your trip yet? [17:37] :) [17:37] not saying it's my personal taste in women but she was definitely very nice and pretty [17:38] smile, we will see when i get there how things go :p and no, sex is not going to happen [17:38] thats good :p [17:38] smile, nah, some of my friends seem to be planning it for me -.- [17:38] but yeah, i have a few things i want to do [17:38] lol.. but it can be annoying too [17:39] yeah [17:39] they did it last time [17:39] haha [17:39] i actually told him to relax a little :p [17:39] :p [17:39] ^^ [17:40] I like that.. http://www.hyped.nl/nieuws/samsung-komt-met-kleintje-s3.html [17:40] (Galaxy Mini S3 coming) [17:40] with nice specs :) [17:40] I hope the price won't be over 200 dollars :p [17:41] oh, nice! [17:41] i always thought the S3 was a little large [17:41] but i'd still like one :D [17:41] I don't like the format of the S3, so a mini would be fine :D [17:42] Johannesburg – 'n Sangoma en sy bestuurder is Vrydagoggend in hegtenis geneem vir die skending van 'n graf by 'n begraafplaas in Mmabatho, in die Noordwes, het die polisie gesê. [17:43] nuus24 :) [17:43] I need to inform you of the news :D [17:43] damn [17:43] my Afrikaans is not good enough to understand it 100% ,_, [17:45] I understand it fully :P And I'm not native speaker :) [17:46] :p [17:47] Cantide: Dutch is very similar to Afrikaans [17:47] And the other way around, too [17:47] yes '-' [17:47] of that i am aware [17:47] I haven't used Afrikaans for 10 years [17:47] and even 10 years ago it wasn't very good [17:48] dutch and afrikaans is a little like dutch and german - there are a lot of things that are the same but they are just different enough to get you into some serious trouble [17:48] ;) [17:48] haha [17:48] I know a little German, too [17:48] i was having a conversation with some of my colleagues today about it [17:48] but I think my Afrikaans might be better than my German ._. [17:49] charlvn: lol ;) [17:49] brb, coffee time '-' [17:49] Afrikaans is more similar to Dutch than Dutch is similar to German [17:49] i used the example of a south african that asked the girl behind the till if he could see her "slipje" [17:49] :o [17:49] a "slip" is a "bonnetje" in afrikaans so that is perfectly normal to ask to see the slip [17:50] of course, in dutch it has a whole other meaning and the girl was very angry [17:50] but that kind of thing happens so easily [17:50] it's like when i tried to log into google in germany and i got asked to log into "google konten" [17:50] i understood "konten" to mean "assholes" so i was quite terrified of having to "log in" [17:51] then i looked it up in the dictionary and found out it means "accounts" in german [17:51] again, have to be very careful ;) [18:03] Peace and happiness might be found. :) [18:04] lol, charlvn :p [18:12] i just got this sent to me by someone in south africa: http://i.imgur.com/x7r4N.jpg [18:15] The most explicit song text was written by I Wayne [18:15] :) [18:15] One man can't satisfy her / She needs more wood for da fire / Sex price getting higher, ah more money she require [18:15] House, car , and land she desire / so from di prostitution work she won't retire / Flames and fireee, burn the sex seller and the fire [18:16] / is new line ;) [18:20] phew [18:20] some gangsta stuff [18:21] yeaah :p [18:21] charlvn: are you gangsta? :o [18:21] * smile runs to to the other side of the world [18:21] * to to => to [18:21] nope, i'm gangnam style, nog gangsta style ;) [18:22] oppa gangnam style! [18:22] :D [18:22] Dancin' before she reach eleven :o [18:22] :D [18:23] like on a horse [18:23] :P [18:23] What they mean with the L zone? [18:24] l zone? no idea, where did you see it? [18:24] in that video, I thought I heard that [18:24] :) [18:26] http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbccmj9iAS1romxd7o1_1280.png [18:27] Who's that? :) [18:27] gangnam style :p [18:28] transposed onto a picture of the NZ rugby team doing the haka [18:28] oo :) [18:28] :D [18:28] looks like the same moves :D [18:28] xD [18:28] Cantide: how many mb/month have you? :) [18:29] 60 GB + 60 GB [18:29] lasts for a year or until i use it up .-. [18:29] okay :) [18:29] so if i use 5 GB a month, i will be fine :p [18:29] I see :) [18:29] :D [18:29] boemboem? [18:29] and the other 60 GB at night i can use for downloads or such '-' [18:29] boemboem? [18:30] i won't ask about your internet connection, because it'll make me weep [18:30] Cantide: boemboem => BOOM!! :D [18:30] oh :p [18:31] talking to that girl now '-' [18:31] Cantide: I'm even uploading.. :p not only downloading [18:31] so excuse my slow responses [18:31] is the pretty :) [18:31] boemkool! [18:31] smile, i would if i had the bandwidth to spare :p [18:32] smile, all girls are pretty :) [18:32] charlvn: ja. [18:32] http://youtu.be/5-5BL7WqwZA [18:32] Cantide: they aren't :p [18:32] depends how you look at them :p [18:32] well, if you like a girl, she is pretty to you [18:32] so of course my answer is yes [18:33] doei! :) [18:33] ciao smile [18:33] i see, Cantide :) [18:33] but not every girl is pretty (according yourself) [18:33] good night everyone :) [18:33] oooh that film, that "egel" is obnoxious [18:34] good night smile :p [18:34] smile, that's because you can only like 1 at a time :p [18:34] :) [18:34] hug [18:34] you could be right :) [18:34] see ya [18:39] night guys. sleep tight === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [19:16] evening all [19:28] hi magespawn [19:29] hey charlvn [19:42] internet [19:42] finally [19:47] hey Squirm [19:47] hello magespawn [19:54] good night y'all [19:55] same. I'm off. gnight [20:09] good evening [20:22] hi inetpro [20:22] hi charlvn [20:22] how goes [20:22] long time no speak to, how's it going [20:22] i'm doing well thanks [20:22] good and yeah self? [20:22] finished moving into my new appartment, feeling great [20:22] nice [20:23] i still have a couple of loose ends i need to finish off here though [20:23] but for the most part i can start taking it a little easier now [20:23] charlvn: I was wondering, have you dealt with drupal yet? [20:23] i used to develop on drupal 6 and 7 a long time ago [20:23] well, by long time i mean something like 6 or so years [20:23] * inetpro is thinking about importing lots of legacy data to a drupal database [20:23] for ict terms, a really long time [20:24] all text based [20:24] one record per file [20:24] drupal can have a very strange database structure sometimes, as long as you're careful it shouldn't be too difficult [20:24] it used to have a really strange way of handling metadata [20:24] it had these nodes but that then link with a bunch of different tables [20:25] eish [20:25] i didn't really like it very much, i found it too complex to and unhandy to work with [20:25] that said, that was a long time ago :) [20:25] maybe by now it's much cleaner / easier [20:25] * inetpro needs to find some time to learn the structure a bit [20:25] once you "get it" it isn't too bad [20:25] you just need to put some time aside and learn it properly [20:26] I've seen a html to drupal import module somewhere but not text to drupal [20:27] or a script at least [20:28] if it's a simple structure it should be really easy to do it directly into the database [20:28] i have done database imports where i literally generate the sql with some bash script [20:28] *scripting i mean [20:29] * inetpro should actually create some dummy data and put it out as a challenge for anybody [20:29] lol [20:29] could be fun [20:29] (for someone who still works with drupal, i mean, not me) ;) [20:29] :-) [20:53] Ludo: wb [20:54] charlvn: can you see the files in the following link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hifxmtf9hdemu36/TtZNa0Q-AL/DrupalTXTImportTest [21:02] inetpro: that's just a date, title and body right? [21:02] that's very easy [21:03] charlvn: yes it is basically as simple as that [21:03] so you wanna loop through each directory and just import the files one by one [21:03] just for proof of concept [21:03] if i remember correctly that would be very easy to do [21:03] charlvn: true [21:03] with a little python script or something [21:03] you just need a database connector and some basic file/string handling [21:04] if i had a drupal database handy i would have done it for you [21:06] charlvn: even if you just play with the basic concept of reading the data from file and submitting to a dummy database I'd appreciate the help [21:06] we can find out about the drupal structure laters [21:11] hmmm [21:11] any css, php guru here? [21:12] zeref: don't ask to ask, just ask [21:12] oh and anybody is welcome to help with above mentioned challenge [21:13] forgot bout the asking thing. [21:14] zeref: no problem :-) [21:14] k, i would like to create a table with a couple of rows and colums [21:14] i will use css for that. [21:15] not i need to fetch data from database and place it into the rows and columns [21:15] for that I'll use php. [21:15] how do i get the data into the table? [21:20] zeref: retrieve rows, loop through each row, generate ... html? [21:21] that's pretty simple, there should be a million tutorials out there that can give an example [21:21] zeref: I was thinking the same thing as charlvn, there should be many samples out there for your case [21:22] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8904124/looping-through-and-displaying-multiple-table-rows-from-sql [21:22] not sure how you want to use css for creating rows and columns [21:23] http://davidwalsh.name/html-mysql-php [21:25] and a million others, just google [21:25] A million bad tutorials too. [21:26] that's true [21:27] but you start somewhere :P [21:27] start dumb, iterate until smart [21:35] if only it actually worked that way... [21:38] sigh [21:39] zeref: wb [21:44] * inetpro 's challenge described in just a bit more detail: http://slexy.org/view/s208X0EQYU [21:48] hmmmm [21:48] inetpro: I'm also busy with drupal as well :D [21:50] zeref: I just had to spell a few things out for myself to start with, will continue with the exercise as I find time [21:50] * inetpro heading off to hit the sack [21:50] good night everyone [21:51] superfly: you don't become smart by practising? are you smart overnight? [21:51] inetpro: good night! :)