[15:03]  * smartboyhw wonders where did balloons go...
[15:06] <silverarrow> he used helium today, and flew off
[15:06] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, no he used all the helium for the 24-hour marathon last Thur
[15:07] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:07] <silverarrow> he hasn`t been seen since
[15:07] <silverarrow> lol
[15:07] <smartboyhw> god I need to talk to him:D
[15:07] <silverarrow> he ran a marathon?
[15:07] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, that Community Team one. Don't tell me you don't know
[15:08] <silverarrow> what about it?
[15:08] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, he stayed up for 24-hours with jono and his team so he ran out of helium after 24h
[15:08] <silverarrow> you mean on the forum?
[15:08] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, oh no
[15:09] <silverarrow> oh I see, I didn`t know
[15:09] <smartboyhw> http://marathon.ubuntuonair.com
[15:09] <silverarrow> a lot of coffee involved or plain persistence ?
[15:09] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, ....nvm
[15:10] <silverarrow> I took my computer in for repair, I have no flash
[15:10] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, ok
[15:10] <silverarrow> at home at least
[15:11] <silverarrow> it is still under warranty, so I didn`t want to do any fixes my self
[15:13] <silverarrow> so, I missed all the fuxx
[15:13] <silverarrow> zz
[15:13] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, ;D
[15:13] <silverarrow> they collected donations it seems
[15:14] <silverarrow> non of the ppc fixes work yet
[15:15] <silverarrow> and I still have no sound
[15:44] <Guest33844> I'm a hydrogen balloon actually
[15:44] <smartboyhw> Guest33844, eh don't tell me you ARE balloons the QA guy
[15:44] <smartboyhw> change your nick then please
[15:45] <smartboyhw> balloons, read my email?
[15:45] <smartboyhw> balloons, read my email?
[15:45] <balloons> lol
[15:45] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:45] <smartboyhw> balloons, so I am phillw are going to do that Open Week QA session on 25th Oct 1400UTC. Tell joseeantonior or philballew that please:D
[15:46] <smartboyhw> *and
[15:46] <smartboyhw> Forget the am:D
[15:46] <balloons> smartboyhw, it's easy :-) just sign up for a slot
[15:46] <balloons> then everyone will know
[15:46] <smartboyhw> balloons, you need to tell THEM if not they won't allow it
[15:47] <smartboyhw> balloons, just go to #ubuntu-classroom-backstage and tell joseeantonior that:D
[15:48] <phillw> hi balloons have you had a good sleep?
[15:48] <elfy> balloons: at some point this evening when you've got 5 minutes can you ping me please :)
[15:48]  * smartboyhw thinks balloons slept for at least 60 hours:D
[15:48] <elfy> my evening I hasten to add lol
[15:48] <smartboyhw> balloons, see not waking up or showing up at weekends will cause QA leads to come after you:D
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Anyway bye everyone phillw keep on with that QA session with balloons :D
[15:52] <balloons> I have been slowly working back my sleep schedule from vampire mode
[15:52] <balloons> phillw, howdy sir
[15:53] <balloons> I slept for a long time after the marathon
[15:53] <balloons> hehe
[15:54] <phillw> I know... i end up doing silly 24 - 36 hour sessions. My parents know not to wake me up.
[16:09] <balloons> criss averted!
[16:13] <elfy> who's criss?
[16:15] <balloons> crisis..
[16:15] <balloons> wow
[16:16] <elfy> still a bit tired are we :)
[16:19] <balloons> your right, I am
[16:19] <balloons> see what I did there?
[16:19] <balloons> lol
[16:19] <balloons> on purpose :-p
[16:22] <davmor2> balloons: are you not in the states?
[16:43] <elfy> davmor2: seesm he's just still in a state :)
[16:44] <davmor2> elfy: no the reason I was asking is it is a national holiday
[16:44] <elfy> oic
[17:17] <balloons> davmor2, yes I am
[17:18] <balloons> yes columbus day.. yadada yada
[17:57] <davmor2> balloons: so 24 hours punishment wasn't enough?
[17:58] <balloons> davmor2, haha
[17:58] <balloons> I suppose not
[18:03] <knome> balloons, there seems to be something wrong with the post-installation test
[18:03] <knome> balloons, +s
[18:03] <balloons> which ones?
[18:03] <knome> balloons, i'm told they are archived again and again
[18:03] <balloons> xubuntu?
[18:03] <balloons> ohh es
[18:03] <balloons> elfy and I spoke
[18:03] <balloons> they are disabled
[18:03] <knome> oh, right
[18:04] <knome> disabled - where?
[18:04] <balloons> he wanted to chat with you before turning them on
[18:04] <balloons> in the admin section
[18:04] <knome> i looked at the admin section and i didn't see anything disabled
[18:04] <balloons> I don't know why.. but that's why you can't report :-)
[18:04] <knome> is there something more than the two tests i've created?
[18:04] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/279/edit
[18:05] <knome> ummh, aren't those the ones that were moved to the different testsuite
[18:05] <knome> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/303/edit
[18:06] <knome> those do show up at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/25223/testcases
[18:06] <knome> and i'm not sure what the archived/disabled stuff means really
[18:06] <knome> i can't remove those tests from the old testsuite either
[18:07] <knome> if them being disabled there makes them be archived
[18:39] <balloons> knome, sorry I was afk for a bit there
[18:40] <balloons> knome, if they are disabled they won't show up
[18:40] <knome> np
[18:40] <balloons> if the problem is a bit different, let me know
[18:40] <knome> balloons, but they show up in the other testsuite.
[18:40] <balloons> I'm getting confused
[18:40] <balloons> let's start from the top
[18:40] <knome> yep
[18:40] <knome> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/25223/testcases
[18:40] <balloons> where's the link showing the testcases you CAN'T report against?
[18:40] <knome> see
[18:40] <knome> there's those two testsuites
[18:40] <knome> as you linked them to our desktop images
[18:40] <balloons> k, got it
[18:41] <balloons> yep
[18:41] <knome> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/279/edit
[18:41] <knome> this also lists the desktop testcases
[18:41] <knome> and they are disabled here
[18:41] <knome> and they should be, because they are enabled on the other testsuite
[18:41] <balloons> ok, right makes snse
[18:41] <knome> right
[18:41] <knome> now on the first link
[18:41] <balloons> so what's the other testsuite>
[18:42] <knome> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/303/edit
[18:42] <knome> that
[18:42] <knome> now on the first link
[18:42] <knome> press "desktop (xubuntu)
[18:42] <knome> "
[18:42] <balloons> this one: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/303/edit
[18:42] <knome> you can't report !
[18:42] <balloons> I see the problem
[18:42] <knome> first link as in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/25223/testcases
[18:42] <balloons> ok, so I wonder if there's an isotracker bug
[18:42] <knome> so maybe we should remove the testcases from the other testsuite
[18:42] <balloons> because it's disabled in one suite, and enable din another
[18:42] <knome> yes
[18:42] <knome> exactly
[18:43] <knome> that definitely looks like it
[18:43] <balloons> yep
[18:43] <balloons> I just turned them on again
[18:43] <balloons> boom it works
[18:43] <knome> yeah
[18:43] <balloons> ok, so bug filing time
[18:43] <balloons> let's turn them on for now
[18:43] <knome> can you remove the disabled testcases from the testsuite?
[18:43] <balloons> till the bug is fixed?
[18:44] <knome> i mean, is there a method for hypersuperadmin to remove testcases from suites
[18:44] <knome> i'd rather not enable those like that because now they show up twice
[18:44] <balloons> k it's working now
[18:44] <knome> great
[18:44] <balloons> I toggled it on / off and it's working
[18:44] <knome> aha
[18:44] <balloons> there's a sticky bug in there somewhere
[18:45] <balloons> we'll have to re-create on the test site and file a bug on it
[18:45] <knome> i think this might happen for the next milestone too
[18:45] <knome> elfy, it should be fixed... for now
[18:45] <knome> yup, sounds like a bug time
[18:46] <knome> what's the requirements to be added as a hyper admin? ;)
[18:46] <knome> or whatever the name
[19:01] <balloons> knome, I didn't do anything you couldn't have done in this case
[19:02] <balloons> however, we'd have to talk to strgaber about admin powers.. I believe flavor leads have some more powers in general, but I could be wrong
[19:02] <knome> ok
[19:02] <knome> as long as it works..
[19:04] <knome> o
[19:04] <knome> i'm off for today
[19:04] <knome> see you later!
[19:28] <elfy> thanks knome balloons
[20:17] <Noskcaj> anyone know why you can switch workspces during the install?
[20:19] <phillw> Noskcaj: nope, it is a problem?
[20:19] <Noskcaj> not really, just wondering why they would have that in
[20:30] <silverarrow> gnome player and gecko is broken for powerpc
[20:31] <silverarrow> worse than precise
[20:31] <silverarrow> gecko I suspect really
[20:33] <phillw> silverarrow: have you checked to see if there are bugs open?#
[20:44] <silverarrow> phillw: I can`t find a single on gecko
[20:44] <phillw> silverarrow: what is gecko?
[20:44] <silverarrow> a reptile
[20:44] <silverarrow> mozilla plugin that works with gnome mplayer
[20:45] <silverarrow> gecko mediaplayer
[20:45] <phillw> good, for a moment there I thought it was a 'bug' :)
[20:45] <silverarrow> a big one right on top of it
[20:45] <silverarrow> ;- )
[20:46] <silverarrow> it crashed in my browser, and it launched a bug report by it`s self
[20:46] <silverarrow> I followed it through, but if it keeps being private, who will care?
[20:46] <phillw> silverarrow: I am seeing chatter about media player bugs. they are on my TODO list. I promise. getting an install working is still top of the list.
[20:47] <phillw> silverarrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#My_Bug_went_Private
[20:48] <silverarrow> can you see this on your computer bug 1064049
[20:48] <phillw> silverarrow: been there, had the discussion, go let them know, please?
[20:48] <silverarrow> a secret bug
[20:48] <phillw> it was a guy from bug squad who wrote that bit up.
[20:49] <silverarrow> thanks
[20:50] <silverarrow> there should be a bug channel
[20:50] <phillw> we've had it before and I had a <rant> ...... </end rant> with those really good people. They took the time out to add an entry for if it should happen in the future, which it appears to have done.
[20:51] <silverarrow> so, I can "unprivate" it?
[20:51] <phillw> silverarrow: there is! The bot that goes looking for duplicated bugs is not aware if the bug it is using as master is private. If this happens please go to #ubuntu-bugs and raise it with them.
[20:51] <silverarrow> thanks again
[20:52] <phillw> the bug squad can un-private it for you,
[20:53] <phillw> silverarrow: now... ask politely!
[20:53] <silverarrow> yeah, I don`t mean to be difficult really
[20:54] <phillw> I'm only there to assist.
[20:54] <silverarrow> not sure how active the channel is
[20:54] <phillw> silverarrow: you have every right to ask why your bug went private
[20:56] <phillw> have you asked why bug 1064049 was marked private by the bot?
[20:56] <phillw> silverarrow:  ^^
[20:56] <silverarrow> yeah
[20:57] <silverarrow> I think it has something to do with "core dump"
[20:57] <silverarrow> and autolaunch bugs
[20:58] <phillw> one of the things with testing that is taught is.........
[20:58] <phillw> .......
[20:58] <phillw> .......
[20:58] <phillw> ......
[20:58] <phillw> patience :)
[21:01] <phillw> silverarrow: I've gone asked on -hardning area for you.
[21:11] <Noskcaj> balloons, phillw: do knome and i need to make a lvm + encription testcase for xubuntu, its something we missed last month with the rewrites
[21:11] <silverarrow> good
[21:19] <silverarrow> minitube crashes too, or mostly, just do not work
[21:19] <silverarrow> I wonder how high up minitube is
[21:19] <silverarrow> in general I mean, it is pretty popluar on osx
[21:19] <phillw> Noskcaj: just use the ubuntu one?
[21:20] <Noskcaj> phillw: you mean the multi-desktop, i think so, i forget if xubuntu has it
[21:21] <Noskcaj> phillw: i have to go to school now, i will talk later
[21:21] <wxl> phillw: you have any idea what's up with all these chromium crashing bugs? i'm getting to the point where i'm tired of looking at them :)
[21:21] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'm sure balloons said he had updated the lvm + encrytption test caes. I'll ceratainy go look for you,
[21:22] <wxl> silverarrow: bug 1064049 just went public so you should get the other ppc folks to test it, especially other radeon users in case it's related to graphics
[21:22] <silverarrow> yeahi unprived it my self
[21:22] <silverarrow> unprivated
[21:23] <silverarrow> can you say that in English?
[21:23] <phillw> wxl: i just ignore them. I gave ubuntu a person who would keep the chromium ppa area up to date, and have heard exactly jack zero back.
[21:23] <wxl> no, it's illegal
[21:23] <silverarrow> oh,
[21:23] <wxl> phillw: i know i'm not telling the right person but i really want to vote we go to xombrero as default browser. i've been using it a lot lately
[21:23] <phillw> wxl: I'll ask balloons (yet again) once he's had food :)
[21:23] <wxl> :)
[21:24] <wxl> actually maybe you are the right person— to tell me the "formal" process for changing the default
[21:25] <phillw> wxl: that is really a discussion for PPC, As you may have seen, I'm having enough 'fun' keeping a PPC release going :D
[21:25] <silverarrow> wxl, will I ever have sound again you think ?
[21:25] <wxl> phillw: i'm referring to a global change, not just ppc
[21:25] <phillw> wxl: PPC takes a vote and then asks Julien to implement it.
[21:25] <wxl> silverarrow: dunno yet
[21:25] <silverarrow> I don`t understand the fuzz about optional functions in yaboot stage?
[21:26] <wxl> silverarrow: more or less, canonical doesn't want to have to force people to add things (like video=ofonly) to make things work
[21:26] <wxl> that's "kludgy" in their opinion
[21:26] <phillw> silverarrow: join the crew... I don't have a ppc machine - which is why wxl is in charge.
[21:26] <silverarrow> wxl, should I tru xombrero too?
[21:26] <silverarrow> I have firefox and midori
[21:26] <wxl> silverarrow: i haven't tried it on ppc yet but i love it on x86
[21:26] <wxl> it's light and super secure
[21:27] <silverarrow> force is one thing, but make it worse by omitting it?
[21:27] <phillw> wxl: I also like xxxterm, just takes a bit of getting used to :)
[21:27] <silverarrow> I however, like ff plugins
[21:28] <wxl> phillw: xxxterm = xombrero
[21:29] <wxl> i think plugins are nice but not totally necessary. i like how much quicker xxxterm/xombrero runs
[21:29] <silverarrow> for ppc they are make or brake
[21:30] <silverarrow> can be at least
[21:30] <phillw> wxl: balloons has run away for food, when he returns have a chat. Basic area as of now is to /j ##phillw
[21:30] <silverarrow> like gnash browser plugin, gecko, gstreamer....
[21:31] <phillw> wxl: I await :)
[21:31] <silverarrow> it`s not available for ppc
[21:31] <phillw> shh, quick, here comes the boss!
[21:31] <silverarrow> wxl, how do you spell it?
[21:32] <wxl> silverarrow: it's xxxterm in the repos
[21:33] <silverarrow> found it
[21:33] <silverarrow> I was a bit slow there
[21:33] <silverarrow> thanks
[21:39] <silverarrow> what is the aboutaddon called ?
[21:39] <silverarrow> I keep googleing it and cannot find it
[21:39] <silverarrow> or, aboutplugins
[21:49] <balloons> nom nom nom
[21:56] <silverarrow> I have constant trouble with scrips in firefox 15.0.1
[22:37] <silverarrow> all the browserplugins are broken for ppc
[22:38] <silverarrow> for gnash, mplayer/gecko,