[01:04] <silverarrow> is anyone booted in quantal now?
[01:07] <Daekdroom> I am.
[01:09] <silverarrow> Daekdroom: do you use minitube?
[01:10] <silverarrow> I have filed a bug on minitube, on powerpc iso, and  wonder if it works any bettery on i386 or 64bit
[01:11] <silverarrow> it`s a clever app which lets you stream music on youtube seamlessly one after the other
[01:11] <silverarrow> and great non flash alternative for powerpc
[01:12] <silverarrow> if anyone have the time to check minitube it would be helpful
[01:20] <bjsnider> silverarrow, you should be given some sort of award for keeping the flame of ppc burning
[01:20] <bjsnider> long after apple's official position became "what's powerpc"?
[01:24] <silverarrow> ljol
[01:25] <silverarrow> yeah, I am stubbern with the ppc
[01:25] <silverarrow> not sure everybody likes it
[01:26] <silverarrow> bjsnider: the hard core is elsewhere though, on forums like macrumors, and a lot of G5s are still in use as severs and what not
[01:27] <silverarrow> bjsnider: however, I like minitube on regular pc too, and the packages affected on ppc, are usually not powerpc architecture specific
[01:28] <silverarrow> the troubles I mean
[01:51] <silverarrow> it`s fast and easy installing minitube
[01:51] <silverarrow> small app
[02:14] <silverarrow> apparently I made a bugreport that turned out to be private
[02:14] <Daekdroom> That's default.
[02:14] <Daekdroom> Someone with clearance will check it for personal information and then set it public.
[02:15] <silverarrow> not sure why, there is hardly any secret info on this computer, well unless passwords where revealed
[02:15] <Daekdroom> Yes, it's possible passwords are revealed.
[02:15] <silverarrow> thanks
[02:15] <Daekdroom> But we're talking about personal information like which videos you watched.
[02:15] <silverarrow> which would be a bit annoying
[02:16] <silverarrow> oh, he listens too razorlight
[02:16] <silverarrow> lol
[02:16] <silverarrow> yeah, loads of stuff can appear perhaps
[02:17] <silverarrow> and the web is perhaps too hopen for any info to be there
[02:17] <silverarrow> open*
[02:20] <silverarrow> nothing much really, just a random test video
[02:20] <silverarrow> picked up on the first page I hit upon youtube
[02:51] <treaver> Hello, today you guys will have the time of your life! Expect me to have problems and need your help :p
[02:53] <treaver> Ehh guys
[02:54] <treaver> When I try to burn 12.10 to a disk using Brazero or whatever. The burn button is like disabled
[03:04] <Stanley00> treaver: I recomment using USB, and did you use a CD or DVD disk?
[03:32] <Treaver> How do I install Nivida drivers in Ubuntu 12.10
[03:33] <Stanley00> Treaver: In the software source app :D
[03:33] <Treaver> Ok and if something goes wrong with my graphics on startup like "Input signal out of reach change settings to 1600x900" then how do I revert back
[03:35] <Stanley00> Treaver: well, I don't know either, I'm just a normal desktop user ;)
[03:35] <Stanley00> Treaver: did you search that error on the web?
[03:35] <Treaver> I did no help what soever
[03:39] <Stanley00> Trewas: look like some misconfig in Xorg.conf. Or in Display setting.
[03:40] <bjsnider> he left
[03:42] <Stanley00> oops... didn't notice that, my client is in *quiet* mode :)
[03:50] <Treaver> Hello I need help
[03:51] <Treaver> Lol, nothing is opening in 12.10
[03:51] <Treaver> I installed it perfectly
[03:51] <Treaver> (Surprisingly)
[03:51] <Treaver> But like I try to open System Settings and nothing opens. I try to go to User Accounts and nothing opens.
[03:52] <Stanley00> Treaver: try running them from terminal and/or looking at /var/log for more infos
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> Treaver, Try a unity reset with alt-f2 then unity --reset  if this is the unity ubuntu desktop
[03:53] <Stanley00> Treaver: and, did you upgrade after install?
[03:54] <Stanley00> wilee-nilee: unity dosen't have --reset option anymore, does it?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Stanley00, Not sure to be honest, I had not seen it removed but you may be correct. ;)]
[03:55] <bjsnider> no --reset option
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> ah good to know
[04:09] <Treaver> Hello guys I neeed your help badly. NDISwrapper on 12.10 isn't working and I absolutely need it
[05:20] <Treaver> Hello everyone, I got everything working on Ubuntu 12.10 except the Dash. It's like maximized and I can't change it to the regular left side of screen
[05:22] <Treaver> Ok wait nvm
[05:22] <Treaver> Why won't Gnome 3 work?
[05:22] <blob4000> hey there. this is probably common, but: has anyone managed to get 12.10 to run smoothly within Virtualbox? the virtualbox video driver seems not to load.. or is running very slowly. also once logged in, the desktop of Unity no longer expands to my monitor's full resolution when fullscreened
[05:23] <Treaver> I've gotten VirtualBox to run smoothly in 12.10(:
[05:23] <blob4000> oh yeah? on a windows 7 host by chance?
[05:23] <Treaver> Ubuntu 12.10 :)
[05:23] <blob4000> oh ok
[05:23] <blob4000> running 12.10 as guest smoothly?
[05:24] <Treaver> Can you download TeamViewer? I can probably help you with that.
[05:25] <Treaver> http://www.teamviewer.com/ simply run it and /msg me the ID and Password.
[05:25] <Treaver> Then I can remotely connect and fix the problem, if you want.
[05:26] <blob4000> well what would you fix?
[05:30] <Treaver> Hey guys I just installed gnome-shell and restarted computer then my ndiswrapper stopped working and wireless internet no longer works
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> Treaver, Did you set the wireless as all users in the install desktop?
[05:35] <Treaver> No? I never even open the other users
[05:35] <Treaver> I had installed NDISwrapper and Wine from ethernet (In the other room) and got the wireless working
[05:35] <Treaver> Then brought it in here (This room) and installed gnome-shell now it doesn't work
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Treaver, If you want it to work in another desktop you have to set it that way.
[05:36] <Treaver> I'm back in Ubuntu Unity and it still isn't working
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> not sure there
[05:36] <Treaver> I uninstalled Gnome and it's not working
[06:59] <Treaver> Could someone help me
[07:00] <Treaver> The Dash in 12.10 Beta 2 Isn't working correctly. It's lagging bad! How do I fix this
[07:03] <Stanley00> Treaver: did you install video driver?
[07:04] <Treaver> Yes I did
[07:04] <Treaver> Graphics driver
[07:04] <Stanley00> Treaver: and what's your computer spec?
[07:04] <Treaver> I have 750GB HDD, 6GB RAM
[07:05] <Stanley00> and CPU? graphic card?
[07:05] <Treaver> Is there a easy way I can get that information from the terminal?
[07:06] <Stanley00> "lspci | grep -i Video" for the graphic card
[07:06] <Treaver> Nothign happened
[07:06] <Stanley00> `oops, grep VGA :D
[07:07] <Treaver> Nothign happened
[07:07] <Stanley00> and "grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo" for the CPU
[07:08] <Treaver> Processor AMD Athlom(tm) II X2 235e Processor x 2
[07:08] <Treaver> The VGA thing didn't work
[07:09] <Stanley00> look like ubuntu didn't see your vga driver, maybe that causes the lagging
[07:09] <Treaver> Well I typed it and it's just frozen
[07:09] <Treaver> Could you remote desktop for me and fix it
[07:10] <Stanley00> Treaver: I don't think I can do that, I'm just a normal desktop user :(
[07:10] <Treaver> I'll let you(: Download teamviewer plz
[07:11] <Treaver> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb
[07:11] <Stanley00> Treaver: OK, let me try, please wait
[07:12] <Stanley00> Treaver: OK, you can send me your ID, and password now
[07:12] <Treaver> It's installing :p Everything is slow atm :p
[07:13] <Stanley00> OK,
[07:14] <Treaver> Thanks for helping (: If you can get it working I'll be happy to send you a little bit of money
[07:14] <Treaver> $10 if you want
[07:14] <Stanley00> Treaver: no, I don't need that :D
[07:15] <Treaver> It just finished the download part of install
[07:15] <Stanley00> Treaver: and I'm not sure if I can make it works :D
[07:15] <Stanley00> Treaver: please send private message to me
[07:16] <Treaver> :) Do your best cause I am a programmer. I have no clue about Graphics cards
[07:16] <Treaver> Ok
[08:43] <Treaver> Mouse and keyboard stop working randomly how do I fix this?
[08:48] <Stanley00> Treaver: hi, I'm back
[08:48] <Treaver> Mouse and Keyboard stop working randomly
[08:49] <Stanley00> Treaver: it stops after you install graphic driver, right?
[08:50] <Treaver> Mine stops randomly
[08:50] <Treaver> Like I don't do anything but it stops
[08:51] <Stanley00> hmm, it's hard to locate the reason in this case
[08:55] <Stanley00> Treaver: after some searching, it's look like you have some misconfig xorg server :9
[08:55] <Stanley00> :(
[08:56] <Stanley00> Treaver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKeyboardDetection and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingMouseDetection may provide more info
[11:40] <xrfang> hi, how can I remove the on screen keyboard from the login screen of 12.10?
[11:43] <philinux> xrfang: i think the package is onboard
[11:46] <xrfang> thanks philinux
[11:47] <philinux> xrfang: however i just checked in dconf editor and its off by default
[11:47] <xrfang> philinux, it's by default ON here.  I did an upgrade from 12.04 yesterday
[11:48] <xrfang> also, there seems a problem in software center (however I don't know if it is ok in older version). The behavior is that I cannot find the package by searching "myunity" (because it is not compatible with 12.10) but I can remove it by apt-get remove myunity
[11:49] <philinux> xrfang: myunity has been removed till it's fixed
[11:49] <philinux> so yes u can remove the package that doesnt work
[11:50] <philinux> check apt-cache policy myunity from time to time
[11:50] <xrfang> philinux, my question is that as I have installed it, it should appear in search result? or the search does not check what's INSTALLED at all, (e.g. I install a package from 3rd party)?
[11:51] <philinux> xrfang: not sure on that.
[11:52] <philinux> I dont use SC. I use synaptic or terminal
[11:52] <philinux> SC is slow to load
[11:55] <xrfang> right
[11:57] <philinux> xrfang: I reckon when myunity is back in the repos it will show up in SC too
[11:58] <xrfang> if I feel good with default settings, I may not install it anyway ;-)
[12:05] <philinux> xrfang: there is also gnome-tweak-tool
[12:05] <philinux> and 3rd party app ubuntu-tweak
[12:06] <xrfang> yes, however, the reason I use myunity is to tweak fonts...
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:34] <nocturn_> Hi guys
[13:34] <nocturn_> anyone know if IRC will return to Empathy in 12.10?  Is completely invisible in the beta interface
[13:35] <Daekdroom> nocturn_, there's a package called account-plugin-irc you have to install.
[13:36] <nocturn_> Daekdroom, thanks, installing it now
[13:36] <toumbo> Thanks too nocturn_
[13:44] <whitman> Can someone test whether Ctrl+Alt+L will lock their workstation or Ctrl+Alt+Del to logout?  Has no effect for me in 12.10 (fully updated as of 5 mins ago)
[13:45] <Daekdroom> whitman, Crtl+Alt+L works ok for locking.
[13:45] <whitman> Hmm
[13:45] <Daekdroom> Can't test Crtl+Alt+Del right nw.
[13:45] <whitman> Also the mouse accel/sensitivity settings don't seem to have an effect.
[13:55] <PeterME> Hi, I'm having some trouble getting SDL to work. I have some files and a makefile that should work just fine but when I run make from the terminal I only get
[13:55] <PeterME> /tmp/ccT5c4ca.o: In function `main':
[13:55] <PeterME> main.c:(.text+0x15): undefined reference to `SDL_Init'
[13:55] <PeterME> Same for all SDL_functions..
[14:06] <ritz> hi, where are all the s/w on quantal ? ( specifically majestical gold for purchase  )
[14:07] <ritz> all I could see are magazines
[14:07] <silverarrow> what do you mean?
[14:08] <ritz> silverarrow, all I can see is compositmate, and not other paid apps
[14:09] <ritz> like https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/amnesia/
[14:09] <ritz> nm
[14:09] <ritz> I see these are listed for 12.04
[14:09] <ritz> I am on 12.10
[14:09] <ritz> any way to force these apps to be listed ?
[14:13] <silverarrow> not sure there is anything brute force can do in this case
[14:14] <silverarrow> however, you might build packages if you have source
[14:14] <silverarrow> precise packages on quantal, it often works
[14:15] <silverarrow> they will be added I suppose, sooner or later
[14:15] <umutuygar> hi guys. me menu is missing on top panel in 12.10. Do you know how to get it back?
[14:15] <silverarrow> hmm, sudo restart something
[14:19] <silverarrow> umutuygar: do you have release upgrade or fresh install?
[14:20] <umutuygar> silverarrow, release upgrade
[14:20] <silverarrow> could this be relevant ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/136812/missing-panel-icons-at-top-right
[14:22] <silverarrow> http://askubuntu.com/questions/128676/launcher-and-window-menu-bar-missing-after-12-04-upgrade
[14:26] <silverarrow> umutuygar: I don`t think there are much quantal  faq yet
[14:27] <umutuygar> silverarrow, I looked thorough the link you gave, indicator-applet-complete is already installed, tried to install indicator-applet-session but didn't help
[14:33] <silverarrow> these things can happen on upgrades, and it should be fairly easy to fix
[14:36] <silverarrow> umutuygar: the second link there might work, and reboot
[14:59] <Guest87183> hey guys i'm trying to figure out how to keep the new web apps open in the new ubuntu 12.10 notification window, without exit the tabs. http://askubuntu.com/questions/197819/how-to-keep-web-apps-running-in-messaging-menu
[15:11] <gfdfgfr> i need hidden amazon junkware removed, please help
[15:13] <gfdfgfr> also ubuntu music store cannot be uninstalled
[15:14] <gfdfgfr> anyone?
[15:14] <dr_willis> check askubuntu.com perhaps
[15:15] <gfdfgfr> what?
[15:16] <dr_willis> its a question and answer site.
[15:17] <silverarrow> loads of talk on that one gfdfgfr
[15:17] <gfdfgfr> why it protected from deletion?
[15:17] <gfdfgfr> *it's
[15:17] <bazhang> !adlens | gfdfgfr
[15:18] <dr_willis> webupd8 and omgubuntu also have covered it i belive..
[15:18] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, follow the command above
[15:18] <gfdfgfr> how can I remove this package, it is hidden and protected in software center
[15:18] <bazhang> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[15:19] <gfdfgfr> why it is done by a maintenance command?
[15:19] <silverarrow> force remove
[15:19] <dr_willis> never seen somthing "protected"
[15:19] <bazhang> no need to force
[15:19] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, it's not protected. just remove it and move on
[15:20] <gfdfgfr> when I try to remove items with canonical branding via software centre, delte button does nothing
[15:20] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, I just gave you the command
[15:22] <gfdfgfr> bazhang, I typed that in run a program window but nothing happened
[15:22] <dr_willis> wonder if the factoid should include the exact apt command.
[15:22] <dr_willis> use a terminal gfdfgfr
[15:22] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, do it in terminal
[15:23] <dr_willis> it asks for a password.
[15:24] <gfdfgfr> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:24] <gfdfgfr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:25] <dr_willis> only one package manager tool can run at a time. close the software center
[15:27] <gfdfgfr> ok but I still have amazon icon on the toolbar
[15:28] <dr_willis> toolbar?
[15:28] <gfdfgfr> ubuntu toolbar
[15:28] <dr_willis> you mean the left  side launcher panel?
[15:28] <gfdfgfr> yes. left side
[15:29] <dr_willis> right cluck on it?
[15:29] <bazhang> so remove it
[15:29] <dr_willis> cluck  ;-)
[15:29] <gfdfgfr> "unlock fro..."?
[15:29] <bazhang> keep in launcher  <------ uncheck
[15:30] <dr_willis> thats a webapp. not related to the shooping lens.
[15:31] <gfdfgfr> why no synaptic anymore? the software center cannot remove several programs together
[15:31] <bazhang> !info synaptic
[15:31] <dr_willis> install synaptic if youwant it....
[15:31] <bazhang> install it then
[15:32] <dr_willis> just dont use  aptitude.
[15:32] <bazhang> he'd need to install that iirc
[15:33] <gfdfgfr> synaptic worked for me always
[15:33] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, so did you install it yet?
[15:33] <dr_willis> so.. install it if you want it...
[15:33] <gfdfgfr> that new thing everything does is hanging and show crash windows
[15:34] <gfdfgfr> i need to wait for software center to unhang himself and close
[15:38] <gfdfgfr>  Please rebuild the package being set up with a version of debhelper fixing #477751. <-- ???
[15:41] <bazhang> !find alacarte
[15:42] <gfdfgfr> finally that broken pos gone
[16:16] <gfdfgfr> my soundcard is missing, how to trouvleshhot it?
[16:16] <bazhang> what does lspci show
[16:17] <bazhang> !paste| gfdfgfr
[16:17] <gfdfgfr> 01:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
[16:33] <gfdfgfr> bah enough of thisdisaste for today
[19:07] <Almindor> since I updated to 12.10 beta2 I can't login one of the users (the other/admin one works fine): http://pastebin.com/j7bzm7vy
[19:07] <Almindor> it seems there's a PAM error
[19:07] <Almindor> I tried changing password, recreating the user etc.
[19:07] <Almindor> nothing works
[19:08] <Almindor> note: this user had ubuntu 2d set on 12.04 before the update but I doubt it's causing this problem
[19:08] <Almindor> I can create a new user with different username and that works
[19:08] <Almindor> so it's something specific to this user, but not inside the home dir
[19:10] <Almindor> any ideas? I can't find out where PAM has config files and/or how to reset it somehow
[19:11] <bjsnider> i'd say that's impossible
[19:11] <bjsnider> gotta be the home dir
[19:12] <trism> Almindor: anything in /var/log/auth.log ? do you see a message prompted on the greeter?
[19:12] <bjsnider> obvious workaround if the home dir isn't the issue is create a new user, and change the home dir ownership to match
[19:13] <Almindor> trism, no errors message, it just "resets" to the login again (screen blank and then login again)
[19:13] <bjsnider> Almindor, what if you change sessions?
[19:14] <bjsnider> in other words use regular unity
[19:15] <Almindor> auth.log: http://pastebin.com/HZvkzg8L
[19:15] <Almindor> bjsnider, how do I switch that? the button is not there anymore
[19:16] <bjsnider> there's a gear icon right?
[19:16] <Almindor> nope
[19:16] <trism> the button won't be there if you only have one xsession
[19:16] <trism> do you have autologin enabled for that user?
[19:16] <Almindor> no that's the thing
[19:16] <trism> what does /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf look like?
[19:17] <Almindor> http://pastebin.com/hxjzyPRK
[19:17] <Almindor> bjsnider, it can't be home, I moved it, deleted the user, recreated with old name and I still can't login
[19:18] <trism> drop the autologin-user= line and restart lightdm, maybe some bug in lightdm we are running into here
[19:19] <Almindor> let me try
[19:23] <RiXtEr> I hit that bug the other day
[19:23] <RiXtEr> I can give him a fix when he comes back.
[19:23] <trism> RiXtEr: what was the issue out of curiosity?
[19:23] <RiXtEr> it was related to unity2d being set before the upgrade
[19:24] <RiXtEr> but I had to create a false unity2d session
[19:24] <RiXtEr> and tell it unity2d wasn't there
[19:24] <RiXtEr> then I got the desktop selection icon back
[19:24] <RiXtEr> its pretty easy to fix
[19:24] <Almindor> nope no go
[19:24] <RiXtEr> Almindor, I can help you on this
[19:24] <Almindor> I even tried setting it to login without password, same thing
[19:25] <Almindor> RiXtEr, I'm all ears ;)
[19:25] <RiXtEr> one sec it will take a sec to write all of this out
[19:25] <Almindor> k
[19:26] <bjsnider> RiXtEr, did you submit a bug about this including the fix and whatnot?
[19:27] <trism> bug 1059137 thought this was already fixed, apparently not
[19:29] <Almindor> so it is ubuntu2d being "stuck"?
[19:31] <Almindor> I have ubuntu-2d there too I'll change it reboot and come report here if it was it
[19:36] <LateralOctober> has anyone been able to install beta2 with a gtx560?  nouveau crashes, the grub loader screen is torn/distorted so I can't see any of the options to remove splash or use nomodeset, and I can't get x to start after installing the nvidia-common
[19:36] <LateralOctober> or know the keystrokes needed to get into a text-mode install, etc.  Pored over a few bug reports/forum posts last night but didn't see anything that helps
[19:37] <Almindor> yep that was the problem
[19:37] <Almindor> this should defenetly get fixed
[19:40] <bjsnider> LateralOctober, nvidia-common isn't the correct package.
[19:41] <bjsnider> the driver is nvidia-current
[19:41] <RiXtEr> first, ctrl-alt-f1 and do a cd /usr/share/xsessions
[19:41] <LateralOctober> bjsnider - yeah, I know it's not - it's just what my fingers typed and I wasn't in front of the rig to confirm it :)
[19:41] <RiXtEr> then cp ubuntu.desktop ubuntu2d.desktop
[19:41] <RiXtEr> then nano -w ubuntu2d.desktop and change the following
[19:41] <RiXtEr> Name=Ubuntu to Name=Ubuntu2d
[19:41] <RiXtEr> Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu to Exec=gnome-session --session=ubuntu2d
[19:42] <RiXtEr> press ctrl-x, then y to exit and save the file
[19:42] <RiXtEr> do a /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[19:42] <RiXtEr> your icon reappears, select ubuntu2d
[19:42] <RiXtEr> try the logon
[19:43] <RiXtEr> it should fail
[19:43] <bjsnider> LateralOctober, did you install nvidia-current?
[19:43] <RiXtEr> then select ubuntu and it should work again
[19:43] <RiXtEr> then rm /usr/share/xsession/ubuntu2d.desktop
[19:43] <RiXtEr> and report back if you have success Almindor
[19:43] <RiXtEr> bjsnider, yes nvidia-current works fine here.
[19:43] <LateralOctober> bjsnider, I did but it failed to find the modules when I went to start x back up
[19:43] <bjsnider> LateralOctober, what does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file say?
[19:44] <christop1> heya, I'm trying to set up a sip account in empathy, installed telepathy-rakia (and even -sofiasip) but there's nothing that sounds like SIP when I go to g-o-a, is there any other place to add a sip account or do I have to install something else?
[19:46] <trism> christop1: account-plugin-sip perhaps, not all of the g-o-a plugins are installed by default
[19:46] <trism> sorry u-o-a, g-o-a doesn't let you use plugins
[19:47] <christop1> oh, well, I guess I use u-o-a then, I get sip now after installing the plugin, thanks
[19:47] <trism> yeah a bit confusing with both of them available
[19:47] <LateralOctober> bjsnider: I'll have to pull the contents when I get home and reboot into the live image again.  I ran nvidia-xconfig after installing nvidia-current and x still wouldn't start up
[19:48] <bjsnider> guhhh
[19:48] <christop1> yeah, especially since this is my first ubuntu install since I think 8.x heh
[19:48] <Almindor> RiXtEr, just changing /var/lib/AccountsService/users/username and changing ubuntu-2d to ubuntu fixed it
[19:48] <christop1> was kinda used to only g-o-a being available heh
[19:49] <RiXtEr> Almindor, good :)
[19:49] <bjsnider> LateralOctober, sometimes that command is out of step with the current xorg code, so it creates a broken xorg.conf
[19:49] <RiXtEr> sorry for the delayed response on this, my internet dropped (yes that long)
[19:49] <Almindor> RiXtEr: I hope this bug gets fixed tho, it's a showstopper
[19:49] <LateralOctober> complained that the kernel modules couldn't be found, was trying to load nvidia though.  Couldn't find them modprobe either, but that could have just been a result of me trying to install a beta build after being on the road for 13 hours
[19:49] <RiXtEr> bjsnider, actually I am using the drivers off of the nvidia website
[19:49] <RiXtEr> not the package drivers
[19:49] <bjsnider> LateralOctober, jockey-text -e nvidia_current is good enough
[19:50] <bjsnider> RiXtEr, congratulations on damaging your system, but i wasn't talking to you
[19:50] <RiXtEr> Almindor, I am betting it will, bjsnider where should I file this (bugs.launchpad.com ?)
[19:50] <bjsnider> RiXtEr, there's already a bug
[19:50] <RiXtEr> bjsnider, damaging my system?
[19:50] <RiXtEr> how so?
[19:51] <Almindor> RiXtEr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1059137
[19:52] <bjsnider> RiXtEr, the nvidia-installer is a brute force app that overwrites libgl if it finds it int he way, so we package it with alternatives to prevent that
[19:52] <RiXtEr> ah, the packages didn't seem to work right here, so I used the website ones.
[19:53] <bjsnider> the old nvidia forums contained a post from nvidia telling people to use the distro packages instead of the nvidia-installer
[19:53] <RiXtEr> hrm. I have always had better luck with the nvidia-installer than the packaged drivers (on different distro's even)
[19:54] <RiXtEr> either way, that I why I love linux, freedom of choice.
[19:54] <RiXtEr> :)
[19:54] <bjsnider> yeah, makes it very easy when it wipes out anything that stands in its way
[19:55] <LateralOctober> bjsnider, I'll give it another shot when I get home.  I'll have to get on IRC from my work laptop or something
[19:55] <bjsnider> yeah
[20:06] <christop1> another thing that just hit me: some apps try to play back on my HDMI out even though it's not even plugged in, so I can't change that either (sound settings displays only the internal speakers), only way to fix that is via pavucontrol
[20:06] <christop1> is that a bug or just me being stupid?
[20:07] <christop1> internal card is set as default though
[20:27] <christop1> also, seems like taking a screenshot of a window via alt+print is broken, alt opens the dash home, so that one becomes the active window and is on the screenshot
[21:46] <LateralOctober> bjsnider, still around?
[21:57] <LateralOctober> alright... so I'm having problems getting the live image running.  Nouveau is failing with failed to idle channel 1 and 2, PFIFO - playlist update failed, etc. etc.
[21:58] <LateralOctober> always had problems with Nouveau, so I typically ran the alternate install, booted up afterwards, blacklisted it and installed nvidia-current.  Problem is, can't do it with the live image, and I can't unload the nouveau mod and load nvidia cuz it locks the framebuffer
[21:58] <LateralOctober> any ideas?
[21:59] <LateralOctober> this is beta2
[22:00] <LateralOctober> oh, and the grub screen is a garbled mess so I can't use the nomodeset or remove the splash option that has been suggested elsewhere
[22:01] <silverarrow> nouveau have had trouble in ppc too
[22:01] <silverarrow> boot stage is a bit different there
[22:02] <LateralOctober> I've never had anything but trouble with nouveau, no matter what distro I was using
[22:02] <LateralOctober> was always able to get around it though with a text-based installer ::cough::
[22:10] <LateralOctober> hmm... wonder if I could do ubitiquity --automatic
[22:10] <LateralOctober> except spelled correctly
[23:06] <Belial`> http://pastebin.com/WK3nGvvR getting this after trying to run synaptiks or use touchpad config in kubuntu 12.10
[23:06] <Belial`> didn't have that problem in 12.04