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Pedrolitois it possible to upgrade to the beta right now?00:06
silverarrowshould be00:07
silverarrowyou have to do a sudo release update command00:07
silverarrowPedrolito: I have to look it up, I can never remember them correctly00:08
penguin42yeh it should, just see the instructions on the beta release notes page if you're coming from a precise install00:08
silverarrowsome have had problems00:08
silverarrowhowever, the install CD/DVD have a update function too00:08
silverarrowor upgrade might be correct term00:09
cowsquadpenguin42, I am back, and I am just an idiot. I went back to check the memory sticks and they are 2 and 1 gb00:09
Pedrolitook, I will look that up00:09
Pedrolitothank you00:09
penguin42cowsquad: Hehe - dmidecode rarely lies :-)00:09
cowsquadso my system is correct, I am just an idiot00:09
penguin42cowsquad: Hey we all do it from time to time00:10
cowsquadBut I think my system can handle 4 gb max right?00:10
silverarrowsudo do-release-upgrade -d00:11
silverarrowthat`s the one I think00:11
penguin42cowsquad: Not sure00:11
penguin42cowsquad: I suspect your A300 is a bit newer than my A100; crucial.com's site said mine could take 4GB, but it only recognised 3, and I read the manuals for the chipset and it couldn't cope with 300:11
penguin42with 400:12
silverarrowyou might have to check settings to make it work, "check for new release" that kind of thing00:12
penguin42silverarrow: The one in particular (as mentioned in the release notes) is that by default a precise install will only check for new LTS releases, so you have to flip it to check for all00:12
cowsquadmy specs said that the max is 4gb so I am gonna add 1 gb then00:12
Pedrolitosilverarrow, update-manager -d00:13
silverarrowhmm00:13
silverarrowcowsquad: if you run i386, you most likely cannot make any use of much more than 3GB anyhow, with 64bit it is debatable00:14
jtaylordebatable?00:14
penguin42silverarrow: the ubuntu kernel has PAE enabled so it can use more than 3GB even on 386 as long as the chipset supports it00:14
silverarrowyeah, it depends on cpu then, and specs00:15
penguin42silverarrow: And on 64bit it can use as much as you like00:15
silverarrowwell, yeah, core2duo hasn`t used much more than 4GB here00:15
Pedrolitodarn it, the dist upgrade needs 5GB of free space00:15
cowsquadmy laptop it has capacity for 32 and 64 bit. so i guess i can upgrade00:15
silverarrowhardly more than 2or 3 really00:15
silverarrowpenguin42: I`m not sure why that is really00:16
penguin42cowsquad/silverarrow: It can depend on the chipset as well as cpu, for example the 945GM variant I have can only do 3GB even with a CPU that can do more00:16
silverarrowsee, that is the debatable part00:17
cowsquadpenguin42, How do I know whta chipset do i have?00:18
silverarrowthey say minimum 3 or 4 GB RAM for 64bit I think00:18
penguin42cowsquad: lspci00:18
penguin42cowsquad: But generally it's ok to trust say the docs that are on the vendors website, or somewhere like crucial00:18
silverarrowis that ram chipset then ?00:19
penguin42silverarrow: motherboard chipset - one of the bridges00:19
silverarrowI see00:19
penguin42(is that north or south I can never remember)00:19
cowsquadso my chipset is mobile 400:20
silverarrowMy HP came with vista 32 bit, and I was offered free windows 7 64bit in the deal00:20
silverarrownot sure there were any major benefits. but it has 6GB RAM00:21
silverarrow..or was it 800:21
penguin42that's all very interesting and everything, but that's vista, and this is #ubuntu+100:22
silverarrowtrue, but in relation to 32 versus 64 bit00:23
silverarrowI  haven`t tired quantal on it yet00:23
silverarrowI thought it would be more hardware related than software00:24
penguin42anyone know how to eprsuade buuntu-bug (at a command line via ssh) to tell me what bug it thinks the dupe is it thinks it has found?00:29
penguin42anyone know how to persuade ubuntu-bug (at a command line via ssh) to tell me what bug it thinks the dupe is it thinks it has found? (even typed in the right order)00:29
cowsquadpenguin42, one more question. How do I check what video/graphic card do I have. Since is unknown right now00:30
yofellscpi | grep VGA will tell you that00:30
Pedrolitosilverarrow, the 64bit mode is supposedly faster in itself independently from the RAM problem.  It has more registers, and other improvements00:30
penguin42cowsquad: It will be listed in the lspci output, see the line that says VGA on it00:30
silverarrowyou have to fill in a suspected package, and bug launcher will auto collect info on related stuff00:30
silverarrowI don`t think it is more advanced than that00:31
penguin42silverarrow: Only if it's in the mood; in this one it claims there is a dupe (shown in my web browser) which there isn't since it can't start a web browser but doesn't tell me what it is00:31
yofelthat's the bug pattern matching, no idea why that dialog doesn't tell you the matched bug :/00:31
penguin42yofel: It's not a dialog - it's a text prompt00:31
silverarrowpenguin42: yeah, after launchpad login? it lists possible dupes, optional list to choose from?00:32
penguin42yofel: It's telling me to look at the bug in the web browser it's opened which is a bit stupid since it's running at a console00:32
penguin42silverarrow: No it doesn't  if it's running from the console00:32
yofelwell, the GUI version would show a dialog with an OK button I believe.00:32
yofeloh00:32
penguin42yofel: Yeh00:32
yofelok00:32
yofelthat's useless indeed -.-00:32
yofelsilverarrow: apport can check for dupes before you ever get on launchpad00:33
silverarrowI use the run function00:33
penguin42interestingly I ran it again and now it's decided to report it00:33
yofelthat functionality is used for bugs that are reported very often so people stop reporting them00:33
yofel...00:34
silverarrowwell, apport I mean00:34
silverarrowmidori chrashed and I got an auto apport bug report in quantal00:35
silverarrowi did not report it00:35
silverarrowI was testing a bankID that keeps crashing browser00:35
silverarrowdoes anyone have chrome?00:35
silverarrowI have midori and firefox00:36
bandit-ledlibreoffice and gnome-panel cant get file menu back ??00:47
bandit-ledI must need to turn the computer off and go to bed00:47
silverarrowfile menu?00:48
silverarrowI have libre office00:48
bandit-ledare you running libreoffice1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 ?00:49
silverarrowlet me check00:52
bandit-ledfigured it out i beleive00:52
silverarrowVersion 3.6.1.2 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:2))00:52
bandit-ledyou using unity?00:52
silverarrowno,  right now in lubuntu, lxde00:53
bandit-ledyou have the file edit menus?00:53
kendfingerI am having problems with Ubuntu Software Center Recommendations in Quantal.00:53
kendfingerIt keeps asking me to login even though I have multiple times00:53
silverarrowbandit-led: where is that?00:53
kendfingerAnd no, it is not because my login info is wrong. :) I know it is00:54
kendfingerright00:54
silverarrowyou mean the regular menu bar? yes I have file, edit, view, insert...00:54
bandit-ledwhen you open writer you should have a file edit view menu right under the windowsbar00:54
bandit-ledthanks silverarrow looks like i screwed somthing up again00:55
silverarrowlet me take a screen shot00:55
bandit-ledok i will brbr00:56
silverarrowhttp://imagebin.org/23115100:56
kendfingerWhen will Ubuntu Web Apps be pushed into Ubuntu00:58
silverarrownot sure00:58
kendfingerI can't wait till it is ready!00:58
kendfingerI am an old developer for Ubuntu00:59
kendfingerI lost some of my team when I became inactive01:00
silverarrowcool01:00
kendfingerI started a group called the Ubuntu Geek Squad01:00
silverarrowI am not that advanced really01:00
kendfingersilverarrow: Well at least you are active lol01:00
silverarrowyeah, it accelerated quite a bit, when they asked for people with ppc hardware01:01
silverarrowand I still have the last iBook01:01
kendfingerlol01:02
silverarrowI still use it, it is silent, and nice to write on01:03
kendfingerhttps://launchpad.net/~kendfinger01:03
silverarrowoh, you have managed to sign the code of conduct01:04
silverarrowmines says "no"01:04
silverarrowI registered for launchpad ages ago, first time I used ubuntu01:04
silverarrowI was urged to join a bug at the time01:04
silverarrowor posting info on a bug01:05
silverarrow13 year old?01:06
silverarrowand way ahead of me01:06
kendfingerlol01:06
kendfingerI love Launchpad!01:06
silverarrowwell, if you like problems01:06
kendfingerI have been using Ubuntu since I was like 1001:06
silverarrowthe earlier the better01:07
kendfingeryup01:07
silverarrowhow did you get into computers that early? is your parents into software developing ?01:08
kendfingerMy dad is a Web Designer01:08
silverarrowyou probably have picked it up from him01:09
silverarrowI`m the only one around here using linux really, hardly anyone I know bother01:10
kendfingeryep. But I actually just one day decided that I was going to be a developer.01:10
silverarrowI am in an apple bobble these days,01:10
kendfingerlol01:10
kendfingergreat analogy01:10
silverarroweverybody gets macbook pros and iphones01:10
kendfingerAnd I get Ubuntu Laptops and Androids01:11
kendfingerlol01:11
kendfinger:)01:11
silverarrowwhich is what I do too01:11
silverarrowI am looking for a ultrabook, Samsung 9 series is tempting01:11
kendfingerI agree01:12
bandit-ledsilverarrow, you using ppc?01:12
kendfingeryeah01:12
silverarrowyes,01:12
bandit-ledok thanks for the screenshot thats what its supposed to look like01:12
silverarrowI am on an old iBook G4, the last one from 200501:12
kendfingerI might as well get my Coding gloves on lol01:12
silverarrowI am trying to test for quantal01:12
bandit-ledi used to have a ppc running ubuntu01:13
silverarrowI am impressed kendfinger, if this is your interest, you will reach far01:14
kendfingersilverarrow: Thanks01:14
silverarrowyeah, the higher speced G4s and G5 will still run Ubuntu fine, Unity and all01:14
kendfingerWell I am off to coding01:16
silverarrowgood luck01:16
kendfingerGoing to go to #ubuntu-youth01:16
kendfinger:D01:16
kendfingersilverarrow: Thanks! :)01:16
silverarrowI didn`t know ubuntu was this social01:17
silverarrowwe usually get hit over the head for sidetracking01:17
bandit-ledhttp://imagebin.org/231152 no gtk installed01:19
bandit-ledand with libreoffice-gtk installed http://imagebin.org/23115301:20
silverarrowlooks all fine now01:20
silverarrowgtk messes up01:21
silverarrow?01:21
bandit-ledgtk does not have the menu bar01:21
bandit-ledi hate fileing bug reports01:22
silverarrowrun apport is nice01:23
silverarrowif you have the correct name01:23
silverarrowthough, we need those reports01:23
silverarrowlibre is one of the big ones01:23
silverarrowit is probably the same in open office01:23
bandit-ledi will post it on launchpad01:24
bandit-ledyep i found it. didnt show up under open bugs though oh well01:24
silverarrowrun ubuntu-bug libreoffice-3.6.1.201:25
silverarrowperpahs01:25
silverarrowoh, you have 3.6.2.201:25
bandit-ledi fond it they posted it about 4 hours ago01:26
bandit-ledfound'01:26
trismmight be bug 106275701:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1062757 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "No menu bar under GNOME Shell & gnome-classic" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106275701:28
silverarrowfun with the young people01:29
silverarrowKen wanting to do the same stuff as his dad01:29
bandit-ledtrism, thats the one and several other looks like a regression that was supposed to be fixed01:30
bandit-ledi searched the open bugs for libreoffice i dont know why it didnt show up for me but when i tried to add a new bug report then it listed 8 other bugs01:30
trismyeah there have been quite a few bugs mentioned where the workaround was: remove libreoffice-gtk01:31
bandit-ledi can live the with the ugly menus but not without office01:31
silverarrowI need full office too01:32
silverarrowI have not yet tried to print in quantal01:32
bandit-ledalthough the quickstarter i will miss for a couple of days01:32
bandit-ledi print fine with 12.10 and the notification icon is better than 12.0401:33
silverarrowsounds good01:34
bandit-lednow to track down the system-monitor bug01:34
silverarrowbugs galore01:35
bandit-ledjust cant add the indicator for system-monitor to the panel like i used to be able to01:40
silverarrowhow do I get password and encryption key?01:42
silverarrowfor signing ubuntu code of conduct, rather tricky01:42
silverarrowit has changed since 10.10 apparently, the way you go about it I mean01:43
trismsilverarrow: seahorse ?01:44
silverarrowwhat?01:44
silverarrowhttp://imagebin.org/23115501:46
silverarrowthere01:46
trismyes, seahorse01:46
silverarrow??!!01:47
silverarrowI don`t have anything called seahorse01:48
* silverarrow types "seahorse" in terminal01:48
silverarrowcurrently not installed01:48
trismodd, it is a depend of ubuntu-desktop01:49
trismsilverarrow: anyway, I use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key rather than the gui01:50
silverarrowoh, darn, I am installing, and I have lxde01:50
trismahh that would do it01:51
silverarrowI regret that now01:51
trismsorry I assume everyone has ubuntu-desktop until they say otherwise01:52
silverarrowI mess up the setup here01:52
trismyou could probably: sudo apt-get purge seahorse; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; to get rid of the extra libs01:52
silverarrow!"#¤%&01:52
silverarrowyeah, on the ppc I am in lubuntu01:59
silverarrowI should partition and try Ubuntu too01:59
silverarrowI have 1.5GHz cpu, it might handle unity02:00
silverarrowaround 2GH powerpc CPU is all fine with Unity02:00
silverarrowI have ran Unity fine with the better Celeron CPUs, 1.5 to near 2GHz02:01
silverarrowit doesn`t have to i5 or the newest02:02
silverarrowaround 1GB RAM seems to be a must though, for some systems02:02
silverarrowmost computers these days are way above02:03
Almindorhello02:29
Almindormy wacom bamboo connect (CTL-470) doesn't work in 12.1002:29
AlmindorI get the "registered new device" in dmesg, but it's not recognized in the settings panel02:29
AlmindorI also see it in inkscape, but it's just not responding02:29
AlmindorI thought 12.10 should have support for CTL-470 native02:30
bjsniderAlmindor, why did you think so?02:32
Almindorbjsnider: because as far as I understand wacom X drivers in 12.10 are on the version where they added CTL-470 support02:33
Almindorbjsnider, also I see the device with xsetwacom --list02:34
bjsniderAlmindor, using wireless or cable?02:37
Almindorbjsnider, cable02:37
bjsniderAlmindor, xserver-xorg-input-wacom installed?02:38
Almindorbjsnider, yes02:39
Almindorthat's the thing it is detected by inkscape, I see it with xsetwacom --list, it just doesn't respond to the pen (the light on the tablet does tho) and I can't "turn it on" in inkscape as an input device02:40
AlmindorI can also see the event13/event14 dev files created for it02:41
bjsniderand it doesn't control the system mouse?02:41
Almindorno it doesn't02:41
bjsnidermight be a good idea to submit a bug about this02:42
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Almindorok, I will02:43
Almindorreported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/106309103:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1063091 in xf86-input-wacom (Ubuntu) "Bamboo Connect (CTL-470k) not responding" [Undecided,New]03:03
gnomefreakanyone know how to get rid of this "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)06:36
gnomefreakE: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/"06:36
IdleOnerm it06:37
IdleOnethe lock file that is06:38
gnomefreakhow?06:38
gnomefreaki tried sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  with no luck06:39
IdleOnesudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/lock06:39
IdleOnethen apt-get update update06:39
IdleOneerr one update06:39
gnomefreakthanks it worked06:39
IdleOnesure thing06:40
ubuntunoobHello08:49
silverarrowhi08:52
popeyhi08:55
SeijiHello! fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu3 from Software Center doesn't work, after reboot Catalyst Control Center brings the error with the aticonfig --initial, after I run aticonfig --initial and reboot X doesn't start, in xorg.log I have Segmentation fault at address 0x010:48
SeijiIs the 2:9 driver supposed to work with 12.10 or I'm doing something wrong?10:48
SeijiI have switchable graphics with Intel 3000 and AMD HD 7470M10:50
ratatuiaHello! i am italian ,,excuse me fo my english .afther upgrade to 12.10  i am not able to enter on windows .traied upgrade -grub.12:04
penguin42Can you explain what you mean by 'enter on windows' ?12:05
jtaylorhe probably means boot12:05
jtayloris the issue with windows partition mounted during update-grub fixed?12:05
ratatuiaGrub menu havent  the windows entry -update -grub not fixed12:07
jtaylorratatuia: is the windows partition mounted?12:11
ratatuiayes12:12
jtaylorratatuia: umount it and run update-grub again12:12
ratatuia I try it tnx!12:13
penguin42jtaylor: We had a couple of separate people here yesterday with a problem where they used to be on Unity-2d and post-upgrade it wouldn't let them login and lightdm wouldn't let them chose unity; do you know if there is a bug for it?12:14
jtaylorno I don't monitor gui related bugs12:15
jtaylorthough I should, my unity is unusable slow since 3 days12:15
penguin42jtaylor: I might report one anyway even though I haven't had it happen to me12:16
penguin42jtaylor: Is it using llvm-pipe?12:16
jtaylorit shouldn't12:16
jtaylorhow do I check if it does?12:16
penguin42ah well, that isn't what I asked :-)12:16
penguin42hang on, let me boot my unity vm12:16
jtaylorpgrep llvm or pgrep pipe show nothing12:17
ratatuiaTrovato Windows 7 (loader) su /dev/sda1 Tanke you!12:17
jtaylorI am using open source nvidia drivers12:17
jtaylorratatuia: glad it worked12:17
jtaylorthat really should get fixed12:17
* jtaylor looks for bug12:17
penguin42jtaylor: If you go to system settings-details-overview what does it say on 'Graphics'12:18
jtaylordriver unknown12:18
jtaylorthats not good12:18
penguin42jtaylor: Hmm in my (unaccelerated) vm it shows Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)12:19
penguin42ah looks like the one I'm talking about is bug 105913712:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1059137 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Cannot login after un upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (ubuntu-2d)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105913712:20
jtaylorhmm seems like I have to install the prop. drivers  for now12:24
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silverarrowhow do you go about bluetooth?12:44
silverarrowI am trying to make it work with my phone12:44
* penguin42 never gets anywhere when he tries bluetooth12:45
silverarrowyou are not the only one12:45
hipitihopslightly off topic as it is related to < 12.04.1 but no joy on #udev or #ubuntu so far. Can someone help me ignore a device with udev13:05
bekkshipitihop: why do you want to ignore an usb device, specifically?14:11
BluesKajhey all14:18
victor__hi... what's the CLI command to update 12.04 to the latest beta? i thought it was "update-manager -d" that didnt do the trick15:05
phoenix_firebrdvictor__: try "do-release-upgrade -d"15:06
bazhangvictor__, tried that with alt f2?15:06
victor__Checking for a new Ubuntu release15:06
victor__No new release found15:06
victor__?15:06
victor__Distributor ID:Ubuntu15:07
victor__Description:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS15:07
victor__Release:12.0415:07
victor__Codename:precise15:07
phoenix_firebrdvictor__: open muon15:07
bazhangvictor__, make sure the package manager is not set to "look for LTS only"15:07
victor__should be an update i guess?15:07
bazhangphoenix_firebrd, thats kubuntu15:07
phoenix_firebrdvictor__: then synaptic15:07
phoenix_firebrdvictor__: in the software sources15:08
phoenix_firebrdvictor__: see if you have selected the option to notify normal releases instead of lts  releases15:09
victor__indeed that did the trick :)15:09
phoenix_firebrdvictor__: nice15:09
victor__off we are15:09
victor__bbl15:10
penguin42hggdh: I wonder if your laptop problem was a dmraid, the logs show activate-dmraid: Serial ATA RAID disk(s) detected. If this was bad, boot with 'nodmraid'.15:15
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hggdhpenguin42: I also wondered about that, and disabled raid in the BIOS. Still, the sda was not found by the installer16:45
penguin42hggdh: It would have probably been worth keeping a copy of the 1st block of the drive16:47
hggdhpenguin42: yeah. I tried to dd it off, but somehow I messed up, and lost the file :-(16:47
penguin42that's life16:48
penguin42and anyway there is important and there is getting your misses laptop working :-)16:48
hggdhso I intend to call Dell, and ask for a recovery CD16:48
hggdhheh. She was quite unhappy with that :-)16:48
PedrolitoI don't see the gsettings trees in dconf-editor, but I can edit the values from the command line utility 'gsettings'.  Is that normal?  I've seen on askubuntu several posts with screenshots showing the com and org trees in dconf-editor.  I upgraded from 12.04 if that matters16:58
trismPedrolito: any errors when you run dconf-editor from the command line?17:00
Pedrolitolet me check17:00
Pedrolitohuh, wth, all of a sudden the com and org trees are showing in dconf-editor17:02
trismstrange17:02
Pedrolitostarting it from the command line could have done that?17:02
trismdon't see why it would make a difference17:03
Pedrolitome neither, that's very weird17:03
Pedrolitowell, good for me I guess17:04
Pedrolitothanks btw17:05
dupondjeNobody happens to have a Galaxy S3 ?17:22
bekksdupondje: Why...?17:22
dupondjecan't get it connected to my computer, wont mount17:24
bekksAnd how do you try that, exactly...?17:24
dupondjeIt shown in Nautilus, but unable to connect17:26
kendfingerSo what were the changes in apt I received today?17:54
kendfingeraptdaemon17:54
kendfinger!kendfinger aptdaemon17:54
kendfingerOk so I am having problems with the Software Center on the latest Quantal release. When I try to login for the Recommendations it just fails to do anything.17:56
kendfingerIs this a known issue?17:57
silverarrowI can check18:05
* silverarrow looks for recommendations 18:06
kendfingerok18:06
kendfingerlol18:06
silverarrowon my screen it looks like this http://imagebin.org/23121718:07
kendfingersilverarrow: you have Lubuntu. Lubuntu has it's own Software Center18:08
kendfingersilverarrow: I have Ubunu 12.1018:08
kendfingerlol I figured something out. Check this out silverarrow.18:09
kendfinger!silverarrow botsnack18:09
kendfinger!kendfinger botsnack18:09
silverarrowwhat?18:09
kendfingerUmm let me see18:10
kendfingerIt should say "botsnack: Yum, umm, I mean APT!"18:10
kendfinger!all18:10
silverarrowlol18:10
kendfinger!ubuntu-softwarecenter18:10
kendfinger!ubuntu-software-center18:11
kendfinger!ubuntusoftware-center18:11
kendfinger!ubuntusoftwarecenter18:11
silverarrowis ubotu turned ofF?18:11
trismkendfinger: it goes the other way, !action | some_nickname18:11
kendfingerohh18:11
kendfinger!botsnack silverarrow18:11
kyubotsu!ping18:11
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...18:11
kendfinger!botsnack silverarrow18:11
silverarrowoh, lol18:11
trismkendfinger: you need the | too, also see !msgthebot18:12
kendfingeroh18:12
kendfingerwhoops18:12
kendfingertrism: sorry18:12
kendfinger!botsnack | silverarrow18:12
ubottusilverarrow: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!18:12
kendfingerahh. There we go18:12
trismkendfinger: no problemo, I miss the brain the size of a planet version18:12
kendfingersorry for like spaming the place18:12
silverarrow¨silly, who put that in18:12
kendfingerUmm ubottu18:12
silverarrowhardly any activity right now anyhow18:12
kendfingerikr18:13
kendfingerI guess everyone is busy squashing bugs18:13
silverarrowperhaps18:13
silverarrowor it is just sunday18:13
kendfingeryeah that too18:13
kyubotsuthats a lame excuse, refrain from it18:13
kendfingerlol18:13
silverarrowit stopped raining here18:13
kendfingerhere too18:13
kendfingerIt rained like crazy in SC18:13
silverarrowperhaps I will go out test my bike18:14
kendfinger:)18:14
silverarrowI had a flat tire yesterday, and my brakehandle came off the hinge18:14
silverarrowyou know the bolt that keeps it in place18:14
kendfingeroh yikes18:14
kyubotsu!ot18:14
ubottu#ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu.  Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support.  Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.18:14
silverarrowon saturday evening, so I repaired with a wire, and have to do a real repair tomorrow18:15
kendfingerBut I tried to get support and guess what, only one who said anything was silverarrow18:15
kendfingerSo yeah bot is wrong18:15
silverarrowkyubotsu: launch your software center right now18:15
kendfingerlol18:16
kyubotsuchat. in. #ubuntu-offtopic. simple18:16
kendfingerok18:16
kendfingerBut can somebody handle my bug?18:16
silverarrowwell, I am hoping to bumped in to someone who uses blueman18:16
kendfingerlol18:16
silverarrowI cannot make bluetooth work at all18:17
ZtaWhere do I find a list of open bugs in the beta only?18:17
ZtaI'd like to know if it's a know bug that the Launcher cannot autohide ... or if I'm doing something weird wrong.18:18
kendfinger!launchpad | Zta18:18
ubottuZta: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/18:18
kendfinger...18:18
Ztakendfinger: This url does not point to beta-specific bugs.18:18
kendfingerZta: one sec please18:18
kyubotsutechnically, bugs for 12.10 are in launchpad, takes couple clicks to find after you're in18:20
kendfingerZta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+bugs18:20
kendfingerYeah kyubotsu I was nice enough to give Zta the link18:20
kyubotsuindeed18:20
ZtaI wasn't sure if it was https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/quantal-updates or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+bugs or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.1018:21
kendfingerI get the ubottu syntax now. Like shell commands !"action | output-command"18:21
kendfingerZta: it's ok. That's what I am here for18:22
Ztakendfinger: thanks18:22
kendfingerZta: No Problem18:23
kendfingerBtw, I am 13 years old, so yeah #ubuntu-youth18:23
kendfingerWell guys gotta go18:29
bakbakuhi guys, I'm getting hash mismatches when running 'apt-get update' (just installed 12.10 beta 2)18:40
bakbakufor example: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch18:40
bakbakuany idea why?18:40
bakbakuany one else seeing that?18:42
penguin42bakbaku: I think it can happen if your mirror is in the process of doing an update as you do it - although it surprises me; it might be worth doing a ram check18:43
dupondjequite annoying i'm unable to open my files on my Samsung S3 with ubuntu :'(18:52
penguin42dupondje: Looking in your other chat, is it just a missing udev rule - all the other stuff is there?18:58
dupondjepenguin42: need to manually configure udev rules?18:59
dupondjeI see the device in Nautilus, but unable to open it19:00
penguin42dupondje: Well I know nothing about this, but if it is just a udev rule then you should be able to tweek it19:00
dupondjeguess its more gvfs-photo2 not supporting th S319:01
dupondjegvfs-gphoto2 :)19:01
penguin42dupondje: Don't know - if it's mtp you'd think there would be some generic 'hey I can do mtp' type of thing?19:01
penguin42dupondje: Ah looking through the contents of that bug rather than the title it looks like not just a udev rule19:05
ZtaWhat is the relationship between Gnome, Unity, and Compiz?  And why isn't there just one point of configuration instead of System Settings AND CompizConfig Settings Manager?  This is really annoying, especially since many of the configuration settings overlap.21:55
AmaranthZta: Unless Ubuntu is patching gnome tools (most likely though) they only change mutter/gnome-shell settings21:57
ZtaI installed b2 in order to help with some installation translation work and perhaps a few bugs here and there, but I've spent two days trying to restore my usual desktop and window behaviour and shortcuts, but everything keeps crashing and blows my work back to defaults.21:57
AmaranthWhile compiz and unity are a completely different thing21:57
AmaranthAlthough at one point compiz also had the ability to use gnome's settings which makes things even more confusing21:58
ZtaBut I'm a user.  I just want to computer "Close Window" once.  I don't care whether it's the responsibility of Compiz, Unity or something third.  It's confusing how it is right now.21:59
spaceneedleI upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10--thru 12.04--but could not boot up from the 3.5 kernel. Had to use the 3.2 kernel. I'm using a dell latitude d610. Still won't  boot from a usb stick.22:19
Ztaokay, this was fun.   Now how do I downgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 again?22:19
jtaylorreinstall22:22
jtaylordowngrading is not supported22:22
ZtaHow is it any different that upgrading?22:23
jtaylorits very different22:23
Ztaout with one package set, in with another22:23
jtaylorit works for simple cases but not for the whole distribution22:23
Ztaokay22:24
jtaylorif you want downgrading use snapshots22:24
jtaylorvia btrfs, zfs or lvm22:24
jtaylorfor zfs there are some neat apt plugins22:24
ZtaI just want a working machine again =)  Reinstall seems to be the only sane and safe option.22:25
ZtaFor some reason all my keyboard short cut get reset a while after I've configured them.  It's getting annoying.22:26

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