| treaver | Hello | 00:39 |
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| treaver | I need help with Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2. It boots to a black screen and I have to press f1 to show the boot logo. Then after it's booted when I put it in Standby it works perfectly. But when I open computer from standby or press power button it comes back to a blackscreen and I can't do anything. | 00:40 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: what video chip do you use? | 00:40 |
| treaver | Amd? | 00:40 |
| treaver | I guess | 00:40 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: we need to know for sure, running@: lspci | grep -i vga will tell you | 00:40 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: the fact you aren't aware should be screaming to you to not use prerelease | 00:41 |
| treaver | 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] | 00:41 |
| treaver | It works perfectly and I have everything backed up except the installs which don't take too long. | 00:41 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: is the system a laptop? | 00:41 |
| treaver | Yes it is | 00:42 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: get a wired connection and get fully updated, can help | 00:42 |
| treaver | I'm updating it now via wireless (It's fast) | 00:42 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: you can also use CLI to install the proprietary video driver and it wil be used when you next boot | 00:42 |
| treaver | Can you give me a command to do that | 00:43 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: cool, get the video driver installed too once that's done, should help | 00:43 |
| ActionParsnip | !ati | 00:43 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 00:43 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: again, asking such basic question should be ques to not use prerelease if you can't do basic stuff like that | 00:43 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: pre-releases are not for the average user | 00:44 |
| treaver | I'm learning, I'm also learning to program specifically for linux | 00:44 |
| treaver | Quick question, I can't find the additional drivers in this release. | 00:45 |
| treaver | I've installed the video driver before in other releases but never this one | 00:46 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: use CLI | 00:46 |
| treaver | Could you tell me how? I've typed the command CLI and searched for it | 00:47 |
| treaver | Is it using te command? | 00:47 |
| treaver | Sweet I found the driver on amd website going to unzip now I guess? | 00:49 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: the driver is in the repos | 00:51 |
| treaver | What's the command to install it | 00:51 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI | 00:52 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: the link to that was in the pagfe ubottu gave | 00:52 |
| treaver | Yeah I type the first 3 commands and it says the files are not found. | 00:54 |
| treaver | ::: Save backup copy of xorg.conf in case this doesn't work. Isn't there | 00:54 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: sudo apt-get update | 00:55 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle | 00:55 |
| treaver | Ok | 00:55 |
| treaver | So this should make the suspend and stuff work perfectly?! !:) | 00:55 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: suspend is a weird creature | 00:59 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: we'll see | 00:59 |
| treaver | :) | 00:59 |
| treaver | I love ubuntu though, I installed it on 19 friends computers so far. They love it too, they said it sped their computer by atleast 10x from the windows switch | 01:00 |
| treaver | My grandfather and grandmother even use it ;P | 01:00 |
| ActionParsnip | depends on needs, most folks just want a web browser to look at porn with etc, and ubuntu does that and for free | 01:01 |
| treaver | Lol :P | 01:01 |
| ActionParsnip | mind you, most linux distros do that too | 01:02 |
| treaver | I've made programs for Windows and the switch is kinda hard. But I'm working on something I call GVibre. It's Google Voice with Unity Integrated. Allows for dialing using the dash, checking messages, and so much more. I'm couple months from finishing but I don't know how to add it to Ubuntu Repos | 01:03 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: sounds exciting :) | 01:03 |
| treaver | do you use google voce? | 01:04 |
| treaver | voice or talk | 01:04 |
| ActionParsnip | i use irc, thats pretty much it | 01:04 |
| treaver | Oh :p | 01:04 |
| ActionParsnip | i have skype but it probably gets ran once a year if that and only to text chat | 01:04 |
| treaver | Google Voice lets you like link your phone to it and text and call from any computer by login in to voice.google.com | 01:05 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: i always have my phone on me... | 01:05 |
| treaver | I love skype I just wish they would make it more user friendly like in window for linux | 01:05 |
| treaver | :P So do I, I just never use it when I have my computer in lap or when I'm at a computer | 01:05 |
| ActionParsnip | I tend to use both | 01:10 |
| treaver | You live in Cali! | 01:11 |
| treaver | I've been there it's amazzzzzzzing :P | 01:12 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: UK | 01:12 |
| treaver | Ahhh | 01:14 |
| treaver | Alright Andy | 01:14 |
| ActionParsnip | hi | 01:15 |
| treaver | So after I've done the commands you told me do I do anything else? | 01:20 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: reboot | 01:22 |
| treaver | Then it's done? | 01:22 |
| treaver | How do I check if it installed correctly | 01:26 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: sudo lshw -C display will say driver=fglrx or something similar | 01:29 |
| treaver_ | It worked thank you | 01:30 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver: cool | 01:30 |
| ActionParsnip | treaver_: simple stuff | 01:32 |
| bobweaver | Hello there I am having some real strang troubles with my network | 02:39 |
| bobweaver | I have like 2 virtual networks running all a sudden and had to kill my mod in order to even get networking back | 02:40 |
| bobweaver | if I do a ifconfig I see a bunch of virtual networks ,, well 2 but My question is | 02:41 |
| bobweaver | Is this part of the remote log in stuff ? what is up with the virtual networking stuff showing up ? | 02:41 |
| bobweaver | remote log in stuff = lightdm remote stuff | 02:42 |
| trism | bobweaver: what interfaces are you seeing in ifconfig? | 02:47 |
| ActionParsnip | bobweaver: what are you using to virtualize the OSes? | 02:49 |
| bobweaver | sorry gues I missed that | 02:52 |
| bobweaver | I have | 02:52 |
| bobweaver | vmnet8 vmnet1 | 02:52 |
| bobweaver | them right therer are the odd ones | 02:52 |
| bobweaver | I have killed everthing virtual (I think ) vmwware client and so on | 02:53 |
| bobweaver | Wow | 02:59 |
| bobweaver | whereby serial console output can be remotely viewed over the LAN. Systems implementing IPMI 2.0 typically also include KVM over IP, remote virtual media and out-of-band embedded web server interface functionality | 02:59 |
| bobweaver | I think That my box is done | 03:00 |
| * bobweaver eats a guyute pie | 04:00 | |
| buglyjoe | hi, could someone running 12.10 beta2 please tell me which groups the user should be a member of, by default. I used usermod -G without -a and got removed from all groups | 06:29 |
| buglyjoe | I mounted the os as a disk and put my self directly into the sudoers file temporarily. so I have root access. I just need to know the groups I should add myself to | 06:29 |
| krofna | After upgrade to beta2, when I try to login, I get black screen and it goes back to login screen... help? | 08:40 |
| krofna | I did pkill lightdm && startx but now windows don't have edges (for example, i cant resize nor move anything) | 08:41 |
| popey | krofna, can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy unity compiz" please | 08:44 |
| krofna | http://pastebin.com/zczH85RS | 08:45 |
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| popey | krofna, can you pastebin your ~/.xsession-errors ? | 08:47 |
| krofna | http://pastebin.com/gEeXKpYd | 08:47 |
| popey | krofna, if you run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" does it pull in lots of packages that were missing? | 08:50 |
| krofna | The following NEW packages will be installed | 08:51 |
| krofna | lightdm ubuntu-desktop xorg | 08:51 |
| krofna | I'll restart X. brb | 08:51 |
| krofna | Now it just logs me in as root... | 08:53 |
| popey | i would restart lightdm | 08:53 |
| krofna | Same issue. | 08:54 |
| popey | krofna, ATI graphics card? | 08:57 |
| krofna | Yes | 08:57 |
| popey | perhaps bug 725580 | 08:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 725580 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "black screen on boot on radeon 9200" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725580 | 08:58 |
| krofna | Seems pretty old. I didn't have this issue before. And details aren't same. When I login I get the same output on black screen like when I shut down computer, and it sends me back to login screen | 09:00 |
| krofna | I'll try the suggested fix tho.. | 09:01 |
| krofna | nomodeset breaks everything. ... | 09:08 |
| krofna | Stuck on purple screen with that param. | 09:09 |
| BluesKaj | Hiya folks | 11:54 |
| penguin42 | hey | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | hey penguin42 , what's up ? | 11:56 |
| penguin42 | not much; just got up not that long ago | 12:00 |
| allu3 | http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ someone should change the "Desktop CD" to Desktop DVD or some other term wher the iso actually fits in, saying Desktop CD is misleading | 12:03 |
| allu3 | i can't install 756mb on standard CD with around 700mb space | 12:03 |
| dan_a | Hi all, I'm testing 12.10 and my (unsupported) RA3090 wifi card doesn't work on kernel 3.5. It's fine on 3.2. Is it worth reporting this? | 12:04 |
| TheOneRing | any idea? http://paste.kde.org/562820/ xserver doesnt start , atom cpu with gma600 | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | TheOneRing, have you considered the recovery kernel , repair broken packages dialog ? | 12:21 |
| TheOneRing | I an login, so I already run apt-get and it seems that nothing is broken, or what do you mean? | 12:29 |
| TheOneRing | I an = I can | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | TheOneRing, are you asking me ..if so pls address me by my nick ...I'm in several chats so i need my notifier | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | TheOneRing, in grub when booting , choose the recovery kernel | 12:34 |
| TheOneRing | ok, the 3.5 kernel will give me a misplaced screen, the 3.2-32 a black screen but the 3.23 did boot corectly | 12:35 |
| TheOneRing | then dpkg? | 12:35 |
| TheOneRing | BluesKaj: dpkg Repair broken packages | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 12:36 |
| TheOneRing | didnt work | 12:51 |
| IdleOne | any issues I should be aware of with this nvidia-current 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu1 update? | 12:57 |
| IdleOne | I guess I'll find out :) | 12:59 |
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| foormea | hi. i'm confused about how telepathy works. i selected to let it run in the background the first time i closed it | 13:21 |
| foormea | now i really can't find an option to change that | 13:22 |
| foormea | and killing telepathy doesn't work, it gets restarted after just a few seconds | 13:22 |
| jdfoote | I just upgraded to 12.10, and now my login isn't working. When I enter the incorrect pw, it tells me it's wrong, but when I enter the correct pw, the screen goes black, then goes back to the login screen. | 13:46 |
| jdfoote | Any help would be great! | 13:46 |
| IdleOne | How is it not working? | 13:47 |
| IdleOne | err sorry | 13:47 |
| jtaylor | is unity horrendously slow seince a few days for others too? nvidia open source drivers | 13:47 |
| jtaylor | after reboot its ok but at some point it starts crawling | 13:48 |
| Daekdroom | If I had to guess, I'd say that X is crashing as soon as you start your session. | 13:48 |
| jdfoote | I don't know if this is the right place to look, but auth.log is telling me "Rejected send message, 2 matched rules;......" | 13:48 |
| TankC | Hey everyone, is there a keyboard shortcut to view the virtual desktop switcher? | 13:49 |
| jdfoote | Ok - any ideas about where to look for the problem, or how to fix? | 13:49 |
| silverarrow | you might bypass the graphics driver? | 13:52 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Normally if it's going back to the login either the X server or some part of the desktop crashed; the trick is to find which | 13:52 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: I'd check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old just after the crash and see if at the bottom there is a backtrace | 13:52 |
| jdfoote | ok - looking now | 13:53 |
| jdfoote | I don't see anything that looks like an error | 13:54 |
| jdfoote | I assume it would be pretty obvious? | 13:54 |
| jdfoote | Definitely no long backtraces | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | yeh it should be, so ok, if it's not X itself crashing it could be something in the desktop | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: So I'd check .xsession-errors just after it's failed | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Is it actually writing to .xsession-errors (is the timestamp up to date) ? | 13:56 |
| jdfoote | penguin42: Thanks for your help. | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: No prob | 13:56 |
| jdfoote | I hadn't looked at .xsession-errors yet. | 13:57 |
| jdfoote | Looks like nothing new was written | 13:57 |
| jdfoote | The last message was from when I was updating - says Owner :1.39 of volume monitor org.gtk.Private.AfcVolumeMonitor disconnected from the bus; removing drives/volumes/mounts | 13:58 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: So if you delete the .xsession-errors and then try logging in does it come back? | 13:59 |
| jdfoote | I'll try now | 13:59 |
| jdfoote | No, it does not | 14:00 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: OK, so that means it didn't get very far at all | 14:00 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: I'd check in /var/log/lightdm | 14:00 |
| jdfoote | ok | 14:00 |
| jdfoote | Which file? | 14:01 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: hmm - lightdm.log probably | 14:01 |
| jdfoote | Ok - looks like something here. | 14:02 |
| silverarrow | is LSO cookies a trouble in Ubuntu? | 14:03 |
| silverarrow | are* | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | Started session 2530 with service 'lightdm', username 'username' | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | Session got 1 message from PAM | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | Prompt greeter | 14:03 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Woah stop | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | Greeter start auth | 14:03 |
| silverarrow | I have scripts slowing down firefox, message popping up | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | Sorry | 14:03 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Use pastebin to show us | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | Ok - is there a way to paste from a terminal session? | 14:03 |
| jdfoote | I'm just typing this on my other computer | 14:03 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Yes, there is a program called pastebinit | 14:04 |
| silverarrow | yeah, I always forget how to use it | 14:04 |
| jdfoote | Ok - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1263889/ | 14:06 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: I think it's trying to login with unity-2d that doesn't exist any more, can you try choosing a different session | 14:08 |
| jdfoote | penguin42: That makes sense, that's what I was using. I didn't see a place on the login screen to change that. Any idea where to change it? | 14:09 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: erm hang on, I don't have a convenient gdm setup | 14:10 |
| jdfoote | penguin42: Ok - thanks so much again | 14:11 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Right, to the right of your name there should be a symbol, click on it then you should see a list | 14:11 |
| jdfoote | penguin42: I'm not seeing that. There's nothing but the name and the pw box | 14:12 |
| penguin42 | jdfoote: Hmm, isn't there a unity/ubuntu symbol next to your name? | 14:12 |
| jdfoote | No | 14:13 |
| penguin42 | oh - erm then I'm not quite sure what to do! | 14:13 |
| XVampireX | Here's a good question for all of you, what is the name of the browser, that keeps thinking it's from year 2000, thinks it's a mobile phone, and runs on KDE? :) | 14:16 |
| silverarrow | is anyone booted in quantal now? | 14:16 |
| XVampireX | uhm let me check... uhm, yes | 14:17 |
| XVampireX | but kubuntu | 14:17 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, whats the real question | 14:17 |
| XVampireX | (I joined this channel cause #kubuntu+1 doesn't exist) | 14:17 |
| XVampireX | bazhang is crazy | 14:17 |
| bazhang | XVampireX, lets stay on topic | 14:17 |
| XVampireX | (Told you) | 14:18 |
| XVampireX | OMG IT'S FREAKING ANNOYING | 14:18 |
| XVampireX | THAT'S THE SECOND TIME YOU KEEP TELLING ME THIS AFTER I ASKED A QUESTION | 14:18 |
| silverarrow | bazhang: can you make this test page play http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=34000689 | 14:18 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, just a moment | 14:18 |
| XVampireX | That's great | 14:18 |
| bazhang | XVampireX, stop with the caps. stay on topic. | 14:19 |
| XVampireX | Sure | 14:19 |
| XVampireX | <XVampireX> Here's a good question for all of you, what is the name of the browser, that keeps thinking it's from year 2000, thinks it's a mobile phone, and runs on KDE? :) | 14:19 |
| penguin42 | ok, that's half of it, now stay on topic | 14:19 |
| XVampireX | What's half of it? | 14:19 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, it loads; did you mean using the listen in? see if that works? | 14:19 |
| silverarrow | yes, sorry, you have to choose listen in to get to the player | 14:20 |
| bazhang | just a moment silverarrow | 14:20 |
| silverarrow | there should be a small player window there | 14:20 |
| XVampireX | Well for some reason there's a browser called rekonq that's version 1.1 and I keep having it loading pages as if I was on a mobile phone, also, when I look in browser identification, it gives me browsers from year 2000 (Well, maybe a bit later, but whatever you know what I mean) | 14:20 |
| penguin42 | XVampireX: OK, that's better | 14:21 |
| silverarrow | i cannot make it play | 14:21 |
| penguin42 | XVampireX: Tbh I don't have much luck with rekonq either | 14:21 |
| penguin42 | XVampireX: Although to be fair it's less bad than konqueror | 14:21 |
| XVampireX | bazhang: Yesterday or the day before I also asked about kwin and wine and torchlight 2 game and you also told me to be on topic, well lets see I'm on 12.10 right now, I'm on an ubuntu variation, I tried joining #kubuntu+1 and that got me here, so what do you think I should do? | 14:22 |
| XVampireX | bazhang, that's what got me so angry | 14:22 |
| penguin42 | XVampireX: Stop being angry, stop using capitals, and just ask the question straight rather than gaming about and people will help | 14:22 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, the web app did not play it, I had to dl the mp3 which played fine | 14:23 |
| silverarrow | yeah, odd, though | 14:23 |
| silverarrow | it should work | 14:23 |
| bazhang | dl was pretty fast, played in audactious | 14:23 |
| bazhang | -t | 14:23 |
| silverarrow | are you in totem or mplayer or..? | 14:23 |
| XVampireX | penguin42: I've got a bad tab habit, uhm, sometimes want to see some links that people send me without having to open up chromium or firefox :P | 14:24 |
| bazhang | the mplayer plugin would not play it | 14:24 |
| silverarrow | baxhang, hmm, missing plugin, or plugin not working | 14:24 |
| penguin42 | XVampireX: Yeh so a while ago I did persuade KDE to use firefox rather than rekonq, and I need to persuade it to again, it's annoying with konsole opening rekonq when I click on a link | 14:24 |
| silverarrow | bazhang: sorry | 14:24 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, I have the plugins afaik, so just a site issue I suspect | 14:24 |
| silverarrow | could be | 14:25 |
| bazhang | th e download plays fine though, if that's your cup of tea :) | 14:25 |
| silverarrow | that site usually streams fine in windows, ubuntu usually to with some tweaking | 14:25 |
| bazhang | could be some issue yet to be resolved. perhaps once we have release and a few bug fixes | 14:26 |
| silverarrow | bazhang: the actual material is a bit alternative, but not easy to find an available free stream right now | 14:26 |
| bazhang | sure | 14:27 |
| bazhang | just letting you know the technical issue I faced. | 14:27 |
| silverarrow | yes, thanks | 14:27 |
| silverarrow | download works here too, I had to install one | 14:28 |
| silverarrow | bazhang, when it is live I don`t think there are download option | 14:28 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, ok. perhaps try again when it is live | 14:29 |
| silverarrow | no, it is usually exactly the same as the stream, live or replay | 14:30 |
| silverarrow | it`s all right though, bazhang you confirmed the issue | 14:30 |
| bazhang | ok | 14:30 |
| silverarrow | I am on ppc and always wonder if it is ppc weirdness or not lol | 14:30 |
| silverarrow | or lubuntu or ubuntu | 14:30 |
| bazhang | nah | 14:31 |
| bazhang | it's their site | 14:31 |
| bazhang | !find downverter | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Package/file downverter does not exist in quantal | 14:31 |
| silverarrow | like the nasty BankID I had yesterday | 14:31 |
| silverarrow | I even filed a bug report | 14:31 |
| gio60 | hello | 14:32 |
| silverarrow | hi | 14:32 |
| bazhang | whats downverter | 14:32 |
| gio60 | I would like to install downverter in ubuntu 12.10. How to install? | 14:32 |
| bazhang | gio60, ^ | 14:32 |
| silverarrow | bazhang: converting options, mp3 and other formats? | 14:32 |
| bazhang | gio60, whats downverter | 14:33 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, I meant gio60 's question | 14:33 |
| gio60 | bazhang, program where you can download and convert videos from YouTube | 14:34 |
| silverarrow | bazhang: odd your question is posted before gio60`s question on my screen | 14:34 |
| bazhang | silverarrow, yeah, I saw him, mispost in #ubuntu first | 14:34 |
| silverarrow | lol | 14:34 |
| bazhang | gio60, convert to what | 14:34 |
| bazhang | flv to mp4? | 14:35 |
| silverarrow | ok, psychic mode | 14:35 |
| bazhang | gio60, firefox has a plugin for that | 14:36 |
| gio60 | firefox ? | 14:36 |
| bazhang | video download helper | 14:36 |
| silverarrow | yeah, downloadhelper I converts I think | 14:36 |
| bazhang | yes. it downloads youtube vids, then converts on the fly | 14:36 |
| bazhang | it does | 14:36 |
| silverarrow | I just installed it three minutes ago | 14:37 |
| bazhang | gio60, need the link? | 14:37 |
| gio60 | bazhang, I use chrome, firefox faster | 14:37 |
| bazhang | !info downverter | gio60 | 14:38 |
| ubottu | gio60: Package downverter does not exist in quantal | 14:38 |
| silverarrow | chrome probably have an equivalent though | 14:38 |
| bazhang | never used them, it's a google app | 14:38 |
| silverarrow | I have to go, it`s getting late and I have a flat tire on the backwheel | 14:39 |
| silverarrow | rarewheel ? | 14:39 |
| silverarrow | try #lubuntu, chrome is default there I think | 14:40 |
| silverarrow | I am on ppc right now, and firefox is the thing there | 14:40 |
| gio60 | bazhang, I enter firefox add-ons? | 14:40 |
| silverarrow | yes, tools-addon and search | 14:41 |
| gio60 | ok | 14:41 |
| silverarrow | I`m off, see you later perhaps | 14:41 |
| silverarrow | :-) | 14:42 |
| bazhang | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ gio60 | 14:44 |
| dan_a | I'm struggling with a wireless problem. RT3090 using a driver from a PPA works fine with Quantal and the kernel from Precise | 14:44 |
| penguin42 | dan_a: Did it work OK in precise? | 14:45 |
| dan_a | Using the kernel from Quantal, wpa_supplicant can't talk to the driver | 14:45 |
| dan_a | penguin42: yes | 14:45 |
| penguin42 | dan_a: Was that with the ppa on precise or just precise out of the box? | 14:46 |
| dan_a | penguin42: ppa, which I've been using since 10.10 | 14:47 |
| dan_a | Can I do a bisect across kernels from different versions of Ubuntu? | 14:48 |
| dan_a | or is the best thing to test mainline 3.2 and 3.5 and bisect them? | 14:48 |
| penguin42 | dan_a: is it still necessary to use the ppa version? | 14:50 |
| dan_a | penguin42: I think so | 14:54 |
| dan_a | Oh maybe not, rt2800 should support it. I'll give that a go... | 14:56 |
| dan_a | penguin42: Looks good so far - thank you! | 15:04 |
| penguin42 | dan_a: good; the thing is with a ppa it would take some digging to know what it was meant to work with | 15:06 |
| RiXtEr | ok, so before I did a 'update-manager -d' i had my desktop on unity 2d, and now I can't login as that user... what file do I need to change under the username having problems? | 15:07 |
| penguin42 | sigh, that sounds like the same problem as jdfoote had earlier | 15:12 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: On the login manager, next to your name do you see an ubuntu/unity icon or other icon? | 15:12 |
| RiXtEr | I couldn't find it, I am assuming it should be in the same place as 12.03 | 15:13 |
| RiXtEr | err 12.04 that is | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: Yeh same problem as the other guy | 15:14 |
| RiXtEr | any way to fix this? | 15:14 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: not sure | 15:14 |
| RiXtEr | or where are the channel logs? I dont mind finding it if its there. | 15:14 |
| RiXtEr | I could download another WM and see if it shows then | 15:15 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/06/%23ubuntu+1.txt although th eother guy earlier today we didn't find a solution | 15:15 |
| RiXtEr | what is the lightest one available? | 15:15 |
| penguin42 | desktop? | 15:16 |
| RiXtEr | window manager/desktop | 15:16 |
| RiXtEr | ;) | 15:16 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: the xfwm one is pretty light, you could try installing xubuntu-desktop and see if it lets you select it | 15:16 |
| RiXtEr | brb | 15:17 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: Ubuntu-3d should work | 15:17 |
| RiXtEr | sorry did you say something right before I left? | 15:18 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: I wonder, have you got ubuntu-3d installed? | 15:18 |
| RiXtEr | fixed it | 15:18 |
| RiXtEr | well let me confirm | 15:18 |
| penguin42 | how? | 15:18 |
| RiXtEr | nevermind... progress though. | 15:19 |
| penguin42 | how - I'm interested for the next victim | 15:19 |
| RiXtEr | cp /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu.desktop /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop | 15:19 |
| RiXtEr | but | 15:19 |
| penguin42 | yeuch :-) | 15:20 |
| RiXtEr | I now a completely blank desktop | 15:20 |
| RiXtEr | so... | 15:20 |
| RiXtEr | not fixed but I am getting somewhere | 15:20 |
| RiXtEr | penguin42, I will do more investigation on this but I need to go for nwo | 15:25 |
| RiXtEr | *now | 15:25 |
| toumbo | Software center on Quantal consumes too much ram. :/ | 15:26 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: Please report a bug and tell us the number | 15:26 |
| RiXtEr | and ctrl-alt-bkspace doesn't work now!? | 15:26 |
| RiXtEr | it didn't with 12.04 either though | 15:26 |
| RiXtEr | penguin42, ok, so i did a cp /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu.desktop /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop | 16:04 |
| penguin42 | and did that work? | 16:05 |
| RiXtEr | then I edited the lines in /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop to read "Name=Ubuntu2d" and "Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu2d" | 16:05 |
| RiXtEr | then I tried to switch to the 2d session | 16:05 |
| RiXtEr | and it failed, but forced a logout | 16:06 |
| RiXtEr | so I switched to regular ubuntu and it worked. | 16:06 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: how did you switch to regular ubuntu? | 16:06 |
| RiXtEr | I get the button now | 16:06 |
| penguin42 | so you only get the button when you had two sessions? | 16:06 |
| RiXtEr | yes | 16:07 |
| penguin42 | ok, can you bug report that? | 16:07 |
| RiXtEr | presumably another WM/desktop would work | 16:07 |
| RiXtEr | also, now I have removed the ubuntu2d.desktop and restarted lightdm | 16:07 |
| RiXtEr | and now I can login fine (without the button) | 16:08 |
| RiXtEr | so there is a default being set under the users home dir that needs fixed | 16:08 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: Well, also the lightdm greeter needs to do something more sensible if the current setting no longer exists | 16:08 |
| RiXtEr | I think lightdm isn't the culprit | 16:12 |
| RiXtEr | it hands off the session correctly | 16:12 |
| RiXtEr | but then unity2d doesnt exist, so it drops back to the login screen | 16:12 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: Well it should just switch you back to the top of the list rather than logging you out with no explanation - or at least tell you | 16:14 |
| penguin42 | RiXtEr: Or at least allow you to switch it | 16:27 |
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| penguin42 | anyone else seeing the mouse cursor rather jumpy in kvm guests in +1 ? | 17:19 |
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| rymate1234 | How do I get my ati video card audio working in ubuntu 12.10? | 18:43 |
| silverarrow | I`m not sure you do | 18:43 |
| silverarrow | how old is it? | 18:44 |
| silverarrow | with the radeon driver they have to fix something with kernel and xorg I think, | 18:44 |
| rymate1234 | got my laptop a couple years ago | 18:44 |
| rymate1234 | on;ly just got a hdmi cable D: | 18:44 |
| silverarrow | then there should be restricted drivers for your card I think | 18:45 |
| silverarrow | those are good for screen connections | 18:45 |
| silverarrow | and tv | 18:45 |
| rymate1234 | well | 18:45 |
| rymate1234 | thta miht be a problem | 18:46 |
| rymate1234 | as fglrx doesn't currently support 12.10 | 18:46 |
| rymate1234 | :( | 18:46 |
| silverarrow | well, it has to on the final release | 18:46 |
| silverarrow | or it will be a major bummer for ubuntu | 18:47 |
| rymate1234 | ye | 18:47 |
| silverarrow | graphics drivers should be well supported on newer cards | 18:48 |
| silverarrow | like yours | 18:48 |
| silverarrow | not so sure on 6-7 year old gards | 18:49 |
| silverarrow | cards* | 18:49 |
| silverarrow | but open radeon is good | 18:49 |
| silverarrow | problem right now is kernel, xorg | 18:50 |
| rymate1234 | Mine's newish | 18:50 |
| rymate1234 | but shit | 18:50 |
| rymate1234 | its a 4250 | 18:50 |
| silverarrow | back in a few minutes, have to catch the store before it closes | 18:51 |
| silverarrow | rymate1234: 4250 is problematic ? | 19:05 |
| silverarrow | mine is a 9550 | 19:08 |
| silverarrow | with added powerpc weirdness | 19:09 |
| rymate1234 | hey | 19:13 |
| rymate1234 | simple question | 19:13 |
| rymate1234 | How to get a battery indicator in xfce | 19:13 |
| silverarrow | not sure, but in lxde you have to retrieve it | 19:14 |
| rymate1234 | ok | 19:14 |
| * rymate1234 looks up | 19:14 | |
| silverarrow | ...by double clicking on the taskbar there is a "add/remove items" funtion | 19:15 |
| silverarrow | not sure about xfce, a while since I used it | 19:15 |
| silverarrow | that is the one with the mouse ? | 19:15 |
| rymate1234 | nvm | 19:15 |
| rymate1234 | it wasn't installed | 19:15 |
| silverarrow | yeah, I remember now, xfce has packages listed in package manager | 19:16 |
| rymate1234 | xfce + compiz = win | 19:20 |
| ArcaneWater | Hello, any idea why 12.10 is does not recognize thath i already have windows installed on? And it just gives me to format disc? It say there were no os detected. | 19:28 |
| ArcaneWater | Or is there maybe problem because LiLi is not recognizing 12.10 yet when creating usb | 19:31 |
| silverarrow | oh | 19:32 |
| silverarrow | I had 12.04 installed and it was detected, I haven`t tried on my windows computer yet | 19:33 |
| ArcaneWater | And you made it with LiLi? Actualy my first os is windows | 19:34 |
| silverarrow | LiLi? | 19:35 |
| silverarrow | no, CD | 19:35 |
| silverarrow | sorry, I was a bit slow there | 19:35 |
| silverarrow | I burned DVD acutally | 19:36 |
| ArcaneWater | Seems LiLi has problems | 19:36 |
| silverarrow | I have had such a mess with usb install in the past, so I stick to CD/DVD when I can | 19:38 |
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| ls612 | Is it still intended to have the alx ethernet driver in the kernel for 12.10 release? | 20:12 |
| ls612 | because it isn't there in Beta 2. | 20:12 |
| trism | ls612: it is still not in linux-next so I kind of doubt it will be | 20:19 |
| ls612 | *goes and throws something* great. How long is enough for QA testing. It doesn't help that my wireless card is also not supported, so I have no way of even manually installing the driver. | 20:21 |
| trism | ls612: if you stick with precise for a while though it is supposed to be available in linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-precise-generic | 20:25 |
| ls612 | But I can't use precise either because neither my wired ethernet nor my wireless card is supported, so I have no way of getting the headers necessary for manually installing the driver. | 20:26 |
| ls612 | So I'm stuck with only Win7 | 20:26 |
| silverarrow | are you sure wired is not working? | 20:27 |
| silverarrow | surprising | 20:27 |
| silverarrow | and weird | 20:27 |
| trism | ls612: you shouldn't need headers, if you find the version for your kernel on packages.ubuntu.com it should contain already built modules | 20:28 |
| ls612 | silverarrow: Yes, I have the Atheros AR8161 combined Bluetooth/Ethernet adapter, and it will only work with the alx driver. | 20:28 |
| trism | ls612: for instance, the latest kernel version is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-3.2.0-31-generic just download the deb and dpkg -i on the system | 20:29 |
| trism | ls612: otherwise just fiddle with the -31-generic section to match uname -r | 20:30 |
| ls612 | trism: so do I just d/l that package in windows and then open it in the Precise package manager? | 20:35 |
| trism | ls612: yep | 20:36 |
| trism | ls612: use sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb; though, software-center apparently complains | 20:36 |
| trism | ls612: again though, make sure you check uname -r first so you select the correct version | 20:37 |
| silverarrow | I tried that on b43 drivers, and you need cutter and what not to make them extract | 20:37 |
| trism | this package is just a set of kernel modules so it should work fine | 20:37 |
| silverarrow | horror if you can`t get wired right away | 20:37 |
| silverarrow | good | 20:37 |
| ls612 | Thanks guys! | 20:38 |
| bjsnider | it's really hard to believe there isn't a better solution to that problem, like a usb dongle, for example, or a pci-x1 card etc. | 20:44 |
| silverarrow | do you remember the name of the cleaner? clorex something almost | 20:47 |
| silverarrow | I mean, sort of like CCcleaner | 20:47 |
| silverarrow | I am googeling, but can`t hit upon the right name | 20:48 |
| silverarrow | BleachBit | 20:49 |
| silverarrow | !! | 20:49 |
| myk_robinson | afternoon. | 23:03 |
| myk_robinson | Playing with Ubuntu on my laptop, connected to my 32" tv via hdmi. How can I set a default screen for applications to launch on? Some things open on my laptop, others open up on the TV. I have the TV set as an extension, so I can play with my laptop while my daughter watches a movie. | 23:04 |
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| cowsquad | I have a question guys. I have 4gb memory but ubuntu only show 2.8 on the system Details, why is that? I have ubuntu 64 bit | 23:28 |
| keithclark | I don't seem to be able to log in into any other desktop environment except Xubuntu now. No matter what I select while logging in I get Xubuntu. Any fix to this or is it just my system that is toast? | 23:29 |
| keithclark | cowsquad, What is your physical RAM like? 4 x 1 GB? | 23:30 |
| cowsquad | keithclark, I dont get your question I have 4gb | 23:31 |
| keithclark | cowsquad, 4 sticks of 1 GB? 2 sticks of 4 GB ? | 23:31 |
| keithclark | Sorry, 2 sticks of 2 GB | 23:31 |
| cowsquad | 2 sticks of 2 = 4 gb | 23:31 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: Does the BIOS show all 4GB ? | 23:31 |
| cowsquad | i havent checked that. How do I do that | 23:32 |
| cowsquad | if i run top on terminal, it show only 2.8 | 23:32 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: That depends on the machine, they normally show the amount of RAM when you start up, or boot into setup | 23:33 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: Can you get the output of the command sudo dmidecode into something we can see - like a pastebin? | 23:33 |
| bandit-led | gnome-panel cant add system monitor any ideas? | 23:33 |
| cowsquad | penguin42, give me a second | 23:33 |
| ls612 | I was trying to install a compat wireless package on 12.04.1, and it gave me an error saying that I was missing the dependency "linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic". Is there a different version of that for 12.04.1? | 23:36 |
| cowsquad | penguin42, there you go http://pastebin.com/V52XShkW | 23:36 |
| bandit-led | ls612, you need to ask in ubuntu not ubuntu+1 this channel is for pre releases | 23:37 |
| trism | ls612: as I said earlier you need to check uname -r so you can find the right -number-generic version | 23:37 |
| cowsquad | ls612 this is ubuntu quetzal channel. Go to #ubuntu for 12.04 | 23:37 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: Thanks | 23:37 |
| ls612 | sorry. | 23:38 |
| trism | ls612: hop over to #ubuntu and send me uname -r and I'll find you the proper link | 23:38 |
| cowsquad | Dont worry ls612, They gonna give you more help | 23:38 |
| bandit-led | well we hope so any way | 23:39 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: According to that the Bios thinks the 2nd dimm is 1GB | 23:39 |
| silverarrow | hi | 23:39 |
| cowsquad | where in the log you read that? | 23:40 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: See the bit about dimm2 | 23:40 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: DIMM0 says 2048MB, DIMM2 says 1024MB | 23:40 |
| silverarrow | do you have problems with scrips running in Firefox? I suspect some kind of nasty cookies or worms, but how do you deal with them in Ubuntu. I don`t have Adobe Flash, but I have Gnash | 23:40 |
| cowsquad | penguin42, hold on. Ill get back to you in a bit | 23:41 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, some times you get a script that was just written wrong that can hang then a box pops up asking if you want to keep running that script | 23:42 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, you can also look at no-script which is always a good idea and or flashblock as well | 23:42 |
| bandit-led | they are ff addons that can speed up or stop some nasties | 23:43 |
| cowsquad | penguin42, I found it. My questions is. Is there a way to fix this? | 23:43 |
| silverarrow | bandit-led: yes, but it happens all the time now, and a loooong time before the choice to abort it pops up | 23:44 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/ | 23:44 |
| silverarrow | cool | 23:44 |
| silverarrow | thanks | 23:44 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, it should be a certain site that doing that it could also be gbash | 23:44 |
| bandit-led | gnash' | 23:44 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: OK, first go back and check what the bios thinks before Ubuntu boots, dmidecode just takes data straight from the BIOS, so if the BIOS really thinks there is a 2GB+1GB then it's unlikely you'll get any further | 23:45 |
| cowsquad | okay, Ill be back soon | 23:46 |
| silverarrow | is ebay a bad guy? | 23:46 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: I have the A100 | 23:46 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: On the A100 the hardware can't cope with more than 3GB | 23:46 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, i use ebay so i would say no | 23:47 |
| cowsquad | penguin I was reading about the motherboard system graphics taking some ram | 23:49 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: That's normally only 100-200MB | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: If that | 23:50 |
| silverarrow | here is the script http://s0.2mdn.net/879366/inpageGlobalTemplate_v2_71_03.js:71 | 23:50 |
| bandit-led | any one seeing screen artifacts at login? | 23:50 |
| silverarrow | I have never had script issues in ubuntu before | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: My machine shows 3016 MB in free with 3GB (i.e. 3072) physical | 23:50 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, you can have script issues with windows and linux its a site issue usually not the os | 23:51 |
| cowsquad | but my toshiba came with that memory. I havent change anything? | 23:51 |
| bandit-led | silverarrow, or a build issue of firefox | 23:51 |
| silverarrow | yeah, cookie thing right? | 23:51 |
| silverarrow | oh | 23:51 |
| penguin42 | cowsquad: OK fine, in that case just check what the bios thinks in terms of the RAM it has, and go forward | 23:52 |
| bandit-led | cookie just store information on your computer not really an issue unless you disbale them when they are needed | 23:52 |
| cowsquad | penguin42, Ill check the bios, and Ill get back to you | 23:52 |
| bandit-led | cookies' | 23:52 |
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| silverarrow | bandit-led: I have hadmajor script issues with LSO cookies in windows | 23:53 |
| silverarrow | they really run scrips | 23:53 |
| silverarrow | sorry about the typos | 23:53 |
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