[15:11] holstein, just looking at the LMMS docs... It looks to me like there is no way of directly recording audio tracks. [15:11] It seems to suggest that audio tracks/samples are recorded with another application like audacity and imported [15:12] len-dt: i *totally* agree with your latest email [15:12] * smartboyhw agrees too [15:12] i dont mind when time allows to test whatever to get it working [15:13] It would seem to me that having to record vocals separately in another app is not that novice friendly... [15:13] ive got something like 10 shows a week for the next few weeks, but i have time in between them near internet [15:14] len-dt: ive never thought it was "friendly".. i think it looks friendly [15:14] holstein, len-dt want to do that open week session eh? [15:14] its drag and drop-ish. and kind of has the feel of that ap everyone misses... is it acid? [15:15] I guess I am a play it from start to finish kind of person... [15:15] lol [15:15] No two verses are exacly the same in feel. [15:16] yeah... i dont need this tool either, but i dont want it cause it crashes with JACK [15:16] Even the chorus tends to vary [15:16] if thats not the case, then toss it in [15:17] len-dt: i thought there was an lmms dev in the #opensourcemusicians channel.. someone fired up about makin it stable [15:18] * smartboyhw finds that his question has been ignored:`( [15:18] smartboyhw: im just going to sneak in whatever testing when i can [15:18] holstein, good.....but not THAT question:D [15:18] i did an open week presentation once though... it was great [15:18] good times :) [15:18] smartboyhw, The word "week" scares me. [15:19] len-dt, no no no [15:19] len-dt, just a session of 1 hour talking about Ubuntu Studio in #ubuntu-classroom [15:19] My spare time is a lot less now than it has been... and scheduling anything has become very hard. [15:20] around 23rd and 24th [15:20] yeah, im slammed til november.. then im out of town twice [15:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek I think [15:20] oops 24th and 25th:D [15:21] smartboyhw, I'll look later [15:21] len-dt, thx [15:21] I am not going to do it, I got a full Ubuntu QA session to take care of:D [15:22] it = Ubuntu Studio session [15:22] holstein, I get the idea that LMMS is a computer version of those keyboards that have beat boxes and extensive record edit stuff. [15:23] len-dt: maybe.. it looks a lot like that application. i think its acid.. i saw a friend use it in windows [15:23] Generally nothing that would be used on stage. [15:23] (the extra controls would get in the way) [15:23] you could drag/drop samples into a timeline, and the "edges" would get cleaned up automatically, and the sample would get sized to fit [15:24] you could record yourself doing *anything* for a measure or 2, even somewhat in time, and the software just made it magically sound tolerable [15:25] Interesting. [15:25] :) [15:26] that was years ago as well... like 2005-ish? i bet it does more now [15:27] By Sony? [15:27] im going to keep looking, but i think sony acid was the one http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/acidsoftware [15:27] lemme google some screenies.. i think i would recognize it [15:28] len-dt, btw how is that SRU going for the no help fix? [15:28] that looks like it... same kind of "toy-ish" look and feel [15:31] You too can sound like [insert fav boy band here] [15:31] lol.. right? [15:32] Sometimes creative people start in strange places. [15:32] and you can... iirc, there was some reverb already on the master bus (not that it was called master bus) [15:39] :D [15:43] bye holstein and len-dt [15:43] holstein, acid claims it does everything, multitrack recording to midi. Is it standard windows practice that you give the application vendor personal info before it will run? [15:43] * holstein shrugs... maybe [15:44] -10 [15:53] holstein, in any case there is nothing else I have seen that supports that much automation as LMMS does. It is funny, there was a shareware sequencer I used on my old atari mega 2 that I really liked. I have seen nothing like it since. [15:56] It was very basic in some ways, but it did the basics very well. It had the most solid time base of anything at the time too. [16:03] len-dt: theres a need for sure... something "simple" and maybe something that does everything on its own and doesnt use or need to use JACK [22:22] len-dt: holstein lmms has not been updated for a while [22:23] The fact that you can't record with it is not a deal breaker for me. It's still good for making electronic music [22:23] It can import fruity loops projects [22:23] Don't know what the updated version can do [22:24] On another matter. I was helping a friend install 12.10 [22:24] It never even crossed my mind to keep the open source ATI graphic drivers [22:24] Even though they work well with the desktop [22:25] We installed wine, and steam. No problem running HL2 [22:25] fglrx on the other hand, I couldn't get working, and info on the net was sparse [23:01] ailo, lmms has not been updated in a while means lmms itself or the debian project or ubuntu?