[00:06] <Pedrolito> is it possible to upgrade to the beta right now?
[00:07] <silverarrow> should be
[00:07] <silverarrow> you have to do a sudo release update command
[00:08] <silverarrow> Pedrolito: I have to look it up, I can never remember them correctly
[00:08] <penguin42> yeh it should, just see the instructions on the beta release notes page if you're coming from a precise install
[00:08] <silverarrow> some have had problems
[00:08] <silverarrow> however, the install CD/DVD have a update function too
[00:09] <silverarrow> or upgrade might be correct term
[00:09] <cowsquad> penguin42, I am back, and I am just an idiot. I went back to check the memory sticks and they are 2 and 1 gb
[00:09] <Pedrolito> ok, I will look that up
[00:09] <Pedrolito> thank you
[00:09] <penguin42> cowsquad: Hehe - dmidecode rarely lies :-)
[00:09] <cowsquad> so my system is correct, I am just an idiot
[00:10] <penguin42> cowsquad: Hey we all do it from time to time
[00:10] <cowsquad> But I think my system can handle 4 gb max right?
[00:11] <silverarrow> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[00:11] <silverarrow> that`s the one I think
[00:11] <penguin42> cowsquad: Not sure
[00:11] <penguin42> cowsquad: I suspect your A300 is a bit newer than my A100; crucial.com's site said mine could take 4GB, but it only recognised 3, and I read the manuals for the chipset and it couldn't cope with 3
[00:12] <penguin42> with 4
[00:12] <silverarrow> you might have to check settings to make it work, "check for new release" that kind of thing
[00:12] <penguin42> silverarrow: The one in particular (as mentioned in the release notes) is that by default a precise install will only check for new LTS releases, so you have to flip it to check for all
[00:12] <cowsquad> my specs said that the max is 4gb so I am gonna add 1 gb then
[00:13] <Pedrolito> silverarrow, update-manager -d
[00:13] <silverarrow> hmm
[00:14] <silverarrow> cowsquad: if you run i386, you most likely cannot make any use of much more than 3GB anyhow, with 64bit it is debatable
[00:14] <jtaylor> debatable?
[00:14] <penguin42> silverarrow: the ubuntu kernel has PAE enabled so it can use more than 3GB even on 386 as long as the chipset supports it
[00:15] <silverarrow> yeah, it depends on cpu then, and specs
[00:15] <penguin42> silverarrow: And on 64bit it can use as much as you like
[00:15] <silverarrow> well, yeah, core2duo hasn`t used much more than 4GB here
[00:15] <Pedrolito> darn it, the dist upgrade needs 5GB of free space
[00:15] <cowsquad> my laptop it has capacity for 32 and 64 bit. so i guess i can upgrade
[00:15] <silverarrow> hardly more than 2or 3 really
[00:16] <silverarrow> penguin42: I`m not sure why that is really
[00:16] <penguin42> cowsquad/silverarrow: It can depend on the chipset as well as cpu, for example the 945GM variant I have can only do 3GB even with a CPU that can do more
[00:17] <silverarrow> see, that is the debatable part
[00:18] <cowsquad> penguin42, How do I know whta chipset do i have?
[00:18] <silverarrow> they say minimum 3 or 4 GB RAM for 64bit I think
[00:18] <penguin42> cowsquad: lspci
[00:18] <penguin42> cowsquad: But generally it's ok to trust say the docs that are on the vendors website, or somewhere like crucial
[00:19] <silverarrow> is that ram chipset then ?
[00:19] <penguin42> silverarrow: motherboard chipset - one of the bridges
[00:19] <silverarrow> I see
[00:19] <penguin42> (is that north or south I can never remember)
[00:20] <cowsquad> so my chipset is mobile 4
[00:20] <silverarrow> My HP came with vista 32 bit, and I was offered free windows 7 64bit in the deal
[00:21] <silverarrow> not sure there were any major benefits. but it has 6GB RAM
[00:21] <silverarrow> ..or was it 8
[00:22] <penguin42> that's all very interesting and everything, but that's vista, and this is #ubuntu+1
[00:23] <silverarrow> true, but in relation to 32 versus 64 bit
[00:23] <silverarrow> I  haven`t tired quantal on it yet
[00:24] <silverarrow> I thought it would be more hardware related than software
[00:29] <penguin42> anyone know how to eprsuade buuntu-bug (at a command line via ssh) to tell me what bug it thinks the dupe is it thinks it has found?
[00:29] <penguin42> anyone know how to persuade ubuntu-bug (at a command line via ssh) to tell me what bug it thinks the dupe is it thinks it has found? (even typed in the right order)
[00:30] <cowsquad> penguin42, one more question. How do I check what video/graphic card do I have. Since is unknown right now
[00:30] <yofel> lscpi | grep VGA will tell you that
[00:30] <Pedrolito> silverarrow, the 64bit mode is supposedly faster in itself independently from the RAM problem.  It has more registers, and other improvements
[00:30] <penguin42> cowsquad: It will be listed in the lspci output, see the line that says VGA on it
[00:30] <silverarrow> you have to fill in a suspected package, and bug launcher will auto collect info on related stuff
[00:31] <silverarrow> I don`t think it is more advanced than that
[00:31] <penguin42> silverarrow: Only if it's in the mood; in this one it claims there is a dupe (shown in my web browser) which there isn't since it can't start a web browser but doesn't tell me what it is
[00:31] <yofel> that's the bug pattern matching, no idea why that dialog doesn't tell you the matched bug :/
[00:31] <penguin42> yofel: It's not a dialog - it's a text prompt
[00:32] <silverarrow> penguin42: yeah, after launchpad login? it lists possible dupes, optional list to choose from?
[00:32] <penguin42> yofel: It's telling me to look at the bug in the web browser it's opened which is a bit stupid since it's running at a console
[00:32] <penguin42> silverarrow: No it doesn't  if it's running from the console
[00:32] <yofel> well, the GUI version would show a dialog with an OK button I believe.
[00:32] <yofel> oh
[00:32] <penguin42> yofel: Yeh
[00:32] <yofel> ok
[00:32] <yofel> that's useless indeed -.-
[00:33] <yofel> silverarrow: apport can check for dupes before you ever get on launchpad
[00:33] <silverarrow> I use the run function
[00:33] <penguin42> interestingly I ran it again and now it's decided to report it
[00:33] <yofel> that functionality is used for bugs that are reported very often so people stop reporting them
[00:34] <yofel> ...
[00:34] <silverarrow> well, apport I mean
[00:35] <silverarrow> midori chrashed and I got an auto apport bug report in quantal
[00:35] <silverarrow> i did not report it
[00:35] <silverarrow> I was testing a bankID that keeps crashing browser
[00:35] <silverarrow> does anyone have chrome?
[00:36] <silverarrow> I have midori and firefox
[00:47] <bandit-led> libreoffice and gnome-panel cant get file menu back ??
[00:47] <bandit-led> I must need to turn the computer off and go to bed
[00:48] <silverarrow> file menu?
[00:48] <silverarrow> I have libre office
[00:49] <bandit-led> are you running libreoffice1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 ?
[00:52] <silverarrow> let me check
[00:52] <bandit-led> figured it out i beleive
[00:52] <silverarrow> Version 3.6.1.2 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:2))
[00:52] <bandit-led> you using unity?
[00:53] <silverarrow> no,  right now in lubuntu, lxde
[00:53] <bandit-led> you have the file edit menus?
[00:53] <kendfinger> I am having problems with Ubuntu Software Center Recommendations in Quantal.
[00:53] <kendfinger> It keeps asking me to login even though I have multiple times
[00:53] <silverarrow> bandit-led: where is that?
[00:54] <kendfinger> And no, it is not because my login info is wrong. :) I know it is
[00:54] <kendfinger> right
[00:54] <silverarrow> you mean the regular menu bar? yes I have file, edit, view, insert...
[00:54] <bandit-led> when you open writer you should have a file edit view menu right under the windowsbar
[00:55] <bandit-led> thanks silverarrow looks like i screwed somthing up again
[00:55] <silverarrow> let me take a screen shot
[00:56] <bandit-led> ok i will brbr
[00:56] <silverarrow> http://imagebin.org/231151
[00:58] <kendfinger> When will Ubuntu Web Apps be pushed into Ubuntu
[00:58] <silverarrow> not sure
[00:58] <kendfinger> I can't wait till it is ready!
[00:59] <kendfinger> I am an old developer for Ubuntu
[01:00] <kendfinger> I lost some of my team when I became inactive
[01:00] <silverarrow> cool
[01:00] <kendfinger> I started a group called the Ubuntu Geek Squad
[01:00] <silverarrow> I am not that advanced really
[01:00] <kendfinger> silverarrow: Well at least you are active lol
[01:01] <silverarrow> yeah, it accelerated quite a bit, when they asked for people with ppc hardware
[01:01] <silverarrow> and I still have the last iBook
[01:02] <kendfinger> lol
[01:03] <silverarrow> I still use it, it is silent, and nice to write on
[01:03] <kendfinger> https://launchpad.net/~kendfinger
[01:04] <silverarrow> oh, you have managed to sign the code of conduct
[01:04] <silverarrow> mines says "no"
[01:04] <silverarrow> I registered for launchpad ages ago, first time I used ubuntu
[01:04] <silverarrow> I was urged to join a bug at the time
[01:05] <silverarrow> or posting info on a bug
[01:06] <silverarrow> 13 year old?
[01:06] <silverarrow> and way ahead of me
[01:06] <kendfinger> lol
[01:06] <kendfinger> I love Launchpad!
[01:06] <silverarrow> well, if you like problems
[01:06] <kendfinger> I have been using Ubuntu since I was like 10
[01:07] <silverarrow> the earlier the better
[01:07] <kendfinger> yup
[01:08] <silverarrow> how did you get into computers that early? is your parents into software developing ?
[01:08] <kendfinger> My dad is a Web Designer
[01:09] <silverarrow> you probably have picked it up from him
[01:10] <silverarrow> I`m the only one around here using linux really, hardly anyone I know bother
[01:10] <kendfinger> yep. But I actually just one day decided that I was going to be a developer.
[01:10] <silverarrow> I am in an apple bobble these days,
[01:10] <kendfinger> lol
[01:10] <kendfinger> great analogy
[01:10] <silverarrow> everybody gets macbook pros and iphones
[01:11] <kendfinger> And I get Ubuntu Laptops and Androids
[01:11] <kendfinger> lol
[01:11] <kendfinger> :)
[01:11] <silverarrow> which is what I do too
[01:11] <silverarrow> I am looking for a ultrabook, Samsung 9 series is tempting
[01:12] <kendfinger> I agree
[01:12] <bandit-led> silverarrow, you using ppc?
[01:12] <kendfinger> yeah
[01:12] <silverarrow> yes,
[01:12] <bandit-led> ok thanks for the screenshot thats what its supposed to look like
[01:12] <silverarrow> I am on an old iBook G4, the last one from 2005
[01:12] <kendfinger> I might as well get my Coding gloves on lol
[01:12] <silverarrow> I am trying to test for quantal
[01:13] <bandit-led> i used to have a ppc running ubuntu
[01:14] <silverarrow> I am impressed kendfinger, if this is your interest, you will reach far
[01:14] <kendfinger> silverarrow: Thanks
[01:14] <silverarrow> yeah, the higher speced G4s and G5 will still run Ubuntu fine, Unity and all
[01:16] <kendfinger> Well I am off to coding
[01:16] <silverarrow> good luck
[01:16] <kendfinger> Going to go to #ubuntu-youth
[01:16] <kendfinger> :D
[01:16] <kendfinger> silverarrow: Thanks! :)
[01:17] <silverarrow> I didn`t know ubuntu was this social
[01:17] <silverarrow> we usually get hit over the head for sidetracking
[01:19] <bandit-led> http://imagebin.org/231152 no gtk installed
[01:20] <bandit-led> and with libreoffice-gtk installed http://imagebin.org/231153
[01:20] <silverarrow> looks all fine now
[01:21] <silverarrow> gtk messes up
[01:21] <silverarrow> ?
[01:21] <bandit-led> gtk does not have the menu bar
[01:22] <bandit-led> i hate fileing bug reports
[01:23] <silverarrow> run apport is nice
[01:23] <silverarrow> if you have the correct name
[01:23] <silverarrow> though, we need those reports
[01:23] <silverarrow> libre is one of the big ones
[01:23] <silverarrow> it is probably the same in open office
[01:24] <bandit-led> i will post it on launchpad
[01:24] <bandit-led> yep i found it. didnt show up under open bugs though oh well
[01:25] <silverarrow> run ubuntu-bug libreoffice-3.6.1.2
[01:25] <silverarrow> perpahs
[01:25] <silverarrow> oh, you have 3.6.2.2
[01:26] <bandit-led> i fond it they posted it about 4 hours ago
[01:26] <bandit-led> found'
[01:28] <trism> might be bug 1062757
[01:29] <silverarrow> fun with the young people
[01:29] <silverarrow> Ken wanting to do the same stuff as his dad
[01:30] <bandit-led> trism, thats the one and several other looks like a regression that was supposed to be fixed
[01:30] <bandit-led> i searched the open bugs for libreoffice i dont know why it didnt show up for me but when i tried to add a new bug report then it listed 8 other bugs
[01:31] <trism> yeah there have been quite a few bugs mentioned where the workaround was: remove libreoffice-gtk
[01:31] <bandit-led> i can live the with the ugly menus but not without office
[01:32] <silverarrow> I need full office too
[01:32] <silverarrow> I have not yet tried to print in quantal
[01:32] <bandit-led> although the quickstarter i will miss for a couple of days
[01:33] <bandit-led> i print fine with 12.10 and the notification icon is better than 12.04
[01:34] <silverarrow> sounds good
[01:34] <bandit-led> now to track down the system-monitor bug
[01:35] <silverarrow> bugs galore
[01:40] <bandit-led> just cant add the indicator for system-monitor to the panel like i used to be able to
[01:42] <silverarrow> how do I get password and encryption key?
[01:42] <silverarrow> for signing ubuntu code of conduct, rather tricky
[01:43] <silverarrow> it has changed since 10.10 apparently, the way you go about it I mean
[01:44] <trism> silverarrow: seahorse ?
[01:44] <silverarrow> what?
[01:46] <silverarrow> http://imagebin.org/231155
[01:46] <silverarrow> there
[01:46] <trism> yes, seahorse
[01:47] <silverarrow> ??!!
[01:48] <silverarrow> I don`t have anything called seahorse
[01:48]  * silverarrow types "seahorse" in terminal
[01:48] <silverarrow> currently not installed
[01:49] <trism> odd, it is a depend of ubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <trism> silverarrow: anyway, I use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key rather than the gui
[01:50] <silverarrow> oh, darn, I am installing, and I have lxde
[01:51] <trism> ahh that would do it
[01:51] <silverarrow> I regret that now
[01:52] <trism> sorry I assume everyone has ubuntu-desktop until they say otherwise
[01:52] <silverarrow> I mess up the setup here
[01:52] <trism> you could probably: sudo apt-get purge seahorse; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; to get rid of the extra libs
[01:52] <silverarrow> !"#¤%&
[01:59] <silverarrow> yeah, on the ppc I am in lubuntu
[01:59] <silverarrow> I should partition and try Ubuntu too
[02:00] <silverarrow> I have 1.5GHz cpu, it might handle unity
[02:00] <silverarrow> around 2GH powerpc CPU is all fine with Unity
[02:01] <silverarrow> I have ran Unity fine with the better Celeron CPUs, 1.5 to near 2GHz
[02:02] <silverarrow> it doesn`t have to i5 or the newest
[02:02] <silverarrow> around 1GB RAM seems to be a must though, for some systems
[02:03] <silverarrow> most computers these days are way above
[02:29] <Almindor> hello
[02:29] <Almindor> my wacom bamboo connect (CTL-470) doesn't work in 12.10
[02:29] <Almindor> I get the "registered new device" in dmesg, but it's not recognized in the settings panel
[02:29] <Almindor> I also see it in inkscape, but it's just not responding
[02:30] <Almindor> I thought 12.10 should have support for CTL-470 native
[02:32] <bjsnider> Almindor, why did you think so?
[02:33] <Almindor> bjsnider: because as far as I understand wacom X drivers in 12.10 are on the version where they added CTL-470 support
[02:34] <Almindor> bjsnider, also I see the device with xsetwacom --list
[02:37] <bjsnider> Almindor, using wireless or cable?
[02:37] <Almindor> bjsnider, cable
[02:38] <bjsnider> Almindor, xserver-xorg-input-wacom installed?
[02:39] <Almindor> bjsnider, yes
[02:40] <Almindor> that's the thing it is detected by inkscape, I see it with xsetwacom --list, it just doesn't respond to the pen (the light on the tablet does tho) and I can't "turn it on" in inkscape as an input device
[02:41] <Almindor> I can also see the event13/event14 dev files created for it
[02:41] <bjsnider> and it doesn't control the system mouse?
[02:41] <Almindor> no it doesn't
[02:42] <bjsnider> might be a good idea to submit a bug about this
[02:43] <Almindor> ok, I will
[03:03] <Almindor> reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/1063091
[06:36] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to get rid of this "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:36] <gnomefreak> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[06:37] <IdleOne> rm it
[06:38] <IdleOne> the lock file that is
[06:38] <gnomefreak> how?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> i tried sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  with no luck
[06:39] <IdleOne> sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[06:39] <IdleOne> then apt-get update update
[06:39] <IdleOne> err one update
[06:39] <gnomefreak> thanks it worked
[06:40] <IdleOne> sure thing
[08:49] <ubuntunoob> Hello
[08:52] <silverarrow> hi
[08:55] <popey> hi
[10:48] <Seiji> Hello! fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu3 from Software Center doesn't work, after reboot Catalyst Control Center brings the error with the aticonfig --initial, after I run aticonfig --initial and reboot X doesn't start, in xorg.log I have Segmentation fault at address 0x0
[10:48] <Seiji> Is the 2:9 driver supposed to work with 12.10 or I'm doing something wrong?
[10:50] <Seiji> I have switchable graphics with Intel 3000 and AMD HD 7470M
[12:04] <ratatuia> Hello! i am italian ,,excuse me fo my english .afther upgrade to 12.10  i am not able to enter on windows .traied upgrade -grub.
[12:05] <penguin42> Can you explain what you mean by 'enter on windows' ?
[12:05] <jtaylor> he probably means boot
[12:05] <jtaylor> is the issue with windows partition mounted during update-grub fixed?
[12:07] <ratatuia> Grub menu havent  the windows entry -update -grub not fixed
[12:11] <jtaylor> ratatuia: is the windows partition mounted?
[12:12] <ratatuia> yes
[12:12] <jtaylor> ratatuia: umount it and run update-grub again
[12:13] <ratatuia>  I try it tnx!
[12:14] <penguin42> jtaylor: We had a couple of separate people here yesterday with a problem where they used to be on Unity-2d and post-upgrade it wouldn't let them login and lightdm wouldn't let them chose unity; do you know if there is a bug for it?
[12:15] <jtaylor> no I don't monitor gui related bugs
[12:15] <jtaylor> though I should, my unity is unusable slow since 3 days
[12:16] <penguin42> jtaylor: I might report one anyway even though I haven't had it happen to me
[12:16] <penguin42> jtaylor: Is it using llvm-pipe?
[12:16] <jtaylor> it shouldn't
[12:16] <jtaylor> how do I check if it does?
[12:16] <penguin42> ah well, that isn't what I asked :-)
[12:16] <penguin42> hang on, let me boot my unity vm
[12:17] <jtaylor> pgrep llvm or pgrep pipe show nothing
[12:17] <ratatuia> Trovato Windows 7 (loader) su /dev/sda1 Tanke you!
[12:17] <jtaylor> I am using open source nvidia drivers
[12:17] <jtaylor> ratatuia: glad it worked
[12:17] <jtaylor> that really should get fixed
[12:17]  * jtaylor looks for bug
[12:18] <penguin42> jtaylor: If you go to system settings-details-overview what does it say on 'Graphics'
[12:18] <jtaylor> driver unknown
[12:18] <jtaylor> thats not good
[12:19] <penguin42> jtaylor: Hmm in my (unaccelerated) vm it shows Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)
[12:20] <penguin42> ah looks like the one I'm talking about is bug 1059137
[12:24] <jtaylor> hmm seems like I have to install the prop. drivers  for now
[12:44] <silverarrow> how do you go about bluetooth?
[12:44] <silverarrow> I am trying to make it work with my phone
[12:45]  * penguin42 never gets anywhere when he tries bluetooth
[12:45] <silverarrow> you are not the only one
[13:05] <hipitihop> slightly off topic as it is related to < 12.04.1 but no joy on #udev or #ubuntu so far. Can someone help me ignore a device with udev
[14:11] <bekks> hipitihop: why do you want to ignore an usb device, specifically?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hey all
[15:05] <victor__> hi... what's the CLI command to update 12.04 to the latest beta? i thought it was "update-manager -d" that didnt do the trick
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> victor__: try "do-release-upgrade -d"
[15:06] <bazhang> victor__, tried that with alt f2?
[15:06] <victor__> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[15:06] <victor__> No new release found
[15:06] <victor__> ?
[15:07] <victor__> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:07] <victor__> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[15:07] <victor__> Release:	12.04
[15:07] <victor__> Codename:	precise
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> victor__: open muon
[15:07] <bazhang> victor__, make sure the package manager is not set to "look for LTS only"
[15:07] <victor__> should be an update i guess?
[15:07] <bazhang> phoenix_firebrd, thats kubuntu
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> victor__: then synaptic
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> victor__: in the software sources
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> victor__: see if you have selected the option to notify normal releases instead of lts  releases
[15:09] <victor__> indeed that did the trick :)
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> victor__: nice
[15:09] <victor__> off we are
[15:10] <victor__> bbl
[15:15] <penguin42> hggdh: I wonder if your laptop problem was a dmraid, the logs show activate-dmraid: Serial ATA RAID disk(s) detected. If this was bad, boot with 'nodmraid'.
[16:45] <hggdh> penguin42: I also wondered about that, and disabled raid in the BIOS. Still, the sda was not found by the installer
[16:47] <penguin42> hggdh: It would have probably been worth keeping a copy of the 1st block of the drive
[16:47] <hggdh> penguin42: yeah. I tried to dd it off, but somehow I messed up, and lost the file :-(
[16:48] <penguin42> that's life
[16:48] <penguin42> and anyway there is important and there is getting your misses laptop working :-)
[16:48] <hggdh> so I intend to call Dell, and ask for a recovery CD
[16:48] <hggdh> heh. She was quite unhappy with that :-)
[16:58] <Pedrolito> I don't see the gsettings trees in dconf-editor, but I can edit the values from the command line utility 'gsettings'.  Is that normal?  I've seen on askubuntu several posts with screenshots showing the com and org trees in dconf-editor.  I upgraded from 12.04 if that matters
[17:00] <trism> Pedrolito: any errors when you run dconf-editor from the command line?
[17:00] <Pedrolito> let me check
[17:02] <Pedrolito> huh, wth, all of a sudden the com and org trees are showing in dconf-editor
[17:02] <trism> strange
[17:02] <Pedrolito> starting it from the command line could have done that?
[17:03] <trism> don't see why it would make a difference
[17:03] <Pedrolito> me neither, that's very weird
[17:04] <Pedrolito> well, good for me I guess
[17:05] <Pedrolito> thanks btw
[17:22] <dupondje> Nobody happens to have a Galaxy S3 ?
[17:22] <bekks> dupondje: Why...?
[17:24] <dupondje> can't get it connected to my computer, wont mount
[17:24] <bekks> And how do you try that, exactly...?
[17:26] <dupondje> It shown in Nautilus, but unable to connect
[17:54] <kendfinger> So what were the changes in apt I received today?
[17:54] <kendfinger> aptdaemon
[17:54] <kendfinger> !kendfinger aptdaemon
[17:56] <kendfinger> Ok so I am having problems with the Software Center on the latest Quantal release. When I try to login for the Recommendations it just fails to do anything.
[17:57] <kendfinger> Is this a known issue?
[18:05] <silverarrow> I can check
[18:06]  * silverarrow looks for recommendations 
[18:06] <kendfinger> ok
[18:06] <kendfinger> lol
[18:07] <silverarrow> on my screen it looks like this http://imagebin.org/231217
[18:08] <kendfinger> silverarrow: you have Lubuntu. Lubuntu has it's own Software Center
[18:08] <kendfinger> silverarrow: I have Ubunu 12.10
[18:09] <kendfinger> lol I figured something out. Check this out silverarrow.
[18:09] <kendfinger> !silverarrow botsnack
[18:09] <kendfinger> !kendfinger botsnack
[18:09] <silverarrow> what?
[18:10] <kendfinger> Umm let me see
[18:10] <kendfinger> It should say "botsnack: Yum, umm, I mean APT!"
[18:10] <kendfinger> !all
[18:10] <silverarrow> lol
[18:10] <kendfinger> !ubuntu-softwarecenter
[18:11] <kendfinger> !ubuntu-software-center
[18:11] <kendfinger> !ubuntusoftware-center
[18:11] <kendfinger> !ubuntusoftwarecenter
[18:11] <silverarrow> is ubotu turned ofF?
[18:11] <trism> kendfinger: it goes the other way, !action | some_nickname
[18:11] <kendfinger> ohh
[18:11] <kendfinger> !botsnack silverarrow
[18:11] <kyubotsu> !ping
[18:11] <kendfinger> !botsnack silverarrow
[18:11] <silverarrow> oh, lol
[18:12] <trism> kendfinger: you need the | too, also see !msgthebot
[18:12] <kendfinger> oh
[18:12] <kendfinger> whoops
[18:12] <kendfinger> trism: sorry
[18:12] <kendfinger> !botsnack | silverarrow
[18:12] <kendfinger> ahh. There we go
[18:12] <trism> kendfinger: no problemo, I miss the brain the size of a planet version
[18:12] <kendfinger> sorry for like spaming the place
[18:12] <silverarrow> ¨silly, who put that in
[18:12] <kendfinger> Umm ubottu
[18:12] <silverarrow> hardly any activity right now anyhow
[18:13] <kendfinger> ikr
[18:13] <kendfinger> I guess everyone is busy squashing bugs
[18:13] <silverarrow> perhaps
[18:13] <silverarrow> or it is just sunday
[18:13] <kendfinger> yeah that too
[18:13] <kyubotsu> thats a lame excuse, refrain from it
[18:13] <kendfinger> lol
[18:13] <silverarrow> it stopped raining here
[18:13] <kendfinger> here too
[18:13] <kendfinger> It rained like crazy in SC
[18:14] <silverarrow> perhaps I will go out test my bike
[18:14] <kendfinger> :)
[18:14] <silverarrow> I had a flat tire yesterday, and my brakehandle came off the hinge
[18:14] <silverarrow> you know the bolt that keeps it in place
[18:14] <kendfinger> oh yikes
[18:14] <kyubotsu> !ot
[18:15] <silverarrow> on saturday evening, so I repaired with a wire, and have to do a real repair tomorrow
[18:15] <kendfinger> But I tried to get support and guess what, only one who said anything was silverarrow
[18:15] <kendfinger> So yeah bot is wrong
[18:15] <silverarrow> kyubotsu: launch your software center right now
[18:16] <kendfinger> lol
[18:16] <kyubotsu> chat. in. #ubuntu-offtopic. simple
[18:16] <kendfinger> ok
[18:16] <kendfinger> But can somebody handle my bug?
[18:16] <silverarrow> well, I am hoping to bumped in to someone who uses blueman
[18:16] <kendfinger> lol
[18:17] <silverarrow> I cannot make bluetooth work at all
[18:17] <Zta> Where do I find a list of open bugs in the beta only?
[18:18] <Zta> I'd like to know if it's a know bug that the Launcher cannot autohide ... or if I'm doing something weird wrong.
[18:18] <kendfinger> !launchpad | Zta
[18:18] <kendfinger> ...
[18:18] <Zta> kendfinger: This url does not point to beta-specific bugs.
[18:18] <kendfinger> Zta: one sec please
[18:20] <kyubotsu> technically, bugs for 12.10 are in launchpad, takes couple clicks to find after you're in
[18:20] <kendfinger> Zta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+bugs
[18:20] <kendfinger> Yeah kyubotsu I was nice enough to give Zta the link
[18:20] <kyubotsu> indeed
[18:21] <Zta> I wasn't sure if it was https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/quantal-updates or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+bugs or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.10
[18:21] <kendfinger> I get the ubottu syntax now. Like shell commands !"action | output-command"
[18:22] <kendfinger> Zta: it's ok. That's what I am here for
[18:22] <Zta> kendfinger: thanks
[18:23] <kendfinger> Zta: No Problem
[18:23] <kendfinger> Btw, I am 13 years old, so yeah #ubuntu-youth
[18:29] <kendfinger> Well guys gotta go
[18:40] <bakbaku> hi guys, I'm getting hash mismatches when running 'apt-get update' (just installed 12.10 beta 2)
[18:40] <bakbaku> for example: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:40] <bakbaku> any idea why?
[18:42] <bakbaku> any one else seeing that?
[18:43] <penguin42> bakbaku: I think it can happen if your mirror is in the process of doing an update as you do it - although it surprises me; it might be worth doing a ram check
[18:52] <dupondje> quite annoying i'm unable to open my files on my Samsung S3 with ubuntu :'(
[18:58] <penguin42> dupondje: Looking in your other chat, is it just a missing udev rule - all the other stuff is there?
[18:59] <dupondje> penguin42: need to manually configure udev rules?
[19:00] <dupondje> I see the device in Nautilus, but unable to open it
[19:00] <penguin42> dupondje: Well I know nothing about this, but if it is just a udev rule then you should be able to tweek it
[19:01] <dupondje> guess its more gvfs-photo2 not supporting th S3
[19:01] <dupondje> gvfs-gphoto2 :)
[19:01] <penguin42> dupondje: Don't know - if it's mtp you'd think there would be some generic 'hey I can do mtp' type of thing?
[19:05] <penguin42> dupondje: Ah looking through the contents of that bug rather than the title it looks like not just a udev rule
[21:55] <Zta> What is the relationship between Gnome, Unity, and Compiz?  And why isn't there just one point of configuration instead of System Settings AND CompizConfig Settings Manager?  This is really annoying, especially since many of the configuration settings overlap.
[21:57] <Amaranth> Zta: Unless Ubuntu is patching gnome tools (most likely though) they only change mutter/gnome-shell settings
[21:57] <Zta> I installed b2 in order to help with some installation translation work and perhaps a few bugs here and there, but I've spent two days trying to restore my usual desktop and window behaviour and shortcuts, but everything keeps crashing and blows my work back to defaults.
[21:57] <Amaranth> While compiz and unity are a completely different thing
[21:58] <Amaranth> Although at one point compiz also had the ability to use gnome's settings which makes things even more confusing
[21:59] <Zta> But I'm a user.  I just want to computer "Close Window" once.  I don't care whether it's the responsibility of Compiz, Unity or something third.  It's confusing how it is right now.
[22:19] <spaceneedle> I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10--thru 12.04--but could not boot up from the 3.5 kernel. Had to use the 3.2 kernel. I'm using a dell latitude d610. Still won't  boot from a usb stick.
[22:19] <Zta> okay, this was fun.   Now how do I downgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 again?
[22:22] <jtaylor> reinstall
[22:22] <jtaylor> downgrading is not supported
[22:23] <Zta> How is it any different that upgrading?
[22:23] <jtaylor> its very different
[22:23] <Zta> out with one package set, in with another
[22:23] <jtaylor> it works for simple cases but not for the whole distribution
[22:24] <Zta> okay
[22:24] <jtaylor> if you want downgrading use snapshots
[22:24] <jtaylor> via btrfs, zfs or lvm
[22:24] <jtaylor> for zfs there are some neat apt plugins
[22:25] <Zta> I just want a working machine again =)  Reinstall seems to be the only sane and safe option.
[22:26] <Zta> For some reason all my keyboard short cut get reset a while after I've configured them.  It's getting annoying.