[00:09] <hggdh> Lucid has 5 years for server, not for desktop. Precise is the first version that has equal-time support for both server and desktop
[08:35] <Laibsch> hggdh: OK, but duplicity is a command-line tool
[14:20] <TheLordOfTime> why is it we don't have a canned response for "Bug Filed Against EOL Release"?
[14:21] <TheLordOfTime> also, i assume bugs against EOL releases get "Won't Fixed"
[14:32] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: as long as they have already been fixed on a supported release, or that the package has been dropped from all supported releases
[14:33] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, its a server package, php5.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/744371  <--
[14:33] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 744371 in php5 "PHP5-FPM doesn't always restart on 10.10" [Medium,Confirmed]
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> i'm already on it with hallyn in the server channel
[14:34] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: cool
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> i also needed a reminder, been a while since i've focused on bugs :p
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> on another note
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> I think we should have a canned response for "EOL release" bugs... something like this: Thank you for taking the time to make Ubuntu better.  Unfortunately, this bug is filed against an EndOfLife release of Ubuntu.  This means that the release of Ubuntu this bug is filed against is no longer supported or updated.  If this bug exists in a later release of Ubuntu that is supported (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases contains a
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> list of all releases of Ubuntu, both supported and EndOfLife), you may refile against the package using information from the package in that version of Ubuntu.
[14:35] <TheLordOfTime> bleh stupid paste
[14:35]  * TheLordOfTime pastebins
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> ignore this wordwrap, its evil:
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1267499/
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> i had to manually word-wrap it
[14:39] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, we should have something under Responses IMO for this, otherwise i'll just BS it each time :P
[14:39] <hggdh> I thought we had
[14:39] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: if not there, add one, please
[14:40] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, i didnt see one, please  sift through to correct me if i'm wrong
[14:40]  * TheLordOfTime hasnt had coffee or breakfast, and doesn't want to sift through these things.
[14:48] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: indeed, nothing particular to this case. Please go ahead and add one :-)
[14:48] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, see pastebin for a suggested response: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1267499/
[14:50] <hggdh> s/against an EndOfLife release of Ubuntu/against a release of Ubuntu that is no longer supported/  # assume an OP is a casual user
[14:50] <hggdh> bah. You explain that before
[14:50] <hggdh> s/before/after/
[14:50] <hggdh> I really need coffee
[14:51] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: good
[14:51] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[14:51] <TheLordOfTime> i'll post that later then
[14:51] <TheLordOfTime> or rather right now.
[14:51] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[20:52] <silverarrow> hi
[20:52] <silverarrow> can someone un-private a bug for me?
[20:52] <silverarrow> it turns out useless when noone can see it?
[20:53] <silverarrow> bug report launched by it`s self when mplayer / gecko crashed,
[20:53] <silverarrow> hi phillw
[20:56] <silverarrow> this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mplayer/+bug/1064049
[20:56] <ubot2> silverarrow: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0x91e6fac> bug 1064049 not found
[20:57] <jtaylor> looks like its a security bug, you'll have to ask in ubuntu-hardened
[20:57] <silverarrow> no, it is mplayer gecko bug
[20:58] <jtaylor> is the number correct? I can't access it
[20:59] <phillw> jtaylor: are there any bug squad admins on duty?
[20:59] <silverarrow> yeah, I made it a few minutes ago
[20:59] <jtaylor> I'm in bug squad but can't read it
[21:00] <jtaylor> that either means a launchpad bug or blocked by security
[21:00] <jtaylor> or wrong number
[21:03] <phillw> silverarrow: can you check on your lp page for reported bugs? (there is a tab for bugs)
[21:03] <silverarrow> let mehttp://imagebin.org/231326
[21:04] <silverarrow> we keep running in circles here
[21:04] <jtaylor> is it your bug? you can make it public yourself
[21:04] <silverarrow> I can?
[21:04] <jtaylor> click on the button on the top right
[21:05] <silverarrow> is it there now?
[21:05] <jtaylor> yes
[21:05] <silverarrow> bug 1064049
[21:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1064049 in gnome-mplayer "gnome mplayer with gecko crashes, do not work on PowerPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064049
[21:06] <phillw> thanks jtaylor
[21:06] <jtaylor> the coredump may contain private information
[21:06] <silverarrow> I can`t think of any info which should not be public ?
[21:06] <jtaylor> you should remove it if you care
[21:06] <silverarrow> well, passworks would be a i bit annying to have plublic, but have no state secrets on the computer
[21:06] <silverarrow> passwords *
[21:07] <jtaylor> I wonder why I couldn't see the bug
[21:07] <silverarrow> what is core dump?
[21:07] <jtaylor> a dump of the memory at the time of the crash
[21:07] <jtaylor> it if you typed in passwords into mplayer they might be in there
[21:07] <jtaylor> though I don't think mplayer has that feature :)
[21:08] <silverarrow> no passwords in mplayer
[21:08] <silverarrow> in firefox yes
[21:08] <jtaylor> if you are unsure make it private again and wait for the apport retracer to get the stacktrace
[21:08] <jtaylor> then check the stacktrace for private information, and make it public again
[21:09] <silverarrow> do they ever?
[21:09] <silverarrow> I had a bug yesterday which autolaunched too, never heard anything on it, it went privat
[21:09] <jtaylor> its very very rare
[21:09] <jtaylor> but every crash is considered private due to the possibility
[21:09] <silverarrow> I understand
[21:10] <silverarrow> password would be the only thing I mind having plublic
[21:10] <jtaylor> coredumps on the other hand are more likely to contain passwords typed into the application thats why they are always removed by the retracer
[21:10] <silverarrow> I see
[21:11] <silverarrow> yeah I lost a lot of point there lol
[21:13] <phillw> jtaylor: just so as to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#My_Bug_went_Private which is being also mirrored at Ubuntu-QA, do you have the time to update that section? Thanks (I'll copy it over to main ubuntu-qa area)
[21:13] <jtaylor> there should be a section on private bugs in the bugsquad wiki you can copy
[21:14] <phillw> jtaylor: can you give me the link, thanks
[21:16] <jtaylor> hm apparently not
[21:16] <jtaylor> also the askubuntu question is laking
[21:17] <jtaylor> thats defininetly something that should be improved
[21:17] <jtaylor> especially telling people they can mark it public themself
[21:17] <jtaylor> but I got to go now
[21:17] <jtaylor> bye
[21:18] <phillw> jtaylor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview#Bugs is what we currently have, whilst it cannot hold a whole wiki area in a few paragraphs, I do ask that you guys have a look at it & update where needed.
[21:18] <silverarrow> bye
[21:19] <phillw> jtaylor: thanks, sweet dreams