[05:38] * Kilos gets the worms again [05:38] morning guys [06:41] morning [06:54] morning ion Kilos [06:54] hiya Squirm [06:55] morning superfly [06:55] ion? [06:55] ive even got xchat gnome here to try find my bloep [06:56] looks like the bloep sound itself isnt in kde [06:56] Kilos: meh that was my autocorrect that translated oom to ion [06:57] lol [06:57] ion Kilos ... that does have a ring to it, doesn't it? [06:57] xchat-gnome at least gives a feeble ping on nick mentioned [06:57] hehehe [06:59] but xchat-gnome sucks, not as manageable as xchat so gonna try till either xchat or quassel give me a bloep [06:59] maybe better to do a backup before i do something to crash kde [07:05] good morning [07:22] hiya magespawn [07:27] hey superfly [07:29] yo magespawn [07:58] is unloaded a good thing? [07:58] Sound-notification plugin unloaded. [07:58] Messaging Indicator 0.3.10 plugin unloaded. [08:02] or does that mean disabled [08:04] hey Kilos, that means they are not running [08:06] aw [08:06] kde very stubborn [08:09] mm maybe] [08:50] any luck Kilos? [09:07] nope not yet magespawn but a did a deja-dup backup so can take some chances i think [09:08] that message didnt come up again though [09:09] but with xchat you can set it to use and external program to play alerts so there is hope yet, just trying to find the gnome error beep file [09:10] thats my bloep i think [09:11] kde only has its own musical thingies not the error bloep [09:12] if im in the kitchen cooking or lying down i wanna hear bloep [09:15] i think xchat looks for the gnome alert file which isnt on kde [09:27] can you not make it look for the alert file on kde? [09:28] import the sound you want [09:43] yes but kde alerts are music not a loud bloep [09:43] im fussy [09:43] hehe [09:51] i am sure we can find the loud bloep for you on the net [09:51] where did you first hear it? what program? [09:52] nuvolari is your droid rooted? [09:56] ubuntu [09:57] its one of the gnome sound files i think magespawn [09:57] like when evo mail comes in and you backspace too many times [10:08] wbb [11:44] later all === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [13:28] Maaz: tell magespawn yeah, it is rooted. wait, is rooted and unlocked the same thing? It's unlocked... not sure about rooted now :P [13:28] nuvolari: Righto, I'll tell magespawn on freenode === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [14:19] good afternoon [14:19] Maaz: coffee on [14:19] * Maaz puts the kettle on [14:21] so--what i missed [14:21] ? [14:22] hi Kilos [14:23] not much, it's been quite silent today [14:23] hi charlvn howzit [14:23] how's it going man [14:23] pretty good [14:23] ok ty and you? [14:23] just had some apple tart with a friend [14:23] lol yum yum [14:23] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [14:23] yeah i am treating my friends now since i am moved into my new appartment [14:23] aw [14:23] Maaz: thanks [14:23] charlvn: No problem [14:24] Maaz, swine [14:24] Kilos: What? [14:24] lol [14:24] not what . I beg your pardon! [14:25] Kilos: you want to fetch a can opener? :) [14:25] hehe [14:26] Maaz, swine [14:26] If you call me names Kilos you will make you're own coffee and do your own googling! [14:26] hmm [14:27] :D [14:31] gonna see if the boks can beat them all blacks [14:32] on and off i spose [14:44] http://ballsdot.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/6uOFw.jpg [15:45] aloha :> [15:45] hi oom Kilos, charlvn [15:46] when is the rugby? [15:46] and who are we playing? [15:46] oh, allblack [15:46] s [15:46] nuvolari: rooted means you have root access, which *usually* means you had to install a custom bootloader [15:47] * superfly has completely changed his Kindle Fire [15:48] hmm, then my Nexus was rooted, unlocked and flashed [15:49] but it's only unlocked after the stock rom got flashed prior to 4.1.1 upgrade [15:49] I like the new feature in chrome where you can have multiple user profiles [15:50] lo nuvolari rugby now first half over [15:51] magties! we're ahead :D [15:58] hi nuvolari [16:07] superfly: interesting, what have you done exactly? [16:08] I rooted it, and then loaded Jelly Bean on it, so it no longer runs the Amazon version of Androind 2.3 [16:08] Didn't take much to change it [16:09] In order to root it I had to load a custom bootloader too, so not event the Amazon bootloader is left on it [16:09] *even [16:13] nice [16:39] South Africa 16 vs New Zealand 29 [16:39] :-/ [16:39] yeah poor show === Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn [17:17] lo [17:19] evening all [17:20] hello's [17:20] hi magespawn, Squirm [17:20] hello nuvolari [17:20] * magespawn tips his hat to nuvolari and Squirm [17:21] lo there magespawn [17:21] nuvolari: I'm coming to stay with you sometime. just giving you some warning [17:22] goeie aand [17:22] hello inetpro [17:22] ek meen goeie naand [17:22] Squirm: eh [17:22] hey inetpro [17:23] ehlo magespawn [17:23] how goes it on buntu-za land? [17:23] hot but nice [17:26] while I won't do it I would love to trip some powers tonight [17:26] whoever said A+ is platform independant and vendor neutral they are smoking their socks [17:26] neighbors doing as if they are alone in this world again [17:26] ahh right [17:27] Squirm: that's if I'm still staying here :P [17:27] oh, in ballito :P [17:27] ok [17:27] lol [17:27] I'm not moving away [17:27] lol [17:27] just on the lookout for another place to stay/buy [17:28] or maybe Squirm will just track you down no matter where you are nuvolari [17:28] the owners want to sell this place :( [17:28] magespawn: maybe. from this channel, he's the only person I've met [17:28] magespawn: pfft, he's harmless [17:28] :P [17:28] and you cannot buy it nuvolari ? [17:28] mebbe not, I shouldn't be so sure about that [17:29] magespawn: no :-/ [17:29] I don't own that much [17:29] well then by association you have met me too [17:29] last time I heard they wanted R1.9m for this place [17:30] by association, I've met everyone :P [17:30] yup [17:30] lol, nuvolari, at your current salary, you could afford that easily [17:30] Squirm: eh? you don't know how much I own [17:30] nuvolari: what is it, house or flat or ? [17:30] s/own/earn [17:31] magespawn: a house, rather big yard with a sea view from the balcony [17:31] good investment [17:31] thanks Squirm [17:31] I don't want to know what the volume levels must be in me neighbors house [17:31] yeah, you don't know how much I earn [17:31] me sound meter tells me that the sound level in me house goes up to 62dB [17:31] inetpro: rush over! their brains might be pulp already [17:31] ahh is there rental possibility? [17:32] inetpro: that is serriously loud [17:32] nuvolari: maybe I'll come over end of november. can hit a a club or 2 during rage [17:33] rage is in jhb, isn't it? [17:33] magespawn: well, the people currently staying in the other part already rent, and I rent from them, so I'm not really in a position to negotiate :-/ [17:33] magespawn: rage is everywhere. mainly on the coast [17:33] magespawn: not LAN rage [17:33] :P [17:33] oh [17:33] matric rage [17:33] no, not that rage [17:33] what he said [17:34] banks lend money more readily if there is rental involved [17:34] how much rental is involved if you rent the section where the owners stay now? [17:35] magespawn: I think the actual owners are wanting to sell. not who he's renting from [17:35] hmm, my guess is combined our rental is about 9 grand [17:35] so they'll lose their place too [17:35] could be more [17:36] I don't know what cut of the entire rental I pay [17:36] in ballito, anything is possible [17:36] yeah, the actual owners want to sell [17:36] how many places to rent are there, just 2? your and the other renters? [17:36] houses have shot up there. everytime I drive past it's full up [17:37] well, it's 1 house, and a door separates me from the couple staying in the other part :P [17:37] so you're kept up by interesting noises most nights? [17:38] do you know how big the plot is? [17:38] not as interesting as expected... they fight all the time [17:38] I was kept awake last Friday by a friends room mate :/ [17:38] lol [17:38] magespawn: hmm, let me try to estimate from google maps :P [17:40] I just got promotion so I'm not a junior anymore \o/ ...but I don't think that's enough to buy me a home just yet :P [17:41] nuvolari: just go buy your own place [17:43] magespawn: rough estimate = 875m² [17:44] inetpro: it's crazy expensive here :-/ 1 bedroom apartment, 39m² ~ 520k [17:44] i would suggest you go and have a chat with a bank or bond company or use the online tools [17:44] eish! [17:45] bbl fish time [17:45] lucky to get something for 490k [17:45] nuvolari: just build yourself a pondokkie on the beach [17:46] lol, yeah, that would be awesome :P [17:48] sjoe julle praat n hond uit die bos uit [17:54] oom Kilos, oom het te gou gepraat.. :P [17:55] lol [18:19] Kilos: guten abend [18:19] jy reggekom met jou klankies? [18:19] maybe it's something as simple as sound files that are not installed on kubuntu [18:20] you should check in /usr/share/sounds/ [18:20] nee inetpro maar gaan xchat gebruik met buite klank [18:21] compare what is in that folder between a working version and your kubuntu [18:23] you should even be able to see the difference from your backups [18:24] just run a rsync with the dry run option [18:24] rsync -anv --delete /backups/usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/sounds/ [18:24] in xchat2/sounds there isnt a file [18:25] so thought of getting the bloep somewhere and adding it in there [18:25] Kilos: yes but you have to know the file name [18:26] ya mage was gonna look for it [18:27] in the /sounds/ here there are spanne but all kde cute sounds not a bloep [18:27] my bloep is the ubuntu gnome error beep or mail arrived sound [18:27] will look on other drive if i find any there [18:29] Kilos: just don't ake a mistake with that rsync command [18:29] s/ake/make/ [18:29] i copy/pasted it [18:29] otherwise it will delete files [18:29] i never try type them out [18:30] the n option is for dry run so it won't do anything [18:30] rsync: change_dir "/backups/usr/share/sounds" failed: No such file or directory (2) [18:30] tried with sudo too [18:30] just so that you can see what would be deleted and what would be added [18:31] Kilos: well obviously I assumed that you would change the folder to your backup source [18:31] hahaha [18:31] jou dom donner [18:32] my backup is in /storage/ and its spanne duplicity files [18:32] deja-dup way [18:33] i didnt get them into one folder because i couldnt change the path [18:33] path showed as /storage and i could type no more [18:33] oh [18:34] i havent done a rsync of home [18:34] only archives [18:34] then deja-dup for backup [18:34] Kilos: did I say home anywhere? [18:34] i just gotta go make some food quick [18:35] scuse me [18:35] no [18:35] you said backup [18:35] hmm... I thought so [18:35] we used to do rsync to /backup/home/member [18:35] so!? [18:36] so9 i must make a backup folder on /storage [18:36] Kilos: we're trying to figure what sound file xchat would be using [18:36] then run that command [18:36] and those files would typically not live in your home folder [18:37] im on kde now so cant do it from here [18:37] * inetpro assumed that Kilos had made a complete backup of Unity somewhere [18:37] i did cd /usr/share/sounds/ [18:37] then ls [18:38] lotsa sound files there [18:38] ya deja-dup backup [18:38] they all duplicity files [18:38] Kilos: do you have anything in /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/ ? [18:39] cant see whats all in them [18:39] nope [18:40] no such file [18:40] this is kde [18:40] Kilos: I rest my case [18:40] lemme go sort food then come read everything again [18:40] xchat is most likely using some default gnome files [18:40] Kilos: ok [18:40] peeps waiting for scrambled eggs [18:41] ya thats right [18:41] there some gnome stuff missing here [18:41] Kilos: and please note that I'm not saying that it will be anything in /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/ [18:42] that was just to prove my point [18:44] Kilos: so now let's take /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg as an example -- say if that was the file needed by xchat [18:44] we would have to find out which package is the one that provides that file [18:47] and it looks like it would be installed together with gnome-control-center-data [18:48] ya [18:48] can i install that safely here [18:49] Kilos: may be worth a try, while we're still just guessing [18:49] the sad part is that you would install a huge lot of other dependancies [18:49] dependencies* [18:51] ya but can i remove them later and keep the sound files in place for xchat to find them [18:51] ill give it a go if i awake till 11pm [18:51] then use night surfer [19:00] but actually that bloep/beep sound must just be a wav file or something [19:00] with xchat one can tick use external sound goodie and give the path [19:04] hey all [19:05] Kilos: you could also try something like ubuntu-sounds [19:05] Kilos: mine can [19:05] xchat2 [19:05] yeah it must be in there somewhere [19:05] if i get the bloep in kde then i can live with it [19:06] in my xchat2 there is nothing Squirm [19:06] xchat 2.8.8 [19:07] in the Ubuntu repo's [19:07] ya but i installed xchat into kde Squirm [19:07] I haven't used kde in many years [19:07] but it still should be the same [19:07] and kde dont have the gnome sounds [19:08] look under Preferences -> chatting -> sounds [19:08] mine has an events list, where you can select the sound file you want to play on event [19:10] Kilos: did you install play? [19:11] i think so [19:12] should i have? [19:12] i run to stir eggs [19:13] Kilos: play /usr/share/sounds/Kopete_Received.ogg [19:14] ja it goes piidaaa [19:14] ok [19:15] now loop through each file in that folder and listen to each in turn [19:15] until you find which one you like [19:15] i have listened to them all [19:15] hmm... [19:15] when i install konversation it adds more [19:15] for f in `find /usr/share/sounds/ -type f` ; do play $f ; sleep 2 ; done [19:16] huh? [19:16] you talking to me here not the fly [19:16] Kilos: :-) [19:16] hehe [19:17] that will simply play a file, then wait 2 seconds and play the next, untill you stop it or until you have listened to them all [19:17] starting with find [19:17] no [19:18] starting with for [19:18] wow [19:18] and ending with done [19:18] but i know the bloep aint there [19:18] maybe you missed it [19:18] all nice sounding kde sounds [19:19] Maaz: coffee on [19:19] * Maaz puts the kettle on [19:19] Kilos: so what is the problem? [19:19] phew am thirsty, been watching too much youtube and forgot i need to drink :) [19:19] hi Kilos, inetpro [19:19] charlvn: hi [19:23] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [19:23] Maaz: thanks [19:23] charlvn: Sure [19:24] *glug glug glug* aah! [19:25] inetpro, the bloep gets through other noise in the area [19:25] hmm... [19:26] so Kilos you are looking for a specific sound to play? [19:27] if i member right i didnt have sound in xchat in 11.04 [19:27] and used the external way [19:27] but had xchat making same sound like pidgin [19:28] so is is a pidgin sound then or just some generic sound file? [19:28] its the gnome sound for when you press backspace too many times [19:28] etc [19:28] error beep i think [19:29] it makes a bloep sound [19:29] okay so then we should be able to find it on a gnome system [19:29] * magespawn goes to check [19:30] one of my lappies is still on 9.04 [19:34] inetpro, do you know the bloep sound im talking about [19:35] you most likely never heard it [19:35] though i was mad inna blog [19:35] thought [19:36] Kilos do recall what the file was called? [19:37] nope magespawn i never needed to find it [19:37] how many sounds can there be in gnome [19:37] * inetpro be back laters [19:37] there is a few [19:37] install xchat on there and you will hear it when nick said' [19:38] brb [19:38] too me it sounds like bloep [19:41] who thinks up tha names to these packages like libsexy? [19:41] s/tha/the [19:41] hehe [19:41] all linux got funny names [19:42] libmad [19:43] hehe [19:44] magespawnXCHAT [19:44] now go settings prefs [19:44] in alerts set top 2 rows all ticked [19:44] bottom 2 leave only first 1 then tick others [19:45] magespawnXCHAT, === tumbleweed_ is now known as tumbleweed [19:55] uh oh [19:56] net splits again [19:56] wb all you net splitted guys [19:57] Kilos i went and specified the sound i wanted from /usr/share/sounds/ [19:57] didnt you listen to the default one first [19:58] there was none [19:58] you didnt tick by alerts [19:58] i did but there was no sound [19:58] go settings preferences alerts [19:58] tick eveything there to start [19:58] aw [19:59] oh you need to restart xchat first [20:00] xchat rocks [20:00] i see your fone from quassel [20:00] magespawnXCHAT: [20:01] magespawnXCHAT: [20:01] do you hear it now [20:01] nope [20:01] no sound [20:01] ? [20:01] magespawnXCHAT: [20:01] nothing [20:02] untick the using outside route [20:02] tick top one [20:02] that is what is ticked [20:02] automatic [20:02] oh my [20:03] does that lappies sound work?? [20:03] yes [20:03] oh my [20:03] this does not exist /home/magespawn/.xchat2/sounds [20:03] so there are no default sounds [20:03] my first probs with sound in xchat only started with unity [20:04] oh [20:04] you havent got some other things in synaptic installed [20:04] it uses one of the gstreamer things [20:04] install mplayer [20:05] neil didnt have sound till he installed it [20:06] i have sound even in xchat, just not the default sounds [20:07]