[03:18] <holstein> FloatingGoat: hey.. sorry man.. i'll have to catch it some other time i think
[03:18] <FloatingGoat> want to hear my reasoning
[03:19] <holstein> i just got finished with my 2nd show, and im eating.. i do have headphones though.. link it up
[03:19] <FloatingGoat> for why LMMS should be included in ubuntu studio?
[03:19] <FloatingGoat> listen to this song
[03:19] <FloatingGoat> http://ubuntuone.com/6JfH5M29JyFNeGvXuXb7NJ
[03:19] <holstein> FloatingGoat: i think you should link it in #opensourcemusicians
[03:19] <FloatingGoat> really?
[03:20] <FloatingGoat> whys that
[03:20] <holstein> FloatingGoat: we used to do that all the time over there is all. you dont have to
[03:20] <holstein> i like it
[03:20] <holstein> the vocal sounds nice
[03:21] <holstein> the "synthy" stuff is mostly cool
[03:21] <holstein> the snare drums is killing me
[03:21] <FloatingGoat> thank you :) its my voice
[03:21] <FloatingGoat> picked up through an MXL 990!
[03:21] <holstein> but that my opinion is all. i think it should be down in the mix though...
[03:21] <FloatingGoat> holstein: in what way?
[03:21] <holstein> FloatingGoat: in the way where when i hear it i wish i could die
[03:21] <FloatingGoat> "killing me"
[03:21] <holstein> each time it cracks
[03:22] <FloatingGoat> you dont like it?
[03:22] <holstein> but... again.. most of the synthy stuff is nce
[03:22] <holstein> FloatingGoat: correct.. i do not like the drum sounds
[03:22] <FloatingGoat> lol idk what to use in place haha
[03:22] <holstein> but everything else is very nice
[03:22] <holstein> i think even if you like those drums, you could pull them down
[03:23] <FloatingGoat> in volume?
[03:23] <FloatingGoat> should I turn down the drums before i post it
[03:23] <holstein> pull them down in the mix.. yeah.. lower the volume of the snare... nah, get other opinions
[03:25] <FloatingGoat> oh BTW the only programs I used for that where sound recorder
[03:25] <FloatingGoat> and lmms
[03:25] <holstein> sure.. i just think lmms is a toy is all
[03:26] <FloatingGoat> why I keep insisting that raw audio recording and editing features be
[03:26] <holstein> the look and feel.. and it  was crashy
[03:26] <FloatingGoat> included in LMMS
[03:26] <holstein> if its stable, we can entertain adding it back
[03:26] <FloatingGoat> for me it doesnt crash that often
[03:26] <FloatingGoat> only when im trying to export
[03:26] <holstein> FloatingGoat: it would have to not crash at all.. ideally
[03:27] <FloatingGoat> oh
[03:27] <FloatingGoat> wait
[03:27] <holstein> too bad.. it lookes like a nice app for a certain work flow
[03:27] <FloatingGoat> you guys have openshot defaulted
[03:27] <holstein> FloatingGoat: openshot was defaulted, correct
[03:27] <FloatingGoat> not only that but i only have like a maybe 12 hours experience in LMMS
[03:28] <FloatingGoat> and im able to make that
[03:28] <FloatingGoat> you want to make it easy for beginners?
[03:28] <holstein> it?
[03:28] <FloatingGoat> seems like a great way
[03:28] <holstein> i want to make it professional for me
[03:28] <holstein> it can be as easy as users need
[03:29] <holstein> but, like i said, if its stable, i wont vote against it
[03:29] <FloatingGoat> idk no other app I see has the features that LMMS has
[03:29] <holstein> FloatingGoat: sure, but it was crashing with jack
[03:29] <FloatingGoat> yeah it is pretty shotty with jack
[03:29] <FloatingGoat> issues with CPU
[03:29] <holstein> FloatingGoat: i checked it out.. i understand the work flow and the need
[03:30] <holstein> FloatingGoat: i personally dont need it, but that doesnt mean it cant be included.. it shouldnt be included cause its not stable
[03:30] <holstein> FloatingGoat: ive always wanted to ty and contact a maintainer..
[03:31] <FloatingGoat> I think ive seen one I think
[03:31] <FloatingGoat> I think if no ones on the upkeep someone eneed to fork that
[03:31] <holstein> yup.. i think we need a tool to address that work flow
[03:34] <FloatingGoat> what do you mean?
[03:35] <holstein> FloatingGoat: i was agreeing with you.. when you say it should be forked if its ead
[03:35] <holstein> dead*
[03:35] <holstein> i personally dont need that tool, but i think ubuntustudio needs it
[03:48] <FloatingGoat> yeah i agree
[05:14] <FloatingGoat> i have really annoying problems with my home folder in ubuntu studio
[05:59] <FloatingGoat> hi there
[15:19] <holstein> FloatingGoat: with your home folder?
[15:19] <holstein> are you encrypted
[15:19] <holstein> i typically have a seperate studio machine where performance is the goal
[17:13] <contrapunctus> Sup folks :D
[17:14] <holstein> hello
[17:14] <contrapunctus> Wished to ask something regarding my M-Audio Fast Track Pro - I finally got it to run, but only in 16/44.1. Anyone know how to make it run at 24/48?
[17:15] <holstein> contrapunctus: some are locked to 16bit... i thought that was one of them
[17:15] <holstein> contrapunctus: personally, 16bit is fine... i wouldnt lose sleep over it
[17:16] <contrapunctus> Actually, I got it to run in 24 bits on AVLinux 5.0.3, but that distro has a bunch of other problems which caused me to shift.
[17:16] <holstein> contrapunctus: avlinux could load some firmware we cant ship
[17:17] <holstein> contrapunctus: i would note the kernel in avlinux and the alsa version
[17:17] <contrapunctus> O.o
[17:17] <contrapunctus> Sure.
[17:17] <holstein> contrapunctus: also, i would do a bit more testing and make sure that its running at 24bit, and not "reporting" its running at 24bit
[17:17] <holstein> contrapunctus: the alsa drivers on some usb devices are what i understand to be the issue
[17:18] <holstein> you can as in #opensourcemusicians about that unit
[17:18] <holstein> i know ailo knows a lot about USB hardware..
[17:18] <contrapunctus> It says 16 bit little endian under capture in the logs in UbStu, and 24 bit in AVL.
[17:18] <holstein> contrapunctus: im not denying... just encouraging
[17:19] <holstein> contrapunctus: i have used both... but avlinux is based on an older kernel AFAIK... depends on what version i suppose
[17:19] <contrapunctus> AFAIR 5.0.3 is an older kernel but patched for FTP.
[17:20] <contrapunctus> Incidentally, how do I check ALSA version? Synaptic?
[17:20] <holstein> contrapunctus: where ever you like.. that should do
[17:20] <contrapunctus> Alright. Brb in a bit with the versions.
[17:21] <holstein> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-MAudio says Reduced functionality in class-compliant mode, patch available for more features
[17:38] <contrapunctus> Back. Holstein, you there? o.o
[18:08] <contrapunctus> Holstein?
[18:15] <contrapunctus> Holstein...?
[18:22] <contrapunctus> Holstein, ye there?
[18:26] <FloatingGoat> len-dt: did you hear the song I made yesterday?