[00:06] is it possible to upgrade to the beta right now? [00:07] should be [00:07] you have to do a sudo release update command [00:08] Pedrolito: I have to look it up, I can never remember them correctly [00:08] yeh it should, just see the instructions on the beta release notes page if you're coming from a precise install [00:08] some have had problems [00:08] however, the install CD/DVD have a update function too [00:09] or upgrade might be correct term [00:09] penguin42, I am back, and I am just an idiot. I went back to check the memory sticks and they are 2 and 1 gb [00:09] ok, I will look that up [00:09] thank you [00:09] cowsquad: Hehe - dmidecode rarely lies :-) [00:09] so my system is correct, I am just an idiot [00:10] cowsquad: Hey we all do it from time to time [00:10] But I think my system can handle 4 gb max right? [00:11] sudo do-release-upgrade -d [00:11] that`s the one I think [00:11] cowsquad: Not sure [00:11] cowsquad: I suspect your A300 is a bit newer than my A100; crucial.com's site said mine could take 4GB, but it only recognised 3, and I read the manuals for the chipset and it couldn't cope with 3 [00:12] with 4 [00:12] you might have to check settings to make it work, "check for new release" that kind of thing [00:12] silverarrow: The one in particular (as mentioned in the release notes) is that by default a precise install will only check for new LTS releases, so you have to flip it to check for all [00:12] my specs said that the max is 4gb so I am gonna add 1 gb then [00:13] silverarrow, update-manager -d [00:13] hmm [00:14] cowsquad: if you run i386, you most likely cannot make any use of much more than 3GB anyhow, with 64bit it is debatable [00:14] debatable? [00:14] silverarrow: the ubuntu kernel has PAE enabled so it can use more than 3GB even on 386 as long as the chipset supports it [00:15] yeah, it depends on cpu then, and specs [00:15] silverarrow: And on 64bit it can use as much as you like [00:15] well, yeah, core2duo hasn`t used much more than 4GB here [00:15] darn it, the dist upgrade needs 5GB of free space [00:15] my laptop it has capacity for 32 and 64 bit. so i guess i can upgrade [00:15] hardly more than 2or 3 really [00:16] penguin42: I`m not sure why that is really [00:16] cowsquad/silverarrow: It can depend on the chipset as well as cpu, for example the 945GM variant I have can only do 3GB even with a CPU that can do more [00:17] see, that is the debatable part [00:18] penguin42, How do I know whta chipset do i have? [00:18] they say minimum 3 or 4 GB RAM for 64bit I think [00:18] cowsquad: lspci [00:18] cowsquad: But generally it's ok to trust say the docs that are on the vendors website, or somewhere like crucial [00:19] is that ram chipset then ? [00:19] silverarrow: motherboard chipset - one of the bridges [00:19] I see [00:19] (is that north or south I can never remember) [00:20] so my chipset is mobile 4 [00:20] My HP came with vista 32 bit, and I was offered free windows 7 64bit in the deal [00:21] not sure there were any major benefits. but it has 6GB RAM [00:21] ..or was it 8 [00:22] that's all very interesting and everything, but that's vista, and this is #ubuntu+1 [00:23] true, but in relation to 32 versus 64 bit [00:23] I haven`t tired quantal on it yet [00:24] I thought it would be more hardware related than software [00:29] anyone know how to eprsuade buuntu-bug (at a command line via ssh) to tell me what bug it thinks the dupe is it thinks it has found? [00:29] anyone know how to persuade ubuntu-bug (at a command line via ssh) to tell me what bug it thinks the dupe is it thinks it has found? (even typed in the right order) [00:30] penguin42, one more question. How do I check what video/graphic card do I have. Since is unknown right now [00:30] lscpi | grep VGA will tell you that [00:30] silverarrow, the 64bit mode is supposedly faster in itself independently from the RAM problem. It has more registers, and other improvements [00:30] cowsquad: It will be listed in the lspci output, see the line that says VGA on it [00:30] you have to fill in a suspected package, and bug launcher will auto collect info on related stuff [00:31] I don`t think it is more advanced than that [00:31] silverarrow: Only if it's in the mood; in this one it claims there is a dupe (shown in my web browser) which there isn't since it can't start a web browser but doesn't tell me what it is [00:31] that's the bug pattern matching, no idea why that dialog doesn't tell you the matched bug :/ [00:31] yofel: It's not a dialog - it's a text prompt [00:32] penguin42: yeah, after launchpad login? it lists possible dupes, optional list to choose from? [00:32] yofel: It's telling me to look at the bug in the web browser it's opened which is a bit stupid since it's running at a console [00:32] silverarrow: No it doesn't if it's running from the console [00:32] well, the GUI version would show a dialog with an OK button I believe. [00:32] oh [00:32] yofel: Yeh [00:32] ok [00:32] that's useless indeed -.- [00:33] silverarrow: apport can check for dupes before you ever get on launchpad [00:33] I use the run function [00:33] interestingly I ran it again and now it's decided to report it [00:33] that functionality is used for bugs that are reported very often so people stop reporting them [00:34] ... [00:34] well, apport I mean [00:35] midori chrashed and I got an auto apport bug report in quantal [00:35] i did not report it [00:35] I was testing a bankID that keeps crashing browser [00:35] does anyone have chrome? [00:36] I have midori and firefox [00:47] libreoffice and gnome-panel cant get file menu back ?? [00:47] I must need to turn the computer off and go to bed [00:48] file menu? [00:48] I have libre office [00:49] are you running libreoffice1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 ? [00:52] let me check [00:52] figured it out i beleive [00:52] Version 3.6.1.2 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:2)) [00:52] you using unity? [00:53] no, right now in lubuntu, lxde [00:53] you have the file edit menus? [00:53] I am having problems with Ubuntu Software Center Recommendations in Quantal. [00:53] It keeps asking me to login even though I have multiple times [00:53] bandit-led: where is that? [00:54] And no, it is not because my login info is wrong. :) I know it is [00:54] right [00:54] you mean the regular menu bar? yes I have file, edit, view, insert... [00:54] when you open writer you should have a file edit view menu right under the windowsbar [00:55] thanks silverarrow looks like i screwed somthing up again [00:55] let me take a screen shot [00:56] ok i will brbr [00:56] http://imagebin.org/231151 [00:58] When will Ubuntu Web Apps be pushed into Ubuntu [00:58] not sure [00:58] I can't wait till it is ready! [00:59] I am an old developer for Ubuntu [01:00] I lost some of my team when I became inactive [01:00] cool [01:00] I started a group called the Ubuntu Geek Squad [01:00] I am not that advanced really [01:00] silverarrow: Well at least you are active lol [01:01] yeah, it accelerated quite a bit, when they asked for people with ppc hardware [01:01] and I still have the last iBook [01:02] lol [01:03] I still use it, it is silent, and nice to write on [01:03] https://launchpad.net/~kendfinger [01:04] oh, you have managed to sign the code of conduct [01:04] mines says "no" [01:04] I registered for launchpad ages ago, first time I used ubuntu [01:04] I was urged to join a bug at the time [01:05] or posting info on a bug [01:06] 13 year old? [01:06] and way ahead of me [01:06] lol [01:06] I love Launchpad! [01:06] well, if you like problems [01:06] I have been using Ubuntu since I was like 10 [01:07] the earlier the better [01:07] yup [01:08] how did you get into computers that early? is your parents into software developing ? [01:08] My dad is a Web Designer [01:09] you probably have picked it up from him [01:10] I`m the only one around here using linux really, hardly anyone I know bother [01:10] yep. But I actually just one day decided that I was going to be a developer. [01:10] I am in an apple bobble these days, [01:10] lol [01:10] great analogy [01:10] everybody gets macbook pros and iphones [01:11] And I get Ubuntu Laptops and Androids [01:11] lol [01:11] :) [01:11] which is what I do too [01:11] I am looking for a ultrabook, Samsung 9 series is tempting [01:12] I agree [01:12] silverarrow, you using ppc? [01:12] yeah [01:12] yes, [01:12] ok thanks for the screenshot thats what its supposed to look like [01:12] I am on an old iBook G4, the last one from 2005 [01:12] I might as well get my Coding gloves on lol [01:12] I am trying to test for quantal [01:13] i used to have a ppc running ubuntu [01:14] I am impressed kendfinger, if this is your interest, you will reach far [01:14] silverarrow: Thanks [01:14] yeah, the higher speced G4s and G5 will still run Ubuntu fine, Unity and all [01:16] Well I am off to coding [01:16] good luck [01:16] Going to go to #ubuntu-youth [01:16] :D [01:16] silverarrow: Thanks! :) [01:17] I didn`t know ubuntu was this social [01:17] we usually get hit over the head for sidetracking [01:19] http://imagebin.org/231152 no gtk installed [01:20] and with libreoffice-gtk installed http://imagebin.org/231153 [01:20] looks all fine now [01:21] gtk messes up [01:21] ? [01:21] gtk does not have the menu bar [01:22] i hate fileing bug reports [01:23] run apport is nice [01:23] if you have the correct name [01:23] though, we need those reports [01:23] libre is one of the big ones [01:23] it is probably the same in open office [01:24] i will post it on launchpad [01:24] yep i found it. didnt show up under open bugs though oh well [01:25] run ubuntu-bug libreoffice-3.6.1.2 [01:25] perpahs [01:25] oh, you have 3.6.2.2 [01:26] i fond it they posted it about 4 hours ago [01:26] found' [01:28] might be bug 1062757 [01:28] Launchpad bug 1062757 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "No menu bar under GNOME Shell & gnome-classic" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1062757 [01:29] fun with the young people [01:29] Ken wanting to do the same stuff as his dad [01:30] trism, thats the one and several other looks like a regression that was supposed to be fixed [01:30] i searched the open bugs for libreoffice i dont know why it didnt show up for me but when i tried to add a new bug report then it listed 8 other bugs [01:31] yeah there have been quite a few bugs mentioned where the workaround was: remove libreoffice-gtk [01:31] i can live the with the ugly menus but not without office [01:32] I need full office too [01:32] I have not yet tried to print in quantal [01:32] although the quickstarter i will miss for a couple of days [01:33] i print fine with 12.10 and the notification icon is better than 12.04 [01:34] sounds good [01:34] now to track down the system-monitor bug [01:35] bugs galore [01:40] just cant add the indicator for system-monitor to the panel like i used to be able to [01:42] how do I get password and encryption key? [01:42] for signing ubuntu code of conduct, rather tricky [01:43] it has changed since 10.10 apparently, the way you go about it I mean [01:44] silverarrow: seahorse ? [01:44] what? [01:46] http://imagebin.org/231155 [01:46] there [01:46] yes, seahorse [01:47] ??!! [01:48] I don`t have anything called seahorse [01:48] * silverarrow types "seahorse" in terminal [01:48] currently not installed [01:49] odd, it is a depend of ubuntu-desktop [01:50] silverarrow: anyway, I use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key rather than the gui [01:50] oh, darn, I am installing, and I have lxde [01:51] ahh that would do it [01:51] I regret that now [01:52] sorry I assume everyone has ubuntu-desktop until they say otherwise [01:52] I mess up the setup here [01:52] you could probably: sudo apt-get purge seahorse; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; to get rid of the extra libs [01:52] !"#¤%& [01:59] yeah, on the ppc I am in lubuntu [01:59] I should partition and try Ubuntu too [02:00] I have 1.5GHz cpu, it might handle unity [02:00] around 2GH powerpc CPU is all fine with Unity [02:01] I have ran Unity fine with the better Celeron CPUs, 1.5 to near 2GHz [02:02] it doesn`t have to i5 or the newest [02:02] around 1GB RAM seems to be a must though, for some systems [02:03] most computers these days are way above [02:29] hello [02:29] my wacom bamboo connect (CTL-470) doesn't work in 12.10 [02:29] I get the "registered new device" in dmesg, but it's not recognized in the settings panel [02:29] I also see it in inkscape, but it's just not responding [02:30] I thought 12.10 should have support for CTL-470 native [02:32] Almindor, why did you think so? [02:33] bjsnider: because as far as I understand wacom X drivers in 12.10 are on the version where they added CTL-470 support [02:34] bjsnider, also I see the device with xsetwacom --list [02:37] Almindor, using wireless or cable? [02:37] bjsnider, cable [02:38] Almindor, xserver-xorg-input-wacom installed? [02:39] bjsnider, yes [02:40] that's the thing it is detected by inkscape, I see it with xsetwacom --list, it just doesn't respond to the pen (the light on the tablet does tho) and I can't "turn it on" in inkscape as an input device [02:41] I can also see the event13/event14 dev files created for it [02:41] and it doesn't control the system mouse? [02:41] no it doesn't [02:42] might be a good idea to submit a bug about this === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [02:43] ok, I will [03:03] reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/1063091 [03:03] Launchpad bug 1063091 in xf86-input-wacom (Ubuntu) "Bamboo Connect (CTL-470k) not responding" [Undecided,New] [06:36] anyone know how to get rid of this "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [06:36] E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/" [06:37] rm it [06:38] the lock file that is [06:38] how? [06:39] i tried sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a with no luck [06:39] sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/lock [06:39] then apt-get update update [06:39] err one update [06:39] thanks it worked [06:40] sure thing [08:49] Hello [08:52] hi [08:55] hi [10:48] Hello! fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu3 from Software Center doesn't work, after reboot Catalyst Control Center brings the error with the aticonfig --initial, after I run aticonfig --initial and reboot X doesn't start, in xorg.log I have Segmentation fault at address 0x0 [10:48] Is the 2:9 driver supposed to work with 12.10 or I'm doing something wrong? [10:50] I have switchable graphics with Intel 3000 and AMD HD 7470M [12:04] Hello! i am italian ,,excuse me fo my english .afther upgrade to 12.10 i am not able to enter on windows .traied upgrade -grub. [12:05] Can you explain what you mean by 'enter on windows' ? [12:05] he probably means boot [12:05] is the issue with windows partition mounted during update-grub fixed? [12:07] Grub menu havent the windows entry -update -grub not fixed [12:11] ratatuia: is the windows partition mounted? [12:12] yes [12:12] ratatuia: umount it and run update-grub again [12:13] I try it tnx! [12:14] jtaylor: We had a couple of separate people here yesterday with a problem where they used to be on Unity-2d and post-upgrade it wouldn't let them login and lightdm wouldn't let them chose unity; do you know if there is a bug for it? [12:15] no I don't monitor gui related bugs [12:15] though I should, my unity is unusable slow since 3 days [12:16] jtaylor: I might report one anyway even though I haven't had it happen to me [12:16] jtaylor: Is it using llvm-pipe? [12:16] it shouldn't [12:16] how do I check if it does? [12:16] ah well, that isn't what I asked :-) [12:16] hang on, let me boot my unity vm [12:17] pgrep llvm or pgrep pipe show nothing [12:17] Trovato Windows 7 (loader) su /dev/sda1 Tanke you! [12:17] I am using open source nvidia drivers [12:17] ratatuia: glad it worked [12:17] that really should get fixed [12:17] * jtaylor looks for bug [12:18] jtaylor: If you go to system settings-details-overview what does it say on 'Graphics' [12:18] driver unknown [12:18] thats not good [12:19] jtaylor: Hmm in my (unaccelerated) vm it shows Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301) [12:20] ah looks like the one I'm talking about is bug 1059137 [12:20] Launchpad bug 1059137 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Cannot login after un upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (ubuntu-2d)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059137 [12:24] hmm seems like I have to install the prop. drivers for now === MrChrisDruif is now known as BrokenThumb [12:44] how do you go about bluetooth? [12:44] I am trying to make it work with my phone [12:45] * penguin42 never gets anywhere when he tries bluetooth [12:45] you are not the only one [13:05] slightly off topic as it is related to < 12.04.1 but no joy on #udev or #ubuntu so far. Can someone help me ignore a device with udev [14:11] hipitihop: why do you want to ignore an usb device, specifically? [14:18] hey all [15:05] hi... what's the CLI command to update 12.04 to the latest beta? i thought it was "update-manager -d" that didnt do the trick [15:06] victor__: try "do-release-upgrade -d" [15:06] victor__, tried that with alt f2? [15:06] Checking for a new Ubuntu release [15:06] No new release found [15:06] ? [15:07] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [15:07] Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS [15:07] Release: 12.04 [15:07] Codename: precise [15:07] victor__: open muon [15:07] victor__, make sure the package manager is not set to "look for LTS only" [15:07] should be an update i guess? [15:07] phoenix_firebrd, thats kubuntu [15:07] victor__: then synaptic [15:08] victor__: in the software sources [15:09] victor__: see if you have selected the option to notify normal releases instead of lts releases [15:09] indeed that did the trick :) [15:09] victor__: nice [15:09] off we are [15:10] bbl [15:15] hggdh: I wonder if your laptop problem was a dmraid, the logs show activate-dmraid: Serial ATA RAID disk(s) detected. If this was bad, boot with 'nodmraid'. === maxb_ is now known as maxb [16:45] penguin42: I also wondered about that, and disabled raid in the BIOS. Still, the sda was not found by the installer [16:47] hggdh: It would have probably been worth keeping a copy of the 1st block of the drive [16:47] penguin42: yeah. I tried to dd it off, but somehow I messed up, and lost the file :-( [16:48] that's life [16:48] and anyway there is important and there is getting your misses laptop working :-) [16:48] so I intend to call Dell, and ask for a recovery CD [16:48] heh. She was quite unhappy with that :-) [16:58] I don't see the gsettings trees in dconf-editor, but I can edit the values from the command line utility 'gsettings'. Is that normal? I've seen on askubuntu several posts with screenshots showing the com and org trees in dconf-editor. I upgraded from 12.04 if that matters [17:00] Pedrolito: any errors when you run dconf-editor from the command line? [17:00] let me check [17:02] huh, wth, all of a sudden the com and org trees are showing in dconf-editor [17:02] strange [17:02] starting it from the command line could have done that? [17:03] don't see why it would make a difference [17:03] me neither, that's very weird [17:04] well, good for me I guess [17:05] thanks btw [17:22] Nobody happens to have a Galaxy S3 ? [17:22] dupondje: Why...? [17:24] can't get it connected to my computer, wont mount [17:24] And how do you try that, exactly...? [17:26] It shown in Nautilus, but unable to connect [17:54] So what were the changes in apt I received today? [17:54] aptdaemon [17:54] !kendfinger aptdaemon [17:56] Ok so I am having problems with the Software Center on the latest Quantal release. When I try to login for the Recommendations it just fails to do anything. [17:57] Is this a known issue? [18:05] I can check [18:06] * silverarrow looks for recommendations [18:06] ok [18:06] lol [18:07] on my screen it looks like this http://imagebin.org/231217 [18:08] silverarrow: you have Lubuntu. Lubuntu has it's own Software Center [18:08] silverarrow: I have Ubunu 12.10 [18:09] lol I figured something out. Check this out silverarrow. [18:09] !silverarrow botsnack [18:09] !kendfinger botsnack [18:09] what? [18:10] Umm let me see [18:10] It should say "botsnack: Yum, umm, I mean APT!" [18:10] !all [18:10] lol [18:10] !ubuntu-softwarecenter [18:11] !ubuntu-software-center [18:11] !ubuntusoftware-center [18:11] !ubuntusoftwarecenter [18:11] is ubotu turned ofF? [18:11] kendfinger: it goes the other way, !action | some_nickname [18:11] ohh [18:11] !botsnack silverarrow [18:11] !ping [18:11] another contentless ping... sigh... [18:11] !botsnack silverarrow [18:11] oh, lol [18:12] kendfinger: you need the | too, also see !msgthebot [18:12] oh [18:12] whoops [18:12] trism: sorry [18:12] !botsnack | silverarrow [18:12] silverarrow: Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [18:12] ahh. There we go [18:12] kendfinger: no problemo, I miss the brain the size of a planet version [18:12] sorry for like spaming the place [18:12] ¨silly, who put that in [18:12] Umm ubottu [18:12] hardly any activity right now anyhow [18:13] ikr [18:13] I guess everyone is busy squashing bugs [18:13] perhaps [18:13] or it is just sunday [18:13] yeah that too [18:13] thats a lame excuse, refrain from it [18:13] lol [18:13] it stopped raining here [18:13] here too [18:13] It rained like crazy in SC [18:14] perhaps I will go out test my bike [18:14] :) [18:14]