/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/07/#lubuntu.txt

matteo_Ciao a tutti? qualche italiano?07:20
matteo_good morning! there is an italian here?07:21
fghCustomize autoplay actions:  HOW TO ??09:54
silverarrowhi10:06
silverarrowanyone here on a sunday?10:06
fghy10:06
fghI' waiting for a reply10:06
fghbut it seems they're not in the way to10:06
silverarrowby a misunderstanding I installed seahorse last night, and I want to remove it10:07
fghit10:07
fghsilverarrow: sudo apt-get purge seahorse*10:07
silverarrowwhat is the default app in lubuntu for password and encryption10:07
silverarrowi can do that safely, without messing up+10:08
silverarrow?10:08
fghsilverarrow: Who said it messes up anything?10:08
silverarrowwell, removing  packages, perhaps  not the main seahorse package, but dependencies10:09
fghjust ty, and BEFORE confirfm (it asks you whether to proceed or not)10:09
fghjust have a look on the package names of those which are gonna be removed10:09
silverarrowonly a single package to be removed on that comand10:09
silverarrowwhich looks safe10:10
fgh.)10:10
fgh:)10:10
silverarrowI got this http://imagebin.org/23118410:11
fghthat's ok! ahah you're new with linux?10:12
silverarrownot reall, but I hardly ever know what I am doing in termnal10:13
silverarrowstuff seem to happen by its` self10:13
silverarrowI have removed packages before that have messed up, and real fuzz to get back to start10:14
silverarrowlike reinstall of entire os, which is a horror10:14
silverarrowmaybe best way is to just go ahead and take it from there10:15
silverarrowand not fuzz too much in advance10:15
aklsSo I was working on my projects... And my script creates a lot of png files that I want to delete from time to time, so I was doing it from terminal by "rm *.png". After one hundred times I thought that maybe I should create a bash file that would do exactly the same, for the exception that I wont have to open a terminal and type it in again and again or search it in the terminal history...10:38
aklsso I created a file with two strings #!/bin/bash rm *.png and made it executable10:39
aklsthen I double clicked it in my project folder...10:39
aklsand nothing happened..10:39
aklswell, it seemed that nothing happened10:39
aklsreally all my png files in a home folder got removed10:40
aklsdamn.10:40
aklsshouldn't pcmanfm execute scripts as if it was in that folder?10:40
fghno akls10:56
fghcaml down )10:56
fghfirst of all, in a script the importance of LINES must be respected10:56
tty007Hallo10:57
aklsfgh, what do you mean?10:57
fghit means you must leave  #!/bin/bash   alone in the head10:57
fghany other command must be in another line10:57
aklsfgh, oh, maybe you misunderstood me10:57
aklsfgh, let me illustrate that10:57
tty007Is there anyone who use powermac on lubuntu 12.04 LTS?10:57
fghtty007: WOOOW you found me! LOL10:58
fgh:D10:58
fghI'm just installing it on a iBook G410:58
fghLate 200410:58
aklsfgh, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-07-135815_496x391_scrot.png here's the script10:58
aklsfgh, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-07-135850_1149x344_scrot.png10:59
aklsand here's my folder10:59
fghoh ok akls, you wrote on the same line up here ^^ :)10:59
fghOk10:59
tty007i got strange behavior when i start system sometimes the kernel crashed and nothing happens10:59
aklsfgh, so is it correct behavior for this script to remove all pngs in my home folder when I double click it?10:59
tty007i dont know but it seems a driver issue10:59
fghnow, SECOND:  you have to know that bash's default start-directory is your home dir (unless you changed it, but I don't think so)10:59
fghakls: yes11:00
aklsfgh, why?11:00
tty007Is there any need of usinf xorg.conf i thought no?11:00
aklsfgh, well, if I start it this way https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-07-140049_195x46_scrot.png11:00
aklsfgh, it works correctly11:01
fghakls: very probably you didn't set the "execution" bit : the permission to execute the script :)11:01
aklsfgh, nah, you don't get it...11:01
fghakls: please use pastebin, images aren't this useful this cases11:01
aklsfgh, if I open up a terminal in my folder that contains the script and execute it like ./deletepngs11:01
aklsfgh, it works just as I expect it to work11:02
aklsfgh, now if I double click it11:02
aklsfgh, then pcmanfm gives me this message https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-07-140215_622x101_scrot.png11:02
fghakls: press "execute in terminal"11:02
aklsI click execute and it executes it from the home folder. Shouldn't it cd to the folder I'm in now?11:03
fghakls: oooooooh :)11:03
aklsfgh, same thing11:03
fghwell nope11:03
fghyou know why? :D11:04
aklsnope11:04
aklswell, I understand, but for me this seems like a bug11:04
fghyou should add  ./   to your rm command to state that you want it to execut on the current folder11:04
fghif not, bash simply runs it on its default home folder11:04
aklshmmmhmm11:05
fghrm ./*.png11:05
fghtty007: which mac you're using?11:05
tty007fgh: powermac G411:06
tty007fgh: Copyright 1983-200111:07
aklsfgh, nope, doesn't work11:07
fghtty007: check which video-chip model it's using and which driver, too11:07
fghtty007:  lspci -k|grep -iA 3 vga11:08
fghakls: well, and whatt if you choose "run in terminal" instead of "Run"?11:08
tty007fgh: right know i didnt find out how using pipe on mac keyboard11:08
tty007fgh: but thanks for info11:09
fghtty007: :) you should reconfigure your keyboard11:09
aklsfgh, same thing11:09
fghtty007: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration11:09
fghakls: I don't believe ahah11:09
fghlet me try11:09
aklsfgh, I've checked it - it looks like for the script the current folder is /home/myuser11:09
aklsfgh, you can use notify-send "${PWD}" to see current directory11:12
fghakls: wtf you're right11:12
fghthis is fucking pcmanfm bug11:12
aklswell, that's the problem :(11:12
aklsand that's what I'm talking about11:12
fghI was already in the way to replace it with another fileman11:12
fghit sucks11:12
fghi can't even manage autoplay actions11:12
aklshmm.. now how can I report it?11:13
fghakls: do you know about something for autoplay? D:11:13
aklsfgh, autoplay? what's wrong with autoplay?11:13
fghakls: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs11:13
fghakls: I don't know how to manage actions that i want to happen when certain events happen11:14
fghsorry for my english, btw I'm not native11:14
aklsme too11:14
fghwhere are you from?11:15
aklsand no, I don't know anything about your problem :\11:15
aklsEstonia11:15
fghoh11:15
fghdidnt know what .ee   was11:15
fghI thought europe XD11:15
akls:D11:15
fghand, also ..11:16
fghour two problems are somewhat related11:16
fghalways fighting against action-amanage windows11:16
fghasd11:16
fghakls: I found  workaround11:18
aklsfgh, so?11:18
aklswhat is it?11:18
fgh#!/bin/bash11:19
fghrm `pwd`/*.png;11:19
fghpwd prints the current directory11:19
aklsah, yeah11:19
aklsright11:19
aklsby the way, ` ` quotes are old style11:20
fghlol11:20
aklsit's recommended to use $( ) if I'm not mistaken11:20
fghye they're the same11:20
fghand old style is always better x)11:20
aklsnot really11:20
aklssame goes for if [ ]11:21
aklsyou should use [[ ]] now :)11:21
fghakls: i don't remember how this symbol is usually called => `11:21
aklsand the reason not to use ` ` is because sometimes on some resources they're replaces with other quotes like '11:21
aklsit's called grave accent11:22
fghhmmmm nope11:22
fghthat has another common name11:22
fghit's a high single quote11:22
aklshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation_marks11:22
fghnot an accent11:22
aklshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_accent11:23
fgh-.-11:23
fghLOL11:23
fghè <== this is a grave accent (the one on the e)11:24
fghè `11:24
fghoh fuck11:24
fghit seemed more high lol11:24
fghwait but there was another common name xD11:24
fgh(for computers)11:25
fghFOUND!   backtick11:27
fghakls: ^^11:27
aklsyeah :)11:27
aklshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/106319211:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1063192 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "pcmanfm executes scripts from the home directory" [Undecided,New]11:28
akls:)11:29
aklsshould I mark it as "confirmed" ? It's pretty obvious...11:29
fghy11:29
fghor better, you could not :S11:30
fghthat is mod's affair I think11:30
fghwooah i read "taoseeker" akls11:34
fghyou taoist too? xD11:34
aklstaowhat? :)11:34
aklsnope :)11:35
fghlol11:35
fghwhere the nick comes from?11:36
aklshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/88200111:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 882001 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "Files lost when restoring them from trash" [Undecided,New]11:37
aklslol, found my own bug report :D11:37
fgh!bug 88200111:37
aklspcmanfm is a shit, yes :\11:37
fghmostly because of the lack of documentation11:37
aklsit seems like no one is working on it :(11:37
fghit wouldn't be that bad withh more doc11:38
aklsfgh, which nick? :\11:38
fghand, also, there *is* someone working lol ... Version 1.0.1 came out not much time ago11:38
fghakls: In your screenshots .. the username in the console :P11:39
aklsfgh, I have "alex" username on my screenshots11:40
aklsit's pretty common name11:40
aklshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex11:40
aklsdon't know that taoseeker thing you're talking about11:41
fghlol I'm not freaking out o.O11:42
fghWTF, it was the other user's screenshot11:43
fghbwahaha I seem retarted11:43
fghI just have to sleep a bit11:43
fghlol11:43
aklsoh, by the way11:43
aklsyou're wrong11:43
akls<fgh> rm `pwd`/*.png;11:43
aklsthis is not going to work11:43
aklspwd tells the current directory11:44
aklswhich is /home/user in pcmanfm case11:44
akls:\11:44
aklsbut there's a workaround11:44
fghakls:11:44
fghdo this11:44
fghecho -e `pwd`/*.png;11:44
aklsthe path to the current executing script is stored in $011:44
fghalso11:45
aklsfgh, no-no and no11:45
aklstry it out. it will be /home/user11:45
fghbut (even if I didn't try with rm) I think it works11:45
aklstry it out by double-clicking it11:45
fghno no it works for me11:46
fghIn effect, that command is executed in another shell (by definition of that feature)11:46
fghbut look11:46
fghlinux@eMachines442:~$ echo "`pwd`/*.png"11:47
fgh/home/linux/*.png11:47
fghlinux@eMachines442:~$ cd Scaricati/11:47
fghlinux@eMachines442:~/Scaricati$ pwd11:47
fgh/home/linux/Scaricati11:47
fghlinux@eMachines442:~/Scaricati$ echo `pwd`11:47
fgh/home/linux/Scaricati11:47
fghlinux@eMachines442:~/Scaricati$ echo `pwd`/*.png11:47
fgh/home/linux/Scaricati/*.png11:47
fghi DOESN'T  show always the homedir as you say11:47
aklsNO11:48
aklsdo not use it from terminal11:48
aklsput it in a script, double click to execute it11:48
aklsand you will feel the difference11:48
aklsof course it works in the terminal11:48
aklsbut I'm trying to workaround the pcmanfm problem11:48
aklsand to feel it - put this in your script11:48
aklsnotify-send "$(dirname "$0")"11:48
aklsnotify-send "$(pwd)"11:48
fghye correct, $0 could do good11:49
fghor nope, it prints /bin/bash11:52
aklsfgh, only from the terminal.11:53
aklsso yeah, using this in a script does work: rm "$(dirname "$0")"/*.png11:54
aklshaha, imagine if I was using backticks11:54
aklsrm "`dirname "$0"`"/*.png11:54
aklswhat a mess :D11:54
fghakls: maybe it's me12:04
fghmaybe i'm tired12:04
fghbut why doesn't it work neither with your solutino?12:05
fghoh no, it works12:06
akls:)12:12
aklswell, bye-bye ;(12:20
akls;)12:20
=== MrChrisDruif is now known as BrokenThumb
kanliothi BrokenThumb12:31
BrokenThumbHi kanliot12:32
bennypr0fanehello, I just installed Lubuntu 12.04 and apparently I got all the fonts set to HUGE. In preferences>look and feel, the system font was set to 11, but it looks on my screen like 28 or so. I changed that to 5, and now it's sort of in proportion, but not everywhere12:42
bennypr0fanee.g. font here ins Xchat, in TErminal is still huge12:43
bennypr0faneand the ones in the task bar panel12:43
bennypr0fanewould anyone know how to fix this?12:44
bioterrorsounds like television usage12:44
silverarrowdo you use bluetooth?12:45
kanliotdo you have xorg.conf12:45
bennypr0faneyes my screen is a tv12:45
bennypr0fanewhat is xorg.conf? How do I check if I have it?12:46
bennypr0faneno i don't use bluetooth, why?12:47
kanliot$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:48
bennypr0fanekanliot "command not found"12:48
bioterroryou need to fix the DPI12:49
bioterrorhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_Size_and_DPI12:49
kanliotdont type the $12:49
kanliotdon't read that yet12:49
kanlioti think hes a little new12:50
bennypr0faneI also have Bodhi Linux and LMDE on the same system, both with LXDE on top, haven't had this issue there12:50
bennypr0fanekanliot oops12:50
bennypr0fanethat's embarassing12:50
bennypr0faneI thought I wasn't THAT new...12:50
bennypr0faneSection "Device"12:50
bennypr0faneIdentifier"Default Device"12:50
bennypr0faneOption"NoLogo""True"12:50
bennypr0faneEndSection12:50
bioterroryeah, dont read it12:51
kanlioti donno12:51
bioterrordo as more experienced user kanliot states12:51
kanliotwhat's your screen resolution12:51
bennypr0fanedone12:51
bennypr0faneright now set to 1360x76812:52
kanliothave you tried rebooting?12:52
bennypr0fanethis is the 4th boot or so. you mean reboot after what?12:52
kanliotok no ideas12:53
kanliotsorry12:53
bioterrorkanliot, you have no ideas?12:53
kanliotya12:53
bioterrorSun15:50 <kanliot> don't read that yet12:53
bioterrorwhat was that all about then?12:53
bennypr0fanelooking at the archlinux page12:53
bioterrorare you a windows user or what? you think things mystically gets fixed if you just reboot your computer?12:54
bennypr0fane$  xdpyinfo | grep -B2 resolution12:54
bennypr0fanescreen #0:12:54
bennypr0fane  dimensions:    1360x768 pixels (161x90 millimeters)12:54
bennypr0fane  resolution:    215x217 dots per inch12:54
bioterrorbennypr0fane, there you go12:54
bennypr0fanewhat do I need to change it to?12:55
bioterrorbenny helping another benny, how cute that is <312:55
bennypr0fanewhy, you a benny too?12:55
kanliotphysical screen size is very low12:55
bennypr0fanewhich of these figures is the physical screen size?12:56
bioterrorbennypr0fane, check that "Setting DPI manually" it guides you with this option "DPI" "96 x 96"12:56
bennypr0faneok12:57
bioterrorI think 120 x 120 could be a good choice12:57
bennypr0faneoof, I'm not a fan of doing the "manual" thing, I always mess it up12:57
bioterrorit's time to cut the umbilical cord ;)12:58
bennypr0fanethere's something about Nvidia cards12:59
bennypr0faneI have one and currently using the proprietary driver from Jockey12:59
bennypr0faneso if I want to fix this I have to learn everything about xorg.conf first, yes?13:00
bennypr0fanethere is always mention of "screen size", but I'm not sure what is meant by that. Does it mean the max resolution my screen can do, or just what it's currently set to by the OS?13:01
bioterroryou just need to add that one line to xorg.conf under section monitor13:02
bennypr0fanewhcih one line exactly? trouble is I don't kn ow my monitors exact spüecs, I got it used with no packaging, documentation etc., dont even know model and make (haven't searched its complete surface yet)13:04
bioterror   Option                 "DPI" "96 x 96"13:05
bioterrorand you can grow the size from 96 to 120 x 12013:05
kanliotunder Section "Monitor"13:05
bennypr0faneok13:07
bennypr0faneadd it to the current options or replace them?13:08
bennypr0fanenow I have "NoLogo" and "True"13:08
kanliotif bio agrees, pastebin you xorg.conf13:08
bennypr0faneit's what I pasted before13:09
bioterrorall you have to do is to add one line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf13:09
bennypr0faneSection "Device"13:09
bennypr0faneIdentifier"Default Device"13:09
bennypr0faneOption"NoLogo""True"13:09
bennypr0faneEndSection13:09
bioterroris that your whole xorg.conf?13:10
bennypr0faneI'm pasting it here because it's only 4  short lines. don't worry I won't anything longer than that13:10
bennypr0faneyes, that's it13:10
bioterrorlooks a little crippled for me13:11
bennypr0faneI understand I need to specify the DPI be adding it here, but I'm yet unclear about a) the values and b) whether or not to replace the existing options13:12
bennypr0faneone problem being that I don't know the exact size of my screen13:12
bennypr0faneIf I just try something I risk my video stopping to work and my screen is black at the next reboot?13:13
bennypr0fanebut I'm thinking maybe iot's possible this xorg.conf does not apply right now because I'm using the Nvidia driver?13:14
kanlioti donno13:16
bioterrorrename that config13:16
kanliotyou mentioned jockey13:16
bioterrorand make a real nvidia config13:16
bioterrornvidia-xconfig is the command13:16
bennypr0faneabout me asking all these questions - please try to understand my position. I'm trying my best to decipher that guide, but sentences like: "The Composite extension for X causes an entire sub-tree of the window hierarchy to be rendered to an off-screen buffer" do not make me any smarter I don't want to count the number of words here that I don't know what theyre referring to13:18
bennypr0fanejust so you know. some pages contain all the information one needs, if one knows all the other information13:19
bioterrorrename the xorg.conf you have now have13:19
bioterrorwith like xorg.conf.old13:19
bioterrorand make a new REAL config with this nvidia-xconfig command13:20
bennypr0faneok, so rename the xorg.config to xorg.conf.old13:20
bennypr0fanewill need to gksudo this I guess?13:20
bioterroror sudo13:20
bennypr0fane"rename" is the command for renaming?13:21
kanliotyou can use pcmanfm if that would help13:22
bennypr0faneok, made it13:24
bennypr0fanenow what do i need to put into the new conf13:24
bioterrornothing13:25
bioterrorcrate it with this nvidia's tool13:25
bennypr0fanehttp://pastebin.com/2Q7cnntG13:27
bennypr0faneok, here's what the new one looks like13:27
bennypr0fane_nah, it iddn't work, fonts are still huge13:34
=== bennypr0fane_ is now known as bennypr0fane
kanliotjust a guess but your new xorg didn't have the lines13:35
kanliotthat you were asked to add13:35
kanliotplease don't read any emotion into my information13:36
bennypr0faneok, I won't13:38
kanliotcool13:39
bennypr0faneas cool as pumpkin and honey-bunny.  the .conf already contains a section for "Monitor". that section has a line "option" do I add another line with "option" and the dpi value, or jsut the dpi value in the existing "option" line13:40
kanliotnew line13:41
bennypr0faneOR will it be ok to completely add this: "Section "Monitor"13:41
bennypr0fane    Identifier             "Monitor0"13:41
bennypr0fane    Option                 "DPI" "96 x 96"13:41
bennypr0faneEndSection" to whatever is already there?13:41
bennypr0faneright now, I made this:13:41
kanliotno, because that will be 2 monitor sections13:41
bennypr0faneSection "Monitor"13:42
bennypr0fane    Identifier     "Monitor0"13:42
bennypr0fane    VendorName     "Unknown"13:42
bennypr0fane    ModelName      "Unknown"13:42
bennypr0fane    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.013:42
bennypr0fane    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.013:42
bennypr0fane    Option         "DPMS"13:42
bennypr0fane    Option         "DPI" "120 x 120"13:42
bennypr0faneEndSection13:42
bennypr0fanegood like that?13:42
kanliotgood13:42
bennypr0faneawesome13:42
bennypr0fanetrying the new dpi now. must reboot for that, yes?13:44
kanliotactually i donno13:44
bennypr0faneok, I'll try.13:45
kanliothi redderhs i got yer message about vlc13:49
redderhshey, msg me in offtopic13:49
bennypr0fanehello. this did the trick!13:53
bioterrorofcourse it did13:53
bennypr0faneThank you bioterror and kanliot!13:53
bennypr0fanejust took me a while what exactly you wanted me to do13:53
bennypr0fanethanks guys, have a nice day!13:54
bennypr0fane*just took me while to understand what you wanted me to do13:54
bennypr0fanebye13:54
sb1980hi! i'm having troubles with my audio in lubuntu: different apps seem to  block each other from using the audio output. when i have a flash running, afterwards mpd gives no audio output anymore e.g.14:02
sb1980how can i resolve this?14:02
bioterrorI solved it using jack14:04
sb1980bioterror: how exactly?14:06
sb1980i used pulsaudio but it made things even worse14:07
bioterrorI installed some alsa plugins and added couple of lines to asound.conf14:08
sb1980in other news my package manager gui does not work...anyone has an idea for that too?14:10
bioterror!details | sb198014:10
ubottusb1980: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:10
sb1980i dont have any error messages: whenever the package manager pops up to tell me there are updates available i click on "OK install" and nothing happens ... after a wail it freezes and i then use apt from the command line to update14:13
bioterrorand this is 12.04?14:14
sb1980bioterror: yes14:17
sb1980i have the feeling that the whole system seems to be some kind of damaged - though i did no modifications. skype, audio and package manager14:17
sb1980all not working14:18
bioterrorI would run this update tool from terminal14:18
bioterrorto see messages14:18
sb1980whats the cmd for the update center? i looks different then the synaptic manager itself14:20
redderhsupdate manager or software center?14:30
redderhstry update-manager14:31
sb1980it seems like it's hanging when updating triggers for gnome menus14:39
sb1980i now reinstalled pulseaudio which results in flash player crashing everytime14:53
tty007hi lubuntu 12.04 powerpc crashed with an instruction dump anyone know what this means?16:22
mario_Hello. How do I identify my Motherboard? I want to know all specs, but I cant do it because I do not have a manual and can`t search on internet because I do not know the model. Is there a command i can input in the Terminal?16:28
bioterrormario_, sudo apt-get install lshw16:29
bioterrormario_, sudo lshw |less16:29
bioterroror more16:29
CliperexHello all. i need some feedback about an issue. i have tried Lubuntu 12.10 B2 from a cd (try before install)  on my HP nc6220 laptop, after like 10 minutes or so , i got an error that XML parsing didnt work , somthing was not found , the mouse was working but i could not see the desktop or taskbar , only the install lubuntu icon was visable. was this error hardware related or somthing that18:18
Cliperexis known to be on try before install mode ? thanks for any comment.18:18
bioterrorhow about a real installation?18:20
Cliperexi have an os on the hard drive. it will take some time to back it up so want to try before removing that os or dual boot. , also , one could argue that if it doesnt work on try mode what would promise that it will work in real install ?18:22
Cliperexis it a good idea to post this issue on a forum somewhere or just leave it at that18:24
bioterrorubuntu+118:24
bioterrorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=41618:25
varikonniemihello19:00
varikonniemiwill lubuntu run on a celeron 1.3ghz with 256 ram19:01
Cliperexbbl19:03
kanliotdid you back up your datat varikonniemi19:03
kanliotdata19:03
kanliotit runs ok on 25619:04
kanliotalthough chromium eats all your memory19:04
varikonniemino i did not backup19:17
varikonniemiit is an old computer, a friend was throwing it away ie gave it to me.19:17
varikonniemii am installing ubuntu atm, but think unity is too much for it19:18
varikonniemiso i must install lubunt-desktop, or is there such a package?19:18
varikonniemihttp://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-desktop19:20
varikonniemiyes19:20
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phillwrossball: !!!!19:41
phillwhi can se  me?19:44
phillwhiyas19:46
rossballhave uploaded photos but cannot print them out anymore ? am using lubuntu 12.04 - can u help ?19:47
rossballhave uploaded my photos successfully and have previously managed to print but now am not having the option the print when i open the view imager.I have all the other options.19:52
bennypr0fanehello, my laptop has a weird wireless card - it is switched off by default at startup. to fix that, I used an rfkill command in a script to run at start up  and that normally wouldn't do anything. Now I forgot where that script is. Where would you start to look?19:55
bioterrorfrom your browsers history19:56
bennypr0fanewhy the browser?19:57
bennypr0faneyou mean the file browser?19:57
bioterrorwell, you probably did not invent this script yourself, so you got hint from the world wide web19:57
bennypr0faneyes, on IRC19:59
bennypr0fanein bodhilinux channel. I used it in Lubuntu though, so I thought someone here might know where a script could be located that by default just lies around there doing nothing20:00
bennypr0fane...but can be used to make things happen at startup20:01
phillwbioterror: are you familiar with pcmanfm losing the ability to open up an image file and be able to print it?20:04
bioterrorwhat does his image properties tell about opening an image?20:05
bioterroris there gpicview?20:05
bioterroror what was the default image viewer20:05
phillwit does appear to be the default image viewer that pcmanfm linked to in 12.04 (which was working), the print option is no longer avaialable20:06
bioterrorwho stole printing :--)20:07
phillwbioterror: something stole the print option :(20:08
bioterrorgotta change image viewer then20:08
phillwstill has all the re-vectoring of images etc.... just no longer a print!20:08
bennypr0faneI think gpicview is the default viewer, and yes printing option is missing20:08
bennypr0faneit sucks20:09
bioterroryes and no, saves the environment20:09
bioterrorgreen thinking!20:09
phillwbennypr0fane: you confirm no print option?20:09
bennypr0fanein fact, there isn't any application lets you print images in a default isntall20:09
bennypr0fanephillw yes, I happen to have looked for it just yesterday20:10
phillwbioterror: for little niece to have her stuff at school, the other option is the wonderfully 'green' printers at the  suprtmarkets :)20:10
bennypr0fanebioterror haha, hence yr nick!20:10
bennypr0fane"green printers"?20:10
bennypr0fanewazzat?20:11
bioterrori managed to live without a printer at home for over 10 years20:12
phillwbennypr0fane: the companies who re-fill the cartridges, instead of land fill and making new ones.20:13
bennypr0faneit's not that hard really20:13
bennypr0fanerefilling the cartridges is called "green"20:14
bioterrorphillw, that's part of the "lightbulp scam"20:14
bennypr0faneyeah20:14
phillwbennypr0fane: bioterror... it is better than the alternative.20:14
bennypr0fanereally not much green to it IMO20:14
phillwperfect, it is not... better than current.. it is.20:14
phillw-ot, any one?20:15
bennypr0faneI used to need to print a lot more in college, but after that, necessity plummeted20:15
bennypr0fanestill have a printer though. It only works when I don't reallys need to print there and then20:16
bennypr0fanephillw: "-ot"?20:16
phillwbennypr0fane: #ubuntu-offtopic20:17
cowmixanyone know how to stop the Lubuntu desktop from starting at boot time?21:06
cowmixMy google foo fails me21:06
bioterrorexplain more21:09
cowmixinstalled ubuntu-server21:10
cowmixthen install lubuntu-desktop21:10
cowmixi don't want lubuntu to startup on the main console at boot time21:11
cowmix(I'm running it in VNC instead)21:11
home_Using Lubuntu PowerPC on a iBookG4 (late 2004). It's grat+21:12
home_*great guyz!!1! ;)21:13
holsteincowmix: you are auto logging in? or you dont want x to start? you dont want a login manager to start?21:13
bioterrorholstein, I would add text to boot parameters ;)21:13
cowmixholstein: I don't want the login manager to evens tart21:14
cowmixerrr. "start"21:14
cowmixA side ass-kiss thing: Lubuntu is the best thing ever.. I've been using Linux since 1992 and I love, love, love Lubuntu.21:15
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it should do it21:15
holsteinyou'll do the lubuntu commands instead of ubuntu.. lubuntusession bioterror ?21:16
cowmixyeah.. I tried that link and it doesn't do the job for some reason: /etc/default/grub21:18
cowmixoops.. here's the link:  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4008482/capture/no-workin.png21:18
cowmixthe lubuntu startup scripts seem to be very aggressive21:19
bioterrorholstein, startlubuntu21:21
holsteincowmix: update-grub ??21:24
cowmixholstein: Yup.. I even tried: sudo update-rc.d -f lxdm remove21:25
cowmixit's crazy21:25
holsteincowmix: what all else have you tried?.. maybe you did something agressive that has broken functionality?21:26
bioterrorif you have 12.04 or newer, you're using LightDM instead of LXDM21:26
cowmixoh.. duh21:27
cowmixlemme try that21:27
silverarrowhi21:27
silverarrowI am on a G4 iBook21:27
holsteinfellow PPC users home_ and silverarrow21:28
silverarrowhey, no snarky remarks21:29
silverarrow...i have no sound21:29
silverarrowquantal fuzz21:29
silverarrowand no bluetooth21:29
cowmixbioterror: I tried "sudo update-rc.d -f lightdm remove"21:29
cowmixno dice.. it's like the Terminator!21:30
cowmix:)21:30
holsteincowmix: what is? lightdm? if its still loading and you removed it, then you didnt remove it21:31
home_I was afk21:31
home_u said something?21:31
bioterrorboot with text21:31
home_silverarrow: ohh you too with iBook G421:32
cowmixhttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/4008482/capture/lightdm.png21:32
home_which one? I don't think it has bluetooth silverarrow21:32
cowmixbioterror: that look right?21:32
bioterrorhard to say21:33
home_putting the gnome-feet as menu icon on lxde? priceless21:33
home_lol21:33
bioterrormy connection to some how sucks21:33
bioterrorto any where21:33
silverarrowhome_: I have the last one from 2005, with 1.42GHz cpu21:33
silverarrowhome_: anyhow I think bluetooth is all warped for ppc in 12.0421:34
silverarrowslightly better hope from 12.1021:34
home_silverarrow: my late-2004 1.33ghz one   hasn't bluetooth device21:36
home_even if I have the driver installed correctly lol21:36
silverarrowit`s not a bit thing21:36
silverarrowcan be handy for some printers though21:37
holsteincowmix: i would say, if lightdm is still coming up, then you didnt remove it. i would search it in a package manager and purge it21:38
home_silverarrow: I'm more angry for the lack of multitouch driver for ADB Mouse21:39
holsteincowmix: i found "Did you try replacing "quiet splash" with "text"? Some other suggestions at the Ubuntu forums link below."21:40
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156467121:40
home_http://imagebin.org/231234http://imagebin.org/23123421:40
home_http://imagebin.org/231235http://imagebin.org/23123521:40
home_ooops21:41
home_http://imagebin.org/23123521:41
home_http://imagebin.org/23123421:41
holsteincowmix: purging lightdm might want to remove the whole lubuntu-desktop metapackage... i would try these other options first21:41
silverarrowhome_: yeah there is only one finger and doublefinger click21:46
home_silverarrow: stylish my desktop, isn't it? :P21:47
silverarrowyeah, nice21:48
silverarrowI stuck with default lxde21:49
silverarrowhome_: you have the gnome footprint there21:49
home_I see. I kept lxpanel to don't get fat21:50
home_silverarrow: that's what I said before ahahahha it's more stylish than lxde one21:50
silverarrowand I like blue too21:50
silverarrowit suited me fine21:50
home_silverarrow: I see you're seeking the tao21:51
silverarrowI have used xfce in the past, but taskbar and menu kept disappearing on me21:51
silverarrowoh, yes21:52
home_me too, lol21:52
silverarrowfunny we should be on ppc21:52
home_ihih21:52
home_anyway, you think skype would run slightly?21:53
home_I have not any hope  lol21:53
silverarrowyes21:53
silverarrowit should21:53
home_mmmh let's give a try21:53
home_oh but it exists a ppc version?? :S21:54
silverarrowflash is a problem, but so with ppc21:54
silverarrowthe only thing osx have over lubuntu and debian, is probably tenfourfox21:54
silverarrowand a working minitube21:55
silverarrowwhich hopefully gets sorted out though21:55
silverarrowapps like minitube is make or brake for ppc21:55
silverarrowlet me check for skype21:55
home_ye, I'm using midori to use h264 and WebM for youtube, and for all other stuff I use gnash which runs not too bad21:55
silverarrowmidori works with gnash21:55
home_but sometimes midori isn't fast on normal page loading21:56
home_so I combine it with operaPPC, which is fine21:56
silverarrowgnash streams fine on the higher specked G4s and G5s, arguably well on 1.42GHz21:56
home_normal browsing with opera21:56
silverarrowcome to think of it, skype is only available from their homesite21:57
home_hmmm I have a lot of jerks21:57
silverarrowmidori can crash, but there are a few fixes for it, but you need to go on their site21:58
redderhsskype changed a lot21:59
home_maybe we're pretending too much. Skype, a MS application, to run on linux, and more than all, on PPC21:59
redderhssince ms bought them. they changed all their routing of traffic21:59
silverarrowyeah, I have probably never had skype on ppc, only lubuntu on the hp computer22:00
silverarrowI haven`t used skype in over a year22:00
* home_ takes a good white tea22:01
silverarrowminitube is all smooth  and fine on ppc, when it workws22:02
silverarrowat the moment it doesn`t at all22:02
silverarrowwe lost flash video replacer22:02
silverarrowa couple of months ago22:02
silverarrowit was all fine for ppc, gnome mplayer and the ff adon22:03
home_flash video replacer? never heard of that22:03
silverarrowwhite tea, chinas best tea22:03
silverarrowfirefox addon, worked superbly22:04
home_I'm also sad for minitube not working at all. I experienced it some days ago, but thought it was my fault for the lack of something22:04
silverarrowthe maker took it out of the list for some reason22:04
silverarrowI hope they can make minitube work for quantal22:05
home_and also  (:D) , I'm VERY angry with google, because of the youtube ads. They're freaking me out22:05
bioterrorwhat's youtube ads?-)22:05
home_advertisements22:06
silverarrowI think there are addons in ff that blocks them,22:06
home_spots22:06
home_thereis a couple22:06
bioterrorhave not seen any of them with my adblock on chromium22:06
home_but don't work all good22:06
silverarrowbioterror: small commercial clips that appears before the actual video22:06
bioterrornope, have not seen them ;)22:07
bioterroron commercial tv channels, yes22:07
silverarrowchromium is good22:07
silverarrowi shall make an attempt at ubuntu quantal when I get my laptop back22:08
silverarrowchrome and flash bundle is good too22:08
bioterrorno problems with pepper flash22:08
home_bioterror: doesn't it seem too strange to you?  Google, the same owner of youtube, which makes an extension to block its own advertisement, from which gain money22:08
home_because chrome/chromium are from google :D22:08
home_lol22:08
bioterrorhome_, yes it actually sounds22:08
silverarrowyeah, I heard rumors pepper flash or api, should work on powerpc but so far not22:08
bioterrorhome_, but I do also block their analysts ;)22:09
home_bioterror: I'd not be so sure if I was you22:09
home_jst throw it to the trash22:09
home_and join good browsers :P22:09
home_*enjoy22:09
silverarrowI have major issues with scrips running in firefox 15.0.1 in quantal22:09
bioterrorI'm far from googles dream users ;)22:09
bioterrorbut most of the times, I get pages loaded quite snappy22:10
home_btw I love opera, I think it's always been the best browser22:12
home_but opera too doesn't respect user's privacy at all22:12
bioterrorit now has almost usable ad block22:12
bioterrorwish they would drop all the emails, torrent clients, irc clients and whatso ever off the browser22:13
bioterrorand keep it more simple22:13
bioterrorthe mouse gestures are killers in opera22:13
home_lol .. you just need to disable them ;)22:13
bioterrorI hate the somethingboy ad site listing + css thingie22:13
home_I don't like them this much, too22:13
home_ahahah22:13
home_btw .. I'm not managing to enable autologin22:15
home_maybe it's because of my crazy choice of "home" as username :D22:15
home_I just enable the feature from the conf file (already did somewhere else and it worked)22:15
bioterrorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11104521&postcount=222:16
home_but it doesn't work22:16
bioterrortested, should work :-)22:16
bioterrorbut I'm off to bed22:16
bioterrorgood night22:16
home_night22:16
silverarrowopera email works22:17
home_y22:17
home_silverarrow: You know what the worst thing I've experienced this time is?22:18
silverarrowno?22:18
home_pcmanfm's lack of autorun event customization22:18
silverarrownot sure what the is even?22:18
home_I had to use a veery bad workaround lol22:19
home_silverarrow: what?22:19
silverarrowwhat customization have you found?22:19
home_if you're talking about my english, don't care, just get the sense XD22:19
home_anyway22:19
home_I had to install thunar (another lightweight filemanager)22:20
home_which perfectly manages this types of things22:20
home_BUT22:20
silverarrowEnglish wasn`t my first language either22:20
home_it had some things that I didn't like , too22:20
home_SO I had to find a middle point between the two22:20
home_...22:20
silverarroware there any?22:21
home_I'm using pcmanfm as filemanager, AND thunar run in background (--daemon) to handle the events and autoruns!!! XD XD22:21
home_^^^22:21
home_It implies a little slow down because of the waste of resources22:21
silverarrowI always need some time to get used to new features22:21
home_but it works22:21
home_and this is what matters22:22
silverarrowlike lxde, it is different than kde and gnome22:22
home_y22:22
silverarrowI haven`t used ubuntu much after they launched Unity, mostly because of lubuntu22:22
home_but I like it a lot :D (maybe sometimes more than gnome, which is my first choice)22:22
home_unity sucks, you did the best choice22:22
silverarrowI used to have a laptop which ubuntu drivers could not handle graphics cart at the time22:23
silverarrowradeon something, white screen on every other boot up, so I just stayed with windows and had puppy linux running when I was in the mood for it22:24
home_puppy linux .. it's fine! XD22:24
home_I've tried a bunch of lighteight DEs22:25
kanliotwhat DE does puppy use?22:25
silverarrowI didn`t what to stay with osx on the old iBook, though some stuff is easier to find working apps for22:25
silverarrowwant to stay*22:25
home_actually I can say that lxde is the best because of the right balance between lightweightness and usability/aesthetic22:25
home_silverarrow: true story22:25
home_but apple isn't releasing updates anymore22:26
silverarrowat the time I really liked gnome mplayer setup with gecko and flash video replacer too, which is all ruined for ppc22:26
home_unless I upgrade to Leopard, but it implies the buyment of new hdd and RAM22:26
silverarrowI suppose tenfourfox and camino is the best for osx ppc22:27
home_y22:27
home_tenfourfox more than camino22:27
silverarrowand the youtube player, can`t remember what they call i22:27
silverarrowhtlm5 streams better in tenfourfox than in firefox22:28
silverarrownew hdd even?22:31
silverarrowRAM you can be lucky with22:31
silverarrowI installed 1GB extra ram on this ibook and I harldy think it is worth more than 512MB extra22:31
home_lol22:32
silverarrowafter I upgraded from 512MB to 1.5GB, the largest difference is swap doesn`t kick in anymore,22:32
home_I have indeed 512 extra (256 onboard)22:32
silverarrowit is runs smoother though22:32
silverarrowwhich is probably all you need22:32
home_but factory  hdd has 4600rpm22:32
home_and it's old22:33
home_and used22:33
home_and noisy22:33
home_even more because of the ext4 fs22:33
silverarrowyeah, 7200rmp is possible,  but unless you  have one laying about it is hardly worth it22:33
silverarrowon the other hand, an extra HD has never failed to be useful22:34
home_mmh I wanna replace the existing onboard 2.5"22:34
home_(to upgrade to leopard)22:35
silverarrowI see22:35
home_and 7200rpm  for 2.5 is quite strange22:35
home_5600 I think22:35
home_and not only this22:35
home_cache is important too22:35
silverarrowI have a 5400 rmp or something laying about, 6 months old, ATA, but all those screws and disassembling, horror22:36
home_naa it isn't all this pain :D22:36
silverarrowI haven`t thought much about HD cache really,22:36
silverarrowyou still can get new ATA hd if you do some searching22:37
home_ye but it's expensive22:37
home_too much22:38
home_unless I find some good offer on ebay22:38
silverarrowif the testers and devs manage to fix the bugs,  lubuntu is quite good for ppc22:40
home_ye I agree !!22:40
silverarrowI think they are struggling too much with major stuff like bootable iso images, kernel and xorg troubles22:41
silverarrowhope they get around to it22:41
silverarrowI have a strong feeling what goes wrong on ppc isn`t always ppc specific22:41
silverarrowit pops up on different hardware22:41
home_y22:43
home_silverarrow: how did you handle the right click behaviour?22:43
home_I used AppleKey + Clic , but It's not what I wanted22:43
silverarrowwonder how easily an ibook would accept a new hd22:43
silverarrowtwofinger click works on mine+22:44
silverarrow?22:44
silverarrowI get a menue up22:44
home_oh22:44
home_you've synaptics touch?22:44
silverarrowwell, not sure22:44
home_xinput list  shows you all22:45
home_pipe to pastebini22:45
home_t22:45
silverarrowone click enter, twofinger click is the same as right click22:45
home_ohhh I envie you22:45
home_UFFFF22:45
silverarrowhttp://imagebin.org/23123822:46
silverarrowshouldn`t we have the same mouse?22:47
home_nope, I'm sad to say it but this is what it is22:47
home_you have appletouch22:48
home_I think it is synaptics yeah22:48
home_I have ADB Mouse instead22:48
home_different iBook versions have different touch22:48
silverarrowi see22:49
silverarrowexternal mouse should worok22:50
silverarrowusb I mean22:50
home_yes of course22:50
home_but it's not the same :)22:50
silverarrowtrue22:50
home_if I were you, i'd enabled  Natural Scrolling  :322:51
silverarrowsome seem to prefer the usb connected mouse, keep it in their laptop bag22:51
silverarrowhome, how do I do that? not sure I wanna do something I can`t revers myself lol22:52
home_lol22:52
home_ubuntu has a specific applet22:52
home_I think you just need to install and enable it :)22:52
home_(supposing you've already enabled touchpad scroll .. which I kew it was done  with  2-finger, but you said 2fingers are RIGHTclick to you)22:53
home_s/kew/knew22:53
silverarrowyeah, ?22:55
silverarrowtwofinger click gives a menu?22:56
home_oh click is different than scroll (keep fingers on it)22:56
silverarrowthe click part in front of the pad has only enter function22:56
home_so, just try it .. does it scroll with two fingers?22:56
silverarrowit does22:57
home_ok22:57
silverarrownever noticed that22:57
silverarrowI hold down the click function, and shroll with one finger22:57
silverarrowworks the same22:57
home_ok22:58
silverarrowthere are no fixes for you mouse?22:58
home_so, there is a ppa, or a manual tweak (but it's fast to do)22:58
home_silverarrow: actually not22:59
home_http://maketecheasier.com/reverse-mouse-scrolling-direction-in-ubuntu/2011/09/1622:59
home_oh wait, sorry23:00
home_that doesn't work properly on 12.0423:00
home_these are the right instructions: http://andym3.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/fixing-natural-scrolling-in-ubuntu-12-04/23:01
silverarrowI`m in 12.1023:01
silverarrowI upgraded about a week ago23:02
silverarrowfinally made it install23:02
silverarrowthat is why I still have no sound23:02
silverarrowsystem seems stable, boots fine, most stuff work23:02
home_baah I hate non-lts releasee23:04
silverarrowyeah, 12.04 is good like that23:04
home_and I hate this frequent updating  typical of ubuntu23:04
silverarrowproblem with lts ppc it is hardly going to improve23:04
silverarrowwith all the broken browser plugin packages, there wasn`t that much left I cared about I could not have in 12.1023:05
silverarrowso I thought at least23:06
silverarrowbeta has issues, but they are working on them23:06
silverarrowthey have some clever guys on the team,23:06
silverarrowI think Ubuntu has agreed to keep up ppc support to some agree23:07
silverarrowor they would not have bothered, there is no official support23:07
silverarrowfor a while I thought debian was the best ppc distro23:08
silverarrowBut the issus are much the same, and I like lubutu setup23:08
silverarrow...if it worked23:08
home_lol23:08
home_I try again the autologin23:09
home_I hope the suggestion works23:09
l0p3nHello! In this guide https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Lubuntu/RemoteDesktop it says I can enable vine on boot from Desktop Session Settings. The problem is I cant find Desktop session settings. Where is it?23:16
l0p3nI tried application find but it doesn't seem to exist on my computer.23:17
l0p3n*finder23:17
silverarrowmenu-preferances23:21
silverarrowpreferences23:21
silverarrowsorry23:21
silverarrowI am in 12.10 though, but should be there23:21
l0p3nI found Session and startup not sure if it is the same..23:29
silverarrowI haven`t used vine in ages23:39
silverarrowbioterror is a wizz23:39
silverarrowbut the nick is a classical freudian slip, so be warned23:39

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