[10:00] Hi All, I wish to find out if there are issues with menu editor / profile manager and any known other way of controlling ltsp client choices [10:00] Anyone Help ? [13:10] I raised a query about menu editor and profile manager in 12.04 not functioning. I am using the server as we speak. Can anybody else [13:11] confirm that these applications do not function. [13:13] And if so what are you doing to restrict thin client access. [13:14] mgariepy: ^ [13:17] Consider the picture. I have 120 potential clients. I am using webmin to get the users onto the server, and as the students behind me can tell you [13:17] we cannot use the system yet. [13:19] I have been using a Centos server with Samba to allow the Xp clients to access the server. But we all know that to administer this [13:20] sucks. So LTSP is the way......if it works. If I should be using another Distro please tell me .....as long as it all works. [13:45] Davew, what issue do you have with edubuntu-menueditor ? [13:51] Hi, It doesn't work. [13:52] I have used menu editor to create a tar.gz file. Yesterday I was able to import that menu in to profile manager. But when a person of the student group logs on no change has been made to the menu they are looking at. [13:53] I havetried using the system to create other tar.gz files but now I find I don't seem able to create those. [13:54] I am following the instructions in the Wiki. [13:57] I will try to be more explicit--- [13:58] ------I open menu editor [13:59] which desktop are you using on ltsp ? [13:59] -------- I remove the ticks from items I do not wish to show [13:59] gnome-fallback or unity ? [14:00] --------I save the menu and append .tar.gz to the filename [14:01] ------I open Profile manager and import the menu and assign it to a group all the users are a member of. [14:02] -------- I use File and Save again [14:04] -------I test the meu by logging in as a student on one of the clients and it makes no difference to what is displayed. [14:04] ---------- I shall try this again now....... [14:08] Davew, which desktop are you using on ltsp ? [14:08] stgraber, are the ltsp package ready to be tested ? [14:09] Davew, can you please answer my question ? [14:09] i want to help you but i need you to answer so i can debug what is going on with the configuration. [14:09] mgariepy: nope, still in the queue. The queue seems pretty backloged (40 items) mostly because of yesterday being a public holiday in canada/us [14:10] Hi , Desktop is Unity [14:10] stgraber, can you poke me when i need to test then ? [14:10] mgariepy: sure [14:11] When you say tested I am not sure in which context you mean [14:11] Davew, i was talking to stgraber not you ;) [14:12] Davew, can you log into the system and pastebin me the environment you have ? [14:12] Apologies in advance [14:13] How do i do that / [14:14] you log in to a thin client with a user that should get the menu applied [14:15] then you open a terminal and run this : env |pastebinit [14:18] I am I think going to have to do this later. At the moment I have no menu as I have deleted what I had in an attempt [14:20] to create a new menu. I was just trying to create a new menu now. If I can do this and then env |pastebinit what should I do then [14:20] Davew, poke me i want to see what's in it ;) [14:21] OK leave it with me I shall do what I can [14:29] hi, default install of edubuntu on a dell latitude d430. wifi hardware was notedetected until 1st boot, then i approved the 3rd party drivers. however the wifi is not showing any networks and an ifconfig tells me that the interface is called "lxcbr0" which i have never seen before... [14:39] well, i need to install the gnome fallback interface, so maybe i'll try a reinstall and see if that fixes the wifi... [14:55] mgariepy: ^ [14:56] I assume this is a poke ? [14:57] Davew, do you have the url that pastebinit gave you ? [14:57] I have probably got a bit of time before you respond..... [14:58] fluitfries: hey there [14:58] fluitfries: lxcbr0 is set up by lxc (it's harmless) [14:58] ok, so if my wifi interface is not showing after install of 3rd party drivers, any ideas? [14:59] fluitfries: it might be worth while to do an lspci to see which wireless card it contains, some wireless chips have some of their own issues [14:59] ok [14:59] fluitfries: quite often there's a question already asked on askubuntu.com for most common wifi problems, I can strongly recommend it. [14:59] Just in case it is of any importance I have been using a templates folder off my homefolder and had been able to save menus there. [14:59] hey also, can i install gmone fallback via synaptic? [14:59] gnome-fallback [14:59] fluitfries: yep. [14:59] ty! [15:00] fluitfries: you'll just have to select it from the login screen by clickong on the logo in the corner of the login box [15:00] I changed this location yesterday and could not seem to save it in this location. [15:00] kk [15:01] Anyway I have gone through the proces and created a tester2.tar.gzfile. [15:03] I have used this to create a profile and logged in as requested. I have used env > pastebinit and have the listing on the terminal waiting for you. [15:03] env | pastebinit [15:04] not > ;) [15:04] the "pipe" will send the output to pastebinit that will give you an url [15:04] i need to that this url. [15:05] i need this url** [15:05] Sorry the tilde did not work on the terminal keyboard [15:05] it's a pipe "|" [15:05] I thinl | is a tilde [15:06] do you have a us keyboard? [15:06] ~ < this is a tild. [15:06] Yes it is and yes I would have thought it was US [15:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269398/ [15:08] Davew, [15:09] can you copy this line in a terminal and give me the link ? [15:12] Have entered line in browser [15:15] Anything else to do ? [15:18] the line should be pasted in a terminal like gnome-terminal or xterm [15:23] have got xterm and put in line but on return get not found [15:23] do you have pastebinit installed ? [15:23] you can do this by doing : sudo apt-get install pastebinit [15:25] It is installed on the server [15:25] did you copied the 1 before the command ? [15:26] the command starts at the e of "env" [15:31] Davew, i'll be back in about an hour. [15:35] Have located pipe and URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269437/ [15:42] Pipe on my keyboard was a shifted ~ [15:43] I shall stay with this....apologies for delaying you [15:55] is there an official way to remove unity or can i just use apt? i want to switch to the fallback-gnome [16:00] it seems to already be installed... perhaps i misunderstood the check-box during installation. [16:04] Hi fluitfries I have found Unity not intuitive and you ? [16:04] yes, and too slow. [16:06] I am a bit worried that users if using ltsp may have trouble with it. We have all been weaned on microsoft type menus I think [16:50] Davew, i don't usually use unity, i use gnome-fallback on thin clients and it works quite well. [16:50] Hi again, yes I was going to go to gnome. Have I given you what you needed ? [16:51] yeah, it seams sort-of ok i was wondering if the XDG_DATA_DIRS and XDG_CONFIG_DIRS were exported. [16:51] and they are. [16:57] Anything for me to do ? [17:07] Strange thing is that I used menueditor in an earlier version and it seemed to work [17:13] Davew, i guess the problem is caused by unity, can you try whit gnome-fallback ? [17:16] This is done by logging off and logging back in with the gnome choice ? [17:17] Davew, yes [17:17] Ok I will do this now and return [17:21] O.K. Am Using Gnome - will create menu and return [17:30] It looks just the same to me , presumably it should be a gnome desktop as well [17:33] So, for the first time in around 2 years, the edubuntu-webcontact queue is down to 0! [17:34] URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269657 [17:35] Davew, it seams you are still in unity, [17:36] I am in the client I have just used but used logged out and then back in using gnome [17:38] Sorry will clarify, client is showing radar dish - server is logged in as gnome [17:42] Davew, you see the gnome panel bars on top and bottom of the desktop ? [17:43] Davew, http://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots [17:43] does it look like gnome fallback session ? [17:44] http://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots#Gnome_Fallback_Session [17:46] highvoltage, congrats! [17:49] Client has unity bar on left hand side--------Server which I logged in as Gnome has no such bar [17:49] Server looks like Gnome fallback which it should be [17:51] ok and is your menu applied correctly ? [17:51] Davew, what modification did you try to do ? [17:51] On wwhich machine ? [17:51] the menu modification in gnome [17:54] I assigned the menu I created in menu editor, to the group students and logged in as one of those students. I logged in to the server [17:55] after selecting Gnome before doing this [17:57] Could I suggest that you tell me what menu you would like to see and I will attempt to create it for you [17:58] Davew, there is a bug in the game menus, so hiding items from accessory menu should be fine. [17:59] OK will be back [18:08] I have done what was asked- what do you want me to look for that is accessory related on the unity client sctreen [18:12] is the accessory menu modified when using a gnome fallback session ? [18:17] Yes, I have logged in the client on a second machine and Accessory is not shown [18:17] This is in Gnome [18:20] With no session selection it defaults to Unity - which is not good. Can I make it be ONLY Gnome fall back ? [18:21] add this to lts.conf: LDM_SESSION='gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback' [18:25] mgariepy, can I thank you. There are two Gnome options when you log in - should it always be Gnome Classic. [18:29] Davew, should be gnome-classic (no effect) [18:31] Thank you again. I need to eat and shall go home now. I would like to do some documentation on Edubuntu LTSP, whom should I contact ? [18:32] Davew, you should poke highvoltage about this. [18:33] will do and thank you again. [18:33] Davew, you are welcome [18:33] mgariepy: nice try [18:33] Davew_: I think it will be best subscribing to the edubuntu-devel mailing list on http://lists.ubuntu.com [18:33] highvoltage, the offer is there, I would like to help [18:34] Davew_: feel free to send an introduction and explain some of the work you intend to do, and thanks in advance for your work :) [18:34] Will comply, thank you. [18:35] great! [18:35] highvoltage, i knew you knew how to do it ;P [18:35] highvoltage, i haven't been too close to all that recently. ;) [18:36] stgraber: what's up with edubuntu-live? [18:39] highvoltage: translation update [18:47] ah