[00:00] <bluecrow> tha was easy, didn't need to do anything. at all, just install it.
[00:00] <silverarrow> anyone with usb wireless that doesn`t work very well?
[00:00] <zykotick9> bluecrow: see "/msg ubottu pm" for why that isn't so cool.  i'm one of those people that consider it rude ;)
[00:00] <bluecrow> i have usb wireless, its great here. silverarrow lol
[00:01] <zykotick9> bluecrow: installing a service should both start it, and add it to default boot.
[00:01] <tryingUbuntu> Little help please.. obviously my internet connection is fine but update manager tells me to check it??             http://pastebin.com/2YVkAqTY
[00:01] <bluecrow> okay.
[00:02] <silverarrow> bluecrow: yeah, I am having trouble with two, RTL8187, driver issues I think, because they work fine in windows
[00:03] <tryingUbuntu> a little more information...     failed to download repository information         http://pastebin.com/2YVkAqTY
[00:03] <harrismrubin_> how do i install python
[00:03] <ledah> how do i share files between two kubuntu machines???
[00:04] <zykotick9> !info python | harrismrubin_ it already should be installed?
[00:04] <harrismrubin_> how do i find it then
[00:04] <tryingUbuntu> harrismrubin   use software center     put python in the search field and install
[00:04] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: "whereis python" in a terminal
[00:05] <zykotick9> tryingUbuntu: python isn't an optional package, it should already be there.
[00:05] <harrismrubin_> how do i open the app
[00:05] <Masterplan_> hi
[00:05] <Masterplan_> I am new to Ubuntu
[00:06] <harrismrubin_> Masterplan,  you will love it
[00:06] <ghost88> ^_^
[00:06] <harrismrubin_> masterplan ps
[00:06] <harrismrubin_> zykotick9,  how do i open python
[00:06] <OerHeks> harrismrubin_, python <name.py>
[00:06] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: type "python"
[00:06] <tryingUbuntu> Sorry, i got disconnected somehow...   any help for the updating issue.. telling me to check my internet connectionn when updating.     http://pastebin.com/2YVkAqTY
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> harrismrubin@harrismrubin-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP296UA-ABA:~$ python
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> Python 2.7.3 (default, Aug  1 2012, 05:16:07)
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> [GCC 4.6.3] on linux2
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> >>>
[00:07] <FloodBot1> harrismrubin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:07] <Masterplan> thanks guys
[00:07] <terminhell> oh hai
[00:07] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: that's python have fun.  see "/msg ubottu paste" before pasting anything into the channel again.
[00:08] <harrismrubin_> how do i type code
[00:08] <harrismrubin_> in it
[00:08] <tryingUbuntu> harrismrubin    open a terminal and type      man python
[00:08] <eGeeked> having problems
[00:08] <Masterplan> I am having trouble with the built in wireless adapter
[00:08] <Masterplan> it wont activate
[00:08] <Masterplan> :(
[00:08] <eGeeked> Ubuntu won't recognize 3 hdd in my server
[00:08] <eGeeked> BIOS maybe?
[00:09] <Masterplan> its an Intel Wireless Pro 2200BG
[00:09] <Masterplan> the bios has the device activeted
[00:09] <tryingUbuntu> harrismrubin    I think I would ask google that question..   maybe google      coding in linux terminal and watch a few videos
[00:10] <harrismrubin_> Masterplan,  run lspci | grep Network in terminal
[00:10] <eGeeked> any suggestions on how my BIOS should look for these HDD's I have a BIOStar mobo
[00:11] <harrismrubin_> i need to get python to write code
[00:11] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: sidenote i find giving all grep instructions with -i "case INsensitive" cuts down on issues, where people don't know the N is essential.
[00:11] <eGeeked> Can someone helkp me with a HDD problem? Greatly appreciated
[00:11] <OerHeks> eGeekend check if the HDD's really are invisible, run " sudo fdisk -L "  in terminal
[00:12] <harrismrubin_> how do i get python code
[00:12] <eGeeked> I did
[00:12] <eGeeked> they dont show
[00:12] <eGeeked> I used lowercase L though
[00:12] <eGeeked> but also tried 3 other ways
[00:12] <OerHeks> correct, -l
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> !enter > eGeeked
[00:12] <eGeeked> My apologies
[00:13] <OerHeks> eGeeked, did you install them yourself ?
[00:13] <harrismrubin_> who uses python here to write code
[00:14] <eGeeked> OerHeks, I just converted my windows server to linux
[00:14] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I install ubuntu
[00:14] <Hatori> egeeked, are you using raid?
[00:14] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: we have establish you have python installed.  thus the ubuntu end of support is over.  try using alis ("/msg ubottu alis for deatils) to find a python channel.
[00:15] <Hatori> crowey, what disk type are you using ? Sata ? Raid?
[00:15] <eGeeked> This is my media server, I was tired of the bulky Windows. I have 1 boot SSD (works fine) and 3 2 TB HDD not in RAID
[00:15] <eGeeked> SATA
[00:15] <harrismrubin_> i need to open python to write code
[00:15] <Crowey> sata I believe
[00:15] <OerHeks> eGeeked, does Gparted see them?
[00:15] <eGeeked> What is that?
[00:16] <OerHeks> gnome gui for parted
[00:16] <eGeeked> When I ran the installer the only drive visible was the SSD
[00:16] <Hatori> egeekend, i think shouldn't be the problems, linux works well with sata devices
[00:16] <eGeeked> I couldn't find the drives at all when going through gnome
[00:16] <harrismrubin_> open python to write code
[00:16] <OerHeks> eGeeked, you started about the bios, check if the controller is off raid
[00:17] <zykotick9> Hatori: depends if that SATA is connected to fake-RAID ;)
[00:17] <eGeeked> Raid is not on
[00:17] <Crowey> I try installing from a  disk or usb and i keep getting the same error even if I choose to try it before installing
[00:17] <eGeeked> It was originally - then I reformatted and removed. but that was months ago
[00:17] <zykotick9> eGeeked: jbod?
[00:17] <reineskye25_> can someone help me? im experiencing color problems after installing ubuntu in my sony vaio laptop
[00:18] <reineskye25_> the color/background light is bluish,
[00:18] <Hatori> zykotick9, thats special case i think :d
[00:18] <eGeeked> I also tried turning off dmraid but it stated no raids found
[00:18] <eGeeked> I am booting back up now - leaving BIOS
[00:18] <zykotick9> Hatori: i believe these drives probably are still wooked up to some MB RAID setup.  good luck.
[00:19] <OerHeks> oke, then Gparted should see 2 tb discs
[00:19] <reineskye25_> someone knows a solution for my problem?? can someone help me? im experiencing color problems after installing ubuntu in my sony vaio laptop the color/background light is bluish,
[00:19] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:19] <harrismrubin_> print "hello"
[00:19] <zykotick9> reineskye25_: bluish always, or in online video?
[00:19] <eGeeked> I am new to linux - jbod?
[00:19] <harrismrubin_> how do i get Python Programming with IDLE
[00:20] <eGeeked> I will check that OerHeks
[00:20] <reineskye25_> zykotick9: always sir. it really hurts my eyes
[00:20] <zykotick9> eGeeked: raid term for "Just a Bunch Of Disks"
[00:20] <zykotick9> reineskye25_: no idea, good luck.
[00:20] <eGeeked> I understand that
[00:20] <eGeeked> I work in IT just not a lot with Linux
[00:21] <eGeeked> Got ya - had to reread :) thanks
[00:21] <eGeeked> How do I run gparted I am not finding it
[00:22] <eGeeked> had to  install nvm
[00:22] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:22] <eGeeked> gparted shows only the SSD
[00:23] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are your HDs connected to the SATA RAID connector on your MB or the regular SATA connectors?
[00:24] <eGeeked> They are connected to the regular connectors - I don't believe there was any special ones
[00:24] <Hatori> wkmg/
[00:25] <harrismrubin_> how do i make a program in python
[00:25] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are they larger then 2TB?
[00:25] <eGeeked> They are 2tb
[00:25] <zykotick9> eGeeked: umm, then fdisk might not show them, you need parted
[00:25] <zykotick9> eGeeked: i haven't broken the 2TB limit myself.
[00:26] <eGeeked> I am using gparted
[00:26] <eGeeked> But they don't show in there
[00:26] <zykotick9> eGeeked: good lcuk.  i'll be watching your issue with interest, but don't have anything to contribute.
[00:27] <eGeeked> :( ok thanks
[00:30] <foobArrr> I'm using an USB KVM switch, one of the connected PCs runs Ubuntu. Sometimes when I switch to the Ubuntu PC, keyboard and mouse don't respond and dmesg is flooded with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167055/    any ideas?
[00:31] <IDWMaster> Hi
[00:31] <ahmedipa> hi everybody
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: what does: status -71   mean?
[00:31] <ahmedipa> I have question regarding partition
[00:31] <IDWMaster> I'm having graphics driver issues with the Intel GMA3600
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: ask away
[00:31] <IDWMaster> I can't install the driver package from the repository
[00:31] <ahmedipa> I faced problem with low space
[00:32] <IDWMaster> Unmet dependencies
[00:32] <ahmedipa> as this screen shot
[00:32] <IDWMaster> cedarview-drm
[00:32] <ahmedipa> http://dc617.4shared.com/img/AknwOMej/s7/0.6561522075578229/low-disk-space.png
[00:32] <IDWMaster> xserver-xorg-core
[00:32] <IDWMaster> xorg-video-abi-11
[00:32] <ahmedipa> http://dc588.4shared.com/img/Lm8a_s_o/s3/0.11715805144359082/disk-usage-analyzer.png
[00:32] <IDWMaster> I'm running a 64-bit installation of Ubuntu 12.04
[00:33] <ahmedipa> I have installed                 gparted
[00:33] <ahmedipa> http://dc588.4shared.com/img/6K0IZW3R/s7/0.6463969188540438/gparted.png
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: did you try to clear space, especially by removing old kernels?
[00:33] <ahmedipa> I feel that partition become complex
[00:34] <ahmedipa> I think it should be 3 partition
[00:34] <ahmedipa> 1- for windows 7
[00:34] <ahmedipa> 2- for ubuntu
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: that looks like a right mess
[00:34] <ahmedipa> 3- for my files ( video - documents )
[00:34] <IDWMaster> Ah
[00:34] <IDWMaster> Seriously! No 64-bit driver!
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: plus you set 25Gb for / and 1.6Gb for /home
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: which is really ass about face
[00:35] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip: I did not try to clear
[00:35] <IDWMaster> Is there any place to get 64-bit drivers?
[00:35] <ahmedipa> I don't want to lose any data any operation system
[00:35] <reuf> i have an image of 92x92px, and i need to resize it to 90x90px - how to with imagemagic?
[00:35] <IDWMaster> For the GMA3600
[00:35] <ahmedipa> either windows 7 or ubuntu
[00:35] <IDWMaster> I have a GMA3600 GPU and no drivers!
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: plus about 1.5Gb for nothing in between (sda6 and sda7)
[00:36] <IDWMaster> Drivers apparently only support 32-bit OSs
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: will you please quit hammering enter after every 3rd word
[00:36] <ahmedipa> I got confuse regarding sdas
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: it makes your question near-impossible to read
[00:36] <eGeeked> Just tried going back in to theinstaller to see if the other drives would show
[00:36] <eGeeked> I got nothing. This is pretty frustrating ha
[00:37] <ahmedipa> it is so diffrent from windows
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: I would reinstall the OS and get rid of all the Linux partitions and make fresh, you can keep sda9 if you want
[00:37] <ahmedipa> It should be ( C:  , D:  , E:   , F:   , G:  )
[00:37] <IDWMaster> My question is: How can I get 64-bit drivers for Ubuntu for the Intel GMA3600 chipset?
[00:37] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i'm very happy i didn't see ahmedipa's post and/or paste ;)  and "ass before face" i was trying to think of a police alternative, all i could think of was "cart infront of horse" but that's not good ;)
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: its not hard, just different
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: back to front is mor pc
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: sda1 to sda4 will be primary partitions, if you need more you need an extended partition. You will then have what you have; 3 primary partitions (sda1 to 3) then sda4 is the extended. the higher numbers therin are the logical partitions)
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: nothing tricky
[00:39] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:40] <ahmedipa> I think that you got full idea about my partitions
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: yes, just baffled why you have sda6 and sda7   what are they for?
[00:41] <ahmedipa> because there are a lot of partition
[00:41] <deadmund> ha
[00:41] <ahmedipa> I just know that sda 2 ( for windows 7 )
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: ok but what are sda6 and sd7 for?
[00:42] <ahmedipa> why you have sda6 and sda7   what are they for? I don't know I don't remember
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: ok then I suggest you boot to liveCD and delete them, you can then resize your /home partition into the free space and get an extra 1.5Gb space
[00:43] <eGeeked> zyko! I got 1 of them to show!
[00:43] <eGeeked> NVM GOT THEM ALL
[00:43] <eGeeked> ha
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: personally I'd jkust reinstall, deleteing all Linux partitions and installing with  1xRAM amount for swap and the rest for /.
[00:43] <ahmedipa> I know just  sda 2 for windows 7
[00:44] <ahmedipa> do you mean that u advice me to delete linux and install it again
[00:44] <IDWMaster> Hmm. The one thing Ubuntu needs is a bigger lobby at Intel and GPU companies.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: you will also be able to use the 30Gb of space you have unallocated (no idea why)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: basically its a mess
[00:44] <zykotick9> eGeeked: nice!  (see "/msg ubottu tab" for info on how to highlight me easily)
[00:45] <systems7> how do i add something to cron?
[00:45] <systems7> someone please help me?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: obviously run a full backup of your /home partition to keep current settings etc
[00:45] <jrib> !cron | systems7
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> systems7: do you use a desktop UI?
[00:45] <acu> hey guys - how can I configure two different VGA cards (one made by ATI [built in MB] the other one is a NVIDIA - ?
[00:45] <Dandude159> im having a problem getting su
[00:45] <ahmedipa> sda3 this is for my files ( in windows called E://)
[00:46] <jrib> !sudo | Dandude159
[00:46] <systems7> yes i do
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the windows partitions aren't interesting to us
[00:46] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:46] <Dandude159> oh its su?
[00:46] <jrib> Dandude159: I don't know what you mean by "oh its su?"
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> systems7: you can use gnome-schedule as a GUI to cron, or run:  gksudo gnome-schedule    to cron as root
[00:46] <Dandude159> oh its not su excuse me
[00:46] <ahmedipa> I have windows 7 for many years
[00:46] <Dandude159> im used to androd
[00:46] <zykotick9> acu: fyi i've heard of issues trying to get 3d working on an ati and nvidia at the same time.  i guess there kerenel drivers don't co-operate very well (or at all).
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: again, not useful to the situation
[00:47] <systems7> i have to run this command 'sudo modprobe b43' every time i boot up to get my wireless working
[00:47] <Dandude159> so lets say i want to do the usb boot of chrome os
[00:47] <systems7> how do i add this to cron?
[00:47] <Hatori> system7, add it to /etc/modules
[00:47] <systems7> what would i have to type in terminal
[00:47] <systems7> hatori
[00:47] <systems7> how
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: you made an extended partition but you made all kinds of dumb partitions for random things and hav e a real mess
[00:47] <ahmedipa> and I have installed ubuntu to use it instead of windows in future
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: do you use the sda9 NTFS partition for anything?
[00:48] <systems7> how do i add something to /etc/modules/?
[00:48] <ahmedipa> no it is empty partition
[00:48] <Hatori> system7, are you familiar with issuing command in terminal?
[00:48] <zykotick9> systems7: see systems7 answer for sure.  don't use cron for that.
[00:48] <deadmund> systems7: you open the file and write what you want in there.  It's just text.
[00:48] <systems7> no
[00:48] <ahmedipa> can I extend partition to marge sda9
[00:48] <Hatori> system7, :d
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: then this is really easy, delete all partitions from sda5 and up in liveCD then install to the freed space. You will have a lot more freedom
[00:48] <Hatori> !cli
[00:49] <rmiller90> Um, I have no idea how this works but I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 64 bit .iso off a flash drive and I my comp hangs up about here: http://i.imgur.com/nWjQo.jpg
[00:49] <zykotick9> systems7: sorry see Hatori answer ;)  my bad.  sorry Hatori.
[00:49] <ahmedipa> aha
[00:49] <Hatori> !cli | system7
[00:49] <eGeeked> zyko Do I have to format them to mount them?
[00:49] <systems7> !cli
[00:49] <systems7> can i edit modules with nano?
[00:49] <Hatori> zykotick9, no problemo :d
[00:49] <systems7> and add the line in there?
[00:49] <ahmedipa> may you give me special video to learn me how to install in best way and how to delete it in best way
[00:49]  * `Nano_ hides
[00:49] <deadmund> systems7: sure
[00:50] <ahmedipa> ??
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> systems7: sure, or use:  echo modulename | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[00:50] <rmiller90> anyone?
[00:50] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are you talking to me?  if so, use TAB key to get my nick right.  it will highlight me then.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: use gparted in liveCD and you can delete them there, no need for a video for that
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the partitions have keys next to them as they are mounted and in use, the liveCD will free up the partitions
[00:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: errors to /dev/null nice ;)
[00:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: actually, that's output?!?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: tee outputs to the stdout as well as the file, its just neater
[00:51] <systems7> lemme restart and see if it works
[00:51] <rmiller90> srsly who should i ask about this particular issue?
[00:51] <systems7> thanks action parsnip and hatori im gonna tset it snow
[00:52] <rmiller90> annnyone is this clusterfuck want to take a shot at this?
[00:52] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip: I have already installed gparted
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: once you remove the partitions, run the installer
[00:52] <jrib> rmiller90: please mind your language
[00:52] <rmiller90> *ok face*
[00:52] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: nice.  tee is something i know "almost" nothing about, excupt when you want sudo redirection you NEED to use it ;)
[00:52] <dr_willis> rmiller90:  how did you make the usb? did you verify the iso file's md5sum?
[00:53] <eGeeked> zykotick9 do I have to reformat the drives to get them to mount?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: installed gparted in the liveCD desktop?
[00:53] <zykotick9> eGeeked: nice ;)
[00:53] <dr_willis> eGeeked:  a partion needs to have a formated filesystem in order to have a filesystem to mount...
[00:53] <ahmedipa> I installed it by terminal
[00:53] <rmiller90> holddr_willis i used a program hold on
[00:53] <zykotick9> eGeeked: do you have data on there that you "care about"?
[00:53] <eGeeked> zykotick9 I will get there
[00:53] <systems7> it worked guys!
[00:53] <systems7> thanks so much1
[00:53] <rmiller90> Universal USB Installer
[00:53] <eGeeked> zykotick9 yes - It is my media server I have 400 some movies currently loaded
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: tee will put the text in the file on it's own (similar to >)  tee -a adds to the file, like >>
[00:54] <systems7> i did the command line that action told me to add it to the modules
[00:54] <systems7> thanks guys
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: yes, but in the liveCD desktop?
[00:54] <dr_willis> rmiller90:   did you verify the iso file's md5sum?
[00:54] <zykotick9> eGeeked: then i'm out.  good luck.  i don't want to lead you astray!
[00:54] <eGeeked> zykotick9 HA
[00:54] <rmiller90> I'm a newb. I have no idea what that means
[00:54] <ahmedipa> what do you mean by live cd
[00:54] <ahmedipa> I don't have CD
[00:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i know what tee is.  i've just never come across a "use case" myself ;)  thanks man!
[00:54] <rmiller90> =/
[00:54] <ahmedipa> I have usb flash to install ubuntu
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the CD (or USB) you boot to to install the OS.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ahh, its because sudo doesn't rraverse redirection. I use it a lot
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: then you will need to use that. Make sure you backup what you need first before you start
[00:55] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i loved the timing of my pm vs your public statement ;) hilarious
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: zing
[00:56] <ahmedipa> note// I installed ubuntu on sda5
[00:56] <ahmedipa> and I got surprise why there are many partition
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: doesn't matter, its all going to go.
[00:56] <dr_willis> !md5 > rmiller90
[00:57] <ahmedipa> as I understand that I have first using gparted to delete for example
 ok. also am i doin the taggy thingy right?
[00:57] <rmiller90> oh god i'm such a newb
[00:57] <ahmedipa> sda7
[00:57] <ahmedipa> and sda 6
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9
[01:02] <eGeeked> zykotick9 that plan is to boot from disk - run live - attempt to copy files over to 1 drive - format the others -move data back and format last drive
[01:03] <xubuntu> Hi
[01:03] <xubuntu> hello there =
[01:03] <Guest82312> hey guyys
[01:03] <Guest82312> helo ?
[01:04] <Guest82312> im installing xubuntu
[01:05] <arkanabar> well, I just upgraded from ATI 4670 to nVidia GT 630.  I'd uninstalled fglrx w/ Jockey, same way I'd installed it, but Jockey can't find any drivers for the new card.
[01:07] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are you now 100% sure, you can format the drives in ubuntu without issue?  be sure you have a backup of data (confirmed working) before you start.  i'm not a master at hd/partition detection anymore - did you get better advise from someone else-if so i'd recommend it?!  good luck man.
[01:08] <dr_willis> I find its worth  it to keep your hard drive partioning schemes as simple as possible. ;)
[01:08] <eGeeked> zykotick9 google
[01:09] <eGeeked> zykotick9 I just rebooted without doing anything and it mounted the drives - Its a Christmas miracle
[01:10] <zykotick9> eGeeked: nice.
[01:11] <tanath> anyone know why ubuntu would be slower than xp?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> tanath: config
[01:12] <tanath> ActionParsnip, elaborate?
[01:12] <arkanabar> any ideas, anyone?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> tanath: the configuration of each OS wuill directly affect performance
[01:12] <yekoms> tanath, explain slower.
[01:12] <yekoms> tanath, disable ALL eye candy and reload X and see if it improves.
[01:12] <tanath> linux was horribly laggy at times. xp not
[01:12] <yekoms> you prob hit a load spike.
[01:13] <tanath> it's frequent though, and always slow
[01:13] <yekoms> how old is this computer?
[01:13] <tanath> like added a list of wallpapers to xfce list and it lagged for a couple mins
[01:13] <tanath> yekoms, it's an old comp. p4, 1gb ram
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what video chip do you use?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what CPU do you use?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> tanath: how much RAM does the system have?
[01:14] <tanath> ActionParsnip, <tanath> yekoms, it's an old comp. p4, 1gb ram
[01:14] <tanath> not sure which vid card was in it
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> tanath: if you run: lspci | grep -i vga    you will see
[01:15] <tanath> it's a roommate's comp, so i don't have access to it right now. just curious if this is typical really
[01:15] <eGeeked> How can I tell if a program is running?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> eGeeked: ps -ef | grep name
[01:16] <yekoms> what is -e?
[01:16] <tanath> i alias 'ps -ef | grep' to psg
[01:16] <tanath> yekoms, man ps
[01:16] <tanath>  / to search
[01:17] <yekoms> i use ps ax|grep name
[01:17] <arkanabar> just uninstalled fglrx & amdcccle, then swapped Radeon 4670 out for EVGA nVidia GT 630.  Purged ATI drivers per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection?action=show&redirect=X%2FTroubleshooting%2FFglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch -- can't install nVidia drivers.
[01:17] <yekoms> or pgrep name
[01:17] <eGeeked> Thank you much
[01:17] <tanath> yekoms, that syntax is deprecated, iirc
[01:17] <yekoms> uhm, i dont see how -a = all.
[01:18] <yekoms> ps x|grep name incase you dont want -all
[01:18] <tanath> er, sorry, it's bsd syntax for compatibility
[01:18] <yekoms> it works on bsd or linux.
[01:18] <BarkingFish> Morning guys - have you seen the news from adobe? We're losing access to Adobe Flashplayer, apparently.
[01:18] <tanath>        -a     Select all processes except both session leaders (see getsid(2)) and processes not associated with a terminal.
[01:18] <yekoms> is that any different then ALL ?
[01:18] <eGeeked> Thanks yekoms
[01:19] <yekoms> welcome eGeeked
[01:19] <tanath>        -A     Select all processes.  Identical to -e.
[01:19] <BarkingFish> This message is plastered up on adobe's website:  "NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux."
[01:19] <yekoms> black@blackness:~/eggdrop$ ps xA
[01:19] <yekoms> ERROR: Unsupported option (BSD syntax)
[01:19] <yekoms> tanath, what manpage are you reading?
[01:19] <tanath> yekoms, ps
[01:19] <yekoms> not on ubuntu.
[01:19] <yekoms> i dont have -A
[01:19] <tanath> i'm on arch
[01:20] <tanath> you sure? search?
[01:20] <yekoms> omg, i cant believe A requires -
[01:20] <yekoms> has to be done ps -A x, not ps Ax
[01:20] <yekoms> tanath, ps --help|grep "-A" is what i did.
[01:20] <yekoms> much faster then man ps, / search
[01:21] <tanath> yekoms, --help is often different from man page
[01:21] <yekoms> i really dont feel like writing the create section of my openvz eggdrop.
[01:21] <tanath> yekoms, not for me. and once you're in man page it's easier to navigate for other things
[01:21] <yekoms> help is the embedded manpage.
[01:21] <Shay> some here linux developer ?
[01:21] <tanath> yekoms, no
[01:21] <arkanabar> Am I better off reinstalling in order to get the right video drivers to install?
[01:21] <yekoms> we all develop ;P
[01:22] <Shay> I looking for someone who is developer of Canonical
[01:22] <tanath> arkanabar, did you specifiy why you can't?
[01:22] <deadmund> Shay: they don't hang out in here
[01:23] <Shay> @deadmund where can I find them ?
[01:23] <arkanabar> I uninstalled fglrx, pulled my ATI 4670 GPU, installed nVidia GT 630.  Jockey can't find a driver for it.
[01:24] <deadmund> Shay: IDK
[01:24] <deadmund> arkanabar: jockey doesn't work well.  Use sudo lspci -k to see your driver.
[01:24] <Shay>  /msg deadmund do you have any clue ? maybe android developers ?
[01:25] <deadmund> IDK!
[01:25] <deadmund> :)
[01:25] <yekoms> idk = i dont know, shay
[01:25] <yekoms> incase you didnt know. welp MW3 time ;)
[01:25] <dr_willis> IDK what IDK means.. ;P
[01:25] <Shay> don't kill me yet :P I'm looking for Ubuntu for android any chance where I find alpha builds ?
[01:26] <yekoms> uhm, ask in android.
[01:26] <dr_willis> Shay:  that dosent make a lot of sence.. unless you are refering to those ubuntu in a VM running on android...
[01:26] <tanath> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[01:26] <dr_willis> Shay:  or you mean reflashing an android device to run ubuntu...
[01:26] <yekoms> android can support android?
[01:26] <yekoms> damnit.
[01:26] <yekoms> android can support vm ubuntu?
[01:26] <yekoms> there!
[01:26] <Shay> yes reflash device to run ubuntu
[01:26] <arkanabar> deadmund, using nouveau.
[01:26] <dr_willis> yekoms:  thats possible. ;)
[01:26] <Shay> I know it's out there
[01:26] <yekoms> Shay you'll need root first.
[01:27] <Shay> I have root acess
[01:27] <dr_willis> Shay:  and it will very very much depend on your device..
[01:27] <deadmund> arkanabar: great, that's the open source driver.  There is a closed source one but you shouldn't switch to it unless you have some problem.
[01:27] <yekoms> then you find the flash package for ubuntu, and use CM to flash that rom.
[01:27] <yekoms> CM-Recovery.
[01:27] <RealOpty> ubuntu on android isnt that exciting. had it on my tablet. was a pain in the ass to use lol
[01:27] <Shay> I have Great device : Galaxy S3
[01:27] <yekoms> warning: its known that ubuntu can destroy a android device.
[01:28] <dr_willis> Shay  you are wanting to flash ubuntu to your Cell Phone?
[01:28] <yekoms> yes dr_willis
[01:28] <Shay> yes
[01:28] <arkanabar> deadmund,  like, say, screen flicker and suboptimal screen resolution?
[01:28] <tanath> installer link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zpwebsites.ubuntuinstall
[01:28] <dr_willis> Shay:  You realize it may not be useable as a phone after that?
[01:28] <yekoms> dr_willis, i dont think he cares.
[01:28] <deadmund> arkanabar: pretty good reason.  What does xrandr say about your resolution?
[01:28] <Shay> I realize the risk
[01:29] <arkanabar> 1024x768, 60hz, which is native.
[01:29] <tanath> Shay, ^ what you're looking for?
[01:29] <deadmund> arkanabar: "native" ?
[01:29] <Shay> Ubuntu that can be flashed on my galaxy S3 instead of android
[01:29] <arkanabar> to the hitachi cm751 monitor I'm using.  But its max is 1600x1200.
[01:30] <Shay> I realize the risks could you please tell me where can i find a guide of how to do it ?
[01:30] <Shay> or just from where should I download the files ?
[01:30] <dr_willis> first google hit for 'install ubuntu s3' --> http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-ubuntu-installation-linux-97316/
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: -ef is the linux standard, ax is the BDS, not all ps's will use ax so its good to use the linux standard in linux (imho)
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: the ps man page shows you
[01:31] <dr_willis> that may not be a native rom.. (readingit now)
[01:31] <deadmund> arkanabar: Does xrandr list higher resolutions?
[01:31] <arkanabar> nope.
[01:32] <deadmund> arkanabar: please ping my name like I'm doing for you.
[01:32] <yekoms> universal commands > restricted commands ... imho.
[01:32] <Shay> I know this technique . this is with VNC
[01:32] <Shay> this is not dangerous
[01:32] <Shay> I was taking about
[01:32] <arkanabar> 0.43 seconds.
[01:32] <Shay> Ununtu by Canonical which create a dual boot on your device
[01:32] <deadmund> arkanabar: Alright, try the nvidia driver.  Here is a list of packages.  See the ones that end in e.g. 173, 96, etc   ?
[01:33] <dr_willis> Looks like at this time theres no 'ubuntu roms' to flash to a S3.
[01:33] <arkanabar> one moment please.
[01:33] <Shay> I know there's a verison hidden within the dev hands
[01:33] <brightsparks> I'm running xfce desktop on ubuntu 12.04. When I type xfce4-panel in the terminal the system seems to really speed up? Anyone tell me why? Also when I checked in the package manager I don't seem to have xfce installed. Also how can I find out which version of xfce it is I have running as desktop?
[01:33] <Shay> I have a friend who was the version I'm looking for
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: both work, but if you hit a ps without the bsd compatibility, you'll need to hit the man pages. If you are using linux I think its a better choice to use the linux standard
[01:33] <Shay> for Galaxy S2
[01:33] <Shay> :(
[01:34] <arkanabar> deadmund,  I play WoW, so I need current -- earlier versions are not supported.
[01:34] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i'd say "ps aux" is both BSD/Unix is standard.  isn't gnu/linux a unix-like OS?  [AP, not for you] NOTE: it's "ps aux" not "ps -aux" (see 1st line error message if you use this)
[01:34] <deadmund> arkanabar: alright (assuming you're right).  sudo apt-get purge noeavuou (however you spell that).  and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    then reboot
[01:35] <tryingUbuntu> cannot connect the docky weather app...  I put the zip in the search field and it finds my town but nothing happens.. ? 0 Degrees     ????
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: the man page outlines it all :)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> deadmund: nouveau
[01:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ssh / i forget / man ftw now ;)
[01:36] <deadmund> ActionParsnip: that's it!
[01:36] <deadmund> It's a bingo
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: or the man bang in ddg :)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> deadmund: oh man, not seen taht film in ages
[01:37] <deadmund> :)
[01:37] <kn0x> Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some advice about Ubuntu 12.04.1 server, NFS exporting an OCFS2  file system and system reboots (From what i can deduce is, OCFS2 is rebooting the hosts when they are under load)
[01:37] <zykotick9> kn0x: wth is OCFS2?
[01:38] <kn0x> I have tried increasing the timeout values, however im curious if that is the correct course of action. I have also noticed that randomly, NFS will unexport itself.. secondary issue, i noticed a bug in the ubuntu bug reports for 12.04.1
[01:38] <kn0x> Oracle Cluster File System 2
[01:39] <tryingUbuntu>  cannot connect the docky weather app...  I put the zip in the search field and it finds my town but nothing happens.. ? 0 Degrees     ????
[01:42] <kn0x> Anyone?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> kn0x: have you asked in #ubuntu-server too?
[01:45] <tryingUbuntu> Also, if this means anything I cannot find radio stations in npr... I also, just installed docky and tried logging out and back in with no effect    cannot connect the docky weather app...  I put the zip in the search field and it finds my town but nothing happens.. ? 0 Degrees     ????
[01:46] <harrismrubin_> can i make an ubuntu app from python
[01:47] <stercor> Does the 12.04LTS Live Disk have LibreOffice on it?
[01:48] <kn0x> When will Ubuntu fix the NFS problem with the kernel and the client in 12.04.1 LTS Server. It keeps crashing my client servers
[01:48] <txema> Hi, how save my XRANDR seetings on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:49] <John_Michael> hey guys, im having a resolution issue with ubuntu 12.04 and amd 6870 drivers (both proprietary and the defaults), i can't get the resolution set to 1920x1080 through the GUI or xrandr
[01:49] <harrismrubin_> can someone teach me how to write code
[01:49] <harrismrubin_> in python
[01:49] <John_Michael> even though the card and monitor support it
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: i'd ask in #python
[01:49] <John_Michael> http://pastebin.com/ya123kBB is a log of my latest attempt to xrandr it
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: make an xorg.conf file then manually edit it to the res you want
[01:50] <stercor> harrismrubin_: There may be a Python channel, or tutorials on the
[01:50] <stercor> web\\
[01:50] <Colton_> when i install unbuntu it does nothing
[01:50] <txema> XRANDR executes OK, but how save the seeting, and when i logon on ubuntu my screen resolution = 1920x1080?
[01:51] <kn0x> Is there an Ubuntu server IRC channel?
[01:51] <zykotick9> Colton_: see "/msg ubottu !doesntwork" and/or "/msg ubottu !details"
[01:52] <Colton_> sorry pardon
[01:52] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip: Under 'Section "Screen"' , do I want to set Viewport 1920 1080?
[01:52] <Colton_> do what
[01:52] <zykotick9> Colton_: FYI using ! when using /msg is an error - sorry.
[01:53] <rmiller90> Can anyone explain to me how to get around the dual boot black screen freezing on install issue?
[01:53] <zykotick9> rmiller90: see "/msg ubottu nomodeset"
[01:54] <Colton_> i didnt do /ms
[01:54] <Colton_> i didnt do */msg
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: yes, if the line is currently showing the res it is at now
[01:55] <zykotick9> Colton_: see "/msg ubottu doesntwork" and/or "/msg ubottu details" and look for two PMs from "ubottu"
[01:56] <Colton_> it said unbutto details
[01:56] <zykotick9> sorry
[01:56] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, it's showing 0 0, so that could be part of the problem lol
[01:56] <Colton_> hello
[01:56] <zykotick9> !doesntwork | Colton_
[01:56] <zykotick9> !detail | Colton_
[01:56] <zykotick9> !details | Colton_
[01:56] <Colton_> ohh
[01:57] <Colton_> unbuntu 12.10 when i try to install i get through three step then a cmd window pops up and frezzez and i have to restart and windows starts
[01:57] <zykotick9> !msgthebot | Colton_
[01:58] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 Colton_
[01:58] <Colton_> i dont understand i just got irc
[01:58] <kn0x> Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some advice about Ubuntu 12.04.1 server, NFS exporting an OCFS2  file system and system reboots (From what i can deduce is, OCFS2 is rebooting the hosts when they are under load)
[01:59] <zykotick9> bazhang: +1 ;)
[01:59] <kn0x> df -h
[01:59] <kn0x> oops
[01:59] <Colton_> does anyone have skype or mumble to tell me alot easier
[01:59] <tryingUbuntu> any help with that Docky weatherbug that doesn't connect to a correct zip found in the weather search field???  Also, I can not find any radio stations with npr and cannot download or watch any videos with minitube... Seems to be somekind of connection error somewhere
[01:59] <bazhang> Colton_, /join #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <tryingUbuntu> BUT minitube finds searches immediately
[02:00] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, that didn't work, still running at the wrong resolution
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: did you reboot ?
[02:01] <John_Michael> yea
[02:03] <JKnight> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. I did a fresh install a few days ago and just noticed my drive space is gotten lower than expected on my main hard drive. I believe I messed up the partition. Looks like in GParted there is a /dev/sda2 of extended 111.32 GiB. Is there a way to fix the partition on the main drive, without having to re-install everything again?
[02:05] <Datz> Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows if there are showstoppers preventing the package skype provides for 10.04 from working on 12.04.
[02:05] <John_Michael> you should be able to resize the partition JKnight
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: ive no experience with ati video chips, maybe looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will shine some lights
[02:05] <Colton_> nobody is talkin in that irc
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Datz: should be ok as long as deps can be met. Is it different?
[02:05] <bazhang> Colton_, be patient. thats the correct channel
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Colton_: still doesn't make quantal supported here
[02:06] <zykotick9> JKnight: i'd recommend checking your / for free space?  what other partitions did you create?  "df -h" should show Used/Avil.
[02:06] <DroneX> olla
[02:07] <ismael> Hola
[02:07] <Datz> ActionParsnip:
[02:07] <Datz> ActionParsnip: I have no idea
[02:07] <Harrismrubin> what should i write programs to do in python
[02:07] <Guest22393> I want to install Xubuntu, but I don't really know if I should install 12.10 or 12.04.1
[02:08] <Datz> ActionParsnip: I think I have it working on my desktop iirc. But I think it's made for gnome2
[02:08] <DroneX> want to install xXxubuntu tonight
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest22393, 12.04.1 is the longterm 12.10 is about 3 weeks from release.
[02:08] <Harrismrubin> does anyone here write code
[02:09] <Datz> Anyway, I'll think I'll try it. I'll let you know how it goes if you like ActionParsnip
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> Harrismrubin, Is this a ubuntu issue it seems not?
[02:09] <DroneX> Harrismrubin: maybe in what lanuage
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Datz: the DE is irrelevant, it can run in any desktop
[02:10] <Harrismrubin> python
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Datz: why not grab the deb from the skype website...
[02:12] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, that didnt really shed much light. i've just tried a fglrx reinstall to no avail
[02:14] <Datz> ActionParsnip: that's what I'm doing
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Datz: sweet
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Datz: expect a LOT of deps if your OS is 64bit
[02:15] <Harrismrubin> DroneX,  python
[02:15] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, reverting to stock ubuntu drivers with a modified xorg.conf file results in the monitor not working at all
[02:17] <Harrismrubin> what should a teen write code for
[02:17] <Harrismrubin> i am a teen and i want to write code but i dont know what i should write code for
[02:18] <John_Michael> Harrismrubin, you should join a python channel, someone there will have more ideas
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> Harrismrubin, This is ubuntu support you might try #ubuntu-offtopic . ;)
[02:18] <zykotick9> Datz: fyi "uname -m" from terminal will tell kernel version, x86_64 = amd64, iSOMETHING is 32 bit
[02:19] <Datz> zykotick9: sure thanks. It may have installed...
[02:19] <Datz> no icon.. I'll try and run it from the terminal
[02:20] <vvpalin> /clear
[02:23] <John_Michael> this driver/graphics issue is annoying :?
[02:25] <a_p3rson_> so on my newly upgraded copy of 11.10, i am having a problem where the desktop is wildy stretched (the unity bar is fine), and the screen isnt updating the way it should be. any help?
[02:25] <a_p3rson_> ubuntu is practically in an unusable state now
[02:25] <kn0x> Try NFS.. same thing
[02:26] <a_p3rson_> nfs...?
[02:26] <kn0x> Broken in 12.04.1
[02:26] <a_p3rson_> (also, if I have a transparent element on the desktop, like the alt+f2 menu, underneath it is just fine).
[02:28] <a_p3rson_> kn0x: any other ideas?
[02:28] <a_p3rson_> id post a screencap, but all the screen stuff is messed up
[02:29] <kn0x> No idea man, im having server issues not desktop issues
[02:29] <kn0x> NFS is basically unstable and unusable
[02:29] <a_p3rson_> ah, i thought you were trying to suggest solutions to my problem
[02:29] <a_p3rson_> my bad, sorry
[02:30] <John_Michael> anyone else have any ideas on how to deal with this display issue? the fglrx drivers and the default ubuntu drivers both don't support 1920x1080
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> a_p3rson_, YOu could try alt-f2 unity --reset  hard to say if it will work, did you installed graphic drivers in 11.10?
[02:30] <John_Michael> tried changing via gui, xrandr, and xorg.conf and nothing works
[02:31] <a_p3rson_> wilee-nilee: i actually had them installed in 10.04, just started the upgrade steps to precise this afternoon
[02:31] <fishbait> okay i have a 2 monitor 2 desktop setup how i get it to share worksapces between them?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> a_p3rson_, I believe you have top reinstall them on upgrades, I have never had to install a graphic driver myself, others may confirm this.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> to*
[02:32] <a_p3rson_> ok, just tried that, and it only worked for a moment
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> a_p3rson_, It may be you have to remove the old ones first and install the new ones.
[02:33] <fishbait> willie-nilee: i've heard dkms can be used to avoid having to do that
[02:33] <fishbait> reinstalling on each kernel i mean
[02:33] <a_p3rson_> how would i do that over terminal? seems to be the only working thing right now, i have an ATI card, so it would be removing CCC
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> fishbait, As I suggested this is beyond my pay scale, others should be confirming this, I have never sen dkms here though.
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> seen*
[02:34] <seumas_> whats the slowest hardware you managed to get 12.04.1 to work on?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> seumas_, look at the specs needed that is a poll question, there are other lighter desktops.
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> then unity anyway
[02:36] <bazhang> !requirements> seumas_
[02:36] <eset> buenas noches
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> !pm > fishbait
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> fishbait, I do not PM.
[02:37] <fishbait> wilee-nilee: i saw a forum post on it before thought that maybe a google search would help the person re-installing every kernel is a real pain in the butt
[02:38] <seumas_> i was just asking so far it's running on my ancient 500mhz pent 3
[02:38] <seumas_> a bit slow but fully functioning
[02:38] <fishbait> ooh is it a slot 1 processor?
[02:38] <seumas_> yup
[02:38] <seumas_> :D
[02:39] <John_Michael> hmm now i cant delete read-only files as root in recovery mode
[02:39] <seumas_> good old slot one
[02:39] <KM0201> you can do anything as root in recovery mode.
[02:39] <fishbait> O.O i once ran debian on a 266mhz hp with a slot 1 processor only thing that ever died on it was the hdd
[02:39] <eset> amigos colegas necesito su colaboracion en una cosa
[02:39] <John_Michael> KM0201, ubuntu is saying otherwise
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> John_Michael, Is the partition mounted?
[02:40] <KM0201> John_Michael: ubuntu, as in.. someone at Cannonical, or the OS?
[02:40] <Kardos> ...
[02:40] <John_Michael> remounted the drive as read/write, fixed
[02:40] <a_p3rson_> ok, just tried doing sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx, and that sure as hell didnt work.
[02:41] <fishbait> okay i have a 2 monitor 2 desktop setup how do i get it to share worksapces for both monitors
[02:41] <John_Michael> a_p3rson_, there are more package names
[02:41] <KM0201> fishbait: you mean one big desktop, as opposed to a separate work space on each screen
[02:41] <a_p3rson_> it removed 2, any more?
[02:41] <a_p3rson_> John_Michael:
[02:42] <fishbait> KM0201: no i mean i have 2 monitors and want them to share a four workspace pool
[02:42] <John_Michael> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[02:42] <John_Michael> a_p3rson_, ^^^
[02:42] <KM0201> hmm, i know how to do it with Gnome/Nvidia... Unity, made dual screen weird for me.
[02:43] <KM0201> fishbait: whats your graphics card?
[02:43] <eset> help
[02:43] <a_p3rson_> will try that, soon as I can get into the recovery mode
[02:43] <fishbait> KM0201: ati radeon hd 6670 fglrx driver gnome-fallback gui
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> !es | eset
[02:44] <KM0201> fishbait: ah, ok.. i have no idea on ATI... i hate ati.
[02:44] <eset> trankyou
[02:44] <fishbait> ... maybe link me to the nvidia ones to give me a clue?
[02:45] <OerHeks> !ati
[02:45] <KM0201> fishbait: i highly doubt it, because it uses the nvidia configuration tool to set it up.
[02:45] <fishbait> ahh i see twin view right?
[02:45] <KM0201> more or less, yes.
[02:46] <a_p3rson_> John_Michael: just tried that through the recovery console, said they werent installed. libgladeui and dkms were installed though, and said they are no longer required
[02:46] <John_Michael> then just do an autoremove and your done
[02:47] <fishbait> no not what i'm going for i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace
[02:49] <a_p3rson_> John_Michael: still didnt work. cant even get to the login screen, seeing lots of strange colors on my monitor, thats it.
[02:51] <John_Michael> a_p3rson_, not sure what to tell you
[02:51] <John_Michael> i havent been able to get my graphics card to work properly in linux either
[02:51] <John_Michael> pretty depressing
[02:52] <a_p3rson_> also, if i push ctrl-alt-f1-f7, the screen changes, as if it knows something is happening
[02:52] <a_p3rson_> (f1 through f7)
[02:52] <fishbait> dual monitor multi-desktop radeon hd 6670 gnome-fallback i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace
[02:52] <fishbait> how?
[02:54] <fishbait> dual monitor multi-desktop radeon hd 6670 gnome-fallback i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace anyone able to help me accomplish this?
[02:58] <chicognu> how do i encrypt my home folder in a usb live disk ?
[03:00] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:03] <glah> helo all
[03:03] <chicognu> how do i encrypt my home folder in a usb live disk ?
[03:04] <bazhang> chicognu, perhaps you mean a persistent usb
[03:04] <chicognu> bazhang, not sure ... i creat it usin usb-disk command
[03:05] <bazhang> chicognu, a live usb does not save changes
[03:05] <chicognu> bazhang, my saves, i choose the options to store 4gb of data
[03:05] <bazhang> !usb | chicognu check the last link here
[03:05] <bazhang> chicognu, thats persistent then
[03:05] <chicognu> nice
[03:05] <chicognu> so it can be encrypted ?
[03:07] <chicognu> bazhang, mine i creat just using the usb-creator-gtk
[03:08] <chicognu> and choosing to save things in pendrive
[03:09] <bazhang> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/encrypt-home-folder-ubuntu-installation-linux/ chicognu this may be useful
[03:10] <John_Michael> Anyone have any ideas on how to get ubuntu to recognize the max. resolution of my screen properly? xrandr and xconf changes havent worked
[03:10] <chicognu> i just open this link right now hehe thank you bazhang
[03:11] <lxer> so
[03:14] <seumas_> does anyone in here play around with old hardware?
[03:14] <bazhang> !ot | seumas_
[03:21] <rds_>  hai Guys ! anyone tell me where to get royalty free images for web designing for free ?
[03:27] <nvictor> has anyone used the auditd tool ?
[03:30] <Tiktalik> what graphics card brands are best for linux
[03:31] <fishbait> dual monitor multi-desktop radeon hd 6670 gnome-fallback i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace anyone able to help me accomplish this?
[03:32] <raymond_> fishbait, I might be wrong, but isn't that how it works out of the box?
[03:33] <fishbait> no now they both point to seperate set if i select my current workspace it shows different ones on both
[03:34] <raymond_> fishbait, ok.. so you don't want screen cloning.. but you want to be able to independently select the workspace shown on each screen from the same set?  And not have them linked how they are normally.
[03:34] <fishbait> yep
[03:35] <viril> hello!
[03:35] <viril> anyone want to share a site with downloadable pdf or powerpoint presentation for training in Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:35] <viril> or at least installation guide pdf or ppt?
[03:37] <xangua> !manual | viril
[03:38] <viril> thanks xangua
[03:41] <tech1> im trying to remove wine. i used sudo apt-get remove wine, and sudo apt-get --purge remove wine, but the wine folders are still there and its still there in the panel menu
[03:46] <nvictor> anyone ?
[03:46] <raymond_> fishbait, http://superuser.com/questions/74914/gnu-linux-dual-screen-and-seperate-workspaces <-- seems it might be possible, but may require a different window manager.
[03:47] <fishbait> hmm ty
[03:48] <Nautilus> i have 12.04 with LXDE but Synaptic won't start.  It asks for auth then just... nothing
[03:48] <Nautilus> ideas?
[03:49] <raymond_> Nautilus, I've hit that problem before.  iirc it's an issue with gnome-keyring.
[03:50] <raymond_> If you want to start it though, you can start it in a termial with sudo synaptic
[03:50] <Nautilus> oh thanks, that does it :)
[03:53] <raymond_> Nautilus,   http://askubuntu.com/questions/162011/synaptic-wont-launch-from-menu-in-panel-in-fresh-lubuntu-minimal-desktop-12-04 <-- This solution might work for you getting to launch from the menu.
[03:55] <Nautilus> raymond_: IN my case I get the auth dialog, but nothing happens after that
[03:55] <MagusAgnus> good evening
[03:56] <MagusAgnus> anyone expert in gpt and grub?
[03:58] <raymond_> Nautilus, I forgot exactly what I did to solve the problem.. I think it just magically corrected itself after an update.
[03:59] <Nautilus> ok, no biggie for now.  I do have updates for the last few days to apply
[03:59] <raymond_> maybe try reinstalling policykit?
[03:59] <Nautilus> ike this?  sudo apt-get reinstall policykit  ?
[04:00] <Nautilus> or remove and install?
[04:01] <raymond_> Nautilus, try reinstall first.
[04:01] <jagginess> Nautilus, apt-get --reinstall install <packagename>
[04:02] <Nautilus> just found it like this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename   ... option order doesnt matter there?
[04:03] <jagginess> eh
[04:03] <jagginess> good boy you found out how to do it
[04:03] <Nautilus> do i get a cookie :)       (thanks!)
[04:04] <jagginess> no, it makes you look dumb after i told the channel how to do it. No thanks.
[04:04]  * jagginess sleeps
[04:05] <Nautilus> i look dumb anyways
[04:14] <juniour> hi
[04:14] <juniour> hello
[04:14] <juniour> guys
[04:15] <TheChaser> hrmm?
[04:15] <TheChaser> lol
[04:15] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:16] <juniour> i have downloaded the soure from firefox website but how would i install
[04:17] <juniour> i have downloaded the soure from firefox website but how would i install
[04:17] <juniour> ubot
[04:18] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:18] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:18] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:18] <FloodBot1> juniour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <juniour> mode/#ubuntu
[04:19] <juniour>  mode/#ubuntu [-zq juniour!*@*]
[04:19] <juniour> quit
[04:19] <juniour> exit
[04:19] <acolytetojippity> hey, quick question, when installing ubuntu on a portable hard drive, do i need to make a seperate partition for /boot, /home, /usr, etc. or can i install the whole thing to one larger partition (i guess mounting '/' to it?)
[04:19] <ProVida> hi guys
[04:21] <hack> hi
[04:21] <hack> guys
[04:21] <x010100x> hello
[04:21] <hack> how to install latest version of firefox
[04:21] <x010100x> any way to recover password on ubuntu server 12.04
[04:22] <x010100x> the lack of root is killing me
[04:22] <hack> i have downloaded the source from firefox site but how to install
[04:22] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: I don't know a lot about it but I think minimal best install is a /tmp partition (2x size of ram) and a partition for everything else.  There's aeven a particular type of partition for /tmp
[04:22] <acolytetojippity> install ff on ubuntu?
[04:22] <hack> how to install latest version of firefox
[04:22] <hack> i have downloaded the source from firefox site but how to install
[04:22] <acolytetojippity> doesn't ff install by default?
[04:22] <blackhole> hi
[04:23] <acolytetojippity> @nautilus i allocated a swap partition
[04:23] <Nautilus> yea that's the /tmp
[04:23] <acolytetojippity> it wasn't twice my ran though
[04:23] <acolytetojippity> i'm working with a 50GB partition on a portable HDD
[04:24] <Nautilus> 50G /tmp?
[04:24] <acolytetojippity> so putting 6-16GB of swap takes a huge chunk out of workable space
[04:24] <acolytetojippity> no, 50GB for the entire install
[04:24] <juniour> hi
[04:24] <acolytetojippity> the remaining space on the drive is going to be used as storage for anime
[04:24] <hack> how to install latest version of firefox
[04:24] <hack> i have downloaded the source from firefox site but how to install
[04:25] <Nach0z> make && make install, usually
[04:25] <acolytetojippity> hack, did you read what I typed?
[04:25] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: you could google for size recommendations.  If you're at 4 to 6 that might be fine
[04:25] <juniour> how to change the login drum sound
[04:26] <acolytetojippity> hmm, ok.  I mean, i installed it all from a liveCD, but i can't boot into it.  grub yells at me, something about unrecognized filesystem.
[04:26] <hack> yes its the but i want latest
[04:26] <acolytetojippity> might that be because I never made a /boot partition?
[04:26] <Nautilus> what you want is a swap partition AND a OS partition.
[04:26] <hack>  acolytetojippity i want latest
[04:26] <Nautilus> then install to the OS partition
[04:27] <juniour> how to change the login drum sound in 12.04
[04:27] <acolytetojippity> yeah, i have a swap partition.  and a larger partition i made '/'
[04:27] <acolytetojippity> mounted to '/'
[04:27] <acolytetojippity> or however you say it.
[04:27] <Nautilus> hmm.  you named it "/"?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> juniour: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101790/disable-or-change-gnome-drum-beat-sound
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> juniour: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+change+login+drum+sound
[04:28] <acolytetojippity> no, in the installer GUI.  i picked the 50GB partition, and changed it to ext3, and mounted '/' to it
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> juniour: too hard for you?
[04:28] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: oh, do you know what filesystem you chose for the large partition?  (I usually use ext3)
[04:29] <acolytetojippity> yeah, ext3.  it's not the first partition on the HDD though, because windows wouldn't recognize the entire HDD if the first partition is ext3
[04:29] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: also, IIRC there is a *special* filesystem you select when making the swap partition
[04:29] <acolytetojippity> yep.  i selected swap for that one.  should the swap partition go at the end of the drive?
[04:29] <Nautilus> oder doesn't matter, outside of (possible?) performance issues
[04:30] <acolytetojippity> so it can still boot from a partition at the ass-end of the drive?  that's good.
[04:30] <toyiak> I just updated my 12.04 and my firefox won't start.  Installed Chromium and it too would not start.  I have access to net (hence the update and installation of Chromium) but no web browser will start.  Any one else ever experience this?
[04:30] <Nautilus> i dont think order matters anyways.  I have a dual boot box with XP, Ubuntu OS, Ubuntu swap partition order
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> toyiak: launch them from terminal, the output will be useful
[04:30] <toyiak> good idea
[04:31] <Nautilus> actually mine is NTFS, NTFS, U large, U swap
[04:31] <acolytetojippity> This is not a dualboot though.  this is on a portable hard drive i'm trying to boot from.  hell, i even pulled the sata cable from my internal drive to be safe before installing 12.04 on the portable
[04:31] <Nautilus> ohhh, botting from external, not sure I can help ya there, but it did find grub so I'm guessing that part worked?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> juniour: have you not seen that page I posted?
[04:32] <kenpachi7996> toyiak: before trying to launch from terminal us "ps U (username)" and ensure that you kill all pid for any firefox instances running
[04:32] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: ah, so the box just sees the single drive anyways
[04:32] <acolytetojippity> yeah.  it only can see the portable
[04:32] <acolytetojippity> should we take this to private chat, to not clog up other people trying to get help?
[04:33] <Nautilus> so grub tried but something with the filesystems
[04:33] <Nautilus> i think I halped as much as I can.
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> it said
[04:33] <juniour> ActionParsnip this will change startup sound not login screen drum
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> error: unrecognizeable filesystem
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> grub rescue>
[04:33] <Nautilus> sounds like there's other partitions on the drive.  dunno if Ubuntu OS needs to be a primary partition
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> wait...
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> juniour: change the sound file named and it will change the drum sound, you can check by manually playing the sound yourself
[04:34] <juniour> ActionParsnip i changed th startup sound but stucke in login screen drum sound
[04:34] <juniour> ya i have seen drup sound is not there
[04:34] <acolytetojippity> priary partition...you're saying that grub might have been trying to boot from the first partition it saw that was 'primary'?
[04:34] <acolytetojippity> and that wasn't the ubuntu installation, so GRUB kinda derped?
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> juniour: does the drum sound play if you open /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg
[04:35] <Nautilus> no, there are 'primary" and 'extended'(?) partitions, if I recall the names correctly.  Not using the word to mean first.
[04:35] <acolytetojippity> is that related to 'logical' partitions?
[04:35] <Nautilus> ah, yep.  IIRC logicals go in extendeds
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> juniour: there may be other sound files in the same folder, play a few and you will see which file to replace
[04:36] <juniour> ActionParsnip its not the actual fiel it symbolic link to orignal
[04:36] <juniour> ActionParsnip system-ready.ogg is there
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> juniour: the OS doesn't care, its still a playable file
[04:36] <juniour> but symbolic
[04:37] <acolytetojippity> ok.  which do i want to have?  i can reformat the storage part of the drive, if needed.  there's no files on it yet
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> juniour: well you have an avenue to run with. Suprised you haven't seen this considering it took me less than 60 seconds to find. Did you even websearch a litle to try and find the files?
[04:38] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: I'd probably try again... remove the 2 partitions, recreate a swap partion (specifically choosing swap filesystem), and create your main partition as ext3 ... both as Primary partitions if possible (that can depend on how many total partitions there are)
[04:38] <juniour> ActionParsnip if i rename the another sound file to system-ready.ogg and replace to orignal it will work
[04:38] <buhman> ubuntu: on every boot ip6tables ends up looking like this: http://sprunge.us/KQQf
[04:38] <buhman> I want to know what's loading those policies
[04:38] <buhman> and how to change the policies to ACCEPT
[04:38] <acolytetojippity> do i want the storage partition to be primary?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> juniour: you can symlink the sound file to another, or copy in a new one, its the same difference in Linux
[04:39] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: storage partition?
[04:39] <acolytetojippity> i mean, i can delete that partition in the ubuntu installer, and then format it again in windows if i need to, if that's what it takes
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> juniour: obviously you will need sudo to make the changes as the folder is owned by root
[04:39] <Nautilus> format it in windows??
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: primary partitions and logical partitions don't make any difference, as long as it is a partition
[04:40] <acolytetojippity> yeah, i use windows as my primary system.  but we need to have an installation of ubuntu for class, and i'd like to have a somewhat lighter system to carry with me and boot into to fix viruses and such
[04:40] <acolytetojippity> thanks parsnip!
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: there is no 'primary system' in a dual boot
[04:41] <SecretFire> when does 12.10 come out
[04:41] <Nautilus>  you dont format a swap or ext2/ext3 partition from windows.
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: you choose which OS to boot at boot time and the selected OS loads
[04:41] <acolytetojippity> i know that.  i was talking about the large storage partition.
[04:41] <Nautilus> if the large partition is NTFS, that might be the problem
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> SecretFire: look at the version number and think :)
[04:42] <SecretFire> yea i know 12th year 10th month
[04:42] <acolytetojippity> i used to have this working on a different portable, and that didn't make a difference.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: so how is one OS primary?
[04:42] <Jellyg00se> BOOB
[04:42] <Jellyg00se> ooer
[04:42] <nvictor> where ?
[04:42] <nvictor> :)
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> SecretFire: there you go then :)
[04:42] <SecretFire> what day though?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> SecretFire: I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:43] <acolytetojippity> primary meaning that's what i use, love, and can fix/tweak
[04:43] <Jellyg00se> Tuesday after the friday which jhappeed like movvember!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: that doesn't make it primary
[04:43] <Nautilus> he used primary in a descriptive sense there
[04:43] <nvictor> lol
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: if you want to play with Ubuntu just bang it in a partition, or you could use virtualbox etc (depending on your system spec)
[04:43] <acolytetojippity> what he said ^^
[04:44] <acolytetojippity> i'm trying to bang it in a partition
[04:44] <acolytetojippity> it's not working
[04:44]  * acolytetojippity sobs
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: no problem, do you have unpartitioned space and how many partitions do you have setup?
 acolytetojippity: I'd probably try again... remove the 2 partitions, recreate a swap partion (specifically choosing swap filesystem), and create your main partition as ext3 ... both as Primary partitions if possible (that can depend on how many total partitions there are)
[04:45] <toyiak> kenpachi7996: I tried what you suggested but nothing happens.  Typing firefox in the terminal window just gives me a prompt.
[04:45] <Nautilus> and make sure ya dont install to the swap partition
[04:45] <acolytetojippity> @naut i'll do that.  unfortunately i will need to leave to do that though, as i'm pulling my internal drive before screwing with the ubuntu stuff
[04:45] <Nautilus> good luck :)
[04:46] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: ...
[04:46] <Nautilus> check all the settings in the Create Partition dialogs... format... make sure it's ON, etc.
[04:46] <acolytetojippity> @parsnip i have 3 partitions.  a very large one that is NTFS at the front of the drive, a 2GB swap partition, and then a 50GB ext3 partition.  i mounted '/' to that ext3 one in the installer
[04:47] <Nautilus> dont mount, install.  Not sure if you're just using the wrong word there or doing something wrong.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: if you remove the swap adn ext3 partition in the liveCD (or even in Windows) you can then run the installer and it will install to the free space
[04:47] <Nautilus> just select the 50G to install to
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: the installer will setup partittions for you and be fine
[04:48] <Nautilus> ActionParsnip: oh cool, as 2 partitions?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: it will alos use Ext4 which is a little faster than Ext3
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Nautilus: yes, swap and / is default
[04:49] <acolytetojippity> in the installer, i click the 50GB partition, and click 'change'.  I select 'ext3', check format, and then there's something about 'mounting' something (/, /root,/boot, etc...)
[04:49] <Nautilus> ohhh, I think that's a more adcanced setting
[04:49] <Nautilus> advanced*
[04:49] <acolytetojippity> :sigh:
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: if you want to do it that way, make a 2.2Gb partition as swap, then the rest as / formatted to Ext4.
[04:50] <acolytetojippity> i honestly prefer 9.04
[04:50] <acolytetojippity> that was so easy to install.
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: Jaunty is super dead, thanks god
[04:50] <acolytetojippity> yeah, but it worked the second time i installed it (technically, it worked the first time, but i accidentally put the ubuntu install in the front of the drive, so windows wouldn't recognize the thing
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: you need to set the mount point of the large partition to '/' so the installer knows the partition to put the files on
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> set mount point!!!!!!!!!
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> THAT"S THE WORDING!!!!
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> god i'm a noob
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: yes, set the large partition to /   the swap space doesn't have a mount point
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> agreed.
[04:52] <Nautilus> sounds like just try again, good luck!
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: some folks like to have a separate /home partition but for your needs the 2 partition way will be fine :)
[04:53] <acolytetojippity> thanks.  sorry for this whole long support thing.  i know how annoying it can be to know what you're talking about and not be helping someone who can't understand
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: we got there and thats what counts :)
[04:53] <acolytetojippity> wait, i frakked that up.
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: you'll understand with time :)
[04:58] <redwarriors25> how will i edit  the permission in folder in ubuntu
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> redwarriors25: look into chown and chmod
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> redwarriors25: you won't be able to change NTFS / FAT file systems, those need setting at mount time
[05:12] <blackhole> my game at wine is lagging?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> blackhole: have you checked the appdb for guides on making it faster>?
[05:15] <tdbear> Ubuntu Server Guide
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> blackhole: also try using Unity2D session, may help if compiz isn't around stinking up the place
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: what about it?
[05:16] <tdbear> new to site and trying to locate it
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: then why didn't you say that?
[05:17] <tdbear> 2 many hours doing home work
[05:17] <nvictor> i want to monitor a directory tree and see processes that modify files, how can i easily do that ?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: so you couldn't type a full and intelligent question?
[05:18] <tdbear> dont be an ass
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> nvictor: tripwire can do that if memory serves
[05:18] <redwarriors25_> how can i edit permission of a file
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: in futire, can you use full questions, it makes life a lot easier
[05:19] <nvictor> redwarriors25, man chmod
[05:19] <redwarriors25_> coming from a fle server centos
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: all sorts of guides for all sorts of server there
[05:19] <tdbear> thx
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: np :)
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: bit of an FYI, I can still type fine and I'm on my 3rd day of 12 hour shifts at work. I bet I am a LOT more tired than you
[05:22] <tdbear> lol sounds like you have nothing better to do than be a dick
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: no I'm happy to help but if people don't say what they need then expect and answer, how do you expect to progress
[05:23] <timfrost> redwarriors25_: do you have an account on the file server, and does the file belong to that account?  If the answer to either s 'no' then you can't change the permissions on the file
[05:24] <blackhole> ActionParsnip, ok i try thanks...
[05:30] <gogo_> Hello! please how to watch live TV on ubuntu?
[05:31] <gogo_> what is the best program for watching television channels?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: buy a tv card or find a website with a stream
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: there is no single best [program, for anything in any OS
[05:32] <gogo_> okay, so what websites you know that provide free TV streaming
[05:32] <gogo_> ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: http://lifehacker.com/5055337/five-best-sites-to-stream-tv
[05:33] <gogo_> thanks ActionParsnip!
[05:37] <Lartza> Fresh Ubuntu install (server), installed sudo, "sudo: must be setuid root"
[05:38] <jpds> Lartza: Nice, no idea what you did there.
[05:38] <Lartza> Seriously nothin, after I installed sudo the only thing I did was ad myself to the sudo group and install vsftpd
[05:38] <Lartza> *nothing
[05:38] <Lartza> also EDITOR=nano visudo but made no changes
[05:39] <jpds> "After I installed sudo" ?
[05:39] <jpds> Comes by default.
[05:39] <Lartza> I think i chomodded it right
[05:39] <Lartza> Did not
[05:39] <Lartza> On the server
[05:39] <Lartza> Probably minimal install
[05:39] <jpds> $ apt-cache rdepends sudo
[05:40] <jpds> ubuntu-minimal
[05:40] <jpds> Right.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Lartza: ubuntu server comes installed with sudo
[05:40] <TheChaser> Does anyone know why my grub file doesnt appear when i type in this command? gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:40] <Lartza> Hmm weird then
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> TheChaser: which desktop are you using?
[05:40] <TheChaser> Does anyone know why my grub file doesnt appear when i type this in gksu gedit /etc/default/grub?
[05:41] <TheChaser> oops sorry didbnt mean to put that twice
[05:41] <Lartza> It should work now chmod sudo to 4755 and sudoers to 0440
[05:41] <TheChaser> ubuntu 12.04
[05:41] <Lartza> I mean it does, but should be no problems ;)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> TheChaser: try:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:42] <TheChaser> alright.. like it appears and i have to type in the password.. but then it goes away.. but im gonna try that
[05:42] <TheChaser> ok.. so that works
[05:42] <Cur10u8> hey ! how can i browse my system files in ubuntu?
[05:42] <TheChaser> but whats the difference like can you explain so i kinda understand?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: use nautilus
[05:42] <Cur10u8> Pls help.
[05:42] <Cur10u8> What is it?
[05:43] <CPF0000> Can anyone helo me with a USB boot problem I am having? When I press enter on Install Ubuntu Server, the machine reboots.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> TheChaser: i'd check the man pages, I'm kinda in and out atm
[05:43] <Abbas5> guys, im trying to setup a standard pptp vpn connection. everything i've entered ok as on the vpn site manual. what is the NT-domain?
[05:43] <CPF0000> I created the image with DD
[05:43] <TheChaser> Alright no worries
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: did you MD5 test teh ISO you transferred
[05:43] <CPF0000> yes
[05:43] <CPF0000> it's fine
[05:43] <CPF0000> I also tried several different images
[05:43] <CPF0000> they all do this
[05:44] <CPF0000> inclusing the netinstall
[05:45] <Cur10u8> how to open nautilus?
[05:45] <jiltdil> I forget db password  oracle, how to recover it?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: press ALT+F2 and run it
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: have you tested the RAM using memtest on the USB stick
[05:48] <Cur10u8> but  it opens a command prompt?
[05:48] <Cur10u8> How can i open nautilus?
[05:48] <Cur10u8> and browse my system files and folders.
[05:48] <timfrost> Abbas5: If the VPN needs to authenticate to a Windows domain, then you should have been advised of that, and put that in the NT-domain field.  Otherwise, leave it empty
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: in the ALT+F2 dialogue, type:  nautilus
[05:48] <Cur10u8> i'm a noob pls help
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: or, in terminal type: nautilus
[05:49] <cdeoge_de> it ok
[05:53] <Cur10u8> what's the best IRC channel on Ubuntu?
[05:53] <awestroke> Cur10u8: ?
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Cur10u8: #ubuntu
[05:54] <awestroke> Cur10u8: you are on freenode, in the channel #ubuntu
[05:54] <Cur10u8> oh sorry i mean IRC client?
[05:56] <Cur10u8> what's the best IRC client on Ubuntu?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !best|Cur10u8:
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: there isn't one, there isn't a best IRC client on any OS
[05:56] <awestroke> Cur10u8: I prefer quassel though
[05:56] <awestroke> ActionParsnip: false. limechat is the best on osx
[05:56] <awestroke> it is sexy
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> awestroke: thats your opinion, nothing more
[05:57] <TheChaser> alright one more question and ill leave ya'll alone.. i wanna set my laptop to have ubuntu 12.04 as the default start up instead of windows 7.. what do i need to change in the grub file? off hand?
[05:58] <awestroke> ActionParsnip: nk opinion is fact opinion
[05:58] <cfhowlett> TheChaser: by default, grub will set ubuntu as the 1st boot
[05:58] <CPF0000> So can any of you suggest why my usb stick would be rebooting?
[05:58] <TheChaser> with out me having the choice of picking?
[05:58] <CPF0000> er
[05:58] <TheChaser> it will just boot ubuntu up?
[05:59] <CPF0000> why my machine is rebooting after I hit "install ubuntu server"?
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: tried a different USB stick
[05:59] <CPF0000> ActionParsnip: Yes I have.
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: and a different USB port?
[06:00] <CPF0000> both the regular and alternate images fail in the same way
[06:00] <CPF0000> reboot at the menu
[06:00] <CPF0000> I am about to try a debian image
[06:00] <CPF0000> just to see if it works
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> TheChaser, If you install ubuntu in a partition not a wubi install from windows its bootloader grub will be the boot and ubuntu is the default
[06:01] <cfhowlett> TheChaser: and if you ARE using wubi, be aware that wubi is a testing platform, NOT a long term installation option.  So sayeth the wubi developers.
[06:02] <CPF0000> When I make an image with unetbootin, it isn't even bootable
[06:02] <CPF0000> err, make a USB
[06:02] <CPF0000> Sorry folks, I'm very flustered
[06:09] <wes332> hello
[06:10] <Calinou> CPF0000: can your computer boot from USB? keep in mind you can't boot from unetbootin USB drives on a mac
[06:10] <Calinou> make sure the ISO is not corrupted (at least, see its size)
[06:10] <wes332> i am looking for a way for my computer to report it's IP to me whenever it gets a connection.  similar to Dydns or so?
[06:10] <wes332> has anybody ever done this?
[06:10] <EdMarx> done what
[06:10] <CPF0000> Calinou I installed Windows Server on it from USB
[06:11] <CPF0000> I am just using the Mac and unetbootin to make the images
[06:11] <CPF0000> er , write the images
[06:11] <wes332> I would say email me it's IP when it has network connection, but not email
[06:11] <wes332> because the place it is going doesn't outgoing port 25 available
[06:12] <Calinou> CPF0000: is this relevant to ubuntu? no. windows server sucks anyway :P
[06:12] <CPF0000> Calinou: It is relevant in that I was able to get windows server to install to that PC via USB
[06:13] <Calinou> so your computer can boot on USB... are you trying to install it on a mac?
[06:13] <CPF0000> Calinou: Which means ubuntu shouls be capable of the same
[06:13] <nsjshw> Hi
[06:13] <EdMarx> Ive had problems installing linux on lion
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> CPF0000, Th.at is a bad cause and effect
[06:13] <Calinou> unetbootin USB drives cannot be booted from a mac, remember (the project's page said so)
[06:13] <wes332> so it would have to i guess try and auto connect via ssh to my known ip, then create a file of that contains it's current IP
[06:13] <Calinou> EdMarx: explain?
[06:14] <nsjshw> Guys little help please
[06:14] <wes332> what do you want
[06:14] <EdMarx> I just had problems it was a while ago. I it wouldn't let me install it simply wouldn't boot into linux not usb not cd
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> nsjshw, Sate you problem in the form of a question. ;)
[06:14] <CPF0000> Calinou: No, I am writing the images to a USB stick with the Mac, and plugging it into a Gateway E-4500D and booting the stick there.
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> state*
[06:14] <somsip> wes332: why don't you use a free dynamic dns service like noip?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:14] <nsjshw> Why does it say in terminal @echooff command not found
[06:15] <nsjshw> When I open a program
[06:15] <wes332> somsip, i was thinking about it.  i would like to have that IP sent to me only though, not a 3rd party though.  maybe noip can do that?
[06:15] <wes332> thank you for the reply btw somsip
[06:15] <nsjshw> Any suggestions
[06:16] <nsjshw> ??
[06:16] <leotr> hi! how do i do the following: autologin to user account and run X server which runs program in .xinitrc
[06:16] <somsip> wes332: noip or dyndns - both do a free limited account IIRC. Maybe you'd just need to use an obscure FQDN
[06:16] <fidel> gnome3 is missing its menubar & windows are missing its window-decoration. am i right that this is a metacity issue ...i remember a --replace cmd. any pointers?
[06:16] <somsip> nsjshw: you have a mis-spelling in a bash file somewhere - should be @echo off
[06:16] <wes332> nsjshw, for the user starting the program, check their bash profile to see if it's entering that
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> fidel, gnome 3 the shell?
[06:17] <nsjshw> I'm typing ./and the name of the progran
[06:17] <nsjshw> M*
[06:17] <fidel> wilee-nilee: yep
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> fidel, It uses mutter.
[06:18] <CPF0000> I am trying the i386 version now
[06:18] <elbayya7elo> Any help
[06:18] <elbayya7elo> ??
[06:18] <somsip> !ask | elbayya7elo
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> fidel, YOu can restart it with alt-f2 r if needed.
[06:18] <elbayya7elo> Ok
[06:19] <wes332> elbayya7elo, we responded to you.  that answer is probably your problem
[06:19] <elbayya7elo> Is the problem with the program
[06:19] <wes332> no
[06:20] <elbayya7elo> Because I followed the tutorial step by step and it didn't work
[06:20] <CPF0000> I'm gonna be pissed if i386 works
[06:21] <fidel> wilee-nilee: yep i know that keycombo - whyever it isnt offering the alt-f2 dialog anymore (talking about a virtual install here)
[06:22] <wes332> in your user's home directory theres a file called .profile and it's messed up
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> fidel, Virtual should run the same, is it the gnome fall back
[06:22] <EdMarx> when you rebooted what happened
[06:22] <wes332> find @echooff and change it to @echo off
[06:22] <elbayya7elo> How
[06:23] <somsip> !who | wes332
[06:23] <fidel> wilee-nilee: anyway - executing gnome-shell --replace doesnt change it
[06:23] <elbayya7elo> Should I reformat the pc??
[06:23] <fidel> wilee-nilee: so i doubt alt+f2 -> r would help ;)
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> fidel, This vbox it does use its own drivers so that may be the problem, but I have run it in vbox with no problems.
[06:24] <EdMarx> wilee-nilee: what is !tab
[06:24] <EdMarx> 	
[06:24] <fidel> wilee-nilee: its vmware in my case
[06:24] <wes332> EdMarx, it triggers a bot to autorespond
[06:24] <fidel> wilee-nilee: and it worked before the last updates ..but anyway ignore it. gonna find some other ways to continue testing
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> fidel, Ah well you might ask them #vmware
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> fidel, This 12.10?
[06:25] <fidel> wilee-nilee: yep -> #ubuntu+1 ?
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> ugh
[06:26] <EdMarx> Ok first day to IRC here. Isn't there an easy way to reply to a user?
[06:26] <fidel> EdMarx: start typing the first letters of the username + TAB-key
[06:26] <fidel> i.e. fid + TAB -> fidel
[06:26] <EdMarx> fidel: ohhhh nice
[06:27] <EdMarx> fidel: thanks
[06:27] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: are you finding solutions?
[06:28] <elbayya7elo> No
[06:28] <Abbas|> god
[06:28] <fidel> EdMarx: additional pointers: do read channel topics - as they often have a reason ;)
[06:28] <Abbas|> its such a pain to setup basic vpn on ubuntu12
[06:28] <fidel> EdMarx: have fun
[06:28] <Abbas|> i setup squid somehow with my n00b win7 skills
[06:28] <Abbas|> but vpn still wont work
[06:29] <wes332> Abbas|, are you using IPsec?
[06:29] <Abbas|> just pptn
[06:29] <Abbas|> the vpn site manual says basic stuff which i follow
[06:29] <Abbas|> username/pass
[06:29] <Abbas|> pptn type, and checking a box in advnaced field
[06:29] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: so you want to install ubuntu on usb, you reboot and it boots into win?
[06:29] <wes332> ok nm ive never used pptn
[06:29] <EdMarx> fidel: thanks
[06:29] <Abbas|> only thing im unsure about is NT DOmain field in vpn window
[06:30] <alusion> Does anyone here have experience with mumble / voip?
[06:30] <Abbas|> allusion i've used mumble
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> Noo
[06:30] <Abbas|> on windows htough
[06:30] <wes332> alusion, what about voip?
[06:30] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: what then
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> Ive installed it normally
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> And it works
[06:30] <alusion> I want to set up a VOIP server that I can use with iphones / android
[06:30] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: oh
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> But when I wanna run a program
[06:30] <alusion> via linux... [?]
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> It gives me lines
[06:31] <elbayya7elo> First one @echooff
[06:31] <elbayya7elo> I dont know what else
[06:31] <Abbas|> wes332
[06:31] <Abbas|> nevm
[06:31] <Abbas|> i was beign an idiot
[06:31] <Abbas|> copying an old pass from email
[06:31] <FloodBot1> Abbas|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <Abbas|> instead of the simpler pass i setup early
[06:31] <Abbas|> lol FloodBot1, sry
[06:32] <elbayya7elo> I folowed the tutorial but it didn't work
[06:32] <wes332> Abbas|, its all good dog lol
[06:32] <wes332> alusion, sure have you ever set up an astrix server?
[06:32] <Abbas|> is there a small app that shows downl/upload speed in taskbar?
[06:32] <Abbas|> like DU meter on win7
[06:32] <elbayya7elo> Clear
[06:33] <wes332> another thing to check out is Trixbox alusion.  that is what i use at my house
[06:33] <juanopsy> hey
[06:33] <wes332> it is like a OS for VOIP stuff
[06:33] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: ok sorry. Allow me to be another person who cannot help then :-(
[06:34] <elbayya7elo> Shit......now I have to go back to windows
[06:34] <wes332> elbayya7elo, it's probably for the best
[06:34] <elbayya7elo> I hate windows
[06:34] <elbayya7elo> I wanna stay on linux
[06:34] <alusion> astrix and Trixbox eh wes332 ?
[06:35] <LorSamPau_w> elbayya7elo, u can use another distribution
[06:36] <juanopsy> help plz, I'm tring to boot from a usb stick tried every usb boot installer AKA lili, yumi, universal usb inst, unetbootin.... and every time comes harder.. from not recognicing the boot file, to remove the hardware.. any insigt??
[06:36] <wes332> alusion, yes it has many different ways for handling various VOIP protocols
[06:36] <wes332> like h323 sip tsip
[06:38] <wes332> juanopsy, make sure you have that n32whatever binary in there and that the bios is set to boot usb
[06:39] <wes332> then make sure grub is pointing to the right places for the kernel and ramdisk
[06:40] <wes332> if you are using ubuntu, make sure the casper directory is also correctly pointed in grub
[06:41] <redwarriors25_> how to mount files
[06:42] <wes332> that question is too vagues
[06:42] <wes332> ugh this channel is a nightmare
[06:42] <wes332> goodbye
[06:43] <juanopsy> wes332, sure chek that.. some said that may be the fat32 not being recognice for the old bios... but when tring to instal the usblive on the flash formated on exfat it gives an error on the syslinux instalation.. sais won't be bootable...
[06:43] <malkauns> is there any way to get apps launched from terminal to use the system proxy settings?
[06:45] <Abbas|> so guys, im trying to redirect TVs-intenet via this ubuntu-squid setup. squid is alreayd setup and i can use it as proxy from my android mobile. but when i try to do internet setup on the TV, it shows ok for LAN, but failed for internet.
[06:45] <Abbas|> Squid logs show the ssm1.internet.sony.tv:443 connections
[06:45] <Abbas|> and DIRECT/172.230.198.11 connects but not sure if anything's passing through squid or not
[06:46] <Abbas|> does squid allow the 443 ports etc?
[06:47] <Guest98561> hmmmmmmmm
[06:47] <tenX_> Abbas|: basically yes
[06:47] <somsip> Abbas|: this is quite a specialised question rather than one that directly relates to ubuntu. Maybe you should try to get some help from a suqid resource
[06:47] <Abbas|> somsip, i'll look around :D however im a n00b, its a miracle i somehow setup squid and am able to browse through the log/config files
[06:47] <Abbas|> hehe
[06:48] <apatters> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on a netbook and it is a bit slow, is there  a way for me to install the Lubuntu environment inside this same copy of ubuntu and log into that? I read that this used to be possible (see http://ubuntuhelp.tumblr.com/post/1301847558/is-there-a-way-i-can-switch-from-my-installed-regular describes exactly what i want)
[06:49] <somsip> apatters: you can install lubuntu-desktop and then log into that as an option when you login
[06:49] <LorSamPau_w> apatters, just install and log out
[06:50] <apatters> that's exactly what i want but i don't see lubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu Software Center
[06:50] <somsip> apatters: If you're on 12.04 - http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-install-the-lubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <apatters> thanks, lubuntu-desktop was not showing up in the software center for some reason, but i can just install via command line
[06:52] <somsip> apatters: zactly
[06:58] <helder_raptor> suggest me a good start level python app for reading code
[06:58] <helder_raptor> suggest me a good start level python app for reading code
[06:59] <somsip> helder_raptor: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python
[07:02] <helder_raptor> somsip: u dodnt get me
[07:02] <somsip> helder_raptor: clearly
[07:03] <helder_raptor> i actually want a python app that is open source and i can read its code and the complexity level of the app will be beginner.
[07:03] <helder_raptor> somsip: By the way thanks for the IDE info
[07:04] <somsip> helder_raptor: helder_raptor maybe something here. There are guides and some simple looking packages https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=python&type=Everything&repo=&langOverride=&start_value=1
[07:07] <Eagleman> E: Unable to locate package ldapsearch
[07:07] <helder_raptor> and something for bug fixing
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 1: @ECHO: command not found
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 2: setlocal: command not found
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `=='
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 4: `if (%1)==(0) goto skipme'
[07:08] <somsip> !pastebin | elsa3adiin
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> anyone know waht they mean
[07:09] <roi1979> Hi all, I've come to really like the auto-resize feature (drag windog to screen edge) - but this feature seems not to be supported on unity2d?
[07:09] <elsa3adiin> i went into paste bin they told me theres to much pressuere
[07:09] <somsip> elsa3adiin: paste the whole file in pastebin
[07:09] <elsa3adiin> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :'(
[07:09] <somsip> !topic
[07:09] <elsa3adiin> thats what its telling me
[07:10] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261422/
[07:10] <elsa3adiin> ok here it is
[07:11] <somsip> elsa3adiin: paste the file, not the errors
[07:11] <elsa3adiin> does anyone know aht the problem is?
[07:11] <elsa3adiin> the file that im trying to open?
[07:11] <somsip> elsa3adiin: Setup.bat
[07:11] <elsa3adiin> yeah
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> thats the one
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> do u want it
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> ?
[07:12] <FloodBot1> elsa3adiin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: well, you could paste another file but that probably is a waste of time
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> do u mean u want the file?
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> or not
[07:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: pastebim it. Or you can find someone else to help you
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> i did
[07:13] <LorSamPau_w> elsa3adiin, are you using windows *bat file?
[07:13] <elsa3adiin> i dont think so
[07:15] <LorSamPau_w> bat - is a windows batch file
[07:16] <elsa3adiin> seriously
[07:17] <elsa3adiin> that means ive downloaded the wrong version
[07:24] <mao> PCIe device does not support S.M.A.R.T command, right ?
[07:26] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261443/
[07:26] <elsa3adiin> how can i include it into my path?
[07:26] <elsa3adiin> i already have it
[07:27] <somsip> elsa3adiin: Is this adndroid debugger?
[07:27] <elsa3adiin> yeah
[07:28] <elsa3adiin> any help?
[07:28] <somsip> elsa3adiin: Add something like this to your .bash_aliases, but you may need to change the usr/local part "PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools"
[07:28] <somsip> elsa3adiin: of wait a minute will you - I was typing
[07:29] <elsa3adiin> lol what did i type/
[07:29] <somsip> elsa3adiin: you also need to add other settings like these http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261445/
[07:29] <elsa3adiin> ok thank you
[07:29] <somsip> elsa3adiin: you show a lack of patience when you repeatedly ask for help when I am trying to answer your question. chill
[07:36] <leotr> hi! are there success stories of using ubuntu as kiosk os?
[07:37] <Martell> Hello, how to make the unnallocated space available to be used, my ubuntu is 200gb and i have unnalocated space 230gb , i want to use that space to install another os
[07:37] <andres_> hello! I want to grant permissions to read/write to a user to ONLY A SUBTREE of an externally mounted NTFS drive, mounted in /mnt/Iomega
[07:37] <ardchoille> Martell: I thought we resolved that
[07:37] <andres_> Martell if it is unallocated you can already use it
[07:37] <Martell> ardchoille: i forgot that
[07:37] <andres_> just install the other OS in the unallocated space
[07:38] <somsip> Martell: use something like gparted to create a new partition...but I see other have sorted you already
[07:38] <andres_> with the new OS installation CD
[07:38] <ardchoille> Martell: use the ubuntu installer to install to that unallocated space, simple
[07:38] <jpds> leotr: Are you looking at deploying your own?
[07:38] <andres_> Can anyone help me with setting permissions to a subtree of a NTFS external drive?
[07:38] <andres_> is that even possible?
[07:38] <Martell> i want to install windows after ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[07:38] <Martell> but it doesnt help much
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Martell: you'll need to restore grub to get ubuntu booted
[07:39] <Martell> i have grub1.99 , is it grub2 ?
[07:39] <ardchoille> Martell: if you install Windows after ubuntu Windows will wipe the entire HDD and install itself, forcing you to reinstall ubuntu anyway
[07:39] <andres_> ardchoille that's not accurate
[07:39] <Martell> ardchoille : really? but the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot said you can
[07:39] <andres_> nope not true
[07:39] <cfhowlett> ardchoille: nope.
[07:39] <andres_> it will install in its own partition
[07:39] <ardchoille> ok, I stand corrected
[07:40] <andres_> but you will have to reinstall grub
[07:40] <andres_> because windows will change the MBR
[07:40] <ardchoille> Forgive me, I haven't used Windows in 10 years, didn't think it would change much
[07:40] <andres_> the master boot record
[07:40] <Martell> how do i reinstall grub after i install Windows on it
[07:40] <andres_> with the ubuntu installation cd
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !grub|Martell:
[07:40] <andres_> search in internet grub-install
[07:40] <andres_> or reinstalling grub
[07:40] <andres_> or something like that
[07:41] <ardchoille> I love this channel :) Always teaching me new things :)
[07:41] <andres_> notice how I said: search internet
[07:41] <andres_> not google something
[07:41] <andres_> there indeed exist web search engines other than google
[07:41] <andres_> ^_^
[07:41] <andres_> like duckduckgo
[07:41] <andres_> :)
[07:41] <FloodBot1> andres_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <Martell> with ubuntu installation cd, i can get to the ubuntu partition?
[07:41] <Martell> so i can reinstall the grub
[07:42] <andres_> whoops ^_^ sorry... long time since I used IRC :P
[07:42] <cfhowlett> Martell: yes
[07:42] <andres_> Martell you dont need to install grub in the ubuntu partition
[07:42] <Martell> ah ok, i thought ubuntu installation cd only use its own space
[07:42] <Martell> eh?
[07:42] <andres_> you install it in the Master boot recrord of the disk
[07:42] <andres_> for example
[07:42] <ardchoille> Martell: Sorry about that, it appears that I'm working off old info. Glad you found others to correct what I told you. Good luck
[07:43] <Martell> ardchoille: no hard feeling buddy, i love you still thanks
[07:43] <ardchoille> :)
[07:43] <andres_> if you have /dev/sdb  which is a disk... you have ubuntu in /dev/sdb1 and windows in /dev/sdb2 and something else on /dev/sdb3 (for example a swap partition)
[07:43] <andres_> when you reinstall windows it will install its loader in /dev/sdb
[07:43] <andres_> not 1 or 2 or anything... it is global to a disk
[07:44] <ardchoille> sdb is the disk, whereas sdb1 and sdb2 are partitions on that disk
[07:44] <andres_> and when you install the grub to /dev/sdb   (no numbers) you replace this loader. Now the only thing left is to tell the motherboard to boot from that disk
[07:44] <Martell> you can  only make 4 partition right, coz i can't create new partition from the unnallocated space
[07:44] <Martell> i have maxium 4 partition
[07:44] <Martell> maximum
[07:45] <andres_> the MoBo will look only in the MBR, where the loader (in this case GRUB) is located. Grub allows you to boot either from /sdb1 /sdb2... etc whereas the windows loader only allows you to boot his own partition
[07:45] <cfhowlett> Martell: you can make 4 PRIMARY parts.  You can make unlimited(?) logical parts.
[07:45] <andres_> you can make an extended partition
[07:45] <Martell> hold on let me online from my desktop
[07:45] <Martell> a sec
[07:46] <ardchoille> andres_: I seem to remember something called a logical partition. is that the same as extended?
[07:47] <andres_> I think an extended partition can hold any number of sub-logical partitions
[07:47] <andres_> extended is the container of logical partitions
[07:47] <ardchoille> ah
[07:47] <andres_> but I'm not sure... it's almost the same concept tho
[07:47] <ardchoille> can he just boot into the live cd and use gparted from there to take care of things?
[07:48] <andres_> sure
[07:48] <ardchoille> gotta love that live cd
[07:48] <andres_> gparted or kpartitionmanager handles ntfs just fine
[07:48] <ardchoille> kk
[07:48] <andres_> but its not needed tho
[07:48] <andres_> if he wants to install windows he can boot the CD and install it to the unallocated space
[07:48] <andres_> the windows installer also can make NTFS partitions in the unallocated space
[07:48] <ardchoille> Martell: at any rate, be sure to backup your files just in case
[07:49] <andres_> he just has to be careful not to erase the ubuntu partition
[07:49] <andres_> yeah ardchoille thats a nice piece of advice ;)
[07:49] <Yusuke> Hey buddies, heres the screenshot of gparted http://i.imgur.com/iJ51G.png
[07:49] <ardchoille> andres_: that is what he did to get him where he is, accidental erasure of Window
[07:49] <Yusuke> aight
[07:49] <Yusuke> :(
[07:50] <andres_> oh I see :S
[07:50] <ardchoille> andres_ Martell see the sda3? I believe that is where the Windows installer lives
[07:50] <ardchoille> he needs to be sure ubuntu doesn't overwrite sda3
[07:51] <Yusuke> yeah this desktop have its recovery partition but i can't get into it
[07:51] <andres_> Yusuke, recovery partitions usually are worthless
[07:51] <ardchoille> Yusuke: you should be able to press f3 or somet such key during boot to access that windows install env
[07:51] <andres_> but do you have a Windows CD?
[07:51] <andres_> If you don't you could consider completely switching to GNU/Linux
[07:52] <ardchoille> andres_: I don't think so, they shipped Windows installer in that sda3 partition
[07:52] <ardchoille> same thing with my netbook
[07:52] <Yusuke> well i bought this desktop preinstalled with windows 7, so i dont have the installation disc, but dont worry, i know *alternative*
[07:52] <andres_> well, then he should get support from his manufacturer
[07:52] <ardchoille> Yusuke: indeed, this is a great time to move to Ubuntu :)
[07:53] <andres_> well... if we are talking about illegal copies of windows... it doesn't bother me but you will have problems
[07:53] <ardchoille> I did that years ago and never looked back :)
[07:53] <Yusuke> but im not the one who use this desktop, my mom needs Office 2010 and Illustrator, so dualboot is the best option :(
[07:53] <ardchoille> ah, good point
[07:53] <andres_> Openoffice + inkscape ? =)
[07:53] <Yusuke> mom
[07:53] <Yusuke> what can you expect
[07:53] <elsa3adiin> where can i find this file?
[07:53] <andres_> my dad hardly can push the button to open the pc
[07:53] <elsa3adiin> .bash_aliases
[07:54] <andres_> and I managed to get him using kubuntu + ktorrent + openoffice etc
[07:54] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: it doesn't exist, you can put your aliases in .bashrc
[07:54] <somsip> elsa3adiin: home directory. /home/elsa3adiin or whatever.
[07:54] <andres_> it's not that hard... you just have to teach 'em
[07:54] <Yusuke> lol, btw lets get started, help me make partition on this unnallocated space :(
[07:54] <Yusuke> i use utorrent server
[07:54] <andres_> with gparted?
[07:54] <andres_> just click on it and say new partition :P
[07:54] <Yusuke> anything that work
[07:55] <andres_> and choose extended
[07:55] <Yusuke> you dont see the screenshot?
[07:55] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: open .bashrc and you'll see that there are some aliases there already
[07:55] <Yusuke> http://i.imgur.com/iJ51G.png
[07:55] <andres_> yup
[07:55] <andres_> ah ok
[07:55] <andres_> you need to remove a partition
[07:55] <andres_> in order to create the extended partition
[07:55] <Yusuke> so i remove this unnallocated space
[07:55] <ardchoille> his sda1 isn't being used, it looks like, so he may be able to remiove that one
[07:56] <andres_> nope, unallocated partition is not a partition
[07:56] <hex20dec> What do I have to press to boot into recovery on 12.04?
[07:56] <hex20dec> I keep pressing left shift and I see the word GRUB on the left most top for like a second and it disappears.
[07:56] <ardchoille> andres_: look at his sda1
[07:56] <andres_> Yusuke: I would remove either sda1 or sda3
[07:56] <andres_> maybe sda1
[07:56] <andres_> try that...
[07:56] <Yusuke> hex20dec, i thought 2nd option is a recovery mode in grub
[07:56] <elsa3adiin> i did what you tell me still same error
[07:57] <Yusuke> hold on
[07:57] <hex20dec> Yusuke: I can't even get to the list.
[07:57] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: what error are you getting
[07:57] <andres_> gotta go AFK for some minutes, BRB
[07:57] <somsip> elsa3adiin: after creating the alias you need to run it with ". .bash_aliases"
[07:58] <elsa3adiin> wait a sec i psted a couple of pathes
[07:58] <elsa3adiin> in .bash........
[07:58] <elsa3adiin> and saved it
[07:59] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: now you need to run: source ~/.bashrc
[07:59] <ardchoille> or relaunch the terminal
[07:59] <elsa3adiin> ok
[07:59] <Yusuke> ok i removed this sda1, now i want to make new partition, what filesystem should i use
[08:00] <ardchoille> Yusuke: he's AFK for a few
[08:00] <hex20dec> What do I have to press to boot into recovery on 12.04?
[08:00] <andres_> Yusuke: NTFS
[08:01] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261468/ this is what i added to .bashrc
[08:01] <Yusuke> ok what other options should i edit
[08:02] <andres_> I think no other options
[08:02] <andres_> Well... wait a sec
[08:02] <andres_> If you wish to use other partitions inside windows
[08:02] <andres_> you should make an extended partition instead of NTFS
[08:02] <elsa3adiin> and still same error
[08:02] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: that isn't going to work because your path keeps changing before it's set
[08:02] <andres_> so you can make any number of NTFS partitions inside
[08:02] <igcek> hello... is there any problem if i take reading rights from fstab from normal users...
[08:02] <elsa3adiin> then waht should i do
[08:02] <elsa3adiin> ?
[08:03] <Womkes> Does anybody have any suggestion for a out-of-the-box Linux solution to monitor network traffic in a small-sized office (around 25 people)
[08:03] <elsa3adiin> what*
[08:03] <Womkes> We want to have some insight in bandwidth usage
[08:04] <Yusuke> andres_, aight so i clicked add, hold on lemme reboot, hope everything is fine
[08:04] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin:  export PATH=${PATH}:/home/Anonymous/android-sdk-linux:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools
[08:04] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: your path variables need to be all one line
[08:04] <andres_> Yusuke: ok
[08:04] <elsa3adiin> ok
[08:04] <andres_> <3 IRC ... long time since I was here ^_^
[08:05] <elsa3adiin> still
[08:06] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: when I did android development I had the sdk and tools all in one place
[08:06] <elsa3adiin> i have it in platform tools
[08:06] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: in a terminal run: echo $PATH
[08:06] <ardchoille> and see what it returns
[08:07] <hex20dec> What do I have to press to boot into recovery on 12.04???
[08:07] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261474/
[08:07] <elsa3adiin> this is it
[08:07] <elsa3adiin> ^
[08:07] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: and what is the error you're getting?
[08:08] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261476/
[08:08] <elsa3adiin> ^
[08:09] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: did you install the adb plugin in eclipse?
[08:09] <elsa3adiin> i dont think so
[08:09] <ardchoille> are you using eclipse to develop?
[08:10] <elsa3adiin> but what does it got to do with eclipse
[08:10] <elsa3adiin> ?
[08:10] <ardchoille> are you using eclipse?
[08:11] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: ^^
[08:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: one path points to home/Anonymous and one points to usr/local
[08:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: :/home/Anonymous/android-sdk-linux:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools
[08:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: make them both point to the correct path, use 'source .bash_aliases' again, and try again
[08:12] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: good tutorials for setting this up are here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[08:13] <ardchoille> somsip: he's also going to need the adb plugin or the sdk is going to be moot if he's using eclipse
[08:13] <elsa3adiin> i installed eclipse
[08:13] <somsip> ardchoille: that's one for later.
[08:13] <elsa3adiin> but not using it
[08:13] <somsip> ardchoille: so he's not using it. Not an issue. His choice
[08:13] <elsa3adiin> dude ive read all of em
[08:14] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[08:14] <elsa3adiin> but beacuse im new to linux
[08:14] <somsip> elsa3adiin: just read my fix 8-9 lines up
[08:14] <elsa3adiin> i used to do everything on windows
[08:14] <elsa3adiin> where
[08:14] <somsip> elsa3adiin: you need me to point?
[08:14] <elsa3adiin> ohh
[08:14] <elsa3adiin> nvm
[08:15] <elsa3adiin> but i dont need eclipse
[08:15] <somsip> elsa3adiin: oh dear....try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261490/
[08:16] <elsa3adiin> ok
[08:16] <somsip> elsa3adiin: it's what I told you to do about an hour ago
[08:16] <elsa3adiin> really?
[08:17] <somsip> elsa3adiin: 14:29 < somsip> elsa3adiin: you also need to add other settings like these http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261445/
[08:18] <Yusuke> hey
[08:18] <Yusuke> andres_,  http://i.imgur.com/J19oN.png
[08:19] <elsa3adiin> wtf is wrong with it
[08:19] <elsa3adiin> why isnt it working
[08:20] <Yusuke> think extended is not working, have to set filesystem for the partition
[08:22] <elsa3adiin> why isnt it working
[08:22] <elsa3adiin> im sick of this shit
[08:23] <cfhowlett> elsa3adiin: take a break.  Computing while angry doesn't yield optimal results or easy solutions...
[08:24] <jalexandru> I want to install vmware vsphere 5.1 cli, when I try to run vmware-install.pl I get an error msg: command not found but the file is there (I see the file with ls and also by mc) what can I do?
[08:24] <somsip> jalexandru: ./vmware-install.pl perhaps?
[08:25] <jalexandru> somsip: that was it .... Thanks a lot ...
[08:25] <somsip> jalexandru: np
[08:26] <Eagleman> How do i get the command id to work with ldap?
[08:27] <Elia> hi there
[08:31] <Abbas|> guys, is there no good way to forward port 443 via squid proxy?
[08:31] <Abbas|> someone tells me its application layer forwarding and wont work
[08:34] <elsa3adiin> so any fucken solutions?
[08:35] <elsa3adiin> this problem is really pisssing me off
[08:35] <martsvz2> Hi all, i've got a grub2 (and obviously ubuntu) related problem. I got a dmraid array, UEFI bios and Win8 dualboot with Ubuntu 12.04.  I managed to (default) boot to the grub2 efi bootmgr and chainloaded Win8 using by adding a menuentry in '/etc/grub.d/40_custom'. Unfortunately i'm now unable to hibernate in Win8, i'm guessing grub2 doesn't properly send the right info when chainloading the win8 bootmgr. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:35] <fidel> elsa3adiin: just a guess - it might make sense to reduce the ranting and adding some more informative bits -> otherwise it might be hard for ppl joining this chan even to offer help to you
[08:36] <elsa3adiin> they are helping me but the problem its NOT WORKING
[08:37] <cfhowlett> elsa3adiin: remember when I suggested you take a break?  This is why...
[08:37] <elsa3adiin> NO USE DUDE
[08:37] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: sometimes when you take a break and clear your mind you come back to the problem with a new outlook and it helps
[08:38] <elsa3adiin> i wanna solve this damn problem they told me the right way so i did exactly what they said
[08:38] <elsa3adiin> and still nothing
[08:38] <elsa3adiin> i just feel like grabbing my pc and smash it into the wall
[08:39] <fidel> elsa3adiin: you still havent mentioned or redescribed your current issue ...but ok - seems like you want to RANT and not solve
[08:40] <elsa3adiin> im having this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261511/
[08:40] <kop> fidel, somtimes the rant is the important first step
[08:40] <elsa3adiin> and its not getting solved
[08:40] <fidel> kop: but not in a support channel ;)
[08:40] <andres_> Yusuke
[08:40] <andres_> extended is working
[08:40] <fidel> kop: or at least not if the base is missing ;)
[08:40] <kop> support can come in many ways , listening is one of them
[08:41] <andres_> Yusuke: you have now an extended partition that can hold any number of NTFS partitions inside
[08:41] <elsa3adiin> any ideas?
[08:41] <EweR> Hello
[08:41] <fidel> !details | elsa3adiin
[08:42] <elsa3adiin> latest version 12.04
[08:42] <fidel> elsa3adiin: adb in general should work as far as i know - it did the last time i needed it on linux. could you feed us with some more infos?
[08:42] <kop> adb is unfamilliar , what does it belong to ?
[08:42] <fidel> kop: android
[08:42] <elsa3adiin> when i type ./Script.sh
[08:42] <elsa3adiin> it tells me that
[08:42] <fidel> kop: its part of the developer tools iirc
[08:42] <EweR> How to disable root on 12.04.. So that I used su sudo instead? On google I found only how to enable root, but not how to disable
[08:43] <kop> Ahhh  I still own a rotary phon that isn't very portable
[08:43] <fidel> used to move files from & to your device and tons of other core-functions
[08:43] <Martell> andres_, really amigo? so extended partition cannot be mounted?
[08:43] <elsa3adiin> i put the path in .bashrc
[08:43] <elsa3adiin> and as if i didnt do anything
[08:43] <fidel> elsa3adiin: what is the output of $PATH
[08:43] <andres_> Martell: yeah, an extended partition is not a mountable partition: doesn't hold any data
[08:43] <andres_> it is just for containing other partitions
[08:43] <fidel> elsa3adiin: and have you followed the install instructions of the dev-tools?
[08:44] <elsa3adiin> export PATH=${PATH}:/home/James/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/adb
[08:44] <elsa3adiin> i put that in .bashrc
[08:44] <andres_> However the need of extended partitions will be overcome with the new booting systems in development: UEFI
[08:44] <kangancur> :D
[08:45] <llutz> elsa3adiin: wrong, path holds dirs only, so: export PATH=$PATH:/home/James/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/
[08:45] <fidel> ;)
[08:45] <fidel> kop: and thats why ranting is not a part of support. starting with issue-details is ;)
[08:46] <Martell> andres_ , ok amigo lemme burning this winxp on usb first
[08:46] <schmo7000> hey guys.
[08:47] <notze> when will be folsom in th repository?
[08:47] <andres_> Martell: didn't know Windows XP could be burned to usb drives
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> still
[08:47] <andres_> at least officially ...
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> didnt work
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> i deleted the one i typed
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> adn put the one u gave me
[08:47] <llutz> elsa3adiin: "echo $PATH"
[08:47] <somsip> unignore elsa3adiin
[08:48] <schmo7000> lol
[08:48] <geirha> elsa3adiin: .bashrc is the wrong place to set PATH. You should set it in .profile instead. Though note that that file is used when you log in, so you need to relog to see the difference
[08:48] <Martell> andres_, yeah, you can with WinToFlash tool
[08:48] <kangancur> pada ngemeng apa kiye????
[08:48] <schmo7000> Anybody know anything about how Nautilus thumbnails?
[08:48] <fidel> kangancur: what is your native language?
[08:48] <andres_> is that officially supported by Microsoft? I'm just curious
[08:48] <Martell> kangancur, speak english not jowo
[08:48] <Martell> andres_, idk amigo
[08:48] <andres_> ;)
[08:48] <kangancur> hahahahaha
[08:48] <kangancur> ok
[08:49] <llutz> geirha: isn't ubuntu sourcing .bashrc in .profile by default?
[08:49] <geirha> llutz: yes, for interactive login shells
[08:49] <schmo7000> I've figured out how the bit about md5, ~/thumbnails, but I can't figure out the thumbs of /media/ the uri is apparently not file:///media/Metallica/Album Art.png
[08:49] <elsa3adiin> still
[08:50] <geirha> llutz: When you log in graphically, .bashrc won't be processed since .profile is A) not sourced by bash, and B) the shell that sources .profile is not interactive
[08:50] <schmo7000> so I don't know what path it's using for md5. It's something to do with how it accesses media mounts I guess.
[08:50] <elsa3adiin> where do i put it in profile or bashrc
[08:50] <geirha> elsa3adiin: .profile
[08:51] <elsa3adiin> ok
[08:51] <elsa3adiin> i put it
[08:51] <elsa3adiin> still no use
[08:51] <llutz> geirha: ok
[08:51] <schmo7000> oh.
[08:51] <geirha> elsa3adiin: And as I noted earlier, after changing .profile, you need to log in again to see the effect
[08:52] <elsa3adiin> shit
[08:52] <IdleOne> elsa3adiin: Please stop with the cursing
[08:53] <schmo7000> oh.
[08:53] <schmo7000> I figured it out.
[08:53] <schmo7000> It puts %20 in the spaces in the pathname.
[08:53] <geirha> elsa3adiin: Then afterwards, open a terminal and see what   type -a adb   outputs
[08:54] <schmo7000> So, like, if your CD is /media/Metallica is cool/Metallicachick.png it will md5 file:///media/Metallica%20is%20cool/Metallicachick.png and store the hash of this path in ~/.thumbnails/normal
[08:54] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated.  I know this isn't true because windows is still it's correct partition size.  But what do I do to get gparted to see the rest of my hard drive?
[08:55] <schmo7000> I have a feeling nobody else will ever have this question.
[08:56] <schmo7000> I think it runs it through an escaping function call.
[08:57] <schmo7000> It would be helpful to know which one it is.
[08:57] <schmo7000> Probably something like thumbnail(md5(escape_uri(my_uri)))
[08:58] <geirha> schmo7000: I'm not sure what nautilus thumbnails is, but typically, for a launcher, %u will result in a url (which gui applications typically groks), and %f will result in a filename (that command-line tools can grok)
[08:58] <schmo7000> geirha, what accepts this %u parameter?
[08:59] <schmo7000> Oh. printf?
[08:59] <geirha> schmo7000: No, launchers (.desktop-files)
[09:00] <geirha> schmo7000: I don't know if that's used for your case though
[09:02] <geirha> schmo7000: At any rate, the best solution is to find a way to send your command a filename instead of an url in the first place. Converting an url back into a filename is very cumbersome
[09:02] <redwarriors25> how to fix grub
[09:02] <redwarriors25> ubuntu 8.04
[09:02] <phaidros> darn, between 2 and 4 weeks ago my network manager stopped working with wwan. only log related error I found: failed to enable/disable modem: (32) Failed to find a usable modem character set
[09:03] <phaidros> since it was working before, even with the actual 12.04 I wonder what could have happened and how to fix it ..
[09:03] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated.  I know this isn't true because windows is still it's correct partition size.  But what do I do to get gparted to see the rest of my hard drive?
[09:03] <schmo7000> hmm.
[09:03] <phaidros> mouse: what kind of partition table? gpt?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> mouse: gparted cannot handle gpt.
[09:04] <mouse> what's gpt?
[09:04] <kangancur_> hhh
[09:05] <cfhowlett> mouse: a type of partitioning scheme.  Your hdd properties should show MBR not GPT ...
[09:05] <garymc> Hi guys I know this aint the correct room but I have an LTSP server setup using Ubuntu. I changed the router for internet because the old one failed. Everything is working fine but my FAT clients dont get internet access after booting up
[09:05] <phaidros> mouse: efi compliant partition table .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[09:06] <schmo7000> geirha, it seems that when you create a shortcut using nautilus it stores a uri.
[09:06] <garymc> is it the IP route?
[09:06] <phaidros> anyone an idea with modem-manger? stopped working .. :/
[09:06] <phaidros> where does nm store the PIN of the SIM card, btw?
[09:07] <mouse> cfhowlett, phaidros gparted originally setup this partition table and it used to be able to read it before I installed windows xp.  did xp change the partition table?
[09:07] <phaidros> mouse: no clue, sry
[09:08] <cfhowlett> mouse: xp would want an MBR table and could have changed it.
[09:09] <mouse> cfhowlett, but it was already mbr
[09:09] <cfhowlett> mouse: you need to find out what it is now.
[09:09] <mouse> okay if it's not mbr now then how do I get it back to mbr?
[09:09] <aneek> my ubuntu is hanging  so much
[09:09] <mouse> cfhowlett, how do I do that?
[09:10] <aneek> can any one suggest what to do
[09:10] <cfhowlett> mouse: wait 1
[09:10] <RealOpty> ello, so any suggestions on howto: mount my ext4 partition  automatically without using fstab?
[09:10] <phaidros> aneek: I can't see. anyone an idea?
[09:10] <aneek> phaidros then why we are here
[09:11] <Martell> aneek, maybe you can tell when its hanging, when you login or, when you open firefox maybe, or etc.
[09:11] <phaidros> aneek: listen to Martell ;)
[09:11] <aneek> when i m loggin
[09:11] <phaidros> aneek: please use proper English.
[09:12] <cfhowlett> mouse: you should have a disk utility tool.  Highlight your HDD and display properties.
[09:12] <Martell> check your startup programs, uncheck those that are not necessary
[09:12] <aneek> when i am login on my account entire desktop is hanging
[09:12] <aneek> and all icons applications working slow
[09:12] <aneek> and responding late
[09:12] <redwarriors25> hyow can i fix the 8.04 ubuntu
[09:13] <phaidros> aneek: are you arunning "Ubuntu" or "Ubuntu 2d" desktop?
[09:13] <martsvz2> Since i'm using grub (EFI mode) i can't return from hibernate in Win8. Any ideas?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: 8.04 is already end of life.  upgrade.
[09:13] <phax> hi guys, i have a workstation without a monitor and i want to use the monitor of a laptop running Ubuntu for displaying that...how can i go about it..thanks in advance?
[09:13] <kyubutsu> aneek: could be a video driver issue. when was last time you updated your system?
[09:13] <mouse> cfhowlett, do you mean while in xp?
[09:13] <redwarriors25> but theres a file there
[09:13] <phaidros> aneek: it sounds like your system is missing acceleration (OepnGL)
[09:13] <redwarriors25> and important
[09:14] <cfhowlett> mouse: nope.  you have an ubuntu boot disk?
[09:14] <mouse> cfhowlett, yeah one second while I boot from it again
[09:14] <phaidros> redwarriors25: download grml rescue cd or any live cd, boot your system, get the files of and reinstall/upgrade the system to a recent linux
[09:14] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: you need to save a data file?  boot a CD, copy the file to CDROM ...
[09:14] <iDangerMouse> mouse: Are you related to me?
[09:14] <phaidros> s/boot the system/boot the system with the live cd/
[09:15] <phaidros> cfhowlett: how does one copy files to CDROM ? :)
[09:15] <cfhowlett> phaidros: urrrr, ummm, *google it!*
[09:16] <mouse> iDangerMouse, despite my current situation no
[09:16] <cfhowlett> phaidros: you're right, tho.  sorry.
[09:16] <iDangerMouse> mouse: cheers.
[09:16] <phaidros> cfhowlett: either your burn stuff to a CD-W/RW, not a CD*ROM* (ROM = Read Only Memory) ;)
[09:16] <redwarriors25> i cant open the ubuntu 8.04 desktop
[09:17] <phaidros> redwarriors25: boot a rescue/live CD
[09:17] <gordonjcp> phax: VNC, or something like "export DISPLAY=<ip of laptop>:0" before starting an X app
[09:17] <gordonjcp> phax: using GUI apps over a network never really works well
[09:17] <phaidros> where does netwrok manager store SIM PINs ?
[09:17] <redwarriors25> is there any live cd for 8.04
[09:18] <mouse> cfhowlett, if the partition table is gpt will I lose all my files when it was switched from mbr?
[09:18] <phaidros> redwarriors25: no, take a recent live CD. Just download the actual Ubuntu Desktop CD
[09:18] <phaidros> mouse: yes
[09:18] <t432> My home directory is almost full, how can I check what taking up all that space? I did a manual check and largest file i can find is 8 gig and others are just docs
[09:18] <phax> gordonjcp: if i don't use the network, can i not use the monitor cable and switch the laptop monitor to show the workstation display?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> mouse: i converted my gpt to mbr without loss
[09:19] <phaidros> t432: "df -h" shows the usage of the mount points. in /home/user try "du -sh *"
[09:19] <mouse> cfhowlett, Thank you so much.  If you can get me out of this without losing files I'll love you forever.
[09:19] <cfhowlett> ...
[09:19] <cfhowlett> mouse: trying to find the link ...
[09:20] <martsvz2> Since i'm using the grub bootloader (and ubuntu 12.04) hibernate stopped working on Windows. Any ideas?
[09:20] <kyubutsu> 8.04 is no longer supported. End of life date : May 12, 2011
[09:21] <ThinkT510> kyubutsu: 8.04 is still supported on servers
[09:21] <cfhowlett> mouse: ok, here come links...
[09:21] <cfhowlett>  mouse http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26203-convert-gpt-disk-mbr-disk.html
[09:21] <redwarriors25> how can i fix no gui for 8.04 ubuntu
[09:21] <cfhowlett> http://www.dynamic-disk.com/resource/convert-GPT-disk-to-MBR.html
[09:22] <cfhowlett> mouse http://www.ehow.com/how_12119053_convert-gpt-mbr-linux.html
[09:22] <kyubutsu> ThinkT510: server isn't desktop
[09:22] <ThinkT510> redwarriors25: kyubutsu told you already, desktop support has ended
[09:22] <phaidros> redwarriors25: there is no easy way to fix it and as it is very old software nobody wants to bother with it anymore. further, it is not recommended to use that anymore for desktops
[09:23] <ThinkT510> kyubutsu: sorry, only just joined
[09:23] <phaidros> redwarriors25: as I said before, get your data of the machine and upgrade/reinstall to a supported version (12.04 LTS or 12.10)
[09:23] <phaidros> where does network manager store the PIN of a SIM card
[09:23] <phaidros> ?
[09:23] <ThinkT510> phaidros: 12.10 isn't supported here yet
[09:23] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: suggest you stick with 12.04 and upgrade LTS only.
[09:24] <phaidros> got it: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/$connection
[09:24] <phaidros> ThinkT510: oops. My bad. Sorry.
[09:28] <redwarriors25> the problem is how can i upgrade if theres a files there
[09:32] <ThinkT510> redwarriors25: backup what you need
[09:32] <redwarriors25> how
[09:33] <ThinkT510> !backup | redwarriors25
[09:33] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: usb
[09:34] <webprojectx> what about an encrypted Macintosh HD =D ?
[09:34] <ThinkT510> redwarriors25: i always use a seperate partition to store my files on so whenever i reinstall my files are all seperate from my os
[09:34] <phaidros> redwarriors25: last time: download a live CD, boot it and move your data to a USB stick or USB hdd. afterwards upgrade/reinstall (to) a recent Ubuntu version
[09:34] <phaidros> redwarriors25: you can create a bootable USB stick as well. look for gtk-usb-creator or unetbootin
[09:35] <phaidros> webprojectx: ?
[09:36] <phaidros> where to as for networm-manager/modem-manager problems? I believe #gnome won't be the right place, as we are running unity after all .. :/
[09:36] <mouse> cfhowlett, apt-cache search can't find gdisk
[09:36] <kyubutsu> unless you don't have any significant data you want to save. you're the judge of that. the point is: always make copies of your important files
[09:37] <phaidros> mouse: aptitude search gdisk on 12.04 yields: p   gdisk                                                                              - GPT fdisk text-mode partitioning tool
[09:37] <cfhowlett> mouse: enable "universe" repository
[09:37] <cfhowlett> mouse: apt-cache policy gdisk
[09:37] <cfhowlett> gdisk:
[09:37] <cfhowlett>   Installed: (none)
[09:37] <cfhowlett>   Candidate: 0.8.1-1build1
[09:37] <cfhowlett>   Version table:
[09:37] <cfhowlett>      0.8.1-1build1 0
[09:37] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <redwarriors25> for what use
[09:39] <mouse> cfhowlett, this new 12.04 is confusing me.  I can't find the package manager or software sources at all.
[09:40] <cfhowlett> mouse: update/settings
[09:40] <leotr> am i able to install package on live system?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> mouse: sorry I can't be more exact.  I'm on UbuntuStudio which has xubuntu foundation.  A little bit different ...
[09:41] <leotr> i tried  apt-get but package was not found
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !persistent|
[09:41] <mouse> cfhowlett, Ah there we go.  thank you.
[09:41] <kyubutsu> leotr: the 'live' environment runs from disk. therefore, it is temporary. so, no
[09:42] <kyubutsu> leotr: 'disk' as in 'cd'
[09:44] <kyubutsu> leotr: i take that back. i actually haven't tried such thing. but it stands to reason that even if you could, the changes will not be permanent
[09:44] <brainstoke> does anyone use a bluetooth keyboard here ?
[09:45] <leotr> kyubutsu: ok
[09:45] <mouse> okay it turns out my partition table was already mbr but for some reason gparted still reads it as unallowcated.
[09:45] <sssilver> Hello everyone. I need to control my mouse pointer using keyboard. I have enabled it an it works, however the speed is extremely slow. Is this adjustable, and how? Thanks.
[09:49] <kyubutsu> mouse: either way, mbr and partition type isn't the same thing. ntfs is the common windows partition and gparted can read it just fine. windows xp uses fat32(?) .. there might be a compatibility issue there
[09:50] <kyubutsu> windows xp is pretty old and there is no support for it even from microsoft themselves
[09:50] <mouse> kyubutsu, gparted says "warning: can't have overlapping partitions"
[09:51] <jud> problem..transmission is no longer associated with magnets for some reason?
[09:55] <diverdude> ehhm so i install php5 and it says: After this operation, 17.9 MB of additional disk space will be used. and immedietly after i remove it, and it says: After this operation, 21.5 kB disk space will be freed.  how does that make sense?
[09:55] <overbythere> diverdude: did it just install php5, or php5, apache-php5 etc etc
[09:56] <AdvoWork> in terminal, i'm doing ssh user@ip  is there a way I can name it, ie ssh user@whatever 'test server'  as when ive got multiple terminals open, its confusing as hell
[09:56] <kyubutsu> diverdude: it's just simple math. carry on..
[09:56] <fidel> diverdude: wild guess: you havent fully removed it - you just used remove right?
[09:56] <diverdude> overbythere: hmm ok by doing apt-get autoremove it removed the rest i think
[09:56] <somsip> AdvoWork: personally, I set all of my servers with $PS1 that shows the server name
[09:57] <cfhowlett> diverdude: apt-get purge ?
[09:57] <diverdude> yeah
[09:57] <aneek> i shared a folder from my ubuntu desktop ,when i try to access this from client machine through alt+f2 in run type smb://172.18.49.51
[09:57] <aneek> it is not showing anything
[09:58] <jud> associating transmission to magnets in firefox anyone?
[10:13] <dandre> Hello
[10:14] <cfhowlett> dandre: greetings
[10:14] <dandre> Since My last update, I can't launch  thunderbird, I get this error:
[10:14] <dandre> (thunderbird:4622): GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Trop de fichiers ouverts
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !fr|dandre:
[10:15] <dandre> ok:
[10:15] <dandre> (2012-10-05 12:14:49) dandre: (thunderbird:4622): GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many files opened
[10:16] <aum__> i want to setup snmpd and snmp agent i tried to follow several howto but failed to install it on my 12.04
[10:17] <jud> once upon a time I'd click the magnet torrent link and transmission would automatically download it. Now when I click a magnet, it tells me it can't do it because it's not associated with any program. I added some new lines in about:config to no avail.
[10:18] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated and gives the error "can't have overlapping partitions".  What do I do to fix this?
[10:19] <mithran> hello how can i see all the previous commands typed in the terminal without using the arrow key
[10:20] <Laish> i am can't login as my user although i can with guest
[10:20] <llutz> mithran:  type "history"
[10:21] <Laish> using 12.04 with default settings
[10:21] <mithran> llutz: just history
[10:23] <jud> 9.1 karmic transmission-magnet association, firefox?
[10:23] <ThinkT510> jud: karmic is no longer supported
[10:24] <jud> ThinkT510: It use to work automatically..?
[10:29] <Anonymous> Hola
[10:29] <Guest91088> noooooo
[10:29] <Guest91088> porque
[10:29] <Guest91088> porqueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:30] <Guest91088> que pasa primoooooooo
[10:30] <Guest91088> ,9
[10:30] <ejv> i was screaming that at 12.04.0 last weekend
[10:30] <Guest91088> Q DICES'
[10:30] <Guest91088> E.E
[10:30] <ejv> ubuntu got me real good, *real* good, with that md/raid kernel bug.
[10:34] <SpindizZzy> hi all
[10:35] <SpindizZzy> I'm having difficulties connecting to a host behind a router using ssh and dynamic DNS
[10:35] <SpindizZzy> i routed the ports, but no succes...
[10:36] <ejv> is the host setup to listen and accept inbound ssh connections?
[10:36] <gordonjcp> SpindizZzy: can you connect to the host locally?
[10:36] <SpindizZzy> ejv: actually, i wake the host remotely using WOL and try to login
[10:37] <SpindizZzy> gordonjcp, yes, everything works fine locally (WOL & SSH)
[10:37] <SpindizZzy> host runs ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:37] <sssilver> anyone knows how to change the speed of mouse pointer when controlled by the keypad?
[10:38] <SpindizZzy> i have a dynamic dns set up, using the free services from afraid.org
[10:38] <SpindizZzy> and that point to my router's external IP
[10:38] <SpindizZzy> pointS
[10:38] <tsimpson> SpindizZzy: did you forward the external port to your internal IP?
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> i did
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> using the same portnumber
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> i flashed my TP-link router and put dd-wrt on
[10:39] <ejv> no fail2ban / iptables wizardry quietly denying you access?
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> very straightforward
[10:39] <SpindizZzy> ejv: nope
[10:40] <ejv> oh well who needs ssh anyways :p
[10:40] <SpindizZzy> ejv: better suggestions ? :)
[10:40] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated and gives the error "can't have overlapping partitions".  What do I do to fix this?
[10:41] <ejv> can you ssh into your router directly, then ssh into your NAT host?
[10:41] <SpindizZzy> well, i'm trying...
[10:41] <SpindizZzy> haven't figured that out yet ...
[10:42] <ejv> good litmus test to prove that dropbear is working on your ddwrt (i think it's dropbear), at least you could narrow it down to bad internal routing
[10:42] <ejv> setup remote access to listen on some absurd high port and test it
[10:42] <SpindizZzy> eeeeuh
[10:43] <SpindizZzy> that sounds like chinese :)
[10:43] <SpindizZzy> i did see a dropbear entry on my router's web GUI ...
[10:43] <sayres> hi guys.I want install VirtualBox in ubuntu 12.4.when install apear this error:http://dpaste.com/810114/    .what can i do?
[10:45] <SpindizZzy> ejv: what address do i need to use to ssh to my host ?
[10:45] <mithran> hai i cant format my mmc memmory card
[10:45] <SpindizZzy> say my router is at blabla.123.com
[10:45] <tsimpson> sayres: remove virtualbox-guest-additions-iso first, then install virtualbox
[10:45] <mithran> while doing format it shows that an error occured
[10:45] <ejv> sayres: also in addition to what tsimpson said, 4.2 is *really* new; fresh off the block; perhaps try 4.1.$VERSION which is more mature
[10:45] <SpindizZzy> do i ssh blabla.123.com ??
[10:46] <SpindizZzy> or do i ssh routername@blabla.123.com ??
[10:46] <SpindizZzy> or do i use the hosts name immediately ?
[10:46] <mithran> and if i am trying to formatt with my mobile phone it showes that the is no permission
[10:46] <ejv> root@your.dyndns.host.name -p PORT
[10:46] <sayres> ejv: mean I cant install 4.2?
[10:46] <ejv> or admin@blah
[10:47] <ejv> i think ddwrt uses 'admin'
[10:47] <SpindizZzy> will test
[10:47] <sayres>  tsimpson:how can remove virtualbox-guest-additions-iso ??I havent virtual box
[10:47] <mithran> I tried with windows it shows that the mmc card is read only
[10:47] <no_gravity> Good Morning! Somehow the quick-search in Thunderbird doesnt work anymore or is not there anymore... is there some new bug?
[10:48] <ejv> sayres: that feeling when people ignore advise
[10:48] <tsimpson> sayres: you already have that package installed, you should "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-guest-additions-iso" first
[10:48] <crazydip> how do i structure debian/rules if to build the package all that is needed is: ./autogen.sh AND make?qq
[10:48] <ejv> sayres: installing 4.2 is possible, first follow tsimpson's instructions :)
[10:49] <tsimpson> crazydip: #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu can help you construct a debian package
[10:49] <crazydip> tsimpson: thanks
[10:49] <sayres> tsimpson:  ejv:ok im trying
[10:50] <skpl> hello, after an update i have no sound, can someone help?
[10:50] <skpl> im using 12.04.1
[10:50] <SpindizZzy> ejv: no route to host
[10:51] <SpindizZzy> ejv: ping router.dns.com works
[10:51] <SpindizZzy> but something@router.dns.com does not
[10:53] <sayres> tsimpson:  ejv:its finaly installed.tnx for helping my friends.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> SpindizZzy  what do you mean by something@router.dns.com ?
[10:54] <ejv> i hope he means ssh admin@his.dyndns
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> MonkeyDust, when i add a hostname
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> indeed
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ah, ssh
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> tried several
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> ssh doesnt work, giving 'no route to host'
[10:54] <SpindizZzy> but pinging works
[10:54] <skpl> hello, after an update i have no sound, can someone help?
[10:54] <ejv> what happens when you ssh to your router (on the port you specified in the ddwrt console) using your ip, not your dns
[10:55] <SpindizZzy> sec
[10:55] <ejv> dns is so broken i wish someone would kill it, sigh
[10:55] <SpindizZzy> ejv: same thing, 'no route to host'
[10:56] <SpindizZzy> weird...
[10:56] <ejv> do you have a public facing ip?
[10:56] <SpindizZzy> and indeed, verrrry broken...
[10:56] <SpindizZzy> yep
[10:57] <ejv> this router sounds like trouble, im all out of ideas, granted it's crack of dawn...
[10:57] <SpindizZzy> yeah, big trouble :)µ
[10:57] <SpindizZzy> -µ
[10:58] <ejv> do you have any other routers that you can test with?
[10:58] <jackmac> help: when ripping a cd with rythmbox, how are you notified that it is finished
[10:59] <SpindizZzy> i do
[10:59] <SpindizZzy> i guess i will have to try ttah...
[10:59] <ejv> i hate to send you down that path, but im fresh out of ideas, perhaps swap another router into place and see if you get any better routing
[10:59] <SpindizZzy> that
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> yep, back to square one
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> :s
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> oh well, at least we're learning along the way...
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> :)
[11:00] <ejv> maybe someone else will chime in ;)
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> hehe
[11:00] <SpindizZzy> thx anyway :)
[11:02] <AdvoWork> hi there, i'm doing: rsync -vruH /mnt/FILES/ . --exclude .recycle --exclude .recycle --exclude "/mnt/FILES/BACKUPS/old_uploads/" --stats  but  even though ive excluded the old_uploads, it still appears to do them. Any ideas please/
[11:03] <skpl> hello, after an update i have no sound, can someone help?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> AdvoWork  and without the quotes?
[11:06] <ztane> ubuntu precise, uptodate system: when i try to log in to unity, the screen goes blank for 2 seconds, then i am returned to the greeter again
[11:06] <pengwu> I am trying to change my passwd but system thinking my new password is too simple, so HOW CAN I DISABLE the checking?
[11:07] <ztane> also how do i get system users to show on unity login box, damnit i cannot even type in a user name
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> ztane  i've had that too, may be a compiz issue, try to log in some other DE -- did you try 2D? -- when you're in the login screen, press ctrl-alt-f1 and install fallback or so
[11:08] <cfhowlett> pengwu: delete your password
[11:08] <ztane> MonkeyDust: 2d woks
[11:09] <ztane> MonkeyDust: *does not work either
[11:09] <ztane> MonkeyDust: i could log in though gdm though
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> ztane  try the ctrl-alt-f1 trick
[11:10] <ztane> why does ubuntu suck so much lately, it seems I cant do anything anymore :(
[11:10] <ztane> "usability" :(
[11:10] <ztane> i think i have to go to gdm anyhow
[11:11] <blackhole_> how to create mozilla shortcut in desktop?
[11:11] <ztane> how do i change to gdm on precise
[11:11] <ThinkT510> ztane: install it
[11:11] <pengwu> I want to disable the passwd complexity checking not delete my password
[11:12] <ztane> ThinkT510: -10 points
[11:12] <ztane> ThinkT510: i have it
[11:12] <ztane> this is what sucks in the ubuntu currently. everyone thinks evveryone is a damned n00b
[11:12] <ztane> been linux user for 15 years
[11:14] <thek__> ztane: the irc climate changed I think. Now ppl show up, ask a question then move on to some other media where they socialize.
[11:15] <ThinkT510> ztane: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:15] <thek__> ztane: makes communication very shallow and harsh. :-/
[11:16] <ztane> true
[11:16] <ztane> what makes me feel sad about ubuntu that i switched to ubuntu on 8.04 because everything seemed to work
[11:16] <ztane> now after 4 years, nothing really works anymore
[11:16] <thek__> "everything" rarely work on "anything" though.
[11:17] <thek__> I guess it wasn't really LTS?
[11:17] <ztane> ThinkT510: thanks :)
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> people complain about the new Redmond OS, too
[11:17] <ThinkT510> ztane: can i get my 10 points back :)
[11:17] <thek__> I've been forced to move on from 10.04LTS to 12.04 LTS. Times change too quickly for me to get stuck on a conservative trail.
[11:18] <ztane> thek__: i have been through all versions and 1204 has been a nightmare :D
[11:18] <thek__> really? Maybe you've been unlucky. I hardly had any issues with 10.04. initially there were some keyboard irritation with stuck keys, but then smooth as a baby bottom.
[11:18] <ztane> I now need to modprobe my wlan driver instead of it working
[11:18] <thek__> I'm also really impressed with 12.04
[11:19] <ztane> right out of box
[11:19] <ztane> like in every other version for 2 years
[11:19] <apg> But, I believe is that everything change very quickly in Ubuntu
[11:19] <thek__> I use Windows XP, 7, OS X Lion, Solaris 11 in my work as well, but I really enjoy Ubuntu 12.04
[11:20] <ztane> before 8.04 I did use gentoo for some years, building everything
[11:20] <thek__> (from a usability perspective that it is.. to limit the scope some)
[11:20] <ztane> 8.04 seemed to wrok quite nicely compared to them
[11:20] <ztane> *it
[11:21] <apg> But I think Unity will get matured as the development process is also still on the way
[11:21] <ztane> but really the experience has been mostly backwards, every update I just need to tinker more to get the same experience as 8.04
[11:21]  * cfhowlett cursed out in private chat: WINNING!
[11:21] <elgumso> hello - looking for some help with resizing a Linux partition without bringing down the OS. Can anyone point me in the right direction please
[11:22] <ztane> elgumso: depends on many things
[11:22] <cfhowlett> 1resize
[11:22] <thek__> apg: i hope so. It shows promise. I love the 'search me' concept. Especially if I could by reasonably sophisticated speech rec to it.
[11:22] <thek__> s/by/buy/
[11:22] <CQ> hello, is ther ea good drawin/note taking app around for use with a tablet? And what's the best UI to use for a tablet?
[11:22] <elgumso> Expanding it. Virtual disk. I've increased it in ESX and need to fill it up but can't shutdown the system
[11:22] <ztane> elgumso: but it depends on how you parititioned your disk
[11:22] <datruth> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 and I am having issues controlling the brightness of my screen it my hotkeys seem to work during boot (grub) and shutdown window but after Kubuntu loads I can no longer control the brightness can someone help with this?
[11:22] <ztane> elgumso: inside the box, do you use lvm or not?
[11:23] <ztane> elgumso: if your partition is in the middle, you are mostly out of luck
[11:23] <apg> Cq, are you running ubuntu on a tablet?
[11:23] <elgumso> it's sda1. sda2 extended sda5 swap (for some reason)
[11:23] <CQ> apg yes... lenovo x61
[11:23] <ztane> elgumso: no luck then :D
[11:23] <ztane> elgumso: should always put lvm inside
[11:24] <thek__> Btw, anyone know of a driver issue with SATA solid-drives which relates to the inability to mount the disk in Virtualbox? This issue is a cloud on a sunny day.
[11:24] <elgumso> damn. Ok I'll read into that for next time. Is lvm done at install?
[11:24] <ztane> elgumso: if you had it as the last partition, you could expand it with fdisk; with lvm you could add separate disks instead of growing an existing one, too
[11:25] <ztane> elgumso: you can actually do it afterwards too, but a bit tinkering
[11:25] <ztane> elgumso: "a bit"
[11:26] <ztane> elgumso: also I suggest for these questions you could go to ubuntu-server ;)
[11:26] <elgumso> ok sweet. thanks very much for your help. Looks like in this case I'll have to rebuild the system then just clone the data.
[11:26] <elgumso> ah ok cool
[11:26] <elgumso> thanks again, much appreciated
[11:26] <datruth> ztane: is lvm required or recommended for Ubuntu install?
[11:26] <ztane> elgumso: hmm acutally if you did not use any swap
[11:27] <datruth> ztane: is there away to check if I currently use lvm?
[11:27] <ztane> datruth: no, it depends if you want to add disk space to existing partitions...
[11:27] <ztane> datruth: most probably you arent
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> datruth  required, no -- recommended... depends on how you use ubuntu
[11:27] <ztane> elgumso: ... if you didnt use any swap, or the extended, you could turn off swap and increase the partition 1,
[11:28] <ztane> elgumso: then add another disk for swap
[11:28] <datruth> ztane: my disk's are pretty much partitioned out into one big drive and I use virtualbox to seperate the space that I need
[11:28] <elgumso> WIN
[11:28] <arian_> HEllo
[11:28] <elgumso> I could totally do that! Nice one man! That'll be perfect
[11:28] <Guest82855> hello
[11:29] <Guest82855> Is here any body?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest82855  it works, you're in
[11:29] <datruth> time to google more for my brightness issue
[11:29] <elgumso> ztane: thanks bud. sorted!
[11:29] <l3d> was wondering what would I have to do if I would like to have a file or folder sync between two ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:30] <Guest82855> adfadfsd نشیسب
[11:30] <Guest82855> hello I have a
[11:30] <Guest82855> hello i made a bash file and i want to sheuld that to update my system by at what can i do ?
[11:31] <datruth> Guest68405: that question makes no sense.
[11:32] <rocket_hamster> I think hes looking for cron
[11:32] <ztane> elgumso: and consider using lvm on any new installations ;)
[11:32] <egoitz> Hi, I'm running 12.04 precise and have some problems with python module
[11:32] <egoitz> http://pastebin.com/rdaCQiZf
[11:32] <egoitz> the XenSMDriver is in file... http://pastebin.com/hEzGATmC
[11:33] <egoitz> how could I manage the utils.py to find the other module?
[11:33] <egoitz> http://pastebin.com/5cP5wtic
[11:33] <egoitz> this is the directory structure
[11:33] <elgumso> ztane: Hehe I think especially in my VM's it's proabably a good idea
[11:33] <ztane> elgumso: well lvm is even better on physical harddisks, can move from one disk to another on the fly effortlessly!
[11:34] <arian__> WHAT CAN I DO TO USE CRON WITH THAT?
[11:34] <datruth> time to reboot and see if this fix works
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> arian__  caps
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !shout|arian__:
[11:34] <datruth> arian__: use cron with what?
[11:34] <arian__> ok I have problem with my system :| sorry
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> egoitz  ask in #python, over 900 people there
[11:35] <ztane> hmmm
[11:35] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:35] <egoitz> I don't have now the pass of my freenode user is there any python channel you're able to ask without registering?
[11:36] <ztane> ok I have system user hudson, and trying to log in to unity with it from GDM, the login window just stops responding after I enter password, nothing happens except the busy cursor for 20 minutes now :/
[11:36] <ztane> any ideas
[11:37] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:37] <Guest37094> sorry , I am using the kde on ubuntu can you say to me where is the cron setting on kde ?? (I saw that before on kde)
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest37094  try crontab -e       (that's e for edit)
[11:38] <Guest37094> MonkeyDust, does cron have any gui to use with that?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> dunno
[11:39] <geirha> Guest37094: there is a gui for gnome (gnome-scheduler or something). Try searching the software center for a kde equivalent
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> there's kcron, i guess
[11:41] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:42] <Guest37094> excuse I founded this , but i don't know what is it name. http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeadmin/kcron/index.html
[11:42] <rabbi1> hi, i am trying to connect reliance 'zte ac 2736' datacard, but unable to connect, tried wvdial as well, but no luck. The 'option' for the device under 'network settings' is disabled. how can solve this ?
[11:43] <Guest37094> as a matter of fact I don't have that on my kde.
[11:43] <geirha> Guest37094: try installing the package named kcron
[11:43] <Guest37094> geirha, installed that . but added nothing to my softwares .
[11:44] <EweR> How to disable root on 12.04.. So that I used su sudo instead? On google I found only how to enable root, but not how to disable
[11:44] <bazhang> EweR, on a normal install? a vpn? or what
[11:44] <EweR> bazhang, vpn
[11:45] <bazhang> normal installs if's not not enabled by default
[11:45] <bazhang> err it's
[11:46] <geirha> !root | EweR
[11:46] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:46] <geirha> EweR: The RootSudo page explains how to disable it again, among other things
[11:46] <EweR> geirha, ok ty
[11:46] <Guest37094> geirha, I installed the kcron but it didn't add software
[11:46] <geirha> Guest37094: I'm not familiar with kde, so I have no idea where it should appear.
[11:47] <Guest37094> geirha, thank you
[11:47] <geirha> Guest37094: You could try  Alt+F2, and type in kcron
[11:49] <bazhang> Guest37094, what about gnome-schedule
[11:49] <bazhang> !info gnome-schedule | Guest37094
[11:49] <rabbi1> hi, i am trying to connect reliance 'zte ac 2736' datacard, but unable to connect, tried wvdial as well, but no luck. The 'option' for the device under 'network settings' is disabled. how can solve this ?
[11:50] <Kingsy> what is wrong with this --> ar -cvf --exclude="var" --exclude="media/import" --exclude="media/catalog/product/cache" backup.tar.gz public_html/ <-- it seems to create a file actually called "--exclude="var"" lol
[11:51] <geirha> Kingsy: because the word after -f is what it takes as filename
[11:51] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[11:51] <Kingsy> geirha: so it should be tar -cv --exclude="var" --exclude="media/import" --exclude="media/catalog/product/cache" -f backup.tar.gz public_html/   ?
[11:52] <geirha> Kingsy: sure, that should do something closer to what you expect ;)
[11:52] <Kingsy> geirha: also the paths in --exclude="" they are all relative to public_html.. is that correct?
[11:53] <geirha> Kingsy: Off hand, I don't remember. I'd have to check man tar
[11:53] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[11:55] <datruth> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 and I am having issues controlling the brightness of my screen it my hotkeys seem to work during boot (grub) and shutdown window but after Kubuntu loads I can no longer control the brightness can someone help with this?
[11:55] <Kingsy> geirha: thanks
[11:55] <arian__> geirha: I restarted my pc but not added any programms
[11:55] <dr_willis> datruth:  as a test. go to the consoles and see if they work.
[11:56] <arian__> I have it now
[11:56] <datruth> dr_willis: the keys work during boot up but after the o/s loads they no longer work.
[11:56] <arian__> yes , thx everbody , thx geirha
[11:56] <blackhole_> elow
[11:56] <datruth> dr_willis: also I've tried passing switches to grub and still that doesn't work.
[11:57] <blackhole_> k
[11:59] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector, can anyone hlelp?
[12:00] <starius> http://vk.com/wall-33241_226238
[12:01] <dr_willis> mikkel:  what video chipset? and how is it connected
[12:01] <mikkel> intel hd graphics 3000
[12:01] <bazhang> starius, why post that here
[12:02] <mikkel> it is connected through VGA
[12:02] <starius> i have not found channel for ubuntu translators
[12:03] <datruth> hrmm ok
[12:05] <theadmin> starius: All Ubuntu translations are mantained through Launchpad.
[12:05] <starius> ok, I'll take this into account
[12:06] <mikkel> i've connected a projector to my laptop and i cannot use the full resolution of the projector. I have intel hd graphics 3000 connected in VGA. can anyone help?
[12:08] <l1ght> oh the lulz.
[12:08] <l1ght> Morning
[12:08] <cfhowlett> l1ght: not in China...
[12:09] <cfhowlett> l1ght: greetings
[12:09] <l1ght> cfhowlett: It's always morning on the interwebz.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> l1ght: ... OK
[12:10] <apg> I have a problem,  when I connect my laptop to a projector via VGA cable, It cannot be set to be twin-view, so that what is shown on my screen also be on the projector. I have set it to be twin-view from nvidia-seetings. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and Nvidia Geforce 540 M.
[12:12] <Jacruth> Ey guys, I'm trying to install  libccid pcscd, but headers are not being send!
[12:12] <bazhang> Jacruth, whats the reason for doing so
[12:13] <Guest87146> Hi Guys, I have some questions about boot locations and was wondering if someone better versed in Linux/Ubuntu could help me out, if so if you could pm me that would be great
[12:14] <bazhang> Guest87146, just ask here
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Guest87146
[12:14] <Jacruth> bazhang, I'm trying to use a identification card and I need libccid and that.
[12:14] <Jacruth> bazhang, is there any way to force download the headers?
[12:14] <Guest87146> ok
[12:15] <l3d> was wondering what would I have to do if I would like to have a file or folder sync between two ubuntu 12.04 ?   update thanks  anyway but i found what i was looking for unison worked just fine thanks to google
[12:16] <Guest87146> I would like to know how I can remotely boot ubuntu from a network drive, as the system I'd like to run ubuntu on does not have a HDD.
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !PXE|Guest87146:
[12:17] <cfhowlett> Guest87146: pxe networking booting is one solution
[12:18] <Guest87146> yes, I can use PXE to install it, but how to I 'run' it remotely, effectly using system A's HDD and system B's CPU,RAM, etc.
[12:18] <dr_willis> you would have to setup nfs shares or other shares..
[12:19] <dr_willis> as for cpu/ram - that would be more where you boot up a 'thin client' that just displays  from the server
[12:19] <dr_willis> thinclient, x-terminal, whats other terms? It used tobe common place ages ago.. not so much these days
[12:22] <Guest87146> the whole reason why im trying to do this is because I have about 50 servers with no HDDs and would like to run Xen XCP on them (you can run it from ubuntu, thats why I am asking here) and would like to network boot them without having to put HDDs in all of them
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !LTSP
[12:23] <dr_willis> basically netbooting a minimal image that has X and  then does xdmcp connection to the server. ;) I belive.. ive not used it in years
[12:24] <rezaev> hello/
[12:24] <rezaev> im from russia\
[12:24] <rezaev> i need help
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !ru|rezaev:
[12:24] <lnxslck> rezaev, need a green card ? lol
[12:25] <CyBz> lol
[12:25] <blackhole> do i have to install antivirus for ubuntu 12.04?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !antivirus|blackhole:
[12:26] <nicko_> hello, I need a suggestion
[12:26] <blackhole> ubottu, ok thanks how about firewall?
[12:26] <dr_willis> blackhole:  if you want to scan windows files for windows viruses.. you can..
[12:27] <dr_willis> !firewall
[12:27] <nicko_> is it better to download the beta 2 rather than reinstalling the beta 1 that I have and just do a upgrade?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|nicko_:
[12:27] <dr_willis> nicko_:  id say redownload the latest.. because you will just download ALL theupdates anyway. and see #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <blackhole> thanks u all
[12:29] <test1> why is `apt-get changelog ${packagename}` not called by apt-cache, since that is the apt command to extract information and apt-get is to change/remove/install packages
[12:31] <jrib> test1: apt-get changelog apt, search for "changelog", find reference to bug #526990 (debian), see discussion?  Maybe you can propose it's moved to apt-cache, I don't know
[12:31] <jrib> no ubottu
[12:31] <jrib> debian #526990
[12:32] <test1> jrib: thanks
[12:32] <blackhole> is there any software for router monitoring tools? using Ubuntu?
[12:33] <dr_willis> router monitoring tools - is a little broad. there are Log display/watcher tools to  see whats going on with the router if it supports that.. err.. smnp? logging standard.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> blackhole: iftop, iptraff
[12:33] <jrib> test1: one reason may be that the changelogs aren't actually cached, so it isn't really using apt-"cache"
[12:34] <blackhole> cfhowlett, is that on software center?
[12:34] <test1> jrib: could be, but then the description of apt-cache and apt-get should be redefined. at this point it looks inconsistent.
[12:34] <dr_willis> !info iftop
[12:34] <jrib> test1: yep, probably worth a comment on that bug just to get a discussion started about it
[12:35] <test1> jrib: will do this weekend
[12:35] <cfhowlett> blackhole: bad intel.  iiptraff is linux but not in any ubuntu repo.  Sorry.
[12:35] <leotr> can i modify ubuntu installer which automatically configures disk layout (e.g. boot loader - 1. recovery partition (continues installation to 2) - 2. system parition (modifiable, gets erased when booting from 1st partition) - 3. data partition (modifiable, untouched when booting from 1st partition)
[12:36] <blackhole> cfhowlett, ah... ok
[12:36] <cfhowlett> blackhole: see article  http://www.linuxscrew.com/2010/11/25/how-to-monitor-traffic-at-cisco-router-using-linux-netflow/
[12:36] <blackhole> i learn a lot w/u guys thanks...
[12:36] <dr_willis> leotr:  you mean you want to make your own cd that  auto partions differntly?
[12:36] <Focus30> Ciao a tutti
[12:37] <Focus30> !list
[12:37] <dr_willis> the list zombies are awake. ;)
[12:38] <dr_willis> iftop shows some neat info.... not sure i understand why im seeing connections to some sites. ;)
[12:39] <basz> hi can someone please explain to me conf.d ? all files in here are automaticly read? does 00-* property are overwritten by later ones? for example 90-*
[12:39] <dr_willis> www.layer8-problem.org        seems... a weird name
[12:39] <basz> or the other way around?
[12:39] <dr_willis> basz:  whats the exact path/filename?  im not clear on which conf files you mean
[12:39] <Guest87146> thanks for the help guys, im sure ill be back with more questions about LTSP lol
[12:39] <basz> i'm talking about /etc/dovecot/conf.d
[12:40] <basz> but i'm guessing this is a general thing (convention)
[12:40] <dr_willis> basz:  how i normally think it works. the various parts 'in order' basically get used as the whole config file.
[12:40] <dr_willis> sort of 'merged' in order to become the  main config file.
[12:41] <basz> I have some older dovecot conf files that I would like to consolidate them into conf.d
[12:41] <dr_willis> numbers are not always used.. for example in -> /etc/bash_completion.d/
[12:42] <dr_willis> or they get 'ran' in order to generate the config file - like in  grub.d  --> /etc/grub.d
[12:45] <basz> hmm my dovecot.conf does not contain '!include conf.d/*.conf' so apparently those config files aren't used anyways
[12:45] <basz> all conf is in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[12:46] <basz> no magic going on here… i like that
[12:47] <jrib> the conf.d directories are nice if other packages need to add things to the configuration; they can just drop a file in the appropriate directory
[12:47] <ovnicraft> hello i am configuring my interfaces i got 2 so this is my interfaces file https://gist.github.com/3839643
[12:48] <ovnicraft> i got an error when ifup eth1
[12:48] <ovnicraft> ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[12:48] <ovnicraft> why this ?
[12:49] <llutz_> ovnicraft: check the line after "auto eth1"
[12:49] <llutz_> ovnicraft: it has to be "iface eth1...." not iface eth0
[12:49] <mechteam> is it ok to distribute Remastered ubuntu on my website ?
[12:50] <ovnicraft> llutz_: thx
[12:50] <basz> jeesh,.. are .pem files interchanble to .crt files? (lets try that)
[12:50] <ovnicraft> stupid error
[12:50] <llutz_> ovnicraft: typical copy/paste error :)
[12:50] <cfhowlett> mechteam: see the licensing details, but generally OK
[12:50] <ovnicraft> yes
[12:51] <mechteam> thanks cfhowlett ovnicraft
[12:51] <ovnicraft> llutz_: ok si i got another issue (not related) can't ping public IP
[12:51] <ninwa> Anyone know a good app that integrates Google Voice into my desktop at all, or even just a nice standalone app would be fine too.
[12:51] <llutz_> ovnicraft: your public ip from inside LAN?
[12:51] <ninwa> I'm particularly interested in the SMS aspect of it.
[12:52] <ninwa> I found this, but it's no longer being developed: http://rstoeber.com/apps/Google_Voice_Utility.html
[12:52] <ovnicraft> llutz_: not, it is connected directly to modem
[12:52] <basz> yep they are...
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> ninwa  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/add-google-voice-alerts-to-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu
[12:53] <ninwa> MonkeyDust, perfect :]
[12:53] <ninwa> Thank you
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> ninwa  it's PPA so don't expect much support if anything goes wrong
[12:54] <ninwa> It is a bit old.
[12:54] <Sagi> there is no such thing as a RC-release for 12.10, right?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> ninwa  i guess that's the closest you can get
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Sagi  it's called beta
[12:55] <ovnicraft> llutz_: to be more clear, modem is connected to cisco, and my ubuntu is connected to cisco switch
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|Sagi:
[12:55] <Sagi> I have really new hardware in my laptop and currently run 12.04. Most of the things work, but I'm kinda hoping for better luck with linux 3.5.X
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> Sagi  3 weeks to go
[12:56] <Sagi> though hesitant to try something which has seen far less exposure to users :-)
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> or less
[12:56] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to merge two ntfs partition to single
[12:56] <dylanger> Hey Guys!
[12:57] <cfhowlett> dylanger: greetings
[12:57] <iceroot> dhanasekaran: without losing data from one partition?
[12:57] <mechteam> dhanasekaran you can try gparted
[12:57] <Sagi> cfhowlett: thanks, I'll resume there
[12:57] <fgh> !broadcom
[12:58] <llutz_> ovnicraft: is your modem configured to ignore icmp-requests? or does your ISP filter this?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  i did it with gparted, without dataloss, but it took a very long time
[12:59] <ovnicraft> llutz_: my modem don't do that, i got another ip configured and i can ping it
[12:59] <llutz_> ovnicraft: your public IP is 190.95..... right? it doesn't answer pings
[12:59] <dhanasekaran> MonkeyDust, with option please guide me, I have important data is here
[12:59] <BluesKaj> dhanasekaran, you'll have to back up the data from probly the first partiton , and then use gparted live /media to expand the remaining partition into the data-less one , there's really no other way and it can take a while
[13:00] <ovnicraft> llutz_: 186.46...
[13:00] <ninwa> MonkeyDust, yeah appears the ppa is no longer active, ill have to use this as an excuse to try out Golang's networking libs :P
[13:00] <BluesKaj> dhanasekaran, correction back up the data from probly the second partiton
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  the safest way, is by making a backup, delete the partition, merge them and put the data back
[13:10] <pascal_> allo jvoudra dlaide ec mon client
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[13:10] <pascal_> MonkeyDust: thanks
[13:11] <Martell> !th
[13:13] <mouse> how can I change a partition's ending sector?
[13:13] <Industrial> On ubuntu server, how do I give a user access to run a port on port 80? right now I'm getting EACCESS
[13:13] <Industrial> run a server on port 80*
[13:14] <jrib> Industrial: why do you want to do that?  What server?
[13:14] <Rahoul> you could set up apache to allow them to run a site from their own personal folder
[13:14] <Industrial> my own NodeJS server
[13:15] <llutz_> !info authbind | Industrial
[13:15] <Industrial> thanks
[13:17] <_XMENDES> hi guys. how to decrease the size of the side panel? at 11:10?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> _XMENDES  try MyUnity
[13:18] <_XMENDES> i have to install this?
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> _XMENDES  don't know if it's in the 11.10 repos, you may need a ppa
[13:19] <_XMENDES> i found it on ubuntu program central.
[13:20] <enyc> Hrrm...  How to get scripts to run at graphical login before processes started using unity?  I used to use  .xinitrc  which did, for example,  export some environment variables that applied to all programs started via gnome,  but that doesn't seem to be having any effect on 12.04/unity...    NB: I do NOT want to just 'launch' another program after logged-in, but rather influence the login.
[13:20] <frankblax> Ubuntu 12 w/ LTSP: when several users try to print, the printer icon disappears from printing dialog (gedit)
[13:21] <mouse> how do I use fdisk to change a partition's ending sector?
[13:21] <_XMENDES> another question, how to change the buttons to maximize the window, to the right side?
[13:21] <enyc> mouse: you can use fdisk to resize a partition by recreating it, but this DOES not affect the filesystem in it, that you would then need to recreate !! backup first etc...
[13:21] <_XMENDES> unity again (11:10)
[13:21] <enyc> mouse: may be better to just use   gparted  ?
[13:22] <mouse> enyc, The problem is that gparted says there's overlapping partitions and I can't install 12.04.1 until I fix that.
[13:22] <kyubotsu> mouse: the ending sector is directly proportional to the partition size. therefore, to change the ending sector means changing the partition size
[13:23] <_XMENDES> another question, how to change the buttons to maximize the window, to the right side?
[13:23] <enyc> mouse: hrrm...  can you pastebin  the output of 'sudo fdisk -luc'  and show us?
[13:23] <mouse> kyubotsu, So I can't just change the ending sector from 34420 to 34419?
[13:23] <enyc> mouse: you may be able to by manually hexediting the sector tbh  ive done such things
[13:24] <daanish> How do I run gnome applets in fluxbox? I know nm-applet for network, but what about sound and battery?
[13:24] <enyc> mouse: hrrm...  can you pastebin  the output of 'sudo fdisk -luc'  so i can doublecheck the facts and see for myself?
[13:25] <mouse> enyc, http://pastebin.com/pXBPkM6b
[13:27] <alex__> hi all~
[13:27] <cfhowlett> alex__: greetings
[13:27] <kyubotsu> mouse: didn't you say you had winXP in there before? i see an ntfs partition though..
[13:27] <enyc> mouse: weird...  notice there is a weird error about 'ommitting empty partition'
[13:28] <enyc> mouse: depneding what you want to achieve we may be able to delete/recreate many partitions etc.. .  are you interested in wiping everything but the NTFS at the top? etc.
[13:28] <mouse> kyubotsu, I'm pretty sure winxp can read ntfs.  I've already booted into it a few times.
[13:28] <frankblax> How I can uninstall quota? Just apt-get remove quota quotatool? Tnks
[13:29] <enyc> mouse: the linux swap partition is primary partition and yet defined as part of the  extended!
[13:29] <mouse> enyc, I want to install ubuntu 12.04.1 to sda5 and keep everything else.
[13:29] <mouse> enyc, That's weird.  the swap is supposed to be in the extended.
[13:30] <enyc> mouse: ok  first off...   sudo fdisk -uc /dev/sda    then do 'p' and chcek the list again
[13:30] <enyc> mouse: we can try to delete the swap and it ought to be able to create a new one on reinstall
[13:30] <enyc> mouse: does the list still have 'sda3' as the swap?
[13:31] <mouse> enyc, Yeah it does.
[13:31] <enyc> mouse: ok in which case 'd' then select '3'  then do 'p' to list again
[13:32] <enyc> mouse: does it now have everything happily except for swap now not listed at all?
[13:32] <mouse> enyc, It's gone.
[13:32] <enyc> mouse: excellent, in which case 'w' to write out
[13:33] <mouse> enyc, should I be doing that when I'm not in a live session?
[13:33] <enyc> mouse: it doesn't matter.  the worse that will happen is you will have to reboot to make the kernel forget the old swap
[13:34] <enyc> mouse: "cat /proc/swaps" -- do you have the faulty-partitioned-swap still mounted now?
[13:35] <mouse> enyc, Yeah it's still mounted.
[13:35] <drupin> how can i get terminal to  transperent apperance mode.. i changed the colors and its not able to get back to default..
[13:35] <enyc> mouse: ok the simplest thing to do  is reboot  and then get it to create install partitions etc..  with any luck it will then create an extended partition for swap properly
[13:35] <mouse> enyc, Also this happened.  Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[13:35] <mouse> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[13:35] <mouse> The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at
[13:35] <mouse> the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)
[13:35] <mouse> Syncing disks.
[13:35] <FloodBot1> mouse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <kyubotsu> perhaps it'd be easier if you did this from a live cd
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> drupin  edit, profiles, or profile preferences
[13:36] <enyc> mouse: yes, that error happened, because the swap was still mounted, so the kernel refuses to re-think the partittion table which is incompatible with what it knows
[13:36] <drupin> MonkeyDust: i did no effect
[13:36] <enyc> mouse: just boot off the install cd and gparted, create new extended swap partition
[13:36] <enyc> mouse: and install away, with any luck
[13:37] <drupin> i like the little bit transperent one... but its full black MonkeyDust
[13:37] <mouse> enyc, So the swap partition was the problem the whole time?  I thought sda5 and sda6 were sharing the same ending and starting sector.
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> drupin  well, that's where you have to look
[13:37] <enyc> mouse: alternatively, you can 'sudo swapoff -a' and 'sudo partprobe'  may get you somewhere
[13:37] <enyc> mouse: looks like it
[13:37] <TimothyA> is there an easy way to generate a list of file checksums, and use that list to verify wether or not everything got copied over correctly?
[13:37] <enyc> mouse: certainly the swap partitian was setup as a primary partition (1-4) yet was defined within the space of the extended-partition-container
[13:38] <drupin> MonkeyDust: the transparent slider is not effecting
[13:38] <llutz_> !info tripwire | TimothyA
[13:38] <mouse> enyc, Any idea how that could of happened?
[13:38] <enyc> mouse: no =)
[13:38] <enyc> mouse:  depends on the history of your partitioning etc etc
[13:39] <TimothyA> llutz_: I'll check in a moment if it's what I am looking for. currently on the phone with dediserve AGAIN
[13:39] <enyc> mouse: try 'sudo swapoff -a' and 'sudo partprobe'  and  start gparted now, can you create a new extended swap partition now?
[13:39] <mouse> enyc, Sweet gparted can now read /dev/sda!
[13:39] <enyc> mouse: yes but you DO NOT want to create new filessytems over a space where the kernel still has old-swap mounted
[13:40] <mouse> enyc, What do you mean?
[13:40] <enyc> mouse: if you  cat /proc/swaps   is it still mounted?
[13:40] <kyubotsu> enyc: i would simply clear all the ext4 and swap partitions, and fresh isntall in the freed space. simple
[13:40] <mouse> enyc, yes
[13:40] <_XMENDES> another question, how to change the buttons to maximize the window, to the right side?
[13:40] <enyc> kyubotsu: yes but he wants to keep one of the ext4's
[13:40] <enyc> mouse: yes then don't create new stuff yet
[13:41] <enyc> mouse: beacuse the kernel will still write stuff there,  if you create new swap headers  they may get overwritten etc etc
[13:41] <mouse> enyc, even if I boot off the livecd first?
[13:41] <enyc> mouse: no, then you should be alright in that case
[13:41] <kyubotsu> enyc: he can do that after the install anyway.. unless he got a ton of stuff in it.. /shrugs
[13:41] <shabnam> hi
[13:41] <enyc> kyubotsu: do ??that??  what do you maen?
[13:42] <shabnam> i installed ubuntu 12.10 and i now cant run windows 8
[13:42] <enyc> mouse:   you COULD try this now --   'sudo swapoff -a',  check   'cat /proc/swaps'  is now empty  and 'sudo partprobe',  then you should be safe to create new swap right away ... be interested to know how that goes
[13:42] <shabnam> pls help me
[13:42] <kyubotsu> enyc: create a separate partition after the fresh install; am just wondering why he NEEDS that other ext4 intact
[13:42] <enyc> shabnam: boot menu at startup?  don't you get a menu appear where you can press down key to select the windwos boot?
[13:42] <shabnam> what i will do?
[13:42] <enyc> kyubotsu: maybe he has data on it? ;-)
[13:43] <enyc> shabnam: when you start up,  there should be a GRUB screen where you get a list of operating systems to start
[13:43] <cherva> can someone tell me a program to exchange mail from pop3 to maildir
[13:43] <enyc> cherva: hummmmmmmmm manually as a one-off or some kind of automatic ?
[13:43] <shabnam> i get grub but when i use windows 8 in grub menu this error is showed
[13:44] <llutz_> cherva: pop3 is a protocol, maildir a mail storage-format
[13:44] <cherva> enyc: automatic
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: do you already have  mail-delivery by a mail-transfer-agent  to that maildir?
[13:44] <cherva> llutz_: from email accaunt with pop3 to my local mail server witch has maildir format
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: but you just want  another  pop3 account delivered into the same maildir too?
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: ok so your local mail server does work ?
[13:44] <enyc> cherva: and does accept SMTP locally?
[13:45] <cherva> enyc:  it accepts
[13:45] <enyc> cherva: in which case 'fetchmail' is designed to do what you describe.  it downloads from pop3 server and then puts into local mail-queue.
[13:45] <mouse> enyc, I created a new swap space using gparted and cat /proc/swaps shows it's mounted.
[13:45] <enyc> cherva: which can then, of course, deliver to maildir.
[13:45] <cherva> enyc: thanks  :)
[13:45] <enyc> mouse: argh!!
[13:45] <enyc> mouse: you should have unmounted the old swap first!?!?!!?!?
[13:45] <mouse> enyc, I did remember?
[13:46] <enyc> mouse: are you sure  you managed to 'swapoff -a' and CHECK it WAS NOT MOUNTED  before you created new ones?
[13:46] <mouse> enyc, Yeah the table was empty.
[13:46] <enyc> mouse: aah ok.  and what did you do to mount new one?
[13:46] <shabnam> error: device format "idm/********" invalid must be (fIH) dn
[13:47] <mouse> enyc, I just used gparted's swapon.
[13:47] <enyc> mouse: ok  you missed that part out in your explanation
[13:47] <shabnam> pls help me i need to run windows 8 to night
[13:47] <enyc> mouse: now that probably won't be listed  in your  /etc/fstab  for automatic
[13:47] <mouse> enyc, The new swap space is sda7 instead of sda3 now.
[13:47] <enyc> mouse: but if you reinstall its' all quite irrelevant
[13:48] <enyc> shabnam: i can t say i've seen that error... looking it up...
[13:48] <smellySally> is software for pdf annotations available on ubuntu?
[13:48] <shabnam> omg i am student i need to run windows
[13:48] <shabnam> and i know cant run windows
[13:48] <shabnam> i installed ubuntu 12.10 beta2
[13:48] <enyc> shabnam: heheh could of coures recover image backup  or install windows in a virtual machine.  not sure.
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: so 12.10 beta  buggy and breaks it?
[13:49] <shabnam> i am new in ubuntu family
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: try installing 12.04.1 lts instead
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: and see if it creates working grub2 menu
[13:49] <enyc> shabnam: beta-testing should be discussed in #ubuntu+1  channel instead
[13:49] <llutz_> !12.10 | shabnam its a still beta and not supported here.
[13:49] <shabnam> enyc
[13:50] <shabnam> ok
[13:50] <shabnam> how can i restore windows 8
[13:50] <enyc> smellySally: i've seen that before.. hrrm
[13:50] <enyc> shabnam: well it may just be the boot menu is broken.
[13:50] <enyc> shabnam: TRY FIRST  install 12.04.1 LTS instead, and see if that creates a working boot menu
[13:50] <shabnam> how can i update the grub
[13:50] <enyc> shabnam: TRY FIRST  install 12.04.1 LTS instead, and see if that creates a working GRUB menu <<<<<--------------
[13:51] <shabnam> what is update grub code in terminal
[13:51] <nvzn> hey, i'm running precise and it seems to be quite sluggish at times
[13:51] <enyc> shabnam: the problem is installing different version of the grub scripts that might actually work
[13:51] <nvzn> doesn't respond to keyboard so well
[13:51] <Ulfr> Hello all, is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Server issues?
[13:51] <mouse> enyc, Thank you for your help!  I'm going to upgrade to 12.04.1 now.
[13:51] <llutz_>  #ubuntu-server Ulfr
[13:51] <jrib> Ulfr: here is ok.  But #ubuntu-server also exists
[13:52] <nvzn> kindof locks up for a few seconds
[13:52] <enyc> mouse: good luck, thats created lots of furor hehe
[13:52] <enyc> shabnam: did you use a boot-cd to install from etc.?
[13:52] <nvzn> i can't quite put my finger on what it is
[13:52] <nvzn> i check the running processes, all seems normal
[13:52] <mouse> enyc, Furor?
[13:52] <Ulfr> I just switched my frontend webservers from CentOS to Ubuntu because of an issue with PCRE, but now my HAProxy starts to slow down and bog down the site and I haven't the foggiest why
[13:52] <enyc> shabnam: grub2 is compiled via a pile of scripts, OS-finder tool, etc.   if the version in 12.10  is being silly, try 12.04.1 ?
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: controversy, problems, complaints.
[13:53] <nvzn> any ideas?
[13:53] <visored> if the left side bar is bugged, how can it be reloaded without restarting?
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: unity-issues.  general buginess under the hood.
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: some love same hate
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: especially experienced unix users dont like the  beginess when you do too much
[13:53] <enyc> mouse: i know many sticking with 10.04 lts or using debian etc.
[13:54] <nvzn> 10.04 was better for me too
[13:54] <mouse> enyc, Ah I see.  This whole day hasn't really been a walk in the park for me either.  I'll be installing gnome-panel to get back to gnome2 cause there's no way I'm using unity.
[13:54] <enyc> yes well it seems ubuntu is worknig to forge out a lot of new stuffs  but  not lots of bug-squashing under the hood  like debian rc-bugs-squashing
[13:55] <shabnam> you say i will instal ubuntu 12.04
[13:55] <enyc> mouse: yes or give up and use  mint-13 with its' gnome-2-derivative,  or debian wheezy7.0 and install the xfce packages ;-)
[13:55] <shabnam> mint or ubunut
[13:55] <shabnam> ubuntu
[13:55] <enyc> shabnam: yes, do that, and it will use 12.04.1 's stuff to create a new grub2 menu,  with any luck that will fix it
[13:55] <enyc> shabnam: or mint-13  which is also based on 12.04  it doesn't really matter
[13:56] <enyc> shabnam: but NOT the BETA-TESTING 12.10 !
[13:56] <mouse> enyc, Which one?  cinnamon or mate?
[13:56] <shabnam> ok
[13:56] <shabnam> tnx
[13:56] <enyc> shabnam: if it doesn't work,  use the restore-cd mechanism from your computer manufacturer
[13:56] <shabnam> if i know restore windows 8 boot menu my system may not damage?
[13:56] <shabnam> be
[13:57] <FusionX> is it possible to upload a file from just command line? I only have shell access to the server I want to upload the file from.
[13:57] <enyc> mouse: MATE seems to be the gnome-2-derivative that just behaves mostly
[13:58] <enyc> shabnam: this is all software stuffs, not system hardware
[13:58] <jrib> FusionX: scp or sftp
[13:58] <enyc> FusionX: yes, you can use  scp or sftp   to copy to/from the same place you ssh to
[13:58] <shabnam> very tnx to enyc
[13:58] <shabnam> bye
[13:58] <FusionX> i'll look into that, thanks enyc
[13:58] <shabnam> have a good night
[13:59] <FusionX> enyc: it wouldn't compromise the server, right?
[13:59] <FusionX> and I can't understand how to use it to transfer files to my system.
[14:00] <daanish> what's the name of the gnome screenshot tool, and how do I invoke it from command line?
[14:00] <enyc> FusionX: what do you mean 'compromise'  are you sending/receieving dodgy files ? etc.
[14:00] <i7c> FusionX: sshfs
[14:01] <FusionX> enyc: nope, it's a minecraft world save. nvm though, I was confused for a sec.
[14:01] <enyc> FusionX: you can  'scp  username@servername:remotefile  localfile'  etc.
[14:02] <FusionX> i7c: ah, got it, this one seems easier. thanks
[14:02] <i7c> np
[14:02] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:02] <enyc> FusionX: its worth going past the ''i will only deal with things that seem easy'' barrier you get further that way.  expand your mind. ;-).
[14:03] <FusionX> enyc: I'm all open for new stuff :)
[14:03] <mouse> Quick question.  Will changing a partition label with gparted cause data to be lost?
[14:04] <enyc> mouse: shouldn't do, if it is doing what i think.
[14:04] <enyc> mouse:  it may stop /etc/fstab  etc. auto-mounting it if the name has changed, if it was mounted by label.
[14:04] <souleem> iiiiii
[14:04] <souleem> cnocheteeees
[14:05] <mouse> enyc, Alright thank you.
[14:05] <enyc> mouse: as always, back everything up before fiddling, but you kno =)
[14:05] <enyc> right im spending oto much time giving free technical support, not getting any answers to my question bleurgh!
[14:05] <mouse> enyc, Eh it's just windows.  Nothing of value would be lost.  =P
[14:06] <mttx> Hello Guys
[14:06] <mttx> Anyone here can help me change ubuntu 12 theme?
[14:06] <enyc> I want to know, how do the equivalent of  .xinitrc  in unity -- script that runs as part of X login, and can export environment variables BEFORE spawning all other unitp programs panels destkop etc.  please =)
[14:06] <kydan> hey guys quick question that I thought google would return easily but Im still a bit confused. I have an apache2 server that will be serving static content and will only be accessed by myself. What is best practices for file ownership underneath /var/www? www-data:www-data or my personal user? I was a bit confused cuz the default index.html generated by apache on install is owned by root:root which seems improper.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> mouse, labelling partitions is just an aid to identify your partitions like dolphin "places" as an example
[14:06] <mttx> I tried to drop package with theme on look widndow, but it didnt work
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> mttx  use gnome-tweak-tool
[14:07] <leotr> on some notebooks there is a recovery button (when user pressed it a system gets reinstalled) how to do the same thing with linux?
[14:07] <enyc> kydan: you can change the  apache2 conf  to simply serve files   from /home/kydan/my-website  or something if you like...
[14:07] <mttx> MonkeyDust, okay i go try that
[14:08] <kydan> enyc: I'd like to keep the default dir of /var/www, but either way who should own the files? Thats my main concern.
[14:08] <mttx> MonkeyDust, Where can i find it?
[14:08] <enyc> leotr: i guess thats manufacturer specif -- how did they setup their recovery-ssytem
[14:08] <BluesKaj> mouse, or nautllus
[14:08] <enyc> kydan: there are many options ;-)
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> mttx  in the software center
[14:08] <frankblax> ubuntu 12 w/ltsp: gedit printer icon disappears when several users try to print
[14:08] <mttx> Okay, another question
[14:08] <mouse> BluesKaj, Thank you.
[14:08] <OerHeks> leotr, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[14:08] <leotr> enyc: partition on drive and i think it becomes bootable
[14:08] <mttx> MonkeyDust, How do i open terminal here
[14:08] <leotr> thanks
[14:09] <enyc> kydan: if the webserver only needs to READ files then it can simply be owned by you, and your files must have the  r permission at the end in order that 'anybody' including webserver can 'read' them
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> mttx  ctrl-alt t
[14:09] <kydan> enyc: hehe indeed, I am looking for a best practices option for a super simple webserver! Its just static html pages
[14:09] <enyc> kydan: im not sure about 'best practice'  i think thats subjective
[14:09] <kydan> enyc: of course
[14:09] <llutz_> kydan: i'd use "$user:www-data"
[14:09] <enyc> kydan: and what do you mean be 'super simple' etc
[14:09] <kydan> llutz_: cool, thats kindof what I suspected
[14:10] <mttx> MonkeyDust, okay thanks a bilion, one more question. Can i change comptuer name somehow without reinstalling ubuntu?
[14:10] <llutz_> kydan: it makes sure your user can write/remove the files and the server can read them
[14:10] <kydan> enyc: just that its static html/php pages, really no DB access etc.
[14:10] <enyc> mttx: yes  mostly just update /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts  files i think
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> mttx  in hosts, or hostname
[14:10] <enyc> kydan: thetn you also don't need full blown apache2 tbh either...
[14:11] <_XMENDES> ubuntu 11:10 uses xserver?
[14:11] <mttx> I just switched from mint, thank you guys for help
[14:11] <kydan> llutz_: yeah ok, thats what I am looking for. I just wasnt sure if I should have www-data user be the owner as well. Is that typically considered unsecure to have the user www-data own files?
[14:11] <enyc> kydan: insecure againsh what? what is needed etc.
[14:11] <kydan> enyc: fair enough.
[14:12] <enyc> kydan: i think apache2 normally runs as  www-data
[14:12] <llutz_> kydan: im not a webmaster, but i see no reason why the webserver should have writeaccess to all files. just limited access to single files
[14:12] <enyc> kydan: if the directory-path + file is traversible/readable by   www-data,  it can serve the file
[14:12] <_XMENDES> i can use 3d on ubuntu 11:10 .. i have a 96 nvidia card.
[14:12] <enyc> kydan: if the directory-path + file is WRITABLE by www-data  a script running as the web server can 'change' stuff which might be damaging
[14:12] <_XMENDES> i can t use 3d on ubuntu 11:10 .. i have a 96 nvidia card.
[14:12] <kydan> enyc: cool. so 775 with $user:www-data should do it.
[14:13] <enyc> kydan: 755 tbh -- 775  allows www-data to write
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> _XMENDES  try upgrading to 12.04
[14:13] <kydan> enyc: oh woops yes. thanks.
[14:13] <_XMENDES> ok ..
[14:14] <llutz_> ky775 only for those it really needs to write to (not likely when using statical html only)
[14:14] <kyubotsu> just a little token of info... there is also an #ubuntu-server
[14:14] <enyc> I've answered lots of other questions, but nobody is helping me with where to find mine ;-(
[14:15] <mttx> MonkeyDust, I installed gnome tweak tool, but how do i open it now?
[14:15] <kydan> enyc: the root dir of /var/www should be owned by root:root though correct?
[14:15] <kyubotsu> >.>
[14:17] <enyc> kydan: again it depends what you want
[14:17] <enyc> kydan: if that is the case then, unless its world-writable,  NOBODY can put anything there.
[14:17] <enyc> kydan: (except manually as root).
[14:17] <feisar> ubuntu 12.04 is getting stuck on boot saying 'waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration' why would this be?
[14:18] <enyc> feisar: can't reach DHCP server?  is the cable plugged in?  etc.
[14:18] <kydan> enyc: I think thats what I would like since I'll be the only one using this thing. I believe thats the default as well.
[14:18] <enyc> feisar: do you have a custom  /etc/network/interfaces  file or something?
[14:18] <kydan> enyc: thanks for your help!
[14:19] <enyc> kydan: what do you mean 'you'
[14:19] <enyc> kydan: do you mean 'kydan' or do you mean 'root' ?
[14:19] <Jacruth> hi guys, "apt-get update" doesn't finish to retrieve the headers, why?
[14:20] <feisar> enyc: I do yes, here it is : http://pastebin.com/cneM8sUV
[14:20] <enyc> UaaaArgh  ive answered loods of questions  and  nobody is helping me ;-(  how do I *per-user* create a  unity  startup script, that  can e.g. set environment variables  that are inherited by all processes launched from the unity desktop login?
[14:20] <kydan> enyc: I'll be the only person adding/removing/modifying files on this setup, and I have access to the root user, so when things need to be modified as root that is not a problem.
[14:21] <enyc> kydan: yes but its bad practice to do routine updates as root
[14:21] <enyc> kydan: its much better to set permissions such that you just update the files as you
[14:21] <kydan> enyc: humm alright.
[14:21] <enyc> feisar: ok they are all set by static.
[14:21] <feisar> yeah
[14:21] <enyc> kydan: as its easier to make a systemwide-disaster
[14:21] <llutz_> kydan: "$user:www-data" and set sgid on /var/www too
[14:21] <enyc> feisar: not sure then tbh
[14:21] <badhorse> Jacruth, same problem here. i don't know why.
[14:22] <feisar> enyc: ok thanks, it does it on both my standard 12.04 server installs
[14:22] <enyc> feisar: has something changed thats stopping both notwork cards being identified etc.?
[14:22] <feisar> enyc: what do you mean identified?
[14:22] <enyc> feisar: yes i think ubuntu is getitng a lot of 'bugs under the hood'  they aren't like debian and RC-bug-fixing etc.
[14:23] <enyc> feisar: found by kernel and udev etc.
[14:23] <enyc> feisar: e.g. 'sudo ifconfig' can you see all your cards ?
[14:23] <feisar> enyc: yes
[14:23] <_XMENDES> 12:04 dont have suport to 96 nvidia driver?
[14:24] <jrib> enyc: use ~/.xprofile (or ~/.profile if it's the sort of thing you want set even when not using a gui).  If you want to startup apps, use ~/.config/autostart/ (drop a .desktop file in there)
[14:24] <enyc> _XMENDES: packages.ubuntu.com/nvidia-96  apparently its still there
[14:24] <_XMENDES> tks
[14:25] <_XMENDES> im upgrading here
[14:25] <enyc> jrib: THANKYOU!  is that started from the process that then launches everything, such that environment variables get inherited by everything started from the gui?
[14:25] <_XMENDES> back later.. see ya
[14:25] <jrib> enyc: yes
[14:25] <enyc> jrib: (at least, exported environment variables)
[14:25] <Azzle-Dazzle> does anyone know why firefox wont apply themes ? it says something about not being able to modify a certain file
[14:25] <enyc> jrib: yay, thankyou
[14:26] <jrib> enyc: feel free to read the contents of /usr/sbin/lightdm-session :)
[14:26] <enyc> jrib: hehee  my uni managed computers now have 12.04.1 lts and unity ;-(
[14:27] <Bertrand> hi!
[14:27] <jrib> enyc: if you don't like unity, they don't let you use a different session?
[14:27] <Bertrand> !list
[14:27] <dr_willis> Azzle-Dazzle:  what theme/file exactly?
[14:27] <dr_willis> Its supposed to be Ciao  then !list. ;P
[14:27] <Azzle-Dazzle> all of them dr_willis ive tried installing several ones from the extensions website and all give the same error
[14:28] <jrib> dr_willis: I have to say, judging solely on the statistics of this channel, italy must lead the world in irc piracy
[14:28] <Azzle-Dazzle> and yes they are all compatible with my system
[14:28] <nielsr> Hi
[14:28] <dr_willis> Azzle-Dazzle:  this one just worked for me..   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/shine-bright-skin/contribute/roadblock/?src=cb-dl-users&version=1.3.2
[14:29] <nielsr> I installed Ubuntu server and wanted to install Gnome Classic on it
[14:29] <dr_willis> nielsr:  you mean gnome 2 ?
[14:29] <nielsr> Yes
[14:29] <DocWilco> where can I find the status of a broken package?
[14:30] <nielsr> So I installed gnome-session-fallback and xinit
[14:30] <DocWilco> so I can get an idea of when things will be fixed?
[14:30] <compdoc> nielsr, I do that, but I install a very basic unity
[14:30] <enyc> nielsr: humm  you may need mint-13 MATE that continues   gnome-2  if thats what you want ??
[14:30] <nielsr> I don't want Unity :p
[14:30] <jrib> DocWilco: bugs.ubuntu.com
[14:30] <enyc> compdoc: how?
[14:30] <dr_willis> nielsr:  what version? the newer releases only have the gnome-3 fallnack mode..
[14:30] <nielsr> 12.04
[14:30] <Azzle-Dazzle> dr_willis: that one did not work either, same error
[14:30] <varikonniemi> hello. What will happen if i kill the python process on my machine?
[14:31] <nielsr> I used to use Ubuntu until I started using a Mac
[14:31] <varikonniemi> 12.04 64bit
[14:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> varikonniemi: "the python process" ?
[14:31] <smellySally> is software for pdf annotations available on ubuntu? I tried evince and okular so far. evince only can do text annotations. okular has at least a highlight function and basic drawing tools, but it can't save to pdf. any alternatives?
[14:31] <nielsr> But now I want a new Ubuntu box with the "old" desktop
[14:31] <dr_willis> Azzle-Dazzle:  i think you need to tell us the specific error. I would bet some file in your home is somehow owned by root.. as a test. try the same thing with a new user.
[14:31] <varikonniemi> yes, 12.04 has a process named python in autostart
[14:31] <dr_willis> BBL.
[14:31] <enyc> smellySally: i think i had someting starting with x that did that hummmmmmmmmm
[14:31] <pocata1> I want to ask is there any web browser that can change his IP blocked it because I am in a website and want to go again but it says that the ip is banned
[14:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> smellySally: xournal
[14:31] <enyc> smellySally: one of my lecturers used it
[14:31] <enyc> WhereIsMySpoon: yeeees thats probably it
[14:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> my lecturers use that a lot
[14:32] <dr_willis> pocata1: use a proxy, or somthing like TOR.
[14:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> seems p good
[14:32] <enyc> pocata1: humm no other than going via some proxy-server
[14:32] <varikonniemi> all 3 of my c2d nvidia setups have the problem python spawns a zombie child. So will something not work if i kill the python to get rid of the zombie? :D
[14:32] <enyc> pocata1: reconnect cablemodem  get new ip address etc.?
[14:33] <Azzle-Dazzle> dr_willis: This is the error: 'Nameoftheme' Could not be installed because firefox cannot modify the needed file'
[14:33] <compdoc> enyc, here's my notes:     http://pastebin.com/8YkYuxwY
[14:34] <maslen> How can I set the bitrate in Sound Juice ? The "Edit Profiles" button is missing
[14:34] <Summonziggurats> does anyone here have any experience with invision powerboard?
[14:34] <Summonziggurats> i cant seem to find a dedicated irc channel for it
[14:34] <smellySally> enyc: xournal? next on my list to try ^^
[14:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Azzle-Dazzle: you're not working in a sandbox are you
[14:35] <blackhole_> Hi I am trying to install Marlin (a Window Manager) but doing "http://ppa.launchpad.net/marlin-devs/marlin-daily/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages" gives me error Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~marlin-devs/+archive/marlin-daily: <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known>
[14:35] <enyc> compdoc: ok and does that give you gnome-2 or gnome-3 ?
[14:35] <blackhole_> Can someone help?
[14:35] <varikonniemi> lol wait a minute
[14:35] <varikonniemi> now i found out the root cause :D
[14:35] <Azzle-Dazzle> no its a proper ubuntu set up :) dual booted along side windows on a seperate drive
[14:35] <enyc> blackhole_: maybe, if we have a good clearly written out question with the needed details in it
[14:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> Azzle-Dazzle: could be that your default profile folder naem is too long
[14:35] <smellySally> blackhole_: isn't marlin a file manager?
[14:35] <blackhole_> smellySally: yeh sorry
[14:35] <pocata1> not tried it there a way to put some masked IP with a program or something else
[14:36] <blackhole_> smellySally: that's what i meant, nautils is taking too much memory!
[14:36] <varikonniemi> guake terminal uses python, and when it is launched, it launches python, and bash and itself, and for some reason itself is shown as zombie :D
[14:36] <enyc> pocata1: not directly, its a properlty of the network, not the program runnig on it, as such
[14:36] <blackhole_> enyc: I couldn't install marlin .. help me on that
[14:36] <compdoc> enyc, its Unity, the standard desktop, but you can install this instead:   gnome-session-fallback
[14:36] <jrib> blackhole_: doing what?  You said you're "doing URL".  I don't know what that means.  Also, is https right?
[14:36] <enyc> blackhole_: because?
[14:36] <Azzle-Dazzle> WhereIsMySpoon: How would I know that ? It used to work at first, I unistalled it with synaptic, But chromium has been crashing lately so i redownloaded it.
[14:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> Azzle-Dazzle: look at the name
[14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> also you said this was firefox
[14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> not chromium
[14:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
[14:37] <blackhole_> enyc because when i try to do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:marlin-devs/marlin-daily it gives error can't open url
[14:37] <blackhole_> jrib: ^^
[14:37] <Azzle-Dazzle> yes sorry, I used to use chromium, it started crashing so I installed firefox (which I previously uninstalled some weeks back because i didnt use it)
[14:37] <enyc> blackhole_: maybe that repository isn't woring any more?  have you tried giving details to the person wor creates that ppa?
[14:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> blackhole_: use thunar, its quite nice
[14:38] <pocata1> I know but I thought there might be a program that could sazdade any IP as expressly granted herein only to
[14:38] <blackhole_> WhereIsMySpoon: Ahh Okay
[14:38] <jrib> blackhole_: can you visit ttps://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~marlin-devs/+archive/marlin-daily in your browser?
[14:38] <blackhole_> WhereIsMySpoon: I will try it..
[14:38] <enyc> pocata1: i diont know what  sazdade  is
[14:38] <enyc> pocata1: alse it really depends what ssytems is cecking IPs in what way etc  how does it work etc.
[14:38] <blackhole_> jrib: The link seems valid
[14:39] <jrib> blackhole_: I don't know what this means
[14:39] <blackhole_> WhereIsMySpoon: Would thunar work with KDE/Gnome or is that only for xfce
[14:39] <Jacruth> badhorse, could it be because ubuntu's reposi?
[14:42] <Azzle-Dazzle> I think i know the issue, Where could i find the mozilla firefox profile folder ?
[14:42] <DocWilco> Azzle-Dazzle: ~/.firefox
[14:42] <seednode> Remember, you can usually Google things like that.
[14:43] <DocWilco> Azzle-Dazzle: sorry, ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[14:43] <slaptman> I have a big problem with my mouse(USB and Touchpad) lagging to the point where sometimes it is unuseable can someone please help?
[14:44] <seednode> slaptman: Are you sure it's not a hardware issue?
[14:44] <slaptman> Works fine on windows i have tried all distros and have that same problem
[14:45] <Azzle-Dazzle> Ok, whats the command to restart an app (sorry for sounding so n00bish, But i am :) )
[14:47] <Azzle-Dazzle> IT WORKS !!!
[14:53] <maslen> frick. Why is it so hard to rip an mp3 into VBR on ubuntu?
[14:54] <Myrtti> it's not.
[14:54] <maslen> Myrtti: How do you do it?
[14:54] <Myrtti> maslen: with soundjuicer.
[14:54] <maslen> rip a CD into a VVBR MP3*
[14:54] <maslen> Myrtti: The "Edit profile" button is grayed out.
[14:54] <maslen> so it only rips 128kbit mp3's.
[14:55] <Myrtti> maslen: or VLC, I can't remember what I used last
[14:55] <maslen> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 /x86-64
[14:56]  * maslen is sad.
[14:56] <Phosphate> Whats the preferred way to stop sharing users home directories? I'm assuming I shouldn't just go at /etc/samba/smb.conf with an axe?
[14:56] <john> Hello
[14:56] <slaptman> I would really love to get the mouse working tired of windows
[14:56] <maslen> back to using exact audio copy on windows.
[14:57] <john> I can not upgrade from ubuntu 10.04
[14:57] <john> I can not upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 please sb help
[14:58] <john> python 2.6 gives error and prevents me from upgrade
[14:59] <john> python 2.6 gives error and prevents me from upgrade
[14:59] <john> python 2.6 gives error and prevents me from upgrade
[14:59] <FloodBot1> john: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <vanberge> anyone know if it's possible to upgrade to 12.10 beta from 12.04 using either apt or update manager?
[15:00] <Pinkamena_D> is it possible to make the screen not show the desktop before it asks for a password
[15:00] <Pinkamena_D> people can still see what i am working on for maybe 1-3 seconds
[15:01] <Pinkamena_D> this being after a resume from suspend
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> vanberge  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:01] <llutz_> !12.10 | vanberge: changing sources.list and using apt-get should do
[15:01] <t00tie> hi. I'm trying to webcast video with different sites. All of them fail 'cos I can't click the "allow access to my camera" flash player thing. Any hints? 12.04 pretty up-to-date
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> t00tie  maybe some ip-tables setting blocks incoming requests
[15:11] <totimkopf> Hi guys, today I booted up my linux laptop which runs 12.04.1 LTS and it went straight to console! Then I did 'sudo reboot' then it xwindows partially appeared (only the cursor) then later I rebooted yet again and just hit enter on the blank screen and everything appeared. What is the issue? How can I fix this? :)
[15:11] <marcos> hola
[15:12] <marcos> hola
[15:12] <marcos> eoooo
[15:13] <t00tie> MonkeyDust: found a solution here https://getsatisfaction.com/12seconds/topics/webcam_doesnt_work_with_flash_10_for_linux and then here http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[15:16] <mashbro> Hi. Which version of Ubuntu do you think this is - bit.ly/PeRPxm ?
[15:17] <ikonia> mashbro: could be any version running unity
[15:18] <OerHeks> mashbro, 12.04 with a funny background
[15:18] <mashbro> ikonia: Yes, do you have any idea which would be it?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> mashbro  it's unity with virtual box in seamless mode
[15:18] <ikonia> mashbro: why ?
[15:18] <totimkopf> nobody has experienced my issue with 12.04.1 LTS? :)
[15:18] <ikonia> mashbro: it's just a current unity version eg: 12.04
[15:20] <xevwork> I'm in a bit of a bind here: I was doing a dist-upgrade on a server when something messed up the terminal - I need to run reset to fix it because it's only updating the bottom line and overwriting it each time there's an update.
[15:20] <vb> knife
[15:20] <xevwork> So, when it got to a config file with differences, I pressed Z to suspend the process.
[15:20] <xevwork> Now I'm not sure what to type to get back into it.
[15:20] <xevwork> fg didn't do it...
[15:21] <trece8> hi. at nm-tool, I see all wireless access points at 100% strength, even thou they are not at that state. Alongside, I have connection issues related to this, jumping from one AP to the other. Any ideas?
[15:23] <jrib> xevwork: check for screen sessions
[15:24] <xevwork> jrib: Nope.
[15:24] <theseb> help! i set number of desktops to 1 but ubuntu STILL have a COLUMN of workspaces
[15:24] <theseb> ???
[15:24] <theseb> is that normal?
[15:24] <xevwork> jrib: It's backgrounded... I'm just unable to figure out what the command to foreground the process again is...
[15:24] <mashbro> ikonia, OerHeks: thanks.
[15:25] <jrib> xevwork: what do you see in the output of "jobs"?
[15:25] <xevwork> jrib: Nothing.
[15:26] <jrib> xevwork: so why do you say it's backgrounded? :)
[15:27] <jrib> xevwork: what's the output of « screen -ls »
[15:27] <xevwork> jrib: dpkg doesn't use screen
[15:27] <liwiki> hi
[15:27] <xevwork> jrib: There are no screens running.
[15:28] <jrib> xevwork: ah, I thought you were doing a do-release-upgrade.  So you just ran a « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »?
[15:28] <xevwork> jrib: No I did do-release-upgrade
[15:28] <xevwork> jrib: During that process I got a message with the Y/I/N/O/D/Z options. I pressed Z
[15:28] <jrib> xevwork: that uses screen :/
[15:28] <ioio> dns vps22629.public.cloudvps.com
[15:29] <xevwork> jrib: Well darn, then it failed entirely.
[15:29] <ioio> dns vps22629.public.cloudvps.com
[15:29] <jrib> xevwork: though I think that hitting Z there would leave you in screen and just background it inside the screen session
[15:30] <jrib> xevwork: actually, maybe it just starts a new terminal and you just need to exit it -- I can't remember
[15:30] <xevwork> jrib: No screen at all, actually. And it doesn't even background the process.
[15:30] <xevwork> jrib: It just launches a terminal.
[15:30] <xevwork> That's really unclear and should be documented better.
[15:30] <jrib> xevwork: what ubuntu version are you upgrading from?
[15:31] <xevwork> jrib: It should say "Z: launch a shell to examine this situation" instead of "Z: background this process to examine the situation"
[15:31] <xevwork> jrib: I've got a few versions to upgrade.
[15:31] <jrib> xevwork: so exiting the shell returned you to the upgrade?
[15:31] <xevwork> jrib: Yes it did.
[15:31] <jrib> xevwork: yeah, should probably be re-worded
[15:33] <hero> 谁有空？
[15:33] <Martell> ...
[15:33] <auronandace> !zh | hero
[15:35] <basil_kurian_> Any idea how to get reports of custom commands on SAR ?
[15:35] <basil_kurian_>  like lsof| wc -l
[15:36] <jrib> basil_kurian_: what is SAR?
[15:36] <basil_kurian_> System Auditing and Reporting
[15:37] <basil_kurian_> http://linux.die.net/man/1/sar
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> basil_kurian_  ubuntu has atsar in the repos
[15:39] <trece8> hi. at nm-tool, I see all wireless access points at 100% strength, even thou they are not at that state. Alongside, I have connection issues related to this, jumping from one AP to the other. Any ideas?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !info atsar
[15:39] <TimothyA> k, tripwire is not what I was looking for
[15:40] <basil_kurian_> Does atsar got such features ?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> basil_kurian_  havent tried, you may want to explore it
[15:42] <basil_kurian_> ok, thanks
[15:43] <totimkopf> http://pastebin.com/RaNvSPk5 you guys notice anything funky with my /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[15:52] <Sokel> wut
[15:55] <oconnore> Does anyone know what would make my Ubuntu 12.04 box get "sticky" after a while. When I first boot up, everything is very snappy, but after an hour or so, even switching between tabs in terminal, opening the unity menu, or maximizing a window takes 1-2 seconds.
[15:56] <AresTheLion> Maybe a ram issue?
[15:56] <jrib> oconnore: check top
[15:57] <oconnore> AresTheLion: like, running out of ram? I have 6GB and 3GB is free.
[15:57] <oconnore> jrib: there is no significant CPU usage, the highest is Firefox with 3% of one of my 4 cores.
[15:57] <jrib> oconnore: and memory?
[15:57] <AresTheLion> oconnore, What is your setup? 4 by 4 sticks?
[15:58] <AresTheLion> did you custom build?
[15:58] <oconnore> jrib: 3/6GB used.
[15:58] <oconnore> AresTheLion: no, it's an off the shelf Dell T7500
[15:59] <AresTheLion> oconnore, Okay, well my guess would definitely be ram issues. the fact that you are also at 3/6 is suspicious. Do you ever get more than 3?
[15:59] <ncmccx> hello I have a noob question. I have a samba share that i can see from windows 7 but I cant copy to
[15:59] <jrib> oconnore: what's using the most memory?  Does killing it affect your machine's "stickiness"?  Is anything writing to the disk constantly?
[15:59] <lelouch> i recently installed ubuntu in my acer Aspire 5610Z but won't detect any Graphic card or vga
[15:59] <ncmccx> in smb.conf i set guest to yes
[16:00] <oconnore> AresTheLion: yeah, it's just not being loaded very heavily right now. It's not exactly 3GB, but 3333728k ~ 3GB
[16:00] <lelouch> i recently installed ubuntu in my acer Aspire 5610Z but won't detect any Graphic card or vga Any ideaaa
[16:01] <AresTheLion> lelouch, type sudo apt-get update
[16:01] <AresTheLion> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:01] <ncmccx> when i try to access files over smaba says do not have permission but i set permission for smb.conf guest yes
[16:01] <ncmccx> samba*
[16:01] <AresTheLion> oconnore, Is it just with unity?
[16:01] <lelouch> AresTheLion: Already try it and also add repository for intel but nothinf detected
[16:02] <AresTheLion> lelouch, are you running an NVIDIA card?
[16:02] <oconnore> jrib: what do you mean by killing my memory?
[16:02] <tryy3> what is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/colord/colord doing?
[16:02] <AresTheLion> tryy3, My guess is coloring something
[16:02] <jrib> oconnore: by "it", I meant the program using memory
[16:03] <tryy3> AresTheLion but i have shutdown gnome, does it mean i can kill that process?
[16:03] <kucuq> Hi, i want to use a bluethooth headset. The connections works with the applet, but it does not show up in the puseaudio manager
[16:03] <AresTheLion> tryy3, What do you mean exactly?
[16:03] <lelouch> AresTheLion: Well it CAME with the laptop integrat one Vga ...
[16:03] <kucuq> i see only the hdmi and the sound card there. puseaudio-module-bluetooth is installed
[16:03] <oconnore> jrib: there is no program using a significant amount of memory. The highest is compiz with 193MB.
[16:03] <AresTheLion> lelouch, let me get a video for you lelouch
[16:04] <jrib> oconnore: so how are you at 3GB?
[16:04] <AresTheLion> lelouch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
[16:04] <tryy3> AresTheLion iam trying to kill unessesary processes so i was wondering if that is a nessesary process or if i can kill it
[16:04] <lelouch> AresTheLion: gona watch it
[16:04] <AresTheLion> tryy3, Judging from the location, it sounds importaint. You can check if you install the synapse package manager
[16:04] <AresTheLion> you get get it through the software center
[16:05] <tryy3> AresTheLion what does synapse package manager do?
[16:05] <oconnore> AresTheLion: as a test I just logged out and logged back into Unity, and it is fast now.
[16:05] <AresTheLion> tryy3, It just lets you view all the packages on your system
[16:05] <oconnore> probably for another half hour or something
[16:05] <AresTheLion> oconnore, Well, are you using NVIDIA card?
[16:05] <oconnore> AresTheLion: yes
[16:05] <bazhang> !synaptic | AresTheLion
[16:06] <lelouch> AresTheLion: Hahhaha that doesn't help
[16:06] <tryy3> AresTheLion then i dont belive so, and i cant check on software center if there is no command for it, iam not home so i only got ssh and ftp access
[16:06] <AresTheLion> Long story short, NVIDIA is very unfriendly when it comes to the linux community. It's really hard for us to get anything from them up until recently
[16:06] <oconnore> jrib: I am using about 1-2GB, with a gig of disk cache/buffers.
[16:06] <AresTheLion> tryy3, I'm not sure then, it would only be a shot in the dark. if you really want to find out that would be the best way.
[16:07] <oconnore> AresTheLion: hmm, do you think nouveau would work better?
[16:07] <tryy3> AresTheLion oh ok
[16:07] <jrib> oconnore: ok, so what's using the 2GB?  Can you account for them?  You have very many programs open?
[16:07] <AresTheLion> oconnore, It's always worth a shot. I'm not a developer, just an experienced user. I use integrated graphics.
[16:08] <lelouch> Well any Idea what can i install for my laptop 512 ram and CPU 2.0 X2
[16:08] <AresTheLion> lelouch, pay attention to what jrib and oconnore are talking about. they have a similar issue (I believe its linked to your graphics card)
[16:08] <AresTheLion> brb breakfast
[16:09] <jrib> lelouch: oconnore is having an issue where his computer is sluggish after some time; not sure it's the same as your issue
[16:10] <oconnore> jrib: firefox is using between 200-700MB (199 now that I re-logged in). The JVM is using ~300MB. I don't think 2GB is very high. What is a typical base memory usage for 12.04 with unity?
[16:11] <bekks> oconnore: 100% of your RAM. You have it to be used.
[16:11] <oconnore> bekks: what what?
[16:11] <jrib> oconnore: I don't know what base memory usage is for a vanilla unity install
[16:11] <bekks> oconnore: Unused RAM is useless.
[16:11] <blackhole> how to put side launcher to buttom?
[16:11] <bekks> oconnore: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[16:12] <lelouch> jrib: Well mine works so slow after upgrade from 11.10 it's like i can't open software center  and block every while
[16:12] <oconnore> bekks: Oh, I agree.
[16:12] <jrib> lelouch: check top output
[16:12] <oconnore> bekks: no, jrib was wondering if there was some process gone awry I think. We're not worried about memory usage itself, but clearly something is misbehaving on my system.
[16:13] <bekks> oconnore: Plan start of firefox takes 234MB here.
[16:13] <bekks> *plain even
[16:13]  * jrib looks at his 28MB of memory usage
[16:14] <jrib> oconnore: do your issues go away when you log out and log back in?
[16:14] <lelouch> jrib: my ram works well
[16:14] <oconnore> jrib: yes
[16:14] <bekks> jrib: You're facing people mixing up VIRT, RES and SHR :)
[16:14] <oconnore> bekks: no I'm not.
[16:14] <bekks> oconnore: But I was - my firefox takes 39MB in deed.
[16:15] <jrib> lelouch: you should check for high cpu usage or high memory usage in top.  Do you see anything like that?
[16:16] <TJ-> lelouch: There is a known bug with software-center appearing to stall when it opens, whilst it fetches online content and checks packages locally.
[16:16] <Okid> Hi All. can someone point me to the correct channel for Java issues on Ubuntu Dekstop 12?
[16:17] <gordonjcp> Okid: probably here; just ask your question
[16:17] <lelouch> jrib: well it's like verry high both cpu
[16:17] <bekks> lelouch: Then you could pastebin the output of: ps -aux
[16:17] <bekks> !paste | lelouch
[16:18] <Okid> thanks gordonjcp. I'm a newbiew and downloaded the latest Java version but don't understand how to install it. Don't see script to run.
[16:18] <Okid> extracted it but don't see how to install it and add it as a plug in
[16:18] <bekks> Okid: Why dont you just use the latest version of OpenJDK?
[16:18] <dan6796> hello
[16:18] <lelouch> i'm working in 2 difrent pc ...
[16:19] <Okid> bkks...sure it works. just use apt-get install OpenJDK?
[16:19] <bekks> Okid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[16:20] <witeds> i am having some issues with nvidia drivers i recently installed the nvidia 304 driver over 173 from nvidia to test a 8400GS and now when i try to put it back to 173 for my Quadro FX 1300 i am only able to reach cli the Desktop Manager wont start
[16:24] <apple-iBookG4> heyz!  I have a broadcom4306. I installed b43 drivers, and it works. EXCEPT the tray icon, which remains always "off", in the sense that the signal's power strenght results always ZERO even if it's at the maximum
[16:25] <apple-iBookG4> in a few words, the icon isn't active, isn't really "connected" with the right system service to appurate what the signal strenght is
[16:25] <apple-iBookG4> What do you suggest?
[16:29] <dreambox> Hi, I installed Ubuntu server x64 and then... Kubuntu package on top. I wish to move away from KDE and go to Gnome3 or Unity, what should I do to keep the system as clean as possible from stuff?  (while not losing my Nvidia drivers and so on..)
[16:30] <dreambox> (it took me a while to get this thing running so..)
[16:31] <apple-iBookG4> dreambox: first you should ask yourself which packages/metapackages have you installed to put up kde
[16:32] <dreambox> apple-iBookG4: the kubuntu package..
[16:33] <dreambox> apple-iBookG4: and some Nvidia related K-stuff.
[16:33] <OerHeks> !puregnome
[16:33] <dreambox> OerHeks: thanks
[16:34] <dreambox> OerHeks:  the problem is before installing Kubuntu package I had the Ubuntu SERVER version therefore I don't think I'll have Unity.
[16:35] <jrib> dreambox: make sure you install ubuntu-desktop to get unity
[16:35] <OerHeks> follow that after installing ubuntu-desktop/unity
[16:35] <jrib> dreambox: in theory you should be able to remove the kubuntu package you installed and just use apt-get autoremove
[16:35] <dreambox> so I can actually install ubuntu desktop, get unity, try it out see how it works out
[16:36] <jrib> dreambox: yep, no harm in keeping both
[16:36] <OerHeks> sure
[16:36] <dreambox> well let's go then :) I saw Unity is a bit more slick
[16:36] <dreambox> although the damn buttons are on the left :)
[16:36] <dreambox> damn Unity UX designer :-)
[16:37] <apple-iBookG4> dreambox: then you should just purge them
[16:37] <dreambox> do you also know how I install GNOME 3 ?
[16:37] <chatman> dreambox: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[16:37] <bazhang> dreambox, it's already gnome3. perhaps you mean gnome-shell
[16:37] <dreambox> bazhang:  yeah, indeed, gnome-shell :)
[16:38] <dreambox> Thanks all.
[16:38] <bazhang> gnome-panel for the 'classic' look
[16:40] <zeromatrix> whats better fedora or ubuntu in your opinion
[16:40] <bekks> !ot | zeromatrix
[16:40] <zeromatrix> okay
[16:40] <streulma> anyone had Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 9.1 / 9.2 ?
[16:41] <zeromatrix> whats something kewl i could do with grep
[16:41] <zeromatrix> im trying to learn linux
[16:41] <bekks> !ot | zeromatrix
[16:41] <zeromatrix> isnt grep a ubuntu command?
[16:42] <viktor> rofl
[16:42] <chatman> zeromatrix: not specific to ubuntu
[16:42] <zeromatrix> sure it is
[16:42] <istevenmon> is there any dababase modelation software? something like power designer or erwin?
[16:42] <chatman> zeromatrix: this is just a support channel
[16:43] <chatman> zeromatrix: no, grep is a basic linux command
[16:43] <sayres> I install vbox 4.2 ,but how can drag and drop between host and gust?
[16:43] <zeromatrix> okay so you are more about the desktop
[16:43] <chatman> zeromatrix: no, this channel is here to help people with issues
[16:43] <zeromatrix> k thx i'll go read the guidelines
[16:44] <zeromatrix> or just stay quite and learn about the channel
[16:44] <chatman> zeromatrix: you don't seem to have an issue, you just seem rather bored
[16:44] <chatman> !terminal | zeromatrix
[16:44] <zeromatrix> my issue is learning so i'll just read what everyone says
[16:44] <timini> whats the name of the ssh deamon?
[16:45] <jrib> timini: sshd
[16:45] <chatman> timini: sshd
[16:45] <timini> thanks
[16:48] <saby> is there is a search function in apt-get ?
[16:48] <saby> something like yum search <name>
[16:48] <bazhang> saby, apt-cache search package
[16:48] <saby> or pacman -Ss <name>
[16:48] <jrib> !apt | saby
[16:48] <saby> ah thanks bazhang
[16:49] <sayres>  I install vbox 4.2 ,but how can drag and drop between host and gust?
[16:50] <bekks> sayres: Please see my answer in #vbox
[16:50] <spat> does ubuntu 12.04 have some firewall enabled by default?
[16:51] <chatman> !ufw | spat
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> sayres, you can use a shared file.
[16:51] <bazhang> !iptable > spat
[16:51] <bazhang> +s
[16:52] <sayres> wilee-nilee: dude i konw can use share but i use this new feature
[16:52] <bazhang> spat you can use gufw if you need a gui for ufw
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> sayres, Dude if you show an attitude no one will help you.
[16:52] <bekks> sayres: vbox does not implement any drag&drop for files.
[16:53] <spat> bazhang: sorry not my question. my problem is that I set up ssh access on an ubuntu box that worked fine over wifi but now I cant reach it
[16:54] <spat> so does ubuntu 12.04 destop have default firewalling enabled
[16:54] <spat> or enabled by default
[16:54] <sayres>  bekks: mean virtualbox dosent support drag and drop?
[16:58] <bekks> sayres: Thats exactky what I just said.
[16:58] <bekks> sayres: And thats why I told you about the clipboard sharing for textual content in #vbox
[17:01] <Almindor> hello
[17:01] <lnxslck> hello
[17:01] <sayres> bekks: sorry ,cant i drag and drop files between host & guest?
[17:01] <baltazar> hi there
[17:01] <Almindor> I'm running LTS 10.04 server and we've started getting this error: ImportError: cannot import name urandom
[17:01] <Almindor> it's a python issue known at 12.04 with virtualenv
[17:01] <bekks> sayres: For the third time. Thats exactly what I said.
[17:01] <Almindor> but this is 10.04 and we don't use virtualenv at all
[17:01] <sayres> bekks: ok dude tnx
[17:02] <Almindor> doing basic "from os import urandom" does this
[17:02] <Almindor> any ideas what to do? it's blocking our deployment platform
[17:04] <tryingUbuntu> hello all/.  I tried earlier with no luck.. i have 12.04 Docky and a weather app installed but all I can get is the blue questionmark.  it isnt connecting???  I have a pic of it but pastebin is busy
[17:04] <tryingUbuntu> how to fix it
[17:05] <ovatsug> hello, I'm trying to use libsoup, but I can't find any documentation on how to convert WSDL file to stubs, so I can use it on my program, any ideas?
[17:09] <xibalba> i just found a process called 'whoopsie'? just say it in my system, no friggin idea what it is
[17:10] <jrib> xibalba: apt-cache show whoopsie
[17:10] <DJones> xibalba: Thats a package that submits crash reports
[17:10] <xibalba> oh cool thanks
[17:11] <xibalba> thought my box was pwn'd
[17:12] <Almindor> why is there no urandom in /usr/lib/python2.6/os.py????
[17:13] <Almindor> and why was it broken with a security update on 10.04 LTS..
[17:13] <anon> hi
[17:13] <digitalirony> hey guys
[17:14] <digitalirony> So, this strange issue has started to occur. Ever so often, autofs seems to just stop responding. On 12.04
[17:14] <digitalirony> I can't remount or anything. anything at all attempting to access the autofs file just hangs. A reboot fixes it, but its rather annoying
[17:15] <digitalirony> I have home directories automount over NFS
[17:16] <digitalirony> so the users are having quite some issues, and maybe the issue is with NFS itself, I am not sure at this point, just wanted to see if it was a common or known issue
[17:17] <tomtiger11> I'm wondering how i can install and run programs locally using a ltsp booted computer
[17:20] <^GeCk0^> hi, when i set up my microphone my settings get lost after reboot. is there any bugfix ?
[17:21] <bekks> ^GeCk0^: You just asked the same in the german channel. ;)
[17:21] <^GeCk0^> they trollin
[17:21] <meberhart> maybe his other microphone speaks German
[17:24] <kyubotsu> posting the SAME question is not an issue. posting in multiple channels at the same time is. just to clarify
[17:24] <roasted_> Question - In "Simple Scan" is there a way to set the default scanner? My Epson comes up with two entries, one long text entry saying "Epson Workforce 435 Scanner blah blah blah blah" but that doesn't seem to work. In the drop down list there's Epson PID 0870, and this works. I want the PID entry to be default. Can I somehow adjust it?
[17:25] <kyubotsu> there is a factoid though..
[17:25] <kyubotsu> !crossposting
[17:27] <ubuntu-help> Hey guys.. I have an old php 5.3 install... I just installed php 5.4.3 via apt php5 -v shows its there... how to I remove or tell ubuntu to use the php5 install?
[17:28] <DJones> roasted_: Maybe from the menu -> Documents -> Preferences    Has an option for scan source (I only have one source, so can't tell if it changes the default)
[17:28] <intrepid003> well hello there :D
[17:29] <roasted_> DJones: yes, I can select it there. What I'd like is for it to DEFAULT to a specific scanner. It always defaults to the one that doesn't work for me.
[17:30] <thufir_> I can't get sound working after a clean install.  I think the drivers are wrong:  https://gist.github.com/3841172   how do I know what drivers I have and how do I install the correct ones?
[17:30] <xevwork> Does anyone have a howto for installing 12.04 onto RAID10?
[17:30] <intrepid003> i'm looking to set up a home web server, which i've done before and can stumble my way through, but i was wondering if anyone has experience setting up a mumble server, and if i can set up said mumble server on the same machine as the web server
[17:30] <tryy3> hi iam trying to kill a process (its a minecraft server process) iam trying to do it with htop, i tryed to do 'sudo htop' i tryed to press tree and kill the top process, and its not working, i press the kill button, then i press 'Sigterm' then i press enter and it wont go away! please help me?
[17:32] <joebuntu> so is syncing an iphone 4 on ubuntu possible yet?
[17:32] <joebuntu> still doesnt work with rhythmbox
[17:33] <DJones> roasted_: I can't see any way of changing/setting a default scanner
[17:34] <roasted_> DJones: I hear ya. :( I was hoping maybe there was a config file I could swap around, ya know?
[17:34] <thufir_> how do I see what drivers I have for sound?
[17:34] <midnightcoffee> how i can i open a duplicate terminal, one that has the same system path?
[17:34] <bekks> tryy3: Please provide the output of "ps -ef" in a pastebin.
[17:35] <tryy3> bekks http://pastebay.net/1149324 i think the process have frozen too, the time+ isn't changing
[17:36] <overclucker> tryy3: ps -ef | grep craftbukkit.jar (or whatever you have it named as) grab th PID and do kill -9 PID
[17:39] <ciao> list
[17:40] <bekks> !list | ciao
[17:41] <tryy3> thanks overclucker
[17:42] <ubuntu-help> Hey guys.. I have an old php 5.3 install... I just installed php 5.4.3 via apt php5 -v shows its there... how to I remove or tell ubuntu to use the php5 install?
[17:42] <bekks> ubuntu-help: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[17:43] <soobeom> hi there...
[17:43] <ubuntu-help> lucid i believe
[17:43] <bekks> ubuntu-help: lsb_release -sc will tell you :)
[17:43] <ubuntu-help> bekks: yes lucid
[17:45] <sesshomaru> hello, is there a way to downmix my audio output to monoaural?
[17:48] <upmauro> please help, i'm a idiot and executed ( rm -rf * ) in /etc/apache2, after that i tried reinstall apache2 package but when i start service, this message raised .: 51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars, what should i do ?
[17:50] <thufir_> how do you know whether you have the mp3 codecs?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> thufir_: can you play MP3s?
[17:50] <Coolternet> salut
[17:50] <thufir_> gordonjcp: no.   https://gist.github.com/3841172
[17:51] <Coolternet> i use Gnome IRC ...
[17:51] <Coolternet> anyone can help me with permission of Ubuntu ?
[17:51] <ardchoille> Coolternet: what is the problem?
[17:51] <Coolternet> i have a fresh install and i can't modify anything... my message is '' you don't have permission ''
[17:51] <thufir_> I'm on a very basic system, not alot of ram or cpu, so I'm trying not to use the GUI package manager
[17:52] <Coolternet> i need to copy and paste my folder to var/www/
[17:52] <Myrtti> Coolternet: what do you want to modify?
[17:52] <ardchoille> !sudo | Coolternet
[17:52] <thufir_> Coolternet: can you show a screenshot, or, even better, use the terminal?  paste to a pastebin.
[17:52] <Coolternet> yeah i use sudo su and i cna modify anithing but i can't have access with my account...
[17:52] <Coolternet> yeah wait
[17:53] <gatuus> Coolternet: sudo su
[17:53] <ardchoille> Coolternet: use sudo -i instead of sudo su
[17:53] <thufir_> he just said that sudo works.
[17:53] <bazhang> gatuus, dont advise that here please
[17:53] <abejas> clues for using/exporting *.mdb files (Microsoft Office Database) to something valid to LibreOffice?
[17:53] <Coolternet> http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1403/capturedu20121005135256.png
[17:53] <abejas>  I installed mdbtools
[17:54] <abejas> but nothing happened apparently
[17:55] <Coolternet> i have use cp /media/D27431CF7431B6D7/BKP7/UwAmp -r /var/www/
[17:55] <Coolternet> for copy paste my directory from my windows folder (UwAmp)
[17:55] <gordonjcp> thufir_: that looks wrong
[17:55] <Coolternet> and when i try to go to open folder .. i have this error
[17:55] <escott> abejas, you are better off extracting the data to a real RDBMS. I wouldn't trust anything that claims it can read an mdb file
[17:55] <rento> g
[17:56] <gordonjcp> abejas: you can use mdbtools to pick apart .mdb files
[17:56] <thufir_> gordonjcp: yeah, I think I have the wrong version of mplayer or something.  or, no mp3 support.  I have no sound after a clean install.
[17:56] <ardchoille> Coolternet: you need to use sudo cp
[17:56] <gordonjcp> abejas: there's a kind of half-assed SQL engine that kinda-sorta works
[17:56] <gordonjcp> abejas: don't use it; extract the data and stuff it into another DB engine like sqlite
[17:56] <gordonjcp> thufir_: I just realised I'm using mplayer not mplayer2
[17:57] <gordonjcp> thufir_: is that the packaged mplayer2?
[17:57] <abejas> So, do I extract it using mdbtools?
[17:57] <gordonjcp> abejas: yes
[17:57] <thufir_> right, I was curious about that.  right now I've removed all mplayer stuff.
[17:57] <abejas> I'll try it
[17:57] <Coolternet> how can i have root right on my main account ?
[17:57] <thufir_> gordonjcp: it's ubuntu 12.04.  should i use mplayer or mplayer2 or ..?
[17:58] <ardchoille> Coolternet: use sudo, you don't need to be in the root account
[17:58] <gordonjcp> abejas: handy hint - if you want a really *quick* way to get it going, look at dumping the schema and turning it into Django models
[17:58] <escott> abejas, try something like http://www.bullzip.com/products/a2m/info.php
[17:58] <gatuus> Here's an article about differents types of "sudos su's": http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[17:58] <Coolternet> yeah but i can't have access to my pasted folder ...
[17:58] <gordonjcp> abejas: in an afternoon you can have your old Access database in a nice webby database ;-)
[17:58] <thufir_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3  says to install gstreamer, but that's for 11.x, not 12.04 ubuntu.
[17:58] <ardchoille> Coolternet: I don't think you quite understand sudo. please read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:59] <gordonjcp> thufir_: why is it trying to connect to /dev/dsp and not pulse?
[17:59] <upmauro> please help, i'm a idiot and executed ( rm -rf * ) in /etc/apache2, after that i tried reinstall apache2 package but when i start service, this message raised .: 51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars, what should i do ?
[17:59] <Westz> okay, does anyone here run, or know a lot about, Asus 1215n or Optimus/ION2?
[17:59] <thufir_> gordonjcp: I don't know.  that's not normal?  I need to install pulseaudio, perhaps?
[17:59] <Coolternet> okay how cna i change right of any folder ?
[18:00] <gordonjcp> thufir_: it should be there, unless you started from ubuntu-server?
[18:00] <thufir_> I started from ubuntu-server.  pulseaudio shows as installed.
[18:00] <ardchoille> Coolternet: you don't need to change the rights, you're making things more difficult. use sudo to perform admin work.
[18:00] <ubuntu-help> bekks: did I lose you
[18:01] <Westz> i've got an Asus 1215n with Lucid that has an Intel 6230 wireless/bluetooth combo card. i can't connect to the internet however, not even with an ethernet cable
[18:01] <Coolternet> yeah but how can i modify my website if i dont have root right ?
[18:01] <ardchoille> Coolternet: I don't think you quite understand sudo. please read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> Westz, This channel works as you addressing your problem in the form of a question.
[18:01] <thufir_> Coolternet: is your account a user account?  do you have suo priveleges?  go to settings and post a screenshot of your account privileges.
[18:01] <overclucker> tryy3: yw. the problem is that craftbukkit doesn't handle SIGTERM, the default kill signal, so you have to use SIGKILL instead (kill -9)
[18:01] <ardchoille> Coolternet: sudo will allow you to do what you need
[18:01] <Kireji> ubuntu do I have to reboot after updating "linux-server"? (running Lucid)
[18:02] <tryy3> overclucker oh ok
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> Westz, Hehe I see that you have my mistake
[18:02] <Coolternet> yea i know :) but can i use root acces when i need to modify my webpage ?
[18:02] <ardchoille> thufir_: he previously stated that sudo works
[18:02] <ardchoille> Coolternet: yes, use sudo when you need to access it
[18:02] <thufir_> ardchoille: I thought he'd said that it worked with sudo.
[18:03] <Westz> What packages are necessary to get an Asus 1215n or an Intel 6230 wireless/bluetooth combo card connected to the internet
[18:03] <Westz> *?
[18:03] <ardchoille> thufir_: he's trying to work around sudo instead of using it. I'm trying to show him that sudo will do what he needs but he's making things more difficult for himself
[18:03] <Coolternet> how...
[18:03]  * thufir_ scratches his head.
[18:03] <ardchoille> Coolternet: if you understand how sudo works you will see that it will allow you to do what you're asking
[18:04] <thufir_> Coolternet: don't use root.  use sudo.  problem solved..
[18:04] <ubuntu-help> Hey guys.. I have an old php 5.3 install... I just installed php 5.4.3 via apt php5 -v shows its there... how to I remove or tell ubuntu to use the php5 install? - Lucid install.
[18:04] <Westz> my ethernet connection isn't showing up at all. as if i never plugged it in. it works perfectly in wondoze.
[18:04] <ardchoille> thufir_: thank you :)
[18:04] <gatuus> Coolternet: Read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[18:04] <Westz> and the 6230 card isn't active. no drivers whatsoever.
[18:05] <thufir_> Westz: you need to see if the card is detected or not.  is it built into the mb? do you just have the one NIC?
[18:05] <ardchoille> gatuus: very good link there
[18:06] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  can you please *pastebin*   the output of apt-cache policy php5  again PASTEBIN please
[18:06] <gordonjcp> thufir_: sounds like it's installed but not running for some reason
[18:06] <thufir_> Westz: sounds like you have two nics.  one built-in, one which you added.
[18:06] <Tomwq> Hi
[18:07] <thufir_> gordonjcp: yea, I wonder whether he needs to modprobl.
[18:07] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/qaLXFyT8
[18:07] <Westz> thufir_, yes. one is a mini ci-e card, one is the built in ethernet
[18:07] <Westz> but neither works
[18:07] <gordonjcp> thufir_: yeah.  Does it show up in ps ax | grep pulse?
[18:07] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  what about     dpkg-query -l | awk '/php/ {print $2}'
[18:08] <thufir_> Westz: not sure the details, but modprob can show you which modules the kernel loads.  you might need to add some modules and reboot.
[18:08] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/5CxsqCa6
[18:08] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  pastes are not showing up try http://paste.ubuntu.com/ please
[18:09] <bobweaver> could be my connection
[18:09] <thufir_> gordonjcp: yes, it shows in ps ax | grep pulse:    1403 ?        S<l    0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[18:09] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262406/
[18:09] <Kireji> ubuntu do I have to reboot after updating "linux-server"? (running Lucid)
[18:09] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  sudo apt-get install php5
[18:10] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   then restart services or reboot
[18:10] <thufir_> Westz: this might help: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[18:11] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  this should put you up to the ppa that you have installed (ondrej)
[18:12] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  aka 5.4.6-2~lucid+1 0
[18:12] <thufir_> Westz: actually, not, nm.
[18:14] <thufir_> gordonjcp: is pulseaudio working correctly, do you think?
[18:15] <blackhole> help me how to restore boot creen on ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> !details > blackhole
[18:17] <Westz> thufir_: any ideas? i just popped a USB wireless card in and it's working, so i can download packages, but i don't know what i need; this laptop has only ever known windoze 7
[18:17] <sesshomaru> hello, is there a way to downmix my audio output to monoaural?
[18:18] <Odra> Hey, I seem to have a problem with ubuntu/gtk
[18:18] <blackhole> i just installed plymouth and choose a boot screen themes but nothing happen and the color display is light blue and some text
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> Westz, The channel asks that you spell OS correctly using a misspell of windows is not really appreciated.
[18:18] <Odra> If Present() won't deiconify a window on ubuntu, whose fault is it?
[18:18] <urlwolf> how would you debug this x crash (.xsession-errors) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262414/
[18:19] <bobweaver> blackhole,   you want to change to a different plymoth ?
[18:19] <diverdude> i have installed a program i would like to run when the system boots. How can i make it do that?
[18:19] <pbuckley> upstart
[18:19] <blackhole> bobweaver, yah..
[18:19] <pbuckley>  /etc/rc?.d/
[18:19] <Odra> diverdude: Startup applications?
[18:19] <pbuckley>  /etc/rc.local
[18:19] <bobweaver> blackhole,  ok there is to things to do open terminal
[18:19] <blackhole> bobweaver, and then
[18:20] <bobweaver> blackhole,  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[18:20] <bobweaver> pick the one that you want then .....
[18:20] <Westz> HA. ##ubuntu is almost as bad as #arch now.... actually, they'll probably be able to handle this better...
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> diverdude, You can add things to startup applications would this work for you?
[18:21] <bobweaver> blackhole,  after that is done do   sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymouth
[18:21] <bobweaver> blackhole,  make sure you match them up then .......
[18:21] <tryy3> is there anyway i can check the internet connection/speed from ssh? (in ubuntu)
[18:21] <bobweaver> blackhole,  then  ....        sudo update-initramfs -u
[18:22] <blackhole> bobweaver, how about to restore it back to original boot screen
[18:22] <bobweaver> blackhole,  then you are good to go
[18:22] <bobweaver> blackhole,  pick Ubuntu . I will take screenshot plz hold
[18:22] <blackhole> bobweaver, ok thanks man
[18:24] <bobweaver> blackhole,  see   http://imagebin.org/231018   make sure that both text and default are set to *Ubuntu*   just pick the number that corasonds to Ubuntu in my case in the screen shot it is 2
[18:25] <thufir_> Westz: all I know is that modprobe can fix this for you.  if you restate your question, a more knowledgeable person may help.
[18:25] <bobweaver> Westz,  do you have internet connection at all ?
[18:26] <msangi> i am having a problem with my modem, it keeps disconnecting at night and after some google-fu, nothing is popping out as a solution. may I please get some help. here is the portion of syslog relating to this error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262432/
[18:26] <Westz> bobweaver: not through the default hardware, i have a USB card from my neighbor attached for downloading packages, but that's it
[18:26] <blackhole> bobweaver, thanks man u save my day hehehe
[18:26] <Westz> *usb wifi card
[18:26] <diverdude> wilee-nilee: sure, isn't it possible to do like apache does? Like have the /etc/init.d/apache start | stop | restart ?
[18:27] <bobweaver> Westz,  Ok cool please open your terminal and enter in     lspci -vnn  && lsmod       then PASTEBIN that  you can use paste.ubuntu.com plz the bot will tell you more
[18:27] <bobweaver> !pastebin | Westz
[18:28] <bobweaver> diverdude,  that is old and not used anymore .   try    sudo services apache2 restart
[18:28] <diverdude> bobweaver: ahh ok. can i also do that for haproxy?
[18:28] <bobweaver> not sure diverdude
[18:29] <diverdude> bobweaver: how can it be done?
[18:29] <bobweaver> diverdude,  not sure . but could you explain what you are doing ?
[18:30] <diverdude> bobweaver: i just have this program installed called haproxy which is a load balancer, and in order to start it i need to do $haproxy -f path/to/config
[18:30] <Westz> jeez, i hate comcast. they keep wanting to installmonitoring software on my computer, and i keep having to switch my card's default DNS to google's
[18:30] <diverdude> bobweaver: but i want it to run automatically instead when computer booots
[18:31] <bobweaver> diverdude,  sudo services          controls all services that are running on the machine   like  if I was running tor instead of  /etc/init.d/tor stop   I use  sudo services tor stop
[18:31] <diverdude> bobweaver: ah ok. so somehow i need to register haproxy as a service
[18:31] <PaSsI_> switching between my firefox tab takes much time any solutions to make it work faster?
[18:31] <thufir_> what line do I put in sources so that I can do this?  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonfree
[18:32] <bobweaver> oh diverdude  I am sorry I know lamp but not that well would ask maybe in #ubuntu-server   if you get no help here
[18:32] <diverdude> bobweaver: its not lamp
[18:32] <bobweaver> diverdude,  see :)
[18:33] <Westz> bobweaver, pastebin.com/76BNSsT1
[18:33] <ubuntu-help> bobweaver: seems working now jus tneed the suhosing to work :)
[18:33] <ubuntu-help> thanks.
[18:33] <ubuntu-help> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20100525+lfs/suhosin.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20100525+lfs/suhosin.so: undefined symbol: core_globals_id in Unknown on line 0 PHP 5.4.6-2~lucid+1 (cli) (built: Aug 30 2012 14:28:54)
[18:33] <msangi> hey, could i please get some help, got a modem problem which keeps disconnecting. here is the log of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262432/
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> msangi, If someone knows they will probably answer so crack a cold one and enjoy the time here. ;)
[18:35] <bobweaver> ubuntu-help,  did you upgrade ?  and also did you restart php ? also lets see   apt-cache policy php5-suhosin       Plz use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <bobweaver> Westz,  I can not see that paste just tries to load but does not. Please use Paste.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <Westz> I'll try that, one moment
[18:37] <bobweaver> thanks Westz
[18:37] <msangi> wilee-nilee: ok, have some vodka in the freezer for just an occasion. thanks
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> msangi, hehe that will work. ;)
[18:38] <Westz> no, thank you. paste.ubuntu.com/1262450
[18:39] <kyubotsu> ubuntu doesn't quite advocate for use of drugs and alcohol though.. keep it family friendly folks
[18:41] <kyubotsu> on a side note.. you can be more "social" @ #ubuntu-offtopic if you insist
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, I thought he needed to clean some hardware. ;)
[18:42] <Westz> ROFL "clean some hardware" just remember, there's no shell in which to enter "apt-get install new-liver"
[18:42] <msangi> will do kyubotsu, have to open the office tomorrow anyway.
[18:43] <Tomwq> I have a question, is the Nvidia 6100 supported on 12.04?
[18:43] <Tomwq> Geforce*
[18:43] <KM0201> Westz: lol, i don't know what that meant, but i chuckled
[18:43] <bekks> !hcl | Tomwq
[18:43] <KM0201> TomW2: i would think so... I had an nvidia 7x that works quite well.
[18:44] <KM0201> also had a 5900 in another machine, that worked flawlessly.
[18:44] <PaSsI_> please tell me about virtual box
[18:44] <Tomwq> I have to boot the computer in nomodeset
[18:44] <PaSsI_> i want to install win 7 on it
[18:44] <KM0201> Tomwq: did you install the nvidia driver?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> PaSsI_, ask in #vbox this is ubuntu support
[18:45] <Tomwq> one sec let me check
[18:45] <KM0201> PaSsI_: you'll need to install virtualbox, then get a copy of Win 7.. then install it there just like you would on another computer
[18:45] <msangi> Tomwq: try installing the driver from additional drivers. should work well enough
[18:45] <PaSsI_> KM0201, thanks a lot
[18:45] <Tomwq> uh what exactly is Xorg.conf.d
[18:45] <PaSsI_> wilee-nilee, sure i d keep that in mind
[18:46] <KM0201> Tomwq: where are you getting that?
[18:46] <Tomwq> I was looking through the forums and a gude talks about xorg
[18:46] <bobweaver> Westz,  can we see    rfkill list all  && uname -r \
[18:46] <bobweaver> bargh
[18:47] <bobweaver> Westz,  can we see    rfkill list all  && uname -r
[18:47] <KM0201> ok, first..don't try to ask questions here and then talk about what you're seeing on forums, unless they directly relate... quite often, when you're looking in multiple places for an answer, you start trying "everything" and you can't fix a problem should it arise
[18:47] <Westz> sure, give me a moment. this wireless card is 802.11b
[18:47] <KM0201> Tomwq: first, go to the additional drivers utility.. and open it
[18:47] <Tomwq> okay
[18:48] <KM0201> in the additional driver manager, do you see the nvidia driver available? (there's two or 3 i think)
[18:49] <Tomwq> yes I see it
[18:49] <Westz> paste.ubuntu.com/1262467
[18:49] <Westz> for bobweaver
[18:49] <KM0201> Tomwq: i think one of them is "recommended"
[18:49] <KM0201> highlight it and install it
[18:49] <Tomwq> I will try to install that
[18:49] <Tomwq> thanks
[18:49] <KM0201> i'm not 100% sure this will fix your nomodeset prob, but it hopefully will
[18:49] <Tomwq> I have one question, is unity going to be able to run once I get the right drivers?
[18:50] <KM0201> Tomwq: after you do that, you'll need to reboot, then configure the driver in nvidia-settings
[18:50] <KM0201> Tomwq: i would certainly think so
[18:50] <bobweaver> Westz,  what is  the output of     uname -r
[18:50] <Tomwq> what is the terminal command for the nvidia-settings?
[18:50] <jordanm> nvidia-settings
[18:51] <KM0201> Tomwq: install the driver, let ti install, then reboot, then there will be a gui tool for nvidia-settings.. you don't have to run it from command line
[18:51] <Westz> besides the 2.6.32-38-generic
[18:51] <Darkasakerionz> Hi!, is there any way to connect a machine tought openvpn in a remote location, and listen a port tought the server's openvpn ip?
[18:51] <Westz> scratch the "besides that"
[18:51] <Tomwq> ok thanks for the help!
[18:51] <KM0201> don't make stuff harder than it needs to be
[18:51] <Westz> do i need to update the kernel then?
[18:52] <msangi> Tomwq: when you install the driver from the additional driver utility, it will run the nvidia-settings command and create a xorg config file. so just install the driver.
[18:52] <KM0201> true, but if you want to configure it further (i imagine most do).. then you'd use the nvidia-settings tool
[18:53] <bobweaver> thanks Westz  , ok this is what I see. you are going to need cmpat wireless to get this things going so the first things is to install the headers for you kerenl    so    sudo apt-get install linux-headers-[uname\ -r]     then tell use when that is installed thanks
[18:55] <Westz> beautiful, i'm running that as we speak.
[18:55] <escott> Darkasakerionz, probably but you have to explain what you want to do more clearly
[18:56] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:56] <Darkasakerionz> escott, I have 1 root-server and 1 vps, and I want a server running in my root-server, but listenning with the ip of my vps
[18:56] <bobweaver> Westz,  now open a new tab in the terminal  shift+ctrl+t    then enter in  cd ~/Desktop/  &&  wget http://www.orbit-lab.org/kernel/compat-wireless-2.6-stable/v2.6.32/compat-wireless-2.6.32.16.tar.bz2
[18:57] <escott> Darkasakerionz, set up an ssh tunnel, or reverse tunnel and bind it to that port
[18:57] <ohzie> Hello, everyone
[18:57] <ohzie> Is there a way to get ubuntu to not group up my windows in alt+tab?
[18:57] <Darkasakerionz> escott, but, I wanna to redirect all the ports
[18:57] <forgotmynick> hello
[18:57] <escott> Darkasakerionz, ok, multiple tunnels then
[18:58] <msangi> KM0201: i didn't know that, i might want to change a couple of things. thanks
[18:58] <thufir_> if mplayer is saying:  Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available.  see https://gist.github.com/3841172, then I need to add non free to sources?  what line do I add to sources to get mpg123?
[18:58] <Westz> wonderful, running
[18:59] <forgotmynick> i've changed my graphics card and when i boot in, i can see the ubuntu login screen in the full 1920x1080 resolution but after entering the password, it just shows the background, not gnome. I can't right click but the mouse does move and caps lock works. There is no disk activity and I can access tty. Please advise?
[18:59] <msangi> also, could someone point me to an opencv channel. got some ridiculous compilation errors that i need help with.
[18:59] <Westz> okay, got compat
[18:59] <BrianBlaze> did you ever know that you're my hero?
[19:01] <root_> hello!!
[19:01] <root_> can anyone tell me what kind of chat is this?
[19:01] <ardchoille> root_: ubuntu support chanel
[19:01] <jordanm> ubuntu community support
[19:01] <escott> forgotmynick, more than likely the compositor isn't working because you dont have GLX try unity-2d or gnome-panel instead of unity/gnome-shell
[19:02] <kyubotsu> !topic | root_
[19:02] <root_> ???????
[19:02] <BrianBlaze> lol
[19:03] <bobweaver> Westz,  cd Desktop  && tar -xf compat-wireless-2.6.32.16.tar.bz2 && cd  compat-wireless-2.6.32.16   &&  ./scripts/driver-select           then      make    then   sudo make install
[19:03] <bobweaver> Westz,  that should take care of you ethernet
[19:04] <forgotmynick> escott i'm in, thank you
[19:05] <Westz> aaaaah, compiling packages.... oh how i missed you...
[19:07] <acolytetojippity> morning folks.  I have a quick question, does anyone here use the Cinammon desktop environment?
[19:07] <bekks> acolytetojippity: It isnt supported on Ubuntu.
[19:08] <acolytetojippity> really?  it has a PPA and such, and te cinammon website has a Ubuntu download section
[19:09] <acolytetojippity> I was mostly looking to find out how to install something from a PPA.  I think i added the PPA correctly, and ran sudo apt-get update
[19:09] <bekks> acolytetojippity: It is provided by a PPA, which isnt part of the official Ubuntu distribution.
[19:09] <acolytetojippity> but past that...i have no idea what to do -_-'
[19:09] <bekks> acolytetojippity: So if you need support for it, please ask the authors of the PPA.
[19:10] <trism> acolytetojippity: make sure the ppa has packages for your ubuntu version
[19:10] <john_doe_jr> I'd like to download ubuntu 11.04 server…how do I do that?
[19:10] <acolytetojippity> @trism it does
[19:11] <jrib> john_doe_jr: you realize support for 11.04 is about to end?
[19:11] <trism> acolytetojippity: how did you add it?
[19:11] <slav3_kitten> quick, stupid question. when in cli trying to move a file that starts with a "-" how would you accomplish that
[19:11] <trism> acolytetojippity: also can you point out the ppa link so I can look?
[19:11] <jrib> slav3_kitten: mv -- -file foobar
[19:11] <bobweaver> Westz,  after compat is done you can try this for your wireless  sudo rmmod rtl8187    && sudo ifconfig wlan0 down &&  sudo modprobe iwlagn 11n_disable=1  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up    If wlan0 is the correct thing  check with ifconfig
[19:12] <slav3_kitten> thanks jrib how did i miss that in the man page
[19:12] <acolytetojippity> @trism sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[19:12] <acolytetojippity> and you can find it at...
[19:12] <Westz> wlan0 doesn't even exist in if or iwconfig
[19:12] <Westz> as of yet
[19:12] <jrib> slav3_kitten: not sure it's in there :)
[19:12] <trism> acolytetojippity: thanks I can find it from that
[19:12] <bekks> Westz: ifconfig -a
[19:12] <slav3_kitten> oh because it says nothing in there about it lol
[19:12] <Westz> my bad, it does now
[19:12] <acolytetojippity> ok, cool.  I'm brand new to all this
[19:13] <trism> acolytetojippity: which ubuntu version are you on?
[19:13] <Westz> oh, nevermind, that's the USB wireless card
[19:13] <jrib> slav3_kitten: I'm actually not sure where that is documented
[19:13] <acolytetojippity> 12.04 LTS
[19:13] <slav3_kitten> jrib, it's something that really should be documented
[19:14] <slav3_kitten> guess -- is the options escape sequence
[19:14] <trism> acolytetojippity: alright, looks like it is there, how about: apt-cache policy cinnamon
[19:15] <acolytetojippity> what are you looking for with that command?
[19:15] <trism> acolytetojippity: Candidate: some_version_here with a ppa url below
[19:16] <acolytetojippity> cinnamon:
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>   Installed: (none)
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>   Candidate: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1~precise1
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>   Version table:
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>      1.6.1-0ubuntu1~precise1 0
[19:16] <FloodBot1> acolytetojippity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <acolytetojippity>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
[19:16] <bobweaver> !pastebin | acolytetojippity
[19:16] <Westz> still nada with the eth0
[19:16] <bobweaver> Westz,  reboot
[19:16] <slav3_kitten> many thanks however
[19:16] <trism> acolytetojippity: yep that looks fine, remember pastebin in the future, I imagine you would just: sudo apt-get install cinnamon; but I have never used the software myself
[19:16] <Westz> already did, bobweaver
[19:16] <bobweaver> Westz,  then come back here for more de-bugging
[19:17] <acolytetojippity> oops.  sorry folks.
[19:17] <Westz> i already rebooted, right after i made compat
[19:17] <bobweaver> Oo  Westz  lets see      lsmod  | pastebinit
[19:17] <Westz> and installed it
[19:17] <bobweaver> Westz,  pastebinit will auto paste stuff for you on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <wlcosta> paste.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <wlcosta> WOW
[19:18] <wlcosta> just
[19:18] <wlcosta> WOW
[19:18] <gordonjcp> wlcosta: hm?
[19:18] <Westz> pastebin.com/yn0ANaj8
[19:19] <acolytetojippity> ok, i'll try it out.  thanks folks!
[19:20] <Westz> just FYI, making and installing compat returned a few errors. but I don't have them logged, i don't think
[19:22] <bobweaver> Westz,  try this   sudo rmmod rtl8187     && sudo modprobe iwlagn    then please run ifconfig    to see if wlan0 or ra0 or whatever wireless is. Is it there now ?
[19:23] <Westz> give me a few minutes, i'm on a computer other than the one with the problem, and it's becoming a pain to pass commands back and forth >.<
[19:23] <thufir_>  if mplayer is saying:  Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available.  see https://gist.github.com/3841172, then I need to add non free to sources?  what line do I add to sources to get mpg123?  how do I add apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras?section=universe?section=multiverse  ?
[19:24] <rbennacer> does it require a reboot after installing a virtual linux image from the apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:24] <rbennacer> ?
[19:25] <bekks> rbennacer: Sure.
[19:26] <ssta> any time you change kernel, you need a reboot
[19:26] <ssta> (not sure a kernel change is needed as often as we get one, but...)
[19:26] <rbennacer> so it is just a different name for a kernel pathc
[19:26] <bekks> rbennacer: No.
[19:26] <rbennacer> patch
[19:26] <rbennacer> ?
[19:26] <bekks> A new kernel image is not a patch. It is a new image.
[19:26] <ssta> it's a kernel for a virtual machine
[19:27] <Zta> Anyone? http://askubuntu.com/questions/196896/how-to-read-default-key-value-with-dconf-or-gsettings
[19:28] <bluebears5> How would I install this? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[19:29] <bluebears5> I'm not sure how to install newer drivers. I'm currently flying Bodhi, so I'm not sure if it has updated drivers or not.
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> bluebears5, This is ubuntu support.
[19:30] <bluebears5> Bodhi is based upon Ubuntu.
[19:31] <trism> Zta: usually I just read the schemas in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas, but I think dconf-editor will also tell you
[19:31] <Westz> bobweaver, "module rtl8187 does not exist in /proc/modules"
[19:31] <Zta> trism: the editor will tell me, but I'd very much like to script this.
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> bluebears5, That does not matter try #bodhilinux  ;)
[19:31] <bobweaver> What Oo  it says that it is there in lsmod please try modinfo rtl8187
[19:32] <bobweaver> is it there ?
[19:32] <bobweaver> maybe I got the name wrong ?
[19:32] <bobweaver> idts though
[19:32] <Westz> no. wait a second, it was my fault
[19:32] <thufir_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats says "click here" to install restricted, but that doesn't work for me...how do I get the link to work?  or, install restricted?
[19:32] <Westz> i did the first one you sent but not the next one, give me a moment
[19:32] <TheRealZeus> Hey guys, I am trying to run a game from the steam launcher. The game is called Garry's Mod. For some reason wine does not run it properly. It zooms in for the game but all i see is the desktop background. Help?
[19:33] <trism> Zta: I don't know that there are any command line tools that will print the default value, though the schemas are just xml so you could write something using gsettings to query the value and then parse the schemas (or have gsettings dump the values)
[19:33] <bobweaver> +1 trijntje
[19:34] <thufir_> nm
[19:34] <bobweaver> trism, *
[19:34] <Westz> no, i still get the same response from "sudo rmmod rtl8187     && sudo modprobe iwlagn"
[19:34] <TheRealZeus> Hey guys, I am trying to run a game from the steam launcher. The game is called Garry's Mod. For some reason wine does not run it properly. It zooms in for the game but all i see is the desktop background. Help?
[19:34] <TheRealZeus> so know one knows hpw to fix
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, Use the terminal install with the correct desktop in the command
[19:35] <thufir_> wilee-nilee: lol, yeah, errr, um, I didn't read that part, which was the part I was looking for.  pardon.
[19:36] <thufir_> I thought I had to edit sources
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, hehe easy mistake wikis can be rather confusing anyway. ;)
[19:36] <Westz> bobweaver, pastebin.com/JpyMCPAZ
[19:37] <bobweaver> Westz,  lets see lsmod again maybe now is a good time to tell you what is going on or in other words what we are doing.  In linux we use model aka "drivers" in other worlds.   so the mod(driver) that you have loaded is the wrong one ! aka rtl8187 you need the iwlagn    when we do the command lsmod this means ls = list  and mod = models or drivers.  so ls+mod = list all mods (drivers) running.  sudo rmmod  removes the mod  sudo modprobe  adds
[19:37] <bobweaver>  a new mod ,
[19:37] <thufir_> bobweaver: I thought they were modules and not models?  ;)
[19:37] <bobweaver> my spelling today deserves a d-
[19:38] <bobweaver> yes thufir_  correct
[19:38] <bobweaver> thanks for the edit
[19:38] <thufir_> although models would be a change of pace..
[19:38] <bobweaver> lol
[19:38] <Westz> hehe
[19:38] <Westz> i know a bit, i used to run arch, but it's been a LONG time
[19:39] <bobweaver> Westz,  what I am unsure of is in you paste of lspci -nn it says that your cards are not authenticated I have never seen this before
[19:39] <bobweaver> sorry Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:39] <bobweaver> that ^^
[19:40] <bobweaver> I am un-sure what that means but I do know that you have the wrong mod installed
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> bobweaver, your great help bumps your grade to a pass.
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:41] <thufir_> in looking at:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mp3   I don't like totem, but that's the best way to ensure that mp3's work?  while I'm waiting on downloads, how can I test sound, speakers, pulseaudio, etc?
[19:41] <Westz> pastebin.com/G66bCdss for lsmod
[19:42] <thufir_> Westz: I wonder if authentication refers to that, err, "secure computing" or something which microsoft touts?
[19:42] <Zta> trism, hmm... how do I make gsettings dump the schema values?
[19:42] <bobweaver> afk, 5 minutes (client )
[19:42] <thufir_> Westz: security built into the motherboard to prevent mucking with the OS...?
[19:42] <Westz> i hope not, my wireless card is aftermarket from Intel...
[19:42] <adamsobotka> +i
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> thufir_, I always use vlc personally pretty much all the codecs needed in open source are in it.
[19:43] <thufir_> but your wired NIC, is that built-in?
[19:43] <Westz> yeah
[19:43] <thufir_> wilee-nilee: thanks
[19:43] <thufir_> Westz: I think you have the wrong module. but that's just a guess.
[19:43] <Westz> i don't see why it's this big a pain. i've heard of people running ubuntu on this laptop before. i feel like it'sbecause i'm using 10.04
[19:44] <Westz> it'd probably work out of box in 12.04
[19:44] <thufir_> Westz: oooh, yeah, don't do that!  why are you doing that!?
[19:44] <adamsobotka> Can i anyway make a desktop shortcut of icons in dock in unity ?? I want have shortcut on desktop of Home folder,can i do it anyway please ??
[19:44] <Westz> it's LTS and actually uses gnome. i like the version of banshee it uses
[19:44] <theadmin> Westz: 12.04 uses GNOME as well (with Unity as the shell)
[19:45] <Westz> i thought it was using joli?
[19:45] <theadmin> Westz: It was using "joli"? That's not any desktop I know.
[19:45] <Westz> shoot, it's been SO LONG since i've used ubuntu...
[19:45] <Westz> i thought jolicloud was the new DM they used
[19:46] <thufir_> Westz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  I use lxde.  be aware that I'm also mucking about with codecs and drivers precisely because I don't want to use whatever GUI regulular ubuntu uses.
[19:46] <theadmin> Westz: http://ubuntu.com/tour -- you can see the generic look of the modern Ubuntu desktop here
[19:46] <Westz> not a fan of lxde
[19:46] <Westz> i'd prefer openbox if anything other than gnome
[19:47] <thufir_> Westz: that minimal cd allows that easily.
[19:47] <Westz> hmm. i might do that. it'd be less work than this
[19:47] <Westz> though i'm considering just dumping ubuntu and going back to arch, if i'm going to go with openbox anyway
[19:48] <moustafa> http://is.gd/yFVhs9
[19:48] <thufir_> Westz: sure.  I don't think another distro would magically pick up the driver for your NIC better magically, just something *newer* might do the trick.
[19:49] <tryy3> isn't acpi -t supposed to show computer temperature?
[19:50] <trism> Zta: here is kind of an ugly hack to get the default value with a script (while preserving the user value), it may have the side effect of weird settings on the desktop momentarily as apps listen for values
[19:50] <bobweaver> Zta,  hall gsettings data lives under /usr/share/g-conf/schemas   sessions files are under usr/share/dbus-1/sessions
[19:51] <trism> Zta: argument and error checking is left as an exercise to the reader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262595/
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> adamgousetis, You can use this tool I believe for showing home. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/unity-tweak-tool-myunity-gets-new-look-coming-to-ubuntu-software-centre  I use the cairo-dock and make some launchers and drag them to it, not sure if docky works the same. here is a link on creating launchers.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[19:51] <trism> Zta: then you could do for something in gsettings list-schemas for key in gsettings list-children schema, get the default value, etc
[19:51] <bobweaver> trism,  that is cool right there
[19:51] <Zta> trism: Heh, I though about that
[19:52] <Zta> trism: I fear it may have more severe side effects than just flashing desktop.
[19:53] <Westz> thufir_, it's the issue that i know how to update better with Arch. if i just need a newer kernel because it's got the mods i need, i can do that with Arch.
[19:53] <trism> Zta: true, may be work adding the option to gsettings directly
[19:53] <trism> Zta: work = worth
[19:53] <thufir_> Westz: ubuntu does the same update thing, by the way.  ok, well, good luck :)
[19:53] <bobweaver> Westz,  that was my next question that is a older kerenl when was the last time you upgraded ?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:53] <thufir_> bobweaver: he's using 10.x ubuntu
[19:54] <Westz> well i'm not leaving this channel until i get SOMETHING working, so don't wish me luck and send me on my way quite *yet*
[19:54] <Zta> bobweaver:  I'm not sure how that's of any use to me.  It seems got anything that easily parses the XML and gives me the default value?
[19:54] <Zta> bobweaver: perhaps some XSL magic...
[19:54] <Westz> updating this could take all week....
[19:55] <bekks> Westz: Maybe someone already asked, but which Ubuntu do you use?
[19:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> i had 11.04 on my machine, i upgraded my mobo to one that (i only just realised) that 11.04 doesnt have drivers for
[19:55] <Westz> Lucid
[19:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> what do
[19:55] <theadmin> Westz: Updating Ubuntu? A week? Dude, this isn't Gentoo, it will take maximally a couple hours
[19:55] <Westz> i'm using 802.11b wireless.....
[19:55] <theadmin> Westz: Besides you can upgrade from Lucid to Precise directly (LTS to LTS)
[19:56] <fishscene> If you have a 12.04 CD, I believe you can use that as the source to update your existing OS.
[19:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> fishscene: was that aimed at me?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> fishscene, The alternative is the disc.
[19:57] <fishscene> It was aimed at anyone updating actually.
[19:57] <bobweaver> fishscene,  you can use do-release-upgrade -p   but you just change your  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   to say lts
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Don't upgrade without a full backup a clone preferably, if it goes bad the upgrade have your booty covered.
[19:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> so if my previous linux install doesnt have drivers for my new mobo
[19:58] <bobweaver> and it goes from lts to lts like theadmin  was talking about
[19:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> can i just get a 12.04 usb install and update?
[19:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> and ubuntu will still have all the stuff i previously installed?
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> WhereIsMySpoon, if done correctly yes theoretically, some drivers may need a reinstall.
[19:59] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: That's not exactly how it works, you mount the ISO you downloaded in Ubuntu and run the upgrade from within
[19:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin: i cant boot ubuntu
[19:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> i had 11.04 before i upgraded my mobo and 11.04 literally had 0 drivers for my mobo
[20:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> so it wont boot
[20:00] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Drivers for a motherboard sounds kinda weird to me
[20:00] <bekks> WhereIsMySpoon: Using Ubuntu, all drivers needed are provided.
[20:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> for teh kernel
[20:00] <thufir_> WhereIsMySpoon: hmm, yeah, that doesn't make sense.
[20:00] <fishscene> You should be able to still boot off of an Ubuntu CD.
[20:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> 11.04 doesnt have the kernel drivers for my mobo
[20:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> fishscene: sure
[20:00] <bobweaver> WhereIsMySpoon,  this is a tablet ?
[20:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> bobweaver: no, a pc
[20:01] <bekks> WhereIsMySpoon: Every linux provides all "mainboard drivers".
[20:01] <thufir_> it's already been suggested to test a live cd
[20:01] <ricky26> bekks: His SATA controller drivers are out of date.
[20:01] <fishscene> WhereIsMySpoon: did you try to boot off of a LiveCD? If so, what happened?
[20:01] <ricky26> They were only introduced in 11.10 from what I saw.
[20:01] <ricky26> I told him to chroot and apt-get upgrade :P
[20:01] <bekks> Then use 12.04
[20:02] <_alpha_> hi all - I'm trying to install ubuntu but getting this error: http://server1.tfountain.co.uk/error.jpg
[20:02] <Lantizia> I've got a UPS that won't connect with NUT - anyone know anything about this?
[20:02] <saml> hey, if I want to run 32 bit apps,  do I install ia32-libs  ?
[20:02] <saml> or is there a new way?
[20:02] <ricky26> _alpha_: Have you tried to specify said partition layout?
[20:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> fishscene: i havent tried anything yet
[20:03] <theadmin> saml: Well, nowadays ia32-libs actually appears to have come preinstalled
[20:03] <_alpha_> the new partition table, and other buttons are all greyed out
[20:03] <_alpha_> so how would I do that?
[20:03] <theadmin> saml: So just try it
[20:03] <escott> saml, multiarch apt-get install program:i386
[20:03] <saml> it's a 3rd party pre-compiled 32bit program
[20:03] <ricky26> _alpha_: ah, I couldn't tell ^^;
[20:03] <theadmin> _alpha_: Why are you installing to /dev/sdb? That looks like a second hard drive (unlikely unless you're on a desktop computer) or a USB stick...
[20:03] <ricky26> _alpha_: Ctrl-Alt-F2 and do ls -al /dev/sd*
[20:04] <escott> saml, so run "ldd program.binary" and figure out the dependencies
[20:04] <_alpha_>  /dev/sdb is the only option in that dropdown
[20:04] <fishscene> WhereIsMySpoon: Yea, go ahead and download the 12.04 alternative CD and try to boot from it, then see how things look (AKA you can get online, etc..). I don't know if you can upgrade your existing OS from this point though - I've only attempted an upgrade from within the OS needing to upgrade.
[20:04] <_alpha_> there is no usb stick in there
[20:04] <saml> l	libX11.so.6 => not found       	libXext.so.6 => not found
[20:04] <escott> saml, you can use "apt-file" to figure out where you can get libX11.so.6
[20:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> apt-file ?
[20:05] <_alpha_> ls -al /dev/sd* gives me sda, sda1, 2 and 3; and sdb, sdb1 and sdc
[20:05] <_alpha_> so it's not detecting the disk for some reason?
[20:06] <ricky26> _alpha_: so it knows that you've got a first drive ;_;
[20:06] <theadmin> _alpha_: Did you make sure to check the ISO after downloading?
[20:06] <theadmin> Sounds like the installer is messing something up
[20:06] <saml> escott, apt-file only reports 64 bit apckages
[20:06] <ricky26> _alpha_: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[20:06] <theadmin> Also the GUI installer doesn't work with RAID yet, just saying
[20:06] <_alpha_> I've installed off this iso before I think, so it should be good
[20:06] <ricky26> _alpha_: There has to be something resembling a partition table on there if it has 1/2/3
[20:06] <_alpha_> what does that fdisk command do?
[20:06] <ricky26> _alpha_: That will list it.
[20:07] <ricky26> _alpha_: I realised how dodgy that sounded afterwards >_>
[20:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> _alpha_: man fdisk if you want to find out :)
[20:07] <escott> saml, thats fine. its the same package name just whatever:i386
[20:07] <theadmin> ricky26: It also needs sudo for some reason
[20:07] <_alpha_> that gives me: Cannot open /dev/sda
[20:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> _alpha_: yea try it with sudo
[20:07] <ricky26> theadmin: shouldn't from the liveCD should it?
[20:07] <_alpha_> and the cd drive is spinning so I guess that's the dvd drive anyway
[20:08] <theadmin> ricky26: No, the livecd setup is pretty identical to the one on the final system, except the user is called "ubuntu" and has no password (so sudo doesn't prompt for a password), but the livecd doesn't run as root
[20:08] <_alpha_> ok got some output with sudo
[20:08] <ricky26> theadmin: ah cool
[20:08] <_alpha_> it says it's a 750G disk so it's the right one
[20:08] <ricky26> theadmin: I am used to livecd's providing root login on the terminals. x__x
[20:08] <_alpha_> lists sda1, 2 and
[20:08] <_alpha_> 3
[20:08] <Scunizi> With an average fresh install by someone new to linux, how do they know to eliminate old kernals to free space? I just eliminated 7 kernals and associated packages to the tune of apx 3gigs of space.
[20:09] <ricky26> _alpha_: did you try the fdisk -l with sudo at the front?
[20:09] <saml> escott, thanks
[20:09] <theadmin> ricky26: What the heck are those? Gentoo and Arch are the only two I can think of, lol
[20:09] <_alpha_> also says "partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary"
[20:09] <_alpha_> yes
[20:09] <trism> Zta: hmm, think I found a workaround: XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/tmp gsettings get schema key;
[20:09] <saml> E: Unable to locate package libxext6:i368
[20:09] <trism> Zta: creates a fresh config in /tmp which will only have default values
[20:09] <ricky26> theadmin: Well, arch is the one I use most frequently
[20:09] <Odra> Can someone help me install something from source?
[20:09] <theadmin> ricky26: Ah, that's why I know your nickname :P
[20:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> he gets around
[20:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[20:09] <ricky26> theadmin: but I'm sure some of the other distros I used default root
[20:09] <ricky26> as it doesn't really make a difference.
[20:09] <ricky26> theadmin: waitwhat?
[20:10] <Odra> I tried installing Poedit, but it says I need wxWidgets, which says I need gtk+ 2.0 or superior, which says I need atk, pango, cairo etc
[20:10] <theadmin> Odra: Most of the time the process is, um, ./configure && make && sudo make install
[20:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> we know who you are, ricky26.
[20:10] <theadmin> ricky26: Mind if we switch to a PM session? Hihgly offtopic, ops will complain
[20:10] <Odra> theadmin: I never reached the make part.
[20:10] <theadmin> Odra: Okay, what does the configure script complain about?
[20:10] <Odra> Which one?
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[20:10] <_alpha_> this is the fdisk output: http://server1.tfountain.co.uk/out.txt
[20:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> Odra: when you run ./configure, what is the output
[20:11] <ricky26> theadmin: I don't mind.
[20:11] <Odra> Poedit says I don't have wxwidgets. wxwidgets says I dont have gtk+ 2.0, gtk+ 3.4.4 says I don't have atk, cairo, pango etc
[20:11] <Zta> trism: Great!  Let me try it.  I was about to write XSL and use xsltproc on the schema XML files, but they're named a little weird..
[20:11] <Westz> things are getting ridiculous all around now...
[20:11] <bobweaver> I have a question about partitioning. Here is a drive that I have http://imagebin.org/231037   I am wondering if I can remove the swap that is in sda6  and make  the unallocated section bigger then make that my swap ?  is this possible ?
[20:11] <escott> Odra, three suggestions (a) check apt (b) recheck apt (c) if you have to build from source use checkinstall (d) if checkinstall doesnt work install to /opt
[20:11] <ricky26> _alpha_: Good news, your disk drive works. :P
[20:11] <_alpha_> indeed!
[20:11] <Westz> this reminds me of the XKCD about installing BSD
[20:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[20:12] <Odra> escott: But the poedit I can get from the repositories is an old buggy one that barely works
[20:12] <Odra> There seems to be a new version with plural support which I just really need. I should have done this with a text editor...
[20:13] <Zta> trism: Clever!
[20:13] <escott> Odra, did you install the dev version of wxWidgets
[20:13] <Odra> Dunno. The one I tried to install was wxGTK
[20:14] <Zta> trism:  Thanks!  Feel free to answer my askubuntu post with your workaround.
[20:14] <escott> Odra, there will be a whatever-dev package with the program header files. you need that to be able to build against it
[20:14] <yeats> Odra: you might also try 'apt-get build-dep poedit'
[20:15] <Odra> escott: Sounds complicated.
[20:15] <ricky26> _alpha_: Does the installer always do this?
[20:15] <ricky26> _alpha_: The only thing I can think of is to check dmesg for weirdness.
[20:15] <escott> Odra, not really, just follow yeats suggestion. when you isntall something you get binaries but not the stuff you need to be able to run make
[20:15] <thufir_> after installing ubuntu server, I installed ubuntu-extras, but am still getting mp3 playback errors:  https://gist.github.com/3841172   are the codes installed?
[20:15] <_alpha_> did it twice
[20:15] <Odra> All I wanted was to do was translating my stopwatch D:
[20:15] <escott> Odra, those additional header files are in the -dev package which the average person doesnt neet
[20:15] <_alpha_> I'm just checking boot options in the bios, maybe this laptop is doing some weird stuff
[20:16] <Odra> escott: Is wxwidgets even in the repositories?
[20:17] <ricky26> _alpha_: I'd be really suspicious about that one, as it can definitely enumerate your connected devices
[20:17] <ricky26> _alpha_: given that it can read the partition table too, the disks must be working
[20:17] <JohnTeddy> I have a nice webcam, I want to record 20 seconds video clips then mash them together into a 5 minute video. What is good software to use for just recording from my webcam? What format should I use (say if I'm going to post it to youtube)?
[20:17] <ricky26> _alpha_: it must've decided against using them for installation for some reason.
[20:17] <mcurran> Anybody know how I can view my webcam on VLC or another gtk app?
[20:17] <mcurran> BESIDES SKYPE!
[20:17] <ricky26> _alpha_: Did you just pick the 'custom layout' option on the previous screen?
[20:17] <escott> mcurran, cheese
[20:17] <ricky26> mcurran: cheese
[20:17] <theadmin> mcurran: Cheese
[20:18]  * ricky26 highfives escott.
[20:18] <mcurran> opening /dev/video0 doesn't work
[20:18] <sliffstar> itunes for ubuntu anybody with the link
[20:18] <escott> WHISKEY
[20:18] <mcurran> I've tried cheese too
[20:18] <_alpha_> previous screen was wifi setup I think
[20:18] <mcurran> shouldn't any media player open it?
[20:18] <schultza> im having some trouble... im trying to install apache2 and configure it. apt-get says it's installed, but i cant find the /etc/httpd directory
[20:18] <_alpha_> I'm just trying it again anyway, let me see what happens
[20:18] <sliffstar> itunes for ubuntu
[20:18] <theadmin> sliffstar: No such thing.
[20:18] <sliffstar> theadmin, so how can i sinc my ipod with ubuntu
[20:19] <sliffstar> theadmin, so how can i sync my ipod with ubuntu
[20:19] <ohzie> Is there a way to get unity to not group up my windows in alt+tab?
[20:19] <ricky26> escott: what happens when you try cheese?
[20:19] <theadmin> sliffstar: You probably can't.
[20:19] <theadmin> sliffstar: I've never used Apple products so I never cared, but all I know is that there's no iTunes on Ubuntu
[20:20] <mcurran> Also I wanna make a Mountain Lion installer USB, and have to first have an active install of OS X with their disk utility app.  Problem is I have an AMD processor.  Anyone know if I'll have better luck installing on VMWare Player or VirtualBox?
[20:20] <escott> !illegal | mcurran
[20:20] <Guest78424> Hey all
[20:20] <sliffstar> theadmin, any application for  link my pc and ipod
[20:20] <theadmin> sliffstar: I don't know.
[20:21] <mcurran> There' nothing illegal about using my licensed copy of OS X on a VM
[20:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> mcurran:  piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices
[20:21] <escott> mcurran, yes there is. apple licenses require that you install OS X on only apple hardware, but if you want to push the issue
[20:21] <sliffstar> theadmin, ask ya fellow then u can assist me
[20:21] <escott> !ot | mcurran
[20:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> its against apple's tos to make a hackintosh
[20:21] <jdawg2> can anyone help me figure out how to use jack audio connection
[20:22] <convivial> firstly, one pronounced ubuntu as OOH-BOON-TU
[20:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> also yea this is ot ^^
[20:22] <Odra> Oh now I need boost
[20:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> convivial: ooh-bun-too
[20:22] <theadmin> Odra: What are you trying to compile anyway?
[20:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> ew boost :|
[20:22] <convivial> ooh-bun-too]\
[20:22] <convivial> ooh-bun-too
[20:22] <convivial> ok, thanks
[20:22] <bekks> oh-stop-it.
[20:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
[20:23] <convivial> secondly, which vernacular is preferred kubuntu or ubuntu?
[20:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> convivial: neither
[20:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> it's up to you
[20:23] <dlentz> so does anyone have an actual ubuntu support question?
[20:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> there isn't a "better"
[20:23] <theadmin> convivial: Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Kubuntu are all identically supported official Ubuntu distributions. Any of them is fine. Just your personal taste matters.
[20:23] <arielsanflo> #ubuntu-es
[20:23] <jrib> Odra: are you sure the version in the repositories doesn't do what you want?... Why don't you use the magic command that installs dependencies for the poedit package?
[20:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> magic command
[20:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[20:24] <DanStamp> I'm having a nightmare here trying to get some via drivers installed on ubuntu.  The most recent version of ubuntu i can find with via support is 8.0.4 so I'm running that one.  So I'm on trying to compile the drivers for the machine, and its coming up "autoreconf: failed to run aclocal, no such file or directory".
[20:24] <Odra> jrib:  Because it's not installed.
[20:24] <Odra> If the newest version was installed it wouldn't be 1.4.6, it would be 1.5.3
[20:24] <jrib> Odra: you don't need it installed
[20:24] <convivial> There are no stability or compatibility issues betwixt them?
[20:24] <bekks> convivial: No.
[20:24] <theadmin> convivial: No, they're all the same
[20:24] <Odra> jrib: But I want to translate my app D:
[20:24] <_alpha_> same issue again. found this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2025302 - same laptop range as mine, will try some of the suggestions there
[20:24] <wN> WhereIsMySpoon: lies. kde is ftl
[20:24] <theadmin> convivial: Just different desktops
[20:24] <DanStamp> I've installed all the prerequesists as far as I can tell, and there is a aclocal but I assume its not in the place its looking?
[20:24] <escott> convivial, the only difference is the default desktop that is installed with each
[20:25] <theadmin> wN: This is your own personal opinion, please refrain from confusing people.
[20:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> wN: please take that sort of talk somewhere else
[20:25] <wN> pffffffffft
[20:25] <convivial> I know unity desktop is preferred and even that is the same on all of them?
[20:25] <jrib> Odra: right.  So my first question is, "Are you sure the version in the repositories doesn't do what you want?  How so?"
[20:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> convivial: unity is not "preferred" or "bad"
[20:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> its personal
[20:25] <Odra> jrib: It's bad enough that monodevelop hates me and keeps breaking in multiple areas ever ten minutes now the i18n editor too? I need to translate stuff.
[20:25] <theadmin> convivial: Uh, no. Ubuntu comes with Gnome+Unity, Kubuntu comes with KDE, Lubuntu comes with LXDE and Xubuntu comes with Xfce
[20:25] <dlentz> DanStamp, you have automake package installed?
[20:26] <jrib> Odra: why are you telling me this?
[20:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> was about to ask that
[20:26] <DanStamp> dlentz: I have automake and autoconf installed aye.
[20:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> jrib: cause you asked if odra needed it
[20:26] <Odra> jrib: No reason. Also 1.4.6 can't do plural translations.
[20:26] <craigbass1976> I've got sound out the headphone jack on the front of my computer, but not the regular speaker out.  Pulse seems fine and so does alsamixer, but I know I'm missing something
[20:26] <dlentz> DanStamp, what does the "which aclocal" command return?
[20:26] <jrib> Odra: you can do "sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGE" and the build dependencies for the package will be installed
[20:27] <escott> craigbass1976, laptop? intel HDA?
[20:27] <Odra> jrib: Still lacking boost after that.
[20:27] <convivial> oh, i see, I would prefer a purely gnome desktop but know do that … kde i hates so I guess ubuntu is my desire
[20:27] <escott> craigbass1976, (and new?)
[20:27] <convivial> since i can do gnome
[20:27] <Odra> I dunno maybe it started using boost in 1.5.3 and since the rep is 1.4.6 it didn't install boost.
[20:27] <jrib> Odra: check if the version requirements changed
[20:27] <DanStamp> dlentz: As in just "which aclocal"? As that returns absolutely nothing.
[20:27] <craigbass1976> escott, Dell tower.  No; it was one of the ubuntu boxes dell sold a while ago.  I'm running 12.04, but I think it came with hardy
[20:28] <convivial> however, if I were smart I'd install server and apt-get gnome for a pure gnome scenario
[20:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> convivial: ive used xubuntu and that has quite a minimal desktop which is nothing like unity if thats what you want
[20:28] <yeats> convivial: you might just want to visit the website for each variant rather than asking about it here - plenty of good info on each site
[20:28] <craigbass1976> escott, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[20:28] <Odra> Just how much crap do I need to install in order to translate "Undelete a log" and "Undelete {0} logs"? :C
[20:28] <DanStamp> dlentz: I do know there's an aclocal-1.10 in /usr/bin
[20:28] <convivial> yeats, I prefer word of mouth from experiences users
[20:29] <DanStamp> dlentz: but I guess it might not be picking it up ros eomthing?
[20:29] <yeats> convivial: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> convivial: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <jrib> Odra: can't you use rosetta?
[20:29] <dlentz> DanStamp, maybe try making a symolic link named aclocal in /usr/local/bin (popinting to aclocal-1.10)
[20:29] <Odra> jrib: What is that?
[20:29] <convivial> ok, thanks but i made4 my desciion already xubuntu -- small foot is a winner
[20:29] <convivial> thank you guys and bye bye
[20:29] <jrib> Odra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rosetta
[20:30] <jrib> Odra: if you just want to send the translations upstream, I think that should be sufficient
[20:31] <sharperguy> Hey. I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 and I have no sound in WINE. What could be the reason for this? I tried the test sound in winecfg and get nothig
[20:32] <dlentz> sharperguy, are you running 64-bit?
[20:32] <sharperguy> dlentz, nope
[20:32] <theadmin> sharperguy: Try running your wine app with "padsp wine /path/to/your/file.exe"
[20:32] <theadmin> sharperguy: When padsp is installed.
[20:32] <dlentz> sharperguy, which wine audio driver did you select?
[20:32] <moment> hey how do i end an ssh connection
[20:33] <craigbass1976> moment, type exit
[20:33] <moment> like i'm a client
[20:33] <dlentz> theadmin, don't you need to select OSS driver for padsp to work?
[20:33] <jrib> Odra: also, assuming you have the dependencies, poedit seems to have binaries available
[20:33] <moment> thanks!
[20:33] <sharperguy> dlentz, I didn't select one. It says "winealsa.drv" but theres no option it just tells me
[20:33] <DanStamp> dlentz: That seems to have done something! ..let's see.
[20:33] <theadmin> dlentz: I'm not sure... I don't think Wine lets you select any drivers.
[20:34] <DanStamp> dlentz: Failed to run automake.  I guess same again then.
[20:34] <sharperguy> theadmin, that didnt seem to make a difference
[20:34] <dlentz> DanStamp, are you getting the correct resolution on your via card?
[20:34] <theadmin> sharperguy: Damn, okay then, not too sure... I'd dig deeper but am tired
[20:35] <RedPanda> wb
[20:35] <dlentz> i dislike Phonon, it's one  reason i use xfce over kde
[20:35] <RedPanda> Sagrado xD
[20:36] <bekks> KDE does not enforce the use of phonon without any alternatives.
[20:36] <Odra> jrib: Like I said, there is no 1.5.3
[20:36] <DanStamp> dlentz: Not right now.  It's been an ongoing battle to get it working.  I'll link you to the post i made on the forums rather than spam up the chat with the story so far.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12277600#post12277600
[20:36] <RedPanda> O.o
[20:36] <the_dudez0r> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 12.10 and I get this annoying bug in which the applications I open, are missing the toolbars [File, Edit,..., About], I tried changing to jwm, gnome classic, nothing helps.
[20:36] <sharperguy> Well nobody else knows about sound in WINE?
[20:38] <Odra> sharperguy: I don't think drinks make sounds.
[20:38] <theadmin> the_dudez0r: In Unity, the menu bars are located on the top panel (very top of the screen, hover there to see them)
[20:38] <escott> the_dudez0r, probably a buggy unity-menu plugin
[20:38] <Boreeas> Is there a simple way to add dbus bindings? Specifically, I want to map the multimedia keys to alsa commands
[20:38] <theadmin> the_dudez0r: If you want to change this behaviour to a traditional one, run: sudo apt-get remove appmenu-{qt,gtk} firefox-globalmenu
[20:39] <dlentz> DanStamp, i would try forcing the vesa driver, should be good enough for standard resolutions, openchrome 2d acceleration with EXA is really experimental still and isn't even in the mainline kernel yet: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE0NTQ
[20:39] <kyubotsu> sharperguy: #winehq might have answers
[20:39] <Boreeas> sharperguy: What is your problem again?
[20:39] <Odra> I swear if I have to install anything besides boost to get this stupid thing working I will leave my stopwatch untranslated >:U
[20:39] <sharperguy> I just wanted to write some music and now I have to mess about with pulseaudio for the billionth time. I dont see why they wrote this thing
[20:39] <wN> sharperguy: i think wine has their own irc channel #winehq
[20:39] <escott> Boreeas, alsa doesnt listen to pulse so you would have to write your own dbus client
[20:39] <Boreeas> Oh great
[20:39] <sharperguy> Boreeas, I just installed wine in kubuntu and i get no sound
[20:40] <Boreeas> sharperguy: Which wine version? 1.4 has problems with pulseaudio
[20:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Boreeas: gogo write dat client
[20:40] <theadmin> Odra: Would you please tell what you're trying to compile? There may be prebuilt Ubuntu packages. Search for "application name ppa" on Google
[20:40] <sharperguy> Boreeas, ok its 1.4 but surely I should just use whichever comes in the repo?
[20:40] <the_dudez0r> theadmin, such a boss, thanks mate.
[20:40] <Odra> theadmin: Poedit. A po file editor. For translating GNU i18n gettext etc
[20:40] <theadmin> sharperguy: In Kubuntu it's an easy fix :) You can remove Pulseaudio. KDE, luckily, doesn't need the damned thing.
[20:41] <theadmin> Odra: Okay, sec
[20:41] <sharperguy> I feel weird about gutting out my system
[20:41] <Boreeas> sharperguy: 1.5 is slightly less stable, but I didn't have any problems with it. And it fixed the pulse issue for me
[20:41] <theadmin> Odra: Which version are you trying to find?
[20:41] <sharperguy> Boreeas, well how do I even upgrade?
[20:41] <Odra> 1.5.3
[20:41] <sharperguy> !wine1.5
[20:41] <Boreeas> sharperguy: Add the wine-beta repo, and then apt-get update && apt-get install wine1.5
[20:42] <craigbass1976> escott, I unplugged the headphones, rebooted, and all is well.  What got restarted that I could have just done with an /etc/init.d/something restart?
[20:42] <sharperguy> ah i see thanks
[20:42] <Boreeas> sharperguy: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[20:42] <escott> craigbass1976, no idea
[20:42] <Boreeas> If you prefer command line, it's all the way at the bottom
[20:42] <DanStamp> dlentz: I've actually tried the vesa driver in 10.04, using the same values for resolution and refresh rates that its previous users were using on the knoppix 2.4 via drivers, but that just left with a blank screen like most my other efforts
[20:43] <escott> craigbass1976, and you shoudl use service X not /etc/init.d/X
[20:43] <Boreeas> If that doesn't fix it, reinstall pulseaudio if you didn't already. Else, remove pulseaudio. :P
[20:43] <theadmin> Odra: That's in the repos, so run "sudo apt-get build-dep poedit" before compiling, that will fish out the dependencies
[20:43] <TJ-> DanStamp: Does the device have an ethernet port or wireless network so you can connect via SSH when it goes black?
[20:43] <craigbass1976> Or anyone else for that matter.  If I have headphones plugged into my computer (I pasted the intel audio line from lspci a bit ago) I can't get seem to audio out of my speakers without unplugging the headphones and rebooting
[20:43] <Odra> theadmin: Like I said it doesn't work D:<
[20:44] <theadmin> Odra: Oh >.< Sorry, wasn't really listening, the channel is being too active
[20:44] <Odra> It won't install boost, which the 1.5.3 version needs, only the .1.4.6 is in the repos
[20:44] <sharperguy> Wait does kubuntu not have the app store like GNOME does?
[20:44] <DanStamp> TJ: It does have an ethernet port, but i haven't tried connecting to it via SSH.  I've been plugging in an external hard drive.
[20:44] <Odra> BLUARGAHRGAURG
[20:44] <Odra> I give up.
[20:44] <theadmin> Odra: sudo apt-get install libboost-dev?
[20:44] <mancha> hello fellow linux folks. how's unity (bleah) teating you all?
[20:44] <OerHeks> sharperguy, no paid apps and stuff
[20:44] <theadmin> sharperguy: It does, called "Muon"?
[20:44] <guntbert> !ot | mancha
[20:44] <sharperguy> Muon is just like synaptic
[20:45] <theadmin> sharperguy: If you want the one from the GTK versions of Ubuntu, you can sudo apt-get install software-center
[20:45] <TJ-> DanStamp: My suggestion is so you can easily grab the log-files to see what the precise error is. (/var/log/kern.log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ~/.xsession-errors)
[20:45] <escott> Odra, there is usually a reason they dont ship the newest version. either it hasnt been tested or it requires libraries that havent been tested
[20:45] <theadmin> sharperguy: Kubuntu is a GTK-free environment by default so it makes sense why they didn't include that
[20:45] <sharperguy> It doesn't have all the stuff the software centre has. I'm kinda surprised about that
[20:45] <dlentz> DanStamp, i would try to get an xorg log from a failed X session where you tried to use vesa
[20:45] <sharperguy> But no front end to it. Can I use the ubuntu music store with amarok?
[20:45] <Odra> escott: But localization is the last thing I want to implement before shipping my app to ubuntu software center D:}
[20:45] <craigbass1976> escott, I used to when I used fedora, then when I came to ubuntu I got in the habit again of init.d.  I'm had a problem with "make up my mind why dontcha" but I'll probably start using service again at some point.  Is there some advantage to it?  Sometimes if I can't remember exactly what the daemon's name is, I can use tab completion with init.d.  Does that work with service?
[20:46] <dlentz> DanStamp, do you know what the res should be?
[20:46] <theadmin> sharperguy: Probably not.
[20:46] <escott> craigbass1976, it sanitizes the environment
[20:46] <sharperguy> They might want to add that...
[20:47] <theadmin> sharperguy: Well... Canonical decided to drop Kubuntu support (it's still community-supported, but all that non-free stuff that is included in Ubuntu won't be in Kubuntu by default)
[20:47] <DanStamp> Unfortunately not really.  This was the xorg.conf that was on the machine when I got it. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/956557/XF86Config-4
[20:47] <DanStamp> And it ran with that..
[20:47] <DanStamp> so i assume one of the resolutions listed there is right?
[20:47] <sharperguy> theadmin, oh thats a shame since KDE is way better than GNOME now
[20:47] <romain_> Do you know a way to download a youtube video using a direct link to use wget (keepvid.com links are not working with a simple wget)
[20:47] <romain_> ?
[20:47] <theadmin> sharperguy: I agree, but you can install all those apps, the software store is called "software-center", the music player that comes by default is Banshee I think
[20:48] <theadmin> romain_: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl && youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
[20:48] <sharperguy> theadmin, yeah i know that. I don't really need it that badly it just seems strange they'd leave out all their money making services like the app store, ubuntu one and the music store etc just because i use a different DE
[20:48] <theadmin> romain_: Err, take the link in quotes
[20:48] <bjensen> why is it whenever I restart the folder I created in /var/run disappears?
[20:49] <theadmin> bjensen: Uh, because /var/run is a separate filesystem? A virtual one?
[20:49] <theadmin> bjensen: You're not supposed to create stuff there
[20:49] <TJ-> DanStamp: Can you pull the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/kern.log off it?
[20:50] <Odra> :|
[20:50] <Odra> It won't open.
[20:50] <dlentz> DanStamp, looks like it should be 1024x768 and ves should do that easy unless you're really limited on video RAM
[20:50] <bjensen> theadmin: well Im running mysql as the mysql user, it doesn't have access to create the pid file in /var/run..so I created a /var/run/mysqld and gave it chown mysql:mysql /usr/run/mysqld
[20:50] <Odra> It's in the dash home thing. But it won't open.
[20:50]  * Odra flips table
[20:50] <bekks> theadmin: Basically, you can create stuff in there - but the contents are volatile.
[20:50] <romain_> theadmin: ok, I'll try, but do I get a direct link using youtube-dl
[20:50] <theadmin> bekks: I know that... I said you're not supposed to, not you can't
[20:50] <bekks> :D
[20:51] <theadmin> romain_: youtube-dl does the actual download
[20:51] <theadmin> romain_: Just give it the link and it downloads the video
[20:51] <romain_> theadmin: Yeah that's what i thought
[20:51] <sharperguy> oh man wine1.5 is a massive download i guess i wont get any work done tonight :(
[20:51] <bjensen> theadmin: well what would you suggest I do then?
[20:52] <DanStamp> dletz: its set to 64M in the bios. But its all onboard propietry so..
[20:52] <dlentz> youtube-dl is broken in precise
[20:52] <mgodzilla> how would i get my video card properties in lxde?
[20:52] <gordonjcp> dlentz: is it?
[20:52] <theadmin> dlentz: Just found that out myself
[20:52] <mgodzilla> i guess i could boot back into unity...but i
[20:52] <mgodzilla> 'd like the learn the lxwd way :)
[20:53] <romain_> ok fyi youtube-dl -g [youtube url] display a direct link
[20:53] <dlentz> bug 1060813
[20:53] <theadmin> dlentz: Well, Google are hamsters so they're trying to get rid of all the youtube downloaders around
[20:54] <dlentz> mgodzilla, what kind of video card properties?
[20:54] <mgodzilla> dlentz, like if it sees a generic card or a specific model.
[20:54] <bjensen> theadmin: would you rather have mysqld run as root so it will have the right write permissions on /var/run?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> bjensen: mysqld doesn't need to be run as root, don't be silly
[20:55] <theadmin> bjensen: iirc it's supposed to start as root and then setuid mysql
[20:55] <theadmin> But I'm not too sure
[20:55] <gordonjcp> bjensen: how did you install mysql?
[20:55] <sharperguy> ok note to self, dont enable netbook mode in KDE again
[20:55] <bjensen> gordonjcp: using aptitude install mysqld
[20:55] <theadmin> sharperguy: :P
[20:55] <gordonjcp> bjensen: on Precise?
[20:55] <OerHeks> be carefull with aptitude
[20:55] <bjensen> gordonjcp: 8.04 lts
[20:55] <dlentz> mgodzilla, "lspci -vv" command should do it
[20:57] <gordonjcp> bjensen: oh, time to update
[20:57] <mgodzilla> thanks, dlentz
[20:57] <dlentz> sure
[20:57] <bjensen> gordonjcp: yep, I know. Just need to keep things running smoothly till then
[20:57] <gordonjcp> bjensen: you've got six months of support left
[20:57] <Westz> okay, so i realized what was happening with the whole thing earlier... the rtl8178 is my USB wifi adapter.
[20:57] <bjensen> gordonjcp: (ordering a new dell server etc)
[20:57] <gordonjcp> bjensen: try removing and reinstalling with apt-get
[20:58] <Westz> which didn't have any problems with it
[20:58] <gordonjcp> aptitude is one of the special little people
[20:58] <Westz> bobweaver still here?
[20:58] <vij> hi
[20:58] <dlentz> i never cared for aptitude, that thing is too "smart" for its own good
[21:00] <luist> where can i find qt 4.7 for ubuntu 10.04, anyone?
[21:00] <sharperguy> theadmin, since you use KDE, have you ever had a big with the system tray exanding way more than it should and taking over the whole panel so i cant see the task manager or clock?
[21:00] <theadmin> sharperguy: Maybe it's hungry? Did you try feeding it? :P Other than that nope, I haven't, weird issue
[21:01] <unperson> Anyone have a clue why empathy (in 12.04.1) is spell checking according to British rules even though in my language settings English (United States) is at the top of the list of preferences?
[21:01] <mashbro> Ubuntu stopped shipping free disks, huh?
[21:01] <sharperguy> theadmin, hmm ok
[21:02] <Odra> Is there something I have to do after make install to run something?
[21:02] <dlentz> mashbro, i think ubuntu is moving away fro CD size restriction anyway
[21:03] <unperson> Odra, You mean besides running the executable itself?
[21:03] <Odra> Yes.
[21:04] <thufir_> after installing ubuntu server, I installed ubuntu-extras, but am still getting mp3 playback errors:  https://gist.github.com/3841172   are the codes installed?
[21:05] <Odra> It crashes.
[21:05] <Odra> Oh great.
[21:05] <unperson> Odra, Usually not.  Of course there can always be exceptions.
[21:05] <Odra> I give up!
[21:06] <unperson> Odra, What are you trying to install?
[21:06] <Odra> I am going to write the translation in a text editor like I should have been doing two hours ago
[21:06] <Odra> Stupid broken front ends that won't work
[21:06] <guntbert> Odra: sounds like the sensible thing to do :)
[21:07] <unperson> Odra, :-/  Annoying.  I assume you already checked for .debs and PPAs and such?
[21:07] <Odra> unperson: THere is the version of poedit that doesn't work and the ones that won't work.
[21:07] <the_dudez0r> I just removed qjackctl and pulseaudio, is that ok? I mean if I ain't using them explicitly in any way, will I be fine?
[21:08] <unperson> Odra, I'll take that as a yes.
[21:09] <gordonjcp> the_dudez0r: fine if you don't want sound
[21:09] <john_doe_jr> when I installed 12.04 desktop in vmware …it has very small font and I can barely see it…any ideas why?
[21:09] <moment> is there any way to easily transfer a batch of files over ssh?
[21:10] <moment> like i have a local apache server i work with and sometimes i want to push all changes
[21:10] <moment> to a remote server
[21:10] <the_dudez0r> gordonjcp, I still get sound. I didn't remove alsa
[21:10] <gordonjcp> moment: I use git for that
[21:10] <moment> okay i'll look into that thanks
[21:11] <gordonjcp> moment: if you are not already using source control for your web dev, stop what you are doing *right now* and get it set up
[21:11] <unperson> Okay, apparently empathy spell checking for a British dialect is a known bug that has existed for more than a year.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/445863
[21:11] <gordonjcp> moment: source control *will* save your backside
[21:11] <gordonjcp> moment: I cannot make this point too strongly
[21:12] <crazydip> source control is one of those things that once you get used to it, you wonder how insane it was when you did not have it
[21:12] <gordonjcp> crazydip: yup
[21:12] <gordonjcp> crazydip: and when it saves your backside...
[21:12] <unperson> moment, rsync may solve your problem.  version control (git, mercurial, bazaar, etc.) is a more robust solution (but more involved).
[21:13] <Odra> Actually
[21:13] <gordonjcp> moment: depending on what you're doing, you might want to look at fabric for automating deployments
[21:13] <Odra> Localization sounds a lot of trouble.
[21:13] <gordonjcp> Odra: it can be
[21:13] <luist> where can i find qt 4.7 for ubuntu 10.04, anyone? :T
[21:13] <Odra> I mean it's the second time I try to translate my project and I still wasn't able to.
[21:14] <Odra> Maybe it's not worth it.
[21:14] <gordonjcp> moment: I like to have as close as possible to a clone of my server set up on my local machine, so scripty things can work (like Django), and then keep stuff in git and deploy with fabric
[21:14] <Odra> I thought I just had to write msgid / msgstr and be happy. But noooo. :C
[21:14] <gordonjcp> Odra: you do need to put a bit of work in at the development stage, to use the l18n framework
[21:15] <Toph2> could someone please direct me to a channel for computer building and compatibility with Linux
[21:15] <Odra> gordonjcp: The whole project uses getstring / getpluralstring for gettext support
[21:15] <Odra> And it's that big of a project to begin with.
[21:16] <kyubotsu> Toph2: try ##hardware, although am not sure if that's it
[21:16] <Toph2> ok,, thanks
[21:17] <kyubotsu> !hardware
[21:17] <kyubotsu> also, that .. some extra info
[21:18] <DanStamp> Well that certainly didn't work.. what's the easiest way to get to an interface that would allow me to edit xorg.conf without a visual interface?
[21:19] <thufir_> after installing ubuntu server, I installed ubuntu-extras, but am still getting mp3 playback errors:  https://gist.github.com/3841172   are the codes installed?
[21:19] <TJ-> DanStamp: ssh over the network. It's the standard way of testing/fixing X problems when the screen is inoperable
[21:20] <unperson> Well shoot, looks like the workaround given in the bug report doesn't work on 12.04.  So they didn't fix the bug but they "fixed" the workaround.
[21:21] <thufir_> pardon, I actually see that vlc plays mp3's fine, while gnome-mplayer gives:  https://gist.github.com/3841172   so it's not codecs or drivers.
[21:22] <Scunizi> thufir_: perhaps you need ubuntu-restricted-extras or just lame (mp3 decoder)
[21:23] <thufir_> Scunizi: I have extras, and vlc plays fine.  so why not mplayer?  I'll install lame, but why?
[21:23] <DanStamp> so is it just a case of connecting an SSH program to the ip of the machine?
[21:24] <DanStamp> or do you need to enable anything on the machne first?
[21:25] <TJ-> DanStamp: The PC needs to have had "openssh-server" package installed, but after that, yes, you just do "ssh <user>@<IP-or-hostname>"
[21:25] <DanStamp> Oh okay. so i'll have to somehow enable that first.
[21:26] <TJ-> DanStamp: And if you need to install that, when the machine boots hold down Ctrl (or Shift) - can't remember which one for older Ubuntu now - which gets you the boot menu, then choose recovery. That'll boot you to a text recovery console where you can drop to a networking shell as root and do "apt-get install openssh-server" (assuming the machine has an IP address at that point)
[21:27] <tryingUbuntu> Forcast information cannot  be fetched.  Connection cannot be established...   aaaaa  Im connected now.  anyone else have this problem and is there a solution..
[21:27] <xibalba> $5.25/gallon for gas in San Diego
[21:30] <DanStamp> TJ: okay thanks, Do I need to configure it at all or just install it?
[21:30] <TimR_> xibalba: Seems cheap
[21:30] <xibalba> you must be european
[21:30] <TimR_> Indeed :)
[21:31] <neweruser123> hall0o
[21:31] <TJ-> DanStamp: It'll configure itself when you install it, and start itself. Once its installed reboot as normal let the PC have the GUI glitch, then SSH in and look at those log-files
[21:31] <neweruser123> anyone halp meh
[21:31] <moment> isn't www-data supposed to own /var/www ?
[21:31] <moment> or something
[21:31] <neweruser123> hi nee halp wel teh som boady halp meh
[21:31] <john_doe_jr> What does the following command do? sudo dpkg -i libsimias*deb
[21:31] <xibalba> TimR, yeah your prices are high because you're paying for socialism
[21:32] <neweruser123> hi well the somboady  halp me
[21:32] <guntbert> !ot | xibalba
[21:32] <mathfreak> hello neweruser123, what's up?
[21:32] <xibalba> oh please, one line...
[21:32] <neweruser123> i am use kubuntu
[21:32] <TimR> We pay around 12 DKK/litre in Denmark (roughly $8/gallon)
[21:32] <neweruser123> i want to change to ubuntu
[21:32] <xibalba> !ot TimR
[21:32] <john_doe_jr> anybody help me with my question?
[21:32] <bekks> We pay around 1.75€ per litre. </ot>
[21:32] <TimR> It is indeed, innit
[21:32] <john_doe_jr> What does the following command do? sudo dpkg -i libsimias*deb
[21:33] <neweruser123> teh sumboody
[21:33] <mathfreak> neweruser123: you mean you want to switch to the GNOME desktop?
[21:33] <neweruser123> no mathgreak i want to change to ubuntu 100%
[21:33] <bekks> john_doe_jr: It installs all files found (named libsimias*deb) in the current directory.
[21:33] <neweruser123> muon software centaar is rubbish
[21:33] <TimR> xibalba: Let's continue in the offtopic channel shall we?
[21:34] <john_doe_jr> bekks: is the * in the command just a wildcard?
[21:34] <mathfreak> neweruser123: the *buntus are mostly all the same. It's mostly just the desktop environments that are different
[21:34] <crazydip> john_doe_jr: it  installs all the deb files that begin with libsimias and end with deb (hence deb files) - do note, you probably should not be doing this
[21:34] <bekks> john_doe_jr: A wildcard in the filenames, yes.
[21:35] <crazydip> john_doe_jr: you should use apt-get or ubuntu software center to install
[21:35] <neweruser123> but i want ubuntu softwera senter
[21:35] <mathfreak> neweruser123: you can use sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment for the "normal" ubuntu
[21:35] <neweruser123> not muaon software centra
[21:35] <bekks> john_doe_jr: it will find libsimias1.deb and libsimias_withaverylongname.deb too
[21:35] <neweruser123> ok i will try that
[21:35] <xibalba> TimR, no i dont have time.
[21:35] <xibalba> but I'm sure you do! =P
[21:36] <mathfreak> after everything installs, log out. On the login, be sure to select "GNOME environment" or something of the sort for the default desktop
[21:36] <neweruser123> mathfreak:  how will i change back to kbuntu desktop later?
[21:36] <mathfreak> neweruser123: on the login screen, there will be a menu that lets you pick which desktop you want
[21:36] <neweruser123> ohhhokay
[21:36] <neweruser123> i see now
[21:36] <mathfreak> neweruser123: by default, it chooses the desktop environment you were last in.
[21:37] <TimR> xibalba: Well, not really, but I do like a good discussion, good night though
[21:37] <xibalba> take care
[21:37] <jhonnyboy> hey all, when updating linux I'm receiving letters A, U on the left side of the updates. What do these mean?
[21:37] <john_doe_jr> I'm trying to build something…what is a build file?
[21:37] <TimR> Will do
[21:37] <neweruser123> ok thanks il try it
[21:37] <mathfreak> neweruser123: ah, I forgot one thing. You might want to try....
[21:37] <neweruser123> try what
[21:37] <mathfreak> neweruser123: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop instead
[21:37] <neweruser123> the one u said is completed
[21:37] <mathfreak> neweruser123: I just noticed this package in the repos, so it might be a bit more "complete" than just gnome-desktop-environment
[21:38] <DanStamp> Woo there's the SSH connected anyway. Thanks for that TJ.
[21:38] <neweruser123> ok im doing that aswell then
[21:38] <crazydip> jhonnyboy: you need to be more specific - you are using ubuntu? how are you updating?
[21:38] <mathfreak> ok, cool.
[21:38] <jhonnyboy> crazydip: ubuntu apt-get
[21:38] <jhonnyboy> apt-get upgrade
[21:38] <neweruser123> mathfreak:  how do i remove muon softwear and get ubuntu softawre center
[21:39] <mathfreak> neweruser123: I believe the Ubuntu Software Center will be there under the GNome Desktop menu
[21:39] <neweruser123> okook good
[21:39] <TJ-> DanStamp: Which Ubuntu release is it now? 10.04?
[21:40] <crazydip> jhonnyboy: please post what you are getting in pastebin
[21:41] <neweruser123> how do i install all updates
[21:41] <crazydip> !pastebin | jhonnyboy
[21:41] <neweruser123> using konsole
[21:41] <TJ-> DanStamp: It's worth "sudo at-get install pastebinit" since from the PC you can easily paste log-files and other info without needing to copy/paste
[21:41] <mathfreak> neweruser123: To remove muon, I think you can just use sudo apt-get remove muon
[21:41] <TJ-> DanStamp: grrr, typo. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:41] <neweruser123> mathfreak:  ok done
[21:42] <mathfreak> neweruser123: I think you can use sudo apt-get upgrade to update all packages that have new versions available
[21:42] <neweruser123> ok trying that
[21:43] <neweruser123> is the Ubuntu VPS the same as Ubuntu OS
[21:43] <neweruser123> how would i install java on a ubuntu VPS? i dont see any GUI/desktop
[21:43] <mathfreak> I'm not sure about that. Sorry  :S
[21:43] <moment> who is supposed to own the files/folders in /var/www ?
[21:43] <neweruser123> oh
[21:43] <DanStamp> thanks I'll try that.
[21:44] <mathfreak> you can try sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre for Java, I think.
[21:45] <crazydip> neweruser123: vps = virtual private server - it's not a release of ubuntu.... on your vps you probably have either stock or a slightly modified version of ubuntu server
[21:45] <neweruser123> crazydip:  when i bought it said which os i want i clicked ubuntu
[21:46] <crazydip> moment: that depends on what you want
[21:47] <crazydip> moment: maybe you want to ask: "if apache is using /var/www who should be the owner of that folder"
[21:48] <crazydip> moment: you have to give more detail what you are trying to do
[21:48] <bekks> !list > bekks
[21:49] <theseb> help! When I set # desktops to 1 in gconf-editor I now have a COLUMN of desktops instead of the previous 2x2!?!?!?
[21:50] <jrib> theseb: so don't do that?
[21:50] <theseb> jrib: i want 1x1...please..how get that!?!?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> theseb: use ccsm to set desktop size, under general options
[21:50] <theseb> jrib: virtual desktops are annoying for me cuz I alwasy accidentally put apps in neighboring desktop
[21:51] <crazydip> theseb: what option are you chanign in gconf?
[21:51] <theseb> crazydip: let me check..one min
[21:52] <crazydip> ActionParsnip: from what i know, ubuntu devs frown upon suggestin ccms to non-advanced users cause it's easy to break stuff
[21:52] <theseb> crazydip: apps=>metacity=>general=>num-desktops
[21:52] <theseb> crazydip: i mean =>num_workspaces
[21:52] <theseb> crazydip: should setting that to 1 be enough?
[21:52] <tuxwizard> hi :)
[21:52] <Bubba> Anyone here do some black hat or cracking?
[21:53] <crazydip> theseb: wait, why are you using metacity? what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:53] <DanStamp> Oh and TJ you asked earlier which version of the OS I was using. I'm currently in 8.04 as that was the last to have an official release of the card drivers.
[21:53] <rump> can i install just a couple packages from 12.04 from 10.04? or is it an all or nothing sort of thing?  i just want the updated php/apc/nginx/mysql/etc.  (server)
[21:53] <crazydip> rump: see backports
[21:54] <theseb> crazydip: 12.04....some random web page i found for 12.04 said to change that
[21:54] <Bubba> Is that a no?
[21:54] <theseb> crazydip: is that bad?
[21:54] <jrib> rump: if you want new software, why not just upgrade to 12.04?
[21:54] <rump> crazydip: ty
[21:54] <theseb> Bubba: what are you trying to do?
[21:54] <crazydip> theseb: why would to go back to metacity?
[21:54] <theseb> crazydip: no idea...i don't know what metacity is
[21:54] <Bubba> Did you see my first question?
[21:54] <rump> jrib: i just tried and it ended in error and everything halted and it was really ugly... just restored from backup
[21:54] <theseb> Bubba: no
[21:54] <jrib> !ot | Bubba
[21:54] <rump> jrib: like 2 hrs down time
[21:54] <jrib> rump: I see...
[21:55] <FireStorms> Is there any software like Subversion (svn) that'll enable you to mange the same project in different development phases e.g., testing, production. I like the look of subversion. but I work solo so I don't need all those extra feature so if I can cut the learning curve of SVN by learning something less complicated that'd be good.
[21:55] <Bubba> jrib: what?
[21:55] <crazydip> theseb: wait wait, you changed your window manager to metacity and you don't know why? did compiz not work for you?
[21:55] <TJ-> DanStamp: OK... I asked because of "pastebinit" there is a version of that in 8.04, but it is pretty basic so you may need to do "man pastebinit" to check out how best to use it. I think in older versions to paste a file you had to do "cat </path/to/file> | pastebinit" - later versions let you do "pastebinit </path/to/file>"
[21:55] <crazydip> theseb: are you using unity or unity2d?
[21:55] <jrib> Bubba: this channel is for ubuntu support, not "black hat" or "cracking"
[21:55] <TJ-> FireStorms: "git"
[21:55] <crazydip> theseb: or something else?
[21:55] <theseb> crazydip: unity3d
[21:56] <Bubba> jrib: my bad
[21:56] <DanStamp> TJ: Thanks. Working on that right now.
[21:56] <theseb> crazydip: or 3d....i presume from your comment that metacity is a window manager...ok sorry...
[21:56] <crazydip> FireStorms: don't use svn, please not svn.... check out bzr (bazaar - it's what ubuntu devs use) or git (what linux kernel uses)
[21:56] <Bubba> Ok then. I recently downloaded this ubuntu. Convince me on why I should stick to this and not any other OS.
[21:57] <jrib> Bubba: use whatever works for you
[21:57] <TJ-> Bubba: Convince yourself... try to break it!
[21:57] <Bubba> TJ: I honestly downloaded it because it is the easiest to overwrite..
[21:58] <TJ-> Bubba: Anything is easy to overwrite with 'dd'
[21:58] <FireStorms> Thanks for suggestions guys, I'll take a peel at Git
[21:58] <theseb> crazydip: so you can't tweak unity with gconf-editor? you need myunity or cccm?
[21:59] <Bubba> TJ: Isnt dd the low-level unix?
[21:59] <DanStamp> TJ: okay, here's the logs as of right now, http://pastebin.com/P7DwHKiH and http://pastebin.com/H8M8Jt2B
[21:59] <jrib> theseb: the settings are probably in dconf/gsettings now though you'd still have to know where.  gconf/dconf/gsettings were never meant to be manipulated directly by the user
[22:00] <unperson> FireStorms, You might also check out mercurial or even the graphical front end tortoisehg
[22:00] <crazydip> theseb: if you're using metacity that means you probably are using unity2d in which case from what i know there is some idiotic block that requires a minimum of 2x2 (an even number) of virtual desktops/spaces
[22:00] <TJ-> DanStamp: yummy.... data!
[22:01] <DanStamp> TJ: haha yeah. Heckloads of it.  No screens found doesn't look particularly great.
[22:01] <FireStorms> unperson, I've herard of them both I'll take a look thank you :)
[22:01] <crazydip> theseb: but i could be wrong - i never used unity2d so it's just what i heard :)
[22:01] <erictr1ck> so i just noticed that when logging in i have the opting of choosing gnome and kde desktops. i certainly did not go out of my way to install these so what are the possible ways they were installed? also, how can i get rid of them?
[22:01] <unperson> FireStorms, Sure.  I learned mercurial as a complete version control n00b and it was pretty easy for the most part.
[22:02] <DanStamp> TJ: There could be an error in the xorg.conf too so I'll check that over too.
[22:02] <rump> crazydip: unfortunately doesn't have any of those packages heh
[22:02] <unperson> FireStorms, Overall, I think that git, bazaar (bzr), and mercurial (hg) are pretty similar, so it doesn't make *that* much difference.
[22:02] <tfitts> in ubuntu server my time is an hour slow even though it seems like my time zone is right (MST) and I just ran ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com.  Any idea why this would be?
[22:02] <crazydip> FireStorms: one other thing: bzr has a killer gui and tends to be easier to use that git (which has a much lower quality gui)
[22:03] <TJ-> DanStamp: I'll take some time reading the kernel.log line-by-line so I get a feel for the hardware... might be a few minutes staying quiet
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> crazydip: works for basic stuff
[22:04] <unperson> FireStorms, As far as I could tell, it seemed to be bzr > hg > git in terms of user-friendliness and the opposite ordering in terms of power and efficiency.  But I think if you're not an extreme power user the difference is probably not huge.
[22:04] <gordonjcp> crazydip: why would you want a GUI for a source control system?
[22:04] <DanStamp> Thanks a lot TJ, I really apreciate it as this thing's been causing me trouble for a long time.  if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
[22:04] <gordonjcp> crazydip: I mean, how would you represent that in a GUI?
[22:05] <unperson> crazydip, Any idea of the relative usership of each?  My impression is the bzr community is by far the smallest, but that may not be true at all.
[22:05] <theseb> crazydip: I fixed problem easily with ccsm! now i'm a ccsm fan...THANKS!
[22:05] <crazydip> theseb: awesome!
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> theseb: simple times, use it as little as you can
[22:06] <zykes-> how can I tcpdump and show VLAN tags?
[22:06] <theseb> ActionParsnip: actually now i'm tempted to press all buttons in ccsm and see what happens
[22:06] <theseb> ActionParsnip: everybody says you can hose your desktop if you do that
[22:06] <unperson> gordonjcp, GUIs do sometimes have the merit of it being easier to discover new functions.
[22:07] <crazydip> gordonjcp: gui is really nice for example when looking at the log/history - i love bzr-explorer but don't like any git gui
[22:07] <unperson> gordonjcp, OTOH, they're always lacking in features versus the cmd line in these things.
[22:07] <TJ-> DanStamp: Whilst I read, can you pastebin this: "lspci -nn >/tmp/hardware.log; lsusb >>/tmp/hardware.log; cat /tmp/hardware.log | pastebinit"
[22:07] <unperson> gordonjcp, But I found it was a good way to get others hooked.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> theseb: your call, its not advised to use it really
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> theseb: you could ask in #compiz
[22:08] <gordonjcp> crazydip: how does that work?
[22:08] <unperson> gordonjcp, In my case I was getting non-programmers to use it for collaboration on documents (in LaTeX).
[22:08] <theseb> ActionParsnip: well then how else do you turn on cool features like rotation cubes and crap like that?!
[22:08] <theseb> :)
[22:08] <FireStorms> I went with Git purely on the basis that Netbans has a plugin - that's always a good sign :D
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> theseb: I personally don't bother with all that junk
[22:09] <crazydip> theseb: officially you shouldn't but of course you can do whatever you want (i use ccsm heavily)
[22:10] <theseb> ActionParsnip: to be honest....if i had more than i workspace i would imagine you'd "forget" about all the apps you had lying around
[22:10] <DanStamp> TJ thing, just let me finish restarting it.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> theseb: I use about 5 apps so I'm all good :)
[22:11] <crazydip> gordonjcp: i'm not sure what your question is - if you wan't to see it (and you use bzr) just install bzr-explorer - for git it's git-cola but i don't think it's that great so not sure if i'll use it
[22:11] <theseb> ActionParsnip: yea and i just move between them with Alt-Tab
[22:11] <theseb> ActionParsnip: what's not to love about that? simple and works
[22:11] <gordonjcp> crazydip: well, I don't know how you'd have a GUI for version control
[22:11] <gordonjcp> crazydip: it just kind of doesn't make sense to me
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> theseb: true Alt+Tab is great
[22:12] <unperson> gordonjcp, I don't use git, but doesn't it have some facility for displaying the relationship of commits in a repository graphically?
[22:12] <unperson> (even the hg command line does this in ascii art)
[22:12] <gordonjcp> unperson: does it?
[22:12] <crazydip> gordonjcp: makes sense to me, if its a good gui :) for what i need out of bzr, bzr-explorer has me covered
[22:12] <cimo> s'il vous plait j'ai développé une application par Qt Creator mais la résulta n'affiche pas en terminal
[22:12] <gordonjcp> !fr | cimo
[22:13] <cimo> s'il vous plait j'ai développé une application par Qt Creator mais la résulta n'affiche pas en terminal
[22:14] <crazydip> cimo: #ubuntu-fr s'il vous plait!
[22:14] <DanStamp> TJ: It came up with the error SPCI not found. But here's what it got otherwise.
[22:14] <DanStamp> http://pastebin.com/0qyYujE8
[22:15] <gordonjcp> crazydip: ouais, vous obtiendrez plus de aide dans #ubuntu-fr
[22:15] <gordonjcp> crazydip: tha mi duillich
[22:15] <gordonjcp> cimo: ouais, vous obtiendrez plus de aide dans #ubuntu-fr
[22:18] <jta_afk> hi peeps!
[22:18] <ohzie> Is there a way to get unity to not group up my windows in alt+tab? If I'm asking the incorrect question, but you can tell from the context of my question what I *should* be asking, please let me know.
[22:19] <jta> hey, what's the name of movement where people go to a hotel or some type of room and bring sleeping bags and do like hackathons or coding marathons???
[22:19] <jta> it's got a specific name and I know Ubuntu people have been involved in them...
[22:20] <cimo> please I developed an application for Qt Creator but the result does not display in terminal
[22:20] <crazydip> gordonjcp: in case you're interested, bzr for git users (i'm reading up on git for bzr users): http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/survival/bzr-for-git-users.html
[22:22] <erictr1ck> im not sure how or when, but kde plasma workspace got installed on my machine. how do i remove it?
[22:22] <dr_willis> cimo:  thats rather 'broad' and 'vague'
[22:22] <unsobill> hey guys - how can i have wallpaper changing on second monitor in dual screen setup ?
[22:23] <Amzul> hi, i have download ubuntu server image for my virtual box. what is the login user and password? i tried ubuntu with no password and ubuntu with ubuntu password but both ar incorrect.
[22:23] <Amzul> are*
[22:23] <dr_willis> unsobill:  one wide desktop? or 2 seperate X sessions?
[22:23] <jrib> Amzul: what did you download exactly?
[22:23] <unsobill> yea its wide desktop with 2 screens
[22:23] <unsobill> 2 x sessions would eat my ram/cpu no ?
[22:23] <Amzul> ubuntu-12.04-server-i386.vdi ubuntu server 12
[22:24] <jrib> Amzul: from where?
[22:24] <Benxyzzy> Often, I will open my laptop and the unlock screen dialog (where I enter my password) will fail to appear. So far the best solution I've found is to forcibly restart X (ALT+SysRq+K) and log in again. This kills all my GUI programs (i.e. all my programs), which I then have to reopen and deal with any lost data. Does anyone have a way that I can force the screen unlock dialog to appear without killing everything?
[22:24] <dr_willis> unsobill:  I think you have to do some fancy scripting and make some really wide wallpapers. :) i dident even think unity/compiz had seperate wallpapers per monitor features
[22:24] <Amzul> http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu-server/
[22:24] <unsobill> oh well then
[22:24] <TJ-> DanStamp: Hmmm, no "lspci" ... try that part again, it maybe you mis-copied. "lspci " stands for LiSt Peripheral Component Interconnect devices
[22:24] <unsobill> as long as it doesnt crash anymore im okay lol
[22:24] <DanStamp> Alright TJ: I fixed up a typo in the xorg.conf and that's removed the fatal screen error.  Still seeing absolutely nothing but http://pastebin.com/HhF1NqTU is the update.
[22:24] <dr_willis> Amzul:  you would have to check the docs for that image where it came from i think. its not an official ubuntu image as far as i know.
[22:25] <jrib> Amzul: well on that page it lists username/password combinations.  Did you try them...?
[22:25] <Amzul> sorry i didnt see it :(
[22:25] <crazydip> ohzie: i'm not sure i'm not seeing an option to turn that off... it's also not a separate plugin but built into unity which is dumb so you probably can't replace it with another switcher unless you turn off unity - but i'm not sure
[22:26] <jrib> Amzul: I'd recommend just grabbing the ubuntu server install iso and installing from there though.  I have no idea who creates those .vdi files you are using
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy, Is the computer going to sleep or hibernate with a lid close?
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[22:26] <Amzul> dr_willis: is there an official image for VM?
[22:26] <Amzul> jrib: yes its working thanks
[22:27] <DanStamp> TJ: And you're right, sorry about that.  Here's the  lscpci report http://pastebin.com/tnjmn8hT
[22:27] <crazydip> Amzul: no i don't think so - i always used ubuntu server iso - they do have specialized images for amazon ec2, etc. but not for virtualbox afaik
 unconference or barcamp maybe?  woohoo (s)he got it....it's the barcamp open space movement!
[22:28] <jta> thanks to all that helped
[22:28] <Benxyzzy> wilee-nilee: Not hibernating or sleeping, just locking screen. When I open it again I can only see my desktop wallpaper. I should be seeing a dialog on top where I can enter my password and it gives me all my open windows back. But sometimes I don't get that dialog.
[22:28] <TJ-> DanStamp: Your latest Xorg.0..log looks promising - the chrome driver has kicked in at least.
[22:29] <DanStamp> TJ: Yeah, I suspect it might actually be running, only the monitor could be out of range or something?
[22:31] <DanStamp> TJ: Oh here we go. I found the default boot command the previous owner was using to boot into knoppix.  "Kernel /boot/linux24 root=/dev/hda1 quiet vga=794 noacpi noapm nodma noscsi frugal"  I don't know if that's useful, but the vga-794 line strikes me as a bit interesting.
[22:32] <Nightpenguin> My headphones are only playing through the right ear.
[22:32] <TJ-> DanStamp: We need to cross-check using Google, but it may-be that the X driver is being startved of resources because the VIA framebuffer driver is loading early in kernel start-up , and according to kern.log is claiming 16MB of video RAM and switching to a colour framebuffer
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> Benxyzzy I suspect this is a computer model orientated problem, have you looked on the web with the distro you're running and the model, and the symptoms?
[22:33] <sidney_> I'm using 10.04.4 when I click the top panel my both panels disappears.
[22:34] <Nightpenguin> Can someone help me with these headphones on 12.04? They only play through the right side.
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> Nightpenguin, There plugged in all the way, and you have looked in the sound preferences?
[22:35] <TJ-> DanStamp: the framebuffer driver is "vt8623fb" ... you could try blacklisting it. It's a long time since I used 8.04 so you'll need to check where to blacklist it. If it is the same as recent versions, you should see some other blacklist files by doing "ls /etc/modprobe.d/"
[22:35] <ffk27> nightpenguin, dit you check the sound preferences at balance?
[22:35] <Nightpenguin> wilee-nilee: Yes, I've plugged/unplugged them multiple times, the balance is set in the middle.
[22:36] <Nightpenguin> I tried setting it all the way right and all the way left but it seems that the left channel is just being ignored.
[22:36] <Nightpenguin> If I use the test mode, I can hear the right side but not the left.
[22:36] <DanStamp> TJ: There's a blacklist-framebuffer file in there, aye
[22:36] <ffk27> maby its broken
[22:36] <sidney_> Nightpenguin,  have you tried them in another device
[22:37] <Nightpenguin> I have not, but they worked fine before I updated to 12.04 from 10.04
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> Nightpenguin, open a terminal and type alsamixer and check there as well
[22:37] <Nightpenguin> In addition, they no longer have an entry in the hardware list; but they play through.
[22:37] <Nightpenguin> I checked alsamixer already.
[22:38] <DanStamp> TJ: So just add "blacklist vt8623fb" to that?
[22:39] <ffk27> nightpenguin maby this ppa will help https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+index?field.series_filter=precise
[22:39] <TJ-> DanStamp: OK, this may not be it, but try this and reboot: "echo "blacklist vt8623fb" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/vt8623fb.conf"
[22:39] <ffk27> install the package dkms-hda
[22:40] <Nightpenguin> ffk27, wilee-nilee, sidney_: Er... never mind. The headphones seem to have broken. Sorry to bother everyone; I should have checked that first.
[22:40] <TJ-> DanStamp: looks like we may be onto something - known bug #208137
[22:42] <DanStamp> Ooh..
[22:44] <t432> i have to use ./program to start a software i just installed, i'd like to just type the name without "./" can i do that?
[22:45] <szal> what software, and how did you install it?
[22:46] <t432> szal: its called "matlab" and I used the software's default installed in method e.g. ./launcher
[22:46] <t432> install*
[22:46] <TJ-> t432: The enviroment PATH contains lists of directories that are searched, in order, to launch any program when you don't type the path to the binary explicitly. If you've installed something in your home directory, the system looks for and searches the ~/bin/ directory if it exists for your own executables.
[22:46] <atrius> odd... my new install of ubuntu server isn't giving that nice chunk of info on login anymore
[22:46] <LoOoD> anyone know why the installer would pause for 5+ minutes after getting the Packages.gz file?
[22:47] <TJ-> atrius: MOTD? That is omitted if the system load is high at log-in time
[22:47] <t432> software is installed in following dir : /usr/local/MATLAB/R2012a/bin$
[22:47] <ffk27> set that in the path
[22:48] <ffk27> or make a symlink
[22:48] <t432> i tried creating a symlink to /usr/share/bin
[22:48] <ffk27> use /usr/local/bin
[22:48] <DanStamp> TJ: That is some DEFINITE progress.  As it loaded up a whole bunch of "£" signs appeared along the top of the screen, then it actually loaded a full screen graphic.  So it's currently sat on a Orange to Light orange background. But with no mouse cursor or login screen.
[22:49] <atrius> TJ-: system load isn't high.. just the MOTD doesn't include that information
[22:50] <t432> sudo ln -s matlab /usr/local/bin/matlab
[22:50] <t432> ln: accessing `/usr/local/bin/matlab': Too many levels of symbolic links
[22:51] <TJ-> DanStamp: WooHoo! OK, can you pastebin the current /var/log/Xorg.0.log , /var/log/kern.log , and /home/$USER/.xsession-errors   ?
[22:51] <t432> ?
[22:51] <TJ-> atrius: "sudo update-motd"
[22:51] <crazydip> t432: sounds like /usr/local/bin/matlab is itself a symbolic link
[22:52] <dr_willis> t432:  you are in the same dir as you are making a link to?
[22:52] <t432> yes
[22:52] <dr_willis> give full paths to both arguments
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> LoOoD, Could be any number of things,  you want a guess?
[22:52] <dr_willis> sounds like you are linking it to itself.
[22:53] <dr_willis> t432:  or just make a script that cd's to the right dir, then runs the binary
[22:53] <ffk27> ln -s /usr/local/mathlab/orsomthing /usr/local/bin/mathlab
[22:54] <t432> got it
[22:54] <atrius> TJ-: update-motd was missing
[22:54] <atrius> werid
[22:55] <TJ-> atrius: It would explain your symptoms though :p
[22:55] <atrius> indeed
[22:55] <crazydip> t432: you can also place your symlink in ~/bin/ which will be more proper in my opinion if you are trying to make it work just for you and not for multiple users
[22:55] <atrius> lol
[22:55] <DanStamp> Whoa, okay this is interesting! I've realised what it's doing. It's zoomed in on a TINY bit of the screen.  I'll grab a photo.
[22:56] <Odra> How do I install brazilian support for ubuntu?
[22:56] <TJ-> DanStamp: OK... how about this... your physical screen resolution is lower than the virtual screen the video chips create, so the video driver provides a panning option.
[22:57] <DanStamp> TJ: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/956557/P1070028.JPG That's the mouse cursor there.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> Odra, What is your definition of support?
[22:57] <Odra> Great question.
[22:57] <Odra> I have no idea.
[22:57] <dr_willis> TJ-:  thats old skool. :) havent seen that in ages.
[22:57] <TJ-> DanStamp: ahhh!
[22:57] <Odra> Something make glibc work under LANG=pt_BR perhaps?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> Odra  ask in #ubuntu-br
[22:58] <TJ-> dr_willis: You can configure panning with xrandr, its quite jazzy
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> Odra, There is no OS support per-say I believe, is it language?
[22:58] <dr_willis> That Pan on large displays was common ages ago when we had bigger virtual desktops then the physical monitor could show.
[22:58] <TJ-> DanStamp: Let me see the latest Xorg.0.log
[22:58] <dr_willis> TJ-:  I couldent get it enabled last i tried on a netbook.    needed it for Wesnoth that dident like the 'short' res of the netbook.
[22:59] <TJ-> dr_willis: I just found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Panning_viewport
[22:59] <dr_willis> TJ-:  last time i saw it mentioned inhere.. it was enabled for a guy that thoughtit was some weird bug. ;)
[22:59] <DanStamp> I suspect the horizontal resolution there is close to right.
[22:59] <TJ-> dr_willis: I hit it once or twice on older hardware
[22:59] <TJ-> DanStamp: show us the xorg.conf too
[22:59] <TJ-> DanStamp: I don't think you're too far off having this licked
[22:59] <DanStamp> sure.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> Odra, YOu might ask in #ubuntu-br there is Brazilian and Portuguese support there if needed.
[23:00] <DanStamp> Yeah me too. disabling that driver was a BIG thing.
[23:01] <TJ-> DanStamp: As I'm always repeating... the clues are always in the logs. But finding them and recognising them is another thing!
[23:01] <crazydip> Odra: maybe these links will help: http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/prefs-language.html
[23:02] <DanStamp> Yeah definitely.  Whenever I'm in here I take notes on everything everyone tells me.  I'm pretty much new to linux so this is all really helpful stuff.
[23:02] <Odra> crazydip: Thanks
[23:03] <chris_99> anyone know what could cause this wifi de-auth http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262879/
[23:04] <DanStamp> TJ: One xorg config. http://pastebin.com/W42JtBK4
[23:04] <Daghdha> Is it possible to increase window norder width in Unity?
[23:04] <DanStamp> Hopefully its just a silly mistake on my behalf somewhere now.
[23:05] <Daghdha> If i want to resize it's a 1 pixel area i can hit, and i am on remote desktop. It is realy realy HARD
[23:06] <the_dudez0r> hi, I removed pulseaudio and qjackctl and installed them back, but now the gnome applet that's automatically loaded and enables me to control volume and output devices is gone, and I can't change my output devices, how can I get it back?
[23:06] <crazydip> Daghdha: change the theme
[23:06] <KM0201> the_dudez0r: sudo apt-get pavucontrol ?   i don't know if that will let you get the gnome applet back, but it should let you set your devices, etc
[23:07] <Aaronds> Hi, is it possible to run an executable without root permissions, while being logged in as root?
[23:07] <crazydip> Daghdha: more specifically, change the window theme
[23:07] <KM0201> Aaronds: logged in as root?
[23:07] <ffk27> aaronds do su - another user
[23:07] <escott> Aaronds, su -c /full/path/to/username username
[23:07] <escott> Aaronds, su -c /full/path/to/command username
[23:07] <Aaronds> ok cheers guys
[23:08] <Error404NotFound> I tried to upgrade my oneiric vm to precise and i am stuck on: http://pastebin.ca/2240081 apt-get install -f gives same output, this is probably a openvz vm
[23:08] <bekks> Error404NotFound: Well, which kernel version do you have in your vm?
[23:09] <bekks> uname -a
[23:09] <Error404NotFound> bekks: check pastebin, its there
[23:09] <bekks> Thats a 2.6.18 -- no chance to proceed then.
[23:09] <szal> 2.6.18 isn't Oneiric, that's Hardy or something
[23:10] <bekks> WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version
[23:10] <bekks> 2.6.24 or later.
[23:10] <bekks> No chance
[23:10] <jordanm> openvz runs on the host's kernel, the .18 is probably RHEL 5 actually
[23:10] <Error404NotFound> bekks: szal: its openvz, old openvz hosts supply that kernel unfortunately
[23:10] <Error404NotFound> jordanm: true
[23:10] <bekks> Error404NotFound: No chance then.
[23:10] <jta> laters guys...nice checking in on you...
[23:11] <crazydip> Error404NotFound bekks its possible but a ***HUGE*** (super emphasis) pain in the butt
[23:11] <crazydip> i know i've done it
[23:11] <crazydip> i've even dist-upgraded debian -> ubuntu years ago :D
[23:12] <the_dudez0r> hi, I removed pulseaudio and qjackctl and installed them back, but now the gnome applet that's automatically loaded and enables me to control volume and output devices is gone, and I can't change my output devices, how can I get it back?
[23:12] <natacado> any suggestions how to determine what's wrong when an network install over a serial console hangs, doesn't display anything, but continues functioning if you press enter? (trying to get a completely-automated install working for a cluster)
[23:13] <TJ-> DanStamp: Did you pastebin the most recent Xorg.0.log? As an aside, I'm reading that you can simply use the standard VESA VGA driver with that chipset. Which would allow you to install 12.04 on it in theory. As long as that vt8623fb is blacklisted.
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> natacado  that line sounds frustrated and upset, rephrase and start from the beginning, what brings you here
[23:14] <DanStamp> I tried installing 12.04 on it but it was REALLY slow.
[23:14] <seledec> hola alguien me puede ayudar configurar el wifi no me lo detecta ubuntu
[23:14] <escott> !es | seledec
[23:14] <crazydip> Error404NotFound: it's extremely volatile and there is no "how-to" because every system is a little different... if you go through with it, you'll be doing a lot of force installing and removing of packages
[23:15] <DanStamp> also with it not supporting PAE i had to install 10 and then upgrade.  That said though, I'd love to upgrade to 10, and use the openchrome driver or the vesa driver if those work..
[23:15] <szal> MonkeyDust: huh?
[23:15] <Error404NotFound> crazydip: hmmm, i was thinking to shift hosts anyway :P
[23:15] <natacado> MonkeyDust: I'm installing 12.04 to a cluster of machines via network installer. I monitor it via IPMI/serial over lan. It works great, except at 31% through the installer progress it just… hangs. I press enter on the serial console, it continues running to completion.
[23:15] <DanStamp> oh and sorry i thought you wanted xorg.conf which i did link.
[23:15] <DanStamp> i'll grab the log.
[23:15] <escott> natacado, some installation packages require you to agree to a license. might it be that
[23:16] <TJ-> DanStamp: Well, firstly, you wouldn't install Ubuntu unity, you'd put something like Lubuntu on there which uses the lightweight GUI LXDE
[23:16] <crazydip> Error404NotFound: good idea :)
[23:17] <natacado> escott: I thought about that… I don't think that's the case because that would normally bring up a dialog to accept it (i still have the alternative-installer UI over serial - in this case it's just a stuck progress bar)
[23:19] <TJ-> DanStamp: actually, it seems even Lubuntu stopped at 10.04 with support for the Via chipset/CPU
[23:19] <DanStamp> Oh heh.
[23:19] <natacado> very small excerpt from the install log showing a long delay (where i investigated on physical console before giving up and hitting enter on serial console): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262897/
[23:19] <DanStamp> Well lubuntu 10.04 would be fine.
[23:19] <DanStamp> I really don't need a super-uptodate operating system on it.
[23:19] <DanStamp> Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/93nkwv4q
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> DanStamp: its more about getting security updates and so forth
[23:21] <DanStamp> Ah okay.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> DanStamp, If it is a pae kernel problem with 12.04 you can do a mini cd netinstal.
[23:21] <TJ-> DanStamp: If you consider using 10.04, this link will help you get the minimal Lubuntu 10.04  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Downloading
[23:21] <Sokel> best command ever: echo -e "I\v\t\ts\v\tu\v\tc\v\tk\v\t\tc\v\to\v\tc\v\tk\v\t"'!'
[23:22] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: The device has a Via CPU that isn't supported by the kernel in Ubuntu beyond 10.04
[23:22] <TJ-> DanStamp: Looking at the log now
[23:22] <DanStamp> Yeah. Interesting stuff happens at @350
[23:23] <DanStamp> at line 350.
[23:23] <Sokel> echo -e "I\v\t\ts\v\tu\v\tc\v\tk\v\t\tc\v\to\v\tc\v\tk\v\t"'!'
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> Sokel  wrong channel
[23:23] <bkerensa> Sokel: cut it out now
[23:23] <Sokel> QQ BRO
[23:23] <bkerensa> !guidelines > Sokel
[23:24] <TJ-> DanStamp: Very interesting - the H/Vsync settings are NOT whats in the conf!
[23:24] <Sokel> All I hear is qq
[23:24] <DanStamp> Indeed!
[23:25] <atrius> huh... motd updates still aren't working
[23:25] <DanStamp> Same with the hsync.
[23:27] <brightsparks> I have ubuntu 8.04 on a hard drive. I think it's file system 3?? I have the option to automatically update it but I'm puzzled how the file system will be affected? Don't I have to manually format the drive or something. So what happens if I automatically update to say 10.04?
[23:27] <dr_willis> brightsparks:  it will stay with ext3
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> brightsparks  8.04 server?
[23:27] <brightsparks> dr_willis: hi that was fast! Yeah that's what I thought
[23:28] <brightsparks> MonkeyDust: server? no I don't think so
[23:28] <escott> brightsparks, you can convert ext3 to ext4 very easily, but you would have to copy any larger files to benefit from the ext4 features
[23:28] <brightsparks> escott: tell me more!
[23:29] <brightsparks> MonkeyDust: did you mean I could use 8.04 as a server?
[23:29] <escott> brightsparks, the main feature of ext4 is extents (more efficient storage of large files). by copying files to new locations you can force the allocation of extents for the larger files
[23:30] <TJ-> DanStamp: this ought to help us by knowing additional options we can use in the "driver" section of xorg.conf  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man4/via.4.html
[23:30] <brightsparks> Right
[23:30] <brightsparks> I'll just that (lol)
[23:31] <Songcat> How can I rescue files from a bad hard drive on the Ubuntu Live CD? In all the guides about it there's either a "Computer" icon on Nautilus, or a "Devices" list, and then you can find your hard drive from there, but that's not true for me.
[23:31] <TJ-> DanStamp: notice the CRT and Panel specific options
[23:31] <DanStamp> If its any help, here's the README file for the drivers i installed earlier. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/956557/README
[23:31] <szal> Songcat: what exactly is not true for you?
[23:32] <brightsparks> I'll just google that I mean't to say (lol)
[23:32] <DanStamp> Well its actually running on the bios option "LCD" not "CRT" if that makes a difference.
[23:33] <DanStamp> as the CRT option is for the external VGA.
[23:33] <brightsparks> escott: you couldn't refer me to a website that would explain what you said in more detail could you?
[23:33] <Songcat> szal: On the side of Nautilus where bookmarks/Network and things go, there isn't a "Devices" section. There's a Computer section, but not a "Computer" icon anywhere. And no devices show up on the desktop. (I can re-find the guides that want me to use those things if that helps?)
[23:33] <TJ-> DanStamp: thanks, that's a great help in narrowing down what it'll accept and be useful
[23:33] <escott> brightsparks, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html
[23:34] <brightsparks> escott: great. Thanks v much
[23:34] <DanStamp> I wonder if it actually NEEDS those user defined resolution modelines.
[23:34] <TJ-> DanStamp: And that immediately led me to this in the README: "option "Center"       If you don't set this option, LCD's default mode will be in expand mode." - "expand mode"  might be that zoom-effect you saw
[23:35] <szal> Songcat: I guess that the guides you use are outdated then (Gnome 2 vs. Gnome 3/Unity).. and I also guess that the 'Computer' section in Nautilus is what you're looking for (I hardly ever use anything smelling of Gnome ;))
[23:35] <DanStamp> Ooh okay.
[23:35] <TJ-> DanStamp: also, see section 1.5.4 of README
[23:35] <DanStamp> I can certainly give it a go.
[23:37] <chile> happy to join
[23:37] <DanStamp> What would I want in for the LCDPort option?  option "LCDPort" and then what?
[23:39] <DanStamp> As in, do you have any idea between DFP low, high, highlow, or DVP 0, or 1?
[23:40] <Songcat> szal: Where under Computer? /media and /dev under File System are the only things that seem like they could be it, and they just have empty folders. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16623407/Screenshot%20from%202012-10-05%2017%3A37%3A20.png
[23:41] <Songcat> This is the guide that wants me to click a non-existent "Computer" icon: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/ And a guide that wants me to use gparted: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ Except gparted doesn't work.
[23:42] <szal> Songcat: tried /mnt?
[23:42] <Songcat> szal: Empty.
[23:43] <ffk27> songcat you use ubuntu live cd?
[23:43] <TJ-> DanStamp: I'd say ommit that for now - we know the driver has already found the display and is talking to it in a semi-sane way. I think the options to deal with are those controlling resolution of the screen and/or signal timing. It can't hurt to temporarily comment-out the "ServerLayout", "ConfiguredMonitor" sections, and the lines in "Screen" that refer to "Configured Monitor" and all the "SubSection Display" entries. Try to reduce the situation to minimum manual o
[23:43] <TJ-> ver-rides and see if the driver will just do-the-right-thing
[23:43] <szal> Songcat: are you sure the device you're looking for is connected, powered, and in working condition?
[23:43] <Songcat> ffk27: I am!
[23:43] <ffk27> open a terminal
[23:43] <ffk27> and write palimpsest
[23:43] <DanStamp> TJ: centering the screen helped a lot.
[23:44] <Songcat> szal: I'm trying to view the laptop's main hard drive; I can't boot into it (pretty sure it failed) but apparently I'm supposed to still be able to look at it from the live cd?
[23:44] <DanStamp> TJ: It's the right size now, but offset by about 1/4th the screen.  I'll try commenting out stuff though.
[23:44] <szal> Songcat: depends on what 'failed' actually means
[23:44] <dr_willis> Songcat:  the 'computer' icon to connect to a server may be the  called from the 'connect to server' menu item in nautilus, or perhaps from the  'network'/browse network item in nautilus's left side panel
[23:45] <ffk27> look at the smart data in palimpsest
[23:45] <TJ-> DanStamp: Is the cursor normal now?
[23:45] <dr_willis> Songcat:  you could try mounting the filesystem by hand. If theres some sort of HD error it may give an error message
[23:45] <TJ-> DanStamp: I'd think the offset is caused by those bad H/Vsync values it was reporting
[23:46] <DanStamp> It is normal yeah.  I'm still going to try commenting out all of that though.. see how that looks.
[23:46] <Songcat> ffk27: http://paste.kde.org/563192/34948076/
[23:46] <TJ-> DanStamp: progess indeed :)
[23:47] <Songcat> dr_willis: How? I tried "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force" on all the partions I can see from fdisk -l, but it gives an error "The device '/dev/sda' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS."
[23:48] <szal> Songcat: indicating that the filesystem is trashed
[23:48] <Songcat> dr_willis: Also "Browse Network" leads to a folder containing something called "Windows Network". If I click on it, an error dialogue pops up that says "Unable to mount location" and "Failed to retrieve share list from server".
[23:49] <szal> Songcat: in that case your only chance might be connecting that disk to a working Windows system & running chkdsk on it
[23:49] <dr_willis> Songcat:  it wouldent be 'sda1' and if the filesystem is indeed currupted - that would make sence.
[23:49] <dr_willis> Songcat:  err. i mean it would be 'sda1' not 'sda' ;)
[23:49] <dr_willis> Songcat:  network stuff is for windows shares.
[23:50] <dr_willis> Songcat:  you may want to pastebnin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' for us to look at
[23:50] <ffk27> strange bug you got in palimpsest
[23:50] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[23:51] <szal> ffk27: probably some permissions thing; if palimpsest contains SMART data then it likely needs to be run as superuser
[23:52] <Songcat> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1262948/
[23:52] <dr_willis> Songcat:  /dev/sdb1   *          62     8047227     4023583    b  W95 FAT32
[23:52] <dr_willis> Songcat:  its sdb1  and its NOT ntfs.. its 'vfat'
[23:52] <Songcat> szal I'll try and figure out if I can connect to a Windows system to run chkdsk.
[23:53] <dr_willis> Songcat:  unless you have a totally failed hard drive.. thats not showing up at all.
[23:53] <DanStamp> Oh hah. Okay commenting out everything gave me a resolution of like.. 1024 * 1.
[23:53] <szal> Songcat: I don't see an NTFS disk there
[23:53] <dr_willis> sdb1 would look like a 4 gb usb flash to me...
[23:53] <ffk27> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[23:54] <ffk27> ls /mnt
[23:54] <Songcat> ffk27: "mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /cdrom"
[23:54] <szal> so it's a DVD
[23:54] <dr_willis> Songcat:  so look on /cdrom ;)
[23:54] <dr_willis> or its just confused
[23:54] <ffk27> what i dont get it anymore
[23:55] <dr_willis> and its the usb flash that he booted from
[23:55] <Songcat> dr_willis: /cdrom is just the USB Live CD!
[23:55] <TJ-> DanStamp: not too useful! But from that you should now build on by adding options for the driver itself to the "Driver" section of xorg.conf, those relating to resolutions would be most important right now. See if you can get a proper full-screen with no overlap/zoom effect. It may be the LCD is 800x600 and you need to limit it to that
[23:55] <dr_willis> Songcat:  so you have 2 actual hard drives and a USB flash plugged in right now?
[23:56] <dr_willis> Songcat:  and ubuntuis installed to one of the hard drives.. and you booted from USB?
[23:57] <Songcat> dr_willis: Just one internal hard drive; I have an external, but it's not plugged in, so there shouldn't be two. And right, I'm booting from a USB (micro SD pretending to be a USB but I don't think that makes a difference).
[23:57] <dr_willis> Songcat:  then you have no NTFS partions on that machine.. they are all linux partitions.
[23:58] <dr_willis> sda1 and sda3 both seem to be linux partitions.
[23:58] <DanStamp> KJ: Yeah I'm trying with nothing but the center option this time.
[23:58] <dr_willis> mount them and see whats on them
[23:59] <TJ-> DanStamp: Also, when you are testing the different xorg.conf configurations are you restarting the entire PC? Because you don't need to - at the terminal you can simply do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to stop and restart the X server and display manager
[23:59] <TJ-> DanStamp: Do you have the J2 550 service manual?