[00:00] <ja-barr> forever as in....20 minutes?
[00:00] <Treaver> Yes, it usually doesn't take that long? :O
[00:01] <tethtibis> are you using the installer partitioner, or gparted before you started the install?
[00:02] <tethtibis> if it's the installer, 20 minutes is way too long, there may be an issue with your hard drive, if it's gparted, did you do some funky footwork with the partition setup you chose, or was it just basic?
[00:02] <Treaver> The installer is going slow it's like not responding to anything
[00:03] <PeanutPower> anyone here familar with ejabberd ?
[00:03] <tethtibis> if it's the installer, and you've tried multiple times, and it's still hanging, boot up a live cd or USB of the desktop version, use the disk utility and check the hard drive status, (smart data)
[00:03] <blackshirt> treaver, switch to other console and look some messages maybe help you
[00:03] <tethtibis> how much Ram is in the machine you are installing it on?
[00:04] <tethtibis> Sorry, PeanutPower, never heard of it.
[00:05] <tethtibis> Treaver, how much RAM is in the machine you are installing to, also, have you done the memory check to make sure it's good?
[00:06] <Treaver> 6GB Ram, 750GB Harddrive
[00:06] <Treaver> I am just gonna install over Windows
[00:06] <blackshirt> thats big enough
[00:06] <tethtibis> yeah, the amount of ram is certainly not the issue. :O/
[00:07] <escott> Treaver, under no circumstances interrupt a resize
[00:07] <Wug> ^
[00:07] <Wug> leave it till tomorrow morning
[00:07] <Treaver> Too late lol
[00:07] <tethtibis> I'd check the ram to make sure it's not throwing out bad bits, and check the harddrive or raid using the disk utility (smart data). it will tell you how healthy the drive is.
[00:07] <Treaver> I already stopped it I just gonna install 12.10 over it
[00:08] <blackshirt> treaver, using wubi
[00:08] <blackshirt> ?
[00:08] <escott> Treaver, whatever you were resizing is probably destroyed
[00:08] <Ben64> Treaver: 12.10 isn't final yet
[00:09] <devslash> i don't know if my hardware or 12.10 is the issue but i can't install it. its getting stuck at the same point every time
[00:11] <Smackbook1> i happen to have 2 wireless routers with some overlap as well as two wireless cards on my pc, would it be unheardof to to configure ubuntu to use both for parralellism and reliability?
[00:13] <xangua> !12.10 | devslash
[00:13] <tethtibis> nope, not unheard of at all. I use an internal wireless and a usb wireless on my laptop and bridge the connections together.
[00:13] <devslash> duly noted
[00:13] <genewitch> Smackbook1: er, name them the same thing with the same credentials on the same channel... then let networkmanager switch when it needs to
[00:14] <ubuntux> is there an easy way to install openoffice instead of libreoffice?
[00:15] <ubuntux> ±
[00:15] <karneisada> add this ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/office
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> ubuntux, Both share files, so you have to fully purge one to install the other, and to be honest libreoffice is more functinal I believe,
[00:15] <Smackbook1> genewitch: i was wondering if there was a way to send packets on both to double the throughput rate
[00:15] <agony> hi
[00:15] <zykotick9> Smackbook1: personally, i doubt you can have 2 simultanious "internet" connections, as an agragated feed - at the desktop level.  but best of luck.  i'm probably wrong...
[00:16] <karneisada> I just use libreoffice personally
[00:18] <escott> Smackbook1, you could try bonding them but the slowdown is going to be your ISP<->router connection unless you have fiber into your house
[00:21] <zykotick9> escott: i think wireless from router->device is a more likely slowdown myself.
[00:22] <Smackbook> escott: most of my traffic is media streaming
[00:22] <Smackbook> locally i mean
[00:23] <genewitch> Smackbook1: you want to freaking bond wifi links?
[00:23] <genewitch> what are you, MCI?
[00:24] <Smackbook> genewitch: heh iono
[00:25] <Smackbook> i will look into this
[00:25] <TJ-> Smackbook: you can bond 2 wifi interfaces
[00:28] <TJ-> Smackbook: see for starters https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[00:28] <Smackbook> great thanks
[00:28] <zykotick9> TJ-: thanks for the link
[00:28] <frenco92> galactik football italiano
[00:29] <TJ-> I've used it with long-range Wifi connections (> 4 miles)
[00:30] <escott> TJ-, how do you build the antenna for that
[00:31] <Codenomics> howdy
[00:31] <TJ-> escott: with great accuracy... different polarisations
[00:31] <Codenomics> got some questions... I used the Ubuntu Mini CD to install Ubuntu and just booted into it...
[00:32] <Codenomics> all I get is a CLI. I selected LXDE to be installed, but it looks like that didnt happen
[00:32] <zykotick9> Codenomics: try "startx"
[00:32] <TJ-> escott: yagi 'cantenna' and dish ... everything is about directing all the ERP to the receiver
[00:32] <Codenomics> if it did, it should boot and go into LXDE correct?
[00:32] <blackshirt> thats why called mini
[00:32] <Codenomics> zykotick9: tried that, command not found
[00:32] <TJ-> escott: and a big dish receiver to collect as much signal as possible
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Codenomics, with mini you do a basic install the desktop from the cli.
[00:33] <zykotick9> Codenomics: then see if xorg is installed.  did you install a DM of some sort (lightdm is ubuntu's default these days)?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> +1 on that
[00:33] <Codenomics> um...I chose the basic server install and LXDE but nothing else
[00:34] <Codenomics> Xorg is installe
[00:34] <Codenomics> d
[00:34] <zykotick9> Codenomics: startx should be a command then...
[00:34] <zykotick9> Codenomics: start<TAB><TAB> bring anything up?
[00:34] <Codenomics> zykotick9: one would think
[00:35] <Codenomics> that shows start, startpar, and start-stop-daemon
[00:35] <zykotick9> Codenomics: are you sure xorg is installed?  "apt-cache policy xorg"
[00:36] <TJ-> If LXDE was installed it ought to have gdm (or lightdm?) ?
[00:36] <Codenomics> unable to locate package Xorg
[00:36] <zykotick9> TJ-: depends on what the poster means by TJ-
[00:36] <Codenomics> oh wait...
[00:37] <zykotick9> TJ-: sorry "means by xfce"
[00:37] <Codenomics> I did Xorg, and not xorg...it says xorg is not installed
[00:37] <zykotick9> Codenomics: ding
[00:37] <TJ-> Codenomics: "apt-cache policy lxde"
[00:37] <Kelebra> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[00:37] <Codenomics> whoa too much... hold on lol
[00:38] <Kelebra> gnome-core xfonts-base
[00:38] <zykotick9> Kelebra: gnome-core?!?
[00:38] <Codenomics> no lxde either
[00:38] <TJ-> Codenomics: "sudo apt-get install lxde"
[00:38] <Codenomics> yup, on it now
[00:38] <Kelebra> apt-get install gnome-desktop-data
[00:39] <Kelebra> apt-get install xorg
[00:39] <zykotick9> Kelebra: if one is trying to install xfce, install gnome-desktop-ANYTHING is sort counter productive...
[00:39] <Kelebra> startx
[00:39] <Kelebra> mmm sorry
[00:39] <Codenomics> is lxde any lighter than lxde?
[00:39] <Kelebra> try install xfce-desktop
[00:39] <Codenomics> havent used lxde in a good while
[00:40] <zykotick9> Kelebra: the OP wanted lxde, MY bad.
[00:40] <Codenomics> the OP just wants a GUI lol
[00:40] <Codenomics> just something nice and light with the least amount of resources being used
[00:40] <TJ-> A gooey lol ? :p
[00:40] <Codenomics> ?
[00:40] <tethtibis> Codenomics, I assume you mean "is lxde lighter than Xfce?" if so, than yes, it is, but also is missing a lot of features Xfce has.
[00:41]  * wilee-nilee laughs at the pile on of helpers
[00:41] <Codenomics> tethtibis: oooh, yeah, that is what I meant
[00:41] <tethtibis> Codenomics, try ZorinOS, it runs gnome, beutifully on less than 512 megs of ram and a 1 gig single core processor.
[00:41] <anonymous> helo
[00:42] <Codenomics> tethtibis: I am not really concerned about features considering this is going to be a media center and all I really need is to get a few basic apps running and XBMC
[00:42] <zykotick9> Codenomics: KDE uses servious resources, then Gnome, then xfce (similar to gnome2 resources), then lxde, then the windows managers - as far as resource use.
[00:42] <Codenomics> yeah... I stay far away from KDE
[00:42] <tethtibis> i think openbox uses less than lxde, but it's a pain to configure if you've never used it before.
[00:43] <zykotick9> tethtibis: any *box uses less then lxde, BUT lxde is a desktop environment, the WM are not.
[00:43] <Codenomics> I will just stick with lxde for now
[00:43] <tethtibis> Codenomics, give DSL (Damn small linux) then, it uses rediculously low resources.
[00:43] <zykotick9> tethtibis: for a media box, that would be silly.
[00:44] <Kelebra> see ya soon
[00:44] <tethtibis> zykotick9 you have a good point. :OP
[00:44] <Kelebra> I have to go ...
[00:44] <lizzin> what's a good free app for creating a playable dvd from an mp4/mkv file?
[00:44] <Codenomics> tethtibis: it isnt *that* big of a deal, I have a dual core with 2GB or RAM so I dont need insane amount of minimalism lol
[00:44] <Kelebra> Is nice to see you.
[00:44] <tethtibis> lizzin brasero works just fine.
[00:45] <lizzin> tethtibis: ok, thank you
[00:45] <karneisada> code: i'm using xubuntu on a netbook and it runs great
[00:45] <Codenomics> wish I could just run this stuff from CLI, things run so much smoother
[00:45] <Codenomics> I am not going to go and download/burn a new iso just for this lol
[00:46] <Codenomics> again, I have a decent machine so it isnt all that big of a deal
[00:46] <zykotick9> Codenomics: 2GB seems small to me (personally) i only have 4GB ;)  but i wish i had much more.  my netbook only has a 1 GB though, and i'm always amazed what it can do ;)  i run VERY minimal GUI's on both systems...
[00:47] <Codenomics> 2GB isnt anything impressive granted... but it works for what I need
[00:47] <Codenomics> downloading and running a media center with FTP functionality
[00:50] <Codenomics> ok lxde is installed
[00:50] <zykotick9> Codenomics: fyi, for media centers i use both mythtv (for recording my tv) and freevo for playback of movies/tv/music on my htpc (but that's only cause of stability!)  xbmc has hella feature-set, but i had way too many crashes :(  i'm not a fan of myth's music features, but it's recording tv is amazing.  fyi, i use handbrake to encode all my shows to m4v/mp4.  good luck with your htpc install.
[00:51] <dr_willis> Openelec and GeexBOX are also nice Media Center Specific Small Sized Disrtos
[00:52] <dr_willis> XBMC and Boxee are also nice. ;)
[00:54] <penguinmessiah> hai
[00:54] <penguinmessiah> i need a suggested wireless card that you can buy on tiger or new egg
[00:54] <penguinmessiah> that will plug and play
[00:55] <tethtibis> seriously, anything "netgear"
[00:55] <penguinmessiah> really?
[00:55] <tethtibis> every netgear usb wireless device I've ever touched worked out of the bok on ubuntu.
[00:55] <tethtibis> *box*
[00:55] <penguinmessiah> eek i wana use pci
[00:56] <tethtibis> hrm, no idea then, lol sorry, but I'd still try a netgear or "logitech" if they make such a thing.
[00:56] <penguinmessiah> linksey?
[00:57] <randomDude1> for some  reason, the width of my pidgin buddy list is quite large and won't allow me to resize it to a smaller width.
[00:57] <tethtibis> linksys is hit and miss, honestly in my opinion. one sec, let me find you a hardware list.
[00:57] <escott> penguinmessiah, best to look at the chipset itself. i've always like atheros
[00:57] <penguinmessiah> ah okay darn chipsets
[00:57] <Codenomics> zykotick9: I use XBMC. I really dig it so far
[00:58] <penguinmessiah> codenomics, i prefer boxee
[00:58] <Codenomics> oh and startx is still not working
[00:58] <zykotick9> Codenomics: OH how i wish it was stable for me!  YMMV.  good luck.
[00:58] <tethtibis> penguinmessiah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:58] <Codenomics> XBMC is stable as can be for me
[00:59] <Codenomics> ok, so I am stuck and cant startx lol
[01:00] <zykotick9> Codenomics: fyi the packages xorg and lxde SHOULD give you startx (it might not, and that's funny).
[01:00] <farrioth> Hi all.  After a release upgrade from lucid to precise, I find that gnome-power-manager no longer provides a system tray icon.  Is there an alternate package (eg. for kde) which does?
[01:00] <penguinmessiah> zoorg think penguin is expensive, if i buy one i might as well go with the triband, but i only have 1 really good wifi antenna :|
[01:00] <zykotick9> Codenomics: find out what lubuntu uses as a DM and install that.
[01:02] <custom_> Codenomics,    I did an install as you did last week     xinit    was not installed by default in my case
[01:03] <zykotick9> Codenomics: based on what custom_ added, i think both of you should report a bug ;)
[01:04] <Codenomics> should I reboot and see well... if I get my computer working I just might do that lol
[01:04] <Codenomics> forgot to install xorg lol
[01:04]  * Codenomics hangs head in shame
[01:05] <nbastin> My installer is complaining that my mirror doesn't support the specified release (oneiric) - the problem is my mirror is us.archive.ubuntu.com, and it looks just fine...
[01:05] <Codenomics> been using linux for so long, I should know this stuff by now
[01:06] <Codenomics> \o/
[01:06] <Codenomics> working... thanks for the help. going to kill irssi now
[01:10] <sgtluax> any of you use ncmpcpp?
[01:10] <totido> i have it installed
[01:10] <totido> sgtluax: having problems with it?
[01:10] <sgtluax> how the hell do i add music to it
[01:11] <totido> i dont know... didnt use it much.
[01:11] <sgtluax> oh well
[01:12] <totido> i will invest some time to learn it... i wonder if someone has published a book about it ;D
[01:13] <sgtluax> every manual I find, asumes that a you're a god with the terminal
[01:13] <totido> if u r not, why do you want to use it?
[01:14] <sgtluax> just basic stuff I guess, compile from source but that's it
[01:14] <zykotick9> !manual | totido
[01:15] <totido> zykotick9, ?
[01:16] <zykotick9> totido (although you're already gone).  sorry, wrong nick.
[01:16] <nbastin> why is apt-cacher-ng such a piece of crap...
[01:17] <zykotick9> nbastin: side note, i stopped using apt-cacher-ng and switched to apt-cacher (but still have occasional issue!), BUT apt-cacher only supports on distro at a time.
[01:17] <zykotick9> s/on/one/ ;)
[01:18] <nbastin> zykotick9: bah, that doesn't really work either...maybe I should look into writing something...apt-cacher-ng seems to corrupt files a lot, and doesn't recover from failure ever
[01:18] <TJ-> sgtluax: From what I read on the man-page, ncmpcpp is a client. The music library is configured in the MPD server
[01:19] <zykotick9> nbastin: i always ran into issues where apt-cacher-ng would stop giving updates to clients...
[01:19] <nbastin> zykotick9: thanks for the advice though, I might switch to apt-cacher for the moment (maybe put them on different ports per distro?)
[01:19] <zykotick9> nbastin: fyi, they're different!  client has different port/style address!  pita they're not the same.
[01:19] <Guest44162> hello
[01:22] <TJ-> nbastin: I've been running apt-cacher-ng without issues for a year or more; what kind of issues are you getting?
[01:23] <nbastin> TJ-: mostly it serves up corrupt files, but it also gets wedged and doesn't respond to requests at all until it's restarted
[01:24] <nbastin> TJ-: we run a *lot* of apt-cacher-ng instances for VM installs, etc., and they all have these problems
[01:25] <nbastin> TJ-: and if you look around on the internet you see tons of other people with the same problems and they just fix it by blowing away the cache, which sortof defeats the point
[01:25] <gregw> hi can anybody answer some questions about a wubi install.  I want to do a fresh install (having done upgrades from about 10.04), but the first question wubi is asking is : "are you sure you want to uninstall ubuntu?"    Will this delete my /home/myuser directory?   I'm fine with /usr being totally replaced but want to avoid having to recover /home/myuser from backup.
[01:25] <zykotick9> nbastin: that's exactly what i used to do.  delete the cache and start again.
[01:29] <TJ-> nbastin: Where's the analysis of what is causing it though? Whenever I hit issues its 1) logs 2) tracing then 3) -debug packages and gdb
[01:31] <kuhwallskee> Hello! I'm having an issue when my laptop suspends or the screen blanks out, is there any way just to disable that os I can keep goin?
[01:32] <puppy_parade> why does the video glitch and then go black whenever I make my totem window above a certain size?
[01:32] <puppy_parade> This happens after my machine has been up for a while
[01:36] <puppy_parade> okay, I guess I'll have to reboot it as often as a windows machine.
[01:37] <L3top> puppy_parade: totem is a gstream player. The length of time your system is "up" should make absolutely no difference. Totem is either doing something, or it isnt. Chances are it has more to do with what is going on in the background than the time "up".
[01:38] <puppy_parade> right, but rebooting fixes it.
[01:38] <L3top> puppy_parade: I would immediately look at flash to blame.
[01:38] <puppy_parade> but, I'm not playing flash
[01:38] <L3top> yes... again... keep your machine up for a week... then close EVERYTHING else... and try.
[01:38] <puppy_parade> it's h.264 inside mkv
[01:38] <L3top> puppy_parade: if you have a web page open... in the background... chances are.. you are using flash.
[01:39] <puppy_parade> why would that interfere with playing a video?
[01:39] <L3top> This is not the forum to explain "why". It is my guess as to a cause.
[01:40] <L3top> Flash on linux is... problematic... on a number of levels
[01:40] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: Probably a compositing issue. Graphical related. Most of the weird freezing type bugs I have had in the past have been. Try a different window manager to test and see if you still have issues
[01:40] <puppy_parade> killing the browser did it.
[01:40] <puppy_parade> thanks L3top
[01:40] <L3top> tadaa
[01:41] <puppy_parade> bobo37773, is it a compiz thing?
[01:41] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: Possibly. Do you run compiz?
[01:41] <puppy_parade> unity runs on top of compiz. right?
[01:41] <L3top> flash + compiz = eternal struggle
[01:41] <L3top> yes
[01:41]  * puppy_parade sighs.
[01:42] <L3top> I know... I am with you brother.
[01:42] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: try something light like openbox and see if you still experience any freezing issues and then you will know for sure
[01:42]  * puppy_parade goes off to see what progess wayland has made.
[01:42] <zykotick9> L3top: <ot> that "f + c = e.s." was really good </ot>
[01:42] <puppy_parade> but I like unity
[01:42] <puppy_parade> =(
[01:43] <L3top> I have some issues with compiz... but they pale in comparison to my issues with adobe. Blame lies in flash.
[01:43] <L3top> esp on nvidia.
[01:44] <puppy_parade> outside their drivers?
[01:44] <puppy_parade> I am running a radeon
[01:44] <bobo37773> puppy_parade: Just to test to find out. If the problem is with flash then it may still be graphically related. Try the newer chrome builds with pepperflash and see if that helps
[01:45] <codenomics> yo
[01:45] <puppy_parade> I used to run chrome, but it was doing something wrong and I chromium fixed it, but I forgot what it was
[01:45] <puppy_parade> it might have been flash...
[01:45] <codenomics> got another issue (of my own ignorance) that I need a hand with if possible...
[01:45] <codenomics> isntalled ubuntu mini and need to get audio working
[01:46] <zykotick9> codenomics: typically, installing a program that needs audio pulls in a working sound system.  what does alsamixer say?
[01:47] <codenomics> havent talked to it yet...
[01:47] <codenomics> bad joke. I know.
[01:48] <codenomics> zykotick9: there is no also mixer that I can find...
[01:48] <bobo37773> codenomics: type alsamixer in a terminal and see if any of them say [M] on the bottom (means muted)
[01:48] <zykotick9> codenomics: alsamixer  - notice the mulpitle a, but no o
[01:48] <codenomics> wow... I said "also mixer" that was a typo
[01:49] <codenomics> there is no alsamixer
[01:49] <zykotick9> codenomics: ;) i don't think you have sound installed
[01:49] <codenomics> neither do i. seems like a lot more is missign than I expected
[01:50] <zykotick9> codenomics: FYI mini starts from NOTHING (if that's what you selected)
[01:50] <codenomics> zykotick9: I selected things... they aparently didnt install
[01:51] <codenomics> installing the alsa-utils right now
[01:51] <zykotick9> codenomics: i've developed long install lists for apt-get, then batch files - for installing my desired system from a mini/netinstall-like cd ;)
[01:51] <codenomics> I like that idea actually
[01:52] <OerHeks> codemaniac, did you install lxde or lubuntu-desktop?
[01:52] <codenomics> lxde
[01:52] <psusi> the mini iso is a misnomer... it is more correctly called the netinst cd... it is not for installing a minimal ubuntu, but rather is a minimal size cd, which then downloads everything needed for the actual installation
[01:53] <zykotick9> codenomics: fyi anything *-desktop in ubuntu brings in a LOT of stuff.  not core to the DE being used.
[01:53] <OerHeks> lubuntu-desktop is the complete metapackage
[01:53] <zykotick9> psusi: ubuntu calls in mini, debian calls it netinstall - no misnomer.
[01:53] <codenomics> yeah I figured
[01:53] <codenomics> I dont want the complete package
[01:53] <psusi> zykotick9, it's a misnomer because it makes people think it is for installing a minimal system, rather than what it really is; a net inst
[01:54] <codenomics> that is why I grabbed this installer
[01:54] <Smackbook> i'm trying to get my hdmi audio out working, when I go into system settings > sound settings and choose the right settings for my hdmi chip on the hardware tab, I can test the left and right and hear the test voice, but none of the system sounds are being routed through there.  when I go into also mixer and select the hdmi sound chip it shows spdif [,1,2] they all have 00 (not MM) but no volume bars (nothing happens when i press up and d
[01:54] <zykotick9> psusi: it IS for installing a minimal system (only option to do that).  BUT it can ALSO install ANYTHING else you want in ubuntu-world ;)
[01:54] <Smackbook> s/also mixer/alsamixer
[01:55] <psusi> zykotick9, the only difference between it and the regular server/alternate installer is that the cd doesn't come with a number of packages already on it, so they have to be downloaded
[01:55] <psusi> it doesn't give any more of a minimal system than those do
[01:55] <codenomics> audio is working yay
[01:55] <zykotick9> psusi: i actually prefer ubuntu's mini, to debian-netinstall (and trust me, that says a lot) - but ubuntu has so many cool options: server, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.  it's a really cool feature.
[01:56] <codenomics> zykotick9: none of which worked when I selected them
[01:56] <zykotick9> codenomics: i don't think you selected things correctly during install.
[01:57] <codenomics> highlight option, hit spacebar...
[01:57] <codenomics> it shows an X and then you hit enter to continue
[01:57] <codenomics> unless I missed something there
[02:03] <zykotick9> psusi: fyi, if you install from mini and select nothing during tasksel, then you get a bare-bones "ubuntu" system.  where you can install only the packages that you want, and if you avoid the big ubuntu-metapackages (anything-desktop named) you can have a very "light" ubuntu ;)  BUT it can't update from version number to version number without at least one -desktop :(
[02:03] <fewqradw> is there any sort of auto login script for wifi that gets through most wifi spots that require an HTTP login
[02:06] <jrib> fewqradw: I don't know, but they're pretty trivial to write using one of the mechanize libraries (python has one for example)
[02:10] <Datz> HI, what should I do about my acer aspire one touchpad right mouse click not working?
[02:10] <Datz> it works when I boot to win, but not with ubuntu
[02:11] <Datz> it seems to work as a left click
[02:11] <Datz> when it should be a right click
[02:11] <Datz> When I attach an external mouse, everything works fine
[02:12] <Treaver> Hello guys, I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on my Desktop. I got the windows wireless drivers to work not I'm having trouble with the graphics. For one there are 4 Propreity drivers and I don't know which to use. For 2 when I start up my computer it gives me some error that the screen resolution needs to be changed. Can anyone help me fix this?
[02:13] <ChesterX> hey everybody, does anyone know how much time it will take before 12.10 comes out stable?
[02:13] <Daekdroom> !quantal | ChesterX
[02:14] <Daekdroom> ChesterX, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[02:14] <ChesterX> thanks :-)
[02:14] <Treaver> !quantal | Treaver
[02:15] <decci> hi
[02:15] <Datz> Oh right, I forgot to say I was using 12.04
[02:24] <LennyKitty> How can I find out why I cant upgrade because of broken packages
[02:27] <LordOfTime> other than network-manager, what else on a server would rewrite resolv.conf?
[02:27] <LordOfTime> (CLI only server)
[02:28] <treaver> I need help bad now like literally life or death here
[02:29] <treaver> My computer has ubuntu 12.04 installed on it but I installed a propeitry driver or something
[02:29] <treaver> Now the computer won't even start up
[02:29] <treaver> Is there a way I can enter a recovery menu?
[02:29] <panda__42> so many people
[02:29] <treaver> can anyone help me?
[02:30] <panda__42> i don't know
[02:30] <RobbyF> treaver, what do you mean wont start up?
[02:31] <treaver> When I turn it on after the restart :::
[02:31] <treaver> It boots to the Emachine sscreen
[02:31] <treaver> Then it says
[02:31] <treaver> "Input signal out of range change settings to 1600x900 = 60hz"
[02:31] <RobbyF> ok
[02:32] <RobbyF> so you have driver issues.
[02:32] <RobbyF> press ctl + alt + f1
[02:32] <RobbyF> it should give you a command prompt depending where you are.
[02:32] <RobbyF> or you'll have to go into safe mode with networking in order to redo your graphics.
[02:33] <treaver> How do I do that
[02:33] <treaver> alt f1 didn't do anything
[02:33] <[x]> RobbyF: how to change host in irc ?
[02:33] <Datz> So I have this problem where my netbook's touchpad's right click acts as a left click. Can someone point me in the right direction.
[02:33] <treaver> How do I boot into safe mode
[02:33] <RobbyF> not sure.
[02:34] <RobbyF> [x], freenode.net might help ya
[02:34] <RobbyF> treaver, I take it you get to the bootloader menu?
[02:34] <[x]> [x]!x@x.org
[02:34] <treaver> No I don't I get the black screen with white rectangle that shows the stuff
[02:34] <treaver> Oh wait now I get this the system is runnning in low-graphics mode
[02:35] <treaver> What do I do?
[02:35] <[x]> [x]!x@freenode.net
[02:35] <RobbyF> update your graphics
[02:35] <treaver> How
[02:35] <RobbyF> what type of video card
[02:37] <treaver> I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me what's wrong :P Maybe call me or something
 what type of video card
[02:37] <treaver> Nivida
[02:37] <LennyKitty> Hey, im attempting to upgrade ubuntu but it tells me I have broken packages, how can I fix this?
[02:37] <RobbyF> k
[02:38] <jc__> hi guys, there's a software that allow me to record from my web-cam, but i need to record every 30 secs
[02:38] <RobbyF> 1) try google, it will walk you through it. but instead, i'll google for you.
[02:38] <webfox> I have a process called plugin-containe and it is constantly using about 40% of my machine processor. Besides my machine is very hot. My question about this process, is it important to have it running, who uses it? Could someone help me figure it please?
[02:38] <zykotick9> LennyKitty: see what "sudo apt-get -f install" is breaking on, and try and fix that package situation.
[02:38] <RobbyF> treaver, have a look here: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[02:38] <RobbyF> it's what i use
[02:39] <dundee> Hi guys, Anyone knows why login takes so long on ubuntu 12.04? It used to be faster, then suddenly it takes some time to show my icons.
[02:39] <treaver> ??
[02:39] <RobbyF> dundee, probably a unity issue, should be fixed in the new update for 12.04
[02:40] <RobbyF> 12.10*
[02:40] <treaver> My computer won't even start
[02:40] <RobbyF> yes it will treaver.
[02:40] <treaver> How can I get it to start then
[02:40] <dundee> ok. I guess I should wait on 12.10, or should I update to the Beta?
[02:41] <RobbyF> it is starting. :) your display isn't working correctly.
[02:41] <RobbyF> I've told you what to do already.
[02:41] <LennyKitty> zykotick9: not breaking
[02:41] <treaver> No how do I do it exactly, I'm not good with this
[02:41] <RobbyF> dundee, I would wait for the stable.
[02:41] <dundee> ok thanks.
[02:42] <RobbyF> treaver, I dont know the exact instructions, but the link i gave you should be helpful. try googling - reinstalling drivers from safe mode.
[02:42] <treaver> How do I enter safe mode?
[02:42] <RobbyF> google it
[02:42] <zykotick9> LennyKitty: did it install stuff?  if so retry your upgrade.  fyi, good luck with upgrading - expect issues...
[02:42] <bazhang> RobbyF, never recommend that here. ever.
[02:43] <LennyKitty> zykotick9: no it didnt, but im gonna try it again
[02:43] <RobbyF> sorry.
[02:44] <RobbyF> treaver, when you boot the machine, you have a selectable option to choose safemode.
[02:44] <treaver> No I don't
[02:45] <treaver> It boots to black screen after the Emachines
[02:45] <dundee> by the way could my login taking too long be affected by the fact that I have kubuntu-desktop installed too?
[02:46] <RobbyF> you said before you had low graphics mode?
[02:46] <treaver> It is telling me it's running in low graphics mode now
[02:46] <RobbyF> dundee, possible. but I doubt it. what is 'too long' in terms of time vs your hardware specs.
[02:46] <treaver> I clicked ok
[02:47] <treaver> What would you like to do? run in low-graphics mode for just one session (tried it doens't work) reconfigure graphics (Does nothing) Trouble shoot the error (Gives me a log of useless stuff) Exit to console login (gives me white screen again)
[02:47] <treaver> I tried all options
[02:47] <dundee> Hardware specs ok, 4gb Ram, Dual Core. Time is about 2 mins after I enter my password
[02:49] <RobbyF> dundee, from my experience, that does sound quit long. an older hard drive running bad maybe?
[02:49] <treaver> I will try to install Ubuntu 12.10 again.. Damn when I install this on laptops it works perfectly...
[02:51] <Datz> So I have this problem where my netbook's touchpad's right click acts as a left click. Can someone point me in the right direction.
[02:51] <overclucker> treaver: it's probably a recoverable error, have you tried rebooting into recovery mode? you may need to hold down shift on boot for the menu to pop up
[02:52] <RobbyF> Datz, just taking a guess here, but which netbook? I read that netbook support isn't the greatest.
[02:52] <Datz> it's the acer inspire one
[02:52] <Datz> when I use the mouse, all's well, when I boot to win7, all's well
[02:53] <Datz> I guess there is something wrong with the driver
[02:53] <Datz> too bad the right click is pretty useful
[02:54] <RobbyF> Datz, ubuntu 12.04?
[02:54] <Datz> RobbyF: indeedy
[02:54] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[02:55] <danno_> is there anyone on that might be able to walk me through how to set up a squid proxy? I just want to be able to remotely connect to the internet using squid as a proxy. My workplace blocks many sites I need access to
[02:56] <RobbyF> Datz, not sure sorry. but I found this - suggesting its an xserver issue - http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/30/installing-ubuntu-12-04-lts-in-acer-aspire-one-d255e-netbook/
[02:59] <overclucker> RobbyF: try synclient -l
[03:00] <overclucker> Datz: actually, i'll just give you the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2048226
[03:02] <blackshirt> how we can search a package come from specific repository ?
[03:02] <overclucker> Datz: oh, i forgot to ask if you have buttons or if it's just part of the touchpad
[03:02] <Datz> overclucker: it's just part of the touchpad
[03:03] <Datz> overclucker: thanks, I'll have to look into that
[03:03] <Datz> thanks RobbyF
[03:05] <blackshirt> how we can search a package come from specific repository ?
[03:06] <Stanley00> blackshirt: you can use synaptic for that.
[03:07] <blackshirt> Stanley00: i'm not gui environment, i'm on cli mode
[03:08] <Stanley00> blackshirt: hmm, I don't know how to do that with cli, but why do you need that?
[03:09] <pibarnas> blackshirt: sudo apt-cache search?
[03:10] <Stanley00> blackshirt: how about this "cat /var/lib/apt/lists/(repo name)_Packages |grep Package"
[03:10] <blackshirt> Stanley00: wait a minute
[03:12] <ChesterX> hello everyboy, how can i connect to a local database whose url is //168.192.1.111?
[03:12] <ChesterX> i can t access it with my internet explorer and i believe i need to use the file explorer somehow
[03:12] <somsip> ChesterX: it's likely to be 192.168.1.111
[03:12] <Datz> that's going to depend on the protocol and interface
[03:12] <ChesterX> any suggestions?
[03:12] <Datz> oh yea
[03:12] <ChesterX> well i tried and it didn t send me to the appropriate domain
[03:13] <Datz> may not be able to access it locally then
[03:13] <somsip> ChesterX: 168.X.X.X is not a range I recognise for local networks, whereas 192.X.X.X is
[03:13] <Datz> yea, that too
[03:14] <somsip> ChesterX: and if it isn't runniong a web server, you wont get anything in IE
[03:14] <somsip> ChesterX: and why are you running IE and asking questions in #ubuntu??
[03:14] <ChesterX> i am not running ie
[03:14] <somsip> ChesterX: ChesterX> i can t access it with my internet explorer
[03:15] <ChesterX> an internet explorer => ff or chrome etc
[03:15] <somsip> ChesterX: it's called a browser. Anyway...
[03:17] <Samus> test
[03:17] <somsip> !test | Samus
[03:17] <Samus> #test
[03:18] <somsip> Samus: /join #test
[03:20] <overclucker> blackshirt: aptitude search '~Aprecise~daptitude'
[03:21] <tripelb> my diskimage .iso "has no checsum information to verify"
[03:22] <Treaver> Can someone explain to me when Propitiatory Driver I should use?
[03:22] <tripelb> on a macfolloing directions in community's page
[03:22] <overclucker> Treaver: when to use proprietary?
[03:23] <Treaver> Well that and which I should use
[03:24] <BlackWeb> Just wondering I've been using SSH, & my main concern is that say I ssh into a remote server and start a file transfer to the remote system, but if i close the ssh window on my local machine it will stop the transfer, Is there anyway to start a task on a remote server using ssh and not have to leave the current system up and running?
[03:24] <somsip> !screen | BlackWeb
[03:25] <somsip> BlackWeb: so you start screen on the server, connect to it through ssh, run commands on it, and detach from it. It carries on
[03:25] <Treaver> !Proprietary
[03:25] <somsip> BlackWeb: also, byobu and tmux
[03:25] <Treaver> !proprietary
[03:25] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll look into that Thanks :)
[03:25] <somsip> BlackWeb: np
[03:26] <Treaver> !nivida
[03:26] <overclucker> Treaver: if you want to do gaming or something a proprietary driver might help, or if the driver linux provides isn't working
[03:27] <Treaver> So proprietary drivers are not needed?
[03:27] <overclucker> Treaver: nope
[03:27] <Treaver> Hmm
[03:27] <Treaver> Ok, now if I want to install a proprietary driver which one do I choose
[03:29] <tripelb> solved I have another bad image.  wifi hotspots torrent..  2ND BAD IMAGE any suggestions?
[03:29] <somsip> Treaver: for nvidia? nvidia-current is probaby recommended
[03:30] <fbernier> Hi, im trying to set a custom path to a .desktop launcher but the app just won't launch. What am I doing wrong?
[03:30] <fbernier> Exec=env PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.rvm/bin gvim -f %F
[03:30] <Treaver> Ok now when I installed that before it gave me this screen on startup that said
[03:30] <Treaver> Input signal out of reach change settings to 1800x900
[03:31] <Asphyxium> Can anyone please tell me if Ubuntu 9.10 supports changing the refresh rate through the display window or if I have to download version 8?
[03:32] <overclucker> Treaver: you might need to modify your monitor settings in the Xorg.conf file.
[03:32] <somsip> Asphyxium: 9.10 support ended Apr 2011
[03:33] <Asphyxium> But does anyone remember?  I'm trying to find a non-Unity desktop which supports GUI modification of the refresh rate.
[03:33] <Asphyxium> I know version 8 does but I want the newest one possible
[03:34] <Asphyxium> The problem is my Internet connection.  It transfers at only 92 kilobytes a second, thus a 700 MB download is a big deal for me.
[03:35] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to use pidgin with google talk. the options to do a video/voice call are grayed out. Any suggestions?
[03:35] <Kelev> hola
[03:36] <Kelev> hola
[03:36] <Kelebra> hola
[03:37] <Kelev> exit
[03:38] <fuzz01> Anyone know how to get the dash to hide and unhide automatically
[03:38] <Asphyxium> Give it Mountain Dew
[03:38] <Asphyxium> j/k
[03:38] <Asphyxium> I have no idea
[03:38] <overclucker> Asphyxium: it's too bad ubuntu doesn't ship free cds anymore, that was really helpful for a lot of people. can you download it to a usb drive at a library or somewhere with high speed internet?
[03:39] <eset> hi
[03:39] <Asphyxium> I could try the library but they charge and probably have a T1 line that's tied up
[03:39] <eset> search help
[03:39] <Asphyxium> I live in a less affluent town
[03:39] <eset> i am from colombia
[03:40] <Asphyxium> Nice name
[03:40] <Asphyxium> Thanks for trying oc
[03:40] <eset> help an install operation7 in xubuntu
[03:42] <overclucker> Asphyxium: you can set refresh rate in xorg.conf, but it makes me sad taht you are stuck with 9.10 )-;
[03:45] <sdw195> hey,  my friend installed the latest ubuntu on his old notebook and cant get the wifi to work, i had the same issue a while ago and used a command in the terminal to fix it, any ideas on what it might be?
[03:47] <overclucker> sdw195: was modprobe?
[03:47] <sdw195> modprobe?
[03:50] <overclucker> sdw195: used to load kernel modules. do you see the device listed in network-manager?
[03:51] <BlackWeb> somsip are you still on
[03:51] <sdw195> do have access to the pc, he emailed me from his xp boot
[03:52] <somsip> BlackWeb: yes
[03:55] <BlackWeb> Alright, nvm I think i figured it out, So i went ahead and tried screen using SCP then it executed it, then it brought me back to the command prompt and I executed screen -ls and see the process now, so do i have to first detach from it before i close out ssh
[03:56] <sdw195> dont not do, sorry
[03:57] <BlackWeb> Then when i reattach is there away to see the progress of the scp
[03:58] <somsip> BlackWeb: first, I don't use screen. I can only give advice in the context of tmux. With tmux, it's always running on my servers. I connect to the servers with  something like 'autossh {ssh-alias} -t tmux a' so it reattaches to the running tmux session automatically. If I run a long script, like a DB dump, I detach from tmux with CTRL-B D, and that drops to my terminal. If I connect again, it reattaches to the same session so I can s
[04:00] <fuzz01> quit
[04:00] <somsip> BlackWeb: in short, you need to reattach the to running session of screen. I'd use 'tmux a'. Screen will have something similar
[04:01] <BlackWeb> Alright, I'll try out tmux, cause ya I went ahead and reattached to the process and it just appears as attached but no progress indicator is shown
[04:01] <BlackWeb> for the scp command
[04:01] <somsip> BlackWeb: you might have created a new session instead of reattching to an existing one.
[04:01] <somsip> BlackWeb: And I wouldn't say tmux is bette.r IT's just the one I decided on for reasons lost in memory...
[04:02] <kiwi_3063> 'screen -x' to reattach to an existing screen session
[04:02] <kiwi_3063> 'secreen -r' to specify a specific screne instance if you have multiple detached
[04:03] <BlackWeb> alright I'll mess around with it a little more, cause ya it shows that I've reattached to the processID but not sure how so see the progress indicator for SCP
[04:04] <somsip> BlackWeb: it shiould just show like a terminal window. But kiwi_3063 seems to knwo about screen so maybe he can take over with help?
[04:04] <kiwi_3063> im just about to leave sorry, just thought id chip in there :p
[04:04] <BlackWeb> Alright its cool,
[04:04] <somsip> BlackWeb: any chance you have two sessions running and connected to the wrong one?
[04:05] <waco001> hello
[04:05] <waco001> hey i gotta question....
[04:05] <BlackWeb> Right now it looks just like a regular terminal window, & when i list the process by screen -ls then it shows me as attached, but is there anyway to see the progress of the process
[04:06] <BlackWeb> There is a screen on:
[04:06] <BlackWeb>         1878.pts-1.SWORD        (10/07/2012 09:50:41 PM)        (Attached)
[04:06] <BlackWeb> 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-infinity.
[04:06] <BlackWeb> Thats what i get when I type screen -ls
[04:06] <somsip> BlackWeb: it should look like a normal ssh/terminal. The same as it was when you detached
[04:06] <BlackWeb> ya it does
[04:06] <BlackWeb> is there a way to see the progress of the scp command I executed
[04:06] <somsip> BlackWeb: but it should show the last commands you enetered, which I guess should include the scp
[04:07] <waco001> can someone help me install ubuntu alongisde windows 7
[04:08] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll see if I can figure it out,
[04:09] <somsip> BlackWeb: the only other thing I suggest is detach from screen and screen -ls to make sure you just have one running. Kill the other if there is one, or connect to the one that was running scp using the screen -r command suggested by kiwi_3063
[04:10] <BlackWeb> Alright, I'll give that a try, Thanks for all the Help :)
[04:10] <TekStakLT> waco001 - I just followed this tutorial about an hour ago and it went very smoothly. I'm no where near an expert, but have used this to dual boot several times
[04:10] <somsip> BlackWeb: np.
[04:10] <TekStakLT> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[04:12] <Aravoth> someone give me an ecuse to abndon windos forever please
[04:13] <waco001> ok thx tek ill try it
[04:14] <bobo37773> Aravoth: They are watching you.
[04:14] <TekStakLT> lol
[04:15] <waco001> harikt
[04:15] <harikt> yes waco001
[04:15] <waco001> banglore aweseome
[04:17] <harikt> so you are at Bangalore now ?
[04:21] <Aravoth> my wife was screwing around on my computer, for some reason my windows install was 85gb
[04:22] <tr1ppy> #backtrack-linux
[04:23] <bobo37773> tr1ppy: trying to join another channel??
[04:23] <tr1ppy> yes
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, /j #backtrack-linux
[04:23] <tr1ppy> idk how
[04:23] <tr1ppy> im banned
[04:23] <tr1ppy> for some reason
[04:23] <tr1ppy> i heard if your user is root you get banned
[04:23] <tr1ppy> but i changed it
[04:24] <tr1ppy> im trying to configure my mic
[04:24] <tr1ppy> it dont work
[04:24] <bobo37773> tr1ppy: it's like this-->      /join #channelname
[04:24] <tr1ppy> yeah im banned
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, You have to be registered for that channel.
[04:25] <tr1ppy> how do you register?
[04:25] <somsip> !register | tr1ppy
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, Are you still root or using that as a user name?
[04:29] <tr1ppy> idk
[04:29] <tr1ppy> do you have skype?
[04:29] <tr1ppy> i cant figure it out lol
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, To be honest you might be over your head with backtrack it has specific uses, none of which include having it actually installed on a computer intrinsically, it is a pen OS for IT use at best.
[04:31] <tr1ppy> i know
[04:31] <tr1ppy> its for fun
[04:31] <tr1ppy> i have everythign set up
[04:31] <tr1ppy> just not my mic
[04:31] <tr1ppy> and irc
[04:32] <bazhang> !enter | tr1ppy
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> tr1ppy, I don't pm and have added you to ignore as of now.
[04:32] <somsip> bazhang: it's a backtrack support issue
[04:32] <tr1ppy> whats that mean?
[04:32] <bazhang> tr1ppy, backtrack is not supported here
[04:32] <tr1ppy> i know
[04:32] <tr1ppy> its ubuntu though cant deny that
[04:32] <bazhang> tr1ppy, so stop asking for support
[04:33] <tr1ppy> its still ubuntu
[04:33] <tr1ppy> its the same thing
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> would it be safe to remove zeitgeist?
[04:35] <bobo37773> tr1ppy: No backtrack is much more insecure actually. Anyone who is using backtrack outside of it being a livecd and without either a) creating a regular user and / or b) creating a chroot jail should not use it at all. Just install a version of a mainstream distro and port over the tools you need.
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> +1 you said it, and so many try it out, lol
[04:37] <bobo37773> It's okay. No one ever listens. Always have to learn the hard way ;)
[04:39] <saquib> :)
[04:45] <asilhouette> Hi everyone
[04:46] <bobo37773> So the new unity interface. Can it run other window managers inside it like the old --replace?
[04:46] <bobo37773> asilhouette: Hey
[04:46] <asilhouette> i've been having trouble with BADSIG problem during update
[04:46] <asilhouette> bobo37773:  you mean like xfce??
[04:46] <somsip> bobo37773: you can run other WMs, but *inside it*? Not sure what you mean by this.
[04:47] <asilhouette> here's a error i'm getting
[04:47] <asilhouette> W: GPG error: http://np.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:47] <bobo37773> asilhouette: No xfce is a DE. Little different
[04:48] <asilhouette> tried some gpg recieve keys from the internet but didn't work
[04:48] <bobo37773> somsip: I mean the window manager inside is compiz right? Can you run say openbox instead with unity on top? Doesn't seem like it would be possible anymore with the graphical dependencies
[04:49] <bobo37773> somsip: Seems like the wm is a hard run time dependency of the de now. That is the feeling I get from gnome-shell too
[04:49] <somsip> bobo37773: I'm not sure compiz is the WM. I though compiz only did effects. Anyway, I've never seen anythign that suggest it's possible to do what you're asking. Install a WM, start it on login, use it. That's it
[04:50] <asilhouette> hello guys, any help with BADSIG errors
[04:50] <asilhouette> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "KEY" doesn't work
[04:51] <bobo37773> somsip: For compiz to do the effects it has to be the window manager. Some desktop environments let you change the window managers during run time. Most of them used to be that way. Guess I've lost touch a little.
[04:52] <bobo37773> asilhouette: Maybe you can pastebin the error so people here can see. Could help you more than telling us maybe
[04:52] <somsip> bobo37773: I understand the unity/compiz relationship is pretty tight. Dunno though - I only ran unity for a few days.
[04:53] <asilhouette> k thanks bobo37773
[04:53] <bobo37773> somsip: Yeah me too. Switched to openbox a long time ago because of graphical bugs (not that openbox is without bugs though hahaha).
[04:53] <IdleOne> !gpgerr | asilhouette
[04:53] <IdleOne> asilhouette: you need to change the <key> for the actual key
[04:54] <asilhouette> IdleOne: i did that doesn't change the keys
[04:54] <IdleOne> asilhouette: from the error you pasted earlier it would be sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5
[04:54] <asilhouette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266927/
[04:55] <asilhouette> ok let me check IdleOne
[04:55] <asilhouette> thanks
[04:56] <asilhouette> still gpg unchanged
[04:58] <asilhouette> here's the paste of the error
[04:58] <asilhouette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1266927/
[05:00] <IdleOne> try  sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com A75E6C2A
[05:01] <asilhouette> k
[05:02] <asilhouette> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[05:02] <asilhouette> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[05:02] <asilhouette>  IdleOne
[05:03] <IdleOne> don't know, sorry
[05:03] <steveGODSchild> hi I need help
[05:03] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys.
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | steveGODSchild
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> I recently got a new computer and installed Ubuntu on it.
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> It has 2 hard drives, a solid state and a regular drive.
[05:04] <steveGODSchild> I am running windows 7 as my main os
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> The intention was to install Ubuntu to the SSD, which I did and then install everything else onto the 1TB extra HDD.
[05:04] <asilhouette> k thanks for trying to help IdleOne
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> But for some reason, everything is being installed to SSD. What do I do to fix it?
[05:04] <somsip> Shazer[2]: what is 'everything else'?
[05:04] <steveGODSchild> and I am running 98 and xp and ubuntu on virtual box
[05:05] <steveGODSchild> I am running ubuntu 12.04
[05:05] <steveGODSchild> my dvd burner wont recognise
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Shazer[2], What is everything you need to be detailed
[05:06] <aneek> can any one tell me root password reset tool for ubuntu instead of ubuntu live cd ?
[05:06] <Ben64> aneek: single user mode
[05:06] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Are you saying that you want your /home directory to be on the large drive and your system binaries to be on the ssd? Is that what you're getting at?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Are you trying to reset the password, or have you forgot it?
[05:08] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: So that your movies and music and all that is on the big one?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> all these win7 dualboot problems these days
[05:09] <[deXter]> Hi all, how can I check what runlevel I'm currently in?
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Its not rocket science. ;)
[05:09] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773, that's exactly right.
[05:09] <bobo37773> lotuspsychje: Hmm? Like what?
[05:09] <steveGODSchild> can someone help me
[05:09] <Shazer[2]> I guess. :/
[05:09] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Gotcha. So first question: Did you encrypt your system at install time?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> bobo37773:most of the issues ppl come here is win7 boot messed up after installing ubuntu
[05:10] <aneek> wilee-nilee i want to reset password
[05:10] <Ben64> !lostpass | aneek
[05:10] <aneek> i upgrade my ubuntu but now i m not able to logon admin account
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Are you in the OS now and do you know the password?
[05:10] <Ben64> !pwreset | aneek
[05:10] <bobo37773> lotuspsychje: Weird. Never had any issue like that. Of course I dumped windows after realizing I hadn't booted it for 6 months hahaahha
[05:10] <aneek> i know password
[05:11] <Ben64> aneek: admin account? root doesn't have a password, use sudo
[05:11] <aneek> i tried with recovery mode
[05:11] <aneek> and with live cd as well
[05:11] <aneek> but it doesn't worked for me
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> aneek, If you are in the OS open a terminal and type passwd, put the one in now and the new one and confirm it and you're set.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> bobo37773:i try convince ppl single boot ubuntu for an easier life :p
[05:11] <aneek> i type sudo -s
[05:11] <aneek> but not having authantication
[05:12] <aneek> it is not a admin account
[05:12] <bobo37773> lotuspsychje: All they have to do is use it. They will convince themselves or give up
[05:12] <aneek> i m logon by user
[05:12] <Ben64> !enter | aneek
[05:12] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: nope
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Are you a super user a admin user?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> aneek, root is sudo -i
[05:13] <aneek> ok ubottu
[05:13] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Okay that's good. Now there are a couple of things that we are going to need to do. What is on the big drive now? Is it empty or does it have something on it?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Ben64:so if anyone can recover password like this, how would one safely store data on hd nobody can ever touch?
[05:13] <aneek> no wilee-nilee i m not logoned as superuser  ,
[05:14] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: apparently it is empty?
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Then you can't get root.
[05:14] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Okay. So this is not a dual boot or anything right?
[05:14] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: nope
[05:15] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: you don't
[05:15] <aneek> so is there any option like in window we use ERD something is there any alternative option available for ubuntu wille?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Ben64:even on encrypted drive possible to recover passes?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Why do you not have a admin account>
[05:16] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: OKay good. Do you know how to use pastebin or other pasting services? Going to assume yes. I want you to run a couple of commands for me in the terminal and paste the output okay
[05:16] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: sure thing. :)
[05:16] <Shazer[2]> bobo37773: can we do this in PM?
[05:16] <Shazer[2]> It's hard keeping track of all the messages.
[05:17] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: Yeah it would actually probably make a lot more sense hahaha pm me
[05:17] <aneek> actually it blocked wilee i upgrade my ubuntu and now i m only able to login on normal user account but i have two more account one for admin and one for other user i m not able to logon for these two account
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> aneek, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword  you can reset the name and password if you don't have either remembered.
[05:20] <steven-> what do I use to load music onto my iphone 5?
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> aneek, Sounds like it is a upgrade problem though so this may not work if it is broken, I hope you have a backup of the OS before upgrading.
[05:21] <blob4000> is there are channel for questions about 12.10?
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> blob4000, #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <xangua> blob4000: #ubuntu+1
[05:21] <blob4000> cheers
[05:22] <xangua> steven-: not the most third party friendly device :P
[05:22] <ardchoille> xangua: indeed. steven Rhythmbox will recognize the iPhone but I've never been able to sync with it
[05:23] <steven-> yea but its what I got
[05:23] <steven-> RMS can come chop off my head later
[05:23] <vivid> steven-, i used a program called gtkpod in the past, not sure if it works with the iphone though
[05:24] <ardchoille> vivid: gtkpod worked with my iPhone 4S, not sure about the iPhone 5 though
[05:24] <iceroot> steven-: if you want the FREEDOM to do with your phone what you want (e.g. putting music on it) use a real phone and not a apple jail
[05:24] <aritchie_> true that
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> steven-, hehe the pope of the church of GNU would not be ding any beheading.
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> doing*
[05:25] <[deXter]> Hi all, what's the best way to add a directory to the path for all the users in a system (without having to touch their home profiles)
[05:25] <[deXter]> I edited /etc/login.defs but that doesn't seem to have any effect
[05:27] <steven-> sure wish shit just worked
[05:27] <somsip> [deXter]: /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d might be likely candidates, but need more research
[05:27] <iceroot> steven-: its not the fault of ubuntu, blame apple for that
[05:28] <iceroot> steven-: we dont care about that to be honest
[05:29] <steven-> its everyone fault man
[05:29] <iceroot> steven-: its the fault from people which support something like that by buying there products
[05:31] <steveGODSchild> I need help
[05:32] <steveGODSchild> will someone please help me
[05:32] <jagginess> [deXter], your question isnt very clear.. what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:32] <steven-> he needs someone
[05:32] <[deXter]> jagginess, nvm, I found /etc/environment; thanks. :)
[05:33] <timfrost> !ask | steveGODSchild:
[05:34] <jagginess> steven-, i use subsonic, it streams music (there's a subsonic app for it, two of them, but the problem you'll have is the 30 day limit of the subsonic API--- this isnt a 30 day limit on the ipod/iphone app, but on the "API" of the hosting subsonic server-- you can give a little donation to receive a key for unlimitted use of the API)
[05:35] <jagginess> steven-, (the donation goes to the subsonic.org, which arent the makers of the ipod app)
[05:35] <steven-> look all I want to do is get this chuck klosterman audio book onto my iphone and go for a jog
[05:35] <steveGODSchild> I use ubuntu 12.04
[05:35] <steven-> I got the files stolen from what.cd in mp3 forum
[05:35] <jagginess> steven-, well listen kid, you said "music", so go on and take on the day
[05:35] <steven-> I just want them to go onto the iphone and play
[05:35] <jagginess> lol
[05:36] <jagginess> same thing, you can use that too.
[05:36] <steveGODSchild> I am using virtual box
[05:36] <steven-> i'm about to pay for this book
[05:36] <steven-> just so I don't have to deal with this
[05:36] <steveGODSchild> ubuntu will not recognise my cd rom
[05:36] <steven-> this is what the world has come to
[05:38]  * jagginess thinks people who joke about "stealing" should be kicked.
[05:38] <somsip> steven-: do you have a support question. really.
[05:38] <steven-> I took my bites and bytes and now no one else can ever have them
[05:38] <jagginess> somsip, no he doesnt.
[05:40] <steven-> somsip: yea how do I load mp3 files from ubuntu onto my iphone?
[05:40] <somsip> steven-: no idea. I believe their is software that works like itunes but I've never used them
[05:40] <somsip> *there
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> steveGODSchild, Did you install the extension pack, you might try #vbox
[05:42] <steveGODSchild> what is the extention pacjk
[05:42] <steveGODSchild> and where do I get it
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> steveGODSchild, You know they have a comprehensive manual. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[05:44] <steveGODSchild> thanks I will go and read that
[05:44] <steveGODSchild> thanks for the info
[05:45] <BlackWeb> Hey just wondering if someone could help me out, I'm using Screen right now and when I transfer files from a remote server then it starts the transfer, then just places it in the background, My question is alright the transfer has started but How do I know the progress of the transfer using Screen, So that I know if its almost done or if its done?
[05:47] <steven-> you closed out of the screen and now you want it back?
[05:47] <steven-> try screen -raAd
[05:48] <BlackWeb> No, I'm still attached to the Session of screen which is doing a FTP transfer, How do I know the progress of the FTP Transfer
[05:48] <steven-> what are you using for the ftp transfer?
[05:48] <BlackWeb> so the FTP transfer is taking place in the background with Screen but I have no Idea when the Transfer is completed or the progress of the transfer
[05:49] <BlackWeb> SCP
[05:49] <steven-> you cant pull up the screen with the running scp?
[05:49] <BlackWeb> Is there a way to see the progress
[05:49] <steven-> you know how screen works?
[05:49] <steven-> you can go back to windows you had in screens
[05:50] <BlackWeb> Ya, I'm attached to the current window, and its doing the Transfer in the background but how do I see the progress of the transfer
[05:51] <BlackWeb> So Have 3 PCs ( A B C) Local connected  to A, SSH into C, Transfering files from B to C, but cant see the transfer progress going to C
[05:52] <steven-> not sure thats over my head
[05:54] <somsip> BlackWeb: So you ssh to C. You run screen. You issue 'scp B:file C:' and it shows you the progress. You detach from screen and you drop to the ssh to C. You close that, you're back at A. You ssh to C again, you reconnect to screen again, and it should show you the scp progress
[05:54] <steven-> 5 years ago I ran gentoo got my music from mpd and used pine to get my mail now I can't even load mp3s onto my 600$ phone this must be what its like to get old
[05:54] <BlackWeb> somsip thats the thing when I do that then it Executes the SCP and it doesnt show any progress but the Transfer is taking place though
[05:55] <BlackWeb> so I started screen
[05:55] <BlackWeb> it gives me a new session
[05:55] <BlackWeb> then when I do the scp
[05:55] <BlackWeb> its does it then brings me back to the command promp
[05:55] <somsip> has it finished? Commands usually do that when you have completed
[05:57] <BlackWeb> The file is on the Machine ya, So its suppose to have progress bar until it finishes it using Screen, Cause right now I'm testing it using 3 Computers on Local Network, but going to eventually use it with my Seedbox
[05:58] <somsip> BlackWeb: does the progress bar show when you just ssh and scp from that without screen?
[05:58] <somsip> BlackWeb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44059/progress-bar-in-scp-command
[05:59] <BlackWeb> No, as soon as I "scp file1 Server" then it moves down one line, and back at command prompt but file is on server now so no progress bar at all
[05:59] <somsip> BlackWeb: so there isn't a progress bar with scp and it's not a problem with screen?
[05:59] <BlackWeb> But if I dont use Screen then scp then ya there is a status bar
[06:00] <somsip> BlackWeb: nope. I don't get what you're doing here. Sorry.
[06:02] <ardchoille> somsip: sounds like he gets a progress bar with scp when he isn't in a screen session, but it disappears when he is in a screen session. now he wants the status bar back when in screen
[06:02] <ebravick> screen doesn't do a number of things well, try tmux and you might have better results.
[06:03] <somsip> ardchoille: yes, but I don't understand why this is happening. I'm a tmux user with no direct experience of screen
[06:03] <ardchoille> somsip: it seems tmux handles things better than screen
[06:03] <ardchoille> ebravick: thank you for that info
[06:03] <somsip> ardchoille: that's maybe why I expect it to work simply
[06:04] <PaSsI> can anyone plese tell me the help channel for virtual box?
[06:04] <somsip> PaSsI: #vbox I believe
[06:04] <PaSsI> somsip,  thanks
[06:04] <ardchoille> somsip: yeah, I wasn't aware of this issue either.. until ebravick spoke up
[06:04] <somsip> PaSsI: could be wrong. Someone else asked earlier and that was the repl
[06:05] <BlackWeb> Alright I figured it out, have to use the verbose option, When Using just scp I dont
[06:05] <timfrost> somsip: BlackWeb: progress bar functionality needs a terminal type that supports it.  If screen is presenting a terminal type that scp sees as too dumb, it won't do a progress bar.
[06:05] <BlackWeb> Sorry my bad, Thanks everyone :)
[06:05] <somsip> timfrost: ah - I'm used to installed ncurses-termcap which sorts that sort of thing out IIRC
[06:05] <somsip> BlackWeb: cool- glad you got it in the end
[06:06] <PaSsI> somsip, vbox it is....thanks again
[06:06] <somsip> PaSsI: heh
[06:07] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:07] <ShapeShifter499> I have a app installed in wine how do I get firefox (native linux) to handle url protocols with it?
[06:08] <ardchoille> ShapeShifter499: you might also ask in the wine channel, #winehq I believe
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> I have
[06:08] <vox> ShapeShifter499: i'd imagine you'd have to get the app to pass the urls to ff
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> I know it worked in the past
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> but this is on a fresh install and I can't seem to get it to work
[06:13] <Dataholic> Can i use mini.iso in UCK, i want to create livecd with vmware-view-client 1.6 and gnome installed is it possible with UCK?
[06:31] <saquib> :)
[06:34] <steveGODSchild> I need hel-\
[06:34] <mechteam> hey guys...can I have lucid type gnome look in 12.04 ....
[06:34] <somsip> !nounity | mechteam
[06:34] <steveGODSchild> I need help
[06:38] <bobo37773> Shazer[2]: you there?
[06:42] <Treaver> Does anyone know how to hide the file extensions in Ubuntu?
[06:42] <gordonjcp> Treaver: there aren't any file extensions
[06:43] <gordonjcp> Treaver: you mean like ".com" ".bat" and so on?
[06:44] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[06:45] <gordonjcp> yellabs-r2: morning
[06:45] <yellabs-r2> i have thsi problem , on 12.04 and firefox , that firefox does not open torrents in transmission any more
[06:45] <yellabs-r2> any tips are welcome
[06:46] <gordonjcp> yellabs-r2: what happens when you click on a torrent link?
[06:46] <NoOova> Hello all!
[06:46] <yellabs-r2> it asks me to open it in google crhome
[06:47] <NoOova> how at english named "First name, last name, middle name and sex" in one word?
[06:47] <gordonjcp> NoOova: there isn't one word for that
[06:47] <NoOova> "Credentials" is not that?
[06:48] <yellabs-r2> it say's , and i quote : Open with Google Chrome ( default )
[06:48] <gordonjcp> NoOova: I guess you could use credentials but that's not really what it means
[06:48] <gordonjcp> NoOova: anyway #u-ot
[06:49] <gordonjcp> yellabs-r2: what other options do you have in the dropdown?
[06:49] <yellabs-r2> choose the program
[06:49] <jshaw10> ello
[06:49] <yellabs-r2> that i would ike to use
[06:51] <yellabs-r2> i could then choose transmission-gtk, but the option to keep it as default is greyed out
[06:52] <yellabs-r2> so i would have to do that every time, that setting would not be saved
[06:52] <diverdude> when i go to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and remove the comment (#) from the line: #Port 22 and instead write Port 50683, save and close and do /etc/init.d/sshd restart i cannot connect to ssh any long - even if i do ssh x.x.x.x -p 50683. Only when i go back in again and comment out the line again and restart i can connect via ssh again normally. How do i move ssh to another port so that it actually works?
[06:53] <pwnguin> postgresql-client-9.1 : Breaks: postgresql-9.1 (< 9.1.6-0ubuntu12.04) but 9.1.5-0ubuntu12.04 is installed
[06:53] <somsip> diverdude: does a port <1024 work?
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> hmm, if i run firefox as root , it does work
[06:53] <pwnguin> how does one convince apt to upgrade postgresql-9.1 and -client when they both break versions smaller than one another?
[06:54] <yellabs-r2> but i dont want that afcause , does it give any clue 's as to what the problem might be ?
[06:55] <diverdude> somsip: no, same. i tried 7867, and also did not work
[06:55] <somsip> diverdude: erm...7867 is not less than 1024...
[06:57] <diverdude> somsip: oh sry, i read wrong
[06:58] <somsip> diverdude: I use 1022. There was probably some reason why I didn't use >1024 that I don't remember now...
[06:58] <ardchoille> somsip: small screen netbook?
[06:58] <fidel_> hi - i need to add some kind of wait/sleep to a shell/bash script. what would you guys recommend? sleep?
[06:59] <pwnguin> seems removing and reinstalling the packages "fixed" it
[06:59] <somsip> ardchoille: no. webservers.
[06:59] <ardchoille> fidel_: look at man sleep, some options there
[07:00] <ripthejacker> hi guys is there any way to make shortcut key to open terminal in the current directory like in KDE?
[07:00] <ripthejacker> i can make shortcut key to open terminal but that would open my home directory
[07:01] <leehambley> how does one diagnose a crash, when the server has stopped responding, and has to be remote restarted (soft) - are there any logs that survive the reboot?
[07:01] <fidel_> ardchoille: yep i do know sleep - i was just wondering if you guxys wouldrecommend something else instead of sleep ;)
[07:02] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: if you're using nautilus, you can install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:02] <diverdude> somsip: 1022 dont work either
[07:02] <leehambley> I'm assuming it's memory/swap related, since I'm running a long running background job, but it's hard to day
[07:02] <leehambley> to say*
[07:02] <somsip> diverdude: firewall?
[07:02] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: gnome-terminal --working-directory /path/to/desired/dir
[07:02] <diverdude> somsip: only if there is a firewall built into centos
[07:03] <somsip> diverdude: centos? No idea then
[07:05] <iman> Hi guys, I just want to know about main and restricted and universe and multiverse , there aren't update patches for universe and multiverse component in ubuntu repositories  ?
[07:05] <iman> and there are support for main and restricted componenet ?
[07:11] <truman> Hello! Could somone  answer how to power of ubuntu 12.04, i have try the grub-update and sudo poweroff and and it dont work
[07:11] <somsip> truman: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:12] <truman> ok thanks
[07:12] <zilvukas> sudo halt -p
[07:13] <yellabs-r2> strange problem solved : firefox not opening transmission , wanting to open with google chrome instead : delete google chrome , wich was installed from the internet site, restores the default firefox behavior, and it opens torrents again with transmission
[07:13] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, path to desired dir? but that will always open it in same directory i want it to open in current working directory
[07:14] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: that will open the terminal where you tell it to. isn't that what you asked for?
[07:16] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, no i want to set a keyborad shortcut to open terminal with pwd as the current directory just like f4 key in KDe
[07:17] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: oh, ok, I don't have any idea, but I think that will involve using "URI" similar to what is used in a nautilus script
[07:19] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, i have no idea how to do that but still thanks for helping
[07:21] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: I think the biggest hurdle for that will be getting the keyboard shortcut to know what the value of pwd is at any given moment. The nautilus-open-terminal can do it but that is a right click tather than a kb shortcut
[07:23] <ripthejacker> ardchoille, nautilus-open-terminal will do for now thanks friend :)
[07:24] <ardchoille> ripthejacker: good luck :)
[07:24] <ripthejacker> i have to re login after installing it?
[07:24] <ardchoille> you shouldn't need to but relaunch nautilus
[07:24] <diverdude> i know now for sure that iptables is causing the problem since /etc/init.d/iptables stop makes it work! however, adding a rule like iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 50683 -j ACCEPT and then stop and start does not work :( So what am I missing?
[07:26] <tortu-geniale> yo !
[07:26] <Zokol> hello
[07:26] <tortu-geniale> francais ?
[07:26] <Zokol> nope
[07:26] <ardchoille> !fr | tortu-geniale
[07:26] <tortu-geniale> witch country ?
[07:26] <Zokol> finland
[07:27] <tortu-geniale> ok :)
[07:27] <Zokol> actually, i have a bit of problem with ubuntu server
[07:27] <tortu-geniale> that's the first time that i test IRC
[07:28] <Zokol> hoping to find some sort of clue from here.. How to find out why lighttpd uses all of the memory and swap?
[07:28] <fidel_> !details | Zokol
[07:29] <fidel_> Zokol: there is btw #ubuntu-server aswell - not sure if it really adds more then this channel already can offer
[07:31] <fidel_> Zokol: and there again is #lighttpd aswell ;)
[07:32] <Zokol> I'm running 10.04.3 on three servers with lighttpd, PHP and mapserver. Each of the servers starts to commit more and more memory at 2pm, it stops at 5:30am when lighttpd is restarted with cron.
[07:33] <Zokol> just curious if there is a way to see why lighttpd uses that much memory
[07:33] <fidel_> Zokol: personaly i am not used to lighttpd - there for consider asking in the project channel aswell - at least if noone else inhere is able to offer help
[07:34] <Zokol> thanks, i will ask from #lighttpd
[07:39] <sword_hacker> ^_^
[07:40] <LittleFool> Iam about to install a program that uses a lot of space in various folders in /var so i was about to mount another drive into /var but what happens when i do so?
[07:41] <LittleFool> Do the "old" files and folders get removed or are simply new files written onto that new drive?
[07:41] <geirha> LittleFool: The old files will be untouched and still be there, but hidden below the new filesystem mounted on top
[07:42] <LittleFool> geirha: so they arent usable? means i have to copy them before mounting at this point?
[07:42] <Xethron> Can anyone help me with 3G?
[07:42] <geirha> LittleFool: So you should boot a live CD, mount the new /var partition on /mnt or something, copy the files from the current /var to /mnt, then have it mounted on /var on next boot
[07:43] <LittleFool> geirha: okey thanks for the info
[07:43] <geirha> LittleFool: If that works, boot back into a live session and wipe the old /var dir
[07:43] <Xethron> How do I check to see if Linux detects my 3G device?'
[07:44] <Xethron> I don't see anything in lspci?
[07:44] <geirha> LittleFool: You'll need to take care that the files retain their ownership and permission bits after the copy
[07:45] <LittleFool> geirha: ow yea...i have to find out how to mount a drive in kvm before anyway dont want to create a huge img file
[07:45] <Stanley00> Xethron: use dmesg and lsusb  (in case it use USB interface)
[07:46] <somsip> LittleFool: and rename your old /var so you don't get dead, inaccesible files overwritten by teh new mount
[07:47] <geirha> somsip: they won't be
[07:47] <somsip> geirha: if a filesystem gets mounted on an existing dir with files in, the existing files are inaccessible. I had this the other week when I messed up a /boot move
[07:48] <geirha> somsip: yes, which is why he should set it up in the live session
[07:49] <geirha> there's likely be lots of open file handles in /var when the system is running, so it would be really tricky to pull it off without a reboot
[07:49] <somsip> geirha: if he's never had a /var before, then fair enough. If he has an existing /var, any contents will be inaccessible. It's just dead drive space
[07:49] <Xethron> Stanley00: its a built in modem...
[07:50] <RawgerNice> wake up big baby
[07:50] <Stanley00> Xethron: then you can try "dmesg | grep -i modem"
[07:51] <geirha> somsip: that's irrelevant as long as it's done while the system isn't running
[07:51] <somsip> geirha: maybe we're talking at cross purposes. this exaplins what I mean. It may, or may not, be relevant to LittleFool http://superuser.com/questions/200685/what-does-linux-do-with-existing-files-in-a-mount-point
[07:51] <Xethron> Stanley00: Nothing :/
[07:52] <Xethron> Stanley00: Its a laptop with a built in 3G modem. No idea what type it is though
[07:53] <sword_hacker> how to use translate text
[07:54] <geirha> somsip: that's what we're talking about. I suggested he keep both /var/s until he could test that the new one is working as expected; then remove the old one.
[07:54] <Xethron> Stanley00: In lspci, i get this: 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289 (rev 01)
[07:54] <geirha> the last part can be done while the system is running though
[07:54] <Xethron> not sure what that is
[07:55] <somsip> geirha: agreed. He can just delete if if he renames it. Otherwise he has to boot to livecd again...
[07:55] <sword_hacker> 有没有中国人！
[07:55] <bimwook> ÓÐ
[07:55] <somsip> !zh | sword_hacker
[07:55] <geirha> somsip: No, you just temporarily mount the root filesystem at another location, delete from there, then unmount
[07:56] <Stanley00> Xethron: I have no idea either
[07:57] <Stanley00> Xethron: it looks like some kind of a card reader
[07:57] <Treaver> Hey guys, I tried to fix the GRaphics but changed it to Expermintal now it won't show compiz. I need to know how to open software sources from command line
[07:57] <Treaver> Stanley How do I open software sources from command
[07:57] <Stanley00> Treaver: oops. just a minute
[07:58] <Stanley00> Treaver: try this command "software-properties-gtk"
[07:58] <milo_> :>
[07:58] <milo_> why need 3 flood bots?
[07:58] <Treaver> Thanks (;
[07:59] <Treaver> I gonna try the last Pro driver I haven't  use
[07:59] <Stanley00> Treaver: goodluck, but maybe you should try reset unity with each driver first
[08:00] <Treaver> No clue on how to do that
[08:00] <Stanley00> Treaver: unity usually crash when install new grphic driver and need to reset every time
[08:01] <Treaver> :P
[08:01] <Stanley00> Treaver: with quantal, you can try "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/" and then "setsid unity"
[08:01] <Treaver> Ok this one is applying changes
[08:01] <__\b__> >.>
[08:01] <Treaver> Can you tell me how to restart with command
[08:02] <Stanley00> Treaver: maybe "sudo reboot"
[08:02] <somsip> Treaver: sudo shutdown -r now
[08:02] <Treaver> Also how come my mouse and keyboard quit working all the time?
[08:02] <Treaver> It just stops completely
[08:03] <Xethron> Stanley00: ah, yeah, its a card reader :/
[08:04] <Xethron> so that means that Linux doesn't pick up the 3G card?
[08:05] <Treaver> The only driver that works is the Open Source one and when my computer starts up it starts in a black screen and I gotta press one of the fs to show screen
[08:06] <Xethron> Stanley00: would it help if I open up my laptop and get the name of the card?
[08:06] <Stanley00> Treaver: hmm, I know this issue, you can add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to the kernel when booting, and it's gone
[08:07] <Stanley00> Xethron: well, it may. but how about look up the name in the spec of your laptop?
[08:07] <Treaver> How do I do that
[08:08] <Treaver> Can you do it for me
[08:08] <Xethron> hehe, ok, lemme try that
[08:09] <Stanley00> Treaver: edit the file /etc/default/grub, change to this line *GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi_osi=linux acpi_backlight=vendor"* and then run "sudo update-grub"
[08:10] <Treaver> So wait
[08:10] <Treaver> I've messed with grub before and it fucked my computer up. CAn you plzzz to it :p
[08:12] <Stanley00> Treaver: it's not too hard. you can do it, dude
[08:12] <Treaver> I think I got it
[08:12] <Treaver> So it should say :
[08:13] <Treaver> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet acpi_osi=linux acpi_backlight=vendor" exactly right?
[08:13] <Stanley00> yep
[08:13] <Stanley00> I must go now, see you later
[08:13] <Treaver> oh wait
[08:14] <Treaver> How do I put grub into effect again?
[08:14] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone.
[08:14] <Ray2> sudo update-grub
[08:15] <Ray2> treaver ^^
[08:16] <Treaver> Thanks
[08:16] <rufsketch1> I'm having a weird issue with my connection. I'm sharing connection from my mac via ethernet cable to my PC. It was working fine for a while, and then stopped completely. It works in windows. I think the issue maybe started after I rebooted after using cisco any connect (vpn client) in linux.
[08:16] <rufsketch1> I uninstalled in linux, but no luck
[08:17] <rufsketch1> I'm assigned a local IP address btw 192.168.2.2
[08:17] <rufsketch1> err
[08:17] <rufsketch1> rather
[08:17] <bluenemo> hi guys, in ubuntu 12, how can i disable that windows (mod4) p switches my screen layout? i'm unsing xmonad & gnome-session to manage the screens, however i need windows p for something else
[08:17] <Treaver> That didn't work :(
[08:17] <rufsketch1> it recognizes that as the ip address of the "router" I'm connected to
[08:17] <Treaver> Does anyone know how to fix the black screen on boot? :O
[08:18] <Ray2> treaver Are you dual booting
[08:18] <Treaver> No I'm not
[08:19] <Treaver> It boots to this blackscreen and I have to press Esc or F1 to show something on the computer. Then I have to press it again to show the GUI
[08:19] <Ray2> Treaver, You will not have a grub display unless you are dual bootin
[08:19] <rufsketch1> actually, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be my IP adress or the "router"'s (ma
[08:19] <rufsketch1> (mac's)
[08:20] <Treaver> Ray2 I have the security key thing on my harddrive
[08:20] <Treaver> I have to press those buttons twice to show the password entree area
[08:21] <rufsketch1> ah, okay. It's my adress
[08:21] <rufsketch1> I can ssh from my mac to my linux box apparently
[08:21] <rufsketch1> on LAN
[08:24] <aneek> Hi all, when I am logon on normal user account and open firefox its showing your firefox profile is missing i am able to access firefox with other account i have tried uninstall and reinstall firefox , but issue is still remain
[08:25] <rufsketch1> can anyone help? I'm limited to LAN on my linux box
[08:25] <rufsketch1> no WAN
[08:26] <rufsketch1> WAN works in windows on same box.
[08:26] <rufsketch1> WAN used to work. Stopped at some point. Not entirely sure when. Might have to do with cisco anyconnect vpn client.
[08:30] <mhr> Hello everyone
[08:32] <vlt> lasvlt 5
[08:33] <vlt> nm
[08:33] <SilvereX> Hey
[08:33] <SilvereX> Anybody know why my desktop cursor won't disappear when playing farcry2?
[08:33] <SilvereX> It's stuck in the middle of the screen and jumps back every time I move it
[08:34] <somsip> SilvereX: how are you playing farcry2 on ubuntu?
[08:34] <SilvereX> bought it off gog.com
[08:34] <SilvereX> and used the playonlinux installation script
[08:34] <somsip> SilvereX: and where does ubuntu come into this?
[08:35] <somsip> SilvereX: ah - lagggg
[08:35] <rufsketch1> can anyone help me figure out why I can't connect to WAN?
[08:35] <rufsketch1> I'm limited to LAN only.
[08:35] <mhr> I have a bash script which downloads a zip file, using "expect script" file, from remote machine connected via vpn. After download it extracts the contents and adds new contents and again compresses to create new zip file. When I run the script from terminal, it works fine. but when I use cron to execute same It does not work. Please help.
[08:35] <rufsketch1> Or at least point me in the right direction to trouble shoot this
[08:36] <Ray2> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it....Treaver have you tried this fix
[08:36] <somsip> SilvereX: it's a bit specialist. If you don't get an answer here, you may need the playonlinux support @playonlinux
[08:36] <Treaver> Rufsketch1 | Use Google Chrome it will benefit you a lot more.
[08:36] <somsip> mhr: do you use any environmental variables in the script?
[08:36] <rufsketch1> Treaver: how does that have anything to do with lack of a WAN connection?
[08:37] <somsip> SilvereX: sorry - just saw my typo - #playonlinux
[08:37] <Treaver> Oops
[08:37] <mhr> somsip: environment var like?
[08:37] <Treaver> That was to a different person ;p
[08:37] <somsip> mhr: $HOME or that sort of thing
[08:38] <Treaver> Umm quick question my mouse and everything keeps stopping working
[08:38] <somsip> mhr: or even ~ to resolve to home directory
[08:38] <mhr> somsip, no
[08:38] <llutz> mhr: try calling all binaries with full pathes in your script
[08:39] <somsip> mhr: you could pastebin your bash script maybe?
[08:39] <mhr> llutz, i am using full paths
[08:39] <timthoono> hey
[08:40] <llutz> mhr: what fails when using cron? does it run at all, does it just misbehave? some details would be helpful
[08:41] <geirha> mhr: better to set PATH than using full paths though, but redirect all output from your cronjob to a file and see what it fails on. 1 2 * * * thescript >/tmp/thescriptoutput 2>&1
[08:42] <Treaver> Can anyone help me fix my Mouse and Keyboard issue? Mouse and Keyboard just randomly stop working
[08:42] <mhr> llutz, everything other than unzipping and zipping fails
[08:43] <ardchoille> mhr: Please pastebin your script, that will provide more info to help you
[08:43] <sword_> 中
[08:44] <mhr> This is the error from cron to a file : zip warning: name not matched: data-3..0 zip error: Nothing to do! (try: zip -Dr9 data-3.0.zip . -i data-3.0)
[08:44] <rufsketch1> Treaver: what do you mean by randomly stop working?
[08:45] <Treaver> My mouse and keyboard stop funcitoning. Like completely stop and can't use them
[08:45] <ardchoille> mhr: and you say the script works fine when run manually but fails when in a cronjob?
[08:45] <mhr> can the permission for the directory cause problem?
[08:45] <mhr> ardchoille, yes it works manually
[08:45] <geirha> mhr: sounds like the files you want to add are not in the directory you expect
[08:46] <tje2> Anyone willing to work with me for a bit on locating the appropriate drivers for my on-board Broadcom wifi card?    Def clue enabled, just not sure what driver as all of the stuff I've found on Google has served only to confuse me.
[08:46] <tje2> Able to provide output from  lshw, lspci, dmesg, lsmod, etc via pastebin to anyone interested.
[08:46] <shopper_biter> holla
[08:46] <ThinkT510> !b43 | tje2
[08:48] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..   I'm not entirely sure that's what I'm looking for, but I'd be glad to take a look.
[08:48] <tje2> Thanks for the URL.
[08:50] <chris_> hey guys, how do you do an ipconfig in linux??
[08:50] <LittleFool> Im trying to copy my /var to another disk with a live cd but i cant mount my old / partition. i got sda2 as extended and sda5 as linux lvm
[08:50] <llutz> chris_: ip or ifconfig
[08:50] <chris_> llutz, both is possible
[08:51] <chris_> llutz, thats okay worked it out :D right clicked my internet logo and selected info
[08:51] <chris_> llutz, thank you for the help!!
[08:52] <domohawk> Hello #ubuntu, I have a question about how to get a broken package version in ubuntu reverted in mainline
[08:55] <domohawk> The "lv2fil" package was updated prematurely to a git snapshot that is broken. I filed LP bug 907960 many months ago to revert to the official release, but have gotten no traction
[08:55] <domohawk> any adivice please?
[08:55] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Having a little trouble finding the exact model of BCM that I have; I think that's been a big part of my problem.
[08:55] <ThinkT510> tje2: what does lspci say?
[08:55] <tje2> This is all I get back from "lspci -vvnn": 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:4365] (rev 01)
[08:56] <tje2> That's where I looked.  ;)  According to the docs you provided, of course.    heh
[08:56] <tje2> It's a brand new Dell Inspiron 17R, but the docs have been sparse on real technical detail
[08:56] <ThinkT510> tje2: can you pastebin all of lspci?
[08:57] <tje2> ThinkT510,   Gladly.   Just a sec, please.
[08:58] <mhr> Hello everyone, sorry for not replying for long. Here is the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/ek3MNZSs
[08:59] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Here's the pastebin:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267119/
[08:59] <mhr> llutz, http://pastebin.com/ek3MNZSs is the script
[08:59] <tje2> It'll be the second from the last.
[08:59] <llutz> mhr: don't use "./something" in cronscripts
[09:00] <llutz> mhr: what crontab did you add this to?
[09:01] <mhr> llutz, as i have already cd into the directory, can't I use ./something?
[09:01] <Grievre> Is anyone itc familiar with ubuntu's initrd?
[09:01] <geirha> mhr: don't do GREP=`which grep` etc. That's completely pointless
[09:02] <ThinkT510> tje2: after a duckduckgo search it looks like there are no linux drivers for that broadcom chip
[09:02] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..   hahaha.... That figures.   Were you able to determine what the chipset is at least?
[09:02] <ThinkT510> tje2: if you really want to use it you may need to use ndiswrappre
[09:02] <tje2> I figure I can keep an eye out for support for that chip.
[09:02] <geirha> mhr: And always test the exit status of cd. In your case. cd /root/Test/ || exit    especially when one of the following commands is an rm
[09:03] <mhr> */5 * * * * /root/Test/create-final-file >> /root/Test/cronOutput
[09:03] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Yeah, I wanted to at least try that, but I've got x86_64 Linux and I have no idea where to find the appropriate drivers for Win to try with ndiswrapper.
[09:03] <geirha> mhr: append 2>&1 at the end there so we also see the error output
[09:04] <ThinkT510> tje2: well, sorry i can't help further, i avoid broadcom like the plague for wifi
[09:04] <chris_> Hey Ubuntu people! Does anyone have a recomendation for a firewall to use on ubuntu 12.04? Low maintaince and easy to set up? and will work with most apps (ie nicotine?)
[09:04] <mhr> geirha, ok
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> howto uninstall privacy icon (zeitgeist)
[09:04] <somsip> !ufw | chris_
[09:04] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..   Yeah, def not my first choice either (using 2 diff NetGear USB-based dongles currently), but for the price of this laptop and the rest of the specs, I just couldn't pass  it up.
[09:05] <mhr> actually the file after being downloaded should be there in the directory, but I can not see it.
[09:05] <tje2> ThinkT510 .. I ended up w/ this Dell for right about $700;  4 x 2.5 Ghz Intel Core i5, 8 GB RAM, and 1TB hard drive,  17.3" viewable screen, etc.
[09:05] <chris_> !cookie |  sonsip
[09:05] <llutz>  mhr what crontab are you using? users or root?
[09:05] <chris_> somsip, Thanks :D
[09:06] <geirha> mhr: Then possibly the cd command failed
[09:06] <somsip> chris_: you're welcome
[09:06] <ThinkT510> tje2: intel graphics too?
[09:06] <tje2> Don't you know it!
[09:06] <tje2> haha
[09:06] <tje2> I don't much care about that...   As long as it'll run at least 1280x1024 or so in 24-bit color or better, that's all I need.   I wouldn't dare waste CPU cycles gaming on a PC.
[09:06] <mhr> llutz, in terminal logged as root i use "EDITOR=vi crontab -e" to edit
[09:07] <tje2> strictly for coding, compiling, hacking, etc.
[09:07] <PaSsI> how to uninstall any software that was not included in software manager?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> howto remove zeitgeist service to not log history
[09:07] <ThinkT510> tje2: ivy bridge is very new, you may need to use 12.10 when it comes out (3.5 kernel)
[09:07] <tje2> ThinkT510 ..  Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the kernel.    I've been rolling my own on this box since basically Day One.    I just compiled and booted 3.5.6 about 2 hours ago.
[09:08] <abbas__> guys
[09:08] <abbas__> is tinyproxy slow by default? or is it just me?
[09:08] <tje2> I had 3.5.3, then 3.5.5, now 3.5.6....all largely trying to get this damn wireless to work.
[09:08] <mhr> in the pastebin i have used another expect script to download the zip file
[09:08] <abbas__> it looks like my TV gets like only 50k/bytes sec, on my 450 kB line
[09:08] <mhr> can it be the problem?
[09:09] <ThinkT510> tje2: if you can replace it
[09:09] <tje2> abbas__,  So you're saying that you're pulling about 50 KiloBYTES/sec on your 450 KiloBIT/sec connection?
[09:09] <geirha> mhr: Possibly. The error output should help identify the problem ...
[09:09] <BlueWolf> Hi, I am installing ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows 7. I have two hard disk and I want one to have Ubuntu and the other to have Windows. I am ath the partitioning stage and when I click to install Ubuntu on the other hard disk to
[09:09] <tje2> mhr ..  You're debugging a shell script, right?
[09:09] <BlueWolf> Windows it's saying this - No root file system is defined - What does this mean and how do I continue with the installation?
[09:09] <abbas__> tje2
[09:09] <red> I've upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 some months ago and the "window raise" or whatever its called functionality seems to have gotten bugged for me (or changed in this version). When I click a window that is behind another window, it will be activated, but not brought to front - unless I click the title bar of the window.
[09:10] <red> How do I change this to "normal"?
[09:10] <abbas__> yeah my tv tries to stream via tiny proxy, but it seems its getting VERY slow speeds
[09:10] <tje2> abbas__,   That sounds like perfectly appropriate speeds for a 450 kbit/sec pipe.   I'd expect between 45KB/sec - 50KB/sec due to the size of the connection itself, not latency introduced by an extra hop (such as the proxy).
[09:11] <mhr> tje2, debugging? I din't get you. How to do that?
[09:11] <abbas__> tje2, my ubuntu tinyproxy has a 450 kBytes/sec line
[09:11] <abbas__> and its maxed out if i use broser/steam on ubutnu
[09:11] <tje2> mhr ..   You're trying to alleviate a bug in a shell script, yes?
[09:11] <abbas__> but the tv gets lke only 20% of that, even when all bandwidth is idle
[09:11] <red> If I tweak "window focus mode" to mouse, it will raise whatever I mouseover, click mode will only work for the title bars and "sloppy" works exactly the same as "mouse"
[09:12] <tje2> abbas__,   I don't think so.   Based on the numbers you've provided (at least since I've been in-channel) look totally normal to me.
[09:12] <mhr> tje2, yes I want the shell script to work from cron too as it works running from terminal manually.
[09:12] <abbas__> tje2, shouldnt the proxy be taking use of the full bandwidth? the tv is getting on 50kBytes/sec of teh 450kBytes/sec proxy bandwidth
[09:12] <somsip> mhr: is this pastebin the most recent copy of the script? http://pastebin.com/ek3MNZSs
[09:13] <tje2> mhr ..  Oh, OK, you're fixing a different issue than I realized....   Not real familiar w/ the cron aspect of it, sorry.
[09:13] <mhr> yes
[09:13] <PaSsI> how to remove the softwares which were not installed from software manager?
[09:13] <mhr> somsip, yes
[09:13] <somsip> mhr: you said you'd replaced all relative paths with absolute paths?
[09:14] <theplanet> what are backports
[09:14] <ThinkT510> !backports | theplanet
[09:15] <tje2> somsip ..  Just a guess here, but I have a strong suspicion that something in that script of mhr's is freaking out because it doesn't have a controlling tty/terminal device.   Or it may call something that expects input from the user, at which case, it would likely hang indefinitely if ran from crond(8).
[09:15] <mhr> somsip, relative paths of the executable commands like zip and unzip
[09:15] <BlueWolf> Hi, I am installing ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows 7. I have two hard disk and I want one to have Ubuntu and the other to have Windows. I am at the partitioning stage and when I click to install Ubuntu on the other
[09:15] <BlueWolf> Hard Disk to Windows it's saying this - No root file system is defined - What does this mean and how do I continue with the installation?
[09:15] <somsip> mhr: so in download-data-zip() you use "./auto_SCP.sh root@x.x.x.x:/home/name/data/data-3.0.zip ./" This does not look like a relative path/ Or am I missing something
[09:16] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, did you set mount point?
[09:17] <mhr> somsip, so you mean i should change that relative path too? ok let me try with absolute path
[09:17] <BlueWolf> LorSamPau_w: Ok what do you mean by the mount point?
[09:17] <llutz> mhr: you said the zipfile is missing, so it's most likely "auto_SCP.sh" failing in a cronjob
[09:17] <mhr> tje2, yes i am using expect script to automatically provide password when asked
[09:17] <somsip> mhr: that was just the first example. create-new-data-zip() has loads too, eg: $RM ./data-3.0/abc/file1
[09:17] <geirha> absolute vs relative paths really isn't the problem, it's more likely the lack of error handling. Error output should give some better clues
[09:17] <rufsketch1> okay
[09:17] <tje2> mhr ..  OK, that may have something to do with it....
[09:18] <rufsketch1> so it looks like I do indeed have WAN acess
[09:18] <rufsketch1> but no DNS
[09:18] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, http://www.basicconfig.com/files/content/manual_partition_ubuntu07.preview.png
[09:18] <tje2> geirha ..  Agreed.  I think they're just cleaning up the script to make it readable enough to debug.   ;)
[09:18] <somsip> mhr: and as geirha says, you should check for the existence of files before performing operationsa on them at least
[09:18] <mhr> ok i will change all relative paths to absolute
[09:18] <geirha> mhr: any reason why you don't just use keys instead of doing crazy hacks with expect?
[09:18] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, there is mount point... without setting it install will not start
[09:18] <rufsketch1> or at least, whatever DNS linux is attempting to use, isn't working. How can I figure out what DNS it's attempting to use? Is there any way other than to look at /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:18] <geirha> somsip: not really what I meant
[09:19] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   Nope, that file is THE place that you specify your DNS servers.
[09:19] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   I can likely help you w/ the DNS issues....
[09:19] <mhr> I want the script to automate a task and run everyday rather than manually.
[09:19] <rufsketch1> tje2: I would appreciate that
[09:19] <BlueWolf> LorSamPau_w: Ok now I have sda and sdb - I want to install on sdb as windows is already installed on sda?
[09:19] <somsip> mhr: I correct. And as geirha says, you need some error handling. Such as checking for the existence of files before performing operations on them
[09:20] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   Mind giving me a pastebin of your /etc/resolv.conf file real quick?
[09:20] <LorSamPau_w> BlueWolf, select device that you want ubuntu to install to(sdb) and set it's mount point to "/"
[09:20] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  actually, if you can't resolve pastebin.net or whatever, you can privmsg the file details to me so we can get started.
[09:20] <mhr> somsip, ok. I will check that as well.
[09:20] <rufsketch1> tje2: see, I wasn't sure if it was THE place. because the gui network management tool allows me to specify a different DNS server. But it doesn't modify the resolv.conf log. And the sylog seems to show that the network initializes with the dns server i specify in that gui
[09:20] <geirha> somsip: Not really any point in checking for file existance. Checking whether important commands succeed or not, however ...
[09:20] <somsip> mhr: ahhh. I just saw the cd in main. I understand why the others say relatives paths are not an issue. Big mistake on my part. sorry
[09:21] <rufsketch1> tje2: could you just get me the IP address of pastebin?
[09:21] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  I'm not 100% sure on this (I still do most of my Linux networking the manual way), but I believe that *all* of those GUI tools for network management are just front-ends that call stuff like ifconfig, iwconfig, and modify your resolv.conf
[09:22] <llutz> mhr:  [11:05:28] <mhr> actually the file after being downloaded should be there in the directory, but I can not see it.  <--- check your "auto_SCP.sh" twice
[09:22] <rufsketch1> tje2: ah. Well, this appears not to modify resolv.conf
[09:22] <geirha> mhr: Anyway, for the nth time, redirect stderr to the some file so we can see what error messages it gives
[09:22] <llutz> mhr: but as geirha said, better to use ssh-keys with forced commands
[09:22] <rufsketch1> tje2: in any case I will get you the paste. Just a sec. Will have to ssh
[09:22] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   paste.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.90.174.           If those tools *don't* modify your resolv.conf, then they're not actually causing your DNS settings to change.   :)
[09:22] <tje2> OK, sure.
[09:22] <rufsketch1> tje2: yeah, but my syslog claims they are
[09:23] <tje2> hmm, OK.
[09:23] <tje2> I'll have to see the details to really say anything further.
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> is ubuntu safe for the Volume boot record rootkit?
[09:23] <BlueWolf> LorSamPau_w: Ok hold on there :D. I have found out how to do the partitions and stuff, can I just make one big partition for Ubuntu (using the whole hard drive) Do I need to specify where Grub is to be installed
[09:23] <rufsketch1> tje2: nameserver 170.223.111.244
[09:23] <BlueWolf> Whats the process?
[09:23] <mhr> geirha, ok i am now getting error messages from cron. and it is while copying new files.
[09:24] <rufsketch1> tje2: nameserver 170.223.111.252
[09:24] <rufsketch1> tje2: nameserver 170.223.111.244
[09:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by that?
[09:24] <rufsketch1> err, in reverse order, because I can't enter two lines at once apparently
[09:24] <mhr> so possible auto_SCP script is not able to save the file is the directory through cron?
[09:24] <rufsketch1> tje2: that is the full length of my resolv.conf.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:ive just read up new rootkit spreading, infecting the volume boot record (mbr) bypassing classic antivirus software
[09:25] <geirha> mhr: Hard to say without knowing what it tries to do exactly
[09:25] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  Can you ping either of those 2 IPs listed?   It looks like you've got a proper config.
[09:25] <somsip> mhr: previous comments about environmental variables and relatives paths apply to auto_SCP.sh too
[09:25] <krababbel> BlueWolf: you have more than one hdd?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:so i was wondering if ubuntu would be safe for such infection...
[09:26] <passi> how to uninstall draftsight ??
[09:26] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  I bet if you commented those 2 out, and added one line stating "nameserver 8.8.8.8", save file,  then you'll likely be good to go.
[09:26] <BlueWolf> 	
[09:26] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Yes,  and I wnat to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a separate Hard Drive to the windows
[09:26] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: never heard of it, i've never had a rootkit
[09:26] <rufsketch1> tje2: pinging either gets no response
[09:27] <rufsketch1> however, pinging 74.125.224.72 responds in the 100ms range
[09:27] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  Sounds like they're either unreachable, not running a DNS daemon, or you're being restricted (firewall and the like) from these servers.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:http://blog.eset.com/2011/10/18/tdl4-rebooted
[09:27] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: the obvious question is how does it spread?
[09:27] <rufsketch1> tje2: this is possible. Before continuing, I should explain the current setup.
[09:27] <tje2> I suspect if you comment those out (so it doesn't have to timeout waiting for them) and add that one "nameserver 8.8.8.8" line, you'll probably be alright.
[09:28] <rufsketch1> tje2: okay, I will try that first
[09:28] <rufsketch1> comment symbol for conf files is #, right?
[09:28] <ardchoille> lotuspsychje: you realize that article is a year old, right?
[09:28] <krababbel> BlueWolf: when you partition the drive in setup, remember its name, like "sdb", then see that grub is installed to the same name, but not "sdb1", no numbers. "sdb1" is a partition on "sdb". grub installing on just "sdb" means it goes to the MBR of "sdb". Also in bios you should have the boot order boot from the ubuntu drive first after setup.
[09:28] <mhr> somsip geirha llutz : here is the expect script : http://pastebin.com/EeFYTNqR
[09:28] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: as usual it looks windows specific
[09:29] <mhr> auto_SCP script http://pastebin.com/EeFYTNqR
[09:29] <tje2> rufsketch1,   yeah, that'll work in that conf file.
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> ardchoille:i know but just readed another recent article, about it infected like 250.000 computers
[09:29] <rufsketch1> tje2: your bet was a winner!
[09:29] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: this really isn't a support issue
[09:29] <rufsketch1> so, want to explain to me what's going on?
[09:30] <aneek_> hi i am facing an issue with firefox error is "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible." please any one have any idia
[09:30] <himanshu_linux> hi
[09:30] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   I'm guessing that you don't admin the boxes that are listed in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:30] <geirha> mhr: the interact at the end might be expecting a terminal
[09:30] <geirha> I don't know expect that well
[09:30] <ardchoille> lotuspsychje: the weakest link in the security chain of any computer is the user, it's always best to understand how a system works and follow advice given by veterans.
[09:30] <rufsketch1> tje2: I do. However. I recently installed cisco vpn anyconnect
[09:30] <himanshu_linux> where can i get a better css script for "dwwww"
[09:30] <himanshu_linux> ?
[09:30] <rufsketch1> I imagine perhaps it modified my resolv.cnf
[09:30] <rufsketch1> and did not unmodify after uninstall
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:just wondered about ubuntu's safety for specific intrusions like this
[09:30] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..  Ahh, OK, I bet you can only reach those servers via the VPN, but UNTIL you establish the VPN tunnel, they're unreachable.
[09:31] <rufsketch1> this is what I suspected
[09:31] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok so do I just make one big partition on sdb (The whole drive) or should I physically make a swap partition?
[09:31] <rufsketch1> thank you for your help!
[09:31] <abbas__> is there a 'minimize all windows' command for ubuntu? like windowkey+d in win7
[09:31] <tje2> rufsketch1 ..   I'd leave the 8.8.8.8 (an open-resolving, free DNS server provided by Google) line FIRST, then uncomment the existing two lines BELOW it.
[09:31] <mhr> geirha, oh ok, i got the script from google.
[09:31] <tje2> No problemo.    Take it easy.
[09:31] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: how do you get infected with a rootkit? answer that question and you'll know whether or not you are vulnerable
[09:31] <geirha> mhr: Really really onsider using public key authentication instead.
[09:31] <rufsketch1> tje2: okay. thank you!
[09:31] <geirha> *consider
[09:31] <llutz> mhr: go for ssh-keys, set PermitRootLogin=forced-commands-only , create a key without passphrase, modify it to just run the command you need for the copy and drop this sxpect....
[09:32] <Ray2> krababbel If he's running two hdd then should not the grub go to the windows mbr
[09:32] <aneek_> iYour Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. any one have solution for this
[09:32] <krababbel> BlueWolf: swap partition should be the most easy setup, there are swap files too. you need a bit more swap than ram if you want to use hibernation. Unless you have a 20GB hdd here, just put a partition there, you won't notice it. :)
[09:32] <ritz> hi, How do I build a dbg package, or a debian package with dh_strip turned off ?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> ok nvm ill search myself
[09:33] <krababbel> Ray2: yes, that's why I wrote he should install grub to the same drive where ubuntu is.
[09:33] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i have already told you the answer, as has ardchoille
[09:33] <pr0ton> does anybody use this - "Acer Aspire V5-571-6869" ?
[09:33] <pr0ton> any issues with ubuntu?
[09:33] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Well the Hard Drive is a 120GB so should I put a Swap? What do I name it etc?
[09:34] <ritz> nm, found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk3-engines-unico/+bug/920840
[09:34] <geirha> mhr: your bash script is using a lot of bad practices btw. The kind of bad things you learn from the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. See /topic #bash  for some better resources and help in writing more robust scripts.
[09:36] <krababbel> BlueWolf: in setup you can partition and choose as filesystem swap, no name needed. You may shrink the windows partition and put a swap behind it on the windows hdd, if that one is bigger. Or just live with swap on 120GB space, I have windows7 and ubuntu on a 120GB with swap too.
[09:36] <krababbel> BlueWolf: shrink the windows partition in windows, if you have windows7 it is easy
[09:39] <mhr> geirha, can you please point some, so that I can improve the script.
[09:39] <krababbel> BlueWolf: I have 70GB windows, 30GB ubuntu, 16.5GB swap for ubuntu as I have 16GB RAM and use hibernation a lot.
[09:39] <krababbel> BlueWolf: and ubuntu is basically empty, my media files are on my older big HDD.
[09:40] <geirha> mhr: point out some weaknesses of the script you mean?
[09:40] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok Sorry I am battling to understand what to do or explain it, Give me a moment :)
[09:41] <krababbel> no problem, I should've written all that in one piece
[09:41] <mhr> geirha, yeah. Some that i now got is to use absolute paths.
[09:41] <BlueWolf> krababbel: http://www.basicconfig.com/files/content/manual_partition_ubuntu07.preview.png
[09:41] <geirha> mhr: That's not really good advice
[09:42] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Should I do my partitioning similar to that?
[09:42] <geirha> mhr: Anyway /join #bash  and I'll trigger some factoids for you
[09:42] <gazzwi86> hi all
[09:42] <gazzwi86> I'm setting up a LAMP server.  This is my purposed set up: https://gist.github.com/3851707  Does anyone have any suggestions / improvements I should maybe consider?
[09:43] <krababbel> BlueWolf: well just remove the partitions and create new ones in different sizes? Is that what you are asking?
[09:43] <blackshirt> what do you need?
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> gazzwi86  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:44] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Um I think, Basically when I try install it's saying this - No root file system is defined - So what do I do?
[09:44] <krababbel> BlueWolf: yes, just leave no free space :), also in that picture you would note that you'd install grub to "sda"
[09:45] <krababbel> BlueWolf: the root filesystem is a partition with mount point "/". you need at least that one, and you should have a swap too. Some separate /home into another partition too. I don't bother.
[09:46] <gazzwi86> monkey-dust: cheers
[09:47] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok sorry to be annoying, Firstly Can I just use the whole free space for the Ubuntu install or must I make partitions or will ubuntu do it atamatically? And how would I install grub to the sda?
[09:48] <MonkeyDust>  BlueWolf load the live cd, us gparted to create partitions, the installer formats them
[09:50] <Ray2> BlueWolf, http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/
[09:50] <krababbel> BlueWolf: Installing grub is a late step, it presents you a suggested path like "/dev/sda" I think. If you set bios to boot from the second HDD first before setup, you shouldn't have to change anything, it should autodetect fine. In any case, installing grub to the wrong drive is always fixable.
[09:51] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Do I have to manually partition the Ubuntu partitions or will it do it atomatically?
[09:51] <krababbel> BlueWolf: setup can do it automatically too
[09:52] <krababbel> don't know how it looks for hibernation compatibility and uses enough swap even with a lot of ram, but you can resize later too
[09:52] <BlueWolf> 	
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  my advice : do it manually, so you know what it is and what happens -- partitioning is the hardest part, it kept me from using linux years ago
[09:52] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok so I just get rid of the free space by making one big partition and then let Ubuntu do the rest? :)
[09:53] <vicwu> 我看到了中式英语。。呵呵
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:54] <krababbel> BlueWolf: I'd do it manually, you can do it from within setup too, if you choose manual partitioning. automatic can either delete all partitions, or reuse existing ones, depending on what you select.
[09:54] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Sorry I am just struggling to understand How and what to do, a break in communication. It just seems that 10.04 is easier to install than 12.04?
[09:54] <krababbel> BlueWolf: or maybe try installing ubuntu in windows in Virtualbox first, to see how it works.
[09:54] <Ray2> BlueWolf, Check the link I sent you it is a graphical how to
[09:54] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: it's not any easier or harder
[09:55] <abbas__> guys, i've a file on desktop but i cant edit it (it says im not owner of it). how do ic hanges its permissions to let me edit it
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  no, the installer is the same, it's the number of partitions that makes it look hard, i advice a separate /home
[09:56] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/
[09:56] <vicwu> hehe
[09:56] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: Thats where I am the bottom picture
[09:56] <BlueWolf> the last one
[09:57] <krababbel> BlueWolf: so there you have all you need in one screen then
[09:58] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: Ok so do I just click add then after that install?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> it looks to me, the illustration makes it more complicated than it is
[09:59] <krababbel> BlueWolf: yes, the boot loader option at the bottom is the grub location
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[10:00] <FloodBot1> abmares: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:00] <krababbel> BlueWolf: so i guess your 120GB is called sdb. I'd install grub to sdb and set bios to boot from that drive too. So you don't overwrite the windows boot loader on sda
[10:00] <diverdude> How do i recursively copy content of a directory including hidden files like .htaccess and .git etc. to another directory? cp * -R target dest does not copy the .files
[10:01] <HTDutchy> abmares: go back the the islam channel you belong to, im not interested in religion im here for ubuntu
[10:01] <BlueWolf> krababbel: MonkeyDust: Ok so I just continue with the installation and leave the device for boot loader installation on sdb not sda?
[10:01] <PaSsI> which is the most stable version of wine?
[10:02] <kaste> hey, i have a bit of trouble with amarok and pulse. I can't get any sound out of it, likely because it tries to send the output to the HDMI instead of the normal ac97. I configure it otherwise but everytime i open up the dialog it changed back
[10:02] <krababbel> BlueWolf: what are sda and sdb? which drives?
[10:02] <blackshirt> abmares: hey, this is not a place for that
[10:03] <HTDutchy> and now he pms me... really want the face stabbing over ipv4 now
[10:03] <BlueWolf> 	
[10:03] <BlueWolf> krababbel: sda - Windows 7 (which is installed) -   sdb - Where I want Ubuntu 12.04 to go
[10:03] <krababbel> BlueWolf: ok then use sdb, yes
[10:03] <kaste> Any advice?
[10:03] <BlueWolf> 	
[10:03] <BlueWolf> krababbel: For the boot loader right?
[10:03] <BlueWolf> :)
[10:04] <krababbel> yes :)
[10:04] <glah> www.goo.gl/6JzgL MOther in the dream welcome!
[10:04] <krababbel> BlueWolf: just don't forget to setup bios to boot from that drive first too
[10:04] <krababbel> or you won't see ubuntu after reboot
[10:05] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok and as for the free space of 120GB I can just use it all? Where does 10.04 put the boot installation on a dual boot?
[10:05] <BlueWolf> krababbel: " just don't forget to setup bios to boot from that drive first too" How?
[10:06] <dr_willis> in the bios settings when you first power up
[10:06] <BlueWolf> krababbel: What if I set the boot installation on sda, what will happen?
[10:07] <krababbel> BlueWolf: it will overwrite the boot loader of windows, no concern for you actually, also you won't need to setup bios
[10:07] <leotr> hi! how do i get xorg.conf?
[10:08] <leotr> i want to save configuratioin info of X server and save it to file
[10:08] <krababbel> BlueWolf: each drive has its own space for one boot loader, the MBR.
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> !xorgconf| leotr
[10:08] <BlueWolf> krababbel: So why is it a problem to do it over the windows boot loader, will it affect windows in anyway?
[10:08] <HTDutchy> leotr: ubuntu doesnt have a xorg.conf by default
[10:09] <leotr> i know, but i want to create it
[10:09] <leotr> it's important for me
[10:09] <krababbel> BlueWolf: not really, if you choose sdb, you'd have the sda bootloader a backup, in case you break grub on sdb
[10:10] <krababbel> *as backup. if you choose sda, grub will detect windows and add a menu item so you can boot windows too instead of ubuntu
[10:10] <Ray2> bluewolf if you have been booting 10.04 and windows..I would set the bootloader to sda
[10:11] <lantizia_> Hey I've got a load of files shared via NFS but I'm sick of poor NFS performance and how Ubuntu has no out of box support for it so I'm switching to Samba.  The only issue is lots of my files/dirs have what smb/fat consider "illegal characters" like slashes and colons - any script I can use to on-mass detect and rename them? (were talking thousands of files)
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> lantizia_  better ask in #bash
[10:12] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok look I am used to installing dual boots with Ubuntu 10.04 and windows 7. And it has worked fine for me so far, can I just install the boot loader on sda like Ray2 suggests?
[10:12] <krababbel> BlueWolf: I'd say yes
[10:12] <jrib> lantizia_: use the "rename" script; it uses regex
[10:12] <dr_willis> ive never heard of nfsbeing worse than samba. reformance wise
[10:13] <lantizia_> jrib, you realise I'm talking of hundreds of thousands of files right?
[10:13] <jrib> lantizia_: rename and find
[10:13] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok let me go and give this all a try, I shull return if I blow up my computer! :D
[10:13] <HTDutchy> How do I manually add a dns server? resolv.conf says not to edit manually...
[10:13] <krababbel> BlueWolf: you can always fix boot loaders, just keep a live cd around
[10:14] <jrib> !resolvconf | HTDutchy
[10:14] <borozm> Hi
[10:14] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok I will be back, :)
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> !dns| HTDutchy
[10:14] <borozm> need a networking guru
[10:14] <HTDutchy> thanks guys
[10:14] <jrib> lantizia_: you might also ask the #samba guys what they suggest
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> !ask| borozm
[10:14] <L3top> lantizia_: We use NFS without issue, and the performance is much better than samba. What are you renaming the files from and to? Does this need to be recursive or a single folder?
[10:15] <lantizia_> L3top, already said what i'm renaming - and it's recursive
[10:15] <borozm> How do I see again lost panel of networking interfaces?
[10:17] <L3top> "like slashes and colons" is not clear enough for me to write something. What kind of slashes, and are those the only two examples lantizia_?
[10:17] <lantizia_> L3top, if you're not familiar with the topic at hand then don't help
[10:17] <eilyx> why's /home/* not chmod 700.. i could read other's directories ;/
[10:17] <L3top> done. Good luck.
[10:18] <lantizia_> :)
[10:18] <krakenlaken> Dear Ubuntoids...assist me..
[10:19] <krakenlaken> I booted today and witnessed in horror that my sound doesn't work anymore...
[10:19] <L3top> For the record, I am intimately familiar with what is needed... just not going to fight someone to help them.
[10:20] <Ray2> L3top, !cookies | l3top
[10:20] <jrib> Ray2: are you trying to make L3top bake himself a cookie?  Why don't you make him bake one for everyone???
[10:21] <SilvereX> So I've been having trouble with my mouse pointer elastically returning to the middle of the screen
[10:21] <SilvereX> When playing games
[10:21] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok I don't know what I am doing!!!! I'm finding that it's not similar to 10.04. When I click on the free space then Add what do I do after that? :(
[10:21] <SilvereX> I've been googling it for ages and haven't found a fix, but I've just read that an application that does not like
[10:21] <SilvereX> forced mouse warping includes the mouse pointer elastically returning to the middle of the screen
[10:22] <SilvereX> Is this true, and if so, is there any way to fix it so my mouse will hide when running some applications?
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> what's forced mouse warping?
[10:23] <jrib> SilvereX: unclutter will hide your mouse pointer but I don't understand what you said before that
[10:23] <SilvereX> jrib: When running some applications (specifically Far Cry 2) my desktop cursor stays in the middle of the screen
[10:24] <SilvereX> When I move the mouse the cursor moves for a little bit before returning to the center of the screen
[10:24] <SilvereX> The in game cursor works fine
[10:24] <jrib> SilvereX: in wine?
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> oh, games
[10:24] <SilvereX> jrib: Yeah. I've been asking about it in #wine and so far have no responses
[10:25] <jrib> SilvereX: does it happen outside of wine?  Like watching a full screen movie for example?
[10:25] <ThinkT510> !appdb | SilvereX
[10:25] <BlueWolf> krababbel: Ok I don't know what I am doing!!!! I'm finding that it's not similar to 10.04. When I click on the free space then Add what do I do after that? :(
[10:25] <jrib> SilvereX: or even one of the native fps on linux
[10:25] <SilvereX> jrib: Watching a fullscreen movie is fine. It only happens when running some games
[10:27] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | BlueWolf
[10:27] <BlueWolf> 	
[10:27] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: :)
[10:28] <Ray2> bluewolf click on page 2 for examples
[10:28] <BlueWolf> Ray2: Ok :)
[10:28] <SilvereX> jrib: It only seems to happen in windowed mode. When I run it in fullscreen it's fine, but the game doesn't take up the whole screen
[10:29] <SilvereX> jrib: And when I quit, there seems to be some invisible barriers preventing me from moving my mouse to the far right and bottom of my screen
[10:29] <dr_willis> SilvereX: that may be a scaleing setting for your video card or monitor
[10:30] <PaSsI> any channel for wine?
[10:30] <ThinkT510> PaSsI: #winehq
[10:30] <jrib> SilvereX: laptop by any chance?
[10:30] <SilvereX> jrib: Desktop computer
[10:30] <PaSsI> ThinkT510, thanks
[10:30] <SilvereX> jrib: 12.04
[10:32] <yincongxian> what's this
[10:32] <ThinkT510> yincongxian: ubuntu support channel
[10:33] <yincongxian> oh,I have known
[10:34] <krakenlaken> Excuse me, where could I ask for some audio troubleshooting, if it's possible that is..
[10:34] <ThinkT510> !audio | krakenlaken
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> krakenlaken  try here
[10:36] <krakenlaken> Thank you. I'll try those too..
[10:38] <Alberto> hi. am having a problem installing the thunderbird-stable ppa ( More info: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable)
[10:38] <Alberto> gpg: "tag:launchpad.net:2008:redacted" not a key ID: skipping / recv failed
[10:38] <ardchoille> Alberto: any reason you're installing a ppa when thunderbird is in the repos?
[10:39] <ThinkT510> Alberto: we don't support ppas here, you need to ask its maintainer
[10:39] <Alberto> ok thanks
[10:42] <kaste> hey, i have a bit of trouble with amarok and pulse. I can't get any sound out of it, likely because it tries to send the output to the HDMI instead of the normal ac97. I configure it otherwise but everytime i open up the dialog it changed back. How can i fix this?
[10:43] <kaste> sound is working fine otherwise, i hear system sounds, mpg123 can play just dandy
[10:44] <farrioth> Has anyone had issues with kerning in qt4 on precise?
[10:44] <Ippo> I have a bunch of wma files and need them in wav or mp3. unfortunately, audacity 2.0.0 says that it can't open wma files because of legal issues. Anybody has any idea?
[10:44] <Ippo> (i'm on a work computer and cannot install anything)
[10:45] <farrioth> Ippo: Do you have mplayer?
[10:45] <Ippo> unfortunately, not even mplayer
[10:45] <Ippo> no mplayer, no ffmpeg, no soundjuicer
[10:46] <ThinkT510> Ippo: no doubt it is a codec issue and to solve it you need to install the codec, looks like you're rather stuck
[10:46] <farrioth> Ippo: Can you boot a livecd and install something there?
[10:46] <Ippo> no, I don't have the rights to restart the system
[10:46] <Ippo> but wait
[10:46] <Ippo> there is the default sound recorder installed
[10:47] <Ippo> let me fiddle with it a bit
[10:47] <ElixirVitae> Forgive my uneducated question but why is there so many dependencies in linux? I migrated from windows and I generally did not need anything other than .net or directx...
[10:47] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: windows apps usually ship with their dependencies
[10:47] <ElixirVitae> Whereas in linux many programs necessitates numerous dependencies
[10:48] <krakenlaken> I followed all steps in the troubleshooting page from ubottu and also the ASLA page recommended there. All commands followed thru until sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:48] <ardchoille> ElixirVitae: and if you stick with the repos the user rarely has to mess with dependencies
[10:48] <ElixirVitae> I used apt up till now, but read that synaptic or aptitude are great alternatives
[10:48] <Ippo> the sound recorder can apparently open the files
[10:48] <Ippo> but I can't get it to convert them
[10:49] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: avoid aptitude
[10:49] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | ElixirVitae
[10:49] <talpur__> hi friends
[10:49] <ElixirVitae> oh, I see
[10:49] <Ippo> nope, wrong
[10:49] <Ippo> cannot even play them, codec issues
[10:50] <talpur__> I M NEW HERE
[10:50] <Ippo> ok, I'm s*****d
[10:50] <ardchoille> Ippo: you're quite limited if you can't install anything
[10:50] <Ippo> ikr
[10:50] <ElixirVitae> What about synaptic, does any clash occur using it interchangeably with apt?
[10:50] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: no, it is a front-end to apt-get
[10:50] <ardchoille> ElixirVitae: Synaptic has worked great for me for years
[10:50] <talpur__> I have problem to download benchmarck...error 500 attempts
[10:51] <Ippo> well, I do have the rights to restart another pc in the room
[10:51] <Ippo> I might boot a live cd on that one
[10:51] <Ippo> it will probably get me fired but at least I'll have my files
[10:52] <ElixirVitae> Ippo's question reminds me, I have been using portable applications in Win, either standalone or with liberkey or portableapps
[10:52] <ElixirVitae> Does an equivalent in linux exists?
[10:52] <farrioth> Okay, got my font rendering sorted (hopefully).
[10:52] <talpur__> talpur@talpur-Inspiron-1564:~/GEM5 $ wget https://llvm.org/svn/llvm-projects/test-suite/tags/RELEASE_14/SingleSource/Benchmarks/McGill/queens.c
[10:52] <talpur__> --2012-10-08 18:51:57--  https://llvm.org/svn/llvm-projects/test-suite/tags/RELEASE_14/SingleSource/Benchmarks/McGill/queens.c
[10:52] <talpur__> Resolving llvm.org (llvm.org)... 128.174.246.134
[10:52] <talpur__> Connecting to llvm.org (llvm.org)|128.174.246.134|:443... connected.
[10:52] <talpur__> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
[10:52] <talpur__> 2012-10-08 18:52:01 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
[10:52] <FloodBot1> talpur__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: just use a livecd/usb
[10:53] <ElixirVitae> What if I can't/don't want to boot, as is the case with Ippo?
[10:53] <Ippo> @ElixirVitae: there are many standalone programs
[10:53] <Ippo> not sure if that was your question
[10:53] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: in that case, not really then
[10:53] <ElixirVitae> it was standalone AND portable, Ippo
[10:54] <ElixirVitae> but I can use portableapps or liberkey platforms through wine, no?
[10:54] <Ippo> sorry, I've got no experience with that, can't help you
[10:54] <ThinkT510> ElixirVitae: no idea, wine would need to be aware of the usb
[10:55] <ElixirVitae> hmm, that needs experimenting then
[10:56] <ElixirVitae> winehq says portableapps is platinum whereas liberkey is garbage
[10:56] <L3top> talpur__: The url is wrong. You might try using subversion anyway.
[10:57] <ElixirVitae> though both releases seem old ones
[10:57] <krakenlaken> Since the command is not finding any packages..is there another place I can get the linux alsa driver modules? I'm over my head in this.
[10:57] <talpur__> but when I use the same command in LAB pc it was working good but on my laptop it gives the error
[10:57] <L3top> Either the site is down, or the url is malformed.
[10:58] <L3top> Put it in a browser and see.
[10:58] <talpur__> ok L3top
[10:58] <[x]> jamestunnicliffe: how you changed your host ?
[10:59] <farrioth> krakenlaken: I came in late, fill me in on what you're doing?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> howto completly remove zeitgeist
[11:00] <ThinkT510> !info zeitgeist
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  here's something http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust:tnx leme ake a look
[11:01] <krakenlaken> Thank you farrioth. Well I booted today (12.04) and my sound wasn't working anymore. Alsamixer showes no file or directory and the card is named 'dummy device'. I followed a guide on all this until this command: sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) alsa-driver alsa-utils  ; showes no packages found.
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  and also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773332
[11:02] <wejq> hi, can i have some help ? I try to install 12.04 on my laptop, that has some partitions yet, 2 ntfs, one restricted by system, 2 ext4s and one linux swap. But when i insert my cd, and run liveCD (as i am now) and installer cant see any partitions, it can see only /dev/sda as unallocated place, so do gparted. Fstabs are ok, and on this partitions i have data, that i can use by windows on NTFS's. Here is some data: http://i.imgur.com/0i6E
[11:02] <talpur__> thanks L3top,,,now its working,,it has spell mistake,url was wrong
[11:02] <wejq> no fstabs but fdisk
[11:03] <krakenlaken> shows* ..^_^
[11:05] <masuman> Hi all,I have a with ubuntu I have accidentally del eted my home directory and cant log in to any of the accounts, can someone help?
[11:05] <farrioth> krakenlaken: What is the output of uname -r ?
[11:05] <krakenlaken> 3.2.0-31-generic-pae
[11:05] <masuman> There is no output
[11:06] <masuman> I cant access anything
[11:06] <farrioth> masuman: You can re- mkdir your home and chown it to yourself, but you won't get your files back...
[11:06] <JoFo> Hello. It seems the XHTML tags <ruby>, <rb> and <rt> are not supported by Firefox 15.0.1 on Ubuntu Precise. How can I add support for ruby text?
[11:06] <masuman> ok thanks
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> masuman  boot a live cd, try to recover the files from there
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> !recover| masuman
[11:07] <masuman> I have a notebook, if I boot it using usb will it work the same?
[11:08] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Can you point me to the HOWTO you were following?
[11:08] <farrioth> masuman: Yes, should do.
[11:09] <masuman> Thanks for the infomation
[11:09] <krakenlaken> farrioth: a user in this channel used !audio to a helping bot that gave https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting . In the following link I followed all commands then switched to the ALSA guide, until I got blocked by the aformentioned command.
[11:10] <crizis> JoFo, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-ruby/?src=search
[11:11] <JoFo> Merci. J’essaie ça.
[11:11] <crizis> JoFo, chrome is the only browser that implements ruby, IE has partial support, others have nothing, except that ^ user extention for firefox
[11:11] <paulens12> jofo, pourquoi vous parlez francais?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !fr|JoFo:
 Merci. J’essaie ça. ← I meant: Tank you. I’m trying that.
[11:14] <jdw> Does Ubuntu have a firewall GUI with the default installation ?
[11:14] <ThinkT510> !ufw | jdw
[11:15] <ThinkT510> jdw: not by default i think
[11:16] <ms_> hey!
[11:17] <jdw> I see. I wonder why there isn't one yet. Security should be top priority I think
[11:17] <farrioth> krakenlaken: What does `lspci | grep Audio` say?
[11:18] <ms_> I think, lspci is for displaying all your material
[11:18] <jdw> at least a decent user-friendly way to manange the firewall. Isn't Ubuntu all about user-friendliness ?
 jofo, pourquoi vous parlez francais? ← Parce que c’est ma langue maternelle, que je suis connecté à plusieurs canaux dont certains francophones et que, par distraction, j’ai spontanément tapé ces quelques mots en français. [Translation: <paulens12> jofo, why are you speaking French? ← Because that’s my native language, because I’m connected to several channels, some of them in French, and because, by distr
[11:18] <JoFo> action, I’ve spontaneously typed those few words in French.]
[11:19] <krakenlaken> farriot: returns nothing
[11:19] <krakenlaken> farrioth*
[11:19] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Can you pastebin all of the output of lspci for me?
[11:20] <krakenlaken> farrioth: yes, I'll do it at once
[11:21] <krakenlaken> farrioth: it is here http://pastebin.com/5QXPKFQ9
 JoFo, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-ruby/?src=search ← I’ve installed that and restarted Firefox. There are several accounts on my computer. Should I install that add on separately for each account or is it installed once for all the accounts?
[11:22] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Thanks.
[11:22] <ThinkT510> jdw: i don't know of any novice users wanting to edit firewall settings
[11:22] <crizis> JoFo, for every account i guess, no idea
[11:23] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Are you sure you have a soundcard?  I can't see one listed... :/
[11:24] <farrioth> JoFo: You'll need to install addons for each account as they're stored in the firefox profile.
[11:24] <krakenlaken> farrioth:  Yes. It's integrated A8N-SLI card. It used to be one the best boards around some years ago. Plus the audio worked fine until today. Installed Ubuntu just a week ago.
[11:24] <krakenlaken> farrioth: A8N-SLI motherboard*
[11:25] <yebs> aaaa
[11:26] <yebs> aloooo.............
[11:26] <root_> Hi
[11:26] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | root_
[11:26] <yebs> ooo..........
[11:27] <ms_> bbbbbbbbbbbbye bye!
[11:27] <rezaev> hi!im russia. русских тут не вмдели?
[11:27] <ThinkT510> !ru | rezaev
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !ru|rezaev:
[11:27] <yebs> babai........
[11:27] <jdw> ThinkT510: true, but I've tried those gui frontends, and they don't have a consistent feel with Ubuntus ecosystem. Would be nice if Ubuntu packed it's own
[11:28] <yebs> testing 1 2 3..........
[11:28] <ThinkT510> !brainstorm | jdw
[11:28] <rezaev> fuck
[11:28] <yebs> ubuntu studio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:28] <jdw> ThinkT510: will do
[11:28] <cfhowlett> yebs: what about ubuntustudio?
[11:28] <satellit_e> is there anyway to do an install of ubuntu that will not add other installs to grub. I am installing to SD card and want it to not list the HD on the computer or transffer grub to it
[11:28] <yebs> faster but poor............
[11:29] <yebs> i install to laptop hd
[11:29] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Thanks, I'll look into it...
[11:29] <cfhowlett> satellit_e: you can choose NOT to install grub during install
[11:30] <jdw> ThinkT510: that page doesn't load well on a netbook, can barely see the search box, possible brainstorm idea?   xD
[11:30] <satellit_e> I am using elementary jupiter Ubuntu 10.10
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> 10.10 is dead
[11:30] <satellit_e> how will SD boot then if no grub on it?
[11:31] <yebs> my laptop is acer aspire 4730z with linux ubuntu studio os
[11:31] <yebs> first time use linux...........
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> satellit_e  first upgrade to a release that is not !eol, then ask again
[11:31] <yebs> Malaysia.............
[11:31] <krakenlaken> farrioth:  Is there any way to nuke every setting ever made to default in the Ubuntu installation? I have no data or preferences set and only a minor number of programs installed? Or is the only way to format the disk and reinstall?
[11:32] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Do you still have an install with working sound?  The output of lsmod might be helpful.
[11:32] <Eagleman> Hello i think i am having some problems with my NFS connection on my Qnap NAS, i have a lot of guest os's running on Esxi and sometimes they are loosing the connection to their Virtual Disk, causes them to freeze, any idea where i start troubleshooting? so far i have been unable to find anything.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> yebs  ask in #ubuntustudio
[11:32] <krakenlaken> farrioth: No...I formated the windows I had and installed Ubuntu 12.04 from a usb stick.
[11:32] <satellit_e> waiting for elementary luna to get out of beta (Ubuntu 12.04) it has same problem - I just installed it also
[11:33] <satellit_e> to SD 64 GB class 10
[11:33] <krakenlaken> farrioth: Ill post the lsmod now
[11:33] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Getting rid of dotfiles in your home should do most of that, but won't revert changes made by installing packages etc.
[11:33] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Did you have working sound on linux before?
[11:34] <satellit_e> MonkeyDust: only way to fix is to remove laptop HD
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> satellit_e  to fix what?
[11:34] <satellit_e> avoid grub collecting and moving HD to Sd card
[11:35] <satellit_e> grub listing
[11:35] <jdw> ThinkT510: there's been an idea since almost 4 years now  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1282/
[11:35] <krakenlaken> farrioth: http://pastebin.com/5ZMKGANh - I never had linux before on this machine, but as I said I had audio since installation. Dunno what I updated or what command did this horrible complication..
[11:35] <krakenlaken> farrioth: should I delete every .file in home and hope for the best? :-)
[11:37] <ThinkT510> jdw: last comment in 2010, make a new idea
[11:37] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Don't delete the files yet.  So you had audio working on Ubuntu until it suddenly stopped?
[11:37] <jdw> will do
[11:37] <krakenlaken> farrioth: Yes. I installed the restricted pack for flash and stuff and all worked.
[11:38] <pentagon> hi
[11:38] <satellit_e> is there a way to make separate grub entry on SD card on Ubuntu 12.04 without moving laptop Hard Disk grub to it also?
[11:38] <farrioth> krakenlaken: Run alsamixer and check all the channels are unmuted.
[11:39] <krakenlaken> farrioth: Today I started and no audio. Alsamixer shows 'no file or directory'. I tried uninstalling PulseAudio like some guide, then reinstalling, then alsa base purging and reinstalling...drove me mad
[11:39] <xrfang> hi, how can I remove the on screen keyboard from the login screen of 12.10?
[11:40] <ThinkT510> xrfang: #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|xrfang:
[11:40] <xrfang> ok
[11:40] <krakenlaken> farrioth: Alsamixer command says 'no such file or directory'. Said so from beginning ^_^. The alsa utils are installed though.
[11:41] <farrioth> krakenlaken: (I wasn't in #ubuntu at the beginning.)  I'm out of thoughts, except to perhaps look at apt logs and work out which packages were changed around the time sound broke.
[11:41] <sasuke> hello guys, Can anyone tell me which version ( 10.{04,10}, 11.{04,10}, 12.04 ) is best in Ubuntu. My problem is its getting hung when i am using ( chromium , thunderbird , skype & xchat) i am using 12.04
[11:42] <farrioth> krakenlaken: I'd like to help more, but it's past midnight and I must be getting some sleep.  Best of luck.
[11:42] <dr_willis> sasuke: 12.10 is due outsoon
[11:42] <krakenlaken> farrioth: O yes forgot sorry. Well, then thanks for the time you spent trying to help me!
[11:42] <cfhowlett> sasuke: LTS all the way
[11:43] <dr_willis> i never limit myself to just lst. ;-)
[11:43] <dr_willis> sasuke: details of whats hanging may point to a fix.
[11:43] <ecclesiastes> krakenlaken: my sound isn't working either, do you still have a volume icon on your taskbar?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  the latest ubuntu is 12.04, 12.10 will soon be released
[11:44] <krakenlaken> ecclesiastes: it disappeared but it came back on after some long-ass command in terminal. It didn't bring back sound though..
[11:45] <yebs> ooooo..............
[11:45] <sasuke> dr_willis, due to high memory because of chromium & thunderbird
[11:45] <yebs> testing...............
[11:45] <dr_willis> sasuke: and your system specs are?
[11:46] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, i found 10.10 is working best in my laptop
[11:46] <mnice> hello
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  10.10 is no longer supported
[11:46] <sasuke> dr_willis, core 2 duo, 4GB ram, 320 hd
[11:46] <mnice> i have little problem with installation ... however i have set my network manually the installer still says that there's not accssible internet: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/53689267
[11:47] <mnice> what can i do in order to fix that ?
[11:48] <geirha> mnice: Set up the network via network manager instead. That is, via the icon in the upper right corner
[11:48] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, not always, but most of the time its hunging when i am using chromium , thunderbird & skype.  Once i rebooted it will work... even virtual-consoles is not working
[11:49] <extor> I have russian characters in my shell showing up as question marks. I just installed the russian locale files but still nothing. Is there a one liner that can make me see the cyrillic characters without wrecking my lang=EN setup in the process?
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  try upgrading to a supported release, it may solve a lot of the technical issues
[11:49] <mnice> geirha: hmm .. thanks
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> x
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  or report a !bug in launchpad
[11:52] <ow> Pici: /mode #ubuntu +b *!*@nl4x.mullvad.net$##fix_your_connection
[11:53] <ow> or that, I guess :s
[11:54] <sasuke> MonkeyDust,  my sistem is uptodate. is there any solution that i can remove dashboard and get the old menu bar
[11:54] <ow> now you can /mode -r
[11:54] <dr_willis> !10.10 | sasuke
[11:54] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, i want to reduce the effects & graphics
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  don't use compiz, reduce resources in gconf, if you're using fallback/classic
[11:55] <dr_willis> lubuntu uses less resources sasuke   it may help
[11:55] <fidel_> hi - any syslog/syslog-ng webfrontend solution you guys could recommend? background: i want to setup some central syslog/syslog-ng server/source for my network but am pretty sure its only useable for all users if there is a gui/frontend. any recommandations? in particular: anyone working with logzilla(free-part)?
[11:56] <dr_willis> but i wonder if it really is a ram issue.
[11:56] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, i didnt install compiz..
[11:56] <dr_willis> sasuke: unity uses compiz
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  then use xfce or lxde, it's a lot lighter
[11:57] <dr_willis> unity2d does not use compiz
[11:57] <sasuke> dr_willis, ok
[12:00] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  I changed my language settings in KDE from german to english...  the problem is:   gnome/gtk  programs are still in german. Does anyone know how to change that? ( I have only installed KDE interface)
[12:00] <mnice> geirha: ```echo "manual" | sudo tee /etc/init/network-manager.override''' is this valid method for disabling NM ans sticking with etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:01] <llutz> fidel_: just out of couriosity: why should "all users" read system-logs? that's admins job
[12:01] <fidel_> llutz: sorry - all admins is what i ment with 'all'
[12:02] <llutz> fidel_: ah ok, but sorry that i cannot help you
[12:02] <fidel_> llutz: np ;)
[12:02] <geirha> mnice: I don't know. It's a live session, so try it and see I guess.
[12:03] <catphish_> i wish ubuntu didn't insist on making a user during installation
[12:03] <llutz> catphish_: since they disabled root-account, they need to create one
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> catphish_  how would you use it without a user?
[12:04] <sasuke> MonkeyDust, thankq. i found that lxde is uses less cpu and less ram than other environments
[12:04] <WHAT_UP> i'm ssh'd into a machine without x11 forwarding. is there a simple way to take a screenshot of the active desktop and save it somewhere?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> my pleasure sasuke
[12:07] <llutz> WHAT_UP: "import" might help
[12:07] <catphish_> the process of logging in as the user, setting root's password, logging in as root, deleteing the user is a bit of a pain
[12:07] <WHAT_UP> llutz: i saw that, but i don't know how to get the currently active desktop if i can't forward x
[12:07] <llutz> catphish_: .. and not the supposed way to use it
[12:08] <ThinkT510> catphish_: you are never meant to be root all the time
[12:08] <catphish_> llutz: having a single user created might be useful for new users, but not for people who have more complicated configurations
[12:08] <llutz> catphish_: sry that't nonsense
[12:08] <k1l_> catphish_: that is not supposed to be the ubuntu way
[12:09] <catphish_> llutz: how so?
[12:09] <ThinkT510> catphish_: you are talking rubbish
[12:09] <WHAT_UP> llutz: hmm. i think i got it, but the screen is locked. no easy way of seeing what's under the unlocked screen, i'm guessing?
[12:09] <catphish_> why is a single user that i need to delete helpful?
[12:09] <llutz> catphish_: if your setup bases on an active root accoutn, you shoudl rethink your setup
[12:09] <k1l_> catphish_: why would you need a only root user system?
[12:10] <llutz> catphish_: root is for administrating task, not for the daily work. so you always need a user (except embedded systems maybe)
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> catphish_  maybe you could use something that suits you more, so not ubuntu
[12:10] <catphish_> k1l_: what about people who wish to use nis, or those (like me) who have automated scripts to create and maintain their user accounts
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> catphish_  or submit a constructive idea in !brainstorm
[12:11] <llutz> catphish_: where in that setup does the created user disturb your workflow? you can easily use sudo
[12:12] <catphish_> llutz: 2 reasons, firstly, the automatically created user is likely to conflict in UID with my existing users and 2, deleteing the user is an extra step
[12:12] <catphish_> i just find it odd that the user is a compulsary rather than optional step
[12:12] <zilvukas> window split
[12:12] <zilvukas> sorry
[12:13] <ThinkT510> catphish_: it is mandatory because you need a user to use the system properly (root is never intended for everyday tasks)
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> catphish_  do you have an expample of a system where a user is not compulsary?
[12:13] <catphish_> ThinkT510: logging in initially to install a management daemon or configure an authentication service is hardly an everyday task
[12:14] <llutz> catphish_: i'd use debian then if you don't like this "sudo instead of root construct" , which is essential for ubuntu
[12:14] <axel> ola
[12:14] <ThinkT510> catphish_: and you can't do that from a regular user?
[12:14] <crizis> llutz, enabling root in ubuntu is just matter of giving root a password
[12:14] <k1l> catphish_: if you dont like the ubuntu way (sudo) than dont use ubuntu. thats it
[12:14] <llutz> crizis: thats not the point
[12:15] <catphish_> ThinkT510: no, because the regular user likely to have a UID conflict with new users
[12:15] <WHAT_UP> llutz: awesome, got it working. had to "export DISPLAY=:0; gnome-screensaver-command-d; import -display :0 -window root blah.png" =)
[12:15] <k1l> catphish_: honestly, that is just a matter of your scripts :/
[12:16] <mnice> geirha: i've just successfully installed buntu and found something what i consider as serious fails .. is worth to report my opinion that selecting default disk partitioning layout should separate /home from / ?
[12:16] <mnice> what it actually did not
[12:17] <catphish_> k1l: the point is that in this case, and many other large scale installations, an initial user is an unnecessary headache, and moreover it can (though i realise this is my own fault) be a security risk if forgotten about
[12:17] <s7p3rio1> hi guys
[12:18] <catphish_> and the model is broken by the fact that the user can't perform the administrative task of deleting itself :)
[12:18] <geirha> mnice: The default has always been to create two partitions. / and a swap
[12:18] <s7p3rio1> i need some geek or savvy to help me with ubunut :(
[12:18] <catphish_> anyway, just my opinion
[12:18] <llutz> catphish_: that breaks down to:  ubuntu is the wrong distro for your task.
[12:19] <catphish_> llutz: not really true, it works very well for everything else :)
[12:19] <gordonjcp> catphish_: what's wrong with having an initial user?
[12:19] <catphish_> gordonjcp: read up
[12:19] <gordonjcp> catphish_: I read up, I saw vague references to it being a "risk"
[12:20] <mnice> geirha: and it's wrong in my opinion
[12:20] <gordonjcp> catphish_: which doesn't really make any sense
[12:20] <mnice> geirha: default should separate /home from /
[12:20] <gordonjcp> catphish_: if you don't have an initial user, how do you connect to your servers?
[12:21] <catphish_> gordonjcp: i was commenting that in my environment it's not helpful, as i only have to delete it before i can create my normal users
[12:21] <gordonjcp> catphish_: why not just create the initial user as one of your normal users, possibly you?
[12:21] <catphish_> gordonjcp: a more normal flow for me is to configure authentication initial authentication as root
[12:21] <gordonjcp> catphish_: you're going to need a wheel user anyway
[12:21] <gordonjcp> ah
[12:21] <gordonjcp> catphish_: but you don't actually allow login as root, right?
[12:21] <sisterrr> hi. i'm trying to follow this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450      i have uninstalled everything that had ati/fglrx on its name through the software center, i have a AMD 6770m card that is an intel/amd hybrid, and i want to know if there's anything else i should install/uninstall before following the instructions
[12:22] <geirha> mnice: Not that big a deal in my opinion, but it might be useful to have an option for it in the installer
[12:22] <catphish_> gordonjcp: not once the system is configured, i have a daemon that manages my users and config files, once its running it disabled ssh root login, though i still like to have a root poassword for console login
[12:22] <gordonjcp> catphish_: erk
[12:22] <gordonjcp> you seriously set a root password?
[12:22] <catphish_> i do for console access, yes
[12:23] <gordonjcp> catphish_: I tend to work on the assumption that if I see a Linux machine with a valid root password, it's been cracked
[12:23] <gordonjcp> unless I'm *certain* it hasn't been
[12:23] <catphish_> if i see a machine with root enabled for ssh i worry :)
[12:23] <gordonjcp> passwd should be patched to dd /dev/zero over all the disks on a machine if it has a password set for root
[12:24] <catphish_> lol
[12:24] <Monotoko> hey guys... I formatted my partition table to GPT (I was trying to do something - but it doesn't matter now) - and now I can't get Ubuntu booted even from a memory stick - it keeps giving me a "Machine Check Error" and catches in a reboot loop. Can anybody help?
[12:24] <gordonjcp> that'll soon teach people to stop doing that retarded stuff
[12:24] <catphish_> the problem i have with the initial user is that it can conflict with the UID of imported users, and also i need to remember to delete it
[12:25] <catphish_> an initial user with a password and wheel and ssh access is equally insecure to a root password with ssh access
[12:25] <gordonjcp> Monotoko: unplug the hard disk, see if the fault persists
[12:25] <catphish_> the only difference is that my initial user tends to get an insecure password because i intend to delete it shortly afterwards
[12:25] <k1l> catphish_: your usecase is not  that of a typical ubuntu user
[12:26] <gordonjcp> catphish_: no, because any time they sudo it is logged
[12:26] <catphish_> k1l: that may be true
[12:26] <gordonjcp> root accounts need to die
[12:26] <catphish_> logging isn't much use once they've got root
[12:26] <k1l> catphish_: so i dont see the point why you demand that feature. that will only confuse the typical ubuntu user
[12:26] <gordonjcp> catphish_: uh, that's why you are careful about how you configure sudo...
[12:26] <catphish_> demand isn't a very nice word
[12:26] <catphish_> i just wanted to discuss it
[12:27] <gordonjcp> catphish_: most distros create an initial user these days
[12:27] <gordonjcp> it makes more sense that way
[12:27] <catphish_> and to point out that it doesn't meet the needs of larger users
[12:27] <k1l> catphish_: yes. but as you ahve mentioned this is a very special usecase
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> catphish_  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is the support channel, to find solutions for problems
[12:27] <k1l> catphish_: "larger users" can remove the initial user, like you used to
[12:28] <catphish_> yes
[12:28] <k1l> so the only problem is your "lazyness" or your "forgetfullness"
[12:29] <satellit_e> ?join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <Monotoko>  hey guys... I formatted my partition table to GPT (I was trying to do something - but it doesn't matter now) - and now I can't get Ubuntu booted even from a memory stick - it keeps giving me a "Machine Check Error" and catches in a reboot loop. Can anybody help?
[12:30] <Monotoko> I need this laptop :(
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Monotoko: unplug the hard disk, see if the fault persists
[12:31] <satellit_e> Monotoko: can you mount HD from a live CD
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:32] <Monotoko> satellit_e, I don't have a CD and the only thing capable of writing one is my laptop (my desktops CD drives are screwed -.-)
[12:32] <satellit_e> write a live CD to USB and boot from it?
[12:33] <skipper> hi all, i have a short question, how can i see the capacity of a non mounted hdd?
[12:33] <Monotoko> satellit_e, hmmm il try that
[12:34] <Monotoko> yeah pretty sure it's unetbootin that's having the issue
[12:34] <Monotoko> how do I do it manually?
[12:37] <dr_willis> you can dd or otherways image the iso directly to flash
[12:37] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux has numerous other tools aand ways to do it also
[12:37] <Nunnsby> Hey guys, easiest method for MS login authentication? Radius or Kerberos? Unix server running website, no Samba required. Website has local logins. Unix Server required to auth console and ssh against MS servers.
[12:38] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux is a web site. ;)
[12:39] <vivek-tomar__> hi
[12:39] <dr_willis> hello'
[12:40] <vivek-tomar__> dr_willis :can you please help me
[12:40] <dr_willis> depends on the issue. ;)
[12:40] <kaste> Nunnsby: direct ldap connection?
[12:41] <vivek-tomar__> :) i have got stucted while using dd command in my ubuntu 12.04 i have got a lot bigger size hdd that the original one
[12:41] <vivek-tomar__> then how can i manage that extra space
[12:41] <Nunnsby> kaste: yeah, on the same lan as the ms server
[12:41] <Nunnsby> kaste: so that would be the easiest then?
[12:41] <vivek-tomar__> dir_willis:i have got stucted while using dd command in my ubuntu 12.04 i have got a lot bigger size hdd that the original one .then how can i manage that extra space
[12:41] <imgx64> What's the recommended MTA for an Ubuntu mail server? exim? postfix?
[12:42] <dr_willis> vivek-tomar__:  use gparted to rezise and expand
[12:42] <Nunnsby> kaste: using radius for all the network kit already, thought it might work for the server, but see there is more support for ldap and kerberos, but kerberos appears more to be about network and other access, not just authentication
[12:42] <vivek-tomar__> dr_willis: i mean before executing command i want to know where this place be get adjusted by dd command
[12:43] <dr_willis> vivek-tomar__:  dd dosent adjust. it images the whole thine unless you tell it to only do part of a hd/specific size.
[12:44] <dr_willis> vivek-tomar__:  you may want to use clonezilla to move  a smaller hd to a bigger one
[12:46] <vivek-tomar__> dr_wilis: ok got the point dd images the whole thine ... now i restore that image to other hdd which is lot bigger... now what about the extra space ... last question please
[12:47] <dr_willis> vivek-tomar__:  dd to the new hd. use gparted from a live cd to resize
[12:47] <dr_willis> either expand the partition, or just make new one to use as some data partitions.
[12:48] <vivek-tomar__> dr_willis : ok that extra space will remain there as unformatted.
[12:48] <vivek-tomar__> dr_willis: that's the point right ?
[12:49] <dr_willis> vivek-tomar__:  err.. not if you tell gparted to put it in the  other filesystem
[12:50] <dr_willis> example ussage case. i have a 8gb install on a usb flash. i clone it to a 500gb hd.  i have 400+ gb at the end of the hd...  i use gparted to partition that and use it as /home/
[12:50] <dr_willis> OR i could have gparted expand the 8gb on the hd. into the 400gb.. and have the whole hd used for /
[12:50] <mnice> hmm .. another question: can I somehow increase the threshold for dragging windows by border ? it's very tiny right now and i need to try very hard to grab the border for resizing window
[12:51] <vivek-tomar__> ok great thanks a lot
[12:51] <imgx64> Is there a way to know which packages are in the server CD without actually installing it? Is it listed somewhere online?
[12:51] <vivek-tomar__> dr_willis : thanks
[12:52] <fusion27> Alright, just set up a server for someone, this is my first not-for-me server set up.  We don
[12:52] <dr_willis> imgx64:  ive noticed the distrowatch site list versions of specific packagees per distro for comparison. in a nice table
[12:52] <imgx64> dr_willis: Thanks, I'll check.
[12:52] <dr_willis> but you want to know what all comes installed by 'default' you mean?
[12:52] <fusion27> 't want to "turn the safety off" completely but we want this user to be able to set up new users, run sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get install for new stuff, chgrp, chmod
[12:53] <fusion27> I'm looking at documentation for visudo but wanted to check with you guys if this makes sense
[12:53] <kaste> It doesn't really
[12:53] <fusion27> Or how you guys handle this
[12:53] <fusion27> kaste: are you responding to me?
[12:54] <VinceBrowning> Hello all
[12:54] <cfhowlett> VinceBrowning: greetings
[12:54] <gener1c> i am trying to use hostapd with an rtl8187 card i configured the driver to be rtl8187 in the hostapd.conf but i get an error that its an invalid driver
[12:54] <kaste> if you can chmod and chgrp the first attack vector is a self built suid binary which allows you to do just about anything
[12:55] <fusion27> kaste: is there best practice "rule" to do what I'm trying to do?
[12:55] <kaste> Nunnsby: i think you will want to setup samba with ldap and kerberos for what you are after
[12:55] <fusion27> They wanted me to set up a Java app server for them
[12:55] <Nunnsby> kaste: cool, thanks, I'll check it out.
[12:55] <fusion27> It's set up, but we want them to be able to maintain this server themselves
[12:55] <imgx64> dr_willis: I just checked the Ubuntu page (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu ), and it only compares different releases, nothing about the server CD.
[12:55] <kaste> fusion27: i don't know your situation but i doubt there is a really safe way
[12:56] <imgx64> dr_willis: Yes, I want to know the default packages installed.
[12:56] <kaste> depends on your degree of trust and distrust
[12:56] <fusion27> kaste: we can turn on admin rights for them, they're paying for the server, if they mess it up, it's their server that gets hosed
[12:56] <kaste> if you set it up for them i'd say you are afraid of them cluelessly destroying their own server, then give them root and backup carefully (maybe even with imaging)
[12:58] <kaste> i mean you can also give them the other protection, since they are unlikely to want to hack it, it isn't too bad of an idea. you probably want to give them sudo rights on all the commands you allow them
[12:58] <kaste> instead of chmod and chgrp it'd be better to work with the sticky bits if that is possible
[12:59] <VinceBrowning> Can anyone tell me a good place to start learning how to start and configure a server (with multiple services) and how to properly secure it? I've been an open source supporter my whole life but I am new to servers and network security and not even close to being an advanced linux user..
[12:59] <kaste> VinceBrowning: which ones? That's a big topic
[13:00] <pinosb> ciao
[13:01] <VinceBrowning> Well, I want to set up a server to host a small website for myself and a few friends that will allow us to communicate and share files, and keep the small group informed of events
[13:01] <pinosb> !list
[13:01] <kaste> Sounds like web server only VinceBrowning, any decent apache tutorial should do
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> VinceBrowning  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:02] <VinceBrowning> alright.. Thank you.
[13:02] <mhr> llutz  got the script working with ssh keys instead of expect script. thank you all.
[13:06] <ngomes> any vsftpd expert ?
[13:07] <ngomes> config problem
[13:07] <dr_willis> ngomes:  should i take a wild guess.. and anonyous users can login. but not normal usres?
[13:07] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:08] <llutz> non-experts hint: rean man-page :)
[13:08] <llutz> ngomes: ask your question and see if somebody can help
[13:09] <shomon> how do I stop apache from running as a service each time the computer is turned on ?
[13:09] <shomon> it's in /etc/init.d maybe do I just change the permissions on that file?
[13:09] <shomon> or do I have to remove it from there?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> ngomes  there are plenty tutorials, here's one: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialWebSiteConfig.html#VSFTPD
[13:09] <dr_willis> shomon:  the upstart docs page detail 3 ways  to disable upstart services
[13:10] <shomon> upstart docs?
[13:10] <Lesterwood> guys, i accidentally managed to delete one of my partitions, containing files
[13:10] <shomon> oh well googling them thanks
[13:10] <dr_willis> shomon:  it its ren from some whatver.conf  you can rename it to whatever.dontrun
[13:10] <Lesterwood> this happened after a friend tried to do windows recovery on my machine
[13:10] <dr_willis> shomon:  check for 'upstart cookbook'
[13:10] <shomon> it's /etc/init.d/apache2
[13:10] <Lesterwood> how would you reccomend going about recovering the data
[13:11] <Lesterwood> this is version 11.04
[13:11] <ArcaneWater> Hello, can someone help me why my ubuntu installation does not detect already installed WIndows 7? http://pastebin.com/jcGva4cY what should i do?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> !recover > Lesterwood
[13:11] <llutz> Lesterwood: you might try testdisk/photorec to recover
[13:11] <OerHeks> Lesterwood, maybe testdisk can do something, no guarantee for saving your data
[13:13] <Lesterwood> OerHeks, well, i havent touched the partition
[13:13] <Lesterwood> i have a quesiton about testdisk
[13:13] <Lesterwood> do i need to unmount all drives for this
[13:13] <Lesterwood> or is that only for gparted
[13:13] <Lesterwood> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[13:14] <Lesterwood> When changing the partition table on your hard drive, you must ensure that no partition on the disk is mounted. This includes swap space. The easiest way to accomplish this is to run the live cd. Parted is installed on the base Ubuntu system. Once at the desktop, open a terminal and run_:
[13:14] <Lesterwood> Now, im not certain if this statement only applies to gparted
[13:14] <OerHeks> Lesterwood, use the gmparted live iso. it cantains testdisk also, drives must be unmounted, yes.
[13:14] <Lesterwood> i see
[13:14] <OerHeks> or gparted live iso
[13:14] <Lesterwood> well, i have a linux 11.04 livedisk
[13:15] <Lesterwood> this will work correct?
[13:15] <ngomes> MonkeyDust, no , i want to chroot a user to a homedir but gives me this message : 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[13:15] <OerHeks> if testdisk isn'tt standard, you can install it in your live environment
[13:18] <llutz> ngomes: make sure your user is not able to write to your "local_root" dir
[13:20] <mnice> servus .. one more Q:
[13:21] <mnice> is there some way other than writing our services to run default X session in Xvnc ?
[13:21] <llutz> ngomes: see http://bit.ly/xXbI9j
[13:23] <ujjain>   513  update-rc.d -f vnstat remove
[13:23] <ujjain>   514  update-rc.d vnstat defaults
[13:23] <ujjain> this should make a service start at boot time, right?
[13:24] <talpu232> any one has idea about using GEM5 with ubuntu
[13:25] <PaSsI> which application should i download from software centre to make bootable pen drives
[13:26] <DJones> PaSsI: I use USB Creator, as far as U remember, it should be installed by default
[13:26] <crizis> PaSsI, no need to download anything, included already (search for 'startup disk creator'
[13:26] <crizis> PaSsI, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:26] <PaSsI> crizis, thanks
[13:27] <PaSsI> DJones, thanks got that too
[13:27] <OerHeks> PaSsI, you should have usb-creator , or use unetbootin win/mac/linux
[13:29] <leehambley> hi all, can anyone tell me what black CPU bars mean on htop?
[13:29] <leehambley> I think it's IOwait, given that I have monngodb freaking out with a 45Gb databse: http://cl.ly/image/3a2o1k2D3S1q
[13:29] <Eagleman> usage?
[13:29] <ArcaneWater> how should i run update-grub when i already have windows installed s there any way to run it?
[13:30] <leehambley> I have the extended cpu display on, so I know it's one of "System/IO-Wait/Hard-IRQ/Soft-IRQ/Steal/Guest"
[13:30] <cfhowlett> ArcaneWater: sudo apt-get update
[13:30] <cfhowlett> ArcaneWater: urr, no; sorry.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater, sudo update-grub
[13:31] <ezel> so i was the guy who was trying to retrive lost partitions
[13:31] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj yes i tryed thath but in this live preview ubuntu, and it gives me error ....
[13:32] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater, are you trying to repair grub from the live cd?
[13:32] <PaSsI> through start up disk creator m not able to create windows 7 bootable usb......
[13:32] <ezel> it seems i am unable to install testdisk
[13:32] <ezel> i am using a livecd
[13:32] <ezel> sudo apt-get install testdisk yields nothing
[13:33] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj i want to create dual boot, and my installation does not detect Windows 7 when it comes where i should choose install them by side....One recommendation was thath i run update-grub but how as i dont have ubuntu yet installed...
[13:35] <BluesKaj>  ArcaneWater can you boot into your ubuntu install ?
[13:36] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj I can choose boot from and then i choose usb and then i click install ubuntu,....And i go thrue first settings and then where i should choose install them by side it gives me that there were no os detected...
[13:37] <ezel> resolved, figured out how to get testdisk
[13:38] <BluesKaj> ok ArcaneWater , I recommend you make a ext4 partition for ubuntu first , then install ubuntu to that , you can do so with gparted live cd / media
[13:38] <ezel> ok guys, i have reached a menu asking what partition table type
[13:38] <ezel> the options are intel, efi, ...
[13:39] <ezel> this machine is a windows and a linux dualboot
[13:39] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj i have boot-repair info if it helps you anything
[13:39] <ezel> is it intel or efi?
[13:39] <ezel> efi gpt
[13:39] <llutz> ezel: intel most likely
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !who
[13:40] <ezel> note, the files i lost are my porn
[13:40] <ezel> lol
[13:41] <ezel> so it is searching, thanks for your help guys
[13:41] <talpu271> what is difference between ubuntu inspiration and generic
[13:42] <ezel> talpu271, not to be rude but, did you try google?
[13:42] <PaSsI> startup disk is not detecting my windows 7.iso file
[13:42] <talpu271> yes  ,,,but couldn't understand inspiration
[13:43] <ardchoille> PaSsI: Windows7.iso file???
[13:43] <ThinkT510> talpu271: what are you referring to by inspiration? is this some obscure derivitive?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> ezel  don't say to use google, when people ask help, please
[13:43] <PaSsI> ardchoille, yes
[13:43] <ardchoille> PaSsI: what is that?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater, boot repair only works on grub after you install ubuntu...grub will only install with ubuntu
[13:44] <talpu271> at my LAB pc the promt is talpur@talpur-OptiPlex-380  ....and on my laptop not sure the exact now but prompt is instead of optiplex written inspiration..I am new on ubuntu
[13:44] <PaSsI> i want to install win7 for a few period of time and i have the image file (.iso) and i want to make a bootable pendrive of it
[13:45] <ardchoille> PaSsI: I'm sorry, I could be wrong, but that sounds like piracy to me
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> PaSsI  better ask in ##windows
[13:45] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj so any other way thath i can fix thath problem with w7 detection?
[13:45] <talpu271> ThinkT510
[13:45] <ThinkT510> talpu271: what does hostname say
[13:46] <llutz> talpu271: those are hostnames, i guess your machines are made by DELL
[13:46] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater, once you have ubuntu install run sudo update-grub and W7 will be detected
[13:46] <talpu271> how to check host name...i don't have much experience with linix
[13:46] <talpu271> yes
[13:46] <BluesKaj> install=installed
[13:46] <llutz> talpu271: type "hostname" into a terminal
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> PaSsI  http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/581/unetbootin-windows-581.exe/download?use_mirror=heanet
[13:46] <ThinkT510> talpu271: open a terminal and type hostname
[13:47] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj yes but i will need to foramt disk ^^? Currently i have C disc (Windows) and D (free pratition)...
[13:47] <ezel> ahhhh that feeling when waiting for a diskcheck to finish...
[13:47] <PaSsI> MonkeyDust, but i want to make a bootable pendrive from ubuntu
[13:47] <PaSsI> ardchoille, i want to try it for 30 days
[13:47] <talpu271> at my lab PC shows talpur-OptiPlex-380....my laptop is in room I will check
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> PaSsI  the use unetbootin from ubuntu, it's in the software center
[13:48] <talpu271> when I write hostname  ThinkT510
[13:48] <PaSsI> MonkeyDust, thanks a ton
[13:48] <ardchoille> PaSsI: sorry, I can't help with Windows as I haven't used it in ten years
[13:49] <PaSsI> ardchoille, its okey friend
[13:49] <BluesKaj> arcne , if you have a free space partition already setup then format the free space to ext4 , also create a swapfile equal to or larger than your RAM
[13:49] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater,^
[13:49] <talpu271> ThinkT510...I am asking b/c I am working with GEM5 so I was confused i do some work at both systems on differnt timings so if I sychronize ..may they do some problem
[13:50] <ThinkT510> talpu271: no idea what gem5 is
[13:50] <PaSsI> MonkeyDust, its only for installing linux destros
[13:50] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj and then format this this 8gb partiatin to swap or what?
[13:50] <llutz> GEM? last time i saw it was in the mid 1980ies on an AtariST ..
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> PaSsI  maybe what you want is not possible, windows7.iso sounds very strange, for a start
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> PaSsI  maybe you have to unpack the iso and then install
[13:51] <ThinkT510> PaSsI: maybe ##windows would have good suggestions on how to make a win7 usb
[13:52] <talpu271> ThinkT510 ....But do you think if I build some programs on different systems ,,will they be sychronized when I combined them if there development tool is same
[13:52] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater, if you have 8G RAM then 8G swap (for hibernation) .place iot at the end of the partition table ..how large is your ext partition for ubuntu ?
[13:52] <talpu271> but the ubuntu host are change
[13:52] <ThinkT510> talpu271: combined them?
[13:53] <ThinkT510> talpu271: you making a cluster?
[13:53] <talpu271> merge them.....and to run/comiple
[13:53] <talpu271> no ....working with multicore cmp
[13:53] <ArcaneWater> BluesKaj 345
[13:53] <PaSsI> ThinkT510, thanks
[13:54] <ThinkT510> talpu271: whatever you want to do sounds out of my skillset
[13:54] <PaSsI> MonkeyDust, its under process will tell you whether it worked or not
[13:54] <PaSsI> but thanks
[13:54] <talpu271> any ways thansk..  ThinkT510
[13:55] <Abbas|> guys, is there a wya to speed up tiny proxy?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> ArcaneWater, ok that's plenty
[14:01] <waco001> hey is there a log for this irc?
[14:02] <ThinkT510> !log | waco001
[14:02] <waco001> k thanks
[14:04] <waco001> i came on yesterday and someone gave me a link to a tutorial to dual boot linux alongside windows7? can u give me the link again please?
[14:04] <ezel> so yes, i am having file recovery issues
[14:05] <ezel> i checked gparted just now
[14:05] <ezel> i can see where the partition WAS
[14:05] <ezel> but now it is unallocated space
[14:05] <ezel> is there a way to retrive this data?
[14:05] <ezel> slow channel heh
[14:07] <heikki_> Hi. I have a table (id, username, password) and temporary_table (id, new_password). How do i update the passwords from the temporary table to the real table?
[14:07] <heikki_> in MySQL
[14:10] <ezel> (all questions, no answers)
[14:10] <heikki_> ok, got it already
[14:10] <ezel> oh well
[14:10] <umutuygar> hi guys, Me menu is missing on top panel in 12.10. Do you know how to get it back?
[14:11] <dryicebomb> ezel look into a utility called testdisk http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387922
[14:11] <ritz> any ways to search for paid apps on ubuntu market ? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/department/quantal/games/
[14:11] <ritz> something akin to android market
[14:12] <ritz> with possibility of remote install would be nice
[14:12] <ritz> assuming, we could register the system to a landscape instance ( for basic add/remove s/w, and possibly remote mgmt )
[14:12] <dryicebomb> ritz, there is a down arrow next to the all software button, if you click that, there should be a for purchase category
[14:13] <ezel> dryicebomb, i am currently using it
[14:13] <ezel> i have some confusing regarding it
[14:13] <ritz> dryicebomb, I was talking about the web interface
[14:13] <ritz> the software centre is fine though
[14:13] <valterguy> umutuygar: i believe you should /j #ubuntu+1 since 12.10 is not supported here
[14:15] <umutuygar> valterguy, thanks
[14:17] <leehambley> is there any indication to unix beards here about why this machien just locked up, and stopped responding, dropped and won't take any more ssh connections? http://imgur.com/a/TrgNj
[14:17] <leehambley> (unfortunately no KVM for that machine :-()
[14:19] <dv310p3r> So, i just started using Cinnamon and it's awesome. Does anyone know if there's an IRC Channel where I can get some help with it.
[14:19] <dv310p3r> Basically looking for a good list of shortcuts
[14:22] <Ascavasaion> How does one print A4 calendars (like desktop planners) in Openoffice?  I know it is a template in MS Office.  Just curious.
[14:22] <ar9> does anyone use gwibber?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Ascavasaion: select the a4 size aper and go wild.
[14:23] <Ascavasaion> cfhowlett: Oh, you mean design it all myself?  Was hoping that I could take a shortcut hehe
[14:23] <italomaia> Hello folks
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Ascavasaion: pretty sure you can DL a template from openoffice
[14:24] <italomaia> good afternoon
[14:24]  * valterguy waves at italomaia 
[14:24] <italomaia> =]
[14:24] <valterguy> feel free explain the problem :)
[14:24] <italomaia> Folks, my dvd driver stoped reading dvds in ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <valterguy> to*
[14:24] <italomaia> dsmeg shouted this [ 9329.275008] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code
[14:25] <Ascavasaion> cfhowlett: I just saw that... thank you :)
[14:25] <italomaia> but the recording capability works just fine. Tested with a external USB driver
[14:33] <ezel> anyone here good with testdisk?
[14:34] <chinneseproduct> need a help on this lamp sever installation
[14:34] <gordonjcp> !lamp | chinneseproduct
[14:36] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp,  i have tried  sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[14:36] <chinneseproduct>  but failed to install
[14:36] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: that's a shame
[14:37] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, whats the shame there
[14:37] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: you may find there's some sort of error message that could point you in the right direction
[14:37] <sleepee> hello everybody.  not sure if this is the right place to ask, but im curious if anybody knows good linux book that focuses on net and sys administration..  preferably not a beginner's guide.  something a little more advanced.  anybody know of any such book?
[14:37] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, let me give some screenshot
[14:38] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, may i have to know the bin for image
[14:38] <valterguy> can someone explain `apt-get install lamp-server^`?
[14:38] <valterguy> lamp-server is still a task.
[14:38] <jrib> valterguy: it uses tasksel
[14:38] <valterguy> jrib: yes, but why not just use that?
[14:39] <Pici> valterguy: tasksel isn't installed by default iirc.
[14:39] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: did you follow the instructions on the page mentioned in the factoid?
[14:39] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp,  yer
[14:39] <Nickeeh> What does ctrl+S do in vim in the terminal (standard ubuntu installation)
[14:39] <Nickeeh> after that, my keyboard doesn't work anymore. :(
[14:39] <gordonjcp> Nickeeh: XOFF
[14:39] <jrib> Nickeeh: press ctrl-q
[14:39] <Nickeeh> I found that when I press ctrl+q it's fixed..
[14:40] <gordonjcp> yup, ctrl-Q is XON
[14:40] <Nickeeh> But ctrl+s is such a habit for me when editing text. xD
[14:40] <valterguy> Pici: interesting. never had a problem with it being not installed, but that seems about right. thanks.
[14:40] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, or let me  try yours as alternative
[14:41] <Nickeeh> gordonjcp: jrib can I turn that off?
[14:43] <gordonjcp> Nickeeh: not really, it's kind of inherent in the terminal
[14:43] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, am waiting for ur  recommendations
[14:43] <jrib> Nickeeh: you can with stty I think
[14:43] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: check the link in the factoid, follow the instructions
[14:43] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: if it doesn't work, pastebin the error you get
[14:44] <Nickeeh> gordonjcp: And there's no option to ignore XOFF en XON?
[14:44] <Nickeeh> jrib: is that a different terminal?
[14:44] <jrib> Nickeeh: no, it's a command
[14:44]  * Mi` is away: Stripping and stuff
[14:45] <Nickeeh> jrib: i'll check the manpage, thanks.
[14:45]  * Mi` is back (gone 00:00:14)
[14:45] <Arcanewater> Hello, is there a guy who was helping me with dual boot :)?
[14:45] <Arcanewater> I messed somthing xD
[14:46] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp,  i have tried  first one  sudo apt-get install tasksel,then sudo tasksel install lamp-server but the output is  this tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[14:47] <rajkosto> Hey why does ALT-TAB not work ?
[14:47] <rajkosto> 12.04 64bit just installed, using gnome classic
[14:47] <ardchoille> rajkosto: I installed 12.04 64bit and using gnome shell, alt+tab works here. Perhaps it's something to do with gnome classic?
[14:48] <Arcanewater> I am trying to install dual boot, already have windows 7 and already had D particion, now i formated my sda4 to ext4 so and created 8gb for swap, now when i proceed it says no root file system is defined, which one should i define as root file system?
[14:48] <ThinkT510> Arcanewater: your ext4 partition
[14:48] <theadmin> Arcanewater: The ext4 one (choose mountpoint=/)
[14:49] <Arcanewater> and what i type into mountpoint?
[14:49] <Arcanewater> root?
[14:49] <ar9> anyone know how to add facebook to gwibber?
[14:49] <ezel> guys, recently a partition (ext4) containing files has become "unallocated space", according to gparted
[14:49] <Arcanewater> theadmin or just /
[14:49] <ThinkT510> Arcanewater: /
[14:49] <theadmin> Arcanewater: As said, /
[14:49] <theadmin> !fhs | Arcanewater
[14:49] <Arcanewater> Thank you guys.
[14:50] <rajkosto> yes it works in gnome shell
[14:50] <rajkosto> but i dont roll that way.
[14:50] <ezel> guys, recently a partition (ext4) containing files has become "unallocated space", according to gparted, this is most likely due to my brother attempting a windows restore, i am using testdisk currently, and have finished analyzing, without finiding the missing partition, how do i proceed?
[14:52] <ardchoille> rajkosto: perhaps take a look at your keyboard shortcuts, it can be defined there if it's not already
[14:52] <rajkosto> "switch applications" is there as alt-tab
[14:53] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, check the bin http://pastebin.com/KYgKjNhx
[14:53] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: can't help you unless you pastebin the error and command that caused it *verbatim*
[14:53] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: ah, hang on ;-)
[14:53] <overclucker> ezel: if the filesystem is still intact, you may be able to create a new partition over it and run fsck on it to fix it.
[14:55] <]Spectre[> hi,I don't have the brain and I need an help,can you help me with a thing ?
[14:55] <Seednode> I can't tell if kidding.
[14:55] <rajkosto> ive defined shortcuts to go to "Super+T" to be terminal
[14:55] <rajkosto> super+T does nothing though
[14:56] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp, check the bin http://pastebin.com/KYgKjNhx
[14:56] <Seednode> rajkosto, do you have anything else bound to Super-T?
[14:56] <rajkosto> no, it just types t
[14:56] <rajkosto> its the same thing with alt tab on gnome classic, it just types the tab character
[14:56] <Seednode> Did you restart your WM?
[14:57] <overclucker> rajkosto: is that Super+shift+t ?
[14:57] <]Spectre[> Can someone give me an help ? I don't have the brain.I do not understand the binary representation of the fractional part http://www.picpaste.com/img-LCksryME.JPG
[14:57] <Seednode> Do your Alt and Super keys work normally?
[14:57] <riccardo> ciao
[14:57] <rajkosto> i did now.
[14:57] <rajkosto> it doesnt change anything
[14:57] <Guest87183> hey guys i'm trying to figure out how to keep the new web apps open in the new ubuntu 12.10 notification window, without exit the tabs. http://askubuntu.com/questions/197819/how-to-keep-web-apps-running-in-messaging-menu
[14:57] <ezel> overclucker, could you query me?
[14:58] <ThinkT510> Guest87183: #ubuntu+1
[14:58] <BlueWolf> Can Ubuntu 12.04's theme/look be changed like 11.04? As in can the Unity interface be removed so that the classic ubuntu interface be set?
[14:58] <theadmin> !nounity | BlueWolf
[14:58] <Guest87183> thanks ThinkT510
[14:58] <Seednode> Wait, wasn't 11.04 also Unity?
[14:59] <Seednode> Or am I mixed up?
[14:59] <chinneseproduct> error in  lamp installation  any support   http://pastebin.com/KYgKjNhx
[14:59] <Arcanewater> how i can switch then at startup between ubuntu and windows? cause it does not show me option
[14:59] <]Spectre[> can someone help me with binary numbers ?
[14:59] <Seednode> Arcanewater: Did you configure GRUB properly?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> Arcanewater  the grub menu lets you choose
[14:59] <BlueWolf> theadmin: So that means a yes right?
[15:00] <ThinkT510> Seednode: yes, 11.04 was unity but 11.04's unity was built ontop of gnome2
[15:00] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Well, GNOME Fallback isn't *exactly* same as gnome2 but very similar. Also check this: http://mate-desktop.org for an exact replica of gnome2
[15:00] <Arcanewater> I am right now at grub but i only have Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu, Memory test and Memory test console 115200
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  i'm 'très happy' with fallback
[15:00] <Seednode> Arcanewater, did you add Windows to your GRUB menu?
[15:01] <Arcanewater> Nope, how to do thath?
[15:01] <Seednode> Arcanewater: did you install manually, using the "Install alongside previous OS" option, or Wubi
[15:01] <Arcanewater> nope i choosed do somthing esle cause my os was not detected
[15:02] <gordonjcp> chinneseproduct: have you done "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[15:02] <Seednode> Oh... Well, in that case you'll need to edit GRUB by hand.
[15:02] <Seednode> One sec, let me find a guide.
[15:02] <chinneseproduct> yes
[15:02] <Seednode> Which version of Windows are you using, Arcanewater ?
[15:02] <chinneseproduct> yes gordonjcp
[15:02] <Arcanewater> Seednode windows 7
[15:02] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Does compiz work with ubuntu 12.04 because I remember that it clashed with Unity when I use 11.04
[15:02] <chinneseproduct> my system is upto date
[15:02] <Seednode> Strange, it should have been automatically detected.
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  unity is gnome3 with compiz, so yes
[15:03] <Seednode> No wonder Unity has problems.
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> no wonder i don't use it ;)
[15:04] <Seednode> MonkeyDust, I've never used it for more than an hour or so, while helping others.
[15:04] <Arcanewater> Seednode hmm what to do now .D?
[15:04] <Seednode> I'm running Arch/Win7
[15:04] <Seednode> Arcanewater: Right, sorry, let me grab the guide. Internet's being slow.
[15:04] <BlueWolf> theadmin: MonkeyDust: Thanks for the information ;-)
[15:04] <hoechts> hi, how do i install unity on ubuntu server?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, so you installed ubuntu successfully ?
[15:05] <jrib> hoechts: install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[15:05] <hoechts> jrib, thx
[15:05] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj yes i am on it right now :) But now i cant choose between w7 and ubuntu at grub menu
[15:05] <gfdfgfr> I just indtalled ubunu
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, ok did you run sudo updat-grub
[15:06] <gfdfgfr> it has some amazon stuff in it anf I caannt remove it
[15:06] <BluesKaj> err update-grub
[15:06] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj yes right now
[15:06] <Thepenguin9> can anyone help me? im having trouble trying to install ubuntu on my laptop as my Win7 isnt booting from right partition
[15:07] <cfhowlett> Thepenguin9: have you already installed ubuntu?
[15:07] <Thepenguin9> no, tried usb and cd but gives me flashing cursor
[15:08] <gfdfgfr> i need a help gtting amazon junkeare removed
[15:08] <rajkosto> where do i turn off the annoying sounds
[15:08] <emamdouh> hi, i have a problem with apt-get -f install
[15:08] <emamdouh> E: Internal Error, No file name for liblzma5
[15:08] <chinneseproduct> gordonjcp,  what do  so
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, and what was the result ?
[15:08] <emamdouh> i was trying to install liblzmas5 of ubuntu 12.10 on ubuntu 12.04
[15:09] <llutz> emamdouh: then get the depends it needs and continue to wreck your system
[15:10] <gfdfgfr> emamdouh, use dpkg
[15:10] <emamdouh> gfdfdfr: yeah
[15:10] <cfhowlett> emamdouh: expect unforeseen consequences.
[15:10] <emamdouh> i was using dpkg
[15:10] <emamdouh> can i revert ?
[15:10] <emamdouh> installation didn't  finished
[15:10] <emamdouh> finish*
[15:11] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj found linux image,found initrd image, found memtest86+ image and then done
[15:11] <OerHeks> gfdfgfr, join #ubuntu+1 for Quantal 12.10 amazon issues
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub , again
[15:11] <cfhowlett> emamdouh: sudo dpkg -r foo.deb to remove
[15:12] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Doesn't need the .deb does it
[15:13] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj generating grub.cfg and then the same log. But with os-prober happens nothing
[15:13] <cfhowlett> theadmin: guess I assumed .deb package ...
[15:15] <alien2050> Question about uptime as a monitoring tool... If I've got an 8 cores (1 cpu) system, how can I know if the system is under load? I'm seeing with top something like 20-30% load on each core more/less
[15:16] <alien2050> or is uptime obsolete.... how do I read the results?
[15:16] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Did you remove any windows partitions, or resize windows with this install?
[15:17] <alien2050> my current reading is  11:15:17 up 33 days, 21:46,  3 users,  load average: 1.18, 0.82, 1.02
[15:17] <Aidiakapi> Hey
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater,  kubuntu.com/questions/155492/why-cannot-ubuntu-12-04-detect-windows-7-dual-boot
[15:18] <ardchoille> alien2050: which ubuntu release are you running?
[15:18] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee Nope just D disc resezed for 8GB to create swap. Adn chose to install mbr on /dev/sda
[15:18] <alien2050> 11.10
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, This is Linux partitions do not have letters. Is sda the HD where your Ubuntu partition is installed?
[15:20] <Aidiakapi> Hello, sorry to just burst in with a question, but I'm having an issue with svn on my VirtualBox ubuntu system. It has to do with permissions, and I was wondering if there's anybody with a little time to help me out?
[15:20] <ardchoille> alien2050: you should check for a kernel update
[15:20] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee No sda4 is ubuntu and sda2 is windows
[15:21] <alien2050> huh?
[15:21] <jrib> Aidiakapi: just ask the actual question
[15:21] <ThinkT510> Arcanewater: yes, so its the same disk
[15:21] <alien2050> why.... my question is about uptime....
[15:21] <Aidiakapi> Well, I cannot commit to the repository, because for some reason SVN doesn't have access to it :/
[15:21] <ardchoille> alien2050: if your uptime is 33 days you've likely missed the USN-1578-1 kernel security update
[15:22] <Aidiakapi> The owner of the repository is www-data (I'm pushing through apache) and the group is svn, my user group where all users with access are in
[15:22] <Arcanewater> ThinkT510 wilee-nilee Yes it's the same disc
[15:22] <TLoT> alien2050, i'd agree with ardchoille, if you're missing that kernel update, you've got a security hole in your kernel
[15:22] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Cool install this app  in ubuntu and run the create bootinfo summary only and post the URL to it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:22] <Aidiakapi> when I chmod the folder to allow everyone full access, it's working properly
[15:22] <ardchoille> alien2050: updates trump uptime :)
[15:22] <jrib> Aidiakapi: please ask in one line (don't use enter as punctuation)
[15:23] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, THis script will give us a lot more info to work with including boot files and the mbr
[15:23] <TLoT> ardchoille, specifically, security updates trump uptime
[15:23] <TLoT> :P
[15:23] <ardchoille> TLoT: indeed
[15:23] <alien2050> oops! Then I'll do the update! But it still doesn't answer my question.... how to read uptime properly ;)
[15:23] <Aidiakapi> Well, I cannot commit to the repository, because for some reason SVN doesn't have access to it :/. The owner of the repository is www-data (I'm pushing through apache) and the group is svn, my user group where all users with access are in. When I chmod the folder to allow everyone full access, it's working properly.
[15:24] <ThinkT510> alien2050: type uptime in a terminal
[15:24] <TLoT> alien2050, manpages.  for the lazy:  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=65043
[15:24] <TLoT> alien2050, simply put, the load averages displayed are for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes, iirc
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater I have to reboot so if you do this and post it make sure I see it.
[15:25] <jrib> Aidiakapi: pastebin your attempt at making a commit and the full output, as well as « ls -ld DIRECTORY » output for the relevant directories
[15:25] <alien2050> yes I know the 1 5 15... but I'm just wondering if I'm supposed to see 1.0 or 8.0 for an 8 core system that would be loaded
[15:25] <TLoT> alien2050, rule of thumb of mine:  if your 5 minute load average is over 10, there's something wrong :P
[15:26] <TLoT> alien2050, i dont think the numbers refer to the number of cores.
[15:26] <valnour> TLoT, alien2050, load average does correlate to number of cores
[15:27] <TLoT> valnour, but would it say "8" if all 8 cores are running at full for a minute?
[15:27] <ardchoille> alien2050: I'm on a dual-core machine and my uptime last chars reads: load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.12
[15:28] <valnour> TLoT, alien2050: read this http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2009/07/31/understanding-load-averages
[15:28] <Aidiakapi> The results from the command are: rwxr-xr-x 6 www-data svn 4096 Oct  8 17:26 /home/svn/zdb, and the error is: Can't open file '/home/svn/zdb/db/txn-current-lock': Permission denied.
[15:28] <valnour> especially the part that starts with "What about Multi-processors?"
[15:28] <alien2050> Looks like quite a nice article thx valnour
[15:28] <valnour> no problem
[15:29] <jrib> Aidiakapi: use a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) and paste what I actually asked please
[15:29] <Aidiakapi> That is the result of what you actually asked :S
[15:29] <valnour> TLoT, to answer your question directly, on an 8 core system, a load average of 8 would be max load, yes
[15:29] <chinneseproduct> problem with LAMP installation  anyone who is  competent with LAMP
[15:29] <TLoT> valnour, so, what i said is right, > 10 load average on a dual core is BAD :P
[15:30] <TLoT> valnour, that's happened before, so i know from experience its bad ;P
[15:30] <jrib> Aidiakapi: pastebin your attempt at making a commit ----->and<----- the full output, as well as « ls -ld DIRECTORY » output for the relevant directories
[15:30] <valnour> right... because it's higher than your number of cores
[15:30] <valnour> it helps to give a reason why it's bad, and to help the user understand why it's bad
[15:30] <valnour> better than saying "yep, 10 is bad"
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, I don't PM.
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> post it in the channel
[15:31] <valnour> the next question might be "what about 3, or 9, or 7?"
[15:31] <chinneseproduct> problem with LAMP installation  anyone who is  competent with LAMP  http://pastebin.com/KYgKjNhx
[15:31] <Aidiakapi> jrib, http://pastebin.com/sMzcu1Qa
[15:32] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee i am looking for wired network because wifi is not working
[15:32] <TLoT> valnour, true, although in most deployments, you're not running 7 cores :P
[15:32] <TLoT> valnour, outside of servers, at least.
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Cool,
[15:32] <chinneseproduct> ubottu, need a help
[15:32] <valnour> TLoT: which is why it is best to point to an article to give a full understanding of load averages, and how they relate to cores
[15:33] <chinneseproduct> ubottu, need a help
[15:33] <TLoT> valnour, true, i didnt have one
[15:33] <TLoT> chinneseproduct, please don't repeat or spam, ubottu is just a bot
[15:33] <TLoT> !patience | chinneseproduct
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, If you had wifi with the live cd you can use it to get that app and script URL poated as well.
[15:34] <chinneseproduct> TLoT, okay thanks  but are u working with it
[15:34] <irinel> Hello all. A quick question: I have a GeForce GT 525M video card and I am using bumblebee. In the jockey-gtk is appearing a new NVIDIA driver (version current) but is not "Active". Do you think that if I activate this driver(295.4) will be in conflict with bumblebee?
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> posted*
[15:34] <TLoT> chinneseproduct: i've got twenty things on my plate.  first question: is aptitude installed?  :P
[15:34] <TLoT> (just asking)
[15:34] <navalastro> MARIO CONECTATE YA....
[15:34] <ziggyzero> Hi I have a CIFS share mounted from Ubuntu to NexentaStor 3.1.3. It mounts fine. However, all the new files and folders are created with 700 permissions whereas I want 755. Can anybody help?
[15:34] <bazhang> TLoT, aptitude is to be avoided
[15:34] <rapucha> need some info... whats the fastest format for compression on ubuntu?
[15:34] <butt23> �DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[15:35] <TLoT> bazhang, even with tasksel?
[15:35] <TLoT> bazhang, its looking for aptitude
[15:35] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[15:35] <Aidiakapi> jrib: Isn't that what you wanted to know? I'm new to linux, so I don't know exactly what you're going for
[15:35] <chinneseproduct> bazhang, TLoT ,so what can i do if tasksel have to beavoided
[15:35] <bazhang> !aptitude | TLoT
[15:35] <rapucha> least compression ratio faster compression?
[15:35] <rapucha> bump
[15:36] <bazhang> rapucha, not the channel for that
[15:36] <navalastro> are you inglish? do you speak inglish'
[15:36] <rapucha> which is the channel?
[15:36] <TLoT> bazhang, you're already preaching to the converted, did you read their pastebin?  tasksel on their system is looking for aptitude, if i'm reading its errors right
[15:36] <bazhang> navalastro, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:36] <navalastro> HABLAD ESPAÑOL COÑO.SPEAK SPANINSH
[15:37] <ziggyzero> Can somebody help me to convert MPEG Layer I files to MPEG Layer III?
[15:37] <ziggyzero> Yo Hablo un poco Espanol?
[15:37] <bazhang> !es | navalastro
[15:37] <navalastro> OK
[15:37] <bazhang> navalastro, here is english only
[15:37] <chinneseproduct> bazhang, what can i do in order to install the LAMP if aptitude and tasksel have to be avoided
[15:38] <navalastro> quien eres tu bazhang
[15:38] <bazhang> navalastro, /join #ubuntu-es
[15:38] <jrib> Aidiakapi: you setup svn?  What are the permissions on /home/svn/zdb/db/txn-current-lock ?
[15:38] <navalastro> adios me voy .vai
[15:38] <ziggyzero> adios
[15:39] <chinneseproduct> ziggyzero, amigo
[15:39] <tauk> I am having a problem with my ubuntu. It is not reading input from the keyboard or touchpad properly. Iv connected a usb mouse and that fails too. It is a completely brand new laptop - i tested all the hardware on the default windoze install before putting ubuntu on. It was initially working during the installation but suddenly failed when it reached the desktop - just as i connected to a
[15:39] <tauk> wireless network but I doubt that is relevant. The input works briefly but stops after a few seconds at the logon screen.
[15:39] <TLoT> chinneseproduct, i'd take a try at using this: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server libapache2-mod-php5
[15:39] <navalastro> adios ziggyzero
[15:39] <TLoT> chinneseproduct, and all the relevant dependencies as well
[15:40] <Aidiakapi> jrib, ohoow I see those are user root and group root. I used the chmod and chown commands before using the svnadmin create command is that the problem?
[15:40] <tauk> Should I just try to reinstall ubuntu?
[15:40] <TLoT> chinneseproduct, there may be other configuration you'll have to do though, i can't help you there, i'm a fan of nginx instead of apache :P
[15:41] <jrib> Aidiakapi: is there a reason you're using svn by the way?  Nowadays, many prefer dvcs like git, hg, and bzr
[15:42] <chinneseproduct> http://pastebin.com/FPf0qhyy TLoT  take a damn loook
[15:43] <TLoT> !language
[15:43] <Aidiakapi> jrib, not really, though I used GIT for some time, and I really didn't like it, I've never heard of the other two
[15:43] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee now i pressed F12 to get to boot menu and choosed windows boot manager and i logged me in windows 7 hmmmm....
[15:43] <Aidiakapi> jrib, and SVN with TortoiseSVN seems rather easy, plus the extensions for Visual Studio work great
[15:44] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please? I think you may have a problem there
[15:44] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Hmm so what is the f12 function on your computer, mine is a boot from menu, including usb and cd's and Hard drives?
[15:45] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee mine is too and first option is ubuntu and second one is windows boot manager and if i press windows boot manager it get me in windows
[15:45] <jrib> Aidiakapi: what's zdb?  What's creating that lock file?  Does something else write to the repository maybe?
[15:45] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Do you have more then one HD perchance
[15:45] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee no i only have 1 hd
[15:46] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, so can i do
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Was the windows boot a recovery backup, that is just a strange anomaly, I'm trying to think what might be going on is all.
[15:47] <Aidiakapi> jrib, no the problem was solved by setting the permissions again (sudo chown www-data:svn /home/svn/zdb, sudo chmod g+rws /home/svn/zdb did the trick for it). zdb is the name of my repository and project
[15:47] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee no it just loaded normaly as usual...
[15:47] <jrib> Aidiakapi: k
[15:47] <bacon4435> HELLO
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater,does grub actually list it as windows boot manager?
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, I'm not sure now lol, well at least we know windows will boot.
[15:48] <Aidiakapi> jrib so what are those other version control systems, and do they have advantages over svn? And it's kind of important that it's very easy to use from a windows installation, because all team members are using windows, but the server is running linux
[15:48] <Calinou> Aidiakapi: git.
[15:48] <chinneseproduct> bacon4435,  leave ur fooolish isnt a place for that
[15:48] <Calinou> chinneseproduct: no u
[15:48] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj wilee-nilee nope on grub menu there is nothing connected with windows xD
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, I wonder if you are missing the bootflag in the correct windows partition.
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> on*
[15:49] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee any way to check thath?
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, can you run commands from that computer and pastebin the results?
[15:49] <Aidiakapi> Calinou, Which client do you use on windows then? Because all git seems a lot more difficult than SVN
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> in ubuntu'
[15:50] <bacon4435> chinneseproduct: hi
[15:50]  * valterguy waves at bacon4435 and tells him to name his problem
[15:50] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee i can run command but not command which are need internet cause my wifi on linux is not working xD Not even on live cd where it was working before.
[15:50] <chinneseproduct> yes bacon4435
[15:51] <chinneseproduct> bacon4435, say whats ur problem
[15:51] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please? I think you may have a problem there
[15:52] <Calinou> Aidiakapi: official git client (from CLI) works just fine
[15:52] <Calinou> the GUI might or might not work
[15:52] <Calinou> git is easier than SVN; I can use git but not svn
[15:52] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, no such a  directory
[15:52] <Calinou> and has more features
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Run in ubuntu sudo fdsik -lu  and post it in a pastebin, you can copy and paste the text to a gedit text and move it to the computer you are on, ona usb flash if your on a computer now, rather then a phone or something.
[15:53] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, no such a  directory  /etc/apt.
[15:53] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: you don't have an /etc/apt directory?
[15:53] <gfdfgfr> can git just checkout stuff?
[15:53] <chinneseproduct> so whats the problem there
[15:53] <gfdfgfr> you need to compile anything, git downloads hundreds of megabytes
[15:54] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: if you don't have an /etc/apt directory I'm wondering where your sources are
[15:54] <chinneseproduct> so whats the problem there  ardchoille
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, I think getting the wifi running on the ubuntu first will be a better task as of now, we know the windows will boot, so having it on the web will make things much easier for some one to help you.
[15:55] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee sec i just got log from this, i am transfering it on this machine now
[15:55] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  but /etc/apt/ is a directory terminal tell me that
[15:55] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater,  cool
[15:55] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Arcanewater
[15:56] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: so do you have an /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[15:56] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, bash: /etc/apt/: Is a directory
[15:56] <chinneseproduct> ard let me chek it
[15:56] <bazhang> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list        chinneseproduct
[15:57] <bazhang> or cat /etc/apt/sources.list chinneseproduct
[15:57] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, wait am pasting to the bin command from bazhang
[15:58] <bazhang> ardchoille, I think he is just typing in /etc/apt/ without any command
[15:58] <ardchoille> bazhang: ah, ok
[15:58] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: Sorry about that, I should have added a command to display the content of that file
[15:58] <bazhang> perhaps in future suggest the install of pastebinit
[15:59] <ardchoille> bazhang: good advice, will do
[15:59] <ardchoille> I need to install that myself
[15:59] <bazhang> wish it was default, it's very useful
[16:00] <ardchoille> indeed
[16:00] <gfdfgfr> i just noted i miss a soundcard... any way to troubleshoot it
[16:00] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, and i dont know if it has to be added  gksudo gedit
[16:00] <ardchoille> bazhang: Would it be worthwhile for a user like me to suggest it be added to the release?
[16:00] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:01] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, http://pastebin.com/4TrGMKmJ after running the command  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:01] <ardchoille> bazhang: I'm not familiar with the precise-proposed repo. would that cause problems?
[16:02] <bazhang> ardchoille, sure why not
[16:02] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[16:02] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee BluesKaj here you go log http://pastebin.com/Cgv1igHc
[16:02] <ardchoille> bazhang: can you give advice on this when you have a moment? It's for chinneseproduct : http://pastebin.com/4TrGMKmJ
[16:02] <ardchoille> I think that proposed repo is causing him problems in installing things
[16:04] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, Ah a gpt setup I'm not really familiar with how to set up grub to work in a gpt others are though that is key info so make sure it is part of the info when you get help.
[16:04] <xibalba> hey folks, i have a sata 7200 rpm raid 10 array with poor write performance. any articles you can point me to that can help me tweak/adjust settings to improve performance? getting about only 120MB/sec write, where i get 5100MB/sec reads
[16:04] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: are you're on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:04] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee so you dont have any idea anymore ^^ i am thinking about formating again xD
[16:05] <AdvoWork> how can i tell when my version of ubuntu server 10.04.4 lts is supported until?
[16:05] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, yes
[16:05] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, 12.04
[16:05] <ziggyzero> Running files through mp3gain. Some complain saying that they are Layer I and not Layer III. Can somebody advise me how I convert the mp3's to layer III?
[16:05] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: ok
[16:05] <bazhang> AdvoWork, 5 years
[16:05] <gfdfgfr> how to troubleshoot a missing soundcard?
[16:06] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I think that proposed repo is causing you problems but I'd like to hear from a veteran like bazhang
[16:06] <truexfan81> bazhang: 5 years for 10.04?
[16:06] <bazhang> truexfan81, for server, yes
[16:06] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: only on server yes
[16:06] <ardchoille> 5 years for servers on LTS
[16:06] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, lets hear fro,
[16:06] <truexfan81> ah ok
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> xibalba, Run the smart data in the disk utility to see if there are problems on the disc
[16:06] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, lets hear from bazhang
[16:06] <AdvoWork> bazhang, how do you know, also i see on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases it has eol dates, but not for 10.04.4 ?
[16:06] <w0lf> hi
[16:06] <bazhang> ardchoille, sure why not have him comment it out and see
[16:07] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, I would not run a new install you are probably fine but just need a person familiar with that type of partitioning to finish of the setup.
[16:07] <w0lf> any body knows how to creat a website on ubuntu desktop and run it on internet?
[16:07] <ThinkT510> AdvoWork: it says right there on that page
[16:07] <bazhang> AdvoWork, up until 12.04 LTS were always 5 for server and 3 for desktop; with the release of 12.04 it's 5 for both
[16:07] <AdvoWork> ahh ok
[16:08] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, and bazhang i know both  of u have to help me on the LAMP installation
[16:08] <Arthar360> w0lf : install Apache :-)
[16:08] <w0lf> and?
[16:08] <chris_99> does anyone know what kernel comes with 12.10
[16:08] <Arcanewater> wilee-nilee do you know any one who is familiar with that???
[16:08] <valterguy> w0lf: apache will be your web server.
[16:08] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, GPT is alittle different then the standard msdos I'm familiar with and probably most of the computers use.
[16:08] <bazhang> chris#ubuntu+1 for 12.10 discussion please
[16:08] <xibalba> wilee-nilee, i'm not familiar with that. mind giving me an example command?
[16:08] <w0lf> ok about dns?
[16:08] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: comment out that proposed repo (line 44 in your paste), then save, then do: sudo apt-get update
[16:08] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: then try your install again
[16:09] <Arthar360> w0lf : Compy your web page to /var/www/html and then give your IP address to the visitor
[16:09] <Arthar360> copy*
[16:09] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, comment out= place a # in front of it
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, People on the ubuntu forum, and a couple here I have not seen yet. But you can actually boot into windows as of now so I would post a thread on the UF and hang here as long as you can.
[16:09] <truexfan81> will the new policy of 5 years for both be kept for future lts versions?
[16:09] <w0lf> can i change the address and how to manage several website on a server?
[16:10] <bazhang> truexfan81, hard to say that far in the future
[16:10] <Arthar360> w0lf, : and one more thing..... your web page should be named as index.html ...ie it will be /var/www/html/index.html
[16:10] <chinneseproduct> ok bazhang  let me try its ''out='
[16:10] <chinneseproduct> ok bazhang  let me try its ''out=''
[16:10] <FloodBot1> chinneseproduct: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater, IN other words don't let any frustration and a rush to fix get in the way of the fix.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, what does sudo fdisk -l show ?
[16:10] <w0lf> how to manage several wesites?
[16:10] <w0lf> i have more than a website
[16:10] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, in front of LINE 44 <------ place a #
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/Cgv1igHc   here you go bro
[16:11] <w0lf> arthar?
[16:11] <ardchoille> bazhang: Thank you, I need to learn to be a little more basic in my advice to others here
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, That's his fdisk it is a gpt
[16:11] <chinneseproduct> okay bazhang
[16:11] <Arthar360> w0lf : you can do that setting up a DNS server and website Name virtualhosting....but I dont know about broadcasting them on internet..It is possible in LAN,WLAN
[16:11] <gfdfgfr> how to troubleshoot a missing soundcard?
[16:12] <ziggyzero> Running files through mp3gain. Some complain saying that they are Layer I and not Layer III. Can somebody advise me how I convert the mp3's to layer III?
[16:12] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: did you save that file?
[16:12] <bazhang> ardchoille, I suspect its a language issue
[16:12] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[16:12] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, missing in what way
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> ziggyzero  mp3 means mpeg layer 3
[16:12] <w0lf> about 2 websites or more how to manage several websites on aserver?
[16:12] <ziggyzero> yeah that's what I though too
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> xibalba, IOts not a command you have a app called disk utility in it u=is a smart disc check.
[16:13] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, you are on 12.10, correct?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, where's the ubuntu partition?
[16:13] <gfdfgfr> ubuntu thinks i have no audio devices, but normal linux don't
[16:13] <gfdfgfr> yes
[16:13] <xibalba> oh the disks are not thwoing any smart issues
[16:13] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj sda4
[16:13] <xibalba> a dd of /dev/zero out with bs=1024 ~207MB/sec
[16:13] <bazhang> gfdfgfr, then keep 12.10 questions in the proper channel  ------> #ubuntu+1
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> xibalba, Open the disk utility and look at the smart disc part.
[16:13] <valterguy> w0lf: as Arthar360 said, VirtualHosts.
[16:14] <yebs> i hate this ubuntu studio os.......i always configure.....huh!!! tired!!!!
[16:14] <chinneseproduct> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/KMh5jEj9 i think its ur meaning
[16:14] <xibalba> it seems the performance degrades with smaller block sizes, bs=1024 = 207MB/sec, bs=512=98MB/sec, bs=256=50MB/sec
[16:14] <w0lf> means that i have to creat some VHs for my websites seperatley?
[16:14] <Arthar360> w0lf, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[16:14] <valterguy> w0lf: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[16:14] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, yes i save
[16:15] <valterguy> Arthar360: dangit.
[16:15] <ziggyzero> MonkeyDust: Sidney Samson - Riverside (Let's Go) (Feat. Wizard Sleeve).mp3 is an MPEG Layer I file, not a layer III file
[16:15] <BluesKaj> so you didn't copy the ubuntu particulars  , Arcanewater
[16:15] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: no, the # goes at the beginning of the line, not at the end
[16:15] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  see this http://pastebin.com/KMh5jEj9 and i save it
[16:15] <ziggyzero> MonkeyDust: That's the error
[16:15] <xibalba> any thoughts on that?
[16:15] <xibalba> smaller block sizes yields worse performance
[16:15] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: you can see how other lines in that file are commented out with a #
[16:15] <w0lf> thnx arthar360 and valter
[16:16] <nshbrown> how do I change my keyboard mapping in ubuntu server? Right now the keys are all messed up
[16:16] <TJ-> xibalba: more syscalls for the same amount of data == less performance
[16:16] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, ohhhhh shit i have done it wrong let me correct it
[16:16] <Arthar360> valterguy, ;-)
[16:16] <yebs> KEEP CONFIGURE......
[16:16] <xibalba> TJ-, any sysctl settings possible to help that improve? more caching of write
[16:17] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj what should i do now?
[16:18] <xibalba> is there a way to increase write buffers in memory?
[16:18] <yebs> I WANT TO GO BACK ONTO WINXP
[16:18] <bazhang> yebs, no caps
[16:18] <yebs> WHY?
[16:18] <ThinkT510> yebs: what's stopping you?
[16:18] <Seednode> but if i can't use caps, "i" looks weird... :/
[16:19] <ardchoille> yebs: full capslock is the equivalent of yelling and this is a small room :)
[16:19] <Boreeas> Bah, Windows solved Hibernation way better than Linux :/
[16:19] <yebs> ooooo.....................
[16:20] <dagerik> when i touch the disk with ls or stat the process goes into D state as described by ps (uninterruptable sleep). i dont have root. halp
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> ziggyzero  yes, so it's not mp3, use vlc to save as/convert
[16:20] <bazhang> yebs, do you have an actual support question?
[16:20] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,http://pastebin.com/ztvN68UP
[16:20] <xibalba> the file system is ZFS....anyone good with tuning it?
[16:20] <chinneseproduct> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/ztvN68UP am i correct
[16:20] <ThinkT510> !zfs | xibalba
[16:20] <jamme> hi. is there a way (short of a complete new installation to "upgrade" a 32 bit ubuntu installation on a 64 bit machine to a 64 bit ubuntu?
[16:21] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: that looks great, now open a terminal and run   sudo apt-get update
[16:21] <bazhang> jamme, nope
[16:21] <yebs> yes.....i download the lmms but not yet installed.....
[16:21] <ThinkT510> jamme: you don't, you need to reinstall
[16:21] <jamme> bazhang, ThinkT510: ok. thanks.
[16:21] <bazhang> yebs, downloaded how
[16:21] <xibalba> ThinkT510, thanks but nothing on their regarding performance
[16:21] <chinneseproduct> okay thanks ardchoille  am ruuning the sudo apt-get update
[16:22] <yebs> reinstall mean dowloading again ?
[16:22] <ThinkT510> xibalba: sorry, i've never used zfs
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, login to your ubuntu live media , open a terminal and do , sudo grub-install /dev/sda4
[16:22] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: when that is finished, go back and try your install of the server items again
[16:22] <bazhang> yebs, you installed lmms from the ubuntu software repositories?
[16:22] <yebs> yes
[16:22] <bazhang> yebs, so whats the problem
[16:23] <yebs> nothing installed.....after downloading and install
[16:23] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj into the installed one or the one who is runing from cd
[16:23] <yebs> auto install, right?
[16:23] <chinneseproduct> http://pastebin.com/ytN3U3s1 ardchoille
[16:23] <bazhang> yebs, you familiar with how to use lmms?
[16:24] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: that looks good
[16:24] <yebs> i use lmms on win xp
[16:24] <LeMike> could everyone raise his hands for zsh   \o/   need to screenshot it and convince the admin of installing it :P
[16:24] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: now go back and try your install of the server items again
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater, if you have a live-cd use that , I wasn't sure whether you were using a cd or a ausb stick to install the OS
[16:24] <bazhang> LeMike, please DONT poll here
[16:25] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, so which one tasksel or what  to install cuz before there is a warning there btn u and bazhang
[16:25] <LeMike> damn it :/
[16:25] <tauk> Hi, i am booting ubuntu from a usb, it gives me a kernal panic msg and then hangs
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, You would have to chroot into the install to install there
[16:25] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, I have not been folowing , sorry
[16:25] <Arcanewater> BluesKaj i am useing USB stick
[16:25] <calrogman> LeMike: `[rmp@derp: ~]$` wow! it looks just like any other shell ever!
[16:25] <chinneseproduct> okay, bazhang
[16:25] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: please tell us what you need to install
[16:25] <ardchoille> I believe it was php5 and mysql
[16:26] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, LAMP
[16:26] <ardchoille> ah
[16:26] <ardchoille> bazhang: the best way to install LAMP?
[16:27] <yebs> is there any d.j software for linux?
[16:27] <bazhang> ardchoille, bit busy at the moment, sorry
[16:27] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, are you sure , /dev/sda4 is his ubuntu install , why bothger with chrooting ?
[16:27] <LeMike> calrogman: it's like bow ties. it's cool.
[16:27] <ardchoille> bazhang: No worries
[16:27] <ardchoille> !LAMP
[16:27] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, he's using the live cd with the terminal
[16:27] <calrogman> LeMike: zsh is more like a colour-clashing frock
[16:28] <delac> how do I make evinces side bar narrower?
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj,  From a live cd you would have to chroot. As it is he can boot to Ubuntu I believe you can you purge and install all from there.
[16:28] <yebs> i use ubuntu studio OS. fresh install inside my hdd.....
[16:28] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: Please visit this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:28] <ardchoille> my borwser won't open it, I think it's an issue on my end
[16:28] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, so we do have to wait for bazhang
[16:28] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, no
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, It is a GPT it is not  msdos partitioning set up, Personally I think a person who know GPT booting wu=ith grub will know what to do.
[16:28] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: no, he's busy, there's a tutorial for you
[16:29] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, I never do chroots to install grub to a different partition
[16:29] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  there at ur link there is a tasksel
[16:29] <chinneseproduct> which isnt gud  ardchoille
[16:29] <yebs> vlc player have no sound for dat files.................
[16:29] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: go ahead and try that again
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Cool but I doubt that will fix it but one never knows. I never of had to reload a grub this way.
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> in a partition,.
[16:30] <yebs> yeahhh....keep configure.....
[16:30] <Arthar360> yebs -> pl see my pm
[16:30] <yebs> aaaaaa...............
[16:31] <waco001> Hello
[16:31] <MINTTU{MB}> When using virtualbox in (win7) and booting a session of Ubuntu, can i specify somewhere that i only need terminal and not Desktop ?
[16:31] <waco001> Guys
[16:32] <Arthar360> MINTTU{MB} : in grub remove "splash" from kernel line
[16:32] <dagerik> when i touch the disk with ls or stat the process goes into D state as described by ps (uninterruptable sleep). i dont have root. halp
[16:32] <waco001> I just joined the linux group by dual booting ubuntu and win 7... the problem is that my wireless  doesnt work. I have a linkysy adapter card but it doesnt work in ubuntu... is there a driver or something i need to install?
[16:32] <Arcanewater_> BluesKay wilee-nilee i tryed following command and it says: Path '/boot/grub/' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[16:32] <piglit> how can i check if i have got a certain lib installed from the command line?
[16:33] <waco001> I just joined the linux group by dual booting ubuntu and win 7... the problem is that my wireless  doesnt work. I have a linkysy adapter card but it doesnt work in ubuntu... is there a driver or something i need to install?
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> MINTTU{MB}, In the kernel at the grub prompt hit shift to get grub, and you can set it in the install to run as a cli.
[16:33] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, still the problem http://pastebin.com/8f2DZvNY
[16:34] <MINTTU{MB}> Arthar360, dont know what this "grub" is :)
[16:34] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | MINTTU{MB}
[16:35] <rodhash> Guys
[16:35] <rodhash> When I lock the screen, is there any way to appear the login screen? Instead of lock screen?
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater_, ok , so GPT can't be read by grub or os-prober ...how convenient :(
[16:35] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: ok, further down in that tutorial there are instructions for manually installing the LAMP components. Start in that page where it says "Installing Apache 2" and begin installing the components you need.
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> MINTTU{MB}, Grub is the ubuntu bootloader if you tap on shift at the start of the vm you will see it and follow this link for a cli.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9644518#post9644518
[16:35] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, let ,e try
[16:36] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql
[16:37] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: then read that page for setting up and configuring those components
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, I believe GPT can work with grub fine it just needs someone who knows this stuff.
[16:37] <Arcanewater_> BluesKaj So what do you recommend now?
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> lots of booting with grub in a GPT on the web.
[16:38] <ardchoille> bazhang: not immediate: he was using tasksel to install LAMP but he kept getting "aptitude failed". Does tasksel require aptitude? Everyone says to avoid aptitude. I'm confused.
[16:38] <chinneseproduct> http://pastebin.com/ThDvvQQz ardchoille    see  after running the command u gave me
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> Don't peck at it wait for someone who knows
[16:39] <Arthar360> MINTTU{MB} : after bios screen...grub screen appears (you should press and hold "Shift" key....while bios screen appears) after getting this black screen....press e to edit grub mean..Search for "kerlel" and in the same line somewhere you will find "splash" ..remove this "splash" and press crtl+x
[16:39] <MINTTU{MB}> thank you :)
[16:39] <jnm> MINTTU{MB}: alternatively, you may wish to shut down the desktop /after/ it has been loaded. - http://askubuntu.com/questions/65856
[16:39] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: ok, that is a dependency problem. I'm not sure how to proceed from here.. I've never had deps problems.
[16:39] <Arthar360> sry "kernel"*
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> Arcanewater_, Get the wifi working so yoiu can run the bootscript, you have your cart in front of your horse.
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> at this point
[16:40] <ardchoille> wilee-nilee: rear-engine drive! :)
[16:40] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, if u left me here  i wont be able to proceed more
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> ardchoille, hehe getting in a hurry helps no one. ;)
[16:41] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  cuz am new on this and  i was bout starting php
[16:41] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: just stay in the channel and see if someone else can help. I can't go any further because I don't have the proper information and don't want to give you bad advice
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> Arthar360, That will only make text seen not a cli.
[16:42] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, thanks alot to  where u brought me
[16:42] <leftyfb> I'm running 12.04 with gnome classic. Anyone know how to fix this?: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/102233/whitebox.png   That's a right-click dialog box
[16:42] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: But I suspect that the proposed repo installed something that is causing problems now.. but that's just my opinion
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Arcanewater_, I really don't know. I don't have any experience with GTP/ UEFI . My pc is fairly old and so are the drives except for my external media drive , so grub works on all and it sees my W7 install
[16:43] <leftyfb> it's intermittent, but it's white more often then populated
[16:43] <ardchoille> leftyfb: did you just install a gtk theme?
[16:43] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, okay  let me wait for bazhang
[16:43] <rodhash> Guys… is there any way to replace lockscreen by loginscreen?
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, What are you clicking on is that a TTY?
[16:43] <leftyfb> Archtivity: I'm using the stock theme
[16:43] <ardchoille> leftyfb: ok
[16:44] <ardchoille> wilee-nilee: looks like his xterm
[16:44] <leftyfb> wilee-nilee: it's Terminator
[16:44] <leftyfb> my xterm
[16:44] <leftyfb> just an example
[16:44] <leftyfb> happens with all applications
[16:44] <leftyfb> thunderbird, chrome, firefox, pidgin, etc
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, Ah you might be missing a graphic driver.
[16:45] <leftyfb> I'm using the official nvidia driver
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, Have you tried the 2d desktop?
[16:45] <leftyfb> nope .. because I need compiz
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, Official from them or from the repo?
[16:45] <leftyfb> it's more than likely a compiz issue
[16:45] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many time, but i havent't found a suitable solution with google: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)
[16:45] <leftyfb> wilee-nilee: from them
[16:45] <leftyfb> this was working fine on 10.04
[16:46] <leftyfb> damn, bbiab
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, YOU never want to use theirs it will not follow kernel updates. You would only use theirs if nothing else worked.
[16:46] <xibalba> could it be a big issue if you have your controller and zfs file system on different block sizes?
[16:48] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  i was not aware with 12.10 its already released
[16:48] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: not until the 28th of this month
[16:48] <chinneseproduct> hoooppsopen the website  ubuntu.com
[16:48] <chinneseproduct> its there ardchoille
[16:50] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)
[16:50] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: that's not the stable release
[16:51] <d_flipflop> hello guys.. anyone else have major issues with Skype 4.0?
[16:52] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, but 12.04 amd 12.10 which one is stable release
[16:52] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: 12.04
[16:53] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: 12.10 isn't released as final yet
[16:53] <d_flipflop> I got rid of pulse audio to get the sound to work in wine, but then my Skype 2.2 broke horribly (it just crashes right after login)... updated to Skype 4.0, and I can log in just fine, I hear notification sounds, but sounds in actual calls are broken... :/
[16:53] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: that is final beta, still not the final release.
[16:54] <chinneseproduct> yes i know 12.10 isnt released  but am i asking u that 12.04 and 12.10
[16:54] <LennyKitty> 'q
[16:54] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: what about them?
[16:54] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: if you know 12.10 isn't released as final then why did you ask?
[16:54] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, how long does   12.10 supported
[16:54] <sqrt7744> can someone tell me where I can put a command I want run every time the computer boots up?
[16:54] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: 18 months
[16:55] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: less than 12.04 because 12.04 is a LTS release
[16:55] <d_flipflop> sqrt7744: I have an entry called "startup applications" in System > Preferences menu
[16:56] <sqrt7744> d_flipflop, I need to set some parameters for my webcam, it has to be systemwide because it's a multiuser computer
[16:56] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)  Can anybody help me to solve this issue
[16:56] <truexfan81> can anyone help me figure out why ctrl+alt+backspace is not restarting the xserver on my 12.04?
[16:56] <chinneseproduct> if  12.10 will be for 18month how bout 12.04 though its ya LTS
[16:56] <d_flipflop> sqrt7744, ah ok, well there should be something in /etc somewhere where you can put a script
[16:56] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: 12.04 is 5 years
[16:56] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: 12.04 is supported for 5 years
[16:56] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, so beta to have 12.04
[16:57] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: what?
[16:57] <carmi> beta=better I guess
[16:57] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: oh, better yes
[16:57] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, better to have 12.04
[16:57] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: you're better off staying with 12.04
[16:57] <jrib> truexfan81: that's been disabled by default for quite a while
[16:58] <truexfan81> i would like to have it back, its annoying having to go to cli just to restart xorg
[16:58] <chinneseproduct> or can i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 is it applicable ThinkT510 and ardchoille
[16:58] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: why do you need to restart xorg?
[16:59] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: when they are released yes
[16:59] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I don't know, I always do clean installs isntead of upgrades
[16:59] <shwaiil> Q: got new pc and ready to install ubuntu. I'll need to install win because of some sotware unfortunately. should I install win first or ubuntu because of the boot issues ?! tks
[16:59] <truexfan81> well a few minutes ago i had to when my wm quit
[16:59] <chinneseproduct> okay ThinkT510 i will do it
[16:59] <truexfan81> for some reason focus wasn't follow the mouse, so even tho i could open a terminal i could not type in it
[17:00] <jrib> truexfan81: see the "DontZap" option in « man xorg.conf » if you really want it though I don't see why you would be restarting X so often
[17:00] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, why upgrade worse  comped to clean installation
[17:00] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: just my personal preference
[17:00] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, why upgrade worse  compared to clean installation
[17:00] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: less can go wrong with a clean install
[17:00] <d_flipflop> sqrt7744: yeah, it's /etc/init.d where you can put startup scripts, or if you want you can add it to /etc/rc.local which is maybe easier
[17:01] <sqrt7744> d_flipflop, thanks
[17:01] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: Thank you, I knew there was a reasonm
[17:01] <d_flipflop> sure thing :)
[17:01] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, technical  recommendation of upgrade and clean installation
[17:01] <ThinkT510> ardchoille: i only clean install too
[17:01] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, I wonder if this would have worked for Arcanewater , http://www.wensley.org.uk/gpt
[17:01] <truexfan81> jrib: i haven't used man in months lol can you please remind me the shortcut to search?
[17:02] <jrib> truexfan81: /
[17:02] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)  Can anybody help me to solve this issue? Thanks in advance!
[17:03] <truexfan81> i know there is one jrib i have used it before
[17:03] <jrib> truexfan81: you'll probably want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config too
[17:03] <jrib> truexfan81: '/' is how you search
[17:03] <truexfan81> lol so simple
[17:03] <truexfan81> thanks
[17:03] <shwaiil> Q: version 12.10 is almost coming out and I'm going to install ubuntu in a new computer. If I install it, can I then upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 ? There's no intel x86 64bit for beta 12.10. Thanks for looking
[17:03] <ThinkT510> shwaiil: yes
[17:04] <bazhang> !final | shwaiil
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Not sure to be honest there are official ubuntu wiki's on this stuff.  I spent a long time on the UF helping with grub issues and dualbooting stuff, there were a couple of helpers there who knew this part of it and were on daily, so I let them mess with the unusual partitioning stuff, lol.
[17:04] <bazhang> shwaiil, amd64 is for intel 64 as well
[17:04] <shwaiil> bazhang: is for intel too ? oh so ok I'll just stick with beta, pretty sure is better then 12.04 no ?!
[17:05] <shwaiil> I'll have to install windows because of some programs, should I install it first and then ubuntu ?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, here is one of the best helpers there. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11509699&postcount=2
[17:05] <shwaiil> so it doesn't screw the mbr or whatever its called
[17:05] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, it looks like grub devs better get a handle this if we're going to see more and more pcs with GPT tables
[17:05] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, there is a  rumor  but i don like em at all that  several clean installation degrade the  hdd
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, I think they do it is just not a click and play situation.
[17:06] <leftyfb> wilee-nilee: I always use nvidia's because I get full functionality out of my nvidia card and more recently, the repo drivers break several things and is slower
[17:06] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I'll believe it when I see it ;)
[17:06] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  hahahahahahahahahahaha
[17:06] <leftyfb> wilee-nilee: also, I had this same issue with the repo drivers
[17:07] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  but have u ever  heard it
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, Cool, all I know is that the advice in general is to use the repos versions. It may be do mto most or many not having a clue in this area, and are not prepared to reinstall the nvidia versions when a kernel update or upgrade comes through.
[17:07] <leftyfb> bad advice
[17:07] <mercsniper> Good day folks
[17:07] <mercsniper> is it possible to install compat libraries?
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, Are you calling my advice bad?
[17:08] <leftyfb> dkms reinstalls the driver without issue btw
[17:08] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: the more a harddisk is used the more it gets worn, the process takes quite a while though, when you start seeing bad sectors then the drive is nearing the end of its life
[17:08] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card  and the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)  Can anybody help me to solve this issue? Thanks in advance!
[17:08] <BluesKaj> leftyfb , best to install the nvidia-current driver , then reboot
[17:08] <leftyfb> wilee-nilee: when suggesting nouveau over official drivers from nvidia, yes
[17:08] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: incorrect
[17:09] <ThinkT510> leftyfb: what is wrong with nouveau?
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> leftyfb, welcome to my ignore list, what I have said is the standrad rhetoric, just because you experience is different does not show any problems. I DID NOT SAY USE NOUVEAH DRIVERS MORON>
[17:09] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, maybe for you , but iut works for most nvidia cards
[17:09] <bazhang> leftyfb, its the officially supported method. to get from the repos. lets not argue about this any further
[17:10] <leftyfb> so other than suggesting nouveau which doesn't fix my issue, isn't the problem and introduced more problems, is there no other advice here?
[17:10] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, lets move on
[17:10] <Sitta> what are you talking about>
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, no problem they are in ignore forever. ;)
[17:10] <mercsniper> are compat libraries still required to run different arch programs?
[17:10] <bazhang> Sitta, ubuntu support
[17:10] <leftyfb> very well, thanks for the help from the official ubuntu support and community
[17:11] <ardchoille> mercsniper: different arch programs?
[17:11] <mercsniper> ardchoille: yes
[17:11] <ardchoille> mercsniper: the advice I've always been given is to never mix packages
[17:12] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card  and the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)  Can anybody help me to solve this issue? Thanks in advance! Please reply, I am not s
[17:12] <carmi> ure if you can read my messages. )I use this client for the first time)
[17:12] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, if you're so sure about what doesn't work then from your obvious great powers of deduction youshould be able find a driver that , and feel free to report back to us which one that is, so we share this gift with everyone who needs it.
[17:12] <mercsniper> trying to install the demo of ida after installing using the minimal install
[17:12] <bazhang> BluesKaj, hes gone
[17:13] <miraje> carmi; no control on the television setup?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> too bad .. bazhang , just when i came up with a witty comment :)
[17:13] <shwaiil> Q: If i'm going to install ubuntu on SSD, what should I remember doing when creating the partitions: the swap / temp files thing ,etc ?
[17:13] <shwaiil> I remember iv'e got to do something but its not clear atm
[17:14] <bazhang> shwaiil, not anything special, no
[17:14] <miraje> shwaiil; not a good idea to put swap on ssd
[17:14] <shwaiil> bazhang: are you sure ? otherwise my ssd will die soon
[17:14] <bazhang> shwaiil, install windows first, the ubuntu installer will take care of the rest
[17:14] <RobbyF> shwaiil, all you really need is a /root /swap /home, some people will do a /boot
[17:14] <carmi> miraje: I disabled the overscan function of the panasonic TV, that's all
[17:14] <shwaiil> miraje: yeah that's why I'm asking :T should't I have tmp swap or whatever in my secondary hdd or something
[17:15] <macsim> hi, I got a weird problem, a friend of mine want me to install ubuntu on his laptop, I try to install through live usb (cdrom is dead) when I choose usb boot computer reboot start on usb but all harddrive are disabled, anybody know what's going wrong ?
[17:15] <shwaiil> just want to remember what to do
[17:15] <systems7> hello
[17:15] <shwaiil> RobbyF: so the /swap in the non SSD ?
[17:15] <miraje> shwaiil; it's not that swap shouldn't be on a second drive, it's that swap should not be on a ssd, or else it will die soon
[17:15] <systems7> i have an ubuntu installation on a CF card, that im trying to boot on another motherboard but i get the error of eth0 not present
[17:15] <systems7> is there a way to change the driver for eth0
[17:16] <carmi> miraje: If i activate the overscan funvtion, then the black border shrinks up to 2%
[17:16] <shwaiil> miraje: yeah I know, that's why I'm asking, just making sure I don't forget to put the right paths on the right place (non-ssd)
[17:16] <RobbyF> shwaiil, it's all pref.
[17:16] <shwaiil> RobbyF: ok i'm lost 0D
[17:16] <miraje> shwaiil; at least put swap on it's own partition on the main drive
[17:16] <shwaiil> :D
[17:16] <RobbyF> if you put it on a secondary then you'll have more SSD space for stuff that matters
[17:17] <miraje> carmi; 2% isn't bad
[17:17] <shwaiil> miraje: what's the pahts that shouldn't be in the SSD ? my ssd is the primary drive =)
[17:17] <BluesKaj> carmi, is the fglrx driver the only one you've tried so far ?
[17:18] <miraje> shwaiil; what is the device name for your main (mechanical) harddrive?
[17:18] <shwaiil> miraje: its not setup yet I'll do it 2 hours from now when I get home, got a new computer
[17:18] <carmi> miraje:  I know, but it is still sad that I have bought a new graphic card which should support 1920x1080, which is native of the panasonic
[17:19] <shwaiil> I just wanted to know what shouldn't be in the SSD (main-drive-primary)
[17:19] <Lockal> OHH feels so good with huge nvidia icons in unity http://i.imgur.com/O32zB.png :) need to use this trick in my own apps!
[17:20] <carmi> BluesKaj: I did not try other driver (expect the mesa (default of ubuntu)) -> with the default driver it uses the whole screen
[17:20] <shwaiil> so from what I've read so far, is the... swap and /home ?!
[17:20] <RobbyF> carmi, is it a newer TV? I had the same issue before (nvidia driver) I had to manually set resolution and it still didn't fit 100%, newer tvs will support HTPC.  older may need to use DVI cables
[17:20] <miraje> shwaiil; swap should never be on a ssd, temp would preferably not be on a ssd
[17:20] <truexfan81> jrib: i don't have this DontZap setting in my xorg.conf file so this man page is not helping
[17:20] <Frostbyte> How can I make a live usb go directly in live mode? (skipping the GUI that says Try/Install)
[17:20] <systems7> i have an ubuntu server installation on a CF card, that im trying to boot on another motherboard but i get the error of eth0 not present
[17:20] <systems7> is there a way to change the driver for eth0
[17:20] <systems7> i have an ubuntu server installation on a CF card, that im trying to boot on another motherboard but i get the error of eth0 not present, is there a way to change the driver for eth0
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, I don't believe you can.
[17:21] <Frostbyte> :/
[17:21] <alien2050> shwaiil: how much ram do you got
[17:21] <shwaiil> miraje: yeah I know it shouldn't be in SSD, that's why I'm asking, wish others I need to put on non-ssd
[17:21] <Frostbyte> I'll have to hit the key every time hm?
[17:21] <shwaiil> 16gb
[17:21] <shwaiil> alien2050: tks for looking
[17:21] <carmi> the TV is approx 2 year old, the default ubuntu driver and also windows could use the whole screen, therefore I guess i have to confiure the fglrx driver
[17:21] <Frostbyte> (it's persistent btw)
[17:21] <BluesKaj> carmi, does the vesa driver give the 19290x1080 resolution ?
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, If you have a big enough usb flash a full install is what has better longterm use if you are using a persistent function now.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> oops 1920x1080
[17:21] <jrib> truexfan81: right well, you'd likely want to change its value
[17:22] <shwaiil> alien2050: I'm going to setup a new computer in a few hours and all I want to know is, what's the paths that shouldn't be in SSD. So far I understood Swap and /home
[17:22] <truexfan81> jrib: correct, which section do i need to put it in?
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, The persistent will fill up at some point, and virtually impossible to empty.
[17:22] <jrib> truexfan81: I don't know
[17:22] <Frostbyte> point is, I want to transfer it from pc to pc (with different hardware)
[17:22] <alien2050> 16gb, you probably will never hit the swap, but if it does, what is the SSD? Most SSD are now capable to prevent wear by doing wear leveling
[17:22] <socrates1> hello guys
[17:22] <Frostbyte> full installation might not catch it
[17:22] <carmi> BluesKay: yes the default driver of ubuntu uses the whole screen, right after installing fglrx the visible area shrinks
[17:23] <Frostbyte> wilee-nilee, I'm using casper partition, not file :P
[17:23] <alien2050> is it your new rig ? or is it for other people and are they doing intensive apps
[17:23] <jrib> truexfan81: actually, there is an alternative combo you can use.  I forgot about it.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, Doea not matter as far as cleaning, but it allows far a bigger persistent.
[17:23] <systems7> i have an ubuntu server installation on a CF card, that im trying to boot on another motherboard but i get the error of eth0 not present, is there a way to change the driver for eth0
[17:23] <alien2050> if it's your rig, and you're not sure about the quality of the drive, do not worry and don't put swap even if it complains at install time...
[17:24] <Frostbyte> I do not plan on loading it stuff, just ssh and vpn stuff
[17:24] <alien2050> 16GB is a lot of ram....
[17:24] <BluesKaj> carmi, what about the catlyast GUI , doesn't it have optional settings expand the image ?
[17:24] <Frostbyte> but it gets quite tiresome having to wait for the menu to pop up, I wanna leave it and load :P
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, Cool I was just concerned you were aware of the limitations is all.
[17:24] <Frostbyte> yeah, already read the fine manual :D
[17:25] <qcjn> what is the usage of the promp that appears on the desktop when we type letters ?
[17:25] <alien2050> I have 24 gb myself and I've never hit swap unless with specific apps like Blender 3D rendering a huge scene with older versions which did not handle ram properly...
[17:25] <shwaiil> alien2050: yeah my new computer , the hdd is  60 GB Intel 520 Series SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk
[17:25] <alien2050> I would not worry
[17:25] <MINTTU{MB}> how do i repair a package?
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, Lol probably the only one to do so as far as channel visitors. ;)
[17:25] <bazhang> qcjn, what version of ubuntu
[17:25] <carmi> no, I couldn't found a suitable setting for that issue. (like a zoom factor=
[17:25] <TJ-> systems7: udev binds the MAC of the NIC to a device name in "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" - edit that and you should be sorted
[17:25] <shwaiil> alien2050: actually I'm a Blender guy :D but been out for 2 years and a half. thats the reason I bought this computer , also will have windows for fl studio and sony vegas
[17:25] <systems7> i have an ubuntu server installation on a CF card, that im trying to boot on another motherboard but i get the error of eth0 not present, is there a way to change the driver for eth0
[17:26] <MINTTU{MB}> f.eg. if the package 'linear programming kit' is broken ?
[17:26] <shwaiil> alien2050: so, I guess I should just care about SWAP being in optical hard drive (secondary)
[17:26] <andreb> good day all.. how can  i launch the file manager in unti as root ?
[17:26] <Frostbyte> irc is always the last resort for troubleshooting :P
[17:26] <alien2050> shwaiil: hey fellow blenderhead :)
[17:26] <BluesKaj> carmi, i have a panasonic plasma connected to a nvidia 8400gs without any problems , dvi>hdmi
[17:26] <bazhang> andreb, why would you need to
[17:26] <shwaiil> alien2050: looking forward to get my skills back, my last version was 2.49, so I'm very excited with the new interface and stuff
[17:27] <andreb> i want to edit some files and vi is a givng me beans... so i was wondering if i can open teh file manger as root or a text edit as root
[17:27] <alien2050> I've followed since 2.42 every version including compilation, 2.64 is just amazing btw
[17:27] <bazhang> andreb, gksudo nautilus   but be very caref ul with that
[17:27] <carmi> BluesKaj: I bought a HD6450 with a hdmi output to use it as a multimedia pc in my living room
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> andreb, File gksudo gedit "path to file"
[17:28] <alien2050> always on linux, no more windows for me since 2008 :) [well for games but this is all gonna change soon with steam for linux] ;)
[17:28] <alien2050> hopefully
[17:28] <qcjn> bazhang, thnk it s 11.10
[17:28] <BluesKaj> carmi, yup same here , I use it as a HTPC , but i prefer nvidia to ati for linux
[17:28] <systems7> thank you tj
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> or as suggested open nautilus in root andreb,
[17:28] <Frostbyte> wilee-nilee, btw, any clue why the stick doesn't seem to view the fat32 partition it boots from?
[17:28] <systems7> ill let u know how it goes
[17:28] <shwaiil> alien2050: well... I need to install it because of Fl Studio and I still like Sony Vegas better then the Blender NLE
[17:29] <mercsniper> trying to install ia32-libs-multiarch says i have unmet dependancies...
[17:29] <bazhang> qcjn, what does lsb_release -a in terminal say
[17:29] <Frostbyte> (aka doesn't mount)
[17:29] <BluesKaj> BBL , stuff to do for 20 mins or so
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, The fat shows as home/file basically I think it is open the OS=ISO is running from there
[17:29] <shwaiil> alien2050: I had to buy a laptop instead of a desktop because I've moved to london and need portability. My gfx card is a nVidia 660 gtx not sure if its going to work with cycles
[17:29] <qcjn> bazhang, 11.10
[17:29] <trism> qcjn: if you mean the textbox that appears when you type with the desktop focused, it is for the nautilus tree search, put a bunch of files in ~/Desktop and then type one of their names and it will highlight it
[17:29] <carmi> Next time I would better ask someone before I buy a hardware ;)
[17:29] <alien2050> shwaiil: you soooooo should try KXStudio repo (a Ubuntu version for musicians) with kernel tweaking
[17:29] <truexfan81> jrib: that works hehe
[17:30] <jrib> truexfan81: cool
[17:30] <alien2050> it's just the best, I do a lot of composing so....
[17:30] <Frostbyte> wilee-nilee, kewl, thankx
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, Not the most elegant explanation. ;)
[17:30] <Frostbyte> works for me :P
[17:30] <trism> qcjn: mostly useless if you don't have stuff on your desktop (works in a normal File Browser window too though)
[17:30] <alien2050> shwaiil: probably will work, as long as you've got CUDA compiled in cycles
[17:30] <Frostbyte> it's a symlink then
[17:30] <alien2050> but now I think it's by default
[17:31] <shwaiil> alien2050: cool. this is going to be the first time i'll use a laptop for working in blender, hope it's fine.
[17:31] <shwaiil> 17" monitor
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, I'm just a pseudo geek really, my interests are more armchair based.
[17:32] <qcjn> ok, i don't have stuuf on desktop
[17:32] <Frostbyte> wilee-nilee, same
[17:32] <qcjn> trism, i ll try it
[17:32] <Frostbyte> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47522/how-to-bypass-try-it-install-screen-when-booting-from-usb-live-session-wit
[17:32] <Frostbyte> think this might help?
[17:32] <Frostbyte> just stumbled upon that
[17:32] <shwaiil> alien2050: i'll work with ubuntu, thinking about installing 12.10 beta, not sure if it's a good idea
[17:33] <Frostbyte> gonna give it a try
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> Frostbyte, I just became interested in open source having gone back to college, and getting it as a first OS, and learned this while pursuing other degrees not even closely associated.
[17:33] <alien2050> with a 60GB, and if you (must) use winbloze... I'd say, create partitioning like so: OS(/): 26gb, win:26gb, swap:rest (but I wouldn't enable it yet, just reserve space)
[17:33] <Treadstone__71> Hello
[17:33] <Frostbyte> wilee-nilee, hehe, I too got to know unix from university.. and I liked it
[17:34] <Frostbyte> hence, I started to poke around on my own- because it's interesting
[17:34] <qcjn> trism, is it recursive, cause i cut put a folder. So that way my desktop wouldn't be full of crap
[17:34] <shwaiil> alien2050: thanks for the tip. I'll put the swap in the secondary driver, non-ssd
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> yeah same here a bit of a obsession here really, but we are way OT.
[17:35] <shwaiil> actually this article says I don't have to care about ssd optimization and ware off http://askubuntu.com/questions/1400/how-do-i-optimize-the-os-for-ssds
[17:35] <qcjn> trism, or can i change in which folder it search ?
[17:35] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card  and the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)  Can anybody help me to solve this issue? Thanks in advance!
[17:37] <qcjn> trism, ok, thanks, i just tried in Nautilus. I understand the principal. Since on desktop, i'm in the desktop folder, thats where it searches. Thanks
[17:39] <shwaiil> Thnks for the tips guys!
[17:39] <Frostbyte> wilee-nilee, gonna try it - will be back with results :P
[17:43] <trism> qcjn: sorry was making coffee, don't think it is recursive, ctrl+f is though
[17:46] <carmi> Hallo, I guess you have handled that problem many times, but i haven't found a suitable solution with  the help of google. Problem: I use ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a ATI HD6450 graphic card  and the HDMI Output is connected to a LCD TV from Panasonic. After installing the fgrxl driver I got a black border around the visible area of the screen. (approx. 5%)  Can anybody help me to solve this issue? Thanks in advance!
[17:47] <Guest98188> hy, i have a problem with xubuntu and all major linux distros that ived used
[17:47] <Guest98188> it doesn't recognize my mpman tk250 mp4 as mass storange
[17:47] <MonkeyDu1t> Guest98188  that's a lot of distro's, let's hear it
[17:47] <Guest98188> can help me someone
[17:47] <Guest98188> ?
[17:47] <sikilpaake> how can i disable a service on a mounted boot disk?
[17:47] <Domincii> hey, i've posted this to WineHQ but it seems to be inactive at the moment, so I'll ask here, I hope that's ok. I can't seem to be able to Alt-Tab out of games being ran by Wine, could anyone explain why?
[17:48] <hilo> hello everyone. I am trying to set up a headless VirtualBox server. I followed instructions from a video (http://www.category5.tv/episodes/230.php About 37 minutes in), but the 'vboxweb-service' fails to start and nothing works. Can anyone offer any suggestions to get this up and running?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> carmi, http://www.aoclarkejr.com/ati-catalyst-9-9-overcan-and-underscan-options.html
[17:48] <foirin> from google i found nothing
[17:49] <foirin> ?
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> hilo, Nice hair on the gal, l.ol
[17:50] <cosmicfires> what usb tv sticks are easy to use with 12.04?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> cosmicfires, Hauppauge is quite linux friendly
[17:52] <hilo> wilee-nilee: lol yeah. I actually was directed to that video by someone here when I came asking more general questions last month
[17:52] <carmi> BluesKaj: thanks for the link, but it seems that the function is not available in the linux version of the CCC
[17:53] <cosmicfires> BluesKaj any particular model recommended?
[17:53] <cosmicfires> I have an eyetv hybrid for my mac but I can't find a linux driver
[17:53] <Adie> carmi, the information is in the right direction though
[17:54] <Adie> if you do a little searching on google, you might be able to find more relevant information on how to disable underscan
[17:54] <carmi> Adie: Do you have a command for me?
[17:54] <Adie> That is the problem though. HDMI automaticly underscans to be sure it fits on a tv properly. (it assumes HDMI is going to be a TV)
[17:55] <MonkeyDu1t> Adie  don't tell to search google, when people ask for help, please
[17:55] <Adie> I don't, but I am sure there is lots of information if you google for it
[17:55] <Adie> ^_)^
[17:55] <Adie> :(
[17:55] <MonkeyDu1t> !google
[17:55] <carmi> I googled it, but the command i tried didn't work
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> hilo, This is kind of interesting  http://www.technewsworld.com/story/76198.html   http://www.amazon.com/Android-Player-Support-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B0095OMQ0Y
[17:56] <Adie> what command did you try?
[17:56] <carmi> http://www.aoclarkejr.com/ati-catalyst-9-9-overcan-and-underscan-options.html
[17:56] <carmi> ups
[17:56] <carmi> sudo aticonfig --tv-overscann=off
[17:57] <hdon> hi all :) how do i send F1 to pty in gnome-terminal? the menu hotkey is eating it
[17:57] <Adie> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?15017-Is-there-a-way-to-permanently-disable-the-default-underscanning&p=59406#post59406
[17:57] <Adie> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring
[17:57] <jorvis> I checked the topic and was hoping to see that this was a general problem, but no.   I'm running 12.04 and overnight my desktop had hanged.  I restarted it and every customization I had done to Gnome3 is gone.  Also, if I open anything like the "Change Desktop Background" window it just keep reopening once I close it.  (I tried in Unity also)
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> hilo, Not exactly what your looking for but kinda cool ad cheap.
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> and*
[17:58] <xibalba> colosandiego.com, anyone wana buy it?
[17:58] <jrib> !ot | xibalba
[17:59] <foirin> can someone help me, or just say that is not possible to connect the mpman tk250 mp4 on linux!
[17:59] <actionParsnip> foirin: is it usb based?
[17:59] <foirin> yes
[17:59] <actionParsnip> foirin: plug it in, there will then be a connection
[18:00] <foirin> ived done that, but is not working
[18:00] <foirin> works fine with windows but not with linux
[18:00] <andrewaclt> Do you speak french?
[18:00] <bobo37773> foirin: Is it just an sd card or something with data written on it?
[18:00] <foirin> it is an mp4 player, it has internal memory!
[18:01] <andrewaclt> foirin, http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=327739
[18:01] <actionParsnip> foirin: oh you want to copy things to it?
[18:01] <actionParsnip> foirin: thats a bit more than a connection dude
[18:01] <carmi> Adie: I am going to restart my computer, i now tried it with the command "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0 "
[18:02] <bobo37773> foirin: plug it in and do a `sudo fdisk -l` and see if you see your device
[18:02] <actionParsnip> foirin: when you last unplugged it, did you safely remove it or did you ust yank it out?
[18:02] <foirin> yes i just want to copy something to it
[18:02] <chinneseproduct> anyone knowledge of of LAMP INSTALLATION
[18:02] <actionParsnip> !lamp | chinneseproduct
[18:02] <foirin> ok i will do the thing in terminal
[18:02] <foirin> i'l be back
[18:02] <foirin> :))
[18:02] <chinneseproduct> yes actionParsnip
[18:02] <actionParsnip> foirin: did you safetly remove it last time it was plugged in to windows?
[18:03] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: that guide shows how to install it with taskel
[18:03] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, not based on this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP cuz  failed
[18:04] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: can you give some actual details, just saying 'cuz failed' helps nobody, most of all you
[18:04] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip,  i have tried alot with the method directed
[18:04] <carmi> Adie:  Thanks a lot, this command works fine
[18:05] <foirin> it doesn't appear in the list made by the command!
[18:05] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: can you use http://pastie.org to give the output of the command/s you ran pleas
[18:05] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, see this
[18:05] <foirin> 10x aniway
[18:05] <actionParsnip> foirin: when you unplugged it from windows, did you use the safe remove feature
[18:06] <actionParsnip> foirin: have you checked the file system health in Windows too
[18:06] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, see this  http://pastebin.com/ThDvvQQz
[18:06] <BluesKaj> carmi, try this one sudo aticonfig --tv-overscan=off , the one you posted had 2 n's i scan
[18:07] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:07] <foirin> the windows opens just fine, i expect the xubuntu recognise this as mass storage
[18:07] <chinneseproduct> okay let me run it actionParsnip
[18:07] <foirin> but not, when i plug it in its just charging!
[18:07] <carmi> BluesKaj: the problem is solved, I solved it with the command "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0 "
[18:07] <actionParsnip> foirin: can you answer my 2 questions please
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: I have asked multiple times...
[18:08] <foirin> ok!
[18:08] <carmi> I guess there are too many command for the same thing ;)
[18:08] <BluesKaj> carmi, cool ,where did you find that >
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: when you unplug it, do you safetly remove it
[18:08] <carmi> Adie found it
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: have you check the file system health in windows
[18:08] <foirin> from windows i dont
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: you MUST
[18:08] <carmi> adie is a user in this chatroom
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: it is there for a REASON
[18:09] <Pici> !who
[18:09] <foirin> yes, is not just mine,  a lot of people ived seen having problem with that
[18:09] <actionParsnip> foirin: if you don't unmount the device properly in Windows it wil be marked as dirty and Linux will have issues with it. You will also not physically damage the device
[18:09] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, its output is precise
[18:10] <actionParsnip> foirin: you as mistreating your device, then are surpricd you are getting issues?
[18:10] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[18:10] <foirin> i asked here to see if someone have managed to resolve that problem
[18:10] <carmi> ubottu: !tab is that a command?
[18:10] <actionParsnip> foirin: plug the device into windows and check the device's health
[18:10] <foirin> 10x
[18:10] <cosmicfires> is the Hauppauge 1191 a good choice?
[18:11] <actionParsnip> foirin: then in the system tray, you will see an icon to eject the device safely, use this and I bet it works in Linux without issue
[18:11] <bekks> cosmicfires: Which chipset does that device have?
[18:11] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | carmi
[18:11] <cosmicfires> WinTV-HVR-950Q is that the chipset?
[18:11] <bekks> cosmicfires: No. Thats the WinTV model number :)
[18:11] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:11] <cosmicfires> which chipset should I look for?
[18:11] <aljosa> which filesystem would you use w/ ubuntu 12.04 installation on ssd disk?
[18:12] <bekks> cosmicfires: The dvb chipset built into that device.
[18:12] <carmi> okok, I see I have to improve my IRC knowledge ;)
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> aljosa, ext4
[18:13] <bekks> cosmicfires: At least that device is about 3 years old.
[18:13] <jshriver> greetings
[18:13] <cosmicfires> I'm looking for the chipset on the hauppauge site
[18:14] <jshriver> Any tips of why a previously working onboard audio device would stop working? I checked pulseaudio and alsamixer and volume is up on everything, and unmuted. However I noticed it only lists HDMI.
[18:14] <sidney_> can i customize the top panel in 12.04
[18:15] <BluesKaj> jshriver, what's your soundcard?
[18:15] <bekks> cosmicfires: I'd buy a current device.
[18:15] <cosmicfires> bekks which chipsets are good with linux?
[18:15] <bekks> !hcl | cosmicfires
[18:15] <jshriver> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[18:15] <jshriver> is what lspci gives me
[18:15] <cosmicfires> thanks
[18:15] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, have  see these http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:16] <BluesKaj> jshriver, try this , aplay -l , it should show the same card
[18:16] <jshriver> hrm it actually gives me 2 (analog, and HDMI)
[18:17] <jshriver> http://pastebin.com/qKcPYdrq
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ok jshriver , what's you preferred connection there?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> your
[18:17] <jshriver> HDA Intel, which is the speaker + audio out jacks.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok the analog device in phonon , is the test audible ?
[18:20] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, am waiting for your recommendation on this  http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:20] <jshriver> no, no audio at all
[18:20] <jshriver> and when I go into alsamixer this is what it says:  Chip: Intel IbexPeak HDMI
[18:20] <hilo> Can someone assist or point me in the right direction for a virtualbox issue? I have tried 4.2 and 4.1 both giving the same issue. The vboxweb-service will not start and gives very little output to look for the cause. Any suggestions welcome.
[18:20] <jshriver> which makes me think it's only allowing me to use the HDMI audio out. I tried f6 to select card but that is the only one listed
[18:21] <jshriver> appreciate the help :) never had this happen before.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok , one more command to show us which driver/module is loaded , cat /proc/asound/modules
[18:22] <jshriver>  0 snd_hda_intel
[18:23] <jshriver> if I go the GUI route, Sound Preferencse, and pick Output it only has this listed "Internal Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[18:23] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok it looks like the correct module is loading ,but just to make sure , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[18:24] <jshriver> done
[18:24] <BluesKaj> did the command give any output , if not , then the right module is in use now , jshriver
[18:25] <ThinkT510> carmi: can you see me?
[18:25] <carmi> ThinkT510: Thanks!
[18:26] <jshriver> hrm brb trying diff apps
[18:26] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, can u help me on LAMP installation
[18:26] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: i can't sorry, no experience
[18:26] <BluesKaj> jshriver, one more thing , do you have pavucontrol installed ..it's the pulseaudio GUI and it's setings are quite useful for input and output options and choices
[18:26] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, thenks
[18:27] <jackdup> quick question; when I start typing from the desktop, what is the little box on the bottom right hand corner that pops up like a search bar?
[18:27] <jorvis> good question
[18:27] <BluesKaj> jackdup, what are typing into?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> jackdup: in unity the desktop is like an open instance of nautilus
[18:28] <jackdup> well, I just start typing with no program open and a little search box pops up?
[18:28] <jshriver> odd
[18:28] <jshriver> well now when I turn the volumne up and down I can hear the beep beep sound but still nothing from vlc or mplayer or mplayer -ao alsa
[18:29] <chinneseproduct> anybody with knowledge of LAMP installation
[18:29] <bekks> jackdup: Its a search box for installed programs.
[18:29] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I bet there are.
[18:29] <chinneseproduct> okay beks
[18:29] <jackdup> but if i hit enter, even with the name of an installed program, it just closes, and nothing
[18:29] <chinneseproduct> help me  here
[18:29] <BluesKaj> jshriver, did you see my post about pavucontrol above ?
[18:29] <jshriver> oh let me check
[18:29] <bekks> chinneseproduct: No. First, please just ask what you really want to know :)
[18:30] <jshriver> ty installing now
[18:30] <chinneseproduct> bekks, i want to install LAMP
[18:30] <BluesKaj> !who | jshriver
[18:30] <bekks> chinneseproduct: You've been told several times on how to do it. I've read it.
[18:31] <jshriver> Ubottu: will do, I apologize.
[18:31] <chinneseproduct> bekks, i have tried but wasn't successfully
[18:32] <chinneseproduct> bekks,  thats why am trying to ask other guys
[18:32] <Ririshi> Hey people
[18:32] <bekks> chinneseproduct: So what have you done exactly? what exactly didnt work? Please be much more precise.
[18:32] <Ririshi> I just got ubuntu 12.04.1 installed and I'm TOTALLY new to linux and so, I am new to ubuntu, too.
[18:32] <ThinkT510> !manual | Ririshi
[18:33] <Ririshi> thank you ThinkT510 :D
[18:33] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks  see this http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:33] <MonkeyDu1t> Ririshi  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise
[18:33] <jshriver> BluesKaj: hrm still not working. I'll tinker with it later this evening. Seems like the alsa module can see both output channels, but the pulse audio system only sees HDMI as a viable output device.  Thanks for the help though and have a good day :)
[18:34] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Well, then install apache2, mysql, php without tasksel.
[18:35] <BluesKaj> jshriver, the pavucontrol has dropdowns that should show your analog output device
[18:35] <chinneseproduct> bekks, even that fails
[18:35] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Because...? What exactly have you tried, what exactly happened?
[18:35] <jshriver> BlueSkaj aye, but sadly it doesn't does list Analog Input though, but not output
[18:36] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://pastebin.com/WeTvKUym
[18:37] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: could you please run `sudo apt-get update`?
[18:37] <chinneseproduct> valterguy, already run updates
[18:38] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Why dont you install apache2-mpm-prefork when it is required, as mentioned in the error message?
[18:38] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I still think these problems stem from having that "proposed" repo enabled
[18:38] <Ririshi> Is there  a way to set the "executable program" as a standard in properties? making every file executable as program standardly? or is that only harmful? (I'm already pist by this >.<)
[18:39] <VonWhistler> i have statically configured 3 network devices in /etc/network/interfaces all on the same network (Vmware NAT) . However, only one of them gets connectivity, and it seems to randomly choose which eth device upon each reboot, whats up? 12.04 server
[18:39] <jrib> Ririshi: that's not a good idea.  Why do you want to do that?
[18:39] <ardchoille> Ririshi: I can't even begin to tell you how unsafe and insecure that would be
[18:39] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok , edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root, and add the the line to the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , save the file and reboot
[18:39] <VonWhistler> Von ps I have created 3 NICS in vmware, and ifconfig ethx shows each having unique MAC addresses
[18:39] <Ririshi> jrib: ardchoille: it would make my life easier imo..
[18:40] <jrib> Ririshi: how so?
[18:40] <yekoms> what would cause a uptime drift? i started two machines, 2 minutes apart, now the uptime is 6 minutes apart
[18:40] <yekoms> ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 8.04 here.
[18:40] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://pastebin.com/fjH9rs5w
[18:40] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: did you set a default gateway for all 3 interfaces?
[18:40] <VonWhistler> yes
[18:40] <jrib> yekoms: maybe the times were off when you first started (note I don't actually know if this would matter)
[18:40] <ardchoille> Ririshi: Trust me, you don't want to do that. It sounds good now but your system would suffer in the long run
[18:41] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: that's why then, only set one with a gateway
[18:41] <yekoms> you mean the system time? those are set VIA ntpd
[18:41] <carmi> Hello, what are your experiences with watching youtube videos and your cpu performance. Some time the systemmonitor shows my an usage of over 90%. (Intel Core 2 Duo)
[18:41] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, lets see bekks
[18:41] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, yes. when i type "ifup ethX" for the non-working devices it says failed to bring up
[18:41] <root_> hello
[18:41] <yekoms> carmi, that is normal.
[18:41] <jrib> yekoms: well maybe ntpd fixed the times too late.  Again, I'm just making a guess
[18:41] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: please don't highlight me, I can
[18:41] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, meaning i should globally specify the gateway?
[18:41] <ardchoille> t be of any further help
[18:41] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: you will kill routing with 3 interfaces on the same subnet all with a gateway defined
[18:41] <root_> some one can help me ,
[18:41] <yekoms> i didnt think the timesync would cause that.
[18:42] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: no, set one interface with a gateway, the others not
[18:42] <yekoms> the timestamps on both servers are identical.
[18:42] <chinneseproduct> ok ardchoille
[18:42] <jrib> yekoms: now
[18:42] <Ririshi> ardchoille: okay then
[18:42] <bekks> chinneseproduct: disable the proposed repo, and rerun sudo apt-get update please.
[18:42] <carmi> yekoms: but sometime there are too less frames and I want to use this computer as multimedia station
[18:42] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, how will the other interfaces know how to communicate with nodes not on their subnet?
[18:42] <yekoms> carmi, then set it up for HIGH PERF.
[18:42] <chinneseproduct> bekks, how can disable the repo proposed
[18:42] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: didn't you say they were all in the same subnet?
[18:42] <bekks> chinneseproduct: How did you enable it? :)
[18:43] <Ramtron> hiiii how do you mount an iso and install it, in Linux, with wine?
[18:43] <carmi> yekoms: you mean I have an to old computer for my requests?
[18:43] <chinneseproduct> bekks, give the command  to run
[18:43] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Answer my question.
[18:43] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: only one interface needs a gateway, the others will be internal interfaces
[18:43] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, yes that does make sense, i will see if that helps
[18:43] <chinneseproduct> bekks from sudo apt-get install
[18:43] <yekoms> isnt the core duo a 2 core cpu carmi?
[18:43] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Impossible. Using apt-get install, you cannot enable or disable a repo.
[18:44] <carmi> yekoms: it is
[18:44] <bobo37773> root____2: whats up?
[18:44] <Ramtron> Anyone wanna help me mount an ISO and install it in Linux :D?
[18:44] <yekoms> then it is kind of old. but it can be done. increase the ram will help. and raise your swap from 2g to 4g
[18:44] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, perhaps this is a poor idea, but i feel as if two interfaces would need to have a gateway, i want to have a specific device that i only use for incoming ssh connections and another which is used to handle incoming apache connections
[18:44] <actionParsnip> Ramtron:
[18:44] <yekoms> that'll boost some performance, but not alot
[18:44] <Ramtron> Oh?
[18:44] <jshriver> BluesKaj: it works now :) rebooted and for whatever reason it comes up now lol. Haev a good day.
[18:44] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, is this a pointless configuration
[18:44] <actionParsnip> Ramtron: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /media/iso
[18:45] <jshriver> BluesKaj: must have been modules gnomes :)
[18:45] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: how do you mean?
[18:45] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Take a look at this site, and use it to DISABLE the proposed repo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[18:45] <Ramtron> I'll try it!
[18:45] <carmi> yekoms: I have 4GB ram in it, that should not be the reason
[18:45] <jordanm> VonWhistler: its useless unless each interface have their own pool of bandwidth eg don't connect to the same gateway
[18:45] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, I was hoping i could bring down given interfaces (as this is a loadbalanced apache setup) while still keeping my open ssh connection in tact
[18:45] <yekoms> well, what is it doing
[18:45] <actionParsnip> Ramtron: there is an app called mounty too, the mount command is childishly simple
[18:46] <yekoms> ALL flash runs a lil screwed up on linux..and i have a 8 core Intel 3200K with 16GB of ram.
[18:46] <jordanm> VonWhistler: why not just stop apache?
[18:46] <yekoms> i3200K
[18:46] <Ramtron> I'll look it up if this doesn''t work, thanks!
[18:46] <carmi> yekoms: nothing except systemmonitor and firefox and youtube, wait a mom, i will look which process cause the high usage
[18:46] <yekoms> firefox itself uses ram like a whore uses condoms without flash.
[18:46] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: you can use an interface for each service, you will still have the same central point / router so you won't really gain much
[18:47] <yekoms> i got my firefox open to about:firefox, which is a non html page and its used 119MB
[18:47] <IdleOne> yekoms: Please keep your examples family friendly
[18:47] <actionParsnip> yekoms: try chrome :)
[18:47] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: could you run `dpkg --list | grep '^i' | grep -v '^ii'` and see if you get any output
[18:47] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, okay, i am going to remove the default gateway from all but one of the interfaces and report back. thanks.
[18:48] <nvictor> hey guys, how does group ownership settings affects the removal of a file ? can the root user remove a file owned by a group which is not root ?
[18:48] <actionParsnip> nvictor: root can do anything
[18:49] <nvictor> i see thanks actionParsnip
[18:49] <jordanm> nvictor: file removal depends on the permissions on the directory, not the file itself
[18:50] <nvictor> jordanm, yes indeed. the directory's group is not root either
[18:50] <yekoms> actionParsnip,  i hate google chrome...
[18:50] <yekoms> bloated software :/ i like dolphin over chrome lol
[18:50] <jordanm> nvictor: the only way to prevent root from removing a file is to set the immutable attribute on it
[18:51] <quatar> hi all. I'm installing ubuntu alongside win7 on a new laptop. THe advanced partit. utility shows /dev/sda with 3 partitions (sda1,2,3) weighting 17, 0.4 and 622 GB. It's strange that the partitioning tool allows me to choose also "/dev/sdb" for installing the boot loader...
[18:51] <quatar> Anyway, what I want is to cut half the space of windows for putting ubntu
[18:51] <quatar> what should I do..?
[18:51] <actionParsnip> yekoms: uses fewer resources here
[18:52] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://imagebin.org/231306
[18:52] <yekoms> are you AMD or iNTEL actionParsnip ?
[18:52] <carmi> yekoms:  it is the plugin-container which uses the most of the cpu resources
[18:53] <yekoms> carmi, thats the flash plugin....
[18:53] <actionParsnip> yekoms: If I had to buy then AMD but without inbuilt video
[18:53] <actionParsnip> yekoms: or Intek without inbuilt video
[18:53] <jordanm> quatar: if you are installing from a usb drive, then that is your /dev/sdb. install the bootloader to the MBR in /dev/sda
[18:53] <carmi> yekoms: How could I improve the performance?
[18:53] <chinneseproduct> valterguy, it blinking
[18:53] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, wow that was toally breaking my networking. i wish there had been a clear error somewhere. I was looking in dmesg, but nothing. Thanks a lot
[18:53] <quatar> the really strange thing is that the basic partitioning tool (the one with a simple slider) doesn't show the icons "ubuntu" and "windows"
[18:53] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Then provide the output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade please, in a pastebin.
[18:53] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: simple networking dude
[18:53] <yekoms> carmi, im not sure how to improve flash performance...
[18:53] <actionParsnip> yekoms: why'd you ask?
[18:53] <quatar> jordanm: why the basic partitioning tool doesn't show me what the two sides are for?
[18:54] <yekoms> actionParsnip, ill never own AMD for daily use, just server, and i like onboard video support for both.
[18:54] <quatar> I'm a little bit afraid of going on...
[18:54] <jordanm> quatar: it should show you ext3/4 vs ntfs
[18:54] <carmi> yekoms: But that behavour is only under linux, or?
[18:54] <actionParsnip> yekoms: I always buy nvidia GPU due to Linux support :)
[18:55] <yekoms> its on windows too carmi
[18:55] <yekoms> ive noticed HIGH cpu/ram with firefox when watching flash carmi
[18:55] <Domincii> Hey Ubuntu, I have an .iso file with a Windows install on it, is there any way I can run it without putting it on to a disk/USB?
[18:55] <quatar> jordanm: mmh probably I should start again explaining. When I first open the installer, I choose "install ubuntu alongside win7", and I found a slider with no labels at all. Then I choose the advanced partitioning tool, which doesn't allow me to "split" an existing partition without formatting it all
[18:55] <actionParsnip> Domincii: virtualbox
[18:55] <yekoms> Domincii, vboxx
[18:55] <carmi> yekoms:  so in the end if have to invest in a new PC?
[18:56] <Domincii> actionparsnip + yekoms, Oracle VM VirtualBox, hows that one?
[18:56] <actionParsnip> quatar: resize the NTFS in WIndows7 and install to the new freed space. Be sure to run a full backup in case of catastrophe
[18:56] <yekoms> i wouldnt say that. what exactly is it doing wrong?
[18:56] <actionParsnip> Domincii: its fine, its in the repos too
[18:57] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267972/
[18:57] <quatar> actionParsnip: no backup needed, since the computer was bought two hours ago, fortunately :)
[18:57] <Domincii> actionparsnip, thanks buddy, do i just mount the .iso to it and run it?
[18:57] <carmi> Have a nice day, bye
[18:58] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Then run: sudo apt-get install apache2 now
[18:58] <actionParsnip> Domincii: no need, vbox can work on ISOs as is, no need to mount
[18:58] <quatar> actionParsnip: jordanm: anyway, this was the situation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150550/installing-ubuntu-with-windows-which-is-left-and-right-when-allocating-space unfortunately a bug that make me a little bit afraid of going on
[18:58] <actionParsnip> quatar: nice, resize and install
[18:58] <actionParsnip> quatar: resize in win7
[18:59] <quatar> actionParsnip: is it possible?
[18:59] <actionParsnip> quatar: I wouldn't say it if it wasn't
[18:59] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267981/
[18:59] <quatar> actionParsnip: is it there a guide? and will it just free the space or also format it someway?
[18:59] <actionParsnip> quatar: plenty online, youtube etc
[19:00] <quatar> actionParsnip: thx
[19:00] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: what do you mean 'blinking'
[19:00] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[19:00] <actionParsnip> quatar: just free the space, windows formatting isn't appropriate for Linux installs
[19:00] <chinneseproduct> valterguy, after run yuor command
[19:00] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: but no output?
[19:00] <quatar> actionParsnip: yes I know :)
[19:00] <devslash> I'm running ubuntu server and have forwarded a few ports to it for different purposes. I have shore wall firewall installed. Are there any other extra precautions that I should take when port forwarding to prevent unauthorized access ?
[19:00] <quatar> I just wanted to make sure not to find a new ntfs partition :P
[19:00] <chinneseproduct> yes no output valterguy
[19:01] <bekks> valterguy: We just ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, he's current now. :)
[19:01] <Domincii> actionparsnip, I assume I need to run it from terminal, could you help me to do so?
[19:01] <bekks> chinneseproduct: We can move on, we ran that commands too...
[19:01] <valterguy> bekks: i was just also checking if he had unconfigured packages. sorry if i missed something.
[19:01] <actionParsnip> Domincii: run what?
[19:01] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267990/
[19:01] <yekoms> vbox has a menu entry Domincii
[19:02] <bekks> valterguy: No problem :) Currently, we're checking wether all needed packages are installed.
[19:02] <valterguy> bekks: there we go. :)
[19:02] <Domincii> actionparsnip, yekoms, thank you, found it now
[19:02] <devslash> anyone ?
[19:04] <hardy> hi
[19:04] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5
[19:04] <hardy> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[19:04] <bekks> !de | hardy
[19:05] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267995/
[19:05] <hardy> bekks:  dankeschön
[19:06] <bekks> chinneseproduct: What happens here: sudo apt-get install php5
[19:08] <ziggyzero> **FIXED** All thanks for the suggestions with my MP3 issue. It was that the MP3 headers were corrupt. Running them through mp3val restored :-) I think was able to analyse them with mp3gain and apply the gain adjustments. Thanks.
[19:08] <Yourdaddy> Good morning. I am having issues launching qbittorent as it will not launch when clicking the icon. Is their a way to open in termina?
[19:08] <Yourdaddy> terminal
[19:09] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268002/ bekks
[19:09] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268002/
[19:09] <BluesKaj> Yourdaddy, yes type qbittorrent  either in the terminal or the run command , alt+f2
[19:11] <varikonniemi> jockey-gtk does not seem to find drivers for my geforce 2 mx
[19:11] <Ririshi> Could you help me?
[19:11] <Yourdaddy> this message comes up..called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
[19:11] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: i believe that will use the nouveau driver
[19:11] <Yourdaddy>   what():  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
[19:11] <Yourdaddy> Aborted (core dumped)
[19:11] <Ririshi> I got two questions: what's a good free IRC client for ubuntu 12.04? and two: could you help me with my MCPatcher minecraft error?
[19:11] <varikonniemi> actionParsnip, the proprietary owuld be faster
[19:12] <BluesKaj> varikonniemi, is nouveau working ok  ?
[19:12] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: i don't believe its supported by the proprietary driver
[19:12] <varikonniemi> in unity 2d yesw
[19:12] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:12] <varikonniemi> yes the legacy driver supports it?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> varikonniemi, then install nvidia-current and reboot
[19:12] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: i use pidgin and irssi
[19:13] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: are those GUI clients? because I'm a windows user and I'm totally used to n1 GUI stuff
[19:13] <Domincii> actionparsnip, i'm currently installing Windows via the virtual machine, once it's installed will I be able to use windows via the Gnome boot menu or will I only be able to use Windows from within Ubutu via the Virtual Machine?
[19:13] <varikonniemi> i dl'ed the driver from nvidias site
[19:13] <varikonniemi> installed it, and now the computer does not start
[19:14] <Yourdaddy> ideas on how to resolve this issue?called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
[19:14] <BluesKaj> no , don't use that one varikonniemi , try the nvidia-current driver first
[19:14] <Yourdaddy>   what():  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
[19:14] <Yourdaddy> Aborted (core dumped)
[19:14] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268012/
[19:14] <varikonniemi> yes i am now in recovery console and try to get system up
[19:14] <devslash> I'm running ubuntu server and have forwarded a few ports to it for different purposes. I have shore wall firewall installed. Are there any other extra precautions that I should take when port forwarding to prevent unauthorized access ?
[19:14] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268012/
[19:14] <bekks> chinneseproduct: You dont have to paste it twice.
[19:15] <quatar> actionParsnip: i've resized the win partition from win itself. Now I'm letting win7 recognize its new partition table, rebooting. But.. now I'm going to have the freed space ready for Ubuntu. I usually do a swap partition and a "/" partition. But if Windows is already using 3 partitions, I will not be able to have a swap for linux, will I?
[19:15] <chinneseproduct> bekks, thanks for ya following
[19:15] <BluesKaj> varikonniemi, ok in that case install nvidia-current , then do sudo nvidia-xconfig , the reboot
[19:15] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[19:15] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork
[19:15] <actionParsnip> quatar: make the space an extended partition and you can add as many partitions as you need
[19:16] <bekks> quatar: Wrong.
[19:16] <quatar> "extended"? I only know about primary or logic..
[19:16] <jo__> guys any one here know python
[19:16] <jo__> ?
[19:16] <quatar> ok thx, I'll stop foreseeing the future and I'll wait gparted to prompt :P
[19:16] <actionParsnip> jo__: try in #python
[19:16] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268017/
[19:16] <jo__> thanks
[19:17] <BluesKaj> quatar, you can always make a swapfile instead of a swap partition if you need it
[19:17] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: pidgin is GUI
[19:17] <varikonniemi> BluesKaj, thanks for the tips, will try
[19:17] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: okay cool.
[19:17] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: nvidia-96 may drive it.
[19:17] <quatar> BluesKaj: to be honest I have no idea what swaps are for
[19:17] <actionParsnip> !info nvidia-96
[19:17] <BluesKaj> !sawp | quatar
[19:18] <Ririshi> eh how do I install tar.gz packages? Sorry for not knowing :$ I'm totally new to ubuntu :p
[19:18] <quatar> !swap
[19:18] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[19:18] <actionParsnip> quatar: its like swap space in Windows
[19:18] <varikonniemi> Ririshi, extract it
[19:18] <BluesKaj> !swap | quatar
[19:18] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: just exctract?
[19:18] <quatar> ahah thx (ok, it's kinda what i knew...)
[19:18] <varikonniemi> actionParsnip, so is it nvidia-96 or nvidia-current
[19:18] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: sounds rather easy ;p
[19:18] <varikonniemi> Ririshi, then follow instructions
[19:19] <varikonniemi> it can be just to run, or to vuild, or to install
[19:19] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: what instructions? I download it, then how should I open it first?
[19:19] <varikonniemi> see included readme or howto or similar
[19:19] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-cache policy apache2.2-common
[19:19] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: try either, you'll need to remove one before trying the other
[19:19] <varikonniemi> just right click and extract
[19:20] <B111> tu-de
[19:20] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: okay cool :D
[19:20] <varikonniemi> bp
[19:20] <varikonniemi> np
[19:21] <devslash> I'm running ubuntu server and have forwarded a few ports to it for different purposes. I have shore wall firewall installed. Are there any other extra precautions that I should take when port forwarding to prevent unauthorized access ?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> devslash  there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:22] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268030/
[19:25] <quatar> so, bekks, actionParsnip should I create first a "logic" swap partition, then a "logic" "/" partition?
[19:26] <devslash> MonkeyDust: thanks but no one in there is talking
[19:26] <actionParsnip> quatar: yes, 2 logical partitions on the extended partition
[19:27] <Ririshi1> actionParsnip: got pidgin now :D
[19:27] <Nosophorus> hi
[19:27] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I suspect your mirror tz.archive.ubuntu.com is not in sync with the other mirrors. Go into the repo settings and just use archive.ubuntu.com instead of your localized mirror.
[19:27] <quatar> actionParsnip: no, it's difficult for me... what's an extended partition?
[19:27] <actionParsnip> quatar: its a workaround implemented ages ago to get around the limitation of 4 primary partitions
[19:27] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: on pidgin now :D
[19:27] <quatar> actionParsnip: when I choose "Add partition" on the free space, I just have the choice "Logic"/"Primary"
[19:27] <actionParsnip> quatar: so you have 3 primary partitions and one extended parttion
[19:28] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: some love it, some hate it. For me its a 12 year habit :)
[19:28] <quatar> should the word "extended" be written somewhere?
[19:29] <chinneseproduct> bekks, i select from the main server
[19:29] <quatar> ok, K.I.S.S.: the situation: after /dev/sda3 I have 300GB of free space... I click "Add" then I select what? actionParsnip
[19:29] <Nosophorus> does someone know when will be the next MATE release?
[19:30] <phoenix211> hi, is there a tool to scale some pictures down for faster email sending?
[19:30] <actionParsnip> Nosophorus: mate isn't supported here
[19:30] <actionParsnip> phoenix211: imagemagick can do it
[19:30] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Yes.
[19:30] <bekks> chinneseproduct: After that, rerun sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:30] <quatar> phoenix211: for single pictures, just open them with gimp. For batch processing, "mogrify" (a command line tool) will help you
[19:31] <schultza> on ubuntu 12.04 i've caused a login loop or lightdm loop.. even after a reboot.. it's still happening. i dont want to reimage the machine, how do i get it to stop
[19:31] <Nosophorus> actionParsnip: why not?
[19:31] <actionParsnip> quatar: make a new extended partition on the freed space. Then make your usual Linux partitions as you desire
[19:31] <christop1> heya, I'm trying to set up a sip account in empathy, installed telepathy-rakia (and even -sofiasip) but there's nothing that sounds like SIP when I go to g-o-a, is there any other place to add a sip account or do I have to install something else?
[19:31] <phoenix211> I know mogrify, but looking for a GUI tool for unexperienced linux users
[19:31] <quatar> actionParsnip: "extended" is not among the choices!!
[19:31] <schultza> i did a ssh -X machine and export DISPLAY=:1 and stuff to the otherm achine.. and its locked in loopback on login
[19:31] <actionParsnip> quatar: make a logical partition then. I believe it manages it all
[19:32] <superpie> sony is getting idiotic
[19:32] <chinneseproduct> bekks,  its on progress
[19:32] <quatar> actionParsnip: ok. sorry :)
[19:33] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: I'll get used to it (:
[19:33] <superpie> ps3v1: linux, ps2 compatibility
[19:33] <superpie> ps3v2: no
[19:33] <simmel> I'm trying to generate apparmor profiles using aa-complain and aa-logprof but my profiles are almost completely empty, no rules are generated at all. http://pastie.org/private/uoulvjifwy8dkvpgiwjwsw
[19:33] <superpie> ps3v3: lol we put the insides into a new and improved cardboard box, guys!
[19:33] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268052/
[19:34] <quatar> actionParsnip: last question. After creating a logical swap partition, for the next partition it didn't ask me about the type of partition but just its size. I think it's ok, isn't it? It handled it the only possible way?
[19:35] <actionParsnip> quatar: as long as you can make the partition, you are golden
[19:36] <quatar> ok so i proceed. thanks
[19:36] <christop1> so, nobody tried telepathy-rakia yet? this is on 12.10 beta btw
[19:37] <thomasd> Hello I added a minecraft.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications
[19:37] <bekks> chinneseproduct: and no packages were upgraded?
[19:37] <thomasd> however it's not showing up under games what step am i missing?
[19:37] <Ryukoji> christop1, ill try it sec
[19:37] <chinneseproduct> let me chek bekks
[19:38] <chinneseproduct> bekks, 0 upgraded 0 installed 0 to remove
[19:40] <actionParsnip> christop1: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal support until release day
[19:40] <actionParsnip> thomasd: you need a launcher in /usr/share/applications to run it
[19:41] <bekks> chinneseproduct: And again: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[19:41] <MikeWorth> Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem with truecrypt that is giving me an inode number; I've tried grepping the results of  "ls -liR /", but get no results. Is it possible that there is an inode not referenced to a file? I'm still a bit foggy on inodes so I might have got this wrong...
[19:42] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268073/
[19:43] <christop1> actionParsnip: well, I'm not sure if it's 12.10 related, but will do, ty
[19:43] <thomasd> actionParsnip: that wasn't it the system should also check ./local/share/applications I actualy forgot to add a .desktop to the end of the file name but the file browser just delt with it anyway. thank you for your help though
[19:44] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268073/
[19:44] <actionParsnip> thomasd: without a .desktop file it won't appear in dash etc. They are simple to make
[19:44] <steveydevey> How can you "sudo -i" if you're using a private key instead of a password for authentication?
[19:46] <ziggyzero> **FIXED** All thanks for the suggestions with my MP3 issue. It was that the MP3 headers were corrupt. Running them through mp3val restored :-) I think was able to analyse them with mp3gain and apply the gain adjustments. Thanks.
[19:46] <AdrienG> I am here to lodge an urgent complaint of highest importance.
[19:46] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install -f
[19:46] <Lasivian> is there a way to upgrade the OS (IE, new version) from Apt?
[19:46] <thomasd> actionParsnip I made one butfor got to make it a .desktop
[19:46] <bekks> chinneseproduct: And after that: sudp dpkg --configure -a
[19:46] <Lasivian> not just "apt-get upgrade", but rather 11.04 to 12.04
[19:47] <bekks> chinneseproduct: That dpkg command will run for a few minutes and will not produce much output :)
[19:47] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268086/
[19:47] <AdrienG> I have recently became aware of a gravest sin, ubuntu on phones.
[19:47] <AdrienG> what are you going to do about this gross negligence?
[19:47] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: how do I turn off the entered the room and left the room stuff? it's very annoying. and whenever I type ', it goes on top of the character, instead of before it..
[19:48] <ardchoille> Ririshi: are you using xchat?
[19:48] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: in the main pidgin window, under the plugins dropdown you can enable the hide join/parts plugin
[19:48] <erasmus> chat is terrible
[19:48] <erasmus> xchat
[19:48] <actionParsnip> ardchoille: pidgin
[19:49] <erasmus> I am in 5 channels while connected to 1 networks. I have 0 o:lines, 0 ops, 0 halfops, and 1 voices with power over 0 individual users.
[19:49] <Ririshi> Iḿ using pidgin indeed
[19:49] <erasmus> I am within the channels #reddit-nootropics, #reddit-depression, #/r/ADHD, and #ubuntu on the freenode IRC Network.
[19:49] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: see above ^
[19:49] <chinneseproduct> bekks,  sudo dpkg --configure -a       doesnt gv output
[19:50] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I just told you that :)
[19:50] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: thanks, way better now ;p
[19:50] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks
[19:50] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Let it run, it will take a few minutes and will finish :)
[19:50] <guntbert> steveydevey: you still have a password set, use it
[19:50] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: np
[19:52] <chinneseproduct> bekks, ready
[19:52] <bekks> chinneseproduct: And no output?
[19:52] <guntbert> !upgrade | Lasivian
[19:53] <chinneseproduct> yes no output bekks
[19:55] <cosmicfires> bekks is the em2880 chipsets are good with linux?
[19:55] <fachex> i need help
[19:55] <bekks> cosmicfires: No. Throw them away as far as you can.
[19:55] <fachex> Ubuntu cannot connect to the internet
[19:56] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[19:56] <fachex> ubuntu 12.04
[19:56] <cosmicfires> how about DiB0700 ?
[19:56] <bekks> cosmicfires: Wonderful :)
[19:56] <cosmicfires> thanks :)
[19:56] <bekks> cosmicfires: you're welcome :)
[19:56] <Ririshi> I downloaded the official java from java.com and used tar to unzip it
[19:57] <actionParsnip> cosmicfires: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices
[19:57] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268106/
[19:57] <Ririshi> So now.. what? I try ./configure but it says "bash:no such file or directory"
[19:57] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:57] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: no need
[19:57] <elfranne> on a router you can use QOS  ... what can be used for a similar effect on a single machine ?
[19:57] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: I'll try that
[19:57] <fachex> any hint why Ubuntu 12.04 will not connect to the internet? it works fine on the network, and they weird thing is that I have a vmware machine running and the virtual server does connect to the internet.
[19:58] <nvictor> Ririshi, i like your handle :>
[19:58] <schultza> how do i stop a reaccuring login screen?
[19:58] <jiffe98> if I wanted to find out what configure options to build a package with so I can build a newer version the same way how might I do that?
[19:58] <Ririshi> nvictor: huh what?
[19:58] <schultza> s/reaccuring/re-occuring
[19:59] <quatar> Hi all. It's the first time I install an ubuntu-desktop on a laptop with ATI radeon graphics. When installing NVIDIA I always found that the nvidia-current drivers were "raccomended". With ATI, altough it recognizes that I need 3d acceleration, it just tell me that fglrx's are available, but doesn't put "reccomended" next to them. Should I acivate them? The standard or the updated post-release?
[19:59] <nvictor> Ririshi, ririshi is pretty, sounds japanese or something
[19:59] <Ririshi> nvictor: yes it is Japanese (:
[20:00] <Ririshi> So.. I can't choose to start my minecraft.jar with java 7?
[20:00] <Ririshi> I can choose OpenJDK 6, but not normal java 7
[20:00] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork
[20:01] <fachex> any hint why Ubuntu 12.04 will not connect to the internet? it works fine on the network, and they weird thing is that I have a vmware machine running and the virtual server does connect to the internet.
[20:02] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268118/
[20:03] <Ririshi> what should i do now? ):
[20:04] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install -f apache2-mpm-prefork
[20:04] <Ririshi> I can only choose Java 7 Web Start ): It's not in the app list..
[20:05] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268126/
[20:05] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268126/
[20:06] <varikonniemi> nvidia-96 needs xorg abi 10, why is it even in precise when it has abi11 ??
[20:07] <Ririshi> Why doesn't anyone help me ):
[20:07] <netmk> j c
[20:07] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: haven't I been helping you ?
[20:08] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yes, but...
[20:08] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: but what>
[20:08] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: I can't choose Java 7 to start my .jar files
[20:08] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: the java binary is a symlink to the oracle java
[20:08] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: what does that mean?
[20:08] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: run:  java -version
[20:09] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: already did..
[20:09] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: does it point to the oracle java?
[20:09] <Ririshi> actionParsnip:
[20:09] <Ririshi> java version "1.7.0_07"
[20:09] <Ririshi> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b10)
[20:09] <Ririshi> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode)
[20:09] <FloodBot1> Ririshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <Ririshi> sorry -.-
[20:10] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: and the ouput of:   file `which java`
[20:10] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: where do i find that?
[20:10] <pdayton> Does anyone know if or where I could get an root signed SSL certificate, so I do not need to install an intermediate bundle on my web server?
[20:10] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Then, I am out of clues. Maybe someone else has another idea, on why apache2-mpm-prefork keeps bailing out when trying to install it.
[20:10] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I'm sorry.
[20:11] <yxkvast> Can you use jabbler to talk with ppl on msn (i dont use msn, but liked to talk with some ppl on msn, but is thinking of using jabbler instead that i have in my mebu)
[20:11] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: its a terminal command....
[20:11] <blazinbass> Is ubuntu 2d the fastest setting I can set my GUI to?
[20:11] <blazinbass> in 12.04?
[20:11] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: /usr/bin/java: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[20:11] <blazinbass> I've noticed ugrading to 12.04 has really slowed my system down
[20:12] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: ok and the output of:   file /etc/alternatives/java
[20:12] <ardchoille> actionParsnip: bet that is symlinked to the oracle java
[20:12] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: /etc/alternatives/java: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java'
[20:12] <actionParsnip> ardchoille: me too
[20:12] <dr_willis> blazinbass:  lubuntu is lighter
[20:12] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: so there you go, its the oracle java, think about it
[20:13] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: eh...
[20:13] <blazinbass> dr_willis: how do i switch to that?
[20:13] <dr_willis> blazinbass:  install lubuntu-desktop package
[20:13] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: so when you run:  java something.jar    you are really running:  usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java something.jar
[20:13] <blazinbass> dr_willis: will i still have all my files?
[20:14] <developer> my hardon keeps me warm
[20:14] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: what does that mean?
[20:14] <adamsobotka> hi
[20:14] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks thanks for your concern
[20:14] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: its the oracle java. Isnt that glaringly obvious from the folder names?
[20:14] <developer> anyone know a good server for warez?
[20:14] <actionParsnip> developer: that is offtopic here
[20:14] <developer> can someone private message me?
[20:14] <blazinbass> dr_willis: that command doesn't work in my terminal
[20:14]  * STMelon smells a ban coming
[20:14] <adamsobotka> Please how i can make hashtag ?? (keyboard shortcut)
[20:14] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: so what does that do to my problem? >.<
[20:15] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: whenever you run the java command, you will be using the Oracle java
[20:15] <adamsobotka> Please how i can make hashtag ?? (keyboard shortcut)
[20:15] <dr_willis> blazinbass: what command
[20:15] <developer> is it possible to ddos etc.enterthegame.com ?
[20:15] <blazinbass> dr_willis: to install lubuntu
[20:15] <STMelon> blazinbass: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:15] <STMelon> ?
[20:15] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yes, but how do I make a shortcut to use that java for starting my minecraft?
[20:15] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: isn't that what you wanted?
[20:15] <blazinbass> dr_willis: i want to install it without losing my files
[20:15] <developer> sorry wrong room
[20:16] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: your backups will ensure data integrity
[20:16] <dr_willis> blazinbass:  yes.. thats how it works....
[20:16] <netmk> developer: are you retarded?
[20:16] <developer> can someone explain to me or know a good page that explains how i can install subversion on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:16] <blazinbass> thank you very much guys
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> netmk  ignore him
[20:16] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: if you copy one of the .desktop files for ~/.config/autostart    you can edit it to run what you need
[20:16] <dr_willis> blazinbass: yiu can have a dozed different desktops installed
[20:16] <blazinbass> what is the best epub reader i can download for ubuntu also?
[20:16] <jordanm> developer: the same way you install any other application
[20:17] <developer> /echo $server
[20:17] <guntbert> !best | blazinbass
[20:17] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: there is no single best application for anything, in any OS
[20:17] <netmk> blazinbass: Calibre
[20:17] <chinneseproduct> bekks, tomorrow we gonna proceed
[20:17] <blazinbass> netmk: thanks
[20:17] <blazinbass> you guys are very kind here
[20:17] <blazinbass> and helpful
[20:17] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: its as intelligent as asking what the best colour of the rainbow is, none are best, you will only get opinions
[20:17] <blazinbass> so lubuntu is a desktop....I have to HAVE 12.04 installed to use it?
[20:17] <dr_willis> calibre is a must have for ebook ussage. ;-)
[20:18] <developer> @jordanm , i wnat to set the folder /var/www to a repo. but i dont it to store all teh files visible in that directory that belont to the repo
[20:18] <blazinbass> actionParsnip: I agree with your analogy :)
[20:18] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: you can install lubuntu-desktop on all the supported releases
[20:18] <dr_willis> blazinbass: its one of several y
[20:18] <jordanm> developer: that's a completely different question than asking how to install svn. try #subversion
[20:18] <developer> jordanm : thnx
[20:19] <jordanm> developer: or look into mod_svn yourself
[20:19] <developer> k
[20:19] <blazinbass> actionParsnip: I'm not quite sure what a desktop is colloquially, it can't be installed as a standalone OS right?
[20:19] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: i don't understand it ):
[20:20] <dr_willis> blazinbass: its just another application....
[20:20] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: yes, you can switch desktop environment from Gnome to LXDE if you wish. The system is changable like that
[20:20] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: where do you have the minecraft jar file stored?
[20:20] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: in my downloads folder
[20:20] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: well actually that's where the launcher is
[20:21] <steveydevey> gunbert: I actually don't. I removed the passwords, to use public/private keys only.
[20:21] <blazinbass> Now, how do I activate it once it's installed?
[20:21] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: and what is the name of the file?
[20:21] <norwack> Hello. How can i disable critical temperature shutdown? I run Peppermint 3 which is based on Ubuntu, and i cant find thermal_zone in /proc/acpi anymore.
[20:21] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: Mineshafter-proxy.jar
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> norwack  not supported here
[20:21] <dr_willis> blazinbass: at the login screen
[20:21] <norwack> MonkeyDust: why?
[20:22] <blazinbass> dr_willis: thanks brother
[20:22] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: what is your username please?
[20:22] <dr_willis> norwack: its not ubuntu. and has its own support channels
[20:22] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: Andele
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> norwack  because not every distro is supported in this channel
[20:22] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: running:  whoami    will tell you. Is the A capitalized?
[20:23] <norwack> It's based on Ubuntu, so its dumb imo
[20:23] <guntbert> !tab | steveydevey
[20:23] <guntbert> steveydevey: how did you "remove" the password?
[20:23] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: andele
[20:25] <Elesa> Is 10 GB too little for a separate / partition?
[20:25] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: it gives me a java error when running minecraft from the terminal ):
[20:25] <steveydevey> guntbert: sorry about the name typo, and thanks for the tip about tab completion. I removed the password by doing: passwd -d username
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: sudo wget -O /usr/share/applications/minecraft.desktop https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/minecraft.desktop
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Elesa: thats what I use
[20:26] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: what does that do?
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Elesa: I use 3.1Gb for the system here
[20:26] <Elesa> But.. isn't software too much?
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: it'll make you a launcher for minecraft
[20:27] <Elesa> Like, too heavy?
[20:27] <actionParsnip> Elesa: this is a full desktop with all the codecs and so forth
[20:27] <Elesa> =o
[20:27] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: it uses the firefox icon but you can change that as you wish
[20:27] <Elesa> Ok, thanks!
[20:27] <guntbert> steveydevey: that sounds dangerous - every account on that same server could su to a passordless account (if I am not mistken)
[20:28] <hilo> Can someone assist or point me in the right direction for a virtualbox issue? I have tried all 4.x versions and all give the same issue. The vboxweb-service will not start and gives very little output to look for the cause. Any suggestions welcome.
[20:28] <guntbert> steveydevey: what was your reason for this?
[20:28] <actionParsnip> hilo: i'd ask in #vbox
[20:28] <steveydevey> guntbert, Hmm, that may be. It was my understanding that you can't su to an account without a password, and that it would just fail.
[20:28] <guntbert> hilo: ask in #vbox :)
[20:28] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: thanks man :D Now solve the java problem -.-
[20:29] <guntbert> steveydevey: let me try
[20:29] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: what java problem, you hava java
[20:29] <steveydevey> guntbert, the reason for this is to have private key authentication on our collection of servers instead of only passwords. and having a password in addition to the keys/passphrase seemed unsafe and redundant
[20:29] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: the minecraft itself gives a thread-8 problem or smth, are you a java pro?
[20:29] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: no, not at all
[20:32] <guntbert> steveydevey: I agree on using key based ssh but deleting the passwords seems counter productive - even if you seem to be right about preventing su
[20:32] <hilo> Thanks
[20:32] <netmk> Ririshi: paste the error you get on pastie.org and give us the link
[20:33] <guntbert> steveydevey: you can/should configure sshd to only accept key based logins
[20:33] <Ririshi> netmk: okay
[20:34] <Ririshi> netmk: http://pastie.org/5020775 here
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> steveydevey  using ubuntu server? if yes, there's a channel for it
[20:35] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: try:   mv /home/andele/.minecraft /home/andele/.minecraft_old
[20:35] <guntbert> MonkeyDust: I am now talking to him, don't chase him away :-)
[20:35] <netmk> Ririshi: try this:  sudo apt-get install liblwjgl-java
[20:36] <netmk> seems you have the wrong library for your arch
[20:36] <steveydevey> guntbert, I do plan on doing that, but I haven't transitioned all of our users to private keys yet. I'm just trying to get things all set up correctly first.
[20:36] <Ririshi> netmk: okay. I'm trying now
[20:36] <steveydevey> guntbert, why do you think it's counter productive though? (other than losing the ability to natively sudo, apparently)
[20:36] <vital101> I'm trying to use a simple provisioning bash script to install some dependencies on Ubuntu 12.04 via Vagrant.  After one dependency (postgres), Ubuntu says "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and just hangs.  Has anyone run in to this before?  I'm not sure if this is a Vagrant issue or an Ubuntu issue, so I thought I'd ask here first.
[20:37] <steveydevey> MonkeyDust, Oh, good to know! I didn't realize that. Thanks for the info.
[20:37] <Ririshi> trying to get along with ubuntu :p second day using it now XD
[20:37] <Ririshi> netmk: are you a java pro?
[20:38] <Ririshi> netmk: still error: http://pastie.org/5020798
[20:39] <guntbert> steveydevey: because by removing the password you don't gain anything (if ssh accepts only key based logins) - on the other hand: how many users will need to use sudo?
[20:39] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: did you try the folder rename?
[20:39] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yeah and i re-downloaded the whole minecraft stuff
[20:42] <Ririshi> ):
[20:42] <Ririshi> maybe because I only have the 64 bit version of java?
[20:43] <actionParsnip> Ririshi:tried asking in the minecraft channel
[20:43] <steveydevey> guntbert, there definitely won't be many people sudo'ing. I guess I'll leave passwords enabled, but have sshd only accept key based logins. Thanks for the help.
[20:43] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yeah, but they don't help me since it's pirated ):
[20:43] <bekks> steveydevey: Almost everyone on Ubuntu uses sudo :)
[20:43] <netmk> seems minecraft's included 32bit libraries in their 64bit release, which wouldn't work..
[20:43] <guntbert> steveydevey: no problem :) have fun
[20:44] <netmk> Ririshi: you can change those libraries to 64bit version manually, if you follow this:  http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
[20:44] <steveydevey> bekks, I agree. but not many people will be logging into these boxes :) (dns servers)
[20:44] <Ririshi> netmk: okay
[20:44] <bekks> steveydevey: Thats a very good reason for continuing using sudo :)
[20:45] <xibalba> how do i mount an NFS volume? I thoguht `mount host:/path /local/path` did it ?
[20:45] <xibalba> lethalnetworks:~$ sudo mount 192.168.1.70:/media/testVol1 /mnt/nfs
[20:45] <xibalba> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.1.70:/media/testVol1
[20:45] <steveydevey> bekks, I never wanted to stop using it. I just wanted to be able to authenticate with it using ssh keys instead of a password
[20:46] <bekks> steveydevey: Thats not possible.
[20:46] <actionParsnip> xibalba: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[20:46] <schultza> im having a repeating login screen on one user.. how do i fix it.. where is the configuration file for ubuntu/x/whatever for that user?
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: does it happen with other users?
[20:47] <schultza> no
[20:47] <steveydevey> bekks, it looks like it is possible, but maybe not with the default configuration: http://www.drhevans.com/blog/posts/195-using-ssh-agent-for-sudo-authentication/
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: check ~/.xsession-errors for that user
[20:47] <schultza> guest is the only other user on that computer.. adn it works fine
[20:47] <nronksr> Hello.  Where is the log file stored for updated packages via apt-get update?  I'm running LTS 10.04, updated packages and my deluged torrent server has stopped receiving incoming transmissions.  The only thing that was changed was updated packages.
[20:47] <steveydevey> bekks, also: http://superuser.com/questions/164078/how-to-make-shared-keys-ssh-authorized-keys-and-sudo-work-together
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: try with non-guest account
[20:47] <k1l> schultza: take alook into the .xsession-errors from that user.
[20:47] <xibalba> apparently i needed the nfs-common package...how dumb.
[20:47] <xibalba> NFS should be builtin
[20:47] <schultza> sherm and guest are the only two accounts on the computer
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: so create one
[20:48] <bekks> steveydevey: That does NOT make sudo magically authenticate with a ssh key.
[20:48] <andril> my 12.04 setup sees my desktop as laptop - any help?
[20:48] <schultza> EDID errors
[20:48] <bekks> steveydevey: INSTEAD, it even DISABLES the only barrier left: the password authentication.
[20:48] <k1l> schultza: maybe its just a user-setting, or the xauthority errors after fiddling with sudo
[20:48] <schultza> failed to load exter entity /home/sherm/.compiz/session/blah
[20:48] <jrib> schultza: use a pastebin to post full files, instead of just giving excerpts in the channel
[20:49] <schultza> im not on that local computer.. it's going to be more work than a single copy paste
[20:49] <k1l> schultza: take the whole file into a pastebin. so we can decide which line is important
[20:50] <jrib> schultza: is there a reason you can't use pastebinit?
[20:50] <steveydevey> bekks, Hmm. So are you saying anyone who can log in would then be able to sudo without any restriction?
[20:50] <schultza> i have to get to the file through a ssh client... it have to more than 5 pages ot c opying and pasting to pastebin
[20:50] <schultza> its not going to be simple
[20:50] <jrib> schultza: use pastebinit
[20:50] <jrib> !pastebinit | schultza
[20:50] <schultza> ok... see you in t5 mins
[20:51] <gordonjcp> steveydevey: you have to be a bit careful with sudo and ssh keys
[20:51] <schultza> cause it iwll take that long to c opy/paste it
[20:51] <jrib> schultza: you just run one command, it should take you 2 seconds after installing it
[20:51] <bekks> steveydevey: In that example - the user dimas - is the only barrier. After hacking into that user account, there is no password barrier anymore for anyone to just use sudo and gain full root access. You dont want that.
[20:51] <Ririshi> netmk: THANK YOU!
[20:51] <k1l> schultza: stop
[20:51] <Ririshi> netmk: this fixed it :D
[20:51] <schultza> stop what?
[20:52] <schultza>  i thoughty you qwanted a pastebin.. which i have to copy and paste to it
[20:52] <k1l> schultza: use pastebinit like jrib told you. that is command that will do all the work
[20:52] <steveydevey> bekks, Gotcha. I'll definitely be keeping the passwords then. :)
[20:52] <k1l> so you only need to show us the url
[20:52] <bekks> steveydevey: :)
[20:52] <schultza> no such command
[20:52] <jrib> schultza: install it
[20:52] <xibalba> this is just hanging, lethalnetworks:~$ sudo mount 192.168.1.70:/media/testVol1 /mnt/nfs
[20:52] <steveydevey> bekks, I appreciate the info, for sure
[20:53] <bekks> steveydevey: Of course, you can enable pubkey authentication for user dimas and disable the ssh password login for that user.
[20:53] <bekks> steveydevey: In that case, you still will have to enter the _password_ when using sudo as user dimas.
[20:53] <k1l> schultza: you really need to read the bots msgs :/
[20:53] <shockingbehavur_> !ubottu
[20:53] <k1l> !patebinit > schultza
[20:54] <k1l> !pastebinit > schultza
[20:54] <xibalba> any ideas why this hangs? lethalnetworks:~$ sudo mount 192.168.1.70:/media/testVol1 /mnt/nfs
[20:54] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268211/
[20:54] <tripelb> Ubuntu torrent failed Twice using hotspots from phone. shouldn't torrent protocol handle flakey
[20:54] <schultza> sorry.. didnt know there was a command line program for that
[20:55] <xibalba> nm got it
[20:55] <steveydevey> bekks: I was really hoping to find an easy way to have it use the private key to authenticate for sudo, but I'll take the extra password for it any day, compared to the insecurity!
[20:55] <jiffe98> if I wanted to find out what configure options to build a package with so I can build a newer version the same way how might I do that?
[20:55] <jrib> schultza: ls -ld /home/sherm
[20:55] <ThinkT510> tripelb: you are torrenting from a phone? isn't that rather expensive?
[20:56] <k1l> jrib: i think he broken the rights from his home with sudo?
[20:56] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268216
[20:56] <jrib> k1l: "X session started for root at Mon Oct" seems strange... is that normal?
[20:56] <schultza> no.. what i was doing was trying to learn and set up a remote x session through ssh.. apparently it failed
[20:57] <schultza> and screwed up local gui login
[20:57] <jrib> schultza: so how did you try?
[20:57] <schultza> ssh -X [ip] and then a startx -- :1 on the ssh window
[20:58] <schultza> and it kept giving me no protocols error
[20:58] <k1l> schultza: dont use startx on ubuntu
[20:58] <jrib> schultza: why does this file keep mentioning root?
[20:58] <k1l> schultza: use the loginmnager
[20:58] <schultza> lightdm ?
[20:58] <k1l> yep
[20:58] <schultza> ok... how do i fix this without reinstalling?
[20:59] <k1l> jrib: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/root/.compiz/session/10f8e4796164511047134972338984852500000059070039"  etc. there was a starting as root going on
[20:59] <jrib> schultza: did you use sudo or something?
[21:00] <schultza> /root/.compiz no such file or directory
[21:00] <schultza> not with startx
[21:00] <schultza> and i logged in with sherm
[21:00] <jrib> schultza: well something is pretty broken with your setup then if it keeps trying to start everything as root
[21:01] <schultza> with all i did was start ssh sherm@ip... and startx -- :1 ... how did that force root?
[21:01] <schultza> oh... unless startx wont run as user.. and i did a sudo startx
[21:02]  * schultza slaps self silly.
[21:02] <cb_>  _cb
[21:03] <Ririshi> im off for today
[21:03] <Ririshi> cya later :D
[21:03] <winstonw> Hi, is there a way to use an ubuntu iso and on a linux itself create a bootable jumpdrive that is fat32-filesystem backed -- I mean, by NOT using dd, but using a mountable (writable) filesystem
[21:04] <schultza> youd have to mount the iso file and copy the files over to a already formated fat32 partition
[21:04] <varikonniemi> winstonw, what are you trying to do. i cannot understand what you ask
[21:04] <dummy> hi, i have a problem with netbeans. I installed version 7.0.1 and now i want to add the C/C++ module but i can't cause there is nothing listed under (Tools/plugins/available plugins). Does anyone know how to update netbeans for c/c++ ? Thanks
[21:05] <schultza> #login_loop: do i still need to completely reinstall ubuntu or is there a fix?
[21:05] <jrib> schultza: have you rebooted since this started happening?
[21:07] <varikonniemi> winstonw, i think the easiest way to get what you want is to install ubuntu to the usb drive. I dont think it supports fat as root filesystem though
[21:07] <varikonniemi> you can make one partition ext and the rest fat though
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> winstonw  if i understand correctly, yes, you can create an ntfs space inside your /home
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> or fat32, sorry
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> but not bootable, i was too fast
[21:08] <schultza> jrib, yes rebooted several times.. i even did a complete purge and reinstall of ubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <jrib> schultza: so does it happen with a non-guest user?
[21:09] <k1l> schultza: you could try to take a look at everything still belongs to your user in his home directory
[21:09] <schultza> the only non-guest user i have on that system is stuck in the relogin sequence
[21:09] <jrib> schultza: create one
[21:09] <schultza> .xauthority and some other files are root/root
[21:10] <k1l> schultza: bingo
[21:10] <schultza> rm it and replace the xauthroirty-l as the regular?
[21:10] <k1l> the xauthority needs to belong to your user
[21:10] <winstonw> varikonniemi: no i mean making it boot from ubuntu jumpdrive and get the kernel from /mnt/jumpdrive/boot/kernel-name and then use the usual squashfs in whatever directory on the jumpdrive
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> winstonw  i had never heard of a jumpdrive, but there's this (learned something new myself) http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/create-usb-ubuntu-linux-boot-jump-drive/
[21:13] <jrib> brilliant
[21:14] <Krenair> Just got this from ZNC... <*ctcpflood> Limit reached by [negin!~azin@69.195.207.232], blocking all CTCP
[21:14] <gr33n7007h> How to detect what device my webcam is in /dev/ ?
[21:14] <Dr_willis> Krenair,  znc is so handy.
[21:14] <jrib> my znc didn't do that :(
[21:14] <knightrage> hi all. i have a cd-rom (a playstation game, to be exact) and im getting "Input/output error" when trying to use dd or cat to create an iso. any other ways to do this? sudo doesnt help. the cd mounts fine.
[21:14] <ziggyzero> Hi. I have a question on mp3gain.
[21:15] <jrib> ziggyzero: just ask
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: it will probably fail at some point where the disk is protected
[21:15] <Dr_willis> knightrage,  playstation cd's have special protection. You may need a special app to copy/clone it. It may depend on the  specific game also.
[21:15] <Krenair> jrib, you might not have got those ctcps, or maybe you need a module enabled?
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: you could try ddrescue
[21:15] <zykotick9> knightrage: fyi you can't create an ISO from a playstation game, but you can create an image (bin/cue or bin/toc type thing)
[21:15] <jrib> Krenair: I got them; I probably didn't enable the module
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: PSX, PS2?
[21:15] <ziggyzero> Is there anyway of keeping a log of any errors so that I can investigate which files failed analysis
[21:15] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: yes
[21:15] <ziggyzero> with mp3gain
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: what zykotick9 said ;-)
[21:16] <jrib> ziggyzero: is that a console application?
[21:16] <gr33n7007h> How to detect what device my webcam is in /dev/ ?
[21:16] <ziggyzero> Yes
[21:16] <pasche> hello
[21:16] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: i've never run into a copy protection issue with playstation games, and i have quite a few.
[21:16] <gordonjcp> gr33n7007h: *probably* /dev/video0
[21:16] <gordonjcp> gr33n7007h: see what lsusb has to say for itself
[21:16] <gr33n7007h> gordonjcp, one sec let me check
[21:16] <ziggyzero> jrib: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/mp3gain.1.html
[21:16] <knightrage> oh, okay. i'll look into bin/cue things.
[21:17] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  last i tried tghem was a few years back and recall having to use special apps.  of course I may be thinking of BURNING them. :)
[21:17] <ziggyzero> jrib: looking at the manual there isn't. But I was wondering if there was a cli trick?
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> wow
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> thats a lot of klines
[21:17] <jrib> ziggyzero: you can redirect stdout with "> file" and stderr with "2> file"
[21:17] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: burning them is something i've never done ;)  so i wouldn't know about that.
[21:17] <Krenair> Yeah, CTCP-flooder
[21:17] <knightrage> and it was a ps1 game
[21:17] <knightrage> fyi
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> is it an auto kline?
[21:18] <zykotick9> knightrage: i'm talking about ps1 as well ;)
[21:18] <ox1de> hi.. i have a simple query... how do I install infinity visualizer on audacious? i downloaded the file but cant figure out how to install and make it function
[21:18] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  picked up a PS1 for $10 the other day. ;)   for the kids..  but i imagine this is all not ubuntu support related. ;P
[21:18] <gordonjcp> GeorgeTorwell: yup
[21:19] <schultza> you guys are good.. thank you... ill have to find what other files are owned by root in that directory now.. i have additional failures with Xorg now
[21:19] <gordonjcp> http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/k-line.jpg
[21:19] <gordonjcp> ^ your shipment of K-line has arrived
[21:19] <ziggyzero> jrib: Thanks I shall give 2> a go. Thank you
[21:19] <jrib> schultza: should be safe to just chown your HOME recursively, unless you've setup some special permissions
[21:20] <schultza> chown sherm:sherm /home/sherm ? or is there a recursive i need to do?
[21:20] <dummy> hi, i have a problem with netbeans. I installed version 7.0.1 and now i want to add the C/C++ module but i can't cause there is nothing listed under (Tools/plugins/available plugins). Does anyone know how to update netbeans for c/c++ ? Thanks.
[21:20] <jrib> schultza: chown -R sherm: ~sherm
[21:20] <schultza> .swt ?
[21:20] <jrib> schultza: :x
[21:21] <schultza> forgot the sudo on that cmd
[21:21] <knightrage> perfect. looks like this should work. cheers all.
[21:21]  * knightrage waves
[21:21] <ox1de> d(o_0)b
[21:21] <schultza> and what is swt?
[21:21] <jost> dummy, you can download current versions of netbeans on their site with a linux installer
[21:22] <jrib> schultza: I don't know, you said it
[21:22] <chris_99> how do i upgrade to the latest beta release of ubuntu
[21:22] <jost> dummy, its one big .sh file, and I think you only need to execute it
[21:23] <pasche> I have a problem installing the latest java plugin in my firefox browser. I already placed a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but the plugin is never loaded. Does somebody have an idea?
[21:24] <zykotick9> chris_99: reask in #ubuntu+1
[21:26] <ox1de> can anybody help me with my query?
[21:26] <jrib> !helpme | ox1de
[21:28] <ox1de> hi.. i have a simple query... how do I install infinity visualizer on audacious? i downloaded the file but cant figure out how to install and make it function
[21:28] <malkauns> in 12.04 is there any way to change the size of the top panel?
[21:30] <zykotick9> !info myunity | malkauns "I" have no idea, but i'd try this.
[21:30] <malkauns> thx but i think that only allows you to change the size of the unity launcher
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  look in file, preferences, plugins, effect
[21:35] <ox1de> monkey: then what?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  select the one you want
[21:36] <Ramtron> Could someone help me install an ISO through wine?
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  it may be in Visualization
[21:37] <ox1de> monkey: itz not listed in visualization yet
[21:37] <zykotick9> Ramtron: see "/msg ubottu iso" for details on mounting an ISO from CLI.  Then "wine /path/to/iso/PROGRAM.exe" should work.
[21:37] <sayo> y
[21:37] <ox1de> i need to install it first i think
[21:37] <ox1de> infinity i mean
[21:37] <Ramtron> I already mounted it
[21:38] <sayo> ok you have a windows linux dualboot machine, how do you repair windows iwthout fucking up linux
[21:38] <sayo> like say windows got corrupted
[21:38] <sayo> anyone?
[21:38] <Ramtron> It opens in only readable format
[21:38] <Ramtron> Is that okay? There is no exe inside as far as I can see.
[21:38] <varikonniemi> sayo, it is not possible
[21:38] <zykotick9> Ramtron: ISOs are read only
[21:38] <Ramtron> Unaware, I'll try your command, thanks
[21:38] <varikonniemi> you must run grub-update
[21:38] <zykotick9> Ramtron: no EXE means nothing to run?  what is this?
[21:38] <varikonniemi> maybe grub-install?
[21:39] <sayo> varikonniemi: i am thiking the easiest way is to make the windows-linux dualboot, then make a disk image
[21:39] <Ramtron> I open the ISO and I see nothing inside. but it may be cause it's read only
[21:39] <sayo> i am just saying theoretically if you had a windows linux dualboot
[21:39] <sayo> and needed it reparied due to windows being full of fuck
[21:39] <varikonniemi> just install win as normal, then run those commands in live cd and thats it
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> sayo  mind your language please, it's really disturbing
[21:40] <sayo> :|
[21:40] <sayo> but does anyone have a better suggestion
[21:40] <ethhunt> i know right.
[21:40] <ethhunt> smh.
[21:40] <sayo> than disk images for restoration
[21:40] <sayo> i really wish windows would start using grub
[21:41] <varikonniemi> i have dualboot also, but primary windows
[21:41] <varikonniemi> so i must first select ubuntu, then the kernel, then it boots :|
[21:41] <sayo> im just talking in theory
[21:42] <Seednode> sayo: And I wish Windows would use a package manager; unfortunately, neither will happen for a while.
[21:42] <Seednode> OR ever.
[21:42] <schultza> thank you guys
[21:42] <sayo> Seednode: do you have any better administrative options
[21:42] <sayo> for managing linux-windows dualboot systems
[21:42] <Seednode> Hm...
[21:42] <sayo> besides disk imaging
[21:42] <Seednode> I just use separate HDDs for each OS.
[21:42] <sayo> because every time windows gets corrupted
[21:42] <Seednode> But I realize that doesn't work for everyone.
[21:42] <sayo> Seednode: true, but what about laptops now
[21:43] <Seednode> My laptop has a Windows SSD and a Linux HDD
[21:43] <Seednode> 120GB each.
[21:43] <sayo> looole
[21:43] <sayo> which one gets the sdd?
[21:43] <Seednode> Windows, atm.
[21:43] <varikonniemi> sayo, what is wrong with the method i said
[21:43] <Seednode> Mainly because it came with that, and I refuse to pirate.
[21:43] <sayo> varikonniemi: we are talking about backup solutions
[21:43] <sayo> and recovery stuff
[21:43] <sayo> im not sure i understand your suggestion
[21:43] <Seednode> Just reinstall every time.
[21:43] <kentos> does anyone know where to contact Ubuntu devs?
[21:43] <Seednode> It's what I do./
[21:44] <varikonniemi> if you take the time to install windows 30min then why not rewrite grub in 5 min?
[21:44] <Seednode> If something goes wrong, it's probably time to reinstall anyways
[21:44] <Seednode> Same goes for my Linux installs; I just back up important .conf files in Dropbox.
[21:44] <Seednode> 30 mins tops to completely restore to my previous setup.
[21:44] <sayo> also guys, how do you manually partition for ubuntu
[21:44] <kentos> where are Ubuntu bugs reported?
[21:44] <sayo> the installer always makes the swap partition too small
[21:44] <varikonniemi> i don't :D
[21:44] <Seednode> Well, you'll need /home, /swap, and /boot
[21:45] <sayo> yes
[21:45] <sayo> i want those in seperate partitions
[21:45] <Seednode> Probably 10GB, 2GB, and 100MB, respectively.
[21:45] <sayo> but the installer never lets me
[21:45] <Seednode> Just split into three partitions.
[21:45] <Seednode> Make one bootable.
[21:45] <Seednode> Use cfdisk
[21:45] <Seednode> Not the normal method.
[21:45] <FloodBot1> Seednode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:45] <sayo> : |
[21:45] <sayo> so which one should i make bootable Seednode
[21:45] <sayo> root?
[21:45] <zykotick9> !bug | kentos
[21:45] <Seednode> Well, I'd guess /boot :P
[21:46] <kentos> thanks zykotick9, ubottu
[21:46] <kentos> !bug
[21:46] <Seednode> I manually partition Arch, it should work for Ubuntu as well
[21:47] <zykotick9> kentos: see "/msg ubottu ubottu" for details on what ubottu is
[21:48] <overclucker> Seednode: when would you ever neet the boot flag?
[21:50] <overclucker> *need
[21:51] <Seednode> overclucker: Well, you need it to install Arch. No clue about other OSes.
[21:51] <Seednode> Or, I was told to do so when first installing, and have since.
[21:51] <Seednode> Might not actually be required; Hm...
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  keep it in the channel, please
[21:53] <varikonniemi> it is exciting to run 12.04 on a celeron with 512ram :D
[21:53] <ox1de> Ok...
[21:53] <TJ-> Seednode: the 'active' aka bootable flag on an MSDOS partition was used in the DOS days to indicate to the boot-strap loader which partition contained the secondary boot-loader.
[21:53] <overclucker> Seednode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_flag
[21:54] <varikonniemi> quite surprisingly the hdd is the bottleneck in performance in many places on that setup
[21:55] <SudoKing> i seem to be getting a blank, black screen if i idle for about a minute but i dont see any option to turn screensavers off (GNOME 3)
[21:55] <SudoKing> anyone know a workaround to turn the black screensaver off?
[21:55] <varikonniemi> the setting is somewhere there
[21:56] <tripelb> Ubuntu torrent failed Twice using hotspots from phone. shouldn't torrent protocol handle flakey
[21:56] <wizbit> apt-get leave-channel
[21:56] <yekoms> how do i change two finger scrolling, to one finger? ubuntu 12.04 using openbox as desktop.
[21:56] <Seednode> TJ-, overclucker, I'm referring to the "Make bootable" option in cfdisk. As I said, I don't know that it's necessary, but the Arch install guide told me to do it.
[21:56] <tripelb> lost Answer.. fast channel
[21:56] <SudoKing> in system settings there is no "Screen" as there ought to be
[21:57] <tripelb> Ubuntu torrent failed Twice using hotspots from phone. shouldn't torrent protocol handle flakey
[21:57] <andrey_> hi
[21:58] <TJ-> Seednode: You mean the "Bootable" toggle option on the menu along bottom of the viewport?
[21:58] <Maksim> Hi
[21:58] <Seednode> Yes, TJ-
[21:58] <Seednode> So, it's just an MS-DOS archaic toggle?
[21:59] <TJ-> Seednode: Yes, that's what I was describing earlier
[21:59] <Seednode> Alright, I guess the guide I was using was misinformed.
[21:59] <Seednode> Thanks for letting me know; it'll save me 2 seconds or so in the future.
[22:00] <TJ-> Seednode: Yes... MSDOS/Windows 3.1 would store a secondary boot loader in the boot sector of that partition, which would in turn be able to read the "command.com" executable from the root directory of the file-system
[22:00] <Maksim> I installed Ubuntu from Windows installer a month ago and put 10gb on linux partition.. Now I realized I like Ubuntu and want to add more disk space to Linux partition from Windows.. any easy way to do this?
[22:01] <OmegaHarvest> stupid q. how do you link someones name in a reply?
[22:02] <overclucker> Omeg<tab>
[22:02] <OmegaHarvest> thanks
[22:02] <ziggyzero> the mp3header was damaged. I run it through mp3val to repair
[22:03] <OmegaHarvest> SudoKing: System Settings > Brightness and Lock. It's in there
[22:05] <OmegaHarvest> Maksim: Gparted might be a tool to do what you're after, but I'm not sure how it'll work with your installation. You may be better off uninstalling Ubuntu using the windows uninstaller and then performing a dual boot after.
[22:07] <rpaddock> Any reason alt+drag won't work in 12.04? I have compiz setup to allow it under Move Window and have disabled context menus showing up on alt key
[22:08] <TJ-> Maksim: Windows can usually shrink its own partition from Disk Management. Once that is done, boot from an Ubuntu liveCD, and use gparted to move the start of the Ubuntu partition so that the size of the Ubuntu allocation increases as it takes up the free space.
[22:09] <unixbeard> Hey happy campers!  I'm interested in finding out why my latest ubuntu 12.04 server install won't define a default gateway for eth1 based on the eth1 setting in /etc/network/interfaces?  I'm also trying to not use ufw and instead use my trusted script of ages that I call in /root/system/iptables.sh from /etc/rc.local.  So far I have to reboot, route add default gw <ip> eth1, then /root/system/iptables.sh, for my router to work.
[22:09] <unixbeard> What am I doing wrong?! :D
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> unixbeard  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:09] <vivid> TJ-, hes using wubi, theres no ubuntu partition to modify...
[22:09] <unixbeard> Thanks MonkeyDust!
[22:10] <TJ-> vivid: Oh! OK, thanks. Easier then ever then!
[22:10] <Maksim> TJ- I'm using WUBI, does that make like a 'virtual' partition or something, rather than a real one?
[22:10] <Maksim> I don't know much about computers behind the scenes
[22:10] <vivid> Maksim, it makes a "virtual drive" which is a file on the windows partition
[22:10] <TJ-> Maksim: no, in your case there's simply a file in the Windows NTFS file system
[22:10] <vivid> its slow in comparison to an actual drive
[22:11] <Maksim> TJ- and vivid : then I should probably uninstall this and reinstall, huh?
[22:11] <Maksim> using a livecD?
[22:11] <OmegaHarvest> Maksim: I think your best bet is to dual boot after removing the wubi installation.
[22:11] <vivid> he may know a way to resize it
[22:11] <Maksim> the thing is, i'd rather not having a slower worse version
[22:11] <Maksim> I like ubuntu
[22:12] <vivid> then you would need to make room to really install to the drive
[22:12] <vivid> which can be dangerous if you dont know what youre doing.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> Maksim  wubi is a pseudo-installation inside windows
[22:12] <OmegaHarvest> Maksim: yeah. the lived will detect the windows install and configure GRUB accordingly. its very user friendly
[22:12] <TJ-> Maksim: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[22:12] <overclucker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[22:12] <overclucker> TJ-: lol
[22:12]  * TJ- laughs! 
[22:12] <TJ-> SNAP!
[22:12] <Maksim> this shit is too complicated
[22:13] <knob> Hello... I would like to have "startx" automatically when I boot up the OS.  Any link to where I could find out how to do this?
[22:13] <TJ-> You think *that* is complicated? Boy!
[22:13] <overclucker> Maksim: only the manual method id complicated
[22:13] <vivid> Maksim, yea well, catering to windows users is going to seem that way.  imagine if you just wanted to use linux, you wouldnt have the issue
[22:13] <TJ-> knob: Install any of the desktop environments and start normally, and X will start
[22:14] <knob> Yes... X starts super at the moment with startx
[22:14] <Maksim> sorry but you guys just gave me several directions (they may have converged to the same thing), can you point me to the ultimate one? Do I just follow the instructions in that link?
[22:14] <static09> Linux always works well until you start to look into it :P
[22:14] <knob> What I'd like is to have it start when I boot-up... without me having to login, then type  startx
[22:15] <overclucker> knob: sounds like you need a display manager
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> knob  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what going wrong
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> what is going wrong*
[22:16] <knob> Ok... if I boot-up the machine, she goes into the   "login:  " prompt.    So I log in, all good.  Then I'm at the prompt
[22:16] <knob> I type   startx   , and x starts without a problem.
[22:16] <knob> I would like to have x start automatically when I boot-up the computer
[22:16] <overclucker> knob: install gdm3 kdm lightdm or something
[22:16] <static09> best question at this point is to know which distro you're using?
[22:16] <knob> backtrack
[22:16] <static09> aha
[22:16] <static09> there's the rub
[22:16] <Maksim> TJ-: The link you put is to resize the wubi installation.. should I just uninstall and do real install with real partition isntead? Vivid said virtual drive is slower
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> knob  not supported here
[22:17] <grandal_prime>  ok i have an ubuntu1204 system with one drive using lvm.  How can i expand that onto a second drive if i cant expand a mounted partition?
[22:17] <static09> exactly why i asked which distro it was
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> knob  type /join #backtrack-linux
[22:17] <static09> if you can't deal with terminal than please do not just backtrack :)
[22:17] <knob> Thanks guys. I'm headed over there.
[22:17] <TJ-> Maksim: If you want to keep on with Ubuntu then that would be best.
[22:17] <Maksim> TJ-: any way to save all my stuff so that it'll have my files and programs?
[22:17] <knob> Terminal is fine with me... yet would like to startx automatically.     Something akin to what I have in my FreeBSD machines
[22:17] <Maksim> when I reinstall..?
[22:17] <knob> Yet I'll ask over there. =)  thanks
[22:18] <Maksim> you know what.. it's cool..i'll just throw them on a usb
[22:19] <overclucker> grandal_prime: boot into recovery mode and do lvm pvcreate on the partition you want to add, the nadd it to the volume group with lvm vgcreate
[22:19] <TJ-> Maksim: It is possible to simply copy the contents of the wubi virtual drive into a hard-drive partition, and set-up the boot-loader from there, but all in all, that would be too complicated for you I think :)
[22:19] <grandal_prime> ok so in recovery mode the required partition is not mounted..got it thanks
[22:21] <ClientAlive> If I download the oracle jdk (so I can code/ develop java) will I have to deal with upbading the system on what java version I'm using?
[22:21] <Maksim> TJ-: haha, ok, thanks :0
[22:21] <Maksim> :) *
[22:21] <jsjgruber-xq> join ##lernid
[22:21] <ClientAlive> I'm running 12.04 server with gnome
[22:23] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You can install the openjdk-7-jdk and/or openjdk-6-jdk
[22:23] <overclucker> ClientAlive: this is probably the cleanest way of installing oracle java if you absolutely need it over open jdk: https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6
[22:23] <Maksim> what's a good place to learn about partitions and stuff
[22:24] <ClientAlive> TJ-: ok. so what does the jdk give me? Simply the ability to compile and run java?
[22:24] <TJ-> Maksim: Inside a virtual machine! Not on a real disk
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> !partition > Maksim
[22:24] <Maksim> okie thanks
[22:25] <TJ-> ClientAlive: the JDK contains all the development tools (as opposed to the JREs)
[22:25] <ClientAlive> TJ-: ok. Thx man.
[22:29] <OFFLINE> botnet here
[22:29] <OFFLINE> o.o
[22:34] <eilyx> how do i secure my system with apparmor
[22:35] <Wug> it wasnt really a botnet
[22:35] <Wug> probably just one or two idiots
[22:36] <Wug> eilyx: I'd kind of like to know as well.
[22:36] <Wug> Also, if anyone can shed some light on how to make chromium work on guest sessions that would be great.
[22:37] <Wug> I'm led to believe that apparmor blocks the methods it uses to control its sandbox on accounts with guest privileves
[22:37] <lduros> hello, how can I drop to a shell from ubuntu 12.04? For some reason after upgrading unity is busted. I can't even start a terminal... so I'd like to see what's going on from the shell
[22:37] <Wug> I did cursory research on how to get apparmor to allow it but was unable to find much on the internet and unable to get it working via experimentation
[22:37] <Wug> lduros: single user mode?
[22:38] <lduros> Wug: guess so. from either lightdm or inside unity
[22:38] <static09> quick guide on apparmor located here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[22:38] <lduros> Wug: Right now I'm in the lightdm loginn screen
[22:38] <lduros> not sure if that's single user
[22:38] <lduros> might not be
[22:38] <Wug> reboot, stop in grub, edit boot command, add "single" to the boot arguments
[22:38] <eilyx>  static09 thanks
[22:38] <lduros> Wug: what is it going to do?
[22:38] <Wug> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[22:39] <lduros> Wug: There's no ctrl + F1 or the like to get back to the shell?
[22:39] <Wug> it doesn't boot any further than a root prompt
[22:39] <Wug> youll be able to install and uninstall software, etc
[22:39] <Wug> very little will be running so there is very little chance for interference
[22:39] <lduros> hmm ok, for some reason I thought there would be a way with a keybinding. Alright, I'll try, thanks Wug
[22:40] <ClientAlive> I'm already using the oracle jre. do I have to completerly remove that to install the jdk without any problems?
[22:41] <TJ-> lduros: The log-file "/var/log/kern.log" contains reports from apparmor when things are DENIED, which may help you confirm things
[22:41] <overclucker> ClientAlive: it might be a good idea to remove it, but openjdk should update alternatives when installed
[22:42] <bekks> ClientAlive: That would be the preferred approach, since the JDK provides the JRE, too.
[22:42] <k1gwb> I can put this in a beta channel if more appropriate if someone directs me to it, but my question is as follows. On Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2, I can play MP3s located ON my computer, and I can play WAVs, AVIs, MP4s, etc located on a network share on a Windows computer. However, I can NOT play MP3s located on the network share.
[22:42] <roasted> hello!
[22:42] <k1gwb> I don't believe it's a permissions issue, as I can copy the MP3s on the network share onto my local computer and play them fine from there.
[22:43] <roasted> Question - what type of consequences might I be looking at if I stop a RAID "resyncing" process (mdadm)? One of the two HDDs are failing so I want to run in degraded mode, but after a reboot it's trying to sync up. Can I kill it without damaging the data on the remaining good HDD?
[22:43] <ClientAlive> overclucker: ok. I just thought there might be a lot of stuff from the jre that get's clobbered. (Not that that would screw up the installation necessicarliy, just have to keep telling it got ahead and overwrite over and over a thousand times  :)
[22:43] <overclucker> ClientAlive: actually it wont get clobbered at all, they install to thier own directories
[22:44] <xibalba> how do i check nfs exports again?
[22:44] <diamonds> hiya
[22:44] <diamonds> I am having trouble printing
[22:44] <ox1de> hi.. i have a simple query... how do I install infinity visualizer on audacious? i downloaded the file but cant figure out how to install and make it function
[22:44] <k1gwb> Oh also the streaming of MP3s worked perfectly on 12.04 yesterday :)
[22:44] <ox1de> i may have missed the scroll
[22:45] <ClientAlive> right on. What I gather though is I prolly should remove all java first then install the jdk and the iced tea plugin again.
[22:45] <overclucker> ClientAlive: only symlinks to java, javac javaw, and so on get changed
[22:45] <diamonds> I have an HP printer
[22:45] <diamonds> it keeps all jobs at "pending"
[22:46] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/5021310/text
[22:46] <diamonds> printer state: Stopped - /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed
[22:47] <overclucker> ClientAlive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <-- has info on using update-alternatives to switch between versions
[22:47] <grandal_prime> overclocker that does not work. recover mode boots me into ro
[22:47] <ClientAlive> overclucker: I'm actually on that page  ;)
[22:47] <DR460N_P1G> test
[22:48] <overclucker> ClientAlive: then you're on the right page ;)
[22:48] <ClientAlive> :)
[22:48] <diamonds> what the hell -> hp-check tells me I'm not in the correct group to manage printers
[22:48] <diamonds> (i'm su'd to root)
[22:48] <xibalba> anyone here used opendedup?
[22:48] <bekks> diamonds: Thats correct. Being root does not inherit group memberships.
[22:49] <diamonds> how do I add user to group
[22:49] <diamonds> last time I followed a bad article and removed myself from all other groups :)
[22:49] <bekks> diamonds: Check as the user who's printing.
[22:49] <diamonds> so I'm more caustious this time
[22:49] <overclucker> grandal_prime: then try a live cd. teh ubuntu live cd should work if you install the lvm2 package
[22:49] <diamonds> bekks, ok
[22:49] <xibalba> anyone here used opendedup?
[22:50] <diamonds> ah I'm not in group lp
[22:51] <xibalba> my exportfs shows the following but i keep getting access denied when trying to mount,
[22:51] <xibalba> ~# exportfs
[22:51] <xibalba>                 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
[22:51] <xibalba> mounting from 192.168.1.50
[22:51] <bekks> xibalba: NFSv3 or NFSv4?
[22:52] <xibalba> good question, i think v3 since there is no auth.
[22:52] <xibalba> how to confirm?
[22:52] <xibalba> i see a nfsd4 service running along with nfsd
[22:52] <bekks> by mounting the share using -o vers=3 or something like that.
[22:53] <diamonds> usermod -a -G lp diamonds
[22:53] <diamonds> ^does this look like a safe way to add diamonds to the lp group?
[22:53] <xibalba> bekks, trying
[22:53] <bekks> diamonds: yes
[22:54] <xibalba> bekks, this is with OpenDeDup
[22:54] <overclucker> diamonds: yup. the '-a' is the important switch you missed before, i think.
[22:54] <bekks> xibalba: Never heard of that.
[22:54] <diamonds> overclucker, yep.  ho boy, that caused me some trouble :)
[22:54] <xibalba> bekks, based on Ubuntu. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1268407/ -- http://opendedup.org/administrators-guide
[22:55] <bekks> xibalba: OK, so it is no Ubuntu. And thus not supported in here
[22:55] <jrib> how can I "reread" ~/.XCompose without restart X?
[22:55] <xibalba> it uses everything ubuntu underlying
[22:56] <newbie|3> Helloooo
[22:56] <bekks> xibalba: It is not an official Ubuntu derivate, and thus not supported in here.
[22:56] <xibalba> ok well i'm sure someone else can help
[22:56] <diamonds> hmmm that's not working
[22:57] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/5021350/text
[22:57] <bekks> diamonds: Did you log out completely?
[22:57] <xibalba> anyway the exports file is showing the correct data /media/testVol1/nfs
[22:57] <xibalba>                 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
[22:57] <diamonds> bekks, no :)
[22:57] <bekks> diamonds: You have to, for taking group membership modifications into effect.
[22:57] <xibalba> how do i mount with nfsv4 /.
[22:57] <varikonniemi> i installed the packages kubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <newbie|3> xibalba, diamonds, bekks, are you logged in youtube?
[22:57] <xibalba> from an official Ubuntu system?
[22:58] <bekks> newbie|3: Doesnt matter, this is Ubuntu support :)
[22:58] <varikonniemi> then i removed them, but they stay in the menu entry
[22:58] <xibalba> newbie|3, no why?
[22:58] <varikonniemi> and the kubuntu logo stays at spalsh
[22:58] <varikonniemi> how come?
[22:58] <newbie|3> I just wanted a big help to make a comment favourite in a video
[22:58] <TJ-> diamonds: "sudo adduser <user> <group>"   then you have to log-out all the sessions and log-in if they need to see the new group membership
[22:58] <bekks> newbie|3: Thats not an Ubuntu issue, I guess.
[22:59] <newbie|3> hmm no bekks, but linux issue, the comment that says: Linux does it BETTER and uses? LESS RESOURCES!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gypGxVXgdY
[22:59] <bekks> newbie|3: So it is not an Ubuntu issue.
[22:59] <newbie|3> I'm not that linuxspatry, just a sub of him, and the purpose is to make people know linux, and troll the windows lovers
[22:59] <bekks> newbie|3: You may ask for opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:00] <newbie|3> ah thanks bekks
[23:00] <diamonds> ok so hp-check is complaining about dependencies
[23:00] <xibalba> alight, no support. tony the tiger says grrrrrrrreat
[23:01] <TJ-> xibalba: From my fstab: "10.254.251.1:/Library /home/all/Library nfs4 _netdev,auto,user 0 0"
[23:01] <xibalba> i'm trying to do it one time from the command line, just testing
[23:02] <xibalba> ah, found out there is a mount.nfs and mount.nfs54
[23:02] <xibalba> 4*
[23:02] <xibalba> F
[23:02] <TJ-> xibalba: On the server: "/srv         			10.254.0.0/16(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,crossmnt,fsid=0)
[23:02] <TJ->   /srv/Library 			10.254.0.0/16(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)"
[23:02] <ClientAlive> If I type "javac -version" into my terminal and the response printed to the screen is "javac 1.7.0_07" Does that mean I already have what I need?
[23:02] <diamonds> how do I pipe stdout && stderr to one place
[23:03] <jrib> diamonds: &>
[23:03] <jrib> erm
[23:03] <jrib> diamonds: |&
[23:03] <diamonds> to pipe to xclip?
[23:03] <diamonds> ok
[23:03] <xibalba> TJ-, thanks trying
[23:03] <TJ-> xibalba: the tools are in package nfs-common
[23:04] <ClientAlive> TJ-: bekks: overclucker: ??
[23:04] <overclucker> ?
[23:04] <diamonds> check for runtime deps... http://pastie.org/pastes/5021374/text
[23:04] <ClientAlive> overclucker: If I type "javac -version" into my terminal and the response printed to the screen is "javac 1.7.0_07" Does that mean I already have what I need?
[23:04] <bekks> ClientAlive: Yes.
[23:04] <TJ-> ClientAlive: That says you have java compiler for 1.7, yes
[23:04] <ClientAlive> overclucker: that's great
[23:05] <ClientAlive> thanks man
[23:06] <Respite212> Hey guys, I was wondering if I would be able to move my /home to my second drive?
[23:06] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You can check what alternates are available for javac using "update-alternatives --list javac"
[23:06] <xibalba> TJ-, can you take a gander here :  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1268418/
[23:06] <TJ-> xibalba: looking
[23:06] <xibalba> ty
[23:08] <diamonds> hmm...
[23:08] <diamonds> installing hplip-gui allowed me to go to manager > printer control > "start printer"
[23:08]  * diamonds shrugs
[23:08] <TJ-> xibalba: When exporting directories (on the server_ they have to be under the server's root (which is usually /srv/). Also, when mounting (on the client) the path has to be the exact same one on the server (e.g. if exportfs says "/srv/Library..." then the mount source will be "/srv/Library")
[23:09] <ClientAlive> TJ-: right on. via update-alternatives... " it appears I'm using oracle's on my laptop but the open source on my desktop. Can you (or someone) tell me what you think of this method?  http://youtu.be/RxLATpa8_OE   <at 4:30 on the counter or if there's info in the notes below the vid>
[23:09] <xibalba> TJ-, oh weird i never knew that. i used to use NFS alot on BSd and I dont think that was the case. I will try again
[23:10] <TJ-> xibalba: Well, now you've got me wondering, but I'm pretty sure that is how it gets configured on Debian/Ubuntu. I had to do "mount --rbind /home/Library /srv/Library" in fstab to do "/srv/Library" in exportfs
[23:10] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> botsnack
[23:10] <overclucker> Respite212: copy the contents onto it and set it to mount on /home in /etc/ftab
[23:10] <xibalba> TJ-, seems to hang when i use that.
[23:10] <xibalba> TJ-, gonna fiddle with it i'll let you know
[23:11] <TJ-> xibalba: Good luck! It took me a while to get the flags correct on the exports, too, for bind-mounts
[23:11] <diamonds> how can I configure the notifications in unity?
[23:11] <Smackbook> i'm trying to get my hdmi audio out working, when I go into system settings > sound settings and choose the right settings for my hdmi chip on the hardware tab, I can test the left and right and hear the test voice, but none of the system sounds are being routed through there.  when I go into alsamixer and select the hdmi sound chip it shows spdif [,1,2] they all have 00 (not MM) but no volume bars (nothing happens when i press up and do
[23:12] <diamonds> i don't like the fade on mouseover behavior
[23:14] <Respite212> overclucker: Can I just directly mount the /dev/sdb1 to /home?
[23:14] <Respite212> and change it in /esc/fstab?
[23:14] <TJ-> ClientAlive: PPAs are good *provided* the packagers know what they are doing and don't create dependency conflicts for other packages on the system, over-write configuration files or links without using update-alternatives and so on.
[23:14] <overclucker> Respite212: yes, but first mount it somewhere like /mnt and use sudo cp -aR /home/* /mnt
[23:15] <ClientAlive> TJ-: I see
[23:15] <ClientAlive> I think I'm gonna risk it for that desktop. Hope it doesn't screw me up, but what's shown in the vid looks pretty smooth.
[23:16] <vivid> ClientAlive, they are also good when ubuntu refuses to support or update certain things that people need
[23:16] <TJ-> ClientAlive: generally, the convention is to install non-distro packages to /opt/ or locally-built packages to /usr/local/ so as not to conflict with the distro's system files
[23:17] <Respite212> overclucker: doesn't work
[23:17] <ClientAlive> TJ-: I see. Well that manual installation looked like a serious pain  ;)
[23:17] <Respite212> sudo cp -aR/home/* /mnt
[23:17] <Respite212> cp: invalid option -- '/'
[23:17] <Respite212> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[23:18] <overclucker> Respite212: there's a space after -aR
[23:18] <Respite212> overclucker: cp: cannot stat `/home/geertt2/.gvfs': Permission denied
[23:18] <Respite212> hmm
[23:19] <static09> correct file name?
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> geert?
[23:21] <overclucker> Respite212: that wont break anything, so it's ok, only annoying
[23:22] <Respite212> overclucker: So what do I do now once I finished sudo co -aR /home/* /mnt?
[23:22] <Respite212> kinda new to linux
[23:23] <pushcx> I'm trying to debug a cron job, but I can't get output. I installed mailutils and set MAILTO=pushcx at the top of the cron job, and I added >/tmp/foo.log &>/tmp/foo.log to the end of the command, but no luck. Any suggestions?
[23:23] <jrib> pushcx: paste the relevant crontab line
[23:23] <overclucker> Respite212: set it to mount on /home in /etc/fstab then reboot
[23:24] <jrib> pushcx: also try replacing '&' with '2'
[23:25] <pushcx> jrib: * * * * * /usr/local/bin/tarsnapper -v -c /home/pushcx/.tarsnapper.conf make > /tmp/ts.log &> /tmp/ts.log
[23:25] <overclucker> Respite212: you may also want to remove the old files from /home or they will just be invisible clutter
[23:25] <Respite212> overcluckers: Err, sorry how do I get into /etc/fstab?
[23:25] <pushcx> cron says in the log that it's kicked it off but I never see it in top and it sure takes more than a minute to run, so it must be having some kind of error on load that I can't repro from a full login env
[23:26] <overclucker> Respite212: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[23:26] <jrib> pushcx: see if that change with the & at least gets you some you some output
[23:26] <pushcx> jrib: sure, let you know in 20s :)
[23:27] <pushcx> yeah, some kind of big python exception - thanks, jirb, now that I have debugging I can run it down.
[23:30] <Respite212> overcluckers: Ah... what exactly do I write in /etc/fstab? All I see are some lines.
[23:32] <ClientAlive> TJ-: That ppa seems to have worked ok. But I wonder if something is normal. This is the ouput of "update-alternative --config java"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268442/   Does that look normal to you? See how the same description entry appears twice?
[23:33] <overclucker> Respite212: /dev/sdXN /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2   where sdXN is your partition label
[23:34] <actionParsnip> overclucker: I'd suggest using UUIDs
[23:34] <goddard> can 12.10 be downloaded yet?
[23:34] <actionParsnip> goddard: it has for months
[23:34] <overclucker> actionParsnip: good call
[23:34] <TJ-> ClientAlive: The auto versus manual is just how the system chose which to use, so that looks OK
[23:34] <goddard> actionParsnip: i wanna get gnome 3.6
[23:34] <ClientAlive> TJ-: Right on. Thx
[23:35] <Gracenotes> flash video has gotten really messed up on both Firefox and Chrome, staggering and/or speeding up both video and audio. it's really disturbing. Any tips on making the pain go away?
[23:35] <actionParsnip> goddard: quantal has it by default. There may be a PPA for it in precise butI would take chances with something as fundamental as the desktop
[23:35] <bekks> Gracenotes: Blame it on Adobe. They cancelled Flash support for Linux.
[23:36] <Respite212> actionParsnip: How do I get a UUIDs from a disk?
[23:36] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: can you give the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[23:36] <Gracenotes> bekks: I updated something in apt-get and now it doesn't work, and it's not Adobe's thing that I updated
[23:36] <goddard> actionParsnip: yeah thats what i am thinking .. so you think its safe to just do an update to 12.10 now?
[23:36] <bekks> Gracenotes: You could try Chrome with embedded flash support
[23:36] <actionParsnip> Respite212: sudo blkid
[23:36] <actionParsnip> goddard: I always clean install, but you can upgrade now if you desire
[23:36] <pushcx> jrib: tracked down the missing env var and fixed it. My cron job is working perfectly. Thanks for your help. :)
[23:36] <ClientAlive> firfox crashed when I tried to do a java test
[23:37] <jrib> pushcx: no problem, nice work :)
[23:37] <overclucker> Respite212: run blkid in the terminal to determine the UUID for the partition and use UUID=your-UUID-label-here /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[23:37] <goddard> actionParsnip: do you do any work on your system?
[23:37] <bennypr0fane> help! my root passwort stopped working!
[23:37] <goddard> actionParsnip: how do you do a fresh install so often?
[23:37] <bennypr0fane> I'm sure I didn't change it
[23:37] <actionParsnip> goddard: work in what sense?
[23:37] <jrib> bennypr0fane: how do you know it stopped working?  There isn't a root password by default
[23:37] <actionParsnip> goddard: I reinstall the OS, upgrade it then get on. All my data is on a file server as well as my backps.....
[23:37] <bennypr0fane> I can't install application
[23:37] <goddard> actionParsnip: i dont know work at all I suppose .. I am a programmer and have a lot of projects and settings saved
[23:38] <jrib> bennypr0fane: how are you trying?
[23:38] <actionParsnip> goddard: fileserver holds everything I ned
[23:38] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: http://cogracenotes.com/tmp/flash
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> Ubuntu software center
[23:38] <actionParsnip> goddard: my $HOME is only 2Gb
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> won't let me install stuff
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> also at user accounts
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> I can't change settings
[23:38] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks, now how do I save the modified /etc/fstab?
[23:39] <goddard> actionParsnip: my Vm Ware images and ISOs eat up a lot of space
[23:39] <jrib> bennypr0fane: please don't use enter to break up your response.  What happens when you try?  Are you prompted for a password?
[23:39] <bennypr0fane> becs I need to enter the pwd first, but it's not accepted
[23:39] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer   then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[23:39] <jrib> bennypr0fane: open a terminal and tell us the output of « groups ».  Also please reply with my nick (jrib) if you want my attention
[23:39] <overclucker> Respite212: ctrl-o, ctrl-x
[23:39] <actionParsnip> goddard: if they are important to you, you should still have a backup
[23:39] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: ah. Okay, I'll try it from the source then...
[23:39] <bennypr0fane> Yes, I'm prompted for a pwd, but it won't be accepted, as if I had changed it - only I haven't
[23:39] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: source? what do you mean?
[23:40] <bennypr0fane> ok jrib
[23:40] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: adobe flash is proprietary, there is no freely available source
[23:40] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: bad phrasing. in this case, the souce is adobe.
[23:40] <Gracenotes> don't mean source code
[23:40] <Respite212> overclucker: Then I just reboot?
[23:40] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: the partner repo has what you need, it will install 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[23:40] <bennypr0fane> jrib: ~$ groups   ben adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[23:41] <actionParsnip> goddard: if your drive IDE dies, where is your data?
[23:41] <jrib> bennypr0fane: and when you type "su - ben" can you login there?
[23:41] <overclucker> Respite212: yup
[23:41] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks
[23:42] <bennypr0fane> jrib no, that doesn't work either
[23:42] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you're sure capslock is off?
[23:42] <goddard> actionParsnip: i have a external drive i back up to nightly
[23:42] <goddard> actionParsnip: ive never had to revert to that data so i have no idea how i would even do it
[23:43] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: yeah, I'm afraid that doesn't make a difference
[23:43] <goddard> actionParsnip: i use deja dup
[23:43] <actionParsnip> goddard: i suggest you look into it, so that you can
[23:43] <Gracenotes> ah well
[23:43] <bennypr0fane> jrib: yes, no capslock
[23:43] <jrib> bennypr0fane: well seems like your password was changed somehow then.  Do you want to reset it?
[23:43] <bennypr0fane> I have a notification led if it's turned on
[23:43] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: have you tried chrome?
[23:44] <Respite212> now can I reformat/repartition my original /home?
[23:44] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: it's even more messed up than FF. hm.
[23:44] <actionParsnip> goddard: just cleared some temp files out from my home folder and it's now this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268456/
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> jrib I did make a change to user account settings: I turned off pasword at login, because I didn't want to be asked to unlock the keyring at startup. maybe that deleted my pwd and replaced it /w something else?
[23:45] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: it has flash built in if you install the deb from the google site :)
[23:45] <Gracenotes> yep. well, it is pretty messed up.
[23:45] <overclucker> Respite212: nope, it's just a folder. if you want to clear the data from it, reboot into recovery, make sure your new home isn't mounted and rm -R /home/*
[23:45] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you're on 12.04?
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> jrib yes, I'd like to reset it
[23:45] <actionParsnip> goddard: mostt of it is my dropbox cace :)
[23:45] <Gracenotes> I did get the deb straight from google, too
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> yes, 12.04
[23:45] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: isn't it worth exploring though?
[23:46] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: I mean, it's mssed up on Chrome too.
[23:46] <jrib> bennypr0fane: if you want to reset your password, see ubottu
[23:46] <jrib> !password | bennypr0fane
[23:46] <Respite212> overclucker: Can't I use gparted to remove the partition?
[23:46] <overclucker> Respite212: make sure you don't delete the files from your new home
[23:47] <Gracenotes> Another thing is that there is clicking every so often when I use headphones. I think a larger issue, potentially, might be something messed up with the sound card.
[23:47] <bennypr0fane> I'm kinda freaked out. Is it possible I might have reset it by turning it off for login?
[23:47] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: I see, you weren't clear. Could download the 64bit flash plugin from the adobe site and put it into the browser's plugins folder
[23:47] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: I assume you closed all browsers and reopened it after installing the flash plugin
[23:47] <overclucker> Respite212: was it on a partition before? I though you were moving it from root to a separate partition.
[23:47] <jrib> bennypr0fane: that's unlikely
[23:47] <jrib> bennypr0fane: maybe you chose the wrong option?
[23:48] <Respite212> overclucker: No, it was on it's seperate partition but I want my /home on another harddrive.
[23:48] <bennypr0fane> jrib possible
[23:48] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: wouldn't that be the same one as in the partner repository?
[23:48] <overclucker> Respite212: then yes you can use gparted for that
[23:48] <goddard> actionParsnip: haha mine is 90Gigs
[23:48] <bennypr0fane> problem is my UI is in German, so I'm not sure I'm translating to the correct terms of the English UI
[23:48] <Gracenotes> after I installed adobe-flashplugin and uninstalled the other one, I logged out and back in again
[23:49] <actionParsnip> goddard: here is my file server though: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268463/
[23:49] <Respite212> overclucker: now is there a way to add the additional space from the sda4 to /sdb1/home
[23:50] <goddard> actionParsnip: not sure what to think of that
[23:50] <bennypr0fane> In "users", I have just my account, with an "admin" tag. For "login options" I have "none" at "password", and "automatic login" is "on"
[23:50] <overclucker> Respite212: You could have mentioned that before you'll want lvm for that.
[23:51] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you probably removed that password with that "none" option, though I'm not sure
[23:51] <Respite212> overclucker: Uhh, sorry, this is still new to me.
[23:51] <jrib> s/that/your
[23:51] <actionParsnip> goddard: the data on my system is low so I can reinstall at will with near zero effort. The data I use and need is stored on a system which hasn't been reinstalled in years, and probably won't be until it dies. This is how I get my work done, as you say :)
[23:52] <bennypr0fane> jrib if I did remove it, I would now need to leave it blank when prompted, right? Bcs that doesn't work either, I checked
[23:52] <goddard> actionParsnip: dont applications need to save their data in your home directory?
[23:52] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: ah. loading up videos in totem, I have the same problem
[23:52] <overclucker> Respite212: it's ok, you'll have to redo everything with some additional steps though
[23:52] <jrib> bennypr0fane: nah, you probably need to set one
[23:52] <goddard> Gracenotes: you can try Miro
[23:52] <jrib> bennypr0fane: I don't think blank passwords are allowed by default
[23:53] <actionParsnip> goddard: yes, but its very small as you can see
[23:53] <Gracenotes> oh. restarting alsa did some of the work.
[23:53] <Respite212> overclucker: What happened was I wanted to add more space to /home originally because it was running out of space and I had a second sd harddrive the system wasn't using.
[23:53] <actionParsnip> goddard: I even use transgui so that torrents are shipped to the file server with no effort :)
[23:53] <goddard> actionParsnip: i might have to see if i can implement something like that
[23:53] <bennypr0fane> jrib but I definitely didn't specify another one
[23:53] <Gracenotes> this is just ridiculous though. In the last few days, I've had to restart alsa every hour or so
[23:54] <Gracenotes> it didn't work to fix the problem I was having with flash, but apparently logging out and then restarting did the trick
[23:54] <actionParsnip> goddard: makes sense to me, its what works for me. Its not best but I just find it easier.
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> so to set a new one, I guess I follow the instructions on that wiki pagE?
[23:54] <jrib> bennypr0fane: my advice is for you to reset it
[23:54] <jrib> bennypr0fane: yeah
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> ok
[23:54] <Gracenotes> and there's still this clicking issue I have.
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> will try that, thanks jrib
[23:54] <shwaiil> hi
[23:55] <goddard> actionParsnip: i said when i got my new laptop a year ago i was going to spend some time and do it right but work keeps me to busy
[23:56] <shwaiil> Q: I want to install windows first before installing ubuntu in a new machine. I'm currently running ubuntu in my old machine, I used uNetbootIn to create a win7 boot usb drive, but it's not working. Anyone can sugest me a way for creating a usb boot ? Thanks for looking
[23:57] <IdleOne> shwaiil: For help with Windows ask in ##windows
[23:57] <shwaiil> IdleOne: I'm running ubuntu
[23:57] <shwaiil> tks for looking anyway
[23:57] <IdleOne> shwaiil: but you need help with Windows
[23:57] <shwaiil> IdleOne:  no I need help on creating a boot usb from ubuntu
[23:57] <IdleOne> We do Ubuntu support. ##windows does Windows support.
[23:58] <N9NU> http://77.51.249.86:8112      Free Playboy TV media stream
[23:58] <actionParsnip> shwaiil: you can use unetbootin with a windows ISO using unetbootin. I believe you have to format the device to NTFS
[23:58] <Daekdroom> !guidelines | N9NU
[23:58] <N9NU> how nice to find such a program
[23:58] <IdleOne> shwaiil: The tool you use to create the Windows USB is irrelevant. You need windows help and that is done in ##windows
[23:58] <mr_t3> hi
[23:59] <shwaiil> IdleOne: I'm sorry, but you're missing the point. I want to understand how I can create a usb boot
[23:59] <shwaiil> actionParsnip: tks for looking! I tried with fat, I'll try with ntfs thanks
[23:59] <mr_t3> is there an rsync option to delete a source file after successful (validated) transfer?