[00:00] <tozen> LadyLight, where is the problem?
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> rogue780, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:00] <rogue780> wilee-nilee, how do I do that?
[00:00] <LadyLight> I can't boot the iso from the usb for some weird reason
[00:00] <rogue780> it's like you're nostradaemus
[00:00] <rogue780> or however you spell it
[00:00] <silverarrow> LadyLight: you download regularly with your browser, and use some kind of USB app to put the iso on your usb
[00:01] <LadyLight> I did that, but the dell computer won't boot up with it.
[00:01] <silverarrow> LadyLight: yeah, I make a mess of the USB install too sometimes, CD and DVD can be easier
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> rogue780, A live cd is what you want probably, Im not sure how to run it from a complete cli and have a post of it.
[00:01] <tozen> LadyLight, u need unetbootin to be installed or other usb creation program
[00:01] <Garr255> holy damn I just derped. I just ran a "sudo tasksel" and deselected everything but LAMP. FTP and SSH are gone, but I have physical access to the box. How should I recover from this?
[00:02] <tozen> *boot usb creation program
[00:02] <LadyLight> the computer i have is a mini dell, it has no CD driver
[00:02] <silverarrow> LadyLight: most pcs should boot usb these days, but you might have to fiddle a bit in BIOS
[00:02] <silverarrow> then definitely usb install
[00:02] <zykotick9> tozen: actually, you don't, ubuntu ISOs are no hybrid usb/cdrom - so you can just cat/dd them to usb an it'll work.  but you unetbootin suggestion is easier!
[00:02] <zykotick9> Garr255: tasksel should NOT be used for removing things...
[00:03] <Garr255> zyk: I was trying to reinstall lamp
[00:03] <LadyLight> yeah, its the only way
[00:03] <zykotick9> !tab | Garr255
[00:03] <tozen> zykotick9, i dont think so LadyLight have expirience in Linux
[00:03] <Garr255> zykotick9, thanks for that :P
[00:03] <Tryy3> how can i open firefox through SSH (got MobaXTerm on my windows computer so i can use X server!)
[00:04] <LadyLight> what's that supposed to mean?
[00:04] <zykotick9> Garr255: reinstalling is "typically" useless in gnu/linux.  but you should use "sudo apt-get purge FOO" to remove programs and settings (fyi if the program uses home folder for settings, those will NOT be removed)
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> LadyLight, I believe those dell mini's wont boot from every usb port.
[00:05] <Pedrolito> is it possible to upgrade to the beta right now?
[00:05] <tozen> LadyLight, what OS do u using now?
[00:05] <zykotick9> Pedrolito: reask in #ubuntu+1
[00:05] <Garr255> zykotick9, okay thanks.
[00:05] <Pedrolito> ok thank you
[00:06] <john_doe_jr> Does anyone know how I can search for a ppa?
[00:06] <LadyLight> tozen, It's windows xp. but that got screwed up when i tired to reinstall it so i have to try and use ubuntu now....
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, what are you looking for to get from one?
[00:07] <tozen> LadyLight, WAIT!
[00:07] <john_doe_jr> I need a ifolder build for Ubuntu 12.04
[00:07] <LadyLight> 'yes?!
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, A folder?
[00:07] <john_doe_jr> 'ifolder'
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> ah ifolder
[00:07] <john_doe_jr> I went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=ifolder
[00:08] <Cyberkilla> Anyone aware of an RDP client for linux that has TS Gateway support?
[00:08] <john_doe_jr> I have a 64 bit computer
[00:08] <dylan> does anyone here know how too use ppapurge?
[00:08] <tozen> LadyLight, first step is u need to now how to setup startup from flash in BIOS
[00:08] <tozen> LadyLight, do u now it?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, here is my search. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ifolder+ppa&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=5sdwUPXBE4nYtAax54GoBg
[00:09] <LadyLight> going into bios and moving the usb thing above hard drive?
[00:09] <dylan> does anyone here know how to use ppapurge?
[00:09] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: right but I don't know which ppa I should use to make sure that it works on my system…kinda new to linux
[00:10] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: A ppa means that the user build it and I can just download their build so I don't have to build it right?
[00:10] <tozen> LadyLight, second step is u need flash USB boot creating soft to be installed on ur system
[00:10] <LadyLight> ... what does that mean 'tozen' ?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, The first one is only supported to lucid, generally you look at the drop down on the PPA page and see if your distro is covered and the version of what you want if on the page, or in comparison of what you have, and be backed up, and able to back your way out of a broken install.
[00:11] <rogue780> wilee-nilee, can't figure a way to get that script onto the computer…it has no network connectivity atm, and my mac won't read the one thumb drive I have, which is currently containing the install media
[00:11] <rogue780> I'll just have to skin this cat another way, i think
[00:11] <tozen> LadyLight, so if i understand u correct u have no any system ready to be used now?
[00:11] <dylan> can someone help me?
[00:12] <tozen> ur windows xp is crashed
[00:12] <dylan> I keep getting "E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[00:12] <dylan> when I try to install something
[00:12] <tozen> LadyLight is it true?
[00:12] <LadyLight> yes, the computer doesnt allow me to login to windows
[00:12] <dylan> I ws told I needed to use ppa-purge, but I don't know how.
[00:12] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: so no one has built iFolder on ubuntu 12.04 64 right?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> rogue780, I suppose so there is a app called supergrub that is tiny and bootable that will find a OS if it is bootable, but on a mac or in your situation I can't say it will work.
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> !info ifolder
[00:13] <tozen> LadyLight, well u have an online access now, just use the search to find boot usb sofware
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, I can't give you a definitive no.
[00:14] <rogue780> wilee-nilee, if my basement hadn't flooded, I would have so much more at my disposal right now…but as it is, all I was left with that is functional is my macbook
[00:14] <rogue780> and, of course, this server i'm trying to get rolling for someone
[00:14] <LadyLight> yeah, im doing that on the other computer (mac)
[00:14] <tozen> LadyLight, stick in flash drive after and do the boot usb
[00:15] <dylan> can someone please help me, I've had this problem for weeks
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> rogue780, IU would check the web on that HD there are a couple of WD HD's that are problematic with linux, hard to say ikf this is the case here but worth checking.
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> I*
[00:15] <LadyLight> yeah, im downloading the one you mentioned
[00:16] <rogue780> wilee-nilee, thanks. I'll look into that
[00:16] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: Well, my problem is that I'm installing the server (instructions found @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iFolderInstall) and down to the last step and enter in the following command 'sudo dpkg -i libsimias*deb simias-client*deb' but get the following in my terminal: http://pastie.org/4925125 …it is like it doesn't see any .deb files
[00:17] <tozen> LadyLight, after all is done u can try to boot from ur boot usb using F2-F12 or Tab, or Delete buttons, depends of netbook model
[00:17] <Z_God> how do you change the gtk3 theme in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:17] <Z_God> I just installed Evolution and it looks horrible by default
[00:18] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am using 12.04 on a netbook with Radeon HD video chipset, the default radeon free drivers, and fullscreen videos in browser are very slow and choppy, be it flash or even html5. I tried everything I could, any advise ? Thanks.
[00:18] <dylan> I keep getting "E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[00:18] <dylan> when I try to install something
[00:18] <tozen> LadyLight, F2-F12 gives u access to BIOS to setup boot priorities
[00:18] <dylan> any help?
[00:19] <dylan> I was told I needed to use ppa-purge, but I don't know how
[00:19] <Hatori> dylan, what the problems?
[00:19] <dylan> I can;t install anything using apt-get
[00:20] <dylan> it always gives that error
[00:20] <LadyLight> thanks tozen, i'll let you know what happens, if it works and stuff :)
[00:20] <dylan> when I run something like sudo apt-get -f install it still igves the error
[00:20] <dylan> I was told to use ppa-purge, but I have no idea how
[00:20] <tozen> LadyLigth, dont be hesitate to ask
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> dylan, I see others with this problem commonly the answer seems to be a reinstall of that package, see post 7 here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2033450
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> notice the sudo dpkg --configure -a command as well
[00:21] <tozen> dylan, sudo apt-get install -f ?
[00:22] <Hatori> dylan, look at /etc/apt/sources.lis.d/ directory ...maybe some ppa source are you using
[00:22] <dylan> tozen: doesnt work
[00:22] <dylan> I was told it was a ppa issue
[00:22] <dylan> they said to use ppa purge
[00:22] <dylan> but I don't know how
[00:22] <dylan> I did manage to install ppa-purge
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> dylan, Who told you this?
[00:23] <dylan> erm
[00:23] <dylan> l3pot iirc
[00:23] <dylan> and someone else....
[00:23] <machicola> noob question: how hard is it for someone to 'root' you or get through on linux i.e. ubuntu, just with default settings & setup.... is it unlikely/likely, etc?
[00:23] <Hatori> dylan, remove that sources.list.d entries
[00:23] <machicola> also, what would you want to check , at the command line, to see if anything fishy is goin on
[00:23] <Hatori> And rerun apt-get update
[00:23] <dylan> Hatori: I have no idea how
[00:24] <dylan> Hatori: I don't know what "that" entry is
[00:24] <Hatori> machicola, what you mean with 'root'?
[00:24] <machicola> like, break through your system securities so they can do things an administrator or the owner could do
[00:25] <tozen> dylan, try to generate new sources. list : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> machicola, You mean a rootkit or a hack?
[00:25] <machicola> yeah wilee-nilee
[00:25] <machicola> rootkit or hack you
[00:25] <Hatori> machicola, it was more hard compared to "other" shinny os :d
[00:26] <machicola> oh yeah, for sure
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> machicola, Any thing is possible it is a matter of how secure you are and if someone really wants to get in, a percentile of it happening is a moot point really.
[00:26] <machicola> yeah, well , im not trying to make any points lol ;-)
[00:26] <machicola> it was purely a question
[00:26] <korj> че за хрень?
[00:27] <Hatori> machicola, without your stupidity, i think was hard
[00:27] <dhana013> HI
[00:27] <machicola> whats a good network, command line command to check if you're getting rootkitted
[00:28] <machicola> thanks Hatori
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> machicola, rkhunter is a rootkit scanner but yiou have to know how to use it, it's not just a purdy gui like you would get in a MS setup.
[00:28] <Hatori> machicola, install some snort or lids .. Looks at your logs,
[00:28] <saori> hi I recently added a second monitor to my Ubuntu 12.04 setup. It is not the same size or orientation as my main monitor. Is it possible to set it up such that I can extend my desktop onto it without scaling or panning? I have been trying without success for a bit now.
[00:29] <machicola> i was more thinking along the lines of shell built ins
[00:29] <machicola> isnt there just some basic programs to run?
[00:29] <machicola> just to maybe get an idea if somethin weird is goin on
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> !virus
[00:30] <Hatori> machicola, actually i don't know what you want to talk about ... Very common to understand and maybe better to more spesific
[00:32] <machicola> basic shell commands to observe if someone is rootkitting you, specifically, lol
[00:32] <machicola> i'll just add 'specifically'
[00:32] <dylan> tozen
[00:32] <dylan> it still wont work
[00:33] <dylan> I keep getting the "Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0"
[00:33] <machicola> np, will figure it out
[00:33] <dylan> should my sources.list.d folder be empty?
[00:33] <dylan> it's empty
[00:33] <tozen> no!
[00:33] <dylan> hmmm
[00:33] <dylan> oh
[00:33] <dylan> I found them
[00:34] <dylan> in a random folder
[00:34] <tozen> dylan, did u try to create new one?
[00:34] <dylan> at some point yes
[00:34] <dylan> apparently
[00:34] <FloodBot1> dylan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <dylan> tozen: There is one for google chrome in here.  could that be causing the problem?
[00:34] <Hatori> machicola, run w,who to know who is login to your box, look at process list, with pstree, ps, or top .. And find somethng look strange
[00:36] <ziggy> yo
[00:36] <ziggy> sup
[00:36] <tozen> dylan, well what terminal says when u trying to update sourses?
[00:36] <tozen> *sources
[00:36] <dylan> how do I update sources?
[00:36] <Guest48855> anyone know where i can get a copy of redflag linux
[00:36] <tozen> dylan sudo apt-get update
[00:37] <machicola> ahh, thanks Hatori... ok, think that's what i was lookin for
[00:37] <dylan> oh, a bunch of stuff saying Hit
[00:37] <dylan> and IGN
[00:37] <dylan> no errors from what I can see
[00:37] <dylan> shall I pastebin it?
[00:38] <Hatori> dylan, looks great
[00:38] <tozen> dylan, i dont see the problem more
[00:38] <Hatori> machicola, learn some basic tool to analyze and understanding your system behaviour
[00:39] <dylan> still throwing errors when I try to install stuff
[00:39] <silverarrow> Stenbryggen: hei, er du kjent med bankID?
[00:39] <dylan> tozen: Hazori: http://pastebin.com/W6hPKeKG
[00:39] <tozen> dylan, type what the error u see in terminal
[00:40] <machicola> thanks again Hatori, was very helpful
[00:40] <dylan> I just pastebinned it
[00:40] <dylan> it's kind of long
[00:40] <dylan> http://pastebin.com/W6hPKeKG
[00:41] <Hatori> dylan, i want to know the spesific caused the error
[00:41] <Redi> I know that I will maybe start a flamewar, but how it REALLY is with supporting upstream? For example if you compare it with Debian's "We will communicate things such as bug fixes, improvements and user requests to the upstream authors of works included in our system."?
[00:41] <Hatori> I can't look at your link given
[00:41] <dylan> Hatori: what do you mean by "specific"?  If I try to apt-get ANYTHING I get the "Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0"
[00:42] <Hatori> dylan, wait a minute
[00:42] <dylan> k
[00:42] <silverarrow> can anyone open this page, and check if the java ID test runs ? https://www.bankid.no/Hjelp-og-nyttige-verktoy/Nyttige-verktoy/Test-din-BankID/
[00:43] <silverarrow> sorry it is not in English, but the java window should launch recognizable
[00:43] <bobo37773> dylan: Have you tried just doing what it says in the error message?: "Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages"
[00:43] <jagginess> silverarrow, java isnt safe.. i dont think anyone should test that
[00:43] <dylan> yes
[00:43] <bobo37773> ah okat
[00:43] <dylan> I have tried that more times than I can count
[00:43] <silverarrow> jagg, that is an official bankID java test though
[00:44] <BlackNarcissus> dylan: Is it an upgrade or a fresh install ?
[00:44] <dylan> it's not fresh
[00:44] <dylan> I've had it for a while
[00:45] <bobo37773> dylan: You tried updating repos too right?
[00:45] <Zacarias> Hi. I-m trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an Acer Aspire notebook. I-m trying from a USB stick. But I can-t boot from it. Nothing happens automatically, I tried F12, but nothing. It always starts up from windows
[00:45] <tozen> dylan, i steel waiting an answer from u about new sources.list
[00:45] <kendfinger> Hello! :D Anyone liking Quantal?
[00:45] <silverarrow> jagginess: that is an official BankID java test site, in it`s self it should be safe I mean
[00:45] <dylan> tozen: what about sources.list?
[00:45] <kendfinger> Cause I know I do!
[00:45] <Hatori> dylan, where come from libsdl you have been installed?
[00:45] <jagginess> Zacarias, try pendrive or unetbootin (i prefer pendrive on mswindows)
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> Zacarias, Do you see the usb in the f12?
[00:46] <dylan> Hatori: what?  Are you asking why I'm installing it?
[00:46] <tozen> dylan, did u tried to create a new one with a link what i gave u?
[00:46] <dylan> tozen I did
[00:46] <BlackNarcissus> dylan: I meant did you upgrade from a previous version of Ubuntu or did you install it ?
[00:46] <dylan> BlackNacissus I fresh installed
[00:46] <jagginess> Zacarias, oh yeah.. make sure there's only 1 partition on the usb (though technically in advanced scenario this does have to be), and that it is FAT32
[00:47] <zykotick9> !info rkhunter | machicola
[00:47] <tozen> dylan, good, do now sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[00:47] <jagginess> Zacarias, fixing what i said-->> ""(though technically in advanced scenario this DOESNT have to be), and that it is FAT32"""
[00:47] <silverarrow> kendfinger: yaeh, it is coming along fine, but with issues that needs some attention
[00:47] <Zacarias> wilee-nilee: Nothing happens when I press F12. I have a @press F2 for setup@ and it begins immediately to run windows
[00:47] <kendfinger> yeah I know
[00:47] <kendfinger> silverarrow: I know that for sure
[00:47] <tozen> dylan, and sudo apt-get install -f
[00:48] <jagginess> Zacarias, maybe it's f10 or f11, you have to hit the key really fast upon machine startup..
[00:48] <dylan> you mean sudo apt-get -f isntall?
[00:48] <dylan> I have tried that multiple times
[00:48] <jagginess> Zacarias, also this is more of a PITA especially with acer netbook..
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Zacarias, There is a lock on the bios I have a aceraspire one have you unlocked it?
[00:48] <Zacarias> jagginess: I made the USB with Sartup Disk Creator
[00:48] <Hatori> dylan, where come from libsdl you have been installed?
[00:48] <kendfinger> silverarrow: I am having problems using Software Center reccomendations. I login then it ask me if I wanna turn it on again. And then it just keeps doing that in a loop
[00:49] <jagginess> Zacarias, ACER netbook--> turn off the netbook, unplug the battery, unplug the usb, replug the battery, plug in the usb, and then turn on the machine power (trust me on this) and then of course keep tapping that special bootmenu key to select usb
[00:49] <dylan> Hatori: what do you mean by that???
[00:49] <dylan> Hatori: like what do I need it for?
[00:49] <silverarrow> kendfinger: I`m in lubuntu quantal right now, and it only has package manager for some reason, it has software center in 12.04
[00:49] <dylan> I'm trying to emulate N64 games
[00:50] <dylan> with mupen64
[00:50] <Hatori> dylan, you can use apt-cache show
[00:50] <kendfinger> I am having problems using Software Center reccomendations in 12.10 (Quantal). I login then it ask me if I wanna turn it on again. And then it just keeps doing that in a loop
[00:50] <Zacarias> wilee-nilee: No, where is it
[00:50] <tozen> dylan, what u need to do (usually to solve that kind of problem) is create a new sources.list and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, after that sudo apt-get install -f
[00:50] <dylan> Hatori: E: No packages found
[00:51] <Hatori> dylan, i think you ave mix multiples sources
[00:51] <zykotick9> tozen: fyi, PPAs aren't in sources.list, so that strategy may not accomplish what you want it too.
[00:51] <kendfinger> Logging in again using Quassel
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> Zacarias, It is one of the f keys I forget I found it by just powering on and sweeping across all of them.
[00:51] <silverarrow> kendfinger: you will probably get better feedback in Ubuntu+1, if it isn`t much the same issues in both quantal and precise
[00:51] <kendfinger> ok
[00:51] <kendfinger> :)
[00:51] <kendfinger> silverarrow: Thanks
[00:52] <Hatori> dylan, i think you need remove that packages caused the problems
[00:52] <anandsun> hello
[00:53] <anandsun> can anyone help me with boot repair on ubuntu 12.04?
[00:53] <Hatori> dylan, if you trust me, you should purge it
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> Zacarias, I think the locked bios if I remember blocks that usb f12 boot. http://www.ehow.com/how_8093515_unlock-bios-aspire-one.html
[00:53] <basketballstar> !language
[00:53] <Hatori> Anandsum, use live cd to repair....
[00:54] <dylan> Hatori: I trust you
[00:54] <dylan> walk me through it
[00:54] <anandsun> Hatori, I didn't install from cd.
[00:54] <Hatori> Anandsum, more detail please
[00:54] <anandsun> Hatori, I used wubi to install dual boot on Windows 7
[00:54] <anandsun> It was working for a week
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> Zacarias, Mine had no password if I remember correctly.
[00:54] <anandsun> today after software update it freezes forever on boot screen
[00:54] <anandsun> I can get to command line, but can't load GUI
[00:54] <MartynK> i had this one once anandsun
[00:55] <pibarnas> anandsun: nvidia?
[00:55] <anandsun> MartynK did you fix it?
[00:55] <MartynK> frustrated the hell outta me. one sec...
[00:55] <MartynK> i'll find the link if i can
[00:55] <anandsun> no I have intel cards all the way
[00:55] <Hatori> Dylan, use dpkg with purge options if you can't use apt-get
[00:55] <anandsun> I tried boot repair but it won't work because of X11 and Gtk or something
[00:55] <dylan> Hatori: how do I do that?
[00:56] <anandsun> sorry, pibarnas: no, Intel
[00:56] <zykotick9> Hatori: you need to be careful with WUBI installs and grub from livecd!
[00:56] <basketballstar> wilee-nilee,  what is a good book to learn python
[00:56] <zykotick9> Hatori: fyi "apt-get purge foo" is a valid command
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> basketballstar, How would I know
[00:56] <basketballstar> because your smart
[00:56] <MartynK> BINGO.... this worked for me.... http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[00:56] <Hatori> zykotick9, not or me
[00:57] <anandsun> Martynk: Thanks, will try
[00:57] <zykotick9> Hatori: what are you running 8.04?
[00:57] <dylan> So what am I purging?
[00:57] <MartynK> now that u mention X11..i did change something there too... one sec...
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> basketballstar, I'm sure I can produce others that might not argue that. ;)
[00:57] <anandsun> MartynK: sorry, I've been trying that, but boot-repair won't load for me!
[00:57] <Hatori> zykotick9, i'm not in problems
[00:57] <anandsun> Martynk: it says something about X11 and Gtk in error
[00:58] <zykotick9> Hatori: i know, but if you don't have "apt-get purge foo" it's gotta be WAY old...
[00:58] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am using 12.04 on a netbook with Radeon HD video chipset, the default radeon free drivers, and fullscreen videos in browser are very slow and choppy, be it flash or even html5. I tried everything I could, any advice ? Thanks.
[00:58] <Hatori> zykotick9, yes,i know this bit a deep...
[00:58] <MartynK> try this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/129282/nvidia-9800-gtx-x11-fails-to-initialize-no-unity-or-lightdm
[00:59] <MartynK> u on nvidia right?
[00:59] <zykotick9> MartynK: please see "/msg ubottu u"
[00:59] <Hatori> thats wouldn't always work like charm if apt was in consisten state.. You should know this
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> BlackNarcissus, What is the ram, and have you tried the unity 2d?
[01:00] <Hatori> I mean was not in consisten state
[01:00] <MartynK> smart ass! lol
[01:01] <dylan> Hatori: what am I doing with this purge thing?
[01:01] <BlackNarcissus> wilee-nilee: I have tried Unity 2D and even Xubuntu, Xfce4. It has 4GB of ram, more than enough. Fullscreen videos in vlc works fine.
[01:01] <zykotick9> MartynK: <i'm just joking here> see "/msg ubottu language" and "/msg ubottu lol" ;)  i'm only kidding.
[01:01] <Zacarias> wilee-nilee: I pressed F12 to go to the BIOS, has the link suggested. But what know
[01:02] <dylan> !lol
[01:02] <dylan> !language
[01:02] <MartynK> hahaha
[01:04] <Zacarias> wilee-nilee: That-s ok, I managed it! It was disabled. I-m now running the Ubuntu installer. Thanks! Sorry for the punctuation, I-m using a difrenet keyboard
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> BlackNarcissus, there is a ppa with radeon drivers I believe, I wonder if that might be a okay source, use at your own risk there are multiple wiki's on radeon.  Radeon HD video chipset
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[01:06] <dylan> screw it
[01:06] <dylan> I'm done with this
[01:06] <dylan> I'll deal with it later
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> Zacarias, Cool I found with mine bumping to ram to 2 gigs helped a lot on running ubuntu as well.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> the*
[01:07] <BlackNarcissus> wilee-nilee: Thanks. I already tried the x-swat ppa but there was no updates. I'll try the xorg-edgers ppa but I tried the proprietary drivers from AMD and it's the same...
[01:07] <BlackNarcissus> Not really hopeful
[01:08] <ifndefx> HI, i've managed to get my bluetooth keyboard to work. however, I cannot get it to work at the login prompt.
[01:08] <ifndefx> How can I enable bluetooth services at the tiem of login ?
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> BlackNarcissus, If it was me I would search with the exact info on the hardware and ubuntu, but I suspect you already have.
[01:11] <BlackNarcissus> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I did, and my Radeon chipset is quite obscure, which doesn't really helps.
[01:11] <ifndefx> any ideas on my bluetooth problem
[01:14] <tryingUbuntu> weather indicator 11.11.28 cloundy9 not working right... says connection no good.. can anyone help
[01:14] <MartynK> if you unplug your BT receiver and plug in it back in again....will it work?
[01:14] <MartynK> ie: let you type password?
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> ifndefx, Not sure but this might be what you need. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup#Connect_Devices_at_Startup
[01:16] <ifndefx> ok thanks I'll have a read of that
[01:16] <MartynK> did u unplug/replug it?
[01:16] <MartynK> it just helps identify WHERE the issue lies
[01:17] <ifndefx> MartynK, no I hadn't I was expecting it to work.
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> a replug is a good idea
[01:18] <ifndefx> I've just updated boot up services using BUM, bluetooth was disabled. I'm hoping that activating this at boot up will help (would this be a correct assumption) ?
[01:18] <MartynK> r u dualbooting ubuntu / win7?
[01:18] <ifndefx> yeah
[01:18] <MartynK> if so...be sure to use the same PAIRING code.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> +1
[01:19] <MartynK> so it works great with win 7 with code 1234, be sure to set as your pairing code on ubuntu ;)
[01:19] <ifndefx> but I've read that I cannot use bluetooth at or within grub unless it is onboard.
[01:19] <ifndefx> thanks for that info.
[01:19] <MartynK> whats ur laptop?
[01:19] <ifndefx> its a desktop
[01:19] <MartynK> ah
[01:19] <MartynK> no OB bt then?
[01:20] <MartynK> ok, so be sure to have the same pair code
[01:20] <ifndefx> no, via a usb dongle
[01:20] <MartynK> ok.
[01:20] <MartynK> front or back panel?
[01:20] <ifndefx> back panel
[01:20] <MartynK> good.
[01:20] <ifndefx> ok thanks I'm going to try this reboot
[01:20] <MartynK> front panel goes through BUS (that could have cuased issue)
[01:20] <ifndefx> will be back
[01:20] <MartynK> ok, well do same pair code ;)
[01:20] <ifndefx> yup will do, thanks heaps
[01:21] <MartynK> this should be interesting to found out if it works or not.
[01:21] <MartynK> win7 auto generates a pair code. ubuntu actually asks you for one
[01:32] <gasnic> hi
[01:32] <svspl> hi
[01:33] <tryingUbuntu> weather indicator 11.11.28 cloundy9 not working right... says connection no good.. can anyone help
[01:33] <WHOisAmanda> how do i use wine
[01:34] <WHOisAmanda> just the basics to start using
[01:34] <MartynK> @tryingubuntu: run this: sudo apt-get install python-pywapi
[01:35] <svspl> WHOisAmanda: wine app.exe
[01:35] <WHOisAmanda> do i need to have that exe in wine folder
[01:36] <svspl> no
[01:36] <WHOisAmanda> well just if it is on my flash drive how would i do it
[01:36] <WHOisAmanda> same way
[01:36] <MartynK> WINE is used to get people drunk, but besides that it is used to run windows based programs in the ubuntu S
[01:36] <MartynK> ubutnu OS
[01:37] <svspl> can't you just double-click on it like in windows? it should work by default
[01:37] <locoguano> Been back with windows for a bit and I would like to dual boot. Should I install 12.10 beta 2 or hold off until 12.10 final? If I go with beta 2 how easy will it be to upgrade later?
[01:37] <WHOisAmanda> k i try if not work i be back
[01:37] <MartynK> i personally havent had much luck with wine, so i dual boot "for a reason"! ;)
[01:38] <MartynK> the upgrade path will be seamless. no uninstall.reinstall needed at the time
[01:38] <MartynK> u can try 12.10 but please note it WILL be buggy.
[01:38] <MartynK> 12.04 is SOLID.
[01:38] <MartynK> make sure you get 32bit though
[01:38] <svspl> I have a thunderbird-portable for windows on my flash-drive and was too lazy to install linux version, so I'm using it thru wine, works great
[01:38] <sidney_> The LTS is buggy at this point?
[01:39] <locoguano> IC... Yeah... 12.04 is great.
[01:39] <MartynK> PAE will kick in and show any ram you have over 4gb ram in there
[01:39] <MartynK> i love 12.04 (32bit) 64 is different code and IS unstable.
[01:39] <MartynK> **in my exp.
[01:40] <locoguano> I have two reasons for Win7... World of Warcraft and MS Office... Other than that I would be Ubuntu all the way.
[01:40] <kendfinger> Anyone here play Tekkit?
[01:40] <kendfinger> I know somebody here plays Tekkit. :)
[01:40] <svspl> MartynK: agreed. I'm using 32bit version even tho I have 64bit CPU
[01:40] <oranabi> locoguano, you can do those with wine
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> sidney_, Not really a fully true statement, as far as no more then normal, never has been for me.
[01:40] <MartynK> i use ubuntu primarily....but at work...i have my dual boot win7 machine for that
[01:41] <crimsonmane> locoguano: i play WoW on linux just fine
[01:41] <buntunub> the newest xpac for WoW may not work in Wine very well just yet
[01:41] <locoguano> I've never been able to get Office stable with Wine... I usually just run it in Virtualbox. WoW is another issue... WoW crashes my laptop unless I make changes with Rivatuner... I haven't been able to simulate those changes in Linux.
[01:41] <tryingUbuntu> MartynK  Forcast information cannot be fetched.   connection cannot be established??????
[01:41] <sidney_> wilee-nilee, do you use the 64 bit version?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> sidney_, NO 32 bit.
[01:42] <MartynK> haha sidney...i was just about to ask Trying Ubuntu that.
[01:42] <MartynK> TU...u on 32bit or 64?
[01:42] <MartynK> & did you run that code i PM's you?
[01:42] <MartynK> and/or upgrade to cloud10?
[01:43] <crimsonmane> locoguano: to play WoW on linux, you will want wine1.5 and you have to disable "peer to peer" in the launcher.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> sidney_, Problem with the term buggy is to whom.
[01:43] <crimsonmane> locoguano: and LibreOffice is just as good as MS Office
[01:43] <sidney_> Maybe that why I has problems. I was using 64 bit
[01:43] <tryingUbuntu> MartynK   doesnt even open on docky...
[01:44] <MartynK> read here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-weather/+bug/1048193
[01:44] <locoguano> I prefer LibreOffice, but I have to use a lot of MSOffice files for work and the formating often gets messed up.
[01:44] <MartynK> notice at top it says fixed release?
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> level of skill is a factor as well as a personal definition of buggy
[01:44] <tryingUbuntu> MartynK  just saw your pv mess.. ill try it thx.
[01:44] <MartynK> click on that & log in for fix
[01:44] <crimsonmane> locoguano: well at least you can say now that WoW is not a reason to stay on windows anymore.
[01:45] <MartynK> ok
[01:45] <MartynK> let me know
[01:45] <MartynK> if it doesnt work: login fior the fix here: https://login.launchpad.net/c9PK9xcvjv6JJ5wP/+decide
[01:45] <gsned> any networking wizards out there - having problems configuring my network…might be bit of a complicated one?
[01:46] <locoguano> The problem with WoW isn't with getting it to work. Plays fine. But for some reason WoW and my video card hate each other. I found a work around for Windows by using RivaTuner... I just haven't been able to get those changes to work in Ubuntu. I want to dual boot so I can use those programs while I work on getting Ubuntu working right for me. Once I do that, I will make the Ubuntu change permanent.
[01:46] <locoguano> Are the changes in 12.10 worth dealing with beta bugs or just stick with 12.04?
[01:47] <svspl> stick with 12.04, no doubt
[01:47] <locoguano> works for me... thanks
[01:48] <svspl> don't change to newer software only because it's newer. do so only if you really know why you would want that
[01:49] <crimsonmane> dealing with the bugs is a good idea if you want to contribute, not if you wanna get work done
[01:49] <locoguano> Well... everything is worth trying. I am not so attached to anything on this laptop that I can't just wipe it and reinstall. I actually kinda enjoy setting things up.
[01:50] <crimsonmane> how many linux distros have you experienced, locoguano
[01:50] <locoguano> I tried Redhat for a while like.. 10 years ago... Now pretty much Ubuntu.
[01:51] <crimsonmane> i'm a big fan on Mint
[01:51] <yekoms> how do i update the libs i have installed? my configure script is finding the module, but when the binary does a test run, it fails saying it doesnt exist
[01:51] <gsned> please someone help me!  I've been running ubuntu box as server - dhcp3 and samba server.  everything fine until i moved house.  neighbour has kindly given me access to her network via wifi but signal really weak.  Basically have spare laptop on windowsill, which connects to wifi and then via internet connection sharing feeds connection to a router i've got set up to "boost" through the house.  only problem being is that my ubuntu "server" which is connected
[01:51] <gsned>  via lan cable to router uses different network ip's - neighbours connection is 10.42.0.1 and i've set up all my boxes to point to the ubuntu server which is 192.168.1.1.  any suggestions?
[01:52] <svspl> locoguano: I enjoy it too, but on the other hand I'm happy that I installed my Ubuntu a year ago and didn't see the installer since but just used a dist-upgrade to switch from 11.10
[01:52] <gsned> basically i want the server to act as the gateway if that makes sense?!
[01:52] <Richie086> is the ubuntu server set statically?
[01:52] <Richie086> I am going to guess so
[01:52] <locoguano> I took a look at mint in VB... very nice. Can't say I know enough about linux to really tell the difference. I used to be very into the hardware side of computing, but since I started teaching (history) I really don't have time for that kind of thing anymore.
[01:53] <gsned> yeah ubuntu server set static ip as it's the dhcp3 server
[01:53] <johnpamar> hw
[01:53] <gsned> just wiped the server so fresh install ready for config
[01:54] <MasonAlexCo> hello
[01:54] <locoguano> well thanks for the advice... see you.
[01:54] <crimsonmane> locoguano: the difference between distros in pre-included drivers and the basic appearance. there's little difference.
[01:54] <MasonAlexCo> Anyone from India?
[01:54] <MasonAlexCo> I need support
[01:55] <crimsonmane> MasonAlexCo: that was racist
[01:55] <MasonAlexCo> I am Indian
[01:55] <MasonAlexCo> crimsonmane,  so no it is not racist
[01:55] <crimsonmane> that's nice. you're still racist
[01:55] <svspl> gsned: did you set up masquerade and ip_forward?
[01:55] <Richie086> just add a static route from your server to 10.42.0.1
[01:55] <MasonAlexCo> well I need support with language files
[01:55] <ezrafree> hello
[01:56] <ezrafree> is there a command i can use to figure out what the mapping code is for a mouse button?
[01:56] <gsned> Richie086 - is that all i need to do!? that can be done in network manager eh?
[01:56] <arielsanflo> hello
[01:56] <arielsanflo> help
[01:56] <arielsanflo> no puedo navegar en internet
[01:56] <arielsanflo> y bestoy conectado correcatmente
[01:56] <FloodBot1> arielsanflo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <gsned> will anything conflict with the fact neighbours router running dhcp as well?
[01:57] <virusuy> hi !
[01:57] <svspl> gsned: if you use different network than theirs it should be ok
[01:57] <arielsanflo> #ubuntu-es
[01:57] <gsned> svspl - masquerade and ip_forward set up on the laptop that takes the signal "in" to my router
[01:57] <Richie086> I would look up the syntax of how to add a route in ubutnu
[01:57] <tute> Hello, does anyone here have any experience running Ubuntu 12.04 on an EEEBox Nettop?
[01:58] <tute> I'm getting some seriously annoying issues with the wireless; my wireless connection keeps dropping every couple minutes
[01:58] <tute> has anyone else had this problem?
[01:58] <gsned> tutee - running 12.04 on an eebox b202
[01:58] <tute> gsned, do you have any issue with the wireless dropping out?
[01:58] <Richie086> gsned: try ip route help in a terminal for the full list of options
[01:58] <silverarrow> crimsonmane: in toothpaste it is great
[01:58] <gsned> tute - google blacklisting wifi driver for the eebox should solve problem
[01:58] <crimsonmane> tute: yes i have that on my desktop using a WUSB600N from linksys
[01:58] <tute> gsned, thank you i will check that out
[02:00] <tute> gsned hrm, maybe i am missing something, but im not getting any relevant google results. could you briefly describe what you did to solve the problem?
[02:01] <MartynK> so that guy hasnt come back regarding his bluetooth issue!? FIXED??
[02:02] <altin> can anyone tell me how can I see if my swap spave is in use !?
[02:03] <jrib> altin: free -m
[02:04] <svspl> altin: or top, htop
[02:05] <altin> I am having problems because my swap used to be shown as unknown space
[02:05] <altin> I had to log with live cd and reformat the space
[02:05] <altin> but I am not sure if its being used now
[02:05] <altin> svspl: jrib
[02:05] <altin> # swap was on /dev/sda3 during installation
[02:05] <altin> #UUID=71c4b1e4-8c94-4348-afac-14c3076003b9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:05] <altin> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[02:06] <altin> this is shown in my fstab
[02:06] <jrib> altin: swapon -s
[02:07] <altin> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[02:07] <altin> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1                  partition	2684924	0	-1
[02:07] <altin> does this mean that is running ?
[02:08] <jrib> altin: yes
[02:09] <arielsanflo> help
[02:09] <tute> arielsanflo: same
[02:10] <arielsanflo> no puedo instal;ar ni navegar en internet
[02:10] <arielsanflo> no se que hacer audenme por favor
[02:10] <altin> jrib: thnx :)
[02:10] <tute> i cant find any support for the eeebox 1012p, nor any documentation suggesting which wireless driver to use
[02:10] <arielsanflo> solo puedo entrar a skype
[02:10] <WHOisAmanda> a wine error           --------------------->  http://pastebin.com/VxwxY8NF
[02:10] <arielsanflo> y aesta direccion de google
[02:10] <arielsanflo> http://208.117.253.149/
[02:10] <ClientAlive> Ubuntu 12.04 server with Gnome3 -> [Code]eject /dev/sr0[/Code] -> [Output]eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device[/Output] : Is there a soln for that?
[02:11] <tute> does anyone here have an EeeBox eb1012P?
[02:11] <WHOisAmanda> so coluld someone look at my paste bin
[02:12] <hmmwhatsthisdo> !es | arielsanflo
[02:12] <WHOisAmanda> http://pastebin.com/VxwxY8NF explain to me what i need to do
[02:14] <MartynK> is using wine essential?
[02:14] <silverarrow> is anyone used to bluetooth and phone?
[02:14] <MartynK> can u not dual boot for the win app?
[02:14] <MartynK> OR.....run a virtualbox vm in ubuntu?
[02:14] <Shayba> join #python
[02:15] <tute> yeah, i would suggest using virtualbox
[02:16] <MartynK> go to virtualbox.org and install that (with additions) and run winxp/7 in a vm
[02:16] <ClientAlive> There's kvm but that' comes w/ a bit of a learning curve  :)
[02:17] <MartynK> i have used ubuntu for a couple of years now and EVERYTIME i TRY to get wine to work...it just doesnt do the job for me. so i give up and use VB
[02:18] <MartynK> **kernal based vm?
[02:19] <ClientAlive> vmware has "fusion" which will run apps from any o/s in one system - but not in thier free version (Player).
[02:20] <julio> HOLA
[02:20] <julio>  buenas noches
[02:20] <tute> hola
[02:20] <tute> huevos
[02:21] <julio>  soy nuevo en linux y pues tengo
[02:21] <julio>  un probrema
[02:21] <tute> !es | julio
[02:21] <julio>  espero alguien pueda ayudarme
[02:21] <ClientAlive> huevos rancheros  :)
[02:22] <tute> 8)
[02:22] <arielsanflo> I can not help navigate and I can not install
[02:23] <arielsanflo> ubuntu 12.04
[02:24] <arielsanflo> the strange thing is that I can connect to skype
[02:24] <ClientAlive> arielsanflo: What knind of computer are you on?
[02:24] <ClientAlive> trying to install to
[02:25] <gsned____> hmmmm not having much luck
[02:26] <arielsanflo> on a acer aspire one
[02:27] <WHOisAmanda> now how do i use vbox
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> WHOisAmanda, Download it, install a OS, and if needed ask questions and look at the manual as well. There is a #vbox channel as well if needed.
[02:30] <arielsanflo> I can browse ayudano
[02:30] <arielsanflo> I can not install only I can connect to skype
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> arielsanflo,  I have a aceraspire one 12.04 runs fine, your not making sense linking a no install and skype working.
[02:32] <kwikness> hey guys. i have an icon for a drive in my unity task bar that i want removed. how do i make sure this drive doesn't even get mounted at startup?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> kwikness, Internal or external drive?
[02:34] <kwikness> internal
[02:34] <kwikness> it's actually a windows system reserved partition
[02:35] <kwikness> don't want to just randomly go in there and start deleting crap =D
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> kwikness, Did you add it to the fstab?
[02:36] <kwikness> wilee-nilee, nah.. i used the windows installer and it was there when i first booted up
[02:36] <WHOisAmanda> hell i just need help getting wine woking cause i don't even have windows media to install on vbox
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> kwikness, This is a ubuntu install from windows a wubi?
[02:36] <WHOisAmanda> is there a wine irc
[02:37] <kwikness> wilee-nilee, yep
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> kwikness, Cool always include that info.  You know that a wubi is a tryout installation, not meant for longterm.
[02:38] <kwikness> wilee-nilee, why is it just a tryout installation? its functionality doesnt seem limited to me..
[02:39] <kwikness> wilee-nilee, just looks like a convenient way to install ubuntu from windose
[02:39] <kwikness> windows*
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> kwikness, run in the ubuntu terminal cat /etc/fstab and see if windows is in there.  The statement of short term is by the wibi designer, and it is just a file in widows as well.
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> wubi*
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> hehe windows* oops
[02:40] <usrb1n> hello guys. I have a little problem and can't find any good solution. I have a HTML file with a line of 500 chars or more and that line contains multiple times some tags...let's say <h1>123</h1>, <h1>ABC</h1>. How can I extract only the content of that? I tried multiple sed and perl solutions I found but all returns the whole line (which is alot of text)
[02:42] <usrb1n> To be more specific I want to extract all data from <div class="lbbtxt" to next </div>
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> kwikness, Nice thing is though if you like ubuntu that wubi can be transfered to a partition, rather then reinstalling it.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> reinstalling ubuntu that is
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> WHOisAmanda #winehq
[02:43] <WHOisAmanda> thanks
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[02:44] <ClientAlive> Ubuntu 12.04 server with Gnome3 -> [Code]eject /dev/sr0[/Code] -> [Output]eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device[/Output] : Is there a soln for that?
[02:45] <svspl> ClientAlive: happens to me all the time. sometimes eject works, sometimes it doesn't
[02:45] <usrb1n> Any idea about how to extract data betweent 2 html tags without returning the whole line ? (I just checked and the line has 28890 characters).
[02:45] <gabrieluk> when the support for 10.04 is over?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> gabrieluk, about 7 months
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> for the desktop
[02:46] <ClientAlive> svspl: At least mine is predictable. After reboot, works w/ hardware button once, works with eject /dev/sr0 once - then nothing.
[02:46] <svspl> gabrieluk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[02:46] <gabrieluk> mm, not sure if i should update now. i'm about to do a server with many apps running, not sure if it's worthy...
[02:46] <ClientAlive> I'm sick of rebooting every time I want to use my disc drive.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> gabrieluk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:48] <ClientAlive> usrb1n: Now I'm no expert and this is gonna sound really dumb but have you tried grep?
[02:48] <WHOisAmanda> #winehq is dead
[02:48] <ClientAlive> What happens if you grep the tags or something?
[02:49] <ClientAlive> grep <stuff> | cat...
[02:49] <ClientAlive> WHOisAmanda: everything is dead  :0
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> WHOisAmanda, You may have noticed already, but the IRC needs a great deal of patience, if your seeking help, it can be slow to get responses.  The ubuntu forum is a pretty good source of help as well.
[02:50] <WHOisAmanda> thanks again
[02:52] <ClientAlive> peace out...
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> ;
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:57] <Pinkamena_D> hiya. I had this working before but i forgot how to do it. I have a bunch of os installed: ubuntu, backtrack, windows, and recovery partition. After installing backtrack it set that as the default in grub. How do i change the default back to ubuntu?
[02:57] <escott> Pinkamena_D, grub-install /dev/sda
[02:57] <hipitihop> I'm getting an error attaching a specific usb device to guest vm in virtualbox: "Failed to create a proxy device for the USB device. (Error: VERR_READ_ERROR)." attaching other flash drives etc work fine. How can I trace what is going on from the cli to see where it is failing
[02:58] <escott> hipitihop, are you attaching to the same hub
[02:58] <Pinkamena_D> ok, i guess i will try restarting
[02:58] <Pinkamena_D> it says install finished
[02:58] <Pinkamena_D> thanks....
[03:00] <hipitihop> escott, yes, but I have also tried on different machines, one with 12.04.1 and one with 10.04, same issue
[03:00] <Pinkamena_D> ok i just restarted and now the backtrack grub sections are gone completely.
[03:01] <Pinkamena_D> how do i get them back
[03:01] <escott> hipitihop, it could be something different about that usb device
[03:01] <escott> Pinkamena_D, update-grub will regenerate the grub.cfg. since you just installed backtrack ubuntu hasn't yet realized that backtrack exists
[03:02] <Pinkamena_D> is their a way to rescan or something you have to tell ubuntu manually
[03:02] <hipitihop> escott, sure, but it should still just attach it, the fact the guest os may not know what to do with it unless it has driver is a separate issue
[03:03] <hipitihop> escott, many other report similar issue and some point at the udev rules, but since other things attach fine, I'm doubting that is a problem
[03:04] <escott> hipitihop, its not something i know much about
[03:04] <hipitihop> escott, there is also this and I wonder if simular issue is plaguing me https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783714
[03:07] <Pinkamena_D> hi, me yet again. Thanks, that did the trick. Could you tell me what that first command was again so i remember it?
[03:07] <Pinkamena_D> with the dev/sda
[03:08] <escott> Pinkamena_D, when you installed backtrack it put its grub on the mbr so it was booting off of /boot under the backtrack /. grub-install set the mbr to ubuntu's grub so you were booting off of /boot under ubuntu
[03:09] <Pinkamena_D> so first install to set the "Default" os, then update
[03:09] <machicola> which commands would i need to issue in order to attempt to ping the machines on my local network?
[03:09] <escott> Pinkamena_D, if you are the kind of person who likes to experiment with lots of different distros you might consider something like kvm
[03:09] <machicola> i.e. find out my local network ip address , send out pings
[03:09] <escott> machicola, ifconfig to figure out your ip address
[03:09] <Pinkamena_D> i will look into it
[03:10] <hipitihop> escott, I'm suspecting something like the kernel detecting the device and grabing it via mpt-probe or the like, but I don't know how to see if that is the case or how to stop mtp-probe
[03:10] <machicola> escott, ok... when i do that is it Bcast:'this_ip_here' I'm pinging exactly?
[03:11] <machicola> i think it is the broadcast adress i need to ping but wasn't exactly sure about how to do that, i know theres a mask too
[03:11] <Pinkamena_D> what were you trying to ping exactly?
[03:11] <escott> machicola, the broadcast address ends in 255s, but i think you have to be root to do broadcast pings, and i dont think clients are required to respond
[03:12] <machicola> all of the machines on my local network
[03:12] <machicola> ahhh, ok
[03:12] <Pinkamena_D> just run the ping command with the -b
[03:13] <escott> machicola, when i ping the broadcast address i am greated with dead silence
[03:13] <machicola> yeah, i've been using -b, i think its just this network.... some networks do seem to allow it though
[03:13] <machicola> escott, same thing here
[03:13] <Pinkamena_D> funny, i get planty of replies from mine
[03:13] <Pinkamena_D> owell
[03:13] <machicola> at the moment, even though there are many computers on the network
[03:15] <escott> machicola, you might try http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html
[03:16] <machicola> cool, thanks escott
[03:17] <escott> machicola, you can also try nmap or just script out a ping (Depending on how large your network is)
[03:17] <escott> machicola, but nothing requires a host to respond to anything
[03:27] <MK`> Need some Buick help. M¥ mode shift ke¥ appears to have become stuck on, i need to hold it doꝥn to t¥pe like this. Hoꝥ can i disable it?
[03:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[03:29] <ShapeShifter499> Hi, I've looked for a solution everywhere and couldn't find one...    I'm running VMWare Workstation 9.0.0 build-812388 on Ubuntu 12.04 AMD 64 bit version, everytime I go to start a virtual machine my display gliches up and is totally unusable unless I kill workstation by bring up a tty (via ctrl+alt+f1 through f6)   can anyone help me with this?
[03:29] <escott> ShapeShifter499, sounds like a vmware issue
[03:30] <ShapeShifter499> escott, must be I know vbox works fine
[03:31] <Hatori> hello mitrokov
[03:33] <MK`> someone please look at m¥ issue :(
[03:33] <Hatori> mk' ???
[03:34] <MK`> hatori: Need some Buick help. M¥ mode shift ke¥ appears to have become stuck on, i need to hold it doꝥn to t¥pe like this. Hoꝥ can i disable it?
[03:36] <Hatori> change default keybord configuration
[03:37] <MK`> that does not fix the problem: the flag is stuck on in xmodnap
[03:37] <MK`> map*
[03:39] <escott> MK`, change your xmodmap then
[03:39] <oranabi> hey there, does amsn work with webcam on 12.04 ?
[03:49] <MK`> 0-- z
[03:49] <MK`> sorry. Problem now fixed.
[03:52] <alex__> i use goagent to log in the Facebook,but can't   =.=    can anybody help me?
[03:52] <brainysmurf> anyone out there avail for 5 mins to help me figure out setting up dovecot with brand new ca certificates
[03:53] <brainysmurf> I'm using self-signed ones at the moment with no problem, but as soon as I switch the config to the new files it doesn't start and the error isn't clear what's wrong
[03:54] <brainysmurf> I've checked permissions...
[03:57] <MK`> escott, for future reference, I was able to fix it by plugging in a second keyboard, forcing it to reset the state. Incase anyone else comes around asking.
[03:58] <alien2050> Got a question about process and input output/X-Windows... I got an application that is started and MUST be opened in a graphical window or else it fails. I manage this app through a vnc 4 server currently, and in vnc I run it in a fluxbox wm (lightweight) using bash. I would like to be able to start that program through bash from a command line only and redirect the X11 traffic to the original desktop (in this case through vnc); can I 
[03:59] <alien2050> command line would be started on my desktop (normal ssh)
[04:01] <systems7> is there a way to test a serial port on ubuntu server via a windows machine running putty?
[04:01] <systems7> does it have to be a null modem serial cable?
[04:03] <astevens> systems7: no it does not but the output will be messed up but you will see that it is sending/receiving.
[04:03] <systems7> do i have to get something for ubuntu server?
[04:03] <systems7> some type of terminal program
[04:04] <escott> alien2050, most applications crash when you try to migrate them to another X server
[04:04] <astevens> yea, something like minicom or route a shell to it but installing minicom might be easier, it is a simple terminal.
[04:05] <alien2050> you mean if I try and disown the process from my desktop ?
[04:05] <escott> alien2050, migration of the backing server is in the X spec, but its not well supported by almost all applications. you are likely to SEGV if you try to redirect away from the X server backing your VNC server
[04:06] <Cowok> awa
[04:07] <alien2050> hmmm I see... but how would I test it ?
[04:09] <escott> alien2050, see "xmove"
[04:09] <veryhappy> hi guys, i'm really sorry i don't see a vdr channel on here and the guys in #debian already seem to sleep, well vdr is also working on ubuntu so it's anyhow also related to ubuntu :D come on please i have a problem while i try to start vdr it always says cannot access /var/lib/video.00 although it works when i say vdr -v /srv/vdr
[04:10] <alien2050> escott: cool! thx
[04:10] <alien2050> I'll have a look
[04:10] <escott> alien2050, although xmove works the same way as vnc
[04:10] <escott> alien2050, maybe less overhead since it doesnt have to translate X11->vnc->x11
[04:11] <escott> alien2050, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmove
[04:11] <alien2050> not only that, this app is running on hundreds of servers so... that's why I would like an easy way to restart parts of the cluster this way
[04:12] <alien2050> logging to vnc one by one is long and boring
[04:15] <mufasa> linux kernel is written in C correct?
[04:16] <veryhappy> mufasa: yes.
[04:16] <alien2050> there's also many other solutions on the wiki article, thx escott, this should give me a basis for figuring out the best approach (if at all possible)
[04:17] <veryhappy> i'm sorry i have to go
[04:17] <veryhappy> bye
[04:18] <mufasa> Anyone know where I could download a linux kernel that is pure source so I can tinker for fun?
[04:20] <somsip> mufasa: apt-get linux-source
[04:20] <somsip> mufasa: apt-get install linux-source
[04:21] <mufasa> ty
[04:22] <mufasa> I am hoping to tinker with the kernel and develop my own. this would be the best way to do this? then incorporate the kernel into a custom made or another pre-existing linux distribution? I imagine Gentoo would be the easiest to add my kernel into it
[04:23] <L3top> mufasa: to ask the question indicates that the goal is a bit outside of reach. Good luck though. btw other distros are outside of the realm of ubuntu support.
[04:24] <escott> mufasa, you have the ubuntu config in /boot so start with that
[04:24] <mufasa> I asked the question knowing that the goal is out of reach currently. If I am not asking the question, then I am not learning, or starting the process of learning. I am wanting to learn this for fun.
[04:25] <mufasa> All I have done with my programming experience to date is writing programs and applications. I want to get in to the kernel now and begin to fully understand.
[04:27] <L3top> That doesn't make it a supported question.
[04:27] <L3top> Try /join ##linux
[04:29] <mufasa> ok. Thank you for your help thus far.
[04:36] <shockingbehavur_> hello
[04:36] <ekcetera> hey can someone help?
[04:36] <ramprasadgk> he all
[04:36] <ramprasadgk> i have this command sudo update-grub
[04:37] <ramprasadgk> where can i find the source code of this
[04:37] <Jagst3r15> for dropbox in the USC what does this is a transitional dummy package mean
[04:38] <ekcetera> my mouse wont move while i am typing after i turned off the setting to do so
[04:38] <shockingbehavur_> what is the infobot command?
[04:40] <escott> !ubotu
[04:40] <ramprasadgk> i have this command sudo update-grub  where can i find the source code of
[04:41] <escott> ramprasadgk, it runs scripts in /etc/grub.d
[04:41] <ramprasadgk> what scripts
[04:41] <ramprasadgk> i mean which is he program name
[04:41] <ramprasadgk> it screwed up something i want to correct
[04:42] <ekcetera> My mouse won't move while I'm typing or holding down a key even after i turned off the setting that did this for me.
[04:43] <shockingbehavur_> !ubotu
[04:44] <shockingbehavur_> msg !ubotu
[04:44] <shockingbehavur_> !ubotu
[04:44] <shockingbehavur_> !ubottu
[04:46] <ekcetera> can someone please help i have no idea what to do
[04:46] <ramprasadgk> ok tks
[04:48] <cortexA9> do you like ubuntu server ?
[04:50] <cortexA9> what can i do with ubuntu server ?
[04:50] <wildintellect> did a fresh install of 12.04.1 desktop -having a lot of issues where some apps are being held because of libs being an unexpected newer version (apt/synaptic)
[04:51] <wildintellect> cortexA9, the usual stuff any linux server can do
[04:51] <cortexA9> yes i tried it :-) it's awesome
[04:52] <wildintellect> in particular I'm trying to install wine but the newer packages  (mostly .1) are not = to the i386 versions so it won't install
[04:53] <ekcetera> Can someone please help, my mouse freezes while i am typing and i turned off that setting but it's still doing it
[04:57] <cortexA9> how to see if anyone hack my system ?
[05:01] <cortexA9> how to see if anyone hack my system ?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9:install snort and nmap
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9:nmap your own ubuntu system to see what services could be exploited
[05:04] <cortexA9> ok thanks lotuspsychje
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9:what ubuntu version are you on?
[05:04] <cortexA9> 12.04.1
[05:04] <cortexA9> server
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !security | cortexA9
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9:read up the server security, many interesting packages on there
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> brb
[05:14] <Guest97718> hello world.....xoxox
[05:19] <recaptchacapcha> SDDDDDDDDDDDDDD[05:19] <recaptchacapcha> SDDDDDDDDDDDDDD[05:19] <FloodBot1> recaptchacapcha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <wildintellect> in case anyone else is having nightmares with wine or other 32 bit, I think I found my answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12246372&postcount=7
[05:29] <jeneric_> trying out Konversation for the first time. What do you use?
[05:42] <vinoth> Hi :)
[05:42] <vinoth> Gud morning
[05:43] <dak0> Hello, is there gaming channel on freenode?
[05:44] <worm> dak0: Try /list #<Game name>
[05:45] <vinoth> hacker
[05:45] <devslash> is ubuntu server 12.10 stable
[05:46] <dak0> worm: Mhmm, but I looking for *General* gaming channel.
[05:46] <vinoth> Any h@ckers here???????
[05:47] <dak0> vinoth: Yea I am hacker.
[05:54] <malkauns> in 12.04 is it possible to remove the the top panel on the secondary display?
[05:55]  * Dreadtower is away: Possibly not at the keyboard right now
[05:56] <Eriq> malkauns: yes
[05:56] <Tryy3> is there any command that can free up useless stuff on your hard drive?
[05:56] <malkauns> Eriq, how?
[05:56] <Eriq> Tryy3: Depends what u think is useless
[05:56] <Eriq> malkauns: try set the other screen as primary.
[05:57] <malkauns> did that, doesnt work
[05:57] <Eriq> malkauns: I think you can move the little box in screensettings
[05:57] <Eriq> So try to change side with em.
[05:57] <Tryy3> Erealz i dont know, my 30gb just went out and i dont got access to the server computer atm so i cant use any gui based program to get more memory from my hdd so my best chance is to delete some useless stuff
[05:58] <wifioregon> Is there anyway to sort current installed packages by how much size they take up? I'm trying to clean up space. Was using bleachbit but having lots of bugs. Is there a good alternative to bleachbit?
[05:59] <wmorri> Hi I am wondering how to change the directory that vsftp logs me into?
[05:59] <Tryy3> Eriq i dont know, my 30gb just went out and i dont got access to the server computer atm so i cant use any gui based program to get more memory from my hdd so my best chance is to delete some useless stuff (sorry i highlighted wrong person :D)
[06:07] <wmorri> Hi I am wondering how to change the directory that vsftp logs me into?
[06:08] <Cantide> after updating 12.04 the other day, my USB devices no longer work upon booting unless i unplug them and plug them back in
[06:08] <wifioregon> wmorri:  check /home/ftp
[06:08] <Cantide> has anyone else had this problem?
[06:08] <wmorri> thank you
[06:08] <wifioregon> wmorri:  thats the default directory
[06:08] <wifioregon> wmorri:  so use:  cd /home/ftp
[06:09] <wmorri> it says that it doesn't exist
[06:10] <wmorri> I need to have my ftp open to /var/www folder
[06:10] <wifioregon> wmorri:  check /home/{your_user_name)
[06:10] <wifioregon> wmorri:  oh well then you need to change the settigns
[06:10] <wifioregon> wmorri:  check /home/{your_user_name)/ftp
[06:10] <wifioregon> or
[06:10] <wifioregon> wmorri:  check /home/{your_user_name)/.vftp
[06:11] <wifioregon> oops I meant...
[06:11] <wifioregon> wmorri:  check /home/{your_user_name)/.vsftp
[06:12] <Eriq> Tryy3: Ah ok ;/
[06:12] <wmorri> hmm it is still telling me the directory doesn't exist
[06:13] <wifioregon> wmorri:  well you could do a search for the files that are in that folder and then find it that way
[06:13] <wmorri> wifioregon: that is what i guess I will have to do.
[06:13] <wifioregon> wmorri:  but if you want to change the default directory, I'd look into "configuring vsftp ubunbu"
[06:13] <wifioregon> why use vsftp though?
[06:13] <wmorri> wifioregon: I will look that up. Thanks
[06:14] <wifioregon> when you could use Open-ssh and then use Sftp or scp
[06:14] <wifioregon> which is FTP but encrypted
[06:14] <wifioregon> waaay more secure
[06:14] <wmorri> wifioregon: i guess i just don't know enough about scp so i will have to learn
[06:15] <mick_> does anyone have some experience with ubuntu studio?
[06:15] <wifioregon> wmorri:  Its just as easy to use as FTP but WAY better
[06:15] <wifioregon> wmorri:  FTP is quiet insecure. Its unencrypted
[06:16] <wmorri> wifioregon, I guess that  i will look that up and do some learning on it.
[06:16] <Cantide> scp is quite easy - i had never used it, googled it and was able to achieve what i wanted to in a few minutes
[06:16] <wifioregon> wmorri:  I would. Have you checked our http://www.ubuntuguides.org?
[06:16] <wifioregon> Ubuntu Guides has guides for just about everything. Really well done and easy to use
[06:17] <wifioregon> it has a whole networking section even
[06:17] <wifioregon> wmorri:  and it has the proper commands on how to setup serveres
[06:18] <wmorri> I will have a look at it right now. Thanks you very much wifioregon.
[06:18] <codefyre> wifioregon: i think its ubuntuguide.org not guides
[06:18] <lie> 啦拉拉阿里立
[06:18] <Guest79704> 虾米
[06:19] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[06:55] <tapas> somewhere along the updates in the last two weeks there must have been one that causes my keyboard to get "semi-stuck"
[06:55] <tapas> once i press a key on the keyboard, mouse AND keyboard lock up..
[06:55] <tapas> some keyboard events get lost, and after 3 or 4 seconds the remaining keyboard events are delivered and the mouse gets unstuck
[06:56] <tapas> this happens after ca. 1 day of use now regularly
[06:56] <tapas> only a reboot fixes it..
[06:57] <tapas> no errors show up in dmesg
[06:57] <tapas> no errors are shown in /proc/interrupts..
[06:58] <sgxxyx> I use ubuntu 12.04 and I want to use root to login in .what should I do?
[06:58] <tapas> i'm completely lost..
[06:58] <tapas> sgxxyx: edit /etc/passwd
[06:58] <tapas> sgxxyx: and enable the root user
[06:59] <sgxxyx> tapas: Thankyou .
[06:59] <hipitihop> I have created a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d , DRIVERS=="usbhid", ATTRS{idVendor}=="15b7", OPTIONS=="ignore_device" but when I unplug and replug, usb-devices still shows it
[07:01] <xangua> !noroot | tapas
[07:02] <sgxxyx> !root
[07:02] <rkhshm> I'm trying to compile a kernel module and here is my Makefile and i get that following error.. What could be the reason? http://pastie.org/4926226
[07:03] <tapas> rkhshm: a file is missing
[07:04] <tapas> rkhshm: you are probably using the wrong kernel headers
[07:05] <rkhshm> tapas: linkage.h ? I have that under /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/build/include has linkage.h
[07:05] <rkhshm> tapas: also I'm using http://www.faqs.org/docs/kernel/x204.html as a reference to learn and i'm following that
[07:05] <tapas> rkhshm: but not asm/linkage.h
[07:05] <rkhshm> could that be very old.
[07:06] <rkhshm> right.. there is no asm/linkage.h
[07:06] <rkhshm> does that mean i need to modify the path?
[07:06] <tapas> rkhshm: oh i don't know how to do it correctly. you just asked, what went wrong ;D
[07:06] <rkhshm> tapas: ha ha.. i understand that a file is missing.
[07:07] <rkhshm> i wanted the solution ;-)
[07:07] <tapas> rkhshm: but i guess.. try a find /lib/modules/ -iname "linkage.h"
[07:07] <tapas> to see where it lurks..
[07:07] <auronandace> rkhshm: you ought to update your kernel to the latest in the repo: 3.2.0-31
[07:08] <hipitihop> Can someone help me with getting udev to ignore my device. I have created a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d , DRIVERS=="usbhid", ATTRS{idVendor}=="15b7", OPTIONS=="ignore_device" but when I unplug and replug, usb-devices still shows it. See detail device listings here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265111/
[07:09] <rkhshm> this is interesting..
[07:09] <rkhshm> i find linkage in asm-generic/ dir but find is unable to show it.
[07:09] <tapas> rkhshm: btw:
[07:09] <tapas> i think you might need a complete kernel source to build some modules
[07:09] <tapas> i mean the complete kernel source tree.
[07:10] <tapas> IIRC
[07:10] <bonno> what is wrong with a procces called tumblerd in xubuntu 12.04  whenever i mount a volume it consumes (most of the times after the drive has been mounted) a lot amount of CPU (80 %)
[07:10] <rkhshm> nothing like that is mentioned in the URL i pasted
[07:10]  * hipitihop popping out to shops and hopes someone has an answer when he returns
[07:11] <rkhshm> and i would only need the headers for the version i'm building against.. AFAIK and have read
[07:11] <bonno> any help?
[07:11] <tapas> rkhshm: hmmm...
[07:12] <rkhshm> asm-generic/linkage is under /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/build/include so -isystem /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/build/include should work
[07:13] <tapas> rkhshm: interesting: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-29/arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h
[07:13] <tapas> these are architecture specific linkage.h files..
[07:13] <rkhshm> yea-isystem /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/build/includeh
[07:13] <rkhshm> yeah
[07:13] <rkhshm> that is what i wans about to say
[07:13] <rkhshm> i think i need to modify the path
[07:14] <tapas> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9492559/module-compiling-asm-linkage-h-file-not-found
[07:17] <tapas> rkhshm: and this: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt
[07:17] <rkhshm> tapas: that what i saw for help
[07:18] <rkhshm> ;)
[07:24] <tapas> rkhshm: interesting
[07:24] <tapas> rkhshm: i just tried following the steps:
[07:24] <tapas> rkhshm: http://pastesite.com/45258
[07:25] <tapas> rkhshm: remove the /include from this line:
[07:25] <tapas> INCLUDE  :=  -isystem /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include
[07:25] <rkhshm> that is interesting indeed
[07:26] <tapas> http://pastesite.com/45259
[07:26] <tapas> this is the makefile i copied verbatim..
[07:26] <rkhshm> hmm.. let me try
[07:27] <tapas> i wonder what the warning is about.. probably because hello.c i 0 bytes size here ;D
[07:27] <tapas> i just touched it..
[07:29] <rkhshm> tapas: hmm
[07:30] <tapas> rkhshm: yep, if i put some content into it, it compiles without warning
[07:30] <rkhshm> hmm..
[07:31] <tapas> rkhshm: hmmm, hmm :D
[07:31] <tapas> does it work for you with the verbatim copied Makefile?
[07:32] <tapas> rkhshm: or rather asked differently: why does your makefile differ from the one posted at the link you posted?
[07:32] <tapas> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/build-linux-kernel-module-against-installed-kernel-source-tree.html
[07:32] <rkhshm> what
[07:32] <rkhshm> no way
[07:32] <tapas> the makefile you posted here:
[07:32] <tapas> http://pastie.org/4926226
[07:33] <tapas> is different from the one in the link above
[07:34] <tapas> rkhshm: erm, actually, i'm stupid..
[07:35] <tapas> that link is the result of me googling "how to build a kernel module"
[07:35] <tapas> :D
[07:36] <tapas> rkhshm: anyways, following this link worked here.. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/build-linux-kernel-module-against-installed-kernel-source-tree.html so maybe go from there
[07:36] <rkhshm> that is not working for me
[07:36] <rkhshm> :(
[07:36] <rkhshm> hang on one moment
[07:36] <tapas> rkhshm: please show the makefile and the output again..
[07:36] <rkhshm> one se
[07:36] <rkhshm> sec
[07:37] <dak0> Hello, how can I add/remove applications in Ubuntu like in Windows?
[07:37] <tapas> dak0: you can't
[07:37] <tapas> dak0: you can add and remove them. but not like in windows..
[07:37] <dak0> So I can't uninstall applications I don't want anymore ?
[07:38] <auronandace> !software | dak0
[07:38] <tapas> dak0: you can, but it works differently than in windows
[07:38] <dak0> Ok thnaks
[07:39] <dak0> Where can I find linux gaming community?
[07:40] <tapas> dak0: check quakelive, xonotic/nexuiz, warsow, etc..projects..
[07:40] <rkhshm> tapas: http://pastie.org/4926371
[07:40] <dak0> Actually Ubuntu because other versions of linux are unknown for me
[07:40] <tapas> dak0: most of these projects have forums and or IRC channels
[07:41] <auronandace> !games | dak0
[07:41] <tapas> rkhshm: that makefile still looks different from http://pastesite.com/45259
[07:41] <tapas> rkhshm: why don't you try to copy the makefile verbatim?
[07:42] <dak0> Thanks
[07:42] <tapas> and see if it works, before trying to change it?
[07:42] <rkhshm> tapas: no no.. i follwed this link to write the Makefile that's why is different http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/build-linux-kernel-module-against-installed-kernel-source-tree.html
[07:43] <tapas> rkhshm: yeah, that link has a makefile in it.. [after "Append the following text"]
[07:43] <tapas> that's the one i used and it works for me
[07:43] <rkhshm> file /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/build
[07:43] <rkhshm> /lib/modules/3.2.0-26-generic/build: symbolic link to `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-26-generic'
[07:44] <rkhshm> that looks interesting
[07:44] <rkhshm> wondering if its the same at your end?
[07:44] <rkhshm> tapas: http://pastie.org/4926379 also that error ??
[07:45] <mao> How can i get a exit code of a command in if test statement
[07:46] <bekks> Like always: $?
[07:46] <elche> https://pastee.org/sbrde
[07:47] <sgdiaperboy> what is this channel?
[07:47] <sgdiaperboy> anyone here stay in singapore?
[07:47] <elche> gay sex
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> sgdiaperboy  ubuntu support
[07:48] <sgdiaperboy> huh?
[07:48] <sgdiaperboy> what does ubuntu stay for?
[07:48] <sgdiaperboy> stand for
[07:48] <ubuntunoob> Can anyone try to help me with a question
[07:48] <bekks> sgdiaperboy: It is a linux distribution, an operating system.
[07:48] <MonkeyDust> sgdiaperboy  how did you get here?
[07:48] <WHOisAmanda> what's up noob
[07:48] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Please just ask your question.
[07:48] <bazhang> WHOisAmanda, thats never welcome here
[07:48] <mao> bekks: That is a way。but if i want to test a command's exit code if one statement,just like if ...;then...
[07:49] <WHOisAmanda> that's the name
[07:49] <ubuntunoob> If I install beta would I have to reinstall on release date or just up date
[07:49] <bazhang> WHOisAmanda, no it's not. use tab complete for the actual nickname
[07:49] <bazhang> !tab | WHOisAmanda
[07:50] <bekks> mao: command; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then ...; else ....; fi
[07:50] <WHOisAmanda> never knew that but i du now thanks
[07:50] <rkhshm> tapas: i've done exactly like what is given in the URL you pasted..
[07:50] <rkhshm> hmm
[07:51] <ubuntunoob> So guess no one knows?
[07:51] <bekks> ubuntunoob: You dont have to reinstall, you can just update.
[07:51] <tapas> rkhshm: really? show your current makefile :D
[07:51] <ubuntunoob> Thanks
[07:51] <rkhshm> ok
[07:51] <bazhang> !final | ubuntunoob
[07:51] <IdleOne> ubuntunoob: 12.10 questions and support in #ubuntu+1 but no you won't have to reinstall after release
[07:52] <rkhshm> tapas: http://pastie.org/4926401
[07:52] <ubuntunoob> Thanks for the great info
[07:53] <tapas> rkhshm: that still looks different from this: http://pastesite.com/45259
[07:53] <ubuntunoob> I just didn't want to get comfy with it and have to reinstall
[07:53] <dak0> dak0 !gaming
[07:53] <rkhshm> tapas: please dwd this http://www.cyberciti.biz/files/hello-linux-module.zip
[07:53] <dak0> !gaming
[07:53] <bekks> ubuntunoob: You dont have to.
[07:53] <dak0> !games
[07:53] <tapas> rkhshm: yeah, i didn't download the zip..
[07:54] <tapas> rkhshm: just try the makefile i pasted..
[07:54] <rkhshm> tapas: the Makefile is exactly as in the zip file
[07:54] <tapas> it works here..
[07:54] <rkhshm> i tried that also
[07:54] <ubuntunoob> Yea I know now thanks
[07:54] <rkhshm> its not working here
[07:54] <rkhshm> :)
[07:54] <tapas> show the error with that makefile, please..
[07:56] <rkhshm> tapas: http://pastie.org/4926401
[07:56] <rkhshm> thats exactly what you pasted
[07:59] <rkhshm> tapas: found the solution
[07:59] <rkhshm> you will not believe it
[07:59] <tapas> rkhshm: :D
[07:59] <tapas> tell
[08:00] <tapas> rkhshm: wrong kernel headers?
[08:00] <rkhshm> tapas: sometimes its best to not be very descriptive with the location where files are stored.. STUPID STUPID
[08:00] <rkhshm> tapas: no no no..
[08:00] <tapas> whitespace
[08:00] <tapas> in the directory name?
[08:01] <rkhshm> tapas: the scripts were in "Linux kernel devs"/scripts/  ; I moved it to linuxKern/scripts/ and it worked
[08:01] <rkhshm> tapas: yeah dir name
[08:01] <rkhshm> bloody hell
[08:02] <mao> bekks: it works, but seems to be a little verbiage. Fine, it works well :)
[08:04] <tapas> rkhshm: i guess quoting the directory name might work, too
[08:04] <tapas> i.e. instead of
[08:04] <tapas>         $(MAKE) -C $(KDIR) SUBDIRS=$(PWD) modules
[08:04] <tapas> this:
[08:04] <tapas>         $(MAKE) -C $(KDIR) SUBDIRS="$(PWD)" modules
[08:05] <rkhshm> tapas: there is no /var/log/messages at all
[08:05] <rkhshm> how's that?
[08:05] <tapas> rkhshm: did you modprobe the module?
[08:05] <rkhshm> yeah
[08:06] <tapas> rkhshm: i tried with: fps@olive:~$ sudo insmod hello.ko
[08:06] <tapas> rkhshm: and lo and behold:
[08:07] <tapas> [ 4542.399373] init_module() called
[08:07] <tapas> in dmesg
[08:07] <rkhshm> i did the same.. lsmod |grep hello gives me info
[08:07] <rkhshm> got it
[08:08] <rkhshm> but dmesg does take the input from /var/log/message right?
[08:08] <tapas> rkhshm: nope..
[08:08] <rkhshm> hmm..
[08:08] <tapas> from the manpage:
[08:08] <tapas>        dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer
[08:08] <tapas> /var/log/messages is filled by some logging daemon..
[08:08] <tapas> i don't even have that file on my system..
[08:09] <rkhshm> ok thanks for your help
[08:09] <tapas> rkhshm: you're welcome. it was informative for me, too :D
[08:09] <rkhshm> tapas:  that was nice then
[08:10] <gordonjcp> in the file browser if I've got my camera phone connected, there are two bars at the top of the file window saying "The medium contains digital photos" and "These files are on a digital audio player"
[08:11] <gordonjcp> is there a way to remove those bars?  I don't want to use shotwell or rhythmbox, ever
[08:11] <gordonjcp> I do want the space back in my window though
[08:11] <tapas> gordonjcp: ugh, using gnome? ;D
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Unity
[08:12] <tapas> isn't unity based on the idea, that you can't configure anything?
[08:12] <gordonjcp> not really, no
[08:12] <gordonjcp> there ought to be a way to hide those though
[08:12] <tapas> sorry, i shut up now.. but i have given up on gnome shell and unity a while ago..
[08:12] <gordonjcp> yeah
[08:12] <gordonjcp> I tried KDE but there *really* is no way to configure anything
[08:13] <gordonjcp> everything you do in KDE appears to be accompanied by earsplittingly loud bongs and tweets, with no obvious way to shut it up
[08:13] <tapas> gordonjcp: aah :D
[08:13] <tapas> gordonjcp: that's a simple one..
[08:13] <gordonjcp> tapas: and have you seen the KDE control panel?  How are you supposed to do anything with that?
[08:14] <Mechdave> gordonjcp, have you tried looking in the gconf-editor?
[08:14] <gordonjcp> Mechdave: yeah, it's just as bad as the KDE control panel
[08:14] <tapas> system settings -> notifications -> player settings -> "no audio output"
[08:14] <tapas> i wonder why anyone in the world would want his system to go bleep on every mouse vclick
[08:15] <tapas> still every OS in the world ships with these on by default..
[08:15] <tapas> gordonjcp: i agree though, that the kde system settings are a mess, too
[08:16] <tapas> gordonjcp: too bad gnome 2 was replaced by these other abominations ;D
[08:16] <tapas> gordonjcp: it was bearable..
[08:16] <gordonjcp> I prefer Unity to Gnome 2
[08:16] <gordonjcp> although I'd prefer if they didn't do the stupid menus along the top thingh
[08:16] <gordonjcp> that's the biggest misfeature stolen from Mac OS
[08:16] <tapas> gordonjcp: i think you can turn that off..
[08:16] <gordonjcp> yeah, I've got it turned off
[08:17] <gordonjcp> it's a bloody stupid idea on the Mac, and it's a bloody stupid idea in Linux
[08:17] <tapas> it's horrible though..
[08:17] <tapas> also the one thing that annoys me the most on the mac..
[08:17] <tapas> :D
[08:17] <gordonjcp> it's an utterly retarded hangover from when the Mac could only run single apps
[08:17] <tapas> it makes focus follows mouse impossible..
[08:18] <m000gle> gordonjcp & tapas ... I think the best thing about a feature like that is the ability to easily, and by default, be able to turn it on/off
[08:18] <tapas> [for the simple reason that you might cross another window on your way from the window to the menu bar]
[08:18] <m000gle> Sadly, its the one Unity feature I miss using my customized Gnome-Shell DE
[08:18] <tapas> m000gle: yeah, on mac one cannot turn it off...  so one up for unity
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support topic
[08:19] <tapas> one thing that annoys me, too, though, is the OT nazis in otherwise non-busy channels.. ;D
[08:19] <m000gle> tapas: Agreed, now if only Shell could get the option to use it, we would all be happy hahaha :)
 Ok, will do
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> tapas:if everyone would discuss stuff in here..
[08:20] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: in here it's currently quiet
[08:20] <gordonjcp> and we are at least tangentially discussing Ubuntu and its support
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp:still it remains an ubuntu support channel
[08:20] <gordonjcp> yup
[08:20] <gordonjcp> which is what we're discussing
[08:20] <tapas> i reserve the right to rely on my own judgement when OT chatter is OK or not.. (with 20 years of IRC experience i think that's ok)
[08:20] <gordonjcp> tapas: indeed
[08:21] <gordonjcp> tapas: I don't have as much IRC experience as you
[08:21] <gordonjcp> possibly only maybe 18 years
[08:21] <tapas> gordonjcp: :D
[08:21] <gordonjcp> I've been using IRC as long as I've been using Linux, pretty near
[08:21] <tapas> gordonjcp: yeah, i discovered linux by going to a CCC in hamburg 20 years ago. and my first experience with unix was sitting in  front of a terminal with an IRC client..
[08:22] <tapas> next to my buddy.. we joined a channel and annoyed everyone..
[08:22] <gordonjcp> tapas: my first experience of Unix was on some horking great Sun box at uni, in the early 90s
[08:22] <m000gle> lotuspsychje: Is there an official Ubuntu Chat channel, or something similar, for regular discussion?  Like, Ubuntu related, but not support per se.
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> !ot | m000gle
[08:22] <gordonjcp> m000gle: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:22] <m000gle> Cool, Thanks!
[08:23] <gordonjcp> m000gle: where I suggest tapas and I take ourselves off to, so we don't get accused of being deliberately disruptive ;-)
[08:23] <gordonjcp> tapas: until I got my own 386 that would run Linux I spent a lot of time poking about on a purloined account on a SCO box at Aberdeen Uni
[08:29] <brady> ive noticed that every time i restart, my volume resets to around 75%
[08:29] <brady> is there some way i can not have this happen?
[08:31] <ubuntunoob> Anyone install Ubuntu 12.10 on gtx 480
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> brady: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969935
[08:31] <ubuntunoob> I'm having white screen
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> !details | ubuntunoob
[08:32] <ubuntunoob> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.10
[08:33] <ubuntunoob> But after I boot it to install I get a white screen
[08:33] <glebihan> !quantal | ubuntunoob
[08:36] <brady> i appreciate the help, but the link provided was not a match to what im experiencing
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> brady:not sure mate sorry
[08:37] <brady> its not that i cant hear audio at 75 percent, its that it seems to frequently reset back to around that amount
[08:38] <brady>  im always going into the volume control, raising it up, only to have it reset back at some point
[08:38] <brady> so, cronic low volume
[08:46] <ubuntunoob> I made it alive
[08:47] <ubuntunoob> So can I turn off amazon
[08:47] <WarOfTheNerd> ubuntunoob, what version of Ubuntu?
[08:48] <ubuntunoob> 12.10 beta 2
[08:48] <WarOfTheNerd> You'll have to ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <Chiko> does mono work on ubuntu with linq support?
[08:52] <linux_fans> I am studying the  src of coreutils,so i want to build the src alone such as mkdir.c.But I failed,Does anyone know the cmd which builds the mkdir.c?
[08:54] <mathfreak> hmm... has anyone tried the CAD software on Linux?
[08:55] <worm> CAD? GIMP+Scribus=CAD...
[08:55] <WarOfTheNerd> No
[08:55] <WarOfTheNerd> DraftSight
[08:56] <WarOfTheNerd> mathfreak, http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/overview/ <-- there's a solution, it's free for individuals
[08:56] <mathfreak> cool, I'll check it out.
[08:56] <Hatori> helo arif
[08:58] <gsned> Hi anyone able to help me with my network configuration?  I'm banging my head off a brick wall here
[08:58] <gordonjcp> !help | gsned
[08:59] <Hatori> gsned, describe the problem detaily
[08:59] <[x]> https://www.facebook.com/
[08:59] <aaa111> hey guys.. i am trying to fix a messed up laptop..it was not booting due to a bad disk and asked to do fsck manually.Once i ran fsck manually..i was prompted to delete many files..now many packages are broken due to missing files.Is there a way to reinstall those packages and get those files back?
[09:00] <jdghkhf> hey guys when i want to copy a file i click on copy but paste is not available
[09:00] <jdghkhf> why?
[09:00] <MonkeyDust> jdghkhf  try ctrl p
[09:01] <aaa111> jdghkhf: you may be trying to paste on a readonly folder..can u try pasting on some other folder?
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> v, not p
[09:01] <jdghkhf> ohh
[09:01] <Chiko> when installing a package with unmet dependecies is there a way to have it automatically retrieve the required packages or do i have to do it manually?
[09:01] <jdghkhf> now it worked
[09:01] <jdghkhf> thanks guys
[09:01] <LeMike1> hi there. I search for an behaviour but only get exception-threads shown in google. -- In the terminal I like to have tab shown all options on first press and iterating over them with each following press. whats might be an apt for that?
[09:02] <gsned> ok thanks.. here's the deal.  Moved house no internet now for 2 months until ISP dig up cable in road.  Neighbour kindly gave network key to her wifi only thing is signal too weak.  Anyways I have a laptop set up on windowsill - managed to set up internet connection sharing on it which then feeds the internet connected into a router in my house that "boosts" it to rest of building.  So… when clients connect via wifi they are assigned IP addresses in the forma
[09:02] <gsned> t 10.42.0.XX with the default route as 10.42.0.1  I have just wiped my "server" which all my clients connect to in my house that streams movies etc to the HTPC's and holds things like samba shares etc.  I want to continue to use my old ip rage and use that server as the DHCP server with ip's formatted in the 192.168.1.X and the server address being 192.168.1.1.  Haven't even managed to set up a static IP on the server as 192.168.1.1.  Clueless.  THink it might
[09:02] <gsned> be something to do with setting a static route? not sure
[09:02] <FloodBot1> gsned: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:04] <aaa111> LeMike1: cycling options is default in zsh shell i think..not sure how to do it in ubuntu terminal..can u google for cycling tab options in bash?
[09:08] <Patel> what is the suitable Virtualization for ubuntu
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Patel: virtualbox
[09:09] <Patel> i would like to install on my ubuntu
[09:09] <WarOfTheNerd> Patel, Ubuntu as a host?  VMWare
[09:09] <Patel> yes
[09:09] <WarOfTheNerd> VirtualBox taints the kernel, VMWare does not
[09:10] <Patel> so what is preferable for me ? vbox or VMware
[09:10] <tapas> WarOfTheNerd: isn't virtualbox open source?
[09:10] <tapas> is the license incompatible?
[09:10] <WarOfTheNerd> tapas, it is but it's TAINTED_CRAP flaged
[09:10] <buc> hola
[09:10] <WarOfTheNerd> tapas, the Linux kernel developers on LKML flagged it as being crap and now it taints the kernel
[09:11] <tapas> WarOfTheNerd: ah ok..
[09:11] <Patel> so what is preferable for me ? vbox or VMware
[09:11] <WarOfTheNerd> Patel, VMWare Player ideally
[09:11] <Hatori> virtualbox
[09:12] <WarOfTheNerd> Patel, it's free of charge, supports 3D and doesn't taint the kernel, unlike VirtualBox
[09:12] <tapas> how can vmware not taint the kernel? it's closed source, no? and it uses kernel modules, too?
[09:12] <WarOfTheNerd> tapas, the kernel module is open source
[09:12] <buc> porke tengo problemas con una alfa con ubuntu , alguien me puede decir ¿?
[09:12] <tapas> WarOfTheNerd: oh ok :D
[09:13] <buc> detectarla la detecta pero  njo  me deja  navegar
[09:13] <Patel> ok, i'm going to install VMware player
[09:13] <Patel> tnx
[09:13] <[x]> how to enable universe'
[09:13] <WarOfTheNerd> tapas, basically vmware-vmx runs setuid root and has a thin kernel module which is open source; so it doesn't taint.  Surprising eh? :P
[09:13] <tapas> WarOfTheNerd: indeed
[09:13] <buc> sorry
[09:14] <WarOfTheNerd> tapas, I can't wait for KVM to have full 3D and decent USB support... then VMWare can go in the bin ^.^
[09:15] <LeMike1> aaa111: tab in ubuntu terminal is only cycling OR enlist what's possible. not both :/  so I stay with listing the possibilities or using zsh
[09:16] <[x]> ultim00se
[09:16] <aaa111> LeMike1: do u use terminal daily? zsh has many other features too..u will find it useful
[09:17] <Hatori> aa
[09:17] <bekks> WarOfTheNerd: KVM actually already has it. :P
[09:18] <Hatori> Aaa111, what best features of zsh compared other terminal?
[09:18] <WarOfTheNerd> bekks, when it does it for gaming in Windows, KVM will be my hero :D
[09:18] <LeMike1> yee, often. got to figure out how to put my bash_aliases in there then I will test it ;) thanks aaa111
[09:18] <ArcaneWater> Hello, i just wanted to install ubuntu and recived Failed to read sector 0x5xxxxx on cd0 after i press install this happense. DVD is new which i burned 12.10 version, and i checked md5sum.
[09:18] <ArcaneWater> Anything else what could be wrong?
[09:19] <bekks> WarOfTheNerd: It does. KVM supports the passthrough of PCI/PCIe devices. So you can pass through your graphics adapter and your USB controller to a vm.
[09:19] <WarOfTheNerd> bekks, does it need anything special in terms of processor/mobo support?
[09:19] <aaa111> LeMike1: look for other peoples zshrc configuration..will have many useful things..most of ur bash aliases will work...
[09:20] <LeMike1> ok
[09:20] <Naynay> hello
[09:21] <Hatori> hello naynay
[09:21] <cfhowlett> Naynay: greetings
[09:21] <Abbas|> guys, can someone please team viewer into my ubuntu and install squid reverse proxy for me? :(
[09:21] <Abbas|> <-- window nab here
[09:22] <Naynay> I just noticed that if I hit the ubuntu button for the application selection, then shut the lid on my latop, then came back later and opened it,... the user login window gets hidden behind the still-present application selection pane
[09:23] <Hatori> abbas|, a lot of people here can do it ... But i think'better you should do it by yourself...it was a great learning
[09:23] <Abbas|> Hatori can i roll back to pre-installation state?
[09:24] <Abbas|> incase i mess up the squid settings
[09:24] <Abbas|> and i dont want to uninstall ubuntu to try again
[09:24] <ArcaneWater> Hello, i just wanted to install ubuntu and recived Failed to read sector 0x5xxxxx on cd0 after i press install this happense. DVD is new which i burned 12.10 version, and i checked md5sum...What could be wrong?
[09:24] <buc> I have problems with an alpha, someone can tell me the ubuntu porke detected but will not let me navigate
[09:24] <gordonjcp> ArcaneWater: failed to burn properly?
[09:24] <gordonjcp> ArcaneWater: use a USB stick
[09:25] <Hatori> abbas|, yes, you can purge your squid completely includes your config ... But, i notice, maybe better you ,make a note what are you have been doing
[09:25] <ArcaneWater> gordonjcp i tryed USB stick, with 12.10 but when it come to i should choose installed them by side (Dual boot-already windows on it) it just says thath there was no OS Detected...and it only give me to format it and few other options
[09:25] <Abbas|> hatori, do i need to trigger some 'state' store, bfore i start instaling squid?
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ArcaneWater: there is no functional difference between booting from USB and booting from optical media, it's just that USB is much more reliable
[09:26] <buc> I use ubuntu 11.10 and alpha is a AWUS036H
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ArcaneWater: also, since it's 12.10, ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:26] <ArcaneWater> gordonjcp is there anything else to make boot usb or is only possible with Lili?
[09:26] <Hatori> abbas|, commonly not needed
[09:27] <Abbas|> ok cool
[09:27] <Abbas|> Hatori im confused between so many tutoralis?
[09:27] <Abbas|> do i need to make ssl certs
[09:27] <Abbas|> to be able to allow port 443 transmission from my tv -> laptop (squid) -> vpn
[09:28] <Abbas|> i tried with tiny proxy etc but my tv seems to detect
[09:28] <Hatori> abbas|, focus on one tutor..and try it on trial server before placing it on productions...
[09:28] <Abbas|> or well, sony on the other end detects
[09:28] <Abbas|> when i use a proxy.
[09:28] <Abbas|> hmmm
[09:29] <Hatori> Abbas|, for learning purposes, ssl maybe was setup if you have deep knowledge on confug them
[09:29] <Abbas|> Hatori , all i want is , my tv be able to transmist port 443 transmission via the proxy
[09:29] <Abbas|> without the tv or the server on the other end detecting the proxy
[09:30] <Hatori> config
[09:30] <Hatori> abbas|, ssl usually needed for secure communication
[09:30] <Abbas|> i dont think if tv uses ssl. i think its https
[09:30] <Abbas|> on port 443
[09:30] <Abbas|> thats what i saw in squid logs
[09:30] <Abbas|> even https from mobile -> squid -> works
[09:31] <Abbas|> https site, i..e google etc. but the tv refuses to connect via it
[09:31] <Hatori> thats mean for https, http over secure channel, maybe ssl/tls
[09:31] <Abbas|> oh
[09:31] <Abbas|> so i DO need ssl then?
[09:32] <Abbas|> but i heard, proxies modify the packets going via ssl, which means
[09:32] <Abbas|> man in middle. that is eaisly detectable on server end
[09:32] <Hatori> abbas|, i think you need setup on
[09:32] <Abbas|> can my proxy simple pass over ssl packets, while being invisible?
[09:32] <Abbas|> i know that it was possible on ccproxy on windows 7. but ccproxy fails to work now
[09:32] <WarOfTheNerd> Abbas|, if a proxy intercepts SSL and tries to decrypt it, the user will know
[09:32] <WarOfTheNerd> as the cert won't match the site
[09:33] <Abbas|> WarOfTheNerd , yeah thats why i want it to be invisilbe
[09:33] <Abbas|> and just pass on packets, without interfereing
[09:33] <[x]> WarOfTheNerd: You will have to enable component called 'universe' ? how to enable ?
[09:33] <Hatori> but, we know, proxy over ssl was hard to configure
[09:33] <WarOfTheNerd> Abbas|, proxies do that normally
[09:33] <WarOfTheNerd> [x], it's now enabled by default
[09:33] <[x]> no
[09:34] <[x]> WarOfTheNerd: The program 'finger@' can be found in the following packages:
[09:34] <[x]>  * ucspi-tcp (You will have to enable component called 'universe')
[09:34] <[x]>  * ucspi-tcp-ipv6 (You will have to enable component called 'universe')
[09:34] <[x]> Tryy3: apt-get install <selected package>
[09:34] <[x]> ?
[09:34] <WarOfTheNerd> [x], edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <WarOfTheNerd> [x], but universe is normally enabled by default
[09:35] <yoojin-is-lonely> In a sentence, I am looking for somebody knowledgable in web servers to help me think through the software I would need to put together a simple, nondescript personal webpage blog/journal. Just for a few close people to keep dibs on me when im unable to express myself socially.
[09:35] <[x]> ok WarOfTheNerd  thanks
[09:35] <WarOfTheNerd> yoojin-is-lonely, apache, php, mysql and a copy of wordpress
[09:35] <gordonjcp> yoojin-is-lonely: is there a good reason why you don't want to use one of the many free-as-in-beer blog sites out there?
[09:36] <Hatori> yoojin-is-lonely, are you want a people to be paid?
[09:36] <WarOfTheNerd> yoojin-is-lonely, or you can use Blogger, which is hosted by Google and is free
[09:36] <buc> hello ¿?
[09:36] <gordonjcp> yoojin-is-lonely: as WarOfTheNerd says, if you are doing this because you want to learn *how* to do it, get Wordpress going
[09:36] <Hatori> hello buc
[09:37] <gordonjcp> yoojin-is-lonely: if you're doing it because you want a quick and easy blog, join Blogger
[09:37] <buc> hator can you help me ?¿?
[09:37] <buc> hatori *
[09:38] <Hatori> buc, i don't know, what is your problem?
[09:38] <gordonjcp> !help | buc
 I have problems with an alpha, someone can tell me the ubuntu porke detected but will not let me navigate
 I use ubuntu 11.10 and alpha is a AWUS036H
[09:39] <Hatori> what is alpha you mean?
[09:39] <buc>  a AWUS036H
[09:40] <[x]> WarOfTheNerd: how to create one more root account?
[09:41] <yoojin-is-lonely> Is anyone interested in hearing the idea?
[09:41] <ardchoille> AWUS036H = USB Wireless WiFi network Adapter
[09:41] <WarOfTheNerd> [x], add user to sudo group
[09:41] <Hatori> yooijin-is-lonely sure
[09:41] <buc> yes ardchoille
[09:42] <[x]> it doesnot seems to look like real root even at the end this appears "$" instead of "#"
[09:43] <[x]> hatori !!!
[09:43] <aaa111> guys, anyways to list packages whose files have been deleted?
[09:43] <[x]> visudo
[09:44] <WarOfTheNerd> [x], you use sudo to gain root privs
[09:44] <Hatori> [x], what you say?
[09:44] <WarOfTheNerd> [x], after you've added a user to sudo group, it can use sudo to get root privileges
[09:44] <[x]> ok WarOfTheNerd
[09:47] <Hatori> aaa111, what you mean with has been deleted?
[09:48] <aaa111> Hatori: i did a manual fsck.. some files seem to be deleted.. apt-get triggers are failing due to broken python
[09:49] <fgh> Lubutu12.04 (LXDE) --- How to customize pcmanfm auto-actions when events happen?
[09:49] <Hatori> aaa111, thats bad ... You should install it by hand... Manually
[09:50] <aaa111> Hatori: you mean install python from source?
[09:51] <fgh> autoplay with LXDE! How do customize performed actions?
[09:51] <bekks> aaa111: No. Manually. By extracting all files from the .deb and copying them to where they would have been installed.
[09:51] <Hatori> aaa111, no... go to your apt cache directory, and if you lucky, there are a lot .deb filese here,install it by hand with dpkg
[09:52] <bekks> aaa111: Use dpkg -l to get the exact version you need, and then download the deb manually from the mirror, and install them manually.
[09:53] <Hatori> bekks, if we in lucky, there are some packages needed in apt cache dir
[09:53] <aaa111> bekks: Hatori: ok .. right now trying to see which file is missing ..if at all
[09:55] <[x]> Hatori: is u have basic command collection with its comments
[09:56] <Hatori> [x], what you mean ? I dont collect them :d thats useless
[09:57] <[x]> oh
[09:57] <melissublime1> hi
[09:57] <melissublime1>  i have install  multiget. how can i download a mediafire rar file? i use chrome
[09:57] <[x]> i often forget commands so ust copy it in notepad
[09:58] <Hatori> [x], read rtfm, it should help you so mich
[09:58] <[x]> rtfm ? what is that Hatori
[09:59] <melissublime1> Hatori: hi again :)
[09:59] <melissublime1> yes what is rtfm?
[09:59] <Hatori> [x], read the fucking manual ....
[09:59] <[x]> :| oh
[09:59] <Hatori> Mellissublimer1, usually with multiget and pass url you want to download
[09:59] <cfhowlett> [x]: Read the Fine Manual
[10:00] <[x]> :S
[10:00] <melissublime1> i have been read that.it wasn't really useful
[10:00] <ArmyMan007> hey everyone.. I'm installing ubuntu 12.04 to a single disk of 500GB... what should be my partitions and mount point?
[10:00] <melissublime1> and i have copied the url
[10:00] <bekks> !layout | ArmyMan007
[10:01] <bekks> hm :(
[10:01] <melissublime1> it didn't worked too
[10:01] <bekks> !partition | ArmyMan007
[10:01] <[x]> brb
[10:01] <Hatori> mellissubline1, i can't help you so much,sorry
[10:02] <ArmyMan007> bekks -> mind giving me a helping hand and not direct me to a page?
[10:02] <[x]> Hatori: you from ?
[10:02] <ArmyMan007> i'm in the installation process and can't use any programs
[10:03] <melissublime1> Hatori:no matter .sorry to make you angry :-[
[10:03] <melissublime1> ArmyMan007: sohow you are writing in pidgin?
[10:03] <fgh> autoplay with LXDE! How can I customize performed actions?
[10:03] <ArmyMan007> melissublime1, got another computer
[10:03] <Hatori> mellissublime1, no,no, i'm not angry...just jokes guys ...
[10:04] <[x]> Hatori: ?check your private .......
[10:05] <ArmyMan007> well? can anyone give a hint out here?
[10:05] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: with what?
[10:06] <bekks> !partition | ArmyMan007
[10:06] <ArmyMan007> hey everyone.. I'm installing ubuntu 12.04 to a single disk of 500GB... what should be my partitions and mount point?
[10:06] <ArmyMan007> bekks, stop sending this... it doesn't help
[10:06] <Hatori> [x], i'm from south east
[10:06] <ArmyMan007> gordonjcp, take a look at my post just now
[10:06] <vlt> ArmyMan007: Depends heavily on your needs.
[10:07] <[x]> i know
[10:07] <bekks> ArmyMan007: It helps a lot. The https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes explains what you want to know, about partition schemes.
[10:07] <Hatori> armyman007, commonly, / and swap was enought
[10:07] <ArmyMan007> the purpose is to create an HTPC
[10:07] <[x]> Hatori: japan ?
[10:07] <ArmyMan007> and using Ubuntu 12.04 as the only system on that laptop
[10:08] <[x]> Hatori: swap this memory for what ?
[10:08] <ArmyMan007> bekks, it doesn't fit with what I want to do... it gives you several schemes, non for an ubuntu ONLY laptop
[10:08] <Hatori> [x], no... Exactly, from south east asia
[10:09] <bekks> ArmyMan007: First example: Basic Partitioning Scheme for a 2TB Desktop HDD -- thats fits for an Ubuntu only computer.
[10:09] <Hatori> [x], if you know pagefile.sys on windows, that compparable thing
[10:09] <ArmyMan007> bekks, it doesn't: it leaves me too much space for other OS's
[10:09] <ArmyMan007> don't know how to wisely split everything
[10:09] <bekks> ArmyMan007: It doesnt leave any space for other things than Ubuntu.
[10:09] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: which post?
[10:09] <bekks> ArmyMan007: How much RAM do you have?
[10:10] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: oh, I see it
[10:10] <ArmyMan007> 2GB bekks
[10:10] <ArmyMan007> gordonjcp, got any idea?
[10:10] <gordonjcp> !partition | ArmyMan007
[10:10] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: first link in that, look for "Basic Partitioning Scheme"
[10:10] <ArmyMan007> gordonjcp, T_T
[10:10] <Hatori> !swap
[10:11] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: obviously you don't have 2TB so scale it to suit
[10:11] <bekks> ArmyMan007: Then do it like this: 512M /boot, 4GB swap, 30GB /, 10 GB /, all the rest for /data
[10:11] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: if it's going to be the *only* OS on the disk, make /home as big as possible
[10:11] <bekks> gordonjcp: Which is not a good idea, since personal data do not need that much space.
[10:11] <gordonjcp> bekks: well, what else are you going to do with it?
[10:12] <bekks> gordonjcp: Assigning it to /data
[10:12] <bekks> 99% of "data" have nothing to do with personal data like settings, personal documents, etc.
[10:12] <ArmyMan007> bekks, what should be the mount point for each of them, and what good is /data for?
[10:12] <Hatori> thats dependable on their need
[10:13] <bekks> ArmyMan007: I wrote the mountpoints...
[10:13] <gordonjcp> bekks: I currently have 240GB in ~ ...
[10:13] <bekks> ArmyMan007: Then do it like this: 512M /boot, 4GB swap, 30GB /, 10 GB /home, all the rest for /data
[10:13] <gordonjcp> bekks: that's *without* the SAN mounted
[10:13] <bekks> gordonjcp: I have less than 500M in /home.
[10:13] <bekks> gordonjcp: SAN? or NAS?
[10:13] <gordonjcp> bekks: we obviously work on very different things
[10:13] <gordonjcp> bekks: SAN
[10:13] <ArmyMan007> bekks, can we PM?
[10:14] <gordonjcp> bekks: I have a 120GB NAS but it lives in my van ;-)
[10:14] <bekks> ArmyMan007: We can discuss it in here :)
[10:14] <ArmyMan007> so... 30GB and 10GB use as EXT4?
[10:15] <sasuke> hi all can any one tell me how to search multiple process using pgrep & kill multiple process using pkill cmd
[10:15] <ArmyMan007> use everything except SWAP with EXT4?
[10:15] <bekks> ArmyMan007: Yes.
[10:16] <ArmyMan007> and again, what is DATA useful for?
[10:16] <bekks> gordonjcp: Which SAN do you habe attached?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> bekks: homebrew ATAoE storage shelf
[10:16] <bekks> ArmyMan007: For storing DATA, like your movies, songs, whatever.
[10:16] <bekks> gordonjcp: Ah ok. I'm only dealing with FC SAN :)
[10:16] <gordonjcp> bekks: I'm only running 4TB in it just now but I've got 16TB of disks ordered ;-)
[10:16] <ArmyMan007> and it's all going to appear in a /data folder in the new ubuntu?
[10:17] <bekks> ArmyMan007: correct
[10:17] <gordonjcp> bekks: yeah, I'd love to get some FC stuff, it's getting cheap these days
[10:17] <ArmyMan007> great
[10:17] <ArmyMan007> thanks a bunch :D
[10:17] <ArmyMan007> all are primary right?
[10:17] <bekks> ArmyMan007: No.
[10:17] <ArmyMan007> what would be primary and what would be logical?
[10:18] <bekks> ArmyMan007: /boot is primary, swap too, / too. Then create an extended partition, and create two logical partitions for /home and for /data
[10:18] <Hatori> wew
[10:18] <ArmyMan007> great
[10:18] <ArmyMan007> thanks a bunch :)
[10:18] <ArmyMan007> gonna work on it right now
[10:20] <sasuke> hi all can any one tell me how to search multiple process using pgrep & kill multiple process using pkill cmd
[10:20] <soslan> Hi everyone! I can't write reviews in my language in Software Center. My reviews fall to English while my system language is Ossetic. Can anyone help me?
[10:25] <[x]> JoFo:how to change  ubuntu = desired nick
[10:26] <bekks> [x]: Please rephrase. Which "nick" do you want to change where?
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> [x]  type /nick blah
[10:30] <[x]> ok MonkeyDust
[10:30] <[x]> type /nick ?
[10:30] <[x]> lol
[10:31] <[x]> bekks: root@bt i wanna change that root to desired nick ?
[10:33] <ArmyMan007> hey bekks, for the mount point of /data, what should I select: /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local?
[10:34] <ArmyMan007> !ping
[10:35] <ArmyMan007> hey bekks, for the mount point of /data, what should I select: /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local?
[10:37] <bekks> ArmyMan007: manual selection, "/data".
[10:38] <ArmyMan007> bekks, there is no such option, i've looked through all of the mount points
[10:39] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: what options have you got?  /opt would do
[10:39] <gordonjcp> anything that's not /usr, /var or /home ;-)
[10:39] <gordonjcp> or /boot
[10:39] <bekks> ArmyMan007: There is such an option.
[10:40] <ArmyMan007> gordonjcp, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local?
[10:40] <gordonjcp> I'd go for /srv
[10:40] <bekks> ArmyMan007: No. /data is NOT /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local
[10:40] <ArmyMan007> bekks, nope, still nothing... should i mention that i'm installing the X64 version?
[10:40] <bekks> ArmyMan007: I know there's such an option in x64 version.
[10:40] <gordonjcp> it's intended for server-specific data so if you're going to bung your media files and stuff in there, it makes some sort of warped sense
[10:40] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: it's just a name, it's not hugely important
[10:40] <bekks> Used it a hundred time already.
[10:41] <ArmyMan007> then i seem to be having a problem
[10:41] <ArmyMan007> i can't see it in the mount point
[10:41] <gordonjcp> bekks: I can't see it in x86-64, and I'm at that point in the install
[10:41] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: it's not important, use /srv
[10:41] <gordonjcp> ArmyMan007: with a bit of skill and ingenuity, you can change it later
[10:42] <bekks> gordonjcp: You can assign a user defined mountpoint for every partition since... 6.04, which was the first Ubuntu I've seen.
[10:42] <ArmyMan007> ok... so gordonjcp, in the meantime install it as a /srv with all the GB left on it, then change it l8er with Gparted?
[10:42] <sasuke> hi all can any one tell me how to search multiple process using pgrep & kill multiple process using pkill cmd
[10:42] <bekks> ArmyMan007: You dont have to use gparted to change that later on.
[10:42] <ArmyMan007> bekks, so i should just write /data?
[10:42] <Elvano-> I'm looking to backup my thunderbird mails but there isn't any .thunderbird file in my home directory (yes I'm showing hidden files) Has it been moved in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:43] <bekks> ArmyMan007: Yes...
[10:43] <theadmin> sasuke: Why, "pgrep name" will find all the process ids that match "name"
[10:43] <jrib> Elvano-: maybe ~/.config/ .  If not, use find to search for it
[10:43] <ArmyMan007> bekks, T__T well... better l8er then never
[10:43] <gordonjcp> bekks: I'm not even seeing an option to put in a user-defined one
[10:43] <sasuke> theadmin, i didnt get you
[10:43] <jrib> Elvano-: or ~/.mozilla/
[10:43] <theadmin> sasuke: "pkill name" will kill all processes that match "name", that's what pgrep and pkill are *designed* for
[10:43] <sasuke> theadmin, we will get process id's right
[10:43] <theadmin> sasuke: Right
[10:44] <gordonjcp> bekks: I must admit I'm not looking terribly hard because I'm more keen to just get the thing installed
[10:44] <bekks> gordonjcp: :)
[10:44] <ArmyMan007> so... to sum up: 1GB boot, 4GB swap, 30GB / (all primary), 10GB home and the rest just type "/data" in the mount point and set to go :D
[10:44] <ArmyMan007> right?
[10:44] <Elvano-> .mozilla is present but I didn't see anything besides firefox and addons in it =/ @ jrib
[10:45] <sasuke> theadmin, pkill is only kill one process at a time. its not working if i give multiple names
[10:45] <jrib> Elvano-: I'm just making guesses for you.  I don't actually have thunderbird installed
[10:45] <sasuke> theadmin, i used like this pkill -9 thunderbird, xchat
[10:45] <Elvano-> All help is appriciated, jrib
[10:45] <theadmin> sasuke: Why are you using a comma
[10:46] <theadmin> sasuke: The patterns for pgrep and pkill are extended regexes, so you use it like this: pkill -9 'thunderbird|xchat'
[10:46] <ArmyMan007> well... seems to me i got it right
[10:46] <ArmyMan007> better start working on it
[10:46] <theadmin> sasuke: Or you could use a loop: for i in thunderbird xchat ; do pkill -9 $i ; done
[10:47] <theadmin> sasuke: Whichever works better for you
[10:47] <sasuke> theadmin, ok..
[10:47] <sasuke> theadmin, thanks
[10:50] <Elvano-> So anyone else have an idea where I can find the .thunderbird folder on my drive?
[10:51] <sasuke> theadmin, one more doubt. i am using this command ( thunderbird & ; xchat & ; skype & ; ), but it didnt work. can you tell me whats wrong in this
[10:51] <subz3r0> Elvano-, open a terminal: locate .thunderbird
[10:51] <ardchoille> Elvano-: open a terminal and run this:  find . -name *hunderbird*
[10:51] <theadmin> sasuke: What exactly are you trying to do
[10:51] <subz3r0> Elvano-, should be in: /home/youruser/.thunderbird
[10:51] <theadmin> ardchoille: False! That would use the shell's matching. Take that in quotes.
[10:52] <theadmin> ardchoille: find . -name '*thunderbird*', that is
[10:52] <subz3r0> ardchoille, locate is faster ;)
[10:52] <jrib> sasuke: get rid of the ';'
[10:52] <theadmin> subz3r0: Only if you have a database :P
[10:52] <sasuke> theadmin, i am new to linux. for learning purpose i am practising... but unable to do this
[10:52] <subz3r0> theadmin, k you got me ;)
[10:52] <ardchoille> theadmin: using "False!" doesn't really encourage one to listen to you. Perhaps you should start using "I feel that.." instead?
[10:52] <theadmin> subz3r0: What *do* you want to do? I can't tell from that command, it looks weird to me
[10:53] <ardchoille> subz3r0: indeed
[10:53] <theadmin> ardchoille: Guess I was kinda rude, you're right
[10:53] <subz3r0> theadmin, me? nothing, just told him how to locate his .thunderbird directory
[10:53] <theadmin> subz3r0: Oh, sorry, mistab
[10:53] <sasuke> jrib, its working thanks
[10:54] <Elvano-> apperently neither return anything; subz3r0, ardchoille
[10:54] <ardchoille> Elvano-: when was the last time you used Thunderbird? I am using it here and have the .thunderbird dir in ~
[10:55] <Elvano-> I used it last a week or 2 ago, before my system crached. I'm now using a live CD to try to backup it, archoille
[10:56] <ardchoille> Elvano-: Well, for some reason the folder is no longer there. were you using it with a pop3 account? If so your emails may still be on the server
[10:57] <Elvano-> but my accountsettings should be kept somewhere, no? @ ardchoille
[10:57] <ardchoille> Elvano-: you're suing a live cd? Are you sure you're in the installed system home dir and not the live cd home dir?
[10:57] <ardchoille> s/suing/using/
[10:57] <Elvano-> I'm positiveI'm in the correct folder, ardchoille
[10:58] <ardchoille> ok
[10:58] <ardchoille> it is indeed a mystery
[10:58] <theadmin> Elvano-: Just to be sure, what is the output of "pwd"?
[10:59] <ArcaneWater> Hello, again me^^ I finaly managed to fix usb so now i proceed with installation, and it still not detecting thath i have Windows 7 installed i runed boot repair here is log: http://pastebin.com/SgLRkRpU if anyone can help me what to do to it will detect windows so i can make dual boot.
[11:00] <Elvano-> it gives my live CD's homefolder, but I've the mounted disc in my nautilus and a looking there @ theadmin
[11:00] <theadmin> Elvano-: Well, if you run those commands while in the livecd's home folder they won't return anything.
[11:01] <ardchoille> Elvano-: locate sometimes won't show the correct content due to the slocate database not being fully up to date. and find needs to be run in the proper path in order to find things. try running that find command again while actually being in the installed home dir
[11:03] <ArcaneWater> I finaly managed to fix usb so now i proceed with installation, and it still not detecting thath i have Windows 7 installed i runed boot repair here is log: http://pastebin.com/SgLRkRpU if anyone can help me what to do to it will detect windows so i can make dual boot.
[11:04] <Virunga> Hi, could you tell me how to copy all files except those ending with a ~, with cp command?
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | ArcaneWater
[11:04] <Virunga> Please.
[11:04] <llutz> i'd tell find where to look instead fiddling with $PWD (find path/where/i/guess/it/is -iname 'foo*')
[11:05] <ardchoille> theadmin: may I pm you when you have a moment?
[11:05] <ArcaneWater> ubottu i know yes i found thath already thanks anyway :) But installation is not detecting thath Windows is already installed.
[11:05] <theadmin> ardchoille: Go ahead
[11:05] <ArcaneWater> lol :D
[11:05] <ArcaneWater> I was asking a bot xD
[11:06] <theadmin> Virunga: cp has no way to filter the results, but you may use a ls+grep combo or find
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater: did you do update-grub already?
[11:06] <Virunga> theadmin: ok, do you know the regular expression i could you?
[11:07] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje actualy i am new to this ^^ I just fixed my cd because md5sums were not matching, now i have this problem, then i runed boot-repair and recived this log.
[11:07] <crimsonmane> Virunga: short answer: you'll need to write an if/then/cp
[11:07] <uBUXUBu> does anyone know how to install 2nd life (game) in ubuntu?
[11:07] <Elvano-> it returned './.thunderbird' where's that, ardchoille?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater:open a terminal and type sudo upate-grub then reboot
[11:08] <theadmin> Virunga: Something along the lines of: find your_directory -not '\~$' -exec cp '{}' destination \;
[11:08] <crimsonmane> Elvano-: home folder... in your file browser press control h to show 'hidden' files
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu:did you try playonlinux?
[11:08] <Elvano-> They're on visible, crimsonmane
[11:08] <theadmin> Virunga: Add -maxdepth 1 after the directory if you don't need recursion
[11:08] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje i should to thath where in ubunt preview? Or in boot-repair?
[11:09] <uBUXUBu> what is that lotuspsychje
[11:09] <ardchoille> Elvano-: that's in the installed system home dir.. where it's supposed to be :)
[11:09] <Virunga> theadmin: ok, i'll try, thanks
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | uBUXUBu
[11:09] <Elvano-> But why doesn't nautilus show it to me eventhough it shows all the other hidden files
[11:09] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater:are you in ubuntu right now? if yes from ubuntu terminal
[11:09] <uBUXUBu> how would that help me?
[11:10] <ardchoille> Elvano-: because you aren't in the proper dir?
[11:10] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje nope i am not on ubuntu, cause i am trying to install but no sucess yet because i will creat dual boot...Now i am on windows
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> uBUXUBu:playonlinux can make life easier installing many known games on ubuntu
[11:10] <theadmin> uBUXUBu: PlayOnLinux helps to run Windows games/apps
[11:10] <Elvano-> I am D; ardchoille
[11:11] <uBUXUBu> hmm ok i suppose that is in the software center and maybe if i get it it will be self explanantory
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater: try installing win7 first, then from there create new partition for ubuntu, then install ubuntu next to win7
[11:11] <uBUXUBu> hopem it works thanks lotuspsychje and theadmin
[11:11] <ardchoille> Elvano-: if "find" found the .thunderbird folder but nautilus doesn't then you aren't in the proper dir. You may think you are.. but..
[11:12] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje huh there is no other way to fix thath? I already have second partition...
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater:cant you boot ubuntu next to win7?
[11:13] <theadmin> Elvano-: You sure hidden files are shown? Hit Ctrl-H to see them in Nautilus
[11:13] <Elvano-> Look, the patch in the terminal is identical to the path in nautilus. If I'm not in the correct folder that's what nautilus thinks as well...   ._.  @ardchoille
[11:13] <Elvano-> I seriously have the feeling you're all thinking I'm dumb D; @ theadmin
[11:13] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje i can boot from usb and proceed with install, when there should be install them by side it says thath there were no os detected...
[11:14] <theadmin> Elvano-: Not at all, just eliminating the simple things
[11:14] <ardchoille> Elvano-: what path in the terminal? type "pwd" and check to see if that returns the same thing that is in nautilus
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater:so when trying to install ubuntu, it doesnt show win7?
[11:14] <ardchoille> Elvano-: we don't think you're dumb, we're just trying to eliminate the small things first. I've been on Ubuntu since 2005 and even I make silly listakes
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater: os you mean win7 got corrupted to proper boot?
[11:15] <bal_> hi
[11:15] <Ray2> Elvano-, file system>home>username>.thunderbird ..under hidden files
[11:16] <theadmin> Ray2: That's on a normal system, (s)he's using a livecd
[11:16] <bal_> when  i try to take screenshot with it is not saves to picture folder  only slash screen comes?
[11:16] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje i already have win7 yes i am using it right now, for dual boot it says thath it will autmaticaly detected win7 and it will give you option Install them by side. But at my installation does not detect w7, but i can still normaly use w7
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater:ok that was clear now
[11:17] <Elvano-> archoille, it just returns me the same path.
[11:18] <ardchoille> Elvano-: where is the installed system mounted? /mnt? /media? What is the path?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ArcaneWater:look at this url http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/ and look at the 'something else' partitioning
[11:19] <Elvano-> in /media/ ...    ardchoille
[11:20] <ardchoille> Elvano-: ok, so this command should work if you get the proper username on the installed system:
[11:20] <ardchoille> cp -r /media/home/usernamehere/.thunderbird /path/to/target
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> brb
[11:21] <Elvano-> Nice, I always wondered how to copy through the terminal, archoille. Let me try it
[11:21] <bal_> how to fix the save option of gnome -screenshot?
[11:21] <ArcaneWater> lotuspsychje hmm yes i was already thinking about thath to install them seperated, but still strange thath it does not gives me option to install them by side..
[11:21] <ardchoille> Elvano-: change the usernamehere bit to your installed system user
[11:25] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265455/
[11:26] <Elvano-> it says 'no such name or directory'  D;
[11:26] <blackshirt> elvano, list it with ls
[11:26] <ardchoille> Elvano-: ls /media/home
[11:26] <alextrusk> hitler gangnam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCfuZ9YmqiI
[11:26] <gsned> can someone help me "bridge" 2 connections - accessing internet via wlan0.  want clients to connect to server running dhcp3 server via eth0 (that has a static ip) and share the internet connection onto rest of network via eth0
[11:27] <young001> anyone ever use redis under windows?
[11:27] <blackshirt> gsned, just setup ip forwarding and configure some iptables rules to masquerade
[11:27] <Elvano-> it should be   /media/discname/home ,right ardchoille?
[11:28] <blackshirt> young001, redis
[11:28] <ardchoille> Elvano-: if your install system is mounted to /media then it should be /media/home
[11:28] <young001> blackshirt, yes,redis
[11:28] <gsned> blackshirt - u able to point me in the right direction.  i thought the first step would be to set eth0 as a static ip before even setting up dhcp3 server.  soon as i do that can no longer access internet via wlan0
[11:28] <blackshirt> !ot | young001
[11:28] <bal_> screenshot not working
[11:29] <young001> blackshirt, ok,sorry for that
[11:29] <opalepatrick> is a clean desktop install preferable to an upgrade (12.04 > 12.10) or will it amount to the same thing without having to re-install software etc
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> i prefer clean install
[11:29] <blackshirt> gsned, actually yes, but i'm sitting on handheld devices now, i can't help you too much
[11:30] <ardchoille> opalepatrick: personal pref, I always do clean installs.. but others prefer upgrades and have no problems
[11:30] <iceroot> opalepatrick: why you need to upgrade?
[11:30] <gsned> blackshirt - any suggestions why internet no longer works when i set up static IP on eth0?
[11:30] <gordonjcp> gsned: not set a default route?
[11:30] <iceroot> gsned: no route defined?
[11:30] <Elvano-> there is no media/home  there is a /media/diskname/home   @ ardchoille
[11:31] <blackshirt> gsned, i think route problems
[11:31] <ardchoille> Elvano-: try: ls /mnt/home
[11:31] <opalepatrick> iceroot, that is the question. Just feel like I am getting less performance and little niggles I never had before and previously always felt it was much faster etc after new install.
[11:31] <opalepatrick> Just now, I cant interrupt workflow
[11:31] <opalepatrick> my work I mean
[11:31] <gsned> how do i define that in network manager? eth0 ip 192.168.1.1 wlan0 gets ip from dhcp and is 10.42.0.55
[11:31] <Elvano-> same, ardchoille
[11:32] <blackshirt> opalepatrick, i'm prefer for upgrades ... Clean install? Not anymore :d
[11:32] <ardchoille> Elvano-: ok, try: cp -r /media/diskname/home/usernamehere/.thunderbird /path/to/target
[11:32] <Elvano-> tried that, same notification @ ardchoille
[11:33] <gordonjcp> gsned: in IPv4 settings, select "Manual" and add a set of addresses
[11:33] <ardchoille> Elvano-: ls /media
[11:33] <ShapeShifter499> hi, before I go and mess up my system is there any reason why I can't install packages that where made for fedora, arch, etc on ubuntu?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499: with unexpected consequences
[11:34] <blackshirt> shapeshiftter, tehnicallly you can :d
[11:34] <gsned> gordonjcp - in there just now.  when editing ip4v routes for wired connectuib given option for address, net mask, gateway and metric.  what do I put as the address - the address for eth0 or wlan0?
[11:34] <emilihouse> Ciao, qualcuno mi può aiutare che ho un problema con il monitor esterno
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> ShapeShifter499  ubuntu is based on debian, the others you name are not
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:34] <opalepatrick> does seem to be personal pref. Could I install 12.10 in a separate partition alongside 12.04? Or would that cause its own problems?
[11:34] <Elvano-> it gives me the names of the mounted drives @ archoille
[11:34] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: it's best that you don't mix distro packages, you're asking for problems
[11:34] <blackshirt> but i don't want messed up  my box
[11:35] <Elvano-> Sorry archoille, I need to go my battis dead, thanks for your help =x
[11:35] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: different libs versions, different deps. etc.
[11:35] <ardchoille> Elvano-: ok, you're welcome
[11:35] <blackshirt> shapeshiffter499, even you can, but it was bad things
[11:35] <ShapeShifter499> ardchoille, even if the deps happen to be satisfied?
[11:36] <dios_mio> !update-grub
[11:36] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: and when you upgrade those deps? what happens to the apps you isntalled that were designed to be installed on other systems?
[11:36] <blackshirt> shapeshifter499, you can install it like other linux, that was make for linux..
[11:37] <dios_mio> when i modify /etc/default/grub what do i run next to make it current?
[11:37] <blackshirt> dios_mio, update-grub2
[11:37] <theadmin> dios_mio: sudo update-grub
[11:37] <dios_mio> thanks
[11:37] <dios_mio> :)
[11:37] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: the best policy is to never mix distro packages, doing so will eventually cause you problems.
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> if it works at all
[11:38] <ardchoille> ^^
[11:38] <blackshirt> shapeshifter499, ardchoille was right
[11:38] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: have you checked the ubuntu repos for the apps you want? the ubuntu repos are huge
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> I know I was just curious
[11:39] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: ok, good thing you asked beforehand :)
[11:40] <gsned> what entries do i put in to define ip4v route between eth0 and wlan0? both networks on same subnet 255.255.255.0 but eth0 has static ip assigned 192.168.1.1 and wlan0 gets ip from dhcp currently set to 10.42.0.55
[11:40]  * ShapeShifter499 proceeds to "apt-get install yum" 
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> yum?
[11:41] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: part of the problem will be deps. package A might have satisfied deps now but if those deps are upgraded by the ubuntu update mechanism then package A may not have satisifed deps because the ubuntu upgrade didn't upgrade the cross-distro package(s)
[11:41] <blackshirt> shapeshiffter499, if you want to know,is other distro packages can be installed on ubuntu linux, yes, you can, with bit a hack and some high risk
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> ShapeShifter499  if you're skilled enough, you can do anything you want
[11:43] <ShapeShifter499> mmk
[11:50] <gordonjcp> gsned: you put the address of your router
[11:58] <gsned> gordonjcp - i've got a box using internet connection sharing feeding the internet into the router (only way i can get access at present).  when u say put ip address of router do you mean the router that boosts the signal to rest of my house or the address of the box doing the ICS?
[11:59] <gordonjcp> gsned: I don't understand what you just said
[11:59] <gsned> gordonjcp can i PM u?
[12:00] <egsome> When should Ubuntu 12.10 Final Version be available ?
[12:01] <ardchoille> egsome: the 28th of this month I believe
[12:02] <egsome> Thanks ardchoille
[12:02] <gordonjcp> gsned: what's "u"?
[12:02] <pauser> hello, i typed this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265508/ and now i can not use the numbers keyboard on the right even though the number lock is on. how could i fix it ?
[12:02] <gsned> gordonjcp u = you lol
[12:03] <gsned> back in a sec away for a cig
[12:05] <pauser> is there any way that i could make it reverse ?
[12:06] <melissublime1> hi friends. i have installed axel.but it don't download mediafire links.it say Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection ...what should i do?
[12:08] <TreadStone__71> Hello everyone.
[12:08] <tham> Is it possible to make the Unity Launcher display only the apps in the current workspace?
[12:08] <ShapeShifter499> woot
[12:08] <ShapeShifter499> itunes runs on ubuntu *evil laugh*
[12:09] <melissublime1>  hi friends. i have installed axel.but it don't download mediafire links.it say Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection ...what should i do?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> ShapeShifter499:on wine?
[12:11] <ShapeShifter499> yes
[12:11] <melissublime1>  hi friends. i have installed axel.but it don't download mediafire links.it say Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection ...what should i do?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> ShapeShifter499:latest itunes version?
[12:12] <ShapeShifter499> lotuspsychje, yes, there is no usb support (yet?) but it works
[12:13] <ShapeShifter499> lotuspsychje, you will need gdiplus from winetricks to make the graphical glitches go away
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> ShapeShifter499=you know this1? http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[12:14] <ShapeShifter499> yes
[12:14] <TreadStone__71> Where is the best place to get themes and wallpapers for ubuntu?
[12:14] <aykoola> hi guys! i need some information! A friend of mine has a 6yr old MSI machine, 32-bit, 2gig ram, 1,4 gig cpu i think
[12:14] <aykoola> so i installed ubuntu on his machine
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> TreadStone___71:for wallpapers you can try deviantart.com
[12:15] <aykoola> it works quite ok
[12:15] <aykoola> but he's having sound issues
[12:15] <TreadStone__71> lotuspsychje thank you.
[12:15] <aykoola> and it can lag sometimes, i presume it's because of unity
[12:15] <aykoola> so
[12:15] <aykoola> what could be worth installing as an alternative
[12:15] <aykoola> ?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> aykoola:you could try unity2d for lagging
[12:15] <NewWorld> lotuspsychje:  try Gnome Look
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> NewWorld:thats a nice one too mate
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> NewWorld:i like the ubuntu desktop shots on deviant :p
[12:16] <aykoola> lotuspsychje and what about maybe Xubuntu or something cinnamon flavoured like mint?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> aykoola:mint is unsupported here, but xubuntu is very recommended
[12:17] <vector_> bharath:
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> aykoola:i recently installed xubuntu on very old laptop running very smooth
[12:17] <aykoola> so it takes up less memory than unity?
[12:17] <aykoola> i mean, significantly?
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> aykoola:yes mate
[12:18] <aykoola> thanks again! But what about cinnamon in general, is it also less reasource hungry?
[12:18] <damms005> how do I rsync from a windows network?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> aykoola:never tested cinnamon, but i guess it will run also smooth
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !rsync | damms005
[12:19] <Xinfe_> Hi, I have a question for a tricky installation of Ubuntu
[12:19] <Xinfe_> I want to move from Debian to Ubuntu, and I have no CD available nor USB key
[12:19] <Xinfe_> I have used unetbootin (and therefore grub2) to boot the ISO
[12:19] <aykoola> lotus, thank you very very much! you've been great help! :D
[12:19] <mlj> hello!!!
[12:19] <Xinfe_> Now, when I run the installer to install Ubuntu on another partition (to avoid overwriting the ISO), here is the error I get:
[12:19] <Xinfe_> The installer needs to commit changes to the partition table, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount point could not be unmounted: /cdrom
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !yay | aykoola
[12:19] <Xinfe_> Do you have any idea to get around this problem? Text-based installer?
[12:20] <Xinfe_> (When I hit the "Continue" button, the installer is stuck to "Detecting file system")
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> damms005  I havent tried it, but first thing on my mind: mount the windows partition(s) in linux and then use rsync
[12:20] <blackshirt> hello mlj
[12:20] <aykoola> thanks again! see you guys!!! :)
[12:20] <damms005> I have tried it. It is not connectiong. How can I simply copy files from a connected windows computr to my computer?
[12:21] <NewWorld> Xinfe_:  can you not unmount it manually prior to beginning the installation?
[12:21] <damms005> MonkeyDust: It is mounted (because I can use nautilus to browse it from the side panel)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> damms005: you could ssh into the machines
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> damms005  sounds like a samba thingy to me
[12:21] <damms005> Confused. I think samba always come preinstalled
[12:22] <NewWorld> damms005:  you can't just copy the files in Nautilus?
[12:23] <damms005> But I guess there is a way that nautilus is doing it (beacause I can simply copy using nautilus with address like smb:///jiballs-pc/Users)
[12:23] <Xethron> Heya guys
[12:23] <justus> hi, got a problem here with the kubuntu 12.04.1 desktop cd, during initial launch I get a lot of timeouts and finally a udevadm settle - timeout of 120 seconds reached, the splashscreen  appears but hangs forever
[12:23] <Xethron> I bought a new laptop (Proline), and it has a built in 3G modem. But I have no idea how to access it?
[12:24] <damms005> NewWorld: Nautilus won't always be available (sometimes I just boot into tty - no GUI)
[12:24] <Xethron> I don't even know what kind of modem it is.
[12:24] <NewWorld> damms005:  isn't the network share already mounted so yo ucan cp from tty?
[12:25] <NewWorld> Xethron:  maybe it shows up in the Network Manager in the systray?
[12:25] <ArcaneWater> So can someone help me why my ubuntu installation does not recognize  thath Windows 7 is already installed, i realy need dual boot here is log from boot-repair - http://pastebin.com/SgLRkRpU
[12:26] <Xethron> NewWorld, nope.
[12:26] <Xethron> I'm currently booted into windows
[12:26] <Xethron> But it was not in the tray or anything
[12:26] <blackshirt> arcanewater, you can add it manually
[12:26] <damms005> NewWorld: I dont know how to access the mounted windows network (I tried df -lh anyway). How do I access the windows mounted network?
[12:27] <Xethron> is there maybe like a page that explains the software needed to connect to 3G?
[12:27] <ArcaneWater> blackshirt to choose Do somthign else? It is enought if i only have C (Windows) and D (free) drive?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> !3G
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> !modem | Xethron
[12:28] <blackshirt> !grub2 | arcanewater
[12:28] <damms005> NewWorld: I dont know how to access the mounted windows network (I tried df -lh anyway). How do I access the mounted windows network?
[12:28] <damms005> Please I dont know how to access the mounted windows network (I tried df -lh anyway). How do I access the mounted windows network?
[12:28] <NewWorld> damms005:  Sorry I thought Samba mounts the network share so it's looks like a local folder on your system...
[12:28] <razieliyo> hi
[12:29] <razieliyo> I'm having some issue with gnome screensaver
[12:29] <razieliyo> if I enter on screensaver configuration, it goes to xscreensaver, not gnome screensaver
[12:29] <razieliyo> I'd like to know which app is for configuring gnome screensaver
[12:29] <damms005> NewWorld: So how do I access this "FOLDER" from the cli
[12:30] <damms005> NewWorld: So how do I access this "FOLDER" from the cli
[12:30] <NewWorld> damms005:  I thought you could just cd to where it's mounted
[12:31] <zykotick9> damms005: check ~/.gvfs for the mounted folder
[12:31] <damms005> NewWorld: like: cd /home/emmanuel/?
[12:31] <NewWorld> damms005:  .. if that's where the samba share is mounted
[12:32] <Millman> Hi there, my laptop does not start the network manager. why and how could I fix it? Only ping works.
[12:33] <damms005> zykotick9: Is it where it is mounted by default?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Millman:your wifi enabled from bios?
[12:33] <zykotick9> damms005: /home/emmanuel/.gvfs is "probably" where nautilus mounts things...
[12:33] <Millman> Lotus, it should be, it worked yesterday
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> Millman:any interesting errors on /var/log/syslog?
[12:34] <Millman> And the wifi button is on
[12:34] <Millman> Let me check it
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> Millman:on what wifi card/driver?
[12:36] <damms005> zykotick9: NewWorld Thanks buddies.You're my pals for life. zykotick9 : Only user can access the folder, not even root
[12:36] <damms005> zykotick9: NewWorld Thanks buddies.You're my pals for life. zykotick9 : Only user can access the folder, not even root
[12:36] <truexfan81>  /join #deluge
[12:36] <truexfan81> oops
[12:36] <Millman> Lotus, network manager failed to initialise PolicyKit
[12:37] <Millman> The permission of setuid helper is bit correct
[12:37] <Millman> Not*
[12:37] <ocin> anyone knows of a good program to create mosaic images?
[12:37] <NewWorld> damms005:  you can `su <username>` then access
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> Millman:maybe this can help? http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=4541
[12:39] <Unguided> Hello all. I was at my local computer store and the sales person was telling me that a lot of linux users were switching to ati radeon cards instead of nvidia. He said that nvidia stopped support for linux. Anyone know if this is true and if not can you tell me why they are using ati radeon cards instead of nvidia?
[12:39] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: The solution suggested there is specific to the ArchLinux family of distros and won't work for Ubuntu
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ok
[12:40] <ocin> gagnamstyle: you spelt it wrong
[12:40] <gagnamstyle> ?
[12:40] <Millman> Lotus, /etc/rc.conf does not exist
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> Millman:holdon mate
[12:41] <theadmin> Millman: See what I told him/her -- that solution is specific to the Arch family and Ubuntu is nowhere close to that
[12:41] <blackshirt> ah, there are gangnamstyle here .... You suck things ...
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> Millman:did you try to logon as another user to test?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> Millman:and on what version of ubuntu are you?
[12:43] <Millman> No, lotus butI have found something
[12:43] <Millman> Last supporTed release
[12:43] <Millman> Dbus is broken
[12:44] <Millman> Or not totally installed
[12:44] <Millman> Fully*
[12:45] <Xinfe> I have another question:
[12:45] <Xinfe> Is there a text-based version of the installer in the livecd ?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> Millman:you recently upgraded to latest?
[12:45] <hipitihop> Can someone help me with getting udev to ignore my device. I have created a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d , DRIVERS=="usbhid", ATTRS{idVendor}=="15b7", OPTIONS=="ignore_device" but when I unplug and replug, usb-devices still shows it. See detail device listings here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265111/
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> Xinfe:try the alternate iso
[12:46] <blackshirt> xinfe_, use server version, they used d-i for install process
[12:46] <Millman> No lotus, but upgraded something yesterday
[12:46] <Xinfe> I can't use it, the only system still vorking is the live I'm currently using
[12:46] <Millman> The update manager did it
[12:46] <silverarrow> does anyone use bluetooth?
[12:47] <silverarrow> how do I activate it? I have blueman
[12:47] <Xinfe> I tried ubiquity from a text tty, but it doesn't work
[12:47] <silverarrow> Xinfe: minimal install?
[12:47] <Millman> Lotus, maybe dbus was updated wrongly
[12:48] <blackshirt> xinfe, they need x windowing system to run
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> Millman:yeah might be
[12:48] <Xinfe> Yeah, that's why I asked for a text based installer in the liveCD
[12:48] <Xinfe> How do I start a minimal install from the liveCD ?
[12:49] <hipitihop> any udev experts here
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop  ask a question to find out
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> !udev | hiptihop
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> hiptihop:try #udev
[12:49] <melissublime1>  i have installed axel.but it don't download mediafire links.it say Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection ...what should i do?
[12:49] <melissublime1>  i have installed axel.but it don't download mediafire links.it say Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection ...what should i do?
[12:49] <silverarrow> xinfe, I suppose you have to download and burn minimal install version, not sure if you can get a shell in the live CD verison
[12:50] <hipitihop> MonkeyDust, I have see  "can someone help me with getting udev ...."  ^^^
[12:50] <Millman> Is there any easy way to update dbus editor"without connection?
[12:50] <melissublime1>  i have installed axel.but it don't download mediafire links.it say Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection ...what should i do?
[12:50] <Millman> Or can I connect it manually?
[12:50] <NewWorld> !ubottu
[12:50] <Xinfe> I have no external media available (CD/DVD/usb key/server)
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop  ask the question to find out if someone can help
[12:50] <blackshirt> melissublime1, i think axel was not support metafile used
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> Millman: you could try adding your install cd as software sources
[12:50] <Xinfe> silverarrow: I have no external media available (CD/DVD/usb key/server)
[12:51] <Millman> Nice lotus
[12:51] <silverarrow> Xinfe: neither of them? I have never made an install via network
[12:51] <hipitihop> Thanks MonkeyDust I have done so a few times so I was trying a different tack. Thanks anyway.. Will see if any joy on #udev
[12:51] <melissublime1> blackshirt: i usef multiget and wget too
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> Millman:or maybe install another network manager like wicd not sure that will work
[12:51] <melissublime1> but they couldn't download it
[12:51] <Xinfe> silverarrow: No, I have nothing, and I broke my debian install which was working yesterday
[12:52] <melissublime1> what should i do?
[12:52] <Xinfe> silverarrow: So, i have only this live available using grub2 from my HDD
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> hiptihop: would really be easier if you just akes your question, other time, other support users
[12:52] <hipitihop> lotuspsychje, thanks trying in #udev
[12:52] <blackshirt> melissublime1, i don't know what format used by metafile download
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> kk
[12:53] <fsdfsd> hello
[12:53] <silverarrow> Xinfe: that makes you kind of stuck until you access different options, unless you can fix grub2
[12:53] <silverarrow> Xinfe: there is a debian channel, maybe they have a good idea
[12:53] <melissublime1> blackshirt:  i used aria2 too.i wanna download a rar file
[12:53] <user210> Hello, is there any way to install any distro from image (.iso) without burning to disc/extract to usb? (Only copy iso image)
[12:54] <gordonjcp> user210: recent Ubuntu ISOs will work just fine for that
[12:54] <theadmin> user210: You can use GRUB 2 to boot from ISO
[12:54] <Millman> Is there any way to change the software source from the shell?
[12:54] <Xinfe> silverarrow: No, I want to leave Debian, and my distro is *really* broken (lot of dependencies problems, brocken packages and so on)
[12:54] <Xinfe> silverarrow: "unless you can fix grub2": What are you thinking about?
[12:54] <silverarrow> anyone successful with bluetooth in Ubuntu?
[12:55] <theadmin> Millman: You mean the APT sources or what?
[12:55] <silverarrow> Xinfe: nothing really, it is booting that is broken?
[12:55] <Millman> Yes admin, in order to use the cd as a source
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:if your bluetooth device has correct driver:should work when mobile sending picture
[12:55] <theadmin> Millman: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <Xinfe> Yeah, I don't even have a prompt (shell or busybox)
[12:55] <Xinfe> silverarrow: Yeah, I don't even have a prompt (shell or busybox)
[12:56] <melissublime1> no one here download mediafire files?!
[12:56]  * hipitihop notes #udev is silent, so will persist asking here for the time being
[12:56] <silverarrow> Xinfe: hmm, unless you can reinstall grub or boot register, I`m not sure
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> !warez | melissublime1
[12:57] <silverarrow> Xinfe: how can you live without either CD/DVD or usb flash memory?
[12:57] <Xinfe> silverarrow: grub is the only thing which is still working (it boots this very liveCD from my HDD)
[12:58] <silverarrow> is that iso burned to HD on a partition then Xinfe?
[12:58] <melissublime1> ubottu: i don't think so.i think it is a debian problem
[12:58] <theadmin> melissublime1: Debian is not supported here.
[12:58] <Xinfe> silverarrow: Yeah, I used unetbootin to get the iso booting (when my Debian was still booted)
[12:58] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  you can mount ISOs and run the installer from there. Really not sure whether this would install fine
[12:58] <melissublime1> oh my god sorry i meant ubuntu
[12:58]  * satellit_e Testing elementary-luna on SD
[12:59] <melissublime1> :P
[12:59] <silverarrow> Xinfe: you definitely need a fixer expert
[12:59] <Xinfe> NewWorld: No, it don't works neither :
[12:59] <Xinfe> NewWorld: "The installer needs to commit changes to the partition table, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount point could not be unmounted: /cdrom"
[12:59] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  so unmount it manually
[13:00] <Xinfe> NewWorld: $ sudo umount /cdrom umount: /cdrom: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[13:00] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  you tried lsof/fuser to check if something is using /cdrom ?
[13:00] <Millman> I did sudo dpkg  configure _a and fixed it lotus and admin
[13:00] <Xinfe> NewWorld: I have also tried to boot the live using the "toram" parameter to free the /cdrom
[13:01] <Millman> Thanks for all
[13:01] <Xinfe> How to use lsof?
[13:01] <NewWorld> man lsof
[13:01] <Xinfe> NewWorld: Yeah, but I mean just "lsof | grep cdrom" should do the trick ?
[13:02] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  I suppose; i didn't use lsof in a while
[13:02] <Xinfe> OK, there is nothing using it
[13:02] <Xinfe> xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ lsof | grep cdrom lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow       Output information may be incomplete. xubuntu@xubuntu:~$
[13:02] <silverarrow> I have bluetooth manager open, but how to use it?
[13:02] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  can you remove /cdrom mount line in /etc/fstab ? Maybe then it won't automount it
[13:02] <NewWorld> on boot
[13:03] <Xinfe> NewWorld: There is no /cdrom in the fstab
[13:04] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  Not sure how to help you then. Mayb udev is automounting cdrom
[13:04] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  maybe you have a CD in? haha
[13:04] <Xinfe> NewWorld: udev is not installed
[13:05] <Xinfe> NewWorld: No, no CD, I think the system is tricked, because it's booted from an ISO on my HDD (and the iso SHOULD be a CD)
[13:07] <satellit_e> Xinfe: did you install to HD with dd?
[13:07] <Xinfe> satellit_e: No, using unetbootin
[13:10] <cinka_> hi
[13:11] <Guest96749> Hmm drat.  I can't seem to get the via driver I have here to build on ubuntu 10.04. I suspected as much but figured it was worth a shot.
[13:11] <DanStamp> And I should probably log in.
[13:12] <DanStamp> So the via driver won't make, the vesa driver returns no screens, and the openchrome driver runs, but I can't get the screen to display.
[13:15] <qw[Russian]> hello people
[13:15] <qw[Russian]> help me please install ICQ
[13:15] <theadmin> qw[Russian]: Ubuntu comes with Empathy which can connect to ICQ
[13:15] <cinka_> isnt there a plugin/way in pidgin?
[13:19] <NewWorld> cinka_:  yeah there is when you add an account in pidgin
[13:23] <hipitihop> I need a hand for a new udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ to ignore a device, any takers ?
[13:25] <theadmin> hipitihop: Your current one is also correct, but instead of: OPTIONS=="ignore_device" (== means condition, that is, before the rule is executed) use: OPTIONS="ignore_device"
[13:26] <theadmin> At least that's what the intuition tells me
[13:26] <Xinfe> NewWorld silverarrow : I finally found a USB drive (my old iPod I almost never use), but I can't mount it ("The daemon is inhibited" from the GUI, and from the CLI: "mount: can't find /dev/disk/by-label/XINPOD in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[13:27] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  what's your mount cmd?
[13:27] <Xinfe> NewWorld: sudo mount /dev/disk/by-label/XINPOD
[13:28] <theadmin> Xinfe: Should be more like sudo mount LABEL=XINPOD /path/to/some/folder/where/to/mount
[13:28] <NewWorld> Xinfe:  you specified so few parameters that it has to look in fstab. Add mount options and mountpoint. check man mount
[13:28] <Xinfe> theadmin: Indeed, I forgot the destination :)
[13:29] <hipitihop> theadmin, thanks will try that, can I also confirm that if I change the rule, it is enough to do "sudo udevadm trigger"
[13:29] <theadmin> hipitihop: I'm... not too sure about when udev processes rules, I always just reboot after I add one
[13:30] <hipitihop> theadmin, a pain but ok. btw this is a dveice I can plug in and out like a usb flahs stick, so would it not use new rule next time I  plug in
[13:31] <theadmin> hipitihop: Again not sure, should but who knows
[13:31] <jrib> hipitihop, theadmin: service udev restart   should be one way to avoid a complete system restart
[13:31] <theadmin> jrib: udev is a daemon then?
[13:32] <jrib> theadmin: apparently; I know not much about udev's black magic
[13:32] <hipitihop> jrib thanks will try that also
[13:33] <jrib> theadmin, hipitihop: also udevadm has a --reload-rules option.  Maybe you can call that from the init script (like "service apache2 reload"), or maybe you can just call it directly
[13:34] <hipitihop> jrib, note this is a device that gets hot plugged in/out so init seems unnecessary, or am I talking bollocks
[13:35] <jrib> hipitihop: not sure what you mean
[13:35] <jrib> hipitihop: by "init script" I just meant the script that the service command uses
[13:35] <hipitihop> jrib, you said "...from the init script" , I assumed you are talking about init that occurs on system startup
[13:35] <rkhshm> tapas: are you around, by any chance?
[13:36] <hipitihop> kk
[13:37] <Stars> heya, what is the cmd to switch back to GUI screen?
[13:38] <Stars> after rebooted system login me in dos prompt screen
[13:38] <shantorn> Stars, try startx
[13:38] <Stars> thanks
[13:41] <hipitihop> jrib, theadmin, service restart and trigger still not making any difference. udevadm doe snot seem to know --reload-rule .. will reboot brb
[13:42] <jrib> hipitihop: it's udevadm control --reload-rules
[13:45] <hipitihop> jrib,  ok udev swallowed that, and I also did service restart, still no joy, usbhid listed as driver as per my lin 8 & 9 in http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265111/
[13:45] <hipitihop> will reboot, brb
[13:49] <DanStamp> Can anyone see anything here that would leave me with a black screen? http://pastebin.com/PWpkw2qj
[13:52] <hipitihop> jrib, theadmin, no joy, still listed with usbhid driver. Am I being reasonable to expect that to change once the ignore rule  correctly fires ?
[13:53] <theadmin> hipitihop: May I see the rule again?
[13:54] <hipitihop> theadmin, give me a sec, I will pastbin for you
[13:55] <theadmin> hipitihop: Bah, the attribute is "OPTION", not "OPTIONS"
[13:55] <williamherry> there one process in zombia status can't kill even use kill -9, any other way?
[13:55] <theadmin> hipitihop: Err, never mind, misreading here
[13:55] <theadmin> williamherry: try kill -SEGV
[13:56] <theadmin> hipitihop: So waiting for the paste
[13:56] <hipitihop> nearly there
[13:56] <williamherry> theadmin: not work
[13:56] <theadmin> williamherry: Hm...
[13:57] <theadmin> I dunno much about dealing with zombies
[13:57] <hipitihop> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265693/
[13:57] <llutz> williamherry: you cannot kill zombies, they are already dead. try killing the parent-process
[13:57] <ziyadb> How can I turn on debugging for incoming network connections? Preferably on a single port.
[13:58] <ziyadb> Essentially debug a listening port.
[13:58] <williamherry> llutz: ok I try
[13:59] <theadmin> hipitihop: Maybe try without the DRIVERS rule? It's unlikely that idVendor will be the same for some other device...
[13:59] <theadmin> hipitihop: Or maybe specify BUS=="usb"
[13:59] <williamherry> llutz: I can't, his parent is gnome-session
[14:00] <hipitihop> theadmin, is there not a rule priority too ? have I got that right ?
[14:00] <theadmin> hipitihop: There might be, but that looks correct to me
[14:00] <theadmin> hipitihop: If you mean the numbers before the filenames
[14:00] <hipitihop> yes
[14:00] <theadmin> For the hell of it, you can name your file 1-ignore-stupid-device.rules to make sure it's the first one to be loaded
[14:00] <hipitihop> theadmin, and you saw the details for the device here ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265111/
[14:01] <llutz> williamherry: bad luck, then just wait until it vanishes. it's only an entry in the processlist which should harm in any way
[14:01] <hipitihop> theadmin, I thought the bigger the number the higher the priority, will have to re-read docs
[14:02] <theadmin> hipitihop: Oh, that might be
[14:02] <williamherry> llutz: ok
[14:04] <hipitihop> theadmin, and /etc/udev/rules.d is the only place for this stuff ?
[14:04] <theadmin> hipitihop: Well unless Ubuntu did something weird to udev, yes
[14:05] <paulens12> hello
[14:05] <paulens12> can someone help me with installing ubuntu? ;D
[14:06] <Eriq> paulens12: What's the problem?
[14:06] <johnsnow> paulens12, arent you typing this in ubuntu irc?
[14:06] <paulens12> i need to configure all the partitions..
[14:06] <hipitihop> I vaugelly remember having a similar issue many moons ago for an lirc device being grabbed and these rules were not enough, had to do something with another kernel setting somewhere
[14:06] <paulens12> and i don't know, do i need all primary partitions?
[14:06] <theadmin> paulens12: You don't. There are simplier options (install near current system, install instead of current system)... If you don't want to bother with the complicated stuff, don't know how to, use those
[14:07] <paulens12> well, i want to know everything about the partitions i have...
[14:07] <Eriq> paulens12: I recommenc you if you aren't an advanced user to do what theadmin said.
[14:07] <johnsnow> guys, i want to help someone build a website
[14:08] <paulens12> and actually, i'm pretty advanced on computers... i just never used ubuntu... so i'm a bit confused about all those partitions...
[14:08] <paulens12> john_271,
[14:08] <johnsnow> where can i turn to for such charity?
[14:08] <paulens12> johnsnow, i have a project
[14:08] <johnsnow> paulens12, i've been passioned for doing a collab for a long time
[14:08] <paulens12> but it's like open source... you won't get money.. lol
[14:08] <theadmin> paulens12: Just use the simple options, seriously...
[14:08] <johnsnow> paulens12,  yes thats my point
[14:08] <theadmin> paulens12: Anyway, the basic idea is to have at least 2 partitions: a / and a swap
[14:08] <johnsnow> paulens12,  i want to help someone 4 free
[14:09] <theadmin> paulens12: You may also want a /home
[14:09] <paulens12> ok john
[14:09] <paulens12> umm
[14:09] <paulens12> how do i open a private chat with this client.. xD
[14:09] <paulens12> ok lol
[14:09] <paulens12> i did that
[14:09] <wcchandler> I need to setup some kind of kernel dumping thing.  My laptop keeps "locking up", responding to no input.  Can't SSH into it and all applications stop.  Magic SysReq doesn't work.  Is there way to do a kernel dump when that happens?  Pretty sure it's a hardware issue, but I want to cover my bases.
[14:09] <Eriq> paulens12: /q id guess
[14:10] <paulens12> well i just had to right-click on his nick...
[14:10] <paulens12> anyways, i already have 3 primary partitions...
[14:10] <hipitihop> theadmin, BUS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="15b7", OPTIONS="ignore_device" no joy
[14:10] <paulens12> and i need to install ubuntu without deleting them
[14:10] <bekks> hipitihop: hy do you want to ignore an usb device, specifically?
[14:11] <paulens12> so, can the partitions be logical?.. because i can't have more than 4 primary partitions...
[14:11] <ArmyMan007> help! can't get sound to work!
[14:11] <bekks> paulens12: Yes.
[14:12] <AssociateX> Beep beep!
[14:12] <ArmyMan007> Installed 12.04 X64 just now and I have no sound... done the tutorial on the Ubuntu site but nothing help!
[14:12] <paulens12> oh, ok... but i guess one of them must be primary... it won't boot from logical?
[14:12] <ArmyMan007> Installed 12.04 X64 just now and I have no sound... done the tutorial on the Ubuntu site but nothing helps!
[14:12] <hipitihop> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265111/ is being grabbed and assigned usbhid driver
[14:12] <hipitihop> bekks, line 8 & 9 in pastebin
[14:14] <AssociateX> Hello, my desktop crashes and goes to the login in window when ever I left click "Dash home". I've done some search and have not found a solution to this yet.
[14:14] <hipitihop> bekks, to answer your question, I believe this is why this device, and only this usb device fails when I try to attach it to a virtualbox host
[14:15] <ArmyMan007> Installed 12.04 X64 just now and I have no sound... done the tutorial on the Ubuntu site but nothing helps!
[14:16] <wilee-nilee> ArmyMan007, Did that tutorial include running alsamixer in the terminal and checking if anything is muted, and checking the preferences in sound a right click on the icon, if you reference a page or tutorial post it we don't all know of them there are 1000's of wiki pages.
[14:16] <johnsnow> ArmyMan007, i think thats a bug :/
[14:16] <bekks> hipitihop: Well, when you ignore that device, you will not be able to it it through to vbox.
[14:17] <r33P33r> hey
[14:17] <hipitihop> bekks, the specific error is "Failed to create a proxy device for the USB device. (Error: VERR_READ_ERROR)." &  "Result Code: NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) Component:  Console Interface:  IConsole {1968b7d3-e3bf-4ceb-99e0-cb7c913317bb}"
[14:17] <ArmyMan007> wilee-nilee: there's only one OFFICIAL tutorial given by the Ubuntu Dev team, and that's the one i've been working on. to sum up all of your questions: yes... and no, it didn't work
[14:17] <Guest31777> so i've been getting all kinds of contradictory info off the web... I have a bcm4313 wifi chip... which driver supports that device?
[14:17] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, what do you see when you open your sound prefs
[14:17] <ArmyMan007> johnsnow: can't imagine... worked with previous versions before just fine, gotta work now again
[14:17] <fantaghir> any ideas why my printer scans but doesn t print, please?
[14:17] <wilee-nilee> ArmyMan007, I will take your word on that good luck.
[14:17] <hipitihop> bekks, maybe it's a long shot, thinking the wrong driver is being assigned.
[14:17] <paulens12> so, i need only boot and swap partitions?
[14:18] <johnsnow> ArmyMan007, im quite dissapointed with ubuntu 12 tbh
[14:18] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: i get the output alright
[14:18] <paulens12> so, i need only boot and swap partitions?
[14:18] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, you mean you select an output device
[14:18] <bekks> hipitihop: The driver is irrelevant when passing it through to vbox.
[14:18] <ArmyMan007> johnsnow: i'm quite dissappointed with ubuntu ever since it moved to unity
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hey all
[14:18] <ThinkT510> paulens12: root is the only required partition (swap is advised)
[14:18] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: yes, i can select an output device
[14:18] <paulens12> ok...
[14:19] <paulens12> can root be logical?..
[14:19] <fantaghir> ArmyMan007, we don t use unity
[14:19] <ThinkT510> paulens12: yes
[14:19] <ArmyMan007> i'm about to switch to gnome, but i want to fix this first
[14:19] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, you are already using gnome
[14:19] <paulens12> ok thx
[14:19] <paulens12> xD
[14:19] <hipitihop> bekks, so any ideas why that error ? since other devices like usb flash drives etc are fine, so it is not a general issue with my vb setup
[14:19] <paulens12> and swap must be
[14:19] <paulens12> RAM size?
[14:19] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: for all i know i'm using unity, as long as i have that dashboard on the side i use unity
[14:19] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, you'll find the same kind of prefs there, i mean in gnome shell
[14:20] <paulens12> someone said it should be bigger..
[14:20] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, unity is a shell for gnome3 like gnome shell is
[14:20] <ArmyMan007> but that doesn't matter right now
[14:20] <ThinkT510> paulens12: if you want hibernate to work swap must be bigger than ram
[14:20] <ArmyMan007> can we please stay on topic?
[14:20] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, yeah ok
[14:20] <bekks> hipitihop: Which error...? Whats the full, exact error message when doing what exactly? You may also change to #vbox before ;)
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> swap only has to be equal to ram
[14:20] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, what is your audio hardware?
[14:20] <bkc_> paulens12: de facto standard for swap-size is 2x ram-size :) but that's only if you want suspend/hibernate
[14:21] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: can we pm over this?
[14:21] <bekks> bkc_: Which is not true.
[14:21] <bkc_> bekks: ?
[14:21] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: RealTek or something like that
[14:21] <hipitihop> bekks, the specific error is "Failed to create a proxy device for the USB device. (Error: VERR_READ_ERROR)." &  "Result Code: NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) Component:  Console Interface:  IConsole {1968b7d3-e3bf-4ceb-99e0-cb7c913317bb}"
[14:21] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, better keep it in here
[14:21] <paulens12> ok thanks bkc_ xD
[14:21] <bekks> bkc_: That 2x-RAM fairytale was true 15 years ago.
[14:21] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, you can do:  lspci | grep audio  in a terminal if you want
[14:21] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: can you please remind me how to check my audio hardware?
[14:21] <bkc_> bekks: sure, but it still depends on how much ram you got...
[14:22] <wilee-nilee> hipitihop, Are you familiar with pastebin?
[14:22] <bekks> bkc_: For everything > 2GB RAM thats just wasting space. Your computer will be dead slow because ofo the I/O caused by swapping before you even need more than 1x RAM for swap.
[14:22] <hipitihop> wilee-nilee, yes, sorry was that too long ?
[14:23] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: doesn't return anything
[14:23] <bekks> hipitihop: whoch vbox version very exactly?
[14:23] <bkc_> bekks: as I said, it depends on how much ram you got...
[14:23] <hansrodtang> Anyone know a good server/channel for PyGobject talk?
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> hipitihop, Probably okay right now when the channel is slow but pastebin is preferred. ;)
[14:23] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, hmm, then try a:  aplay -l
[14:23] <bazhang> !alis | hansrodtang
[14:23] <ArmyMan007> Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[14:24] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: good enough:?
[14:24] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, eyap
[14:24] <hipitihop> latest, 4.1.22
[14:24] <kostkon> yeap*
[14:24] <bekks> hipitihop: The latest version is 4.2.0
[14:24] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: ok.. now what?
[14:24] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, and you checked all the available volume levels?
[14:25] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, at least in your sound prefs
[14:25] <mschr> ok, in unity - where is the old gnome-panel menu list of programs hiding? HUD service has the 'installed programs' list, which is all mangled up, only sorted by alpha's
[14:25] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: in both sound prefs and alsamixer
[14:25] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, hmm
[14:25] <mschr> gnome2 had 'preferences', 'administration', 'internet', 'utilities' etc
[14:26] <mschr> how to get em back?
[14:26] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, in your sound prefs, did you try all the combinations of connectors, profiles, etc?
[14:26] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: such as?
[14:26] <bekks> mschr: You cant get them back unless using gnome2 again.
[14:27] <mschr> bekks im having f*n trouble even finding executable of synaptics!
[14:27] <bazhang> mschr, install gnome-panel
[14:27] <bekks> mschr: Did you install it?
[14:27] <bazhang> !notunity | mschr
[14:27] <ArmyMan007> mschr: how would you ever use synaptics?! hasen't it been removed ever since 11.04?!
[14:28] <mschr> armyman007 whatever name it has now then (which is?)
[14:28] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, sorry, i was thinking of the old prefs. did you try all the available modes?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> synaptic is still in the repos
[14:28] <bekks> BluesKaj: synaptic isnt synaptics :)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> synaptiks perhaps , bekks
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:29] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, if you put something playing in totem, e.g. an mp3 file, do you see totem listed in the applications tab in the sound prefs?
[14:29] <AssociateX> When I click on Dash home my xserver crashes and returns me to the login screen. I've searched but only found one other person with this problem and no solution. What should I look at? Thank you.
[14:29] <ArmyMan007> hang on a moment
[14:30] <mschr> ahuh, software-center
[14:30] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, ok. also, in alsamixer, did you see any switches and did you try to set them on or off?
[14:30] <bazhang> bekks, one is a package manager: synaptic, the other gsynaptics , is a device pointer manager
[14:31] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: with alsamixer i've raised everything really high and unmuted everything
[14:31] <bazhang> ArmyMan007, what is PCM set to. dont set it at max/ try 80
[14:31] <mschr> bazhang yea i know i can run the old styled session
[14:32] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: i see it in the application, playing a sound
[14:32] <mschr> bazhang all im saying really is, the new UI is... not very userfriendly. search is awesome however if you dont know what to search for - youre kinda fubar
[14:33] <ArmyMan007> set PCM to 80
[14:33] <ArmyMan007> sound still doesn't work
[14:33] <bazhang> mschr, so use something else
[14:33] <ArmyMan007> *dosen't
[14:33] <ArmyMan007> or whatever..
[14:33] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, that's good. alsamixer actually has 3 view modes. did you press F5 to enable the all view mode in order to be sure that you checked all the volume levels and switches that are available?
[14:34] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: what levels should i raise all of the volumes?
[14:35] <torpor> hi there
[14:35] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, try raising all of them yes. and try all the possible combinations and possible states of the switches
[14:36] <torpor> can someone tell me if there is a way to query the apt database to find out what packages are using a particularly library, or in other words "what depends on X" where X is a package?  I want to list all apps in the apt repo that, for example, utilize libbox2d
[14:36] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: nope, nothing
[14:36] <ArmyMan007> raised it all up and nothing worked out
[14:36] <bazhang> torpor, the depends?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> bekks, too many similar named apps with different uses , guess I should have scrolled to see the context in which it was used.
[14:37] <torpor> bazhang: i want to know what is linked to box2d, for example.  so i could query "what packages depend on X" somehow?
[14:37] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, press F3 and then F4 now, instead of F5 and recheck
[14:38] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: what about it? i can't see and diffrence from the last time in terms of volume
[14:39] <bazhang> torpor, something like apt-cache showpkg packagename?
[14:39] <torpor> that shows the details about the package, but i want to know: what depends on this package?
[14:40] <bazhang> torpor, the depends and reverse depends is what it shows
[14:40] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, F3 is the playback mode and F4 is the capture mode. did you try to right scroll by pressing the right key? it may reveal more volume levels you havent seen
[14:40] <torpor> ok, so that means only one package in the entire ubuntu repo's uses box2d, and its numptyphysics?  okay then ..
[14:41] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: I get the same thing... I'm gonna restart the OS for a sec...
[14:41] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, ok
[14:43] <Virunga> Hi, i'd like to know if is it possible imposing to not install particular dependency of package?
[14:44] <Virunga> For example i have a package which depend on ruby1.8, and i don't want it installed. Can i avoid it?
[14:44] <jrib> Virunga: why do you want to do that?  Dependencies are dependencies for a reason
[14:44] <Virunga> It's complicated.
[14:44] <jrib> Virunga: so explain it
[14:44] <kostkon> Virunga, if it's a ruby app then it need ruby to run?
[14:44] <kostkon> needs*
[14:46] <Virunga> I'm learning provisioning using virtualized machines and i had to install ruby1.9 manually.
[14:47] <Virunga> That's a brief description :).
[14:47] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: something worked for a moment: I restarted the computer and the login sound played. after I logged in nothing else worked. when I restarted the computer again, the sound siappeared
[14:47] <ArmyMan007> *disappeard
[14:47] <jrib> Virunga: isn't ruby1.9 in the repositories?
[14:47] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, hmm
[14:48] <johnsnow> I want to help a designer to code his template,anyone?
[14:48] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, does:  ps -A | grep pulseaudio  output anything
[14:48] <jrib> johnsnow: I don't understand what you are asking for
[14:48] <johnsnow> jrib, i dont ask,it's an offer
[14:49] <jrib> johnsnow: this channel is for ubuntu technical support; not really for that
[14:49] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: 1803 ?        00:00:00 pulseaudio
[14:49] <johnsnow> jrib, i understand
[14:49] <Virunga> Is this possible?
[14:49] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, ok, now give:  pulseaudio -k
[14:49] <jrib> johnsnow: maybe you can get some hints in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:50] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, and then:  pulseaudio -D
[14:50] <johnsnow> jrib, thanks, i just wasnt sure where to stark
[14:50] <johnsnow> jrib, thanks, i just wasnt sure where to start
[14:50] <jrib> Virunga: it's possible.  But I still don't see why you would want to do it.  Why did you install ruby1.9 "manually"?  Isn't it in the repositories?
[14:50] <ArmyMan007> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[14:50] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: same with the K after i pressed it 3 times
[14:51] <Virunga> jrib: if i explain that the will you tell how to do that?
[14:51] <Virunga> *then
[14:51] <jrib> Virunga: explain it if you want me to try to help you. I'm just trying to give you the best advice I can so you don't end up with a broken system.
[14:51] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, hmm strange. give pulseaudio -D again.  check if ps -A | grep pulseaudio outputs anything now
[14:52] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: 2403 ?        00:00:00 pulseaudio
[14:52] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, ok. check the sound now
[14:53] <ArmyMan007> still nothing kostkon, been playing the same song
[14:53] <ArmyMan007> let me restart
[14:53] <ArmyMan007> bb in a sec
[14:53] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, no w8
[14:53] <ArmyMan007> yeha?
[14:53] <ArmyMan007> w8 4 wat? :P
[14:53] <ArmyMan007> lol... gotta love gangster typing :P
[14:53] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, in the sound prefs, how many devices are listed in the output tab?
[14:54] <ArmyMan007> 2: 1 digital output and 1 headset
[14:54] <ArmyMan007> HOLY SHIT
[14:54] <Virunga> jrib: i didn't install ruby1.9 myself, a tool for creating virtualbox images made it. I just took it like that because i was hurry.
[14:54] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, :P
[14:54] <ArmyMan007> headphone prefernces work!!!
[14:54] <ArmyMan007> T__T
[14:54] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, nice. for some strange reason you had to select the headphones :P
[14:54] <jrib> Virunga: so why don't you just use ruby1.8 the way the package wants?
[14:54] <jrib> Virunga: you should be able to have both versions of ruby installed
[14:55] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: for some reason I didn't chose them... who choses headphones as their main sound option?!
[14:55] <ArmyMan007> :P
[14:55] <ArmyMan007> welll koston, I have to admit... I was just plain silly on this one :P
[14:56] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, actually, are you sure that you have connected the speakers to the right port?
[14:56] <Virunga> jrib: because then i should understand how to let use ruby 1.9 to a series of tools and i don't know how.
[14:56] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: I have only one port :P
[14:56] <Virunga> jrib: could you tell the command to do that thing please?
[14:56] <jrib> uby1.9?
[14:56] <jrib> erm
[14:56] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, interesting
[14:57] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: lol... appreantly when it comes to Ubuntu I got 2 ports :P
[14:57] <jrib> Virunga: what do you mean? why do you need ruby 1.9 instead of 1.8?  What tools?
[14:57] <ArmyMan007> so now I'm using the so-called "speakers" connection
[14:57] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, yeah, it seems.
[14:57] <Virunga> jrib: are you kidding me?
[14:57] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: :D
[14:57] <jrib> Virunga: no
[14:57] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, it works, you have sound, problem solved! :P
[14:58] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: not yet... we still have 1 more problem...
[14:58] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, in the audio department?
[14:58] <Virunga> jrib: there incompatibilities between ruby1.8 and ruby1.9 so some script could not work.
[14:58] <ArmyMan007> kostkon: yes... check this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kVqLNF-RqU
[14:59] <ArmyMan007> It's the music I've been playing in our test run... isn't this song amazing?! :P
[14:59] <jrib> Virunga: so use ruby 1.9. It's in the repositories.  What package is it that you are trying to install?
[14:59] <ArmyMan007> But all jokes aside, yes... no more problems for me :)
[14:59] <ArmyMan007> now onward to work on the XBMC thingy... :P
[15:00] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, lol. i wish you good luck then :P
[15:00] <Virunga> jrib: why don't you write the command i could you to make me a favor?
[15:00] <Virunga> *use
[15:00] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, the song is nice
[15:00] <ArmyMan007> Thanks a bunch for everything kostkon, hope to see you here soon! :D
[15:00] <jrib> Virunga: what?
[15:00] <kostkon> ArmyMan007, no prob. cu :)
[15:01] <TomM2> Does anyone have the drivers for the Creative Labs SB0410, I am running ubuntu 11.10 32-bit
[15:01] <jrib> Virunga: I'm still trying to understand what it is that you even want to do.  I understand now you want to program in ruby1.9 and presumably want to use a certain library/tool with it.  What library/tool?
[15:01] <Virunga> jrib: no, i wrote a clear question at the beginnig.
[15:01] <Virunga> jrib: you are making fun of me.
[15:01] <victor__> hi... what's the CLI command to update 12.04 to the latest beta? i thought it was "update-manager -d" that didnt do the trick
[15:02] <Virunga> I'm here because i thought this was a place to get help.
 I'm learning provisioning using virtualized machines and i had to install ruby1.9 manually.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> TomM2, explain your issue rather than quoting hardware
[15:02] <bazhang> Virunga, thats it?
[15:02] <Virunga> no Hi, i'd like to know if is it possible imposing to not install particular dependency of package?
[15:02] <bekks> Virunga: What exactly is the connection between ruby 1.9 and provisioning in virtualized environments?
[15:02] <Virunga> Maybe i should write "and how"
[15:02] <jrib> Virunga: you wrote a non-specific question.  I can't help you if you are not specific.  There is no way to change the dependencies of a package unless you rebuild the package.  There is no way to to ignore dependencies because unless you use dirty hacks like equivs (which will then leave you with a semi-broken system if you don't know what you are doing). I don't know why you don't just say specifically what
[15:03] <jrib> it is that you want to do
[15:03] <bazhang> Virunga, and you never answered why
[15:03] <bazhang> Virunga, so lets lose the attitude
[15:03] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Well I need the drivers for it as there is no sound coming from the speakers when using the card, I tried lspci and it is not detecting it I don't know if that's normal?
[15:03] <jrib> s/because//
[15:03] <BluesKaj> TomM2, run aplay -l
[15:04] <jrib> victor__: #ubuntu+1 can help you with that
[15:04] <TomM2> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265819/
[15:05] <victor__> jrib: thanks
[15:07] <duhamel> i have andromouse server as an executable .jar file and i want to have it run at startup. i have xubuntu 12.04. i am wondering about how to create an autostart.sh and putting it into init. any help would be awesome.
[15:07] <jrib> !upstart | duhamel
[15:07] <jrib> duhamel: if you want to do it properly, create an upstart job for it.  See the docs at that site, especially the cookbook
[15:07] <BluesKaj> TomM2,
[15:07] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[15:07] <BluesKaj> then turn those controls up to the max.
[15:08] <duhamel> i kind of checked that out, but it looks complicated to set up and im kinda noob.
[15:08] <dr_willis> i think thet cookbook link on the upstart page gives such an example  duhamel
[15:08] <Virunga> jrib: i got that my intension isn't the right way to proceed. Anyway, thank you for your help.
[15:08] <TomM2> BluesKaj, One second.
[15:08] <dr_willis> duhamel:  or run it from /etc/rc.local as a quick and dirty way
[15:09] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Everything is unmuted.
[15:10] <duhamel> well, I'll check out upstart first and if I have troubles I'll be back. thank you all.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> TomM2, ok , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , if there's no output then the module/driver is loaded properly
[15:12] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Intel is my onboard sound card I am trying to get my creative labs 7.1 sound card working.
[15:15] <krababbel> TomM2: why do you want the creative card?
[15:15] <TomM2> krababbel, Because I am setting up a 7.1 surround system.
[15:16] <krababbel> your intel onboard is not 7.1? nevermind then
[15:16] <Cobra-Tn> Software Like "Sony Vegas" On Ubuntu "Video Editor"
[15:16] <TomM2> My intel is 5.1
[15:16] <TomM2> I think.
[15:16] <krababbel> TomM2: do you use digital cables?
[15:16] <ThinkT510> Cobra-Tn: i like openshot
[15:16] <xlinux> hi
[15:17] <krababbel> TomM2: do you use one cable, or more?
[15:17] <TomM2> krababbel, More.
[15:17] <krababbel> TomM2: can't you connect digitally? no digital input?
[15:18] <TomM2> It's just the standard sound connector.
[15:18] <krababbel> TomM2: I meant on the amplifier, a digital coax looks the same, but needs only one cable
[15:19] <krababbel> RCA I mean
[15:19] <TomM2> Oh.
[15:19] <TomM2> Yes.
[15:19] <drupin> i want to change host name
[15:20] <krababbel> TomM2: If you have digital input for the amplifier or speakers and output on the intel, then you can use the intel
[15:20] <drupin> sudo sed -i 's/drupin/Ubuntu/g' /etc/$i; this is giving sed: couldn't edit /etc/: not a regular file
[15:20] <drupin> bekks: its not working
[15:20] <TomM2> krababbel, Okay.
[15:20] <krababbel> TomM2: in case there are no working drivers for the creative
[15:20] <duhamel> hope I'm not annoying anyone but how would i use upstart? is it terminal or gui?
[15:21] <bekks> drupin: Of, because it is wrong. Where do you got that from?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> TomM2, I'm trying to find the chip the the creative labs card uses , any idea , I thought they were intels
[15:21] <drupin> whe i asked you yesterday... theAdmin gave it i guess bekks
[15:21] <bekks> drupin: I bet he gave you the correct command :)
[15:22] <TomM2> I thought they used their own chips.
[15:22] <bekks> drupin: Because thats only a snippet.
[15:22] <dr_willis> creative has sort of dropped the ball on linuc support over the last few years. ;(
[15:22] <drupin> bekks: <theadmin> drupin:  for i in hostname hosts ; do sudo sed -i 's/drupin/ubuntu/g' /etc/$i ; done
[15:22] <AssociateX> So, unity crashes and goes to the login screen when ever I click the Dash home button. I looked at /ver/log/Xorg.0.log and saw this: [  8595.308] Warning: Xalloc: requesting unpleasantly large amount of memory: 0 bytes.
[15:22] <bekks> drupin: Thats a complete command. You missed the for .. done parts.
[15:23] <duhamel> i have andromouse server as an executable .jar file and i want to have it run at startup. i have xubuntu 12.04. i am wondering about how to use upstart.
[15:23] <AssociateX> and in /ver/log/Xorg.0.log.old :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265827/
[15:23] <dr_willis> duhamel:  the cookbook link on the upstart docs page waaas vert detailed with examples
[15:23] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Apparently it's "CA0106-DAT audio chipset"
[15:24] <mschr> whats the new graphical sudo called? firing 'gksu' blanks my screen black, showing only the password dialog in layer
[15:24] <BluesKaj> TomM2, also if you change the audio codec options in the bios to use the pci card instaed of the onboard , then, lspci | grep ausio,  might show it
[15:24] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep audio rather , TomM2
[15:24] <ThinkT510> mschr: gksudo for graphical apps
[15:25] <drupin> bekks: it gives ... bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
[15:25] <TomM2> BluesKaj, It does not detect the creative sound card :s
[15:25] <bekks> drupin: Whats the exact command you are typing?
[15:25] <SS01> hey, is it possible to run Ubuntu on an android tablet? I dont mind rooting/unlocking bootloader
[15:25] <BluesKaj> it meaning the bios , TomM2 ?
[15:25] <TomM2> I don't know.
[15:26] <drupin> bekks: sudo sed -i 's/drupin/Ubuntu/g' /etc/$i ; done
[15:26] <BluesKaj> or the lspci | grep audio command , TomM2 ?
[15:26] <mschr> thinkt510 is same story as with gksu
[15:26] <bekks> drupin: WRONG.
[15:27] <drupin> ok
[15:27] <bekks> 1007 172235 < drupin> bekks: <theadmin> drupin:  for i in hostname hosts ; do sudo sed -i 's/drupin/ubuntu/g' /etc/$i ; done
[15:27] <TomM2> BluesKaj, It outputs nothing.
[15:27] <bekks> drupin: DONT omit parts of the command after "drupin:"
[15:27] <ThinkT510> mschr: what are you trying to do?
[15:27] <mschr> thinkt510 getting a #000 background with a dialog on top
[15:27] <drupin> it starts from for? bekks
[15:27] <Asphyxium> I know this isn't supported but could anyone please help me with getting Ubuntu 12.10's installer to boot from a USB drive?  I mounted the ISO and copied all the data with Windows 7 XCOPY.  It all shows up on the drive but my computer says the boot manager is missing.
[15:28] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | Asphyxium
[15:28] <mschr> thinkt510 same logic as when installing a package - password is needed, show dialog for entering it, run APP in sudo
[15:28] <mschr> in this case, wireshark
[15:28] <bazhang> Asphyxium, sure it's supported. with unetbootin
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> SS01, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009  not a true dualboot I believe
[15:28] <bekks> drupin: It starts after "drupin:"
[15:28] <ThinkT510> mschr: what?
[15:28] <Asphyxium> unetbootin?
[15:29] <bazhang> Asphyxium, that among other tools
[15:29] <satellit_e> use USB startup disk creator from live to write the USB
[15:29] <bazhang> !usb | Asphyxium
[15:29] <guest08374> I have a weird issue: I have used glftpd since Ubuntu 10.10 and I upgraded incremently to 12.04 recently which caused glftpd to corrupt files as they are sent
[15:29] <mschr> thinkt510 simple, creating a launcher for 'sudo wireshark'
[15:29] <Asphyxium> ok
[15:29] <ThinkT510> mschr: i don't think this channel supports wireshark
[15:29] <Asphyxium> So startup disk creator is a windows executable inside a directory somewhere in the data I copied?
[15:30] <guest08374> I have done a lot of troubleshooting if someone has any ideas they wanna run
[15:30] <satellit_e> no it is on Ubuntu CD
[15:30] <BluesKaj> TomM2, where did you find the reference to the CA0106-DAT audio chipset ?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Asphyxium: startup disk creator is NOT a windows.exe
[15:30] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Google.
[15:30] <SS01> wilee-nilee: I was looking for a more traditional, wipe-the-memory install
[15:30] <SS01> but thanks anyway :)
[15:31] <Asphyxium> I'll try unetbootin
[15:31] <Asphyxium> Thanks!
[15:31] <Asphyxium> You guys are great.
[15:31] <drupin> bekks: for i in hostname hosts ; do sudo sed -i 's/drupin/ubuntu/g' /etc/$i ; done
[15:31] <BluesKaj> TomM2, well , then your card isn't being detected at all, and finding the right driver for it won't help. The bios option is the only way i can think of atm...anyone else have a suggestion ?
[15:31] <mschr> thinkt510 it really have got nothing to do with wireshark.. is just a usecase for when a graphical app needs root rights
[15:31] <bekks> drupin: correct.
[15:31] <drupin> ok
[15:31] <TomM2> BluesKaj, What would I do in the BIOS?
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> SS01, Are not we all I have a nexus and have considrerd this, the boot is grub so it seems possible, you would need a bluetooth keyboard at the least.
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> nexus 7
[15:32] <Asphyxium> One last question
[15:32] <ThinkT510> mschr: i've never needed to create a launcher which gives a graphical app root
[15:32] <Asphyxium> Why in the WORLD does copying perfectly every file in an ISO to a boot medium fail while burning the iso to a boot medium works?
[15:32] <bazhang> Asphyxium, using dd?
[15:33] <dr_willis> Asphyxium: copying how exactly
[15:33] <iceroot> Asphyxium: 1. you copy it wrong or 2. its not an hybrid iso
[15:33] <Asphyxium> No Xcopy or the windows GUI (explorer)
[15:33] <bazhang> Asphyxium, hybrid iso and dd
[15:33] <Asphyxium> ok
[15:33] <iceroot> Asphyxium: its the wrong way
[15:33] <BluesKaj> TomM2, change the audio codec options or audio options in the bios to use the pci card instead of the onboard
[15:33] <Asphyxium> I'll have to research ISO types
[15:33] <SS01> wilee-nilee: yeah, I can do the keyboard. What if I just booted the ARM version of ubuntu from SD/USB/netboot/whatever then messed with the boot loader to load ubuntu as it would Android?
[15:33] <Asphyxium> what's dd?
[15:33] <iceroot> Asphyxium: just use dd to copy the file
[15:33] <bazhang> Asphyxium, or just dont use windows tools for that
[15:33] <mschr> thinkt510 gksu still works... but its just.. crazy slow and the overlay is not transparent in unity-2d
[15:33] <dr_willis> thats not imageing the iso to the usb Asphyxium
[15:33] <satellit_e> boot from the Ubuntu CD and use the USB Startup Disk Creator
[15:34] <iceroot> Asphyxium: or use "unetbootin" or "usbcreator"
[15:34] <mschr> thinkt510 so, i bet there's an alternative :)
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> SS01, Not sure to be honest, I have been to busy with grad work to mess around other then to root it and tryout roms.
[15:34] <Asphyxium> Perhaps there's hidden files (the command line interface doesn't share my GUI settings)
[15:34] <Asphyxium> ok
[15:34] <Asphyxium> Trying unetbootin
[15:34] <mschr> my framebuffer is 4k x 1k and it takes a lot of gpu to draw everything, even if only black - every pixel gets damaged
[15:35] <Asphyxium> thanks dr w
[15:35] <drecute> Does anyone have any tip on why this custom grub hangs at the prompt: http://codepad.org/zuxv0pxQ
[15:35] <SS01> wilee-nilee: okay - I'll try and report back
[15:35] <dr_willis> Asphyxium: pendrivelinux website has dozens of tools and guides
[15:35] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:35] <SS01> I suppose we could even wipe the bootloader with GRUB..
[15:35] <Asphyxium> ok I'll try that was an alternative if unetbootin doesn't work
[15:35] <Asphyxium> *as
[15:35] <ady> why my ubuntu  12.04 lts not support tar
[15:35] <Asphyxium> Thanks
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> SS01, I believe the bootloader is grub, grub legacy
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> at least on my nexus 7
[15:36] <SS01> oh
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> hidden though.
[15:36] <ThinkT510> drecute: hd0,0 doesn't look right
[15:37] <guest08374> can anyone help me understand why grub breaks each time i do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade...each kernel update breaks grub making me rescue disk to fix it
[15:37] <ThinkT510> drecute: with grub2 harddrives start at 0 and partitions start at 1
[15:37] <ady> after download aircrack.ng n using common not   support (tar)
[15:37] <vivek> hi
[15:38] <Joy0x3806> hi
[15:38] <AssociateX> I see a lot of gnome stuff is already install, what do I need to install to have gnome as an option at the login screen?
[15:38] <AssociateX> 12.04lts
[15:38] <ThinkT510> AssociateX: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:38] <AssociateX> thank you.
[15:38] <ady> yes ubuntu 12.04 lts
[15:39] <ady> i try it
[15:39] <Joy0x3806> Booting from USB, ubuntu server install, I got black screen & white cursor
[15:40] <Joy0x3806> I used universal usb installer and unetbooting... same results :(
[15:40] <Joy0x3806> help?
[15:40] <ady> ady@ady-G31T-M7:~$ su
[15:40] <ady> Password:
[15:40] <ady> root@ady-G31T-M7:/home/ady# sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:40] <ady> Reading package lists... Done
[15:40] <ady> Building dependency tree
[15:40] <FloodBot1> ady: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <ady> Reading state information... Done
[15:40] <drecute> ThinkT510: Thanks. But I'm on grub 0.98
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > Joy0x3806
[15:40] <ThinkT510> drecute: why so old?
[15:41] <ady> sorry flood
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> ady, You use sudo to get root not in root
[15:42] <Joy0x3806> thank you
[15:43] <llutz> ady: 1st why do you use sudo when having an active root account? 2nd why did you enable root-account 3rd what does "apt-cache policy tar |grep -i insta" say
[15:43] <wilee-nilee> ady, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell will install you don't have to get to root first
[15:43] <drecute> ThinkT510: I don't know. That's what comes with the kernel I'm using
[15:44] <ThinkT510> drecute: what is the output of lsb_release -sd
[15:45] <drecute> ThinkT510: CentOS 6.3 final ):
[15:45] <ThinkT510> drecute: we only suppirt ubuntu here
[15:45] <ThinkT510> support
[15:45] <llutz> ady: and  4. why don't you use aircrack-ng from repos?
[15:46] <ThinkT510> !find aircrack
[15:46] <aflaouras> Hey! How can i add a second ctrl key with the same fuctionality ? Both ctrl_l and ctr_r doesn't work and i am thinking to change fn key as ctrl_l
[15:46] <drecute> ThinkT510: I know. I just think the problem is more generic
[15:46] <ady> dont install aircrack.ng tar for common
[15:46] <ThinkT510> drecute: /join #centos
[15:47] <llutz> forget 4., it seem to be removed from repos
[15:48] <ady> why
[15:48] <uxmanz> can any body help me with squashfs .... build and mod
[15:48] <hosinisonfatmito> Ya shabeb badde mose3ade
[15:48] <ady> what can i do now
[15:48] <hosinisonfatmito> Fi 7ada
[15:48] <hosinisonfatmito> Ya shabeb
[15:48] <llutz> ady:  what does "apt-cache policy tar |grep -i insta" say
[15:48] <bazhang> hosinisonfatmito, stop that
[15:48] <David8654861> Hello
[15:49] <David8654861> Can someone possibly help?
[15:49] <hosinisonfatmito> Ane 3am botlob mose3ade
[15:49] <uxmanz> yea david
[15:49] <hosinisonfatmito> Habibi ane ma azdi Shi
[15:49] <L3top> Not without a question David8654861
[15:49] <hosinisonfatmito> Bas baddi hada ysaedni
[15:49] <bazhang> hosinisonfatmito, english here
[15:50] <hosinisonfatmito> Bas Ana ma efham elek
[15:50] <uxmanz> hosinisonfatmito,....habibi english
[15:50] <joel135> Hi, I'm considering encrypting my home directory, but as my computer is fairly slow already, I need to know the encryption won't consume a lot of resources. What are your experiences?
[15:50] <agata> agata
[15:50] <ady>  Installed: 1.26-4ubuntu1
[15:50] <ady>   Candidate: 1.26-4ubuntu1
[15:50] <ady>   Version table:
[15:50] <ady>  *** 1.26-4ubuntu1 0
[15:50] <ady>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[15:50] <FloodBot1> ady: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <ady>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:51] <aflaouras> any advice?
[15:51] <David8654861> I'm using Empathy for IRC, I'm connected to this channel and a channel on the GIMP network. Both user lists are fine and I can see all users. But I'm on a friends IRC and the user list only shows my nick
[15:51] <David8654861> I'm a bit confused as to why that is
[15:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> David8654861: go to #help
[15:51] <L3top> Sounds like you are in a room of your own creation David8654861.
[15:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is ubuntu help
[15:51] <David8654861> Okay
[15:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> but yea, what l3 said
[15:51] <David8654861> Thanks
[15:52] <llutz> ady: what was your exact tar-command?
[15:52] <David8654861> There are users in the room and I see their messages, etc, fine. Just really strange
[15:53] <fidel_> David8654861: my quick guess: you are in channel A on network A but you think you are in channel A in network B
[15:53] <ThinkT510> David8654861: probably better to use a proper irc client like xchat
[15:53] <fidel_> David8654861: good luck debugging it in #help or #insert-your-client-if-it-exists ;)
[15:54] <David8654861> Yeah that sort of makes sense. I just like having everything together
[15:56] <ady> tar -zxvf aircrack-ng-1.1.tar.gz
[15:56] <llutz> ady: and the error you get?
[15:56] <ady> yes
[15:57] <ady> error
[15:57] <osse> How can I give my user permissions to mount samba partitions? Right now using 'Connect to server ...' only gives me an unhelpful error message. Running 'smbmount' as root works but then the file permission make things difficult
[15:57] <llutz> ady: what is the error you get?
[15:57] <bazhang> !paste | ady
[16:01] <aflaouras> Both ctrl_l and ctr_r doesn't work and i am thinking to change fn key as ctrl_l , any advice?
[16:01] <ady> Command line option 'z' [from -zxvf] is not known.
[16:01] <ady> ady@ady-G31T-M7:~$
[16:01] <jrib> aflaouras: you can do that using xmodmap
[16:02] <jrib> aflaouras: though that fn key may be special somehow... I don't know.  See what happens in xev
[16:02] <mschr> osse you need to mount things as root user (or via sudo). If nothing is set in options 'uid' then you chown files, using the root user (if password is required, also root pass is needed)
[16:02] <hashem> Is anyone else on 12.10 beta finding that they have significantly worse battery life than in 12.04?
[16:03] <jrib> hashem: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 discussion
[16:03]  * ady use  ubuntu 12.04 lts
[16:03] <chris_> Hey guys, anyone know how to install the KDE desktop on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:04] <jrib> !kde | chris_
[16:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> who killed irccloud :p
[16:04] <mschr> osse osse try 'mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password=******** //Host/Share /mnt/point'
[16:04] <chris_> jrib, thanks mate!
[16:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> server admin trip over the wire? ^^
[16:04] <ady> see ubuntu software canter
[16:05] <ady> how to install aircrack.ng?
[16:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/install.html http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack
[16:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: please google
[16:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: it was the first and 2nd result when i googled "how install aircracking"
[16:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
[16:07] <tryy3> how do i turn on/off X server?
[16:07] <ThinkT510> tryy3: sudo service lightdm stop
[16:07] <tryy3> k thanks
[16:09] <ady> yes
[16:09] <ady> i alrady download aircrack.ng
[16:09] <tryy3> ThinkT510 my screen is all purple?
[16:09] <pero_p> hi all
[16:09] <ThinkT510> tryy3: thats nice
[16:10] <tryy3> ThinkT510 no i mean i cant see anything else, how can i fix it?
[16:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: <_>
[16:10] <vibhav> ady: YOu can also install aircrack ng by typing "sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng" in a terminal
[16:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: you just turned off your gui
[16:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: you arent going to have any graphicals without a gui
[16:10] <pero_p> what's the default ubuntu deskttop name? it's like gnome3.4 but it not
[16:10] <tryy3> WhereIsMySpoon but i did sudo service lightdm start ?
[16:10] <ThinkT510> vibhav: no, not in 12.04
[16:11] <tryy3> WhereIsMySpoon i didn't do 'stop' i did 'start'
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> pero_p, unity
[16:11] <vibhav> WhereIsMySpoon: I dont think he stopped his gui
[16:12] <ThinkT510> !unity | pero_p
[16:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: try "sudo service lightdm restart"
[16:12] <vibhav> ThinkT510: What happens when you press Ctrl + Alt + F1?
[16:12] <tryy3> WhereIsMySpoon still nothing, it didn't even turn black or anything
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> pero_p, If you are having a problem you might state it for help.
[16:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: restart your pc
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have no clue what you've done
[16:13] <ThinkT510> vibhav: i get a tty, though i'm not sure why you are asking me
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> :S
[16:13] <tryy3> WhereIsMySpoon ok just gonna save some stuff
[16:13] <ady> $ sudo apt-get install tar -zxvf aircrack-ng-1.1.tar.gz
[16:13] <ady> [sudo] password for ady:
[16:13] <ady> E: Command line option 'z' [from -zxvf] is not known.
[16:13] <vibhav> ThinkT510: Oopes
[16:13] <pero_p> thanks all ;)
[16:13] <vibhav> ady: No
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: can you pastebin your .bashrc please?
[16:13] <pero_p> so i know what to search if i had problems ;)
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> wait hang on
[16:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> no
[16:13] <vibhav> ady: just type "sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng"
[16:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> why aer you doing install tar
[16:14] <ThinkT510> vibhav: aircrack-ng isn't in the 12.04 repos
[16:14] <vibhav> ThinkT510: sorry for that, it was meant for tryy3
[16:14] <tryy3> vibhav what was ment for me?
[16:14] <vibhav> tryy3: yes
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> pero_p, It is called unity but is in the repos the ubuntu-desktop
[16:15] <ady> Package 'aircrack-ng' has no installation candidate
[16:15] <vibhav> tryy3: What happens when you press Ctrl + Alt + F1?
[16:15] <tryy3> vibhav oh ok hold on
[16:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: It isnt in the repos
[16:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: please read what people are saying to you
[16:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ady: otherwise people just won't bother
[16:15] <tryy3> vibhav nothing
[16:15] <gyre008> where can I get apt-add-repo command from ? I mean the package
[16:15] <visored> the left side launcher bar sometimes goes blank, not allowing me to see the icons on it. is there a way to reload it without restarting?
[16:16] <gyre008> i tried to look for it but couldn't find anytihng
[16:16] <mschr> read http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=downloads : debian packages. add deb to /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update && apt-get install aircrack-ng
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> gyre008, What are you actually trying to do?
[16:16] <gyre008> add a repo ?
[16:16] <gyre008> http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/next-generation-ruby-packages-for-ubuntu
[16:17] <vibhav> tryy3: Try using nomodeset
[16:17] <vibhav> !nomodeset | tryy3
[16:17] <warren-hill> ady: aircrack-ng is in quantal here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/aircrack-ng could try install from deb
[16:17] <gyre008> ahh python-software-properties
[16:17] <wilee-nilee> gyre008, Half way down the page it tells you how
[16:18] <gyre008> jess wilee-nilee i know that…i just didn't have python properties package installed which contains the helper script..i was asking what package those scripts are in and now i know
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> install the ppa run a update and install, if the PPA supports your release
[16:19] <vibhav> tryy3: Can you try this boot technique?
[16:19] <tryy3> vibhav i will iam just trying to stop my servers ^_^
[16:20] <BluesKaj> TomM2, any luck with the bios ?
[16:20] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Nope.
[16:21] <w4|k3r> Need some help with Ubuntu 10.04
[16:21] <ady_> ctrl+alt+F1?
[16:22] <ady_> for what
[16:23] <w4|k3r> I am unable to open any page that is visible using Localhost
[16:23] <chris_> jrib, Thanks i have just installed the kubuntu desktop! Thanks for the help!
[16:23] <jrib> chris_: no problem
[16:24] <w4|k3r> jrib: anything that you can point me to
[16:24] <jrib> w4|k3r: I don't know what you mean
[16:24] <chris_> jrib, Its totally sweet, one more question tho i can go back to the default view at anytime by selecting the options on the login screen right?
[16:24] <jrib> chris_: exactly.  You can install as many desktop environments or window managers as you want and just select them at the login screen
[16:25] <chris_> jrib, REALLY! (Sorry i am new to linux and ubuntu) even cinamon from linux mint???
[16:25] <ThinkT510> chris_: cinnamon isn't supported
[16:25] <Sidewinder> chris_, It's all about choices. :-)
[16:26] <jrib> chris_: well, I don't know how easy it is to use that.  I meant things in the repositories :)
[16:26] <tryy3> vibhav hmm... i rebooted my desktop, and pressed ubuntu (iam dual-booting with windows) then i got a purple screen with the options 'ubuntu with linux ....' 'ubuntu with linux.... recovery mode
[16:26] <jrib> chris_: *default* repositories
[16:26] <BluesKaj> TomM2, there is one thing that might work  , alt+f2 , gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , at the bottom add this line , options  snd_emu10kx index=0, then save the file and a reboot is needed if ,sudo alsa force-reload , doesn't give any output in the terminal.
[16:26] <tryy3> vibhav so i pressed 'ubuntu with linux....' and it just went purple
[16:26] <chris_> thinced, Sidewinder, jrib Thanks for the reply, thats okay i am liking this desktop now, now the fun part time to customise!
[16:27] <jrib> chris_: enjoy
[16:27] <w4|k3r> Lamp server issue, help :(
[16:27] <chris_> jrib, Cheers!
[16:27] <jrib> w4|k3r: what exactly is the issue?
[16:27] <w4|k3r> from the localhost I can view the pages, but from outside I am unable to
[16:27] <mario_> Hello. How do I identify my Motherboard? I want to know all specs, but I cant do it because I do not have a manual and can`t search on internet because I do not know the model. Is there a command i can input in the Terminal?
[16:28] <jrib> w4|k3r: are you behind a router or firewall of some sort?
[16:28] <mario_> lshw does not show the model
[16:28] <w4|k3r> I am behind a router
[16:28] <jrib> w4|k3r: you need to forward port 80 on your router to your server
[16:28] <w4|k3r> ok, how do I do that
[16:29] <jrib> !portforward | w4|k3r
[16:29] <chris_> mario_, in ubuntu u can goto system settings, and in there there is an option that tells you system info ie chip set and graphics card
[16:29] <BluesKaj> mario_, sudo lshw
[16:29] <Sidewinder> mario_, Perhaps sudo lshw might list what you want.
[16:29] <chris_> hope that helps!
[16:29] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Did not work.
[16:29] <vibhav> tryy3: reboot you desktop
[16:29] <ThinkT510> jrib: sweet, never knew that factoid existed
[16:29] <BluesKaj> TomM2, does lspci show the card ?
[16:30] <vibhav> tryy3: and dont press Ubuntu with Linux
[16:30] <ThinkT510> !cookie | jrib
[16:30]  * jrib now has to go search for milk
[16:30] <tryy3> vibhav ok what should i press then?
[16:30] <TomM2> BluesKaj, Nope.
[16:30] <chris_> ThinkT510, I agree!
[16:30] <w4|k3r> Thanks a lot
[16:30] <chris_> !cookie | jrib
[16:31] <BluesKaj> TomM2, and you have no pci audio option in the bios ?
[16:31]  * w4|k3r thanks jrib 
[16:31] <jrib> w4|k3r: no problem
[16:32] <Bub> oh dear
[16:32] <vibhav> tryy3: With the arrow keys highlight Ubuntu with Linux and press 'e'
[16:32] <tryy3> vibhav oh... from here i know what to do i think :D
[16:32] <Bub> q
[16:32] <ThinkT510> Bub: you sound troubled, need ubuntu support?
[16:33] <Bub> yes, I am\
[16:33] <vibhav> tryy3: pressed 'e'?
[16:33] <tryy3> vibhav ye
[16:33] <Sidewinder> !details | Bub
[16:33] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder: he left
[16:34] <vibhav> tryy3: Not using the arrow keys navigate to the line which begins with "linux"
[16:34] <Sidewinder> Oops; I hate it when that happens; guess I oughta' turn on parts/joins.. :-/
[16:34] <tryy3> vibhav done
[16:35] <vibhav> tryy3: Also, are you sure you have *NOT* pressed 'e' for recover mode?
[16:35] <tryy3> vibhav pretty sure
[16:35] <wildintellect> mario_, sudo dmidecode | more will show everything is your hardware
[16:35] <vibhav> tryy3: ah okay, now navigate to the end of the line
[16:35] <wildintellect> the change to a > save.txt to put it in a text file for future reference
[16:35] <vibhav> (the line beginning with "linux")
[16:35] <ady_> how to install  fron deb using command
[16:36] <tryy3> vibhav done
[16:36] <PenguinCSC> ady_, what are you trying to install?
[16:36] <ady_> how  2 install aircrack  deb
[16:37] <vibhav> tryy3: Can you see something like "quiet splash" at the end of the line?
[16:37] <mschr> ady_ read http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=downloads : debian packages. add deb to /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update && apt-get install aircrack-ng
[16:37] <PenguinCSC> ady_, what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[16:37] <wildintellect> ady_, generally dpkg -i nameoffile.deb, but a repo is a better idea
[16:37] <osse> mschr: I get a message saying "only root can do that"
[16:37] <k1l> ady_: aircrack is not suported here
[16:37] <tryy3> vibhav ye "quiet splash vt...."
[16:37] <mschr> osse opened terminal?
[16:37] <k1l> ady_: if you _need_ aircrack you need to read yourself into the topic
[16:37] <ady_> ubuntu 12.0 lts
[16:38] <osse> mschr: Oh sorry, I only saw the last of your messages.
[16:38] <ady_> 12.04
[16:38] <ady_> lts
[16:38] <osse> mschr: So I should mount it as root and then chown the contents? Let me try
[16:38] <vibhav> tryy3: what is the last word in the line?
[16:38] <tryy3> vibhav handoff=7
[16:39] <nightmare365> hi guys ..wanted to ask which was the default chess game in ubuntu back in time when it used to come with chess by default
[16:39] <Sidewinder> ady_, There's also a #backtrack channel.
[16:39] <utabak> For an application I should install -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-100-100-100-m-90-iso10646-1
[16:39] <vibhav> tryy3: are you talking about the end of the line beginning with "linux"?
[16:39] <MikeWorth> Hi, my desktop died on me recently; I've now managed to get it to boot to the login screen, but it will not get any further. When I try to login the screen goes black and it then returns to the login screen. watching syslog over ssh has revealed "Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 4325495" which I guess is something to do with my encrypted home partition. This strikes me as odd bec
[16:39] <MikeWorth> ause over ssh I'm perfectly able to view and read my files. Can anyone help please?
[16:39] <utabak> how can install these font families: a couple more from above
[16:39] <tryy3> vibhav yes
[16:39] <utabak> afobe
[16:39] <osse> mschr: When I try to chown the mount point dir I get "Input/output error"
[16:41] <vibhav> tryy3: okay. So after handoff=7, type "nomodeset" (after a space
[16:41] <vibhav> )
[16:42] <tryy3> vibhav ok
[16:42] <mschr> osse seems like you have a mounted partition in that directory, unmount it first
[16:43] <tryy3> vibhav done
[16:43] <ady_> ubuntu r backtrack best
[16:43] <silverarrow> has anyone made blueman work in Ubuntu?
[16:43] <tryy3> vibhav now f10 to boot?
[16:43] <vibhav> tryy3: Now is the line beginning with "linux" ending with nomodeset?
[16:44] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, I did
[16:44] <tryy3> vibhav yes
[16:44] <vibhav> tryy3: Yes, boot
[16:44] <k1l> ady_: backtrack is not supported here
[16:44] <tryy3> vibhav so far, still purple
[16:44] <tryy3> vibhav nvm
[16:44] <ady_> ok sorry just say
[16:45] <ady_> tq
[16:45]  * ady_ newbee ubuntu 
[16:45] <tryy3> vibhav 'The system is running in low-graphics mode...' is this normal?
[16:45] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, you need to remove the existing Bluetooth first
[16:45] <osse> mschr: I thought you meant to do it while it was mounted. If it's not mounted and I do it then the permissions of the directory I want to mount it in just changes to root:root
[16:45] <vibhav> tryy3: Yes
[16:46] <Sidewinder> !backtrack > ady_
[16:46] <BluesKaj> TomM2, I noticed you haven't rebooted to check your bios , is this sound issue on a different computer ?
[16:46] <Sidewinder> :)
[16:47] <tryy3> vibhav now what, 'Run in low-graphics mode for just one session' 'Reconfigure graphics' 'Troubleshoot the error' 'Exit to console login' ?
[16:47] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: I am in lubuntu, there is only one manger I think?
[16:47] <mschr> osse the username you use is not the same as your local unix user?
[16:47] <mschr> *username in -o list of options
[16:48] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, it's been a while
[16:48] <osse> mschr: it is the same
[16:48] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: blueman works fine for me
[16:48] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, I remeber the Bluman site had a HOWTO
[16:48] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: how do you mange it?
[16:49] <silverarrow> I have my phone "visible", my computer visible, and
[16:49] <osse> mschr: right now I get anot Input/output error while trying to mount it, so I need to sort that out first before continuing
[16:49] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: i removed the gnome thingy and installed blueman, i prefer blueman
[16:49] <mschr> osse say, your user is Foo and mountpoint is /mnt/Bar, do this from terminal:
[16:49] <fever-^> how can i completely reinstall alsa,, and without pulse?
[16:49] <mschr> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=Foo,password=FoosPass //RemoteHost/Share /mnt/Bar
[16:49] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, try this: http://blueman-project.org/wiki/Installing_Blueman#Ubuntu
[16:49] <sandipan> HI
[16:50] <vibhav> tryy3: Run in Low graphics mmode for just 1 session
[16:50] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: I`ve been reding the how-to on their forum site
[16:50] <osse> mschr: yes that will work, however I need to be root to browse the files
[16:50] <vibhav> tryy3: YOu can then install the drivers for your graphics card which has caused the problem
[16:50] <vibhav> (through Ubuntu)
[16:50] <tryy3> vibhav oh ok
[16:51] <mdkess> I have a pair of Logitech G35 USB headphones, which supposedly support 7.1 sound. However I can't find the option in sound settings for anything beyond 2.0 - has anyone managed to get similar headphones working?
[16:51] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: I already have the package installed, and it is listed under preferances
[16:51] <tryy3> vibhav :S i think the screen might froze i can do anything :S
[16:51] <ady_> my ubuntu not support update why?
[16:51] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, you need to disable the gnome bluetooth manager first
[16:51] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: can you try to explain how you use it?
[16:51] <PenguinCSC> you probably have them both
[16:52] <mschr> osse shouldnt be the case..
[16:52] <fever-^> anyone know how to completely reinstall sound system?
[16:52] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: what do you mean, its pretty self explanitory
[16:52] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: I don`t think I have that in lubuntu, with the lxde desktop
[16:52] <AlanBell> ady_: what version and why do you say it won't support update?
[16:52] <silverarrow> ickey
[16:53] <k1l> ady_: there is no upgrade yet for the 12.04 (besides the 12.04.1 )
[16:53] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, run 'bluman-manager &' in a terminal
[16:53] <ady_> ubuntu 12.04 lts not support update (error)
[16:53] <fever-^> well you can get 12.10 with do-release-upgrade -d :p
[16:53] <AlanBell> ady_: where do you see that error and is that the precise text of the error?
[16:53] <k1l> fever-^: dont suggest that :(
[16:53] <ThinkT510> ady_: you really need to be a lot more clearer
[16:53] <silverarrow> k1l:  I think you can do release upgrade to beta 2 now
[16:54] <AlanBell> fever-^: why do you want to reinstall your sound system? is it broken?
[16:54] <vibhav> tryy3: The screen is still frozen?
[16:54] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: just because you can doesn't meant you should
[16:54] <k1l> silverarrow: suggest that to new users? i dont think so :/
[16:54] <ady_> how to upgrade get v12.10
[16:54] <k1l> ady_: its not final now. dont do that
[16:54] <Ali__1> hi
[16:54] <tryy3> vibhav ye i cant move anything
[16:54] <fever-^> it wasn't working for Urban Terror (game)
[16:54] <AlanBell> ady_: wait until the 18th of this month
[16:55] <Ali__1> i want a question
[16:55] <gordonjcp> fever-^: tried using aoss?
[16:55] <fever-^> AlanBell: i removed pulseaudio and now it seems theres no sound at all
[16:55] <ThinkT510> Ali__1: heres a question: what do you want?
[16:55] <Ali__1> i want to run some websites on single server
[16:55] <fever-^> even though i updated gstreamer-properties to use alsa
[16:55] <kyubotsu> ady_: discussion of version 12.10 @ #ubuntu+1
[16:55] <AlanBell> fever-^: in that case sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^  <- the ^ is important.
[16:56] <Ali__1> help me about this
[16:56] <vibhav> tryy3: Sorry, I am not very experienced with such problems. Maybe other people here can help you.
[16:56] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: http://imagebin.org/231209
[16:56] <AlanBell> Ali__1: /etc/apache2/sites-available is where the configuration files for multiple websites go
[16:57] <Ali__1> so can i change this on backtrack too?
[16:57] <k1l> !backtrack > Ali__1
[16:57] <tryy3> anyone can answer me how i can fix if a screen is getting frozen?
[16:58] <fever-^> AlanBell: then reboot, i assume? :)
[16:58] <Ali__1> backtrack is a ubuntu base linux too
[16:58] <ThinkT510> Ali__1: not supported here
[16:58] <k1l> Ali__1: see the bots msg
[16:58] <Ali__1> ok
[16:58] <AlanBell> fever-^: well log out and back in as a minimum, perhaps reboot. That should install all the required packages that were removed
[16:59] <fever-^> ok
[16:59] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, run this in a terminal: 'sudo dpkg -l | grep blueman'
[16:59] <silverarrow> sorry, I was a bit slow there http://imagebin.org/231210
[17:00] <osse> mschr: heh, now I can't get rid of the input/output error even when I'm attempting to mount it. Do you have any ideas?
[17:00] <mschr> reboot
[17:00] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, the error seems to state it is not installed, I don't have a bluetooth dongle here to check...
[17:00] <mschr> osse or try running sudo umount /mntpoint a number of times
[17:00] <fever-^_> hmm
[17:00] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: a missing "e" in blue
[17:00] <tryy3> anyone can answer me how i can fix if a screen is getting frozen?
[17:01] <osse> mschr: the mountpoint doesn't exist any longer :P
[17:01] <osse> I will reboot
[17:01] <fever-^_> it seems GNOME got removed and LXDE has no panel :>
[17:01] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: http://imagebin.org/231211
[17:02] <mschr> osse issue ' $ mount ' and find any of type smbfs or cifs
[17:03] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, how many bluetooth icons do you have in your panel?
[17:03] <silverarrow> one
[17:04] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC:  one for the actual app runing, and one taskbar icon
[17:04] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, and if you right-click the icon? Does it look like before or something else?
[17:05] <tryy3> anyone can answer me how i can fix if a screen is getting frozen?
[17:05] <osse> mschr: woops. I've rebooted both my computer and the server running samba. Same error when I try to mount
[17:06] <bekks> tryy3: Which screen?
[17:06] <tryy3> bekks nomodeset i belive
[17:06] <bekks> tryy3: "nomodeset" is not a screen. Which screen are you talking about?
[17:07] <tryy3> bekks hold on
[17:07] <ThinkT510> evidently his monitor
[17:07] <bekks> ThinkT510: :P
[17:07] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: I get a list of options, "turn bluetooth off", "setup new device"
[17:07] <PenguinCSC> tryy3, if you press ALT-F2, do you get a line to enter a command?
[17:08] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, is there an About option?
[17:09] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: the setup functions are greyed down in the app window, on taskbar, they seem to load a window which cashes with the ever so slight flicker
[17:09] <silverarrow> hmm
[17:10] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: Blueman applet 1.23
[17:10] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, have you rebooted or a least log out after installing Blueman?
[17:10] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: thanks, at least I know something is wrong now
[17:10] <silverarrow> yes,
[17:11] <silverarrow> rebooted
[17:12] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, is this an external dongle or built in to the motherboard?
[17:12] <silverarrow> built in, but I have a usb dongle some where
[17:13] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, is this a laptop?
[17:13] <tryy3> bekks sorry for the wait https://www.dropbox.com/s/x88ekgu9svu61vl/20121007_191149.jpg
[17:13] <silverarrow> yues
[17:13] <tryy3> PenguinCSC https://www.dropbox.com/s/x88ekgu9svu61vl/20121007_191149.jpg
[17:14] <PenguinCSC> tryy3, and that happened after what?
[17:16] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, I have a dongle somewhere. Let me reproduce the install
[17:16] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: maybe I should go on their forum and post
[17:16] <tryy3> PenguinCSC i edit the 'ubuntu with linux...' the line with linux i typed nomodeset at end, then i pressed F10 to boot, and i got 'The system is running in low-graphics mode...' and i pressed OK and then that window came up
[17:17] <PenguinCSC> tryy3, what was your original problem?
[17:18] <mschr> osso hmm.. as proof that service is working, try browsing it via nautilus fileexplorer (smb://HOST/)
[17:18] <tryy3> PenguinCSC i had a purple screen nothing else
[17:18] <mschr> osso otherwise, check these sample shares http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MPPC4vwL
[17:19] <escott> tryy3, sounds like you have an nvidia card. so you need to put nomodeset and you probably want to install the nvidia drivers
[17:19] <tryy3> escott correct, only problem is that this screen is frozen atm!
[17:20] <escott> tryy3, is the system completely frozen? does the capslock key cause the light to come on
[17:21] <tryy3> escott dont think the system is completly frozen cuz the screen went to sleep but i moved the mouse and it went on again, and capslock key causes the light to come on!
[17:21] <escott> tryy3, can you get to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1
[17:21] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: lsmod gave this: bluetooth  203466  22 btusb,rfcomm,bnep
[17:21] <diverdude> hello. I have installed program called haproxy. However when i run sudo /etc/init.d/haproxy start its not starting. what am I missing? I also need this program to run automatically on boot
[17:22] <tryy3> escott if tty1 is a command line then yes (iam on it now)
[17:22] <escott> tryy3, then i would suggest installing the nvidia drivers there (sorry i guess im catching up here)
[17:23] <escott> tryy3, the alternative is that you have one of those nvidia optimus systems in which case im not sure what if anything will work
[17:23] <escott> diverdude, sudo service haproxy start
[17:24] <tryy3> escott oh ok... how do i install the 'good' nvidia drivers then? if you need this information, i got a gtx 550ti
[17:24] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, what version of ubuntu are yo running?
[17:25] <escott> tryy3, jockey-text should find the right drivers for you
[17:25] <tryy3> escott ok i guess i wait until him/her answer me :D
[17:25] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: 12.04 and 12.10, and lubuntu
[17:25] <BluesKaj> !Optimus | tryy3
[17:26] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: it seems to behave the same
[17:26] <tryy3> BluesKaj ?
[17:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: go to nvidia's website
[17:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> tryy3: they have a nice interactive layout that makes it easy to choose drivers
[17:27] <PenguinCSC> silverarrow, I tried to install on on my 12.04 and the PPA does not include precise
[17:27] <escott> tryy3, "him/her"? jockey-text is a program. sudo jockey-text
[17:27] <tryy3> escott oh sorry ^_^
[17:28] <tryy3> WhereIsMySpoon but i cant download? i cant access the computer?
[17:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> wat
[17:28] <BluesKaj> tryy3, if you have 2 graphics gpus on your laptop then it's probly the optimus system , bumblebee is alinux app that can help solve this issue
[17:28] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: let me reboot, I have bluetooth on the 12.04 too, I am 12.10 now,
[17:28] <tryy3> BluesKaj its a desktop not a laptop, and i belive i only got 1 gpu and that is gtx 550ti
[17:28] <ThinkT510> WhereIsMySpoon: don't suggest the nvidia site please, users are meant to stick to the repos
[17:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> ThinkT510: ah sorry
[17:29] <escott> tryy3, then you should be fine with the jockey-text installed driver. optimus is a laptop thing
[17:29] <silverarrow> PenguinCSC: it has to be there some where
[17:29] <tryy3> escott it just said 'Additional Drivers' 'Searching for available drivers...' then nothing more
[17:29] <kyubotsu> tryy3: when did it start malfunctioning, was this a fresh install?
[17:29] <escott> tryy3, is that computer connected to the internet?
[17:30] <tryy3> kyubotsu i think from start but i did succed to get it working once dont remember how i did but then when i reboot it stop working again and now iam here :D
[17:30] <jgcampbell300> can anyone recomend a good package to start researching i want to build my own dns server
[17:30] <tryy3> escott i belive so
[17:30] <escott> tryy3, can you "ping google.com" (hit ctrl-c to stop it after a few seconds)
[17:31] <tryy3> escott ye its oc
[17:31] <tryy3> escott connected*
[17:31] <escott> !ics | jgcampbell300 should have some relevant recommendations
[17:32] <escott> tryy3, does lspci show your graphics card
[17:32] <kyubotsu> tryy3: nvidia cards are highly compatible with ubuntu in general, so there is hope for you. have you tried reinstalling the system ?
[17:33] <bekks> kyubotsu: Thats no windows. No need to reinstall it.
[17:33] <tryy3> escott i dont belive so but i could be wrong
[17:33] <Pyroneous> hi
[17:34] <kyubotsu> bekks: reinstalling might only take 45 minutes, as opposed to searching for a technical answer for hours
[17:34] <Pyroneous> need some help with my ati 6850HD and multi-desktop display
[17:34] <bekks> kyubotsu: Fixing might take 5 minutes.
[17:34] <kyubotsu> bekks: then please do
[17:34] <bekks> kyubotsu: Reinstalling is ALWAYS the LAST resort.
[17:34] <Pyroneous> chasing my tail trying to get it working
[17:34] <escott> tryy3, run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lspci | pastebinit"
[17:34] <jgcampbell300> how do i turn off all the join messages here
[17:34] <tryy3> kyubotsu i tryed once to install ubuntu on this desktop while ago (like 4-7month from now or so) and it didn't work back then either, though i didn't bother trying to fix it
[17:34] <escott> tryy3, then send us the link that you get at the end
[17:34] <BluesKaj> tryy3, sudo lshw -C video| grep driver
[17:35] <kyubotsu> tryy3: what version of ubuntu you have there?
[17:35] <Pyroneous> 12.04
[17:35] <Pyroneous> precise
[17:35] <tryy3> escott ehum... i got a swedish keyboard so i dont know how to make  |  :S
[17:35] <tryy3> kyubotsu ubuntu 12.04
[17:36] <alonso> 12.04
[17:36] <kyubotsu> tryy3: did you try running jockey-text on tty as already suggested?
[17:36] <tryy3> kyubotsu yes
[17:36] <escott> tryy3, you could do lspci > temp.txt; pastebinit temp.txt;
[17:37] <Pyroneous> has anyone successfully configured a multidesktop config with ati drivers?
[17:37] <zoktar> anyone tried to get a satio running as a webcam in ubuntu?
[17:38] <tryy3> escott 'You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.'
[17:38] <tryy3> BluesKaj ehum... i got a swedish keyboard so i dont know how to make  |  :S
[17:38] <kendfinger> Hello guys!
[17:38] <escott> tryy3, you must have done the lspci > temp.txt incorrectly.
[17:39] <tryy3> escott nope i write correctly :S
[17:39] <escott> tryy3, what exactly are you typing
[17:40] <tryy3> escott lspci > temp.txt
[17:40] <escott> tryy3, does "cat temp.txt" show the same output as lspci would
[17:40] <Star_Light> is there any room to discuss with someone about registers ?
[17:40] <Star_Light> CPU registers
[17:40] <escott> Star_Light, ##hardware perhaps
[17:40] <tryy3> escott oh thats why... i got no spae left on device so i cant install pastebinit :S
[17:41] <tryy3> space*
[17:41] <tryy3> escott thats why i trying to get the gui's working ^_^
[17:41] <escott> tryy3, this is a classic !xy isn't it
[17:41] <Star_Light> ty escoott
[17:41] <tryy3> escott what you mean?
[17:41] <escott> !xy
[17:41] <ojii> hi everyone. since yesterday my laptop always runs the fans on max speed (despite CPU and GPU being very cool). Anyone have a clue how to fix that?
[17:41] <escott> in this case... you dont have any free space on the disk so not much is going to work
[17:42] <tryy3> escott oh... :S i thought if i could get the gui working i could install a hard drive sizer thingy :P
[17:43] <ThinkT510> tryy3: the point he is making is you didn't mention your original problem, which would have saved a lot of time
[17:43] <mguasch> hi guys.
[17:44] <tryy3> escott o.O i can access with ftp now i can free up some space to install drivers
[17:44] <tryy3> ThinkT510 sry didn't think of it :S
[17:45] <escott> tryy3, its very strange that you dont have any free space for an application as small as pastebinit. something must be seriously wrong
[17:45] <tryy3> escott i went out of disc space compeltly :S
[17:46] <kyubotsu> not only that, but then reisntalling goes right out the window as an option too
[17:47] <escott> tryy3, when you are installing how much disk space are you giving ubuntu
[17:47] <tryy3> escott http://puu.sh/1cn1k see
[17:47] <kyubotsu> oh wait, how could he possibly update his system at all anyway..
[17:47] <tryy3> escott i gave it 30gb
[17:47] <prettygreat> So, I have a question. Is it possible to make  folder read-only to a single user, and not let that user access any other folders?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> tryy3, doubt you are out of disk space , have you tried a reboot
[17:48] <escott> tryy3, /dev/loop0 is not a real disk. why are you installing to a loop disk
[17:48] <bekks> kyubotsu: On a filled up filesystem, updating will crash. Please stop suggesting it.
[17:48] <tryy3> escott i used wubi... cuz the live CD didn't wanna work ;(
[17:48] <kyubotsu> bekks: i wasn't; it stands to reason that at some point he'll have to
[17:49] <tryy3> BluesKaj it said i was out of disc space when i tryed to install it hold on gonna do it again
[17:49] <bekks> kyubotsu: His system still boots, no need so far.
[17:49] <escott> prettygreat, yes but its pretty hard to do. from the computers perspective the user is the program he/she runs so that folder would need a full copy of all the libraries and programs the user would run
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ok wubi tryy3 , nevermind
[17:49] <prettygreat> escott, that seems excessive.
[17:49] <kyubotsu> bekks: in fact, how could he install drivers if needed. you're not paying attention
[17:49] <prettygreat> Windows could do it easily >.>
[17:49] <tryy3> BluesKaj oh nvm... it got installed :S
[17:50] <tryy3> escott pastebinit got installed i didn't thought it would hold on
[17:50] <bekks> kyubotsu: I am paying attention. His system still boots.
[17:50] <BluesKaj> wubi isn't real ubuntu install ., it's meant for testing it
[17:50] <escott> prettygreat, not even windows can really do that. windows is underneath it all pretty much the same as unix. if you want to give a more detailed description of your goals we can suggest a  good way to do it
[17:50] <tryy3> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266118/
[17:50] <prettygreat> Okay.
[17:50] <tryy3> BluesKaj well thats the only thing that works for me :S
[17:51] <prettygreat> I have a fileserver with a bunch of files. I want one folder to be accessed by a friend of mine, but I don't want him to be able to see anything else.
[17:51] <BluesKaj> !alternate | tryy3
[17:51] <escott> prettygreat, and how will he be accessing these files
[17:51] <escott> prettygreat, ftp, samba, ssh?
[17:51] <prettygreat> escott, My initial thoughts were SFTP
[17:51] <prettygreat> But whatever you think is best
[17:51] <escott> prettygreat, sftp is very easy to secure
[17:52] <tryy3> BluesKaj didn't try that.... does it work to "upgrade" from wubi?
[17:52] <ThinkT510> tryy3: you don't upgrade from wubi, you get rid of it
[17:52] <escott> prettygreat, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[17:52] <tryy3> ThinkT510 but that means i haft to move my like 10gb minecraft folder :S
[17:53] <kendfinger> Hello guys! Anyone here like Quantal so far?
[17:53] <escott> prettygreat, and you can ignore all the stuff about versions and compiling the latest version. the openssh in ubuntu has the features you need
[17:53] <xangua> !12.10 | kendfinger
[17:53] <BluesKaj> tryy3, it's meant to be real install on it's own partition , not in wubi ..dunno if it will work in wubi
[17:53] <kendfinger> whoops
[17:53] <kendfinger> I forgot
[17:53] <kendfinger> xangua: sorry
[17:53] <tryy3> BluesKaj aww ok
[17:53] <tryy3> ThinkT510 and all my settings and apt-get installations will be gone :S
[17:54] <prettygreat> escott, I see
[17:54] <prettygreat> This gives a lot of extra information such as setup etc.
[17:54] <ThinkT510> tryy3: wubi is not meant to be used seriously, its more of a testing ground
[17:54]  * prettygreat reads
[17:54] <ThinkT510> tryy3: even a vm is more desirable
[17:54] <tryy3> ThinkT510 i guess i haft to reinstall then ;(
[17:55] <tryy3> ThinkT510 how can i kill wubi with FIRE ? :D
[17:56] <prettygreat> escott, is the one that comes with Ubuntu the OpenSSH 4.9+ Built-in Version?
[17:56] <ThinkT510> tryy3: i've never used it, have fun
[17:56] <tryy3> ThinkT510 oh gawd...
[17:56] <tryy3> ThinkT510 i probly gonna screw up alot more then just uninstall wubi :S
[17:57] <BluesKaj> tryy3, just switch to windows , save any data you need to file on windows from ubuntu , then uninstall wubi , then reboot
[17:57] <ThinkT510> tryy3: apparently you uninstall it just like any other windows program
[17:57] <escott> prettygreat, yes
[17:58] <tryy3> ThinkT510 oh btw, does it work to put drivers into the alternative CD? so i get right nvidia drivers from scratch?
[17:58] <prettygreat> escott, "Important (OpenSSH tests for this condition): ensure their home directory is owned by root, and is not writable by any other user or group."
[17:58] <tryy3> BluesKaj okej i will do that
[17:58] <prettygreat> I can't do that
[17:58] <prettygreat> As the directory is written to by another user
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, Did you get the wubi actually installed and running?
[17:58] <ThinkT510> tryy3: no, you'd need to download them after install
[17:58] <diamonds> hiya
[17:59] <diamonds> trying to install wunderlist http://pastie.org/pastes/4928420/text
[17:59] <diamonds> ^does this look familiar to anyone?
[17:59] <tryy3> wilee-nilee not really 'correctly' but i got it working :D
[17:59] <diamonds> sudo ./installer/installer tells me there's "not enough info"
[17:59] <diamonds> wondering if this is a .deb package or something
[17:59] <tryy3> ThinkT510 aw ok i thought like ghost installations or what they are called ^_^
[17:59] <qwitwa> Can anyone tell me how to open a music file with cmus by default?
[17:59] <escott> prettygreat, you arent giving that user shell so it doesnt matter
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> tryy3, Cool, just wondering you can transfer a wubi to a partition, but I would only do it with a good install that had be being used for awhile.
[18:00] <diamonds> http://www.6wunderkinder.com/wunderlist
[18:00] <ThinkT510> qwitwa: man cmus
[18:00] <prettygreat> escott, would this also allow all subfolders?
[18:00] <escott> prettygreat, sure
[18:00]  * prettygreat tries it
[18:01] <diamonds> there is no readme and changelog contains nothing but dummy text
[18:01] <tryy3> wilee-nilee nah not really good partition and i only been using for like 3 days or so
[18:01] <diamonds> honestly this is kind of a shitty program but I'm using it because I'm already using it on other platforms
[18:01] <BobMarley> hello, my ubuntu 12.04 is not detecting certain usb pens, what to do to solve this??
[18:01] <qwitwa> ThinkT510: Isn't this a more general thing? I can select any program from thunar properties>open with menu, but terminal apps like thunar don't work.
[18:01] <kyubotsu> wubi cannot be put in its own partition. the point of wubi is to try out ubuntu WITHIN windows
[18:01] <prettygreat> escott, I don't have a /usr/local/etc/sshd_config
[18:02] <escott> prettygreat, its in /etc
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, Yes it can this has been being done for a considerable time, and it is a standard install then.
[18:02] <ThinkT510> qwitwa: what?
[18:02] <qwitwa> ThinkT510: How would I use the name of the file being openened in a custom open command?
[18:02] <llutz> prettygreat: http://www.serverubuntu.it/SFTP-chroot
[18:02] <qwitwa> I don't want to open a file in cmus. I want all mp3s to open in a new terminal window in cmus.
[18:02] <kyubotsu> wilee-nilee: then why are we wasting time and not doint a proper dual boot?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, Don;t just proclaim what you don't know.
[18:02] <qwitwa> Okay, half answered my question in that I need to launch the terminal first.
[18:02] <prettygreat> Found it
[18:03] <prettygreat> llutz, thanks!
[18:03] <qwitwa> But my question about the file still stands - if I go into nautilus and set a file to open with a custom command, how do I use the filepath of that file in the command itself?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, I have always partitioned installed, others will do a wubi instal this is for them.
[18:03] <vlt> Hello. I’m trying to get Flash working on my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS desktop. I tried so far by installing flashplugin-installer, then adobe-flashplugin from the partner repo, and finally I installed google-chrome. But it still doesn’t work. What should I do next?
[18:04] <ThinkT510> vlt: abandon flash :)
[18:04] <kyubotsu> wubi | wilee-nilee
[18:04] <kyubotsu> !wubi | wilee-nilee
[18:04] <prettygreat> it says Take special care on the owner and permission along the entire path structure, all the folder must be owned by "root:root" and with 755 permissions.  again :[
[18:04] <prettygreat> Is that important?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> kyubotsu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[18:04] <tokam> can you please fix this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/970475
[18:04] <escott> prettygreat, yes.
[18:05] <ThinkT510> kyubotsu: wilee-nilee is correct, you can use wubi to do a proper install (no idea why anyone would want to though)
[18:05] <tryy3> BluesKaj where on windows can i find the ubuntu files?
[18:05] <vlt> ThinkT510: That’s what I usually do. But there’s this one website …
[18:05] <escott> prettygreat, don't worry about the user being able to access the files, root is doing it on their behalf
[18:05] <kyubotsu> ThinkT510: precisely
[18:05] <prettygreat> escott, but what about other users that need to access it? That folder is frequently written to by another user
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> The problem here is that some install a wubi and use it for awhile this is just a method to keep the install, DUH.
[18:06] <prettygreat> The folder is actually a subfolder of another user's home directory
[18:06] <vlt> Hello. How to get Flash working on Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:07] <escott> prettygreat, then this might not be a good solution. im not sure why they require root to own it, but they evidently do
[18:08] <prettygreat> escott, okay, thank you for trying
[18:08] <escott> prettygreat, a workaround would be for you to access this folder using sftp
[18:08] <prettygreat> escott, how?
[18:08] <escott> prettygreat, sftp localhost
[18:08] <escott> or rather sftp username@localhost
[18:08] <prettygreat> Ah, like that.
[18:09] <prettygreat> This wouldn't work in this situation
[18:09] <prettygreat> One user is running a torrent client which downloads to this folder.
[18:09] <prettygreat> I want to allow a third party to access the folder without access to anything else really
[18:09] <vlt> What is the command to repair messed up apt packages?
[18:10] <ThinkT510> vlt: sudo apt-get install -f
[18:10] <prettygreat> Oh well, it isn't *that* important I guess
[18:11] <meridian> Hi :P
[18:11] <escott> prettygreat, it might be that they just want $HOME to be root owned but that subdirectories are ok. its unclear from what im reading
[18:11] <meridian> someone here?
[18:11] <vlt> ThinkT510: Thank you.
[18:11] <meridian> I have a problem with x
[18:12] <meridian> someone can help me?
[18:12] <escott> prettygreat, yeah its only $HOME. so you can have $HOME/subdir owned by that user
[18:12] <escott> prettygreat, i think they must be trying to protect $HOME/.ssh or something
[18:13] <prettygreat> Ah okay
[18:13] <prettygreat> will try it out
[18:13] <escott> or prevent the creation of it
[18:13] <prettygreat> thanks
[18:14] <qwitwa> ThinkT510: Okay, I'll see if I can be clearer this time. In nautilus or thunar I can right click on a .mp3 and go into properties. I can then select a program like rhythmbox, and mp3s will always open with rhythmbox from then on. This time I want to use a command line player like cmus or MOC. However, selecting those from the dropdown menu doesn't work. How could I get those files to default to opening with
[18:14] <qwitwa> cmus or MOC?
[18:14] <codewiz> hi, i am running virtualbox on an ubuntu host, what's the packet with the guest addon .iso's?
[18:14] <qwitwa> meridian: Don't ask to ask. No-one will help you unless you say what your problem specifically is.
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> meridian, The channel works with you stating your problem in the form of a question. ;)
[18:15] <fxfitz> Hi there... Question: I recently added a startup script to my /etc/init.d directory and then did 'update-rc.d <script> defaults'... it starts up fine, but now I tried to remove it and it still starts up. I deleted the script and did 'update-rc.d -f <script> remove'........ any idea why? Can't figure out why the script is still running at boot.
[18:15] <ThinkT510> qwitwa: ah, i understand what you want now, sorry for being so slow, sorry i can't help either
[18:15] <fxfitz> codewiz: You should be able to download it directly from Virtualbox.
[18:15] <qwitwa> codewiz: Is this what you want? http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> codewiz, It is the guest addition drop down in the top panel of Vbox
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> codewiz, It in the drop down that is
[18:17] <meridian> Question ^_^ :  I go to tty1 (ctrl + alt + f1) and i type sudo service lightdm stop, then i type xinit and the xinit "terminal" appears, but when i want to exit of xinit i use sudo startx and it throws an error and i reboot, then i want to log in with my user and pass and i cant, it returns me to the same login  until i entered with guest how can i login in my session again?
[18:17] <codewiz> got it. thx
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> qwitwa, That link is incorrect it is from 2011 the vbox is one addition now.
[18:18] <meridian> xD
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> edition*
[18:19] <meridian> Question ^_^ :  I go to tty1 (ctrl + alt + f1) and i type sudo service lightdm stop, then i type xinit and the xinit "terminal" appears, but when i want to exit of xinit i use sudo startx and it throws an error and i reboot, then i want to log in with my user and pass and i cant, it returns me to the same login  until i entered with guest how can i login in my session again?
[18:19] <escott> meridian, to exit X you close the xterm it opens
[18:19] <stercor> I have a nice selection of pictures for the screensaver.  How do I make the screensaver come up earlier and stay up longer?
[18:19] <meridian> escott: how can i stop the xinit term?
[18:19] <fxfitz>  Question: I recently added a startup script to my /etc/init.d directory and then did 'update-rc.d <script> defaults'... it starts up fine, but now I tried to remove it and it still starts up. I deleted the script and did 'update-rc.d -f <script> remove'........ any idea why? Can't figure out why the script is still running at boot.
[18:19] <escott> meridian, "exit"
[18:20] <meridian> escott: uhm kk nice ill try now thank you !
[18:21] <meridian> escott: well, but now i cant enter again on the xterm to type xinit, im now on guest session
[18:21] <escott> meridian, yeah im not sure why you are doing this xinit stuff, but you broke your unity or gnome session
[18:22] <meridian> escott: how can i restart it?
[18:22] <escott> meridian, unity --reset perhaps. not sure what DE you are using
[18:22] <meridian> escott: de?
[18:23] <kyubotsu> de = desktop environment
[18:23] <escott> meridian, desktop environment unity or gnome or kde or ...
[18:23] <kyubotsu> the graphical front of your system
[18:23] <meridian> escott: is lightdm a de? xD
[18:23] <escott> meridian, yes
[18:24] <meridian> escott: so, i use lightdm
[18:24] <napster> Eye of mate does not scale svg images on zooming in/out. Does anyone else experience the same issue?
[18:24] <escott> meridian, rather no
[18:24] <ThinkT510> napster: mate isn't supported here
[18:24] <napster> ok ThinkT510
[18:24] <escott> meridian, lightdm is the display manager. and then in lightdm you select your session type. if you installed normal ubuntu and never made an election of session type its unity
[18:25] <meridian> escott: yep unity xD
[18:25] <escott> meridian, so i would ctrl-alt-f1 login and run unity --reset
[18:25] <meridian> escott: kk ill try it
[18:25] <meridian> escott: thx
[18:25] <escott> meridian, still not sure why you are messing around with xinit
[18:26] <ElixirVitae> Speaking of lightdm, why does restarting it through restart lightdm also closes all applications?
[18:26] <escott> ElixirVitae, because it has to close the x server to restart
[18:26] <ElixirVitae> is it not equivalent of explorer.exe in Win?
[18:26] <meridian> escott: unity-panel-service service not found
[18:26] <escott> ElixirVitae, "compiz" is the analog of explorer.exe.
[18:27] <ElixirVitae> so, I should use "restart compiz --existing"?
[18:27] <BobMarley>  hello, my ubuntu 12.04 is not detecting certain usb pens, what to do to solve this??
[18:27] <escott> meridian, i dont use unity so i dont really know. also not really sure what you did in that terminal to break your desktop, but it sounds like you are logging in and unity is immediately crashing
[18:28] <meridian> escott: yes, it returns me back on login again
[18:28] <escott> meridian, you could rm -rf ~/.config but there may be a more elegant way to handle it
[18:28] <meridian> escott: ill try it
[18:29] <nshbrown> how do I redo the keyboard setup after install? Right now my pipe key goes to a capitol "A".
[18:29] <escott> ElixirVitae, compiz isn't a service. it would just be compiz --replace (or metacity --replace or gnome-shell --replace depending on what Window manager you use)
[18:30] <kyubotsu> meridian: see if you can select a different option, as unity-2d , from the drop down menu
[18:31] <escott> BobMarley, do they appear in lsusb
[18:31] <ElixirVitae> I use unity, escott, thanks, will try that
[18:32] <ElixirVitae> I plan to give it a 3-deep key combination
[18:32] <drag0nius> how would i change Documents folder to point at symbolic link?
[18:32] <drag0nius> at ubuntu desktop
[18:33] <escott> drag0nius, rm Documents; ln -s something Documents; or modify .config/user-dirs.xml
[18:34] <BobMarley> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266191/                                      the 1 call is with the pen inserted and the other call is with the pen not inserted
[18:34] <escott> BobMarley, 0011:7788 is the usb identifier. you might google for "0011:7788 linux"
[18:36] <bakbaku> hi guys, I'm getting hash mismatches on apt-get update. I'm using "Main Server" (in software updater app)
[18:36] <bakbaku> anyone seen this too?
[18:36] <escott> BobMarley, is it a standard usb mass storage device (or supposed to be?)
[18:36] <bakbaku> example: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:37] <Sicp> which file does this command read from? "sudo crontab $sicp -l"
[18:37] <My> hi
[18:37] <bakbaku> oh, I've just installed 12.10 beta 2
[18:37] <nsaquatics1> Hi..
[18:37] <My> who help me with hard disc?
[18:37] <OiPenguin> Tried to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS, but it failed during lack of space, despite no warning in advance. I'm asked to run 'dpkg etc...', but it failes because of lack of space. An attempt to make space by apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop failes, it tells med to run 'dpkg etc...'. What do I do? /root is 6.6 GB, 100% used
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> !12.10 | bak
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> bakbaku, ^^^^
[18:38] <escott> Sicp, $sicp whatever that is set to
[18:38] <trism> bakbaku: happens occasionally, just rerun apt-get update in a bit
[18:38] <Sicp> what?
[18:38] <bakbaku> oops, thanks
[18:38] <My> who is a POLAND?
[18:38] <OiPenguin> I'm in a working GUI, but hesitate rebooting since I don't expect to be able to log in again.
[18:38] <Avi__> hi sisterrr
[18:38] <bakbaku> trism, any idea why?
[18:38] <ThinkT510> !pl | My
[18:38] <sisterrr> ohai Avi__
[18:38] <escott> Sicp, $sicp is a variable. it must be set to something earlier. echo $sicp to see what value it has
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> OiPenguin, Was this a windows install Of ubuntu?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> a wubi
[18:39] <OiPenguin> No. A regular (server) install. Later installed gui on top.
[18:39] <olsen1> hi. Is there any way to set ntp where we want it to be 5 minutes in advance?
[18:40] <z01d> arm binaries available for10.x ?
[18:40] <OiPenguin> sudo apt-get clean appears to be working, hopefully I can attempt dpkg with success soon.
[18:40] <escott> olsen1, what?
[18:40] <olsen1> hi escott
[18:40] <trism> bakbaku: my guess would be partial/incomplete download (server disconnects earlier, etc)
[18:40] <olsen1> I want to sync to an ntp server but the time should be 5 minutes in advance
[18:41] <bakbaku> ok, thanks trism
[18:41] <olsen1> so if it is 8AM now and we sync it, it should be 8:05AM on the client side time
[18:41] <escott> olsen1, then you need to run your own modified ntp server
[18:41] <ThinkT510> !arm | z01d
[18:41] <olsen1> escott: thanks. Any url link for this please? I can't find it elsewhere
[18:41] <escott> olsen1, or maybe you can get a ntp client running on one interface and an ntp server running on another interface
[18:42] <OiPenguin> wilee-nilee, Do you reckon I should reboot once dpkg ... is completed or should I free additional space an attempt upgrade again?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> OiPenguin, I would not know to be honest.
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> I'm hesitant to be definitive here
[18:42] <BobMarley> escott, "BobMarley, is it a standard usb mass storage device (or supposed to be?)"   ---------------------the usb pen that i have is the follwing:::::::::::::::::                      https://loja.vodafone.pt/acessorios/detalhe.htm?id=70275-1&modelo=Vodafone-USB-Pen-Drive-8GB-Vermelho
[18:42] <z01d> hanks 11.04 runs nice on my htc hd2
[18:43] <escott> BobMarley, does it not appear in the "disk utility"
[18:43] <escott> olsen1, no. never heard of anyone doing this
[18:44] <OiPenguin> wilee-nilee, I was told that the system would be in an unusable state and hence had to run dpkg. May I assume that it is in a usable state again if dpkg succeds?
[18:44] <olsen1> okay. thanks escott
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> OiPenguin, The channel is a better help than me.
[18:44] <toastigesetwas> hi crd
[18:44] <ls612> How do I check what graphics driver I'm using in 12.04?
[18:45] <BobMarley> escott, no, it is not appearing in the "disk utility"
[18:45] <ThinkT510> ls612: lsmod will show the loaded kernel modules
[18:46] <escott> BobMarley, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then unplug the usb, then plug it back in and run "dmesg | tail -n 20 | pastebinit"
[18:46] <sisterrr> hi. i can't login after following this tutorial  to get my hybrid card working  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450        login screen asks for password, i put it, hit enter, screen blinks and goes back to login like it had restarted  (capslock and numlock get off again)
[18:46] <sisterrr> if i go to command line, login as myself and   sudo startx   i login as root
[18:47] <bekks> sisterrr: So which ubuntu are you on exactly? And why is your root account enabled?
[18:47] <ls612> So, would there be much of a performance difference between the Intel HD 4000 open-source and HD 4000 proprietary drivers?
[18:47] <ThinkT510> sisterrr: sudo launches things as root
[18:47] <sisterrr> ubuntu 12.04
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> sisterrr, you don't sudo startx
[18:47] <ThinkT510> ls612: there are no proprietry intel drivers
[18:47] <escott> sisterrr, your GLX isn't working and unity is crashing. unity-2d should allow you to login. and don't use sudo startx
[18:47] <ls612> Oh, that's nice then. Yay intel!
[18:48] <z01d> monitor mode possible for bcm4329 on htc hd2 ?
[18:48] <drag0nius> how would i do so partition get mounted right after system start?
[18:48] <sisterrr> after followin that tutorial, ubuntu refused to work at all. asked to switch to low graphics but doing so instantly put it in command line.  then i did what the tutorial suggested in case of problems:  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo startx
[18:48] <escott> !fstab | drag0ni
[18:48] <drag0nius> right now it gets mounted only when i first time try to access it
[18:48] <escott> !fstab | drag0nius
[18:48] <sisterrr> and now i can only login that way, using sudo startx
[18:48] <sisterrr> by trying to login as my normal user, screen blinks and ignores the login
[18:49] <escott> sisterrr, your GLX isn't working and unity is crashing. unity-2d should allow you to login. and don't use sudo startx
[18:49] <sisterrr> escott: trying to login by selecting UBUNTU 2D in that dropdown menu gives the same result
[18:50] <escott> sisterrr, then you might need to clean out you ~/.config
[18:50] <sisterrr> screen blinks, capslock and numlock go back to off as it had rebooted, and asks for login like nothing happened
[18:50] <sisterrr> okay
[18:50] <sisterrr> how do i do that?
[18:50] <abbas__> guys, how do i enable nick name list in xchat-gnome?
[18:51] <BobMarley> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266218/
[18:51] <ThinkT510> abbas__: what do you mean by enable?
[18:51] <z01d> abbas strg+f7
[18:51] <abbas__> i dont see it
[18:51] <abbas__> strg?
[18:51] <escott> BobMarley, I/O errors on the device. sounds like its broken
[18:51] <abbas__> ctrl+f7?
[18:51] <ThinkT510> abbas__: use xchat not xchat-gnome
[18:51] <z01d> jeppa
[18:51] <abbas__> ThinkT510,  :) thats not a solution
[18:52] <escott> BobMarley, but you could try: udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
[18:52] <BobMarley> escott, in that port i have mounted another pens and they worked fine, and i also mounted that problematic usb to windows and it worked
[18:52] <bekks> BobMarley: It still has I/O errors, so it will break pretty soon.
[18:53] <BobMarley> escott, bob@bob-laptop:~$ udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
[18:53] <BobMarley> Cannot find device with major:minor 8:17: No such device
[18:53] <BobMarley> escott, will break the pen or the usb driver?
[18:53] <escott> BobMarley, it probably already errored and got kicked off the bus. look at dmesg | tail -n 20 again
[18:53] <kyubotsu> BobMarley: does it have some sort of disk utility in it that is only windows compatible..?
[18:54] <bekks> BobMarley: Expect the pen drive to break soon.
[18:54] <BobMarley> kyubotsu, i have formated it some days ago
[18:54] <BobMarley> the pen is new
[18:54] <escott> BobMarley, then return it
[18:55] <bekks> BobMarley: Return it, it's faulty.
[18:55] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266232/
[18:55] <sisterrr> okay escott , deleted everything on .config.  now i just try to login again?
[18:55] <amunak> hello, I'm trying to run samba on my ubuntu. Everything works fine, except for samba name server not broadcasting its netbios name. Actually... The nmbd says that it IS a local master for that workgroup, but I can't see (or resolve) the hostname on windows.
[18:55] <escott> sisterrr, yeah
[18:55] <Lofde_> i have a n00b question, i want to benchmark my ssd on my ubuntu, i am using 12.10, the disk tool wont let me do it since i am using it as the main drive and it is mounted.. anyone know if a good tool ?
[18:56] <sisterrr> alrighty. thank you and let's pray
[18:56] <amunak> Lofde_: one option would be to boot livecd and run some benchmarks from there
[18:56] <theadmin> Lofde_: Why not boot to a livecd and do what you're doing right now?
[18:56] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | Lofde_
[18:56] <Meris> Any Freenode ops around? I tried to register my username, but I did not receive an e-mail on my gmail address. Is this a know problem, or has something gone amiss in my session?
[18:57] <theadmin> Meris: Try #freenode
[18:57] <ThinkT510> Meris: /join #freenode
[18:57] <Meris> theadmin, thanks for your kind advice
[18:57] <escott> Lofde_, lots of benchmarking tools can benchmark on top of the filesystem like bonnie++
[18:57] <theadmin> Meris: Also check your spam folders.
[18:58] <Meris> theadmin, I already did that, thanks for the hint
[18:58] <varikonniemi> i have 12.04 installing on a 1.3ghz celeron with 256 sd ram
[18:58] <varikonniemi> do you think it will be usable?
[18:58] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Will likely not work at all.
[18:59] <theadmin> varikonniemi: The RAM needs upgrading, the processor sounds acceptable to me
[18:59] <gsr> Hi all - I'm try to get a list of kernels on the system.  the command im using is `ls -C /boot | grep '/([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+-[0-9]+)/'` - but the regex seems to be failing.  The files are in the format linux-image-#.#.#-#-generic, but i just want the 4 numbers.  i can't find anything wrong with the string ..
[18:59] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Might want to try Lubuntu or even a non-Ubuntu distro at all
[18:59] <varikonniemi> yeah i know that, too bad i just sold my other old computer that would have had another 256 stick in it
[18:59] <bekks> varikonniemi: 256M is pretty low.
[18:59] <varikonniemi> now i only have spare ddr ram
[19:00] <varikonniemi> almost so old a computer that it would not be worth playing with it anymore
[19:00] <Ririshi> Hi
[19:00] <theadmin> gsr: You're doing it wrong... grep won't return the numbers, it will return the whole string where they were encountered
[19:00] <Ririshi> I downloaded Ubuntu 12.04.1 Desktop AMD64 and made a bootable USB, but when I boot with the USB plugged in, it tells me to remove disks and media and press a key to continue, then starts windows 7
[19:00] <varikonniemi> if ubuntu does not boot i will install lubuntu
[19:00] <theadmin> gsr: sed sounds more like the tool you are looking for
[19:01] <gsr> theadmin, ah, thank you, ill check it out
[19:01] <sisterrr> same thing, escott
[19:01] <sisterrr> blinks, doesn't login
[19:02] <escott> sisterrr, you can check your Xorg.0.log but if the display manager is showing then X is working and the problem is the window manager doesn't like something
[19:02] <theadmin> gsr: Or use grep --only-matching
[19:02] <theadmin> gsr: As for the regex it looks fine
[19:03] <escott> gsr, what is with the /( in front of the regex
[19:03] <sisterrr> escott: what i find weird is that sudo startx  works, while my user doesn't.    what prompted me to try that tutorial in the first place was that i was having graphic glitches all the time, and also window manager issues
[19:03] <sisterrr> not to mention the temperature always higher than with windows
[19:03] <amunak> Hello, I'm trying to run samba on my freshly-installed ubuntu 12.04. Everything works fine, except for samba name server not broadcasting its netbios name. Actually... The nmbd says that it IS a local master for that workgroup, but I can't see (or resolve) the hostname on windows. I can access the share by IP address however. How can I make it work?
[19:04] <escott> sisterrr, startx doesn't work?
[19:05] <sisterrr> escott: i'll try. login in command line and just  "startx" then?   cause  sudo service lightdm start   only takes me to the login screen that blinks and ignores login
[19:05] <BobMarley> escott, in the lucyd edition that usb was recognized
[19:05] <BobMarley> usb pen*
[19:06] <bekks> BobMarley: Still, the stick is faulty. Return it.
[19:06] <theadmin> gsr: This sounds like what you want (added uniq to filter out repeats): ls /boot | grep -oP '(\d+\.){2}(\d+\-){2}' | sed 's/\-$//' | uniq
[19:06] <BobMarley> bekks, how do i rerun it?
[19:07] <bekks> BobMarley: You take the stick, and walk into the shop where you bought it.
[19:07] <roboplegic> hi there, using the installer and sorting out my partitions... i have win7 on the first drive and a second drive that has media which i wish to keep. i'm removing win7 to replace it with ubuntu, if i ask the installer to remove win7 is it only going to make changes to the drive with win7 on it or both that drive and the second drive?
[19:07] <BobMarley> bekks, ah yes, i have read return as rerun
[19:07] <ThinkT510> bekks: long walk if he got it online :)
[19:08] <BobMarley> ThinkT510, that is very funny
[19:11] <tpw_rules> hey everybody. i'm having issues with scaling on my computer's display. if i do it using xrandr, it tries but gives some error and the screen becomes "wider", but the remaining pixels wrap onto the next line
[19:11] <tpw_rules> so it's horribly screwed up
[19:13] <escott> tpw_rules, what kind of connector is your monitor attached to. DVI, HDMI, displayPort, VGA, etc
[19:14] <tpw_rules> escott: it's internal
[19:14] <tpw_rules> it's on this odd device called the oqo. pretty much an x86 tablet, but i'm trying on its internal monitor
[19:14] <tpw_rules> i can plug another monitor in for testing
[19:14] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have Ubuntu 12.04 Live/Desktop that I want to burn onto CD, what burn speed do I set it on using Brasero - Maximum Speed, 48.0x (CD), 40.0x (CD), 32.0x (CD), 24.0x (CD), 16.0x (CD), 8.0x (CD)?
[19:14] <escott> tpw_rules, it must be presenting bad edid information. you may have to specify your own modelines
[19:15] <roboplegic> my question is clearly not complex enough for you to show off your superior intellects :D
[19:15] <theadmin> BlueWolf: It's a typical suggestion to use the lowest speed available (so 8x)
[19:15] <escott> BlueWolf, slowest
[19:15] <tpw_rules> escott: it's not a supported mode. i'm trying to use the x framebuffer scaling. it has a special driver for windows that lets it do that but it doesn't appear to be hardware (or ubuntu can't detect it)
[19:16] <BlueWolf> escott: theadmin: Why the slowest? Should I simulate before burning too?
[19:16] <tpw_rules> BlueWolf: reduces the chance of errors
[19:16] <tpw_rules> also you only need to simulate if you're not burning an iso
[19:16] <escott> BlueWolf, you burn an audio cd at 48x and a few bits go wrong you hear a pop, do that with data and its a bad file
[19:16] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Dunno the answer to any of those, that's just how they suggest it. I'm not sure what "simulating" really does either
[19:16] <escott> do that with an OS and it doesnt boot
[19:16] <sisterrr> escott: startx without sudo gives a "no protocol found"error ad infinitum.    when i tried again with sudo, i got this error that said something along the lines of... magic cookie.
[19:17] <sisterrr> mit-magic-cookie or something like that
[19:17] <sisterrr> at least it made me lol
[19:17] <sirriffsalot> Hey, I just followed this http://jackaudio.org/routing_flash and got it working. But now any time I run a flash video, jack is automatically started and it no longer runs immediately through alsa when jack is not running.. Any ideas?
[19:17] <tpw_rules> if you're burning a file cd, i believe simulate simulates generating the file structures and finding them on the hard disk without actually writing any data to the cd
[19:17] <escott> sisterrr, you might verify that you own your XAUTHORITY file ~/.Xauthority
[19:18] <sisterrr> escott: does it make any sense that following that tutorial would fuck up that kind of stuff?  O.o
[19:18] <escott> sisterrr, yes
[19:18] <tpw_rules> escott: does ubuntu need driver support to do framebuffer scaling?
[19:18] <escott> tpw_rules, its not something im familiar with
[19:18] <tpw_rules> could you point me to someone who would be?
[19:18] <BlueWolf> escott: theadmin: Should I tick - Use burnproof (decrease the risk of failures)?
[19:18] <tpw_rules> i'd really like to get it fixed, using any modern operating system with a height of 640 is really great fun and you all should try it
[19:18] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Just burn at the lowest speed, don't mess around with anything else
[19:18] <sisterrr> so i should change ownership of this .Xauthority
[19:19] <sisterrr> alas, gonna try that
[19:19] <sisterrr> thanks for the patience and brb
[19:19] <BlueWolf> escott: theadmin: Thank you :D
[19:19] <myrmidette> how do I search for all directories that are within directories? I tried this command but it didn't five me anything:    find . -wholename "/media/PocketBook6/books/dropbox/*/*"
[19:20] <theadmin> myrmidette: find /media/PocketBook6/books/dropbox -type d
[19:20] <BlueWolf> escott: theadmin: Sorry do I leave the disk open to add files later?
[19:20] <tpw_rules> BlueWolf: no. just burn an ISO
[19:20] <theadmin> BlueWolf: No way... Also, are you sure you're burning it as a disk image?
[19:20] <escott> BlueWolf, NO. burn as ISO
[19:20] <tpw_rules> do _not_ burn a file cd
[19:21] <myrmidette> theadmin: no, that'll give me all top level directories too. I only need the ones that are two levels deep
[19:21] <BlueWolf> tpw_rules: Thanks :)
[19:21] <escott> BlueWolf, pictures on ubuntu.com for many common burner programs
[19:21] <BlueWolf> 	
[19:21] <BlueWolf> escott: Thanks again :D
[19:21] <BobMarley> escott, finnaly the usb pen has been detected by the disk utility, so what now? how do i aces it?
[19:22] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Really, now: sudo wodim -dao dev=/dev/sr0  path_to_ubuntu.iso
[19:22] <escott> BobMarley, i dont see how this changes anything. based on the previous dmesg you sent the device appears to be erroring and being kicked from the bus
[19:23] <BlueWolf> theadmin: And that's how to burn via the command line?
[19:23] <drag0nius> would it be fine to install nvidia drivers on laptop?
[19:23] <drag0nius> ubuntu doesnt seem to get gpu drivers for geforce 555m
[19:23] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Pretty much
[19:23] <bekks> !hcl | drag0nius
[19:24] <nic> Hello! Question: Does anyone have a link to clear instructions on how to root an original Galaxy S Epic 4g using Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:24] <theadmin> myrmidette: add -mindepth 2 then
[19:24] <escott> !ot | nic
[19:24] <BlueWolf> theadmin: Thank you but I think I will stick to Brasero as my problem will become a bigger on if I play with the command line ;-)
[19:25] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Makes sense I guess
[19:27] <SkipsTheSillyFil> hi
[19:27] <SkipsTheSillyFil> somepony here?
[19:30] <BlueWolf> SkipsTheSillyFil: Lots, speak your problem
[19:30] <BlueWolf> And someone will help
[19:30] <goddard> my system keeps locking up while running VM Ware
[19:30] <goddard> my music keeps playing and i can move my mouse but everything is locked
[19:39] <thomasd> Hay I got a laptop with ubuntu 12.04 lts pre installed. I want to remove Unity Gnome and all that bs and install lxde but I cant even figure out how to start a session with a difrent window manager can someone help me?
[19:39] <ThinkT510> thomasd: pick it from the login screen
[19:39] <sisterrr> escott: there's no .Xauthority on home
[19:40] <thomasd> thinkT510 I tried but I cant
[19:40] <escott> sisterrr, that would be strange. are you doing ls -a?
[19:41] <sisterrr> oh. it's there. sorry, escott, i was looking on nautilus like a good noob.
[19:41] <escott> sisterrr, ls -al ~/.X*
[19:42] <k1l> thomasd: install the metapackage lubuntu-desktop and then switch the enviroment in lightdm into lubuntu
[19:43] <sisterrr> escott: it gives me  -rw------- 1 root root 100   and the location
[19:43] <escott> sisterrr, that would prevent you from logging in. you need to chown that back to yourself sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority
[19:44] <thomasd> i cant run lightdm even as root
[19:44] <sisterrr> okay now it lists me
[19:44] <sisterrr> let me try logging in again
[19:45] <jrib> thomasd: what do you mean you can't "run lightdm even as root"?
[19:45] <thomasd> k1l: sudo lightdm outputs: Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManger.
[19:45] <k1l> thomas: no no no
[19:46] <Onkeltem> Hi all
[19:46] <k1l> thomasd: where are you now? logged into the regular ubuntu?
[19:46] <thomasd> yes
[19:47] <Onkeltem> I wonder how Vino is supposed to work? I set UPnP option, but it doesn't do anything. It doesn't even message what port it managed to open if any! And if doesn't open any port - it silently runs stupid
[19:47] <k1l> thomasd: did you install "lubuntu-desktop" ?
[19:47] <k1l> thomasd: "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[19:47] <chinneseproduct> hi all
[19:47] <escott> Onkeltem, your router would have to be configured to accept UPnP
[19:48] <escott> Onkeltem, vnc ports are 5800 and 5900
[19:48] <Onkeltem> escott: it is. Nothing happens. No ports are opened.
[19:48] <maicod> hi is it possible to set stdin to a certain tty from inside a script ?
[19:48] <thomasd> k1l: i was just running it to see what it did while lubuntu-desktop installed
[19:48] <Onkeltem> escott: I enabled UPnP
[19:48] <k1l> thomasd: ???
[19:48] <thomasd> K1l: it is installed now but it's still not working
[19:48] <escott> Onkeltem, and if you are running an iptables firewall you probably need to open that as well
[19:48] <k1l> thomasd: did you install lubuntu-desktop or not?
[19:48] <ThinkT510> thomasd: lightdm is the display manager that launches X
[19:49] <thomasd> how do i get to the lightdm prefrences?
[19:49] <Onkeltem> escott: nothing like that. It is fresh Ubuntu 12.04.
[19:49] <Onkeltem> escott: I scan remote host with nmap -P0 -p5800-5900 and nothing is found
[19:49] <k1l> thomasd: now log out. when comming to the login screen select lubuntu when clicking on the ubuntu-sign near the nickname
[19:50] <escott> maicod, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/640493/redirect-the-stdin-to-come-from-a-different-terminal-using-bash but it might be easier to just use screen
[19:50] <thomasd> one sec brb
[19:51] <maicod> escott: thanks. the problem I have is that I need to run a program that relies on a tty to catch key bindings from a script but then there is no stdin so the keys don't work
[19:51] <maicod> escott: lemme rephrase
[19:52] <maicod> escott: thanks. the problem I have is that I need to run a program from inside a script .the program relies on a tty to catch key bindings but when run from inside a script there is no stdin so the keys don't work
[19:53] <snollux> Hello! How do I figure out what user my Apache2 server is running as?
[19:53] <snollux> and mysql, etc
[19:53] <escott> maicod, sounds weird, and not something i know much about
[19:53] <snollux> I'd like it not to be root/sudoer
[19:54] <escott> snollux, its not. ps aux | grep apache
[19:54] <snollux> root     15637  0.0  0.5  40276  9836 ?        Ss   Oct05   0:05 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start jr,,
[19:54] <snollux> looks like it
[19:55] <maicod> escott: the programs keyboard 'q' to quit only works when I manually run it from bash but when run from a script there's no stdin that catches the keypress
[19:55] <maicod> maybe it clarifies what I mean but if you dont know dont worry :)
[19:55] <escott> maicod, well how are you running the script?
[19:56] <maicod> escott: its ran by midnight commander via a file association
[19:57] <maicod> filetype association
[19:57] <escott> snollux, i guess apache is running as root then. perhaps thats required to hold the port open
[19:58] <escott> maicod, i think screen would do what you want. alternately you could setup a watch file
[19:59] <maicod> escott: I tried entering screen <my program> but that didnt help
[19:59] <maicod> I mean inside my script I did that
[19:59] <escott> snollux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506542
[19:59] <escott> maicod, how did that not help?
[20:00] <maicod> the keys still don't get captured
[20:00] <guntbert> snollux: what you are seeing here is only the starting process, it will not listen for connections but open a new process for that
[20:01] <maicod> escott: will try to be sure holdon
[20:01] <escott> maicod, not sure what you mean by captured. if you "read" in the script it should suspend on input from the tty
[20:01] <maicod> I tried it yesterday but forgot what I exactly did
[20:02] <maicod> escott: no the program being run listens for keys to be pressed like the q for quit
[20:02] <phirestalker> anyone know of a program that will automatically convert batch of video files to iphone mp4 format? when I say automatic I mean remux to mp4 container when codecs are compatible, and only reencode when necessary, I have searched google all day and didn't see any, even a script would be great
[20:02] <escott> maicod, how? what are you using to listen?
[20:02] <blackshirt> hello
[20:02] <maicod> escott: I didndt create the program. it is called omxplayer and plays videos onto the GPU of a raspberry pi
[20:03] <maicod> the gpu takes over but the program still listens to keys being pressed
[20:03] <kinokus> Hello!
[20:03] <phirestalker> blackshirt... is that a blackhat in training??
[20:03] <escott> maicod, the program probably needs to be started in the tty
[20:04] <kinokus> who was test ubuntu 12-10 ?
[20:04] <goddard> my system keeps locking up while running VM Ware
[20:04] <goddard> my music keeps playing and i can move my mouse but everything is locked
[20:04] <maicod> escott: so screen won;t help then?
[20:04] <guntbert> !quantal | kinokus
[20:04] <escott> maicod, if you start screen first it should be fine
[20:04] <Xethron> Heya!!
[20:04] <blackshirt> phirestalker, you should be carefull with you said
[20:05] <Xethron> Anyone knows how to activate a built in 3G modem?
[20:05] <maicod> oh mc inside the screen
[20:05] <Xethron> I just got a new laptop, and inserted the sim card
[20:05] <Xethron> But have no idea how to connect
[20:07] <phirestalker> blackshirt: I was careful, that's why there were no typos :P
[20:07] <escott> maicod, no. the omxplayer inside screen should work
[20:08] <maicod> escott: like this in my script ? screen omxplayer file ?
[20:09] <blackshirt> phirestalker, thank guys...just jokes :d
[20:09] <snollux> guntbert: so you think I'm more or less secure here? I have to start the apache2 with SUDO service apache2 start
[20:09] <escott> maicod, yes that should work
[20:09] <snollux> but that doesn't mean someone could hack apache2 and get access to my root account?
[20:09] <gordonjcp> snollux: apache drops root privs pretty quickly after startup
[20:09] <snollux> thanks
[20:10] <guntbert> snollux: no - like gordonjcp just said
[20:10] <maicod> it says 'operation not permitted must be connected to a terminak
[20:10] <maicod> terminal
[20:10] <snollux> that makes me feel better, thanks
[20:10] <gordonjcp> snollux: I don't want to sound like a condescending dick here, but the way it all goes together is pretty complicated and unless you *really* want to get into it, just sit tight and believe it works ;-)
[20:10] <will3032840> Using
[20:11] <gordonjcp> snollux: it's worth digging into a little, in much the same way that it's worth knowing *why* you check the oil in your car as well as *how* you check it
[20:11] <snollux> gordonjcp: I believe you; I'm more used to the slackware/archlinux thing where I set up accounts manually, etc
[20:12] <snollux> so it's hard for me to sit and "just believe" sometimes  -- so I'll learn about it more
[20:12] <gordonjcp> snollux: it's the same in Arch
[20:12] <maicod> escott: so screen doesnt work :( I see unix has a command called stdin . I thought of using that to set stdin to a tty but I don't see which package for debian holds that program
[20:12] <snollux> is it now? it's been like 4 years since I set up a server there
[20:12] <snollux> I remember doing adduser http or something
[20:12] <gordonjcp> snollux: yeah, it's the same in pretty much any distro
[20:13] <gordonjcp> ah, that's something different
[20:13] <Xethron> Anyone here use 3G?
[20:13] <will3032840> using
[20:13] <ThinkT510> !find stdin | maicod
[20:13] <gordonjcp> snollux: same principle though; you start as root and drop privs
[20:13] <snollux> thanks for all the info, and you're definitely not coming across as condescending -- just helpful
[20:13] <gordonjcp> snollux: the Unix API is fun!
[20:14] <maicod> ubottu: thanks
[20:14] <gordonjcp> snollux: you're always you, except when you're pretending to be someone else
[20:14] <maicod> oops thanks ThinkT510
[20:14] <gordonjcp> snollux: and of course sometimes you're you but lying about being someone else ;-)
[20:14] <ThinkT510> maicod: not sure how helpful those results are though :)
[20:14] <snollux> @_@
[20:15] <snollux> deeeeep
[20:15] <maicod> ThinkT510 hehehe
[20:18] <escott> maicod, try serverfault.com/questions/21806/how-can-i-launch-a-screen-session-with-a-command-over-ssh-on-a-remote-server-fro
[20:19] <koglinjg> Hey, trying to figure out how to get my cpu fan running on ubuntu 12.04 (64bit) I have a toshiba L305D
[20:20] <maicod> escott: thanks will try it out :)
[20:20] <escott> maicod, actually nohup /bin/bash "screen -d -m sleep 10" works for me so screen -d -m should be enough
[20:20] <Jkessler> Hello, i'm trying to help a friend install ubuntu in the philippines.  She gets 12.04  32-bit desktop installing, selects manilla as a location.  i  have her download teamviewer deb file and install .. i try to add ppa's and it says there's gpg key problems and can't resolve launchpad.net ..?
[20:20] <gyre008> when I change upstart job definition do I have to reload the service or will upstart notice it automatically ?
[20:21] <Jkessler> i messed with  sources.list to try to change her to us servers, she's reinstalling setting location as US.. but any ideas?
[20:22] <koglinjg> Jkessler, http://popey.com/blog/2009/06/05/Easy_Script_To_Get_And_Install_PPA_GPG_Keys/
[20:22] <Cell> Is anyone else getting constant "System problem detected" messages on Ubuntu?
[20:22] <Jkessler> koglinjg, i'll give that a try thanks!
[20:23] <Cell> I dont understand why this new system error dialogue wont show me the error like before, and wants me to login as root to report the problem
[20:24] <koglinjg> does anyone know how to debug acpi and manually control the cpu fan?
[20:25] <Xethron> Anyone here use 3G?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> 3g
[20:25] <Xethron> yeah
[20:26] <escott> Cell, means a system service crashed. so only root can see the logs
[20:26] <will3032840> Hello!
[20:27] <Cell> how is it possible that a system service is crashing every minute or so when I boot up
[20:27] <Xethron> :(
[20:27] <will3032840> I was connected by telnet a minute ago...
[20:27] <Cell> I run Cinnamon on Ubuntu, do you think its a problem with Cinnamon instead of Ubuntu?
[20:27] <Jkessler> koglinjg know of a mirror for that script?  link is broken :(
[20:29] <will3032840> Cell I run LXDE, looks a bit like cinnamon, but faster
[20:29] <vlt> will3032840: You can install lubuntu-desktop and try.
[20:29] <will3032840> tried to use cinnamon on ubuntu one time, but found out it wasn't designed for it...
[20:30] <Cell> Does it have a cool taskbar, will3032840 ?
[20:30] <yekoms> rofl, icarly
[20:30] <will3032840> yes cell, it does
[20:30] <Cell> Because that is the most basic thing I want which Cinnamon actually has
[20:30] <Simplew> i have runned the Live CD and when running "grub-install /dev/sda" it says: PAth `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Instalation is impossible. Aborting. Can anyone tell me whats going on?
[20:30] <yekoms> Simplew, what are you trying to do?
[20:30] <yekoms> repair a broken grub?
[20:31] <Simplew> to recover the boot menu to be able to run linux, else it will go to windows
[20:31] <yekoms> if your loading a LiveCD to repair a broken grub, you MUST bind the drives
[20:31] <yekoms> Simplew, thats easy..hold please
[20:31] <yekoms> Simplew, type : mount --bind /dev/sda1 /mnt; mount --bind procfs /mnt; chroot /mnt
[20:31] <yekoms> as root on the liveCD user
[20:32] <NikLP> probably simple (poss embarrassing) question - is there a way to get alerts (bell etc) sent from irssi/bitlbee on my linode (remote) to an SSH terminal in my local ubuntu (Mint 13)? I can't grasp what's going on. Just want an visual or audio alert.
[20:32] <yekoms> Simplew, once thats complete, type: update-grub
[20:32] <will3032840> One time I had vista, then I got so fusterated I formatted C: 5 times and installed ubuntu right over it
[20:32] <koglinjg> Jkessler, A different one, but I check the link for the script this time and it is still valid, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/ubuntu-script-to-automatically-install.html
[20:32] <guntbert> !ot | will3032840
[20:32] <Jkessler> koglinjg thanks much
[20:33] <will3032840> ok
[20:33] <yekoms> guntbert, i think will is a troll. :P
[20:33] <gcds> Hello guys could you do favor and click like on my girlfriend photo? http://on.fb.me/SGfDcT
[20:33] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Google Chrome, went on youtube.com, actrivated HTML5 but I still get the message “Adobe Flash is needed to playback this video.” Any idea why?
[20:33] <Cell> !ot | gcds
[20:33] <yekoms> spam spam spam gcds
[20:33] <will3032840> sorry, I didn't know that was off topic... I'll stop.
[20:33] <yekoms> on.fb.name = cname.bit.ly
[20:33] <Simplew> yekoms: what you mean by /dev/sda1 that is refering to what ?
[20:33] <koglinjg> Anyone know where I can get help with acpi / cpu fan issues with ubuntu 12.04?
[20:34] <yekoms> well, /dev/sda1 is the IDE0 installed on the computer.
[20:34] <yekoms> which should contain both windows, and linux.
[20:34] <gcds> yekoms: I know
[20:34] <yekoms> did you install windows first, or linux Simplew ?
[20:34] <gcds> yekoms: but i really need help shes crying here...
[20:34] <yekoms> gcds, go spam your cash click links somewhere else. :/
[20:34] <yekoms> good, give her a razor and let her finish the job.
[20:34] <gcds> yekoms: no its simple fb link :D
[20:34] <Simplew> yekoms: i dont get what you mean, by sda1 you refering whar / is installed?
[20:34] <gcds> yekoms: you are crazy :D
[20:35] <guntbert> yekoms: let it drop please
[20:36] <yekoms> yes Simplew /dev/sda1 is where / is
[20:36] <yekoms> and the boot slice.
[20:36] <ThinkT510> Simplew: sda1 = 1st harddisk, 1st partition
[20:37] <Simplew> yekoms i did do this: # sudo chroot /mnt/root
[20:37] <Simplew> #(chroot) sudo mount -t proc proc /proc
[20:37] <Simplew> #(chroot) sudo mount -t sysfs sys /sys
[20:37] <Simplew> #(chroot) sudo mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts
[20:37] <FloodBot1> Simplew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <Simplew> the / is mounted in /mnt and also mounted /boot in /mnt/boot
[20:39] <yekoms> did you chroot /mnt ?
[20:39] <Simplew> yekoms: so i really dont get why is fauling
[20:39] <Simplew> yekoms: yes
[20:39] <yekoms> you broke the /boot
[20:39] <yekoms> ok, type update-grub, then paste results to pastebin.com and give me the URL
[20:39] <yekoms> did you manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[20:41] <Simplew> yekoms: no
[20:41] <yekoms> did you install windows after linux Simplew ?
[20:41] <Simplew> yekoms: yes
[20:41] <yekoms> you did it backwards, thats why its like this
[20:41] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | Simplew
[20:42] <yekoms> windows first, linux second, windows wipes out EVERY boot manager.
[20:42] <yekoms> so, you might need to issue grub-install first, then update-grub
[20:42] <yekoms> Simplew, ^
[20:42] <Simplew> yekoms: but in mageia that can be easily solved ith the boot repair thats from the DVD
[20:42] <Simplew> yekoms: grub-install /dev/sda also fails
[20:42] <yekoms> thats what we are doing at this point Simplew
[20:43] <yekoms> dont put a drive to it
[20:43] <yekoms> your already working on /dev/sda1
[20:43] <yekoms> just issue "install-grub"
[20:43] <yekoms> excuse me: grub-install
[20:44] <yekoms> some people just give up too easly.
[20:44] <yekoms> what happened simplew ?
[20:45] <will3032840> I got an issue now... when I insert my sd card that is perfectly fine into my ubuntu computer, it doesn't detect it
[20:45] <simplew> yekoms, root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/sda
[20:45] <simplew> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[20:45] <yekoms> you need to do /dev/sda1
[20:45] <simplew> yekoms, grub-install will only show the help
[20:45] <yekoms> dont forget the 1
[20:45] <yekoms> but you may need to unmount. try it first.
[20:45] <dr_willis> will3032840:  check dmesg command a few moments afer inserting it. and look for errors at the end. try mounting it by hand also.
[20:45] <simplew> yekoms, but why you say sda1????   boot its in sda3
[20:46] <yekoms> boot should be on sda1
[20:46] <simplew> yekoms, really?
[20:46] <yekoms> sda1 is the first partition to be read
[20:46] <yekoms> yes
[20:46] <simplew> yekoms, sda1 is where the windows boot partition
[20:46] <yekoms> i know.
[20:46] <yekoms> we're not using windows boot chainer.
[20:46] <yekoms> we need to use ubuntu/linux
[20:46] <simplew> of course not
[20:47] <yekoms> so, grub-install /dev/sda1
[20:47] <simplew> exactly
[20:47] <ThinkT510> yekoms: /boot doesn't need to be sda1
[20:47] <yekoms>  /boot SHOULD be on sda1
[20:47] <will3032840> dr_willis I checked dmesg no sign of the drive
[20:47] <simplew> yekoms, no, we need to use /boot thats in sda3
[20:47] <yekoms> if its on sda1, it simplifies all issues.
[20:47] <yekoms> then do /dev/sda3
[20:47] <dr_willis> will3032840:  does 'sudo fdisk -l' show it at all?
[20:47] <simplew> yekoms, your confused
[20:47] <simplew> yekoms, /# grub-install /dev/sda3
[20:47] <simplew> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting
[20:47] <ThinkT510> yekoms: he just told you windows was there, you want him to overwrite windows?
[20:47] <yekoms> simplew, BOOT goes on the FIRST drive on the motherboard.
[20:48] <yekoms> i want him to overwrite the windows boot loader. since it wont load linux.
[20:48] <yekoms> not overwrite windows..
[20:48] <simplew> yekoms, what?!?
[20:48] <yekoms> hang on.
[20:48] <dr_willis> yekoms:  then he wanted sda not sda1
[20:48] <will3032840> dr_willis sudo fdisk -l did not work
[20:48] <will3032840> it didn't detect the drive
[20:48] <dr_willis> will3032840: if it did not show the sd card. then either theres a card or reader issue
[20:49] <simplew> dr_willis, running grub-install /dev/sda  will give the same result as the one that for sda3
[20:49] <yekoms> simplew, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:49] <simplew> yekoms, yes im on it, and i did whats in there
[20:49] <will3032840> dr_willis it isn't the card, it's the reader ):
[20:49] <dr_willis> simplew:  err... you can install grub to the MBR of the drive.. or a partition...
[20:49] <yekoms> use that. its a iso you can boot and use to repair. as this is the common URL given to people.
[20:49] <dr_willis> ive rarely seen a need to install grub to the mbr of a partition. (im not sure what the actual issue is here today i just got here)
[20:50] <yekoms> simplew, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot what about this one?
[20:50] <yekoms> dr_willis, he installed windows after linux.
[20:50] <TJ-> simplew: Does your installation have a separate disk partition for /boot/, or is the /boot/ directory on the same partition as /  ?
[20:51] <will3032840> yekoms if he installed windows after linux, now you have to install windows again...
[20:51] <yekoms> the way it got explained to me, boot is always on the first part of the drive.
[20:51] <yekoms> will3032840, no, you can repair the boot loader.
[20:51] <will3032840> oh
[20:51] <ThinkT510> will3032840: that isn't helpful
[20:51] <yekoms> ThinkT510, thats why i told him he could repair the bootloader.
[20:52] <yekoms> if it was me, and i made this mistake on a clean install, i'd just install windows, then ubuntu
[20:52] <dr_willis> yekoms:  /boot/ partition is 'normally' on the first of the HD for historical reasons.. its not really needee to be there with most mondern hardware..
[20:53] <TJ-> yekoms: That's a large over-kill instead of simply using grub-install/grub-setup to re-write 440 bytes :)
[20:53] <ThinkT510> dr_willis +1
[20:53] <yekoms> and the first drive is sda. :P
[20:53] <yekoms> TJ-, i dont make the URLs, i just referr to them.
[20:53] <dr_willis> and it dosent have to be on the 'first' drive. you can set most bios;s to boot any of the hard drives these days
[20:53] <yekoms> ive ALWAYS repaired grub via livecd...using the mount command.
[20:53] <TJ-> simplew: Have we lost you?
[20:53] <dr_willis> That boot-repair tool in the wiki pages.. does wonders.
[20:54] <yekoms> dr_willis, how many people select IDE1/2/3 for a system drive? not your every day users.
[20:54] <usuario> aaa
[20:54] <yekoms> dr_willis, he said he used it.
[20:54] <dr_willis> yekoms:  its definatly doable..
[20:54] <yekoms> well, followed it.
[20:54] <usuario> esto de ubuntu es la puta mierda
[20:54] <yekoms> i know it is. but your everyday computer user doesnt know that..
[20:54] <yekoms> !mx
[20:54] <TJ-> !es | usuario
[20:54] <yekoms> oh its es
[20:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> why would it be mx o.o
[20:55] <simplew> sorry, i had to go to wc
[20:55] <TJ-> simplew: OK, lets recap carefully ...
[20:55] <TJ-> simplew: Does your installation have a separate disk partition for /boot/, or is the /boot/ directory on the same partition as /  ?
[20:55] <will3032840> bye everyone I gotta check something
[20:55] <usuario> hi my name is chellen
[20:55] <usuario> im chellen in my sofa
[20:55] <usuario> because i love this lol
[20:55] <usuario> pefjprg+rg
[20:55] <usuario> eg
[20:55] <usuario> er
[20:55] <usuario> ge
[20:55] <FloodBot1> usuario: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <usuario> g
[20:56] <usuario> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:56] <usuario> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
[20:56] <simplew> i have isntalled ubuntu in an encrypted LVM, and /boot is in another partition sda3, so i booted the LiveCD, opened the encrypted container and mounted it in /mnt  and mouted proc, dev and sys
[20:56] <usuario> hi my name is lol
[20:56] <usuario> JEJEJEJEJEJEJEJEJE
[20:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> someone kick him please :|
[20:57] <gordonjcp> !ops | usuario
[20:57] <Eloim> всем привет)))
[20:57] <TJ-> simplew: OK... when you did the mounts for the chroot, did you also do "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/" before entering the chroot?
[20:57] <usuario> yes,im a maniac witta gun
[20:57] <sergiu> привт
[20:57] <sergiu> Алоим
[20:57] <FloodBot1> sergiu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <Myrtti> sergiu: please stop.
[20:57] <simplew> TJ-, yes
[20:57] <BluesKaj> !ru | sergiu
[20:57] <Eloim> о ну наконец то русские))
[20:57] <sergiu> Eloim please stop
[20:58] <sergiu> oir you get banned
[20:58] <TJ-> simplew: OK, do you mind checking that for me from within the chroot? Just do "ls /boot/grub/" and you should see *lots* of grub-related files
[20:58] <Eloim> ok ))
[20:58] <sergiu> Eloim do you know in hardware?
[20:59] <sergiu> Eloim i want to buy an cooler pad for a non-turbo boast computer, is there any reason for that
[20:59] <Eloim> little bit
[20:59] <sergiu> :D
[20:59] <sergiu> its a laptop
[20:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> sergiu, Eloim take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:59] <usuario_> wtf is this lol
[20:59] <usuario_> efw
[20:59] <usuario_> ef
[20:59] <usuario_> wf
[20:59] <usuario_> wrfg
[20:59] <usuario_> er
[20:59] <FloodBot1> usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:59] <usuario_> ge
[21:00] <yekoms> about time
[21:00] <mgodzilla> oh my...
[21:00] <Myrtti> moving on
[21:00] <simplew> TJ-,  yes i did mounted boot and the root lvm before entering chroot
[21:00] <TJ-> simplew: And you *do* see the GRUB files in /boot/grub/ ?
[21:00] <Cell> When is 12.10 shipping out
[21:00] <simplew> TJ-, yes
[21:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> taht doesnt happen often ^^
[21:00] <Myrtti> Cell: last Thursday of October
[21:01] <Cell> hmm, about 3 weeks
[21:01] <TJ-> simplew: OK, needed to be sure. Now... the *current* sda, is that the device that should boot during a normal start (it's not a USB device for example?)
[21:03] <simplew> i need to leave
[21:04] <simplew> ill be back later
[21:04] <simplew> TJ-, thanks for the tips
[21:05] <TJ-> simplew: From what I can see, your issue of "Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot" is caused by not mounting  /dev/ within the chroot so the installer cannot find sda3
[21:05] <yekoms> he did mount --bind procfs /mnt
[21:06] <TJ-> yekoms: If so, then his chroot command was totally wrong.  simplew  wrote that he did "sudo chroot /mnt/root" so he's going to be in totally the wrong place one way or the other
[21:06] <yekoms> i told him to do: chroot /mnt
[21:06] <yekoms> chroot /mnt/root will act as / :/
[21:06] <saquib> :)
[21:07] <yekoms> i didnt see him say he did sudo chroot /mnt/root
[21:07] <TJ-> I think proc is mounted outside the chroot, since he did say he *can* see the files in /boot/grub/ from inside the chroot.
[21:07] <ludwin01> is there any application like ccleaner?
[21:07] <yekoms> he never did.
[21:07] <yekoms> ludwin01, yeah 'rm' just delete what you need.
[21:07] <TJ-> Since if he'd mounted the root to /mnt/ only, then chroot /mnt/root/ would be the user root's home directory, and /boot/grub/ wouldn't exist
[21:08] <yekoms> or if there is tons of DIRs, use a script
[21:08] <yekoms> TJ-, i know :)
[21:08] <yekoms> chroot /mnt/root will act as /  <-
[21:08] <TJ-> yekoms: "21.27  <Simplew> yekoms i did do this: # sudo chroot /mnt/root"
[21:08] <yekoms> i didnt see that :(
[21:09] <ludwin01> thanks @yekoms but im not talking about commands
[21:09] <TJ-> So if he's mounted proc sys dev on /mnt/ the chroot has no devie files
[21:09] <yekoms> so he was his own problem :P
[21:09] <ThinkT510> !cookie | TJ-
[21:09] <yekoms> i guess he thinks /mnt/root is the root of /dev/sda1
[21:10] <yekoms> or whatever his booting drive is/was.
[21:10] <TJ-> Yes... PEBBAK :)
[21:10] <yekoms> !cookie
[21:10] <yekoms> aww :( no cookie for i
[21:10] <TJ-> ThinkT510: How kind... seeing as my partner is making me a cuppa, too :p
[21:10] <yekoms> cuppa?
[21:10]  * TJ- loves dipping gis cookies in a cuppa
[21:10] <ThinkT510> cup of tea/coffee
[21:11] <TJ-> yekoms: It's a British expression ... means a cup/mug of tea
[21:11] <yekoms> oh.
[21:11] <K350> I've ip telephony from my ISP. Any idea of what software I need to set it up withotu bying a "phonebox" ?
[21:11] <yekoms> damn brits :P
[21:11] <vlt> Hello. I installed Google Chrome from their Ubuntu repo via apt-get. It’s version 22.0.1229.79. How to enable the Flash 11.3 that should ship with it?
[21:11] <BluesKaj> TJ-, not just british :)
[21:11] <ThinkT510> vlt: chrome isn't in the default repos (chromium is though)
[21:12] <yekoms> dont you use flash-plugin for flash?
[21:12] <BluesKaj> chromium-browser vlt
[21:12] <vlt> ThinkT510: That’ſ why I used Google’s (“their”) repo.
[21:12] <yekoms> he wants google chrome.
[21:13] <yekoms> i think firefox > chrome
[21:13] <vlt> BluesKaj: I need Chrome and the 11.3 Flash that is built-in.
[21:13] <BluesKaj> !chrome
[21:13] <ThinkT510> vlt: uninstall all other forms of flash and the builtin chrome version should be used
[21:15] <Smackbook> every time I boot my laptop or bring it back from suspend I have to run "synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizTwoFingerScroll=1 ClickPad=1 RightButtonAreaLeft=1700 RightButtonAreaTop=1511" I have made it an icon on my taskbar that I just click ever single time.  Is there a way to make this automatic?
[21:15] <TJ-> yekoms: back to simplew's problem... you said "i guess he thinks /mnt/root is the root of /dev/sda1" - no, I don't think so. He's using an LVM encrpyted LV as the root (unlocked via /etc/crypttab) and then dmsetup puts it in /dev/mapper/root (or similar name). So he's manually unlocked that, and mounted /dev/mapper/root to /mnt/root/
[21:15] <yekoms> have you tried putting that command in .bashrc?
[21:15] <yekoms> idk if that can be done like that Smackbook
[21:16] <vlt> ThinkT510: There’s no flash installed.
[21:16] <Smackbook> yekoms: but does .bashrc run for the gui when it starts up? or just for terminals?
[21:16] <BluesKaj> vlt, then you'll be stuck with using chrome exclusively , if you want to use websites with flash content
[21:16] <TJ-> yekoms: And he also said that the separate partition for boot is sda3, and that he'd done "mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/root/boot" prior to the chroot. So the only issue left is mounting proc sys dev outside the chroot rather than inside it. Easy to solve.
[21:16] <vlt> ThinkT510: No occurance of "flash" in about:plugins
[21:16] <yekoms> uhm, no, try .xsession ? Smackbook
[21:17] <vlt> BluesKaj: I only want to use one website with flash.
[21:17] <yekoms> well if he followed my mount line i sent him, he would have mounted and chroot'd to the right chroot ;p
[21:17] <Smackbook> yekoms: hmm i dont even have a .xsession file, i should create it in ~?
[21:18] <yekoms> no
[21:18] <yekoms> hold
[21:18] <TJ-> yekoms: I know... when he returns we know how to solve his problem now
[21:18] <BluesKaj> yeah sure vlt , now you do ..what about later ...but that's your call
[21:18] <akmsji> .
[21:19] <yekoms> i dont know what X uses as a rc file Smackbook
[21:19] <Lanta> hey I installed "gnome-panel" because I hate unity... only just realised this is actually gnome 3 not 2... anyway I can get a tray area back - and like perhaps a way to move panels and like things I'm normally used to in gnome 2?
[21:19] <dr_willis> Depeneding on what you select on the lightdm screen - theres a .Xsession that it 'can' use
[21:19] <yekoms> i swear its .Xsession..but thats on freebsd.
[21:19] <dr_willis> if you make it
[21:19] <dr_willis> it used to be .xinitrc
[21:19] <yekoms> yeah..back in the day
[21:20] <yekoms> Smackbook, you can try putting that command in .Xsession
[21:20] <yekoms> X must be capped.
[21:20] <dr_willis> example .xinitrc, or .Xsession (2 lines) -->   xterm &       exec icewm
[21:20] <dr_willis> .Xsession is not loaded IN ADDATITION to your normal X session
[21:20] <dr_willis> its a way to make a custom session
[21:20] <yekoms> what is then?
[21:20] <vlt> BluesKaj: I didn’t use Flash before and I’m pretty sure I won’t. But I need it to run on that one website and there I need 11.3 which should ship with Google Chrome. I just son’t know how to activate it. It’s not listed under about:plugins.
[21:21] <dr_willis> Use the autorun directory/feature for stuff you want auto ran normally
[21:21] <yekoms> autorun directory?
[21:21] <dr_willis> !autorun
[21:21] <dr_willis> !autostart
[21:21] <dr_willis> ~/.config/autostart/
[21:21] <zoktar> anyone on a symbian device that has gotten it working as a webcam?
[21:21] <_Marek_> Hi all - just wanted to spread the word - Ubuntu parallel supercomputer for $99 at kickstarter - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone
[21:22] <yekoms> that'll work for Smackbook then. ;P
[21:22] <Smackbook> dr_willis: but do those run when you come back from suspend, i thought it was only on startup?
[21:22] <yekoms> damn spammers.
[21:22] <jrib> _Marek_: don't ever do that again please
[21:22] <Smackbook> actually i think I found a proper solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1855689
[21:22] <dr_willis> Smackbook:  I know of no user scripts that run on returning from suspend. theres system scripts..
[21:23] <_Marek_> jrib: why not? It's ubuntu based :)
[21:23] <yekoms> i dont set my computers to suspend..so i wouldnt know, nor do i need any special parms for my mouse
[21:23] <jrib> _Marek_: this channel is for *support* not advertising
[21:25] <_Marek_> jrib: not advertising just would love more people to support the project, not affiliated
[21:25] <k1l> !ot > _Marek_
[21:25] <BluesKaj> vlt, most websites use flash content , I suggest you install flashplayer from adobe rather than the repos , extract it and then place libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , because chrome browsers look in that file for the flashplayer
[21:26] <_Marek_> Ah I get it, sorry didn't know about that :)
[21:26] <stephenh> hello, is anyone using libpam-mount successfully to automount cifs shares on a windows domain?
[21:26] <vlt> BluesKaj: Adobe has no 11.3 for linux. Their latest is 11.3
[21:26] <Benxyzzy> Deleting bash history items with -d doesn't work for me, if the command has already been filed in ~/.bash_history . It disappears from the history output but returns if I close & reopen the shell.
[21:26] <vlt> *11.2
[21:26] <Lanta> fixed nvm
[21:26] <BluesKaj> why do you need 11.3 , vlt ?
[21:27] <jrib> Benxyzzy: what is your question?
[21:27] <Benxyzzy> jrib: How do I set bash up so history -d always and permanently deletes the specified history item?
[21:28] <yekoms> Benxyzzy, you can setup a alias.
[21:28] <vlt> BluesKaj: There are problems especially with that one website I need to use Flash on. They know about the problem with 11.2 and write about it on their site. Maybe over 9,000 users are affected.
[21:28] <jrib> Benxyzzy: let me see if I observe that behavior here
[21:29] <yekoms> its history -c
[21:29] <BluesKaj> vlt, i see, do windows users encounter problems there as well ?
[21:29] <yekoms> that'll clear it, or echo "" > .bash_history
[21:29] <vlt> BluesKaj: I think no, because they can have newer Flash versions from Adobe.
[21:30] <jrib> Benxyzzy: the behavior you described happens here too.  Maybe that's expected behavior.  You can just delete the entry in ~/.bash_history obviously. Check with #bash if there's a better way if no one here knows
[21:30] <BluesKaj> fair enough vlt , sounds like a challenge '
[21:30] <Benxyzzy> jrib: I completely forgot about #bash, thanks
[21:31] <vlt> The Ubuntu wiki and the Adobe website say that Google Chrome ships with its own built-in  Flash 11.3.  But it doesn’t appear in the list of plugins here :(
[21:32] <dr_willis> vlt:  you have to use some command line options to enable it i belive. im not even sureit appears in the plugins list then
[21:32] <vlt> dr_willis: I tested on several sites. It seems to be disabled.
[21:33] <dr_willis> tested it how vlt? what cli option did you use to chrome?
[21:33] <vlt> dr_willis: None. `man google-chrome` doesn’t mention flash.
[21:34] <dr_willis> vlt:  then thats why its not working.
[21:34] <dr_willis> its a testing feature that has to  be explicatly enabled
[21:34] <vlt> dr_willis: Do you know how?
[21:36] <dr_willis> vlt:  seen guides on it at webupd8 or omgubuntu.. i never tried it
[21:37] <vlt> dr_willis: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086 says it should be enabled by default.
[21:38] <dr_willis> vlt:  never noticed or tried. Im back to using firefox these days
[21:38] <dr_willis> last guides i saw mentioned some ppapi-flash options
[21:39] <Treadstone__71> Hello everyone.
[21:39] <sparkybluefox> bam!
[21:40] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2544/where-is-the-flash-in-chrome seem to mention issues with it. but im not sure how old/new the anwers are
[21:44] <duncan12> hello, if I restore to ~ with an old Deja Dup backup it won't touch newer files with the same name as those in the backup right? eg it won't overwrite anything?
[21:48] <Jkessler> vlt: i use SRWare Iron, chromium based.  i think i had to manually install it, but it works
[21:48] <Jkessler> manually install flashplayer that is
[21:49] <daze> http://i.imgur.com/jCxLh.png - is this showing in normal colors to you?
[21:49] <daze> my monitor suddenly is screwing up colors bigtime ;/
[21:50] <daze> I'm not sure if it's the hardware or the software
[21:50] <Jkessler> looks fine to me
[21:50] <Jkessler> check cable?
[21:50] <daze> cable is digital
[21:50] <Jkessler> hmm
[21:50] <daze> blacks and whites are ok, but when I put #ff0000 (red) to GIMP, it displays yellow
[21:50] <Jkessler> google looks fine
[21:50] <Jkessler> the logo
[21:51] <daze> it looks bad to me :(
[21:51] <daze> so it must be the monitor then? strange..
[21:51] <TJ-> daze: power it off completely (the monitor) and power up again
[21:56] <Intermediate> +i
[21:56] <codescience> can i still download ubuntu server 8.10?
[21:56] <jrib> codescience: you can but it isn't supported anymore, so you shouldn't
[21:56] <TheFloatingBrain> Hello!
[21:57] <codescience> yeah it's for a project. non-supported is not important for me.
[21:57] <jrib> codescience: why don't you just use a supported release?
[21:57] <navalastro> hola
[21:57] <codescience> i am already.
[21:57] <jrib> codescience: why don't you just use a supported release for the project?
[21:57] <codescience> but also need 8.10.
[21:57] <Intermediate> ubuntu server 12.04
[21:58] <jrib> codescience: why do you need 8.10 specifically?
[21:58] <navalastro> speak espanish
[21:58] <jrib> !es | navalastro
[21:58] <codescience> that's not important. i was just asking whether i can still download it.
[21:59] <TJ-> codescience: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.3/
[21:59] <navalastro> ok
[21:59] <navalastro> who are you '
[21:59] <codescience> thanks.
[21:59] <navalastro> ?
[22:00] <TJ-> codescience: sorry, wrong release. Here's the correct one! http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[22:00] <codescience> haha, thanks.
[22:00] <navalastro> estoy hablando con personas?
[22:00] <jrib> navalastro: no, /join #ubuntu-es
[22:00] <navalastro> o con el ordenador
[22:01] <navalastro> ¿Quién es jrib
[22:01] <navalastro> '
[22:01] <navalastro> ?
[22:01] <jrib> navalastro: english only here.  For spanish: /join #ubuntu-es
[22:01] <navalastro> ok
[22:02] <navalastro> I don´t speak inglish
[22:02] <Codenomics> Is there a (stable) minimal version of ubuntu?
[22:02] <jrib> !minimal | Codenomics
[22:02] <Codenomics> not talking barebones... just well then
[22:03] <jrib> Codenomics: what?
[22:03] <Codenomics> that answers that
[22:03] <navalastro> have you got the urban terror or tewords
[22:03] <gordonjcp> it still wants 4G of disk space though
[22:03] <Codenomics> jrib: sorry lol I started typing then read that and forgot to delete my text before typing "well then"
[22:03] <jrib> Codenomics: ah, ok :)
[22:03] <Codenomics> what wants 4GB of space?
[22:03] <navalastro> vay
[22:04] <gordonjcp> Codenomics: Ubuntu
[22:04] <Codenomics> minimal?
[22:04] <gordonjcp> Codenomics: even Lubuntu won't install without 4.4GB free
[22:04] <Codenomics> joking right?
[22:04] <gordonjcp> nope
[22:04] <Intermediate> navalastro únase al canal en ubuntu-es
[22:04] <navalastro> adieu
[22:04] <gordonjcp> Lubuntu *requires* 4.4GB to install
[22:04] <Codenomics> well... that is a little extreme
[22:04] <jrib> gordonjcp: the minimal install won't install with less than 4GB?
[22:04] <gordonjcp> jrib: nope
[22:04] <jrib> that's silly :)
[22:04] <Codenomics> that doesnt seem logical
[22:04] <gordonjcp> jrib: well, it wouldn't as of yesterday
[22:04] <gordonjcp> it's a limitation in the installer
[22:05] <gordonjcp> limitation wasn't my first choice of word
[22:05] <Codenomics> wait... you are talking about it says you have to have a 4GB space to install...
[22:05] <Codenomics> not that it takes up 4GB of space
[22:05] <gordonjcp> but I am aware that some people in this channel have the Gaelic and consider the word I would originally have used to be inappropriate under the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[22:05] <gordonjcp> Codenomics: yup
[22:05] <gordonjcp> Codenomics: and that is intentional
[22:06] <gordonjcp> you may resume swearing in a foreign heathen lingo
[22:06] <Codenomics> oh that isnt an issue
[22:06] <Codenomics> what?
[22:06] <gordonjcp> Codenomics: it's insane, and worthy of pithy comments
[22:07] <Codenomics> that doesnt hurt my feelings at all. I have plenty of space
[22:07] <TJ-> The installer space-check is done before it know all the packages to be installed, so it plays it safe by checking that there's space available for everything
[22:08] <duncan12> Hi, in Deja Dup if I restore an old backup of ~ into "Original Location" it won't touch files still existing right? So it won't overwrite? just checking..
[22:08] <Codenomics> I have 900GB of space, that doesnt bug me at all
[22:08] <gordonjcp> TJ-: right, but for a "lightweight" distro it should be adjusted down
[22:08] <Codenomics> ^^ agreed
[22:08] <daze> ok, so I turned off the monitor and it didn't turn on back. So I now attached another monitor and the colors are ok. Then I turned on the first one, and the colors are ok too. I'm afraid to turn it off now :]
[22:08] <gordonjcp> TJ-: I ran into this and began using some very rude words when trying to install Lubuntu on an Eee 701
[22:09] <TJ-> gordonjcp: I know the feeling :)
[22:09] <TJ-> daze: spooky!
[22:09] <Codenomics> i just need a small, clean install. dont need all the extra fun stuff. setting this up as a media center
[22:09] <daze> as this isn't an Ubuntu failure, I'm sorry to ask here, but can something be up with my monitor's chip or something?
[22:09] <gordonjcp> TJ-: I've been experimenting with buildroot
[22:09] <gordonjcp> daze: what exactly is it doing?
[22:09] <zykotick9> duncan12: i'd use alis (see "/msg ubottu alis" for details) to see if there is a deja dup channel perhaps?  good luck.
[22:10] <jrib> gordonjcp: there's some workaround for an earlier version here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Installation not sure if you've come across it
[22:10] <Codenomics> has been a while since I downloaded an ubuntu iso
[22:10] <gordonjcp> jrib: I've solved the problem a different way now; -)
[22:11] <seswu> Hello - I'd like to install an oldish game on xubuntu. It apparently uses gtk 1.2 and has trouble because I have gtk 2.20. So.. I need to install gtk 1.2? Will that cause issues?
[22:11] <zykotick9> Codenomics: i'd recommend installing from mini (see "/msg ubottu mini" for details)
[22:11] <daze> goddard: not turning on with the pc or displaying vertical colored lines on black. One time it turned on and displayed yellow instead of red everywhere (as if it were confusing RGB with GRB or something). But now colors are ok somehow..
[22:11] <jrib> gordonjcp: the installer should probably say something like "click here to try your luck anyway"
[22:11] <ghost__> i am going to make ubuntu saver what you bro think
[22:11] <zykotick9> Codenomics: no cruft, just what you want.
[22:11] <Codenomics> going to get the mini now
[22:11] <gordonjcp> jrib: heh, yeah
[22:11] <Codenomics> hopefully it agrees with my hardware
[22:12] <zykotick9> Codenomics: bonus, supports more h/w then livecd ;)
[22:12] <gordonjcp> jrib: like the old Slackware installer had, which would warn you if you selected more packages than it could fit onto your drive, but let you take a shot at it anyway
[22:12] <Intermediate> sewwu to install 1.2 gtk is opening up a system vulenability
[22:13] <gordonjcp> jrib: the reasoning being that just because you can't *see* enough space, doesn't mean you won't *get* enough spac
[22:13] <gordonjcp> *space
[22:13] <Codenomics> zykotick9: for some reason my hardware does not get along with linux distros
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Intermediate: that's pretty unlikely
[22:13] <zykotick9> Codenomics: then you have the wrong h/w ;)  good luck.
[22:14] <gordonjcp> seswu: what's the game?
[22:14] <rfsfwrfw> :)
[22:14] <Codenomics> zykotick9: I fully agree lol
[22:14] <seswu> Intermediate: Hmm, bugger. A bad one? I'd like to use 1.2 for the old game only, so other software shouldn't be a problem. Provided I can switch versions like that.
[22:14] <Codenomics> zykotick9: worst case, ubuntu mini fights me and I just use my fallback distro
[22:15] <devslash2> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a flash drive I get to the initial screen where I select the language then choose install Ubuntu server and the screen goes blank with no error.  The only error I'm getting is that the keyboard lights start flashing and I have to hold down the power button to force it to shut down
[22:15] <gordonjcp> seswu: I doubt that there's any valid vulnerability
[22:15] <gordonjcp> seswu: what is the game you're trying to install?
[22:15] <Intermediate> seswu It will require compiling
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | devslash2 you mean this?
[22:16] <TJ-> devslash: sounds like corruption - have you checked the MD5/SHA sum of the flash device installer image?
[22:16] <devslash2> Ok ill try that
[22:16] <pit_> hi guys/girls how are you doing today?
[22:16] <Codenomics> nomodeset is my favorite pram
[22:16] <Codenomics> param**
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> pit_  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:16] <seswu> gordonjcp: Docking Station for Linux. I checked if the windows version would work with wine instead, but that seems an equally thorny issue.
[22:16] <devslash2> No go.  Still same error with nomodeset
[22:16] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: would that be an issue with server install (i'm not sure)?  but i believe there may be issues using server from usb... and i'm not refering to the poster's issue.
[22:16] <TJ-> devslash: When the system locks like that, interrupts have gone. It's not "nomodeset"
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  devslash2 there's also #ubuntu-server
[22:17] <Codenomics> devslash2: noapic
[22:17] <devslash2> Tj no how do I do that
[22:17] <seswu> gordonjcp: (Docking Station = Creatures thingy, dates back some 10 years)
[22:17] <TJ-> devslash: That is sometimes caused by trying to start 64-bit on a 32-bit CPU
[22:17] <gordonjcp> seswu: I'm guessing it's very closed source?
[22:17] <gordonjcp> seswu: have a shot at building gtk1.2
[22:17] <pit_> I have an interesting problem, see if any one could help. I accidently formated my 500 gig Win xp HDD with gparted and am currious to see if there was a way for me to recover my boot sector to recover windows
[22:17] <gordonjcp> seswu: the worst that'll happen is it won't work
[22:18] <gordonjcp> pit_: testdisk maybe
[22:18] <devslash2> Tj I downloaded the 32 bit version
[22:18] <gordonjcp> pit_: make a copy of the whole disk first
[22:18] <seswu> Intermediate: Compiling is okay. Just as long as I don't need to do it over each time I want to play :]
[22:18] <TJ-> devslash: OK, that would start in either arch... We are talking about intel/AMD CPU here aren't we?
[22:18] <pit_> should I do a dd.img of the disk or just copy it to a diff partion
[22:18] <Intermediate> seswu  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+/1.2/
[22:18] <devslash2> Tj when I do the check discount for defects option I run into the same error
[22:19] <devslash2> Yea I have an Intel clu
[22:19] <devslash2> Cpu
[22:19] <TJ-> devslash: I'd hazard a guess that the ISO image downloaded with some corruption, or the USB device image got corrupted when written.
[22:19] <seswu> gordonjcp: Closedsource yes, but also freeware. And there's a still-active community around it, it seems.
[22:19] <TJ-> !md5 | devslash
[22:20] <gordonjcp> seswu: maybe you should gauge the interest in either buying out the source, or making a modern remake
[22:20] <pit_> gordonjcp: should make a dd.img file or do ( dd if=/deva of=dev/c ) ?
[22:20] <gordonjcp> pit_: I'd use dd
[22:21] <gordonjcp> right, nn all
[22:21] <seswu> gordonjcp: Yup, that's my philosophy too, mostly.. I'm not sure how to install the package though. It's gone from the normal servers it seems, but available on launchpad? So I should add something to my repositories somehow?
[22:21] <gordonjcp> seswu: for gtk1.2?
[22:22] <gordonjcp> I think you'll need to build it from source
[22:22] <devslash2> Shit I just remembered something. The Ubuntu server iso is 709mb. It won't fit on a standard cdr will it?
[22:22] <seswu> gordonjcp: Well, making my own game comes -after- seeing how this one behaves :)
[22:22] <gordonjcp> seswu: if you were *excessively* clever you'd write a wrapper library that wraps Gtk2 and presents a Gtk1.2-compatible interface ;-)
[22:22] <gordonjcp> anyway, nn all
[22:22] <seswu> gordonjcp: Yes, gtk1.2.
[22:22] <gordonjcp> devslash2: use a USB stick
[22:22] <pit_> gordonjcp: ok, I have the image created and installed testdisk and photrec on my Ubuntu usb live flash drive. But I'm unclear on how to use testdisk. Saw several tutorials on testdisk , cgsecurity but none detailing my needs
[22:23] <gordonjcp> devslash2: optical media is dying, netcraft confirms it
[22:23] <TJ-> devslash: I thought you have it on a flash drive?
[22:23] <devslash2> Gordonjcp I did but I think it's corrupted because I can't install Ubuntu from it
[22:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> devslash2: er, 709mb should easily fit on a modern cd disk
[22:23] <seswu> gordonjcp: That'd be clever, yup.. and, well, timeconsuming :]
[22:24] <TJ-> devslash: take the MD5sum of the usb image, it should/will match the published MD5 of the ISO if its good. Best to first check the downloaded ISO image, because if that is corrupted the flash image is bound to be
[22:24] <seswu> gordonjcp: *makes a note on compiling from source.. ack. Thanks though :>*
[22:25] <pit_> gordonjcp:  do you know of a tutorial that would help me with my issues, I saw several other testdisk walkthroughs but only to recover non-boot disk
[22:27] <TJ-> pit_: before you start, what precisely did you do with gparted to 'reformat' the drive? It may be possible to reverse that
[22:27] <daze> ok, so the problem is 100% in my monitor. I restarted the PC and paused upon POST screen. The "Award bios" logo was the wrong color. Turning the monitor off&on results in one of the three states: black screen (sometimes with colored vertical lines, but rarely), wrong colors (as often as the black screen), good colors (rarely). Has anyone encountered anything similar in their lives? :/  The monitor is Samsung SyncMaster 214T (21.7") and some 8
[22:27] <daze>  years old..
[22:28] <TJ-> daze: Replace the capacitors on the power board
[22:28] <daze> as a matter of fact, I did that this spring
[22:28] <pit_> TJ-: I was going to format my external and clicked the drop down to select it. the clicked format , apply . looked down after maybe 3 seconds and saw my mistake. hit cancel
[22:28] <daze> I replaced them twice already during the monitor's lifetime
[22:28] <TJ-> daze: the electrolytics will be starting to bulge as they gas - common issue on many devices.
[22:28] <TJ-> daze: 3rd time lucky?
[22:29] <dak0> !games
[22:29] <daze> yeah, I know. But when the capacitors didn't hold their load, the screen would start to flicker. This time it's totally weird.. :/
[22:29] <TJ-> pit_: OK, but what did you configure on gparted before going ahead? a single primary partition? or a primary partition with an ext3/4 file-system within it? Those details will tell us how likely/easy it would be to revert
[22:29] <daze> it's like the monitor doesn't know it's subpixel order or something
[22:29] <Redleg97> How can I prevent update manager on Ubuntu 12.04 saying "connection lost" everytime I try to update even though the connection IS working (mind you I am using Ubuntu on Parallels 7 on a Macbook w/ Mountain Lion wireless connection)?
[22:30] <daze> as whites and blacks are ok, but R = G
[22:30] <pit_> TJ-: sorry left that out, single primary ntfs partion containing windows xp
[22:30] <Redleg97> QUESSTION: How can I prevent update manager on Ubuntu 12.04 saying "connection lost" everytime I try to update even though the connection IS working (mind you I am using Ubuntu on Parallels 7 on a Macbook w/ Mountain Lion and wireless connection)?
[22:30] <TJ-> daze: I've repaired several - might be worth searching on the model, for that kind of issue. Could be diodes on the signal input circuit. What input are you using, HDMI? Can you try alternate inputs see if they are also affected?
[22:32] <TJ-> pit_: OK, so the disk started off with a single primary partition with NTFS, and you wrote that again with gparted? I'm trying to understand what was on the disk before *and* after gparted was let loose :)
[22:32] <daze> I'm using DVI. I'll try connecting to another DVI port on the monitor now :]
[22:32] <casualuser> greetings! )
[22:32] <TJ-> daze: I have several Samsung syncmasters here, too. only issue with them was the inverts, but they were done under warranty
[22:33] <casualuser> can someone suggest me keys for dpkg
[22:33] <pit_> TJ-: yes, before - single primary windows xp partion at 500gigs , after single blank ntfs partion at 500gigs
[22:33] <casualuser> to force another arch package install
[22:33] <casualuser> used sudo dpkg --force-depends --force-architecture --force-overwrite -i ./libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10.2_i386.deb
[22:34] <casualuser> but it reply libc6:i386 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 cannot be configured because libc6:amd64 is in a different version (2.15-0ubuntu10)
[22:34] <lantizia_> Lo, can anyone remember the name of the theme that used to be the gnome default?  (it wasn't very dark, used the normal tango icons)
[22:34] <TJ-> pit_: OK... If it wrote a new, blank, NTFS file-system to the partition it's likely it'll have over-written the $MFT (master file table). That pretty much means the structure and naming is a gonna
[22:35] <bunni1987> hi i have a big problem with my computer. i have ubuntu12.04 i dont have the internet icon anymore i am in some loopback thing for the internet instead of my ethernet. found that in network tools and i have lost control as admin. software center has diaappeared and i have users that shouldnt be here i did not create them can anyone help me solve this problem please.
[22:35] <casualuser> lantizia_, try to look for 'luna' theme
[22:35] <lantizia_> casualuser, nah that's not it
[22:36] <casualuser> lantizia_, at least this one should be available and looks clear
[22:36] <rodgersayshi> It was Tango
[22:36] <TJ-> pit_: There is a mirror of the MFT, but if gparted did the entire job then the mirror will have been replaced too.
[22:36] <bunni1987> and the ssh agent is active and i had it disbled
[22:36] <lantizia_> rodgersayshi, the theme wasn't called tango was it?
[22:36] <lantizia_> Clearlooks! that's it
[22:36] <lantizia_> thanks for the hint in that direction casualuser  :P
[22:36] <TJ-> pit_: If you use testdisk, in the advanced menu, select the NTFS partition choose boot, then "repair MFT".
[22:37] <casualuser> lantizia_, as i remember luna looks very similar to clearlooks but have more smooth colors
[22:37] <TJ-> bunni1987:  has any person other than you had physical access to the PC?
[22:37] <bunni1987> no
[22:37] <casualuser> any dpkg guru here?
[22:37] <TJ-> bunni1987: Have you allowed any remote users access in any way?
[22:37] <bunni1987> tj: no no one has had any access
[22:37] <diverdude> How do i route git ssh to one server and standard ssh terminal requests to another server?
[22:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the swap partition is what holds the RAM contents during hibernation, current?
[22:38] <hmmwhatsthisdo> s/current/correct
[22:38] <pit_> TJ-: I'm not sure but gpated only ran for may 2 seconds , ok i can try that . This is killing me. I've been organizing my files and lost alot of things i needed. I used photorec to recover files but it was a night mare.
[22:38] <TJ-> bunni1987: The symptoms you describe suggest someone/something has had unauthorised access.
[22:38] <TJ-> pit_: If it only ran for 2 seconds you might be in luck!
[22:38] <daze> ok, I've connected via RGB and can reproduce the bad bahaviour. It's grayscale now! :D
[22:38] <casualuser> diverdude, try to use services on different ports
[22:38] <Redleg97> How can I prevent update manager on Ubuntu 12.04 saying "connection lost" everytime I try to update even though the connection IS working (mind you I am using Ubuntu on Parallels 7 on a Macbook w/ Mountain Lion wireless connection)?  Thanks for your help :)
[22:38] <pit_> TJ-: 700 folders of uniquely named files , after i just finished renaming them
[22:39] <TJ-> daze: sounds like the colour drivers might be at fault
[22:39] <diverdude> casualuser: what does that mean
[22:39] <dwarder> how do i restart vnc server from cli?
[22:39] <bunni1987> tj:no i have been on here before my ex takes over my windows al the time so i changed to linux and i was told to do a reinstall and come back on here for help so i did and the people said i should be ok and to disable ssh but it only lasted a few days and i dont know what to do to make it secure so he cant do it anymore
[22:39] <TJ-> pit_: I feel for you - in the past I've spent 3 weeks recovering NTFS file-systems for businesses
[22:39] <daze> TJ-: but it has to be a problem inside the monitor, as it affects the internal monitor menus as well
[22:40] <hmmwhatsthisdo> bunni1987: how computer-savvy is your ex?
[22:40] <daze> those menus do not go through the gpu at all
[22:40] <bunni1987> extreamly
[22:40] <TJ-> daze: yes, I'd bet if you are lucky, it'll be capacitors in the colour driver circuits, or maybe MoSFETs
[22:40] <pit_> TJ-: its been about 2 weeks. got my important docs back, resume , job search etc back but need my system , lots of unique reg edit mods and batch files i wrote
[22:40] <dwarder> just kill this? /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable ?
[22:41] <dwarder> this is what i have upon ps axu
[22:41] <bunni1987> hmmwhatsthisdo: extreamley
[22:41] <dwarder> and i need to restart it over ssh
[22:41] <dwarder> anyone?
[22:42] <hmmwhatsthisdo> bunni1987: it's possible he's using recovery mode to get a root terminal access (read: can do anything) and setting up ways to get in and/or wreak havoc
[22:42] <TJ-> pit_: If the testdisk tools aren't enough there are commercial Windows tools you can use from a liveCD or BartPE CD
[22:42] <casualuser>  diverdude, use ssh running at port 22 and use git on 9418
[22:42] <pit_> TJ-: should I make an image before trying your solution?
[22:42] <TJ-> bunni1987: I thought you said no one else has physical access to the PC?
[22:43] <bunni1987> hmmwhatsthisso:how do i keep him out of there once i do a reinstall
[22:43] <daze> TJ-: ok, I'll try disassembling it tomorrow and changing the capacitors. I've changed the capacitors on the power board earlier, so bad capacitors on other boards sounds like a plausible thing. Thanks ;)
[22:43] <diverdude> casualuser: but if both use ssh?
[22:43] <TJ-> pit_: If you have the spare capacity on another disk, yes!
[22:43] <ghost__> how can i make a linux saver
[22:43] <TJ-> daze: before you do, I highly recommend some intense Googling of the model and symptoms
[22:43] <bunni1987> tj: he doesnt he has not step foot in this house for 2 years i have the police involved but they said they cant doanything he isnt stealing anything
[22:43] <pit_> TJ-: would you do a dd.img file or direct copy
[22:43] <daze> TJ-: ok, will do that too ;]
[22:44] <casualuser> diverdude, you can use some servers of the same type like ssh or http/s on different time at the same time
[22:44] <TJ-> bunni1987: So if no-one else has access to the PC, no-one else can change it but you.
[22:44] <casualuser> diverdude, like two apaches one at port 80 and second on 8080
[22:44] <bunni1987> tj: if you want i can do a check and paste and show you if it will help
[22:44] <TJ-> pit_: I'd just do "dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY" if I've got a spare disk large enough
[22:44] <casualuser> still no any dpkg gurus here?..
[22:46] <pit_> TJ-: ok, ill make a partion and do that. since there are files on my 1tb thaks for you advice and if you have any resources that may be useful I just joined the forums as pitviper296
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> ghost__  what's a linux saver?
[22:46] <TJ-> pit_: Yeah, if you have the space create a partition large enough then do "dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdYZ"  - same thing really
[22:46] <jrib> casualuser: what's your actual question?
[22:48] <Redleg97> QUESTION: Are there any known issues with Update Manager and false connectivity messages?
[22:48] <jrib> Redleg97: http://bugs.ubuntu.com is the best place to check for known issues (while you wait)
[22:48] <gen0cide_> Anyone know what happens when rsyslog on ubuntu tries to send to a server but can't resolve the DNS name?
[22:49] <Redleg97> Thanks mon ami :)
[22:49] <gen0cide_> I am trying that scenario for testing, but can't seem to find any information in syslog or other logs detailing the connection failure
[22:50] <devslash2> TJ- I checked the MD5 and it's okay.  I burned it to cd on the slowest speed with verification and it's still doing the same thing
[22:50] <wejcz> Hi guys, 12.04 installer (x64, desktop) can't see my partitions,.gparted too
[22:50] <diverdude> How do i change which port a server listens to ssh?
[22:50] <TJ-> devslash: That sounds like there's a hardware issue on the PC. Is it known to work without Ubuntu?
[22:50] <jrib> diverdude: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:51] <devslash2> Yea I had Ubuntu on it a while back
[22:51] <TJ-> diverdude: "Port X" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:51] <pit_> TJ-: thanks for you help, I'll try that in a few and cross my fingers, want to be done so I can dual boot windows and ubuntu 12.04
[22:51] <TJ-> pit_: good luck with it, it's not a nice situ to be in
[22:51] <greg> worst comes to worst you have use virtualisation
[22:52] <pit_> TJ-:  ty , def not , do you use wine to run any windows aps?
[22:52] <greg> i guess dual booting windows/linux is like cheating on your wife
[22:52] <TJ-> pit_:  SketchUp
[22:52] <wejcz> Fdisk recognize all things, it occurred first time, I hadn't got such issue on other versions
[22:52] <pit_> TJ-:  ok I'll look into that thanks man
[22:53] <wejcz> Greg: +1
[22:53] <greg> wejcz + 127 :)
[22:53] <myersg> I need help with libreOffice
[22:53] <TJ-> devslash: the flashing LEDs tells me the CPU is hanging with bad code executed. I can't think how that would easily happen unless there's an architecture mismatch
[22:53] <ghost__> .how can i make a ubuntu saver
[22:54] <yekoms> install it?
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> ghost__, By downloading the disc and installing
[22:54] <wejcz> XD. I see that my issue is pretty common but I can not solve it
[22:54] <myersg> I need to put everything in a MLA Report but I use MC Office at school.
[22:54] <myersg> so I don't know how to
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> Ah saver
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> ghost__, sorry I read server DOH
[22:55] <iNTEl> hey i wanna a little help about the psd
[22:55] <iNTEl> *password
[22:55] <iNTEl> ubuntu asking for my psd for everything
[22:55] <devslash2> TJ- could it be caused by a memory error
[22:55] <iNTEl> i wanna modify it
[22:55] <ghost__> wille-nilee what kind of saver be good
[22:55] <iNTEl> how can i ?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl, Thats how it works you have admin with a password
[22:56] <TJ-> devslash: Yes, bad RAM is a good possibility
[22:56] <devslash2> Shit
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> ghost__, I'm not sure what a saver is.
[22:56] <custom_> ghost__,    are you trying to ask how to do a backup by chance??
[22:56] <greg> nor me :S
[22:56] <greg> i thought you meant server at first
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> ghost__, Do you mean a cloner
[22:57] <iNTEl> wilee-nilee : lol , i need insturctions :D
[22:57] <wejq> ;/
[22:57] <iNTEl> tell me go there and click on
[22:58] <ghost__> no i want to get me saver wilee what is acloner
[22:58] <casualuser> can someone suggest dpkg force arch keys?
[22:58] <faLUCE> hi. I made a custom live-usb (with a usb live creator on a modified ubuntu distro) .  It should contain all the needed files. The bootin process with the live usb hangs at this message: "pwconv: failed to change the mode of /etc/passwd to -0600"  is there a way to skip or to solve it?
[22:58] <wejq> gparted: unused space. fdisk - can see everything. Installer - like gparted. Wut do ?
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl, You just need to detail your problem in the form of a question, for the channel not me.
[22:58] <iNTEl> 	ya i c
[22:59] <TJ-> casualuser: does this help? "dpkg-architecture -l"
[22:59] <iNTEl> i wanna modify my user account so i can log in anything and ubuntu don't ask me for the account password
[22:59] <custom_> ghost__,  to save  what in particular
[23:00] <casualuser> TJ-, i've used sudo dpkg --force-depends --force-architecture --force-overwrite -i ./libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10.2_i386.deb
[23:00] <diverdude> can i telnet a server and change the port on that server which it uses to listen to ssh?
[23:02] <casualuser> TJ-, and sudo dpkg-architecture -l reply 386/686 as 386 headers and kernel installed and used at the time
[23:03] <TJ-> casualuser: What error are you getting? It would be helpful to pastebin it
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl, There are OS that run in root, doing this with ubuntu is problematic, use one that runs this way.
[23:03] <devslash2> TJ- I found the source of the problem corrupt memory modules. The only problem is that now I'm running it with 756mb ram
[23:03] <casualuser> TJ-, it reply libc6:i386 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 cannot be configured because libc6:amd64 is in a different version (2.15-0ubuntu10)
[23:04] <ghost__> no i want to get me saver wilee what is acloner
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> ghost__, what is your definition of a saver?
[23:05] <devslash2> What's the minimum amount of ram that you need to run Ubuntu server?
[23:06] <jrib> devslash2: I have one running now with less than 30mb :x
[23:06] <szal> devslash2: depends on what you want to do w/ it, I guess
[23:06] <devslash2> Ok I mean 12.10
[23:07] <szal> devslash2: -> #ubuntu+1 please
[23:07] <TJ-> casualuser: Well, the explanation is correct. You've got multi-libs installed and need to match versions. Why not install the matching version? "libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10_i386.deb"
[23:07] <devslash2> Small media server. Was gonna install x on it but. Now I don't think I can
[23:07] <devslash2> File media server
[23:07] <TJ-> devslash2: for server, I've had a basic install on 128MB of RAM
[23:07] <jlen> cs
[23:08] <Thrae> Hi, I'm trying to do a "Hello World" system call following the same steps and getting the same error as this guy -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=933351
[23:08] <devslash2> The installer is sluggish with 756mb
[23:08] <ghost__> wilee- nilee saver give savices like run websites mail fails
[23:08] <TJ-> devslash2: That's including some quite heavy apache2
[23:09] <TJ-> devslash2: are you using the liveISO or the server install itself?
[23:09] <devslash2> Server install disc
[23:09] <Thrae> It seems the kernel complier isn't linking in helloworld.o for some reason
[23:10] <TJ-> devslash2: OK, then it won't be RAM causing slowness, it'll just be it grinding away from the USB ... maybe the USB is a 1.1 port running at 11MBps
[23:10] <devslash2> I'm installing it from cd. I burned it to cd
[23:10] <szal> TJ-: USB 1.1 @ 11 MB/s? you gotta be kidding.. if you get that to 1 MB/s you're lucky..
[23:11] <TJ-> devslash2: ahhh OK.  It can be slow from CD.
[23:11] <szal> TJ-, devslash2: other than that.. please take discussion of Quantal stuff to #ubuntu+1
[23:11] <TJ-> szal: sorry, too much shifting! mbs not Mbs
[23:12] <devslash2> Yea I should have started it from the flash drive but I wanted to eliminate any possible factors
[23:12] <devslash2> My problem has nothing to do with the version of Ubuntu that I'm trying to install
[23:19] <casualuser> TJ-, thx for assiting )
[23:19] <casualuser> it seems i've fixed it
[23:21] <budtaz> hello to alll.....anyone know about ubuntu Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS  for gimp 2.6 with HDR (High Dynamic Range) with tone mapping....  i did check in gimp registry plugin .. and couldnt find where ??
[23:22] <ghost__> wilee- nilee saver give savices like run websites mail fails
[23:24] <bunni1987> hi i am trying to instal nessus and i cant get it to install can anyone tell me how to install it on ubuntu 12.04
[23:25] <skott> o/
[23:28] <jgautier> anyone here have experience with lirc? im trying to get IR transmitting working with the audio port
[23:59] <Treaver> Trying to resize partition when installing ubuntu, can someone tell me why it's taking forever. It's like frozen.