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Gosyhm02:22
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Dice-Manhi people03:03
IboShi03:03
IboSi have a problem with conky on lubuntu03:03
IboSit doesn't launch03:03
IboSit doesn't show anything03:03
IboSi launch conky03:04
IboSit says conky:desktop window (number) is subwindows of root window (number)03:04
kanliotsince lubuntu doesn't use compositing, you need a special conky config03:29
cristian_cHi08:43
cristian_cI'm looking for the lubuntu developers mailing list08:43
cristian_cbut I don't find it :(08:43
JohnDoe_71Ruslaunchpad ubuntu team is not they?08:55
JohnDoe_71Russorry lubuntu08:55
cristian_cJohnDoe_71Rus, I was told to write to their mailing list :)08:59
cristian_cJohnDoe_71Rus, but I don't know what mailing list the launchpad lubuntu team uses09:19
Gosyhowdy y'all12:10
KJDHSHello, can i get some help here ? :) i accidentally deleted my desktop folder12:21
kanliotHow did you delete it12:23
KJDHSin my home user foler12:23
KJDHSfolder*12:23
kanliotwas it file manager12:23
KJDHSno, just "Desktop"12:24
kanliotwas it moved to trashcan12:24
KJDHSand now everything on the actual desktop appears in my user folder12:24
kanliotin pcmanfm?12:24
KJDHSyes but i emptied the trashcan12:25
kanliotis your problem recreating a "Desktop" folder12:25
KJDHSthe file manager is working12:25
kanliotor something with pcmanfm12:25
KJDHSyes, exactly12:25
KJDHSrecreating the "desktop" folder is the problem12:25
kanliotjust create a "Desktop" folder in your home folder12:25
kanliotmind the capital letter12:26
KJDHSit doesn't work properly, it appears on the desktop aswel, and everything i create on the desktop appears along side with it12:26
KJDHSon the user folder12:26
kanliotare you sure you created the folder correctly?12:27
kanliotlogouty and login to restart pcmanfm12:27
kanliotor just restart it if you know how12:27
KJDHSpcmanfm the file manager is working great12:28
kanliotyou need to restart the program that shows files on the desktop. no?12:29
KJDHSno, the problem is that...now if i create a shortcut on my desktop, it appears the shortcut on my user folder instead in the "desktop" folder12:29
kanlioti need you to restart the pcmanfm desktop12:30
KJDHSand if i create in my user folder, a folder named "Desktop" then it appears that too on my actual Desktop12:30
kanliot^12:30
KJDHShow do i restart pcmanfm desktop ? :)12:31
kanliotlogout is easy12:31
KJDHSi did that already, it did not work12:31
kanliothold on i will delete my dekstop folder12:33
KJDHSok..12:34
kanliotdoes it give you a "specified directory is invalid" error?12:35
KJDHSno12:35
KJDHSmy user folder now is acting just like the desktop folder which i deleted12:35
KJDHSi had "specified directory is invalid" errors about the shortcuts i had on desktop, since they were deleted12:40
Zephyrus1test12:41
kanliotplease edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs12:43
kanliotthe first XDG_ line12:43
kanliotis that too technical?12:44
kanliotbrb12:44
KJDHSok12:44
KJDHSbrb12:58
KJDHSi am back, kanliot...the problem is fixed, if you want to know how let me know13:21
kanliothhow13:22
KJDHSopen up a lxterminal13:23
KJDHSwrite in it gedit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs13:24
KJDHSmodifiy the first line into this13:25
KJDHSXDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop"13:25
KJDHSjust write at the end after the slash Desktop13:25
KJDHSsave it13:25
KJDHSand then create a desktop folder in your user folder, it will appear aswel for the moment on your desktop13:25
KJDHSrestart your pc13:25
KJDHSand yuou are done, it will disappear from your desktop13:26
KJDHSyou*13:26
kanliotk13:26
kanlioti put some instructions on the pcmanfm wiki page13:27
KJDHSwell...i'm glad that it's alright now..13:30
KJDHSthanks for the help13:30
kanliotyou're welcome13:30
KJDHSbye kanliot13:32
bennypr0fanehello, I have dialogs popping up out of proportion, too large so the buttons are off the screen. How can I make these smaller?13:40
bennypr0fanethere is one in Opera browser for activating Opera Link. the dialog for this has its buttons ("next, "cancel") at the bottom, but i can't see them13:42
kanliotyou can drag with window with alt+mouse button13:43
bennypr0faneha, cool!13:44
Zephyrus1Hello13:44
Zephyrus1I've got a question13:44
kanliothi13:44
kanlioti knew that13:45
bennypr0fanehi Zephyrus1, go ahead13:45
Zephyrus1:D13:45
Zephyrus1i reinstalled lubuntu yesterday13:45
Zephyrus1and now instead of the grub loader13:45
bennypr0fanemaybe I can resize windows with a key combo?13:45
Zephyrus1i always get a page where i can choose from what to boot13:45
Zephyrus1and one of them is 'ubuntu' and the others hdd usb etc13:46
Zephyrus1and i cant boot from there13:46
Zephyrus1i have to choose hdd first13:46
Zephyrus1which doesn't work13:46
Zephyrus1and then esc13:46
Zephyrus1and then it boots13:46
kanliotgrub 1.99?13:46
Zephyrus1im not sure13:47
kanliotfixing grub can be easy13:47
kanliotbut it's hard to understand13:48
kanliotwell hard for me anyhow13:48
Zephyrus1how can i make a screen shot13:48
bennypr0fanegrub doesn't usually give you the choice of a boot MEDIUM13:48
Zephyrus1i know13:48
Zephyrus1its not the grub screen13:48
Zephyrus1it looks like bios13:48
Zephyrus1but its not biossettings13:48
bennypr0faneZephyrus1 id on't think you can make a screenshot before booting13:48
bennypr0faneyou'd have to take a photo13:48
Zephyrus1yes i mean of the current screen13:49
kanliotuse a camera13:49
Zephyrus1ill just copypaste13:49
Zephyrus1sudo grub-install /dev/sda13:49
Zephyrus1[sudo] password for user:13:49
Zephyrus1BootCurrent: 001013:49
Zephyrus1Timeout: 0 seconds13:49
Zephyrus1BootOrder: 000D,000B,0007,0008,0009,000A,000E,000C,000613:49
bennypr0faneuse pastebin.com13:49
Zephyrus1there i went13:50
bennypr0fanekanliot you know about key combos and how to set them?13:50
Zephyrus1sry i was thrown out because of spam ^^13:50
bennypr0faneZeph use pastebin.com13:50
Zephyrus1k13:50
bennypr0fanespammer!13:50
bennypr0fane:-P13:51
bennypr0fanekidding13:51
kanliotbennypr0fane, i put it on the wiki13:51
Zephyrus1http://pastebin.com/ATwQg7TG13:51
kanliotif you could test the wiki for me i'd be thankful13:51
Zephyrus1so you can see it lists drives and cd etc13:52
kanliotor i can just tell you13:52
kanliotup to you13:52
Zephyrus1and then at the bottom: ubuntu13:52
Zephyrus1and ill guess ill quickly make a photo from the boot screen13:52
Zephyrus1so ll be gone for another few minutes13:52
bennypr0fanethe lubuntu wiki? just give me a link13:52
kanliotshould be on google search13:53
kanlioti'm not playing with you, i want to see if you can find it13:53
kanliotlike i said i'll give you the info13:53
kanliotif you can find it, then the wiki is ok...13:53
bennypr0faneok13:53
bennypr0faneI'll try "lubuntu key combos"13:54
kanliotnaa search for lubuntu wiki13:54
bennypr0faneof course that gets me to the wiki13:56
bennypr0fanewhy shouldn't it?13:56
bennypr0faneis that the whole test or did you want to check sht else?13:56
bennypr0fane*sth. else13:57
kanliotcan you find the keyboard stuff on the lubuntu wiki?13:57
bennypr0faneit's the 2nd link in Googl and 1st in Duckduckgo13:57
bennypr0fanehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard13:58
kanliotanyhow you have the option of editing the openbox config, doing xbindkeys, or by using obkey13:58
bennypr0faneclicked throug the headlines13:58
kanliotok13:59
bennypr0faneit's cool13:59
bennypr0fanenot every wiki you can actually find a topic that way13:59
bennypr0faneso well done13:59
bennypr0fanei think I did xbindkeys yesterday i found it confusing14:00
bennypr0fanewhats obkey?14:00
kanliotit's a simple utility that let's you bind keys14:00
bennypr0faneah, it's right there in the wiki14:00
Zephyrus1hello again14:01
Zephyrus1so this is odd14:02
bennypr0fanepreferences>keybd inup14:02
bennypr0fane*>keybd input methods?14:02
Zephyrus1I actually have ubuntu as an option in my biossetup14:02
kanliotobkey?14:02
bennypr0fanethat gets me to ibus service14:02
Zephyrus1*bootoption14:02
kanliotsorry i'm newb at grub214:03
kanliot#ubuntu or forums...14:03
bennypr0faneno, obkey not installed, i think14:03
Zephyrus1yeah i 'fixed' it14:03
Zephyrus1http://imgur.com/geWt614:03
kanliotno input methods not what you want14:03
Zephyrus1by moving it under the hd option14:04
kanliot:)14:04
kanliotgood Zephyrus114:04
Zephyrus1so now it just loads grub normally instead14:04
bennypr0faneZeph but what happened to your grub?14:04
bennypr0faneaha14:04
Zephyrus1its not the grub making problems14:04
Zephyrus1i think its due to ubuntu being a device option in my bios14:04
Zephyrus1and when thats choosen as the first boot option14:05
Zephyrus1i get this error14:05
kanlioti don't even know why ubuntuy is there14:05
kanliotdo you have a flash drive inserted?14:05
Zephyrus1http://imgur.com/Y6ayT14:05
Zephyrus1no, not anymore, but i used usb to install lubuntu14:05
bennypr0fanethis is weird14:06
kanlioti thought i knew bios14:06
kanliotbut i evidently do not14:06
bennypr0faneit means that bios must think ubuntu is a medium/device14:06
Zephyrus1and you can't really google efficiently for: 'ubuntu in bios boot devices'14:06
bennypr0faneso the solution is you just don't choose that to boot, but your hdd?14:07
kanliotnope14:07
Zephyrus1yes14:08
Zephyrus1i put it at top14:08
Zephyrus1and it just goes to the grubscreen14:08
bennypr0fanekanliot lxkeymap is not it either, is it? then where is this xbindkeys?14:08
silverarrowusb boot can be a bit fickely14:08
bennypr0fane"fickely"? :-D14:09
bennypr0faneis it cli?14:09
Zephyrus1apparently it has something to do with EFI14:09
silverarrowyeah, biosetting, getting the iso correctly on the flash, ....14:09
kanliottry obkey, then editing openbox by hand14:10
kanliotthen xbindkeys14:10
kanliotin order of difficulty14:10
bennypr0faneaha14:10
bennypr0faneok14:10
kanliotalthough someone will come in here and say xbindkeys is easier14:10
kanlioti know it14:10
Zephyrus1iwell ty anyways, it's working now ;)14:12
bennypr0fanegood14:12
Zephyrus1goodbye14:13
bennypr0faneyou should e-mail Canonical14:13
Zephyrus1me?14:13
bennypr0faneyeah14:13
Zephyrus1Ok14:13
bennypr0fanetell em the UEFI secure boot problem is solved14:13
bennypr0faneyou just let Bios boot right to Ubuntu!14:13
bennypr0fane:-D14:13
Zephyrus1haxx14:14
Zephyrus1:P14:14
Zephyrus1im just ignoring the problem, i know14:14
Zephyrus1^^14:14
bennypr0fanehave a good day!14:14
Zephyrus1you too14:14
bennypr0faneobkey can't find ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml file14:16
bennypr0faneis that supposed to be there? should i create it?14:16
kanliotnope14:17
kanliotit's a file called lubuntu something.xml14:17
kanliotlubuntu-rc.xml14:17
bennypr0faneobkey lets me edit that?14:17
kanlioti donno14:17
bennypr0faneI mean is lubuntu-rc.xml supposed to be there already, or do I need to create it?14:18
kanliotshould be there14:19
kanliotmust be there14:19
bennypr0fanewhere exactly?14:20
kanliot~/.config/openbox14:21
kanliotin that directory14:21
bennypr0fanehttp://pastebin.com/YKLaTqmv14:21
bennypr0faneI'm sortry, I don't know what the ~ means in front of the /14:23
kanliotit means home dir14:24
kanliotyou see it in your bash prompt14:25
kanliotactually it works with obkey ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml14:27
bennypr0faneyay!14:27
kanlioti'm making wiki edits as you make progress :)14:29
kanliotabout 4 edits so far14:29
bennypr0fanecool14:30
kanliotyup14:31
bennypr0fane i *dded * keybind now14:32
bennypr0faneresult * key (first letter of *lph*bet) resizes the *ctive window!14:33
bennypr0fanetrying to undo this now...14:33
bennypr0faneok got rid of that14:35
bennypr0faneapparently if you press "add new sibling keybind", its' assigned the a-key by default, and takes effect if you don't change it14:36
bennypr0faneI want to assign "resize active window" to Shift+Pagedown14:37
kanliotshould be ok14:39
kanliotthere's a resize function14:39
bennypr0fanenot working14:39
bennypr0faneit does nothing14:39
kanliotyou probably didn't do openbox --reconfigure14:39
kanliotafter saving14:39
bennypr0fanedid not14:39
bennypr0fanewhere is that14:39
bennypr0faneoh in the terminal14:40
kanliotyup14:41
kanliotman openbox14:41
bennypr0fanestill nothing14:41
bennypr0fanesave, close obkey, openbox --reconfigure, no effect14:42
bennypr0fanewhat's with the "edge" setting in top right? what's it refer to?14:43
kanliotyeah was looking at that14:43
bennypr0fane*top right of obkey14:43
kanliotsnack time14:44
bennypr0faneI think the obkey guys should add the info about doing openbox --reconfigure afterwards14:44
bennypr0faneyeah, good call14:44
kanliotyeah well i didn't see any obkey docs at all14:45
kanliotcan't complain if they don't exist14:45
kanliothttp://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#Resize15:01
kanliotopenbox actually has fine dox15:02
cowmixI asked this last night so sorry for the repeat but does anyone know how to prevent Lubuntu desktop from loading on boot up?16:59
bioterrorand I told to use "text" on grubs kernel line17:00
bioterrorand I think so did holstein too17:00
cowmixbioterror: Yeah, i wish that worked.. I'll figure it out and post back17:00
bioterrorwhy it would not work?17:01
bioterrorafter the "ro" you add "text" without ""17:01
bioterrorprobably there's quiet too17:01
cowmixfor some odd reason no matter what I do, it boots into X.17:02
cowmixI'm going to reinstall and start fresh17:02
bioterrorit will not boot into X if you use this "text"17:02
bioterroryou can try it first from grub17:04
___Dice-Man___kanliot: ping ?17:18
IboSkanliot: hey18:08
IboSkanliot: i've read your message can be more precise about this special config of conky in lubuntu ?18:09
pmatulisi don't get thumbnails showing up in the file manager (pcmanfm) for .MOV files.  anybody have a clue?  using 12.10 if it matters20:13
wxlpmatulis: know where i can find one?20:13
pmatuliswxl: find one what?20:14
wxla .mov20:14
pmatuliswxl: sure, 'touch test.mov', no?20:14
wxlnot sure that will work20:14
wxlmight read headers, metadata, etc. to determine thumbnails20:14
pmatulisha, prolly.  dunno then.  maybe google and d/l a small one20:15
pmatulislet me check20:15
wxlpmatulis: and when you say thumbnails you mean that it appears as a video file or thumbnails meaning it appears as a screenshot?20:17
wxl(to be clear)20:17
bioterrorprobably becouse of filesize20:19
bioterrorgrow the thumbnail filesize for local files20:19
wxlcuz i do see a video-specific thumbnail20:19
wxls/thumbnail/icon/20:19
pmatulisbioterror: i have a 600 kB file but it does not show20:20
wxlpmatulis: you still haven't answered my question20:20
pibarnashave you checked tumbler?20:21
pmatuliswxl: getting there.  it shows a generic icon (roll of video film)20:21
wxlpmatulis: and that's not what you want?20:21
pmatuliswxl: but it plays (in vlc)20:21
wxlit appears on my end that's all you get :)20:21
pmatuliswxl: well in straight ubuntu i got a thumbnail.  first frame?20:22
wxllubuntu != ubuntu20:22
wxlpcmanfm != nautilus20:22
wxlneed i go on?20:22
pmatuliswxl: really?  wow.  lubuntu is not ubuntu?20:22
pmatuliswxl: i'd rather have a more technical reason20:22
pmatuliswxl: if you would oblige20:23
pmatuliswxl: and it's logical.  how does one choose what video to play?20:23
wxlwell, #1 you need to realize that what you want to have or what you think should be isn't necessarily what is20:24
wxlfor example, many people think lubuntu's choice of mail client is atrocious20:24
pmatuliswxl: yeah i zap that thing pretty quick20:25
wxli don't know that video thumbnailing is supported to be frank20:28
pmatulisif not having a directory full of identical icons and nonsensical filenames is considered a feature request then if we had a technical reason maybe it can be brought in eventually20:28
pmatuliswxl: but thanks for confirming that there is nothing borked on my end20:29
wxlyeps20:29
wxlthere's little things missing here and there20:30
wxla bug report will go a long way in ensuring that we get them all taken care of20:30
pmatuliswxl: will submit20:30
wxlfile it against pcmanfm if not obvious20:30
wxli'll confirm it20:30
pmatulisk20:30
Unit193wxl: Main tracker is on SF.net.20:31
wxltrue enough, i'll take care of sticking upstream on there, Unit19320:31
wxlor erp20:31
wxlgood point, yeah both would be good…20:32
pmatuliswxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/106408921:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1064089 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "Thumbnails for .MOV files are not available" [Wishlist,New]21:49
wxlpmatulis: thx it'll pop up in my inbox anywho ;)21:54
pmatuliswxl: y/w bro21:55
pmatuliswow, i hate the fact that you can open 2 firefox windows but they both close when you shut one down23:17
redderhspmatulis: that doesn't happen to me..23:21
pmatulisredderhs: what release?23:21
redderhs15.01: mozilla firefox for ubuntu canoncial - 1.023:22
pmatulisredderhs: i mean lubuntu release23:22
redderhs12.0423:22
redderhsx6423:22
pmatulisredderhs: k, 12.10 here.  i wonder if i should open a bug23:23
pmatulisit's definitly a bad thing23:23
redderhsuse 12.04 its the long term support..23:24
pmatulisso?23:24
redderhsfor the most part the build is very stable and i have very little to complain about23:24
pmatulislts on the destkop is retarted IMO23:24
pmatulisin the enterprise it makes sense23:25
redderhsthink of it as stable and svn23:26
jude0Any idea why running xinit with sudo blows up user's home directory requiring re-chmod/grp ing to fix? Has anyone else tried sudo xinit to a remote x server and had issues? I was connecting to a raspberry pi originally but it also seemed not to work to other linux systems. Bug?23:26
pmatulisredderhs: what is svn again?23:26
jude0subversion23:26
pmatulisredderhs: so how does that relate to LTS again?23:27
redderhssubversion23:28
redderhsthats the way i see it23:28
redderhslts is stable usually23:28
jude0@pmatulis if you are talking to me, i have not had issues with xinit on other debians23:28
pmatulisredderhs: how does subversion releate to an LTS release?23:28
redderhsits my own personal opinion.23:29
pmatulisredderhs: alrigthy23:31

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