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* Kilos greets ubuntu-za's peeps05:56
Kiloshi not_found-droid 06:05
Kilosgreetings all06:05
Kilosfunny funny fly06:05
not_found-droidAlo 06:06
inetprogood morning 06:40
not_found-droidO/06:40
Kiloshiya inetpro 06:52
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:52
maiatodayhi Kilos06:57
charlvngood morning07:00
charlvnMaaz: coffee on07:00
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:00
KilosMaaz, coffee please07:00
MaazKilos: Righto07:00
Kiloshi charlvn 07:01
Kilos_grr power cut for 30 secs07:04
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos!07:04
Kilos_wind musta blown a branch against lines07:04
Kilos_Maaz, ty07:04
MaazYou are welcome Kilos_07:04
=== Kilos_ is now known as Kilos
charlvnhi Kilos 07:34
charlvnMaaz: thanks07:34
Maazcharlvn: Sure07:34
magespawngood morning08:11
Kiloshi magespawn 08:11
magespawnhow things Kilos?08:12
Kilosok ty magespawn  and you?08:15
Kilosbit of a thumper today but still maintaining08:15
magespawnyup cool and overcast08:21
Kiloslekker warm here but strong wind08:33
Kilosnatal getting all the clouds methinks08:34
Kilosand we need rain bad08:35
superflyKilos: what's funny?08:37
inetprohi superfly, I think he may be referring to your message re: a real programming language...08:42
Kiloslol you superfly 08:55
Kilostruth but so direct08:55
Kiloshehe08:55
Kiloslike i dont have those problems i use kubuntu08:55
Kilosinetpro, where is the rain?08:56
inetproKilos: tomorrow08:57
Kiloswow i really hope so08:58
Kilossheep suffering08:58
Kilosjust been cutting down creepers for them08:58
inetproKilos: if not tomorrow then Wednesday, but after this heat we really need the rain09:00
inetproI think it will come09:00
magespawnKilos can you not feed them lucern pellets?09:00
inetprohi magespawn09:01
Kilosyes but they dont grow here09:01
Kiloshehe09:01
magespawnhah09:01
magespawnhey inetpro09:01
Kilosand electricity expensive to pump water all over09:01
magespawnhow many sheep have you got?09:01
Kilosonly 12 now09:01
Kilosoh and 2 lambs a few months old09:02
Kilosused to be 35 total09:02
magespawnone bage of lucern would keep the going for awhile09:03
Kilosnot even a day09:04
Kilosi just cut about that much green creepers and its gone already09:04
magespawnlucern has higher food value so you need to mix it09:06
Kilosi used to grow lucern but it needs watering often09:07
Kilosloves water and lan09:07
Kiloslimestone ammonium nitrate09:07
Kilosif it would rain then new grass all over is ideal magespawn 09:08
magespawnwe will hope for rain then09:09
Kilosdont hope. Pray09:10
Kilosty anyway09:10
magespawnindeed09:20
Kiloseskom put lotsa brakes on09:20
Kiloswater from 40-50 metres under the grown costs09:21
Kilosgrownd09:21
magespawndo you collect rain water? jojo tanks?09:26
superflyKilos: ground09:27
Kilosoh my ty superfly 09:29
Kilosno gutters magespawn 09:29
Kilosthats where northern natal is so lekker against the mountains. fountains every few 100 metres09:30
Kilosi piped 3 farms there to large tanks and overflows into dams09:31
magespawnhere we have a strong borehole, but it contains calcium carbonate, so not too good to drink or for appliances09:32
Kiloseish09:33
magespawnokay for plants, but the ppl and pets etc drink rain water09:34
Kiloshey guys do you get ddr to ddr2 adapters10:02
magespawnKilos not as far as i know10:11
Kilosaw it woulda been nice. got a 1g ddr2 ram card and no pc for it10:16
Kilosi thought seeing as they make ide to sata ada[ters they might do it for ram too10:17
Kiloswas hoping actually. kde i think likes lotsa ram10:20
Kilostumbleweed, can one use the ibid.db file from one bot to another?10:36
Kilosi would love maaz's for my bot, he is well educated10:37
superflyKilos: no more than Unity or Gnome 310:37
tumbleweedKilos: I'm afraid not, although it's technically possible10:40
Kilosyeah superfly you right, but i keep using maverick and mate as well so see a huge diffs10:40
superflyKilos: well, when you use half a desktop, compared to a comprehensive desktop you will see a difference10:41
Kilosty tumbleweed 10:41
Kiloslol superfly can you explain that to me?10:42
Kilostumbleweed, are there links in the db to the individual nicks?10:42
Kilosis that the snag?10:42
Kilosare you in za or at a dev thingie again10:43
superflyKilos: jokes aside, MATE uses much less memory because it doesn't do as much10:43
superflyKilos: but I've found that KDE generally works well even on lower end machines10:43
Kilosyeah superfly it works ok here with 1g ram, just things open a bit slower10:44
superflyKilos: remember that KDE uses the same set of libraries for almost all its programmes, so when you load KDE you get a whole bunch of libraries in memory too, but you don't have to load those libraries for every KDE app that launches. Your individual apps potentially use less memory in KDE than other desktop environments.10:45
Kilosah10:45
Kilosanother thing please. after installing nvidia-current do you have to configure it still?10:46
Kilosunity still says i using 2d mode10:46
superflyNo, it should work fine10:46
Kiloskde doesnt say anything just goes10:47
tumbleweedKilos: that is the snag, yes10:47
superflyKilos: you can try to enable desktop effects by pressing Alt+Shift+F12, and it'll tell you if there are any problems10:47
Kilosah ty tumbleweed superfly will try that10:48
Kilosi forgot about that f12 bit10:48
Kiloswhew screen went black with flashing cursor11:03
Kiloslotsa stuff it says couldnt be activated11:05
* Kilos will stay with them effects off11:05
superflyKilos: then it doesn't seem like nvidia-current is playing nice11:05
superflyKilos: is that 12.04?11:05
Kilosyip superfly 11:10
Kilosthe one i install from stick11:10
superflyja, I had problems with the nVidia driver in 12.04. I had to go and download the beta driver from nVidia's site. The good news is that it is fixed in 12.1011:13
Kiloslol no man i wanted to stick with lts this time around11:15
Kilosdata last longer if no upgrades all the time11:15
Kilosi have 12.04 at the stage i can do a clean install , rsync archives and update upgrade for 20m data11:17
=== DigiGram_ is now known as DigiGram
Kiloshi DigiGram 11:33
Kilosfunny real name you got11:33
DigiGramhi Kilos11:33
Kilosrealname11:34
Kiloshehe11:34
DigiGramlol11:34
=== DigiGram is now known as Digi||Gram
magespawnevening all16:33
Cantideevening~16:33
superflyhi16:34
nuvolario/ hello 17:07
Cantidehey~17:08
Cantideit's quiet here tonight 'o'17:08
Cantideoh, Kilos is not here 'o'17:08
nuvolarihe wooshed out of here now now17:09
nuvolariKilos (~miles@8ta-151-159-49.telkomadsl.co.za) has quit (Quit: Woooosh) 17:09
Cantidelol17:09
Cantidewooosh always reminds me of Chrono Trigger '-'17:09
nuvolaribwahaha! A guy got chased by a deer into a tree17:12
nuvolari(on tv just now :P)17:12
Tonberrywhat kind of deer?17:12
nuvolari'n takbok17:13
Cantidehahahahaha17:13
Tonberryah17:13
Cantidewhat's a takbok? 'o'17:13
nuvolariMaaz: translate takbok en17:13
Maaznuvolari: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2.  See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.17:13
nuvolariMaaz: help translate17:13
Maaznuvolari: Translates a phrase using Google Translate. You can use it like this:17:13
Maaz  translate (<phrase>|<url>) [from <language>] [to <language>]17:13
Maaz  translation chain <phrase> [from <language>] [to <language>]17:13
Tonberryreindeer?17:13
nuvolariMaaz: translate from en to af takbok17:14
Maaznuvolari: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2.  See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.17:14
nuvolaripfft. 17:14
nuvolariyeah, reindeer17:14
nuvolariMaaz: translate takbok from af to en17:14
Maaznuvolari: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2.  See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.17:14
Cantidehart ?17:14
nuvolarihi om Kilos 17:15
nuvolari*oom Kilos 17:15
Kiloshi nuvolari hoe gaan dit seun17:15
nuvolarino Cantide, my hart makeer niks :P17:15
Cantidehaha17:15
Cantidehey Kilos :)17:15
nuvolaridit gaan goed dankie oom Kilos!17:15
Kiloshey Cantide 17:15
nuvolarihet oom 'n lekker dag gehad?17:15
Kiloslekker warm maar slegte kop dag17:16
nuvolarioom moet kom kuier, lekker reënweer hierso17:16
nuvolarioom se kop sal lekker rus17:16
Kiloslol17:16
nuvolarinee, rus, nie lol nie17:17
nuvolari:P17:17
Kilosdis net van aktief wees, kop hou nie van dit nie17:17
Kilosbid net vir groot reen vir ons dan sal die grass groei en my werk verminder17:18
Kilosnuvolari, waar is die apie17:18
nuvolarinee ek weet nie oom17:19
nuvolariek dink oom sal meer weet :P17:19
nuvolariek is so skaars deesdae17:19
nuvolariek het wel gesien dat hy gese het hy gaan na die release party toe17:19
Kiloshy nog erger17:19
nuvolari:( ek kwyl nou vir 'n bietjie avocado17:20
Kilosai17:20
magespawnhey nuvolari17:20
nuvolarimaar nee, hulle moet mos groen wees tot wie weet wanneer17:20
nuvolarihowdy magespawn! Are you doing well?17:20
Kiloshey magespawn 17:20
Kilosmagespawn, you must try join the durbs peeps for the release party17:21
magespawni see there is a release party in the works for durban. well ty nuvolari hey Kilos17:21
Kiloshehe17:21
Cantideoh17:21
Cantidekeep me updated, please :)17:21
KilosCantide, dont you get mails from our list17:22
Cantidei dont ._.17:23
Kiloswhy?17:23
Kilosnuvolari, give him the link please17:23
magespawnprovisionally for the 20th or 27th17:23
nuvolarimagespawn: I scanned my mail just now now17:24
nuvolariyea, what you said17:24
nuvolari:P17:24
Kilosunity hasnt got nuf workspaces to open mail too17:24
nuvolari http://bit.ly/MCOujZ17:24
nuvolarithat one?17:24
* nuvolari checks whether it is the mailing list17:24
Kilosour mailing list17:25
nuvolariyeah17:25
nuvolariCantide:  http://bit.ly/MCOujZ17:25
Kilosubuntu-za17:25
Cantidesubscribed! Thanks :)17:27
Kilosgood lad17:27
Cantide^-^v17:29
Cantidemagespawn, afternoon or morning?17:30
Cantide20th i'm working, but only 8 am to noon17:30
magespawnnot sure do not recall a time in the mail17:31
Cantideokay17:31
Cantidei think the last one was in the afternoon17:31
Kiloslo ludo17:32
magespawnthe time in the mail is 10:00 till 14:0017:32
Cantidehmm17:33
Cantideit's likely i'd miss that17:33
Cantideoh well :)17:33
Kilosask for an hour off Cantide 17:33
CantideKilos, not gonna happen :p17:33
Cantidebank is too strict17:33
Kilostell them important meeting17:33
Kilosaw17:33
Cantidei could try to change my Saturdays around17:33
Cantideand swap with someone else17:34
Cantidebut that's tricky17:34
Cantideor i could just catch the end of the meet :p17:34
Kilosgood idea but wait till they have fixed the date first17:34
Kiloshaha superfly its taken a while but ian seems hooked on python17:36
Cantideyeah17:36
Cantidethat's what i'm thinking :o17:36
Cantidei should be off on the 27th :)17:36
Kiloseven sends me little things to try17:37
Kilosthe twit17:37
Kilosthen mail the organiser and tell him you can make the 27th17:38
Kilosbefore someone else says the 20th is good17:38
superflyKilos: I'm not surprised, it's a very awesome programming language17:40
magespawnbbl fish time.17:41
CantideKilos, i'd rather not steer it in that direction seeing as i'm not yet certain which dates i'll be working yet17:41
Kiloshehe he wrote some thing i gotta choose integer things numbers tween such and such and a little story when i get y age right17:41
Cantidesometimes they tell us at work a few days before we have to work the saturday -.-v17:42
Kilosah17:42
Cantideso i'd rather it be convenient for others first than for myself17:42
Kiloswell wait till its a bit closer then and try swop if you gotta work17:42
Cantideyep17:44
Cantidei'm keen to get my hands on a disk if i can17:44
Cantideto spare me the download17:44
Kilosyeah. dont you get chance to download at work17:45
Kilosi dont think the cds will be here on time, last time they were like a month after the release date17:53
Kilosor even more17:53
magespawni wont't use it on my systems yet18:02
Kilosi meant download at work and take home18:05
Kilosonna dvd or stick18:05
Kilos12.04 seems good though magespawn 18:06
Kilosapart from nm18:06
Kilosand sound in quassel and xchat18:06
Kilossound they say is fixed in next release, so you guys can figure how i can back something it to 12.0418:08
magespawn12.04 is okay but again a bit too much for my old laptops without changing the desktop 18:10
CantideKilos, i can't connect to the outside world at work - i am completely isolated :D18:11
Kilosaw that sucks18:14
Cantideyes and no18:14
Cantidesometimes it's nice to be there - i get away from everything else :D18:14
Kilosmagespawn, when you got nothing to do and a cable connection just try out tinycorelinux18:15
Kilosit be very cute18:15
Kilosbut you must have cable to start18:15
magespawnCantide are you full time at the bank?18:15
Cantidemagespawn, unfortunately so18:15
Kilosgotta download the mobile stuff18:15
magespawnwill check it Kilos18:15
Cantidei was planning to quit this month18:16
Cantidebut seeing as i'm spending 20 K on a trip, i have to work longer to save that up again18:16
Kilosget the coreplus to write to cd. 66m.  the tinycore is 12m but runs from cd18:16
Kiloscoreplus you can install to hdd18:17
magespawntried puppy linux18:20
magespawnthat was pretty cool18:20
magespawnfast18:20
Kilosi will try that too sometime18:20
Kilosyeah tiny flies18:20
Kilosalmost like things open before you stopped clicking mouse18:21
Kilosvery lekker18:21
charlvngood evening18:22
charlvnMaaz: coffee please18:22
Maazcharlvn: There isn't a pot on18:22
charlvnMaaz: coffee on18:22
* Maaz puts the kettle on18:22
Kiloshi charlvn 18:22
charlvnMaaz: coffee o kudasai18:22
Maazcharlvn: Huh?18:22
KilosMaaz, coffee please18:22
MaazKilos: Righto18:22
charlvnok still need to learn you some japanese Maaz :)18:22
charlvnhi Kilos 18:22
charlvnhow's it going18:22
Kilosok and there18:23
charlvnnot too bad18:24
charlvnMaaz: exchange 1 euro for zar18:24
Maazcharlvn: That didn't go down very well. Burp.18:24
charlvnhmm, currency feature a bit broken i see18:24
Kilosconvert18:24
charlvnMaaz: convert 1 euro for zar18:24
Maazcharlvn: I'm not feeling too well18:24
charlvnbah18:24
Kilosoh my18:24
charlvnhi zeref 18:25
zerefhi charlvn 18:25
Kilosnot eu$18:25
Kilosyo zeref 18:25
MaazCoffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos!18:26
KilosMaaz, ty18:26
MaazYou are welcome Kilos18:26
Kiloswhats the goodie for euros18:26
magespawnMaaz zar to euro18:30
Maazmagespawn: Sorry...18:30
Kiloscharlvn, <QP> 1 EUR (Euro) = 11.51 ZAR (Rand) (Last trade rate: 11.5056, Bid: 11.4999, Ask: 11.5113)18:30
magespawnty Kilos18:31
magespawnhah18:31
Kilosyw18:32
Kiloscommand is convert 1 eur to ZAR18:32
KilosEUR18:32
KilosMaaz, convert 1 EUR to ZAR18:33
MaazKilos: That didn't seem to agree with me18:33
KilosMaaz, botsnack18:33
MaazYay, at last someone thinks about me as well18:33
Kilosthe daily build works kiff18:33
magespawnshame poor Maaz does not like money/currencies 9r maybe it is just the exchange rate18:34
Kilosmagespawn, you can always go use QP hey18:34
magespawnty Kilos will keep that in mind18:35
Kiloslol if i havent forgotten to wake the cow18:35
CantideMaaz zar to krw18:40
MaazCantide: What?18:40
Cantide>_<18:40
Kiloshaha18:40
Kiloswhats krw18:40
CantideKorean Won18:40
Cantidebut i may have it wrong18:40
Cantidelast i checked it was 127 :'(18:41
Kilos1 ZAR (Rand) = 125 KRW (Won) (Last trade rate: 125.3374, Bid: 125.2816, Ask: 125.3932)18:41
Cantidenoooooo18:41
Cantideit was 138 a few weeks back18:41
Cantidestupid rand :(18:41
Kilosyeah it dipped lots18:42
Kilosall the strikes18:42
KilosCantide, join ##kilos and see if you get greeted18:43
magespawnlol18:43
Kilosi dunno if she works18:43
Kiloswhat magespawn 18:44
Kilosdoes she greet?18:44
Kilosi dunno if im supposed to see the greeting18:46
magespawnKilos if have not forgotten to make the cow18:46
Kiloslol18:46
magespawnlooks like that did not load hey Kilos18:46
Kilosgreeter dont work, i wonder why18:46
Kiloshmm18:47
magespawnany one here who has used a token ring network?18:47
Kerberolol no18:47
Kilosaw i havent taught her on unity18:47
Kerberothose things are ancient :P18:47
Kilossigh18:47
magespawnmm thats what i thought, but is still part of thenA+ exam18:48
KilosCantide, try now18:50
Kilosive done so many installs i dunno whats where18:51
Kilosstill nothing18:52
Kilosgrrr18:52
magespawnKerbero: thay are only talking about logical token ring not physical18:54
Kilosnaand Kerbero 18:54
Kilossal nog eendag by netwerk uitkom weer18:54
Kerberook reg so18:55
Kilosdankie18:55
magespawnstill not quite getting why it would work like that though18:56
magespawnahh well hopefully understanding will come.18:59
Kilosnight guys. sleep tight19:01
Kilossee ya morrow19:01
magespawngood night all19:39
Cantidenight magespawn ^^19:39
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