[00:39] Hello [00:40] I need help with Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2. It boots to a black screen and I have to press f1 to show the boot logo. Then after it's booted when I put it in Standby it works perfectly. But when I open computer from standby or press power button it comes back to a blackscreen and I can't do anything. [00:40] treaver: what video chip do you use? [00:40] Amd? [00:40] I guess [00:40] treaver: we need to know for sure, running@: lspci | grep -i vga will tell you [00:41] treaver: the fact you aren't aware should be screaming to you to not use prerelease [00:41] 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] [00:41] It works perfectly and I have everything backed up except the installs which don't take too long. [00:41] treaver: is the system a laptop? [00:42] Yes it is [00:42] treaver: get a wired connection and get fully updated, can help [00:42] I'm updating it now via wireless (It's fast) [00:42] treaver: you can also use CLI to install the proprietary video driver and it wil be used when you next boot [00:43] Can you give me a command to do that [00:43] treaver: cool, get the video driver installed too once that's done, should help [00:43] !ati [00:43] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [00:43] treaver: again, asking such basic question should be ques to not use prerelease if you can't do basic stuff like that [00:44] treaver: pre-releases are not for the average user [00:44] I'm learning, I'm also learning to program specifically for linux [00:45] Quick question, I can't find the additional drivers in this release. [00:46] I've installed the video driver before in other releases but never this one [00:46] treaver: use CLI [00:47] Could you tell me how? I've typed the command CLI and searched for it [00:47] Is it using te command? [00:49] Sweet I found the driver on amd website going to unzip now I guess? [00:51] treaver: the driver is in the repos [00:51] What's the command to install it [00:52] treaver: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI [00:52] treaver: the link to that was in the pagfe ubottu gave [00:54] Yeah I type the first 3 commands and it says the files are not found. [00:54] ::: Save backup copy of xorg.conf in case this doesn't work. Isn't there [00:55] treaver: sudo apt-get update [00:55] treaver: sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle [00:55] Ok [00:55] So this should make the suspend and stuff work perfectly?! !:) [00:59] treaver: suspend is a weird creature [00:59] treaver: we'll see [00:59] :) [01:00] I love ubuntu though, I installed it on 19 friends computers so far. They love it too, they said it sped their computer by atleast 10x from the windows switch [01:00] My grandfather and grandmother even use it ;P [01:01] depends on needs, most folks just want a web browser to look at porn with etc, and ubuntu does that and for free [01:01] Lol :P [01:02] mind you, most linux distros do that too [01:03] I've made programs for Windows and the switch is kinda hard. But I'm working on something I call GVibre. It's Google Voice with Unity Integrated. Allows for dialing using the dash, checking messages, and so much more. I'm couple months from finishing but I don't know how to add it to Ubuntu Repos [01:03] treaver: sounds exciting :) [01:04] do you use google voce? [01:04] voice or talk [01:04] i use irc, thats pretty much it [01:04] Oh :p [01:04] i have skype but it probably gets ran once a year if that and only to text chat [01:05] Google Voice lets you like link your phone to it and text and call from any computer by login in to voice.google.com [01:05] treaver: i always have my phone on me... [01:05] I love skype I just wish they would make it more user friendly like in window for linux [01:05] :P So do I, I just never use it when I have my computer in lap or when I'm at a computer [01:10] I tend to use both [01:11] You live in Cali! [01:12] I've been there it's amazzzzzzzing :P [01:12] treaver: UK [01:14] Ahhh [01:14] Alright Andy [01:15] hi [01:20] So after I've done the commands you told me do I do anything else? [01:22] treaver: reboot [01:22] Then it's done? [01:26] How do I check if it installed correctly [01:29] treaver: sudo lshw -C display will say driver=fglrx or something similar [01:30] It worked thank you [01:30] treaver: cool [01:32] treaver_: simple stuff [02:39] Hello there I am having some real strang troubles with my network [02:40] I have like 2 virtual networks running all a sudden and had to kill my mod in order to even get networking back [02:41] if I do a ifconfig I see a bunch of virtual networks ,, well 2 but My question is [02:41] Is this part of the remote log in stuff ? what is up with the virtual networking stuff showing up ? [02:42] remote log in stuff = lightdm remote stuff [02:47] bobweaver: what interfaces are you seeing in ifconfig? [02:49] bobweaver: what are you using to virtualize the OSes? [02:52] sorry gues I missed that [02:52] I have [02:52] vmnet8 vmnet1 [02:52] them right therer are the odd ones [02:53] I have killed everthing virtual (I think ) vmwware client and so on [02:59] Wow [02:59] whereby serial console output can be remotely viewed over the LAN. Systems implementing IPMI 2.0 typically also include KVM over IP, remote virtual media and out-of-band embedded web server interface functionality [03:00] I think That my box is done [04:00] * bobweaver eats a guyute pie [06:29] hi, could someone running 12.10 beta2 please tell me which groups the user should be a member of, by default. I used usermod -G without -a and got removed from all groups [06:29] I mounted the os as a disk and put my self directly into the sudoers file temporarily. so I have root access. I just need to know the groups I should add myself to [08:40] After upgrade to beta2, when I try to login, I get black screen and it goes back to login screen... help? [08:41] I did pkill lightdm && startx but now windows don't have edges (for example, i cant resize nor move anything) [08:44] krofna, can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy unity compiz" please [08:45] http://pastebin.com/zczH85RS === glebihan__ is now known as glebihan [08:47] krofna, can you pastebin your ~/.xsession-errors ? [08:47] http://pastebin.com/gEeXKpYd [08:50] krofna, if you run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" does it pull in lots of packages that were missing? [08:51] The following NEW packages will be installed [08:51] lightdm ubuntu-desktop xorg [08:51] I'll restart X. brb [08:53] Now it just logs me in as root... [08:53] i would restart lightdm [08:54] Same issue. [08:57] krofna, ATI graphics card? [08:57] Yes [08:58] perhaps bug 725580 [08:58] Launchpad bug 725580 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "black screen on boot on radeon 9200" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725580 [09:00] Seems pretty old. I didn't have this issue before. And details aren't same. When I login I get the same output on black screen like when I shut down computer, and it sends me back to login screen [09:01] I'll try the suggested fix tho.. [09:08] nomodeset breaks everything. ... [09:09] Stuck on purple screen with that param. [11:54] Hiya folks [11:55] hey [11:56] hey penguin42 , what's up ? [12:00] not much; just got up not that long ago [12:03] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ someone should change the "Desktop CD" to Desktop DVD or some other term wher the iso actually fits in, saying Desktop CD is misleading [12:03] i can't install 756mb on standard CD with around 700mb space [12:04] Hi all, I'm testing 12.10 and my (unsupported) RA3090 wifi card doesn't work on kernel 3.5. It's fine on 3.2. Is it worth reporting this? [12:17] any idea? http://paste.kde.org/562820/ xserver doesnt start , atom cpu with gma600 [12:21] TheOneRing, have you considered the recovery kernel , repair broken packages dialog ? [12:29] I an login, so I already run apt-get and it seems that nothing is broken, or what do you mean? [12:31] I an = I can [12:33] TheOneRing, are you asking me ..if so pls address me by my nick ...I'm in several chats so i need my notifier [12:34] TheOneRing, in grub when booting , choose the recovery kernel [12:35] ok, the 3.5 kernel will give me a misplaced screen, the 3.2-32 a black screen but the 3.23 did boot corectly [12:35] then dpkg? [12:36] BluesKaj: dpkg Repair broken packages [12:36] yes [12:51] didnt work [12:57] any issues I should be aware of with this nvidia-current 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu1 update? [12:59] I guess I'll find out :) === samsul_ is now known as samsul [13:21] hi. i'm confused about how telepathy works. i selected to let it run in the background the first time i closed it [13:22] now i really can't find an option to change that [13:22] and killing telepathy doesn't work, it gets restarted after just a few seconds [13:46] I just upgraded to 12.10, and now my login isn't working. When I enter the incorrect pw, it tells me it's wrong, but when I enter the correct pw, the screen goes black, then goes back to the login screen. [13:46] Any help would be great! [13:47] How is it not working? [13:47] err sorry [13:47] is unity horrendously slow seince a few days for others too? nvidia open source drivers [13:48] after reboot its ok but at some point it starts crawling [13:48] If I had to guess, I'd say that X is crashing as soon as you start your session. [13:48] I don't know if this is the right place to look, but auth.log is telling me "Rejected send message, 2 matched rules;......" [13:49] Hey everyone, is there a keyboard shortcut to view the virtual desktop switcher? [13:49] Ok - any ideas about where to look for the problem, or how to fix? [13:52] you might bypass the graphics driver? [13:52] jdfoote: Normally if it's going back to the login either the X server or some part of the desktop crashed; the trick is to find which [13:52] jdfoote: I'd check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old just after the crash and see if at the bottom there is a backtrace [13:53] ok - looking now [13:54] I don't see anything that looks like an error [13:54] I assume it would be pretty obvious? [13:55] Definitely no long backtraces [13:55] yeh it should be, so ok, if it's not X itself crashing it could be something in the desktop [13:55] jdfoote: So I'd check .xsession-errors just after it's failed [13:56] jdfoote: Is it actually writing to .xsession-errors (is the timestamp up to date) ? [13:56] penguin42: Thanks for your help. [13:56] jdfoote: No prob [13:57] I hadn't looked at .xsession-errors yet. [13:57] Looks like nothing new was written [13:58] The last message was from when I was updating - says Owner :1.39 of volume monitor org.gtk.Private.AfcVolumeMonitor disconnected from the bus; removing drives/volumes/mounts [13:59] jdfoote: So if you delete the .xsession-errors and then try logging in does it come back? [13:59] I'll try now [14:00] No, it does not [14:00] jdfoote: OK, so that means it didn't get very far at all [14:00] jdfoote: I'd check in /var/log/lightdm [14:00] ok [14:01] Which file? [14:01] jdfoote: hmm - lightdm.log probably [14:02] Ok - looks like something here. [14:03] is LSO cookies a trouble in Ubuntu? [14:03] are* [14:03] Started session 2530 with service 'lightdm', username 'username' [14:03] Session got 1 message from PAM [14:03] Prompt greeter [14:03] jdfoote: Woah stop [14:03] Greeter start auth [14:03] I have scripts slowing down firefox, message popping up [14:03] Sorry [14:03] jdfoote: Use pastebin to show us [14:03] Ok - is there a way to paste from a terminal session? [14:03] I'm just typing this on my other computer [14:04] jdfoote: Yes, there is a program called pastebinit [14:04] yeah, I always forget how to use it [14:06] Ok - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1263889/ [14:08] jdfoote: I think it's trying to login with unity-2d that doesn't exist any more, can you try choosing a different session [14:09] penguin42: That makes sense, that's what I was using. I didn't see a place on the login screen to change that. Any idea where to change it? [14:10] jdfoote: erm hang on, I don't have a convenient gdm setup [14:11] penguin42: Ok - thanks so much again [14:11] jdfoote: Right, to the right of your name there should be a symbol, click on it then you should see a list [14:12] penguin42: I'm not seeing that. There's nothing but the name and the pw box [14:12] jdfoote: Hmm, isn't there a unity/ubuntu symbol next to your name? [14:13] No [14:13] oh - erm then I'm not quite sure what to do! [14:16] Here's a good question for all of you, what is the name of the browser, that keeps thinking it's from year 2000, thinks it's a mobile phone, and runs on KDE? :) [14:16] is anyone booted in quantal now? [14:17] uhm let me check... uhm, yes [14:17] but kubuntu [14:17] silverarrow, whats the real question [14:17] (I joined this channel cause #kubuntu+1 doesn't exist) [14:17] bazhang is crazy [14:17] XVampireX, lets stay on topic [14:18] (Told you) [14:18] OMG IT'S FREAKING ANNOYING [14:18] THAT'S THE SECOND TIME YOU KEEP TELLING ME THIS AFTER I ASKED A QUESTION [14:18] bazhang: can you make this test page play http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=34000689 [14:18] silverarrow, just a moment [14:18] That's great [14:19] XVampireX, stop with the caps. stay on topic. [14:19] Sure [14:19] Here's a good question for all of you, what is the name of the browser, that keeps thinking it's from year 2000, thinks it's a mobile phone, and runs on KDE? :) [14:19] ok, that's half of it, now stay on topic [14:19] What's half of it? [14:19] silverarrow, it loads; did you mean using the listen in? see if that works? [14:20] yes, sorry, you have to choose listen in to get to the player [14:20] just a moment silverarrow [14:20] there should be a small player window there [14:20] Well for some reason there's a browser called rekonq that's version 1.1 and I keep having it loading pages as if I was on a mobile phone, also, when I look in browser identification, it gives me browsers from year 2000 (Well, maybe a bit later, but whatever you know what I mean) [14:21] XVampireX: OK, that's better [14:21] i cannot make it play [14:21] XVampireX: Tbh I don't have much luck with rekonq either [14:21] XVampireX: Although to be fair it's less bad than konqueror [14:22] bazhang: Yesterday or the day before I also asked about kwin and wine and torchlight 2 game and you also told me to be on topic, well lets see I'm on 12.10 right now, I'm on an ubuntu variation, I tried joining #kubuntu+1 and that got me here, so what do you think I should do? [14:22] bazhang, that's what got me so angry [14:22] XVampireX: Stop being angry, stop using capitals, and just ask the question straight rather than gaming about and people will help [14:23] silverarrow, the web app did not play it, I had to dl the mp3 which played fine [14:23] yeah, odd, though [14:23] it should work [14:23] dl was pretty fast, played in audactious [14:23] -t [14:23] are you in totem or mplayer or..? [14:24] penguin42: I've got a bad tab habit, uhm, sometimes want to see some links that people send me without having to open up chromium or firefox :P [14:24] the mplayer plugin would not play it [14:24] baxhang, hmm, missing plugin, or plugin not working [14:24] XVampireX: Yeh so a while ago I did persuade KDE to use firefox rather than rekonq, and I need to persuade it to again, it's annoying with konsole opening rekonq when I click on a link [14:24] bazhang: sorry [14:24] silverarrow, I have the plugins afaik, so just a site issue I suspect [14:25] could be [14:25] th e download plays fine though, if that's your cup of tea :) [14:25] that site usually streams fine in windows, ubuntu usually to with some tweaking [14:26] could be some issue yet to be resolved. perhaps once we have release and a few bug fixes [14:26] bazhang: the actual material is a bit alternative, but not easy to find an available free stream right now [14:27] sure [14:27] just letting you know the technical issue I faced. [14:27] yes, thanks [14:28] download works here too, I had to install one [14:28] bazhang, when it is live I don`t think there are download option [14:29] silverarrow, ok. perhaps try again when it is live [14:30] no, it is usually exactly the same as the stream, live or replay [14:30] it`s all right though, bazhang you confirmed the issue [14:30] ok [14:30] I am on ppc and always wonder if it is ppc weirdness or not lol [14:30] or lubuntu or ubuntu [14:31] nah [14:31] it's their site [14:31] !find downverter [14:31] Package/file downverter does not exist in quantal [14:31] like the nasty BankID I had yesterday [14:31] I even filed a bug report [14:32] hello [14:32] hi [14:32] whats downverter [14:32] I would like to install downverter in ubuntu 12.10. How to install? [14:32] gio60, ^ [14:32] bazhang: converting options, mp3 and other formats? [14:33] gio60, whats downverter [14:33] silverarrow, I meant gio60 's question [14:34] bazhang, program where you can download and convert videos from YouTube [14:34] bazhang: odd your question is posted before gio60`s question on my screen [14:34] silverarrow, yeah, I saw him, mispost in #ubuntu first [14:34] lol [14:34] gio60, convert to what [14:35] flv to mp4? [14:35] ok, psychic mode [14:36] gio60, firefox has a plugin for that [14:36] firefox ? [14:36] video download helper [14:36] yeah, downloadhelper I converts I think [14:36] yes. it downloads youtube vids, then converts on the fly [14:36] it does [14:37] I just installed it three minutes ago [14:37] gio60, need the link? [14:37] bazhang, I use chrome, firefox faster [14:38] !info downverter | gio60 [14:38] gio60: Package downverter does not exist in quantal [14:38] chrome probably have an equivalent though [14:38] never used them, it's a google app [14:39] I have to go, it`s getting late and I have a flat tire on the backwheel [14:39] rarewheel ? [14:40] try #lubuntu, chrome is default there I think [14:40] I am on ppc right now, and firefox is the thing there [14:40] bazhang, I enter firefox add-ons? [14:41] yes, tools-addon and search [14:41] ok [14:41] I`m off, see you later perhaps [14:42] :-) [14:44] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ gio60 [14:44] I'm struggling with a wireless problem. RT3090 using a driver from a PPA works fine with Quantal and the kernel from Precise [14:45] dan_a: Did it work OK in precise? [14:45] Using the kernel from Quantal, wpa_supplicant can't talk to the driver [14:45] penguin42: yes [14:46] dan_a: Was that with the ppa on precise or just precise out of the box? [14:47] penguin42: ppa, which I've been using since 10.10 [14:48] Can I do a bisect across kernels from different versions of Ubuntu? [14:48] or is the best thing to test mainline 3.2 and 3.5 and bisect them? [14:50] dan_a: is it still necessary to use the ppa version? [14:54] penguin42: I think so [14:56] Oh maybe not, rt2800 should support it. I'll give that a go... [15:04] penguin42: Looks good so far - thank you! [15:06] dan_a: good; the thing is with a ppa it would take some digging to know what it was meant to work with [15:07] ok, so before I did a 'update-manager -d' i had my desktop on unity 2d, and now I can't login as that user... what file do I need to change under the username having problems? [15:12] sigh, that sounds like the same problem as jdfoote had earlier [15:12] RiXtEr: On the login manager, next to your name do you see an ubuntu/unity icon or other icon? [15:13] I couldn't find it, I am assuming it should be in the same place as 12.03 [15:13] err 12.04 that is [15:14] RiXtEr: Yeh same problem as the other guy [15:14] any way to fix this? [15:14] RiXtEr: not sure [15:14] or where are the channel logs? I dont mind finding it if its there. [15:15] I could download another WM and see if it shows then [15:15] RiXtEr: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/06/%23ubuntu+1.txt although th eother guy earlier today we didn't find a solution [15:15] what is the lightest one available? [15:16] desktop? [15:16] window manager/desktop [15:16] ;) [15:16] RiXtEr: the xfwm one is pretty light, you could try installing xubuntu-desktop and see if it lets you select it [15:17] brb [15:17] RiXtEr: Ubuntu-3d should work [15:18] sorry did you say something right before I left? [15:18] RiXtEr: I wonder, have you got ubuntu-3d installed? [15:18] fixed it [15:18] well let me confirm [15:18] how? [15:19] nevermind... progress though. [15:19] how - I'm interested for the next victim [15:19] cp /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu.desktop /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop [15:19] but [15:20] yeuch :-) [15:20] I now a completely blank desktop [15:20] so... [15:20] not fixed but I am getting somewhere [15:25] penguin42, I will do more investigation on this but I need to go for nwo [15:25] *now [15:26] Software center on Quantal consumes too much ram. :/ [15:26] RiXtEr: Please report a bug and tell us the number [15:26] and ctrl-alt-bkspace doesn't work now!? [15:26] it didn't with 12.04 either though [16:04] penguin42, ok, so i did a cp /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu.desktop /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop [16:05] and did that work? [16:05] then I edited the lines in /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop to read "Name=Ubuntu2d" and "Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu2d" [16:05] then I tried to switch to the 2d session [16:06] and it failed, but forced a logout [16:06] so I switched to regular ubuntu and it worked. [16:06] RiXtEr: how did you switch to regular ubuntu? [16:06] I get the button now [16:06] so you only get the button when you had two sessions? [16:07] yes [16:07] ok, can you bug report that? [16:07] presumably another WM/desktop would work [16:07] also, now I have removed the ubuntu2d.desktop and restarted lightdm [16:08] and now I can login fine (without the button) [16:08] so there is a default being set under the users home dir that needs fixed [16:08] RiXtEr: Well, also the lightdm greeter needs to do something more sensible if the current setting no longer exists [16:12] I think lightdm isn't the culprit [16:12] it hands off the session correctly [16:12] but then unity2d doesnt exist, so it drops back to the login screen [16:14] RiXtEr: Well it should just switch you back to the top of the list rather than logging you out with no explanation - or at least tell you [16:27] RiXtEr: Or at least allow you to switch it === RiXtEr is now known as RiXtEr-afk === RiXtEr-afk is now known as RiXtEr === RiXtEr is now known as RiXtEr-afk === RiXtEr-afk is now known as RiXtEr [17:19] anyone else seeing the mouse cursor rather jumpy in kvm guests in +1 ? === emma is now known as em === RiXtEr is now known as RiXtEr-afk === yofel_ is now known as yofel === RiXtEr-afk is now known as RiXtEr [18:43] How do I get my ati video card audio working in ubuntu 12.10? [18:43] I`m not sure you do [18:44] how old is it? [18:44] with the radeon driver they have to fix something with kernel and xorg I think, [18:44] got my laptop a couple years ago [18:44] on;ly just got a hdmi cable D: [18:45] then there should be restricted drivers for your card I think [18:45] those are good for screen connections [18:45] and tv [18:45] well [18:46] thta miht be a problem [18:46] as fglrx doesn't currently support 12.10 [18:46] :( [18:46] well, it has to on the final release [18:47] or it will be a major bummer for ubuntu [18:47] ye [18:48] graphics drivers should be well supported on newer cards [18:48] like yours [18:49] not so sure on 6-7 year old gards [18:49] cards* [18:49] but open radeon is good [18:50] problem right now is kernel, xorg [18:50] Mine's newish [18:50] but shit [18:50] its a 4250 [18:51] back in a few minutes, have to catch the store before it closes [19:05] rymate1234: 4250 is problematic ? [19:08] mine is a 9550 [19:09] with added powerpc weirdness [19:13] hey [19:13] simple question [19:13] How to get a battery indicator in xfce [19:14] not sure, but in lxde you have to retrieve it [19:14] ok [19:14] * rymate1234 looks up [19:15]