[10:11] <smartboyhw> OK since ubuntustudio-default-settings got in I think not really much work to go on now except testing:D
[12:43] <scott-work> good morning everyone :)
[12:44] <scott-work> it looks like changes are happening at work, and i expect more free time by the end of this month
[12:44] <scott-work> is anyone interested in brainstorming for next cycle and getting blueprints lined out?
[12:44] <scott-work> ..
[12:45] <scott-work> by the way, len-dt and ailo (and micahg too), you guys rocked some good stuff this cycle
[12:45] <scott-work> without your involvement, we would have been basically dead
[12:48] <falktx> scott-work: hey there
[12:49] <falktx> scott-work: I look forward to get my Cadence tools into debian soon
[12:49] <falktx> so I kinda ask, can that be considered on the next meeting or something?
[12:49] <falktx> only for next cycle, of course
[12:51] <ailo-w> falktx: I'm willing to look through your stuff. We should use your apps and see how they could be useful
[12:52] <falktx> ailo-w: thanks, I'm working hard to finalize them now
[12:52] <ailo-w> falktx: Are you happy with their current state? Just add your ppa and install them?
[12:52] <falktx> I still need to write their documentation so everyone knows what they do
[12:52] <FloatingGoat> what apps?
[12:52] <falktx> ailo-w: I'll create a new PPA just for them in the mean time
[12:52] <ailo-w> falktx: Good idea. I can help with docs
[12:53] <falktx> the page I use to write the app-docs is here:
[12:53] <falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/KXStudio:Applications
[12:53] <falktx> (skip FeSTige and Klaudia)
[12:53] <scott-work> falktx: that would be awesome (getting cadence into debian)!
[12:53] <scott-work> congratulations :)
[12:53] <falktx> thanks, still lots of work to do though :)
[12:54] <scott-work> the calf plugins apparently have a new website (and some new plugins): http://calf.sourceforge.net/index.html
[12:54] <falktx> yes, those are awesome!
[12:55]  * FloatingGoat is going to try festige
[12:55] <ailo-w> falktx: I'll make sure to install them and use them for a little while. I'd suggest anyone else to do that too, so we know how they are useful. 
[12:56] <falktx> ailo-w: I already have them in kxstudio (as calf-plugins-git package), I assure you they are great
[12:56] <falktx> I need to update to latest git though, there has been lots of fixes recently
[13:04] <ailo-w> scott-work: I'd give len-dt most of the credit for this cycle, all though, I've been doing preparative work on a few important things, such as Ubuntu Studio developer docs. Things are kind of hectic, so things move painfully slowly for me right now on US development, but I will keep working on whatever I've started.
[13:34] <FloatingGoat> falktx: hey can i use festige with qtractor?
[13:35] <falktx> festige is an app, not a plugin
[13:35] <falktx> dssi-vst is there for the job, check the plugins page
[13:37] <FloatingGoat> it wont load or something
[13:37] <falktx> hM?
[13:39] <FloatingGoat> it doesnt seem to load
[13:42] <FloatingGoat> im going to try and work around it
[13:42] <falktx> note that I don't support festige anymore
[13:43] <falktx> everything is going towards the cadence tools
[13:43] <falktx> there is 'Carla' in there which will replace festige soon
[13:43] <FloatingGoat> what is cadence?
[13:43] <FloatingGoat>  I was looking at it and it looks cool
[14:57] <smartboyhw> hi scott-work 
[14:57] <smartboyhw> and ailo-w
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Wow er scott-work and ailo you have been praising len-dt ?
[14:59]  * smartboyhw joins the crowd
[15:00] <scott-work> hi smartboyhw 
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Hey falktx saw you talking about cadence into debian:D
[15:00] <smartboyhw> scott-work, blueprints....Where are they?:D
[15:00] <smartboyhw> I saw it from today's logs
[15:01] <scott-work> i mention it because i wanted to start brainstorming ideas for the blueprints
[15:02] <smartboyhw> scott-work, first idea: To add a "Work hard on Developer Docs" item for ailo :D
[15:02] <scott-work> i expect that some tasks from Q will carry over to R, but i would also expect some new tasks
[15:03] <scott-work> the current blueprint framework should also be reconsidered...the names and parsing of the blueprints were my construct and might not be the most applicable
[15:03] <smartboyhw> :D
[15:04] <scott-work> however, if they work and no one wants to change, delete, or add a particular blueprint topic to better handle particular tasks, then we should definitely explore that
[15:04] <smartboyhw> scott-work, so really nothing to do much for Q now eh?:D
[15:10]  * smartboyhw hopes he can do all that testing in 14th-18th Oct....Will be quite busy ah!
[15:11] <scott-work> there are incidentals we can always work on, e.g. website, documentation
[15:11] <scott-work> and always bug fixes that should be looked at
[15:11] <scott-work> i am actually setting up two computers on a KVM switch in the game room to help out with testing again
[15:12]  * scott-work lost his "testing area" from the spare bedroom
[15:12] <smartboyhw> scott-work, :D
[15:12] <smartboyhw> YEAH YEAH YEAH
[15:19] <len-dt> scott-work, my testing is kind of slow these days due to a video problem with my machine. 
[15:20] <smartboyhw> welcome len-dt look at your praises from ailo, scott-work and me!:D
[15:21] <len-dt> There has been an offer of getting the latest gimp paint studio into repos if we are going to include it.The offer came a bit late this cycle, but might be worth considering for R
[15:23]  * len-dt thanks people for the support, but thinks it is mostly just menu reworking.
[15:23] <smartboyhw> len-dt, I think the new one must be in for R Alpha 1!
[15:23] <smartboyhw> len-dt, come on you worked most hard
[15:25]  * smartboyhw anyway thanks ailo and len-dt and scott-work for making a wonderful OS.
[15:25] <len-dt> scott-work, another item to add to R BP is getting icons set up for any of our own *.desktop or *.directory files
[15:25] <scott-work> len-dt: if gimp paint studio was in the repo i would defintely like to include it in the graphics seeds
[15:28] <scott-work> i also wish synfig was back in the repos or some other 2d graphics animation application
[15:28]  * scott-work wonders if pencil ever get into the repos
[15:52] <scott-work> apparently it has :)
[15:52] <scott-work> i think i will look into using this for a few upcoming projects then
[15:56] <falktx> warning: gimpshop is a scam and virus source
[15:56] <falktx> just in case...
[16:00] <scott-work> oho, just realized that synfig was back in ubuntu starting in quantal :D
[16:07] <len-dt> scott-work, the person to talk to for gimp paint studio is shnatsel
[16:08] <len-dt> He already has it in his own PPA
[16:27] <scott-work> i remember shnatsel talking about it and telling me about some of the features (although i can't remember anything specific :P )
[16:27] <len-dt> scott-work, it is an addon to gimp it adds tools to gimp, not another app.
[16:28] <len-dt> Makes gimp able to do painting kinds of things as well as touch up etc.
[16:29] <scott-work> i remember the feeling that it was a set of tools that bridges gimp to photoshop functionality basically
[16:29] <len-dt> I'm not enough of an artist (paint/visual wise) to make good use of it. I like something that can draw shapes.
[16:29] <scott-work> i found this just now, which is pretty damn impressive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nKnvp2sJww
[16:29] <len-dt> (lines, squares, circles)
[16:30] <scott-work> another interesting video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmcvR2yeGbQ
[16:31] <scott-work> i wish there would be a blender "paint studio" :P
[16:31] <scott-work> well for video
[16:31] <scott-work> lower thirds, et al can be made with the node editor but it would be nice have scripts already together for such common things like mainstream video editors
[16:32] <scott-work> the hope is lightworks currently for many people to provide this stuff
[16:33] <len-dt> Nice video... have to start out with an artist though. I couldn't do that :)
[18:55] <scott-work> woah, webchat did some weird stuff and then wouldn't let me log on
[19:15] <len-dt> scott-work, two more things to add to 13.04 BP are controls (Which is in progress) and mode change (Len needs to rewrite this in python)
[19:25] <len-dt> they actually go together.
[19:50] <scott-work> len-dt: i'm going to review the logs and then post a these items to the mailing list for record and to ask others to contribute ideas