| Davew | Hi All, I wish to find out if there are issues with menu editor / profile manager and any known other way of controlling ltsp client choices | 10:00 |
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| Davew | Anyone Help ? | 10:00 |
| Davew_ | I raised a query about menu editor and profile manager in 12.04 not functioning. I am using the server as we speak. Can anybody else | 13:10 |
| Davew_ | confirm that these applications do not function. | 13:11 |
| Davew_ | And if so what are you doing to restrict thin client access. | 13:13 |
| stgraber | mgariepy: ^ | 13:14 |
| Davew_ | Consider the picture. I have 120 potential clients. I am using webmin to get the users onto the server, and as the students behind me can tell you | 13:17 |
| Davew_ | we cannot use the system yet. | 13:17 |
| Davew_ | I have been using a Centos server with Samba to allow the Xp clients to access the server. But we all know that to administer this | 13:19 |
| Davew_ | sucks. So LTSP is the way......if it works. If I should be using another Distro please tell me .....as long as it all works. | 13:20 |
| mgariepy | Davew, what issue do you have with edubuntu-menueditor ? | 13:45 |
| Davew_ | Hi, It doesn't work. | 13:51 |
| Davew_ | I have used menu editor to create a tar.gz file. Yesterday I was able to import that menu in to profile manager. But when a person of the student group logs on no change has been made to the menu they are looking at. | 13:52 |
| Davew_ | I havetried using the system to create other tar.gz files but now I find I don't seem able to create those. | 13:53 |
| Davew_ | I am following the instructions in the Wiki. | 13:54 |
| Davew_ | I will try to be more explicit--- | 13:57 |
| Davew_ | ------I open menu editor | 13:58 |
| mgariepy | which desktop are you using on ltsp ? | 13:59 |
| Davew_ | -------- I remove the ticks from items I do not wish to show | 13:59 |
| mgariepy | gnome-fallback or unity ? | 13:59 |
| Davew_ | --------I save the menu and append .tar.gz to the filename | 14:00 |
| Davew_ | ------I open Profile manager and import the menu and assign it to a group all the users are a member of. | 14:01 |
| Davew_ | -------- I use File and Save again | 14:02 |
| Davew_ | -------I test the meu by logging in as a student on one of the clients and it makes no difference to what is displayed. | 14:04 |
| Davew_ | ---------- I shall try this again now....... | 14:04 |
| mgariepy | Davew, which desktop are you using on ltsp ? | 14:08 |
| mgariepy | stgraber, are the ltsp package ready to be tested ? | 14:08 |
| mgariepy | Davew, can you please answer my question ? | 14:09 |
| mgariepy | i want to help you but i need you to answer so i can debug what is going on with the configuration. | 14:09 |
| stgraber | mgariepy: nope, still in the queue. The queue seems pretty backloged (40 items) mostly because of yesterday being a public holiday in canada/us | 14:09 |
| Davew_ | Hi , Desktop is Unity | 14:10 |
| mgariepy | stgraber, can you poke me when i need to test then ? | 14:10 |
| stgraber | mgariepy: sure | 14:10 |
| Davew_ | When you say tested I am not sure in which context you mean | 14:11 |
| mgariepy | Davew, i was talking to stgraber not you ;) | 14:11 |
| mgariepy | Davew, can you log into the system and pastebin me the environment you have ? | 14:12 |
| Davew_ | Apologies in advance | 14:12 |
| Davew_ | How do i do that / | 14:13 |
| mgariepy | you log in to a thin client with a user that should get the menu applied | 14:14 |
| mgariepy | then you open a terminal and run this : env |pastebinit | 14:15 |
| Davew_ | I am I think going to have to do this later. At the moment I have no menu as I have deleted what I had in an attempt | 14:18 |
| Davew_ | to create a new menu. I was just trying to create a new menu now. If I can do this and then env |pastebinit what should I do then | 14:20 |
| mgariepy | Davew, poke me i want to see what's in it ;) | 14:20 |
| Davew_ | OK leave it with me I shall do what I can | 14:21 |
| fluitfries | hi, default install of edubuntu on a dell latitude d430. wifi hardware was notedetected until 1st boot, then i approved the 3rd party drivers. however the wifi is not showing any networks and an ifconfig tells me that the interface is called "lxcbr0" which i have never seen before... | 14:29 |
| fluitfries | well, i need to install the gnome fallback interface, so maybe i'll try a reinstall and see if that fixes the wifi... | 14:39 |
| Davew_ | mgariepy: ^ | 14:55 |
| Davew_ | I assume this is a poke ? | 14:56 |
| mgariepy | Davew, do you have the url that pastebinit gave you ? | 14:57 |
| Davew_ | I have probably got a bit of time before you respond..... | 14:57 |
| highvoltage | fluitfries: hey there | 14:58 |
| highvoltage | fluitfries: lxcbr0 is set up by lxc (it's harmless) | 14:58 |
| fluitfries | ok, so if my wifi interface is not showing after install of 3rd party drivers, any ideas? | 14:58 |
| highvoltage | fluitfries: it might be worth while to do an lspci to see which wireless card it contains, some wireless chips have some of their own issues | 14:59 |
| fluitfries | ok | 14:59 |
| highvoltage | fluitfries: quite often there's a question already asked on askubuntu.com for most common wifi problems, I can strongly recommend it. | 14:59 |
| Davew_ | Just in case it is of any importance I have been using a templates folder off my homefolder and had been able to save menus there. | 14:59 |
| fluitfries | hey also, can i install gmone fallback via synaptic? | 14:59 |
| fluitfries | gnome-fallback | 14:59 |
| highvoltage | fluitfries: yep. | 14:59 |
| fluitfries | ty! | 14:59 |
| highvoltage | fluitfries: you'll just have to select it from the login screen by clickong on the logo in the corner of the login box | 15:00 |
| Davew_ | I changed this location yesterday and could not seem to save it in this location. | 15:00 |
| fluitfries | kk | 15:00 |
| Davew_ | Anyway I have gone through the proces and created a tester2.tar.gzfile. | 15:01 |
| Davew_ | I have used this to create a profile and logged in as requested. I have used env > pastebinit and have the listing on the terminal waiting for you. | 15:03 |
| mgariepy | env | pastebinit | 15:03 |
| mgariepy | not > ;) | 15:04 |
| mgariepy | the "pipe" will send the output to pastebinit that will give you an url | 15:04 |
| mgariepy | i need to that this url. | 15:04 |
| mgariepy | i need this url** | 15:05 |
| Davew_ | Sorry the tilde did not work on the terminal keyboard | 15:05 |
| mgariepy | it's a pipe "|" | 15:05 |
| Davew_ | I thinl | is a tilde | 15:05 |
| mgariepy | do you have a us keyboard? | 15:06 |
| mgariepy | ~ < this is a tild. | 15:06 |
| Davew_ | Yes it is and yes I would have thought it was US | 15:06 |
| mgariepy | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269398/ | 15:08 |
| mgariepy | Davew, | 15:08 |
| mgariepy | can you copy this line in a terminal and give me the link ? | 15:09 |
| Davew_ | Have entered line in browser | 15:12 |
| Davew_ | Anything else to do ? | 15:15 |
| mgariepy | the line should be pasted in a terminal like gnome-terminal or xterm | 15:18 |
| Davew_ | have got xterm and put in line but on return get not found | 15:23 |
| mgariepy | do you have pastebinit installed ? | 15:23 |
| mgariepy | you can do this by doing : sudo apt-get install pastebinit | 15:23 |
| Davew_ | It is installed on the server | 15:25 |
| mgariepy | did you copied the 1 before the command ? | 15:25 |
| mgariepy | the command starts at the e of "env" | 15:26 |
| mgariepy | Davew, i'll be back in about an hour. | 15:31 |
| Davew_ | Have located pipe and URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269437/ | 15:35 |
| Davew_ | Pipe on my keyboard was a shifted ~ | 15:42 |
| Davew_ | I shall stay with this....apologies for delaying you | 15:43 |
| fluitfries | is there an official way to remove unity or can i just use apt? i want to switch to the fallback-gnome | 15:55 |
| fluitfries | it seems to already be installed... perhaps i misunderstood the check-box during installation. | 16:00 |
| Davew_ | Hi fluitfries I have found Unity not intuitive and you ? | 16:04 |
| fluitfries | yes, and too slow. | 16:04 |
| Davew_ | I am a bit worried that users if using ltsp may have trouble with it. We have all been weaned on microsoft type menus I think | 16:06 |
| mgariepy | Davew, i don't usually use unity, i use gnome-fallback on thin clients and it works quite well. | 16:50 |
| Davew_ | Hi again, yes I was going to go to gnome. Have I given you what you needed ? | 16:50 |
| mgariepy | yeah, it seams sort-of ok i was wondering if the XDG_DATA_DIRS and XDG_CONFIG_DIRS were exported. | 16:51 |
| mgariepy | and they are. | 16:51 |
| Davew_ | Anything for me to do ? | 16:57 |
| Davew_ | Strange thing is that I used menueditor in an earlier version and it seemed to work | 17:07 |
| mgariepy | Davew, i guess the problem is caused by unity, can you try whit gnome-fallback ? | 17:13 |
| Davew_ | This is done by logging off and logging back in with the gnome choice ? | 17:16 |
| mgariepy | Davew, yes | 17:17 |
| Davew_ | Ok I will do this now and return | 17:17 |
| Davew_ | O.K. Am Using Gnome - will create menu and return | 17:21 |
| Davew_ | It looks just the same to me , presumably it should be a gnome desktop as well | 17:30 |
| highvoltage | So, for the first time in around 2 years, the edubuntu-webcontact queue is down to 0! | 17:33 |
| Davew_ | URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269657 | 17:34 |
| mgariepy | Davew, it seams you are still in unity, | 17:35 |
| Davew_ | I am in the client I have just used but used logged out and then back in using gnome | 17:36 |
| Davew_ | Sorry will clarify, client is showing radar dish - server is logged in as gnome | 17:38 |
| mgariepy | Davew, you see the gnome panel bars on top and bottom of the desktop ? | 17:42 |
| mgariepy | Davew, http://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots | 17:43 |
| mgariepy | does it look like gnome fallback session ? | 17:43 |
| mgariepy | http://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots#Gnome_Fallback_Session | 17:44 |
| mgariepy | highvoltage, congrats! | 17:46 |
| Davew_ | Client has unity bar on left hand side--------Server which I logged in as Gnome has no such bar | 17:49 |
| Davew_ | Server looks like Gnome fallback which it should be | 17:49 |
| mgariepy | ok and is your menu applied correctly ? | 17:51 |
| mgariepy | Davew, what modification did you try to do ? | 17:51 |
| Davew_ | On wwhich machine ? | 17:51 |
| mgariepy | the menu modification in gnome | 17:51 |
| Davew_ | I assigned the menu I created in menu editor, to the group students and logged in as one of those students. I logged in to the server | 17:54 |
| Davew_ | after selecting Gnome before doing this | 17:55 |
| Davew_ | Could I suggest that you tell me what menu you would like to see and I will attempt to create it for you | 17:57 |
| mgariepy | Davew, there is a bug in the game menus, so hiding items from accessory menu should be fine. | 17:58 |
| Davew_ | OK will be back | 17:59 |
| Davew_ | I have done what was asked- what do you want me to look for that is accessory related on the unity client sctreen | 18:08 |
| mgariepy | is the accessory menu modified when using a gnome fallback session ? | 18:12 |
| Davew_ | Yes, I have logged in the client on a second machine and Accessory is not shown | 18:17 |
| Davew_ | This is in Gnome | 18:17 |
| Davew_ | With no session selection it defaults to Unity - which is not good. Can I make it be ONLY Gnome fall back ? | 18:20 |
| mgariepy | add this to lts.conf: LDM_SESSION='gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback' | 18:21 |
| Davew_ | mgariepy, can I thank you. There are two Gnome options when you log in - should it always be Gnome Classic. | 18:25 |
| mgariepy | Davew, should be gnome-classic (no effect) | 18:29 |
| Davew_ | Thank you again. I need to eat and shall go home now. I would like to do some documentation on Edubuntu LTSP, whom should I contact ? | 18:31 |
| mgariepy | Davew, you should poke highvoltage about this. | 18:32 |
| Davew_ | will do and thank you again. | 18:33 |
| mgariepy | Davew, you are welcome | 18:33 |
| highvoltage | mgariepy: nice try | 18:33 |
| highvoltage | Davew_: I think it will be best subscribing to the edubuntu-devel mailing list on http://lists.ubuntu.com | 18:33 |
| Davew_ | highvoltage, the offer is there, I would like to help | 18:33 |
| highvoltage | Davew_: feel free to send an introduction and explain some of the work you intend to do, and thanks in advance for your work :) | 18:34 |
| Davew_ | Will comply, thank you. | 18:34 |
| highvoltage | great! | 18:35 |
| mgariepy | highvoltage, i knew you knew how to do it ;P | 18:35 |
| mgariepy | highvoltage, i haven't been too close to all that recently. ;) | 18:35 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: what's up with edubuntu-live? | 18:36 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: translation update | 18:39 |
| highvoltage | ah | 18:47 |
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